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Speaker 1: Welcome it as Verdict with Center, Ted Cruz, Ben Ferguson

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Speaker 1: you get your podcasts. Senator, We've got a lot to

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Speaker 1: talk about in this show, including something that we were

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Speaker 1: worried about and have been talking about for years, and

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Speaker 1: that was the number of terrorists that we were afraid

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Speaker 1: were being let into this country with our wide open

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Speaker 1: southern border under the Biden administration. The number that we're

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Speaker 1: now being warned about is one that I even would

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Speaker 1: not have guessed worst case scenario. And now the Trump

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Speaker 1: officials are saying there are a lot of known and

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Speaker 1: suspected terrorists in the US.

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Speaker 2: Well, that's exactly right. The Trump administration testified before Congress

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Speaker 2: that eighteen thousand known and suspected terrorists are in the

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Speaker 2: United States because Joe Biden the Democrats let them in.

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Speaker 2: We're going to break that down. The threat that poses

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Speaker 2: to national security, the threat that poses to our families.

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Speaker 2: you as well. And finally, we're going to talk about

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Speaker 2: legislation that I have in the Senate to designate the

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Speaker 2: Muslim Brotherhood as a terrorist organization. I think it is

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Speaker 2: incredibly important. President Trump has led on this, and there

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Speaker 2: was a battle in the House of Representatives where unfortunately

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Speaker 2: We're going to talk about that as well.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, it really is incredible stories and we're going to

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Speaker 1: All right, so let's get to this first big story center.

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Speaker 1: And again it is a headline that when I saw

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Speaker 1: it earlier day, I actually was terrified because Trump officials

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Speaker 1: Biden also for the attack on the National Guard, and

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Speaker 1: this is their warning of just how bad it actually is.

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Speaker 2: That's exactly right. This is dangerous. So here's what the

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Speaker 2: New York Post has reported. Quote as many as eighteen

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Speaker 2: thousand terrorists entered the US during the Biden administration. National

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Speaker 2: counter Terrorism Center Director Joe Kent revealed during a House

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Speaker 2: committee hearing on Thursday. So far, NCTC has identified around

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Speaker 2: Homeland Security Committee. These are individuals who, under normal circumstances,

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Speaker 2: He said, Yet the Biden administration not only let them

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Speaker 2: The FBI foiled other ISIS terrorist attack in Michigan and

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Speaker 2: In April, before Trump took office, a suspected ISIS terrorist

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Speaker 2: counter Terrorism Office has since identified two thousand of that

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Speaker 2: The Post first reported a fourth was led into the

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Speaker 2: out an ISIS inspired Election Day terror attack last year.

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Speaker 2: All five, including Lackhunwal, entered the country as part of

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Speaker 2: An official from the Office of the Director of National

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Speaker 2: Intelligence told the Post that hundreds of other ISIS affiliated

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Speaker 2: The NCTC has also identified hundreds of MS thirteen trender

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Speaker 2: enforcement to prioritize their arrests and deportations. The official added. Stunningly,

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Speaker 2: Kent claim in the hearing that the remaining sixteen thousand

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Speaker 2: The Trump administration recently warned Americans that the US was

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Speaker 2: at quote heightened risk of terrorist attacks. Kent said, noting

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Speaker 1: Centaer, I want to play for you the NCTC Director

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Speaker 3: We've made significant progress under President Trump's leadership. We have

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Speaker 3: We just recently put out a warning warning of the

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Speaker 3: heightened risk of terrorist attacks posed to the homeland by

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Speaker 1: has now been put out a warning for a ISIS

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Speaker 2: Well, the massive national security threat we face. Over four

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Speaker 2: years of the Biden Harris administration, we saw over twelve

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Speaker 2: It is the highest rate of illegal immigration in our

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Speaker 2: Now why did god aways matter? God Aways are the

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Speaker 2: people that did not turn themselves in. Of the twelve million,

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Speaker 2: The god aways are much much more likely to be criminals,

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Speaker 2: it really underscores the urgency with which the Trump administration

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Speaker 2: and it actually explains why the Democrats in the media

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Speaker 2: This is front and center a massive issue for the country.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, and that's more of what the NCTC director Joe

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Speaker 3: NCTC has been crunching the numbers and going through the

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Speaker 3: sheer volume of known and suspected terrorists that are in

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Speaker 3: NCTC has identified around eighteen thousand known and suspected terrorists

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Speaker 3: entry of the Afghan terrorists who committed the terrorist attack

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Speaker 3: These individuals, despite what has been reported, were not vetted

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Speaker 3: serve as a soldier in Afghanistan. The Biden administration essentially

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Speaker 3: used his tactical level vetting as a ruse to bring

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Speaker 3: we've seen the tragic results of that. Now that Afghan,

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Speaker 3: that attacker, that terrorist is just one of eighty eight thousand.

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Speaker 3: We've identified two thousand of that group of eighty eight

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Speaker 3: thousand who have ties to terrorist organizations. We're working right now,

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Speaker 1: This wasn't an accident, and I think that's part of

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Speaker 4: Ted Cruz has been a very strong advocate of common

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Speaker 4: This is common sense. I mean, I think it's nothing

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Speaker 2: Please say, listen, this is the single most important economic

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Speaker 2: regulatory approach. Here's an amazing statistic, mister President. In nineteen

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Speaker 2: This is a common sense principle. We should be the

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Speaker 2: simple question we want to ask is who do we

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Speaker 1: of people that listen to Eric, they say, hey, what

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Speaker 2: Absolutely, so, Look, the Muslim Brotherhood is a terrorist organization.

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Speaker 2: It is one of the most dangerous terrorist organizations on

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Speaker 2: the planet. I have been fighting for literally ten years

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Speaker 2: for the United States to designate the Muslim Brotherhood as

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Speaker 2: a terrorist organization. In the first Trump administration, I came

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Speaker 2: incredibly close. I almost got the Trump administration to do it.

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Speaker 2: Here's what defeated me. So there's a global umbrella group,

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Speaker 2: the Muslim Brotherhood, and there are a bunch of affiliates

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Speaker 2: State Department operatives who argued against what I was trying

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Speaker 2: to do in Trump want, and the argument they use

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Speaker 2: that prevailed is they said, well, look, not every single

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Speaker 2: affiliate of the Muslim Brotherhood can we prove as a

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Speaker 2: terrorist organization. Some of them clearly are, but others of

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Speaker 2: them there's not clear and irrefutable evidence that they're engaged

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Speaker 2: in terrorism. That's what defeated my effort. Trump won. So

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Speaker 2: here's what I've done Trump too. I said the previous

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Speaker 2: efforts were top down. They were designate the global Muslim

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Speaker 2: Brotherhood and then designate all their affiliates. They argued, some

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Speaker 2: of the affiliates may not be terrorists. I don't buy that,

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Speaker 2: but it was an argument, and it was an argument

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Speaker 2: the entire approach. I said, all right, let's rather than

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Speaker 2: filed legislation that directed the administration designate every Muslim Brotherhood

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Speaker 2: affiliate that there is clear and unequivocal evidence their terrorist organization.

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Speaker 2: So for example, Hamas Hamas is the Muslim Brotherhood in Palestine,

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Speaker 2: so there is no dispute Hamas is a terrorist organization.

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Speaker 2: So that that is an easy example of a Muslim

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Speaker 2: Brotherhood affiliate that is indisputably terrorist. My legislation says designate

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Speaker 2: the affiliates, and then it says designate the global Muslim

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Speaker 2: Brotherhood for providing money, for providing material assistance to the

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Speaker 2: affiliates that are indisputably terrorist organizations. So I filed that legislation.

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Speaker 2: I've been pressing the Trump administration. President Trump stepped in

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Speaker 2: And basically the Trumpet administration is following the approach in

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Speaker 2: my legislation. Now I want you to listen. This week,

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Speaker 2: a State Department official from the Trump administration was testifying

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Speaker 2: before the Senate. I questioned him on this give a listen.

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Speaker 2: Do you believe the Muslim Brotherhood poses a threat to

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Speaker 2: the national security of the United States.

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Speaker 5: Yes.

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Speaker 2: Now let's pivot away from the President's executive order to

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Speaker 2: what's happening here in Congress. As I said earlier, and

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Speaker 2: as you observed, I've been pushing to designate the Muslim

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Speaker 2: Brotherhood for more than a decade.

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Speaker 1: Now.

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Speaker 2: I've introduced legislation to do so in all but one

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Speaker 2: Congress since I was elected. This Congress, I introduced a

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Speaker 2: version of my bill, the Muslim Brotherhood Terrorist Designation Act,

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Speaker 2: that uses the same bottoms up approach that is in

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Speaker 2: President Trump's executive ward. It has bipartisan support in both chambers.

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Speaker 2: Last week, frustratingly, the House version of my bill was

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Speaker 2: advanced but terminally weakened by the House Foreign Affairs Committee.

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Speaker 2: They took out the designation part of the Muslim Brotherhood

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Speaker 2: Terrorist Designation Act. The Senate should do better, and we

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Speaker 2: should move the full bill on our side. Some public

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Speaker 2: reports and statements have claimed that House members, including House Republicans,

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Speaker 2: did not believe that Congress should have a role in

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Speaker 2: crafting sanctions which are to be implemented by the executive

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Speaker 2: I find that argument to be specious, and I know

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Speaker 2: the vast majority of this committee does as well, Mister Lerherfel,

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Speaker 2: I and my colleagues have implicit and explicit expectations that

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Speaker 2: executive officials will work with and, when appropriate, even defer

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Speaker 2: to this Committee on issues of foreign policy, including sanctions

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Speaker 2: and including the designation of terrorist groups. What is your

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Speaker 2: view of the role that Congris plays on these issues,

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Speaker 2: including on initiatives like mine to designate the Muslim Brotherhood

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Speaker 2: as a terrorist group.

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Speaker 5: Senator Cruz, thank you for your question. I fully respect

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Speaker 5: Congress's Article one authority and making laws, including with respect

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Speaker 5: to foreign terror organization designations or other types of designations.

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Speaker 5: Whatever legislation has passed, I will faithfully execute if I

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Speaker 2: Thank you all right. Final question, one element of this

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Speaker 2: debate that continues to surprise me, and I don't think

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Speaker 2: the American people, even many people here in Congress, I

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Speaker 2: don't think they appreciate the degree to which are allies

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Speaker 2: support acknowledging and designating the Muslim Brotherhood as a terrorist organization.

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Speaker 2: As you know, Jordan, Egypt, Saudi Arabia, the uae Bahrain, Kenya,

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Speaker 2: they have all already designated the Muslim Brotherhood as a

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Speaker 2: terrorist organization. These are our allies and partners in the

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Speaker 2: Middle East and Africa, and there's a pernicious narrative that

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Speaker 2: doing the same thing they've done designating the Muslim Brotherhood

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Speaker 2: will somehow alienate these partners. Describe how you would work

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Speaker 2: with our allies to counter the Brotherhood's malign activities.

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Speaker 5: Senator Cruz, thank you for that question. I can say

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Speaker 5: that in a previous capacity in the Bureau of counter Terrorism,

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Speaker 5: I led our efforts to designate the IRGC, get designations

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Speaker 5: of other countries to designate the IRGC as well as

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Speaker 5: Hisbela and Hamas, particularly in the Western Hemisphere. That approach,

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Speaker 5: it's pretty pretty intense diplomacy. It requires a lot of legwork.

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Speaker 5: I've talked with our chief submission in the Western Hemisphere

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Speaker 5: across to Australia with respect to that, and saw the

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Speaker 5: news there about four or five months ago what Australia

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Speaker 5: did with respect to the IRGC. I would template that

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Speaker 5: really and get at the Muslim Brotherhood using that diplomatic approach.

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Speaker 5: That worked. That working, and there's more work to be done.

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Speaker 5: Let me be clear, with the IRGC and his Bollah

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Speaker 5: and Hamaus, but I would template that in our efforts

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Speaker 5: with the Muslim Brotherhood.

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Speaker 2: Terrific, very helpy, Thank you, thank you, sir.

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Speaker 1: You're here, your question there, and I want you to

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Speaker 1: just explain why this is so important center.

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Speaker 2: We need to be clear eyed. We need to be

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Speaker 2: clear eyed about the threats to America. The Muslim Brotherhood

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Speaker 2: is a radical jihadist global terror network. They are funding

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Speaker 2: Jahatis in countries across the globe and we are seeing

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Speaker 2: we started this podcast by talking about eighteen thousand terrorists

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Speaker 2: coming to this country. Enter Joe Biden. These are the

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Speaker 2: Muslim Brotherhood is deliberately promoting people who are seeking to

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Speaker 2: engage in act acts of terror. They're seeking to wage jihad.

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Speaker 2: And we need to be serious and clear eyed. And

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Speaker 2: I got to say there's some Republicans that are nervous

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Speaker 2: about this, but Donald Trump is not. And his designation

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Speaker 2: was historic, and I'm continuing to work hand in hand

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Speaker 2: with him to protect American to protect the American people

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Speaker 2: against the threat of the Muslim Brotherhood, against the threat

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Speaker 2: of Johns.

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