1 00:00:04,428 --> 00:00:06,668 Speaker 1: Good Morning Football is the production of the NFL in 2 00:00:06,748 --> 00:00:08,388 Speaker 1: partnership with iHeartRadio. 3 00:00:08,908 --> 00:00:12,028 Speaker 2: Welcome to Good Morning Football, presented by Old Trapper. 4 00:00:13,068 --> 00:00:14,548 Speaker 3: That's right, Welcome inside. 5 00:00:14,588 --> 00:00:16,748 Speaker 2: On a Thursday, we're gonna do a little throw down. 6 00:00:16,828 --> 00:00:19,468 Speaker 2: Feels different to say throwdown Thursday with Seth Freak and 7 00:00:19,548 --> 00:00:24,148 Speaker 2: rollins at the little Yet you are on the IR 8 00:00:24,308 --> 00:00:27,428 Speaker 2: from the circuit right now, how's your wing feeling? 9 00:00:27,708 --> 00:00:29,468 Speaker 4: We'll get it though it's out of the brace. Yes, 10 00:00:29,748 --> 00:00:32,228 Speaker 4: it's out of the braces. It can move it to 11 00:00:32,268 --> 00:00:33,148 Speaker 4: a point, to a point. 12 00:00:33,468 --> 00:00:35,548 Speaker 3: But can you throw anybody across the ring? 13 00:00:35,668 --> 00:00:35,868 Speaker 5: Yet? 14 00:00:36,028 --> 00:00:38,708 Speaker 4: Certainly cannot cannot climb a cage, cannot throw a body 15 00:00:38,708 --> 00:00:40,348 Speaker 4: across the ring, can't do anything like that. 16 00:00:40,388 --> 00:00:43,668 Speaker 6: But I can move it. Yes, great, this is progress 17 00:00:43,708 --> 00:00:43,908 Speaker 6: for me. 18 00:00:44,188 --> 00:00:47,068 Speaker 2: You can verbally throw someone across the GMFB table for 19 00:00:47,148 --> 00:00:47,988 Speaker 2: Throwdown Thursday? 20 00:00:48,148 --> 00:00:49,268 Speaker 3: Shall we crowd? 21 00:00:50,108 --> 00:00:50,508 Speaker 6: Let's go? 22 00:00:50,588 --> 00:00:50,788 Speaker 5: Man? 23 00:00:50,788 --> 00:00:54,508 Speaker 2: That was well timed. Cowboys Lions, Thursday Night Football. It's 24 00:00:54,548 --> 00:00:58,068 Speaker 2: happening tonight, big time game with big time implications. So 25 00:00:58,388 --> 00:01:02,068 Speaker 2: here's the scenario, the first one for throwdown Thursday. What 26 00:01:02,228 --> 00:01:05,748 Speaker 2: scenario is more likely to happen this hostseason? Did the 27 00:01:05,788 --> 00:01:10,068 Speaker 2: Cowboys end their longest active NFC Championship game appearance throughout 28 00:01:10,068 --> 00:01:13,588 Speaker 2: which last happened in nineteen ninety five, or Man Tai, 29 00:01:14,188 --> 00:01:17,028 Speaker 2: do the Lions make their first ever Super Bowl appearance? 30 00:01:18,068 --> 00:01:19,388 Speaker 7: Oh wow? 31 00:01:19,868 --> 00:01:22,188 Speaker 8: I would say, based on how these two teams are 32 00:01:22,228 --> 00:01:24,548 Speaker 8: playing currently, I would have to go it is more 33 00:01:24,708 --> 00:01:27,508 Speaker 8: likely that the Cowboys would attain that goal of making 34 00:01:27,508 --> 00:01:31,868 Speaker 8: it to the NFC Championship their offense George Pickens CD LAMB. 35 00:01:31,868 --> 00:01:33,868 Speaker 8: But more importantly, I want to focus on their defense, 36 00:01:33,868 --> 00:01:37,188 Speaker 8: what Clinton Williams that acquisition has done for them. They 37 00:01:37,188 --> 00:01:39,508 Speaker 8: are now the best rush defense in the NFL. The 38 00:01:39,508 --> 00:01:42,308 Speaker 8: past three weeks, they've had the second most QB hits 39 00:01:42,748 --> 00:01:45,788 Speaker 8: in the NFL, and they lead the NFL QB pressure. 40 00:01:45,868 --> 00:01:46,908 Speaker 7: So we already knew what we. 41 00:01:46,788 --> 00:01:49,308 Speaker 8: Were getting with the offense and Dak Prescott and that 42 00:01:49,308 --> 00:01:52,548 Speaker 8: whole regime. The biggest question and biggest source spot was 43 00:01:52,948 --> 00:01:53,668 Speaker 8: that defense. 44 00:01:53,908 --> 00:01:55,788 Speaker 7: In the past three weeks three weeks. 45 00:01:55,468 --> 00:01:58,828 Speaker 8: They've been possibly the best defense in performance. So I 46 00:01:58,828 --> 00:02:01,348 Speaker 8: would have to say, Jane, if I had to guess, 47 00:02:01,508 --> 00:02:02,788 Speaker 8: it would have to be something to do with the 48 00:02:03,188 --> 00:02:04,388 Speaker 8: Dallas Cowboys, Jason could. 49 00:02:04,908 --> 00:02:06,468 Speaker 9: Yeah, I'm gonna have to agree with you, Man Tai. 50 00:02:06,548 --> 00:02:09,468 Speaker 9: I think for me, it's really unfortunate. But towards the 51 00:02:09,588 --> 00:02:12,068 Speaker 9: end of these years, we've been looking at the Detroit 52 00:02:12,148 --> 00:02:15,108 Speaker 9: Lions and we've been talking about injuries. I'm a Ross 53 00:02:15,108 --> 00:02:19,988 Speaker 9: Saint Brown, Sam Laporta, Kirby, Joseph Terry On Arnold. So 54 00:02:20,108 --> 00:02:23,468 Speaker 9: it's it's unfortunate because they got a physical style of play, 55 00:02:23,788 --> 00:02:25,468 Speaker 9: but it just seems these last few years that it's 56 00:02:25,508 --> 00:02:28,348 Speaker 9: kind of been biting him in the butt towards the 57 00:02:28,508 --> 00:02:30,188 Speaker 9: end of these years, where we don't feel like we're 58 00:02:30,228 --> 00:02:33,308 Speaker 9: seeing fully healthy Lions teams at their full potential. For 59 00:02:33,388 --> 00:02:35,748 Speaker 9: that reason, plus, when you look at the remaining schedule, 60 00:02:35,868 --> 00:02:39,028 Speaker 9: you still talking about the Rams, Cowboys obviously tonight, as 61 00:02:39,028 --> 00:02:41,788 Speaker 9: well as the Bears, who are leading the NFC. It's 62 00:02:41,788 --> 00:02:43,148 Speaker 9: hard for me to see them go to the Super 63 00:02:43,148 --> 00:02:45,588 Speaker 9: Bowl knowing that they might only go three and two 64 00:02:45,948 --> 00:02:47,788 Speaker 9: in these next five games that they have to finish 65 00:02:47,828 --> 00:02:48,148 Speaker 9: the year. 66 00:02:48,308 --> 00:02:49,308 Speaker 10: I gotta go Dallas. 67 00:02:51,948 --> 00:02:57,748 Speaker 4: God, can we pick neither neither? Like neither of these 68 00:02:57,748 --> 00:03:00,188 Speaker 4: things are likely. I mean, I guess if one is 69 00:03:00,548 --> 00:03:05,508 Speaker 4: more less likely or going to be a wordsmith on 70 00:03:05,548 --> 00:03:07,948 Speaker 4: this one. I mean, look, at the end of the day, 71 00:03:08,388 --> 00:03:11,748 Speaker 4: the Cowboys are hot, but the Lions. I still think 72 00:03:11,788 --> 00:03:14,428 Speaker 4: are a better team. They're a better coach team. I 73 00:03:14,468 --> 00:03:16,828 Speaker 4: know they're not like playing the best right now, and 74 00:03:16,828 --> 00:03:19,908 Speaker 4: they're not like the sexy team on everybody's tongue at 75 00:03:19,908 --> 00:03:22,468 Speaker 4: the moment, but they still got Dan Campbell at the 76 00:03:22,508 --> 00:03:24,668 Speaker 4: helm right and they're still going to get the job 77 00:03:24,708 --> 00:03:25,748 Speaker 4: done if they need to. 78 00:03:26,068 --> 00:03:26,748 Speaker 6: I think they're going to. 79 00:03:26,748 --> 00:03:27,468 Speaker 10: Go to the Super Bowl. 80 00:03:28,428 --> 00:03:30,948 Speaker 4: No, but is it more likely than Dallas gets to 81 00:03:30,948 --> 00:03:33,628 Speaker 4: the NFC Championship? Yeah? 82 00:03:33,788 --> 00:03:36,108 Speaker 3: Probably not answer that. 83 00:03:36,188 --> 00:03:36,748 Speaker 5: I don't know. 84 00:03:37,508 --> 00:03:38,908 Speaker 6: I'll go with Detroit on that one. 85 00:03:38,948 --> 00:03:39,308 Speaker 7: I think. 86 00:03:39,468 --> 00:03:41,748 Speaker 4: I still think if they can like circle the wagons, 87 00:03:41,828 --> 00:03:42,988 Speaker 4: they can still get the job done. 88 00:03:42,988 --> 00:03:44,108 Speaker 6: I mean, they got the players there. 89 00:03:44,188 --> 00:03:47,228 Speaker 4: If everybody can somewhat get healthy, Dan Campbell might be 90 00:03:47,268 --> 00:03:49,308 Speaker 4: able to will this team to the super Bowl. 91 00:03:49,308 --> 00:03:52,108 Speaker 6: I don't know, maybe maybe maybe maybe. 92 00:03:52,548 --> 00:03:54,428 Speaker 5: Your energy for this question, I appreciate. 93 00:03:54,548 --> 00:03:56,988 Speaker 1: It's like it's like you're in a submission hol like 94 00:03:57,028 --> 00:03:58,868 Speaker 1: Brett Hart has you in the Sharp Shooter and you 95 00:03:58,948 --> 00:04:01,028 Speaker 1: just don't you don't want to tap, and the referees 96 00:04:01,068 --> 00:04:02,548 Speaker 1: checking in with you and you're like, no, no, no, 97 00:04:02,628 --> 00:04:04,068 Speaker 1: you just you're so uncomfortable. 98 00:04:04,188 --> 00:04:05,988 Speaker 5: I get it, man, I get it completely, you know, 99 00:04:06,028 --> 00:04:06,508 Speaker 5: what I'm saying. 100 00:04:07,268 --> 00:04:10,628 Speaker 4: Yeah, I don't it's not good. It just doesn't Wait, 101 00:04:11,108 --> 00:04:13,668 Speaker 4: you're wrong either way, you're wrong, you know, Yeah, I 102 00:04:13,708 --> 00:04:14,508 Speaker 4: don't know. 103 00:04:14,388 --> 00:04:16,428 Speaker 2: You want to throw that guy over your shoulder and 104 00:04:16,468 --> 00:04:17,428 Speaker 2: just scream bear down. 105 00:04:17,468 --> 00:04:18,428 Speaker 6: I guess what I want. 106 00:04:18,548 --> 00:04:18,708 Speaker 11: Yeah. 107 00:04:18,788 --> 00:04:20,028 Speaker 12: Can we get to the Bears question? 108 00:04:21,468 --> 00:04:23,268 Speaker 10: Can we just talk about the Bears waiting? 109 00:04:23,988 --> 00:04:25,748 Speaker 5: Got well? 110 00:04:25,788 --> 00:04:29,028 Speaker 1: Listen, Bears, Bears played both those teams. They beat the Cowboys, 111 00:04:29,068 --> 00:04:30,988 Speaker 1: they got destroyed by the Lions. But that feels like 112 00:04:31,028 --> 00:04:32,828 Speaker 1: two years ago, and it feels like a different Bears 113 00:04:32,828 --> 00:04:35,828 Speaker 1: team and a different Lions team. Jamie, my answer is 114 00:04:35,868 --> 00:04:39,148 Speaker 1: the Lions here because I don't think and I'm gonna 115 00:04:39,148 --> 00:04:40,828 Speaker 1: be very disappointed if I'm right about that. I don't 116 00:04:40,828 --> 00:04:42,828 Speaker 1: think the Cowboys are gonna make the playoffs. And you 117 00:04:42,908 --> 00:04:45,188 Speaker 1: know why, Jamie, Look at the bottom of the screen, 118 00:04:45,788 --> 00:04:50,148 Speaker 1: six five and one, and that tie is going to 119 00:04:50,348 --> 00:04:53,228 Speaker 1: end up screwing them and maybe screwing the Packers too. 120 00:04:53,708 --> 00:04:58,108 Speaker 1: Ties always complicate the playoff scenario. If they were seven 121 00:04:58,148 --> 00:05:00,828 Speaker 1: and five right now, we're dancing, baby, But that's six 122 00:05:01,028 --> 00:05:03,588 Speaker 1: five and one, My favorite little one in the entire 123 00:05:03,668 --> 00:05:06,348 Speaker 1: world of New is going to keep the Cowboys out 124 00:05:06,388 --> 00:05:08,428 Speaker 1: of the playoffs, and it's going to be hilarious. So 125 00:05:08,508 --> 00:05:10,028 Speaker 1: I would say it's Detroit just by default. 126 00:05:10,188 --> 00:05:11,388 Speaker 3: You're a sick puppy, Kyle. 127 00:05:11,508 --> 00:05:15,228 Speaker 2: You just keep bringing up that tie anytime we have 128 00:05:15,308 --> 00:05:17,788 Speaker 2: a little lull and entertainment. Call's like, but what about 129 00:05:17,788 --> 00:05:21,908 Speaker 2: that tie in the NFC? Moving on and throw it 130 00:05:21,908 --> 00:05:25,468 Speaker 2: down Thursday Sunday the Bears will have there. 131 00:05:25,468 --> 00:05:27,588 Speaker 3: We go, good guys, Seth's like, bring it in for 132 00:05:27,668 --> 00:05:29,348 Speaker 3: the real thing, Bears Packers. 133 00:05:29,348 --> 00:05:32,028 Speaker 2: It's the two hundred and eleventh time these two teams 134 00:05:32,068 --> 00:05:34,428 Speaker 2: will play against each other, which includes the playoffs, actually 135 00:05:34,668 --> 00:05:37,268 Speaker 2: is the most in NFL history, which makes it a 136 00:05:37,308 --> 00:05:39,868 Speaker 2: classic and legendary matchup and rivalry. 137 00:05:40,148 --> 00:05:41,228 Speaker 3: In case you're wondering. 138 00:05:41,028 --> 00:05:44,268 Speaker 2: The Packers, the Packers do hold the all time series 139 00:05:44,348 --> 00:05:46,228 Speaker 2: lead one hundred and eight to ninety. 140 00:05:45,948 --> 00:05:46,788 Speaker 3: Six and six. 141 00:05:46,908 --> 00:05:49,828 Speaker 2: One Bay head coach Matt Lafour was asked his strategy 142 00:05:50,068 --> 00:05:52,988 Speaker 2: since he has to face Chicago twice now in the 143 00:05:53,028 --> 00:05:54,068 Speaker 2: next three weeks. 144 00:05:55,268 --> 00:05:58,908 Speaker 13: Well, you only show half your game plan, So no, 145 00:05:59,348 --> 00:06:02,268 Speaker 13: it's a unique deal. I don't think it's happened to 146 00:06:02,348 --> 00:06:07,108 Speaker 13: us very much. Oh. I think there's a little bit 147 00:06:07,108 --> 00:06:10,268 Speaker 13: of an unknown to that. But it is what it is. 148 00:06:10,308 --> 00:06:12,348 Speaker 13: Every week, it's a new week in this league, and 149 00:06:12,548 --> 00:06:15,428 Speaker 13: just know that there's going to be adjustments, just like 150 00:06:15,468 --> 00:06:19,108 Speaker 13: there's adjustments in game, and you get to try to 151 00:06:19,108 --> 00:06:21,028 Speaker 13: stay one step ahead of the competition. 152 00:06:22,028 --> 00:06:25,948 Speaker 2: He seems so passive, So chill at that podium. He's prepared, 153 00:06:26,068 --> 00:06:28,868 Speaker 2: but only going to show half his hand. Manti, Which 154 00:06:28,908 --> 00:06:30,988 Speaker 2: game plan will we be talking about. 155 00:06:30,748 --> 00:06:31,828 Speaker 3: More come Monday? 156 00:06:32,228 --> 00:06:33,908 Speaker 2: Is it the Bears than how they took down the 157 00:06:33,908 --> 00:06:35,708 Speaker 2: Packers or vice versa. 158 00:06:35,828 --> 00:06:38,548 Speaker 8: I'm going to go specifically with that man, the Packers 159 00:06:38,588 --> 00:06:39,748 Speaker 8: head coach, Matt Lafleur. 160 00:06:39,868 --> 00:06:41,188 Speaker 7: That's the game plan that we're going. 161 00:06:41,108 --> 00:06:44,228 Speaker 8: To be talking about, specifically on the offensive side of 162 00:06:44,228 --> 00:06:47,148 Speaker 8: the ball. If you watched last week when they played 163 00:06:47,188 --> 00:06:49,708 Speaker 8: the Lions, that was the most fourth down attempts that 164 00:06:49,748 --> 00:06:53,028 Speaker 8: Matt Lafleur has done in one game as a Packer 165 00:06:53,068 --> 00:06:55,508 Speaker 8: head coach, and that's the most that converted. There were 166 00:06:55,548 --> 00:06:57,828 Speaker 8: three for three on fourth down, two of them were 167 00:06:57,948 --> 00:07:00,788 Speaker 8: touchdowns and one of them was they sealed the game 168 00:07:01,548 --> 00:07:05,628 Speaker 8: to Wicks. You don't You cannot tell me that somebody 169 00:07:05,628 --> 00:07:08,548 Speaker 8: like Matt Laflour after what Ben Johnson said about him 170 00:07:08,628 --> 00:07:11,588 Speaker 8: and the record, and have him like really enjoying beating in. 171 00:07:11,588 --> 00:07:12,348 Speaker 7: The Packers twice. 172 00:07:12,428 --> 00:07:15,348 Speaker 8: Yere that this guy hasn't marked and circled this game. 173 00:07:15,508 --> 00:07:17,948 Speaker 7: Obviously this is a historically a big game. 174 00:07:18,308 --> 00:07:21,068 Speaker 8: But for those comments that Ben Johnson had to say 175 00:07:21,068 --> 00:07:24,268 Speaker 8: about him before the season began, I am going to 176 00:07:24,348 --> 00:07:26,668 Speaker 8: be locked into what Matt Laflour has to say and 177 00:07:26,708 --> 00:07:28,148 Speaker 8: what he calls and I think we're going to be 178 00:07:28,228 --> 00:07:30,148 Speaker 8: talking about that a lot on this show. 179 00:07:30,268 --> 00:07:31,548 Speaker 7: Jason combinda for me. 180 00:07:31,628 --> 00:07:33,508 Speaker 9: I mean, it's got to be Ben Johnson, right, Like 181 00:07:33,548 --> 00:07:35,148 Speaker 9: we heard what he said in the press conference. 182 00:07:35,148 --> 00:07:37,308 Speaker 10: He loves beating Matt Lafloor twice a year. 183 00:07:37,348 --> 00:07:39,828 Speaker 9: So that means all the tricks are coming out of 184 00:07:39,828 --> 00:07:42,388 Speaker 9: the sleeve, right, That's this is the game that the 185 00:07:42,468 --> 00:07:45,108 Speaker 9: tricks come out, right. I don't think anybody has had 186 00:07:45,108 --> 00:07:48,668 Speaker 9: the run of the trick plays that Ben Johnson's had 187 00:07:48,708 --> 00:07:50,828 Speaker 9: in the last few years, maybe other than Andy Reid 188 00:07:50,908 --> 00:07:52,988 Speaker 9: himself over the Kansas City Chiefs. 189 00:07:53,308 --> 00:07:55,188 Speaker 10: Ben Johnson right now is the master of it. 190 00:07:55,548 --> 00:07:59,988 Speaker 9: Flea flickers, reverse passes, late tight end leak outs. I mean, 191 00:08:00,068 --> 00:08:02,708 Speaker 9: it's exciting stuff. Look at this Caleb Williams of Philly 192 00:08:02,748 --> 00:08:05,668 Speaker 9: Special out in the end zone, this is stuff that's 193 00:08:05,668 --> 00:08:06,188 Speaker 9: fun to watch. 194 00:08:06,228 --> 00:08:08,988 Speaker 10: And I just got a really good feeling that Ben. 195 00:08:08,828 --> 00:08:11,908 Speaker 9: Johnson's gonna put his troll uniform on and he's gonna 196 00:08:11,948 --> 00:08:14,628 Speaker 9: do some stuff that makes Mattlifore really shake his head. 197 00:08:14,868 --> 00:08:17,068 Speaker 9: So let's see what Ben Dobbs gotta call. I think 198 00:08:17,068 --> 00:08:18,228 Speaker 9: it's gonna be an exciting game. 199 00:08:19,228 --> 00:08:23,828 Speaker 4: Ah, finally the time has come we can talk about 200 00:08:23,868 --> 00:08:25,708 Speaker 4: the Bears and cooks thing. 201 00:08:25,948 --> 00:08:26,468 Speaker 10: Guys. 202 00:08:27,028 --> 00:08:30,268 Speaker 4: Everybody's talking about the Bears. Everybody's talking about the Bears, 203 00:08:30,268 --> 00:08:33,628 Speaker 4: nobody's talking about the Packers. And come Monday, after the 204 00:08:33,668 --> 00:08:38,148 Speaker 4: Bears stop the Packers at lambeau Field, everybody's gonna be 205 00:08:38,188 --> 00:08:41,948 Speaker 4: talking about the Bears. Everybody's gonna be talking about Ben Johnson, 206 00:08:42,228 --> 00:08:44,588 Speaker 4: Caleb Williams. The Bears are the sexy team in the 207 00:08:44,668 --> 00:08:48,068 Speaker 4: NFL right now, and I love it. Jump on the wagon, guys. 208 00:08:48,268 --> 00:08:48,628 Speaker 6: Come on. 209 00:08:48,668 --> 00:08:51,108 Speaker 4: And here's the thing. If the Bears somehow lose here, 210 00:08:51,428 --> 00:08:53,188 Speaker 4: I don't think they will. I think they're gonna win. 211 00:08:53,548 --> 00:08:55,508 Speaker 4: But if they lose, we're still gonna be talking about 212 00:08:55,508 --> 00:08:57,388 Speaker 4: the Bears because everybody in the media loves to pile 213 00:08:57,428 --> 00:08:59,548 Speaker 4: on the Bears all They're not the team we thought 214 00:08:59,588 --> 00:09:02,508 Speaker 4: they were this and that. But I feel very strongly 215 00:09:02,588 --> 00:09:05,468 Speaker 4: coming out of this game either way. When we talk 216 00:09:05,508 --> 00:09:07,028 Speaker 4: about the Bears, let me talk about the Bears for 217 00:09:07,068 --> 00:09:09,708 Speaker 4: the rest of the season because it's a Bears yer. Baby, 218 00:09:09,828 --> 00:09:11,468 Speaker 4: let's go. I feel good about it. 219 00:09:11,508 --> 00:09:11,988 Speaker 6: I feel good. 220 00:09:12,188 --> 00:09:14,508 Speaker 4: No, there's no way we're talking about Lafleur, right, come on, 221 00:09:14,588 --> 00:09:17,988 Speaker 4: you got to talk about Ben Johnson Trick plays Chicago Bears. 222 00:09:18,068 --> 00:09:18,468 Speaker 6: I love it. 223 00:09:18,508 --> 00:09:21,068 Speaker 4: I'm so excited. I cannot wait for Sunday. Can we 224 00:09:21,068 --> 00:09:23,788 Speaker 4: get to it now? We'll skip it Friday Saturday. Just 225 00:09:24,068 --> 00:09:26,468 Speaker 4: let's just go to Sunday, Kyle, Let's just get to it. Man, 226 00:09:26,508 --> 00:09:27,508 Speaker 4: come on, let's just go. 227 00:09:28,228 --> 00:09:30,428 Speaker 1: I feel good that you feel good, Seth. I completely 228 00:09:30,428 --> 00:09:33,268 Speaker 1: pick up your vibe and I agree with you. Bears 229 00:09:33,308 --> 00:09:35,828 Speaker 1: when they're all the talk, Bears lose, they're all the talk. 230 00:09:35,868 --> 00:09:36,908 Speaker 5: I don't know if the Bears are. 231 00:09:36,788 --> 00:09:38,548 Speaker 1: Better than the Packers, but the Bears right now are 232 00:09:38,548 --> 00:09:40,788 Speaker 1: more interesting than the Packers. It's not a slight, it's 233 00:09:40,868 --> 00:09:44,468 Speaker 1: just that everything's new and improving. Caleb, Ben like, we 234 00:09:44,548 --> 00:09:46,188 Speaker 1: kind of know where the deals with the Packers, they're 235 00:09:46,188 --> 00:09:49,868 Speaker 1: always good. I would also say this to Cobenda's point, 236 00:09:50,428 --> 00:09:53,468 Speaker 1: idle hands of the Devil's workshop in terms of Ben 237 00:09:53,548 --> 00:09:58,188 Speaker 1: Johnson ingenuity, creativity. Remember nine days he has had to 238 00:09:58,188 --> 00:09:59,748 Speaker 1: sit around. They have been playing a long time. It 239 00:09:59,788 --> 00:10:01,508 Speaker 1: feels like a long time ago. They were in the 240 00:10:01,508 --> 00:10:04,308 Speaker 1: link and beating the Eagles. If you have idle time, 241 00:10:04,428 --> 00:10:07,148 Speaker 1: if you have extra time, you might use that time 242 00:10:07,188 --> 00:10:09,908 Speaker 1: to be maybe a little deeper in your bag of 243 00:10:10,068 --> 00:10:14,388 Speaker 1: ingenuity or creativity, or if you were saving something like 244 00:10:14,428 --> 00:10:16,868 Speaker 1: he has done before in past years with the Lions 245 00:10:16,908 --> 00:10:19,228 Speaker 1: and those big spots, they break out the crazy stuff. 246 00:10:19,788 --> 00:10:21,468 Speaker 5: I can see on look at that maniac. I mean, 247 00:10:21,508 --> 00:10:24,108 Speaker 5: what is that shot? What is he even doing? Oh 248 00:10:24,148 --> 00:10:26,148 Speaker 5: my gosh, he is so unusual. 249 00:10:26,588 --> 00:10:26,788 Speaker 10: You know. 250 00:10:26,788 --> 00:10:30,068 Speaker 1: One of the things I'll just outside bar this James. 251 00:10:30,548 --> 00:10:32,148 Speaker 1: I was with Caleb a couple of days ago. We 252 00:10:32,148 --> 00:10:34,908 Speaker 1: talked a lot about what Ben Johnson's like on game day, 253 00:10:35,188 --> 00:10:38,148 Speaker 1: just in his ear in the pregame during the game, 254 00:10:38,668 --> 00:10:42,108 Speaker 1: and he kept saying that, really nobody talks to Ben 255 00:10:42,188 --> 00:10:45,228 Speaker 1: Johnson during the games, And I'm like, what is the 256 00:10:45,228 --> 00:10:47,148 Speaker 1: head coach. He's like, well, you know, he confers with 257 00:10:47,188 --> 00:10:49,668 Speaker 1: his assistance, but like, we don't go talk to him. 258 00:10:50,028 --> 00:10:51,868 Speaker 1: He goes in his mode. And I was like, well, 259 00:10:51,908 --> 00:10:55,828 Speaker 1: what's his mode. He's like, it's complicated. He has a mode. 260 00:10:56,068 --> 00:10:57,788 Speaker 1: Like I need to know about the mode. He's like, 261 00:10:57,828 --> 00:11:00,628 Speaker 1: there's different levels of the mode. Sometimes he says crazy 262 00:11:00,628 --> 00:11:02,748 Speaker 1: stuff in my ear, like it's. 263 00:11:02,268 --> 00:11:03,188 Speaker 5: All over the maps. 264 00:11:03,268 --> 00:11:06,468 Speaker 1: So I think the mode for Dan Campbell and never 265 00:11:06,708 --> 00:11:09,588 Speaker 1: Ben Johnson, Dan Campbell's farmer as system. Going to Lambo 266 00:11:09,628 --> 00:11:11,468 Speaker 1: as the head coach for the first time is going 267 00:11:11,468 --> 00:11:13,148 Speaker 1: to be at a fifty out of ten. See that's 268 00:11:13,188 --> 00:11:15,068 Speaker 1: the mode right there. That's you're going to get a 269 00:11:15,068 --> 00:11:18,188 Speaker 1: lot of in Lambeau. So Seth is right, Bears when 270 00:11:18,748 --> 00:11:21,068 Speaker 1: they're ten and three, we talk about him. Bears lose 271 00:11:21,188 --> 00:11:23,108 Speaker 1: better believe we're going to be talking about him because 272 00:11:23,108 --> 00:11:24,988 Speaker 1: you called the packers out and you went to Lambo 273 00:11:25,028 --> 00:11:26,348 Speaker 1: and lost cale. 274 00:11:26,428 --> 00:11:28,668 Speaker 2: You know that phrase, the call is coming from inside 275 00:11:28,668 --> 00:11:29,108 Speaker 2: the house. 276 00:11:30,188 --> 00:11:30,388 Speaker 7: Yep. 277 00:11:30,948 --> 00:11:32,988 Speaker 3: So I just realized. 278 00:11:32,588 --> 00:11:36,508 Speaker 2: Something in your explanation of Caleb said about Ben Johnson 279 00:11:36,548 --> 00:11:38,308 Speaker 2: and how he goes into that mode and you're fascinated 280 00:11:38,308 --> 00:11:41,668 Speaker 2: about the mode. You do realize that that's literally how 281 00:11:41,708 --> 00:11:44,108 Speaker 2: everybody feels that works on this production. When you go 282 00:11:44,228 --> 00:11:46,788 Speaker 2: into the mode for angry runs, like you're literally Ben 283 00:11:46,908 --> 00:11:48,708 Speaker 2: Johnson on Tuesdays like. 284 00:11:48,948 --> 00:11:50,988 Speaker 3: You do the crazy inhale thing. 285 00:11:51,108 --> 00:11:53,308 Speaker 2: You do the thing where no one really talks to 286 00:11:53,348 --> 00:11:54,828 Speaker 2: you before angry runs. 287 00:11:54,868 --> 00:11:57,268 Speaker 3: You do that thing where like you are to. 288 00:11:57,228 --> 00:12:01,308 Speaker 2: Be unbothered and untouched before you are preparing for your performance. 289 00:12:01,468 --> 00:12:03,868 Speaker 3: Then you're in the mode don't talk to him, don't 290 00:12:03,908 --> 00:12:05,388 Speaker 3: be in his z and then you're out of it. 291 00:12:05,428 --> 00:12:07,468 Speaker 2: You're like, okay, cool, like you're approachable again. But like 292 00:12:07,508 --> 00:12:09,668 Speaker 2: that was like weird and dark at times, So like 293 00:12:10,068 --> 00:12:11,068 Speaker 2: that's the parallel. 294 00:12:11,108 --> 00:12:12,308 Speaker 3: I can't believe you haven't. 295 00:12:12,068 --> 00:12:15,388 Speaker 5: Seen it until now, Jamie. Thank you for saying that. 296 00:12:15,508 --> 00:12:16,708 Speaker 5: Let me just do my mode thing right here. 297 00:12:16,708 --> 00:12:18,588 Speaker 1: That thing you mentioned about the calls coming from inside 298 00:12:18,588 --> 00:12:20,828 Speaker 1: the house, it's from a movie called Black Christmas in 299 00:12:20,908 --> 00:12:23,148 Speaker 1: nineteen seventy four. Most people don't know that it's a 300 00:12:23,228 --> 00:12:26,108 Speaker 1: Christmas scary movie from the seventies, and that's where that 301 00:12:26,148 --> 00:12:29,108 Speaker 1: meme comes from. So kids, Black Christmas nineteen seventy four. 302 00:12:29,828 --> 00:12:30,628 Speaker 5: How wow? 303 00:12:30,788 --> 00:12:33,148 Speaker 3: Who's in it? Kyle who won the Oscar that year 304 00:12:33,268 --> 00:12:33,628 Speaker 3: for Beza? 305 00:12:33,828 --> 00:12:35,388 Speaker 1: I mean, if I mean honest, it sounds like it's 306 00:12:35,428 --> 00:12:37,028 Speaker 1: a Tyler Perry movie, but I don't think it is. 307 00:12:37,428 --> 00:12:39,708 Speaker 1: It's a different type of deal. I have never seen 308 00:12:39,708 --> 00:12:41,668 Speaker 1: it before. I just know that it comes from that movie. 309 00:12:42,668 --> 00:12:45,188 Speaker 2: That's your response to the fact that you are Ben Johnson, 310 00:12:45,188 --> 00:12:46,308 Speaker 2: and Ben Johnson is you. 311 00:12:46,308 --> 00:12:47,948 Speaker 3: You're not gonna have any take in the fact. 312 00:12:47,788 --> 00:12:49,348 Speaker 5: That you get that out there. People don't know about 313 00:12:49,348 --> 00:12:50,108 Speaker 5: Black Christmas. 314 00:12:50,188 --> 00:12:53,388 Speaker 9: And all I know is Caleb Williams is not lying whatsoever. 315 00:12:53,508 --> 00:12:57,268 Speaker 9: Because when we had been in Detroit in offensive coordinator mode, 316 00:12:57,388 --> 00:13:02,068 Speaker 9: this dude like Albert Einstein mixing chemicals and mixing. 317 00:13:01,628 --> 00:13:03,948 Speaker 10: All kinds of things and the experiment doesn't go right. 318 00:13:04,188 --> 00:13:05,588 Speaker 10: Nobody wanted to talk to him. 319 00:13:05,628 --> 00:13:08,948 Speaker 9: So I cannot imagine Ben Johnson in his head coaching 320 00:13:09,028 --> 00:13:09,508 Speaker 9: era the. 321 00:13:09,468 --> 00:13:11,788 Speaker 10: Type of aura he has on the sideline. 322 00:13:12,108 --> 00:13:13,988 Speaker 1: I highly doubt anybody who have been that remind me 323 00:13:14,668 --> 00:13:15,588 Speaker 1: was was Ben Johnson? 324 00:13:15,668 --> 00:13:16,788 Speaker 5: Was the sideline coordinator in. 325 00:13:16,788 --> 00:13:19,588 Speaker 10: The booth, Ben Ben yeh Ben did it both. 326 00:13:19,748 --> 00:13:21,508 Speaker 5: Okay, he did both when he was on the sideline. 327 00:13:21,548 --> 00:13:23,308 Speaker 9: What was he like when he was on the sideline, 328 00:13:23,348 --> 00:13:25,628 Speaker 9: Like I said, it's play sheet and no one is 329 00:13:25,668 --> 00:13:27,788 Speaker 9: near him, right right right, He's got like this five 330 00:13:27,988 --> 00:13:32,028 Speaker 9: meter like force field. Nobody's allowed to step inside. That's 331 00:13:32,108 --> 00:13:35,228 Speaker 9: literally how Ben Johnson. It's like it's I'm telling up. 332 00:13:35,708 --> 00:13:37,828 Speaker 10: That's strange type type energy. 333 00:13:37,868 --> 00:13:40,508 Speaker 8: So why wouldn't he just stay up inside the press box, 334 00:13:40,828 --> 00:13:41,388 Speaker 8: you know what I mean? 335 00:13:41,468 --> 00:13:42,308 Speaker 7: And called it from there? 336 00:13:42,388 --> 00:13:45,748 Speaker 8: Did he Did he come down because Dan brought him down? 337 00:13:45,788 --> 00:13:46,428 Speaker 10: Or what would that? 338 00:13:46,468 --> 00:13:47,868 Speaker 8: Because if he didn't want to be talked to, I 339 00:13:48,268 --> 00:13:51,388 Speaker 8: figured it'd make more sense up in the press box, like. 340 00:13:51,508 --> 00:13:52,028 Speaker 5: Are on the jam. 341 00:13:52,028 --> 00:13:53,628 Speaker 9: I mean, we tried different things. But the thing with 342 00:13:53,668 --> 00:13:55,348 Speaker 9: Ben is like he's going to talk to you. If 343 00:13:55,348 --> 00:13:57,908 Speaker 9: something's fed up, that's when that's when Ben's gonna talk. 344 00:13:58,228 --> 00:14:01,028 Speaker 9: And obviously the language is going to be a bit colorful. 345 00:14:01,068 --> 00:14:03,108 Speaker 9: You might see his eyes get all big and wide, 346 00:14:03,188 --> 00:14:05,268 Speaker 9: like you got sign that shot. When you see him 347 00:14:05,268 --> 00:14:07,068 Speaker 9: in a mode, man, you just take the criticism and 348 00:14:07,108 --> 00:14:07,708 Speaker 9: you walk away. 349 00:14:07,748 --> 00:14:09,908 Speaker 10: Thank you, Coach. I got to coach Boom move on. 350 00:14:10,948 --> 00:14:15,188 Speaker 3: Literally, Kyle on Tuesdays, I can't get over this. I can't. 351 00:14:15,548 --> 00:14:18,268 Speaker 4: And we've all got our modes, Jamie man, guy has 352 00:14:18,268 --> 00:14:18,948 Speaker 4: a mode. 353 00:14:20,308 --> 00:14:21,428 Speaker 10: Switch. We have modes. 354 00:14:21,508 --> 00:14:28,668 Speaker 2: Man, moving on, here we go. 355 00:14:29,108 --> 00:14:32,388 Speaker 3: Mode looks like, yeah, we do we do this. Everybody's 356 00:14:32,428 --> 00:14:33,108 Speaker 3: gonna cook on this one. 357 00:14:33,108 --> 00:14:33,588 Speaker 5: I'm excited. 358 00:14:33,628 --> 00:14:35,708 Speaker 2: Final topic of throw It on Thursday. Hall of Famers 359 00:14:35,708 --> 00:14:37,068 Speaker 2: Barry Sanders and Emmitt. 360 00:14:36,788 --> 00:14:38,988 Speaker 3: Smith oh, two of the best, two of. 361 00:14:38,948 --> 00:14:41,268 Speaker 2: The greatest to do it at the running back position. 362 00:14:40,908 --> 00:14:41,508 Speaker 3: Of all time. 363 00:14:41,588 --> 00:14:43,908 Speaker 2: We'll likely have eyes on likely they're gonna have eyes 364 00:14:43,948 --> 00:14:45,708 Speaker 2: on tonight's game if you the Cowboys and the Lions. 365 00:14:45,708 --> 00:14:48,108 Speaker 3: So in honor of this matchup. 366 00:14:48,148 --> 00:14:52,388 Speaker 2: You must decide what man's I more iconic career. 367 00:14:52,988 --> 00:14:58,468 Speaker 1: Very sad Smith to you, guys are really trying to 368 00:14:58,468 --> 00:15:00,508 Speaker 1: make it extremely difficult, Okay, I would say. 369 00:15:00,628 --> 00:15:02,588 Speaker 8: I'll say my sophomore year in high school, I went 370 00:15:02,628 --> 00:15:04,988 Speaker 8: to this football camp and Chris Peterson, who was the 371 00:15:04,988 --> 00:15:06,708 Speaker 8: Boyser state head coach at that time. 372 00:15:06,628 --> 00:15:08,028 Speaker 7: Was talking to the campers. 373 00:15:08,148 --> 00:15:10,268 Speaker 8: I was one of them, and he said, if you 374 00:15:10,308 --> 00:15:13,468 Speaker 8: want to be great, you have to do common things 375 00:15:13,508 --> 00:15:16,188 Speaker 8: and uncommon ways. And if I had to look at 376 00:15:16,228 --> 00:15:19,468 Speaker 8: both of these Hall of famers, the running style that 377 00:15:19,588 --> 00:15:21,948 Speaker 8: was uncommon to me was Barry Centers. The way that 378 00:15:22,028 --> 00:15:25,028 Speaker 8: he was able to run through and just juke people out, 379 00:15:25,468 --> 00:15:29,628 Speaker 8: change directions immediately, his size. 380 00:15:30,268 --> 00:15:32,788 Speaker 7: And yet he couldn't bring the man down his speed. 381 00:15:33,108 --> 00:15:35,028 Speaker 8: There was just so much to Barry Sanders when you 382 00:15:35,068 --> 00:15:38,188 Speaker 8: watch him. He had an elite contact balance and he. 383 00:15:38,108 --> 00:15:40,028 Speaker 5: Had he had everything. 384 00:15:40,028 --> 00:15:42,068 Speaker 8: He had all the gifts and breakaway speed. 385 00:15:42,148 --> 00:15:44,268 Speaker 10: So the guy who was most. 386 00:15:44,188 --> 00:15:47,948 Speaker 8: Uncommon to me, guys, is difficult would have to be 387 00:15:48,068 --> 00:15:50,708 Speaker 8: Barry Sanders for the Detroit Lions chase of the window. 388 00:15:52,268 --> 00:15:52,548 Speaker 10: Look. 389 00:15:52,708 --> 00:15:56,068 Speaker 9: I love Emmitt Smith. I love you know, his running 390 00:15:56,068 --> 00:15:58,228 Speaker 9: stop field. I feel if we said, if we said 391 00:15:58,268 --> 00:16:00,828 Speaker 9: Barry Sanders and Bo Jackson, I would have closed my 392 00:16:00,908 --> 00:16:02,668 Speaker 9: eyes because I wouldn't want to ask you. But we're 393 00:16:02,668 --> 00:16:05,228 Speaker 9: talking about Barry Sanders and Emma Smith. Like Barry was 394 00:16:05,308 --> 00:16:07,588 Speaker 9: able to juke people out with his freaking mind. 395 00:16:07,868 --> 00:16:09,108 Speaker 10: He didn't even would time. 396 00:16:09,548 --> 00:16:11,348 Speaker 9: Just look like you just look at somebody and the 397 00:16:11,388 --> 00:16:12,308 Speaker 9: angle's just broke. 398 00:16:12,588 --> 00:16:15,468 Speaker 10: Like that is how crazy his money style was. 399 00:16:15,748 --> 00:16:18,428 Speaker 9: He could position his feet in any types of angles 400 00:16:18,468 --> 00:16:19,308 Speaker 9: to make his body go. 401 00:16:19,348 --> 00:16:21,068 Speaker 10: In whatever direction was necessary. 402 00:16:21,348 --> 00:16:23,388 Speaker 9: And then not only that, he hangs it up when 403 00:16:23,428 --> 00:16:25,188 Speaker 9: he's still in his prime, when he still could have 404 00:16:25,228 --> 00:16:28,348 Speaker 9: given us more like that. Calvin Johnson, like Phil, we 405 00:16:28,468 --> 00:16:29,148 Speaker 9: just wish. 406 00:16:29,148 --> 00:16:31,028 Speaker 10: We could have had more of Barry, and he was just. 407 00:16:31,068 --> 00:16:33,548 Speaker 9: Like, ah, I'm done, I conquered this thing. I'm kind 408 00:16:33,548 --> 00:16:35,828 Speaker 9: of over it. I'll just retire and just you know, 409 00:16:35,988 --> 00:16:37,788 Speaker 9: be my humble self. Because if any of you guys 410 00:16:37,988 --> 00:16:41,628 Speaker 9: have ever met Barry Sanders in person. He's a ten 411 00:16:41,708 --> 00:16:44,028 Speaker 9: on the field and like a one and a half 412 00:16:44,148 --> 00:16:47,148 Speaker 9: off of it. He's very, very calm, chill what you 413 00:16:47,188 --> 00:16:49,388 Speaker 9: would expect you like, Eon is a ten and a ten. 414 00:16:49,668 --> 00:16:50,828 Speaker 5: Yeah, Barry as much different. 415 00:16:50,828 --> 00:16:52,348 Speaker 10: Do you think Barry would get in front of you 416 00:16:52,388 --> 00:16:52,668 Speaker 10: and just. 417 00:16:52,708 --> 00:16:55,228 Speaker 9: Like automatically do a backflip because he's just that acrobatic 418 00:16:55,308 --> 00:16:55,788 Speaker 9: and excited. 419 00:16:55,828 --> 00:16:58,228 Speaker 10: But he's the most chill dude. Loved Barry, super humble. 420 00:16:58,228 --> 00:16:59,308 Speaker 10: I gotta go Barry Sanderson. 421 00:17:00,188 --> 00:17:02,468 Speaker 4: Oh man, this is a tough one because I love Barry. 422 00:17:02,828 --> 00:17:05,108 Speaker 4: I love Barry. Barry's to go, you know what I mean? 423 00:17:05,148 --> 00:17:07,188 Speaker 4: And I think if this was like a who's your 424 00:17:07,188 --> 00:17:09,468 Speaker 4: favorite running back? Between these two, who do you rather 425 00:17:09,548 --> 00:17:11,588 Speaker 4: want to watch him Sunday afternoon. 426 00:17:11,268 --> 00:17:12,188 Speaker 6: I'd go Barry. 427 00:17:12,468 --> 00:17:16,828 Speaker 4: But the question is who has had the more iconic career. 428 00:17:17,308 --> 00:17:20,988 Speaker 4: That's a good cast that I've got to lean towards Emmett. 429 00:17:21,508 --> 00:17:23,908 Speaker 4: Now I'll jump on what you said, man, talk about 430 00:17:23,948 --> 00:17:27,108 Speaker 4: you know, doing common things uncommonly. Well, I think Emmott 431 00:17:27,148 --> 00:17:30,628 Speaker 4: Smith is actually the picture of that because he is 432 00:17:30,788 --> 00:17:33,588 Speaker 4: a He's not Barry Sanders, He's not the sexy guy 433 00:17:33,628 --> 00:17:35,188 Speaker 4: that's gonna make all these jump cuts. 434 00:17:34,948 --> 00:17:35,948 Speaker 6: And makes everybody miss. 435 00:17:36,068 --> 00:17:38,588 Speaker 4: He's gonna be patient, he's gonna find his gap, he's 436 00:17:38,628 --> 00:17:41,548 Speaker 4: gonna follow his blockers, and he's gonna get you yards 437 00:17:41,628 --> 00:17:44,508 Speaker 4: every single carry. No matter what, he's gonna push forward 438 00:17:44,508 --> 00:17:47,428 Speaker 4: and get those yards. And you see that number one 439 00:17:47,628 --> 00:17:51,908 Speaker 4: all time leading rusher in NFL history, three super Bowls. 440 00:17:52,068 --> 00:17:55,788 Speaker 4: I mean, it's hard to find a more iconic career 441 00:17:56,228 --> 00:17:58,668 Speaker 4: than that of the one Emmitt Smith. 442 00:18:00,028 --> 00:18:01,628 Speaker 1: It's a very good answer, Seth. And this is one 443 00:18:01,668 --> 00:18:03,588 Speaker 1: of these times that I'm just so grateful that I 444 00:18:03,628 --> 00:18:05,548 Speaker 1: have this job. I used to have this debate with 445 00:18:05,588 --> 00:18:07,308 Speaker 1: my friends when I was in eighth grade, just sitting 446 00:18:07,348 --> 00:18:08,988 Speaker 1: around riding our bikes, and the fact that I get 447 00:18:08,988 --> 00:18:10,508 Speaker 1: to do it now is incredible. 448 00:18:11,508 --> 00:18:11,788 Speaker 10: Seth. 449 00:18:11,948 --> 00:18:13,468 Speaker 5: You make a great point about Emmett. 450 00:18:13,588 --> 00:18:16,028 Speaker 1: I think, if I'm going to pars into the semantics 451 00:18:16,028 --> 00:18:19,348 Speaker 1: about it, is that Emmett's legacy is really usually defined 452 00:18:19,388 --> 00:18:21,228 Speaker 1: with he and two of their guys. They were actually 453 00:18:21,268 --> 00:18:24,388 Speaker 1: called the triplets, and some of that iconography he has 454 00:18:24,468 --> 00:18:26,588 Speaker 1: to share with Emmitt Smith and Treikman. 455 00:18:27,028 --> 00:18:29,548 Speaker 5: The answer here is Barry Emmett. 456 00:18:29,228 --> 00:18:32,308 Speaker 1: Smith was a fantastic beast of a running back and 457 00:18:32,348 --> 00:18:32,868 Speaker 1: a legend. 458 00:18:33,668 --> 00:18:37,788 Speaker 5: Barry was like an avenger, or like Poseidon or Zeus 459 00:18:37,908 --> 00:18:39,108 Speaker 5: or something like. You didn't even know if he was 460 00:18:39,108 --> 00:18:39,788 Speaker 5: a human being. 461 00:18:40,148 --> 00:18:43,268 Speaker 1: My favorite statistical quirk about Barry is that every single 462 00:18:43,388 --> 00:18:45,948 Speaker 1: year of his career he led the NFL and runs 463 00:18:45,988 --> 00:18:48,548 Speaker 1: him over twenty yards. He also led the NFL and 464 00:18:48,628 --> 00:18:51,388 Speaker 1: runs for losses a lot of that's the time Barry 465 00:18:51,428 --> 00:18:53,748 Speaker 1: would run back and forth six times and lose nine yards. 466 00:18:54,028 --> 00:18:56,988 Speaker 1: But it was a hell of an adventure every single time. 467 00:18:57,508 --> 00:19:00,868 Speaker 1: He was magical, he was mystical, and he was doing 468 00:19:00,868 --> 00:19:04,988 Speaker 1: it often on Terrible Lions teams while I'm at Smith 469 00:19:05,068 --> 00:19:08,268 Speaker 1: was in the full Jerry Jones post herschel Walker war chest. 470 00:19:08,268 --> 00:19:09,508 Speaker 5: And destroying everybody. 471 00:19:09,788 --> 00:19:12,748 Speaker 1: That made Barry cooler, and You're like, wow, that's the 472 00:19:12,748 --> 00:19:14,628 Speaker 1: most exciting athlete I've ever seen in my life. He 473 00:19:14,668 --> 00:19:16,868 Speaker 1: just ran ninety one yards against the Bears, and then 474 00:19:16,908 --> 00:19:18,348 Speaker 1: he gets to the end zone, drops the ball, and 475 00:19:18,348 --> 00:19:21,868 Speaker 1: trots to the sideline. It was just so special, so magical, 476 00:19:22,268 --> 00:19:23,348 Speaker 1: and every single. 477 00:19:23,108 --> 00:19:24,748 Speaker 5: Time he got the ball, you would stop. 478 00:19:24,508 --> 00:19:26,908 Speaker 1: Talking and wait till the run was over, which sometime 479 00:19:27,068 --> 00:19:28,228 Speaker 1: was like thirty seconds later. 480 00:19:28,668 --> 00:19:30,668 Speaker 2: I always love the old clips where he's just out 481 00:19:30,708 --> 00:19:34,828 Speaker 2: pacing the official too, like Verry's like, excuse me, excuse me, sir. 482 00:19:34,948 --> 00:19:38,028 Speaker 2: I know anybody who just want to keep just fawning 483 00:19:38,068 --> 00:19:40,348 Speaker 2: over Barry Sanders higlights because you got like another eighty 484 00:19:40,348 --> 00:19:41,468 Speaker 2: seconds to this from films. 485 00:19:41,628 --> 00:19:42,668 Speaker 5: We wanted to keep going. 486 00:19:42,788 --> 00:19:45,268 Speaker 8: Well, you know, earlier on the show, Kabinda talked about 487 00:19:45,548 --> 00:19:49,348 Speaker 8: Lebron and when Lebron was by himself solo in Cleveland, 488 00:19:49,428 --> 00:19:51,548 Speaker 8: like if there was anybody that embodied that to me 489 00:19:51,628 --> 00:19:53,428 Speaker 8: on the team have to be bear centers. When he 490 00:19:53,468 --> 00:19:56,708 Speaker 8: was at Detroit, like it was just Barry and you 491 00:19:56,748 --> 00:19:59,348 Speaker 8: see all of the like I don't know any running 492 00:19:59,388 --> 00:20:02,028 Speaker 8: back that had to break as many tackles as he 493 00:20:02,068 --> 00:20:05,108 Speaker 8: did right in one play, Like there's no one highlight 494 00:20:05,148 --> 00:20:06,788 Speaker 8: that I watched him here Jamie where he just breaks 495 00:20:06,828 --> 00:20:08,308 Speaker 8: one tackle, scores a touchdown. 496 00:20:07,988 --> 00:20:08,268 Speaker 5: Come plan. 497 00:20:08,348 --> 00:20:11,588 Speaker 8: He's breaking multiple tackles, So that goes to show not 498 00:20:11,628 --> 00:20:14,588 Speaker 8: only how dynamic he is, but look at one, there's 499 00:20:14,628 --> 00:20:17,788 Speaker 8: two and he continues to run Like that's the amount 500 00:20:17,828 --> 00:20:21,108 Speaker 8: of support that he had right on this team compared 501 00:20:21,108 --> 00:20:21,828 Speaker 8: to what others had. 502 00:20:21,868 --> 00:20:24,228 Speaker 7: I think that I think the dot is always going 503 00:20:24,268 --> 00:20:24,788 Speaker 7: to go to Barry. 504 00:20:25,868 --> 00:20:27,948 Speaker 5: I don't want to disrespect Eman. I love him. Emm, 505 00:20:27,948 --> 00:20:28,468 Speaker 5: it's my guy. 506 00:20:28,508 --> 00:20:30,628 Speaker 1: But we used to always say when we were kids, 507 00:20:31,308 --> 00:20:34,148 Speaker 1: if you took Barry Sanders and you put him on 508 00:20:34,268 --> 00:20:37,708 Speaker 1: the Cowboys behind Larry Allen and all those linemen and 509 00:20:37,828 --> 00:20:38,988 Speaker 1: Droyikman and Michael Irvin. 510 00:20:39,028 --> 00:20:39,588 Speaker 10: I'm not joking. 511 00:20:39,668 --> 00:20:42,188 Speaker 1: Matt exaggerating he would had a twenty five hundred yard season. 512 00:20:42,348 --> 00:20:45,668 Speaker 1: It's like it would have been astronomical. It wasn't that way, 513 00:20:45,748 --> 00:20:47,348 Speaker 1: and now we're just making up magic scenarios. 514 00:20:47,348 --> 00:20:48,428 Speaker 5: But that's the power of bear. 515 00:20:49,508 --> 00:20:50,828 Speaker 3: That is a power. Very well done. 516 00:20:50,868 --> 00:20:53,348 Speaker 2: Everybody throw down Thursday three topics, and to put a 517 00:20:53,388 --> 00:20:57,468 Speaker 2: bow on the aforementioned Black Christmas nineteen seventy four. I 518 00:20:57,468 --> 00:20:59,668 Speaker 2: don't want to say this over a beautiful highlights. I 519 00:20:59,708 --> 00:21:03,748 Speaker 2: just want to make sure we understand Black Christmas as 520 00:21:03,788 --> 00:21:06,068 Speaker 2: it is explos Where did they just go? It's a 521 00:21:06,148 --> 00:21:10,108 Speaker 2: rare slasher with enough intelligence to wind up the tension 522 00:21:10,188 --> 00:21:15,388 Speaker 2: between bloody outbursts. Black Christmas offers fiendishly enjoyable holiday. 523 00:21:15,028 --> 00:21:16,788 Speaker 3: Viewing for all genre fans. 524 00:21:17,108 --> 00:21:20,108 Speaker 2: Kind of sounds like the great Week fourteen slate to me, everybody, 525 00:21:20,388 --> 00:21:24,908 Speaker 2: Black Christmas from nineteen seventy four, it's Ben Johnson, it's 526 00:21:24,988 --> 00:21:29,068 Speaker 2: Kyle Brandt. It's Caleb Williams and it's Seth freaking Rowlins. 527 00:21:29,068 --> 00:21:30,548 Speaker 3: Look at him, go look at us. 528 00:21:30,708 --> 00:21:35,108 Speaker 2: The movie co sir on this show, Guys, Christmas is 529 00:21:35,148 --> 00:21:37,268 Speaker 2: coming early this year and it's murder. 530 00:21:37,308 --> 00:21:39,988 Speaker 5: I'm not guys that Christmas. 531 00:21:40,108 --> 00:21:41,188 Speaker 3: Let's go black Christmas. 532 00:21:41,228 --> 00:21:41,388 Speaker 5: There. 533 00:21:41,388 --> 00:21:43,748 Speaker 3: It is well done. 534 00:21:45,388 --> 00:21:47,348 Speaker 2: We were gonna go for two in this segment, and 535 00:21:47,388 --> 00:21:49,628 Speaker 2: I was like yelling at our offensive coordinator, like, no, 536 00:21:49,788 --> 00:21:52,068 Speaker 2: come on, keep the offense on the field. He's like, no, 537 00:21:52,388 --> 00:21:54,148 Speaker 2: we're going for one. We're kicking the point. It's just 538 00:21:54,188 --> 00:21:55,988 Speaker 2: one topic. We still have all day tomorrow to preview 539 00:21:55,988 --> 00:21:58,828 Speaker 2: the games. All right, We're gonna stick with Pittsburgh and Baltimore. 540 00:21:58,868 --> 00:22:02,028 Speaker 2: Pittsburgh travels uh to charm City on Sunday, and the 541 00:22:02,068 --> 00:22:04,788 Speaker 2: winner of this game takes sole possession of first place 542 00:22:04,828 --> 00:22:07,468 Speaker 2: in the AFC North. The Ravens currently are in first 543 00:22:07,548 --> 00:22:12,108 Speaker 2: based on common games tiebreakers. Their star linebacker Rokwan Smith 544 00:22:12,188 --> 00:22:15,788 Speaker 2: has been replaying this message to his teammates. 545 00:22:16,468 --> 00:22:20,268 Speaker 11: Knowing that hey, if someone told you you control your 546 00:22:20,308 --> 00:22:23,628 Speaker 11: own destiny and life or just in anything like, what 547 00:22:24,388 --> 00:22:26,468 Speaker 11: would you give up? And I'm sure a lot of 548 00:22:26,468 --> 00:22:29,268 Speaker 11: people would like say, heck yeah, sign me up for that, 549 00:22:29,348 --> 00:22:31,868 Speaker 11: and like, we're in that position right now. So it's 550 00:22:31,868 --> 00:22:33,548 Speaker 11: more so about what you're going to do with it, 551 00:22:33,628 --> 00:22:35,868 Speaker 11: and it's not about talking about it. It's about more 552 00:22:35,908 --> 00:22:38,428 Speaker 11: so showing with your actions. So that's what it is. 553 00:22:38,468 --> 00:22:40,588 Speaker 11: And at the end of the day, it starts with 554 00:22:40,628 --> 00:22:43,188 Speaker 11: this game right here, and this forget everything from the past. 555 00:22:43,228 --> 00:22:45,588 Speaker 11: It's more so about this week and this week it's 556 00:22:45,588 --> 00:22:49,228 Speaker 11: the Pittsburgh Steelers and obviously we're tied right now, so 557 00:22:50,148 --> 00:22:52,268 Speaker 11: it's a big matchup. But at the end of the day, 558 00:22:52,308 --> 00:22:53,908 Speaker 11: it's still the game of football and we just have 559 00:22:53,988 --> 00:22:56,348 Speaker 11: to go out and play all brand of football and 560 00:22:56,388 --> 00:22:58,348 Speaker 11: if we do that, we'll like our chances. 561 00:22:59,388 --> 00:23:02,388 Speaker 2: The identity of these teams is wild, how much they align. 562 00:23:02,468 --> 00:23:04,908 Speaker 2: Both of these quarterbacks haven't played up to the standard 563 00:23:04,948 --> 00:23:08,068 Speaker 2: that they would want. The defenses or usually are excellent. 564 00:23:08,188 --> 00:23:11,068 Speaker 2: But MANSI, when you look at this vital AFC North matchup, 565 00:23:11,428 --> 00:23:14,188 Speaker 2: does your eye go to the to the quarterback? 566 00:23:14,268 --> 00:23:15,828 Speaker 8: Yeah, it goes to the quarterback for me, and this 567 00:23:15,908 --> 00:23:18,188 Speaker 8: is why my eye goes there. I caught something yesterday 568 00:23:18,188 --> 00:23:20,868 Speaker 8: and it reminded me of when Peyton Manning went to 569 00:23:20,908 --> 00:23:24,308 Speaker 8: the Denver Broncos. So Aaron Rodgers in last week's game 570 00:23:24,348 --> 00:23:27,108 Speaker 8: against the Buffalo Bills in their no huddle situation where 571 00:23:27,108 --> 00:23:29,588 Speaker 8: they're trying to get this thing going as when they 572 00:23:29,588 --> 00:23:33,508 Speaker 8: fail behind in the game. It reminded me of Peyton 573 00:23:33,548 --> 00:23:35,068 Speaker 8: Manning when he went to the Broncos. 574 00:23:35,068 --> 00:23:36,228 Speaker 7: Why because Peyton. 575 00:23:35,988 --> 00:23:38,868 Speaker 8: Manning and myself we shared the same agent, and when 576 00:23:38,868 --> 00:23:41,588 Speaker 8: my agent told me about Peyton Manning going there and 577 00:23:41,588 --> 00:23:44,748 Speaker 8: that offense that they're running in Denver, I remember my 578 00:23:45,588 --> 00:23:48,068 Speaker 8: agent saying it's just a matter of time before Peyton 579 00:23:48,148 --> 00:23:50,588 Speaker 8: starts to sprinkle in his offense and that he wants 580 00:23:50,588 --> 00:23:53,468 Speaker 8: to run, and it usually happens in these now huddle situations. 581 00:23:54,428 --> 00:23:56,748 Speaker 8: What's going to be interesting to me, guys, is how 582 00:23:56,828 --> 00:24:00,068 Speaker 8: long Aaron Rodgers lets this thing go until he starts 583 00:24:00,068 --> 00:24:01,228 Speaker 8: implementing his offense. 584 00:24:01,268 --> 00:24:02,468 Speaker 7: Because we know that when they. 585 00:24:02,828 --> 00:24:05,708 Speaker 8: When they go no huddle, that's the quarterback calling to play. 586 00:24:05,748 --> 00:24:07,868 Speaker 8: That's the quarterback getting his guys in line of scrimmage. 587 00:24:07,908 --> 00:24:10,228 Speaker 8: He's making that checks, he's doing the audibles. And it 588 00:24:10,348 --> 00:24:13,468 Speaker 8: just so happened that they claimed Adam Thielen and gives 589 00:24:13,548 --> 00:24:16,148 Speaker 8: him another wide receiver at his disposal. 590 00:24:16,228 --> 00:24:18,908 Speaker 7: So that's something that I'm going to be monitoring, monitoring. 591 00:24:19,028 --> 00:24:22,588 Speaker 8: Jason Cabindo is does this Hall of Fame quarterback start 592 00:24:22,628 --> 00:24:24,628 Speaker 8: to sprinkle in the things that he's done in the 593 00:24:24,668 --> 00:24:26,068 Speaker 8: past with his new team. 594 00:24:26,348 --> 00:24:27,188 Speaker 7: I guess we'll see. 595 00:24:27,388 --> 00:24:28,948 Speaker 9: I think for me, what I want to see in 596 00:24:28,988 --> 00:24:31,708 Speaker 9: this game has way less to do with x's and 597 00:24:31,748 --> 00:24:33,948 Speaker 9: o's and has way more to do with what being 598 00:24:33,988 --> 00:24:36,428 Speaker 9: a Steeler and being a Raven is supposed to be 599 00:24:36,508 --> 00:24:40,388 Speaker 9: all about. This is a maybe the most iconic rivalry 600 00:24:40,548 --> 00:24:43,828 Speaker 9: in the NFL, and two teams with those names who 601 00:24:43,828 --> 00:24:46,268 Speaker 9: really just haven't been playing like those are their names. 602 00:24:46,268 --> 00:24:47,068 Speaker 12: When we watch. 603 00:24:46,868 --> 00:24:50,028 Speaker 9: Steelers and Ravens, we're used to seeing teams that control 604 00:24:50,068 --> 00:24:52,988 Speaker 9: the line of scrimmage, linebackers that fly to the football, 605 00:24:53,348 --> 00:24:57,988 Speaker 9: big hits, smash mount football physicality. I haven't seen that 606 00:24:58,148 --> 00:25:01,908 Speaker 9: out of these two teams this year. Steelers have signed, 607 00:25:02,188 --> 00:25:04,988 Speaker 9: you know, some old brand name guys we're kind of 608 00:25:05,108 --> 00:25:09,628 Speaker 9: past their primes. The Ramseys, the Slaves, the DK Metcalfs. 609 00:25:10,828 --> 00:25:14,748 Speaker 9: The Ravens haven't been the suffocating defense, the crazy rushing 610 00:25:14,788 --> 00:25:17,188 Speaker 9: offense that we've known to see these last two three 611 00:25:17,228 --> 00:25:19,028 Speaker 9: years with Derek Henley, Lamar Jackson. 612 00:25:19,348 --> 00:25:21,348 Speaker 10: Let's see these guys just get back to who they are. 613 00:25:21,388 --> 00:25:25,908 Speaker 9: I want to see a real Steelers Ravens rivalry matchup 614 00:25:25,908 --> 00:25:28,908 Speaker 9: with the type of fundamentals that were used to seeing 615 00:25:28,908 --> 00:25:31,228 Speaker 9: between those those two teams. That's what I want to see, 616 00:25:31,268 --> 00:25:34,188 Speaker 9: a real Steelers Ravens game, not the two teams that 617 00:25:34,188 --> 00:25:36,108 Speaker 9: I've been watching so far this year. 618 00:25:36,068 --> 00:25:37,748 Speaker 4: So commend to If I get this straight, you want 619 00:25:37,748 --> 00:25:39,188 Speaker 4: to see these boys smash each. 620 00:25:39,068 --> 00:25:40,908 Speaker 10: Other, that's what you want to see. 621 00:25:41,028 --> 00:25:43,268 Speaker 4: You want to see some hard nose football, that's what 622 00:25:43,308 --> 00:25:44,348 Speaker 4: you want to see. 623 00:25:44,188 --> 00:25:47,188 Speaker 9: Yes, sir, that's what I'm about, man, full back, linebacker, 624 00:25:47,188 --> 00:25:47,908 Speaker 9: I'm all about that. 625 00:25:47,988 --> 00:25:49,508 Speaker 10: I'm a big ten guy, man. 626 00:25:50,108 --> 00:25:53,908 Speaker 4: Respect, respect, and I'm with you, man. I feel the 627 00:25:53,908 --> 00:25:55,548 Speaker 4: same way. That's what I want to see as well. 628 00:25:55,588 --> 00:25:58,308 Speaker 4: I want to see a hard nose, hard hitting, Ash 629 00:25:58,588 --> 00:26:00,508 Speaker 4: North slug fest. 630 00:26:00,628 --> 00:26:01,468 Speaker 6: That's what I want to see. 631 00:26:01,468 --> 00:26:04,588 Speaker 4: And I want to see which of these teams is 632 00:26:04,588 --> 00:26:07,548 Speaker 4: going to be able to snatch some momentum, because I 633 00:26:07,588 --> 00:26:10,748 Speaker 4: feel like both these teams this season have not. They've 634 00:26:10,748 --> 00:26:14,308 Speaker 4: been up and down. Steelers started hot, now they've kind 635 00:26:14,308 --> 00:26:16,548 Speaker 4: of petered off a little bit. I feel the same 636 00:26:16,588 --> 00:26:18,668 Speaker 4: way the Ravens started good and the Margo's out, they 637 00:26:18,668 --> 00:26:20,588 Speaker 4: don't look good at all for the first part of 638 00:26:20,588 --> 00:26:22,908 Speaker 4: the season. Lamar comes back, then they start looking a 639 00:26:22,948 --> 00:26:25,148 Speaker 4: little better, and now they've kind of stumbled a little 640 00:26:25,148 --> 00:26:26,908 Speaker 4: bit as well. So I want to see which of 641 00:26:26,948 --> 00:26:29,388 Speaker 4: these teams is going to grab this division by the 642 00:26:29,468 --> 00:26:30,868 Speaker 4: horns and lead it. 643 00:26:30,868 --> 00:26:31,748 Speaker 6: Into the playoffs. 644 00:26:31,788 --> 00:26:34,428 Speaker 4: Because you got the Cincinnati Bengals and a healthy Joe 645 00:26:34,428 --> 00:26:37,108 Speaker 4: Burrow creeping up on you. So you've got to start 646 00:26:37,268 --> 00:26:39,348 Speaker 4: winning these games, and you got to start building some 647 00:26:39,468 --> 00:26:41,908 Speaker 4: momentum because this back end of the season is going 648 00:26:41,988 --> 00:26:43,828 Speaker 4: to be tough for all three of these teams, and 649 00:26:43,988 --> 00:26:46,188 Speaker 4: all of them are in a position to win the North. 650 00:26:46,228 --> 00:26:48,988 Speaker 4: So Kyle, it's up for grabs. I'm with Cabenda. I 651 00:26:49,068 --> 00:26:50,988 Speaker 4: want to see hard and knows football. I want to 652 00:26:50,988 --> 00:26:52,788 Speaker 4: see who's going to take the rains and run with 653 00:26:52,828 --> 00:26:54,348 Speaker 4: this thing towards the playoffs. 654 00:26:54,468 --> 00:26:56,788 Speaker 5: I love the stakes. I love the oar in December 655 00:26:56,788 --> 00:26:58,388 Speaker 5: in the games matter the stakes. 656 00:26:58,388 --> 00:27:01,668 Speaker 1: He are huge for two teams with crappy, stupid, dumb 657 00:27:01,708 --> 00:27:03,988 Speaker 1: six and six records, So dumb. 658 00:27:03,708 --> 00:27:07,868 Speaker 5: Records that seth is right. The Bengals are creeping at 659 00:27:07,908 --> 00:27:08,468 Speaker 5: four and eight. 660 00:27:09,468 --> 00:27:11,708 Speaker 1: And the crazy thing about the Bengals is like they 661 00:27:11,988 --> 00:27:13,828 Speaker 1: don't even have to be perfect to still make the 662 00:27:13,988 --> 00:27:15,908 Speaker 1: They might lose another game and still make if they 663 00:27:15,988 --> 00:27:18,148 Speaker 1: have wiggle room at four and eight with the way 664 00:27:18,148 --> 00:27:19,108 Speaker 1: these two teams are playing. 665 00:27:19,108 --> 00:27:22,508 Speaker 5: But the stakes are this six and six. Guys. 666 00:27:22,508 --> 00:27:26,348 Speaker 1: If you lose, either the Ravens complete another stretch in 667 00:27:26,348 --> 00:27:28,508 Speaker 1: which Lamar is playing some of the shakiest football we've 668 00:27:28,508 --> 00:27:31,388 Speaker 1: seen him in years, or the Steelers fall into this 669 00:27:31,548 --> 00:27:33,508 Speaker 1: horrible hellhole of bad. 670 00:27:33,308 --> 00:27:35,748 Speaker 5: Football and cruel media tearing them apart. 671 00:27:35,948 --> 00:27:37,548 Speaker 1: I've said this before, and I'll double down, and I 672 00:27:37,588 --> 00:27:39,468 Speaker 1: think the Steelers are gonna win this game. And I 673 00:27:39,508 --> 00:27:42,828 Speaker 1: know the Ravens that thinks that's disrespectful. I think the 674 00:27:42,868 --> 00:27:44,788 Speaker 1: best thing for the Steelers right now could the fact 675 00:27:44,788 --> 00:27:46,588 Speaker 1: that this is on the road, so if they punt 676 00:27:46,628 --> 00:27:49,108 Speaker 1: the first three possessions, the whole stadium isn't booing them 677 00:27:49,108 --> 00:27:51,588 Speaker 1: like the Steelers fans would be. And it's like, if 678 00:27:51,628 --> 00:27:53,308 Speaker 1: the Steelers had one three in a row coming into 679 00:27:53,348 --> 00:27:53,708 Speaker 1: this game, I. 680 00:27:53,668 --> 00:27:54,748 Speaker 5: Would say they're gonna lose. 681 00:27:55,068 --> 00:27:58,188 Speaker 1: It's just that they have that magnetic attraction to always 682 00:27:58,268 --> 00:28:00,708 Speaker 1: keeping their head above water, and the fact that the 683 00:28:00,708 --> 00:28:02,268 Speaker 1: people like, why can't you pick the Steelers? 684 00:28:02,268 --> 00:28:04,108 Speaker 5: The whole world's crumbling on. They're playing terrible. 685 00:28:04,468 --> 00:28:06,908 Speaker 1: That's why I am picking them because under Mike Tomlin, 686 00:28:06,988 --> 00:28:10,188 Speaker 1: when that happens, they find a way to lift themselves up. 687 00:28:10,308 --> 00:28:12,108 Speaker 1: Just like when they're playing well, they find a way 688 00:28:12,108 --> 00:28:14,708 Speaker 1: to fall down. So it's a weird record, it's a 689 00:28:14,708 --> 00:28:16,908 Speaker 1: weird two quarterback matchup. I don't have a lot of 690 00:28:16,948 --> 00:28:19,788 Speaker 1: history with Rogers versus Lamar. Both of them need to 691 00:28:19,828 --> 00:28:22,148 Speaker 1: play really, really well. Whoever loses this game, it's like, 692 00:28:22,508 --> 00:28:24,068 Speaker 1: get out of my sight. We got better teams to 693 00:28:24,108 --> 00:28:26,508 Speaker 1: talk about. Get the now five and eight Bengals up 694 00:28:26,508 --> 00:28:27,508 Speaker 1: here and we'll talk about them. 695 00:28:27,708 --> 00:28:29,748 Speaker 2: Yeah, how are we supposed to be wrought with debate 696 00:28:29,868 --> 00:28:32,428 Speaker 2: about how the Steelers are supposed to enact change over 697 00:28:32,428 --> 00:28:34,828 Speaker 2: the offseason if they're not perfectly five hundred or just 698 00:28:34,868 --> 00:28:37,628 Speaker 2: slightly above in the regular season. We don't know how 699 00:28:37,668 --> 00:28:40,108 Speaker 2: to base our argument and anything else unless we know 700 00:28:40,148 --> 00:28:42,908 Speaker 2: that as the outcome. It's Steelers at Ravens this weekend, 701 00:28:42,948 --> 00:28:46,148 Speaker 2: one of many delicious matchups from Week fourteen. 702 00:28:48,788 --> 00:28:51,028 Speaker 3: Our next guest on GMFB so kind. 703 00:28:51,188 --> 00:28:52,748 Speaker 2: We were just so happy to see him in the 704 00:28:52,748 --> 00:28:54,988 Speaker 2: commercial break that he was an absolute menace on the 705 00:28:54,988 --> 00:28:57,668 Speaker 2: field as part of Seattle's legendary. 706 00:28:57,188 --> 00:28:58,068 Speaker 3: Legion of boom. 707 00:28:58,108 --> 00:29:00,628 Speaker 2: He's a Super Bowl champion and a three time Pro bowler, 708 00:29:00,668 --> 00:29:03,188 Speaker 2: and he's no stranger to us here at the breakfast table. 709 00:29:03,228 --> 00:29:05,668 Speaker 2: Say hello to Formersattle Seahawks defensive I. 710 00:29:05,628 --> 00:29:12,948 Speaker 12: Might call that, well, thank you. How guy's doing. 711 00:29:13,188 --> 00:29:14,108 Speaker 3: We're fantastic. 712 00:29:14,228 --> 00:29:14,588 Speaker 5: How are you? 713 00:29:15,868 --> 00:29:16,308 Speaker 12: I'm good? 714 00:29:16,348 --> 00:29:16,948 Speaker 10: Life is good. 715 00:29:17,028 --> 00:29:19,988 Speaker 14: I'm getting older, just turned forty, so I feel I 716 00:29:19,988 --> 00:29:21,708 Speaker 14: feel old and young at the same time. 717 00:29:21,828 --> 00:29:24,988 Speaker 3: You know, so heard you're standing firmly on the hill. 718 00:29:25,108 --> 00:29:28,068 Speaker 2: But that kind of life and football experience, Michael, it 719 00:29:28,148 --> 00:29:30,788 Speaker 2: gives us a chance to ask you about the NFC 720 00:29:30,828 --> 00:29:32,548 Speaker 2: as it stands right now, and the fact that the 721 00:29:32,628 --> 00:29:35,348 Speaker 2: Seahawks are right there in the next nine and three. 722 00:29:35,788 --> 00:29:37,548 Speaker 2: You know this team, you know the makeup of it, 723 00:29:37,588 --> 00:29:39,828 Speaker 2: the building, and you know what you're seeing on the field. 724 00:29:40,268 --> 00:29:42,148 Speaker 2: What do you make of the twenty twenty five Seattle 725 00:29:42,188 --> 00:29:43,508 Speaker 2: Seahawks and what they put out there? 726 00:29:44,068 --> 00:29:44,908 Speaker 12: I'm super excited. 727 00:29:44,988 --> 00:29:47,148 Speaker 14: Leonard Williams is my favorite player in the NFL when 728 00:29:47,148 --> 00:29:49,748 Speaker 14: it comes to defense, and then Jessying is somebody that 729 00:29:49,788 --> 00:29:50,948 Speaker 14: I love watching play. 730 00:29:51,188 --> 00:29:52,628 Speaker 12: The team is just such a great team. 731 00:29:52,668 --> 00:29:55,428 Speaker 14: I think they're built, you know, structurally just like how 732 00:29:55,428 --> 00:29:57,908 Speaker 14: we were built through twenty thirteen and twenty fourteen, A 733 00:29:57,948 --> 00:30:00,828 Speaker 14: stout defense with a profound offense, and I think this 734 00:30:00,948 --> 00:30:02,948 Speaker 14: is one of those teams that I think every week 735 00:30:03,148 --> 00:30:06,868 Speaker 14: they're dominating big plays up front, the secondary is good 736 00:30:07,228 --> 00:30:10,508 Speaker 14: overall as a team, it's just a competitive organization at 737 00:30:10,548 --> 00:30:13,708 Speaker 14: the moment. As a player, as a legend from that team, like, 738 00:30:13,828 --> 00:30:15,868 Speaker 14: we're probably gonna make less money because they have an 739 00:30:15,868 --> 00:30:18,948 Speaker 14: opportunity to be the champions this year. I feel like 740 00:30:19,028 --> 00:30:21,748 Speaker 14: they're strong and I feel like, yo, they're poised. 741 00:30:21,788 --> 00:30:23,468 Speaker 12: I think Mike has done a great job. 742 00:30:23,348 --> 00:30:28,188 Speaker 14: Of establishing his culture, his type of tenacity, his defense, 743 00:30:28,508 --> 00:30:30,788 Speaker 14: and you see it every single week, play in and 744 00:30:30,828 --> 00:30:33,308 Speaker 14: play out, every single faster. 745 00:30:33,548 --> 00:30:36,028 Speaker 12: That defense and offense is good. 746 00:30:36,308 --> 00:30:38,748 Speaker 14: I feel like the offensive line for a moment was 747 00:30:38,788 --> 00:30:40,828 Speaker 14: something that people were questioning, but now it's starting to 748 00:30:40,868 --> 00:30:43,148 Speaker 14: be strong in the running game and Sam is having 749 00:30:43,428 --> 00:30:45,588 Speaker 14: a great season, and I think this is a great 750 00:30:45,588 --> 00:30:47,148 Speaker 14: team that has a chance to win the Super Bowl. 751 00:30:47,188 --> 00:30:50,348 Speaker 14: It's my pick to win. I don't say that because 752 00:30:50,388 --> 00:30:52,108 Speaker 14: they pay me all the time. I say that because 753 00:30:52,508 --> 00:30:53,868 Speaker 14: I like the way they played it. I like the 754 00:30:53,908 --> 00:30:56,188 Speaker 14: way they play the game. You know, I love the 755 00:30:56,228 --> 00:30:58,108 Speaker 14: way that they played football. Last week they had a 756 00:30:58,148 --> 00:30:59,828 Speaker 14: shut out. I know it's hard to do, is you know? 757 00:30:59,908 --> 00:31:01,228 Speaker 7: Man time? Yeah, well, we'll tell me. 758 00:31:01,268 --> 00:31:03,668 Speaker 8: That's big, bro, because when we used to train together, 759 00:31:03,828 --> 00:31:06,308 Speaker 8: obviously and the me being will come in, Cliff Abra 760 00:31:06,468 --> 00:31:08,908 Speaker 8: was always there and we're train together in that defense. 761 00:31:08,988 --> 00:31:09,228 Speaker 7: Right. 762 00:31:09,388 --> 00:31:12,348 Speaker 8: The Seattle Seahawks the defense this year at they're third 763 00:31:12,388 --> 00:31:14,988 Speaker 8: in points, sixth and yards, fourth and sacks. 764 00:31:14,988 --> 00:31:16,988 Speaker 7: What is it about this defense to you that you 765 00:31:17,188 --> 00:31:17,708 Speaker 7: liked the most? 766 00:31:18,468 --> 00:31:21,028 Speaker 14: I love the defensive line. I think the Marcus Lawrence 767 00:31:21,108 --> 00:31:23,188 Speaker 14: is having an outstanding season. I got to play with 768 00:31:23,228 --> 00:31:25,988 Speaker 14: the Marcus Lawrence for my last season and to see 769 00:31:26,068 --> 00:31:28,308 Speaker 14: him progress, it's not only as a player, but to 770 00:31:28,348 --> 00:31:30,548 Speaker 14: see his leadership that he's brought to this defense, this 771 00:31:30,668 --> 00:31:33,348 Speaker 14: type of never give up. Leonard Williamson me is the 772 00:31:33,388 --> 00:31:35,788 Speaker 14: most versatile defensive player in the NFL. 773 00:31:35,948 --> 00:31:38,668 Speaker 12: He plays every single position. He reminds me of myself 774 00:31:38,668 --> 00:31:39,028 Speaker 12: in that way. 775 00:31:39,028 --> 00:31:41,348 Speaker 14: He's bigger than me, but he's And then you talk 776 00:31:41,348 --> 00:31:44,748 Speaker 14: about the linebacker court. There's a lot of guys that 777 00:31:44,868 --> 00:31:47,228 Speaker 14: was kind of questioning whether these guys could play. But 778 00:31:47,268 --> 00:31:49,268 Speaker 14: they're showing up every single week and I'm gonna get 779 00:31:49,268 --> 00:31:51,948 Speaker 14: me started. On the secondary, right, you have all these 780 00:31:51,988 --> 00:31:55,068 Speaker 14: great corners and overall it's just a really great defense. 781 00:31:55,108 --> 00:31:57,108 Speaker 14: And I think what makes the defense is one of 782 00:31:57,108 --> 00:32:00,508 Speaker 14: the best is like is that they have rotation. They 783 00:32:00,548 --> 00:32:03,588 Speaker 14: got guys that come in, there's no drop off wooland 784 00:32:03,668 --> 00:32:04,348 Speaker 14: the linebacker. 785 00:32:04,828 --> 00:32:06,308 Speaker 12: Everybody's doing such a great job. 786 00:32:06,348 --> 00:32:08,988 Speaker 14: And then you add I see that the special teams 787 00:32:08,988 --> 00:32:13,188 Speaker 14: as another facet OFUGH defense. And the special teams just 788 00:32:13,228 --> 00:32:15,988 Speaker 14: stot Kobe Bryant, everybody that goes in. You got guys 789 00:32:16,028 --> 00:32:18,308 Speaker 14: who are starters that are playing on the defense. And 790 00:32:18,348 --> 00:32:20,708 Speaker 14: then you come in Byron Murphy his second year to 791 00:32:20,828 --> 00:32:22,908 Speaker 14: be having seven sacks. I mean, a guy that we 792 00:32:22,948 --> 00:32:24,908 Speaker 14: didn't think that could be a pass rusher is starting 793 00:32:24,908 --> 00:32:27,708 Speaker 14: to stand out as a pass rusher, as a nose tackle. 794 00:32:27,748 --> 00:32:29,988 Speaker 14: And then you got guys like Jaran Reid. Overall it's 795 00:32:29,988 --> 00:32:32,388 Speaker 14: just a stack defense, you know. So you know, like 796 00:32:32,388 --> 00:32:34,428 Speaker 14: like I said, DeMarcus Lawrence and all those guys, But 797 00:32:34,548 --> 00:32:37,468 Speaker 14: Leonard Williams every week is dominating up front. I don't know, 798 00:32:37,588 --> 00:32:39,908 Speaker 14: he didn't make All Pro our first team last year, 799 00:32:40,028 --> 00:32:42,508 Speaker 14: but if they don't make Leonard Williams All Pro this year, 800 00:32:42,748 --> 00:32:44,228 Speaker 14: I'm not watching football anymore. 801 00:32:44,308 --> 00:32:45,948 Speaker 12: That's just That's just what I'm gonna say. 802 00:32:46,108 --> 00:32:48,868 Speaker 14: If Leonard Williams is not an All Pro this year, 803 00:32:49,148 --> 00:32:50,948 Speaker 14: what are we talking about when you talk about a 804 00:32:50,988 --> 00:32:54,028 Speaker 14: guy who stops to run rushes the passer had ten 805 00:32:54,068 --> 00:32:57,308 Speaker 14: sacks last plus sacks last year, twenty plus quarterback hits 806 00:32:57,508 --> 00:33:00,388 Speaker 14: and every year is in a second is in the backfield. 807 00:33:00,548 --> 00:33:03,268 Speaker 14: I mean, Miles Garrett is the best defensive lineman in 808 00:33:03,268 --> 00:33:06,508 Speaker 14: the NFL. We can't nobody can deny that. But oh second, 809 00:33:06,588 --> 00:33:07,828 Speaker 14: I would take Lennar Williams. 810 00:33:07,948 --> 00:33:10,308 Speaker 9: Wow, Mike, you know, ball bro, we just got like 811 00:33:10,308 --> 00:33:13,748 Speaker 9: a player by player breakdown of that entire team. 812 00:33:13,948 --> 00:33:16,228 Speaker 10: I freaking love it. Look the Houston Texans. 813 00:33:16,228 --> 00:33:19,708 Speaker 9: They stacked the reigning MVP Josh Allen eight times in 814 00:33:19,748 --> 00:33:22,908 Speaker 9: Week twelve. They've consistently been the top defense in the 815 00:33:22,988 --> 00:33:23,868 Speaker 9: league this season. 816 00:33:24,068 --> 00:33:25,548 Speaker 10: What stands out to you about Houston? 817 00:33:26,108 --> 00:33:28,148 Speaker 14: Well, first of all, the Miko Rians was one of 818 00:33:28,148 --> 00:33:30,668 Speaker 14: the best defensive players coming out. You're talking about leadership 819 00:33:30,668 --> 00:33:34,228 Speaker 14: in Alabama playing for the Philadelphia Eagles to being the 820 00:33:34,388 --> 00:33:37,348 Speaker 14: legend from the Texans leading the forty nine ers defense 821 00:33:37,388 --> 00:33:39,828 Speaker 14: as a young coach, and they're coming in tenacity. 822 00:33:39,868 --> 00:33:41,108 Speaker 12: Defense is what he's breathed. 823 00:33:41,188 --> 00:33:43,388 Speaker 14: And if you see who he was as a player, 824 00:33:43,428 --> 00:33:46,548 Speaker 14: his ability to be a leader, his ability to play 825 00:33:46,548 --> 00:33:49,908 Speaker 14: through injury, have strength. You have the defensive lineman Hunter 826 00:33:51,228 --> 00:33:55,268 Speaker 14: will Anderson. These guys are just vicious. Nobody wants to 827 00:33:55,268 --> 00:33:57,428 Speaker 14: go against these guys when it comes about setting the edge, 828 00:33:57,548 --> 00:33:59,748 Speaker 14: Mario Edwards, everybody real all these. 829 00:33:59,668 --> 00:34:00,868 Speaker 12: Guys, this is a type of defense. 830 00:34:00,908 --> 00:34:03,268 Speaker 14: As a quarterback, you want to not play against you 831 00:34:03,388 --> 00:34:05,788 Speaker 14: like it's a tech. Do I have the Texas on 832 00:34:05,828 --> 00:34:07,988 Speaker 14: my schedule, That's the week that I want to be injured, 833 00:34:08,028 --> 00:34:10,788 Speaker 14: because if not, I will be injured after the game. 834 00:34:11,148 --> 00:34:12,908 Speaker 12: The secondary is is stack. 835 00:34:13,268 --> 00:34:15,588 Speaker 14: This is one of the best defensives in the NFL, 836 00:34:15,748 --> 00:34:18,308 Speaker 14: the best defense when you talk about points port game, 837 00:34:18,388 --> 00:34:22,028 Speaker 14: total yards per game, and in sacks and takeaways. They've 838 00:34:22,068 --> 00:34:24,068 Speaker 14: just come on. I would see j Straud. This is 839 00:34:24,068 --> 00:34:26,668 Speaker 14: the perfect, perfect time to get CJ. Straw back right 840 00:34:26,708 --> 00:34:28,788 Speaker 14: because in this conference he was hurt for a couple 841 00:34:28,828 --> 00:34:31,188 Speaker 14: of weeks and he comes back with defenses hitting on 842 00:34:31,228 --> 00:34:33,588 Speaker 14: all cylanders. And the best time to be the best 843 00:34:33,628 --> 00:34:36,788 Speaker 14: defense is in December. Whoever plays great football in December 844 00:34:37,148 --> 00:34:39,148 Speaker 14: leads into the playoffs. As usually the team who has 845 00:34:39,148 --> 00:34:42,508 Speaker 14: a chance to win a championship. And Josh Allen is 846 00:34:42,508 --> 00:34:44,508 Speaker 14: one of the best quarterbacks in the NFL. If you 847 00:34:44,508 --> 00:34:46,908 Speaker 14: say who's the best quarterback, you have to say either 848 00:34:46,988 --> 00:34:50,748 Speaker 14: Lamar Jackson, Patrick Mahomes, or Josh Allen. And right now 849 00:34:50,948 --> 00:34:53,268 Speaker 14: I would say that Josh Allen consistently is probably the 850 00:34:53,268 --> 00:34:56,148 Speaker 14: best quarterback in the NFL, and second being Patrick Mahomes. 851 00:34:56,228 --> 00:34:58,428 Speaker 14: And see what they did against him was a very 852 00:34:59,188 --> 00:35:02,348 Speaker 14: was very It was very vicious to see guys go 853 00:35:02,388 --> 00:35:03,828 Speaker 14: out there and play that type of football. 854 00:35:03,948 --> 00:35:06,268 Speaker 12: But I'm it's that type of football dog. 855 00:35:06,068 --> 00:35:08,388 Speaker 14: On dog lineup and doesn't matter who's out there, if 856 00:35:08,388 --> 00:35:09,388 Speaker 14: it's your mama. 857 00:35:09,308 --> 00:35:11,228 Speaker 12: Your cousin, your pe coach. 858 00:35:11,788 --> 00:35:14,508 Speaker 14: Just going out there and just playing football at the 859 00:35:14,548 --> 00:35:17,308 Speaker 14: highest level. I enjoyed that type of football and watching 860 00:35:17,308 --> 00:35:19,468 Speaker 14: that type of player on the game. As a defensive player, 861 00:35:19,908 --> 00:35:22,548 Speaker 14: it's love to see those type of guys dominate every weekend, 862 00:35:22,588 --> 00:35:23,268 Speaker 14: week out. 863 00:35:23,308 --> 00:35:26,548 Speaker 4: Oh, Mike, I am loving sitting under your learning tree 864 00:35:26,628 --> 00:35:29,228 Speaker 4: right now. Man, this is awesome and I hate it, 865 00:35:29,228 --> 00:35:30,748 Speaker 4: but we got to switch gears just a little bit. 866 00:35:30,788 --> 00:35:33,668 Speaker 4: I want to ask you, you and a few other 867 00:35:33,948 --> 00:35:37,508 Speaker 4: members of the Legion of Boom recently reunited, but not 868 00:35:37,588 --> 00:35:41,628 Speaker 4: to play football, but for some tactical training and video gaming. 869 00:35:41,668 --> 00:35:43,308 Speaker 6: Can you tell us a little more about that. 870 00:35:43,988 --> 00:35:45,548 Speaker 14: Yeah, we got a chance to play Ready or Not, 871 00:35:45,668 --> 00:35:47,988 Speaker 14: which it was an interesting game. There's a part of 872 00:35:47,988 --> 00:35:51,588 Speaker 14: where we're watching it where everybody blew up, but it 873 00:35:51,628 --> 00:35:53,748 Speaker 14: wasn't my fault. They blew up because they didn't realize 874 00:35:53,788 --> 00:35:56,508 Speaker 14: the game was a realistic game. But I love getting 875 00:35:56,508 --> 00:35:59,868 Speaker 14: the opportunity to be with my brothers because you know, 876 00:36:00,068 --> 00:36:02,908 Speaker 14: very few times you play a game and you go off. 877 00:36:03,028 --> 00:36:05,388 Speaker 14: You have a job, and you don't talk to people 878 00:36:05,388 --> 00:36:07,268 Speaker 14: at the job, like, golly, I'm ready to get off work. 879 00:36:07,268 --> 00:36:08,788 Speaker 14: I hope I don't see these people, but I have 880 00:36:08,788 --> 00:36:11,028 Speaker 14: to see them tomorrow. I don't have that feeling with 881 00:36:11,108 --> 00:36:13,028 Speaker 14: my teammates. It's like when I get a chance around 882 00:36:13,028 --> 00:36:15,948 Speaker 14: to see Sharn or Cam or Cliff, to do anything 883 00:36:15,988 --> 00:36:18,388 Speaker 14: with them. It feels like a brotherhood and family coming 884 00:36:18,428 --> 00:36:20,708 Speaker 14: back together. And to play this game and have this 885 00:36:20,788 --> 00:36:23,748 Speaker 14: technical experience of what the SWAT goes through, it was 886 00:36:23,748 --> 00:36:27,108 Speaker 14: perfect to depend on my brothers, depend on leadership, go 887 00:36:27,188 --> 00:36:30,268 Speaker 14: through something as a process. Again, to have one common 888 00:36:30,308 --> 00:36:32,948 Speaker 14: goal was to win. But unfortunately they all died in 889 00:36:32,988 --> 00:36:35,948 Speaker 14: the game, and I survived for some reason. I mean, 890 00:36:35,988 --> 00:36:37,828 Speaker 14: I think I just know, I just I don't know. 891 00:36:37,908 --> 00:36:40,308 Speaker 14: I'm just more stute than them, I guess. But I 892 00:36:40,428 --> 00:36:42,068 Speaker 14: enjoyed the game. The game was a very it's a 893 00:36:42,148 --> 00:36:44,228 Speaker 14: very realistic game, and I think sometimes when you have 894 00:36:44,588 --> 00:36:46,868 Speaker 14: these kind of games that are not very realistic, and 895 00:36:46,908 --> 00:36:48,708 Speaker 14: at this point, this was one of those games that 896 00:36:48,788 --> 00:36:51,188 Speaker 14: felt realistic. The gameplay, the way that you have to 897 00:36:51,228 --> 00:36:53,788 Speaker 14: talk on and being able to use your weapons, and 898 00:36:53,948 --> 00:36:55,868 Speaker 14: it's just a really game that kind of has the 899 00:36:55,868 --> 00:36:58,548 Speaker 14: same kind of sense of what it's important as a 900 00:36:58,548 --> 00:37:02,188 Speaker 14: swat team to be on one accord because one bad 901 00:37:02,268 --> 00:37:05,028 Speaker 14: move requires somebody somebody might die, and in the game, 902 00:37:05,108 --> 00:37:07,668 Speaker 14: one bad player can require you to so depending on 903 00:37:07,708 --> 00:37:08,068 Speaker 14: each other. 904 00:37:08,308 --> 00:37:10,148 Speaker 12: Was it was very good. 905 00:37:10,668 --> 00:37:12,708 Speaker 8: Mike just wanted to say thank you for coming on 906 00:37:12,748 --> 00:37:14,668 Speaker 8: the show, thank you for the knowledge, thank you for 907 00:37:14,708 --> 00:37:16,628 Speaker 8: the energy, and just thank you for being you. We 908 00:37:16,668 --> 00:37:20,068 Speaker 8: are baby, we love you. Good luck with everything. Tell 909 00:37:20,148 --> 00:37:22,108 Speaker 8: Hella and the Baby's just said hello, And I know 910 00:37:22,148 --> 00:37:24,268 Speaker 8: you're doing a lot of art now. Keep inspiring the 911 00:37:24,268 --> 00:37:26,628 Speaker 8: world to do great things and hopefully we'll be seeing 912 00:37:26,668 --> 00:37:26,988 Speaker 8: you soon. 913 00:37:27,028 --> 00:37:27,548 Speaker 7: Oos. 914 00:37:28,108 --> 00:37:30,708 Speaker 12: Thank you so much. I enjoy you guys. Thank you, Matta. 915 00:37:30,788 --> 00:37:31,708 Speaker 12: We got get back in Hawaii. 916 00:37:31,828 --> 00:37:38,708 Speaker 1: Got there. 917 00:37:38,788 --> 00:37:41,588 Speaker 8: Come on now, we have a good sushi that night though, right, 918 00:37:41,748 --> 00:37:42,468 Speaker 8: we did we did? 919 00:37:42,508 --> 00:37:42,788 Speaker 13: We did? 920 00:37:42,788 --> 00:37:43,068 Speaker 11: We did? 921 00:37:44,028 --> 00:37:46,188 Speaker 10: Hey we have good please jeez,