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Speaker 2: Let's give this if you're listening to Fox Sports Radio.

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Speaker 2: The more we talk about coaching, whether it's college football,

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Speaker 2: whether it's the NFL, whether it's any sport. The more

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Speaker 2: we talk about coaching, the more I keep asking myself

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Speaker 2: the same question, what's your value added? What do you

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Speaker 2: actually bring to it? And oversimplification What I want from

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Speaker 2: my coaches? Are my coaches to be like chefs on

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Speaker 2: the TV show Chopped, open a basket of ingredients. Whatever

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Speaker 2: you got, make me the mother of all dishes. I

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Speaker 2: think the problem is more and more learning that most

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Speaker 2: coaches aren't great chefs. He's Buck Rising. I'm Jason Fitzworth

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Speaker 2: filling in for the guys on Fox Sports Radio. Hear

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Speaker 2: me out like this for me said, thank you, thank

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Speaker 2: you so much. You know I get deeper. Is then

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Speaker 2: I goes one am on the East Coast and I'm

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Speaker 2: just I'm suddenly in my fields, you know.

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Speaker 3: Deeper and delusion for sure.

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Speaker 2: Usually I'm this deep because I'm like three edibles in.

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Speaker 2: But I can't do that right now because I've still

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Speaker 2: got to work right, So I just got to get

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Speaker 2: a step ahead of it as the as the night

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Speaker 2: goes on. But for me, and this is this is

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Speaker 2: becoming clearer and clearer in the NFL too, Like start

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Speaker 2: asking yourself, what what is this guy's calling card or

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Speaker 2: girls calling card? And coach, what is the thing that

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Speaker 2: this person does so well that it got him here?

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Speaker 2: Because Dominique Foxworth pointed out years ago to me and

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Speaker 2: and actually wrote an article on ESPN somewhere it was

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Speaker 2: like twenty sixteen. It's a great read about what they

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Speaker 2: need in the NFL as a coaching combine where you

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Speaker 2: could see all the coordinators have to do the things

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Speaker 2: that head coaches do, and owners could evaluate it the

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Speaker 2: same way that we evaluate players. I've always thought about

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Speaker 2: that because, as you know, covering the Titans, it's such

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Speaker 2: a different job being an offensive coordinator and a head

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Speaker 2: coach the two. I cannot scream this loud enough. The

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Speaker 2: two are not related. They are not at all the same,

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Speaker 2: which is why Josh McDaniels can be a great offensive

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Speaker 2: So when we see USC fail, I immediately think, Okay,

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Speaker 2: what is Lincoln Riley's calling card to this? When we

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Speaker 2: look at some of the teams that right now are

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Speaker 2: failing in the NFL, what does this coach bring to

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Speaker 2: so good at what they do throughout the entire process

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Speaker 2: that no matter what, I can look at it and say,

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Speaker 2: I understand the identity of this head coach. And that's

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Speaker 2: why I understand the identity of this team. And once

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Speaker 2: you lose that, man, I don't know that you got

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Speaker 2: the right guy.

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Speaker 3: Man.

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Speaker 4: What a what a difficult kind of philosophical problem to

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Speaker 4: did you read the Dan Pompeii has been doing great

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Speaker 4: profiles on figures in sports for a long long time

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Speaker 4: now at the Athletic Did you read Dan Pompey's most

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Speaker 4: recent piece on Matt and Aggie. Now that he's getting

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Speaker 4: as we near Black Monday in the NFL. It was

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Speaker 4: it was thought provoking on a couple of different fronts.

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Speaker 4: But it gets into the idea of how a coach

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Speaker 4: as a result, but throughout the course of that success

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Speaker 4: somehow lose the thread, lose themselves, lose the culture, the

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Speaker 4: rather than just inexperience, which also can be a factor, right,

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Speaker 4: I mean, you mentioned the Titans and the situation that

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Speaker 3: So he's probably the worst head coach.

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Speaker 4: From a success standpoint in the history of the franchise. Okay,

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Speaker 4: so it's not completely unfair criticism, but the things that

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Speaker 3: On a weekend, week out basis.

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Speaker 4: And as far as I can remember, I can't think

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Speaker 4: Lafleur almost had that happened to him if he'd have

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Speaker 4: and no, he did a year in Tennessee calling plays

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Speaker 4: and it's an organizational failure to let something like that

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Speaker 2: To man, the right people in the room asking the

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Speaker 2: Like how much that's what it is.

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Speaker 5: That's what kills these organizations at every level.

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Speaker 4: I know you were talking about it within the context

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Speaker 4: Naggy made a connection with Virginia McCaskey Rest in Peace,

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Speaker 4: A bag of these specific kind of like boutique hard

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Speaker 2: Isn't that at its very core? So similar to what

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Speaker 2: what does that actually how does that actually equate to

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Speaker 2: And if that person, I mean, if you're a Jets fan,

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Speaker 2: So I do think that there's a very all of

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Speaker 2: But you look at the the Sean mcface, and you

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Speaker 2: look at the Kyle Shanahan's my god, if your answer

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Speaker 2: to my team sucks this year is we've been beat

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Speaker 2: worst like mean Kyle Shanahan is clearly the coach of

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Speaker 2: the Year this year, like they are just Betsy.

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Speaker 4: I've been screaming that for a month and still and listen.

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Speaker 4: Rabel is a popular figure.

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Speaker 3: I know Mike. I covered Mike.

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Speaker 4: I get it, Okay, He's a very easy guy to

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Speaker 5: But what Kyle Shanahan is doing is outrageous.

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Speaker 3: I'm sorry.

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Speaker 4: I didn't mean to interrupt you roll there, but it's

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Speaker 4: just it's like I have not been able to wrap

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Speaker 4: my Vrabel win Coach of the Year doing something that

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Speaker 4: Kyle Shanahan is currently doing. Except Kyle Shanahan has a

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Speaker 4: harder job to do than Vrabel did in twenty twenty

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Speaker 4: one because Kyle Shanahan's running that offense and they're just

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Speaker 4: bludgeting people. Rot Perty is playing, I don't know, the

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Speaker 4: best football of his career since he's come back from injury.

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Speaker 3: It's ridiculous.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, we need to change the entire way that we

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Speaker 2: talk about Coach of the Year in MVP and everything,

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Speaker 2: because the award is not based on, Hey, who do

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Speaker 2: we think was gonna suck. That doesn't suck this year,

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Speaker 2: Like that's really every year, and this year there's plenty

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Speaker 2: of candidates in that category. You could look at Mike

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Speaker 2: Rabel because of the rise of the Patriots. You can

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Speaker 2: Because you running out of time?

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Speaker 4: Do you know I haven't looked at my email, like,

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Speaker 2: I look I respect it. I needed an email from Southwest,

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Speaker 4: his responsibilities, and he seems to be masking so many

438
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Speaker 4: other things for them on the defensive side of the football,

439
00:21:39,600 --> 00:21:42,240
Speaker 4: just through sheer effort and will on a down and

440
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Speaker 4: down out basis. The fact that he still wants to

441
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Speaker 4: be out there is an insane an insane proposition of

442
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Speaker 4: most normal people. He's clearly not a normal person. It's

443
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Speaker 4: what has wired him to be able to succeed at

444
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Speaker 4: the highest levels of athleticism. So, you know, I think

445
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Speaker 4: that it's probably in the I wouldn't say it's in

446
00:21:59,480 --> 00:22:01,600
Speaker 4: the Raiders interest to move on from him because he's

447
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Speaker 4: still a high level player.

448
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Speaker 3: Is he thirty years old yet?

449
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Speaker 2: No, he's a look up his I want to get it.

450
00:22:08,160 --> 00:22:09,720
Speaker 4: I want to say he's like twenty eight, twenty nine.

451
00:22:09,760 --> 00:22:14,320
Speaker 4: Either way, he's still a player who is twenty eight. Okay,

452
00:22:14,400 --> 00:22:16,359
Speaker 4: so he's at the peak of his power. He is,

453
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Speaker 4: he should be right around the peak of his powers

454
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Speaker 4: at this point in time. Do you want him traded

455
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Speaker 4: or do you want them to try and cut it

456
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Speaker 4: out around him?

457
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Speaker 2: That's an interesting question. I will tell you why. I

458
00:22:31,920 --> 00:22:35,560
Speaker 2: think it's actually win win for everybody, but for Steve

459
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Speaker 2: to Sager, get us cut up on what's going on

460
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Speaker 2: the scoreboard.

461
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Speaker 7: Everything is a final, including the late game in the NBA.

462
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Speaker 7: In LA, the Clippers beat Sacramento one thirty one to

463
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Speaker 7: ninety Kings now eight and twenty five. Clippers led late

464
00:22:47,800 --> 00:22:51,159
Speaker 7: first half seventy to thirty five. Kawhi Leonard finished with

465
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Speaker 7: thirty three points in thirty three minutes. Detroit pulled away

466
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Speaker 7: late to beat the Lakers in LA one twenty eight

467
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Speaker 7: to one oh six. Pistons record twenty five and eight.

468
00:23:00,320 --> 00:23:02,840
Speaker 7: Piston shot sixty eight percent from the floor in the

469
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Speaker 7: first half and sixty three percent for the game. Boston

470
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Speaker 7: is twenty and twelve after its victory at Utah one

471
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Speaker 7: twenty nine one nineteen Keyante, Georgia. The Jazz did had

472
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Speaker 7: thirty seven points. Philadelphia was an overtime winner at Memphis

473
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Speaker 7: one thirty nine one thirty six despite forty points from

474
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Speaker 7: Ja Moran. For Philly, Joel Embiid and Tyrese Maxi had

475
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Speaker 7: thirty four points apiece. Maxi would twelve assists, no turnovers.

476
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Speaker 7: Denver Nuggets star Nikola Jokic will miss at least a

477
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Speaker 7: month with a hyper extended knee. He has a bone

478
00:23:33,520 --> 00:23:36,080
Speaker 7: bruise in the left knee as well. When Jokic doesn't play,

479
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Speaker 7: Denver's record is thirteen and twenty three over the last

480
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Speaker 7: five years. Hawk center Kristaps Porzingis will return from illness

481
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Speaker 7: on Wednesday. He's missed ten games. Atlanta went two to

482
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Speaker 7: eight in that stretch. Bulls guard Josh Giddy could miss

483
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Speaker 7: a few weeks with a strain hamstring suffered last night

484
00:23:51,320 --> 00:23:54,520
Speaker 7: to men's college basketball Number seven Gonzaga held on ninety

485
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Speaker 7: nine ninety three at San Diego. Twelfth rank North Carolina

486
00:23:58,080 --> 00:24:01,480
Speaker 7: won its conference opener over Florida State seventy nine sixty six.

487
00:24:01,680 --> 00:24:05,200
Speaker 7: Among the five NHL games, Pittsburgh at home beat Carolina

488
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Speaker 7: five to one. Montreal at overtime won at Florida three

489
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Speaker 7: to two. The Angels in third baseman Anthony Rendonho reportedly

490
00:24:12,359 --> 00:24:15,040
Speaker 7: restructured his contract. He was due to end a seven

491
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Speaker 7: year deal next year. He missed last season after hip surgery.

492
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Speaker 7: He's not expected to play next year. He betted two

493
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Speaker 7: thirty one over his last four seasons. The Angels have

494
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Speaker 7: not won a playoff game since two thousand and nine,

495
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Speaker 7: and they finished under the five hundred mark in each

496
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Speaker 7: of the last ten years. The Halos are signing reliever

497
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Speaker 7: Kirby Yates reliever Joe Kelly retired. The Dallas Cowboys cut

498
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Speaker 7: veteran defensive back Trayvon Diggs. The Steelers are optimistic the

499
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Speaker 7: pass rusher TJ. Watt can play in the finale Sunday Night.

500
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Speaker 7: Drew Brees and Eli Manning are among fifteen Hall of

501
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Speaker 7: Fame finalists. Northwestern's new offensive coordinator is Chip Kelly. Plenty

502
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Speaker 7: of bowl games coming up Wednesday, and there is the

503
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Speaker 7: Miami game against number two Ohio State New Year's Eve

504
00:24:57,560 --> 00:25:01,000
Speaker 7: in the Cotton Bowl quarter final today. Bowl games first

505
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Speaker 7: in Shreveport, Louisiana Tech won the Independence Bowl twenty three

506
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Speaker 7: to fourteen over Coastal Carolina. Louisiana Tech trailed fourteen to

507
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Speaker 7: six early in the fourth quarter. Coastal lost four straight

508
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Speaker 7: to end the year. In this game, a combined seventeen punts,

509
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Speaker 7: seven turnovers, and twenty five penalties combined. Then, in Nashville,

510
00:25:19,840 --> 00:25:22,760
Speaker 7: Illinois edged Tennessee thirty to twenty eight on a short

511
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Speaker 7: field goal on the final play. Tennessee had taken the

512
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Speaker 7: lead with about five minutes left on a kickoff return

513
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Speaker 7: for a td The balls missed a thirty nine yard

514
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Speaker 7: field goal attempt late first half. Tonight in San Antonio,

515
00:25:34,280 --> 00:25:38,040
Speaker 7: the Alamo Bowl went to TCU at a comeback in overtime,

516
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Speaker 7: beating sixteenth ranked USC thirty to twenty seven. TCU had

517
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Speaker 7: trailed by ten with five minutes to go in regulation.

518
00:25:45,080 --> 00:25:48,120
Speaker 7: TCU got the game winning touchdown pass on a third

519
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Speaker 7: down and twenty play sc through two interceptions, one of

520
00:25:52,560 --> 00:25:53,760
Speaker 7: them in the end zone.

521
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Speaker 2: Back to you, He's book rising on Jason Fitz were

522
00:25:57,400 --> 00:26:00,879
Speaker 2: hanging out with you on Fox Sports Radio. Buck. You

523
00:26:01,040 --> 00:26:05,440
Speaker 2: just asks what needs to happen for Max in my opinion,

524
00:26:05,560 --> 00:26:09,440
Speaker 2: and I'll say this full transparency. Max and I are

525
00:26:09,440 --> 00:26:12,280
Speaker 2: are buddies. And the funny thing is I text him

526
00:26:12,320 --> 00:26:14,359
Speaker 2: on Friday just to say Marry Christmas and hope you

527
00:26:14,400 --> 00:26:16,280
Speaker 2: know he and his family had a great day. I

528
00:26:16,320 --> 00:26:18,360
Speaker 2: had no idea at the time because I wasn't paying

529
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Speaker 2: attention to the news that Max was in the news.

530
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Speaker 2: So we talked and we didn't talk about any of this.

531
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Speaker 2: I want to be clear that, like I haven't talked

532
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Speaker 2: to Max about any of this. I look at this

533
00:26:29,480 --> 00:26:32,800
Speaker 2: and this is just the rare instance where all of

534
00:26:32,840 --> 00:26:36,359
Speaker 2: it is win win, Because realistically, if I get to

535
00:26:36,400 --> 00:26:39,000
Speaker 2: watch somebody that I think is the best player I've

536
00:26:39,040 --> 00:26:41,679
Speaker 2: ever seen play as a Raider, if I get to

537
00:26:41,720 --> 00:26:43,720
Speaker 2: watch him play his whole career with the Raiders, and

538
00:26:43,760 --> 00:26:46,520
Speaker 2: he's always talked about how much he admired Kobe and

539
00:26:46,560 --> 00:26:49,000
Speaker 2: the fact that Kobe played for one organization. He talks

540
00:26:49,040 --> 00:26:51,679
Speaker 2: about loyalty, which matters to him as a human being.

541
00:26:51,800 --> 00:26:54,080
Speaker 2: Like if he gets to fulfill all of that, I

542
00:26:54,080 --> 00:26:56,960
Speaker 2: get to watch him play his whole career for the Raiders,

543
00:26:57,359 --> 00:26:59,359
Speaker 2: I'm better off for it. Like as a fan, I

544
00:26:59,359 --> 00:27:01,639
Speaker 2: get to watch him better product, and he gets to

545
00:27:01,680 --> 00:27:03,840
Speaker 2: have something that matters to him, which is a connection

546
00:27:03,960 --> 00:27:06,680
Speaker 2: to one organization that he believes in. So that's a win.

547
00:27:07,560 --> 00:27:09,800
Speaker 2: If he chooses to play somewhere else, if he doesn't

548
00:27:09,840 --> 00:27:12,480
Speaker 2: want to be part of this chaos anymore, the Raiders

549
00:27:12,520 --> 00:27:15,600
Speaker 2: get multiple picks in return, Max Goo somewhere where he

550
00:27:15,640 --> 00:27:18,200
Speaker 2: can actually, I don't know, win some football games, which

551
00:27:18,240 --> 00:27:21,040
Speaker 2: is absolutely electric. I think the biggest thing that has

552
00:27:21,160 --> 00:27:23,040
Speaker 2: changed in my mind about all of this and why

553
00:27:23,080 --> 00:27:25,439
Speaker 2: it's win win, is that I'm watching a team right

554
00:27:25,480 --> 00:27:27,119
Speaker 2: now that is the worst I've ever seen in my

555
00:27:27,160 --> 00:27:30,159
Speaker 2: lifetime from the Raiders, the worst I've ever washed. And

556
00:27:30,200 --> 00:27:33,159
Speaker 2: I think the most important thing that Raiders fans and

557
00:27:33,240 --> 00:27:35,919
Speaker 2: really everybody needs to accept in all of this is

558
00:27:35,960 --> 00:27:38,320
Speaker 2: that when you are this bad, when you are first

559
00:27:38,359 --> 00:27:41,760
Speaker 2: pick overall bad, you do not fix it in one season.

560
00:27:42,160 --> 00:27:45,400
Speaker 2: So my honest answer to this is that I think

561
00:27:45,480 --> 00:27:48,919
Speaker 2: the Raiders this offseason are going to fire everybody in

562
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Speaker 2: the building, so whatever relationship is damaged by the fact

563
00:27:52,200 --> 00:27:54,760
Speaker 2: that he was put on injury reserve will no longer matter.

564
00:27:55,160 --> 00:27:56,720
Speaker 2: But I also think that they're going to look in

565
00:27:56,720 --> 00:27:59,000
Speaker 2: the mirror and figure out for the first time that

566
00:27:59,119 --> 00:28:01,520
Speaker 2: this is a full reb and you know full rebuild

567
00:28:01,520 --> 00:28:04,399
Speaker 2: you're watching in Tennessee. I think a full rebuild is

568
00:28:04,440 --> 00:28:07,600
Speaker 2: a three or four year process. So, for being honest,

569
00:28:07,800 --> 00:28:10,159
Speaker 2: if everything breaks right for the Raiders, who have a

570
00:28:10,160 --> 00:28:12,119
Speaker 2: ton of money to spend, this year. In the offseason,

571
00:28:12,200 --> 00:28:14,280
Speaker 2: they're gonna draft a quarterback, I think with the first

572
00:28:14,440 --> 00:28:16,560
Speaker 2: or second overall pick, no matter how that comes down.

573
00:28:16,720 --> 00:28:18,440
Speaker 2: They're gonna have a new quarterback. They're gonna have a

574
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Speaker 2: new coach. They're gonna start this development process. Okay, even

575
00:28:22,080 --> 00:28:24,159
Speaker 2: if you go above the ahead of all of this,

576
00:28:24,840 --> 00:28:27,760
Speaker 2: Max is gonna be thirty one or thirty two before

577
00:28:27,760 --> 00:28:29,480
Speaker 2: the Raiders even get to the point where they can

578
00:28:29,480 --> 00:28:31,879
Speaker 2: take advantage of Max. So if he wants to go

579
00:28:31,920 --> 00:28:33,920
Speaker 2: play somewhere else, by God, he's earned the right to

580
00:28:33,960 --> 00:28:36,760
Speaker 2: go do that win some football games, the Raiders won't

581
00:28:36,760 --> 00:28:38,880
Speaker 2: be able to take advantage of the meat of his

582
00:28:39,000 --> 00:28:42,320
Speaker 2: greatness in my opinion, because, frankly, as I've said to

583
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Speaker 2: you before, a couple of years ago, Max was one

584
00:28:44,080 --> 00:28:46,400
Speaker 2: of the league leaders in sacks, Josh Jacobs led the

585
00:28:46,600 --> 00:28:49,720
Speaker 2: league in rushing, DeVante had a thousand yards receiving, and

586
00:28:49,760 --> 00:28:53,400
Speaker 2: the Raiders won six games. Max Crosby is otherworldly and

587
00:28:53,440 --> 00:28:56,400
Speaker 2: the Raiders are gonna win two games. The Raiders at

588
00:28:56,400 --> 00:28:58,680
Speaker 2: some point have to figure out how to win enough

589
00:28:58,880 --> 00:29:01,320
Speaker 2: to reward Max for ever everything he does, and the

590
00:29:01,360 --> 00:29:04,240
Speaker 2: only way that they do that is a massive long

591
00:29:04,320 --> 00:29:07,640
Speaker 2: term rebuild. I think everybody needs to understand that if

592
00:29:07,640 --> 00:29:09,760
Speaker 2: this rebuild is done the right way, if it's done

593
00:29:09,800 --> 00:29:12,520
Speaker 2: at a home run level, I think the best possible

594
00:29:12,560 --> 00:29:15,640
Speaker 2: scenario next year is the Raiders win six games, and

595
00:29:15,680 --> 00:29:18,120
Speaker 2: the year after that they win eight or nine games,

596
00:29:18,280 --> 00:29:20,640
Speaker 2: and then they're on the precipice of something. And if

597
00:29:20,640 --> 00:29:22,880
Speaker 2: you're gonna waste that much of Max, by god, if

598
00:29:22,920 --> 00:29:24,800
Speaker 2: he wants to play somewhere else, let him. And if

599
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Speaker 2: he doesn't, and if at the twilight of his career

600
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Speaker 2: he's finally playing on a winner, Holy hell, that worked

601
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Speaker 2: out for everybody. That's why, Weirdly, I don't think that

602
00:29:33,040 --> 00:29:35,720
Speaker 2: there's any wrong answer for Max. Let Max do what

603
00:29:35,840 --> 00:29:38,160
Speaker 2: he wants to do, play where he wants to play,

604
00:29:38,280 --> 00:29:40,760
Speaker 2: honor that that way, it's still a win win for

605
00:29:40,800 --> 00:29:41,280
Speaker 2: the Raiders.

606
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Speaker 4: You say that I know what a rebuild looks like

607
00:29:45,760 --> 00:29:47,880
Speaker 4: because of the team that I cover on a daily basis,

608
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Speaker 4: But I FITZI they tried their damness not to do

609
00:29:51,280 --> 00:29:56,120
Speaker 4: it when on several occasions, and listen, this is a

610
00:29:56,120 --> 00:29:57,640
Speaker 4: fair criticism of Mike Ribal.

611
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Speaker 3: At the time, Mike Ribel didn't want to.

612
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Speaker 4: Have anything that looked remotely like a rebuild or retooling

613
00:30:05,040 --> 00:30:08,160
Speaker 4: or whatever other than to be as competitive as humanly

614
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Speaker 4: possible while he was still the head coach of the Titans,

615
00:30:10,560 --> 00:30:12,840
Speaker 4: and so that resulted in what his final season, they

616
00:30:12,840 --> 00:30:17,400
Speaker 4: were six and eleven and winning games. That didn't help

617
00:30:17,480 --> 00:30:20,640
Speaker 4: their draft position, but whatever. Like, the goal is always

618
00:30:20,680 --> 00:30:23,240
Speaker 4: to win games, and so you're not going to put

619
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Speaker 4: out a product that would be anything less than what

620
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Speaker 4: your standard is on that front, which I respect on

621
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Speaker 4: the part of coaches and players. Of course, when they

622
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Speaker 4: step out on that field, that's the only thing that matters,

623
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Speaker 4: and that should be the only thing that matters top

624
00:30:35,320 --> 00:30:37,760
Speaker 4: to bottom organizationally. But it did kind of keep them

625
00:30:37,800 --> 00:30:40,720
Speaker 4: in this situation where they were still trying to Ryan

626
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Speaker 4: Tannehill their way through things at the end when that

627
00:30:43,960 --> 00:30:47,440
Speaker 4: was clearly a lost cause and the team around Tannehill

628
00:30:47,480 --> 00:30:49,600
Speaker 4: had depreciated to the point where he was no longer

629
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Speaker 4: functioning at a high level. And since then he's not

630
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Speaker 4: officially retired, but he sure as hell hasn't been, you know,

631
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Speaker 4: Philip riversing out there back into the mix at any

632
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Speaker 4: point in time. He hasn't been one of these veterans

633
00:31:00,080 --> 00:31:04,040
Speaker 4: quarterbacks that come that's come back into the spotlight for

634
00:31:04,080 --> 00:31:07,800
Speaker 4: whatever reason due to injury, and then again in the

635
00:31:07,840 --> 00:31:10,680
Speaker 4: absence of Mike Vrabel, they spent all manner of money

636
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Speaker 4: on Calvin Ridley and Lagerious Need and Kenneth Murray and

637
00:31:14,760 --> 00:31:20,160
Speaker 4: cheetoh Ouzia and Lloyd Cushion Berry huge contracts. Not one

638
00:31:20,200 --> 00:31:23,680
Speaker 4: of them has panned out in any meaningful way. They

639
00:31:23,840 --> 00:31:27,240
Speaker 4: lit what was it, one hundred and twenty eight million

640
00:31:27,320 --> 00:31:32,400
Speaker 4: dollars worth of caps are contract dollars on fire in

641
00:31:32,520 --> 00:31:35,920
Speaker 4: that acquisition. In the to build around Will Levis to

642
00:31:36,000 --> 00:31:38,160
Speaker 4: kind of, you know, try and do a version of

643
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Speaker 4: what I think the Saints are going to try and

644
00:31:39,840 --> 00:31:42,000
Speaker 4: do in twenty twenty six, which is built around a

645
00:31:42,040 --> 00:31:44,720
Speaker 4: flyer of a second round pike at quarterback that might

646
00:31:44,760 --> 00:31:47,400
Speaker 4: actually have something to work with, except you feel better

647
00:31:47,440 --> 00:31:50,320
Speaker 4: about Tyler Shuck, and you did Will Levis at the time.

648
00:31:50,400 --> 00:31:52,680
Speaker 4: It took them until this year to actually do the

649
00:31:52,720 --> 00:31:55,440
Speaker 4: real rebuilding thing. And that's only because ownership had her

650
00:31:55,480 --> 00:31:58,880
Speaker 4: hand forced. So it's one thing to say it, and

651
00:31:58,920 --> 00:32:02,160
Speaker 4: you're right, there is a win win proposition to be

652
00:32:02,200 --> 00:32:05,080
Speaker 4: had in that particular situation, But you also have to

653
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Speaker 4: get the most important people involved with the organization, the

654
00:32:07,640 --> 00:32:10,760
Speaker 4: people that own the organization to actually commit and stick

655
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Speaker 4: with the plan. And that is so much easier said

656
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Speaker 4: than done.

657
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Speaker 2: The biggest mistake in sports is not paying elite money

658
00:32:18,280 --> 00:32:20,640
Speaker 2: to average talent. You hear that all the time. The

659
00:32:20,680 --> 00:32:24,200
Speaker 2: biggest mistake in sports is not looking in the mirror

660
00:32:24,200 --> 00:32:27,680
Speaker 2: and admitting where you are. And I cannot scream this

661
00:32:27,720 --> 00:32:30,440
Speaker 2: loud enough, Like it's okay. Sometimes in life you wake

662
00:32:30,520 --> 00:32:31,680
Speaker 2: up one day and you look in the mirror and

663
00:32:31,680 --> 00:32:34,680
Speaker 2: you're like, man, I got fat. I got really fat.

664
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Speaker 2: Now I don't know how I got so fat, right,

665
00:32:37,160 --> 00:32:39,440
Speaker 2: And then immediately you're like, well, I'll fix it, okay,

666
00:32:40,000 --> 00:32:42,280
Speaker 2: that to do it the right way. Like we live

667
00:32:42,320 --> 00:32:45,600
Speaker 2: in an Ozempic society, and you can have a year

668
00:32:45,920 --> 00:32:49,440
Speaker 2: on the Ozmpic Society, like you can be the Washington Commanders,

669
00:32:49,440 --> 00:32:51,440
Speaker 2: and like Jaden Daniels plays out of his mind and

670
00:32:51,480 --> 00:32:53,800
Speaker 2: your way ahead of the curve and suddenly everything feels great.

671
00:32:54,040 --> 00:32:56,000
Speaker 2: Let's see where we are on the Patriots who have

672
00:32:56,040 --> 00:32:58,400
Speaker 2: had a weird schedule this year. Let's see if this

673
00:32:58,480 --> 00:33:01,280
Speaker 2: is sustainable before we can convince ourselves that everything is

674
00:33:01,320 --> 00:33:03,560
Speaker 2: fixed in New England. I don't know, I just know

675
00:33:03,680 --> 00:33:06,440
Speaker 2: that the way the only real way to truly fix

676
00:33:06,520 --> 00:33:09,680
Speaker 2: things is to actually do the right things day in

677
00:33:09,720 --> 00:33:12,280
Speaker 2: and day out and watch the slow process of changing

678
00:33:12,280 --> 00:33:15,120
Speaker 2: your body to your point. I talked to Raheem Moster,

679
00:33:15,240 --> 00:33:17,400
Speaker 2: who most people don't even realize is on the Raiders

680
00:33:17,520 --> 00:33:20,680
Speaker 2: roster in week two of this season, and he told

681
00:33:20,760 --> 00:33:23,360
Speaker 2: me when I was interviewed on for y'ahoo Sports, he said,

682
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Speaker 2: I've never played for a team before that thought they

683
00:33:25,640 --> 00:33:28,040
Speaker 2: could rebuild and win at the same time. But the

684
00:33:28,160 --> 00:33:30,520
Speaker 2: Raiders believe they can do that this year that was

685
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Speaker 2: their fatal mistake. I think bad teams need to look

686
00:33:33,120 --> 00:33:35,680
Speaker 2: in the mirror. I've told you this before. Owners need

687
00:33:35,720 --> 00:33:37,600
Speaker 2: to step up to the podium and tell fans, hey,

688
00:33:37,960 --> 00:33:40,320
Speaker 2: we suck, and we suck because I haven't done a

689
00:33:40,360 --> 00:33:41,880
Speaker 2: very good job and the only way we're going to

690
00:33:41,920 --> 00:33:44,080
Speaker 2: get better is if we take the time to rebuild.

691
00:33:44,280 --> 00:33:46,360
Speaker 2: So I'm asking you to give me three or four years.

692
00:33:46,520 --> 00:33:48,360
Speaker 2: We're going to rip this thing down to the studs

693
00:33:48,480 --> 00:33:50,280
Speaker 2: and we're going to rebuild it. So success is going

694
00:33:50,320 --> 00:33:51,960
Speaker 2: to look different. We're not going to compete for a

695
00:33:52,040 --> 00:33:54,160
Speaker 2: championship this year, but we are going to get this

696
00:33:54,280 --> 00:33:57,720
Speaker 2: roster better every single day, and if it breaks faster, awesome.

697
00:33:58,000 --> 00:33:59,800
Speaker 2: I think that's what teams have to do. If you're

698
00:34:00,000 --> 00:34:02,960
Speaker 2: making first, second, third, fourth in the draft, you suck.

699
00:34:03,200 --> 00:34:05,480
Speaker 2: Nobody's gonna do it. But I think the only way

700
00:34:05,520 --> 00:34:08,560
Speaker 2: that you can actually work around you pick a quarterback first.

701
00:34:08,560 --> 00:34:11,400
Speaker 2: Overall fine, then you got to start the process of

702
00:34:11,440 --> 00:34:14,959
Speaker 2: building an entire roster around them. Admitting that you suck

703
00:34:15,120 --> 00:34:18,160
Speaker 2: and that you need a full rebuild is the one

704
00:34:18,200 --> 00:34:20,719
Speaker 2: thing that teams aren't willing to do, and not doing

705
00:34:20,719 --> 00:34:23,480
Speaker 2: it is the biggest mistake in sports. The biggest mistake

706
00:34:23,520 --> 00:34:25,399
Speaker 2: you can make is not sticking around because the great

707
00:34:25,520 --> 00:34:28,680
Speaker 2: the greatest game show ever comes next. Would you rather

708
00:34:28,760 --> 00:34:31,040
Speaker 2: Buck and Fits hanging out with the on Fox Sports Radio?

709
00:34:31,320 --> 00:34:35,360
Speaker 2: So Jason Smith Show with Mike Harmon, but it's a

710
00:34:35,400 --> 00:34:38,160
Speaker 2: Buck and Fitz takeover. He's Buck Rising on Jason Fitz.

711
00:34:38,560 --> 00:34:41,520
Speaker 2: Hopefully you've been hanging out with us all night. We'll

712
00:34:41,520 --> 00:34:44,320
Speaker 2: be back Thursday afternoon from three to seven Eastern. You

713
00:34:44,360 --> 00:34:46,200
Speaker 2: can hang out with this Friday morning on two pros

714
00:34:46,200 --> 00:34:47,800
Speaker 2: and a cup of Joe. We'll be hanging out with you.

715
00:34:48,200 --> 00:34:50,799
Speaker 2: And then Saturday and our usual slot six to eight

716
00:34:50,800 --> 00:34:55,120
Speaker 2: pm Saturdays. My god, it's three straight days me you

717
00:34:55,920 --> 00:34:58,719
Speaker 2: oh god, can you feel the magic? I don't know

718
00:34:58,760 --> 00:35:01,759
Speaker 2: what you're gonna what you wanta sitting there? Yeah, you're

719
00:35:01,760 --> 00:35:02,319
Speaker 2: gonna sit down?

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Speaker 3: And just did I bring my bathrobe?

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Speaker 2: Well, you know what, maybe I'll get a bathrobe before then.

722
00:35:07,800 --> 00:35:09,719
Speaker 2: I mean that requires a lot of work to see

723
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Speaker 2: if Amazon can deliver one doesn't just get a bathroom? Well,

724
00:35:13,760 --> 00:35:16,120
Speaker 2: who sells bathrobes? I don't even know who sells bathroom?

725
00:35:16,120 --> 00:35:18,320
Speaker 3: Literally, there's a store called bed Bathroom Beyond.

726
00:35:18,640 --> 00:35:21,520
Speaker 2: Okay, bet bath and Beyond isn't even in business anymore. Okay,

727
00:35:21,360 --> 00:35:22,360
Speaker 2: can keep up with your stories?

728
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Speaker 3: Really?

729
00:35:23,160 --> 00:35:26,280
Speaker 2: Yeah? Like, well they were bought by overstock now, but

730
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Speaker 2: I don't think they have stories anymore. I think all

731
00:35:27,880 --> 00:35:28,640
Speaker 2: the stores closed.

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00:35:28,800 --> 00:35:32,960
Speaker 3: Whoa, Literally, that's a revelation. That's just he shattered my

733
00:35:33,040 --> 00:35:34,239
Speaker 3: world here in the middle of the night.

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Speaker 2: I just maybe there's a bathroobes dot com that can

735
00:35:38,440 --> 00:35:41,239
Speaker 2: deliver it to me before before Thursday. I'll see what

736
00:35:41,280 --> 00:35:43,040
Speaker 2: I can do. All right, it is time for the

737
00:35:43,040 --> 00:35:46,480
Speaker 2: single greatest game show in the history of Sportstock Radio.

738
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Speaker 2: It is time for would you rather?

739
00:35:52,440 --> 00:35:54,239
Speaker 3: I We got it?

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00:35:54,239 --> 00:35:59,359
Speaker 2: It's easy, guys, too hard? Would you rather, Buckety, it's

741
00:35:59,440 --> 00:36:03,040
Speaker 2: no good or face it where Bo comes in, reads

742
00:36:03,120 --> 00:36:04,680
Speaker 2: us a question and we figure out what we would

743
00:36:04,760 --> 00:36:07,080
Speaker 2: rather do. Very complicated concept. But what do you got for?

744
00:36:07,760 --> 00:36:10,640
Speaker 8: Would you guys rather only be able to communicate through

745
00:36:10,680 --> 00:36:14,680
Speaker 8: motivational gym quotes or only through passive aggressive emails?

746
00:36:15,120 --> 00:36:17,920
Speaker 3: Oh? Passive aggressive emails? That's how I communicate now, Now

747
00:36:17,960 --> 00:36:20,359
Speaker 3: that would require to look for me to look at.

748
00:36:20,239 --> 00:36:24,239
Speaker 4: My email as opposed to sending passive aggressive text. But yeah,

749
00:36:24,280 --> 00:36:28,160
Speaker 4: anything that involves me being passive aggressive, I'll take that pass.

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00:36:28,280 --> 00:36:30,520
Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm an unpassive aggressive. That is by far the

751
00:36:30,600 --> 00:36:33,160
Speaker 2: right answer on that one, mostly because I know, to

752
00:36:33,239 --> 00:36:35,279
Speaker 2: Buck's point, I'm not going to check it, or when

753
00:36:35,280 --> 00:36:36,960
Speaker 2: I do check it, it's three in the morning, and

754
00:36:37,000 --> 00:36:39,160
Speaker 2: I've had, like, you know, enough edibles that I'll laugh

755
00:36:39,160 --> 00:36:41,080
Speaker 2: at your passive aggressiveness and then I'll come back with

756
00:36:41,120 --> 00:36:42,960
Speaker 2: more passive aggressiveness, which.

757
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Speaker 4: By the way, ignoring the emails further is just an

758
00:36:45,360 --> 00:36:48,080
Speaker 4: additional layer of passive aggressiveness.

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Speaker 2: I absolutely love everything about this, Bo. What do you

760
00:36:52,320 --> 00:36:53,200
Speaker 2: got for our next one?

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Speaker 8: This one actually made me physically cringe when I read it.

762
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Speaker 8: Would you rather have to explain TikTok trends to your

763
00:36:59,320 --> 00:37:03,320
Speaker 8: grandparents for or have them explain Facebook memes to you forever.

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00:37:03,640 --> 00:37:04,239
Speaker 3: No.

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Speaker 2: Oh, I kind of love the idea of having Facebook

766
00:37:07,280 --> 00:37:10,279
Speaker 2: memes explained to me by my grandparents, so that I

767
00:37:10,320 --> 00:37:13,080
Speaker 2: can get their perspective on exactly what they find humorous

768
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Speaker 2: about it. Yeah. Plus, I get really frustrated, Like I'm

769
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Speaker 2: patient as a listener, I am frustrated as an explainer

770
00:37:20,239 --> 00:37:22,960
Speaker 2: when my point doesn't get received quick enough. I'm like,

771
00:37:23,400 --> 00:37:26,200
Speaker 2: what I speak for a little way, like, what are

772
00:37:26,200 --> 00:37:29,280
Speaker 2: you not figuring out here? I have made this very clear,

773
00:37:29,560 --> 00:37:32,359
Speaker 2: and I don't want me mom papa to have that.

774
00:37:32,840 --> 00:37:34,960
Speaker 2: Not that either of my grandparents alive, but that would

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00:37:35,000 --> 00:37:37,080
Speaker 2: be my answer buck where are you? Oh?

776
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Speaker 4: I still have one grandparent alive, and I would hate

777
00:37:40,040 --> 00:37:42,640
Speaker 4: to be to even think about the idea of becoming

778
00:37:42,680 --> 00:37:45,040
Speaker 4: annoyed with her when she tries to explain to me

779
00:37:45,120 --> 00:37:47,759
Speaker 4: her Facebook trends. So I would rather take the time

780
00:37:47,800 --> 00:37:50,440
Speaker 4: to explain to her TikTok trends rather than be bothered

781
00:37:50,480 --> 00:37:52,360
Speaker 4: by what the old people are doing on Facebook.

782
00:37:52,640 --> 00:37:53,840
Speaker 2: I just love the idea.

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00:37:54,200 --> 00:37:55,600
Speaker 3: The hell is still using Facebook?

784
00:37:56,800 --> 00:37:59,800
Speaker 2: My mom? The leading Facebook was one of the joyful

785
00:37:59,800 --> 00:38:01,640
Speaker 2: things that I did in my life several years ago.

786
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Speaker 2: It is just absolutely it is electric to not know

787
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Speaker 2: how anyone what are.

788
00:38:05,440 --> 00:38:08,960
Speaker 4: People doing on Facebook other than buying things in Facebook marketplace?

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Speaker 3: I'm confused.

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Speaker 8: I can tell you my mom is reading things that

791
00:38:12,360 --> 00:38:14,799
Speaker 8: make her upset and then telling me what she saw

792
00:38:14,840 --> 00:38:16,960
Speaker 8: on Facebook that made her upset. And then when I

793
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Speaker 8: tell her, like, just delete the app, she says, But

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Speaker 8: I don't want to people on Facebook.

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Speaker 2: I've got yeah, I don't want to know my friends

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00:38:26,719 --> 00:38:28,839
Speaker 2: that well, like I don't. I don't really care about

797
00:38:28,840 --> 00:38:31,760
Speaker 2: what any of you think about politics. I just don't,

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Speaker 2: So you know, I like we got rid of I

799
00:38:33,760 --> 00:38:36,960
Speaker 2: got rid of knowing anything religion politics related based on

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Speaker 2: any of my friends. I like my friends, morna, I

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Speaker 2: don't go would you guys? Uh?

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Speaker 5: Would you?

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Speaker 2: Would you guys?

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Speaker 8: Rather, every song you hear be replaced with the NFL

805
00:38:44,680 --> 00:38:48,239
Speaker 8: on Fox theme or every conversation you have end with

806
00:38:48,360 --> 00:38:50,640
Speaker 8: And that's why Tom Brady's the goat.

807
00:38:51,360 --> 00:38:56,520
Speaker 5: Hmmm, well contextualize say the first one again?

808
00:38:56,680 --> 00:38:57,719
Speaker 3: Bo, if you would uh?

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00:38:58,520 --> 00:39:01,360
Speaker 8: Every song you hear is re placed by the wonderful

810
00:39:01,480 --> 00:39:02,759
Speaker 8: NFL on Fox theme.

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Speaker 4: It's not nothing against the NFL on Fox day. But

812
00:39:06,160 --> 00:39:08,920
Speaker 4: I do like music, so I need a little variety

813
00:39:08,960 --> 00:39:11,480
Speaker 4: in my life. I'd probably end every conversation with That's

814
00:39:11,480 --> 00:39:12,560
Speaker 4: why Tom Brady's to goat.

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00:39:13,520 --> 00:39:16,120
Speaker 2: But every time somebody says that, it would just make

816
00:39:16,160 --> 00:39:18,080
Speaker 2: my blood boil and I would be reminded of the

817
00:39:18,080 --> 00:39:20,920
Speaker 2: Tuck rule. So I will take the NFL on Fox

818
00:39:22,000 --> 00:39:24,480
Speaker 2: all day every day. That's an easy one, very easy.

819
00:39:24,520 --> 00:39:26,680
Speaker 2: Like I'll get used to one song and I'll sing

820
00:39:26,680 --> 00:39:29,640
Speaker 2: it stylistically. I'll just walk around the house and humme

821
00:39:29,640 --> 00:39:31,040
Speaker 2: it like it's mine. What do you got?

822
00:39:32,239 --> 00:39:34,400
Speaker 8: Would you, guys, rather be famous for something that you

823
00:39:34,440 --> 00:39:37,759
Speaker 8: didn't do or be rich for something deeply embarrassing?

824
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Speaker 3: No?

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Speaker 2: Rich? Look, I mean I don't there's no such thing

826
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Speaker 2: as embarrassing. Whatever you are offering, like whatever you are

827
00:39:45,280 --> 00:39:47,239
Speaker 2: asking me to do on a YouTube live and I

828
00:39:47,320 --> 00:39:50,120
Speaker 2: mean whatever, if it has the right payday on it,

829
00:39:50,120 --> 00:39:52,799
Speaker 2: it's cool. Me Ma can watch that on Facebook. I

830
00:39:52,840 --> 00:39:55,080
Speaker 2: don't care as long as there's enough cash on it.

831
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Speaker 2: So like correct, Yeah, but we are both.

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00:39:57,920 --> 00:40:04,560
Speaker 3: Were also for sale. I like money.

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00:40:05,760 --> 00:40:08,440
Speaker 2: We just learned so much about ourselves that we already

834
00:40:08,440 --> 00:40:12,319
Speaker 2: should have known. Absolutely wild. Hey, we appreciate you guys

835
00:40:12,400 --> 00:40:15,239
Speaker 2: spending the last four hours hanging out with us. It

836
00:40:15,320 --> 00:40:18,000
Speaker 2: is always a blast to get to do this. Certainly,

837
00:40:18,239 --> 00:40:20,480
Speaker 2: stick around more Fox Sports Radio all night. We'll see

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Speaker 2: in a couple of days