WEBVTT - Juicy Mangos Fat and Well Fed (feat. Jacq Frances) 0:00:03.000 --> 0:00:06.200 I have to tell you like I mean I, I 0:00:06.600 --> 0:00:09.520 loved it. I loved I lost train of thought. What 0:00:09.600 --> 0:00:11.200 were we talking? We were talking about stranger things. Oh 0:00:11.240 --> 0:00:18.919 my god, take that out. You know what, Rose, You 0:00:19.320 --> 0:00:22.160 don't own me. I have never claimed to own you. 0:00:22.480 --> 0:00:25.560 If there's one thing that the film First Wives Club 0:00:25.640 --> 0:00:28.040 has taught me, it's that I am not owned by anyone. 0:00:28.080 --> 0:00:32.600 In fact, I spend my days wearing white skirt suits 0:00:32.880 --> 0:00:36.400 and um dancing with my girlfriends while getting revenge on 0:00:36.479 --> 0:00:38.760 my ex husband. If there's one thing the film The 0:00:38.760 --> 0:00:41.080 First Wives Club taught me, it's like you could never 0:00:41.120 --> 0:00:45.720 have enough Jupiterman your lips. Absolutely, there is no maximum. 0:00:45.720 --> 0:00:48.480 The limit does not exist. And today on the pod 0:00:48.600 --> 0:00:52.640 we have Jack Francis, the artists formerly known as Jack 0:00:52.760 --> 0:00:56.120 This Tripper. If you've ever followed her on Instagram, We're 0:00:56.200 --> 0:00:58.720 so excited to talk to her about all things First 0:00:58.720 --> 0:01:02.360 Wives Club, plus some tan in Son, Coyote, Ugly, and 0:01:02.720 --> 0:01:06.680 other other faves of ours. Jack is an amazing artist 0:01:07.160 --> 0:01:09.960 who is going on tour by the way, check out 0:01:09.959 --> 0:01:14.160 her tour Divorced in Paradise on her website. And I 0:01:14.160 --> 0:01:16.959 don't know if there's a better person to discuss a 0:01:17.080 --> 0:01:21.479 truly queer cannon film. I mean not even queer canon. 0:01:21.520 --> 0:01:23.640 It's like kind of bag cannon. I don't know if 0:01:23.680 --> 0:01:26.120 that if that or maybe divorcee canon is what it 0:01:26.120 --> 0:01:28.800 actually is. Um. I also think this film is lesbian 0:01:28.840 --> 0:01:31.280 cannon because of its like iconic bar scene, and today 0:01:31.280 --> 0:01:33.760 we're going to reclaim it for more than just sis gays, 0:01:33.840 --> 0:01:36.039 because this is like a virgin the show where we 0:01:36.080 --> 0:01:39.400 give yesterday's pop culture today's tapes. I'm Rose, damn you 0:01:39.800 --> 0:01:46.920 and I'm Fran Toronto. Hi listen. We had a bit 0:01:46.959 --> 0:01:50.760 of an ordeal setting up our microphone guard. I thought 0:01:50.800 --> 0:01:54.320 that would never happen. Oh my god, Fire Island. You know, 0:01:54.400 --> 0:01:57.240 we're on island time. We are on island time. That's 0:01:57.360 --> 0:02:02.000 excuse everything that happens. No, but like what just happened. 0:02:02.400 --> 0:02:07.240 I could do alone in my apartment extremely easily. But here, 0:02:07.760 --> 0:02:10.000 it's just I was possible issue. It was a ten 0:02:10.040 --> 0:02:13.000 minute or deal. Well, okay, so I we need to 0:02:13.040 --> 0:02:15.720 set the scene for the Virgins in a couple of 0:02:15.720 --> 0:02:19.360 different ways. So we are currently on vacation. Yes, we're 0:02:19.360 --> 0:02:22.560 on Fire Island. And if you've heard of it, a 0:02:22.600 --> 0:02:27.200 gorgeous transgender home yes, truly perfect. We're in a beautiful 0:02:27.760 --> 0:02:32.440 vacation rental and we are recording, are you know the 0:02:32.520 --> 0:02:38.480 opening of this week's podcast episode from Gay Paradise Gay Paradise, 0:02:38.560 --> 0:02:43.920 We also do both happen to be very stone, which 0:02:44.040 --> 0:02:47.680 was we decided that this is what we were Yes, well, 0:02:47.720 --> 0:02:50.040 I had therapy right before this, and we decided to 0:02:50.200 --> 0:02:53.520 use the fifteen minutes between ending therapy and starting this 0:02:53.560 --> 0:02:57.720 podcast recording to get really really hot. Maybe a little 0:02:57.760 --> 0:03:01.040 more than I anticipated, but I was not expecting this. 0:03:01.160 --> 0:03:06.640 I only had like like three puffs three max. Yeah, 0:03:06.800 --> 0:03:09.600 and I I don't know, I feel like but we're 0:03:09.639 --> 0:03:11.120 in a good stay right now, and this has been 0:03:11.160 --> 0:03:14.600 a wonderful vacation right yes, um we have listen, We've 0:03:14.639 --> 0:03:18.240 been having so much fun. Um. The past week has 0:03:18.280 --> 0:03:20.920 been amazing, not just because we've been on vacation, but 0:03:20.960 --> 0:03:25.160 because we did our first ever live show. It was incredible. 0:03:25.360 --> 0:03:29.399 I mean, like, the night was beyond the drag. Performers 0:03:29.480 --> 0:03:33.560 and Honey were so good. They were amazing, but also 0:03:33.840 --> 0:03:36.040 we were the stars of the show. Yeah, well know, 0:03:36.200 --> 0:03:39.160 the real stars of the show were the virgins who 0:03:39.200 --> 0:03:43.320 came out. It was that, I know, I know, it's corny, 0:03:43.480 --> 0:03:45.720 but we know on this podcast that I do get 0:03:45.760 --> 0:03:50.520 a little corny sometimes, and you know, listen, we record 0:03:50.560 --> 0:03:54.120 this podcast, like obviously we're recording together each us on 0:03:54.120 --> 0:03:58.360 Fire Island right now, but we mostly record this audience, 0:03:58.400 --> 0:04:00.600 like the three of us either in a studio on 0:04:00.720 --> 0:04:04.120 zoom and we have so much fun doing it. But 0:04:04.240 --> 0:04:06.360 getting to do it in a room full of people, 0:04:06.960 --> 0:04:10.480 with all those performers who were with us, like with 0:04:10.520 --> 0:04:13.960 everyone who works on this podcast involved was so cool 0:04:14.240 --> 0:04:16.760 and like it came to life in a way that 0:04:16.880 --> 0:04:20.719 I was not prepared for but was really really excited 0:04:20.760 --> 0:04:23.400 and moved by. Yeah, and it was also really nice 0:04:23.440 --> 0:04:26.240 to like decompress with everyone after and to just like 0:04:26.960 --> 0:04:29.720 meet all of you and yeah, I don't know, I 0:04:29.800 --> 0:04:32.800 want to do more. Yes, I love the Virgins. The 0:04:32.880 --> 0:04:36.240 Virgins are so cool. Everyone was really well dressed at 0:04:36.240 --> 0:04:40.120 our show. The vibes were immaculated, were immaculate. So tell 0:04:40.160 --> 0:04:42.919 us where you want us to come or bring you 0:04:42.960 --> 0:04:46.159 want to go on tour, So like get your college 0:04:46.279 --> 0:04:52.640 to bring up money. Um, we're downt We're available. Anyways, 0:04:53.440 --> 0:04:56.960 we do have at least a little culture to catch 0:04:57.040 --> 0:05:00.680 up on, because I mean, excuse me, I must coming 0:05:00.680 --> 0:05:04.440 down with something. I think we have Minions fever rows. 0:05:04.440 --> 0:05:10.080 Oh my god, someone got the doctor. We have Neither 0:05:10.200 --> 0:05:13.800 Frand nor myself have ever seen a Minions movie, not 0:05:13.880 --> 0:05:16.039 a single one. I don't I've never seen anything in 0:05:16.080 --> 0:05:19.719 that even cinematic universe. I guess that they originate from 0:05:20.000 --> 0:05:27.680 just Despicable Me. Okay, um, same, But it feels like 0:05:28.080 --> 0:05:31.040 the name on everybody's lips is going to be Minions. 0:05:31.240 --> 0:05:34.479 Minions for sure, And let me tell you, we need 0:05:34.520 --> 0:05:37.839 to be sent more memes. We've been getting some memes 0:05:37.920 --> 0:05:40.880 from y'all about Minions, but like, I feel like we 0:05:40.960 --> 0:05:42.960 could be you know, I need so many more. And 0:05:43.000 --> 0:05:46.640 I really appreciate everyone who's been tagging us in Minions memes. 0:05:46.640 --> 0:05:50.640 Really appreciate the support. We love Minions memes, but there 0:05:50.680 --> 0:05:53.600 needs to be more. I don't ever want to know 0:05:53.800 --> 0:05:56.200 who the Minions are, what they do, what the context is. Like, 0:05:56.320 --> 0:05:58.080 I don't think I'm going to see the movie. I 0:05:58.120 --> 0:06:00.440 don't think I'm ever going to see any Minions content. 0:06:00.839 --> 0:06:03.800 But it's that's not what it's about. It's about vibes. Yeah, 0:06:03.839 --> 0:06:05.920 it really is, and it's about you know, let me 0:06:05.960 --> 0:06:10.360 tell you this soundtrack was impeccable produced by Our King 0:06:10.480 --> 0:06:14.360 and Jack Antonov, which like, I'm so glad he did it, 0:06:14.440 --> 0:06:17.000 but he really needs a break. He should be in 0:06:17.080 --> 0:06:19.080 Fire Island with us right now because the girls have 0:06:19.160 --> 0:06:24.120 been running him ragged. But listen, girl, like this soundtrack 0:06:24.320 --> 0:06:28.080 is Jack Antonov's best work since what his last Taylor 0:06:28.120 --> 0:06:30.520 album Black, I don't even I feel like he really 0:06:30.640 --> 0:06:34.120 popped off with this. Very well curated and produced. If 0:06:34.120 --> 0:06:36.680 you haven't listened to it, It's lots of covers of 0:06:36.960 --> 0:06:45.640 seventies songs like Carolaid, Polycheck does Bang Bang My Baby, Caliucus, 0:06:46.000 --> 0:06:49.320 Diana Ross does a song with tam Impala which is insane. 0:06:49.600 --> 0:06:53.840 St Vincent covering Funky Town that one, Oh, and um 0:06:53.839 --> 0:06:57.239 Tierra Wag Tierra Whack is actually one of my favorite covers. 0:06:57.839 --> 0:06:59.919 It really is a culture. We've been playing it on blasts. 0:07:00.240 --> 0:07:04.359 We have been bumping the Minion soundtrack by the pool 0:07:04.480 --> 0:07:06.160 at least once a day. I actually don't think we 0:07:06.240 --> 0:07:09.040 listened to it yesterday, which does hurt my heart a 0:07:09.080 --> 0:07:11.679 little bit. Yeah yeah, but we'll listen today. We'll listen today. 0:07:12.040 --> 0:07:15.640 I have seen more Minion pussies this week then I 0:07:15.760 --> 0:07:21.480 ever expected to in my life and I'm embracing that. Yeah. Yeah, look, 0:07:21.520 --> 0:07:24.120 this is this is our culture. Now, this is this 0:07:24.160 --> 0:07:25.600 is what we come to talk about. This is a 0:07:25.680 --> 0:07:30.960 minion We are minions advocates. Yes, we are allies to 0:07:31.000 --> 0:07:35.720 the minion community. It's l g B t q M 0:07:35.720 --> 0:07:47.240 now truly. On this vacation, I have had taken I 0:07:47.280 --> 0:07:50.360 have I've scooped my brain fully out of my skull 0:07:50.600 --> 0:07:54.400 to just be no thoughts, had empty girl there and 0:07:54.440 --> 0:07:57.320 that's been working really well. Oh yeah, oh yeah. We're 0:07:57.400 --> 0:08:02.480 now on day fine of of a weeklong vacation and 0:08:02.960 --> 0:08:07.600 you know it's out. Yes, very much. So different people 0:08:07.640 --> 0:08:11.240 here today. Okay, there was something else you wanted to do. 0:08:11.280 --> 0:08:13.240 We want to talk about Stranger Things a little bit. 0:08:13.440 --> 0:08:19.080 I mean we've only watched the first episode. Yeah, we 0:08:19.120 --> 0:08:23.200 watched episode eight. We still haven't watched episode nine because 0:08:23.240 --> 0:08:28.320 it is the length of the movie Avatar. So long. 0:08:28.520 --> 0:08:31.880 We'll get around to it, but so far, I really 0:08:31.920 --> 0:08:36.080 liked the first part. Spoiler spoilers if you watch Stranger Things. 0:08:36.080 --> 0:08:40.920 Spoiler I'm glad that Papa is dead. I also wish 0:08:40.960 --> 0:08:44.160 we didn't have to call him Papa. It's really awkward. 0:08:44.240 --> 0:08:47.960 It's really not right, but like the drama was kick 0:08:48.000 --> 0:08:51.120 it like it was really like I loved every minute 0:08:51.120 --> 0:08:53.319 of it. Yeah. I also loved when they were at 0:08:53.320 --> 0:08:56.120 the guns store and everyone in town was just they're 0:08:56.120 --> 0:08:59.760 buying the guns. You're like, there was the lesbian moment. 0:09:00.280 --> 0:09:03.080 I hope that gets resolved to have a feeling that 0:09:03.160 --> 0:09:05.400 and with an em is going to come back and 0:09:05.480 --> 0:09:08.600 she does actually want to be with Robin. Also renew 0:09:08.679 --> 0:09:12.280 and with an ease show my God on the records 0:09:12.280 --> 0:09:15.280 saying and with an evening, I could say it now 0:09:15.520 --> 0:09:19.960 on convergive. I really liked it. I'm so excited to 0:09:19.960 --> 0:09:23.840 watch more. Um, I find the Russia plot very boring, 0:09:23.920 --> 0:09:26.120 and every time we're there, I disagree. Let's say, back 0:09:26.160 --> 0:09:29.080 to Hawkins, I don't know, you look great, but I'm 0:09:29.120 --> 0:09:32.000 just not you know the I love Hopper, I love 0:09:32.040 --> 0:09:34.360 his potline. I think the Russia thing is so off 0:09:34.400 --> 0:09:36.600 the rails, and I think that's all. I think it's 0:09:36.640 --> 0:09:39.559 amazing because I think it embraces how crazy it is. 0:09:39.920 --> 0:09:42.800 But I was also going to say I prefer those 0:09:42.840 --> 0:09:46.240 scenes over the gay scene that we got, Like what 0:09:46.280 --> 0:09:49.560 did you think? My god? Okay, so it took like 0:09:49.720 --> 0:09:51.880 I don't think everyone who were watching it with realize 0:09:51.920 --> 0:09:55.200 that that was Will like confessing his feelings about Mike, 0:09:55.280 --> 0:09:58.400 but using the language of talking about how Levin feels 0:09:58.440 --> 0:10:02.080 about him, Like that's oh gay to be talking about 0:10:02.080 --> 0:10:06.160 your feelings, but in a pretend way. Um, I don't 0:10:06.240 --> 0:10:09.959 know if we're going to get more than that. Yeah, 0:10:10.000 --> 0:10:12.440 I really, because where would it lead? You know, I 0:10:12.440 --> 0:10:16.160 think he's going to die. No, who do you think 0:10:16.240 --> 0:10:18.320 is going to die? Because obviously some people are gonna die. 0:10:18.400 --> 0:10:20.560 I think, Okay, I don't think it's going to die, 0:10:20.559 --> 0:10:24.320 but I think something about him being in the upside 0:10:24.320 --> 0:10:28.080 down and like his connection the monster they was gonna 0:10:28.200 --> 0:10:30.480 come back. They would kill the gay one. He's going 0:10:30.520 --> 0:10:33.600 to turn because look, we already have one evil twin Vecna, 0:10:33.760 --> 0:10:36.120 and now we need another. When we need there always 0:10:36.120 --> 0:10:38.520 has to be too. It's like six in Star Wars. 0:10:38.600 --> 0:10:42.360 There are always to master and apprentice, and one will 0:10:42.440 --> 0:10:44.720 kill the other the rule of the two or hem rhins, 0:10:44.840 --> 0:10:47.080 there's always too. Who else do you think is going 0:10:47.160 --> 0:10:49.520 to die? I mean I don't. I didn't really predict, 0:10:49.559 --> 0:10:51.720 to be honest, I think your prediction of Max I 0:10:51.760 --> 0:10:55.120 think is also. Yeah, I think Max is she's going 0:10:55.160 --> 0:10:57.080 to be running up that hill to make a deal 0:10:57.120 --> 0:11:01.280 with God sooner rather than later. Yeah, or at least. 0:11:01.280 --> 0:11:02.800 But the only thing is they're kind of setting it 0:11:02.920 --> 0:11:04.800 up that way, so it might be too obvious. Well 0:11:04.800 --> 0:11:07.280 that's how I feel about Steve dying, because everyone is 0:11:07.480 --> 0:11:10.160 theorizing that Steve is going to die. But like the 0:11:10.200 --> 0:11:13.120 Netflix literally put it on their billboard like Pratty for 0:11:13.240 --> 0:11:15.640 Steve or something, so to me, that means he's not 0:11:15.679 --> 0:11:19.079 gonna die, because they would not, like, I just don't 0:11:19.080 --> 0:11:22.320 think it would be it's too obvious. But you know, 0:11:22.440 --> 0:11:25.440 like the Duffer Brothers really like to play into tropes, 0:11:25.840 --> 0:11:28.600 which which one Steve the main character. Steve's the with 0:11:28.640 --> 0:11:31.840 the hair, the one who we saw at um at 0:11:32.240 --> 0:11:36.319 Um fig Oh my god. One time we were having 0:11:36.320 --> 0:11:41.640 dinner at Figro Bistro, which is where celebrities. It's a 0:11:41.679 --> 0:11:43.800 restaurant you should go to if you either want to 0:11:43.840 --> 0:11:46.720 like sit and people watch, or if you want to 0:11:46.880 --> 0:11:49.120 if you need some like affirmation that you're wearing a 0:11:49.160 --> 0:11:52.240 cute look you want to walk through everyone dyning, that's 0:11:52.280 --> 0:11:54.720 a good place to go. Also, they have incredible steak tartar. 0:11:54.800 --> 0:11:58.120 But we were having dinner there at one time, and um, 0:11:58.280 --> 0:12:01.840 the guy who plays Steve was inside, um with some 0:12:01.960 --> 0:12:04.840 hot girl. I honestly can never remember any of their names. 0:12:04.880 --> 0:12:09.319 For me, it's always like will like Will to Billy, Billy, 0:12:09.040 --> 0:12:12.000 Billy too, Yeah, this is the one with the one 0:12:12.040 --> 0:12:13.920 with the long billy too, and then and then you 0:12:13.960 --> 0:12:16.400 know that but he's not as hot as Billy Yeah. 0:12:16.440 --> 0:12:20.319 And then there's Hopper guy, and then there's one writer 0:12:21.520 --> 0:12:23.920 w is her character name. It should all just be 0:12:24.000 --> 0:12:27.679 every Stranger Things character should be, not oneonah one, not 0:12:27.720 --> 0:12:32.679 when I she's so good every time, I want her 0:12:32.720 --> 0:12:35.959 to be in more things. Though. She made that m 0:12:36.880 --> 0:12:39.920 rom com with Keanu Reeves a couple of years ago 0:12:40.080 --> 0:12:42.800 that was like it was such because it was like 0:12:42.920 --> 0:12:46.400 their back baby, and then literally no one including me 0:12:46.520 --> 0:12:49.760 saw it. Oh that's so sad. Well, I mean I 0:12:49.760 --> 0:12:52.160 would watch more Things if she would be more Things, 0:12:52.200 --> 0:12:54.760 because I think she Stranger Things is amazing for her, 0:12:54.840 --> 0:12:58.680 and I think Stranger Things is amazing because of her. Well, 0:12:58.679 --> 0:13:02.839 that's definitely the reason it was put on everyone's radars. Yes, 0:13:02.880 --> 0:13:04.800 because she lent her name to it and that, But 0:13:04.800 --> 0:13:07.120 but I also feel like she doesn't need to be 0:13:07.400 --> 0:13:09.520 entrapped to the stranger, Like I just need her in 0:13:09.600 --> 0:13:12.679 more movies and and Prestige TV. You know what I mean. 0:13:12.679 --> 0:13:14.920 I hope, I hope she's making a lot of money. 0:13:15.240 --> 0:13:17.480 I'm sure. Yeah, I mean, I'm sure she is. I'm 0:13:17.480 --> 0:13:21.000 sure she is there anything else? What has been your 0:13:21.000 --> 0:13:24.120 favorite part of the trip so far? Rose? Hanging out 0:13:24.160 --> 0:13:27.480 with everyone at the house, Like dinners together have been 0:13:27.520 --> 0:13:29.920 really lovely. I think people when they think of Fire 0:13:29.960 --> 0:13:35.080 Island and immediately obviously you think like parties, vodka, SODA's, 0:13:35.160 --> 0:13:37.680 you know, going to tee, like a lot of sex 0:13:37.760 --> 0:13:41.200 or like whatever. And like this trip has been I mean, 0:13:41.400 --> 0:13:44.400 sorry to say, like so wholesome, Like it's been so 0:13:44.520 --> 0:13:48.280 beautiful and so community driven, and it's been incredible in 0:13:48.280 --> 0:13:50.480 a way that I have never experienced on this island 0:13:50.559 --> 0:13:54.120 because you know, like this island is like really made 0:13:54.360 --> 0:13:58.719 for very specific kind of queer people that don't include us, 0:13:58.720 --> 0:14:01.280 that don't include us. And you know, I've always come 0:14:01.320 --> 0:14:03.360 to this island like as a guest of other people 0:14:03.440 --> 0:14:05.680 or like someone just like figuring it out, and that's 0:14:05.679 --> 0:14:09.520 been amazing. But to come here and have a house 0:14:09.800 --> 0:14:13.160 and like like Fran who really like put all this 0:14:13.280 --> 0:14:16.200 together to have really curated it in such a way that, 0:14:16.559 --> 0:14:19.080 you know, like making space for people who would not 0:14:19.280 --> 0:14:23.040 usually have a space like this out here. All of 0:14:23.120 --> 0:14:26.600 us doing it together has been so fun, Like I 0:14:26.640 --> 0:14:29.000 love being the freak cows. Yeah, we are the freak 0:14:29.000 --> 0:14:31.480 cows and the poppy juice houses out here too. They 0:14:31.520 --> 0:14:34.280 always like cycle fun people through and we've been like 0:14:34.320 --> 0:14:38.800 partying together and having late nights and cooking gorgeous dinners ribs. 0:14:38.960 --> 0:14:44.000 Laurel is making lobster tonight. What yes fuck I got? 0:14:44.280 --> 0:14:47.960 She brought lobster tail. Babe, It's gonna be well. I 0:14:48.000 --> 0:14:50.640 made the eggs this morning. Um. France, okay, wait Rose 0:14:50.720 --> 0:14:54.360 made a gorgeous pie yesterday. Um that you should maybe 0:14:54.400 --> 0:14:57.280 we should start doing recipes. I won't, I won't. But 0:14:58.080 --> 0:15:03.760 Fran made a peach basil and something blueberry pie yesterday. 0:15:03.880 --> 0:15:07.440 It was chef's kiss and I stuck a bunch of 0:15:07.520 --> 0:15:11.640 candles into it and surprised Rose with her on birthday 0:15:11.960 --> 0:15:16.000 was my birthday pie A week early, A week early? Um? 0:15:16.080 --> 0:15:19.800 What else has been nice? Um? You know yesterday we 0:15:19.800 --> 0:15:21.720 were on the beach and I was sitting with two 0:15:21.720 --> 0:15:24.360 other trans people have like very quickly we started talking 0:15:24.400 --> 0:15:27.000 about trauma and you know, to be doing that next 0:15:27.000 --> 0:15:30.320 to a body of water is I love it surrounded 0:15:30.320 --> 0:15:32.320 by a bunch of a bunch of faggots, but like 0:15:32.520 --> 0:15:36.200 a safe distance away. Yeah, it's been great. I love 0:15:36.240 --> 0:15:38.680 Fire Island. I want to come back every summer forever. 0:15:39.240 --> 0:15:41.400 It's just like the movie. And this house is like 0:15:41.560 --> 0:15:46.560 Nancy Meyer's level. Caucasian is like so gorgeous. I I 0:15:46.600 --> 0:15:49.280 put on matching linen set the other day and walked 0:15:49.320 --> 0:15:52.360 around here while everyone was up the beach and definitely 0:15:52.440 --> 0:15:57.360 felt like, you know, the protagonist and something's got to give, 0:15:57.480 --> 0:15:59.800 and something's got to be giving. One of my favorite 0:15:59.800 --> 0:16:02.200 part about the trip, honestly, Rose has been like putting 0:16:02.200 --> 0:16:05.560 on cute little fits and walking to the pantry. Yeah, 0:16:05.280 --> 0:16:08.840 you do it. You like always look adorable, so you 0:16:08.920 --> 0:16:12.560 all you always come to start. Okay, you've start, You've 0:16:12.600 --> 0:16:14.600 been serving, We have been, we have been. You're the 0:16:14.600 --> 0:16:19.240 most popular girl, Well I'm I'm the most popular doll. 0:16:20.240 --> 0:16:22.880 We're the most popular dolls in the pantry. I love 0:16:23.000 --> 0:16:26.920 changing like five times a day. Yeah, it's been incredible, 0:16:26.960 --> 0:16:30.080 just doing little variations on the same outfit to swim 0:16:30.120 --> 0:16:33.040 suits today. Fran has been doing a lot of whale tales. 0:16:33.240 --> 0:16:35.400 Oh yeah, a lot of a lot of you know, 0:16:35.800 --> 0:16:39.320 thong in the afternoon and as you know, a more 0:16:39.440 --> 0:16:43.440 modest speedo in the evening. I wonder if anyone is 0:16:43.600 --> 0:16:47.200 currently like listening to our podcast somewhere on this island. 0:16:47.520 --> 0:16:52.560 Probably not Alo on this island, you say, we've also 0:16:52.640 --> 0:16:57.960 been Also, we've also discovered our mutual affection for the 0:16:58.320 --> 0:17:01.120 Broadway musical Once on This Island done a particular line 0:17:01.160 --> 0:17:05.520 from it, which like this, Oh find the tree, I'll 0:17:05.560 --> 0:17:12.520 come back with an goes juicy fat and well bed 0:17:12.680 --> 0:17:14.880 she's cutting us off. I hope you include this, TB. 0:17:15.000 --> 0:17:19.000 I hope you include the way that you silenced again silent. 0:17:19.160 --> 0:17:21.720 We will not be silent. Were you silent or were 0:17:21.720 --> 0:17:24.920 you silent when it comes to Phoebe being our producer? 0:17:25.000 --> 0:17:27.360 We were silent, and I swear to God you better 0:17:27.440 --> 0:17:41.240 include all of this. CB. I want everyone to know. 0:17:41.680 --> 0:17:43.640 For the audience you can't see me right now, I'm 0:17:43.680 --> 0:17:48.600 wearing a Versaci inspired tennis skirt, forty four spray time 0:17:49.560 --> 0:17:54.639 um yellow, a F one's a future for Sacchi coat 0:17:54.840 --> 0:18:00.840 and diamond tennis bracelet. Yes, the diamond tennis aunt Janet, 0:18:00.880 --> 0:18:04.320 Can I tell you the story about so my aunt? 0:18:04.760 --> 0:18:08.320 Um she is. I'm inspired by her a lot. She's 0:18:08.359 --> 0:18:11.640 really free spirited, super athletic, really artistic. I just wanted 0:18:11.680 --> 0:18:13.560 to travel and see the world. She was in the 0:18:13.600 --> 0:18:15.879 Las Vegas airport and she was running to catch her 0:18:15.880 --> 0:18:18.600 flight and she was dragging her roly suitcase. But something 0:18:18.640 --> 0:18:21.040 was stuck in her suitcase, and she was like, what 0:18:21.119 --> 0:18:23.120 the funk is this? And she looks down and there's 0:18:23.160 --> 0:18:25.840 a diamond tennis bracelet stuck in the wheel of her suitcase. 0:18:26.640 --> 0:18:28.879 And she picks it up and she takes it to 0:18:28.920 --> 0:18:32.200 airport security and she's like, hey, I found this, UM, 0:18:32.240 --> 0:18:34.359 here's my phone number. If anybody calls looking for it, 0:18:34.359 --> 0:18:36.760 I would like them to have it. And no one 0:18:36.760 --> 0:18:41.399 ever called a family And she went skiing in the 0:18:41.440 --> 0:18:47.359 sky seven years ago last week and uh I and 0:18:47.480 --> 0:18:49.840 I got and I took this with me. So and 0:18:49.840 --> 0:18:51.680 you know, it's crazy. I never started wearing it until 0:18:51.680 --> 0:18:53.919 I moved to l A because I wasn't worth I was. 0:18:54.040 --> 0:18:58.520 I struggle with worthiness a lot, and I was always 0:18:58.520 --> 0:19:01.800 like saving the tennis bracelet for a special occasion or something, 0:19:01.880 --> 0:19:03.879 and I was like, no, every day is a special 0:19:03.880 --> 0:19:08.040 occasion put on that bracelet. That is the power of jewelry. 0:19:08.240 --> 0:19:11.120 I do think very nicely leads us into what we're 0:19:11.119 --> 0:19:13.879 talking about today, because this kind of bracelet, to you 0:19:14.320 --> 0:19:16.359 is what the pearls are to the women of the 0:19:16.359 --> 0:19:19.920 First wi The pearls which are kind, which are really 0:19:19.920 --> 0:19:22.120 the inciting It's well, the inciting incident of the film 0:19:22.160 --> 0:19:27.000 is soccer Channing committing suicide. But the pearls with with 0:19:27.080 --> 0:19:30.199 the fantastic voice over acting. It was such an interesting 0:19:30.280 --> 0:19:32.760 choice to read. But they used all of their voices 0:19:33.040 --> 0:19:36.120 in the in the flashback. Yeah it is. It is 0:19:36.359 --> 0:19:39.240 so for anyone who doesn't know. The First Wives Club 0:19:39.280 --> 0:19:41.439 is a film about a bunch of women who have 0:19:41.480 --> 0:19:44.520 been left by their husbands and decided to get revenge. 0:19:44.600 --> 0:19:46.800 That is the basic cremise as played by Goldie Hawn, 0:19:47.119 --> 0:19:51.720 Bette Midler, Diane Keaton and then the soccer channing soccer 0:19:52.280 --> 0:19:55.520 the scene. But yeah, you're right, and that the prologue 0:19:55.560 --> 0:19:58.360 of the movie where they're all you know, young when 0:19:58.400 --> 0:20:01.760 they meet at college and form their lifelong friendships. Um, 0:20:01.800 --> 0:20:04.760 the actresses do dub all the younger actors and it 0:20:04.880 --> 0:20:09.879 is extremely uncanny. Yeah, it's it's it's an interesting choice. 0:20:10.160 --> 0:20:14.439 Was this movie like important to your childhood? Um, like 0:20:14.480 --> 0:20:16.400 when did it come into your life? Or like what 0:20:16.440 --> 0:20:19.240 were the what are the formative elements of it? Honestly, 0:20:19.359 --> 0:20:23.919 I love I've never really connected with romantic partnerships as 0:20:23.920 --> 0:20:26.200 a plot line that I really was drawn to in 0:20:26.600 --> 0:20:29.320 film and narrative. Like I I'm much more interested in 0:20:29.400 --> 0:20:34.080 ambition and friendship as like things that drive a plot. 0:20:34.640 --> 0:20:37.600 And this movie was all about like girlfriends coming together 0:20:37.600 --> 0:20:40.760 to support each other, sisters are doing it for themselves. Yes, 0:20:40.840 --> 0:20:43.520 and the wardrobes were great, and that they all went 0:20:43.520 --> 0:20:45.600 off to do different things and then came back together. 0:20:45.600 --> 0:20:49.959 That just seemed like a real fantasy to me. And um, 0:20:50.000 --> 0:20:52.240 you know Eliza with Berkeley, isn't it as as a 0:20:52.280 --> 0:20:56.000 new wife? I just I just I think just the 0:20:56.040 --> 0:20:57.639 story of them all coming together and at the end 0:20:57.680 --> 0:20:59.920 having their community center and then wearing power suits and 0:21:00.000 --> 0:21:01.400 singing at the end, I was like, that's the happy 0:21:01.480 --> 0:21:04.280 ending I wanted my life. My happy ending is friendship. 0:21:04.520 --> 0:21:09.080 My happy ending is community and connecting with my girlfriends 0:21:09.440 --> 0:21:12.960 and supporting each other. And that was honestly one of 0:21:13.000 --> 0:21:17.360 the first movies where I saw that as an opportunity 0:21:17.400 --> 0:21:20.160 as something that was possible as a happy ending where 0:21:20.400 --> 0:21:22.480 they didn't drive off the cliff at the end. Yes, 0:21:24.760 --> 0:21:27.560 one of my favorite movies. It's one of my favorite 0:21:27.560 --> 0:21:30.760 movies as well. And I love the ending because I 0:21:30.760 --> 0:21:32.719 think the ending was a really bold choice. But like 0:21:32.840 --> 0:21:36.800 I like happy endings, yeah, me too. I also like similarly, 0:21:36.800 --> 0:21:39.040 like I have a hard time latching onto like you know, 0:21:39.160 --> 0:21:42.000 romance plot lines, and like for the engine of this 0:21:42.040 --> 0:21:47.479 movie to be revenge is very like that is my tea. Honestly. 0:21:47.480 --> 0:21:49.800 We were just talking about The Northman, that Nicole Kinman 0:21:49.880 --> 0:21:51.879 movie that came out, and the whole the engine of 0:21:51.880 --> 0:21:55.280 that entire movie is revenge, like Crystal Clear, and I 0:21:55.320 --> 0:21:58.280 was just locked into a movie that I normally would 0:21:58.320 --> 0:22:01.119 not be, you know, concerned with, because as revenge as 0:22:01.119 --> 0:22:04.000 a concept I think is very amazing. But also in 0:22:04.080 --> 0:22:07.439 revenge movies, like I think you eventually have to reckon 0:22:07.560 --> 0:22:11.360 with what comes after revenge, which I think is very 0:22:11.440 --> 0:22:14.800 much the end of this movie, because they realize, you know, 0:22:14.880 --> 0:22:18.640 kind of at the last minute, that just getting revenge 0:22:18.680 --> 0:22:20.639 on their husbands is not enough. They actually want to 0:22:20.720 --> 0:22:25.240 do something that helps the world. They're paying it forward 0:22:25.400 --> 0:22:28.640 and how it brought them together. You know, this challenge 0:22:28.840 --> 0:22:30.439 that they were all facing, and they also they were 0:22:30.480 --> 0:22:32.760 all suffering in silence, right, they were all getting together. 0:22:32.800 --> 0:22:35.320 I mean like I'm fine, I'm fine. In reality, everybody 0:22:35.400 --> 0:22:39.880 was really struggling and needed support and getting together with 0:22:39.920 --> 0:22:44.320 your girlfriends and having a moment, a really staggering moment 0:22:44.840 --> 0:22:47.720 two realize that, like, hey, I'm going to be vulnerable 0:22:47.760 --> 0:22:49.560 and share something that I am not proud of or 0:22:49.560 --> 0:22:52.720 that makes me uncomfortable or that I'm ashamed of. And 0:22:52.720 --> 0:22:55.600 and then everybody share something similar. Well, that's one of 0:22:55.680 --> 0:22:57.639