WEBVTT - Leave it to Cleveland 0:00:01.920 --> 0:00:05.200 You're listening to Winnie on reparations correction of I Heart Radio. 0:00:06.200 --> 0:00:15.960 Yeah yeah, yeah, waiting the reparations, Waiting the reparations check check. 0:00:17.040 --> 0:00:18.639 I was know when no one gave a funk about 0:00:18.640 --> 0:00:20.599 my black life back when he was playing Half Life. 0:00:20.720 --> 0:00:22.800 A baby in a well was the way I baptized 0:00:22.840 --> 0:00:24.880 a starboar, I felt, but it made me mad Nights 0:00:24.920 --> 0:00:27.880 true story. Move forward your cruise, Corny and I'm too sorry. 0:00:27.960 --> 0:00:30.680 Plus I leave a tune glory. I'm the new vote's boy. Please, 0:00:30.680 --> 0:00:32.680 ain't afraid of know harm? What the fun they're gonna do? 0:00:32.760 --> 0:00:35.200 Shoot me while I'm an armed ship. I'm the knife Homi. 0:00:35.320 --> 0:00:36.919 I don't need a burner, but you better know him. 0:00:36.960 --> 0:00:38.720 Somebody like I'm need to turner and I hit you 0:00:38.760 --> 0:00:40.479 with that dope flow you ain't even heard of. You 0:00:40.560 --> 0:00:43.080 gotta wrapper stunt looking like they see the murder. Oh, 0:00:43.240 --> 0:00:46.120 let's put it all in perspective. All you'll enjoyment of pod. 0:00:46.200 --> 0:00:48.280 Y'all can mess with you know they don't even listen 0:00:48.280 --> 0:00:51.440 forever hating Mariah what we're doing. We're waiting the reparations? 0:00:52.680 --> 0:00:59.400 Yeah yeah, ay, what is he? I'm dope lingu Frank 0:00:59.800 --> 0:01:03.440 We are waiting on reparations. I'm waiting on this cold 0:01:03.440 --> 0:01:05.200 to be over, because you know, I've been sticking ship 0:01:05.400 --> 0:01:09.560 for like seven days almost. It's been terrible, sounding like 0:01:09.600 --> 0:01:12.880 berry white and ship you feeling better, It's not like 0:01:12.920 --> 0:01:15.920 prip keeper this bitch. Now I'm feeling better. Today is 0:01:15.959 --> 0:01:18.160 the best day I've had yet. I mean, I'm still 0:01:18.200 --> 0:01:21.240 not a dent, but I was like out, I was 0:01:21.520 --> 0:01:27.560 down for the count that was like fully sick, like fever, fatigue, 0:01:27.640 --> 0:01:30.640 sleeping like twelve hours a day. And then I got 0:01:30.680 --> 0:01:34.880 a COVID test zero COVID or supposedly the negative negative result. 0:01:35.200 --> 0:01:39.200 But I have never this profoundly while sick before lost 0:01:39.240 --> 0:01:43.520 my sense of taste and smell. I can't any anything. 0:01:43.600 --> 0:01:46.559 I mean, I mean, I don't know anything. I've never 0:01:46.720 --> 0:01:49.320 I don't haven't experienced the COVID lost the taste and smell. 0:01:49.360 --> 0:01:51.120 But I've gotten sick to the point where I lost 0:01:51.160 --> 0:01:53.840 like my sense of like taste before. So I've had 0:01:53.840 --> 0:01:55.960 that like vaguely before. And I don't know if it's 0:01:55.960 --> 0:01:59.800 like psychological, where like I know that's like a symptom 0:01:59.800 --> 0:02:01.800 of of it, and so like it's freaking me out, 0:02:01.840 --> 0:02:04.080 and so I'm like perceiving it. I think that could 0:02:04.080 --> 0:02:06.920 be more than it is. But it's like it's it's 0:02:06.960 --> 0:02:10.200 really freaking me out, man, where I like, I'm it's 0:02:10.240 --> 0:02:13.360 like I'm not hungry, but I eat ravenously because I 0:02:13.480 --> 0:02:17.040 like miss tasting stuff so bad. I'm just like so sad, 0:02:17.320 --> 0:02:18.840 like trying a little bit of this, trying a little 0:02:18.840 --> 0:02:20.519 bit of that, trying to live in this on my place. 0:02:20.600 --> 0:02:24.639 Something tastes like anything. I'm gonna knock on wood because 0:02:24.960 --> 0:02:28.440 I am not. Like everybody. Everybody in Savannah is sick 0:02:28.520 --> 0:02:32.160 right now, like literally everybody's got delta. It's just it's 0:02:32.200 --> 0:02:36.359 sucking crazy, like everybody's sick like mad. Businesses are closed 0:02:36.680 --> 0:02:40.000 not because not because of any mandate, but just literally 0:02:40.000 --> 0:02:41.960 because like, oh, no one can come in to work today. 0:02:42.000 --> 0:02:44.720 It's that sort of ship going on. And I'm lucky 0:02:44.760 --> 0:02:47.359 because like I'm feeling tip top, you know what I mean. 0:02:47.400 --> 0:02:49.080 And I haven't been going out for like the last 0:02:49.080 --> 0:02:51.080 three weeks or so. I've just been living in the 0:02:51.120 --> 0:02:54.079 studio and working on the show and stuff like that. 0:02:54.320 --> 0:02:58.840 But you know, hopefully, hopefully this this thing can subside. 0:02:59.000 --> 0:03:02.720 Go out and get vaccinated, a job, be safe, fascinated. 0:03:02.960 --> 0:03:05.600 Just go do it, you know, it's so easy. And 0:03:05.880 --> 0:03:08.240 you know here last week we passed a new mass 0:03:08.240 --> 0:03:11.480 mandate for here in Athens. I know Savannah has passed 0:03:11.520 --> 0:03:16.160 one a couple of weeks ago. It hasn't affected. I mean, 0:03:16.600 --> 0:03:19.679 it hasn't really affected. How you know, people have been 0:03:20.040 --> 0:03:22.840 I guess people don't give not for the most part, 0:03:22.919 --> 0:03:25.679 I guess not. I mean that show. By the time 0:03:25.760 --> 0:03:29.800 y'all hear this, I will probably be recovering from the 0:03:29.840 --> 0:03:34.160 show with that Forroman on Wednesday. But that ship, no 0:03:34.200 --> 0:03:36.520 one has said anything to us about anything for that, 0:03:36.640 --> 0:03:39.040 you know what I mean. I know it's a it's 0:03:39.040 --> 0:03:41.240 a pretty big stage. So I'm not really gonna be 0:03:41.280 --> 0:03:43.680 like up on people and ship, and they're not really 0:03:43.680 --> 0:03:46.200 going to be you know what I mean. So there's that, 0:03:46.360 --> 0:03:50.240 But yeah, it hasn't Besides, for people are kind of 0:03:50.280 --> 0:03:53.240 just waiting until they get sick before they think it seriously. 0:03:53.360 --> 0:03:57.440 And that's unfortunately, it's what got us where we are now. Unfortunately, 0:03:57.560 --> 0:04:03.440 we also on Tuesday mandated vaccines for all um County employees. Word, 0:04:03.520 --> 0:04:06.440 how how are the how are the Repubs taking that 0:04:06.560 --> 0:04:09.160 up there? Oh my god? Well, the thing is so 0:04:09.280 --> 0:04:12.520 that's at the commission meeting, the Republicans showed out to 0:04:12.640 --> 0:04:15.640 just like spew two hours of hatred about how much 0:04:15.640 --> 0:04:17.839 they hate the homeless, because we had something benefiting the 0:04:17.839 --> 0:04:20.200 homeless on our agenda as well. But we had two 0:04:20.640 --> 0:04:23.320 County employees come up and speak on the mic um 0:04:23.360 --> 0:04:25.240 talking about how they would quit their jobs if we 0:04:25.320 --> 0:04:27.920 passed this vaccine mandate, which isn't even a minute. It's like, 0:04:28.000 --> 0:04:29.720 if you don't get vaccinated, you just have to get 0:04:29.760 --> 0:04:32.200 tested every week. It's not like you lose your job 0:04:32.240 --> 0:04:34.480 if you don't get like, if you're so adamant, I'm 0:04:34.480 --> 0:04:37.280 not gonna get the vaccine here, you gotta get a 0:04:37.320 --> 0:04:39.719 test every week. That's it. That's all we were voting on, 0:04:39.839 --> 0:04:41.960 all we approved for. These people came up and said, 0:04:42.000 --> 0:04:44.920 I'm quitting my job if you all approve it tonight. 0:04:45.000 --> 0:04:47.400 And then the fucking Republicans and the audience, all fifty 0:04:47.400 --> 0:04:51.240 of them, were like plaiding and cheering, and it was 0:04:51.279 --> 0:04:53.400 so it was so obnoxious, and I was up there 0:04:53.400 --> 0:04:56.240 sick as hell, having a fucking fever, just like kill 0:04:56.320 --> 0:04:59.920 me please. That I'm wondering, right, is like is there 0:05:00.080 --> 0:05:06.480 opposition now? Just two vaccines in general, or are they 0:05:06.560 --> 0:05:10.119 do they not like the COVID vaccine in particular, because 0:05:10.160 --> 0:05:14.800 it's like, y'all motherfucker's are all vaccinated for something? Yeah, 0:05:14.839 --> 0:05:18.640 you know what I mean absolutely, if you made in 0:05:18.720 --> 0:05:21.560 the public school system, yeah you have exactly like you 0:05:21.720 --> 0:05:25.359 if you traveled overseas, if you fucking if you're in 0:05:25.360 --> 0:05:27.279 the army. I mean, like you remember a couple of 0:05:27.279 --> 0:05:29.719 months ago when they were complaining because the army was 0:05:29.760 --> 0:05:32.480 making them get COVID vaccines. It's like, yo, there's like 0:05:33.480 --> 0:05:36.320 a hundred other vaccines that you have to have to 0:05:36.400 --> 0:05:39.719 be in the military and ship, so like yeah, what 0:05:40.400 --> 0:05:43.159 so it was it was sorry, And I think that 0:05:43.320 --> 0:05:46.200 is an actually a very interesting question, maybe worth diving 0:05:46.200 --> 0:05:48.680 into more deeply in the future episode, because I do 0:05:48.800 --> 0:05:52.760 think it is raising skepticism about vaccines general. It's like 0:05:52.800 --> 0:05:56.040 it's opening this portal to the dark underworld of like 0:05:56.120 --> 0:06:01.440 anti vaccine like culture. More oddly, people are like starting 0:06:01.480 --> 0:06:03.600 off just oh well, I don't like how it was 0:06:03.640 --> 0:06:05.920 approved so quickly, you know, and then like falling down 0:06:05.960 --> 0:06:09.640 the rabbit hole into like, oh all science general, Yeah, 0:06:09.680 --> 0:06:13.920 that general conspiracy contrarianship, you know what, you know, he 0:06:14.200 --> 0:06:16.800 knew who would be killing it right now. I don't 0:06:16.839 --> 0:06:19.080 even know if he's alive or dead or what. But 0:06:19.200 --> 0:06:22.280 do you know who David Iike is? No, who's that 0:06:22.360 --> 0:06:26.440 he's He's like this British dude who was like sports 0:06:26.480 --> 0:06:29.040 anchor and then one day he just quit his job 0:06:29.279 --> 0:06:31.240 and was like, yeo, I got an epiphany that the 0:06:31.279 --> 0:06:33.800 world was run by lizard people and that all the 0:06:34.360 --> 0:06:36.560 he's the guy who invented the lizard people or like 0:06:36.680 --> 0:06:40.760 popularized the lizard people. Yeah, but I would I'm just 0:06:41.080 --> 0:06:43.240 remember like back in two thousand and twelve, he was 0:06:43.400 --> 0:06:47.719 really big on the internet, and now I'm like, where 0:06:47.760 --> 0:06:50.080 the hell is he with all of those because you 0:06:50.080 --> 0:06:53.520 would imagine he would be killing it right now without 0:06:53.560 --> 0:07:00.480 the queueing. But we digress. Please get vaccinated. Do wear 0:07:00.560 --> 0:07:02.600 a mask? It took me a little It took me 0:07:02.640 --> 0:07:05.160 a little bit to like transition back into like mask 0:07:05.240 --> 0:07:10.120 wearing and Kroger or whatever, but like it so and 0:07:10.160 --> 0:07:12.400 then it took me like two times three times in 0:07:12.640 --> 0:07:14.680 my house to get back used to it. And I 0:07:14.760 --> 0:07:19.040 don't mind. There's really way way worse things than than 0:07:19.200 --> 0:07:23.360 sucking masks. YEA, Let's let's be easy, like so you know, 0:07:23.440 --> 0:07:25.600 people have gone back to not wearing masks if they're 0:07:25.640 --> 0:07:29.200 vaccinated and shipped myself included. And I mean that also 0:07:29.320 --> 0:07:32.200 kept so many people from getting regular sick this whole time. 0:07:32.280 --> 0:07:35.920 I haven't been regular sick this whole time, Like I 0:07:35.920 --> 0:07:38.120 don't know, I don't know anyone that's had like a 0:07:38.120 --> 0:07:41.280 regular cold because we've been socially sitting a mask. And 0:07:41.400 --> 0:07:43.480 if I do you think that, you think that's kind 0:07:43.480 --> 0:07:46.200 of it. Like it was like, yeah, I was in 0:07:46.280 --> 0:07:49.920 like a meeting with like some activists and a commissioner 0:07:49.960 --> 0:07:52.200 at a bar and we were all just hanging out indoors. 0:07:53.200 --> 0:07:55.560 One of them had a cold, but was like, oh, 0:07:55.640 --> 0:07:58.680 you know, I'm feeling fine and I wasn't wearing a 0:07:58.720 --> 0:08:01.720 mask and boo. Now I'm saying so like literally like 0:08:01.800 --> 0:08:04.080 it's like, Okay, if I had, like I just been 0:08:04.120 --> 0:08:06.880 wearing a mask this whole time and not been laid 0:08:06.960 --> 0:08:08.800 up in bed with whatever the ship is for the 0:08:08.880 --> 0:08:11.200 last seven days, that I would accept that right off. Yeah, 0:08:11.240 --> 0:08:13.920 I mean, it's it's not a big deal. It's doing Yeah, 0:08:13.960 --> 0:08:16.320 that's that's that's that's crazy because like when I think 0:08:16.320 --> 0:08:18.440 about it too, I mean there's been a couple of times, 0:08:18.520 --> 0:08:21.520 you know, like some of our recording schedule might have 0:08:21.600 --> 0:08:23.640 gotten hauled up. Sometimes it's been like, oh man, I 0:08:23.680 --> 0:08:25.640 don't really feel too good and I woke up this day. 0:08:25.880 --> 0:08:31.080 But I have not been full blown, multiple, multiple days 0:08:31.400 --> 0:08:36.160 sick since like twenty nineteen, you know, like it's always 0:08:36.280 --> 0:08:41.000 the implications of it are broader than saving people from COVID. So, 0:08:41.320 --> 0:08:43.600 but we're kind of jumping all over the place today. 0:08:45.520 --> 0:08:48.120 What what are we talking about today? Today? We've been 0:08:48.120 --> 0:08:51.160 talking about about Georgia Savannah blah blah blah. But we're 0:08:51.160 --> 0:08:55.120 gonna take a trip up to Ohio's eleventh congressional districts 0:08:55.480 --> 0:09:00.520 today to unpack the results of the special Mary election 0:09:00.679 --> 0:09:04.599 up there that just took place last Tuesday. Between it 0:09:04.760 --> 0:09:07.160 was like thirteen candidates running, but it was largely between 0:09:07.960 --> 0:09:13.160 Bernie Sanders campaign co chair from Turner um ko Yoga 0:09:13.880 --> 0:09:19.320 um County. Uh, let me start trying to look at 0:09:22.240 --> 0:09:28.680 kaya Hoga Kiahoga Kiahoga County council member Sean tal brown 0:09:29.280 --> 0:09:31.959 Um and in the facto fight between the left and 0:09:32.120 --> 0:09:34.560 center of the Democratic Party. So we're gonna talk about 0:09:34.960 --> 0:09:38.480 what the election results mean for progressives, and it's well 0:09:38.559 --> 0:09:41.880 discussed the musical landscape of this congressional district, which contains 0:09:41.960 --> 0:09:45.360 Akron and Cleveland. It's got some familiar faces like kid 0:09:45.480 --> 0:09:48.040 Cutty and Busy Bones. Are We're gonna get into some 0:09:48.240 --> 0:09:52.160 of its musical geography as well as its political geography today. 0:09:52.760 --> 0:09:57.760 We'll be right back with that after the jump jump 0:10:01.840 --> 0:10:06.240 all right, So now you might be asking, if you 0:10:06.360 --> 0:10:09.800 don't know already, where did this race take place. Well, 0:10:09.880 --> 0:10:14.720 this is Ohio's eleventh congressional district, and it encompasses portions 0:10:14.760 --> 0:10:17.640 of the Caihouga County and the Summit County in the 0:10:17.760 --> 0:10:21.360 northeast part of Ohio state. This is including the majority 0:10:21.480 --> 0:10:24.760 black precincts in between Cleveland and Akrin. So if you 0:10:24.840 --> 0:10:26.800 jump all the way up to the top of Ohio 0:10:27.360 --> 0:10:30.240 right up there by like Lake Erie, you got like Cleveland, 0:10:30.360 --> 0:10:32.360 and then you've got like a skinny little L shape 0:10:32.640 --> 0:10:36.280 kind of like Tetris block shaped ass congressional district because 0:10:36.320 --> 0:10:39.920 jerry mandering. Um. But yeah, got Acron, got Cleveland in there. 0:10:40.040 --> 0:10:42.400 You know, Lake Erie caught on fire one time because 0:10:42.400 --> 0:10:44.920 of all the ship flown in it. Yeah, I remember 0:10:45.000 --> 0:10:49.520 when recently the Gulf of Mexico will caught five Nina Turner, 0:10:50.400 --> 0:10:53.360 who we will be this discussing away today. Um, we're 0:10:53.400 --> 0:10:55.679 talking about how like the E p A and kind 0:10:55.679 --> 0:10:58.520 of came out of what happened up in like Erie, 0:10:58.640 --> 0:11:02.360 like in response to like water shouldn't catch fire, y'all, 0:11:03.400 --> 0:11:06.600 perhaps we should inter intervene and we could get into 0:11:06.880 --> 0:11:12.560 the whole. Yeah, like you cant do a whole another 0:11:12.640 --> 0:11:15.839 lot layer ship with all of that. But okay, so okay, 0:11:15.920 --> 0:11:18.240 we got Akron, we got Cleveland. But why does this matter? 0:11:18.240 --> 0:11:19.839 Because I don't really give a ship about Ohio and 0:11:19.920 --> 0:11:23.280 no offense Ohio high listeners. Oh this lovely state my 0:11:23.320 --> 0:11:25.880 brother used to live in Cincinnati is great? But why 0:11:27.240 --> 0:11:29.439 since no? But like, why are we even talking about this? 0:11:29.480 --> 0:11:31.840 But this here's the thing. So they're running to replace 0:11:31.960 --> 0:11:34.360 Marcia Fudge, who was appointed to be the head of 0:11:34.440 --> 0:11:39.720 the Housing and Urban Development um depart the department whatever 0:11:39.960 --> 0:11:44.600 you know, for our buddy Biden. And so it left 0:11:44.679 --> 0:11:48.240 open this open seat in a deep democratic district. Maybe 0:11:48.280 --> 0:11:50.160 it became a proxy fight between the left most ring 0:11:50.240 --> 0:11:53.640 the Democratic Party and the quote unquote democratic establishment, which 0:11:53.679 --> 0:11:55.360 is a term we're actually gonna break down a little 0:11:55.400 --> 0:11:58.400 bit later on. Because different people have different ideas of 0:11:58.480 --> 0:12:02.920 what established it means. So you got Nita Turner and 0:12:03.200 --> 0:12:06.120 she was the Cleveland City council member from two thousand 0:12:06.240 --> 0:12:09.720 six to two eight and the Ohio State Senator from 0:12:09.760 --> 0:12:14.079 two thousand eighteen. The Turner was a Democratic nominee for 0:12:14.480 --> 0:12:17.880 Ohio Secretary of State in fourteen, and she supported Bernie 0:12:17.960 --> 0:12:22.080 Sanders in his twenty sixteen presidential campaign. Became the president 0:12:22.280 --> 0:12:26.839 of the Sanders affiliate group Our Revolution. In seventeen, she 0:12:26.960 --> 0:12:31.480 served as the national co chair of Bernie Sanders presidential campaign. 0:12:31.920 --> 0:12:37.920 And was it when when the I am somebody or hello, hello, 0:12:38.040 --> 0:12:43.599 somebody that I don't know. I feel like she just 0:12:43.679 --> 0:12:45.839 been saying that, like, just been saying I don't know 0:12:45.960 --> 0:12:49.800 what's what's the Was there a moment where that I 0:12:49.920 --> 0:12:54.559 feel like out of the wound, like somebody like yeah, 0:12:54.559 --> 0:12:56.280 I don't know. I feel like I feel like all 0:12:56.320 --> 0:12:57.959 of a sudden, I started here and they're saying I 0:12:58.040 --> 0:13:00.439 was like, oh man, that's gonna stick. That's a good 0:13:00.520 --> 0:13:06.520 one right there. Yeah. Yeah. And so she's known for 0:13:06.640 --> 0:13:13.959 being assassy, unapologetic, like truth teller, unapologetically um critical of 0:13:14.040 --> 0:13:17.360 the democratic establishment, you know, running on a platform and 0:13:17.440 --> 0:13:21.640 medicare for all in this congressional run student debt translation 0:13:21.679 --> 0:13:23.880 to Green New Deal, you know, very much following in 0:13:23.880 --> 0:13:27.439 the footsteps of Bernie Sanders foot regards to policy priorities, 0:13:27.840 --> 0:13:30.400 and as such, it was endorsed by a huge hall 0:13:30.480 --> 0:13:33.240 elected officials and faith leaders from within the debt district. 0:13:33.559 --> 0:13:36.600 As those national names like Danny Glover. Actually saw her 0:13:36.640 --> 0:13:38.760 in Danny Glover. I've told the story on the show before. 0:13:39.120 --> 0:13:42.080 I saw her in Danny Glover in South Carolina during 0:13:42.520 --> 0:13:46.280 Bernie's campaign, in this tiny, little like church in the 0:13:46.320 --> 0:13:49.640 middle of nowhere in South Carolina. Like it was like 0:13:49.679 --> 0:13:55.520 an accidental date. That's I'm not going to pretty much this, 0:13:55.920 --> 0:13:59.240 but I will sure I will briefly summarize that me 0:13:59.440 --> 0:14:01.679 going to see Nina Turner and Danny Glover in this 0:14:01.760 --> 0:14:07.520 tiny church in South Carolina ended a relationship I got. Yeah, 0:14:08.800 --> 0:14:11.360 being this girl broke up over going to see Nina 0:14:11.400 --> 0:14:14.319 Turner and Danny Glover in South Carota. Yeah, I think happened. 0:14:14.400 --> 0:14:19.560 Yeah all the but so Danny Glover, Maryann Williamson, Susan Surrandon, 0:14:19.680 --> 0:14:25.040 Andrew Yang, former Secretary of Labor under what was it? Yeah, 0:14:25.680 --> 0:14:29.080 Robert Right not to mention squad squad of Jason's Congress 0:14:29.080 --> 0:14:32.880 folks like AOC Corey Bush and Marquis Jamal Bowman. And 0:14:32.960 --> 0:14:36.160 then you've got all these heavyweight progressive organizations lining up 0:14:36.200 --> 0:14:40.520 behind uh Senator Turner, like Sunrise Movement, our Revolution of course, 0:14:40.960 --> 0:14:45.880 our Black Party, Justice Democrats, unions like Communication Workers of America. 0:14:46.080 --> 0:14:48.880 You got sucking brand new Congress, Working Families Party. It's 0:14:48.960 --> 0:14:51.040 like that scene in the Invengers where they're like coming 0:14:51.040 --> 0:14:54.120 out of the sky. I do've never actually, I don't 0:14:54.120 --> 0:14:56.840 even think I've seen that movie. I've seen that memes 0:14:56.960 --> 0:14:59.320 and that where it's like a symbol like the black 0:14:59.360 --> 0:15:02.480 panthers are he and like you're yeah, so she had 0:15:02.560 --> 0:15:05.160 that sort of like montage in the background, you know 0:15:05.320 --> 0:15:08.160 that she was pulling up on the scene. I've enjoyed 0:15:08.240 --> 0:15:11.280 the political memes of that scene more than I enjoyed 0:15:11.320 --> 0:15:14.400 that movie. I t rup sometimes I've never even seen 0:15:14.480 --> 0:15:17.360 the film. Yeah, no, for real, you're you're you're definitely 0:15:17.440 --> 0:15:21.880 right there. I remember I remember the night when or 0:15:21.920 --> 0:15:25.320 the day when it was declared that Biden like officially 0:15:25.400 --> 0:15:29.440 one somebody made like a dough bass me where it 0:15:29.560 --> 0:15:32.240 was like Biden was iron Man and Bernie was like 0:15:32.400 --> 0:15:34.520 dr It was funny and ship but it was like 0:15:35.560 --> 0:15:38.080 in the moment, like sitting there in private watching it, 0:15:38.160 --> 0:15:40.760 I I welled up a little bit. Definitely, I'm not 0:15:40.800 --> 0:15:45.680 gonna but my allergies. I mean, the Senator was clear, 0:15:45.760 --> 0:15:47.320 he's a man of his word. He said it in, 0:15:48.200 --> 0:15:50.640 he said it again. So the Senator is doing what 0:15:50.760 --> 0:15:53.040 he does, and he created a movement. He was a 0:15:53.160 --> 0:15:56.160 spark and the movement is the fight. And so the 0:15:56.280 --> 0:15:59.440 movement doesn't change the The notion that we need medicamp 0:15:59.520 --> 0:16:02.200 rawl does not change the notion that we need to 0:16:02.560 --> 0:16:05.880 legalize cannabis and taking off the schedule one because it 0:16:05.960 --> 0:16:09.000 has ruined so many lives, particularly African American lives with 0:16:09.040 --> 0:16:11.160 the war on drugs and this, and that doesn't change 0:16:11.400 --> 0:16:14.400 the need to have college for all. That doesn't change 0:16:14.720 --> 0:16:18.760 environmental justice. See, none of those core fundamental issues changed 0:16:18.800 --> 0:16:21.440 because it was never about a personality. It was more 0:16:21.480 --> 0:16:24.720 about the mission. And so progressives are still on the mission, 0:16:25.000 --> 0:16:28.600 understanding very clearly that we got two dragons we gotta slay. 0:16:28.960 --> 0:16:31.920 We gotta slay the dragon of neo fascism and slay 0:16:31.960 --> 0:16:35.320 the dragon of neo liberalism, and the progressive movement is 0:16:35.360 --> 0:16:37.920 here for So on the other side of this, you've 0:16:37.920 --> 0:16:41.480 got Chantel Brown and she represents the Caya Houga Counties 0:16:41.600 --> 0:16:48.080 ninth District on the County Council, which includes Bedford, Warrensville Heights, 0:16:48.560 --> 0:16:52.760 Shaker Heights, Orange and parts of Cleveland. And she chairs 0:16:52.800 --> 0:16:58.480 the Cuyahoga County Democratic Party. Now, several notable UH Democrats 0:16:58.600 --> 0:17:02.200 endorsed Brown's candidacy. And this is including the former Secretary 0:17:02.240 --> 0:17:06.200 of State and the two thousand sixteen Democratic presidential nominee 0:17:06.240 --> 0:17:09.680 Hillary Clinton. That you know, so someone you might have 0:17:09.720 --> 0:17:11.680 heard of her, You know what I'm saying. She made 0:17:11.680 --> 0:17:13.920 a couple of hits back in the day. Um, you've 0:17:13.920 --> 0:17:18.119 got majority with Jim clyburn on their US Representative Joyce 0:17:18.240 --> 0:17:24.200 Betty Beatty Betty, and uh, the Congressional Black Caucus Pack 0:17:24.640 --> 0:17:29.640 and Democratic Majority for Israel they've all supported Brown as well. Yeah, 0:17:29.800 --> 0:17:31.280 so I think, I mean, I think it's pretty ully 0:17:31.280 --> 0:17:35.480 interesting that the Congressional Black Caucus Pack would endorse interrace 0:17:35.760 --> 0:17:38.560 where there's two black female candidates. Do you think it's 0:17:38.600 --> 0:17:41.280 something bad on their part? I mean, I think it's 0:17:41.280 --> 0:17:45.800 speaks to the politics of the black the federal Black 0:17:45.880 --> 0:17:51.280 miss leadership class. To my my opinion that like really 0:17:51.359 --> 0:17:54.879 progressive policies that I feel would uplift black people, given 0:17:55.200 --> 0:17:58.920 the disparities in access to healthcare things like medicare for 0:17:59.040 --> 0:18:03.280 all the things that, you know, the ways that the 0:18:03.400 --> 0:18:08.440 student debt crisis exacerbates the racial wealth gap. Student debt 0:18:08.480 --> 0:18:13.960 cancelation was certainly benefit back people. But uh, the people 0:18:14.119 --> 0:18:18.680 that run the ship, you know, the Jim Clyburns and 0:18:18.720 --> 0:18:22.680 the folks who sacrifice so much and have had their 0:18:22.760 --> 0:18:25.359 like next stept on to such a degree over so 0:18:25.400 --> 0:18:28.280 many decades to get where they are. They've hadn't been 0:18:28.320 --> 0:18:33.119 to the knee to capitalism, to just like white supremacy 0:18:33.200 --> 0:18:34.760 for so long in order to make it to where 0:18:34.840 --> 0:18:38.320 they are in Congress, into these position of leadership that 0:18:39.040 --> 0:18:43.160 they expect everyone following after them to be welcomed into 0:18:43.200 --> 0:18:47.159 their fold, to also sort of abandon whatever they need 0:18:47.200 --> 0:18:50.680 to abandon in order to just get the power. Unfortunately. 0:18:51.119 --> 0:18:54.240 I mean like that, I just it just makes me sad, 0:18:54.720 --> 0:18:56.840 But I feel like that's what that's kind of means. 0:18:56.960 --> 0:18:59.200 I mean, they have to play devil's advocate. I mean, 0:19:00.040 --> 0:19:02.240 they could just generally just have a you know what 0:19:02.280 --> 0:19:06.479 I'm saying, like a different approach to to how they 0:19:06.640 --> 0:19:08.600 want to go about doing things, and it might not 0:19:08.760 --> 0:19:12.680 necessarily be like on some conscious, deep seated like, oh, 0:19:12.760 --> 0:19:16.080 we're trying to maintain power and we're going to forego 0:19:16.200 --> 0:19:19.200 all of our I know. I yeah, I genuinely think 0:19:19.240 --> 0:19:22.520 they think that they're doing the right thing. I don't. 0:19:24.800 --> 0:19:26.520 And I say this, I hope they don't hear this. 0:19:27.320 --> 0:19:29.960 Here's a hot take. I think just because you know 0:19:30.040 --> 0:19:32.320 you brought it up with the two black women running 0:19:32.320 --> 0:19:36.960 against each other, I think from a strategic standpoint, it 0:19:37.119 --> 0:19:41.560 was probably a good move on the establishments side, because 0:19:42.080 --> 0:19:44.760 I think that if they had ran a white person 0:19:45.000 --> 0:19:47.800 against Nina Turner, I think she might have beat them. 0:19:48.480 --> 0:19:51.000 Like regardless of I don't no, no, no, no, no, no, 0:19:51.480 --> 0:19:53.280 that's a little bit no no, no. I think you're right. 0:19:53.359 --> 0:19:56.520 I think you're absolutely right. Yeah. Um, I mean, I 0:19:56.720 --> 0:20:01.399 I do think you would a degree, um man. I mean, 0:20:01.440 --> 0:20:03.120 I want to agree with you that they do think 0:20:03.200 --> 0:20:07.240 that their strategy for wielding power and governance, like they 0:20:07.320 --> 0:20:09.280 genuinely believe it's the right way to do it. But 0:20:09.359 --> 0:20:10.959 they also want to bring people in the phone who 0:20:10.960 --> 0:20:12.320 will been the need to them. But I mean a 0:20:12.359 --> 0:20:15.440 lot of them are you know, I'm I'm like the 0:20:15.520 --> 0:20:20.119 advocate against AGESM on this show. But a lot of 0:20:20.160 --> 0:20:22.080 them are old, you know what I mean, Just keeping 0:20:22.080 --> 0:20:23.760 it real, A lot of these are on and that 0:20:23.920 --> 0:20:27.000 and that's that. I don't even necessarily know if that's 0:20:27.080 --> 0:20:32.960 like indicative of their stances or their beliefs changing. More 0:20:33.080 --> 0:20:36.240 so that it's just our ships different, now, you know 0:20:36.280 --> 0:20:38.200 what I mean. I don't think Jim Clyburn is walking 0:20:38.240 --> 0:20:41.080 around thinking I'm a moderate, you know what I'm saying. 0:20:41.119 --> 0:20:44.400 I think Jim Clyburn he's left the ship he does. 0:20:44.640 --> 0:20:48.880 He's left. He's left like he's like nineteen sixties left, 0:20:48.960 --> 0:20:52.320 you know what I'm saying. And the new generation just 0:20:52.520 --> 0:20:58.000 might might be a bit of some harder stuff. You 0:20:58.080 --> 0:21:00.760 might you might be using some harder stuff that the 0:21:00.800 --> 0:21:04.679 old folks can't can't keep up with, right right right. 0:21:04.760 --> 0:21:06.480 You fall out as you fall out of touch with 0:21:06.640 --> 0:21:10.159 new ideas as you but I think particularly like proximity 0:21:10.240 --> 0:21:13.160 to power will do that to you, which you get 0:21:13.240 --> 0:21:16.440 in um as a young person with like you know, 0:21:17.119 --> 0:21:20.320 radical ideas or whatever, and then twenty years in the 0:21:20.400 --> 0:21:24.000 system beats the ship out of you such that like, yeah, 0:21:24.040 --> 0:21:26.239 you continue to identify. Is that because that was your 0:21:26.280 --> 0:21:30.600 formative identity, but like you don't actually you know, actually 0:21:30.680 --> 0:21:34.600 rock with actually like because you're like, wow, I got 0:21:34.680 --> 0:21:36.800 told for twenty years to sit down and calm down 0:21:36.920 --> 0:21:39.800 and this is the best way, and I've kind of 0:21:39.840 --> 0:21:41.960 abandoned all those ideas. And I've seen it. I mean, 0:21:42.040 --> 0:21:44.119 like I know, I've seen it happen to people. I 0:21:44.200 --> 0:21:48.520 remember when I first really got into leftist politics or 0:21:48.560 --> 0:21:50.800 started like paying attention to leftist politics. It was like 0:21:50.920 --> 0:21:54.159 coming out of that sort of haze of like, oh, 0:21:54.280 --> 0:21:56.359 you know, I get my you know, I know what 0:21:56.480 --> 0:21:59.359 I know because CNN and MSNBC, you know, reported on 0:21:59.440 --> 0:22:01.679 it and ship. So I remember when I first started 0:22:01.720 --> 0:22:04.359 getting into left of stuff and it was like, wait 0:22:04.400 --> 0:22:09.280 a minute, you mean Nancy Pelosi is not like you. 0:22:09.560 --> 0:22:12.080 I mean, like, like Nancy Pelosi is not like left 0:22:12.240 --> 0:22:15.400 like she's she's a moderate, really right. And so when 0:22:15.440 --> 0:22:17.760 you get clips of like Nina Turner saying stuff like 0:22:17.840 --> 0:22:21.440 we gotta fight fashion fascism and need liberalism at the 0:22:21.480 --> 0:22:24.680 same time, like you scare people who are like, wait, 0:22:25.359 --> 0:22:29.080 liberalism could be is it it's a bad thing? Well, 0:22:29.119 --> 0:22:31.760 they don't realize it's like this, like farther left things 0:22:32.040 --> 0:22:35.800 that are good for people that that's a messaging thing though, 0:22:36.080 --> 0:22:38.399 And I mean it seems stupid, but it is a 0:22:38.480 --> 0:22:42.400 messaging thing. Like we live. We live in a country 0:22:42.520 --> 0:22:48.040