WEBVTT - Welfare Queen (with Blakely Thornton)

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<v Speaker 1>I just want to I just want to, like ask

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<v Speaker 1>a white chef, like, is this grass fed beef every day?

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<v Speaker 1>Was that a really staying face that I'm really at

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<v Speaker 1>having white domestics. I think that needs to Like.

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<v Speaker 2>I was just talking to my girl about that.

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<v Speaker 3>I'm into that too.

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<v Speaker 2>I love a white domestic.

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<v Speaker 4>But you know, the problem was or the funny thing

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<v Speaker 4>about having a white cleaning lady.

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<v Speaker 2>As soon as I was, I was out on her.

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<v Speaker 4>As soon as she became too extra, I was like,

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<v Speaker 4>get out of here, Diane, get out. She telling me

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<v Speaker 4>about her life and ship chips in.

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<v Speaker 5>Your bears are racists.

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<v Speaker 2>The money's turkey stuff. I can't tell me.

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<v Speaker 4>Guess who's back. Guess who's back. Guess who's back. I'm

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<v Speaker 4>trying to be welcome back catter.

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<v Speaker 3>And then in the.

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<v Speaker 4>Middle it me we started at the hardest part, the

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<v Speaker 4>hardest part, and then I was like, I don't have

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<v Speaker 4>a way out of that. And I was like, if

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<v Speaker 4>you just are casual over it, ultimately maybe they'll think if.

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<v Speaker 2>You had so little enthusiasm for it that I thought

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<v Speaker 2>maybe you had something had gone wrong.

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<v Speaker 4>So yeah, I was short. You know what it is,

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<v Speaker 4>that's me panicking. I was panicking just there.

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<v Speaker 3>You saw it.

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<v Speaker 2>You thought you could outcool the mistake.

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<v Speaker 4>Exactly because I started saying, guess who's back, and I

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<v Speaker 4>was like, fuck, it's welcome back. And then I was

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<v Speaker 4>thinking about that Scarface song and I was like, maybe

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<v Speaker 4>maybe if I'm chill, they'll think it's that.

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<v Speaker 2>And then I went for.

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<v Speaker 4>Total transparency with you, and I now feel no, frankly,

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<v Speaker 4>this is not how we start our episode. No, you

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<v Speaker 4>still have a chance.

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<v Speaker 2>Go ahead, kick off our normal language so that we

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<v Speaker 2>can start this normally. Okay, yeah, okay, did you get a.

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<v Speaker 3>I'm going to start with a new song, a different song.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, or the right just like I'm starting. Okay, here

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<v Speaker 2>we go. It's all you big dog. Guess who's bizack?

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<v Speaker 2>Guess who's bizach.

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<v Speaker 4>Welcome little Mama's and gentiles alike to another phenomenal episode

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<v Speaker 4>of My Mama Told Me.

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<v Speaker 2>The podcast where we dive deep, deep into the pockets

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<v Speaker 2>of black conspiracy theories.

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<v Speaker 4>And we finally worked to prove nothing. We don't give

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<v Speaker 4>a shit about you. We're just trying to get rich.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, man, there's no goal here. Yeah, there's capitalism.

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<v Speaker 4>Capitalism is the goal. Yeah, we find no flag this

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<v Speaker 4>is zero. Yeah, exactly exactly. I'm playing to die.

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<v Speaker 2>Prepare statement, you, prepare to statement, Prepare to statement. Here

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<v Speaker 2>we go. This is exciting.

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<v Speaker 4>Dear young millennial black man who listened to the new

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<v Speaker 4>Clips album and felt nothing, that's okay, You're okay. It's

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<v Speaker 4>okay to not love the Clips as much as you

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<v Speaker 4>did in the eleventh grade.

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<v Speaker 2>You're fine.

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<v Speaker 4>Fandom is a relationship, and sometimes in long term relationships

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<v Speaker 4>people drift apart. So cherish the good times that you

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<v Speaker 4>had with the Clips and know now much like the

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<v Speaker 4>three excel Rocke word t shirt you used to rap

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<v Speaker 4>to listen to them, the relationship is ill fitting.

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<v Speaker 3>It's time to die. You don't care about cocaine that much?

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<v Speaker 2>WHOA well?

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<v Speaker 1>I do, and I love the New Clips album. Thank

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<v Speaker 1>you very much. Hard disagree, brother.

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<v Speaker 2>I wasn't talking to him. I said to the man

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<v Speaker 2>who well, I said to the man who felt nothing,

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<v Speaker 2>you're wrong. You're listening around you know what hearing to me?

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<v Speaker 2>I put it on.

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<v Speaker 3>I went back and just listened to Virginia. I didn't

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<v Speaker 3>even like.

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<v Speaker 4>I listened to the first song, Yeah, I was like,

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<v Speaker 4>phys is cool, and then I listened I got like

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<v Speaker 4>five or six because it's not a very long album, right,

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<v Speaker 4>it's not an hour. I got like five or six

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<v Speaker 4>in and I was like, no, it ain't shent to do,

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<v Speaker 4>but cook that's what I want right now.

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<v Speaker 3>I don't want the new stuff at all. I don't

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<v Speaker 3>even feel bad about it, damn.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah. And I loved the clips. I liked it, man,

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<v Speaker 2>I was I was really how many to do it?

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<v Speaker 2>I've only listened to it like one and a half times. Okay,

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<v Speaker 2>I'm not giving it three Three is good. Three.

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<v Speaker 4>Here's the thing I'm not saying I hated it. I

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<v Speaker 4>just didn't feel it. Just didn't feel no way.

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<v Speaker 1>What was the last time you felt something about an album?

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<v Speaker 4>This might be a new problem, Virginia.

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<v Speaker 2>You know what it was. You know what it was

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<v Speaker 2>for me? Is there there was something really nice in

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<v Speaker 2>the fact that Malice is here doing it, and you know,

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<v Speaker 2>after pushing says some wow sh he'd be like, brother,

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<v Speaker 2>we gotta pray on it. Yeah, this is he's still

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<v Speaker 2>struggling with the conflict in his head. Yeah, he loves

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<v Speaker 2>the Lord, but he also loves cocaine, and he got

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<v Speaker 2>to talk about both of those things.

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<v Speaker 4>I will say he is striking my balance well, because

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<v Speaker 4>at the end of him rapping, you could feel he

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<v Speaker 4>was on his way out right. Yeah, what's that that

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<v Speaker 4>Popeye song? I was just he was just saying, like Bible.

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<v Speaker 4>I remember listening to.

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<v Speaker 2>Not you know you know, but you know Push your

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<v Speaker 2>T wrote the McDonald's song.

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<v Speaker 3>I do know that.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm loving it really Push your Tea with Forrell though, right,

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<v Speaker 2>I don't don't know, but it's just timber, like a

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<v Speaker 2>full single.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, McDonald's it was.

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<v Speaker 2>It was a full set condemned that Push your T wrote. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>it's not just that line. There's a whole R and

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<v Speaker 2>B song like circle, like two thousand. I didn't remember that.

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<v Speaker 2>That's amazing. Yeah, that's good. I liked it was It

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<v Speaker 2>was the best jingle I've ever heard of, like jingle

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<v Speaker 2>song jingle number one, yeah, number one of all times.

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<v Speaker 2>It's not a good song, it's like a top jingle.

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<v Speaker 2>It's like shingle.

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<v Speaker 1>It's an album filler, but it's like a it's like

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<v Speaker 1>a Yeah, that's okay, the best song on an album.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, of twelve songs. I want to be clear, I

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<v Speaker 2>keep intro music for television shows separate from jingles. Oh,

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<v Speaker 2>you have to yeah, because that's not I just don't

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<v Speaker 2>want any confusion. We're mixing the two because I stand

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<v Speaker 2>on Golden Girls being the finest song ever written. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>thank you for being a friend that goes.

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<v Speaker 1>I like it.

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<v Speaker 2>I love I love It's a rare condition I do.

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<v Speaker 2>I love both. I love that you're putting me in

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<v Speaker 2>a nasty Sophie's choice.

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<v Speaker 3>You know who had nobody ever talks about hard for

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<v Speaker 3>white shows? Is?

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<v Speaker 4>What's that show with Kirk Cameron and Robin I like that?

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<v Speaker 3>So that one.

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<v Speaker 6>There you go, I don't know it was yours?

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<v Speaker 2>Yes, no, that's not who that fuck that is? That

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<v Speaker 2>is good. This is great.

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<v Speaker 4>That ship was funny because it was just like one

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<v Speaker 4>if the Italian guys did women's work clean.

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<v Speaker 2>This is crazy names to clean. That's really it's amazing

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<v Speaker 2>what you used to be able to make into television. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>they like you ain't got a third premise on this? No,

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<v Speaker 2>what are you saying about that? Nothing? Yeah, I'm tired clean.

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<v Speaker 2>And at some point they'll start sucking.

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<v Speaker 1>And they get married and they go to Disneyland and

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<v Speaker 1>somebody has drugs at some point, special drugs. I think

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<v Speaker 1>in every eighties come like at one season, Someone's offer

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<v Speaker 1>marijuana by a guy who flat. It's a very special episode.

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<v Speaker 2>In those older years, the Lista Milano started doing this

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<v Speaker 2>somebody that drank a a party.

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<v Speaker 4>I thought it would have been the sexy grandma who

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<v Speaker 4>was doing the on that show.

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<v Speaker 2>I think, I think, I bet it was a Lissa

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<v Speaker 2>Milano got drunk at a party, and I bet the

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<v Speaker 2>old sexy grandma was like, honey, it's fine. I used

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<v Speaker 2>to do cocaine. I think she was such a.

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<v Speaker 7>Honey, yeah exactly, Yeah, wrong, honey, I used to shoot

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<v Speaker 7>a black tar exactly.

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<v Speaker 2>You just got hair off of Rick James's day. Have

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<v Speaker 2>you died? You know how many times I've seen Debbie

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<v Speaker 2>Harry's asshole that I like. I Sawanka Jagger ride a

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<v Speaker 2>horse and a man in the same night. I think

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<v Speaker 2>there were the club. I think we could have written

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<v Speaker 2>for the show, and I think I think it's a

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<v Speaker 2>shame you didn't hire us getting on the reboots we'll

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<v Speaker 2>get in. Is he still alive? I hate that was

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<v Speaker 2>crazy white people be dying.

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<v Speaker 8>I just.

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<v Speaker 2>Like I didn't know Barbara Walters was dead. Oh wow, No,

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<v Speaker 2>I knew she was.

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<v Speaker 4>I was surprised you didn't know okay, three years did no,

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<v Speaker 4>I didn't know that.

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<v Speaker 1>I posted that clip seven hundred comments. Barbara Walters went

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<v Speaker 1>to the glory like people did not know. Damn straight up, man,

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<v Speaker 1>she'd been gone for some time.

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<v Speaker 4>Greatest speech impediment of all time. I think I was

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<v Speaker 4>there too. Her Tyson, Tyson's up there. Who else we got?

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<v Speaker 4>Who talks funny? And that's at the top.

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<v Speaker 2>Ron Harper was big for me as a kid. I

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<v Speaker 2>like that he had a stutter.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, I like the stutter, but I like more of

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<v Speaker 4>I like the wa wa Like why.

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<v Speaker 2>Did she never correct that?

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<v Speaker 1>Because many children have that, but they go on to

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<v Speaker 1>get like a speech therapist. Well she was second grade.

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<v Speaker 2>She was before speech therapist exists.

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<v Speaker 1>But I mean yeah, because she was born in like

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<v Speaker 1>the Great Depression.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, they didn't. She was mouth crazy.

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<v Speaker 3>We can do.

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<v Speaker 2>We can do a libido, but I don't know a libido.

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<v Speaker 2>She was born a year after they stopped burning woman

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<v Speaker 2>at the state. Apparently Baas got here just after Roots,

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<v Speaker 2>right after Roots. That she could shed a lot of

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<v Speaker 2>nice life.

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<v Speaker 4>She lived a long, beautiful life. Yeah all right, Yeah,

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<v Speaker 4>that's a good time. This has been really fun. We

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<v Speaker 4>wasted quite a bit of that's what it usually happens

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<v Speaker 4>our guests today.

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<v Speaker 2>You you've already heard his voice, you see his beautiful face.

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<v Speaker 2>We're so happy you're here with us today. You know

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<v Speaker 2>him from the podcast Yesterdays. You know him as a

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<v Speaker 2>pop culture anthropologist, a person who you go to for

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<v Speaker 2>all that the ship, the politics, the culture, the mess

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<v Speaker 2>in between. This motherfucker is tapped in on all that

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<v Speaker 2>ship and he's the source of all cool things. Give

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<v Speaker 2>it up for our guests, mister Blake Lee Thornton.

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<v Speaker 1>How did all of this trouble Beginmr? Yeah, hell, that

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<v Speaker 1>is how the trouble began. With the slave ships and me.

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<v Speaker 1>We are ancestors' greatest dreams and white people's greatest nightmare.

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<v Speaker 2>So that's beautiful.

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<v Speaker 4>You know. Yeah, I don't think my ancestors would have

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<v Speaker 4>ever thought any about anything I'm doing.

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<v Speaker 2>If you hear the stuff we say, I don't think

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<v Speaker 2>our ancestors are gonna be too pumped on it.

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<v Speaker 1>I always wanted to do a movie called Black to

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<v Speaker 1>the Future. We're like me and my white assistant go

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<v Speaker 1>back in time and I just keep getting killed over

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<v Speaker 1>and over because like all the things you have to learn,

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<v Speaker 1>and you just kick getting like two minutes further.

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<v Speaker 2>I like that, like you should call it day after

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<v Speaker 2>after tomorrow round.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, yeah, black to the future, just keep going, like

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<v Speaker 1>what is that? Like we used to get killed for

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<v Speaker 1>like little at white women and be like what I will,

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<v Speaker 1>like push a white bitch out of the street, like

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<v Speaker 1>it's Black History Month and it's like April.

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<v Speaker 2>So I mean I'd be dead ten times over in

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<v Speaker 2>like a minute.

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<v Speaker 4>And you know how little we progressed as society is.

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<v Speaker 4>I felt uncomfortable you saying that.

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<v Speaker 2>You know you're gonna come here.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, no one's trying to fuck you. Okay, Katie with

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<v Speaker 1>your fucking Kate Spade purse, you bitch.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, anyway, you should do it.

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<v Speaker 1>Anyway, justid we love white women and you guys are okay,

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<v Speaker 1>the rest all for debate.

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<v Speaker 2>Likely we're happy you're here. You came to us with

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<v Speaker 2>the conspiracy theory that I would say, it's got a

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<v Speaker 2>heavier it's got a heavier hand on it. I mean,

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<v Speaker 2>I don't think it's a conspiracy. Yeah, I think there's

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<v Speaker 2>a fair amount of validity to it. You said, my

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<v Speaker 2>mama told me the welfare system was created to keep

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<v Speaker 2>black men out of the home.

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<v Speaker 1>Yes, God damn one. Everything post thirteenth Amendment is kind

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<v Speaker 1>of designed to keep black men out of the home.

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<v Speaker 1>Kind of has been admitted by several Republicans since. So

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<v Speaker 1>you know, you have the freedom of this lays, but

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<v Speaker 1>then you put in a system that allows you to

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<v Speaker 1>do prison work for free, which is just a promulgation

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<v Speaker 1>of but now we have privatize prisons, and then I

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<v Speaker 1>think the rules surrounding welfare systems were designed to keep

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<v Speaker 1>black men out of household where you look at the

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<v Speaker 1>technicalities at the federal and state level, where like, if

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<v Speaker 1>you have a man in the household not working, you're

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<v Speaker 1>not you can't have it. So I think it's just

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<v Speaker 1>by system. It's just kind of like a death by

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<v Speaker 1>a thousand paper cuts of keeping black family units separated.

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<v Speaker 1>Because we've seen what happens when black people start to thrive.

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<v Speaker 1>I Tulsa, So you know, it's easier just to keep

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<v Speaker 1>them out of the house than to have to like

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<v Speaker 1>you know, destroy towns and then pretend you didn't do it.

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<v Speaker 2>That by that because hurts so much. It's true, lot

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<v Speaker 2>you're saying that, uh that Tulsa is harder to pull

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<v Speaker 2>off a second time. Exactly a person a person war

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<v Speaker 2>is much easier.

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<v Speaker 1>If you can keep people crippled at a microcouse and

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<v Speaker 1>you don't have to deal with the macroeconomics and black

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<v Speaker 1>people collecting and getting gaining strength and building their own systems.

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<v Speaker 1>So it's like if you can stop them from even

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<v Speaker 1>making the progress to begin with, and you don't have

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<v Speaker 1>to deal with doing the overt very hard to cover up,

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<v Speaker 1>very hard to, very hard to explain away generationally. Yeah, yeah, yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>crimes of what's going on. It's like when you see

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<v Speaker 1>like Jerry Jones in that picture, like like protesting integration.

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<v Speaker 2>Well he claimed he was just looking.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean I honestly have a picture in my phone.

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<v Speaker 1>He was doing more than looking like this.

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<v Speaker 2>You know, he can't explain. It would just be easy

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<v Speaker 2>if the black people never tried to go to the school.

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<v Speaker 3>You know.

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<v Speaker 4>Jerry Jones is like, I'm gonna graduate from this college.

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<v Speaker 4>I'm gonna start buying and selling.

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<v Speaker 2>NFL. I was to make this work. He's worked for him.

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<v Speaker 2>The NFL is modern chattel. Sav Oh. Yeah, It's like

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<v Speaker 2>the problem is I don't like yelling at him personally.

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<v Speaker 2>I wouldn't mind paying Amanda yell at exactly.

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<v Speaker 3>I don't want to touch one man.

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<v Speaker 1>I went to a I was a tennis teacher at

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<v Speaker 1>a country club.

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<v Speaker 3>Wow are you tennis?

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<v Speaker 1>I played competitively from like ten to seventeen.

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<v Speaker 3>It's like juniors.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I was like ranked in Texas. And then I

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<v Speaker 1>was going to go to a school in Florida, an

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<v Speaker 1>IMG Academy, and I was like, oh, these kids are broken.

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<v Speaker 3>You were gonna go to IMG. That's like a major

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<v Speaker 3>that's a major program.

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<v Speaker 1>Because it's like if you want to like get a

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<v Speaker 1>college college, but a lot of kids with IMG or

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<v Speaker 1>they go to like Newcomb's and Austin, and then you

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<v Speaker 1>go you see kids that are actually just just what's

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<v Speaker 1>it called dedicated at like eleven, twelve, thirteen, They're really

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<v Speaker 1>fucking weird.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah. I was like, I'd rather go to school with

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<v Speaker 2>like normal teenagers.

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<v Speaker 1>And I switched to playing football my junior year of

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<v Speaker 1>high school and I played in college.

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<v Speaker 3>You started playing football junior year of high school. I

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<v Speaker 3>went to college.

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<v Speaker 2>I played once.

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<v Speaker 1>I played in like seventh grades, third but hey did

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<v Speaker 1>and then I stopped because I played tennis. And then

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<v Speaker 1>I was like, well, I want to go to an

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<v Speaker 1>IVY League school and I got to see in Spanish,

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<v Speaker 1>and I figured, I'm fashioning these white kids. So I

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<v Speaker 1>played football.

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<v Speaker 3>That's great, I was, but it worked, you know.

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<v Speaker 2>But we talked about we've talked about that a lot

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<v Speaker 2>in terms of comedy, that they're like to be successful

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<v Speaker 2>in certain spaces, you do have to have a little

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<v Speaker 2>bit of that.

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<v Speaker 3>Definitely, definitely to be nuts.

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<v Speaker 2>It's not comics. Yeah, I think any any person who's like,

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<v Speaker 2>truly wants to be great at something has to become

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<v Speaker 2>sad to the point of their dedication. Agreed, Yeah, there

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<v Speaker 2>we go. The king is not function, human being, not being.

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<v Speaker 1>That picture of Oprah Michael Jackson is fucking sending me yea,

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<v Speaker 1>the salt and pepper of dysfunction.

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<v Speaker 2>That's just two fine sick people.

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<v Speaker 1>That's just that's just two fine sisters picking up man.

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<v Speaker 4>Look about hope, hope in their eyes. Though you see

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<v Speaker 4>hope in his eyes. I feel like in nineteen ninety two,

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<v Speaker 4>Michael Jackson felt unkillable, you see, hoping that he was

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<v Speaker 4>a bleached Michael he was. I think he was that big.

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<v Speaker 2>I actually fully disagree. I think absolutely he was that big,

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<v Speaker 2>but I think he had reached a big that there

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<v Speaker 2>was nothing above it, And I don't think that that

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<v Speaker 2>leaves hope in your eyes. I don't know. Maybe hope

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<v Speaker 2>is not what i'm maybe maybe maybe it's life.

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<v Speaker 1>It might be because he's because he's Yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>Maybe it's just that he's alive. Maybe it's just that

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<v Speaker 2>he's not dead in that photo.

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<v Speaker 4>I do feel like there is that satisfaction of feeling

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<v Speaker 4>unkillable at least for two three years that he probably had.

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<v Speaker 2>What year is that?

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<v Speaker 1>Because that's this feels like Opra one. This is that's

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<v Speaker 1>like eighty nine, ninety ninety.

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<v Speaker 2>This is like dangerous or dangerous.

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<v Speaker 1>That's a pre first weight watchers Oprah.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, but post this is this is she's a big

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<v Speaker 4>post bad yea, right, this is dangerous.

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<v Speaker 1>I said dangerous are bad?

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<v Speaker 4>Okay, yeah, because when the Oprah get huge, Yeah, that's

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<v Speaker 4>that's bad.

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<v Speaker 2>Era is that is that? That's dangerous, that's dangerous. I

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<v Speaker 2>thought dangerous was like Nigeria Liberian Girl.

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<v Speaker 1>I think that's this girl's a deep cut.

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<v Speaker 3>I don't so also, keep it in the closet, loved

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<v Speaker 3>that song.

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<v Speaker 1>Also, what was the one when Naomi canmble in the

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<v Speaker 1>video Iberian Iberian Girl?

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<v Speaker 2>No, keep it in the closet.

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<v Speaker 3>He's black and white. The video is black and white, right.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, yeah, little video I've ever witnessed.

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<v Speaker 4>It's so funny watching him in horny videos because he

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<v Speaker 4>still just never believed it.

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<v Speaker 2>And I think it's what I think, it's what made

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<v Speaker 2>it almost like hornier. Was like it was a man

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<v Speaker 2>trying to prove that he was horny. And then and

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<v Speaker 2>so she had to like show more just to make

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<v Speaker 2>up for that absolute most She's like, just don't look

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<v Speaker 2>over there.

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<v Speaker 4>Return no, because when he talks to him, like do

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<v Speaker 4>you remember the what's the video where he's following the

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<v Speaker 4>woman just like yellow ass.

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<v Speaker 2>He made me feel the way you make me feel,

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<v Speaker 2>which was just stalking. Yeah, he's just on the street, the.

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<v Speaker 1>Man committing crimes and it being like that's romantic. Followed

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<v Speaker 1>her home so she literally.

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<v Speaker 2>Like walks around a car and then he climbs through

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<v Speaker 2>the windows.

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<v Speaker 1>Or thriller where he just basically turns into a zombie

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<v Speaker 1>and kills her.

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<v Speaker 4>That that's what he smiles at us, like we marked

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<v Speaker 4>this home. We all like we got her, we got her,

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<v Speaker 4>black woman, king of pop music, you know, the king

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<v Speaker 4>of pop music.

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<v Speaker 2>So so yes, welfare, so welfare with this question of welfare. Yes,

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<v Speaker 2>you this is something you obviously have have some knowledge about.

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<v Speaker 2>Do you feel like this is something that we all

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<v Speaker 2>accept as fact? Is this is this known well in

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<v Speaker 2>the circles you run in.

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<v Speaker 1>I think in the circles I run in just because

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<v Speaker 1>my parents were very like politically active in like the

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<v Speaker 1>eighties and nineties when I was little, and then that

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<v Speaker 1>was coming off of Reaganomics and the whole idea of

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<v Speaker 1>like the Walfare Queen and the examples that like Reagan

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<v Speaker 1>would make about you know, specifically black women scamming this

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<v Speaker 1>system that especially in tandem with civil rights. So I

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<v Speaker 1>think the idea of the Walfare Queen while creating more

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<v Speaker 1>examples of people on welfare. During the time when black

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<v Speaker 1>people were integrating schools, getting into jobs, it wasn't cool

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<v Speaker 1>in the culture to be openly racist anymore. Although that's

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<v Speaker 1>coming back.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, yeah, I think it's cool, but I miss racist

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<v Speaker 4>original recipe because like, show your face coward, if you're

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<v Speaker 4>wearing a mask, you kind of ultimately know you're wrong, right,

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<v Speaker 4>be proud.

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<v Speaker 2>Be a proud boy.

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<v Speaker 4>Problem like blatantly racist people more than like when they

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<v Speaker 4>do that. I think that's what happens, especially within like

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<v Speaker 4>liberal circles a lot where they do this kind of like.

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<v Speaker 1>The dance dirty game of like it.

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<v Speaker 4>Like it's like, you don't even think I'm a person

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<v Speaker 4>now he's scared enough to have a gun.

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<v Speaker 2>That video, that video where that man's calling that lady

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<v Speaker 2>a nigger wearing the Burger King crown on the light.

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<v Speaker 2>This wild you guys, you say, it's the funniest thing

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<v Speaker 2>I've ever seen in my life because he's just so

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<v Speaker 2>crazy and just being vile in a way that like

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<v Speaker 2>you don't get to see anymore, Like people don't just

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<v Speaker 2>show who they are in a wrong way anymore. It really,

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, it's just it's hit.

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<v Speaker 1>It's like, yeah, it's like you want to walk around

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<v Speaker 1>in a mask and it's like, for why, my guy, Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>don't you want us to know.

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<v Speaker 2>You we hate you like hate. We can just stay

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<v Speaker 2>away from each other. Yeah, why?

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<v Speaker 1>Because Also because now nowadays racist white they want to

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<v Speaker 1>like listen to rap music that's the cognitive and this

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<v Speaker 1>that fucks me or y'all want to like use a

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<v Speaker 1>a ve like clapping back, you know, clap back as

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<v Speaker 1>a jaw rules aw you're quoting us the n word,

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<v Speaker 1>like every time I see like people dot com be

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<v Speaker 1>like Jennifer Lawrence claps back. No, she didn't clap. That

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<v Speaker 1>means you're killing somebody in a drug. I don't think

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<v Speaker 1>she claps much anything.

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<v Speaker 3>I'll say it.

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<v Speaker 2>Jennifer Lawn. Yeah, she used to have a donkey back there.

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<v Speaker 2>She has two babies. She's she's clearly clapping something. She

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<v Speaker 2>has two children. It was clapping.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, I don't know. Again, heterosexual sex is of

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<v Speaker 1>no interest to me, so I'm not sure. And that's fair,

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<v Speaker 1>that's fair, that's fair. You guys are gross. I don't

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<v Speaker 1>like the way you're saying.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't love it. Your sex results in babies for

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<v Speaker 2>some reason. Quite frankly, I'm interested in what you guys

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<v Speaker 2>are doing.

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<v Speaker 5>It too.

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<v Speaker 1>If you're all having but sex would be a lot

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<v Speaker 1>less children. I'm just gonna say that I.

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<v Speaker 2>Respect what you got, going on to ask you to

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<v Speaker 2>respect what we've got, will I will not?

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<v Speaker 1>I won't.

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<v Speaker 3>I appreciate the frequency which you guys are operating for right.

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<v Speaker 2>What's doing it.

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<v Speaker 1>That's what I got it, that's what we gotta have. Also,

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<v Speaker 1>we were talking about this on the podcast too. We

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<v Speaker 1>have to I have to have a gay doctor, because

0:24:08.440 --> 0:24:12.960
<v Speaker 1>when you tell straight doctors what they're judging, I had,

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<v Speaker 1>I didn't respect myself and I was like, you're a

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<v Speaker 1>dumb virgin who can't drive.

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<v Speaker 8>Wow.

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<v Speaker 1>I was like, you're a prude bitch, and I never

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<v Speaker 1>want to see you again. That's pretty Like, how dare you?

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<v Speaker 1>I was like, I'm taking my things. Damn, I will

0:24:25.520 --> 0:24:26.639
<v Speaker 1>be taking this lacroix.

0:24:27.359 --> 0:24:32.960
<v Speaker 2>That's nuts. That's nutsy male female. She was like, you

0:24:33.000 --> 0:24:34.760
<v Speaker 2>said you She said, I don't respect my body. I

0:24:34.800 --> 0:24:37.119
<v Speaker 2>was like, you're not my therapist, Heather.

0:24:37.880 --> 0:24:41.320
<v Speaker 1>First of all, damn, swab my butt, tell me what's

0:24:41.359 --> 0:24:43.600
<v Speaker 1>wrong and give me some medicine.

0:24:43.600 --> 0:24:47.359
<v Speaker 2>Do I haven't heard. I love the idea of storming

0:24:47.400 --> 0:24:52.040
<v Speaker 2>out with the same problem in you, But first of all, Heather,

0:24:54.560 --> 0:24:59.280
<v Speaker 2>this is not what my cope is for elsewhere. Exactly.

0:25:00.480 --> 0:25:01.200
<v Speaker 2>If you're not.

0:25:01.119 --> 0:25:04.040
<v Speaker 1>Going to give the antibiotics and a lollipop, someone else will.

0:25:05.640 --> 0:25:09.760
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, not better than me, bitch, exactly. I know your husband.

0:25:10.119 --> 0:25:13.119
<v Speaker 2>Your husband's at the clubs. I'm at whorror. Guess what,

0:25:14.280 --> 0:25:15.719
<v Speaker 2>it's a river in Egypt.

0:25:15.960 --> 0:25:19.800
<v Speaker 7>Your husband is okay, man.

0:25:19.640 --> 0:25:22.080
<v Speaker 2>Her husband was dead. You really make that was wrong?

0:25:22.119 --> 0:25:23.800
<v Speaker 4>Sometimes talking to you. It makes you feel like I've

0:25:23.840 --> 0:25:30.320
<v Speaker 4>never been to the doctor. I've never had my doctor.

0:25:30.920 --> 0:25:35.200
<v Speaker 1>Oh no, truly, especially what time of the year it is,

0:25:35.240 --> 0:25:38.080
<v Speaker 1>and it's like, what drugs have you done? How many

0:25:38.080 --> 0:25:41.199
<v Speaker 1>partners have you had? I'm like, yeah, hold time, your

0:25:41.240 --> 0:25:43.040
<v Speaker 1>drugs change from the time of the year. Is it

0:25:43.119 --> 0:25:45.280
<v Speaker 1>like you are drug you don't you want to talk out? Yeah,

0:25:45.280 --> 0:25:47.080
<v Speaker 1>it's like I mean, it's like if you're at a festival,

0:25:47.080 --> 0:25:49.959
<v Speaker 1>you do like shrooms or molly. If you're else, if

0:25:49.960 --> 0:25:52.280
<v Speaker 1>you're like the bees are a Paris different, they have

0:25:52.280 --> 0:25:54.280
<v Speaker 1>a whole different category of drugs they after you go

0:25:54.280 --> 0:25:56.680
<v Speaker 1>into like boiler rooms, different.

0:25:56.480 --> 0:25:58.600
<v Speaker 3>No drugs in Paris. I ain't smoke hash.

0:25:59.040 --> 0:26:01.120
<v Speaker 2>What you doing sleeping?

0:26:01.400 --> 0:26:05.480
<v Speaker 4>Just charmed by the beautiful city. People just start walking around.

0:26:05.520 --> 0:26:08.919
<v Speaker 4>Oh I did smoke weed I brought, but it was

0:26:08.920 --> 0:26:10.440
<v Speaker 4>like that I brought. Was you going to set the

0:26:10.520 --> 0:26:11.280
<v Speaker 4>music or any of that?

0:26:11.560 --> 0:26:13.960
<v Speaker 3>I went to the Loup for six hours by myself.

0:26:14.359 --> 0:26:17.399
<v Speaker 2>You so you were high? Yeah, okay, what are you talking?

0:26:17.840 --> 0:26:19.720
<v Speaker 2>It was one of the best stings of my life.

0:26:19.880 --> 0:26:22.800
<v Speaker 1>Honestly, and being in a Paris museum high go to

0:26:22.840 --> 0:26:25.760
<v Speaker 1>the next time, go to Merced the old train station.

0:26:25.960 --> 0:26:28.120
<v Speaker 1>It's got all it's like six floors of art. It's

0:26:28.119 --> 0:26:30.280
<v Speaker 1>like almost like a science place. Like they cut the

0:26:30.359 --> 0:26:32.919
<v Speaker 1>palais in half and you can see how the opera works,

0:26:33.080 --> 0:26:34.879
<v Speaker 1>but on like a ten foot model of it.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, I love that.

0:26:35.720 --> 0:26:35.840
<v Speaker 4>Uh.

0:26:36.240 --> 0:26:38.600
<v Speaker 1>They have all kinds of like African art statues that

0:26:38.600 --> 0:26:41.720
<v Speaker 1>will honestly make it'll activate your black rage around floor

0:26:41.760 --> 0:26:42.800
<v Speaker 1>four because it's like.

0:26:43.000 --> 0:26:45.360
<v Speaker 2>You does do that to me after a bit where

0:26:45.359 --> 0:26:46.560
<v Speaker 2>you're like wait, fuck, then.

0:26:46.760 --> 0:26:48.920
<v Speaker 1>You're like wait, why is every black man in the

0:26:48.960 --> 0:26:50.240
<v Speaker 1>statue got chains on it?

0:26:50.320 --> 0:26:55.760
<v Speaker 2>Like fighting an alligator? Hey, I'll say this. I'll say

0:26:55.800 --> 0:26:59.160
<v Speaker 2>this if you boys want to learn anything about Maywood, Illinois.

0:26:59.240 --> 0:27:04.560
<v Speaker 2>You asked me question, where is first Starters? Somewhere?

0:27:07.560 --> 0:27:10.919
<v Speaker 1>She went to lim Blue High Okay in the south side. Okay,

0:27:11.000 --> 0:27:13.160
<v Speaker 1>Hell yeah, my sister lived there for a while. That's

0:27:13.200 --> 0:27:14.680
<v Speaker 1>beautiful in South eighthn Michigan.

0:27:15.080 --> 0:27:19.480
<v Speaker 2>Do you come from a conspiratorial background? Do you? Do

0:27:19.560 --> 0:27:22.960
<v Speaker 2>you consider yourself a conspiracy theorist? No?

0:27:23.240 --> 0:27:27.080
<v Speaker 1>But I consider myself inquisitive. And I feel like a

0:27:27.119 --> 0:27:29.640
<v Speaker 1>lot of what is taught to us as American history,

0:27:29.640 --> 0:27:31.560
<v Speaker 1>as a black person, you end up learning is propaganda.

0:27:31.640 --> 0:27:34.680
<v Speaker 1>So I feel like conspiracy is usually when white people

0:27:34.760 --> 0:27:38.359
<v Speaker 1>use it a euphemism for like truth telling in some capacity,

0:27:38.440 --> 0:27:41.000
<v Speaker 1>like I'm not like not like a Pizzagate person, or

0:27:41.040 --> 0:27:42.879
<v Speaker 1>like I'm not like a Terrence Howard two plus two

0:27:43.000 --> 0:27:44.000
<v Speaker 1>is I haven't mentioned math.

0:27:44.040 --> 0:27:48.080
<v Speaker 2>Pay careful, that's our guy. I should leave.

0:27:50.200 --> 0:27:51.240
<v Speaker 3>Take a bullet for that man.

0:27:55.359 --> 0:27:57.440
<v Speaker 2>I'll take a bullet to talk to him and then

0:27:57.560 --> 0:28:00.399
<v Speaker 2>regret my choice. You would take a well to talk

0:28:00.440 --> 0:28:00.679
<v Speaker 2>to him.

0:28:01.440 --> 0:28:05.200
<v Speaker 1>I think I think he called once and what what

0:28:05.200 --> 0:28:06.160
<v Speaker 1>did he have to say?

0:28:06.480 --> 0:28:06.720
<v Speaker 2>Nothing?

0:28:06.760 --> 0:28:13.480
<v Speaker 4>Goods were about to change. But he wanted us to

0:28:13.520 --> 0:28:14.119
<v Speaker 4>change the poster.

0:28:14.920 --> 0:28:17.879
<v Speaker 2>No, he didn't care. To his credit, he didn't care

0:28:17.880 --> 0:28:20.359
<v Speaker 2>about changing that poster. He said it should say he

0:28:20.400 --> 0:28:23.679
<v Speaker 2>said it should say this. But but Brandon T. Jackson,

0:28:23.720 --> 0:28:28.520
<v Speaker 2>who was our liaison, cared deeply about that because it's proprietary,

0:28:28.600 --> 0:28:29.879
<v Speaker 2>he said, and.

0:28:29.840 --> 0:28:31.000
<v Speaker 3>He did say that word.

0:28:31.480 --> 0:28:34.880
<v Speaker 2>He wants that to be a massive income for him

0:28:34.920 --> 0:28:37.639
<v Speaker 2>and the poster. Yeah, posters like T shirts.

0:28:37.640 --> 0:28:42.120
<v Speaker 4>I think patents, well, he wanted he wants he said,

0:28:42.960 --> 0:28:43.560
<v Speaker 4>said ninety.

0:28:43.440 --> 0:28:46.920
<v Speaker 2>Ninety's because he recognizes that he in fact has far

0:28:46.960 --> 0:28:51.120
<v Speaker 2>more patents than than ninety nine. But he's willing to

0:28:51.160 --> 0:28:53.600
<v Speaker 2>say ninety nine because of the joke. But then he

0:28:53.680 --> 0:28:58.760
<v Speaker 2>wants it to say, but fake math ain't one because

0:28:58.840 --> 0:29:00.960
<v Speaker 2>he's the real man, not the fake man.

0:29:02.600 --> 0:29:09.840
<v Speaker 1>Okay, your rebuttal Okay. Plus he was four Terrence, so

0:29:10.160 --> 0:29:12.000
<v Speaker 1>you know it's one time one is too. I went

0:29:12.040 --> 0:29:12.760
<v Speaker 1>to kindergarten.

0:29:12.840 --> 0:29:16.520
<v Speaker 4>And that's his big point, is the one times one

0:29:16.560 --> 0:29:16.840
<v Speaker 4>is too.

0:29:17.000 --> 0:29:20.160
<v Speaker 2>It's the beginning of the conversation and the end of it. Really,

0:29:20.360 --> 0:29:22.880
<v Speaker 2>if I were involved, if you guys are going to

0:29:22.960 --> 0:29:28.040
<v Speaker 2>have a nasty attitude, this won't continue. You know. I

0:29:29.720 --> 0:29:32.680
<v Speaker 2>I loved him an Empire to you know.

0:29:32.680 --> 0:29:36.480
<v Speaker 4>I really had fun watching Empire put me first, Lucius.

0:29:36.640 --> 0:29:39.400
<v Speaker 3>I loved him. And all those talented Smolette kids.

0:29:39.480 --> 0:29:41.800
<v Speaker 2>They're gray, they really, they are grey.

0:29:41.880 --> 0:29:45.560
<v Speaker 1>I met Journey Slett in Paris also really, yes, I

0:29:45.600 --> 0:29:49.000
<v Speaker 1>went to the Louis Vuitton show. Is Cynthia Rivo and

0:29:49.000 --> 0:29:51.520
<v Speaker 1>every like fabulous black woman I'd ever met in the

0:29:51.520 --> 0:29:53.400
<v Speaker 1>world was there. I believe that it was like a

0:29:53.680 --> 0:29:59.320
<v Speaker 1>different as Zendaya, Cynthia Rivo, Journey Smolett, Ryan Destiny.

0:30:00.720 --> 0:30:02.840
<v Speaker 2>This is just like on a Wednesday. I mean, because

0:30:02.840 --> 0:30:03.480
<v Speaker 2>I walked out for.

0:30:03.480 --> 0:30:05.560
<v Speaker 3>The Vaiton store in Paris, nobody was there.

0:30:05.800 --> 0:30:06.320
<v Speaker 2>It was.

0:30:13.200 --> 0:30:15.800
<v Speaker 1>That was one crazy day because it was like it

0:30:15.920 --> 0:30:18.360
<v Speaker 1>was like you know the days got home training, because

0:30:18.400 --> 0:30:19.720
<v Speaker 1>she came up and it was like all the black

0:30:19.760 --> 0:30:21.800
<v Speaker 1>women and she was like nice to me that she

0:30:21.880 --> 0:30:24.160
<v Speaker 1>was nice to see you again. I was like, you've

0:30:24.200 --> 0:30:26.000
<v Speaker 1>never met me, but I love that You're like it's

0:30:26.040 --> 0:30:28.640
<v Speaker 1>black with the black people we probably met like black.

0:30:28.840 --> 0:30:31.960
<v Speaker 2>I bet she doesn't say meet you to anyone person. Anyone.

0:30:32.040 --> 0:30:34.360
<v Speaker 2>She probably says see you. I think that is a

0:30:34.480 --> 0:30:37.840
<v Speaker 2>machine smart that will never make an error. No, as

0:30:37.960 --> 0:30:38.560
<v Speaker 2>long she's.

0:30:38.480 --> 0:30:41.720
<v Speaker 4>Kind of perfect, like for what she does, it's perfect. No,

0:30:41.880 --> 0:30:43.880
<v Speaker 4>she's never she's not playing.

0:30:43.920 --> 0:30:45.520
<v Speaker 2>She's not playing. She's teflon don right now.

0:30:45.680 --> 0:30:47.760
<v Speaker 4>Honestly though, I used to feel that way about a

0:30:47.760 --> 0:30:50.000
<v Speaker 4>lot of people who have been unraveling at the end.

0:30:51.360 --> 0:30:54.600
<v Speaker 3>Smith, but his brother was perfect.

0:30:54.920 --> 0:30:57.680
<v Speaker 2>I kind of like that he hit Chris Rock. That's

0:30:57.720 --> 0:30:59.800
<v Speaker 2>the best thing of all this. Yeah, that's not what

0:30:59.840 --> 0:31:02.560
<v Speaker 2>I I don't think. I don't think.

0:31:04.320 --> 0:31:08.800
<v Speaker 1>You guys like pretty girls, girls girls. I just blocked

0:31:08.840 --> 0:31:11.160
<v Speaker 1>that out all the freestyle I think, I think, but

0:31:11.320 --> 0:31:15.280
<v Speaker 1>I've honestly been blocking I think everything from what.

0:31:14.840 --> 0:31:21.240
<v Speaker 2>I was like, what do you mean guys? That is

0:31:21.280 --> 0:31:22.760
<v Speaker 2>how I'm people.

0:31:22.760 --> 0:31:24.680
<v Speaker 1>When you mentioned new album, I'm just like my brain,

0:31:24.760 --> 0:31:28.600
<v Speaker 1>I delete, I move, I think everything.

0:31:28.680 --> 0:31:30.880
<v Speaker 2>I think the slap was the eye of the storm.

0:31:30.920 --> 0:31:34.200
<v Speaker 2>I think everything before that, the Red Table. The way

0:31:34.280 --> 0:31:37.600
<v Speaker 2>up to the slap was a nightmare to watch. It

0:31:37.640 --> 0:31:42.000
<v Speaker 2>was the Red Table talk. Oh man, that was hard.

0:31:42.360 --> 0:31:44.560
<v Speaker 1>I feel like I feel like if more straight couples

0:31:44.600 --> 0:31:47.120
<v Speaker 1>got with the whole, like, look, we're gonna fuck up

0:31:47.120 --> 0:31:49.600
<v Speaker 1>the people. Sometimes we were each other's emotional number one.

0:31:49.640 --> 0:31:52.680
<v Speaker 1>We're building a life together, that's what we're doing. I think, like,

0:31:53.240 --> 0:31:56.880
<v Speaker 1>I mean, basically, almost every gay married couple is out

0:31:56.880 --> 0:31:57.680
<v Speaker 1>here for other people.

0:31:57.760 --> 0:32:00.680
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, but they didn't do it like you're described. Yeah

0:32:00.680 --> 0:32:05.600
<v Speaker 2>you did here. They they expose dirt that meant something

0:32:05.680 --> 0:32:08.280
<v Speaker 2>to the public in a in a jarring way.

0:32:08.320 --> 0:32:12.920
<v Speaker 1>But again it didn't mean anything to me. Well, you

0:32:12.920 --> 0:32:16.680
<v Speaker 1>just likely what meant? What do you want to You

0:32:16.720 --> 0:32:20.160
<v Speaker 1>just want the road funk up. You want to.

0:32:23.400 --> 0:32:25.680
<v Speaker 2>Be a pay person. You want us to give a

0:32:25.680 --> 0:32:29.120
<v Speaker 2>ship that will Smith's unraveled in front of us. Let

0:32:29.200 --> 0:32:33.920
<v Speaker 2>it go, let it go, let it go, fuck them up,

0:32:34.480 --> 0:32:41.360
<v Speaker 2>punch your doctor. Don't you don't have children, don't.

0:32:41.120 --> 0:32:47.640
<v Speaker 9>Mean in Paris, nothing is wrong but why you kids,

0:32:48.200 --> 0:32:53.040
<v Speaker 9>You're like abandon them all. The doctor is such a

0:32:53.080 --> 0:32:55.480
<v Speaker 9>crazy way to live your life, as they gave way

0:32:55.480 --> 0:32:57.880
<v Speaker 9>to live a life gay guys.

0:32:57.880 --> 0:32:59.400
<v Speaker 3>To punch your doctors.

0:32:59.280 --> 0:33:04.440
<v Speaker 1>Emotionally, emotion emotionally, every every game man is called the

0:33:04.560 --> 0:33:05.200
<v Speaker 1>doctor a bitch.

0:33:05.480 --> 0:33:16.240
<v Speaker 2>Here's here's to her face. Okay, here's the pro facts.

0:33:11.400 --> 0:33:19.080
<v Speaker 4>Here I text the four Gigs, Solomon. I never called

0:33:19.080 --> 0:33:21.720
<v Speaker 4>your doctor a bitch. We lived together for a while,

0:33:22.000 --> 0:33:23.520
<v Speaker 4>an ugly virgin who can't drive.

0:33:23.760 --> 0:33:27.640
<v Speaker 2>That's crazy, that's awesome, that's crazy. It don't work together anymore.

0:33:28.760 --> 0:33:31.000
<v Speaker 2>Here's my promise to you. Yes, I'm not gonna suck it,

0:33:31.040 --> 0:33:33.160
<v Speaker 2>but okay, but I will try my best to punch

0:33:33.160 --> 0:33:34.920
<v Speaker 2>a doctor at some point, just like.

0:33:35.440 --> 0:33:38.400
<v Speaker 1>That, Just like insult a doctor, insult a white doctor, man,

0:33:38.720 --> 0:33:40.800
<v Speaker 1>do you know? Or just question them constantly, like do

0:33:40.840 --> 0:33:42.480
<v Speaker 1>you know what you're doing? Where'd you go to school?

0:33:43.200 --> 0:33:46.120
<v Speaker 1>Just just gas like them, you wanted to gaslight a

0:33:46.160 --> 0:33:47.200
<v Speaker 1>white doctor.

0:33:46.920 --> 0:33:48.640
<v Speaker 2>Because it always feels like it's the reverse.

0:33:48.760 --> 0:33:56.040
<v Speaker 4>It really is, you heard and dark skinned they. I'm like,

0:33:56.200 --> 0:34:01.320
<v Speaker 4>I just take some more pictures of your.

0:34:04.560 --> 0:34:05.320
<v Speaker 2>Playing basketball?

0:34:06.560 --> 0:34:09.840
<v Speaker 1>Can you still sling that rock bro?

0:34:10.040 --> 0:34:10.439
<v Speaker 2>That ship?

0:34:10.719 --> 0:34:14.040
<v Speaker 3>Yeah? I fuck I do hating going to the doctor.

0:34:14.280 --> 0:34:17.479
<v Speaker 2>That's just unless you were physically bleeding out.

0:34:17.520 --> 0:34:20.480
<v Speaker 4>They're like you, I never have gotten real like pain

0:34:20.560 --> 0:34:23.680
<v Speaker 4>pills in a major way. Really, even when I got

0:34:23.719 --> 0:34:26.160
<v Speaker 4>my wisdom teeth pulled. My stepdad went to the same

0:34:26.239 --> 0:34:28.920
<v Speaker 4>exact doctor at the same time, and I got like

0:34:29.360 --> 0:34:32.399
<v Speaker 4>ten pills and he got like I.

0:34:32.400 --> 0:34:35.520
<v Speaker 1>Woke up during the surgery and they tried to charge

0:34:35.560 --> 0:34:37.239
<v Speaker 1>me for having to redo the anesthesia.

0:34:37.520 --> 0:34:38.160
<v Speaker 2>Holy shit.

0:34:38.320 --> 0:34:45.480
<v Speaker 10>And you know, exactly like a white doctor. Because you

0:34:45.520 --> 0:34:47.839
<v Speaker 10>know what, guys, you're not doing a good job. You're

0:34:47.840 --> 0:34:48.879
<v Speaker 10>doing a shitty job.

0:34:49.320 --> 0:34:49.440
<v Speaker 4>All.

0:34:49.440 --> 0:34:52.040
<v Speaker 2>If you're doing a shitty job, you suck. I'm going

0:34:52.120 --> 0:34:55.600
<v Speaker 2>to kill Serena Williams. We need to take a break.

0:34:57.680 --> 0:35:02.000
<v Speaker 2>I think things have lost controlling. I think some nasty

0:35:02.080 --> 0:35:07.200
<v Speaker 2>things are being said about some fine folks. No, no,

0:35:07.600 --> 0:35:11.239
<v Speaker 2>we agree. Why doctors stopping that said? We're gonna take

0:35:11.239 --> 0:35:12.920
<v Speaker 2>a break. We're gonna come back and we'll talk more

0:35:13.080 --> 0:35:26.880
<v Speaker 2>more Blakely Thornton more. My mama told me we we

0:35:26.880 --> 0:35:30.520
<v Speaker 2>we are still talking about welfare and whether or not

0:35:30.600 --> 0:35:33.919
<v Speaker 2>it is a It was created. The entire system, in fact,

0:35:34.000 --> 0:35:37.280
<v Speaker 2>was created to keep black men out of the home. Now,

0:35:37.920 --> 0:35:40.279
<v Speaker 2>I did some research on the subject that I'd love

0:35:40.320 --> 0:35:43.560
<v Speaker 2>to send your way, and and y'all feel free to

0:35:43.600 --> 0:35:45.200
<v Speaker 2>tell me what makes sense and what doesn't.

0:35:46.000 --> 0:35:48.160
<v Speaker 4>I am I do want to say just to ask

0:35:48.360 --> 0:35:51.400
<v Speaker 4>about this because of the size of welfare fair and

0:35:51.440 --> 0:35:53.360
<v Speaker 4>because it's such a classiest thing, do you feel like

0:35:54.239 --> 0:35:56.759
<v Speaker 4>the entire are you saying that the entire program was

0:35:56.760 --> 0:36:01.960
<v Speaker 4>specifically it was retooled after it's formation because it directly

0:36:02.000 --> 0:36:04.360
<v Speaker 4>target Because I believe the inception was after like the

0:36:05.000 --> 0:36:06.920
<v Speaker 4>Great Depression, to kind of help families and give a

0:36:06.960 --> 0:36:08.640
<v Speaker 4>social saption net for everybody.

0:36:09.120 --> 0:36:13.400
<v Speaker 1>I believe it was weaponized post civil rights and primarily

0:36:13.400 --> 0:36:15.520
<v Speaker 1>by the Reagan administration with the development of the term

0:36:15.560 --> 0:36:20.640
<v Speaker 1>welfare queen to then promote the idea of black women

0:36:20.760 --> 0:36:22.880
<v Speaker 1>gaming the system while the men were not there. So

0:36:22.920 --> 0:36:27.000
<v Speaker 1>I think, in tandem with probably aggressive policing and other laws,

0:36:27.080 --> 0:36:30.759
<v Speaker 1>like the marketing of welfare was designed to present an

0:36:30.800 --> 0:36:32.799
<v Speaker 1>image of a black man not being in the home

0:36:32.920 --> 0:36:33.719
<v Speaker 1>as standard.

0:36:33.880 --> 0:36:37.960
<v Speaker 2>Well, well, here's what I'll tell you that that is true, okay,

0:36:38.000 --> 0:36:42.000
<v Speaker 2>but it isn't limited to like the Reagan era of this. So,

0:36:42.160 --> 0:36:47.160
<v Speaker 2>like the welfare system, as you explained, starts post Great Depression.

0:36:47.600 --> 0:36:51.360
<v Speaker 2>A boy Franklin D. Roosevelt shows up and he's like,

0:36:51.440 --> 0:36:55.720
<v Speaker 2>I'm going to retool the whole deal. It's it's nineteen

0:36:55.760 --> 0:37:00.440
<v Speaker 2>thirty six, so it's it's pre New Deal or I

0:37:00.440 --> 0:37:02.759
<v Speaker 2>don't know. I'm not a historian and I'm not gonna

0:37:02.760 --> 0:37:06.239
<v Speaker 2>look it up. I was honestly scared to say a

0:37:06.239 --> 0:37:07.640
<v Speaker 2>new deal. I was like, man, this show was in

0:37:07.640 --> 0:37:09.960
<v Speaker 2>the eighties. I'm about to feel like I think one

0:37:10.040 --> 0:37:16.000
<v Speaker 2>way or the other. He goes, because the support system

0:37:16.040 --> 0:37:20.960
<v Speaker 2>that previously existed was states specific and local before that,

0:37:21.320 --> 0:37:23.080
<v Speaker 2>so it was a bunch of groups being like, we'll

0:37:23.120 --> 0:37:25.440
<v Speaker 2>just take care of our own. But then when the

0:37:25.480 --> 0:37:29.800
<v Speaker 2>Industrial Revolution happens people move to cities, they stopped being

0:37:29.920 --> 0:37:32.239
<v Speaker 2>able to just take care of their own because of

0:37:32.280 --> 0:37:34.960
<v Speaker 2>how the numbers grow a number of people exactly, and

0:37:35.040 --> 0:37:37.440
<v Speaker 2>so they start counting on the states. But the states

0:37:37.480 --> 0:37:41.000
<v Speaker 2>are allotting money and basically being like, this is emergency only.

0:37:41.440 --> 0:37:43.839
<v Speaker 2>You can't touch this shit unless you really, for real,

0:37:43.880 --> 0:37:46.880
<v Speaker 2>for real need it. And then it isn't until the

0:37:46.920 --> 0:37:50.000
<v Speaker 2>wake of the Great Depression where everybody needs it and

0:37:50.080 --> 0:37:55.640
<v Speaker 2>no state can help that the the the national federal Hey,

0:37:55.440 --> 0:37:58.520
<v Speaker 2>we got to help and they create a system that

0:37:58.719 --> 0:38:03.960
<v Speaker 2>is ultimately welfare. Now here's where it gets interesting is

0:38:04.000 --> 0:38:07.480
<v Speaker 2>that part of that that ultimatum that they created for

0:38:07.600 --> 0:38:11.719
<v Speaker 2>welfare was employment. You had to be either you had

0:38:11.719 --> 0:38:13.440
<v Speaker 2>to have a job or you had to be working

0:38:13.440 --> 0:38:17.880
<v Speaker 2>towards the job. But because black people were specifically forced

0:38:17.880 --> 0:38:20.799
<v Speaker 2>into jobs where they were largely being paid in cash

0:38:20.960 --> 0:38:23.879
<v Speaker 2>and off the books, they had no way of demonstrating

0:38:23.920 --> 0:38:26.400
<v Speaker 2>that they had work. And then there was an intentional

0:38:26.440 --> 0:38:29.319
<v Speaker 2>effort to keep them, an active effort to keep them

0:38:29.320 --> 0:38:32.000
<v Speaker 2>in that way so that they could not then be like,

0:38:32.200 --> 0:38:36.480
<v Speaker 2>I am I haven't qualified for yeah. Right. So then

0:38:37.000 --> 0:38:39.759
<v Speaker 2>this is where it gets even nastier, is that part

0:38:39.760 --> 0:38:43.000
<v Speaker 2>of the propaganda that they spend is that they go

0:38:43.560 --> 0:38:47.480
<v Speaker 2>they're obsessed with welfare, they can't get enough of welfare.

0:38:47.560 --> 0:38:50.360
<v Speaker 2>All the while, these motherfuckers can't even get on welfare

0:38:50.719 --> 0:38:53.560
<v Speaker 2>because they ain't got the jobs. Yeah, it's nasty work,

0:38:58.440 --> 0:39:02.600
<v Speaker 2>it's targeted. Yeah, they're like, look at these thirsty motherfuckers

0:39:02.960 --> 0:39:05.919
<v Speaker 2>taking up all your dollars and dimes and they can't

0:39:05.920 --> 0:39:07.040
<v Speaker 2>even access this ship.

0:39:07.320 --> 0:39:09.800
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, and black people have never been like the majority

0:39:09.800 --> 0:39:10.360
<v Speaker 3>of welfare.

0:39:12.800 --> 0:39:15.560
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, it's not even close at all.

0:39:15.760 --> 0:39:20.040
<v Speaker 1>No, So again, you know, the propaganda of it all

0:39:20.160 --> 0:39:22.799
<v Speaker 1>is a bit I really don't like it. I think it,

0:39:22.920 --> 0:39:25.320
<v Speaker 1>but again, I think it's promoted to keep that idea

0:39:25.480 --> 0:39:28.359
<v Speaker 1>in white people's heads almost more so than actually keep

0:39:28.360 --> 0:39:30.279
<v Speaker 1>black people out of homes. I think that's more just

0:39:30.320 --> 0:39:33.520
<v Speaker 1>like the traditional racial profile and killing black men and

0:39:33.560 --> 0:39:35.120
<v Speaker 1>you know, keeping them unemployed.

0:39:34.680 --> 0:39:38.880
<v Speaker 2>Thing, Yeah, more direct methods.

0:39:38.960 --> 0:39:42.440
<v Speaker 1>And then this, I think the idea of welfare and

0:39:42.480 --> 0:39:44.840
<v Speaker 1>of the welfare queeness essentially was then I need to

0:39:44.920 --> 0:39:45.879
<v Speaker 1>keep the idea that like the.

0:39:45.840 --> 0:39:48.359
<v Speaker 2>Black home is broken, yeah black man.

0:39:48.640 --> 0:39:50.959
<v Speaker 1>And I think that's very powerful because when we see

0:39:51.000 --> 0:39:55.879
<v Speaker 1>that a standard, it becomes a self filling prophecy.

0:39:56.320 --> 0:39:56.800
<v Speaker 3>Definitely.

0:39:56.800 --> 0:39:59.880
<v Speaker 2>I think I think so much about like the the

0:40:00.000 --> 0:40:03.680
<v Speaker 2>the early transitions of like a post slavery racism, right

0:40:03.960 --> 0:40:06.560
<v Speaker 2>were like after slavery, the best thing that they could

0:40:06.560 --> 0:40:09.359
<v Speaker 2>come up with as propaganda for how to pitch black

0:40:09.400 --> 0:40:12.840
<v Speaker 2>people as like not good was to say we were lazy.

0:40:13.480 --> 0:40:16.240
<v Speaker 2>Now we're not slaves. Now we're lazy. Yeah, we're fucking

0:40:16.360 --> 0:40:20.840
<v Speaker 2>everybody's a coon who's sitting around eating watermelon, lazing around whatever.

0:40:21.280 --> 0:40:25.880
<v Speaker 2>And then that's that version of propaganda starts to not work.

0:40:25.920 --> 0:40:29.400
<v Speaker 2>The way they wanted to because of changes in voting,

0:40:29.560 --> 0:40:32.919
<v Speaker 2>changes and opportunities in the country whatever. So they amp

0:40:32.960 --> 0:40:36.480
<v Speaker 2>it up and they go these motherfuckers violent. Yeah, yeah,

0:40:36.520 --> 0:40:39.480
<v Speaker 2>they crazy. They all got switch blades in their pockets. Shit,

0:40:40.080 --> 0:40:41.239
<v Speaker 2>I do carry a switchblade.

0:40:41.440 --> 0:40:44.799
<v Speaker 4>Okay, I believe that. I also con see you being

0:40:44.840 --> 0:40:46.480
<v Speaker 4>a gun guy, and that's no disrespect.

0:40:46.640 --> 0:40:49.920
<v Speaker 1>No, no, I'm not a gun guy. My family, I mean,

0:40:49.920 --> 0:40:53.279
<v Speaker 1>they were Texan. I'm very much anti gun, but like,

0:40:53.360 --> 0:40:55.480
<v Speaker 1>I don't like them. I've shot one a couple times

0:40:55.480 --> 0:40:57.480
<v Speaker 1>at a rand. But my sister, like, there was a

0:40:57.480 --> 0:40:59.439
<v Speaker 1>bit somebody they went to a ranch for a girls

0:40:59.480 --> 0:41:02.279
<v Speaker 1>sixteen thing. They were just like shooting machine. Gus was like,

0:41:02.320 --> 0:41:02.919
<v Speaker 1>g I Jane.

0:41:02.960 --> 0:41:06.080
<v Speaker 2>I was like, oh, she's like, like swat.

0:41:06.120 --> 0:41:08.520
<v Speaker 1>I was like, okay, So my family is quick with

0:41:08.560 --> 0:41:10.920
<v Speaker 1>a gun. I think they're good with one. I'm more

0:41:10.920 --> 0:41:13.560
<v Speaker 1>of like an up close and stab person. You like it,

0:41:13.760 --> 0:41:16.480
<v Speaker 1>you like it to be intimate, intimate, personal, It is personal.

0:41:17.200 --> 0:41:18.360
<v Speaker 1>I want to like see the light go out in

0:41:18.400 --> 0:41:18.719
<v Speaker 1>your eyes.

0:41:18.840 --> 0:41:19.120
<v Speaker 2>Wow.

0:41:19.280 --> 0:41:22.040
<v Speaker 4>I've always said it feels a lot more violent to

0:41:22.160 --> 0:41:25.040
<v Speaker 4>like slash than it does the pultry right to like

0:41:25.200 --> 0:41:26.439
<v Speaker 4>slash some on it.

0:41:26.440 --> 0:41:29.000
<v Speaker 2>It's that's so violent. That's discuss is nasty.

0:41:29.160 --> 0:41:29.319
<v Speaker 1>Now.

0:41:29.360 --> 0:41:33.200
<v Speaker 2>Switchblade that is slashing almost exclusively. You don't stab bellies

0:41:33.239 --> 0:41:35.120
<v Speaker 2>with switch blade. I mean you can't slit a throat

0:41:35.160 --> 0:41:36.680
<v Speaker 2>with a switch blade. Yeah, I think you're can have

0:41:36.760 --> 0:41:37.680
<v Speaker 2>like a mixed green salad.

0:41:37.880 --> 0:41:39.120
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, or like you know, like you know, like you

0:41:39.239 --> 0:41:41.840
<v Speaker 1>like chop ice, Like do you know.

0:41:43.239 --> 0:41:47.080
<v Speaker 2>You're doing that so close to me? They were like,

0:41:47.200 --> 0:41:48.920
<v Speaker 2>you know, like they take it in.

0:41:55.280 --> 0:41:57.960
<v Speaker 1>That and then because you already that to the ice

0:41:58.360 --> 0:42:01.440
<v Speaker 1>and just watch the ice on the street.

0:42:03.800 --> 0:42:05.879
<v Speaker 3>We all just want to feel something at the end.

0:42:05.760 --> 0:42:06.160
<v Speaker 2>Of the day.

0:42:06.200 --> 0:42:10.080
<v Speaker 3>Everybody does that. Yeah, everybody just we just want to feel.

0:42:10.239 --> 0:42:12.960
<v Speaker 2>We just want to feel. It's a beautiful, beautiful way

0:42:13.000 --> 0:42:15.400
<v Speaker 2>to put it. Before we take another break, let me

0:42:15.440 --> 0:42:18.920
<v Speaker 2>ask you this question as you think about all of

0:42:18.960 --> 0:42:21.840
<v Speaker 2>this stuff, because this is obviously a very heavy subject

0:42:21.960 --> 0:42:24.479
<v Speaker 2>and it doesn't leave a lot of hope, at least

0:42:24.480 --> 0:42:27.480
<v Speaker 2>in my mind. It reminds me, frankly, a lot of

0:42:27.560 --> 0:42:31.000
<v Speaker 2>like our current which I think is important to say.

0:42:31.080 --> 0:42:34.439
<v Speaker 2>It is the exact problem that we are facing down

0:42:34.480 --> 0:42:38.719
<v Speaker 2>with healthcare right that, like government funded healthcare is now

0:42:38.760 --> 0:42:41.560
<v Speaker 2>about to be put behind this weird wall where people

0:42:41.560 --> 0:42:44.480
<v Speaker 2>are going to have to like basically right in to

0:42:44.600 --> 0:42:47.120
<v Speaker 2>explain what they do for a living and how they

0:42:47.239 --> 0:42:51.040
<v Speaker 2>how they made money in order to qualify for Medicare Medicaid,

0:42:52.000 --> 0:42:54.600
<v Speaker 2>And in doing that, you're putting a bunch of people

0:42:54.600 --> 0:42:57.760
<v Speaker 2>in a position where either they can't justify making money

0:42:58.360 --> 0:43:02.000
<v Speaker 2>or they aren't able to write you because they don't

0:43:02.040 --> 0:43:05.799
<v Speaker 2>have access to computers and don't understand the time.

0:43:05.880 --> 0:43:07.759
<v Speaker 1>That's all design too, ye know.

0:43:08.000 --> 0:43:09.680
<v Speaker 4>I feel like if you if you oh you talk

0:43:09.719 --> 0:43:13.239
<v Speaker 4>about in the BBB, Yeah, part of the beautiful Billy.

0:43:13.320 --> 0:43:15.359
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, they got that designed, they got that. It's all.

0:43:15.440 --> 0:43:20.440
<v Speaker 2>But that's why they're like.

0:43:19.680 --> 0:43:22.440
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I'm like, yeah, that's what they said they were

0:43:22.440 --> 0:43:26.600
<v Speaker 1>going to do. They want us, They want you like stupid, hungry, misinformed,

0:43:26.640 --> 0:43:30.400
<v Speaker 1>and sick. Like it's easier to It's an uneducated populace

0:43:30.440 --> 0:43:33.320
<v Speaker 1>is easily controlled, and an uneducated populace that is sick

0:43:33.560 --> 0:43:36.839
<v Speaker 1>is even easier. So it's like, I think the through

0:43:36.880 --> 0:43:38.719
<v Speaker 1>line that's kind of the silver lining is when you

0:43:38.719 --> 0:43:40.880
<v Speaker 1>do these things before you didn't, like, even though the

0:43:40.880 --> 0:43:45.239
<v Speaker 1>Internet is probably chaotic neutral, it's like we can see

0:43:45.280 --> 0:43:48.120
<v Speaker 1>in other countries that healthcare is just a right, like

0:43:48.200 --> 0:43:50.400
<v Speaker 1>people just get taken care of. Like my friends that

0:43:50.400 --> 0:43:52.879
<v Speaker 1>aren't from here. It's cheap for them to fly home

0:43:52.920 --> 0:43:55.520
<v Speaker 1>first class to go to the doctor, like my friends

0:43:55.520 --> 0:43:57.840
<v Speaker 1>from Japan. She's like, she had to get a knee surgery.

0:43:57.920 --> 0:44:01.120
<v Speaker 1>She flew to Japan a first ticket and hotel and

0:44:01.560 --> 0:44:04.000
<v Speaker 1>was cheaper than the option of getting surgery in America.

0:44:04.160 --> 0:44:04.719
<v Speaker 2>Crazy.

0:44:05.040 --> 0:44:08.360
<v Speaker 1>And I'm just like, I think seeing that before you

0:44:08.360 --> 0:44:10.239
<v Speaker 1>could have kept people kind of isolated. But now it's

0:44:10.239 --> 0:44:12.440
<v Speaker 1>like you can see what's happening in other parts of

0:44:12.440 --> 0:44:13.960
<v Speaker 1>the country and other parts of the world, which I

0:44:13.960 --> 0:44:17.200
<v Speaker 1>think will ultimately be of benefit. I think Martin Luther

0:44:17.280 --> 0:44:19.800
<v Speaker 1>King said it like the moral arc of the universe

0:44:19.880 --> 0:44:21.960
<v Speaker 1>is long, but it bends towards justice, Like I'm still

0:44:22.000 --> 0:44:22.680
<v Speaker 1>waiting for that.

0:44:22.719 --> 0:44:25.919
<v Speaker 2>Justice bend to come. You know, shorty string my way,

0:44:26.600 --> 0:44:34.799
<v Speaker 2>You're the first I've ever seen quote doctor King while

0:44:34.880 --> 0:44:40.680
<v Speaker 2>rolling their eyes. I don't know this motherfucker said something like.

0:44:42.360 --> 0:44:45.480
<v Speaker 4>I guess some ship. I think you're the first person

0:44:45.480 --> 0:44:49.600
<v Speaker 4>in a pair of doctor King with I don't know

0:44:49.600 --> 0:44:51.959
<v Speaker 4>what the just happened. Oh my god, I was gonna

0:44:51.960 --> 0:44:54.400
<v Speaker 4>say a KP and envy quote and then you know, no.

0:44:54.840 --> 0:44:55.640
<v Speaker 2>It would have been great.

0:44:55.760 --> 0:44:59.680
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, yeah, I really like that song. A great songs,

0:44:59.719 --> 0:45:03.200
<v Speaker 4>really good. What happened to them? Probably drugs? There was

0:45:03.200 --> 0:45:04.400
<v Speaker 4>a white one.

0:45:04.840 --> 0:45:06.160
<v Speaker 2>She was really light skinned.

0:45:06.239 --> 0:45:17.759
<v Speaker 1>I watch video the other day. Yeah that the girl

0:45:17.760 --> 0:45:20.560
<v Speaker 1>from Sinners was the girl from Sinners and show the swing.

0:45:26.880 --> 0:45:29.719
<v Speaker 2>Breaking. We're gonna come back and we're gonna do a

0:45:29.760 --> 0:45:33.000
<v Speaker 2>voicemail together. Okay more Blake Lee Thornton More. My mama

0:45:33.080 --> 0:45:33.480
<v Speaker 2>told me.

0:45:35.760 --> 0:45:45.440
<v Speaker 5>Yeah, look, if you hate cops just because of cops,

0:45:46.040 --> 0:45:48.920
<v Speaker 5>the next time you get in trouble, call a crackhead.

0:45:49.520 --> 0:45:52.399
<v Speaker 2>Mm hmm, don't call us, we don't care. We're back.

0:45:54.920 --> 0:45:57.040
<v Speaker 3>Actually call us. So we're gonna do a voicemailer.

0:45:57.480 --> 0:45:59.719
<v Speaker 2>The colors A four four Little Moms if you ever

0:45:59.760 --> 0:46:01.480
<v Speaker 2>want to send us a voicemail, and we're going to

0:46:01.520 --> 0:46:05.920
<v Speaker 2>do one together. Now here we go. I landed on

0:46:06.000 --> 0:46:08.840
<v Speaker 2>something that that sparked my interests. Who knows what the

0:46:08.880 --> 0:46:10.880
<v Speaker 2>fuck it is. We'll listen to it together.

0:46:11.719 --> 0:46:16.839
<v Speaker 8>Hey, y'all, first time caller, only recent listener. I love

0:46:16.920 --> 0:46:19.960
<v Speaker 8>your podcast. I have a conspiracy that I don't know

0:46:20.000 --> 0:46:21.600
<v Speaker 8>it's been brought up in the show before because I

0:46:21.600 --> 0:46:25.799
<v Speaker 8>haven't seen all the episodes. My conspiracy dates back to

0:46:25.880 --> 0:46:30.920
<v Speaker 8>twenty twenty one, shortly after this whole big thing of

0:46:31.760 --> 0:46:35.080
<v Speaker 8>a chicken wing shortage happening. I'm not sure if y'all

0:46:35.120 --> 0:46:36.880
<v Speaker 8>remember that, but suddenly stop.

0:46:37.120 --> 0:46:38.120
<v Speaker 3>Comes up too much.

0:46:40.040 --> 0:46:42.040
<v Speaker 2>Literally just yesterday we talked about it.

0:46:42.040 --> 0:46:46.600
<v Speaker 4>Literally yesterday there was a shortage the demonstrating COVID.

0:46:46.840 --> 0:46:50.239
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, yes, right, yeah, yeah, And this brother wants you

0:46:50.320 --> 0:46:51.520
<v Speaker 2>to open your eyes about it.

0:46:51.600 --> 0:46:52.880
<v Speaker 3>No, he's gonna go somewhere with it.

0:46:52.960 --> 0:46:54.480
<v Speaker 2>Let's let's sebody say.

0:46:54.680 --> 0:46:58.160
<v Speaker 8>Wing Stop started selling chicken thighs, and then after the

0:46:58.239 --> 0:47:02.799
<v Speaker 8>chicken thigh movement disappeared, wing Stop then starts to sell wings.

0:47:03.280 --> 0:47:06.640
<v Speaker 8>So my conspiracy is about seventy five percent, at least

0:47:06.680 --> 0:47:08.640
<v Speaker 8>seventy five percent of the chicken wings sold in the

0:47:08.719 --> 0:47:12.000
<v Speaker 8>US since twenty twenty have not been that of the

0:47:12.000 --> 0:47:14.080
<v Speaker 8>wings of a chicken, because a lot of them no

0:47:14.120 --> 0:47:16.719
<v Speaker 8>longer say chicken wings. They just say wings.

0:47:17.400 --> 0:47:21.719
<v Speaker 2>Whoa wait, So what what's the wing? Wing of what? Yeah?

0:47:21.719 --> 0:47:25.080
<v Speaker 2>The wing of what he's putting that on? Oh that's

0:47:27.239 --> 0:47:29.799
<v Speaker 2>he's Look man, I'm not a scientist, but you are.

0:47:30.960 --> 0:47:32.680
<v Speaker 3>I also love the chicken thigh movement.

0:47:32.840 --> 0:47:36.360
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, the chicken thigh movement. I think the primary issue

0:47:36.360 --> 0:47:39.120
<v Speaker 1>with this caller is that ninety percent of their meals

0:47:39.120 --> 0:47:39.840
<v Speaker 1>are at wingstop.

0:47:40.160 --> 0:47:42.040
<v Speaker 2>Let's go. He didn't know it.

0:47:42.120 --> 0:47:44.360
<v Speaker 4>That is a crazy thing to notice. He's like, notice

0:47:44.360 --> 0:47:47.480
<v Speaker 4>they stopped saying chicken wings. I'm like, no, I didn't.

0:47:50.480 --> 0:47:51.080
<v Speaker 2>Stop. Stop.

0:47:51.200 --> 0:47:52.279
<v Speaker 1>I think you need to take it up with Rick

0:47:52.360 --> 0:47:54.640
<v Speaker 1>Ross Oross the box.

0:47:54.640 --> 0:47:56.719
<v Speaker 2>I'll tell you what the fuck is going on there? Yeah,

0:47:56.760 --> 0:47:57.040
<v Speaker 2>I don't.

0:47:57.080 --> 0:47:57.399
<v Speaker 8>I don't.

0:47:57.560 --> 0:47:59.640
<v Speaker 2>I don't know if it's called chicken or not chicken.

0:48:00.160 --> 0:48:01.520
<v Speaker 2>Just uh, just be eating it.

0:48:01.640 --> 0:48:05.160
<v Speaker 1>I look at labels, so I do, and I would

0:48:05.400 --> 0:48:08.000
<v Speaker 1>encourage everyone to go to the grocery store and cook

0:48:08.040 --> 0:48:08.319
<v Speaker 1>a meal.

0:48:08.560 --> 0:48:11.160
<v Speaker 2>Was the last time you had some chicken wings two.

0:48:11.040 --> 0:48:15.040
<v Speaker 1>Days ago and made them chicken wings?

0:48:15.080 --> 0:48:16.319
<v Speaker 2>Yeah? Okay, what do you buy?

0:48:16.320 --> 0:48:18.320
<v Speaker 3>Like a bag full of bagful of d get backful

0:48:18.320 --> 0:48:18.760
<v Speaker 3>of drumats?

0:48:18.840 --> 0:48:23.600
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, like Trader Joe's or like Whole Foods unfortunately sometimes Yeah.

0:48:25.480 --> 0:48:27.359
<v Speaker 2>I try not to go to anywhere Amazon own. But

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<v Speaker 2>you know what I mean? Now, do shut the up?

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<v Speaker 2>Shut the fuck up. Do any of us know for

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<v Speaker 2>sure why that wing shortage happened? What was the cause

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<v Speaker 2>of the wings short No? I don't know.

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<v Speaker 4>I just I remember feverishly texting with a friend of mine,

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<v Speaker 4>like we are.

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<v Speaker 1>I thought it was something about actually just the logistics

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<v Speaker 1>of like getting a farmer's getting produced to places without

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<v Speaker 1>touching anyone. I think it was like a COVID lag

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<v Speaker 1>of just logistics and everything, like breaking down the chicken

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<v Speaker 1>that cluse that like, even though it was I'm sure

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<v Speaker 1>it's wildly mechanized at this point, but I think it

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<v Speaker 1>was just logistics of I think also birds were getting COVID,

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<v Speaker 1>were they not?

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<v Speaker 2>It says it was largely a supply chain labor issue,

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<v Speaker 2>a weather events national brand that they're listing other possible causes,

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<v Speaker 2>but I think it was supply chain shit.

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<v Speaker 4>I will say to put my tinfoil hat on. There

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<v Speaker 4>was a lot of wild chicken moves during COVID.

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<v Speaker 2>Chicken.

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<v Speaker 3>Chicken was moving funny.

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<v Speaker 2>The thigh movement.

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<v Speaker 3>What was that all about?

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, the Popeye chicken sandwich.

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<v Speaker 4>I'm saying chicken was moving goofy chickens.

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<v Speaker 2>COVID. Chicken was moving.

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<v Speaker 1>Goofy before COVID though, the Popeye sandwich line, what the

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<v Speaker 1>fuck was that?

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<v Speaker 2>That was COVID? That was that was people were getting

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<v Speaker 2>in line during COVID. That's why it was so crazy.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I blocked a lot of that out, like the

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<v Speaker 1>Smiths stuff.

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<v Speaker 2>I think. I think I think in my most dark

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<v Speaker 2>times and my most optimistic, I go, they were giving

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<v Speaker 2>us a reason to keep wanting to live and that, Yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>I think I think that's how little that dark. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>I think they were like, give the animals something to celebrate.

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<v Speaker 2>They're going through a lot right now.

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<v Speaker 1>Wow, Okay, I don't have it's like that's.

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<v Speaker 2>The thought you.

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<v Speaker 7>I'm just sad now a lot today.

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<v Speaker 4>At least I know we learned that we're going to

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<v Speaker 4>move a little differently through this world. Yes, and I'm

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<v Speaker 4>thankful for you to you forgive me.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, take up space, punch of White Lady.

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<v Speaker 10>Not me.

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<v Speaker 1>But yeah, yeah, we can do to emotional violence at

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<v Speaker 1>least I do, not physical.

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<v Speaker 2>And we're learning, you know, we're learning, yeah, living and learning. Likely.

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<v Speaker 2>Could you tell the people where they can find you

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<v Speaker 2>and you.

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<v Speaker 1>Can find me at blakely Thornton on Instagram and TikTok

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<v Speaker 1>and also the Yesterdays podcast out every Tuesday on Podcasts

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<v Speaker 1>One with Justin Sylvester and then soon to be on

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<v Speaker 1>a show called Running Dialogue, which is like hot ones

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<v Speaker 1>in a treadmill where I ask you questions.

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<v Speaker 2>If you don't answer, we speed up.

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<v Speaker 3>WHOA it's hard hitting question.

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<v Speaker 2>M hm. So you know you can answer. We can,

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<v Speaker 2>we can, we can die, we can go all right?

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<v Speaker 2>You know.

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<v Speaker 4>Boy, what you got you will catch me. Not on

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<v Speaker 4>the treadmill. I'm running from my own past. Uh No,

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