Speaker 1: All right, welcome back to another episode of Car Stories.
Speaker 1: This episode is a very special episode because this is
Speaker 1: the origin story of how Amelia and I know each other.
Speaker 2: Yeah, and this episode was actually filmed before the understanding
Speaker 2: that I was going to co host with you too.
Speaker 1: I think Car Stories. I was feeling like, I don't
Speaker 1: want to do this anymore. I started losing that northern
Speaker 1: star of that purpose. And then you know when they
Speaker 1: say things happen for a reason, or people come into
Speaker 1: your life for a particular reason. That was those moments
Speaker 1: where it all kind of made sense, you know.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I always say that and I believe it wholeheartedly
Speaker 2: that everything happens for a reason. And yeah, it was
Speaker 2: a great conversation. I felt like I had known you
Speaker 2: my entire life. But people will understand where our kind
Speaker 2: of foundation came from after they listened to this episode.
Speaker 1: Yeah, everything happens for a reason.
Speaker 2: That it does.
Speaker 1: Definitely this episode did. So hopefully you guys enjoy. I'm
Speaker 1: sitting here today with Amelia Hartford. We had a kind
Speaker 1: of a coffee sit down like a few months ago,
Speaker 1: got to know each other and I was super impressed
Speaker 1: by her story, her ethos, you know, her journey in life.
Speaker 1: She's a fellow actor, and she is a car lover
Speaker 1: or car aficionado, and she's a true rarity in this
Speaker 1: world because she's a young woman that actually wrenches on
Speaker 1: her own cars. It's not just lip service and saying
Speaker 1: that I like cars or you know, and I like
Speaker 1: ferraris and take pictures of it. She actually wrenches and
Speaker 1: thank you. And it's awesome that she also has a
Speaker 1: grand national which I have, and she loves that.
Speaker 2: To be fair, it's a limited it's not a real one.
Speaker 2: But I am such a fan of gea bodies body. Yeah.
Speaker 1: Same same, same, same same thing. Yeah. So I don't
Speaker 1: know if you want to share, Amelia. You know, we
Speaker 1: actually have a connective tissue and it's up to you
Speaker 1: to if you want to share this, because that was
Speaker 1: a really compelling story and I feel like you know something.
Speaker 2: Yeah. I mean, I am a pretty open book, so
Speaker 2: I feel like I really have no reason not to share.
Speaker 2: I should preface I lost my dad at a very
Speaker 2: young age due to suicide, so mental health has been
Speaker 2: so important to me, and growing up, I watched my
Speaker 2: dad live breathe bleed by trying to become a movie
Speaker 2: producer and he was able to do two movies that
Speaker 2: unfortunately didn't make a return whatever, But he tried. And
Speaker 2: I just watched him every night, come homework on the
Speaker 2: script every night, try to try to make something out
Speaker 2: of it. And I think that's where I grew up
Speaker 2: to see a lot of my drive. But in one
Speaker 2: of the films that he did, he had cast you
Speaker 2: in and it was called Forbidden Warrior. And I had
Speaker 2: actually met you when I was a little child and
Speaker 2: didn't put that together until much later in life. And
Speaker 2: that was pretty wild. And this is before the Fast
Speaker 2: franchise and everything. This was well year, This was in
Speaker 2: like two thousand and six, seven.
Speaker 1: Two thousand and five, two thousand and five, two thousand
Speaker 1: and five.
Speaker 2: How crazy is that?
Speaker 1: Yeah? So since then, what's what's your journey?
Speaker 2: Ben? I lost my dad probably three years after that
Speaker 2: had happened. I had this rude awakening that I was
Speaker 2: going to be alone in my life. I didn't have
Speaker 2: a dad to tell me like, this is what you
Speaker 2: should do with your money for financing, this is how
Speaker 2: you should say for retirement, you know. And one of
Speaker 2: the first decisions I had to make in my life
Speaker 2: was the first car I was going to buy myself
Speaker 2: and I couldn't go to my mom. I didn't have
Speaker 2: anyone in my life to go to, so I resulted
Speaker 2: to the Internet, and at the time I didn't realize
Speaker 2: the race car forums would be biased towards race cars.
Speaker 2: I thought that was just oh die hard car enthusiasts,
Speaker 2: and these forums had told me that I should get
Speaker 2: something that rear wal drive and manual, and something bigger
Speaker 2: than a four cylinder. So I listened to the Internet,
Speaker 2: which I'm thankful I did. My first car was in
Speaker 2: Infinity G thirty five and I had never driven stick
Speaker 2: a day in my life. I picked up this car,
Speaker 2: roasted the clutch on the way home, but fell in
Speaker 2: love with wanting to perfect how to drive stick, and
Speaker 2: that was just something that I was able to divert
Speaker 2: my attention from having just recently lost my dad to
Speaker 2: then having the sense of freedom and being able to
Speaker 2: go on drives and really wanting to shift down match
Speaker 2: and park on a hill and see if I can
Speaker 2: pull forward without it rolling back. And it was something
Speaker 2: that occupied my time and my mental And then it
Speaker 2: was shortly after that that I moved to Indiana, where
Speaker 2: I met the Bloomington Car Crew known as B Crew,
Speaker 2: and these guys took me under their wing. They were
Speaker 2: big brothers to me in a time where I really
Speaker 2: needed that. And instead of I was going through a
Speaker 2: really dark time and instead of partying on the weekends,
Speaker 2: I had this community where we would work on cars,
Speaker 2: one specifically a DSM an Eagle Town that was just
Speaker 2: constantly breaking down, so there was always an excuse to
Speaker 2: get together and we'll work on cars. I am so
Speaker 2: grateful of that time in the community because when I
Speaker 2: lost my family, I felt like I had this newfound
Speaker 2: family and wherever I went, I could find that car family.
Speaker 2: So that was a huge pivotal time in my life
Speaker 2: to feel like I'd always be safe somewhere. But it
Speaker 2: wasn't too long after that where I couldn't turn on
Speaker 2: the television without feeling guilty. I would get mad at
Speaker 2: myself for not pursuing film and television, not pursuing being
Speaker 2: an actress, because that's something that meant the world to me,
Speaker 2: and it's all I've ever wanted to do. The earliest
Speaker 2: thought in my head was I want to be an
Speaker 2: actress when I grow up. I love creating, I love
Speaker 2: living in the moment. I just love everything about it.
Speaker 2: And at the time i'd since lost the G thirty five.
Speaker 2: I was doing SECA races with it. One day on
Speaker 2: the way from the track, someone had hit me at
Speaker 2: a stop totaled the car. The guys helped me kind
Speaker 2: of put together this two forty sx ls swapped. It
Speaker 2: was I love the car, so Nissan was a big
Speaker 2: part of that, as well as Chevy small Blocks. But
Speaker 2: I packed this little Nissan of mine with everything I
Speaker 2: owned in it, drove cross country, got a little apartment
Speaker 2: in Hollywood, and have just been pursuing the Hollywood dream
Speaker 2: for ten years now. I worked as a waitress, living
Speaker 2: paycheck to paycheck. For six years of that was on unemployment,
Speaker 2: food stamps, just trying everything in anything I could to
Speaker 2: catch a break. It wasn't until nine years after being
Speaker 2: here they got my first role in something. But that's
Speaker 2: where the car community came back into my life again.
Speaker 2: Was when I moved back. I was able to look
Speaker 2: on the forums find where the local car meets were.
Speaker 2: It was nice that I always knew I could go
Speaker 2: somewhere and find that community. And then probably about six
Speaker 2: years into it, as when I started youtubing. I had
Speaker 2: a lot of pressure from peers from my mom actually too,
Speaker 2: And it was so funny for my mom to tell
Speaker 2: me to start youtubing, because I'm like, what do you know, Mom,
Speaker 2: YouTube please? But she was right, and I started my
Speaker 2: first video just walking around my two forty. I had
Speaker 2: been daily driving it to auditions with no air conditioning,
Speaker 2: constantly breaking down, and I just walked around the car
Speaker 2: and said, I don't know how I'm going to do it,
Speaker 2: but I'm going to rebuild this car and learn how
Speaker 2: to drift in one month, then follow along. And I've
Speaker 2: been doing three videos a week ever since. It was
Speaker 2: only this past year that I started tapering down to
Speaker 2: one a week so I could really devote more time
Speaker 2: into acting. But that's the long winded answer of what
Speaker 2: I've kind of been doing the past fifteen or so
Speaker 2: years now.
Speaker 1: Well, and you have a pretty big movie coming out
Speaker 1: pretty soon, can we say? Can we say? Yeah?
Speaker 2: We can say. I'm so blessed and thankful to have
Speaker 2: the opportunity to be in the new Grand Turismo adaption.
Speaker 1: It's awesome.
Speaker 2: It was that such peace on this project because I'm like,
Speaker 2: I'm literally living a dream that I've only imagined of
Speaker 2: getting to blend the world of both cars and film.
Speaker 2: That was really cool. Wow. It was also really nice too,
Speaker 2: being on a set where everyone was just so kind
Speaker 2: because you hear all these stories. But thankfully, I couldn't
Speaker 2: have been more blessed with just how awesome everyone was.
Speaker 2: The opportunity was great, and I got to live in
Speaker 2: Hungary for a couple of months.
Speaker 1: That's so cool. Yeah, I met your father. I mean,
Speaker 1: your father would be so proud of you. And you know,
Speaker 1: my memories of your father. I remember you asked me,
Speaker 1: You're like, hey, I don't know if you have good
Speaker 1: experiences with my pops and hopefully it doesn't affect coffee
Speaker 1: that we're having. But no, he was. It was such
Speaker 1: a great supporter and it was like one of my
Speaker 1: earlier films and it was like a pretty big role
Speaker 1: for me. And you know, memories of him were always
Speaker 1: it's every everything's positive, you know, because he had he did.
Speaker 1: He had such great energy when he came to say
Speaker 1: you could tell that he was so enthusiastic and passionate
Speaker 1: about he you know what he was doing, you know,
Speaker 1: So I did not I don't have one single like
Speaker 1: negative memory. Unfortunately, you know, just this the nature of
Speaker 1: this business. Some movies work and some don't, you know,
Speaker 1: and you know we were limited by money and all that,
Speaker 1: you know, But I every memory of that film is positive.
Speaker 1: You know.
Speaker 2: It so trippy to me that that used to know
Speaker 2: my dad, that you guys got to work together. It's
Speaker 2: just I didn't really have anyone aside from my mom
Speaker 2: who he really knew him. So it was so trippy
Speaker 2: to hear you just even talking about him. And it's nice.
Speaker 2: The memories are good because obviously I've talked about it.
Speaker 2: He had a drug addiction, alcoholism, and towards the end
Speaker 2: things did get pretty ugly. But it's really nice to
Speaker 2: hear that least at work doing what he loved, and
Speaker 2: all he had been trying to do was it sounds
Speaker 2: like he was genuinely very happy.
Speaker 1: And I can relate with that. Issues with fathers, you know,
Speaker 1: because I grew up with the stepfather and I never
Speaker 1: knew my biological father and the only thing that I
Speaker 1: ever heard of him was negative things. Yeah, my whole life.
Speaker 1: You know, my relatives on my mother's side would say,
Speaker 1: you know, just don't turn out to be like your father. Yeah,
Speaker 1: fuck are you talking about?
Speaker 2: I'm there.
Speaker 1: I met this dude, you know, and I actually met him.
Speaker 2: Did you? Yeah?
Speaker 1: I met him.
Speaker 2: It was that like, And how long ago.
Speaker 1: I met him? Right after college? Was so? It was
Speaker 1: like ninety five, ninety five, ninety actually around ninety six.
Speaker 1: You know. I had so many like issues with my
Speaker 1: stepfather growing up, you know, and with my mother, you know,
Speaker 1: I don't I don't think they were ready to be parents,
Speaker 1: you know. And then I felt like I needed to
Speaker 1: know who my biological father you know was, and I
Speaker 1: you know, kept asking them. I was like, how do
Speaker 1: I find this guy? And my stepfather actually had his
Speaker 1: Korean Social Security number and he was able to track
Speaker 1: him down.
Speaker 2: Really yeah.
Speaker 1: And then my mother contacted his sister who was living
Speaker 1: in Washington, d C. And somehow they got a hold
Speaker 1: of him, and then he flew out to LA to
Speaker 1: meet me.
Speaker 2: Was this after your success?
Speaker 1: No? No, no, no, no, that was I was like, I
Speaker 1: had like ten jobs and living in some like cockroach
Speaker 1: infested apartment, and uh, you know, I had a you know,
Speaker 1: a million jobs just to survive. And in my mind,
Speaker 1: I had this idea of what my father was going
Speaker 1: to be like, you know, I thought he was going
Speaker 1: to be like mister Rogers, like show up in a
Speaker 1: Carnigan and he was gonna, you know, say all these
Speaker 1: like wonderful things to me, and you know, we're gonna
Speaker 1: go throw the baseball together, and they were gonna live
Speaker 1: happily ever after.
Speaker 2: Well, you're gonna have to create some narrative, right, having
Speaker 2: no idea what to go into it.
Speaker 1: Yeah, especially having such a you know, tough relationship with
Speaker 1: my stepfather. You know, I mean he was really tough
Speaker 1: on me. First of all. I never felt like I
Speaker 1: was his son and I never felt loved right, So
Speaker 1: you know, I had this idea, imaginary idea of what
Speaker 1: the perfect father would be. And he showed up at
Speaker 1: the airport. I picked him up at Lax and it
Speaker 1: was like out of a like a bad Yakuza movie.
Speaker 1: He showed up in like a red blazer with like
Speaker 1: gold glasses, sunglasses, and he and he had this like
Speaker 1: woman next to him and he's and he pulled out
Speaker 1: this like Virginia slim cigarette, you know, it's like a
Speaker 1: woman's cigarette, and he lit it up inside the airport
Speaker 1: and he looked like straight out of like a Japanese
Speaker 1: Atkuza movie like straight out of this gold watch, right,
Speaker 1: And then I couldn't see his eyes because it's like
Speaker 1: he was wearing gold sunk like Porsche Carrera sunglasses, right,
Speaker 1: and I'm like, oh, that's not him. But as soon
Speaker 1: as I saw him, I was like, I think that's
Speaker 1: my dad because my mother and all my relatives, my
Speaker 1: aunts would talk about how you know, he was like,
Speaker 1: you know, kind of like a he was a thug.
Speaker 1: You know, he was like straight out like he went
Speaker 1: to jail, Like he literally went to jail for like
Speaker 1: a prostitution ring, and you know, like he beat my mother.
Speaker 1: You know, he was like that dude, like he got
Speaker 1: my mother knocked up purely just to get like money
Speaker 1: out of her family. Right. So I heard all these
Speaker 1: stories growing up. And then I see him. I'm like,
Speaker 1: I hope that's not my biological father. And he sees
Speaker 1: me and he walks up to me and he's like, hey,
Speaker 1: song Hoo, which is my full Korean name, sung Ho? Right,
Speaker 1: so Koreans have like two names, like it's sung Ho
Speaker 1: or song he.
Speaker 2: I was actually gonna ask you about why you shortened yours.
Speaker 1: So I can answer that it was basically I had
Speaker 1: to shorten it because nobody enjoyged it could pronounce it right.
Speaker 1: So yeah, the song was just easier. And so then
Speaker 1: I take him to the hotel and this woman that
Speaker 1: was next to him was his translator because he thought
Speaker 1: that I didn't speak Korean and he barely spoke Oh,
Speaker 1: he didn't speak any English at all, but I spoke
Speaker 1: enough Korean at that time to be able to talk
Speaker 1: to him, you know, and too basic conversation. And then
Speaker 1: we go to lunch, and this is comedy. He takes
Speaker 1: off his sunglasses and I can't stop staring at his eyebrows,
Speaker 1: and he goes, I know you're staring at my eyebrows
Speaker 1: and I'm like, yeah, they look like green onions. Like
Speaker 1: what is wrong with your eyebrows? Are they tattooed? And
Speaker 1: he goes yeah. That woman that came with me kept
Speaker 1: saying that I don't have a lot of eyebrow and
Speaker 1: she said that, you know, Asian women are tattooing their
Speaker 1: eyebrows and if I do it, it'll make me look better.
Speaker 1: And the dude fucked it all up. I just I
Speaker 1: was about to lose it. I'm like, this dude is
Speaker 1: like gangster, but he has these like green onion eyebrows, right,
Speaker 1: and he puts his and then he puts his sunglasses
Speaker 1: back on, and he's such a ladies man. The waitress,
Speaker 1: the Krane waitress came over and he's like, you know,
Speaker 1: he's florred with her, and she's all smitten. And I'm like, oh,
Speaker 1: I could see why my mother, you know, like you know,
Speaker 1: fell for him. And and then he he he starts
Speaker 1: to do this like like half ass Oscar performance about
Speaker 1: how he's been looking for me my whole life, and
Speaker 1: takes off his glasses and he's trying I'm an actor, right,
Speaker 1: Like he's so he's trying to cry, right, And I'm like,
Speaker 1: if we had a camera on him, he would have
Speaker 1: been a comedy, right, And I'm like, what is he doing.
Speaker 1: He's like he's trying to cry, and he's trying to
Speaker 1: convince me that you know, he's like a great dad,
Speaker 1: and like you know he he I'm like, what's the catch?
Speaker 1: And my mother kept saying it's like, hey, watch out,
Speaker 1: because he's gonna there's gonna be something behind everything he does.
Speaker 2: Did he want something?
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, totally. And then he starts to ask questions
Speaker 1: about my mother and it's like, hey, I heard that
Speaker 1: your mom, you know, she has some like real estate
Speaker 1: and she's like doing all right, And I'm like, yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: well what's it to you? And he's like, you know,
Speaker 1: I have a sister who lives in Virginia, and you know,
Speaker 1: I was wondering if you know, father and son, like,
Speaker 1: you know, we could do something together. And I'm like
Speaker 1: do what? And he goes, you know, maybe you should
Speaker 1: forget about this acting thing. You know, I don't know
Speaker 1: if that's gonna work right. You know, he's like, you
Speaker 1: should go to Korea. I could take you to Korea.
Speaker 1: You can like go, but I'm I barely speak Korean,
Speaker 1: Like that doesn't make any sense. He goes, well, we
Speaker 1: should do some business together, and I'm like what kind
Speaker 1: of business? And he's like, you know, I have a
Speaker 1: friend that has a strip club, and you know, I
Speaker 1: think if we open some strip clubs together, you know,
Speaker 1: we could do well, like you could, you know, translate,
Speaker 1: you could, you know, take care of the English bar.
Speaker 1: And I'm looking at him, going the fuck is this
Speaker 1: guy talking about strip club?
Speaker 2: Right?
Speaker 1: So he had me take them to every strip club
Speaker 1: in La really yeah, to go do research. And then
Speaker 1: that what during the process, I was like, what the
Speaker 1: fuck is this guy doing? Is he just met me
Speaker 1: and he's like hagging me to all these strip clubs.
Speaker 2: That's going to be so hard to like have this
Speaker 2: not expectation, but this perceived reality of what you're going
Speaker 2: to go into and then just be completely shocked.
Speaker 1: Yeah by c Yeah. I mean when I tell the story,
Speaker 1: it's very entertaining because you can't make this kind of
Speaker 1: stuff up right, And he looked like.
Speaker 2: No, this sounds like it could make a great film.
Speaker 1: Yeah, And he was at home because he looked like
Speaker 1: a yakuza gangster, like you know, the way he's sad
Speaker 1: and he like smoking in there, the way he kind
Speaker 1: of addressed the girls and stuff.
Speaker 2: He just it paints a picture that I can vividly see.
Speaker 1: Yeah. Yeah, And I'm like, you know, and he has
Speaker 1: this like woman that's doing all his bidding, like translator
Speaker 1: stuff and like assistance, and I'm like, this is just odd.
Speaker 1: And and then he drops it on me. He's like, well,
Speaker 1: first of all, he gives me this gold card, this
Speaker 1: credit card, this visa card, right which later I tried
Speaker 1: to use it and it it was kept. It was declined.
Speaker 1: There was no money. He's like, you know, here's here's
Speaker 1: here's a old card for you to use for all
Speaker 1: these years I've never been there. And it's like the client.
Speaker 1: I try to get something at Big five, like a baseball,
Speaker 1: a of it, like the client. But he asked for
Speaker 1: six hundred something thousand dollars.
Speaker 2: Wow.
Speaker 1: Right, He's like, could you ask your mom if she
Speaker 1: could loan us six hundred thousand dollars so I could
Speaker 1: open the strip club in Virginia? Right? And I'm like,
Speaker 1: she's had to work her whole life, right, like as
Speaker 1: like a housekeeper and a cleaner. She's not going to
Speaker 1: give neither of us or anybody in this world six
Speaker 1: hundred thousand dollars to open a strip club? Are you
Speaker 1: out of your mind? Right? And after that, you know,
Speaker 1: I kind of said, I don't think I need to
Speaker 1: be around this dude. And you know, after some of
Speaker 1: the Fast and Furious movies, I got a.
Speaker 2: Call from I was going to say, did he reach out?
Speaker 1: Yeah, when he was dying. He was dying he had
Speaker 1: some type of like fatal cancer, and they asked. You know,
Speaker 1: I had a cousin on his side that reached out
Speaker 1: to me and said you know, he wanted to see me,
Speaker 1: and I was like, see me. And I was in Georgia.
Speaker 1: I remember I was in Georgia, Atlanta shooting and we
Speaker 1: were wrapping a Fast and Furious five and I remember
Speaker 1: where I was at the I was having like drinks
Speaker 1: and the sandwich Burgers across the street from the hotel
Speaker 1: with Paul, Paul Walker and you know, in a couple
Speaker 1: of guys that were working on the movie. And I
Speaker 1: get this call and I was like, I stepped outside
Speaker 1: and I was like, I came back in all frazzled,
Speaker 1: and I remember I asked Paul. I was like, what
Speaker 1: do you think I should do? And this is where
Speaker 1: you know, Paul was like so sweet, like you should
Speaker 1: go see him, and I'm like, I don't know, man,
Speaker 1: I feel like there's something up. And then I called
Speaker 1: my mom and she's like, don't go because they're going
Speaker 1: to probably give you the bill right for because I'm
Speaker 1: sure he doesn't have insurance right And it was one
Speaker 1: of those weird things. You know, It's like it sucks
Speaker 1: because you know, I wish we had like a relationship,
Speaker 1: but he turned out to be like, you know, like
Speaker 1: the worst. I mean, you say that your cars are
Speaker 1: your kids. How many cars do you have now?
Speaker 2: Oh my goodness, I think I'm at eleven eleven right now?
Speaker 2: Maybe twelve?
Speaker 1: Wow?
Speaker 2: Yeah, and finding parking for them is just half the fun.
Speaker 1: Yeah. Where do you park out these cars all over
Speaker 1: the place?
Speaker 2: Yeah, at my shop, and then I keep a couple
Speaker 2: at the house too, so I'm constantly just moving cars
Speaker 2: around and shuffling and figuring that out.
Speaker 1: I met you downstairs, and let's talk about that child that.
Speaker 3: You drove over here, your daily driver. That was like,
Speaker 3: that's pretty impressive. Yeah, my Twin Turbo Z six. I
Speaker 3: think it might still be the only Twin Turbo Zo six.
Speaker 3: I haven't been on the internet forums lately to see
Speaker 3: if anyone else has Twin turbod theirs. But yeah, I
Speaker 3: love the car.
Speaker 2: I really enjoy it.
Speaker 1: That's pretty cool.
Speaker 2: I mean, if people want to see it, I helple
Speaker 2: the videos on YouTube. I do stupid things with fun cars.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's pretty impressive. It's pretty impressive that you wrench.
Speaker 1: Like the other day, I was texting you and you're like, oh,
Speaker 1: changing breaks on my grand National.
Speaker 2: Buicke Right, Yeah, I saw College GNX though it's technically
Speaker 2: a fake GNX. But yeah, when we're texting, I was like,
Speaker 2: my hands are covered in grease because I'm packing the
Speaker 2: bearings and I'm like trying to respond. But I just enjoyed.
Speaker 2: There's something so therapeutic about working on a car. Yeah,
Speaker 2: it's nice to be able to take something apart and
Speaker 2: then put it back together better than what it was
Speaker 2: when you started. And of course it has to go
Speaker 2: right otherwise you're just banging your head on a wall.
Speaker 2: I trying to, you know, need it to go take
Speaker 2: a walk because you can't figure out why, you know
Speaker 2: X isn't working.
Speaker 1: But do you feel pressure to have to record everything
Speaker 1: you're doing around your cars?
Speaker 2: You know, it's funny you ask that. Yeah, I mean
Speaker 2: I feel guilty in a way. Even if I'm driving
Speaker 2: my cars, I don't at least bring my camera or
Speaker 2: like if I go on car rallies or even just
Speaker 2: Sunday drives, I need to be able to record it
Speaker 2: or capture it. So sometimes it pulls me out of
Speaker 2: being in the moment because I'm constantly thinking, Oh I
Speaker 2: should have shot that, Oh that would have been a
Speaker 2: cool shot. Oh wait, this would have been a great
Speaker 2: thing for this. But yeah, I do that thought does.
Speaker 2: It definitely cross my mind constantly because at the end
Speaker 2: of the day, you know, you're telling a story in
Speaker 2: these twenty minute episodes of this is what we're doing today,
Speaker 2: this is how I'm going to do it, this is
Speaker 2: it finished, and this is how it performs.
Speaker 1: You know. Social media I have this like weird relationship
Speaker 1: with it these days, Like, am I actually really afraid
Speaker 1: of it? Because it gets me like super bummed out,
Speaker 1: you know why. So I end up like comparing myself
Speaker 1: to like other people and going, hey, I don't have
Speaker 1: this many followers, I don't have this many likes, and
Speaker 1: then you know, it's not like I don't have any
Speaker 1: but then I go, well, what am I even thinking
Speaker 1: about it? And then it starts to like trigger all
Speaker 1: of my insecurity.
Speaker 2: So I do feel like a big reason for people
Speaker 2: struggling with so much mental health in today's world is
Speaker 2: because of social media. You're constantly comparing yourself to other people,
Speaker 2: You're constantly seeing things you don't have a big reason
Speaker 2: of why I started youtubing was well, one, of course,
Speaker 2: I wanted just to make a good living for myself.
Speaker 2: I didn't do it for the money, but I was
Speaker 2: like if I can do anything else and just get
Speaker 2: by instead of being a waitress, then I'd be happy.
Speaker 2: But also because other servers in the restaurant, because the
Speaker 2: joke it's like, oh, you're an actor, what restaurant do
Speaker 2: you work at? I would see other servers and friends
Speaker 2: of mine lose roles and opportunities to people who had
Speaker 2: a following social media. So that was a big factor
Speaker 2: in me being like, well, if I could make a
Speaker 2: living to still be able to do auditions, do something
Speaker 2: actually joy doing, working on cars, and not have to waitress,
Speaker 2: and I can build a social media presence at the
Speaker 2: same time, that just made the most sense for me,
Speaker 2: And I'm really glad I did that because it would
Speaker 2: have been very easy for me not to have and
Speaker 2: I don't know where I would have been been today
Speaker 2: if not.
Speaker 1: So for someone that is trying to start a YouTube
Speaker 1: channel or build content, right, just because you put stuff
Speaker 1: out there doesn't mean that it's going to be successful.
Speaker 1: I mean you are successful and you have a following,
Speaker 1: like a legitimate following. I mean you have like like
Speaker 1: a million subscribers or something like that, right, right, So, like,
Speaker 1: I mean what do you think, why is it you
Speaker 1: think people gravitate towards you, you know, and your your content,
Speaker 1: like what is the what is it like the ethos
Speaker 1: or the theme that you try to put into your content.
Speaker 2: Going to answer that in two parts. So one thing
Speaker 2: mister Beast talks about whom I highly respect, everything that
Speaker 2: he's done in the world of YouTube and other platforms.
Speaker 2: He talks about, if you're going to start YouTube, do
Speaker 2: one hundred videos just to post, and then from their
Speaker 2: start tailoring back, looking at which ones did the best,
Speaker 2: and then from there try to figure out what did
Speaker 2: the best, why did the best, and then start dissecting
Speaker 2: and then putting a plan and moving forward. And a
Speaker 2: lot of just doing the one hundred videos too, is
Speaker 2: more the commitment of actually not only filming, but editing.
Speaker 2: There's a joke that everyone wants to be YouTuber until
Speaker 2: it comes to time to edit. But for me, I
Speaker 2: was very fortunate that the first video got an audience.
Speaker 2: The first video today that I ever produced has about
Speaker 2: half million views because it got shared online. Because I
Speaker 2: was first to market in the field that I was doing,
Speaker 2: specifically LS content in the female space in the male
Speaker 2: dominated industry, specifically with my two forty in the trying
Speaker 2: to rebuild that, and from there I would do simple
Speaker 2: things like I couldn't afford, Like I was living paycheck
Speaker 2: to paycheck, I couldn't afford things. My friend would let
Speaker 2: me install coil overs on his car that he bought
Speaker 2: for the video, and I would be working on friends cars.
Speaker 2: I had one shop in the very beginning allow me
Speaker 2: to have a small part in the garage in exchange
Speaker 2: for promotion and just helping them with marketing around the shop,
Speaker 2: and I was able to work in my car and
Speaker 2: get some used parts to be able to do builds.
Speaker 2: But I think from the very beginning, which it's pretty
Speaker 2: crazy to watch my first episode just to see my mannerisms,
Speaker 2: how shy I was, how soft spoken I was, to
Speaker 2: where I am today, I think what I've seen continued
Speaker 2: success from is one doing stuff that I'm passionate about.
Speaker 2: I could not continue to do the YouTube grind for
Speaker 2: so long without just one thousand percent loving what I'm doing,
Speaker 2: so picking the builds that excite me, but also I
Speaker 2: like kind of pushing the boundaries of things and especially
Speaker 2: the boundaries of horsepower and finding what the limits of
Speaker 2: cars are. So I saw a lot of success with
Speaker 2: the with the eight sting ray platform from you know,
Speaker 2: at one point being the world's fastest disclosure I'm not today,
Speaker 2: and then also building one of the highest horsepower cars
Speaker 2: and all this being done and my small garage. I
Speaker 2: was basically living in the shop during that period of
Speaker 2: time because I was just so happy and so excited
Speaker 2: with everything I was doing. Unfortunately, I had a team
Speaker 2: behind me that as the company scaled, I've been able
Speaker 2: to hire my friends and individuals that are just as passionate.
Speaker 2: So I think for me, what's worked is doing things
Speaker 2: that I just you know, that keep me up in
Speaker 2: eight because I'm thinking about it because I'm just so
Speaker 2: excited about it.
Speaker 1: Did you have any pushback from like men out there going,
Speaker 1: you know, what is this girl, like you know, trying
Speaker 1: to do with cars?
Speaker 2: Definitely, Even still to this day, I've always struggled with
Speaker 2: men and sometimes even women challenging me like, oh, it
Speaker 2: can't be real, she's not doing it, she's reading a script,
Speaker 2: blah blah blah. But I just try not to focus
Speaker 2: on that. I really just focus on what I'm doing
Speaker 2: and the people I surround myself with, Like I don't
Speaker 2: think I'd be doing it today. If I didn't really
Speaker 2: love it, you know. Yeah, but even in the beginning
Speaker 2: my first couple YouTube videos, if you go back and
Speaker 2: look at the comments, I think it was, like really
Speaker 2: the third and the fourth had some like seriously terrible
Speaker 2: comments that made me contemplate even continuing YouTube. But I
Speaker 2: can I can only I can only hope that it
Speaker 2: helped to pave the way for other women. You know,
Speaker 2: I'm not saying that I was the trailblazer in that,
Speaker 2: but I can only hope that what I did helped
Speaker 2: to inspire anyone out there to create content and put
Speaker 2: themselves out there.
Speaker 1: Well, what is the parallels of, like you working on
Speaker 1: a car, because it's a meticulous, you know, passion right,
Speaker 1: and you have to have a level of OCD. Are
Speaker 1: there any like lessons you've learned building cars that you
Speaker 1: apply to your work as an actor.
Speaker 2: Aside from the give it one hundred and ten percent
Speaker 2: at all times, I think something that was actually probably
Speaker 2: more challenging for me to grasp for acting was trying
Speaker 2: to figure out a process because with cars it's very linear.
Speaker 2: You know, you have to if you're swapping something, remove xpart,
Speaker 2: replace it with Y part, and then you have Z
Speaker 2: where it's acting, it's not so linear like that. It's
Speaker 2: a little more modular of sometimes just you know, having
Speaker 2: the space to think and build out the character's past.
Speaker 2: And just because you spend thirty minutes doing this doesn't
Speaker 2: mean you're going to get thirty minutes work out of it.
Speaker 2: Sometimes you could spend for acting hours try to build
Speaker 2: out a character and get nowhere where some days you
Speaker 2: get really far with it. I have to remind myself
Speaker 2: to be patient with the process because it is a process.
Speaker 2: With cars, it's you know, if it doesn't work, I
Speaker 2: hit it with hammer and sometimes I can get the
Speaker 2: same result.
Speaker 1: Yeah, that makes sense.
Speaker 2: Do you mind me asking what your process is as
Speaker 2: an actor?
Speaker 1: One thing that I love to do is to create
Speaker 1: a backstory in history, right. And that's why I love
Speaker 1: old cars, is that I'll look at an old car
Speaker 1: and now fabricate like a history of like you know what,
Speaker 1: what kind of memories happened within that car? Right? And
Speaker 1: and I think, you know, when you attack a character,
Speaker 1: you have to create like a bible of the character's DNA.
Speaker 1: If you play like a character in Star Wars and
Speaker 1: none of it's on screen, like your backstory, you still
Speaker 1: have to create it like where was he born? What
Speaker 1: does he eat?
Speaker 2: Like? What was his Do you write all that down
Speaker 2: or do you keep it in your thoughts?
Speaker 1: I do? Yeah, yeah, I create like a bible, and
Speaker 1: you know, it's like a journal. And I don't know
Speaker 1: if you read that book Artist's Way, you know, like
Speaker 1: every actor.
Speaker 2: That's part of the curriculum.
Speaker 1: It's a good it's a good for for the you know,
Speaker 1: for artists or anybody. It's a good book to read it,
Speaker 1: and you know, you put your thoughts in it. But
Speaker 1: then I walk around and I talk to myself, you know,
Speaker 1: and I figure out like how this guy walks, like,
Speaker 1: you know, was he bullied? Was he the bully? Like
Speaker 1: you know, what's his favorite food? If he does eat
Speaker 1: or not?
Speaker 2: You know, do you memorize things very easily.
Speaker 1: In terms of like lines and stuff like that.
Speaker 2: Or do you very don't memorize them because you don't
Speaker 2: want to get them stuck in your head? A certain way.
Speaker 1: Depends on the kind of lines. If it's exposition, it's
Speaker 1: very difficult for me. Right, Like I played in an
Speaker 1: attorney and it's like you know, like legal jargon. It's
Speaker 1: like super difficult. But lines that have an emotional route
Speaker 1: to it. Yeah, they are very easy for me.
Speaker 2: Yeah. I feel like once you have that clear intention
Speaker 2: and objective and then if you can relate to the
Speaker 2: character you found that grounding, that's when it becomes easier
Speaker 2: to memorize. I think that was something I started doing
Speaker 2: the very very beginning of I had to memorize everything
Speaker 2: before I worked on the character. And now I'm like, no, no, no,
Speaker 2: I was doing that backwards. I got to build out
Speaker 2: the history like memorizations almost the very last thing.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I agree. I mean, and also, you know if
Speaker 1: when you start working with you know, seasoned actors, you know,
Speaker 1: like you think like there's going to be this linear
Speaker 1: process right when you come to set, right like everyone's
Speaker 1: going to have their lines like memorized, and the you know,
Speaker 1: the director is going to know exactly what's gonna what
Speaker 1: SHOT's going to be going on, and how they're going
Speaker 1: to approach, you know, which lenses they're going to use.
Speaker 1: But my favorite process is when you show up and
Speaker 1: you know they have a general there's a lot of preparation,
Speaker 1: there's been pre production, but they let the artists and
Speaker 1: the actors and everybody collaborate and go, let's feel. Let's
Speaker 1: feel like what's going on, Let's hear the words. And
Speaker 1: instead of telling you you're going to stand there, this
Speaker 1: is your mark, it's like where would the characters make
Speaker 1: his entrance and where would he sit? And how would
Speaker 1: you feel? And and when you get to work with
Speaker 1: you know, really seasoned actors that you know, carry that merit,
Speaker 1: that influence, it's it's it's amazing. You know, it's like
Speaker 1: you have the general sheet music and then you come
Speaker 1: together and you play and you create.
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's a perfect way to describe it. Yeah, that
Speaker 2: was all that was so cool about Out Grand Turismo.
Speaker 2: With the director that I had the opportunity to work with,
Speaker 2: Neil Blancamp. He was very improv friendly and that was
Speaker 2: something that I wasn't used to. But I actually at
Speaker 2: first I was intimidated as an actor here improv but
Speaker 2: then I grew to love it because it really allowed
Speaker 2: us to be free and open and just work with
Speaker 2: the other actors. And it was it really opened my
Speaker 2: eyes to this different world of not being so heavy
Speaker 2: on the text.
Speaker 1: The hardest part for me in my career has been
Speaker 1: having to convince the creative or the sometimes he's a director.
Speaker 1: Sometimes it's the producers, right, the people that are in
Speaker 1: power that I'm a three dimensional human being. You know,
Speaker 1: you and I we have a different entry point. You know,
Speaker 1: you're pretty white girl that comes in, big eyes, blue eyes, right,
Speaker 1: You're very American, right, And I come in even though
Speaker 1: I'm from Georgia and I'm American as apple pie. They
Speaker 1: look at me and they're like, why why are you here?
Speaker 1: You know, they need to explain that they need to go.
Speaker 2: Well, do you still feel like that today or.
Speaker 1: Is that more? I mean, I mean, I think it's changing.
Speaker 1: You know, it's like it's wonderful that these conversations are
Speaker 1: happening of inclusiveness. But you know, I've been doing this
Speaker 1: three decades and you know, you know the whole point
Speaker 1: of this podcast is to be transparent and have like
Speaker 1: real hard conversations. Is you know, I don't there's no
Speaker 1: opportunities for me as an actor. You know, That's why
Speaker 1: I'm I'm going behind the camera, you know, because I
Speaker 1: feel like my face doesn't affect, you know, decision making
Speaker 1: in Hollywood when you're a director. You know, I'm grateful
Speaker 1: for many of the roles and opportunities I've gotten but
Speaker 1: you know, I want to have the opportunity to dive
Speaker 1: into a role that merits an oscar, you know, but
Speaker 1: I feel like it's so far away, you know what
Speaker 1: I mean. You're like, you know, in success, like even
Speaker 1: with the Fast and Ferience franchise, a lot of times
Speaker 1: I don't feel like it helps me because they're like, yeah,
Speaker 1: he's the Asian dude that you know, he's a he's
Speaker 1: a stunt driver. And I'm like, I'm not, like, you know,
Speaker 1: I'm not a stunt driver. Like I'm an actor. You know,
Speaker 1: I've done. My career started with you know, independent films
Speaker 1: that went to Sun Dance, you know, but and and
Speaker 1: with directors like I've had to you know, answer certain questions.
Speaker 1: It's like, you know, like you know, they asked me
Speaker 1: like what martial arts do you know? And I go,
Speaker 1: why does it have anything to do with the decisions
Speaker 1: of where my character goes within this? And it's like, well,
Speaker 1: I don't know where to put you. And I'm like
Speaker 1: what does that mean. It's like, well, because you're Asian,
Speaker 1: and I'm like what. And then within like I did
Speaker 1: a TV show and it's like every time I showed up,
Speaker 1: if I had anything to say. It was, you know,
Speaker 1: like the character went to Chinatown, right, and I'm like hmmm.
Speaker 1: And I used to really really like eat me up,
Speaker 1: and you know, like I used to get super down
Speaker 1: and like you know, and then that would turn into
Speaker 1: like just you know, like anger. And I realized anger
Speaker 1: doesn't serve because it shuts everybody down. And you got
Speaker 1: to you know, understand the rules and then you got
Speaker 1: to you got to win that game, and then you've
Speaker 1: got to be in that position where you can make change. Right.
Speaker 1: And also we're in America too. You know, there's like
Speaker 1: five percent of Asian people in America, so you know
Speaker 1: there's a demographic that show business has to serve. So
Speaker 1: you know, I understand that, but you know, I envy
Speaker 1: when I hear things like you know that you've never
Speaker 1: had a bad experience because you're treated like a human
Speaker 1: being when you're invited to set, and a lot of times,
Speaker 1: especially when I started my career, like I was not
Speaker 1: I'm not treated like an equal, you know, and even
Speaker 1: to this day, you know, it's.
Speaker 2: Just to communicate. Its difficult with directors on set. Obviously,
Speaker 2: I've had terrible experiences with terrible humans in my life. Sure, sure,
Speaker 2: especially being a woman in the male dominated space. But
Speaker 2: obviously I can't relate or even begin to put myself
Speaker 2: in your shoes for what you're telling me. I'm you know,
Speaker 2: that's really heartbreaking to hear a lot of that. You say,
Speaker 2: the franchise you fear could have hurt you doing Oscar
Speaker 2: nominated films, but I believe that you could be cast
Speaker 2: in one tomorrow. Sincerely, I don't know if your future
Speaker 2: entails you continuing to be in front of the camera,
Speaker 2: if you just want to fully be behind it, or
Speaker 2: maybe there's a world where you're producing the stories you
Speaker 2: want to tell that you also star in. But I
Speaker 2: do see a world there for you.
Speaker 1: Well, thank you. I mean, that's why I'm still in
Speaker 1: the game, right. I'm still on the field trying to hustle,
Speaker 1: and I am optimistic, but I also don't want to
Speaker 1: wait for the phone calls to never happen. Yeah, and so,
Speaker 1: and then it's as I get older, it's less about
Speaker 1: like me, and it's about like how it's my contribution
Speaker 1: to the world and even this business, and you know,
Speaker 1: give other people opportunities, right, And it's not like I'm
Speaker 1: on a soapbox going Okay, I'm only going to cast
Speaker 1: like Asian American people. It's not that it's like give
Speaker 1: any everybody that is marginalized an opportunity and like have
Speaker 1: empathy when you come in. But then also understand the
Speaker 1: business of show business and there is an economy behind it.
Speaker 1: And the more successful the movie is, you know, the
Speaker 1: more opportunities you have to make change, right, And instead
Speaker 1: of complaining about it, it's like what can I do
Speaker 1: to like, you know, contribute, right, And I love storytelling,
Speaker 1: I love collaboration. I love being on set. Like every
Speaker 1: moment I'm on set, like I'm so happy. And that's
Speaker 1: why it hurts, because you know, as an actor or
Speaker 1: the roles that I you know, get to be a
Speaker 1: part of, You're there temporarily. There's just a part of it,
Speaker 1: you know, like real quick, you're like an appetizer and
Speaker 1: then you know you're you're You're never the main course, right.
Speaker 1: So I like to be the first one and the
Speaker 1: last one on SAD and I like to talk to everybody.
Speaker 1: I like the whole process, from pre production to production
Speaker 1: to post production. So I'm okay not being in front
Speaker 1: of the camera. It doesn't have to be about me.
Speaker 1: And any actor that says like I don't care about fame.
Speaker 1: It's like when you start out, like you know, it
Speaker 1: is part of the allure, you know, and I don't
Speaker 1: think I need that anymore. And I love like you know,
Speaker 1: I directed a feature during COVID feature film, my first one,
Speaker 1: and it's just an amazing feeling to be part of
Speaker 1: the process of making a film and then also seeing
Speaker 1: other people's dreams come true and being a part of
Speaker 1: that well also.
Speaker 2: To create something from beginning to end right.
Speaker 1: Yeah, just like a car.
Speaker 2: Yeah, like a car.
Speaker 1: Yeah, just like a car. And you know, like a car.
Speaker 1: I've realized, like you can't do everything by yourself, and
Speaker 1: there's always something that you can learn. And if you
Speaker 1: keep your mind open, you know, there's a wealth of
Speaker 1: community out there. And if you have this like empathy
Speaker 1: and respect for other people, this willingness to learn. It's
Speaker 1: amazing the community within the car culture. And I think
Speaker 1: that's why I've always used the car culture as a
Speaker 1: well of community. Like you know, it allowed me to
Speaker 1: go have direct access to individuals that aside from Hollywood,
Speaker 1: like I would just be able to look up to
Speaker 1: as fathers, as friends, you know, as masters of their craft,
Speaker 1: and the world doesn't know them, like, you know, they
Speaker 1: don't have a TikTok or YouTube. They just like dudes
Speaker 1: in a little garage somewhere, you.
Speaker 2: Know, can't smoking cigarettes, working on.
Speaker 1: The car, eating tacos, right, But then you hang out
Speaker 1: with them and they're real life superheroes. You know. They're
Speaker 1: like they're the father that I always wanted, you know,
Speaker 1: And you know, I think that's why I love the
Speaker 1: car community so much. Yeah, yeah, Do you think the
Speaker 1: kids today are wrenching like they used to? Or is
Speaker 1: it it could be you know, all the old timers
Speaker 1: saying they're not kids, don't even know how to drive
Speaker 1: manual anymore. But then you go to these car meets
Speaker 1: and you go to like you know, like Sema or
Speaker 1: tokyotis on. It's like a lot of young folks out there.
Speaker 2: I think because we live in the city, we're gonna
Speaker 2: see it a different way where sure, more kids are
Speaker 2: taking uber and there's a lot of quote unquote car pollution,
Speaker 2: so a lot of people don't want to drive as much.
Speaker 2: But if you go outside of the city, I feel
Speaker 2: like there's just as many kids who are just as
Speaker 2: passionate about wrenching on cars and wanting to customize it
Speaker 2: to make it their own, to kind of, you know,
Speaker 2: tell their own unique story with it and personalize it.
Speaker 2: But I also don't think things like street takeovers are
Speaker 2: helping the forward progression of the automotive industry and things
Speaker 2: like that. But I do feel like there is still
Speaker 2: a large group of kids who are interested in cars.
Speaker 2: It just might not be what it was twenty years ago.
Speaker 2: It's a different way.
Speaker 1: I mean, is it growing, is it doing these I.
Speaker 2: Don't I don't know if it's growing. I see a
Speaker 2: lot of racetracks starting to close because they can't keep
Speaker 2: the business. And you know, I guess if you really
Speaker 2: look at it, how much wrenching does an evy car
Speaker 2: really need unless you're changing the brakes and whatnot. I
Speaker 2: don't know. Maybe I just am a pretty optimistic person
Speaker 2: or I forced myself to be, but I do believe
Speaker 2: that there are still a lot of kids growing up
Speaker 2: who are passionate about cars, who want to wrench. Is
Speaker 2: it as much today as it was back then? I
Speaker 2: don't know.
Speaker 1: That's the catch twenty two with these street takeovers is
Speaker 1: that the dudes that are doing it are wrenching on
Speaker 1: their cars. What's the thing with these street takeovers? Like
Speaker 1: why why are these kids like into it?
Speaker 2: I don't know.
Speaker 1: Maybe I'm just too old.
Speaker 2: That I've never been to one, so I couldn't tell
Speaker 2: you what the hype is. I just see these horrible
Speaker 2: videos online of kids doing donuts and intersections and some
Speaker 2: bystander getting hurt from being there.
Speaker 1: Well, it seems like they like that getting hurt. It's
Speaker 1: like a badge of honor, or, like getting swipe, like
Speaker 1: like you know those videos like these kids being flipped
Speaker 1: upside down.
Speaker 2: The only thing that helme ever said, the only thing
Speaker 2: I try to think of is like, okay, so you know,
Speaker 2: back in the nineties when people were drag racing, shutting
Speaker 2: down roads in the valley or something like that to
Speaker 2: go drag racing, and the cops would come and they
Speaker 2: everyone would scatter, and you're placing bets on who's going
Speaker 2: to win. Like that was kind of frowned upon back
Speaker 2: then too, you know, but it didn't seem as reckless
Speaker 2: as what's happening today. So I don't know, is that
Speaker 2: just my age coming in and looking at the generation
Speaker 2: like all these kids are doing this when maybe we
Speaker 2: were doing the same things at a different point in
Speaker 2: our lives, but it was just different because it was
Speaker 2: drag racing firsus donuts. I don't know. It's with the.
Speaker 1: Drag racing, there's a point like it's like, you know,
Speaker 1: it's like who's fastest, Who's biggest, Who is the biggest, fastest,
Speaker 1: most powerful? Right, and then you bet you're like I
Speaker 1: win and I beat you man, I get your pink
Speaker 1: slip or I make the money.
Speaker 2: Right, it's all clout right, I'm I would think, so
Speaker 2: who can do the craziest donut or smoke the most
Speaker 2: tire and then run from place afterwards? I'm speaking like
Speaker 2: I like I know this. I don't really. I've looked
Speaker 2: into trying to create a film, trying not to glorify
Speaker 2: it as much. It appears that it has more to
Speaker 2: do with social media following and doing crazy shit with
Speaker 2: your car.
Speaker 1: But so what, like where does it? I mean, going
Speaker 1: fast is one thing. It's like like I make clicks,
Speaker 1: you get because you beat so and so, or you
Speaker 1: went you went two hundred miles an hour, Like that
Speaker 1: makes sense, But then the most smoke then then.
Speaker 2: Or the most views on a video.
Speaker 1: And then what clout.
Speaker 2: I don't know. Cloud's a hell of a drug.
Speaker 1: Yeah, because you got the most smoke on your car
Speaker 1: kids points. How do you continue that? You just do go?
Speaker 1: I don't know, Like I'm not condoning it, but I
Speaker 1: would like to understand the psychology behind it. Yeah, Like
Speaker 1: why do people get off on this because they look
Speaker 1: like they're having a blast. Yeah right right, and I at.
Speaker 2: Least from the videos that I've seen online.
Speaker 1: Yeah, even the dudes that getting like swiped by the
Speaker 1: car as they get up and they're like giving each
Speaker 1: other all was so cool. It was the best, like
Speaker 1: broken leg.
Speaker 2: I don't understand it.
Speaker 1: Well, maybe we're just getting older, you too, So where
Speaker 1: can people find you?
Speaker 2: YouTube, Instagram, TikTok. If you just search my name Amelia Hartford,
Speaker 2: it's spelled E M E L I A. It'll try
Speaker 2: to auto correct you. That's where you can find me.
Speaker 1: All right, Well I'm excited.
Speaker 2: I know me too. Thank you so much for.
Speaker 1: Having me of course, thanks for being here. Yeah, this
Speaker 1: was great, awesome,