Speaker 1: From the King of sports Books comes the Key sports
Speaker 1: podcast Unleashed, presented by bet MGM. Here's your host, Joanna's
Speaker 1: Papas and Olivia Arlan Decker. Welcome Malcolm. This is Unleashed
Speaker 1: by bet MGM, the King of sports Books, and once
Speaker 1: again Los Angeles is the city of champions, the Lakers,
Speaker 1: the Dodgers, and now the Rams. What a game, my god.
Speaker 1: They kept it interesting for the betters until the end.
Speaker 1: You honest, you took the Rams to win big. But
Speaker 1: I don't think you're actually putting any money on it
Speaker 1: this week, right. I did not put any money on
Speaker 1: it because I don't trust myself. I don't trust you either.
Speaker 1: That's trust me. Yeah, So I didn't put any money
Speaker 1: on it. But let's just say I believe Oh b
Speaker 1: J does not have the unfortunate injury. He was already
Speaker 1: a touchdown in fifty two yards in. He looked like
Speaker 1: he had to beat on his man. And you know
Speaker 1: that Ram's offense with him as a second or third option.
Speaker 1: My prediction could have been right. They could have run
Speaker 1: away with it if Destiny had didn't have other plans.
Speaker 1: So I'm gonna say I was half right about a
Speaker 1: Rams blowout. I agree. I think you're totally right. Oh
Speaker 1: b J was cooking up something special and that was
Speaker 1: too bad. Really sucks for him too, though, And and
Speaker 1: of all the flak that man has gotten throughout the years,
Speaker 1: Like I even found myself cheering for him. I really
Speaker 1: liked him in that game. So that was too bad.
Speaker 1: And yeah, you would have looked much smarter today than
Speaker 1: you look now. But I'm feeling pretty good because I
Speaker 1: went on all these shows for two weeks preaching the
Speaker 1: Bengals are going to keep it close. Take the Bengals
Speaker 1: with the spread, take Ram's money line. Not to mention,
Speaker 1: a lot of my props hit too, So can you
Speaker 1: tell him just like I'm gloating, I'm excited, I'm feeling
Speaker 1: really crowd. You know. This is my first season in
Speaker 1: the betting world, and I ended on a high. You
Speaker 1: certainly did, and I have to give it up to you.
Speaker 1: You called everything, You called everything right, and it's not
Speaker 1: how you play the game, it's how you finish. You
Speaker 1: lost to me all year, but you finished strong and
Speaker 1: you redeemed yourself. Oh D, I now can call you
Speaker 1: the great. Oh D, what an amazing set of calls
Speaker 1: you made. Until next season where you kick my ass again. Oh,
Speaker 1: don't forget Pro Bowl. I should have put my life
Speaker 1: savings on the Pro Bowl over We were sitting there
Speaker 1: at that game in like early third quarter the overheit,
Speaker 1: and I was like, man, why did I only put
Speaker 1: a hundred bucks on? I should have put like ten
Speaker 1: dollars on that? Right, you made a little money. We
Speaker 1: walked over and we collected, and then I went and
Speaker 1: took money out intending to gabbling. But then I just
Speaker 1: spent it on cocaine. So that's what you do it for.
Speaker 1: I'm just kidding. I've never done cocaine in my life.
Speaker 1: Kids do not do it. That's a joke. I spent
Speaker 1: it at the buffet. I'm a fat, fat kid, be honest,
Speaker 1: is a walking liability, and I the stuff like that
Speaker 1: makes me so uncomfortable, and he knows it. So I
Speaker 1: just turned red. Every walking around Vegas, he just says stuff,
Speaker 1: and just I turned red. Okay, So we're not done
Speaker 1: with football just yet. We have a great guest coming up.
Speaker 1: Former NFL quarterback Ryan Leaf will join us going to
Speaker 1: talk about the big game and with NFL Draft right
Speaker 1: around the corner, let's get his thoughts on the big
Speaker 1: name quarterbacks available. Yeah. Man, I just missed football already,
Speaker 1: and it's crazy the odds for next year's Super Bowl champion,
Speaker 1: it's already up on bed MGM. Be honest, it's very early.
Speaker 1: But do you have any bets you like? Uh? Right now? No,
Speaker 1: I'm taking a little break with my money. I'm gonna
Speaker 1: try to maybe horse racing. Maybe I'll talk to Peter
Speaker 1: Andrew about some horse racing horses. Maybe I'll throw some
Speaker 1: some juice on some uh some races. But other than that,
Speaker 1: I'm just gear enough for us to focus on basketball,
Speaker 1: and I'm gonna start putting a little money on hoops. Yeah, no,
Speaker 1: I hear. Yeah, We're gonna have a lot of fun
Speaker 1: with the NBA. Now we can kind of dial in.
Speaker 1: You know, there's an old adage in sports that no
Speaker 1: one really pays attention to the NBA until after the
Speaker 1: Super Bowl. I know that's a major generalization, but I
Speaker 1: think there's some truth to it. So now our show,
Speaker 1: we are going to pivot to hoops, and especially with
Speaker 1: March Madness coming up, come on, We're gonna have so
Speaker 1: much fun with that. Absolutely, and we'll also be covering
Speaker 1: the Turkish League for you fans out there in Turkey
Speaker 1: who've been listening. There's a player out there who's doing big,
Speaker 1: big things and his team is doing well. So we'll
Speaker 1: be covering the Turkish league as well for those fans,
Speaker 1: and by that I mean you and your family. All right,
Speaker 1: So we got bet MGM betting expert Peter and you
Speaker 1: joining us later on to discuss this week's action. But
Speaker 1: for now, it is time for us to lead. It's
Speaker 1: time to leach. Oh my gosh, where do we start
Speaker 1: with this game? It was such a good Super Bowl.
Speaker 1: I gotta say, honest, we both flew out of there.
Speaker 1: You Wednesday night meet Thursday morning. I'm glad I watched
Speaker 1: it on TV. I like watching the Super Bowl on TV.
Speaker 1: I've been to so many of my life, and you
Speaker 1: just pick up on more when you're watching it on TV.
Speaker 1: Like the halftime show was incredible, but the performances off
Speaker 1: the field, I feel like could win an Oscar. The
Speaker 1: celebrities were all over the place. Martha Stewart, Guy Theory,
Speaker 1: Charlie's thrown. You had Antonio Brown sitting next to Kanye
Speaker 1: and a full mask look Kanye like went on one
Speaker 1: the Super Bowl Sunday. He was trending, he was in
Speaker 1: a commercial, he was being his normal weird self. But
Speaker 1: I loved it. But I think the Super Bowl was
Speaker 1: filled with great storylines. You know a lot of people
Speaker 1: leading up to the Super Bowl talked about how likable
Speaker 1: Joe Burrow is and the Bengals are, and I agree, like,
Speaker 1: I'm totally on that bandwagon. But I thought, you know,
Speaker 1: when you have to jump on one team and just
Speaker 1: defy it when your team isn't in the super Bowl,
Speaker 1: the Rams were about as likable as you could get.
Speaker 1: So for a two week span, I was all in
Speaker 1: on the Rams. I was really excited, perhaps no one
Speaker 1: more than Cooper Cup. He nearly carried the Rams on
Speaker 1: that final drive, converting a huge fourth and one, then
Speaker 1: catching the game winning touchdown after nearly being knocked out.
Speaker 1: He capped off one of the greatest seasons we've ever
Speaker 1: seen from a wide receiver. He got Offensive Player of
Speaker 1: the Year honors. I love that, and a Super Bowl
Speaker 1: m v P. Of course, his story about how his
Speaker 1: now wife was supporting him through college at Eastern Washington
Speaker 1: so he could pursue his NFL dreams. That's I mean,
Speaker 1: just straight out of Hollywood. He had almost no offers
Speaker 1: out of high school. He was very looked. So that's
Speaker 1: a great story. And he had one of the most
Speaker 1: dominant defensive players of all time, three time Defensive Player
Speaker 1: of the Year Aaron Donald trying to get his first
Speaker 1: ring one of the only things he had left to
Speaker 1: do in his career, really, and now he's kind of
Speaker 1: flirting with retirement. I don't know, he might come back,
Speaker 1: might not, but either way, what a way to end
Speaker 1: his career if that's what he does. Von Miller, you know,
Speaker 1: he was traded from Denver. He wins his second Super Bowl.
Speaker 1: He had only been with the Broncos, so that was
Speaker 1: a big deal. And now there's kind of talk does
Speaker 1: he go back to the Broncos if they're going to
Speaker 1: put together a little super team here. But for this year,
Speaker 1: he was an incredible story and incredible edition for the Rams.
Speaker 1: O b J. How can I overlook? O b J.
Speaker 1: He resurrected his career after getting out of Cleveland, fans
Speaker 1: saying he was washed. He came out dominating the game
Speaker 1: until he was injured right before the half. That was
Speaker 1: that was really hard to watch. I hope he's okay.
Speaker 1: It's looking now like it is an a c L.
Speaker 1: Hope not, but that's uh, that's what happened in the
Speaker 1: honest I know, you feel passionately about the way that
Speaker 1: changed the game. I loved the end of the game.
Speaker 1: He's on the field crying, hugging his mom and his
Speaker 1: girlfriend who is nine months pregnant. She's due this week
Speaker 1: with their first baby. And I wasn't sure if she'd
Speaker 1: even go to the game. You know, I was social
Speaker 1: media checking if she was there, and she did, and
Speaker 1: he was kissing her belly and hugging her. I mean,
Speaker 1: that was a very sweet moment. And then of course
Speaker 1: Andrew Whitworth Walter Payton Man of the Year who at
Speaker 1: forty years old, won his first Super Bowl against his
Speaker 1: former team. I want to say he's one of three
Speaker 1: players to play in his forties, Brady, Jerry, Rice and him.
Speaker 1: So that's very cool. Eric Weddle coming out of retirement
Speaker 1: at age thirty seven, he last played in the NFL
Speaker 1: in twenty nineteen. He goes ahead, wins himself a Super Bowl,
Speaker 1: goes back to retirement. I mean, that story is awesome.
Speaker 1: And then I've been saying this for a couple of
Speaker 1: weeks now Matt Stafford and his awesome wife, Kelly, who
Speaker 1: got diagnosed with a brain tumor a couple of years ago.
Speaker 1: They overcame that they've been such great role models. They
Speaker 1: have four beautiful children, and he was just wasting away
Speaker 1: in Detroit for twelve seasons, he never won a playoff game.
Speaker 1: He comes to l A and wins the whole damn
Speaker 1: thing in his first season. So I just I love
Speaker 1: their story. She's been on all these podcast and everything
Speaker 1: this week, and she's just so relatable and funny, and
Speaker 1: I just love them. So got to talk about a
Speaker 1: night you'll never forget to. Van Jefferson wins the Super
Speaker 1: Bowl racist to the hospital where his son was born.
Speaker 1: Just hours later. His wife actually left the game at
Speaker 1: halftime on a stretcher. So I don't know what's in
Speaker 1: the water in l A. But a lot of these
Speaker 1: rams wives are are popping out babies, like on Super
Speaker 1: Bowl Night. That's uh, that's not good. But you know,
Speaker 1: I'm a sucker for a good story. This team was
Speaker 1: just riddled with them and so many players to get
Speaker 1: behind and love. So my ramdom is now done. Now
Speaker 1: I'm back on to my Packers and Chiefs but boy
Speaker 1: were they an easy team and cheer for. That was
Speaker 1: a great unleashed and vintage classic oh D having another
Speaker 1: team to root for, I mean talk about the I mean,
Speaker 1: you will just go wherever the good story is, like
Speaker 1: a good journalist, and I respect you for that. Yeah,
Speaker 1: it was an amazing game with tons of good stories.
Speaker 1: You almost feel like the Rams were the team of
Speaker 1: Destiny with all those stories that they had and that
Speaker 1: they fulfilled. It is kind of fitting. Yeah, I'm Kanye West,
Speaker 1: of course, trying to steal the microphone from the game
Speaker 1: was trending, putting the math Fund, doing whatever he could
Speaker 1: to get attention because he's upset that my friend Pete
Speaker 1: Davidson is pork and his ex wife. What can do
Speaker 1: Pete Davidson is Helena Staten Island. He's causing wars with
Speaker 1: that big old piece that he has. Anyway, anyway, Yeah,
Speaker 1: I mean I kind of had enough of Kanye West
Speaker 1: in his fencing helmet, you know, sitting there in l
Speaker 1: a E. We get it, Kanye, you like to make news, alright, Yes,
Speaker 1: so this is what I want on Leshawn this week.
Speaker 1: It's really that I believe the Rams should have covered Okay,
Speaker 1: the game was heading, like we said, towards the possible
Speaker 1: blowout it until my man O b J got injured.
Speaker 1: The kid had like fifty two yards and a touchdown,
Speaker 1: major contributor in that playoff run, and was probably about
Speaker 1: to explode and be the m v P, which I
Speaker 1: did call in our episode with Terrell Owens. I said
Speaker 1: he was gonna be the m v P and I
Speaker 1: think he still should have been the m v P
Speaker 1: again if Destiny didn't have something else in mind. So,
Speaker 1: but here's what I really want to talk about. We
Speaker 1: saw some questionable coaching all season, and the only person
Speaker 1: that made a worst call than Kanye West wearing that
Speaker 1: goddamn fencing helmet on a ninety degree day in l
Speaker 1: A was Bengals coach Zach Taylor. I'm putting the spotlight
Speaker 1: on you, my friend. I mean me as a casual fan.
Speaker 1: If I'm sitting there drinking Trulie's with my friend Paul
Speaker 1: Versey and I'm screaming at the TV, it's obvious. First
Speaker 1: of all, what happened to the John Madden old adage
Speaker 1: Take the points. Take the points. One of the first
Speaker 1: places of the game, they get all the way down
Speaker 1: close to the red zone, kick the field goal, take
Speaker 1: the points that ended up going the other way, and
Speaker 1: oh b Jake scored that touchdown, So that's a ten
Speaker 1: point turnaround right there. I mean. And then of course
Speaker 1: let's talk about the end of the game. In that
Speaker 1: final drive third and one, every play there you're trying
Speaker 1: to get yards to get into field goal range. You
Speaker 1: do have two time outs, but why would you run
Speaker 1: the ball, especially with that line on the other side.
Speaker 1: Sam Donald, hungry as hell looking, eat up whatever, tries
Speaker 1: to run through it, and why wouldn't you use Nixon? Okay,
Speaker 1: this is ridiculous. So they end up running the ball
Speaker 1: it don't they don't get it. Then they're forced to
Speaker 1: a fourth and one and Sam Donald makes his heroic
Speaker 1: sack to end the game. It was a horrible call.
Speaker 1: Keep passing the ball, don't force yourself to have to
Speaker 1: take a time out. In that situation, they should have
Speaker 1: been thrown towards the sidelines or at least throwing you know,
Speaker 1: if they were taking the sidelines away defensively, they should
Speaker 1: have thrown it and trying to get out of bounds
Speaker 1: to keep events in the ball into field goal range.
Speaker 1: They weren't there yet stupid, stupid call. It should have
Speaker 1: went into overtime. I say the refs are not the
Speaker 1: villain here. I'm saying the play calling is. I'm ready
Speaker 1: to be hired as a coach because I could probably
Speaker 1: do a better job. Well, you would do a better
Speaker 1: job as a coach than a fact checker, because I
Speaker 1: caught like three different players names said wrong. Well, reality,
Speaker 1: and I'm just dying. You said Sam Donald, not Aaron Donald.
Speaker 1: He said Joe Nixon not mixing? Did he say mixing?
Speaker 1: I probably got them both wrong, but that's what happens
Speaker 1: when I get perturbed. And I just said perturbed wrong.
Speaker 1: So I was perturbed and I said a few names wrong,
Speaker 1: just like that play calling was wrong from Zach Taylor
Speaker 1: And did I you say his name wrong? To John Taylor?
Speaker 1: There you go. You know I love you, and you
Speaker 1: know it's just a theme of our show is how
Speaker 1: you say a lot of players names wrong. But to
Speaker 1: be fair, I say a bunch of weird phrases wrong
Speaker 1: all the time and you call me out on that.
Speaker 1: But yeah, I just I can't get it right. I'm
Speaker 1: just you know, I just can't get it right. But
Speaker 1: that was a great unleashed, and I think a lot
Speaker 1: of people agree with you. Let's see if our guest
Speaker 1: this week agrees with you. Ryan Leaf is joining us now.
Speaker 1: Our guest today led Washington State to the Rose Bowl
Speaker 1: and was the number two pick of the NFL Draft,
Speaker 1: behind a guy named Peyton Manning. It's too bad nothing
Speaker 1: ever came of him, but his biggest comeback has been
Speaker 1: in life itself. NFL and college football analyst Ryan Leaf
Speaker 1: is here. Ryan, thanks for joining us. You bet happy
Speaker 1: to be here, happy that super Bowl Week went so well.
Speaker 1: We got such a great game, and uh, you know,
Speaker 1: ready to ready to start and attack the offseason. I
Speaker 1: guess absolutely. I was just saying you were everywhere super
Speaker 1: Bowl week. You were on Radio Row, on all the
Speaker 1: TV shows. L A. Times did a piece on you.
Speaker 1: Tell us what your week was like. That was that
Speaker 1: looked busy? Yeah, I mean super Bowl week usually is,
Speaker 1: you know. I I I started this back. It's Super
Speaker 1: Bowl fifty in San Francisco. I had recently been released
Speaker 1: from prison. I had gone up there to get a
Speaker 1: health check through the NFL screening process, and when I
Speaker 1: was up there, ran into some close friends and they
Speaker 1: brought me onto Radio Row and it kind of became
Speaker 1: this thing. I was starting to tell my story a
Speaker 1: bit and share it in the hopes that somebody needed
Speaker 1: to hear it would hear it. And it's such a
Speaker 1: huge platform. Super Bowl is even if you don't haven't
Speaker 1: watched football, you're long you tune into that game and
Speaker 1: everybody's listening into the build up and stuff. So every
Speaker 1: Super Bowl has been pretty pretty busy, you know, opportunities.
Speaker 1: I mentioned how I watched the Ellen Show when I
Speaker 1: was in prison and the Houston Super Bowl, and a
Speaker 1: week later their producers were calling me and I was
Speaker 1: on Ellen with my family and everything like that. So
Speaker 1: I mean, it's it's been pretty crazy how far that reaches.
Speaker 1: And luckily for me and my family, I don't know
Speaker 1: if we would have traveled, if it would have been
Speaker 1: anywhere but l A, since we live in l A.
Speaker 1: So it made it very convenient to do all the
Speaker 1: things that I was being asked to do over the
Speaker 1: last week. In particularly, you talked about, you know, my
Speaker 1: work with Serious x M, which it is amazing coverage
Speaker 1: they have, They probably had the best set up on
Speaker 1: radio role a week long, and and then working with
Speaker 1: Sam Farmer at the l a times with this speaker
Speaker 1: series that was huge, and yeah, I just had a
Speaker 1: great week. Ironically enough, I find myself smack dab in
Speaker 1: the middle of the media now and I think it's
Speaker 1: a bit of karma for how poorly I treated the
Speaker 1: media my whole life, I think when I was a player.
Speaker 1: So it is what it is. I enjoy talking the game.
Speaker 1: That's what I had gone to school for. UM. I
Speaker 1: have a communications degree there at Washington State. So I
Speaker 1: just took me a long time to figure out how
Speaker 1: to use it as a comedian. We you know, we
Speaker 1: spoke before we went on live, and I'm a comedian.
Speaker 1: So I got so many friends who were in recovery,
Speaker 1: and I always tell them. A few of them are
Speaker 1: really close to me that they're you know, they're my
Speaker 1: role models because I know what they have to go
Speaker 1: through and on a day to day basis, and I
Speaker 1: just respect what they go through. So for anyone who
Speaker 1: doesn't know, that's your story, right, you struggled with that,
Speaker 1: You've come through the other end. Now you inspire others.
Speaker 1: I was curious, UM, do you guys, those of you
Speaker 1: who played professional sports and who were in recovery, do
Speaker 1: you guys communicate with each other, like I know Chris
Speaker 1: Herring and basketball is a big story. He travels and talks.
Speaker 1: Do you guys talk to each other? You're aware of
Speaker 1: his story? Oh yeah, Chris Aaron's story was incredibly meaningful.
Speaker 1: And early on when I was trying to figure out
Speaker 1: how to live this, this public sober life, he was
Speaker 1: a huge mentor of mine. Right, We talked on the
Speaker 1: phone a bunch, and we've kept up with one another.
Speaker 1: You know, he started his own nonprofit and which has
Speaker 1: ultimately turned into a recovery community and a treatment center,
Speaker 1: and so he's a role model for sure. And then
Speaker 1: you know, I got a chance at Super Bowl to
Speaker 1: to see Max Crosby and Darren Waller and over the
Speaker 1: last year and stuff. Their stories are so impressive to me,
Speaker 1: especially being able to do it while they're still at
Speaker 1: the top of their game. I would have loved to
Speaker 1: have been able to address my behavioral issues and my
Speaker 1: mental illness when I was playing, because maybe I could
Speaker 1: have been a better football player at that level. Right,
Speaker 1: That's what led to the substance use, the failure with
Speaker 1: all the expectation, and I started wanting to numb that
Speaker 1: feeling of being a failure and all those things. And
Speaker 1: so those guys are so impressive to address the issues
Speaker 1: that are going on in their lives while they're playing
Speaker 1: the most difficult professional sport there is in professional football.
Speaker 1: Just hats off to the likes of all those guys. Yeah,
Speaker 1: you mentioned mental illness and just at that high level,
Speaker 1: and even if it's Simone Biles talking about it at
Speaker 1: the Olympics of the mental block, and then you mentioned
Speaker 1: football players this year bringing up addiction issues. It's something
Speaker 1: that's been more mainstream. When you went through all this,
Speaker 1: no one was talking about this. And I'm kind of
Speaker 1: curious as you watch in college football, especially that we
Speaker 1: love so much, these guys are now getting money, they're
Speaker 1: getting exposure, opportunities are bigger than they've ever been. What
Speaker 1: do you think about these athletes at the pro in
Speaker 1: now college level dealing with this big world at a
Speaker 1: young age and the pitfalls that come with that. Well,
Speaker 1: I think, like anybody, you're going to have to address
Speaker 1: it at some point. And the idea that these young
Speaker 1: men and women were propping up their universities and making
Speaker 1: them a ton of money and not being compensated was
Speaker 1: the problem. And so no matter what you do, people
Speaker 1: complain that you're setting them down a wrong path. If
Speaker 1: you're gonna make poor choices, You're gonna make poor choices.
Speaker 1: There's nothing you can do about it. We can educate them,
Speaker 1: we can show them the path, but people are going
Speaker 1: to make the decisions they want to make. I had
Speaker 1: many of those come to Jesus moments with mentors and
Speaker 1: coaches and family when I was going through everything. If
Speaker 1: you're not willing to surrender and accept the help, it
Speaker 1: doesn't matter. You can't coddle everybody who goes through this process.
Speaker 1: People are gonna make mistakes and people are gonna flourish
Speaker 1: because of it, and you shouldn't disallow those individuals from flourishing.
Speaker 1: Because some people can't make the right choices and and
Speaker 1: never take any accountability for their actions when they do
Speaker 1: make poor choices. And that I think that was the
Speaker 1: biggest problem for me. I just I never could look
Speaker 1: in the mirror and go, dude, it's you. You're the
Speaker 1: problem here, not the fact that somebody's paying you money,
Speaker 1: or or the media is writing stories about you, or
Speaker 1: online people are commenting on you. None of that matters.
Speaker 1: It's entirely up to you. That's why there's such a
Speaker 1: pull and what I talk about in terms of accountability,
Speaker 1: owning your part. So many of my friends who are
Speaker 1: in recovery, they put that energy in other places. They
Speaker 1: become great stand ups, very successful. A lot of them
Speaker 1: are are jack. They're get in the gym and they
Speaker 1: go crazy. Where do you put that energy now? Because
Speaker 1: you look kind of jack. All I can see is
Speaker 1: your shoulders, but you look jacked. I am jacked. I'm always,
Speaker 1: you know, I'm always. I'm a professional football player. Come
Speaker 1: on now, I'm six ft seven pounds. I'm a beast um.
Speaker 1: You know. I put it into helping others. I mean,
Speaker 1: that's the purposeful part of all this. Right when I
Speaker 1: walked out of that prison, cell I fully understood that
Speaker 1: if I were to have to change it would it
Speaker 1: could never be about me again. It had to be
Speaker 1: about everybody else. And ironically enough, when you make it
Speaker 1: about other people, like the life of your dreams comes
Speaker 1: from that. So in a way it's selfish, but it
Speaker 1: may be the best recipe for success that there is.
Speaker 1: You make it about other people, not about yourself. Because
Speaker 1: I was a a narcissist like no other. Right, it
Speaker 1: was always about me. Everything that had to be about me.
Speaker 1: It was nothing about anybody else. And you know, I
Speaker 1: still have those tendencies and that. So it's a daily fight,
Speaker 1: not the substance. The substance is a byproduct. It's the
Speaker 1: symptom of the underlying mental health diagnosis, the depression, the narcissism,
Speaker 1: all of those, those are the things you have to
Speaker 1: address and and that's what I do on a daily basis,
Speaker 1: and a big part of that is traveling around sharing
Speaker 1: my story, like I said, in the hopes that somebody
Speaker 1: who who is still struggling may need to hear it,
Speaker 1: or a family member or something like that. It's all
Speaker 1: about purpose. And I think a lot of former players
Speaker 1: can attest to that. Regardless of how successful their careers were,
Speaker 1: their identity is tied up with being a football player.
Speaker 1: What do you do when that's all said and done,
Speaker 1: where's your purpose? How does it get redefined? And how
Speaker 1: do you transition? So that's a huge part of all
Speaker 1: of all of what I do on a daily basis too.
Speaker 1: I eat well, I exercise, I see a therapist. My
Speaker 1: wife and I go to a couple of syrapy. Even
Speaker 1: though we just want to be better at communicating with
Speaker 1: one another because I'm a terrible communicator. I seek out
Speaker 1: anger management better tools to deal with that because I
Speaker 1: believe I'm I'm living with CTE. I just had to
Speaker 1: address it because I got in trouble and I got
Speaker 1: sent prison, and I didn't do this in the shadows
Speaker 1: and in the dark and and allow the stigma to
Speaker 1: take it over. So I'm really blessed. So I have
Speaker 1: to understand why my brain, which has been put through trauma,
Speaker 1: is functioning, how it functions, and how I relate to things,
Speaker 1: and how impulsive I am and why do I just
Speaker 1: get angry all of a sudden or all those things.
Speaker 1: So I have to address these things all the time.
Speaker 1: It's not like anybody else. I mean, there's some unique
Speaker 1: quantifiers for me because of of the fact that I
Speaker 1: played in the NFL and some of the issues that exist,
Speaker 1: but it's like every other flawed human being who was
Speaker 1: just trying to be better every single day. It's an
Speaker 1: amazing perspective. Man. Man, Yeah, that's really moving. Talk about
Speaker 1: making your mess your message. That's such a cheesy quote,
Speaker 1: but you embody it. That's that's incredible. I know you
Speaker 1: have kids, do you have boys. I got a little boy. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I got a I got a four year old who
Speaker 1: uh okay, it was it was the absolute best. His
Speaker 1: name is mcguy. Ever, probably he's gonna be as and
Speaker 1: probably gonna be like six ft nine. That's the way
Speaker 1: we're looking. So Olivia, might have to talk to your
Speaker 1: husband about some some some lessons down the line here,
Speaker 1: all right. The reason I ask is will you let
Speaker 1: him play football? You mentioned CT Is that a concern
Speaker 1: of yours? Yeah? Most likely not my wife and I've
Speaker 1: discussed he can't wear a helmet until he's at least sixteen.
Speaker 1: You know, by that point your brain is more developed.
Speaker 1: We watched these Pop Warner kids bang around and and
Speaker 1: what now that we fully know what a concussion is, right,
Speaker 1: It's where your brain bangs into your skull on the inside,
Speaker 1: and there's nothing you can do to protect that. No
Speaker 1: matter how great the protection gets or the technology gets.
Speaker 1: Unless you are able to put something around the brain
Speaker 1: inside the skull, it's still going to bang against the
Speaker 1: interior of your skull. So I have a few friends
Speaker 1: that are that are neual neurosurgeons and neurologists and brain
Speaker 1: trauma coming in with kids these days. Fellow alumna us
Speaker 1: at Washington State, Tyler Helenski, took his own life a
Speaker 1: few years back. He had only played up until his
Speaker 1: sophomore year of college, and when the autopsy came back,
Speaker 1: he had the brain of a sixty five year old.
Speaker 1: You know, the reason I went and succeeded and did
Speaker 1: what I had to do was for me to make
Speaker 1: the future generations of my family not have to sacrifice
Speaker 1: as much. And so we're going to give him every
Speaker 1: bit of knowledge, every bit of information we can for
Speaker 1: when he turned sixteen, if he wants to and understand
Speaker 1: the consequences that may come from it, and that's the
Speaker 1: choice he decides to make. It will be entirely up
Speaker 1: to him having not played football up to that point,
Speaker 1: especially with with a helmet and pads and stuff like that.
Speaker 1: I don't even know if that will interest him right now.
Speaker 1: He's more into ninja training, which is which is Yeah,
Speaker 1: So my wife and I are coherent and we have
Speaker 1: a plan when it comes to that, and most likely no,
Speaker 1: to answer your original question, yeah right, be honest. Remember
Speaker 1: we had Merril Hodge on the Great Pittsburgh Steeler and
Speaker 1: that that was such a big part of his story
Speaker 1: is diagnosed with a concussion way too late. And you
Speaker 1: know they stack up in football, as you know. And
Speaker 1: I'm expecting a little boy in May, and I know
Speaker 1: sports is going to be a part of his life.
Speaker 1: But Taurists, he paused, Yeah, got it. They're the best.
Speaker 1: My husband's a Taurists too, so am mine. So is
Speaker 1: my wife. I love it. Tourists are cool. I'm a virgo.
Speaker 1: I don't know what that means, do it don't? Yeah,
Speaker 1: all right, let's put with the football a little bit.
Speaker 1: This game last week U Rams three Bengals twenty. That
Speaker 1: was the final score. It was an interesting game. Ramps
Speaker 1: came out strong, Bengals kept it close. Then the Rams
Speaker 1: really struggled in the second half until they were able
Speaker 1: to wear down the Bengals defense. Were you surprised by
Speaker 1: anything in this Super Bowl? Not much. I was a
Speaker 1: little surprised. I felt like Joe Burrow, there was a
Speaker 1: little bit of nerves there. He missed some throws that
Speaker 1: he normally doesn't miss. And it's fully understandable. I mean,
Speaker 1: it's the biggest stage ever, no matter how many big
Speaker 1: stages you've been on. Heisman Trophy, Winternational championship everything. You know,
Speaker 1: it's his first gotta have it game that he's lost,
Speaker 1: and uh and you can't place it all on him, right,
Speaker 1: but you gotta give a ton of credit to Raheem
Speaker 1: Morris and the adjustments he made at halftime to allow
Speaker 1: that defensive line, in particular Aaron Donald to get off
Speaker 1: because they were not making hay in the first half
Speaker 1: and they overloaded on sometimes on the side of the
Speaker 1: line of scrimmage and got Aaron Donald in more one
Speaker 1: on one matchups. In a matter of three series, he
Speaker 1: was sacked five times and that that really I think
Speaker 1: made him you know, he was he was inundated all
Speaker 1: week long about getting that ball out quickly and there
Speaker 1: were some guys that were open in that second half
Speaker 1: that he just wasn't able to get to through his
Speaker 1: progression because he didn't have the time. So incredibly impressed
Speaker 1: with that. Didn't like the fact that the officials swallowed
Speaker 1: their whistle the entire football game, and then all of
Speaker 1: a sudden thought it was important for them to interject
Speaker 1: their their personality to the end of the game. Logan
Speaker 1: was so good in that defensive play, I thought, you
Speaker 1: can't make that. It's now does the game still end
Speaker 1: up in the Rams hands? Yeah, they still would have
Speaker 1: had a couple of downs, and Matthew Stafford was playing
Speaker 1: at such an elite level there in the fourth quarter.
Speaker 1: Who knows, right, But I hate it when the officials
Speaker 1: become a part of the conversation because then it allows
Speaker 1: for so much nuance from fan bases to talk about this,
Speaker 1: that or the other. Just let the teams play. Logan
Speaker 1: made the play knock the ball down, move on to
Speaker 1: the next down, and see if they can make it go.
Speaker 1: That was unfortunate some play calling. Of course. The Bengals
Speaker 1: decision to run it on third and one right into
Speaker 1: Aaron Donald, especially with p Ryan rather than Joe Mixon,
Speaker 1: was a little interesting, maybe because they were in a
Speaker 1: passing situation and thought they would maybe get catched up
Speaker 1: by surprise by running their third down back on a
Speaker 1: on a draw down the middle. So don't get your
Speaker 1: hona started, don't get youranna started. I just went wild
Speaker 1: on that. I couldn't believe that. Yeah, so thank you
Speaker 1: for confirming more and poor only since we are doing
Speaker 1: this with bet EDGM, I had the Bengals plus four
Speaker 1: and a half and Tyler Boyd with over forty yards receiving,
Speaker 1: so that I had a good day even though I
Speaker 1: wanted my Bengals to uh to win in that game
Speaker 1: because I was just rooting for Joe Burrow. And but
Speaker 1: the other storyline with Matthew Stafford and and everything that
Speaker 1: that went into that is is so great. It was.
Speaker 1: It was a great It was a great super Bowl.
Speaker 1: The halftime show, I mean, all of it was a
Speaker 1: wonderful game to watch. Yeah, it was a great super Bowl.
Speaker 1: You mentioned Joe Burrow. It was his first postseason loss
Speaker 1: ever going back to college. He was seven and oh
Speaker 1: in playoff games and so yeah, a little a little
Speaker 1: slice of humble pie. But he didn't have much help.
Speaker 1: He was sacked seven times. Was that ultimately the difference maker?
Speaker 1: You hinted a little bit just about that Rams defensive line,
Speaker 1: how tough they were. Yeah, they just that he just
Speaker 1: didn't have the time. You know, I wasn't able to
Speaker 1: get that connection with Jamaar Chase like he's had in
Speaker 1: the past. See, Higgins played tremendous once again, but unfortunately
Speaker 1: he just didn't have the time. And you know, you
Speaker 1: go back to draft night, right in the decision to
Speaker 1: take Jamar Chase over pinas Sewell was a bit controversial
Speaker 1: because they said, the quarterback of your dreams just got
Speaker 1: knocked out out of the season last year with a
Speaker 1: knee injury, and you want to go get him a
Speaker 1: Ferrari instead of the you know, very a safe minivan
Speaker 1: that you need in pinas Seul And right, it was
Speaker 1: kind of rebuked when Jamar Chase was offensive Rookie of
Speaker 1: the year. But ultimately, what was the difference maker in
Speaker 1: this game? If you can't get the ball to Jamar Chase?
Speaker 1: If your quarterbacks getting swallowed up in a matter of
Speaker 1: one point two seconds, right, I mean, what was the
Speaker 1: point in all this? They have to address? Because they
Speaker 1: are very very good football team, they have to address
Speaker 1: that poorest offensive line or nothing or nothing's gonna change.
Speaker 1: I mean, sixty three sacks during the regular season. I
Speaker 1: think it's only third to me and David Carr in
Speaker 1: terms of how many times sacked in a season. And
Speaker 1: it's it's brutal, right, if you don't if you don't
Speaker 1: feel comfortable back there, how are you going to execute
Speaker 1: what you do best? Also, I should say this too,
Speaker 1: like it's not like the Bengals, Uh, you know, didn't
Speaker 1: belong there. I mean they're leading by four points with
Speaker 1: two minutes to go in the game, so you know
Speaker 1: it's every bit there game to take. In fact, if
Speaker 1: they were able to protect just a split second longer
Speaker 1: on Aaron Donald there at the end, he probably finds
Speaker 1: a guy or maybe even finds chase down the fields
Speaker 1: after Jalen Ramsey fell down. So I mean, this wasn't
Speaker 1: like it was an overmatched game. In fact, they dominated
Speaker 1: for most of this game, at least a second and
Speaker 1: third quarters portions of it. Yeah, that matchup was good.
Speaker 1: Do you think if O b J doesn't get hurt though,
Speaker 1: the Rams could run away with that. I mean he
Speaker 1: had fifty two yards to that point A T D. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I mean that was significant. I don't know if they
Speaker 1: would have run away with it. I just feel like
Speaker 1: Burrow and that team wouldn't find a way to hang around.
Speaker 1: But they were overwhelming with Cup and O. B J. Ever,
Speaker 1: since he came in, they have to fight tooth and
Speaker 1: nail to try to see if they if he can
Speaker 1: get a reduced contract, kind of hometown deal to keep
Speaker 1: him there. I think that's a huge You had Robert
Speaker 1: Woods to the mix. I mean this l A RAMS
Speaker 1: team offensively has a chance for the next two years,
Speaker 1: at least the next year with Matthew Stafford's expiring contract,
Speaker 1: to be really really, really good, not that they weren't
Speaker 1: this year, So yeah, it could have got at hand.
Speaker 1: I think logically everybody assumed this game should have been
Speaker 1: l A that would be the final I said, I
Speaker 1: threw logic out the window, just like the Bengals have
Speaker 1: all postseason, and I said the Bengals were gonna win
Speaker 1: that game seventeen, and sure enough it was twenty six
Speaker 1: with two minutes ago. And I thought I was pretty
Speaker 1: pretty good there in that in that sense, but not
Speaker 1: to be a clairvoyant that makes a really good better.
Speaker 1: I also took the Bengals to cover Rams money lines.
Speaker 1: So I'm feeling really good about myself Anti Higgins anytime touchdown,
Speaker 1: feeling really good about that. But kind of looking forward,
Speaker 1: we've seen two years in a row now a quarterback
Speaker 1: come into a new team, some big free agents joined
Speaker 1: the team, win a super Bowl right away at home.
Speaker 1: Is there a situation this year, not the at home part,
Speaker 1: but that you could see that happening. Is a veteran
Speaker 1: quarterback Aaron Rodgers comes to mind, Russell Wilson that you
Speaker 1: think can be one and done essentially and win a
Speaker 1: Super Bowl next year. Yeah, I would argue that that
Speaker 1: people probably would speculate that Denver's a destination place for
Speaker 1: Aaron Rodgers in terms of familiarity with the offense, and
Speaker 1: they have got incredible skill position players, their defense is
Speaker 1: really good, and maybe they add another free agent somewhere else.
Speaker 1: You know, maybe they signed Von millerback who knows, you know,
Speaker 1: Von's a free agent. I was just thinking that that
Speaker 1: would be the I think the logical next step in
Speaker 1: terms of if you're trying to match those types of things,
Speaker 1: you know, can lightning strike three times? Where you get
Speaker 1: a new quarterback and there has to be a special quarterback,
Speaker 1: right Matthew Stafford clearly was special in Detroit. Never got
Speaker 1: the opportunity because I just didn't have the team around him.
Speaker 1: You put him with a team that it was as
Speaker 1: talented as as the Los Angeles Rams, and boy, you know,
Speaker 1: he takes off and wins him a championship in his
Speaker 1: first year. So incredible that that would probably be the
Speaker 1: best landing spot I could see in Denver with their
Speaker 1: new head coach and their quarterback coaches in no offensive
Speaker 1: coordinator who who worked with with Aaron. I just don't
Speaker 1: think that the Green Bay Packers ultimately are gonna I
Speaker 1: mean that they're the ones that make the decision there.
Speaker 1: I just don't think they're gonna get an offer that's
Speaker 1: gonna be big enough for them to compensate for that.
Speaker 1: All right, let's go to the position you know the
Speaker 1: most about. With the exception of Mac Jones, this year
Speaker 1: rookie quarterbacks really seemed to struggle. Which one of them
Speaker 1: do you think will take the next step this coming season? Oh?
Speaker 1: I thought since you were a comedian, you would go
Speaker 1: like team doctor, you know, because of my pill pop
Speaker 1: it is. But all right, yeah, I'm pretty familiar with
Speaker 1: the quarterback position. To um. Yeah, I loved, loved what
Speaker 1: Matt Jones brought to the table, was incredible in his
Speaker 1: first year. Was the best rookie quarterback this season. I
Speaker 1: thought Davis Mills came in a close second. I really did.
Speaker 1: I thought Trevor Lawrence improved quite a bit down the stretch.
Speaker 1: So we'll see what Trey Lands brings to the table.
Speaker 1: Because you guys do know, like the betting odds on
Speaker 1: Tom Brady being the m v P next year is
Speaker 1: like still pretty high. That's San Francisco forty Niners situation
Speaker 1: right now is just lingering, lingering in his hometown, Uh,
Speaker 1: you know, his favorite team growing up. I mean, it's
Speaker 1: just it's there. I don't buy it. I don't buy
Speaker 1: into it, I think as much as anybody else does.
Speaker 1: But we'll see. Tray Lance is a big part of that,
Speaker 1: justin fields in Chicagolan. Then you know, with the new
Speaker 1: rookies coming in this year, who's gonna replace Ben Roethlisberger,
Speaker 1: Who's gonna replace Tom Brady? You know, who ultimately is
Speaker 1: going to replace Drew Brees in New Orleans. I mean,
Speaker 1: there's so many great opportunities at the quarterback position. What
Speaker 1: we do know is that the a f C is
Speaker 1: solidified with five great guys that are gonna be, you know,
Speaker 1: battling back and forth for an an f C championship
Speaker 1: for the next decade. Well, let's talk about that. The
Speaker 1: draft coming up in April, which quarterbacks and pressy the
Speaker 1: most because everyone's kind of poop pooing this quarterback class. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I mean I expect now that the season is over
Speaker 1: and scouts and teams can do deeper dives, and teams
Speaker 1: are gonna be looking and dealing with fomo fear that
Speaker 1: missing out on the guy that they need, that they're
Speaker 1: gonna be a couple of guys that start to really
Speaker 1: kind of crawl up the the draft board. I really
Speaker 1: do believe that. I think Matt corral his I think
Speaker 1: he not having a chance to work out at the
Speaker 1: Senior Bowl had a big impact. When he's ready to
Speaker 1: have his pro day, I think he's gonna impress a
Speaker 1: lot of people. It's a little bit undersized, but his
Speaker 1: incredibly athletic, has a great arm, is smart, has been
Speaker 1: well coached by Lane Kiffin, has overcome a ton adversity
Speaker 1: and and everything that he's gone through. I like him
Speaker 1: a ton. I like Carson Strong out of Nevada, big, physical,
Speaker 1: strong on quarterback. He did not perform well at the
Speaker 1: Senior Bowl. He seemed overwhelmed, had difficulty call in plays.
Speaker 1: So that may set him back a little bit and
Speaker 1: a team may be able to get a steal in
Speaker 1: a later round, but I like him a lot. Leek
Speaker 1: Willis is another guy. Kenny Pickett Pittsburgh Steelers got to
Speaker 1: see him firsthand right there in their own stadium for
Speaker 1: a bunch of years. He had one of those most
Speaker 1: prolific seasons at quarterback for the Pittsburgh team this year.
Speaker 1: And you know it wouldn't surprise me if he if
Speaker 1: he's in a position where the Steelers are drafting, if
Speaker 1: they don't stay home grown and try to find the
Speaker 1: replacement for Ben Roethlisberger. Jimmy Garoppolo is also an option
Speaker 1: there to Matt Canada and him I think would be incredible.
Speaker 1: Mike McDaniel down in Miami and Jimmy Garoppolo are are
Speaker 1: of course a fit if he doesn't feel like to
Speaker 1: a far and away is the guy and wants a
Speaker 1: little competition from a veteran who's got a lot a
Speaker 1: lot of experience playing that position in big time games.
Speaker 1: So it's gonna be a fun off season like it
Speaker 1: is always. Everybody will get ramped up and there will
Speaker 1: be a quarterback or two that jump up the board
Speaker 1: because general managers are just fearful of missing out on
Speaker 1: the next guy. Right, don't forget Roethlisberger, Mahomes, all those
Speaker 1: guys went right around ten, Josh Allen eleven twelve. That's
Speaker 1: where that some of these guys who have made the
Speaker 1: most impact were drafted. And if there's a quarterback available
Speaker 1: and a team thinks that they got to move up
Speaker 1: to the site ten or or or so like that
Speaker 1: to get their guy, they'll do it. You mentioned Kenny
Speaker 1: Pickett maybe staying in the same stadium but also the
Speaker 1: same practice facility. I don't know if you've done a
Speaker 1: pit game recently, but I I didn't remember James Conner
Speaker 1: they would say, even though he played a pitt and
Speaker 1: the Steelers, he would go across to the pit side
Speaker 1: because he liked their coffee machine better. And then I mean,
Speaker 1: your honest, it's the same facility, but there's two parking lots.
Speaker 1: You can very much tell the difference when you look
Speaker 1: at the cars in the parking lot which one is which.
Speaker 1: But that's such a unique situation. It is a unique situation.
Speaker 1: It's rare, right, playing a professional stadium, you know, with
Speaker 1: facilities and everything like that. I mean, good for pit
Speaker 1: paton Ardoozy and and what their future holds, especially the
Speaker 1: new Arms race. Right, you can say you're, you know,
Speaker 1: hand in hand with a professional football team. That's gonna
Speaker 1: be helpful in your recruiting process, Right, I never heard
Speaker 1: that about Tom Brady. Yeah, I mean, you know, maybe
Speaker 1: that was why he had such a halfhearted retirement. He
Speaker 1: was just kind of saying, hey, I'm I'm done over here,
Speaker 1: but I'm still I mean, you know, he looks great,
Speaker 1: He's still got more football in him, and you know
Speaker 1: he's gonna get bored just sitting around watching Netflix with Giselle.
Speaker 1: I think he I think he will follow in the
Speaker 1: footsteps of the Manning brothers. You know, they understand building
Speaker 1: content and we saw that ramp up a ton for
Speaker 1: Tom Brady over the last two years being in Tampa,
Speaker 1: outside the bubble of New England. So the reason why
Speaker 1: I don't think he'll come back is because he understands
Speaker 1: the calendar of the NFL in that I mean, what
Speaker 1: it takes. He's not a guy that has the same
Speaker 1: talent as let's say Brett Farve, who could just go
Speaker 1: away and then make a decision right before the season
Speaker 1: starts to I'm coming back. Tom Brady has a calendar
Speaker 1: that he goes through and what the preparation looks like
Speaker 1: to make him ready and make him the most efficient
Speaker 1: quarterback he can be each year. So if he takes
Speaker 1: away more time than he normally does, and he can't
Speaker 1: be at his best, as most optimal. He's not going
Speaker 1: to come back and do it. He's not gonna do
Speaker 1: this halfheartedly. And he really commented on about you know,
Speaker 1: it's not the I don't think I can do it
Speaker 1: at a very high level. I just have different priorities now.
Speaker 1: My family is at the forefront, and the things I
Speaker 1: want to do in the business side of it is
Speaker 1: something that I gotta think of. So unless we see
Speaker 1: something pretty quickly right around the free agent signing period
Speaker 1: and stuff like that, I believe wholeheartedly that he has
Speaker 1: done and we've seen the greatest of all time. Call
Speaker 1: it quits. M all right. I like that opinion. But
Speaker 1: I gotta say, all three of us are married, and
Speaker 1: we also know the commitment it requires to be home
Speaker 1: when you're married. I mean that takes a lot too.
Speaker 1: So you know, I'm a purple belt in the marital arts.
Speaker 1: It takes a lot of training. So sometimes it's nice
Speaker 1: to be away on the road. I'm just saying, you know,
Speaker 1: they're both hard, That's all I'm saying. Oh it's incredible, Yeah,
Speaker 1: especially when you got a four year old who's still
Speaker 1: continue who We're still trying to stop, you know, you know,
Speaker 1: pooping in his pants. Right, we gotta it's it's it's
Speaker 1: it's all hands on deck right now here in the
Speaker 1: leaf household. Yeah, I got a sixteen month old. I know,
Speaker 1: we all got Yeah, Olivia, just get just get ready.
Speaker 1: You know, she's got a bun in the oven. She's
Speaker 1: carrying around a six ft nine my boy. Olivia was
Speaker 1: at birth two. Yeah, he was born in his amniotic sack.
Speaker 1: And it's like one out of every twenty thousand does
Speaker 1: it happen. It means good luck. So he was. He
Speaker 1: was really compact, and it made it for an easy,
Speaker 1: easier delivery. I should never say the word easy when
Speaker 1: I'm talking about livery. Women are amazing. You are amazing.
Speaker 1: You are amazing women. But when they cut him out
Speaker 1: of his amniotic sack, his arms just went and he
Speaker 1: was just like this. It was like the Hulk watching
Speaker 1: it all happen, and I'm just like, oh my god,
Speaker 1: oh my god. Your wife must have been huge at
Speaker 1: the end of her pregnancy. There's a picture with me
Speaker 1: and her and Roger Goodell like we're at a game,
Speaker 1: and we both looked at the picture of the day.
Speaker 1: We just you don't realize it in the moment, but
Speaker 1: I looked at picture just like, oh my, look how
Speaker 1: big your belly was. He's just he was two weeks
Speaker 1: late too, So I mean, it's it's two weeks late.
Speaker 1: Oh good God. Yeah, my my husband. They say when
Speaker 1: they put him out as a baby on that measuring
Speaker 1: thing that the nurses all just started laughing. I don't
Speaker 1: know how like the exact centimeters or anything, but they
Speaker 1: said they've just never seen a baby so long. So
Speaker 1: I've I've got my work cut out for me. Okay, Ryan,
Speaker 1: My last question completely not football or baby related. I
Speaker 1: know you're from Montana. Do you watch Yellowstone? I do?
Speaker 1: I do watch Yellostone? So what do you think of
Speaker 1: everyone now just realizing how amazing Montana is and so
Speaker 1: many people are moving there. Yeah, we've been kind of
Speaker 1: watching the influx of people over the years come in
Speaker 1: and realize, well, yeah, you know, I learned pretty quickly
Speaker 1: growing up. It's the most beautiful setting in our country,
Speaker 1: I believe. Yeah, we just just went over a million people.
Speaker 1: Were the fourth largest state in the Union outside of
Speaker 1: California Alaska, in Texas, and there's a lot of space,
Speaker 1: a lot of space. The TV show, of course, is gorgeous,
Speaker 1: and how it film, the cinematography and everything like that.
Speaker 1: The storyline, you know, it doesn't paint Montana's very well.
Speaker 1: I guarantee you theod it doesn't remind me of any
Speaker 1: of my child I will say that, you know, the
Speaker 1: degregation of the Native American is spot on and has
Speaker 1: to change. And I love the fact that they're they're
Speaker 1: pointing a spotlight on that. I've watched it my whole
Speaker 1: entire life, visiting reservations while while I grew up there.
Speaker 1: Montana has you know, two of the best national parks
Speaker 1: in the country, and Yellowstone National Park in Glacier National
Speaker 1: Park a kind of top end of Montana the bottom end,
Speaker 1: and so it's an entertaining show. Loved me some. Kevin Costner,
Speaker 1: my brother just auditioned for it recently, so hopefully he'll
Speaker 1: get it. He always he looks like a rugged casey,
Speaker 1: but he also you know, he puts it on and
Speaker 1: he's able to put it on his his bio, his resume, right,
Speaker 1: he can ride horses. We grew up on a cattle
Speaker 1: ranch and my grandfather ran, so you know he's got
Speaker 1: that inform like he can ride horses with the best
Speaker 1: of them, that that'll get you on that show in
Speaker 1: a hurry. Oh for sure. I know that was a
Speaker 1: total twist, but I had to ask, it's like my
Speaker 1: favorite show. I had to ask, why is it your
Speaker 1: favorite show? Well? I like season one the best. It's
Speaker 1: gone downhill. They've switched production companies, I believe, and it's
Speaker 1: gotten a little like music video Isha, Do you agree,
Speaker 1: Like now there's like long scenes that are they're selling products,
Speaker 1: the selling products they give, you know, I understand. I
Speaker 1: understand that. Yeah, I like Rip. He reminds me a
Speaker 1: lot of some of the cowboys my grandpa's ranch when
Speaker 1: I was growing up, you know, some of the hired
Speaker 1: hands and things like that. So it's it's interesting. Cowboy
Speaker 1: cultures is crazy. I think it's stimies people a lot
Speaker 1: of the time, not to showcase any weaknesses and things
Speaker 1: like that. So and then I can't get over the
Speaker 1: young hand that gets sent down to Texas. That dude
Speaker 1: just just absolutely rolls rolls out of bed and falls
Speaker 1: down and bumps his head against beautiful women. Like it,
Speaker 1: What the hell is going on here? I mean that
Speaker 1: that's that for sure is not a real thing that
Speaker 1: happens in Montown. I can tell you that much. I
Speaker 1: wouldn't think so. Yeah, Jimmy's storyline was a little far fetched.
Speaker 1: Just rides into like like manure piles and comes out
Speaker 1: the other end with beautiful women. Yeah. I can't get
Speaker 1: enough of old Jimmy. Yeah it is his his face
Speaker 1: leaves something to be desired, but his line up there
Speaker 1: isn't too bad. Oh, this is fun, Ryan. I really
Speaker 1: appreciate you coming on you bet, thanks for having me guys.
Speaker 1: Always good to see you, Olivia and the best of luck.
Speaker 1: Ryan is a great name for a boy. Just putting
Speaker 1: that out there. Okay, remember that Peter Andrew, Peter Andrew,
Speaker 1: Peter Andrew a man of many talents. Drinking spicy mango
Speaker 1: margharitas is just one of them. We are so glad
Speaker 1: to see you here virtually, but we had way more
Speaker 1: fun with you in person in l A. That was
Speaker 1: a lot of fun, Jannice. What do you think our
Speaker 1: man Pee can throw down? I love me some Peter Andrew.
Speaker 1: It was good to finally see him from head to toe.
Speaker 1: He's a nice tall drink water, not hard on the eyes.
Speaker 1: He's a cute kid with good hair who knows how
Speaker 1: to throw back some Margharita's. It was damn good to
Speaker 1: see you, baby. Can we just clip that and just
Speaker 1: make sure pay back for my funeral, my wedding, my
Speaker 1: first baby. Yeah, that's your best man speech at your
Speaker 1: wedding right there. It was fun with having some time
Speaker 1: with you guys. Fortunately I left before the picture Margharita
Speaker 1: was done, or also things could have gotten a little
Speaker 1: bit crazy. Yes, I know you were a little upset.
Speaker 1: That's why you were drowning yourself at Margharita's because you
Speaker 1: did not get a picture with t O. Well we
Speaker 1: got a picture, but it looks like it looks like
Speaker 1: my dog took it. Yeah, not get the one you
Speaker 1: needed as a Niners fan. I mean, I'm sorry about that.
Speaker 1: What you can do is you can take the one
Speaker 1: with me and Olivian t O and you can photoshop
Speaker 1: out Olivia. You know, because you guys got the same
Speaker 1: build right now, You got the same body build. Yeah,
Speaker 1: you know, right now. Check my Instagram in about three
Speaker 1: hours because that's already in progress with our design team here.
Speaker 1: You guys, all three of us got a little bit
Speaker 1: of a baby bump. So you could just put your
Speaker 1: face on hers and just throw yourself in pick It's okay,
Speaker 1: three and sixty three days till the next Super Bowl,
Speaker 1: Arizona partner of bet MGM. We'll get it then. Don't
Speaker 1: worry that that's exciting. That's exciting. We're gonna do that
Speaker 1: big next year. I'm not going to be pregnant. I mean,
Speaker 1: this is gonna be a lot of fun. But no.
Speaker 1: It was a great week in l A. Our coverage
Speaker 1: of Pro Bowl and Super Bowl is still all up
Speaker 1: on bet MGM social media if you want to check out,
Speaker 1: well we were up to We had a ton of
Speaker 1: fun that t O episode. If you haven't listened to that,
Speaker 1: you guys, that was live, just go back to the
Speaker 1: episode right before this one and give that a listen.
Speaker 1: Because t O is a man of many opinions and characters.
Speaker 1: He is. He's unique, right, Yeah, t O loves him
Speaker 1: some t O. It was. It was amazing. It was
Speaker 1: amazing interview. He's an amazing, charismatic, funny guy and we
Speaker 1: had a great time with him and Olivia. I just
Speaker 1: want to say, don't say for sure you won't be pregnant.
Speaker 1: You could be pregnant. My man, Sammy, he shoots from three,
Speaker 1: He shoots from three. He's got a high percentage. He's
Speaker 1: a shooter. Shoot shot shoot. Dam's gonna want to clip
Speaker 1: that one little part and say that. Okay, but let's
Speaker 1: recap Super Bowl from a betting perspective, because I I'm
Speaker 1: feeling really good about myself. I'm kind of bummed NFL
Speaker 1: seasons over because my confidence is soaring. I took mangles
Speaker 1: to cover. Be honest, I told you for two weeks
Speaker 1: Bengals are going to keep this close, and they did.
Speaker 1: Rams win. Um a bunch of my props hit. But
Speaker 1: how did it play out for the sports book? Yeah,
Speaker 1: so last minute I decided to tease down to minus
Speaker 1: two and a half the Rams. Thank god I did
Speaker 1: because it was close, so I was lucky one there.
Speaker 1: Over All, the book did really well. If the Bengals
Speaker 1: would have won so outright money line and and or
Speaker 1: if the game would have went to overtime, a lot
Speaker 1: of the books, including US, massive liability against that, so
Speaker 1: we're able to get by that. The result was great.
Speaker 1: You know, a couple of unfortunate things happened that I
Speaker 1: think helps some folks. O. B J. Obviously, I think
Speaker 1: it would confirmed tor ac lu the under yards and
Speaker 1: that which is it's unfortunate, but that was a big
Speaker 1: liability for us, and Aaron Donalds MVP was a big liability.
Speaker 1: So I don't necessarily agree with the call that Cooper
Speaker 1: Cup got it. You can't knock them, but Aaron donald
Speaker 1: was a monster of that game. But that in our
Speaker 1: favorite kitting uh MVP for Cup. So, looking at NFL
Speaker 1: futures which are already out, Bills and Chiefs are the
Speaker 1: favorites to win the Super Bowl next year. We were
Speaker 1: just talking with Ryan who thinks that the Rams can
Speaker 1: put together another Super Bowl run, that they're so stacked.
Speaker 1: We know they don't have draft picks, but they still
Speaker 1: have a couple of these big free agent signings for
Speaker 1: a couple of years. Do you like the Rams already?
Speaker 1: I mean, is it way too early to be talking
Speaker 1: about this? You know, I think it's too early for
Speaker 1: some of the favorites. I think these are the opportunities
Speaker 1: and I think, I said the Slasher, these are the
Speaker 1: opportunities where you cherry pick some people who are maybe
Speaker 1: against the odds right now. So I look at a
Speaker 1: Ravens at plus two thousand, something like that is something
Speaker 1: appetizing right now because you never know what could happen
Speaker 1: over the course of the next six months, a big move,
Speaker 1: something to get them kind of pushed to the top.
Speaker 1: But when it comes to the Rams, I mean, they
Speaker 1: have everything it takes to to repeat. I think there's
Speaker 1: a couple open end questions. Whitworth likely retiring, so you
Speaker 1: have to address your tackle position again, doing it without
Speaker 1: draft picks a little bit. Captain Straint Donald Aaron Donald.
Speaker 1: They keep saying there's a chance that he retires on top.
Speaker 1: I personally think he maybe stays an extra year or two.
Speaker 1: I mean, he's still probably the best defensive tackle I've
Speaker 1: ever seen, and he's still at such a high level
Speaker 1: as he saw on Sunday. But they have a lot
Speaker 1: of the tools to healthy. Cam Akers Stafford for a
Speaker 1: couple of years, probably the best wider saving the league,
Speaker 1: Cooper Cup, Jalen Ramsey. I mean, the list goes on.
Speaker 1: They are a legitimate threat for at least the next
Speaker 1: two to probably three years. What does an A c
Speaker 1: L T do for O b J And what's his
Speaker 1: contract look like and what's that situation look like next
Speaker 1: year for O b J. Yeah, poor guy I think
Speaker 1: this is the second time he's torn an a c
Speaker 1: l or had a significant injury. I believe he only
Speaker 1: signed a one year deal for the Rams, so this
Speaker 1: this is tough for him. I mean, he's gonna have
Speaker 1: to come back and prove himself. He's probably gonna have
Speaker 1: to put him himself on another cheap one year deal
Speaker 1: that's very bonus driven, and then work his way up
Speaker 1: to another contract. But you know, as you guys know,
Speaker 1: the shelf life for a wide receiver of running back
Speaker 1: in the NFL is only four or five years anyway,
Speaker 1: So it's gonna be really tough. And I feel for him,
Speaker 1: and I saw I think you saw a different side
Speaker 1: of him. I'm a New Yorker here, so I saw
Speaker 1: the Giants drama, if you will, But you saw the
Speaker 1: type of person he's kind of matured to be, whether
Speaker 1: it's yeah, visibly upset after the win. I think what
Speaker 1: he did with Deebo Samuel after the NFC Championship where
Speaker 1: he went up to him first before anything. So he's
Speaker 1: a matured guy. So I think a lot of people
Speaker 1: are rooting for him switching over to NBA because now
Speaker 1: a lot of our talk is going to switch to
Speaker 1: March Madness n b A, and we kick off with
Speaker 1: All Star this weekend, and it's always so much fun
Speaker 1: to watch. I personally much prefer Saturday All Star Skills Competition,
Speaker 1: three point competition, everything dunk contest, but the actual game
Speaker 1: is Sunday. What as of now again, we record Tuesday.
Speaker 1: What does bet MGM have available right now? Yeah, so
Speaker 1: a little bit of a new format this year is
Speaker 1: most people know. So we're in the process of getting
Speaker 1: everything approved by all of our state regulators as of
Speaker 1: right now confirmed. Obviously, we will have the All Star
Speaker 1: Game on Sunday, and then we're getting odds as we
Speaker 1: speak for three point so you're seeing guys like Patty Mills,
Speaker 1: Luke Caannard, Zach Lavine kind of leading the charge in
Speaker 1: terms of three point contest. Personally, Patty Mills one that
Speaker 1: strikes me as a as a big time favorite. I
Speaker 1: think he's highest three point percentage out of anybody playing,
Speaker 1: and I think Luke Nard just shortly behind him. Both
Speaker 1: those guys around the plus six fifty plus five fifty range,
Speaker 1: so that gets here sixty bucks not too shabby, and
Speaker 1: those guys are legit threats shooting, so it's all about
Speaker 1: who catches fire and and it's a fun event. So
Speaker 1: I do think they take it seriously, and I think
Speaker 1: probably more seriously than than Sundays Allstar Game. I am
Speaker 1: pumped for hoops. I am a failed Division one basketball player.
Speaker 1: I'm off. I'm a walk on that did not make
Speaker 1: the team on a low D one squad at American
Speaker 1: But I tell you what. I got my MBA League
Speaker 1: pass and I am psyched. And you could just tell
Speaker 1: me haul that my expense for the NBA League pass
Speaker 1: in the male bet MGMs pay for it. I need
Speaker 1: a new computer and I need Nicks tickets. Well, lucky
Speaker 1: for you, having lead passed, you get to see my
Speaker 1: Charlotte Hornets now a little bit more often with their big,
Speaker 1: big edition of Montres Harrold. So the out of well, well, well, well,
Speaker 1: why are the Hornets your team? I've never heard you
Speaker 1: say this. Oh boy, this is you know. I have
Speaker 1: some ridiculous stories as sports fans here huge. I hated
Speaker 1: the interesting life of Peter Andrew. I mean, Peter and
Speaker 1: You had a couple of kids in North Carolina. We
Speaker 1: don't know about um. You guys heard some stories that
Speaker 1: are not suitable for Radio the other day. But I
Speaker 1: hated the Knicks growing up. I despised the team for
Speaker 1: whatever reason, and I was a huge Gonzaga basketball fan.
Speaker 1: So I loved Adam Morrison. I basically told myself, I
Speaker 1: was like, wherever this guy goes, whether it's to the
Speaker 1: Knicks or to the Lakers or whoever, it was like,
Speaker 1: I'm following him third overall two thousand four. I think
Speaker 1: it was Charlotte Bobcats. So I just popped. Okay, that
Speaker 1: is probably one of the mo pathetic reasons I've ever
Speaker 1: heard anyone say they became a fan of a team.
Speaker 1: Adam Morrison, that's the reason why you became a fan
Speaker 1: of the NBA. I mean here, look, I wish I
Speaker 1: could say Adam Morrison had a drug problem because he
Speaker 1: was the bust. He was just a bust. Can you
Speaker 1: addressed him as NBA champion? Okay, yeah, yeah, I forgot
Speaker 1: about that. Yeah, I forgot about that. He did ride
Speaker 1: the pine pony in l A with that nice brown
Speaker 1: jacket that he wore during the entire NBA Finals. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I mean, yeah, it's it's par for the course for me.
Speaker 1: I got some crazy stories of these teams. I followed.
Speaker 1: But but I've been loyal to them since, gotten a
Speaker 1: chance to meet Camba and a couple of the players.
Speaker 1: Camba was on the Hornet, so yeah, I ride with him,
Speaker 1: all right, because he's Adam Morrison. That's I'll never hear
Speaker 1: that again. I've never heard that before, and I've never
Speaker 1: heard that again, that somebody's team became their team because
Speaker 1: of Adam Morrison. You are a loyal You are a
Speaker 1: loyal fan to whomever you like. I'll tell you that
Speaker 1: right now. Talk about something clip worthy. If I'm ever
Speaker 1: looking for a job with the Hornets, I'll just I'll
Speaker 1: take a little smike that seriously, all right, Pete, Well,
Speaker 1: we wish every week we were in person like last week.
Speaker 1: But thanks for joining us again. And next week we'll
Speaker 1: get even further into the NBA. As we recap, i'll
Speaker 1: start break. Thanks so much, Thanks you guys, peace, Pete. Okay,
Speaker 1: that was such a fun show. Thanks again to Ryan
Speaker 1: Leaf for joining us. His story is just incredible. Make
Speaker 1: sure you follow him on Twitter at Ryan D. Leaf.
Speaker 1: Thanks as always Peter Andrew for joining us, and make
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