WEBVTT - “Post-it That Says: ‘Get Your Charger!’” | Packing 0:00:00.960 --> 0:00:03.920 For me, it's I'm a really good about charger For 0:00:03.960 --> 0:00:07.000 some reason. Again, I think it's anxiety of like mostly 0:00:07.040 --> 0:00:09.680 like my kids iPads, like rinning out of juice on 0:00:09.720 --> 0:00:10.160 the plane. 0:00:13.320 --> 0:00:16.440 So I'm like, I do not want to deal with that. 0:00:16.680 --> 0:00:19.320 No, so I bring I'm always have chargers, and I 0:00:19.360 --> 0:00:22.600 always have portable chargers too, like at least one or two. 0:00:22.680 --> 0:00:38.040 More more, more Better, corner, a little more better, more 0:00:38.840 --> 0:00:39.360 you start. 0:00:39.520 --> 0:00:42.080 Welcome to More Better, a podcast where we stop pretending 0:00:42.120 --> 0:00:43.240 to have it all together. 0:00:43.600 --> 0:00:46.080 And embrace the journey of becoming a little more better 0:00:46.200 --> 0:00:48.559 every day, or at least trying to. 0:00:48.680 --> 0:00:52.320 That's most of Room Marrow, and that's Stephanie Beatrice. Hey girl, 0:00:52.320 --> 0:00:55.680 what's going on? Hey girl? How you do it? 0:00:57.280 --> 0:01:03.279 Heye girl, I'm fucking freezing. The weather change amazing, Oh 0:01:03.320 --> 0:01:05.600 my god, I mean listen, Am I excited to get 0:01:05.600 --> 0:01:08.280 my little layered out that's going Yes? Am I cuzying 0:01:08.360 --> 0:01:11.480 in my apartment or my apartment, my office. Yes, I'm 0:01:11.520 --> 0:01:14.800 fucking cool. I've busted out my old school Patagonia. 0:01:15.640 --> 0:01:18.680 Yeah, it's sweat a weather. It's sweat a weather. 0:01:19.360 --> 0:01:22.200 It's sweat a weather, and I am so excited about it. 0:01:22.280 --> 0:01:24.000 I am done with the heat. 0:01:24.400 --> 0:01:26.759 No more. Well, it is going to be eighty degrees 0:01:27.080 --> 0:01:28.119 later today, I know. 0:01:28.319 --> 0:01:30.240 It's gonna be No, We're probably gonna have like two 0:01:30.280 --> 0:01:34.080 more fucking hot heat waves before the cool finally settle. 0:01:36.120 --> 0:01:38.200 What sorry that I just yawned. I need to drink 0:01:38.200 --> 0:01:38.800 more coffee. 0:01:38.840 --> 0:01:40.440 What have you done lately? That's more better? 0:01:41.760 --> 0:01:41.840 Well? 0:01:41.920 --> 0:01:44.919 What have I done lately? That is more better? 0:01:45.080 --> 0:01:47.280 I feel like I've been really stressed out the last 0:01:47.280 --> 0:01:50.200 few weeks. Oh, and you know sometimes when you get 0:01:50.240 --> 0:01:53.000 into these cycles of feeling overwhelmed and stressed out, but 0:01:53.080 --> 0:01:56.240 you just kind of keep moving. So I'm trying to 0:01:56.320 --> 0:02:00.720 be more better at like clocking. Oh, I feel overwhelmed 0:02:00.800 --> 0:02:03.280 right now. I feel really stressed out. What can I 0:02:03.400 --> 0:02:06.320 do about it in this moment instead of just like 0:02:06.920 --> 0:02:10.600 trucking through, like just trying to be more conscious, whether 0:02:10.680 --> 0:02:13.320 it's like I literally go to the bathroom and like 0:02:13.400 --> 0:02:17.040 take five deep breaths, like the kind where you like 0:02:17.120 --> 0:02:20.440 inhale for four, hold it for four, exhale for four. 0:02:21.000 --> 0:02:24.799 Sometimes even just acknowledging it and just being like what 0:02:24.880 --> 0:02:25.440 is it about? 0:02:25.560 --> 0:02:25.640 What? 0:02:25.880 --> 0:02:28.520 Oh? Look at me, I'm stressed, Yeah, look at me. 0:02:28.560 --> 0:02:29.520 I feel really stressed out. 0:02:29.520 --> 0:02:32.440 About Is it actually about anything or is it just 0:02:32.720 --> 0:02:36.160 I don't know, a reaction to my kid playing the 0:02:36.200 --> 0:02:42.120 trumpet too loud? You know, your kid lay their trumpet. Yeah, 0:02:42.200 --> 0:02:46.639 and So started a band this year his school. It's 0:02:46.680 --> 0:02:51.639 a great music program, and he wanted to do the drums, 0:02:51.720 --> 0:02:56.120 but too many kids pick the drums. So we convinced 0:02:56.240 --> 0:02:58.560 the music teacher emailed all the parents, was like, hey, 0:02:58.560 --> 0:03:01.280 if you can get them excited about it the instrument. 0:03:01.360 --> 0:03:03.480 I think he just didn't want like really upset kids 0:03:03.520 --> 0:03:08.520 who couldn't play the drums. So, uh, David has a cousin, actually, 0:03:09.120 --> 0:03:12.120 Quiso Fumero, who played with like Tito Puente, and he's 0:03:12.160 --> 0:03:16.120 a trumpet player, professional trumpet player, and so we showed 0:03:16.200 --> 0:03:19.960 him some videos of Quiso, and uh got him excited 0:03:19.960 --> 0:03:20.800 about trumpet. 0:03:20.840 --> 0:03:23.880 And I regret my decision. 0:03:25.080 --> 0:03:28.239 Yeah yeah, yeah, yeah, that's. 0:03:28.240 --> 0:03:30.280 Your own doing, dude, that's me. 0:03:30.600 --> 0:03:34.160 It's my own doing. I think I thought that maybe 0:03:34.200 --> 0:03:39.320 he would still get the drums, but oh, he's excited 0:03:39.360 --> 0:03:41.640 about excited about that trumpet. 0:03:44.440 --> 0:03:47.480 Yep. So but you know what, he's not bad, he's not. 0:03:47.560 --> 0:03:49.920 I mean, he just started and like he's he's playing, 0:03:49.960 --> 0:03:52.720 he's actually playing some notes. It's when he just blows 0:03:52.720 --> 0:03:56.240 on it super hard and lowed to be funny that 0:03:56.960 --> 0:03:58.920 oh yeah, yeah. 0:03:58.840 --> 0:04:01.520 Yeah, sorry to this man. Sorry to this man that 0:04:01.560 --> 0:04:04.880 you have a funny kid. What have you been doing lately? 0:04:05.560 --> 0:04:06.280 That's more better. 0:04:07.200 --> 0:04:11.600 I removed myself from the situation this morning when Roz 0:04:12.120 --> 0:04:16.719 threw something at me and then kicked me. I oh, 0:04:16.760 --> 0:04:18.680 I will say, I removed myself. 0:04:19.880 --> 0:04:21.159 She ran into her room crying. 0:04:21.200 --> 0:04:22.800 I was like, Rosaline, you know you're not allowed to 0:04:23.200 --> 0:04:26.200 do that, to throw that at me, or actually I 0:04:26.240 --> 0:04:29.360 was like ros Like I looked at her like whoa bitch? 0:04:29.440 --> 0:04:30.080 Whoa fuck? 0:04:30.480 --> 0:04:30.640 Yeah? 0:04:30.720 --> 0:04:33.320 Yeah, And then she ran out of the room into 0:04:33.360 --> 0:04:35.680 her bed and like put the covers over her head 0:04:35.680 --> 0:04:37.320 and I was like I sat down and I like 0:04:37.480 --> 0:04:40.919 gently touched her. I was like, hey, yeah, we don't care. 0:04:40.960 --> 0:04:44.640 We don't throw things in our house. Yeah, And I 0:04:44.720 --> 0:04:47.760 was going to continue my gentle parenting. And then she 0:04:47.880 --> 0:04:50.320 fucking nailed me in the leg with her foot and 0:04:50.360 --> 0:04:54.000 I was like Rosaline, you know, like I said her 0:04:54.000 --> 0:04:57.560 full name, and I was like, we do not and 0:04:57.720 --> 0:05:00.320 like I raised my voice like to not like I tell, 0:05:00.520 --> 0:05:01.640 but like I was scary. 0:05:01.920 --> 0:05:03.440 I was like low and scary. 0:05:03.800 --> 0:05:10.120 You know, you rose a das her I did, and 0:05:10.160 --> 0:05:13.760 it scared out of her and she cried for like, 0:05:14.040 --> 0:05:16.760 I mean I left the room. I was like, I 0:05:16.839 --> 0:05:20.239 laid it down. I left the room, yep. And uh 0:05:20.360 --> 0:05:25.640 then I steamed my shirt in anger, and I steamed 0:05:25.640 --> 0:05:28.880 another shirt. I have a steamer, guys. And then I 0:05:28.920 --> 0:05:31.120 came back like about ten minutes later, and I was 0:05:31.120 --> 0:05:32.760 really glad I left the room. But I was also 0:05:32.760 --> 0:05:35.240 glad I wasn't. My mom used to do this thing, 0:05:35.440 --> 0:05:38.560 and it's you know, we all deal with like all 0:05:38.600 --> 0:05:41.880 of our familial trauma in different ways, but like my 0:05:41.920 --> 0:05:44.800 mom used to do this thing where she would she 0:05:44.839 --> 0:05:49.400 would like close up like remove her love from the room, 0:05:49.800 --> 0:05:53.400 you know, remove herself and also remove her like and 0:05:53.440 --> 0:05:55.599 so you'd be like, I'm sorry, I upset you, and 0:05:55.640 --> 0:05:59.120 she'd be like cold dead to the world, like just 0:05:59.120 --> 0:06:03.720 like a fucking garage door had come down. And there 0:06:03.800 --> 0:06:06.880 was a moment where I felt like fucking fucked our kid. 0:06:06.880 --> 0:06:09.200 But I didn't, yeah, remain in there. 0:06:09.600 --> 0:06:11.480 I like went back in there and I was like, hey, 0:06:11.520 --> 0:06:13.800 I'm ready to talk whenever you're ready, and like, honestly, 0:06:13.839 --> 0:06:15.440 I didn't even say anything at first I just like 0:06:15.480 --> 0:06:17.240 rubbed her back a little bit, and then she like 0:06:17.240 --> 0:06:19.000 crawled into my lap and then we talked about it. 0:06:19.120 --> 0:06:22.000 That was okay, okay, It's great. 0:06:23.200 --> 0:06:28.920 Myself though, when I like when my voice like went like, here's. 0:06:28.680 --> 0:06:31.560 My not going to get into like parenting things. 0:06:31.600 --> 0:06:34.240 But my main beef with like and I think general 0:06:34.279 --> 0:06:38.040 parentsing's great and I do it somewhat with my kids, 0:06:39.760 --> 0:06:42.240 But the thing that my main beef with it is 0:06:42.400 --> 0:06:45.440 I think it often makes parents feel like they failed 0:06:45.600 --> 0:06:48.600 if they raise their voice or yell or lose control 0:06:48.760 --> 0:06:51.440 or have feelings right, and at the end of the day, 0:06:51.640 --> 0:06:56.560 that is unsustainable, that is impossible. We are also human beings. 0:06:56.839 --> 0:07:00.000 Our kids are going to be fucking dicks, especially because 0:07:00.120 --> 0:07:03.000 us we're raising them in this better, more empathetic, more 0:07:03.000 --> 0:07:07.720 connected way. They feel safer, they feel sometimes like they 0:07:07.760 --> 0:07:11.360 can do some ship and sometimes we're gonna lose it. 0:07:11.760 --> 0:07:14.720 But we are human beings and it's important for them 0:07:14.760 --> 0:07:19.280 to also see that their actions or choices have consequences 0:07:19.360 --> 0:07:22.760 in like how it makes a person fucking feel sometimes 0:07:22.960 --> 0:07:26.880 your actions have consequences, and like your actions consequences if 0:07:26.920 --> 0:07:29.560 you choose to throw your little toy at me, and 0:07:29.600 --> 0:07:32.600 then kick me in the leg, like I might get 0:07:32.640 --> 0:07:37.360 really fucking upset because I'm a person and anybody something 0:07:37.400 --> 0:07:37.640 that me. 0:07:37.960 --> 0:07:38.760 Back the fuck up. 0:07:38.920 --> 0:07:42.120 I'm gonna warn yes, like yes, bro, I'm laying it 0:07:42.160 --> 0:07:45.360 down right now, like this is I'm drawing a line 0:07:45.360 --> 0:07:47.760 in the sand, like you can't fool Like. 0:07:48.000 --> 0:07:52.880 No, you can't like that, you cannot because that's. 0:07:52.680 --> 0:07:55.480 Also the other thing is like again not not getting 0:07:55.560 --> 0:07:59.520 too deep into the parenting world because heaven forbid, but 0:07:59.760 --> 0:08:03.360 have verbid we do not like there are I mean 0:08:03.440 --> 0:08:05.280 part of me teaching her like you can't throw a 0:08:05.280 --> 0:08:07.400 shit at I mean, you can't kick kick me. Is 0:08:07.440 --> 0:08:10.400 like you can't go out there in the real world 0:08:10.440 --> 0:08:14.119 and be acting a fool because some other fool punch 0:08:14.200 --> 0:08:17.280 you in the face. Like some other fools, the other 0:08:17.360 --> 0:08:19.160 fool out in the world is not going to be 0:08:19.240 --> 0:08:22.280 like oh I need you to not understand, like they 0:08:22.360 --> 0:08:26.360 might hit you back, like you know, so I just 0:08:26.400 --> 0:08:31.400 think that it's you know, I used to feel so 0:08:32.200 --> 0:08:39.839 guilty when I would lose it. And you know, a therapist, 0:08:39.960 --> 0:08:43.320 a child therapist that I very much respect, once told 0:08:43.320 --> 0:08:45.120 me it was like you get to be a human being, 0:08:45.400 --> 0:08:47.800 Like it's okay for your kids to see you're not perfect, 0:08:48.679 --> 0:08:50.640 Like it's not very Actually. 0:08:50.480 --> 0:08:53.679 It's necessary actually, like yes, as long as you're like 0:08:54.320 --> 0:08:58.600 reconnecting and repairing after the thing that has happened, Like 0:08:59.280 --> 0:09:01.440 that's actually the most important moment. 0:09:01.280 --> 0:09:01.560 That's what. 0:09:01.840 --> 0:09:04.240 That's what I'm saying. Like though, that's the part that 0:09:04.320 --> 0:09:05.160 my mom would like. 0:09:06.280 --> 0:09:06.920 Right right. 0:09:07.040 --> 0:09:09.040 I think most of our parents, Yeah, I don't think 0:09:09.040 --> 0:09:13.360 our parents knew, oh you know, to to do that 0:09:13.640 --> 0:09:17.480 like connect and repair. Yeah, And then we're all adults 0:09:17.520 --> 0:09:20.520 being like having a fucking hard time apologizing for shit 0:09:20.640 --> 0:09:23.520 and like you know, or like having I don't I'm 0:09:23.559 --> 0:09:25.120 messed up and I don't know how to talk about 0:09:25.160 --> 0:09:27.200 it now, Like how do I fix this with my friend? 0:09:27.360 --> 0:09:32.920 You know? So I think that's like the biggest thing 0:09:32.960 --> 0:09:35.520 that we're giving our kids. But like, yeah, man, I 0:09:35.640 --> 0:09:36.719 freaking are you kidding me? 0:09:36.760 --> 0:09:39.760 I got two wild ass boys. I lose my shit 0:09:40.160 --> 0:09:44.560 all the time. They fucking know how to get me 0:09:44.679 --> 0:09:47.559 to the brink. Yeah, And I try not to give. 0:09:47.760 --> 0:09:48.280 I try. 0:09:48.400 --> 0:09:51.400 I have days where I'm really good because I'm also like, 0:09:51.440 --> 0:09:53.440 don't take the bait. Don't take the bait like they're 0:09:53.480 --> 0:09:55.720 trying to do it like they're trying to get a 0:09:55.760 --> 0:09:56.560 reaction out of me. 0:09:56.679 --> 0:09:58.320 But sometimes it's also like you have to put your 0:09:58.320 --> 0:10:01.679 foot down and be like, oh, you can't stand up, 0:10:02.320 --> 0:10:02.920 Like that's not. 0:10:02.920 --> 0:10:05.920 A way, absolutely not. You know what you're doing. I'm 0:10:05.920 --> 0:10:07.960 not an idiot. I know what you're doing. You have 0:10:08.000 --> 0:10:14.679 to stop. Yeah. Yeah, anyway, you're a great mom. Thanks. Thanks. 0:10:14.880 --> 0:10:17.360 I do feel like I am the greatest mom, the 0:10:17.520 --> 0:10:18.439 number one you are. 0:10:18.880 --> 0:10:22.679 You're a great mom. We are all doing great. 0:10:22.840 --> 0:10:27.080 We are more better. 0:10:28.679 --> 0:10:31.760 What are we talking about to today, Melissa. It's totally unrelated. 0:10:32.600 --> 0:10:33.840 It's totally unrelated. 0:10:34.360 --> 0:10:38.000 Uh, we're talking about packing, getting more better at packing. 0:10:38.080 --> 0:10:40.360 And I'm excited because I feel like you are so 0:10:40.400 --> 0:10:41.520 good at packing. 0:10:42.000 --> 0:10:43.480 And I have a lot of thought better. 0:10:44.280 --> 0:10:47.440 But I know and I'm That's why I'm excited. Please 0:10:47.559 --> 0:10:50.640 please tell how you became such a good packer, because 0:10:50.640 --> 0:10:51.959 you really are such a good packer. 0:10:52.000 --> 0:10:54.720 When you went to Europe? Was that the past summer. 0:10:56.760 --> 0:10:59.839 Last year to Italy? Maybe it was last year, Yeah, 0:10:59.840 --> 0:11:03.760 it was Italy trip. I remember texting or calling with 0:11:03.800 --> 0:11:05.800 you while you were packing, and you were showing you 0:11:05.880 --> 0:11:07.640 pictures of what you were packing, and it was so 0:11:07.880 --> 0:11:10.360 thoughtfully laid out. I was like, God, damn it, I 0:11:10.400 --> 0:11:11.439 need to learn how to do that. 0:11:13.760 --> 0:11:16.840 I mean, so to start, I would say, like I 0:11:16.840 --> 0:11:19.079 don't consider myself like a good packer. 0:11:19.840 --> 0:11:22.920 I will say that I enjoy the process of. 0:11:23.800 --> 0:11:28.320 Like I don't enjoy the leaving it to last minute 0:11:28.320 --> 0:11:30.760 and being like fuck, because like it's actually quite a 0:11:30.840 --> 0:11:34.760 big job to condense your wardrobe down to like don't 0:11:34.800 --> 0:11:37.360 underestimate it, right, Like it is quite a big deal 0:11:37.520 --> 0:11:40.120 to condense your wardrobe down to like a trip of 0:11:40.160 --> 0:11:41.160 like yeah. 0:11:41.000 --> 0:11:45.080 What you need, what you'll use, and. 0:11:45.080 --> 0:11:48.240 We can discuss, you know, the benefits. And like I 0:11:48.920 --> 0:11:53.840 hate checking bags. Sometimes I have to do it, but 0:11:53.920 --> 0:11:57.600 I really loathe doing it because it just makes me 0:11:57.760 --> 0:12:01.280 like nervous. It's like all fee into my anxious energy 0:12:01.320 --> 0:12:04.319 of I don't want to I don't want to lose 0:12:04.400 --> 0:12:07.240 the stuff that I am traveling with, especially if it's 0:12:07.240 --> 0:12:10.319 like for press or something like that, where like I 0:12:10.400 --> 0:12:13.600 have to show up and look, you know, represent like I. 0:12:13.760 --> 0:12:16.920 Represent the show you that because like especially for work 0:12:16.960 --> 0:12:19.840 stuff or like whenever you have to bring like a 0:12:19.880 --> 0:12:24.440 lot of makeup or hair products, like like how you 0:12:24.559 --> 0:12:27.079 have to check a bag, Well you. 0:12:27.480 --> 0:12:31.480 Do, and you don't like I always want so okay, 0:12:31.720 --> 0:12:39.160 so okay, I think for work stuff. Okay, this is 0:12:39.160 --> 0:12:41.440 such a big thought. But okay, let me give you 0:12:41.480 --> 0:12:44.760 this this example of like I used to be an overpacker. 0:12:44.800 --> 0:12:47.160 I would be like I need this, and I need 0:12:47.200 --> 0:12:48.480 this and I need this, and I would just like 0:12:48.520 --> 0:12:51.319 start throwing stuff in the suitcase and and like making 0:12:51.360 --> 0:12:53.080 up outfits in my mind and being like, oh, that'll 0:12:53.080 --> 0:12:55.680 look good, that'll look good, right, and then you're traveling 0:12:55.679 --> 0:12:59.360 with this ginormous suitcase. The first time I realized that 0:12:59.400 --> 0:13:02.000 this was a huge mistake was a trip that I 0:13:02.040 --> 0:13:07.240 took to Paris and luckily there was an elevator, but 0:13:07.520 --> 0:13:12.360 like getting the giant suitcase like out of the out 0:13:12.400 --> 0:13:15.920 of the airport into the train. I think I took 0:13:15.920 --> 0:13:18.079 the train to the airbnb that I was staying at, 0:13:18.120 --> 0:13:21.400 getting it up into the airbnb, getting it down. Then 0:13:21.520 --> 0:13:27.120 I took one of those like uh train, those fast 0:13:27.160 --> 0:13:32.440 trains to London or maybe it was vice versa nightmare 0:13:32.800 --> 0:13:36.360 nightmare struggling with this giant bag, like lifting it up 0:13:36.440 --> 0:13:38.200 onto the nightmare, total nightmare. 0:13:38.200 --> 0:13:41.440 I was like, something has to something has to change, right, So. 0:13:42.920 --> 0:13:50.079 To me, the perfect trip packing is a small carry 0:13:50.120 --> 0:13:56.360 on suitcase and a small not too heavy personal item, right, 0:13:56.400 --> 0:13:58.200 and I usually go for like a tote. I know 0:13:58.320 --> 0:14:02.560 people like backpacks, but like you, I can never. I 0:14:02.559 --> 0:14:05.559 can never ruin the line of my jacket or coat. 0:14:05.679 --> 0:14:11.800 Absolutely not, absolutely not. I like having everything. So like, 0:14:11.960 --> 0:14:13.760 let's say I'm going on a work trip, right, like, 0:14:14.480 --> 0:14:17.360 and I know I have to do press. I pack 0:14:17.440 --> 0:14:21.840 the press outfit in the carry on because that way 0:14:21.880 --> 0:14:24.760 I know I have it. Because that's the most stressful 0:14:24.760 --> 0:14:26.920 situation that I'm going to be in, and I know 0:14:27.040 --> 0:14:28.800 that I have it on me. I take all the 0:14:28.880 --> 0:14:32.280 jewelry and put it in my personal item. I've got 0:14:32.320 --> 0:14:34.560 everything with me. I'm not checking a bag and then 0:14:34.560 --> 0:14:37.600 going and then arriving in New York and being like fuck, 0:14:37.640 --> 0:14:39.840 I have to like shop for an outfit tonight because 0:14:39.840 --> 0:14:41.000 my bag didn't show up. 0:14:41.120 --> 0:14:44.120 That's a night, oh god night, man's yeah. 0:14:44.040 --> 0:14:48.000 A hell escape, right, But what I do know is 0:14:48.000 --> 0:14:50.080 that I'm probably gonna get hair and makeup done, so 0:14:50.160 --> 0:14:51.760 like I don't need to bring any of that stuff. 0:14:51.800 --> 0:14:53.480 Like how much makeup do I wear on a regular 0:14:53.520 --> 0:14:56.240 basis not very much, So like I pair that way 0:14:56.280 --> 0:15:01.160 way down. I caan't all my stuff into travel containers. 0:15:01.240 --> 0:15:03.720 Like or if I'm lucky enough to stay at a 0:15:03.800 --> 0:15:06.640 nice hotel, I don't even bring like shampoo and conditioner 0:15:07.160 --> 0:15:09.240 because I know that they'll have it at the hotel. 0:15:09.880 --> 0:15:12.200 There's like these little things that I have picked up. 0:15:12.240 --> 0:15:15.040 I have a tiny straightener. It's like this big instead 0:15:15.040 --> 0:15:19.680 of like a giant string. I definitely wear my biggest 0:15:19.720 --> 0:15:21.760 pair of shoes. So like that trip that we took 0:15:21.760 --> 0:15:24.960 to Austin that time, I wore my cowboy boots on 0:15:24.960 --> 0:15:26.320 the plane because I knew I was gonna want to 0:15:26.320 --> 0:15:28.480 wear them while I was there, so I wore them 0:15:28.600 --> 0:15:30.960 on the plane so that I didn't have all that 0:15:31.080 --> 0:15:34.000 space taken up in my bag. Also, the plane outfit 0:15:34.160 --> 0:15:37.200 is a whole nother thing, right, So we talk about 0:15:37.200 --> 0:15:38.040 outfits in the moment. 0:15:41.040 --> 0:15:44.520 But I feel like I use packing cubes. 0:15:44.760 --> 0:15:47.960 I do, but I don't swear by them. I think 0:15:47.960 --> 0:15:51.680 they're useful, But to me, I don't feel like you 0:15:51.760 --> 0:15:54.560 have to buy things to be a good packer. Like 0:15:54.600 --> 0:15:56.560 the internet will tell you like you need these ten 0:15:56.640 --> 0:15:59.320 things or whatever. There was an article in here like 0:15:59.360 --> 0:16:02.840 that's like travel and Leisure. I'm a professional packer. These 0:16:02.840 --> 0:16:05.320 are twelve genius hats for making your carry on bag lighter. 0:16:05.360 --> 0:16:07.800 It's like, yeah, if you have extra money to spend, 0:16:07.800 --> 0:16:11.160 you could do that, but like sometimes people don't write, 0:16:11.200 --> 0:16:13.520 Like I buy a set of packing cubes and like 0:16:13.600 --> 0:16:15.640 sometimes I use them, but I don't always use all 0:16:15.680 --> 0:16:16.000 of them. 0:16:16.120 --> 0:16:19.920 Yeah, I got the kind that have like the second zipper, 0:16:20.000 --> 0:16:21.320 so it can like compress. 0:16:21.960 --> 0:16:26.880 But do you compress your shit? Yeah? No, I don't 0:16:26.920 --> 0:16:27.240 do it. 0:16:27.280 --> 0:16:30.080 Why, Like I've tried, but it's like, well, that's the 0:16:30.120 --> 0:16:32.120 whole point of the packing cube is like you put 0:16:32.160 --> 0:16:34.160 stuff in it and then it's tidy, So like why 0:16:34.160 --> 0:16:36.800 would I like then try to compress it down and like. 0:16:37.000 --> 0:16:39.479 Because then it gives you like a little more space. 0:16:39.360 --> 0:16:42.560 Not really though, like it's incremental like increment, Like what 0:16:42.560 --> 0:16:44.320 are you going to fit in like that space? 0:16:44.400 --> 0:16:45.760 Like a pair of socks and underwear? 0:16:48.000 --> 0:16:52.280 I mean no, I feel like I fit like like 0:16:52.320 --> 0:16:55.200 a jacket, like a like a couple of jackets over 0:16:55.320 --> 0:16:59.280 my packing cubes because they were like pressed down and 0:16:59.320 --> 0:17:01.720 like it gave me space on top to like lay 0:17:01.760 --> 0:17:02.680 a few more things. 0:17:02.960 --> 0:17:04.639 Why are you traveling with so many jackets? Where are 0:17:04.640 --> 0:17:09.040 you going? Listen? I have anxiety? Okay, this is the problem. 0:17:10.160 --> 0:17:11.119 Here's the problem. 0:17:11.320 --> 0:17:14.560 Your anxiety is the problem. My anxiety is the problem. 0:17:14.680 --> 0:17:18.960 I think I've become slightly and well here's what I'm 0:17:19.000 --> 0:17:22.399 inconsistent with my overpacking or underpacking. I do both, Like 0:17:22.480 --> 0:17:24.880 my anxiety causes me to do both. Like I will 0:17:24.920 --> 0:17:27.720 overpack for a trip and then be like, great, there 0:17:27.800 --> 0:17:30.800 was literally six shirts that I didn't was that I 0:17:30.840 --> 0:17:33.320 did not need to bring. And then the next trip 0:17:33.320 --> 0:17:36.200 I'll underpack and be like, I'm fucking cold. Why didn't 0:17:36.200 --> 0:17:36.520 I break? 0:17:36.520 --> 0:17:38.720 Why didn't I bring? Or like a jacket? Like what's 0:17:38.760 --> 0:17:39.240 wrong with me? 0:17:41.920 --> 0:17:42.600 More? Better? 0:17:46.800 --> 0:17:47.440 More better? 0:17:48.040 --> 0:17:50.360 Yeah? Tell me your approach to outfits when you pack? 0:17:50.520 --> 0:17:53.600 What first of all? Start with? Like what you're gonna 0:17:53.680 --> 0:17:54.840 do while you're there? 0:17:55.000 --> 0:17:57.200 I always write down a list, and now I do 0:17:57.240 --> 0:17:58.760 it in my notes app, but like I write down 0:17:58.760 --> 0:18:01.879 a list of like okay, so like literally I'm going 0:18:01.960 --> 0:18:03.960 to use this trip that is coming up to give 0:18:03.960 --> 0:18:07.399 you an example of this greatest Paris. We're going to 0:18:07.400 --> 0:18:10.080 Paris for Lady Gaga because I'm insane and I love 0:18:10.080 --> 0:18:13.399 her so much. Oh my god, Now everyone's going to 0:18:13.440 --> 0:18:15.560 know where I'm am. But it's okay, Am I gonna 0:18:15.560 --> 0:18:19.240 tell you where I'm staying. So we depart the evening. 0:18:19.280 --> 0:18:22.879 We're flying overnight because Paris is a look flight away 0:18:22.880 --> 0:18:26.600 from La First we're taking a day trip out to 0:18:26.960 --> 0:18:31.679 Cole Maar and I believe Strausburg. Then Saturday we have 0:18:31.800 --> 0:18:34.840 free and then Monday we return. So like what am 0:18:34.840 --> 0:18:36.919 I doing on each of those days? And like what 0:18:37.040 --> 0:18:38.399 I wrote down is like I want to go to 0:18:38.440 --> 0:18:41.440 the Christmas market at the Tuileries Garden and have a 0:18:41.520 --> 0:18:44.000 drink at a cocktail bar. Then the next day I 0:18:44.040 --> 0:18:46.760 want to go and think I said, I want to 0:18:46.760 --> 0:18:50.840 go do like some shopping and wandering, and then we 0:18:50.920 --> 0:18:53.320 have the Gaga show that night. So like, already I'm 0:18:53.359 --> 0:18:57.320 like narrowing down what I'm doing each day, right, So 0:18:57.400 --> 0:18:59.840 then then once you start narrowing down where you're going 0:18:59.880 --> 0:19:01.840 to be, it's like, well, then what shoes. 0:19:01.520 --> 0:19:04.000 Are appropriate for these things? Yeah? 0:19:04.440 --> 0:19:07.240 What outfits are appropriate for these things? Like, well, I 0:19:07.280 --> 0:19:08.600 want to dress up for Gaga? 0:19:08.640 --> 0:19:08.920 Cool? 0:19:09.160 --> 0:19:11.160 So you want to dress up for Gaga. You don't 0:19:11.160 --> 0:19:14.480 want to wear your white sneakers for Gaga, right, your 0:19:14.960 --> 0:19:17.080 little white brook sneakers. You don't want to wear your 0:19:17.080 --> 0:19:18.159 book sneakers for Gaga? 0:19:18.240 --> 0:19:18.400 Right? 0:19:18.840 --> 0:19:22.480 So then you don't need to bring the brook sneakers. Actually, oh, 0:19:22.520 --> 0:19:23.960 but what if I want to work out? Oh, you've 0:19:24.000 --> 0:19:26.160 never worked out barefoot, You've never done yoga, you've never 0:19:26.160 --> 0:19:28.840 done like pilates in your room. Like what's your problem? 0:19:28.880 --> 0:19:31.840 Like why you need to bring the fair sneakers? Well, 0:19:31.880 --> 0:19:34.040 what if it rains? Like what if you're walking around 0:19:34.040 --> 0:19:37.560 the city, then wear your solomons, Like your solomons are waterproof, 0:19:38.440 --> 0:19:41.240 but your solomons aren't cute with every outfit? Too bad 0:19:41.240 --> 0:19:42.720 about it? Like, what do you want to do? You 0:19:42.720 --> 0:19:44.360 want to bring a pair of boots? Okay, then bring 0:19:44.359 --> 0:19:46.080 a pair of boots. But like, if you're gonna bring 0:19:46.119 --> 0:19:46.919 a pair of boots, you have to. 0:19:46.920 --> 0:19:48.800 Wear those boots on the plane. 0:19:48.840 --> 0:19:51.040 You also have to wear those boots to Gaga, and 0:19:51.080 --> 0:19:52.159 you're gonna have to wear those. 0:19:52.000 --> 0:19:54.359 Boots to cole Maar. So, like, which pair of boots 0:19:54.400 --> 0:19:54.919 are you bringing? 0:19:55.040 --> 0:19:57.600 Are they waterproof? Like really waterproof? Or would you rather 0:19:57.680 --> 0:19:59.960 just bring your solomons and like build outfits around yourself 0:20:00.800 --> 0:20:03.760 so you kind of start with the shoes. I try 0:20:03.760 --> 0:20:05.359 to start with the shoes because they take up so 0:20:05.440 --> 0:20:08.240 much space. And then also if you're traveling somewhere cold. 0:20:09.040 --> 0:20:11.400