1 00:00:00,720 --> 00:00:03,560 Speaker 1: You are listening to the Dan Patrick Show on Fox 2 00:00:03,600 --> 00:00:05,280 Speaker 1: Sports Radio Hour two. 3 00:00:05,320 --> 00:00:07,320 Speaker 2: On this Thursday, we'll talk to the Hall of Famer 4 00:00:07,400 --> 00:00:10,400 Speaker 2: Kurt Warner, who'll get us ready for the Cowboys Lions 5 00:00:10,440 --> 00:00:13,800 Speaker 2: coming up tonight. We talked about this prior to the 6 00:00:13,880 --> 00:00:17,599 Speaker 2: game on Thanksgiving and I said the Chiefs Cowboys would 7 00:00:17,640 --> 00:00:21,720 Speaker 2: be the highest rated game of all time regular season 8 00:00:22,239 --> 00:00:24,640 Speaker 2: and that's what it turned out to be. Larger than 9 00:00:24,680 --> 00:00:26,079 Speaker 2: I thought it was going to be. It was over 10 00:00:26,239 --> 00:00:30,720 Speaker 2: fifty million watching the Cowboys and the Lions. And then 11 00:00:30,960 --> 00:00:34,199 Speaker 2: turns out that the Packers game, or the Cowboys and 12 00:00:34,240 --> 00:00:38,360 Speaker 2: the Chiefs, the Packers and the Lions second highest rated 13 00:00:38,920 --> 00:00:43,200 Speaker 2: regular season game of all time. One in five years 14 00:00:43,240 --> 00:00:46,080 Speaker 2: ago that people were saying, you know, this could be 15 00:00:46,120 --> 00:00:50,040 Speaker 2: the death of the NFL and all the causes they 16 00:00:50,080 --> 00:00:55,760 Speaker 2: stood for and the saturation over saturation and fantasy and gambling, 17 00:00:55,840 --> 00:00:59,760 Speaker 2: and the NFL is expanding, you know now they're talking 18 00:00:59,760 --> 00:01:02,440 Speaker 2: about maybe two games on Black Friday. Now they're talking 19 00:01:02,440 --> 00:01:06,320 Speaker 2: about more games internationally. They're not slowing down, not at all. 20 00:01:06,640 --> 00:01:08,840 Speaker 2: Good morning. If you're watching on Peacock, thank you for 21 00:01:08,920 --> 00:01:12,440 Speaker 2: downloading the app, and we'll talk to Brian Windhorse he'll 22 00:01:12,520 --> 00:01:14,200 Speaker 2: join us in an hour from now. There was a 23 00:01:14,240 --> 00:01:19,920 Speaker 2: report yesterday that is kind of piggybacking what Brian Winhors 24 00:01:19,959 --> 00:01:23,000 Speaker 2: reported at the beginning of the year. The season with 25 00:01:23,080 --> 00:01:26,400 Speaker 2: the NBA, Jannis had asked for a trade to the Knicks. 26 00:01:26,520 --> 00:01:30,160 Speaker 2: He wanted to go there, and it felt like maybe 27 00:01:30,200 --> 00:01:33,240 Speaker 2: Milwaukee was saying, all right, just you know, stay put, 28 00:01:33,280 --> 00:01:35,960 Speaker 2: We're going to try to surround you with a good team. 29 00:01:36,240 --> 00:01:40,800 Speaker 2: They're not a good team. And now it's surfaced again 30 00:01:40,880 --> 00:01:43,880 Speaker 2: that maybe you know, Jannis is gonna want out, and 31 00:01:43,920 --> 00:01:46,800 Speaker 2: what can you get for him. There'll be a lot 32 00:01:46,800 --> 00:01:49,880 Speaker 2: of teams in line. But what do you I mean? 33 00:01:50,000 --> 00:01:52,280 Speaker 2: Is it five first round draft picks? I mean even then, 34 00:01:52,520 --> 00:01:56,440 Speaker 2: first round draft picks seem to be meaningless. It feels like, ah, yeah, 35 00:01:56,480 --> 00:01:58,320 Speaker 2: we'll give you five. You want a six, We'll give 36 00:01:58,320 --> 00:02:01,560 Speaker 2: you a six. One. Well, they're on a second. If 37 00:02:01,600 --> 00:02:05,800 Speaker 2: you're Milwaukee, can you rebuild? Is that what the goal 38 00:02:05,960 --> 00:02:06,520 Speaker 2: is going to be? 39 00:02:06,640 --> 00:02:06,720 Speaker 3: That? 40 00:02:06,880 --> 00:02:10,120 Speaker 2: Okay, we are resigned to the fact that we're not 41 00:02:10,200 --> 00:02:13,360 Speaker 2: a good team. We tried. We tried to get Dame Lindllard, 42 00:02:13,400 --> 00:02:16,320 Speaker 2: tried to make it work. It didn't work, and we 43 00:02:16,440 --> 00:02:19,840 Speaker 2: probably have to detonate here, but we'll talk to Wendy 44 00:02:19,880 --> 00:02:22,880 Speaker 2: about that coming up eight seven seven three DP Show 45 00:02:22,880 --> 00:02:26,800 Speaker 2: email address, DPA Danpatrick dot com, Twitter handle at dp show. 46 00:02:27,160 --> 00:02:29,760 Speaker 2: Poll question for hour two is gonna be what Seaton? 47 00:02:30,880 --> 00:02:32,440 Speaker 4: You know, I took a couple of liberties and I 48 00:02:32,560 --> 00:02:35,040 Speaker 4: just threw a bunch of them up there, look at you. 49 00:02:35,280 --> 00:02:38,160 Speaker 2: Yeah. Yeah, that's called going rogue. 50 00:02:38,360 --> 00:02:42,480 Speaker 4: Yeah yeah, Well, I just thought, you know, being you know, 51 00:02:43,040 --> 00:02:45,200 Speaker 4: what's that word when you're just sort of a proactive 52 00:02:45,480 --> 00:02:50,799 Speaker 4: industrial is being proactive? Okay, the Milwaukee Bucks should keep 53 00:02:50,800 --> 00:02:51,960 Speaker 4: you honest or trade them? 54 00:02:52,040 --> 00:02:52,440 Speaker 2: Right now? 55 00:02:52,520 --> 00:02:55,080 Speaker 4: Seventy four percent say trade them the best fit for you, honest. 56 00:02:55,160 --> 00:03:00,320 Speaker 4: New York, San Antonio, Oklahoma City or Houston have any 57 00:03:00,320 --> 00:03:01,680 Speaker 4: thoughts on that. I know we've been kind of kicking 58 00:03:01,680 --> 00:03:06,520 Speaker 4: it around all morning, But New York, San Antonio, Oklahoma City, Houston. 59 00:03:07,720 --> 00:03:11,000 Speaker 2: Oklahoma City doesn't need him to win another title. No, 60 00:03:11,280 --> 00:03:14,240 Speaker 2: but it'd be a great luxury to have him and 61 00:03:14,320 --> 00:03:17,040 Speaker 2: give up these draft picks. There's only so many roster 62 00:03:17,160 --> 00:03:20,720 Speaker 2: spots you have, and they have three first round picks 63 00:03:20,800 --> 00:03:25,960 Speaker 2: right now that would be in the top fifteen. Boy, 64 00:03:26,000 --> 00:03:28,480 Speaker 2: that'd be fascinating if they said, yeah, you know, I'm 65 00:03:28,480 --> 00:03:31,960 Speaker 2: gonna pair him with Chet and SGA. But you know 66 00:03:32,040 --> 00:03:35,560 Speaker 2: San Antonio is another destination of putting Yannis there with 67 00:03:35,720 --> 00:03:39,960 Speaker 2: Victor Wembenyama Houston. They got a lot of young talent 68 00:03:40,040 --> 00:03:45,000 Speaker 2: there the Knicks. That's the place because the Knicks have 69 00:03:45,040 --> 00:03:49,600 Speaker 2: a chance to win a championship. Now, you're not giving 70 00:03:49,680 --> 00:03:54,680 Speaker 2: up Brunson. He's untouchable. What what are you yelling at? 71 00:03:55,000 --> 00:03:55,120 Speaker 3: Like? 72 00:03:55,320 --> 00:03:57,440 Speaker 5: Would I look at that from the buck side. If 73 00:03:57,480 --> 00:03:59,240 Speaker 5: I'm going to trade in the Knicks, I have to 74 00:03:59,320 --> 00:04:02,160 Speaker 5: have Brunson as the starting point or else I'm getting 75 00:04:02,160 --> 00:04:04,320 Speaker 5: a bunch of Knicks draft picks. That is the twenty 76 00:04:04,400 --> 00:04:06,840 Speaker 5: seventh pick of the draft for the next four years. 77 00:04:06,960 --> 00:04:08,960 Speaker 2: You might as well just give him away. You're not 78 00:04:09,080 --> 00:04:09,920 Speaker 2: getting Brunson. 79 00:04:10,320 --> 00:04:12,920 Speaker 5: Then you can't even have the conversation with the Knicks. 80 00:04:13,840 --> 00:04:16,120 Speaker 5: I mean five first round draft picks that are gonna 81 00:04:16,120 --> 00:04:18,799 Speaker 5: be joannest is gonna make them better. 82 00:04:19,480 --> 00:04:21,920 Speaker 2: Well, maybe you get some players, but you you can't. 83 00:04:22,360 --> 00:04:24,560 Speaker 2: You're not. There's no way I give up Jalen Brunson 84 00:04:24,800 --> 00:04:27,039 Speaker 2: like he can't be part of the deal. Yes see. 85 00:04:27,160 --> 00:04:28,839 Speaker 4: Yeah, and the Knicks are gonna have trouble too because 86 00:04:28,839 --> 00:04:30,719 Speaker 4: you're gonna start getting into all this crap with you know, 87 00:04:30,800 --> 00:04:33,919 Speaker 4: the second apron and you gotta do whatever salary cap like, 88 00:04:33,920 --> 00:04:36,520 Speaker 4: oh god, forget it, just send me to Houston. 89 00:04:37,560 --> 00:04:40,040 Speaker 6: Yes, Todd, I agree with mc marvin said earlier. Get 90 00:04:40,080 --> 00:04:42,320 Speaker 6: him more, not especially if they're gonna give up several pieces. 91 00:04:42,400 --> 00:04:44,880 Speaker 6: The Knicks aren't winning a title anytime soon. I'm very 92 00:04:44,880 --> 00:04:47,479 Speaker 6: intrigued by a Wemby and Greek freak playing together. 93 00:04:47,560 --> 00:04:49,000 Speaker 5: That would be fantastic. 94 00:04:50,080 --> 00:04:52,280 Speaker 2: Yeah, but I don't know how that works with spacing 95 00:04:52,320 --> 00:04:55,200 Speaker 2: on the floor and two guys seven footers out there, 96 00:04:55,279 --> 00:04:59,040 Speaker 2: and like, I don't know. I mean, I love the possibility. 97 00:04:59,080 --> 00:05:02,200 Speaker 2: But if I'm the new whatever, this guy actually wants 98 00:05:02,240 --> 00:05:05,360 Speaker 2: to play for you, I want to get him. And 99 00:05:05,400 --> 00:05:07,960 Speaker 2: it feels like he's going to come in and you know, 100 00:05:08,160 --> 00:05:11,120 Speaker 2: maybe him being there that free agents would want to 101 00:05:11,120 --> 00:05:13,440 Speaker 2: go play there. I wouldn't look at this as a 102 00:05:13,440 --> 00:05:15,640 Speaker 2: one year situation. I'd look at this as a four 103 00:05:15,720 --> 00:05:19,320 Speaker 2: or five year, you know deal. And but we'll talk 104 00:05:19,360 --> 00:05:21,920 Speaker 2: to Windhors this is what he does, and we'll chat 105 00:05:21,920 --> 00:05:25,560 Speaker 2: with him coming up the Chris Paul parting of ways 106 00:05:25,839 --> 00:05:29,080 Speaker 2: with the Clippers in Atlanta, and then we started to 107 00:05:29,160 --> 00:05:31,200 Speaker 2: find I said, there has to be something more to it. 108 00:05:31,240 --> 00:05:35,560 Speaker 2: Turns out Tylu and Chris Paul weren't talking. Chris Paul's 109 00:05:35,600 --> 00:05:39,560 Speaker 2: not for everybody he's stayed around. He's kind of a 110 00:05:40,839 --> 00:05:43,800 Speaker 2: lesser version of Isaiah Thomas, you know, without the titles. 111 00:05:44,040 --> 00:05:46,719 Speaker 2: But that guy who's a tough guy, uh, you know, 112 00:05:46,839 --> 00:05:51,320 Speaker 2: considered a leader, but he can he can agitate you. 113 00:05:52,360 --> 00:05:55,560 Speaker 2: And if you're not that good anymore, then all of 114 00:05:55,600 --> 00:05:58,400 Speaker 2: a sudden you don't put up with somebody. That's probably 115 00:05:58,440 --> 00:06:02,400 Speaker 2: the case for Tylu and the clips. And they just 116 00:06:03,320 --> 00:06:06,640 Speaker 2: they dropped him off at a rest stop and then 117 00:06:06,680 --> 00:06:12,880 Speaker 2: they kept going official. I think that's what are they going? 118 00:06:13,000 --> 00:06:15,640 Speaker 2: A wah wah. I think they have in Atlanta, they 119 00:06:15,680 --> 00:06:20,360 Speaker 2: have wah wahs. I just thought they would allow him 120 00:06:20,360 --> 00:06:22,600 Speaker 2: to at least come back and save a little bit 121 00:06:22,720 --> 00:06:27,400 Speaker 2: dignity and and and maybe announced that, hey, Chris Paul 122 00:06:27,520 --> 00:06:32,159 Speaker 2: knight and you say goodbye to Chris Paul. Here's ty 123 00:06:32,279 --> 00:06:34,840 Speaker 2: Lou on kicking Chris Paul to the curve. 124 00:06:36,200 --> 00:06:39,680 Speaker 7: I don't like it, you know, it just didn't work 125 00:06:39,680 --> 00:06:42,000 Speaker 7: out like we thought it would, you know. And I 126 00:06:42,040 --> 00:06:44,039 Speaker 7: said I don't like it for CP, you know, but 127 00:06:44,920 --> 00:06:47,360 Speaker 7: just went a good fit. You know, we understood that. 128 00:06:47,480 --> 00:06:50,599 Speaker 7: And so, like I said, it was an organization. You know, 129 00:06:52,279 --> 00:06:55,960 Speaker 7: they made the choice, you know, and so moving forward, 130 00:06:56,360 --> 00:06:58,320 Speaker 7: you know, we got to see what we do. So 131 00:06:58,920 --> 00:07:02,280 Speaker 7: we'll see. 132 00:07:01,360 --> 00:07:05,120 Speaker 2: Coach, why wasn't it a good fit? That's what I 133 00:07:05,160 --> 00:07:08,800 Speaker 2: would want to know. Why weren't you two talking to 134 00:07:08,839 --> 00:07:11,720 Speaker 2: each other? Like there's questions here if you want to 135 00:07:11,720 --> 00:07:13,800 Speaker 2: ask the questions. I don't know if they were asked, 136 00:07:13,840 --> 00:07:17,360 Speaker 2: but those would be. But once again, he shouldn't be, 137 00:07:17,760 --> 00:07:20,640 Speaker 2: you know, the escapegoat here. They're not a good team. 138 00:07:20,840 --> 00:07:23,600 Speaker 2: When your best player doesn't play, it's hard to be 139 00:07:23,640 --> 00:07:27,960 Speaker 2: a really good team. James Harden's a curiosity and you know, 140 00:07:28,080 --> 00:07:31,080 Speaker 2: a fantastic player at times. But other than that, he 141 00:07:31,200 --> 00:07:36,240 Speaker 2: got nice arena. He got nice arena. Maybe you can 142 00:07:36,240 --> 00:07:37,840 Speaker 2: get a job. You don't even have to show up 143 00:07:37,840 --> 00:07:43,320 Speaker 2: for work, you know. So Clippers are a mess. That's 144 00:07:43,360 --> 00:07:46,800 Speaker 2: a mess, yes, Martin, and. 145 00:07:46,760 --> 00:07:48,920 Speaker 8: I feel like your two best players in Kawhi and Harden, 146 00:07:48,960 --> 00:07:51,320 Speaker 8: are two guys that you know what, I play basketball, 147 00:07:51,400 --> 00:07:54,040 Speaker 8: I get my money, I go home. Chris Paul really 148 00:07:54,040 --> 00:07:56,480 Speaker 8: felt like a leader that really wanted to win, but 149 00:07:56,600 --> 00:07:58,600 Speaker 8: unfortunately for him, he's the same age as me. 150 00:07:59,800 --> 00:08:00,840 Speaker 2: Yeah, it's hard to listen to. 151 00:08:00,840 --> 00:08:03,160 Speaker 8: A guy that's on year twenty one and he's not 152 00:08:03,280 --> 00:08:05,920 Speaker 8: first team All NBA Chris Paul anymore. And he's still 153 00:08:05,960 --> 00:08:09,000 Speaker 8: doing first team All NBA Chris Paul things. He's probably 154 00:08:09,040 --> 00:08:11,400 Speaker 8: yelling at guys like, oh, we might have put up 155 00:08:11,440 --> 00:08:14,200 Speaker 8: with this in twenty ten, and its twenty twenty five. 156 00:08:14,320 --> 00:08:15,440 Speaker 8: I can't number this anymore. 157 00:08:16,480 --> 00:08:19,040 Speaker 2: You contribute more to this show than Chris Paul does 158 00:08:19,080 --> 00:08:25,640 Speaker 2: to the Clippers, and we're having a better season, we're winners. 159 00:08:26,080 --> 00:08:26,520 Speaker 3: That's right. 160 00:08:26,600 --> 00:08:26,800 Speaker 2: Ball. 161 00:08:27,160 --> 00:08:29,480 Speaker 5: If Chris Paul plays for one more team as he 162 00:08:29,560 --> 00:08:31,680 Speaker 5: ends his career, that will be eight for his career. 163 00:08:32,200 --> 00:08:34,600 Speaker 5: Can you think of a first ballot Hall of Famer 164 00:08:35,200 --> 00:08:39,000 Speaker 5: that played with I know Durant's up there, but that's 165 00:08:39,040 --> 00:08:40,959 Speaker 5: a lot of teams for a first a guy who 166 00:08:40,960 --> 00:08:43,120 Speaker 5: appears to be a first ballot Hall of Famer, And 167 00:08:43,200 --> 00:08:44,840 Speaker 5: I think that dings your career. 168 00:08:47,400 --> 00:08:55,920 Speaker 2: Eight teams. Nobody comes to mind playing that many for 169 00:08:56,000 --> 00:08:57,400 Speaker 2: that many teams. Yes, Mark. 170 00:08:57,559 --> 00:08:59,719 Speaker 8: The closest to me as a first ballot Hall of 171 00:08:59,760 --> 00:09:02,640 Speaker 8: Fame is Shack that you played for six teams. 172 00:09:03,080 --> 00:09:07,360 Speaker 5: Yeah, I've got a few Holy God, these are good. 173 00:09:07,640 --> 00:09:10,679 Speaker 5: Now you gotta count Aba Moses Malone nine. But if 174 00:09:10,679 --> 00:09:14,320 Speaker 5: you remove that, Okay, who is a Hall of Famer? 175 00:09:14,559 --> 00:09:18,839 Speaker 5: I think I think he's going in this year based 176 00:09:18,840 --> 00:09:22,880 Speaker 5: on the math. First ballot guy who he played for eight. 177 00:09:22,679 --> 00:09:26,400 Speaker 2: Teams, first ballot, eight teams. 178 00:09:26,480 --> 00:09:28,440 Speaker 5: Yeah, and he retired in twenty twenty, so he's a 179 00:09:28,480 --> 00:09:34,520 Speaker 5: recent guy. Chauncey Billups seven teams. Oh, no way to 180 00:09:34,559 --> 00:09:35,120 Speaker 5: bring that back? 181 00:09:35,880 --> 00:09:40,120 Speaker 2: Yeah? Yes, mart is it Carmelo Nope? 182 00:09:43,720 --> 00:09:47,520 Speaker 5: This is it's probably Seaton's favorite basketball player modern. 183 00:09:47,240 --> 00:09:50,040 Speaker 2: Era, Ricky Henderson. 184 00:09:50,240 --> 00:09:57,400 Speaker 5: Yes, it's Bence Carter's Toronto, New Jersey, Dallas, Memphis, Atlanta, Orlando, Sacktown, Phoenix. 185 00:09:58,120 --> 00:10:03,160 Speaker 2: Okay, how lucky were they? Yeah? Those they're all winners 186 00:10:05,120 --> 00:10:07,800 Speaker 2: eight seven seven three DP show email address DP at 187 00:10:07,840 --> 00:10:10,480 Speaker 2: Danpatrick dot com, Twitter handle a TP show. All right, 188 00:10:10,520 --> 00:10:12,559 Speaker 2: I just got this sent to me. Here we go. 189 00:10:13,400 --> 00:10:19,400 Speaker 2: One of my sources, Penn State's painted themselves in a corner. 190 00:10:19,480 --> 00:10:24,280 Speaker 2: They have no clear options besides Brian Kelly or Brian 191 00:10:24,440 --> 00:10:30,440 Speaker 2: Dable types. I'm being told they probably will stay with 192 00:10:30,480 --> 00:10:34,640 Speaker 2: interim head coach Terry Smith and he'll stay there for 193 00:10:34,720 --> 00:10:39,439 Speaker 2: the upcoming season, and then Penn State will then go 194 00:10:39,520 --> 00:10:43,640 Speaker 2: in all in for the following season. So this is 195 00:10:43,760 --> 00:10:46,400 Speaker 2: a source who just sent that to me. That stay 196 00:10:46,480 --> 00:10:52,200 Speaker 2: with interim interim coach Terry Smith for remaining remains for 197 00:10:52,280 --> 00:10:54,800 Speaker 2: next year. At this point in the school prepares all 198 00:10:54,880 --> 00:10:58,600 Speaker 2: resources for the big hire next year. But Brian Kelly, 199 00:10:58,640 --> 00:11:02,120 Speaker 2: Brian Dable maybe as possibilities there at Penn State. 200 00:11:02,200 --> 00:11:04,920 Speaker 5: Yes, Paul, here's the name I haven't heard or seen reported, 201 00:11:05,160 --> 00:11:08,200 Speaker 5: Dan Mullen of UNLV, the guy coached in the SEC 202 00:11:08,360 --> 00:11:10,920 Speaker 5: for a long time. He went to UNV and there 203 00:11:10,920 --> 00:11:13,760 Speaker 5: ten and two. He's been there one year. I haven't 204 00:11:13,760 --> 00:11:15,920 Speaker 5: even seen his name rumored for that spot. And that's 205 00:11:16,280 --> 00:11:19,880 Speaker 5: if Dan Mullen wants to get back to the the biggies, 206 00:11:19,960 --> 00:11:22,520 Speaker 5: no offense you know of he's doing great. That can 207 00:11:22,559 --> 00:11:22,960 Speaker 5: be a name. 208 00:11:25,280 --> 00:11:30,360 Speaker 2: Yeah, SEC wise, okay, but Penn State. I don't see 209 00:11:30,360 --> 00:11:34,320 Speaker 2: that with Dan Mullen. But I didn't see Penn State 210 00:11:34,360 --> 00:11:37,400 Speaker 2: without a head coach for fifty three days too. You know, 211 00:11:37,880 --> 00:11:40,720 Speaker 2: I don't know how choosy you can be. The Only 212 00:11:40,760 --> 00:11:44,360 Speaker 2: place to get autograph calendars is tailgate Tailgate Moonshine, and 213 00:11:44,360 --> 00:11:48,760 Speaker 2: we got some orders there that with your tailgate Moonshine order, 214 00:11:48,920 --> 00:11:51,760 Speaker 2: you can get an autograph calendar. You order by December eighth, 215 00:11:51,760 --> 00:11:53,679 Speaker 2: you'll get it by Christmas. Stat of the Day is 216 00:11:53,679 --> 00:11:56,520 Speaker 2: always brought to you by Panini America, the official trading 217 00:11:56,559 --> 00:12:00,600 Speaker 2: cards of the Dan Patrick Show, Sam and Wyoming Morning, Sam. 218 00:12:00,640 --> 00:12:01,680 Speaker 2: What's on your mind today? 219 00:12:03,040 --> 00:12:06,000 Speaker 9: Yeah, good morning. Takes stick of my call five eight 220 00:12:06,080 --> 00:12:12,160 Speaker 9: and I'm broken one five. This one's right up Paula's alley. 221 00:12:13,200 --> 00:12:15,720 Speaker 9: I was wondering, you know, the evolution of college football. 222 00:12:16,000 --> 00:12:18,960 Speaker 9: If the you know, one double A teams are going 223 00:12:19,040 --> 00:12:22,439 Speaker 9: to be a farm system for the SBS football. 224 00:12:22,080 --> 00:12:26,400 Speaker 5: Teams a farm system. No, but Seet and I were 225 00:12:26,400 --> 00:12:29,440 Speaker 5: talking about this yesterday. If you redid college football, made 226 00:12:29,440 --> 00:12:32,600 Speaker 5: it sixty teams and the FCS was the relegation where 227 00:12:32,880 --> 00:12:35,160 Speaker 5: you win the FCS title, you automatically go up and 228 00:12:35,440 --> 00:12:38,720 Speaker 5: join the conference that's mostly regional to you, that could 229 00:12:38,720 --> 00:12:40,079 Speaker 5: be pretty juicy for college football. 230 00:12:41,120 --> 00:12:41,280 Speaker 3: Yeah. 231 00:12:41,320 --> 00:12:45,959 Speaker 2: I like relegation. I like that. I like you can 232 00:12:45,960 --> 00:12:49,480 Speaker 2: get promoted, you can actually move up. And uh, you know, 233 00:12:49,559 --> 00:12:52,280 Speaker 2: we see this with certainly with soccer, and the amount 234 00:12:52,280 --> 00:12:54,200 Speaker 2: of money that you're going to make is a whole 235 00:12:54,200 --> 00:12:58,280 Speaker 2: lot different. And uh, but but having something else to 236 00:12:58,400 --> 00:13:00,839 Speaker 2: keep an eye on, aside for these twelve teams that 237 00:13:00,840 --> 00:13:02,760 Speaker 2: are going to make the playoffs. Now you're going to 238 00:13:02,840 --> 00:13:06,320 Speaker 2: keep an eye on these championships that are going to 239 00:13:06,360 --> 00:13:10,880 Speaker 2: take place in the so called subdivision there. Let's see, 240 00:13:10,880 --> 00:13:14,480 Speaker 2: and thanks for the phone call. Let me see Keith 241 00:13:14,520 --> 00:13:16,320 Speaker 2: and Chico. Hi, Keith, what's on your mind? 242 00:13:18,040 --> 00:13:20,480 Speaker 10: Hey Dan, I just had a scenario I wanted to 243 00:13:20,480 --> 00:13:22,800 Speaker 10: throw at you guys. I think it'd be pretty cool 244 00:13:23,000 --> 00:13:26,920 Speaker 10: if the college football Playoff Committee was maybe televised. We 245 00:13:26,960 --> 00:13:29,200 Speaker 10: could maybe get an inside scoop of how these people 246 00:13:29,280 --> 00:13:32,720 Speaker 10: think and whether they're real football fans or knowledgeable fans. 247 00:13:32,920 --> 00:13:35,280 Speaker 10: They could televise it might be a pretty cool event 248 00:13:35,280 --> 00:13:38,000 Speaker 10: as compared to the reveal that they currently have. 249 00:13:38,920 --> 00:13:39,120 Speaker 3: Yeah. 250 00:13:39,160 --> 00:13:41,320 Speaker 2: I brought that up a couple of years ago. It said, 251 00:13:41,440 --> 00:13:44,360 Speaker 2: let the cameras go in there. I mean, what are 252 00:13:44,360 --> 00:13:47,840 Speaker 2: we hiding from unless you don't want somebody's name attached 253 00:13:47,840 --> 00:13:50,560 Speaker 2: to I don't believe in Notre Dame or I don't 254 00:13:50,559 --> 00:13:52,520 Speaker 2: believe in Miami, and then all of a sudden, you know, 255 00:13:52,600 --> 00:13:56,719 Speaker 2: that person becomes owstra sized. But just to give us 256 00:13:56,880 --> 00:13:59,000 Speaker 2: sort of that feeling of what it's like in there, 257 00:13:59,400 --> 00:14:02,160 Speaker 2: I thought it'd be great. Everything about sports now is 258 00:14:02,200 --> 00:14:05,800 Speaker 2: to bring you closer, closer, closer. You know, the sidelines, 259 00:14:05,880 --> 00:14:09,040 Speaker 2: we're gonna interview coaches, we're interviewing players during games. Now, 260 00:14:09,720 --> 00:14:12,560 Speaker 2: let us behind the curtain here with the college football Playoff. 261 00:14:13,520 --> 00:14:15,840 Speaker 2: At least let us see what it looks like, what 262 00:14:15,920 --> 00:14:19,600 Speaker 2: it feels like. What kind of food are you eating? Now? 263 00:14:19,840 --> 00:14:25,520 Speaker 2: Who sits where, who's loud, who's not? And maybe you 264 00:14:25,560 --> 00:14:28,400 Speaker 2: could give us just a little even with a selection 265 00:14:28,480 --> 00:14:30,600 Speaker 2: Sunday with the nc DOUBLEA. I mean, i'd love to 266 00:14:30,640 --> 00:14:34,000 Speaker 2: see it. See that to me doesn't feel like it's 267 00:14:34,040 --> 00:14:39,080 Speaker 2: as volatile. Now, Okay, you're the sixty ninth team. I'm sorry, 268 00:14:39,160 --> 00:14:41,440 Speaker 2: you're not gonna make it. And if they do argue 269 00:14:41,480 --> 00:14:43,320 Speaker 2: about that, it might be well, I don't think that 270 00:14:43,360 --> 00:14:45,760 Speaker 2: this team's the number one seed. I think there are two. Okay, 271 00:14:45,840 --> 00:14:47,960 Speaker 2: that's not the end of the world. I think that 272 00:14:47,960 --> 00:14:53,040 Speaker 2: would be fascinating to know who's arguing and what they're 273 00:14:53,160 --> 00:14:58,680 Speaker 2: arguing for. But you know, until the NCUBA realizes, hey, 274 00:14:58,680 --> 00:15:01,320 Speaker 2: we can make a lot of money on this, then 275 00:15:01,400 --> 00:15:04,640 Speaker 2: we're probably not gonna happen. Kurt Warner, Hall of Famer, 276 00:15:04,680 --> 00:15:07,800 Speaker 2: will join us. We have football. Coming up tonight, Dallas 277 00:15:07,880 --> 00:15:12,000 Speaker 2: is a three point underdog at Detroit. 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Check us out 291 00:15:51,800 --> 00:15:53,720 Speaker 11: on YouTube and subscribe. 292 00:15:55,000 --> 00:15:57,680 Speaker 2: Paulie mentioned Dan Mullen, who's done a really good job 293 00:15:57,720 --> 00:16:00,320 Speaker 2: first year at EONLV. What about him for Penn's date? 294 00:16:00,880 --> 00:16:03,840 Speaker 2: I said, I don't know, it just feels like SEC. 295 00:16:04,520 --> 00:16:08,960 Speaker 2: But he was born in Pennsylvania. He played college football 296 00:16:09,040 --> 00:16:13,120 Speaker 2: at a small school in Pennsylvania. Sure, I mean at 297 00:16:13,120 --> 00:16:17,200 Speaker 2: this stage, I guess everything's on the table there. Could 298 00:16:17,200 --> 00:16:20,280 Speaker 2: you see maybe Brian Dable coaching Penn State? What about 299 00:16:20,280 --> 00:16:23,920 Speaker 2: Brian Kelly coaching Penn State. Those were a couple of options, 300 00:16:23,920 --> 00:16:27,120 Speaker 2: but my source said they're probably staying with their interim 301 00:16:27,160 --> 00:16:31,000 Speaker 2: head coach this next season and then they'll put all 302 00:16:31,000 --> 00:16:33,520 Speaker 2: their resources in and try to go after somebody. 303 00:16:33,600 --> 00:16:36,320 Speaker 5: Yeah, PAULI yeah, like you said at this juncture, you know, 304 00:16:36,400 --> 00:16:38,720 Speaker 5: Dan Mullen was an offensive guru back in the day, 305 00:16:38,840 --> 00:16:41,240 Speaker 5: had some really good years and no's a system like 306 00:16:41,240 --> 00:16:43,560 Speaker 5: a guy like bringing Brian Daball. You kind of got 307 00:16:43,560 --> 00:16:44,360 Speaker 5: to start from scratch. 308 00:16:46,360 --> 00:16:49,040 Speaker 2: Well, he has coached in the NFL. He's an offensive 309 00:16:49,080 --> 00:16:53,160 Speaker 2: minded head coach. So, I mean, I don't know what 310 00:16:53,160 --> 00:16:55,040 Speaker 2: that jump is like. We always talk about the jump 311 00:16:55,080 --> 00:16:56,880 Speaker 2: from college to the pros. I don't know what it's 312 00:16:56,920 --> 00:17:01,560 Speaker 2: like to go pros back to college Las Vegas to 313 00:17:01,680 --> 00:17:02,360 Speaker 2: Happy Valley. 314 00:17:02,360 --> 00:17:03,000 Speaker 5: That's the difference. 315 00:17:03,720 --> 00:17:06,000 Speaker 2: Kurt Warner joining us the Hall of Famer. He'll be 316 00:17:06,080 --> 00:17:09,000 Speaker 2: on the call in the radio booth for Westwood One 317 00:17:09,359 --> 00:17:11,840 Speaker 2: Monday Night the Eagles and the Chargers at so Far 318 00:17:12,000 --> 00:17:14,600 Speaker 2: They kick off at eight fifteen Eastern. You can also 319 00:17:14,640 --> 00:17:18,719 Speaker 2: see them on NFL Game Day morning. Before I talk NFL, 320 00:17:18,800 --> 00:17:22,640 Speaker 2: let me ask you about the whole situation with your son. EJ. 321 00:17:23,480 --> 00:17:25,639 Speaker 2: Played at a couple of colleges. I believe he's a 322 00:17:25,800 --> 00:17:28,640 Speaker 2: right now at Fresno State. But you know, you got NIL, 323 00:17:28,720 --> 00:17:31,840 Speaker 2: you got transfer portal, you know all the recruitment. What 324 00:17:31,920 --> 00:17:34,720 Speaker 2: do you make of the college football situation right now? 325 00:17:36,760 --> 00:17:36,960 Speaker 11: You know? 326 00:17:37,280 --> 00:17:40,400 Speaker 12: I think when you look at it, there's obviously definitely 327 00:17:40,440 --> 00:17:43,960 Speaker 12: issues there, whether you're talking about the calendar, which everybody's 328 00:17:44,000 --> 00:17:46,200 Speaker 12: been talking about with this whole different thing, when you're 329 00:17:46,240 --> 00:17:50,439 Speaker 12: talking about nil, you know. But I've also seen the 330 00:17:50,480 --> 00:17:54,080 Speaker 12: transfer portal work for actually two of my boys, and 331 00:17:54,119 --> 00:17:56,280 Speaker 12: I had one son that was at Nebraska, went to 332 00:17:56,359 --> 00:18:00,879 Speaker 12: Kansas State for some particular issues, had a great finish 333 00:18:00,920 --> 00:18:05,080 Speaker 12: to his career there. With EJ it was some opportunities 334 00:18:05,119 --> 00:18:07,040 Speaker 12: as he played really well at Temple to see if 335 00:18:07,040 --> 00:18:10,320 Speaker 12: he could parlay that into a bigger opportunity that he 336 00:18:10,359 --> 00:18:14,360 Speaker 12: didn't get out of high school. And so I understand 337 00:18:14,400 --> 00:18:17,080 Speaker 12: the NAL. I think guys should definitely get paid. I 338 00:18:17,080 --> 00:18:20,400 Speaker 12: think they should get what they're worth. I love the opportunity, 339 00:18:21,200 --> 00:18:24,360 Speaker 12: but I think there has to be reasons on why 340 00:18:24,760 --> 00:18:27,320 Speaker 12: you're making the jump. You know, the idea of just 341 00:18:27,720 --> 00:18:30,920 Speaker 12: jumping one place to another solely for money, I think 342 00:18:31,040 --> 00:18:33,480 Speaker 12: is always going to be a problem. 343 00:18:33,560 --> 00:18:35,320 Speaker 3: I think the fact that some teams have. 344 00:18:35,440 --> 00:18:39,400 Speaker 12: Way more money than other teams, even within conferences and 345 00:18:39,800 --> 00:18:43,440 Speaker 12: those sorts of things, creates a whole another issue there. 346 00:18:43,480 --> 00:18:45,960 Speaker 12: So obviously, I think there's some benefits to it, some 347 00:18:46,040 --> 00:18:48,159 Speaker 12: negatives to it, and I just think it has to 348 00:18:48,200 --> 00:18:51,840 Speaker 12: be it has to be monitored and set up in 349 00:18:51,880 --> 00:18:54,680 Speaker 12: a different way to make it successful. 350 00:18:54,720 --> 00:18:58,560 Speaker 2: I think for everybody you got football coming up tonight, 351 00:18:58,880 --> 00:19:01,040 Speaker 2: do you have a better handle on the Lions or 352 00:19:01,080 --> 00:19:01,800 Speaker 2: the Cowboys? 353 00:19:04,560 --> 00:19:08,399 Speaker 12: I think I still have questions on both, but I 354 00:19:08,400 --> 00:19:10,680 Speaker 12: think Dallas is maybe showing us a little bit more 355 00:19:10,720 --> 00:19:13,760 Speaker 12: of what they can be or the consistency now that 356 00:19:13,800 --> 00:19:15,440 Speaker 12: they've got some guys healthy on. 357 00:19:15,400 --> 00:19:16,760 Speaker 3: Defense, they made the trades. 358 00:19:17,320 --> 00:19:20,240 Speaker 12: So still not sure there are a great defense, But 359 00:19:20,359 --> 00:19:23,439 Speaker 12: with that offense, I think, you know, we can feel 360 00:19:23,560 --> 00:19:26,920 Speaker 12: like either defense has done enough to show us they 361 00:19:26,920 --> 00:19:30,800 Speaker 12: can consistently play at a certain level. Yeah, I'm still 362 00:19:30,920 --> 00:19:33,160 Speaker 12: have a lot of questions with the Lions coming into 363 00:19:33,160 --> 00:19:35,720 Speaker 12: the year, I think we all thought we knew what 364 00:19:35,800 --> 00:19:38,840 Speaker 12: they could be and now it's been a roller coaster 365 00:19:38,920 --> 00:19:43,119 Speaker 12: ride both offensively and defensively with them some of the 366 00:19:43,119 --> 00:19:45,880 Speaker 12: injuries that they have, Yeah, I would say I'm probably 367 00:19:46,359 --> 00:19:48,320 Speaker 12: have a better feel for what I'm going to get 368 00:19:48,320 --> 00:19:50,959 Speaker 12: from the Dallas Cowboys than what I'm going to get 369 00:19:51,000 --> 00:19:51,520 Speaker 12: for the Lions. 370 00:19:52,480 --> 00:19:54,760 Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm trying to figure out the Lions situation here. 371 00:19:54,800 --> 00:19:57,040 Speaker 2: I know they've got some injuries here, and they do 372 00:19:57,160 --> 00:20:01,760 Speaker 2: run the football and Gibbs is great, but they just 373 00:20:02,119 --> 00:20:05,920 Speaker 2: seem like they've hit their ceiling. And I thought that they, 374 00:20:06,520 --> 00:20:08,520 Speaker 2: you know, that was a team that, all right, it 375 00:20:08,560 --> 00:20:11,000 Speaker 2: didn't work out last year because the injuries now were 376 00:20:11,040 --> 00:20:13,960 Speaker 2: really going to show you and it just they really 377 00:20:14,000 --> 00:20:16,800 Speaker 2: disappointed here and they might be the third best team 378 00:20:16,800 --> 00:20:18,160 Speaker 2: in their own division right now. 379 00:20:19,200 --> 00:20:22,520 Speaker 12: Yeah, I think you're right, you know, but it's hard 380 00:20:22,560 --> 00:20:26,280 Speaker 12: also to sustain the level of success that they've had 381 00:20:26,320 --> 00:20:28,359 Speaker 12: over the last couple of years, and specifically what they 382 00:20:28,400 --> 00:20:29,040 Speaker 12: had last year. 383 00:20:29,080 --> 00:20:32,879 Speaker 3: I mean, fifteen wins is crazy, and you know, I 384 00:20:32,880 --> 00:20:34,880 Speaker 3: would have to go back and look, but I would. 385 00:20:34,640 --> 00:20:36,440 Speaker 12: Guess that they were in a lot of close games 386 00:20:36,520 --> 00:20:39,960 Speaker 12: and somehow find found a way to win those close 387 00:20:40,040 --> 00:20:43,120 Speaker 12: games last year. And it's hard to sustain that as well, 388 00:20:43,160 --> 00:20:46,040 Speaker 12: because we know in the NFL, so many games are 389 00:20:46,080 --> 00:20:49,560 Speaker 12: decided by one score or less and it comes down 390 00:20:49,600 --> 00:20:52,760 Speaker 12: to one play here or there, or one mistake here 391 00:20:52,840 --> 00:20:55,280 Speaker 12: or there, and you know, I think we're seeing it, 392 00:20:55,280 --> 00:20:58,480 Speaker 12: like with the Eagles, pretty much the same cast of characters, 393 00:20:58,840 --> 00:21:01,000 Speaker 12: but they're not playing as well this year. 394 00:21:01,040 --> 00:21:03,560 Speaker 3: I think the same thing holds true for the Lions. 395 00:21:03,720 --> 00:21:06,360 Speaker 12: A lot of the same character, especially on offense, and 396 00:21:06,440 --> 00:21:09,040 Speaker 12: not playing as well this year. 397 00:21:09,080 --> 00:21:11,679 Speaker 3: And trying to put your finger on exactly what that is. 398 00:21:12,320 --> 00:21:16,000 Speaker 12: Maybe it's just the ability to sustain a high level 399 00:21:16,040 --> 00:21:19,480 Speaker 12: of play year after year after year in the NFL, 400 00:21:19,920 --> 00:21:21,240 Speaker 12: it's just not that easy. 401 00:21:22,680 --> 00:21:24,720 Speaker 2: Talking to Kurt Warner, he'll be in the radio booth. 402 00:21:24,760 --> 00:21:27,800 Speaker 2: It'll be the Eagles visiting the Chargers. That'll be next 403 00:21:27,840 --> 00:21:31,159 Speaker 2: Monday night. Are you planning on Justin Herbert playing in 404 00:21:31,160 --> 00:21:31,639 Speaker 2: that game? 405 00:21:32,600 --> 00:21:35,560 Speaker 12: I'm planning on him playing, you know, being that it's 406 00:21:35,600 --> 00:21:39,440 Speaker 12: his left hand, you know, knowing the toughness of Justin 407 00:21:39,480 --> 00:21:43,399 Speaker 12: Herbert and the things that he's played through before. Understanding 408 00:21:43,440 --> 00:21:47,480 Speaker 12: what you know this stretch run means for this Chargers 409 00:21:47,520 --> 00:21:50,679 Speaker 12: team in terms of the playoffs and things. I'm expecting that, 410 00:21:51,080 --> 00:21:54,040 Speaker 12: you know, and I expect that from most players. If 411 00:21:54,400 --> 00:21:57,040 Speaker 12: we always ask the question, can it get any worse? 412 00:21:57,440 --> 00:22:01,240 Speaker 12: Is there something that can happen if I'm lane, that 413 00:22:01,359 --> 00:22:03,840 Speaker 12: makes this worse, and that you know, like if I 414 00:22:03,880 --> 00:22:07,359 Speaker 12: play Monday, is there a chance three weeks from now 415 00:22:07,840 --> 00:22:10,680 Speaker 12: I'm more injured and can't play when it really matters. 416 00:22:11,000 --> 00:22:12,560 Speaker 3: If the answer to that question is. 417 00:22:12,600 --> 00:22:17,280 Speaker 12: No, most players are going to do everything that they 418 00:22:17,320 --> 00:22:20,480 Speaker 12: can to to get out there. You know, I've talked 419 00:22:20,520 --> 00:22:23,359 Speaker 12: about it. You know, Jad and Daniel suffered, you know, 420 00:22:23,440 --> 00:22:26,439 Speaker 12: that tear in his you know, in his elbow. I 421 00:22:26,480 --> 00:22:30,080 Speaker 12: had the same injury back in O seven, and you know, 422 00:22:30,119 --> 00:22:32,119 Speaker 12: I had just gotten back into the starting role and 423 00:22:32,240 --> 00:22:34,480 Speaker 12: it was my first game back. I played the next 424 00:22:34,480 --> 00:22:36,800 Speaker 12: week and I played the rest of the season with 425 00:22:36,920 --> 00:22:40,840 Speaker 12: that injury simply because it was, Hey, it can't get 426 00:22:40,840 --> 00:22:44,040 Speaker 12: any worse. You know, you're just gonna sit and do rehab, 427 00:22:44,080 --> 00:22:46,040 Speaker 12: So let's just brace it up and go. And you know, 428 00:22:46,080 --> 00:22:47,920 Speaker 12: I had to hand the ball off everything with my 429 00:22:48,000 --> 00:22:50,800 Speaker 12: right hand because of that issue, where I could see 430 00:22:50,880 --> 00:22:53,760 Speaker 12: justin Herbert possibly having to do some of that stuff. 431 00:22:54,359 --> 00:22:56,720 Speaker 12: I was taken out down in the tight red zone 432 00:22:56,760 --> 00:22:59,200 Speaker 12: because we we had to go under center and some type. 433 00:22:59,359 --> 00:23:02,320 Speaker 12: So I could see some adjustments being made to help 434 00:23:02,359 --> 00:23:05,280 Speaker 12: protect that hand. But as long as that hand's not 435 00:23:05,320 --> 00:23:08,560 Speaker 12: going to get any worse. I believe Justin Herbert will 436 00:23:08,600 --> 00:23:09,399 Speaker 12: be out there playing. 437 00:23:10,560 --> 00:23:14,679 Speaker 2: I asked this question yesterday to Andrew Whitworth, the former ligneman. 438 00:23:15,119 --> 00:23:17,720 Speaker 2: Do you want your quarterback to be smart or tough? 439 00:23:17,840 --> 00:23:21,760 Speaker 2: If you have to choose between those two, smart or tough? 440 00:23:24,000 --> 00:23:27,240 Speaker 12: I mean, I guess the question is when you say tough, 441 00:23:27,320 --> 00:23:29,919 Speaker 12: what are you talking about. I know yesterday when you 442 00:23:29,960 --> 00:23:33,399 Speaker 12: were talking, you were talking more about Jackson Dart running 443 00:23:33,400 --> 00:23:37,240 Speaker 12: down the field and taking big hits. In that case, 444 00:23:37,280 --> 00:23:40,080 Speaker 12: I want my quarterback to be smart more than tough. 445 00:23:41,040 --> 00:23:43,720 Speaker 12: I think there's a toughness factor to kind of what 446 00:23:43,760 --> 00:23:46,159 Speaker 12: we're talking about with Justin Herbert, or a toughness to 447 00:23:46,720 --> 00:23:50,840 Speaker 12: standing in the pocket and you know, and delivering a throw, 448 00:23:51,080 --> 00:23:52,960 Speaker 12: you know, to the last second when you're getting hit. 449 00:23:54,040 --> 00:23:56,359 Speaker 12: There's a level of toughness that I go, Okay, I 450 00:23:56,400 --> 00:24:00,800 Speaker 12: want my quarterback to be tough in that way. But 451 00:24:00,880 --> 00:24:04,959 Speaker 12: I probably would say overall, you know, less people are 452 00:24:04,960 --> 00:24:07,560 Speaker 12: gonna worry about us being tough, and more people are 453 00:24:07,560 --> 00:24:08,160 Speaker 12: gonna worry. 454 00:24:07,960 --> 00:24:08,959 Speaker 3: About us being smart. 455 00:24:09,720 --> 00:24:12,880 Speaker 12: I want a smart quarterback that makes good decisions, that's 456 00:24:12,920 --> 00:24:16,040 Speaker 12: out there and available to his team and gives them 457 00:24:16,119 --> 00:24:19,200 Speaker 12: chances to win every time out. Although I do understand 458 00:24:19,240 --> 00:24:22,040 Speaker 12: the idea of toughness, I just don't need it. When 459 00:24:23,000 --> 00:24:25,000 Speaker 12: you know, when you can run out of bounds or 460 00:24:25,000 --> 00:24:26,840 Speaker 12: you can gain two more yards, I don't need you 461 00:24:26,920 --> 00:24:29,720 Speaker 12: to take that big hit. I don't need you, you know, 462 00:24:29,800 --> 00:24:33,200 Speaker 12: to run through a defender instead of slide. I don't 463 00:24:33,240 --> 00:24:35,600 Speaker 12: look at quarterbacks, you know, when I watch film and go, 464 00:24:35,720 --> 00:24:38,440 Speaker 12: oh geez, you know, I wish I had that guy 465 00:24:38,480 --> 00:24:41,760 Speaker 12: that was running through a linebacker. No, I'm like, slide, slide, 466 00:24:41,800 --> 00:24:46,679 Speaker 12: be smart and get back up and help your team. 467 00:24:47,640 --> 00:24:47,840 Speaker 3: Yeah. 468 00:24:48,320 --> 00:24:50,640 Speaker 2: That was my point is you're gonna get a yard. 469 00:24:51,119 --> 00:24:54,520 Speaker 2: What does it matter. You're coming off concussion protocol, you 470 00:24:54,600 --> 00:24:57,680 Speaker 2: got two wins on the season. Get out of bounds. 471 00:24:57,920 --> 00:25:01,120 Speaker 2: You guys can build on something. You I have something 472 00:25:01,200 --> 00:25:04,400 Speaker 2: here in the embryonic stages. I don't need to show 473 00:25:04,720 --> 00:25:08,360 Speaker 2: you know, play all seventeen games. If you survive seventeen 474 00:25:08,400 --> 00:25:10,840 Speaker 2: regular season games, you're tough. You don't need to tell 475 00:25:10,880 --> 00:25:13,840 Speaker 2: me show me you're tough. That will tell me. Just 476 00:25:13,920 --> 00:25:15,399 Speaker 2: there the availability. 477 00:25:16,080 --> 00:25:17,800 Speaker 12: Yeah, and I think you know, we could go back 478 00:25:17,800 --> 00:25:20,199 Speaker 12: to another Giants quarterback in Eli Manning. 479 00:25:20,560 --> 00:25:21,840 Speaker 3: And you know, Eli. 480 00:25:22,080 --> 00:25:25,399 Speaker 12: There were times that he was going to just go down, like, hey, 481 00:25:25,400 --> 00:25:27,160 Speaker 12: if the play was over, I'm just going to fall 482 00:25:27,200 --> 00:25:30,399 Speaker 12: down in the pocket. And he became known as a 483 00:25:30,440 --> 00:25:34,320 Speaker 12: tough quarterback why because he was never out Like he 484 00:25:34,480 --> 00:25:37,880 Speaker 12: played so many games in a row for the Giants 485 00:25:37,880 --> 00:25:40,840 Speaker 12: and it was like, that's what you know, we want 486 00:25:41,240 --> 00:25:43,480 Speaker 12: is the guy that's going to be out there and play. 487 00:25:43,520 --> 00:25:46,840 Speaker 12: And so he understood when the play was over. And 488 00:25:46,920 --> 00:25:49,680 Speaker 12: there's no doubt that people get excited and your sideline 489 00:25:49,680 --> 00:25:54,239 Speaker 12: gets excited if your quarterback runs over a linebacker, you know, 490 00:25:54,320 --> 00:25:57,239 Speaker 12: down the field. I understand that aspect of things, But 491 00:25:57,560 --> 00:25:58,840 Speaker 12: I think you're one hundred percent right. 492 00:25:59,040 --> 00:26:00,000 Speaker 3: Is that more important? 493 00:26:00,200 --> 00:26:02,479 Speaker 12: Your team wants you if you're the leader and if 494 00:26:02,480 --> 00:26:04,840 Speaker 12: you're the guy to be out there ever snap, and 495 00:26:04,840 --> 00:26:06,800 Speaker 12: they're not going to worry about you sliding or falling 496 00:26:06,840 --> 00:26:08,879 Speaker 12: down every once in a while as long as you 497 00:26:08,960 --> 00:26:10,600 Speaker 12: do the things that your team needs you to do 498 00:26:10,720 --> 00:26:11,440 Speaker 12: on a weekly base. 499 00:26:12,720 --> 00:26:15,040 Speaker 2: Help me understand from your perspective as a Hall of 500 00:26:15,040 --> 00:26:19,879 Speaker 2: Famer Drake May's development and contrast that with Caleb Williams development. 501 00:26:19,920 --> 00:26:22,520 Speaker 2: Because the Bears are playing well. I don't think they're 502 00:26:22,520 --> 00:26:25,679 Speaker 2: playing well because of Caleb Williams where the Patriots are 503 00:26:25,680 --> 00:26:28,680 Speaker 2: playing well, and I believe that is in large part 504 00:26:28,720 --> 00:26:29,360 Speaker 2: to Drake May. 505 00:26:30,400 --> 00:26:30,640 Speaker 3: Yeah. 506 00:26:30,680 --> 00:26:33,359 Speaker 12: Well, I mean, I feel like Drake played well last year, 507 00:26:33,640 --> 00:26:37,200 Speaker 12: but I feel he's in a system that really fits 508 00:26:37,640 --> 00:26:40,639 Speaker 12: what he does as a quarterback. I think Josh McDaniels 509 00:26:40,640 --> 00:26:43,960 Speaker 12: does a great job of designing plays. It's what I 510 00:26:44,000 --> 00:26:47,719 Speaker 12: call full field plays, where it's drop back, read the coverage. 511 00:26:47,760 --> 00:26:49,560 Speaker 12: When you know what the coverage is, I've got a 512 00:26:49,640 --> 00:26:51,960 Speaker 12: concept that can attack that coverage and you just have 513 00:26:52,040 --> 00:26:54,720 Speaker 12: to get your eyes there, read it, and it speeds 514 00:26:54,800 --> 00:26:58,640 Speaker 12: up the game for Drake May because he's really good 515 00:26:58,800 --> 00:27:02,440 Speaker 12: at doing those things and so the system really fits 516 00:27:02,880 --> 00:27:05,480 Speaker 12: who he is. And when you talk about development, that 517 00:27:05,640 --> 00:27:08,760 Speaker 12: to me is the first step in development. Do you 518 00:27:08,840 --> 00:27:12,639 Speaker 12: have a play designer, a play caller that sees the 519 00:27:12,720 --> 00:27:16,240 Speaker 12: game like the quarterback sees the game like You can 520 00:27:16,280 --> 00:27:19,000 Speaker 12: have a lot of really good plays in an offense, 521 00:27:19,440 --> 00:27:22,200 Speaker 12: but if it doesn't connect to how the quarterback plays 522 00:27:22,240 --> 00:27:25,480 Speaker 12: the game, it makes the game harder and they're not 523 00:27:25,640 --> 00:27:28,440 Speaker 12: comfortable with what they're doing every snap. I believe they've 524 00:27:28,440 --> 00:27:32,199 Speaker 12: got a great comfort level together to go along with 525 00:27:32,280 --> 00:27:34,240 Speaker 12: the way Drake is throwing the football. I mean it's 526 00:27:34,280 --> 00:27:37,000 Speaker 12: like effortless, it's easy, his ability to throw the ball 527 00:27:37,040 --> 00:27:37,600 Speaker 12: down the field. 528 00:27:37,680 --> 00:27:40,400 Speaker 3: But I think Josh has really sped up. 529 00:27:40,320 --> 00:27:43,159 Speaker 12: Those reads for him so he can play fast, know 530 00:27:43,200 --> 00:27:45,000 Speaker 12: what he wants to do with the football, and that 531 00:27:45,160 --> 00:27:46,360 Speaker 12: just makes him more confident. 532 00:27:46,720 --> 00:27:49,639 Speaker 3: On the other side, with Caleb, I think Caleb is 533 00:27:49,640 --> 00:27:50,920 Speaker 3: a guy that. 534 00:27:52,280 --> 00:27:56,600 Speaker 12: Hasn't had to process information as much as maybe a 535 00:27:56,680 --> 00:27:58,960 Speaker 12: Drake may or some other quarterbacks. He's been a guy 536 00:27:58,960 --> 00:28:01,800 Speaker 12: that been able to lie on the athleticism. You know, 537 00:28:01,840 --> 00:28:04,399 Speaker 12: we watched him in college. He can make all the throws, 538 00:28:04,520 --> 00:28:06,040 Speaker 12: but he would buy a lot of time and he 539 00:28:06,080 --> 00:28:09,760 Speaker 12: would create because he was more comfortable with that. And 540 00:28:09,840 --> 00:28:12,639 Speaker 12: so what's happened is he's got to the NFL is 541 00:28:14,200 --> 00:28:17,040 Speaker 12: We're trying and everybody's trying. Ben's trying to get him 542 00:28:17,080 --> 00:28:21,960 Speaker 12: to play more conventional quarterback, go through his reads, his progressions, 543 00:28:22,040 --> 00:28:24,880 Speaker 12: stay in the pocket, and it's a battle for him. 544 00:28:25,119 --> 00:28:27,679 Speaker 12: It's a battle for him right now to change the 545 00:28:27,720 --> 00:28:30,239 Speaker 12: way that he's played the game. He's gotten better at 546 00:28:30,280 --> 00:28:32,920 Speaker 12: it from last year to this year. Last year wasn't 547 00:28:32,920 --> 00:28:36,280 Speaker 12: processing very fast, holding onto the football, you know, almost 548 00:28:36,320 --> 00:28:39,320 Speaker 12: too much, and taking too many sacks. This year, he's 549 00:28:39,360 --> 00:28:43,000 Speaker 12: gotten better with those things, but still not there yet 550 00:28:43,040 --> 00:28:46,080 Speaker 12: where I believe it's it's a comfort level for him 551 00:28:46,080 --> 00:28:48,440 Speaker 12: to go, oh, I got this one, two, three, and 552 00:28:48,840 --> 00:28:51,840 Speaker 12: work through those things and feel comfortable in that place. 553 00:28:52,120 --> 00:28:55,080 Speaker 12: So that's where when you talk about the process of 554 00:28:55,080 --> 00:28:58,400 Speaker 12: the two of them. Drake more comfortable in that setting 555 00:28:58,720 --> 00:29:02,640 Speaker 12: through college and where he's at now. Caleb not as comfortable, 556 00:29:02,800 --> 00:29:06,040 Speaker 12: but working through it and fighting through it. And so 557 00:29:06,120 --> 00:29:09,000 Speaker 12: he's gotten much better from last year, but still has 558 00:29:09,000 --> 00:29:11,840 Speaker 12: a ways to go in that arena. And I think 559 00:29:11,880 --> 00:29:14,840 Speaker 12: as he gets more comfortable, he'll also get more accurate. 560 00:29:14,960 --> 00:29:17,160 Speaker 12: That's the other part of it is Drake has been 561 00:29:17,200 --> 00:29:20,680 Speaker 12: extremely accurate throwing the football. Caleb is not. Caleb's made 562 00:29:20,680 --> 00:29:23,400 Speaker 12: a lot of big, explosive plays, but he's also missing 563 00:29:23,480 --> 00:29:25,560 Speaker 12: a lot of layups. And I think a lot of 564 00:29:25,600 --> 00:29:28,040 Speaker 12: that comes with knowing exactly what you want to do 565 00:29:28,080 --> 00:29:30,760 Speaker 12: with the football, being comfortable with that, and then being 566 00:29:30,800 --> 00:29:31,520 Speaker 12: able that a read. 567 00:29:33,320 --> 00:29:36,080 Speaker 2: This may sound strange, but it just came to my mind. 568 00:29:36,200 --> 00:29:38,960 Speaker 2: Can you have too much talent as a quarterback? 569 00:29:41,560 --> 00:29:41,840 Speaker 3: Well? 570 00:29:42,080 --> 00:29:45,200 Speaker 12: I think a lot of talent. I say this, Dan, 571 00:29:45,280 --> 00:29:48,680 Speaker 12: and I didn't have this so I'm just speculating like 572 00:29:48,760 --> 00:29:52,400 Speaker 12: everybody else. But yeah, I do believe the more talent 573 00:29:52,480 --> 00:29:55,640 Speaker 12: and the more skills and gifts you have, the more 574 00:29:55,720 --> 00:29:59,800 Speaker 12: it's going to kind of open up the possibilities of 575 00:29:59,840 --> 00:30:02,600 Speaker 12: what you could do on every play, you know, that 576 00:30:02,640 --> 00:30:05,200 Speaker 12: the throws that you could make, the ability to be 577 00:30:05,320 --> 00:30:08,720 Speaker 12: creative instead of staying in the pocket, you know, those 578 00:30:08,760 --> 00:30:12,400 Speaker 12: sorts of things I think open up more possibilities for 579 00:30:12,720 --> 00:30:15,560 Speaker 12: a guy like me. There was one possibility you're going 580 00:30:15,600 --> 00:30:17,320 Speaker 12: to stand in the pocket, You're going to read the 581 00:30:17,360 --> 00:30:19,040 Speaker 12: coverage and you're gonna have to throw it to the 582 00:30:19,080 --> 00:30:22,280 Speaker 12: right guy, and so it simplified things for me from 583 00:30:22,320 --> 00:30:26,120 Speaker 12: that standpoint. I've always wondered how an athletic quarterback decides 584 00:30:26,520 --> 00:30:28,800 Speaker 12: when it's time to run, like when is it time 585 00:30:28,840 --> 00:30:31,880 Speaker 12: to take off, as opposed to staying in your progressions, 586 00:30:32,600 --> 00:30:35,040 Speaker 12: you know, and even forcing that issue. You know, I've 587 00:30:35,040 --> 00:30:37,080 Speaker 12: talked a lot about it that I believe, you know, 588 00:30:37,120 --> 00:30:38,560 Speaker 12: athletic quarterbacks, we've got. 589 00:30:38,400 --> 00:30:40,880 Speaker 3: More and more of them now. They kind of grow 590 00:30:41,000 --> 00:30:43,840 Speaker 3: up not being forced to learn. 591 00:30:43,600 --> 00:30:47,240 Speaker 12: How to read the field or read defenses and progress 592 00:30:47,280 --> 00:30:50,840 Speaker 12: through their their reads, their you know, their coach drop 593 00:30:50,920 --> 00:30:52,640 Speaker 12: back see if your first guy's open. 594 00:30:52,840 --> 00:30:55,640 Speaker 3: If he's not, go create a play for us, And 595 00:30:55,680 --> 00:30:58,520 Speaker 3: so that becomes their norm more and more and more. 596 00:30:58,520 --> 00:31:00,520 Speaker 12: And these guys are such great athletes, they get further 597 00:31:00,560 --> 00:31:03,320 Speaker 12: and further and further in their careers without having to 598 00:31:03,440 --> 00:31:06,520 Speaker 12: learn the opposite. So, like with Caleb Williams, now we're 599 00:31:06,520 --> 00:31:09,360 Speaker 12: getting into the NFL level against the best players in 600 00:31:09,400 --> 00:31:12,080 Speaker 12: the world, and we're saying, hey, now you have to 601 00:31:12,200 --> 00:31:15,240 Speaker 12: change the way you've always played, and you've got to 602 00:31:15,320 --> 00:31:17,680 Speaker 12: learn to process better, and you've got to learn to 603 00:31:17,720 --> 00:31:20,480 Speaker 12: stay in the pocket, and I mean that's got to 604 00:31:20,520 --> 00:31:22,920 Speaker 12: be a really hard thing to do. So to your point, 605 00:31:23,240 --> 00:31:26,280 Speaker 12: the more skills you have, the more you and I 606 00:31:26,280 --> 00:31:27,959 Speaker 12: don't even want want to say get away with, the 607 00:31:28,000 --> 00:31:31,040 Speaker 12: more things you can do on a given play through 608 00:31:31,080 --> 00:31:33,480 Speaker 12: the majority of your career. And then when we try 609 00:31:33,520 --> 00:31:35,160 Speaker 12: to fine tune that and say we can't do this 610 00:31:35,200 --> 00:31:37,800 Speaker 12: as much anymore, and you can't do this as much anymore, 611 00:31:38,240 --> 00:31:40,240 Speaker 12: it's always going to be I think a struggle for 612 00:31:40,280 --> 00:31:42,560 Speaker 12: those guys for at least a period, and then it 613 00:31:42,680 --> 00:31:46,280 Speaker 12: leads the question can they ever get to maybe the 614 00:31:46,320 --> 00:31:48,760 Speaker 12: point we want them to get to in terms of, hey, 615 00:31:48,760 --> 00:31:52,480 Speaker 12: you got to be able to process and create at 616 00:31:52,520 --> 00:31:55,480 Speaker 12: the same type of level. I think that's really hard, 617 00:31:55,480 --> 00:31:57,080 Speaker 12: and we don't see a lot of guys that can 618 00:31:57,120 --> 00:31:57,440 Speaker 12: do that. 619 00:31:57,560 --> 00:31:57,760 Speaker 3: You know. 620 00:31:58,000 --> 00:31:59,959 Speaker 12: Lamar Jackson is one of the guys that I think 621 00:32:00,160 --> 00:32:03,800 Speaker 12: does that really well. Josh Allen has shown at times 622 00:32:03,800 --> 00:32:05,800 Speaker 12: he can do that really well. But I think that's 623 00:32:05,800 --> 00:32:09,440 Speaker 12: a tough dynamic to fight for these guys that are 624 00:32:09,480 --> 00:32:13,080 Speaker 12: just incredible athletes for the majority of their lives. 625 00:32:13,320 --> 00:32:15,680 Speaker 2: Yeah, And I always bring this up because it's not 626 00:32:15,840 --> 00:32:19,720 Speaker 2: necessarily Michael Vick or Kyler Murray. Steve Young was like this. 627 00:32:20,320 --> 00:32:23,080 Speaker 2: Steve Young said, Hey, I had one read not there, 628 00:32:23,120 --> 00:32:25,320 Speaker 2: I'm running and then all of a sudden, Bill Walsh 629 00:32:25,360 --> 00:32:27,600 Speaker 2: is like, what are you doing? Stay in the pocket, 630 00:32:27,640 --> 00:32:29,960 Speaker 2: go through your progressions. And he became a Hall of 631 00:32:29,960 --> 00:32:33,920 Speaker 2: Fame quarterback because of that. He had the ability to 632 00:32:34,000 --> 00:32:37,040 Speaker 2: be able to extend plays. But Bill Walsh would say, 633 00:32:37,120 --> 00:32:40,480 Speaker 2: will you stop doing that? Go through your progressions. You've 634 00:32:40,480 --> 00:32:43,320 Speaker 2: got great receivers, and he became one of the most 635 00:32:43,400 --> 00:32:45,320 Speaker 2: accurate quarterbacks in NFL history. 636 00:32:46,200 --> 00:32:48,640 Speaker 12: Yeah, and it makes the game easy. You want the 637 00:32:48,720 --> 00:32:52,080 Speaker 12: offense to work for you. Like I still think even 638 00:32:52,120 --> 00:32:54,560 Speaker 12: with some of these great athletes, and maybe Lamar is 639 00:32:54,600 --> 00:32:55,200 Speaker 12: the exception. 640 00:32:56,120 --> 00:32:58,120 Speaker 3: But it's hard to win. 641 00:32:58,000 --> 00:33:01,200 Speaker 12: Games in the NFL week in and week out, trying 642 00:33:01,240 --> 00:33:04,880 Speaker 12: to be athletic. You're trying to run around and make plays. 643 00:33:04,920 --> 00:33:08,760 Speaker 12: You've got to allow the game where the offense and it. 644 00:33:13,720 --> 00:33:22,240 Speaker 2: We lost you, We lost your connection there. We can 645 00:33:22,280 --> 00:33:24,040 Speaker 2: see you, we can't hear you. That's weird. 646 00:33:24,080 --> 00:33:25,080 Speaker 4: How often does that happen? 647 00:33:25,840 --> 00:33:29,320 Speaker 2: It is the audio and not the video. Yeah, Kurt, 648 00:33:29,840 --> 00:33:32,360 Speaker 2: we'll catch up with you, but thank you. He'll be 649 00:33:32,400 --> 00:33:35,200 Speaker 2: on the Monday night call between the Eagles and the Chargers. 650 00:33:35,480 --> 00:33:37,160 Speaker 2: I was going to try to read his lips, but 651 00:33:37,680 --> 00:33:41,280 Speaker 2: I wanted to be fair to him. But yeah, I mean, 652 00:33:41,320 --> 00:33:45,080 Speaker 2: that's why when I think of you got so much talent, 653 00:33:45,800 --> 00:33:48,240 Speaker 2: but you're using it in a wrong way. And Steve 654 00:33:48,280 --> 00:33:51,160 Speaker 2: Young mentioned that when he joined us this week, He's like, 655 00:33:51,480 --> 00:33:54,200 Speaker 2: I'd rush for a touchdown and Bill Walsh would say, 656 00:33:54,240 --> 00:33:58,280 Speaker 2: what are you doing? And Steve said, I'm scoring a touchdown. No, 657 00:33:58,760 --> 00:34:00,840 Speaker 2: we don't need you to do that. We don't need 658 00:34:00,880 --> 00:34:03,520 Speaker 2: you stay in the pocket. All right, We'll take a break. 659 00:34:04,320 --> 00:34:06,920 Speaker 2: Brian Winhor's Top of the Hour on the future of 660 00:34:06,960 --> 00:34:10,720 Speaker 2: Giannis in Milwaukee. More phone calls after this. Fox Sports 661 00:34:10,800 --> 00:34:13,319 Speaker 2: Radio has the best sports talk lineup in the nation. 662 00:34:13,760 --> 00:34:17,399 Speaker 2: Catch all of our shows at Foxsports Radio dot com 663 00:34:17,480 --> 00:34:21,320 Speaker 2: and within the iHeartRadio app. Search FSR to listen live. 664 00:34:21,800 --> 00:34:25,799 Speaker 2: One of my college sources said that got to give 665 00:34:25,840 --> 00:34:28,520 Speaker 2: credit to South Florida for what they did to bring 666 00:34:28,560 --> 00:34:33,040 Speaker 2: in Brian Hartline, the offensive coordinator at Ohio State, and 667 00:34:33,160 --> 00:34:36,840 Speaker 2: he was in line for no pun intended, Penn State, 668 00:34:37,320 --> 00:34:40,440 Speaker 2: but South Florida got him. He's going to stay with 669 00:34:40,520 --> 00:34:43,080 Speaker 2: Ohio State during the playoffs and then he's going to 670 00:34:43,120 --> 00:34:46,680 Speaker 2: take over for South Florida. But South Florida is going 671 00:34:46,760 --> 00:34:49,520 Speaker 2: to step up with its resources. They're gonna try to 672 00:34:49,520 --> 00:34:52,359 Speaker 2: be a power for team. They want to get in 673 00:34:52,640 --> 00:34:56,960 Speaker 2: with the big boys, and they have a new funding 674 00:34:57,040 --> 00:35:00,359 Speaker 2: department and South Florida's trying to be a player. They 675 00:35:00,400 --> 00:35:03,600 Speaker 2: got Brian Hartline, who's done a wonderful job at Ohio State. See, 676 00:35:03,680 --> 00:35:07,440 Speaker 2: I didn't know if he had the experience for Penn State. 677 00:35:07,880 --> 00:35:10,080 Speaker 2: Now he knows the big ten. He played at Ohio State, 678 00:35:10,160 --> 00:35:12,520 Speaker 2: and I thought he might be the guy for Penn State. 679 00:35:12,800 --> 00:35:15,319 Speaker 2: Where you're gonna get a young guy in there and 680 00:35:15,360 --> 00:35:18,840 Speaker 2: you're gonna take him from Ohio State. But South Florida 681 00:35:18,920 --> 00:35:21,719 Speaker 2: did a wonderful job. It was a sneaky, sneaky hire. 682 00:35:21,719 --> 00:35:24,520 Speaker 2: When Paul goes Brian Hartline game, where's he going? I 683 00:35:24,560 --> 00:35:26,680 Speaker 2: went Penn State because I had been told that that 684 00:35:26,760 --> 00:35:29,239 Speaker 2: might be the place. Now it's South Florida. 685 00:35:29,360 --> 00:35:33,000 Speaker 5: Yeah, Paul, Yeah, USFF. USF is nine to three this year. 686 00:35:33,040 --> 00:35:34,920 Speaker 5: It's not a rebuild that he's going to. They just 687 00:35:35,200 --> 00:35:37,520 Speaker 5: got their coach taken from them, so they were ranked 688 00:35:37,560 --> 00:35:39,000 Speaker 5: eighteenth at one point in the season. 689 00:35:39,040 --> 00:35:42,440 Speaker 2: That's a really nice situation. Yeah, and they're gonna spend money. 690 00:35:42,719 --> 00:35:47,200 Speaker 2: You know, everybody sees this opportunity where you not necessarily 691 00:35:47,200 --> 00:35:49,360 Speaker 2: the big boys, but you can join the big boys 692 00:35:49,520 --> 00:35:52,479 Speaker 2: and you got to spend money. And that's what South 693 00:35:52,480 --> 00:35:55,360 Speaker 2: Florida is planning on doing. Okay, we're gonna play the 694 00:35:56,120 --> 00:35:59,319 Speaker 2: What exactly is Josh Allen trying to say here? He 695 00:35:59,480 --> 00:36:03,600 Speaker 2: was asked about the pressure to win. Here's the Bills quarterback. 696 00:36:05,040 --> 00:36:09,600 Speaker 13: It makes your your decisions, it makes sure your your 697 00:36:09,600 --> 00:36:12,280 Speaker 13: practice habits all that more meaningful. 698 00:36:12,880 --> 00:36:14,400 Speaker 2: It feels like there's a lot of pressure. 699 00:36:14,440 --> 00:36:16,720 Speaker 13: You know, as the saying goes, pressures can make diamonds 700 00:36:16,760 --> 00:36:19,040 Speaker 13: and burst pipes and make diamonds. I think that's how 701 00:36:19,080 --> 00:36:20,880 Speaker 13: it goes. I'm not fully sure how it does, but 702 00:36:21,320 --> 00:36:24,000 Speaker 13: it's the best time to play play football. It's when 703 00:36:24,560 --> 00:36:26,880 Speaker 13: when the stakes are high, you gotta go out there 704 00:36:26,880 --> 00:36:28,640 Speaker 13: and you got to perform your job. 705 00:36:30,160 --> 00:36:35,319 Speaker 2: Okay, pressure burst pipes, but also makes diamonds. Is that 706 00:36:36,200 --> 00:36:39,759 Speaker 2: what Josh Allen is saying here? Yeah, yes, Paula, Yeah, 707 00:36:39,760 --> 00:36:41,200 Speaker 2: I think he got a little loose. He was. 708 00:36:41,280 --> 00:36:44,560 Speaker 5: He was right on the phrases pressure makes diamonds. It 709 00:36:44,680 --> 00:36:48,680 Speaker 5: was general George S. Patten created that years ago. But 710 00:36:48,760 --> 00:36:52,120 Speaker 5: there's another phrase, no pressure, no diamonds that was also 711 00:36:52,280 --> 00:36:54,719 Speaker 5: very popular in that eighteen and nineteen hundreds. So I 712 00:36:54,760 --> 00:36:56,200 Speaker 5: think he had it and got a little loose in 713 00:36:56,200 --> 00:36:56,680 Speaker 5: turn four. 714 00:36:57,920 --> 00:37:02,960 Speaker 2: But pressure also what creates leaks and blows out pipes 715 00:37:03,080 --> 00:37:03,520 Speaker 2: or something. 716 00:37:04,200 --> 00:37:07,560 Speaker 8: Marvin the things pressure bust pipes is the other thing pipes. 717 00:37:07,600 --> 00:37:10,560 Speaker 4: Okay, So I guess you combine them into pressure makes 718 00:37:10,600 --> 00:37:11,840 Speaker 4: diamonds or burst pipes. 719 00:37:12,400 --> 00:37:13,600 Speaker 2: Yes, okay. 720 00:37:14,239 --> 00:37:15,919 Speaker 5: In Buffalo in the winter, if you have burst pipes, 721 00:37:15,960 --> 00:37:16,760 Speaker 5: you're in a big jam. 722 00:37:16,880 --> 00:37:17,680 Speaker 2: Yeah that's not good. 723 00:37:17,760 --> 00:37:20,719 Speaker 4: No, Yeah, an arctic chill coming through, So turn your 724 00:37:20,760 --> 00:37:21,760 Speaker 4: water off in the basement. 725 00:37:22,520 --> 00:37:24,239 Speaker 6: Yeah, yes, tut it seems like you got a little 726 00:37:24,239 --> 00:37:26,239 Speaker 6: tongue tied. Maybe it's just talking about the importance of 727 00:37:26,320 --> 00:37:29,040 Speaker 6: controlling pressure. Pressure can be a good thing, but pressure, 728 00:37:29,080 --> 00:37:31,240 Speaker 6: if not handled well, can lead to a disaster. 729 00:37:31,400 --> 00:37:32,840 Speaker 5: That's basically pipe. 730 00:37:32,960 --> 00:37:36,160 Speaker 2: Yeah, good, burst a pipe, or you can create a diamond, 731 00:37:36,520 --> 00:37:37,040 Speaker 2: Thank you, Todd. 732 00:37:37,120 --> 00:37:38,600 Speaker 5: Every cloud has a golden ceiling, you know. 733 00:37:38,880 --> 00:37:42,040 Speaker 2: So if the pipe burst, it's a bad thing. But 734 00:37:42,160 --> 00:37:43,759 Speaker 2: if you get a diamond, that's a good thing. 735 00:37:43,760 --> 00:37:46,440 Speaker 6: I use pressure, you know, as a positive to motivate you, 736 00:37:46,520 --> 00:37:48,279 Speaker 6: not to just knock you down and make you feel 737 00:37:48,280 --> 00:37:49,840 Speaker 6: like it's you're overwhelmed. It can't handle it. 738 00:37:50,320 --> 00:37:54,640 Speaker 2: Hold on, let me write this pressure pipe, bad, pressure, 739 00:37:55,080 --> 00:37:57,279 Speaker 2: diamond good. Okay, yeah, Paul. 740 00:37:57,440 --> 00:37:59,560 Speaker 5: My wife once said years ago, she's gonna kill me 741 00:37:59,560 --> 00:38:01,560 Speaker 5: for this. Yes, well, you gotta read between the limes. 742 00:38:02,000 --> 00:38:04,240 Speaker 5: I go shoot me. I go read between the lines. 743 00:38:04,440 --> 00:38:07,920 Speaker 5: She goes limes. I'm like, it's lines, read between the lemons. 744 00:38:07,960 --> 00:38:08,720 Speaker 2: I think, of course. 745 00:38:10,200 --> 00:38:12,640 Speaker 5: She also said, you're lying to my teeth one time, 746 00:38:12,719 --> 00:38:16,640 Speaker 5: not lying to my teeth. We're on our honeymoon. You're 747 00:38:16,719 --> 00:38:17,480 Speaker 5: lying to my teeth. 748 00:38:19,120 --> 00:38:23,640 Speaker 2: And you might have been yes, and while lying through. 749 00:38:23,440 --> 00:38:25,120 Speaker 5: Your teeth to read between the lines. 750 00:38:25,160 --> 00:38:27,959 Speaker 2: Read between the limes is she said. 751 00:38:28,000 --> 00:38:30,520 Speaker 5: She said she heard it when she was like eleven 752 00:38:30,600 --> 00:38:34,200 Speaker 5: years old and just went with it. Ever since, that 753 00:38:34,320 --> 00:38:38,560 Speaker 5: is so fantastic. Read between the lines, that's water over 754 00:38:38,600 --> 00:38:39,000 Speaker 5: the bridge. 755 00:38:39,640 --> 00:38:42,799 Speaker 2: Yeah. Usually you get that from songs where you think 756 00:38:42,840 --> 00:38:45,080 Speaker 2: you're hearing something and then you realize that what you 757 00:38:45,239 --> 00:38:48,480 Speaker 2: think you're hearing is not really what they're singing. But 758 00:38:48,960 --> 00:38:51,680 Speaker 2: I haven't. I haven't heard things like that before. 759 00:38:52,800 --> 00:38:55,839 Speaker 8: Yes, Martan, there's that song rocking around the Christmas tree 760 00:38:56,280 --> 00:39:00,160 Speaker 8: and the singer goes, maybe we'll have some pumpkin pie. 761 00:39:00,400 --> 00:39:04,399 Speaker 8: I thought it was something else, not pumpkin. I was like, well, 762 00:39:04,440 --> 00:39:08,200 Speaker 8: it's a little vulgar for the Christmas season. Maybe we'll 763 00:39:08,239 --> 00:39:09,960 Speaker 8: have some pumpkin pie. 764 00:39:10,000 --> 00:39:17,160 Speaker 2: And I was like, okay. I randomly stumbled onto Stranger 765 00:39:17,239 --> 00:39:21,280 Speaker 2: Things the final season, and I think I'm a couple 766 00:39:21,280 --> 00:39:23,480 Speaker 2: of seasons removed, so I don't know exactly what the 767 00:39:23,560 --> 00:39:27,120 Speaker 2: kids are doing. They should be driving cars, I think 768 00:39:27,160 --> 00:39:29,839 Speaker 2: at this age, but they're still on their bicycles and 769 00:39:30,200 --> 00:39:34,520 Speaker 2: with their walkie talkies. And so I watched a little 770 00:39:34,560 --> 00:39:36,560 Speaker 2: bit of it, and then I realized I have no 771 00:39:36,640 --> 00:39:41,000 Speaker 2: idea what's going on with Vekna and the kids. Yeah. 772 00:39:41,040 --> 00:39:43,000 Speaker 4: Yeah, they're all married in real life now, and like. 773 00:39:43,440 --> 00:39:47,720 Speaker 2: I know, I know Millie Bobby Brown has a child 774 00:39:48,320 --> 00:39:51,799 Speaker 2: that she adopted. She married bon Jovie's son. Yes, both. 775 00:39:51,920 --> 00:39:54,480 Speaker 5: I've never watched it. So they're still playing teenagers at 776 00:39:54,520 --> 00:39:55,480 Speaker 5: like an advanced age. 777 00:39:55,800 --> 00:39:59,359 Speaker 2: Yes, oh yeah, they're in their twenties and everybody has 778 00:39:59,400 --> 00:40:02,680 Speaker 2: a bad wig on. They all have bad wigs. 779 00:40:02,960 --> 00:40:05,160 Speaker 4: It's fun though, I mean, it's like it's fun, it's 780 00:40:05,280 --> 00:40:07,520 Speaker 4: coming to an end, and it's definitely time. 781 00:40:08,400 --> 00:40:10,799 Speaker 2: Yes, it is definitely time. It doesn't seem like you're 782 00:40:10,880 --> 00:40:15,000 Speaker 2: kind of show. Gotta admit. First couple of seasons all in. Yeah, 783 00:40:15,000 --> 00:40:17,799 Speaker 2: they're great all in and then there was too much 784 00:40:17,920 --> 00:40:21,279 Speaker 2: Vecna and you know they started to lose me after that. 785 00:40:21,400 --> 00:40:23,120 Speaker 6: Yes, you're watching any of that is one of the 786 00:40:23,160 --> 00:40:26,719 Speaker 6: more stranger things I think as supposed to sea level 787 00:40:26,800 --> 00:40:27,839 Speaker 6: college basketball games. 788 00:40:28,560 --> 00:40:31,160 Speaker 2: Yeah, and then I'm watching The Beast in Me with 789 00:40:31,440 --> 00:40:38,640 Speaker 2: Claire Danes and who's the Her husband is married to 790 00:40:39,680 --> 00:40:46,319 Speaker 2: someone famous who was in the diplomat. She was also 791 00:40:46,360 --> 00:40:59,640 Speaker 2: in the Americans. Anybody and Me? But if we google 792 00:40:59,719 --> 00:41:05,880 Speaker 2: dip your day, Carrie Russell, Carrie Russell, Carrie Russell, Okay, 793 00:41:07,520 --> 00:41:08,560 Speaker 2: I don't know why I said that.