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Speaker 1: It is Patriots linebacker Brandon Copeland. Brandon, good morning, good morning,

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Speaker 1: good morning. I'm loving the soundtrack. You woke me up

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Speaker 1: this morning. I love it with with Cam Newton testing

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Speaker 1: positive and the game being moved. Was this the strangest

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Speaker 1: week that you've had in your NFL career? Um? I

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Speaker 1: could easily say it was a week like no other. Um,

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Speaker 1: I'm plussing in it for sure. I've never had a

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Speaker 1: was definitely a different week. Uh, to put it brankly,

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Speaker 1: were you on the bus that broke down last night?

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Speaker 1: And if so, how angry was Bill? That's that's what

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Speaker 1: I want to know. To be quiet, I was with you,

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Speaker 1: I had you. Just that's exclusive news right there. I

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Speaker 1: had no idea how bust broke down. I was probably

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Speaker 1: sleep for your third time. Good. But you guys were,

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Speaker 1: I mean, we were talking about this earlier. You guys

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Speaker 1: You know it completely different. Uh, you know scenario in

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Speaker 1: being in that game well into the fourth quarter. You

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Speaker 1: must be pretty happy about that this morning? Oh, I

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Speaker 1: mean yeah, I guess we you know, you want to

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Speaker 1: at the end of the day, the result is the result,

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Speaker 1: so you know, unfortunately it's still a loss. But but

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Speaker 1: there's in every loss there's a lot that you can learn.

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Speaker 1: And clearly, like you said, there was definitely some different circumstances.

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Speaker 1: But who knows, you know, if we'll ever have to

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Speaker 1: do something like that again, you know, God forbid we do.

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Speaker 1: So you know, at the end of the day, you know,

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Speaker 1: you put the football down, you play some plays, and

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Speaker 1: you look at the score at the end of the game,

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Speaker 1: and you want to see a W in that and

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Speaker 1: in that in that column, and we don't have that.

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Speaker 1: So you know, we just have to go back and

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Speaker 1: we evaluate some things. We did some great things last night.

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Speaker 1: We also did some things that we know we can

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Speaker 1: be better. And even in those some of the great

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Speaker 1: make them, um even greater or better place. So that

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Speaker 1: that's just part of the process. And um, you know,

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Speaker 1: we're looking forward to building and bouncing back next week.

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Speaker 1: So we shouldn't be celebrating another moral victory this morning,

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Speaker 1: is what you're saying. You guys can do whatever you

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Speaker 1: would like to do for me, and you know, I'll

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Speaker 1: speak for myself. For me, it's it's always about getting better,

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Speaker 1: even in the winds, you know, it's it's it's it's

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Speaker 1: what can I do to be better next time? Because

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Speaker 1: clearly you know, UM, if you're not trying to improve yourself,

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Speaker 1: then that's when you let your competition, um catch you. Well,

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Speaker 1: as fans, we sell break those things because that's all week.

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Speaker 1: Hold on, do you want me to introduce you to Brandon?

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Speaker 1: He might not know who he's talking to. And I

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Speaker 1: know you're a team shot. I know you're too shy.

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Speaker 1: Do you know who? Do you know who you're speaking with?

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Speaker 1: I do not. I know that much. I'm talking about Wiggy.

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Speaker 1: He is the man who began the dynasty with his

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Speaker 1: performance during the Snow Bowl. The great Germaine Wiggins, one

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Speaker 1: of the one of the greatest ever put the uniform on. Okay,

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Speaker 1: and he hasn't stopped talking. That's that's true. Pat yourself

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Speaker 1: on the back, Brandon, because nobody's gonna do it after this.

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Speaker 1: That's what my mama used to tell me all the time.

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Speaker 1: After this interview, he will be happy to send an

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Speaker 1: autograph eight by ten your way, Yes, I keep moving

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Speaker 1: so Brandon. You know, as fans, we celebrate the moral

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Speaker 1: victories because we watched the game and we go, Okay,

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Speaker 1: our team can now hang with a team like the

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Speaker 1: kid the City Chiefs is there, you know when you

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Speaker 1: look at that game. Ultimately, I know it's all about

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Speaker 1: away from a game, especially defensively, when you you play

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Speaker 1: I mean there's, like I said, there's always some things

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Speaker 1: You know, be in football, as you know, you can't

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Speaker 1: be just negative on yourself. You can't be too high

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Speaker 1: And and and there's definitely, like I said, some positive things,

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Speaker 1: What's the adjustment been like, you know, because I wonder

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Speaker 1: So you know, ultimately we whatever we're doing, our opponent

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Speaker 1: We're all still growing together. Not just the Patriots, it's

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Speaker 1: which is it's a good thing. Does Cam have a

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Speaker 1: I don't think so. I don't know, Yeah, I don't

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Speaker 1: now I don't. I don't think he has a nickname

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Speaker 1: for you. And was it was it nice and different

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Speaker 1: It was different. It was It's funny, it's uh. I

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Speaker 1: But it reminded me of of my college day. So

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Speaker 1: but yeah, Brandon, speaking of college, I know that you

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Speaker 1: And so I think that there's for me life one

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Speaker 1: So you are you are you're hosting you're actually doing

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Speaker 1: very impressive, Brandon, very impressive. I appreciate you. I'll appreciate

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Speaker 1: to thank you so much. Well, listen, we'll get everybody

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Speaker 1: We're really happy to have you on. Thanks for And

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Speaker 1: Thank gotcha. I will try to do that all right,

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