Speaker 1: It like. I think he was trying to clean up
Speaker 1: Snoop as much as possible, but it might be it
Speaker 1: ain't coming out in the rents. Does Snoop need to
Speaker 1: be cleaned up? I mean, I think Drake, I think
Speaker 1: Dray would prefer it. You know what I'm saying. I
Speaker 1: think by there they're trying to clean it up.
Speaker 2: This is what I feel about Snoop. I feel that
Speaker 2: Snoop is the Coca Cola of hip hop. He's the
Speaker 2: biggest brand in hip hop, the most recognizable brand. Snoop
Speaker 2: is proving time and time again that Snoop Doggie dog
Speaker 2: can do whatever the hell he wanted to do. I
Speaker 2: think we just need to look Snoop Doggie dog keep
Speaker 2: kicking that good old fashioned gangster shit dog. And that's
Speaker 2: what it cause that's what his brand was built on. Dog.
Speaker 2: Snoop can do whatever he wanted to do dog, That's
Speaker 2: what got him to the Olympics. I got but I
Speaker 2: got it.
Speaker 3: But I see what Dred is trying to do.
Speaker 1: I mean, obviously I like my Snoop dogg the way
Speaker 1: I like my Snoop dog even produced by Doctor Dre.
Speaker 1: So I have my preference on what I would you know, like,
Speaker 1: but again taking the offering, that's probably about a good
Speaker 1: six seven songs that I enjoy. I'm saying it's different.
Speaker 1: What's crazy is to watch him do so much with sonics.
Speaker 4: You know, we know he's we know he's a scientist
Speaker 4: when it comes to that, we know he's scientists. But
Speaker 4: music is supposed to be I mean, well, according to Q,
Speaker 4: you know this, this is what the fans wanted. So
Speaker 4: according to this record sales and all of that, is
Speaker 4: that what the fans wanted?
Speaker 3: We maybe, I mean, what was he supposed to sell?
Speaker 2: I don't know. I'm asking you. I don't even keep
Speaker 2: up with that.
Speaker 1: Forty thousand is not bad. I think they was trying
Speaker 1: to sell liquor anyway, personally, but I.
Speaker 3: Don't know, like it.
Speaker 2: It's tough.
Speaker 1: I think their journey is a lot different. Q, specifically,
Speaker 1: listening to his his the production was a lot different.
Speaker 3: It's weird to see them not then what then his standard?
Speaker 2: Was it better or worse?
Speaker 3: It's different?
Speaker 2: That's that politically correct.
Speaker 1: It's not because it's not politically it's not like it's underproduced,
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying. It ain't like it's whack
Speaker 1: like I don't like the person who's making the music
Speaker 1: is not it's just different for what I'm used to.
Speaker 2: Hear for you know what the thing he is with
Speaker 2: that album? Man, Yeah, I don't think the music would
Speaker 2: necessarily bad. Camera just don't fit. It just wasn't stupid,
Speaker 2: That's what I think. I think that's called bad. That's
Speaker 2: called bad. That's called a this much something sounds bad
Speaker 2: and it was not good track to give somebody else
Speaker 2: bro that was in that been big.
Speaker 4: Okay, well let me let me say that because I'm
Speaker 4: not politically correct and I already know whatever it is
Speaker 4: whatever with with me and Cube and whatever.
Speaker 2: I don't but I don't want to go on record.
Speaker 1: This ain't my political This ain't I could do way
Speaker 1: better if he's being politically correct.
Speaker 4: No, but what I'm saying here, I'm saying Cube from
Speaker 4: what I heard, like Ski, I know he a hit maker.
Speaker 4: Like so, Cube's beats is up to par his raps
Speaker 4: is whack. So his his raps make the beat whack.
Speaker 3: To me, And you know it's funny.
Speaker 4: I think it's the other I think it's the other way.
Speaker 4: I think it's the other way with Snoop and dra record.
Speaker 4: I think that Snoop Snoop Raps is better than the beats.
Speaker 3: They're different than the beats. Well you know what I
Speaker 3: got you.
Speaker 1: You know what I call Snoop and Dra record a
Speaker 1: fried chicken salad with balsamic vinegar rette dresses.
Speaker 2: That's not bad.
Speaker 1: You look up like if you think of like Doggystyle
Speaker 1: as a plate of soul tacos, I call them soul.
Speaker 1: You know Nigga taco soul tacos where you Friday shell
Speaker 1: You know that that that that you remember them hardy
Speaker 1: tacos when he was younger. First time black people start
Speaker 1: frying them shells brown bead. You know, that's what you
Speaker 1: used to do. And the same thing with the soul
Speaker 1: anch a lot is how black folk make it versus
Speaker 1: this where Dre has really cleaned up his act musically,
Speaker 1: you know what I mean. And hip hop is supposed
Speaker 1: to have a dirtiness to it in my belief, but
Speaker 1: I mean to.
Speaker 2: Our Phil the gene but you was such deadly MC.
Speaker 2: And that's before we go to before we go a cube,
Speaker 2: Let's focus on Snoop and Dra.
Speaker 1: Let's do that first. Let me get that out so again,
Speaker 1: it's like I think that Dre has cleaned up his
Speaker 1: act so he's more of a musician now, like he
Speaker 1: could play the piano. Now it's more musical stuff. So
Speaker 1: again he's trying to evolve into this space. So I mean,
Speaker 1: I don't again, I don't think it's bad. I don't
Speaker 1: think it's going to.
Speaker 2: Go exercise all that on, to go do your yo
Speaker 2: stadium tour fantasies on. You know, he's making music that
Speaker 2: he what's next, He gonna play the piano and the
Speaker 2: come and see him something maybe.
Speaker 1: I mean, he was playing the piano at the super Bowl,
Speaker 1: so it's like moment, yeah, but that's the moment where
Speaker 1: he's at. So Snoop and Dre, that's where they're at.
Speaker 1: Cube thing is different. Like I've had this conversation about
Speaker 1: Cube a couple of times. The first version I remember
Speaker 1: of Q being like nine and ten years old, excuse me,
Speaker 1: even n w A. It was like the standard quintessential
Speaker 1: sy right where he was writing everything powerful, you know,
Speaker 1: inspired by everything powerful, and everything was more about powerful lines.
Speaker 3: But I've always said this, I thought the birth of Snoop.
Speaker 1: Dogg, I thought the arrival of Tupac, I thought Warren
Speaker 1: g different things put him in a bind to where
Speaker 1: he needed to become a better songwriter, write a better
Speaker 1: record maker versus the you know, the obviously about becoming
Speaker 1: the better record hold on, hold up still versus being
Speaker 1: straight out of Compton, versus being America's most killing will
Speaker 1: dethsertivy kid predator in Lethal.
Speaker 3: I think he became a better record writer. So it's
Speaker 3: not a.
Speaker 1: Compromise of lyrics still, Like you always say that, like
Speaker 1: you think MCing is some pinnacle thing in hip hop,
Speaker 1: that's just not what was the beginning of it. It
Speaker 1: was about records. It was about making people enjoy the party.
Speaker 1: I think again, the second generation of him seeing is
Speaker 1: where you keep talking talking about, where it became more
Speaker 1: about hey, you know what, let me just say something
Speaker 1: prolific and be this prolific poet. But before that, when
Speaker 1: Sylvia Robinson was making the music and Larry Smith was
Speaker 1: making the music and Too Short was making the music,
Speaker 1: and they were making really great records. So it's not
Speaker 1: like one or the other. It's more hip hop. I
Speaker 1: think as far as far as Cub I feel like
Speaker 1: as a record writer, I think he started to develop
Speaker 1: more into a record writer. You know, I mean where
Speaker 1: things started being more catchy, and I think it never
Speaker 1: went back to the m singing part. And as he
Speaker 1: stayed that, he stayed in this pocket of record writing
Speaker 1: and again it becomes a flow thing.
Speaker 3: So I can understand, you know.
Speaker 2: Yeah, Cube, to me, don't have no flows left.
Speaker 4: He used to be real aggressive, the same with h
Speaker 4: shouts out MC eight like you know m c A.
Speaker 2: You know, kind of fell into a slow flow, you know,
Speaker 2: kind of pocket.
Speaker 4: When when when he first was coming out like he
Speaker 4: he had unlimited bars, it was unpredictable about what his flow,
Speaker 4: what he was going to say. He has so much
Speaker 4: hood lingo and so much shit to get off his
Speaker 4: chest that it just was like damn, like you know
Speaker 4: what I'm saying.
Speaker 2: And that's how Cube used to be.
Speaker 4: But to me, now Q is this flow is gimmicky,
Speaker 4: is just slow, it's just whack like, it's just it's
Speaker 4: not inspired, it's not energetic, it's not electric like you
Speaker 4: know what I'm saying. It's controversial because he was really
Speaker 4: all of that. Because he was controversial. He was saying
Speaker 4: shit that get him in trouble.
Speaker 1: Sure, I agree, but that that's the that's the outrageousness
Speaker 1: that formed gangster rapp and made it the genre that
Speaker 1: it is.
Speaker 3: They market the outrageousness.
Speaker 2: You know, we was talking about lyrics and we read
Speaker 2: some lyrics on from Qu's album.
Speaker 1: Right still, I'm about to ban you from LILYCS.
Speaker 2: Hold on, this is another one on this.
Speaker 3: I do want to hear.
Speaker 2: You on my show. Up when I'm on your show,
Speaker 2: I do this.
Speaker 4: Big gunn got nothing to do with the show about
Speaker 4: acting like my lyrics.
Speaker 2: That's mean for me to come. I didn't ask for
Speaker 2: you to come.
Speaker 1: I don't want to talk about a.
Speaker 2: No lyricism and all that.
Speaker 1: She'd hop ship you to.
Speaker 2: Do the same thing. Come on and just this happiness
Speaker 2: show out. Bring the pastor grits, a bag of bits,
Speaker 2: I got a bag of tricks. Looks like you got
Speaker 2: hit with a bag of dicks. This right here is
Speaker 2: the master mix the plugs and crips. So don't resist.
Speaker 2: Smack your ass like will did Chris give a demonstration
Speaker 2: in front of the nation.
Speaker 1: I don't know you said that like that's whack. No,
Speaker 1: I think the pocket is standard. I don't think it's whack.
Speaker 1: You act like people lyrics? Yeah, but you, but you,
Speaker 1: but but again, the lyrics are not bad. He's not
Speaker 1: saying nothing bad.
Speaker 2: Is the is the delivery. It's the flow that's whack.
Speaker 1: I keep telling still this we we've been having his argument, right.
Speaker 3: He was giving me his critigue on Red Man's album.
Speaker 1: I keep telling him. The things about rap is it's
Speaker 1: not about the writer. The writer has always been overrated
Speaker 1: in the grand scheme of things. That's why some of
Speaker 1: the biggest artists in the world don't write down the stuff.
Speaker 1: I keep telling still that. I'm like, the flow is
Speaker 1: most of hip hop, you know. I mean, the flow
Speaker 1: is really the cornerstone of hip hop.
Speaker 2: But but they're not married.
Speaker 1: That's why somebody like Dog could freestyle his way into
Speaker 1: a career. He's freestyle his weigh into That's why people
Speaker 1: uted a freestyted to us what might be? Because I
Speaker 1: swear he's the league's going. You also used to add ourtat.
Speaker 1: We also used to add a fool snickings too. Don't
Speaker 1: forget them. Oh you're gonna steal them, sticky bump stiky
Speaker 1: bump bump. But it's the flow, bro, This is what
Speaker 1: this is about.
Speaker 2: Again.
Speaker 3: It's great.
Speaker 2: Look, lyrics are about writers. That's dope.
Speaker 1: No, not knocking, especially if you could put it into
Speaker 1: a great record. But it's still a record game, you
Speaker 1: know what I mean at this level. So I'm not
Speaker 1: saying we shouldn't give kudos to writers, but I'm saying
Speaker 1: you also got to understand the flow is the key.
Speaker 1: So I think the critigue of Q would be the flow.
Speaker 1: I think his flow like I think Camp. That's a
Speaker 1: fair assessment, Camp saying it is not necessarily inspired, but
Speaker 1: it's also maybe he needs to get around some people
Speaker 1: that inspired.
Speaker 2: Yep, it could be not inspired.
Speaker 1: It could be Again, this is a man that's been
Speaker 1: doing this, I don't know, forty years.
Speaker 3: You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: I mean to me, he's always been a product of
Speaker 1: what he was inspired by, whether it's him and Easy
Speaker 1: E together, he's writing for that, and he's writing for
Speaker 1: this attitude, and he's inspired by everything that's going on
Speaker 1: at that time. And then Chuck Deed becomes his inspiration,
Speaker 1: and he goes to the bomb squad and he kind
Speaker 1: of gives his own tradition. Then Can comes around and
Speaker 1: now you know they're putting him through the through the
Speaker 1: through the brother treatment, you know, the Nation of Islam treatment.
Speaker 1: He was inspired, saying with Mac Tin, he became inspired
Speaker 1: by different things. You know, he's been a successful artist
Speaker 1: since he was a kid, so therefore he's only aspired
Speaker 1: by the things he's around. So if he's not around anybody,
Speaker 1: it's pretty much gonna sound like somebody who's been making
Speaker 1: films for thirty years, forty years, no making an album.
Speaker 1: So I think if if I mean, obviously, if he
Speaker 1: was around glasses, look like I'm gonna take him on
Speaker 1: the boulevard.
Speaker 3: We're gonna he gonna be popping it.
Speaker 2: Well, from what I hear with Cube Man, Cube has
Speaker 2: always been a dude that was a concept dude. Anyway,
Speaker 2: when he live golf, he was inspired by other people.
Speaker 2: So he, like you said, he maybe who he just
Speaker 2: hanging out with. Now, if you hanging up with Jimmy
Speaker 2: Kimmel in them all day, that's what you gonna get.
Speaker 2: I don't think. I think.
Speaker 1: I think now he's just kind of his own thing,
Speaker 1: and it's like that's a limitation, you know what I mean.
Speaker 1: Culturally he becomes just his own representation. When I always
Speaker 1: tell you this culture is the is the is the
Speaker 1: is the burden of we, not the burden of meat.
Speaker 1: So it depends on if his WE is correct, if
Speaker 1: his WI is right. So I think I think Cuba
Speaker 1: is capable because I think he desires to still be dope,
Speaker 1: but he also needs to be inspired by the movement
Speaker 1: of WE. If he not inspired by the movement of WE,
Speaker 1: then it's just him by itself. And you know you
Speaker 1: could be So.
Speaker 2: Would you say that probably him limiting his access to
Speaker 2: come around certain people is probably like hindrance to him.
Speaker 1: Yeah, one hundred and seventeen percent. Bro, It's no way
Speaker 1: you could represent WE if you don't have a post
Speaker 1: on WE. Hip hop is weak, you know what I mean?
Speaker 1: Hip hop artists are elected delegates of of of communities.
Speaker 1: There are more communities, Twitter communities and SoundCloud communities, but
Speaker 1: there's still communities. You're the electric delegate of WE, you
Speaker 1: feel me. So he just needs to probably be more
Speaker 1: about WE and figuring out what's up with WE and
Speaker 1: what do we care about? But Cuba is also in
Speaker 1: the weird place where he got money, you know what
Speaker 1: I mean, He's he's been having money for a long time.
Speaker 1: He's fighting different battles, it's different things. So WE is
Speaker 1: not as prominent, like I think very much he your brother,
Speaker 1: but hip hop is street urbst so it is the
Speaker 1: fight of the streets street ship, and I don't think
Speaker 1: that he's rapping.
Speaker 2: He's not rapping up. He's not rapping up about the enemies.
Speaker 4: That whatever enemies he dealing with is not street ship,
Speaker 4: and we can't relate to it, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 4: It's like even and on another note with with with Snoop,
Speaker 4: he was talking about Snoop, you know, missionary album and Dre.
Speaker 4: To me, I was telling Steve, it seemed like Snoop
Speaker 4: was that whole album. He was too busy trying to
Speaker 4: impress Dre. He was trying to make he was trying
Speaker 4: to get Dre's approval on on.
Speaker 2: His on his flows or whatever. Like that's the energy.
Speaker 2: I got it.
Speaker 4: He wasn't saying that necessarily with his lyrics, but I
Speaker 4: could tell, like it didn't seem like he was having fun,
Speaker 4: and it seemed like that was really maybe Dre had
Speaker 4: him doing doing a thousand taps.
Speaker 3: For sure, draper, for sure, Dre produced act.
Speaker 1: That's the one thing like this wasn't a Melon's I
Speaker 1: could tell just listening to the record and even getting
Speaker 1: the energy when I heard Snoop talking about the record.
Speaker 2: To me, I didn't.
Speaker 1: Get oh, you know what, I went in and we
Speaker 1: made a record. I got doctor Dre produced my record
Speaker 1: like I felt like a brand new artist. Like we
Speaker 1: pretty much agreed on the pockets, the flows, the ideas.
Speaker 3: They came to a conclusion.
Speaker 1: It wasn't like, you know this this first ballot Hall
Speaker 1: of Fame. It really got to say something to this coast.
Speaker 1: The coach said, Nah, this is how I wanted to play.
Speaker 1: I don't care about how you want to play the game.
Speaker 1: I don't think that was important for him. It was like,
Speaker 1: this is, hey, I want you to play in the post.
Speaker 1: I don't care if you good at shooting threes. I
Speaker 1: want you to be in a post you feel me.
Speaker 1: So it is Dre's baby to produce. So it's like,
Speaker 1: you know what I mean, And Dreke's in a place where,
Speaker 1: to me, his music is really more musical.
Speaker 3: Than necessarily like thing.
Speaker 1: Then we could say culture like it's not the making
Speaker 1: something out of nothing that hip hop used to be
Speaker 1: or eating brave used you know what I mean. Now,
Speaker 1: it's like the world is at my dispense, Like they
Speaker 1: told a story that made me laugh because it's kind
Speaker 1: of the antisis of hip hop, right, It's like the
Speaker 1: opposite of it where they was working on a song
Speaker 1: and that was like, yeah, you know what, I like
Speaker 1: this last dance. It was like a Wei sung And
Speaker 1: they were saying like how they were able to call
Speaker 1: Tom Petty and Tom Petty sent him all the sessions.
Speaker 2: You know what I'm saying, Like that is crazy.
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying, like, yeah, I want to
Speaker 1: flip this Tom Petty song and somebody, let's get Tom
Speaker 1: on the phone and Tom send you all the parts.
Speaker 1: Your talk is more about like taking the vinyl and
Speaker 1: making the most Tom Petty sending you the pro Tools session.
Speaker 1: That means somebody took that shit from real and put
Speaker 1: it on Pro Tools. You know again, hip hop is
Speaker 1: soul food. It's hard to make it healthy. It's not
Speaker 1: it's not supposed to.
Speaker 3: Being any healthy.
Speaker 1: You know, you're not supposed to, you know, cook spinach
Speaker 1: the way you cook greens. So again, we just have
Speaker 1: to accept the fact that this is not the sole
Speaker 1: food dish that we was looking for and also realize
Speaker 1: the chefs that we come to love ain't cooking for
Speaker 1: just us. No more should they be. That's a whole
Speaker 1: different debate. We're definitely not just cooking for us anymore.
Speaker 2: That's that's my whole point.
Speaker 4: My whole point is is that it seemed like I said,
Speaker 4: it seemed like Snoop was rapping for Dre, and it
Speaker 4: seemed like he was rapping for for Dre's resources or
Speaker 4: for his You know, if if Dre is a billionaire,
Speaker 4: I'm trying to get the billionaire status. So I'm not
Speaker 4: really concerned about what the fans think. I want to
Speaker 4: I want to make I want to please Dre. So
Speaker 4: Drake can turn me onto this is just my personal opinion, speculation, whatever,
Speaker 4: So Drake can turn me onto his billionaire plug so
Speaker 4: I can get to that billionaire boys club.
Speaker 2: That's that's what it seemed like to me. I don't
Speaker 2: want to cut you all. Love talked about the missionary
Speaker 2: last secons, so and I don't want to keep boring.
Speaker 3: We could keep talking.
Speaker 2: It's the West. We know all you talking about talking
Speaker 2: all that he about the way he's calling on here
Speaker 2: for some specific remember what year was that when we
Speaker 2: started doing your shit over at Department two thousand and
Speaker 2: sixteen sixty man, we'll been podcasting ten, probably a year
Speaker 2: before that, fifty twenty fifteen.
Speaker 1: Probably fifteen sixteen, because I think the first one we
Speaker 1: did was at the k SWOSO sixteen in mack Been fifteen.
Speaker 2: Weill been doing this shit for almost ten years though.
Speaker 2: I was just gonna think about that and I trip out.
Speaker 2: Man when I thought about it, I said, damn, this
Speaker 2: is the last episode of twenty twenty four. And it
Speaker 2: was crazy. Man, It's just crazy how fast time goes.
Speaker 2: And that's what I was thinking twenty sixteen, twenty fifteen,
Speaker 2: but I wasn't sure. Damn, man, man, we're best.
Speaker 1: Less the word.
Speaker 2: I wouldn't never imagine cam doing this ship dog that.
Speaker 2: It was kind of coming this far dog.
Speaker 3: Back Commissionary.
Speaker 2: So see Teezy for prout like an hour already. Know,
Speaker 2: so it's bro, you know what I want?
Speaker 1: You know what since his twenty twenty four and you
Speaker 1: make a great point in it. This is the last
Speaker 1: episode against the rare chronicles for this for the year.
Speaker 1: I really want to give a kudos to the ll
Speaker 1: cool j Q tip record.
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's why I told cam El was busting on that.
Speaker 1: To me, it's not just about busting And I can't
Speaker 1: get still to understand it.
Speaker 2: It's fully got with, but still is a ny seed.
Speaker 3: Bro Still is such MC that he really think he mattered.
Speaker 1: If Still could get it off Cam, he wouldn't even have.
Speaker 3: Beats on the motherfuck it be just him.
Speaker 1: He'd just be kicking raps this ship with no beats music.
Speaker 1: That means Q Tip had to do an incredible job
Speaker 1: to make it work. Like it's a great project again,
Speaker 1: I think, like I said, it just making the album.
Speaker 1: We've been spoiled for years, you know what I mean.
Speaker 1: Everything don't gotta work out. Everything don't gotta be something
Speaker 1: everybody likes, like even Stoop and dra like they've spent
Speaker 1: their whole career. Yo, seven out of ten things, everybody
Speaker 1: like eight out of ten things, everybody like. Well, sometimes
Speaker 1: everybody ain't gonna like.
Speaker 3: It, you know what I mean.
Speaker 1: So I hope, God willing, they don't just stop doing
Speaker 1: it and they go back in the studio. I don't
Speaker 1: want Q to stop rapping. I want Q to get inspired,
Speaker 1: get with a producer and go get to it. I
Speaker 1: want Stoop and Dray to double back. I want them
Speaker 1: to say, Okay, let's look at what we liked about.
Speaker 1: How people responded if that matters to them, Hey, how
Speaker 1: do people respond?
Speaker 2: What do they like?
Speaker 1: What's working, what's not working? And double back again, just
Speaker 1: like them Legends and rocking road to it. I think
Speaker 1: that's the task that they're on, and they on a
Speaker 1: challenging task, you know what I mean? To take hip hop,
Speaker 1: take something like hip hop into pop spaces in a
Speaker 1: pop level like Aerosmith had to do. Right, it's a
Speaker 1: different challenge. You'd be uniquely the first person. And for Q,
Speaker 1: it's just about getting inspired. To me again, he's a
Speaker 1: He's a prolific writer. The nigga could write his ass off.
Speaker 1: But now you need to get back to what's going
Speaker 1: to inspire you to be that that nigga that America
Speaker 1: loved to.
Speaker 4: Hate, and it was it was what he wrote about.
Speaker 4: He already gifted, but he had the nuts, He had
Speaker 4: the testicles to write about certain things, even shit that
Speaker 4: I don't agree with, even the West Side Connection shit
Speaker 4: that came after the Death Certificate album when he was conscious,
Speaker 4: but West Side Connection album was fired.
Speaker 2: That shit was banged.
Speaker 3: The shout out to shout out to butter, shout out
Speaker 3: to him on a production.
Speaker 2: But again, like he was inspired by.
Speaker 1: The West kind of coming into its own fully, you
Speaker 1: know what I mean, being not credited correctly by by
Speaker 1: the New York.
Speaker 3: The movement of the West was happening, so I think
Speaker 3: it's up to him to get inspired.
Speaker 2: But well, you we don't understand though he keeps some
Speaker 2: I don't heard Drake say a couple of times that
Speaker 2: he scrapped Detox because it wasn't good. It wasn't good enough.
Speaker 1: Yeah, but that's cool, but.
Speaker 2: It might have been good because I heard that the
Speaker 2: single with Acon, how did that do? How did that fear?
Speaker 2: Commercially maybed okay, But if Drayce said it wasn't good enough,
Speaker 2: I believe that shit was hard. Though I liked that.
Speaker 2: I liked that record. Ye they kind to me that
Speaker 2: sounded like the shit he was supposed to be doing.
Speaker 4: Said it wasn't good enough. I just know for me
Speaker 4: like rap, because I don't really even do hip hop.
Speaker 4: I don't really claim I don't. You know, hip hop
Speaker 4: is a term that was you know, created, I rap,
Speaker 4: I rap.
Speaker 2: I love rap. You know, if that's a part of
Speaker 2: hip hop, been great, but uh, you cam gets to
Speaker 2: be hip hop is the iggity, biggoity. Oh yeah, I
Speaker 2: don't know, man, I don't know the lyrical miracle. That's
Speaker 2: not improbably curious. It's diffic but well wrap, well, rap
Speaker 2: is a chore.
Speaker 4: If rap seems like it's a job, and I gotta
Speaker 4: do a thousand takes in the studio and I got
Speaker 4: to impress another dude instead of impressing me and how
Speaker 4: I feel, then it ain't worth doing no more. Like,
Speaker 4: I don't care how much props or money or fame
Speaker 4: or whatever. Like, I gotta do my own record. I
Speaker 4: gotta do my own stuff. And nobody tell me.
Speaker 2: Shit over you you wouldn't do it, huh if you
Speaker 2: was doing if you was in there right doing some
Speaker 2: work with Drake, and y'all gonna do it five takes
Speaker 2: already in drell. No, I'm not doing more than that. Hey, man,
Speaker 2: I need you to do one more. Nah, I ain't
Speaker 2: doing that.
Speaker 4: I'm gonna say, okay, out of the out of the five, i'may,
Speaker 4: I'm gonna say, save it, don't don't eraise none of
Speaker 4: my ship, save them five takes. And out of them
Speaker 4: five takes, because I wrote it, I live. Did I
Speaker 4: know what this shits supposed to sound like?
Speaker 2: To me? It's not supposed to sound like you wanted
Speaker 2: to sound.
Speaker 4: You know, if I'm too close to the mic and
Speaker 4: I'm spitting something back up, but it's some ship like
Speaker 4: you can't tell me how to deliver my life.
Speaker 1: He's in. It just depends on what the task is. Right,
Speaker 1: If somebody's producing you right, then they're using so you.
Speaker 1: They're taking your lyrical experience right and your story, but
Speaker 1: then they're trying to mess it with sound. It depends
Speaker 1: on like if Pool, Like if Pool gets you in
Speaker 1: there and you say, man, it's ten times and he
Speaker 1: trying to perfect your voice as a sound, not as
Speaker 1: the way as.
Speaker 2: Again an instruments.
Speaker 3: And I think that's what Dre is doing.
Speaker 1: Obviously, when I recorded with him or when he records
Speaker 1: with somebody else, I could tell he's looking for a sonic.
Speaker 1: He's looking for somewhere that he feels like it is
Speaker 1: going to compliment the music. And that's why he you know,
Speaker 1: he's one of the best. That's why he's the greatest
Speaker 1: to do it because he figured that out. But like I,
Speaker 1: you know what's funny, Big Bro. Really feel like I
Speaker 1: appreciate Snoop still being able to learn at this level.
Speaker 1: Now the motivation to learn could be like you said,
Speaker 1: he turning me on a billion dollar plug. Obviously I
Speaker 1: would imagine that could be true. But I also think
Speaker 1: there's something inside the dog. It's one of the things
Speaker 1: that make him the greatest hip hop artist evers because
Speaker 1: he's always like a constant student. He's always a consummate
Speaker 1: learner when it comes to what needs to be done
Speaker 1: and raising his game.
Speaker 3: So I appreciate the challenge of it all.
Speaker 1: And it's the same thing for Dre, like even talking
Speaker 1: to him honestly, like I remember him telling me like
Speaker 1: Snoop wasn't something he chose, that was more Warren it Shug,
Speaker 1: Like Warren pushed him off onto Dog and I mean
Speaker 1: Dre and Dra and Shug was like okay. And then
Speaker 1: Dre told me the story of fifty cent me excuse
Speaker 1: me of Eminem. That wasn't his name, that was Jimmy
Speaker 1: Ivan thing you. I mean, Jimmy was like, I think
Speaker 1: this the work, and he passed it to Dre and
Speaker 1: was like, man, do this, and Dre was like, I
Speaker 1: don't know, and he did it listening to him and
Speaker 1: guess what here is you know, your most successful artist,
Speaker 1: I mean, And then fast forward to fifty cent. That
Speaker 1: was an eminem thing. Hey, you know what you know,
Speaker 1: m wanted Dre to do fifty cent. He's like, man,
Speaker 1: do it with me, and they did it together. So
Speaker 1: I think a lot of the greatest things happen when
Speaker 1: you take on a task that people you trust passed
Speaker 1: to you.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I think it's also I agree, I agree, And
Speaker 4: I think it's also what we see as success. What
Speaker 4: is our idea of success at that stage, you know,
Speaker 4: because they are already successful in fame and money and
Speaker 4: all of that, So now their standard of success is
Speaker 4: probably something we don't know nothing about, you know, Cam,
Speaker 4: I want to go.
Speaker 2: Back to this because I'm laughing. So, but are you
Speaker 2: doing this regular? Let's say Dre is doing detox. He's
Speaker 2: gonna give detax another row and you on there. He
Speaker 2: wants you to do the entro. He wants you to
Speaker 2: sound a certain way. Niggas said, no, be a fire
Speaker 2: to Nah. That's is how absolutely absolutely.
Speaker 4: Like, Nah, I did it my way. This is this
Speaker 4: is Cam, this is what you this is what you
Speaker 4: want it. You know what I'm saying, Maybe if you
Speaker 4: could try to tell me, but that that's like, that's
Speaker 4: like Hollywood shuffle. Can you give me more more jove
Speaker 4: ass more somebody else, like Nigga, this is me, This
Speaker 4: is all you're gonna get.
Speaker 2: Cam is cam like, this is what you're gonna get.
Speaker 2: Maybe you need somebody the other tape, Glass is definitely
Speaker 2: do the other tape. I already did it. I think
Speaker 2: I'm gonna dot jurkick writ the first time. So he
Speaker 2: takes together, Uh not none of the hundreds or twenties
Speaker 2: day you talking about. But I probably did something in
Speaker 2: seven times, but there was other times he took it
Speaker 2: on the first tape, but more than seven times at
Speaker 2: your house.
Speaker 1: Oh that's a fact, you But but you choosing versus
Speaker 1: me telling you, right because I believe now I need
Speaker 1: to do that again, right because I believe I.
Speaker 2: Know how I want to sound, not how you want
Speaker 2: me to sound. But I'm all so not producing you.
Speaker 1: So it's like it's different like if I'm gonna work
Speaker 1: with obviously when I if I'm working with Doc, then
Speaker 1: I'm gonna let Doc produce me, because that's why I
Speaker 1: went down there to mess with you, you know what
Speaker 1: I'm saying. So like, but if I am producing somebody
Speaker 1: like I do, I'm obviously not got to dre but shit,
Speaker 1: I didn't made Joey and Duce go in there and
Speaker 1: rewrite something and hey, flip this, change this, do this
Speaker 1: because I'm making a record.
Speaker 2: So I think you have to. And I'm thinking that
Speaker 2: for these guys, says that that's what the music turn out.
Speaker 2: The way you do.
Speaker 4: That's something different. I'm not talking about changing lyrics. I'm
Speaker 4: open to changing lyrics.
Speaker 2: No, I'm not even talking about the change lyrics.
Speaker 1: I'm talking about have had them rewrap something because like sonically,
Speaker 1: I feel.
Speaker 3: Like it loses energy.
Speaker 1: I mean, as I become more of a producer, like
Speaker 1: I notice things like like small things like oh you
Speaker 1: know what you laid this verse, but okay, I need
Speaker 1: you to say the hook, you know, coming in and
Speaker 1: going out, or hey repeat this kind of match this
Speaker 1: energy right here, this that and the third you know
Speaker 1: what I mean. So I could get where his methodical
Speaker 1: mind would go, you know what I mean, really pursuing
Speaker 1: something that he feels is capable. He could hear the sonic.
Speaker 1: So I don't think he does it to be like
Speaker 1: disingenuous though, you know what I mean. I don't think
Speaker 1: he's like, oh I'm just doctor Dre, let me throw
Speaker 1: my weight around as much as he's really pursuing something
Speaker 1: that he hears in his mind.
Speaker 4: Anyway, pretty excellent. I'm already excellently me. So if I'm
Speaker 4: already me. You know how many people you know stutter
Speaker 4: or got a list or off beat or whatever. That's
Speaker 4: just them, that's who they are. Just just just make
Speaker 4: my my fuck ups sound good. That just just just
Speaker 4: eq it in a way that that's cam he wraps
Speaker 4: off bead or he his voice is cracking, or you know,
Speaker 4: that's what I mean.
Speaker 2: It just depends.
Speaker 1: It depends if you want to be produced. I mean,
Speaker 1: you've been in the business long enough, big bro, to
Speaker 1: where you probably know where and how you want it.
Speaker 1: But again, if if you wouldn't work with for real timbling,
Speaker 1: like especially for real Forrella, give you a flow, hey,
Speaker 1: wrap this flow, I mean, or Dre will be like
Speaker 1: he'd be looking to me where he's really Again I
Speaker 1: never asked him what the thought is, but I would
Speaker 1: imagine now with my knowledge and information, even though I'm
Speaker 1: nowhere near with cousins at my mind is like he's
Speaker 1: chasing a specific sonic to where when it's time to mix,
Speaker 1: like it's right where he wants it a lot closer
Speaker 1: even listening to a Missionary, which everybody should go stream.
Speaker 1: I think it's a great record, and I think it
Speaker 1: gets better if you listen to it. It's getting better.
Speaker 1: It's a good album for where they at, but it
Speaker 1: gets better. But it's really busy, like it does a lot.
Speaker 1: It's a lot to pick up, right, you know what
Speaker 1: I mean? You have to walk If you walk into
Speaker 1: it thinking you're gonna get snooping dre from nineteen ninety two,
Speaker 1: you are going to come out very not getting what
Speaker 1: you look for.
Speaker 4: So the Cam and Cat Cam and Battlecat album that
Speaker 4: was inspired by Glasses, Glasses the one putting me in
Speaker 4: battle Cat together like just for the world. You know,
Speaker 4: all any records that you hear and the album that's
Speaker 4: the songs that still not release.
Speaker 2: You know, Glasses the one.
Speaker 4: You know, I give him this public credit and there's
Speaker 4: no secret he the one that put that together right
Speaker 4: and Battlecat knew you know what I'm saying. You know
Speaker 4: he knows what he wants to hear too. But then
Speaker 4: you know he knows the respect. You know, we Cam,
Speaker 4: this is what you want to hear, and maybe you
Speaker 4: can say, try to say this like this and this
Speaker 4: like that, but he gonna you know, it's it's like
Speaker 4: he gonna he gonna bring his expertise to the table
Speaker 4: and even if I disagree with it, I'm gonna trust
Speaker 4: his what he do, and he gonna trust what I do.
Speaker 2: So it's not a chore. It feels good.
Speaker 4: It's fun to me if you tell me to do
Speaker 4: something over and over and over again, like it's not fun.
Speaker 4: No more like Nigga, I don't feel like doing that now.
Speaker 4: Music is a vibe. It's a spirit. Now my spirit
Speaker 4: is on some other ship like Nigga. Like I'm not
Speaker 4: say I already said it, like you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 2: See that.
Speaker 1: You know what's funny? Still tell me what's crazy? Tell
Speaker 1: me some of the stories where he was working with Bob.
Speaker 2: What was that like? Man? You know what those dudes
Speaker 2: are definitely perfectionist what it was with Bob? Shout out
Speaker 2: to DJ Bobcat.
Speaker 1: DJ Bobcat did to anybody who listens to gangst Rap chronicles.
Speaker 3: Obviously you heard I'm Bad ll Cooj the Bad album.
Speaker 1: You heard back ten Backyard Boogie, you heard Tupac Strictly
Speaker 1: DJ Bobcat is one of those very you know, not
Speaker 1: spoken about, but prolific producers look him up and still
Speaker 1: used to work with DJ Bobcat when he was a
Speaker 1: fresh rapper, and Bobcat told me stories of how he
Speaker 1: almost traumatized still in the studio.
Speaker 2: Yeah, you know what, man, I used to go outside
Speaker 2: and smash forty bottles sometimes, being so mad at Bob
Speaker 2: because first he had you do a Megan Jason. You
Speaker 2: don't even know if you gonna be on the song
Speaker 2: because it would be like four birth slots and you
Speaker 2: have ras casts coming through there. They have exhibited coming
Speaker 2: through the east. When he's catch was like, oh everybody
Speaker 2: on there. You might spend all night writing the verse
Speaker 2: he you think you sung because he don't give you
Speaker 2: a little snipper of the beat on the tape. And
Speaker 2: you go do it, man, you go doing it. You're
Speaker 2: doing all this hard work and you going in and
Speaker 2: bus if you think it's perfect. Next thing, you know,
Speaker 2: they could pan on them and you might make the
Speaker 2: first cut, but then they may move you around a
Speaker 2: little bit then say well I don't like the way
Speaker 2: you do right there. You know you had to do stuff.
Speaker 2: They had to be perfect Dog. It was different Ladiator School,
Speaker 2: so yeah, well they weren't.
Speaker 1: I always liked the challenge of it, but I think
Speaker 1: also because I didn't grow up wanting to be a rapper,
Speaker 1: So it was dope to have somebody take an interest
Speaker 1: even to this day, Like I love when, like you know,
Speaker 1: like when I could get somebody else's critigue on a record,
Speaker 1: especially somebody who you know, like who's been around, like
Speaker 1: iced T and too Short of some of my favorite
Speaker 1: to let hear what I'm doing, you know what I mean,
Speaker 1: Because I feel like they culturally represent they almost like
Speaker 1: they're like me where they're you know, like it's only
Speaker 1: so many rappers there who they are on and off
Speaker 1: the mic, you know what I mean. Like it's no different.
Speaker 1: So I like it, you know what I mean. But
Speaker 1: like I think it depends on what you like it.
Speaker 1: But back to the ll C JQ Tip record that
Speaker 1: was before GNX came out. That was my favorite album
Speaker 1: this year.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I ain't hurt. I gotta check that out. It's dope,
Speaker 2: you know what I mean.
Speaker 3: It's it's dope.
Speaker 1: I thought LLL went to Town and it's it's dope
Speaker 1: to watch somebody who came out of nineteen eighty four,
Speaker 1: dropping an album in twenty twenty four, and they still
Speaker 1: handling you feel me, They still getting cracking, They still
Speaker 1: making it work.
Speaker 2: I really like that a lot.
Speaker 4: I like, I like just to circle back on the
Speaker 4: missionary and we can get off of that. I like
Speaker 4: Snoop is busting. Snoop Snoop Rapper, he bust, He wrapping
Speaker 4: his ass off, right, you know what I'm saying. And
Speaker 4: I'm talking about like like like high energy. You know
Speaker 4: what I'm saying. You know, busical however you want to
Speaker 4: he giving you all kind of different flavors and styles.
Speaker 4: It's just like I said, it's just to me. Yeah,
Speaker 4: the music didn't live.
Speaker 2: One is I was.
Speaker 1: I was arguing with some homies problem in them, and
Speaker 1: I'm like, see, they want me to say the music
Speaker 1: is that.
Speaker 3: I'm like, no, the music is not bad. The music
Speaker 3: is actually good. But that is the problem is that
Speaker 3: Tom Petty song sound like something Tom Petty could sing
Speaker 3: on today. You know what I mean.
Speaker 1: The Sting songs sound like something Sting could sing on today.
Speaker 2: And it's that's weird. For a dog.
Speaker 1: There was always especially the dre and Dog, even when
Speaker 1: they would flip classical ideas like you know, uh axle ride,
Speaker 1: you know the edge, you know what I mean.
Speaker 3: They would flip you know, no doubt to.
Speaker 2: Make that dum.
Speaker 1: Don't uh, don't forget about Dre right, no doubt the cline,
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying. And to have Snoop like
Speaker 1: it was dope, they would still put he would still
Speaker 1: put this level of grittiness to it, and and this
Speaker 1: this unh in it, and that unh is different now
Speaker 1: because this motherfucker could.
Speaker 3: Play the piano.
Speaker 1: He like, it's like, no, fuck that, let's get sting
Speaker 1: up in here to play hold up, you know what
Speaker 1: I mean. Like, so again people want me to be
Speaker 1: harshly critical over what Dre is doing. Is like I'd
Speaker 1: probably be doing the same thing if I had access
Speaker 1: to Michael Jackson.
Speaker 3: It might come sing this sok.
Speaker 2: But it ain't street.
Speaker 1: It's not that's but that's the point. Yeah it's not street.
Speaker 1: But again, yeah it's not streeted all. But Snoop is
Speaker 1: saying street ship. Snoop is saying street ship, but the
Speaker 1: music ain't street.
Speaker 2: And that's what I agree now to.
Speaker 1: Me, that's the you know, that's where it's kind of different.
Speaker 1: You know what I mean, It's like, yeah, it's like
Speaker 1: and Snoop was on the sting song. I don't know
Speaker 1: if I really you know what I mean?
Speaker 4: After it sound like it's not like a gang of
Speaker 4: features of him being on other artists and shit like
Speaker 4: that might be on a different genre.
Speaker 1: But to be honest, the more I listen to it,
Speaker 1: it's growing on me and maybe I'm giving it more
Speaker 1: chances because it is Sloop and dre Cube to me
Speaker 1: back to man down, It's just really, I really didn't
Speaker 1: care about the production, Like this is kind of one
Speaker 1: of the first times I don't think I cared about
Speaker 1: a que produce, a produced like a record that that
Speaker 1: Q did with the beats like normally, like you know,
Speaker 1: even you know the policies and the you know, the
Speaker 1: last era of Q records. It was like, I still
Speaker 1: like the music, even if I wanted to be critical
Speaker 1: over where he was writing at or how inspired he
Speaker 1: was as a writer. But this is the first war
Speaker 1: of production. I'm like, I don't really care about the production,
Speaker 1: and that is kind of what made me be like,
Speaker 1: ye ain't trip and I'll come back to it when
Speaker 1: I get some time.
Speaker 2: So I bet you if he said.
Speaker 3: In the studio with me, I pushed his ass, he'd
Speaker 3: be saying some shit.
Speaker 2: I mean, if it was a fear of where I'll
Speaker 2: be drunk too. Shit. You think that's going on? Man?
Speaker 2: When I used to have them session, when we do
Speaker 2: that stuff for Bobcat, Jay Stink and all of them
Speaker 2: dudes in the studio, Man, it was different, Dog, You
Speaker 2: actually had to have your shit tight. Dog. It was perfection,
Speaker 2: even you know, certain breathing on them like camp. You
Speaker 2: know what I'm told about, Like on a word, you
Speaker 2: might have to say a word fifty times and there
Speaker 2: wasn't no punching back then. They wanted that one word
Speaker 2: to be perfect. Yep. It had to be perfect. And
Speaker 2: it wasn't no thing like to day to where you
Speaker 2: go to have a track when you go do the
Speaker 2: stuff live, to where you got the track playing in
Speaker 2: the background. You had to sound on stage like you
Speaker 2: dial the record. Man, I don't know what the hell
Speaker 2: like I saw T Grizzly kind of when he had
Speaker 2: this coming out moment remembering that song got real big
Speaker 2: and he starts, you could tell he had never did
Speaker 2: shows because he was just on stage standing around Dog
Speaker 2: and the music was just playing. He was just up
Speaker 2: there kind of had a bop, just up there, did
Speaker 2: he bob? And I'm like, is he a rapper? Is
Speaker 2: he just up there walking around? I blame I blame myself.
Speaker 1: I'm definitely the first generations of people who didn't grow
Speaker 1: up wanting to be a rapper, studying rappers fucking it up,
Speaker 1: you know what I mean. So I do take accountability.
Speaker 1: I had no really understanding about hip hop or desire
Speaker 1: about it or nothing, you know what I mean. Now
Speaker 1: I look back, I'm like, Damn, this shit gave me
Speaker 1: way too much for me not to know to not
Speaker 1: have more respect for what was happening. I mean versus
Speaker 1: if you see a rap, like, if you grew up
Speaker 1: wanting to be a rapper, you're looking at rappers to
Speaker 1: understand certain ways to carry yourself, certain ways to present yourself,
Speaker 1: a million other things. I didn't have that. I was
Speaker 1: really a product of me and cam section. It was
Speaker 1: just like, yeah, this is yeah, this is really the culture.
Speaker 1: This ain't the artistic version of it.
Speaker 2: Hip hop. Hip hop kind of shoeses the rappers. Rappers
Speaker 2: don't choose to get like I really think rap shoes
Speaker 2: people though, because I've known people that great at what
Speaker 2: they do. It never came nowhere close to releasing the record.
Speaker 2: Bro talk about dudes who were very very too dope
Speaker 2: man like had everything, man, but they just diver got
Speaker 2: that shuf.
Speaker 3: I'm really mad. I really want Kad to release that camera,
Speaker 3: that that cat and camera, because that record is great.
Speaker 2: I think.
Speaker 3: You know what's funny, man.
Speaker 2: Got it?
Speaker 1: You gotta get back to just wanting to put out
Speaker 1: something so people can hear it.
Speaker 2: Dope starting to cut you off. Glasses still feels political
Speaker 2: as hell. You think he might have been mad for
Speaker 2: some You think it might be some of the things
Speaker 2: you said about snoop cam that might be making an
Speaker 2: old onto it a little bit.
Speaker 4: Nah Nah, I mean, I don't know what they what
Speaker 4: they're doing now. But ain't nobody really holding on to
Speaker 4: it like that? Because I could put it out if
Speaker 4: I want. I just don't want to waste it. I
Speaker 4: don't want to waste and I don't even know how
Speaker 4: to put it out like that, Like Glasses be trying
Speaker 4: to show me or whatever, But uh, I just didn't,
Speaker 4: you know, because the stuff already leaked out.
Speaker 3: You know what I'm saying, Glasses, we got it, I
Speaker 3: would be honest, you know what I mean.
Speaker 1: My goal with them was for them to do three
Speaker 1: records over three different albums, you know what I mean, Like,
Speaker 1: I feel like we should have a people to me
Speaker 1: who battle Cats sound marked kind of their era in
Speaker 1: my life, Cam is one of the earliest, right, Corrupt
Speaker 1: is one of the next. And uh, it was somebody
Speaker 1: else that I had in mind. But I wanted him
Speaker 1: to put out a series with these guys just show
Speaker 1: because battle Cats still unbelieved. This nigga is still unvol like,
Speaker 1: he's still just the culture uncut raw. He'd get in
Speaker 1: front of that ship and go. So I put him
Speaker 1: take care.
Speaker 2: But as far as to me, Dre should be fucking
Speaker 2: with him more.
Speaker 3: Yeah, but Dre is on a different wine.
Speaker 1: Bro J got a lot of money and he escaped
Speaker 1: a lot of shit.
Speaker 2: He escaped a lot of shit that.
Speaker 3: He could have been held account before.
Speaker 1: And it didn't that Nigga told me like, man, don't
Speaker 1: get me in no shit though I'm like, Nigga, of
Speaker 1: course I will get you and some shit. That's why
Speaker 1: I'm not up that if he don't fuckle with me,
Speaker 1: like if he don't come like have me in the
Speaker 1: studio or have me or I get why I'm not
Speaker 1: upset at that.
Speaker 2: I'm like cause one thing I am is the culture.
Speaker 2: No matter what level of intellect and whatever.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm still this little wise counter, little nigga that
Speaker 1: ain't gonna change you. Feel me so like I have
Speaker 1: found a pride in it, in a sense of responsible
Speaker 1: and belonging that could frighten, could make Dre me look
Speaker 1: like this, that could make me lose it all, even
Speaker 1: though to me that's crazy. But I get why he
Speaker 1: thinks that. But I think Dre is moving away from
Speaker 1: this and moving to wherever he wants to go. And
Speaker 1: I'm not trying to hold him back. I'm not trying
Speaker 1: to pull him back. Hey, bro, if you've been doing
Speaker 1: this for forty years, this is what I was arguing
Speaker 1: with problem in the homies about they talking about he
Speaker 1: didn't put this new artist. Man, I don't give a
Speaker 1: fuck who Drey got rabbit for him.
Speaker 2: That shit over.
Speaker 1: Let this man set sell that nigga can start making
Speaker 1: yacht rock if he want. It's up to us now
Speaker 1: to finish the job, to keep it going. It's up
Speaker 1: to the Kendrick Lamars to put new artists on. It's
Speaker 1: up to the till of the creators. It's up to
Speaker 1: the glasses and lungs, the problems, the rembles, the mustards.
Speaker 1: Why geez, this our job? Now this are you still
Speaker 1: want the older homie to get in the car and
Speaker 1: go put in work. Get your ass out of here.
Speaker 1: Bro Oh, Denny's go do something else, you know. I
Speaker 1: mean I would never want go call my older homies
Speaker 1: to go do nothing no more.
Speaker 2: You know what, though, I see I used to always
Speaker 2: wonder why guy is greatest and hundred three thousand wasn't
Speaker 2: a record no more. But I feel what he said.
Speaker 2: He says, Man, what am I'm gonna talk about? Like?
Speaker 2: What am I going to do?
Speaker 1: It's like I used to always tell you the day
Speaker 1: you lose your thorns, it's over. Andre said, the South
Speaker 1: has something to say. He was trying to save me
Speaker 1: there to say. Now everybody listen, He's like, job is done.
Speaker 2: But somebody like Cam the motherfuckers is still pointing out
Speaker 2: you grab whole help. Yeah, it ain't never it ain't
Speaker 2: never over with me. I got a question for y'all, like,
Speaker 2: because the quality of certain.
Speaker 4: Lyrics like we was talking about earlier, red Man or
Speaker 4: or this and that or qube or whatever.
Speaker 2: One thing that when when I was coming up, I didn't.
Speaker 4: I didn't never used to write rhymes in the studio
Speaker 4: with niggas, Like I would write rhymes at home and
Speaker 4: I had a beat or whatever and I'm able to
Speaker 4: think about it or whatever. But do you think that
Speaker 4: takes away from the potential quality if you're under pressure
Speaker 4: to come up with something right there because it's posing
Speaker 4: cons of writing in the studio with with other dudes
Speaker 4: or whatever, because it's gonna it's gonna make you step
Speaker 4: your game up, but it's gonna rush you.
Speaker 1: At the same time, craft develop as a writer, learn
Speaker 1: more about record riding in general.
Speaker 3: You know what makes it special.
Speaker 1: So now it's like basketball, Like yeah, when you fresh
Speaker 1: on the court, you feel me you could jump out
Speaker 1: the gym, you could dunk on a nigga reseas and
Speaker 1: all that. But I'm one of them niggas, man, I
Speaker 1: ain't got so many different skills over the time that
Speaker 1: it don't matter if I'm in the studio, I take
Speaker 1: it home. I gotta go to game that you can
Speaker 1: put me writing a post. I'm one of them last
Speaker 1: niggas like Kareem, I give a nigga this hook shot
Speaker 1: all night. This thing ain't gonna never dry up. Feel me,
Speaker 1: I got enough plays to where as a writer like
Speaker 1: I'll figure out a way.
Speaker 2: To approach it.
Speaker 1: Open clothes, climax, every verse, just skill set, so I
Speaker 1: don't need to feel. The feeling is when I'm starting
Speaker 1: to talk about what I'm talking about, and I always.
Speaker 2: Stay invested in the culture. So what do I like?
Speaker 1: I used to like going home, but now it's more
Speaker 1: like whatever the job is. If the job is like
Speaker 1: Tupac months died, Like when I came up with that,
Speaker 1: Like I was in the studio, I was trying to
Speaker 1: come up with it and happened. I was in the
Speaker 1: shower two days later and I just came up with
Speaker 1: the whole thing in the dollar.
Speaker 2: That's when the inspirational issues sometimes to teach you in
Speaker 2: the hottest places. I remember I was thinking about this
Speaker 2: one song I was working on. The beat was so knocking, man,
Speaker 2: I want to do the record, but couldn't think of
Speaker 2: what to do on it. I was getting on the
Speaker 2: plane to go to London, man, and everything just kind
Speaker 2: of hit me. When I was an airport, didn't know
Speaker 2: where it came from, just kind of hit me, and
Speaker 2: I said on the plane ride it kind of wrote
Speaker 2: that song down. Man, jotted it down on the back
Speaker 2: of the you know how to get the little instruction
Speaker 2: books a little stretch, so how to you know, handle
Speaker 2: of the flotation device and all that stuff. I wrote
Speaker 2: the whole rap. It was in pieces on the back
Speaker 2: of that car, and I took that and finished it up. Yeah.
Speaker 1: So me, it's like, you know, I don't really have
Speaker 1: a preference, but I'll tell you one thing. If we
Speaker 1: need a bucket, you just put me in a post.
Speaker 1: I'm gonna hook that drop that up right there. I
Speaker 1: got a hoodshot for the nigga. It don't matter how
Speaker 1: tired I am, So I guess whatever you take.
Speaker 3: You know what I mean.
Speaker 1: When it's my record, I'll come up with a right
Speaker 1: on the spot. Sometimes shit, I'll just wait till I
Speaker 1: got something better.
Speaker 4: But it would depend on who's in the studio, Like
Speaker 4: if it's if it's name Gran his big names in
Speaker 4: the studio.
Speaker 2: Are you trying to break the back border?
Speaker 3: What that nigga?
Speaker 2: Just say that.
Speaker 1: That's to be where I carved out what I do
Speaker 1: culturally as a hip hop watters. Now, I don't know
Speaker 1: exactly how to say certain things that make people be like,
Speaker 1: who is that guy?
Speaker 2: Yeah, I definitely think it's important, though, Cam sometimes to
Speaker 2: dump on some niggas and remind niggas break the backboard
Speaker 2: in the ass fan. It's then when they ask real quick,
Speaker 2: but she's two hours, man, I don't like doing that.
Speaker 2: The goals for the New Year? What's that New Year's resolutions?
Speaker 2: That should always thought that shit was kind of like
Speaker 2: if you go do something, just to do it, you know.
Speaker 2: I just want y'all always to stay safe out there,
Speaker 2: be responsible.
Speaker 3: When is this?
Speaker 2: When does this come out? This come out tomorrow? Dogs
Speaker 2: come out the real times. We got three o'clock this morning,
Speaker 2: Sab you need to drop a New Year's one, you
Speaker 2: slip you know what?
Speaker 1: We all need to do a digital soap box live.
Speaker 2: Yeah, let's do it. I'm doing when we could do that,
Speaker 2: but hey, we go playing those off the record. Man,
Speaker 2: y'all have a happy New Year. We got there. We
Speaker 2: go do it. We go do a digital byes live though,
Speaker 2: see that you know, information coming in and we out
Speaker 2: of here.
Speaker 3: Please m