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Speaker 1: Welcome to today's edition of the Clay Travis and buck

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Speaker 1: Sexton Show podcast. Welcome on out number two Clay Travis

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Speaker 1: buck Sexton Show. Appreciate all of you hanging out with

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Speaker 1: us as we roll through a holiday week edition Monday Show.

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Speaker 1: We are joined now by doctor Scott Atlas. He is

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Speaker 1: a Senior Fellow in health policy at Stanford University's Hoover Institution,

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Speaker 1: former advisor on COVID to the President, and author of

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Speaker 1: the new book A Plague upon Our House, My Fight

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Speaker 1: to stop COVID from destroying America. Doctor Alice, appreciate the

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Speaker 1: time that you are spending with us. Let's dive right

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Speaker 1: into it. How much of a disaster has doctor Fauci

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Speaker 1: been for America in terms of the advice that he

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Speaker 1: has given over the last eighteen months based on your experience, Wow,

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Speaker 1: thanks for having me. You know, I think this is

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Speaker 1: something people have to understand that they have to be

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Speaker 1: critical thinkers about what is said because the advice from

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Speaker 1: the doctor there's on the task force to six months

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Speaker 1: before I got there, the three and a half months

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Speaker 1: I was there and following that has been inconsistent, erratic,

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Speaker 1: anti science, contrary to the science and they simply lack

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Speaker 1: critical thinking. Now, the head of the task force actually

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Speaker 1: with doctor Burkes, who was the Medical task Force Coordinator,

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Speaker 1: who wrote all the policy advice to the states. She

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Speaker 1: visited dozens of states, She spoke to all the local

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Speaker 1: health officials. Doctor Fauci was not in charge, but he

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Speaker 1: was the most influential figure on the media to the

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Speaker 1: was shocking, And that's one of the reasons I wrote

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Speaker 1: the book, because we have to be aware that we

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Speaker 1: can never let these kinds of people be in charge again.

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Speaker 1: There were not critical thinkers. They both been in government

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Speaker 1: bureaucrat positions for forty years. I came in as a

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Speaker 1: health policy scholar fifteen years of health policy work and

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Speaker 1: twenty five years of medical science research, clinical work in

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Speaker 1: some of the best medical centers. And so what I

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Speaker 1: would do to the meetings, I would bring in a

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Speaker 1: dozen twenty different scientific publications, data from all over the world,

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Speaker 1: and I would go through the data. When I was

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Speaker 1: asked my opinion, their approach was something very different. Their

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Speaker 1: approach was simply saying I'm an outlier, or saying that,

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Speaker 1: you know, most people agree that we should be doing lockdowns.

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Speaker 1: So of course their position. Their policy was lockdowns, restrictions,

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Speaker 1: closed schools, close businesses, curfews, quarantines, and this was the

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Speaker 1: policy during the entire year that was implemented by almost

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Speaker 1: every governor. I visited only one state during my three

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Speaker 1: and a half times, and that was Florida, who did

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Speaker 1: something very differently. And so, you know, we have a

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Speaker 1: problem here because we have bureaucrats who were not critical thinkers.

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Speaker 1: They never cited the data, they never refuted anything I

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Speaker 1: with each other. They had a pact that Burkes revealed later,

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Speaker 1: which was if one of them was fired, they would

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Speaker 1: all just quit, which is not exactly the attitude of

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Speaker 1: people trying to help the country in my opinion. And secondly,

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Speaker 1: people from Harvard, Stanford, Tufts University UCLA. These were the

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Speaker 1: medical scientists who were doing the research on the pandemic,

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Speaker 1: and they were there to answer the President's questions. Doctor

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Speaker 1: Burkes was asked to come to the meeting. She refused,

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Speaker 1: and in fact that almost scuttled the entire meeting. And

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Speaker 1: parallel streams of data being given to the President that

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Speaker 1: the funnel. So this is the attitude of a bureaucrat,

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Speaker 1: because the country is off the rails. People were dying.

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Speaker 1: The lockdowns were implemented, they failed to stop the spread

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Speaker 1: of the infection. They failed to stop the dying, and

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Speaker 1: they destroyed and then pluted a tremendous amount of harm

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Speaker 1: The lockdowns were a luxury of the rich, and they

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Speaker 1: without thinking through what was important. Doctor Atlas, it's buck.

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Speaker 1: You know, we just got more information last few days,

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Speaker 1: I should say, more pronouncements in from Fauci and the

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Speaker 1: the data is the vaccines are protective against death, and

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Speaker 1: lanes the protection against death lanes for people who are

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Speaker 1: over eighty. Okay, so if your high risk, you know,

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Speaker 1: it makes sense you should be taking the vaccine high

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Speaker 1: That makes end. But to say that you know you

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Speaker 1: this disease, I mean this has proven. This was only

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Speaker 1: It's been proven, it's consistent. And so to say that

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Speaker 1: extremely low risk for healthy children. And then in the

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Speaker 1: vaccine a booster data the safety has only been valued

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Speaker 1: for like thirty day periods in Israel, thirty days is

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Speaker 1: not a safety evaluation. And to say you need a

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Speaker 1: booster if you're protected against dying, that's what's important here

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Speaker 1: now high risk people. Okay, but you know, people have

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Speaker 1: protection does not come after being infective. That's just that's

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Speaker 1: be critical thinkers ourselves, for ourselves and our families. We

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Speaker 1: book out, encouraging to check it out. A Plague upon

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Speaker 1: Doctor Atlas. Much of the Red States, it appears, have

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Speaker 1: basically gotten back to normalcy. I live in Tennessee. I'm

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Speaker 1: just always been valuing independent thought. We see protests going

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Speaker 1: now at this point they've had at least one dose,

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Speaker 1: think it was brave to be there and do what

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Speaker 1: somebody who was thinking about doing that, because let's just remember,

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Speaker 1: Kyle does what he did. There's no video there just

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Speaker 1: happened to be no video that was clear of the incident.

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Speaker 1: That young man probably goes to prison for the rest

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Speaker 1: of his life or at least for a few decades,

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Speaker 1: which is pretty close to the same thing. So that's

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Speaker 1: what I mean. You cannot trust the system. You can't

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Speaker 1: trust the district attorney, this guy Chisholm at a Milwaukee.

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Speaker 1: You can't trust these people in the state. I'm not

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Speaker 1: even talking about the rioters. You can't trust the state

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Speaker 1: to do the right thing. They essentially abandoned Kenosha to

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Speaker 1: the left. They should have had National Guard out there

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Speaker 1: tear gassing and resting and taking care of business. Oh no,

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Speaker 1: not in Kenosha. They did it all over the country.

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Speaker 1: They abandoned any sort of law and order. And that's

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Speaker 1: why my point is, regardless of what your political leanings

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Speaker 1: I don't want my kids out responding to the protesters.

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Speaker 1: I don't think it's safe period, because the state abrogated

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Speaker 1: its responsibility to protect business, to protect citizens, and to

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Speaker 1: protect the city. And that is the fundamental failure. That

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Speaker 1: has been no suggestion that the Blake story had anything

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Speaker 1: There hasn't been any suggestion that all of these stories

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Speaker 1: happens when the people that are supposed to enforce the

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Speaker 1: social justice is more important than actual justice, and that

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Speaker 1: criminal should get away with things. Welcome back to the

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Speaker 1: Clay and buck Show. We've seen for a long time

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Speaker 1: now the rise in violent crime across the country. We've

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Speaker 1: seen that murders, shootings have skyrocketed. I mean, one of

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Speaker 1: the ones that is the most mind blowing to me,

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Speaker 1: and it's they're way up at Houston, They're way up

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Speaker 1: in New York, They're way up in every major an

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Speaker 1: all Democrat controlled major city by population really in the country.

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Speaker 1: Portland had a thousand shootings over last year, a thousand

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Speaker 1: in a city that's not that big by population, by far,

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Speaker 1: the most it's ever had. One thing that we're seeing

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Speaker 1: prosecutors in place who are supposed to be deterring crime

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Speaker 1: and they decide that well, that doesn't seem like a

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Speaker 1: social justice mission that they really want to take on,

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Speaker 1: bad things happen. Case in point, and this is also

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Speaker 1: at a moment where we're looking at the at the

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Speaker 1: incident involving Darryl Brooks here and we're looking at this

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Speaker 1: individual and we're understanding that he was let out just

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Speaker 1: two days after being arrested for a crime of trying

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Speaker 1: to run over with his car the mother of his children. Meanwhile,

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Speaker 1: you have people. You've got, you know, grannies who are

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Speaker 1: waving a flag inside the Capitol in solitary confinement for

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Speaker 1: you know, eight months on end, because there's such a

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Speaker 1: danger to the public and in the in the the

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Speaker 1: EC holding cells endlessly and clay over the weekend alone,

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Speaker 1: just the last few days, you have what I think

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Speaker 1: you have to call now theft mobs, because this is

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Speaker 1: not one or two people. This is ten, fifteen, twenty,

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Speaker 1: perhaps thirty or more people at a time, pulling up

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Speaker 1: in cars, running into a high end retail establishment, grabbing

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Speaker 1: everything in sight, and running out with it. They did

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Speaker 1: this in San Francisco over the weekend at Union Square,

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Speaker 1: very famous, well known place, the Louis Vaton store there.

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Speaker 1: They did this in Chicago at a Louis Vaton store,

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Speaker 1: over one hundred thousand dollars of merchandise stolen. Do you

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Speaker 1: think any of the people caught Claire are going to

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Speaker 1: serve really severe sentences? Doubtful not Buck. And actually one

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Speaker 1: in Union Square. For people who don't know San Francisco

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Speaker 1: well historically, Buck, Union Square is like, I mean, there's

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Speaker 1: a Louis Vatan there for God's sake. I mean, this

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Speaker 1: is a super high end area. Because we've been talking

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Speaker 1: in San Francisco about I believe it was Walgreens that

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Speaker 1: has effectively said, hey, we've got so much thievery that

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Speaker 1: is going on that they're shutting down five Walgreens. And

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Speaker 1: the impact here is substantial because those are jobs in

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Speaker 1: lower income areas that are important to so many people

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Speaker 1: in those communities, and they're basically saying, hey, we can't

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Speaker 1: run these stores anymore. But Union Square is the heart

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Speaker 1: of San Francisco, a high end shopping district, and they're

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Speaker 1: just showing up and running roughshod through a Louis Vatan

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Speaker 1: with no expectation that there's going to be any law

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Speaker 1: enforcement at all. And there are people This is gonna

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Speaker 1: be fascinating to watch because they're trying to recall Chesa

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Speaker 1: Boudin right now in San Francisco, who has made all

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Speaker 1: of this possible by effectively saying, hey, we're not going

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Speaker 1: to do any sort of criminal enforcement anymore. The rule

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Speaker 1: is if you steal less than nine hundred and fifty dollars,

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Speaker 1: the police won't can arrest. That's the rule. Clay By

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Speaker 1: Chester Boudin. It is madness, Buck, and even in San Francisco.

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Speaker 1: And this is why I know that things are changing substantially.

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Speaker 1: I've got a lot of friends who live out in

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Speaker 1: San Francisco. We don't agree on a lot of political

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Speaker 1: related issues. They've started listening to the show. Buck, you

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Speaker 1: were talking about one of your buddies in New York

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Speaker 1: who's not necessarily like a conservative radio listener. But they're

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Speaker 1: getting so fed up with quality of life related issues

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Speaker 1: and with this sort of crazy propaganda media world that

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Speaker 1: we live in, where they start to get told things

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Speaker 1: that they see what their own eyes are not true.

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Speaker 1: There's a demand for honesty. I gotta tell you another group,

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Speaker 1: just the same way that I have a friend who's

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Speaker 1: a corporate lawyer in lifelong Democrat who says he loves

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Speaker 1: us for holding Fauci accountable, a guy I've known a

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Speaker 1: very long time in my life and a huge fan

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Speaker 1: of the show. I have prosecutors and I get. I mean,

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Speaker 1: I'm the one who's pointing out, for example, that Chisholm,

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Speaker 1: guy that just and down murder all these people with

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Speaker 1: the John Doe case against Scott Walker years ago. He

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Speaker 1: abused this secret investigative tactic to try to go after

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Speaker 1: the Walker campaign. I interviewed somebody that they were trying

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Speaker 1: to throw in prison for seven years for crimes like

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Speaker 1: using her cell phone inside instead of outside a building

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Speaker 1: for campaign business. Chisholm is an absolute political hatchetman, a

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Speaker 1: Democrat left winger, of course, and he's the guy in

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Speaker 1: Milwaukee Jessi budin these other guys. I'm just pointing out

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Speaker 1: to Larry Krasner in Philadelphia. People that I know who

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Speaker 1: are prosecutors reach out. They're like, thank you for trashing

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Speaker 1: these awful prosecutors who undermine what it is we're trying

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Speaker 1: to do, which is enforced the law and make everybody safer.

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Speaker 1: No one is safer because prosecutors feel sanctimonious and self

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Speaker 1: righteous for letting criminals go. And that's what major cities,

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Speaker 1: including New York, including San Francisco. I'm sure it's happening

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Speaker 1: in Houston too. That's what's going on. There's no doubt

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Speaker 1: and buck what this all represents is being concerned with

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Speaker 1: overpunishing criminals is a luxury of low crime. Right Cyclically,

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Speaker 1: when people start to say, hey, maybe we're putting people

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Speaker 1: in jail for too long, it's because the crime rate

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Speaker 1: has gotten so low that it is a luxury to

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Speaker 1: be concerned that you are overpunishing criminals back in the nineties,

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Speaker 1: and I think that's where we're headed all over again.

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Speaker 1: Three strikes in, you're out. Remember Joe Biden helped to

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Speaker 1: pass that. The reality is putting hardened criminals behind bars

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Speaker 1: for a long time does work, and it drives down,

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Speaker 1: particularly in violent crime incidents, drives down the overall rate

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Speaker 1: of crime in this country. Look, everybody in Milwaukee who

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Speaker 1: is looking at what just happened in Waukeshaw is saying,

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Speaker 1: how in the world did this violent criminal have the

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Speaker 1: blood at least five people wound, forty people driving through

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Speaker 1: a Christmas parade. We are failing at protecting our communities

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Speaker 1: when that guy was allowed back on the streets for

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Speaker 1: a small amount of bail. Total failure of the criminal justices.

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Speaker 1: We should have major updates for you momentarily based on

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Speaker 1: police doing a press conference on what happened in Wauka Shaw.

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Speaker 1: The police update is expected momentarily, so we'll know a

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Speaker 1: whole lot more about what is clearly a mass murder,

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Speaker 1: mass casualty incident in Wisconsin. We'll bring you more on that,

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Speaker 1: plus the fight against COVID. That's all coming up. Stay

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