1 00:00:00,960 --> 00:00:03,920 Speaker 1: For me, it's I'm a really good about charger For 2 00:00:03,960 --> 00:00:07,000 Speaker 1: some reason. Again, I think it's anxiety of like mostly 3 00:00:07,040 --> 00:00:09,680 Speaker 1: like my kids iPads, like rinning out of juice on 4 00:00:09,720 --> 00:00:10,160 Speaker 1: the plane. 5 00:00:13,320 --> 00:00:16,440 Speaker 2: So I'm like, I do not want to deal with that. 6 00:00:16,680 --> 00:00:19,320 Speaker 1: No, so I bring I'm always have chargers, and I 7 00:00:19,360 --> 00:00:22,600 Speaker 1: always have portable chargers too, like at least one or two. 8 00:00:22,680 --> 00:00:38,040 Speaker 3: More more, more Better, corner, a little more better, more 9 00:00:38,840 --> 00:00:39,360 Speaker 3: you start. 10 00:00:39,520 --> 00:00:42,080 Speaker 4: Welcome to More Better, a podcast where we stop pretending 11 00:00:42,120 --> 00:00:43,240 Speaker 4: to have it all together. 12 00:00:43,600 --> 00:00:46,080 Speaker 1: And embrace the journey of becoming a little more better 13 00:00:46,200 --> 00:00:48,559 Speaker 1: every day, or at least trying to. 14 00:00:48,680 --> 00:00:52,320 Speaker 2: That's most of Room Marrow, and that's Stephanie Beatrice. Hey girl, 15 00:00:52,320 --> 00:00:55,680 Speaker 2: what's going on? Hey girl? How you do it? 16 00:00:57,280 --> 00:01:03,279 Speaker 4: Heye girl, I'm fucking freezing. The weather change amazing, Oh 17 00:01:03,320 --> 00:01:05,600 Speaker 4: my god, I mean listen, Am I excited to get 18 00:01:05,600 --> 00:01:08,280 Speaker 4: my little layered out that's going Yes? Am I cuzying 19 00:01:08,360 --> 00:01:11,480 Speaker 4: in my apartment or my apartment, my office. Yes, I'm 20 00:01:11,520 --> 00:01:14,800 Speaker 4: fucking cool. I've busted out my old school Patagonia. 21 00:01:15,640 --> 00:01:18,680 Speaker 2: Yeah, it's sweat a weather. It's sweat a weather. 22 00:01:19,360 --> 00:01:22,200 Speaker 1: It's sweat a weather, and I am so excited about it. 23 00:01:22,280 --> 00:01:24,000 Speaker 1: I am done with the heat. 24 00:01:24,400 --> 00:01:26,759 Speaker 2: No more. Well, it is going to be eighty degrees 25 00:01:27,080 --> 00:01:28,119 Speaker 2: later today, I know. 26 00:01:28,319 --> 00:01:30,240 Speaker 1: It's gonna be No, We're probably gonna have like two 27 00:01:30,280 --> 00:01:34,080 Speaker 1: more fucking hot heat waves before the cool finally settle. 28 00:01:36,120 --> 00:01:38,200 Speaker 4: What sorry that I just yawned. I need to drink 29 00:01:38,200 --> 00:01:38,800 Speaker 4: more coffee. 30 00:01:38,840 --> 00:01:40,440 Speaker 2: What have you done lately? That's more better? 31 00:01:41,760 --> 00:01:41,840 Speaker 3: Well? 32 00:01:41,920 --> 00:01:44,919 Speaker 2: What have I done lately? That is more better? 33 00:01:45,080 --> 00:01:47,280 Speaker 1: I feel like I've been really stressed out the last 34 00:01:47,280 --> 00:01:50,200 Speaker 1: few weeks. Oh, and you know sometimes when you get 35 00:01:50,240 --> 00:01:53,000 Speaker 1: into these cycles of feeling overwhelmed and stressed out, but 36 00:01:53,080 --> 00:01:56,240 Speaker 1: you just kind of keep moving. So I'm trying to 37 00:01:56,320 --> 00:02:00,720 Speaker 1: be more better at like clocking. Oh, I feel overwhelmed 38 00:02:00,800 --> 00:02:03,280 Speaker 1: right now. I feel really stressed out. What can I 39 00:02:03,400 --> 00:02:06,320 Speaker 1: do about it in this moment instead of just like 40 00:02:06,920 --> 00:02:10,600 Speaker 1: trucking through, like just trying to be more conscious, whether 41 00:02:10,680 --> 00:02:13,320 Speaker 1: it's like I literally go to the bathroom and like 42 00:02:13,400 --> 00:02:17,040 Speaker 1: take five deep breaths, like the kind where you like 43 00:02:17,120 --> 00:02:20,440 Speaker 1: inhale for four, hold it for four, exhale for four. 44 00:02:21,000 --> 00:02:24,799 Speaker 1: Sometimes even just acknowledging it and just being like what 45 00:02:24,880 --> 00:02:25,440 Speaker 1: is it about? 46 00:02:25,560 --> 00:02:25,640 Speaker 4: What? 47 00:02:25,880 --> 00:02:28,520 Speaker 2: Oh? Look at me, I'm stressed, Yeah, look at me. 48 00:02:28,560 --> 00:02:29,520 Speaker 2: I feel really stressed out. 49 00:02:29,520 --> 00:02:32,440 Speaker 1: About Is it actually about anything or is it just 50 00:02:32,720 --> 00:02:36,160 Speaker 1: I don't know, a reaction to my kid playing the 51 00:02:36,200 --> 00:02:42,120 Speaker 1: trumpet too loud? You know, your kid lay their trumpet. Yeah, 52 00:02:42,200 --> 00:02:46,639 Speaker 1: and So started a band this year his school. It's 53 00:02:46,680 --> 00:02:51,639 Speaker 1: a great music program, and he wanted to do the drums, 54 00:02:51,720 --> 00:02:56,120 Speaker 1: but too many kids pick the drums. So we convinced 55 00:02:56,240 --> 00:02:58,560 Speaker 1: the music teacher emailed all the parents, was like, hey, 56 00:02:58,560 --> 00:03:01,280 Speaker 1: if you can get them excited about it the instrument. 57 00:03:01,360 --> 00:03:03,480 Speaker 1: I think he just didn't want like really upset kids 58 00:03:03,520 --> 00:03:08,520 Speaker 1: who couldn't play the drums. So, uh, David has a cousin, actually, 59 00:03:09,120 --> 00:03:12,120 Speaker 1: Quiso Fumero, who played with like Tito Puente, and he's 60 00:03:12,160 --> 00:03:16,120 Speaker 1: a trumpet player, professional trumpet player, and so we showed 61 00:03:16,200 --> 00:03:19,960 Speaker 1: him some videos of Quiso, and uh got him excited 62 00:03:19,960 --> 00:03:20,800 Speaker 1: about trumpet. 63 00:03:20,840 --> 00:03:23,880 Speaker 2: And I regret my decision. 64 00:03:25,080 --> 00:03:28,239 Speaker 4: Yeah yeah, yeah, yeah, that's. 65 00:03:28,240 --> 00:03:30,280 Speaker 2: Your own doing, dude, that's me. 66 00:03:30,600 --> 00:03:34,160 Speaker 1: It's my own doing. I think I thought that maybe 67 00:03:34,200 --> 00:03:39,320 Speaker 1: he would still get the drums, but oh, he's excited 68 00:03:39,360 --> 00:03:41,640 Speaker 1: about excited about that trumpet. 69 00:03:44,440 --> 00:03:47,480 Speaker 2: Yep. So but you know what, he's not bad, he's not. 70 00:03:47,560 --> 00:03:49,920 Speaker 1: I mean, he just started and like he's he's playing, 71 00:03:49,960 --> 00:03:52,720 Speaker 1: he's actually playing some notes. It's when he just blows 72 00:03:52,720 --> 00:03:56,240 Speaker 1: on it super hard and lowed to be funny that 73 00:03:56,960 --> 00:03:58,920 Speaker 1: oh yeah, yeah. 74 00:03:58,840 --> 00:04:01,520 Speaker 4: Yeah, sorry to this man. Sorry to this man that 75 00:04:01,560 --> 00:04:04,880 Speaker 4: you have a funny kid. What have you been doing lately? 76 00:04:05,560 --> 00:04:06,280 Speaker 2: That's more better. 77 00:04:07,200 --> 00:04:11,600 Speaker 4: I removed myself from the situation this morning when Roz 78 00:04:12,120 --> 00:04:16,719 Speaker 4: threw something at me and then kicked me. I oh, 79 00:04:16,760 --> 00:04:18,680 Speaker 4: I will say, I removed myself. 80 00:04:19,880 --> 00:04:21,159 Speaker 2: She ran into her room crying. 81 00:04:21,200 --> 00:04:22,800 Speaker 4: I was like, Rosaline, you know you're not allowed to 82 00:04:23,200 --> 00:04:26,200 Speaker 4: do that, to throw that at me, or actually I 83 00:04:26,240 --> 00:04:29,360 Speaker 4: was like ros Like I looked at her like whoa bitch? 84 00:04:29,440 --> 00:04:30,080 Speaker 2: Whoa fuck? 85 00:04:30,480 --> 00:04:30,640 Speaker 3: Yeah? 86 00:04:30,720 --> 00:04:33,320 Speaker 4: Yeah, And then she ran out of the room into 87 00:04:33,360 --> 00:04:35,680 Speaker 4: her bed and like put the covers over her head 88 00:04:35,680 --> 00:04:37,320 Speaker 4: and I was like I sat down and I like 89 00:04:37,480 --> 00:04:40,919 Speaker 4: gently touched her. I was like, hey, yeah, we don't care. 90 00:04:40,960 --> 00:04:44,640 Speaker 4: We don't throw things in our house. Yeah, And I 91 00:04:44,720 --> 00:04:47,760 Speaker 4: was going to continue my gentle parenting. And then she 92 00:04:47,880 --> 00:04:50,320 Speaker 4: fucking nailed me in the leg with her foot and 93 00:04:50,360 --> 00:04:54,000 Speaker 4: I was like Rosaline, you know, like I said her 94 00:04:54,000 --> 00:04:57,560 Speaker 4: full name, and I was like, we do not and 95 00:04:57,720 --> 00:05:00,320 Speaker 4: like I raised my voice like to not like I tell, 96 00:05:00,520 --> 00:05:01,640 Speaker 4: but like I was scary. 97 00:05:01,920 --> 00:05:03,440 Speaker 2: I was like low and scary. 98 00:05:03,800 --> 00:05:10,120 Speaker 4: You know, you rose a das her I did, and 99 00:05:10,160 --> 00:05:13,760 Speaker 4: it scared out of her and she cried for like, 100 00:05:14,040 --> 00:05:16,760 Speaker 4: I mean I left the room. I was like, I 101 00:05:16,839 --> 00:05:20,239 Speaker 4: laid it down. I left the room, yep. And uh 102 00:05:20,360 --> 00:05:25,640 Speaker 4: then I steamed my shirt in anger, and I steamed 103 00:05:25,640 --> 00:05:28,880 Speaker 4: another shirt. I have a steamer, guys. And then I 104 00:05:28,920 --> 00:05:31,120 Speaker 4: came back like about ten minutes later, and I was 105 00:05:31,120 --> 00:05:32,760 Speaker 4: really glad I left the room. But I was also 106 00:05:32,760 --> 00:05:35,240 Speaker 4: glad I wasn't. My mom used to do this thing, 107 00:05:35,440 --> 00:05:38,560 Speaker 4: and it's you know, we all deal with like all 108 00:05:38,600 --> 00:05:41,880 Speaker 4: of our familial trauma in different ways, but like my 109 00:05:41,920 --> 00:05:44,800 Speaker 4: mom used to do this thing where she would she 110 00:05:44,839 --> 00:05:49,400 Speaker 4: would like close up like remove her love from the room, 111 00:05:49,800 --> 00:05:53,400 Speaker 4: you know, remove herself and also remove her like and 112 00:05:53,440 --> 00:05:55,599 Speaker 4: so you'd be like, I'm sorry, I upset you, and 113 00:05:55,640 --> 00:05:59,120 Speaker 4: she'd be like cold dead to the world, like just 114 00:05:59,120 --> 00:06:03,720 Speaker 4: like a fucking garage door had come down. And there 115 00:06:03,800 --> 00:06:06,880 Speaker 4: was a moment where I felt like fucking fucked our kid. 116 00:06:06,880 --> 00:06:09,200 Speaker 2: But I didn't, yeah, remain in there. 117 00:06:09,600 --> 00:06:11,480 Speaker 4: I like went back in there and I was like, hey, 118 00:06:11,520 --> 00:06:13,800 Speaker 4: I'm ready to talk whenever you're ready, and like, honestly, 119 00:06:13,839 --> 00:06:15,440 Speaker 4: I didn't even say anything at first I just like 120 00:06:15,480 --> 00:06:17,240 Speaker 4: rubbed her back a little bit, and then she like 121 00:06:17,240 --> 00:06:19,000 Speaker 4: crawled into my lap and then we talked about it. 122 00:06:19,120 --> 00:06:22,000 Speaker 2: That was okay, okay, It's great. 123 00:06:23,200 --> 00:06:28,920 Speaker 4: Myself though, when I like when my voice like went like, here's. 124 00:06:28,680 --> 00:06:31,560 Speaker 2: My not going to get into like parenting things. 125 00:06:31,600 --> 00:06:34,240 Speaker 1: But my main beef with like and I think general 126 00:06:34,279 --> 00:06:38,040 Speaker 1: parentsing's great and I do it somewhat with my kids, 127 00:06:39,760 --> 00:06:42,240 Speaker 1: But the thing that my main beef with it is 128 00:06:42,400 --> 00:06:45,440 Speaker 1: I think it often makes parents feel like they failed 129 00:06:45,600 --> 00:06:48,600 Speaker 1: if they raise their voice or yell or lose control 130 00:06:48,760 --> 00:06:51,440 Speaker 1: or have feelings right, and at the end of the day, 131 00:06:51,640 --> 00:06:56,560 Speaker 1: that is unsustainable, that is impossible. We are also human beings. 132 00:06:56,839 --> 00:07:00,000 Speaker 1: Our kids are going to be fucking dicks, especially because 133 00:07:00,120 --> 00:07:03,000 Speaker 1: us we're raising them in this better, more empathetic, more 134 00:07:03,000 --> 00:07:07,720 Speaker 1: connected way. They feel safer, they feel sometimes like they 135 00:07:07,760 --> 00:07:11,360 Speaker 1: can do some ship and sometimes we're gonna lose it. 136 00:07:11,760 --> 00:07:14,720 Speaker 1: But we are human beings and it's important for them 137 00:07:14,760 --> 00:07:19,280 Speaker 1: to also see that their actions or choices have consequences 138 00:07:19,360 --> 00:07:22,760 Speaker 1: in like how it makes a person fucking feel sometimes 139 00:07:22,960 --> 00:07:26,880 Speaker 1: your actions have consequences, and like your actions consequences if 140 00:07:26,920 --> 00:07:29,560 Speaker 1: you choose to throw your little toy at me, and 141 00:07:29,600 --> 00:07:32,600 Speaker 1: then kick me in the leg, like I might get 142 00:07:32,640 --> 00:07:37,360 Speaker 1: really fucking upset because I'm a person and anybody something 143 00:07:37,400 --> 00:07:37,640 Speaker 1: that me. 144 00:07:37,960 --> 00:07:38,760 Speaker 2: Back the fuck up. 145 00:07:38,920 --> 00:07:42,120 Speaker 4: I'm gonna warn yes, like yes, bro, I'm laying it 146 00:07:42,160 --> 00:07:45,360 Speaker 4: down right now, like this is I'm drawing a line 147 00:07:45,360 --> 00:07:47,760 Speaker 4: in the sand, like you can't fool Like. 148 00:07:48,000 --> 00:07:52,880 Speaker 2: No, you can't like that, you cannot because that's. 149 00:07:52,680 --> 00:07:55,480 Speaker 4: Also the other thing is like again not not getting 150 00:07:55,560 --> 00:07:59,520 Speaker 4: too deep into the parenting world because heaven forbid, but 151 00:07:59,760 --> 00:08:03,360 Speaker 4: have verbid we do not like there are I mean 152 00:08:03,440 --> 00:08:05,280 Speaker 4: part of me teaching her like you can't throw a 153 00:08:05,280 --> 00:08:07,400 Speaker 4: shit at I mean, you can't kick kick me. Is 154 00:08:07,440 --> 00:08:10,400 Speaker 4: like you can't go out there in the real world 155 00:08:10,440 --> 00:08:14,119 Speaker 4: and be acting a fool because some other fool punch 156 00:08:14,200 --> 00:08:17,280 Speaker 4: you in the face. Like some other fools, the other 157 00:08:17,360 --> 00:08:19,160 Speaker 4: fool out in the world is not going to be 158 00:08:19,240 --> 00:08:22,280 Speaker 4: like oh I need you to not understand, like they 159 00:08:22,360 --> 00:08:26,360 Speaker 4: might hit you back, like you know, so I just 160 00:08:26,400 --> 00:08:31,400 Speaker 4: think that it's you know, I used to feel so 161 00:08:32,200 --> 00:08:39,839 Speaker 4: guilty when I would lose it. And you know, a therapist, 162 00:08:39,960 --> 00:08:43,320 Speaker 4: a child therapist that I very much respect, once told 163 00:08:43,320 --> 00:08:45,120 Speaker 4: me it was like you get to be a human being, 164 00:08:45,400 --> 00:08:47,800 Speaker 4: Like it's okay for your kids to see you're not perfect, 165 00:08:48,679 --> 00:08:50,640 Speaker 4: Like it's not very Actually. 166 00:08:50,480 --> 00:08:53,679 Speaker 1: It's necessary actually, like yes, as long as you're like 167 00:08:54,320 --> 00:08:58,600 Speaker 1: reconnecting and repairing after the thing that has happened, Like 168 00:08:59,280 --> 00:09:01,440 Speaker 1: that's actually the most important moment. 169 00:09:01,280 --> 00:09:01,560 Speaker 2: That's what. 170 00:09:01,840 --> 00:09:04,240 Speaker 4: That's what I'm saying. Like though, that's the part that 171 00:09:04,320 --> 00:09:05,160 Speaker 4: my mom would like. 172 00:09:06,280 --> 00:09:06,920 Speaker 2: Right right. 173 00:09:07,040 --> 00:09:09,040 Speaker 1: I think most of our parents, Yeah, I don't think 174 00:09:09,040 --> 00:09:13,360 Speaker 1: our parents knew, oh you know, to to do that 175 00:09:13,640 --> 00:09:17,480 Speaker 1: like connect and repair. Yeah, And then we're all adults 176 00:09:17,520 --> 00:09:20,520 Speaker 1: being like having a fucking hard time apologizing for shit 177 00:09:20,640 --> 00:09:23,520 Speaker 1: and like you know, or like having I don't I'm 178 00:09:23,559 --> 00:09:25,120 Speaker 1: messed up and I don't know how to talk about 179 00:09:25,160 --> 00:09:27,200 Speaker 1: it now, Like how do I fix this with my friend? 180 00:09:27,360 --> 00:09:32,920 Speaker 2: You know? So I think that's like the biggest thing 181 00:09:32,960 --> 00:09:35,520 Speaker 2: that we're giving our kids. But like, yeah, man, I 182 00:09:35,640 --> 00:09:36,719 Speaker 2: freaking are you kidding me? 183 00:09:36,760 --> 00:09:39,760 Speaker 1: I got two wild ass boys. I lose my shit 184 00:09:40,160 --> 00:09:44,560 Speaker 1: all the time. They fucking know how to get me 185 00:09:44,679 --> 00:09:47,559 Speaker 1: to the brink. Yeah, And I try not to give. 186 00:09:47,760 --> 00:09:48,280 Speaker 2: I try. 187 00:09:48,400 --> 00:09:51,400 Speaker 1: I have days where I'm really good because I'm also like, 188 00:09:51,440 --> 00:09:53,440 Speaker 1: don't take the bait. Don't take the bait like they're 189 00:09:53,480 --> 00:09:55,720 Speaker 1: trying to do it like they're trying to get a 190 00:09:55,760 --> 00:09:56,560 Speaker 1: reaction out of me. 191 00:09:56,679 --> 00:09:58,320 Speaker 4: But sometimes it's also like you have to put your 192 00:09:58,320 --> 00:10:01,679 Speaker 4: foot down and be like, oh, you can't stand up, 193 00:10:02,320 --> 00:10:02,920 Speaker 4: Like that's not. 194 00:10:02,920 --> 00:10:05,920 Speaker 2: A way, absolutely not. You know what you're doing. I'm 195 00:10:05,920 --> 00:10:07,960 Speaker 2: not an idiot. I know what you're doing. You have 196 00:10:08,000 --> 00:10:14,679 Speaker 2: to stop. Yeah. Yeah, anyway, you're a great mom. Thanks. Thanks. 197 00:10:14,880 --> 00:10:17,360 Speaker 4: I do feel like I am the greatest mom, the 198 00:10:17,520 --> 00:10:18,439 Speaker 4: number one you are. 199 00:10:18,880 --> 00:10:22,679 Speaker 1: You're a great mom. We are all doing great. 200 00:10:22,840 --> 00:10:27,080 Speaker 2: We are more better. 201 00:10:28,679 --> 00:10:31,760 Speaker 4: What are we talking about to today, Melissa. It's totally unrelated. 202 00:10:32,600 --> 00:10:33,840 Speaker 4: It's totally unrelated. 203 00:10:34,360 --> 00:10:38,000 Speaker 1: Uh, we're talking about packing, getting more better at packing. 204 00:10:38,080 --> 00:10:40,360 Speaker 1: And I'm excited because I feel like you are so 205 00:10:40,400 --> 00:10:41,520 Speaker 1: good at packing. 206 00:10:42,000 --> 00:10:43,480 Speaker 2: And I have a lot of thought better. 207 00:10:44,280 --> 00:10:47,440 Speaker 1: But I know and I'm That's why I'm excited. Please 208 00:10:47,559 --> 00:10:50,640 Speaker 1: please tell how you became such a good packer, because 209 00:10:50,640 --> 00:10:51,959 Speaker 1: you really are such a good packer. 210 00:10:52,000 --> 00:10:54,720 Speaker 2: When you went to Europe? Was that the past summer. 211 00:10:56,760 --> 00:10:59,839 Speaker 1: Last year to Italy? Maybe it was last year, Yeah, 212 00:10:59,840 --> 00:11:03,760 Speaker 1: it was Italy trip. I remember texting or calling with 213 00:11:03,800 --> 00:11:05,800 Speaker 1: you while you were packing, and you were showing you 214 00:11:05,880 --> 00:11:07,640 Speaker 1: pictures of what you were packing, and it was so 215 00:11:07,880 --> 00:11:10,360 Speaker 1: thoughtfully laid out. I was like, God, damn it, I 216 00:11:10,400 --> 00:11:11,439 Speaker 1: need to learn how to do that. 217 00:11:13,760 --> 00:11:16,840 Speaker 4: I mean, so to start, I would say, like I 218 00:11:16,840 --> 00:11:19,079 Speaker 4: don't consider myself like a good packer. 219 00:11:19,840 --> 00:11:22,920 Speaker 2: I will say that I enjoy the process of. 220 00:11:23,800 --> 00:11:28,320 Speaker 4: Like I don't enjoy the leaving it to last minute 221 00:11:28,320 --> 00:11:30,760 Speaker 4: and being like fuck, because like it's actually quite a 222 00:11:30,840 --> 00:11:34,760 Speaker 4: big job to condense your wardrobe down to like don't 223 00:11:34,800 --> 00:11:37,360 Speaker 4: underestimate it, right, Like it is quite a big deal 224 00:11:37,520 --> 00:11:40,120 Speaker 4: to condense your wardrobe down to like a trip of 225 00:11:40,160 --> 00:11:41,160 Speaker 4: like yeah. 226 00:11:41,000 --> 00:11:45,080 Speaker 2: What you need, what you'll use, and. 227 00:11:45,080 --> 00:11:48,240 Speaker 4: We can discuss, you know, the benefits. And like I 228 00:11:48,920 --> 00:11:53,840 Speaker 4: hate checking bags. Sometimes I have to do it, but 229 00:11:53,920 --> 00:11:57,600 Speaker 4: I really loathe doing it because it just makes me 230 00:11:57,760 --> 00:12:01,280 Speaker 4: like nervous. It's like all fee into my anxious energy 231 00:12:01,320 --> 00:12:04,319 Speaker 4: of I don't want to I don't want to lose 232 00:12:04,400 --> 00:12:07,240 Speaker 4: the stuff that I am traveling with, especially if it's 233 00:12:07,240 --> 00:12:10,319 Speaker 4: like for press or something like that, where like I 234 00:12:10,400 --> 00:12:13,600 Speaker 4: have to show up and look, you know, represent like I. 235 00:12:13,760 --> 00:12:16,920 Speaker 1: Represent the show you that because like especially for work 236 00:12:16,960 --> 00:12:19,840 Speaker 1: stuff or like whenever you have to bring like a 237 00:12:19,880 --> 00:12:24,440 Speaker 1: lot of makeup or hair products, like like how you 238 00:12:24,559 --> 00:12:27,079 Speaker 1: have to check a bag, Well you. 239 00:12:27,480 --> 00:12:31,480 Speaker 4: Do, and you don't like I always want so okay, 240 00:12:31,720 --> 00:12:39,160 Speaker 4: so okay, I think for work stuff. Okay, this is 241 00:12:39,160 --> 00:12:41,440 Speaker 4: such a big thought. But okay, let me give you 242 00:12:41,480 --> 00:12:44,760 Speaker 4: this this example of like I used to be an overpacker. 243 00:12:44,800 --> 00:12:47,160 Speaker 4: I would be like I need this, and I need 244 00:12:47,200 --> 00:12:48,480 Speaker 4: this and I need this, and I would just like 245 00:12:48,520 --> 00:12:51,319 Speaker 4: start throwing stuff in the suitcase and and like making 246 00:12:51,360 --> 00:12:53,080 Speaker 4: up outfits in my mind and being like, oh, that'll 247 00:12:53,080 --> 00:12:55,680 Speaker 4: look good, that'll look good, right, and then you're traveling 248 00:12:55,679 --> 00:12:59,360 Speaker 4: with this ginormous suitcase. The first time I realized that 249 00:12:59,400 --> 00:13:02,000 Speaker 4: this was a huge mistake was a trip that I 250 00:13:02,040 --> 00:13:07,240 Speaker 4: took to Paris and luckily there was an elevator, but 251 00:13:07,520 --> 00:13:12,360 Speaker 4: like getting the giant suitcase like out of the out 252 00:13:12,400 --> 00:13:15,920 Speaker 4: of the airport into the train. I think I took 253 00:13:15,920 --> 00:13:18,079 Speaker 4: the train to the airbnb that I was staying at, 254 00:13:18,120 --> 00:13:21,400 Speaker 4: getting it up into the airbnb, getting it down. Then 255 00:13:21,520 --> 00:13:27,120 Speaker 4: I took one of those like uh train, those fast 256 00:13:27,160 --> 00:13:32,440 Speaker 4: trains to London or maybe it was vice versa nightmare 257 00:13:32,800 --> 00:13:36,360 Speaker 4: nightmare struggling with this giant bag, like lifting it up 258 00:13:36,440 --> 00:13:38,200 Speaker 4: onto the nightmare, total nightmare. 259 00:13:38,200 --> 00:13:41,440 Speaker 2: I was like, something has to something has to change, right, So. 260 00:13:42,920 --> 00:13:50,079 Speaker 4: To me, the perfect trip packing is a small carry 261 00:13:50,120 --> 00:13:56,360 Speaker 4: on suitcase and a small not too heavy personal item, right, 262 00:13:56,400 --> 00:13:58,200 Speaker 4: and I usually go for like a tote. I know 263 00:13:58,320 --> 00:14:02,560 Speaker 4: people like backpacks, but like you, I can never. I 264 00:14:02,559 --> 00:14:05,559 Speaker 4: can never ruin the line of my jacket or coat. 265 00:14:05,679 --> 00:14:11,800 Speaker 4: Absolutely not, absolutely not. I like having everything. So like, 266 00:14:11,960 --> 00:14:13,760 Speaker 4: let's say I'm going on a work trip, right, like, 267 00:14:14,480 --> 00:14:17,360 Speaker 4: and I know I have to do press. I pack 268 00:14:17,440 --> 00:14:21,840 Speaker 4: the press outfit in the carry on because that way 269 00:14:21,880 --> 00:14:24,760 Speaker 4: I know I have it. Because that's the most stressful 270 00:14:24,760 --> 00:14:26,920 Speaker 4: situation that I'm going to be in, and I know 271 00:14:27,040 --> 00:14:28,800 Speaker 4: that I have it on me. I take all the 272 00:14:28,880 --> 00:14:32,280 Speaker 4: jewelry and put it in my personal item. I've got 273 00:14:32,320 --> 00:14:34,560 Speaker 4: everything with me. I'm not checking a bag and then 274 00:14:34,560 --> 00:14:37,600 Speaker 4: going and then arriving in New York and being like fuck, 275 00:14:37,640 --> 00:14:39,840 Speaker 4: I have to like shop for an outfit tonight because 276 00:14:39,840 --> 00:14:41,000 Speaker 4: my bag didn't show up. 277 00:14:41,120 --> 00:14:44,120 Speaker 2: That's a night, oh god night, man's yeah. 278 00:14:44,040 --> 00:14:48,000 Speaker 4: A hell escape, right, But what I do know is 279 00:14:48,000 --> 00:14:50,080 Speaker 4: that I'm probably gonna get hair and makeup done, so 280 00:14:50,160 --> 00:14:51,760 Speaker 4: like I don't need to bring any of that stuff. 281 00:14:51,800 --> 00:14:53,480 Speaker 4: Like how much makeup do I wear on a regular 282 00:14:53,520 --> 00:14:56,240 Speaker 4: basis not very much, So like I pair that way 283 00:14:56,280 --> 00:15:01,160 Speaker 4: way down. I caan't all my stuff into travel containers. 284 00:15:01,240 --> 00:15:03,720 Speaker 4: Like or if I'm lucky enough to stay at a 285 00:15:03,800 --> 00:15:06,640 Speaker 4: nice hotel, I don't even bring like shampoo and conditioner 286 00:15:07,160 --> 00:15:09,240 Speaker 4: because I know that they'll have it at the hotel. 287 00:15:09,880 --> 00:15:12,200 Speaker 4: There's like these little things that I have picked up. 288 00:15:12,240 --> 00:15:15,040 Speaker 4: I have a tiny straightener. It's like this big instead 289 00:15:15,040 --> 00:15:19,680 Speaker 4: of like a giant string. I definitely wear my biggest 290 00:15:19,720 --> 00:15:21,760 Speaker 4: pair of shoes. So like that trip that we took 291 00:15:21,760 --> 00:15:24,960 Speaker 4: to Austin that time, I wore my cowboy boots on 292 00:15:24,960 --> 00:15:26,320 Speaker 4: the plane because I knew I was gonna want to 293 00:15:26,320 --> 00:15:28,480 Speaker 4: wear them while I was there, so I wore them 294 00:15:28,600 --> 00:15:30,960 Speaker 4: on the plane so that I didn't have all that 295 00:15:31,080 --> 00:15:34,000 Speaker 4: space taken up in my bag. Also, the plane outfit 296 00:15:34,160 --> 00:15:37,200 Speaker 4: is a whole nother thing, right, So we talk about 297 00:15:37,200 --> 00:15:38,040 Speaker 4: outfits in the moment. 298 00:15:41,040 --> 00:15:44,520 Speaker 2: But I feel like I use packing cubes. 299 00:15:44,760 --> 00:15:47,960 Speaker 4: I do, but I don't swear by them. I think 300 00:15:47,960 --> 00:15:51,680 Speaker 4: they're useful, But to me, I don't feel like you 301 00:15:51,760 --> 00:15:54,560 Speaker 4: have to buy things to be a good packer. Like 302 00:15:54,600 --> 00:15:56,560 Speaker 4: the internet will tell you like you need these ten 303 00:15:56,640 --> 00:15:59,320 Speaker 4: things or whatever. There was an article in here like 304 00:15:59,360 --> 00:16:02,840 Speaker 4: that's like travel and Leisure. I'm a professional packer. These 305 00:16:02,840 --> 00:16:05,320 Speaker 4: are twelve genius hats for making your carry on bag lighter. 306 00:16:05,360 --> 00:16:07,800 Speaker 4: It's like, yeah, if you have extra money to spend, 307 00:16:07,800 --> 00:16:11,160 Speaker 4: you could do that, but like sometimes people don't write, 308 00:16:11,200 --> 00:16:13,520 Speaker 4: Like I buy a set of packing cubes and like 309 00:16:13,600 --> 00:16:15,640 Speaker 4: sometimes I use them, but I don't always use all 310 00:16:15,680 --> 00:16:16,000 Speaker 4: of them. 311 00:16:16,120 --> 00:16:19,920 Speaker 1: Yeah, I got the kind that have like the second zipper, 312 00:16:20,000 --> 00:16:21,320 Speaker 1: so it can like compress. 313 00:16:21,960 --> 00:16:26,880 Speaker 2: But do you compress your shit? Yeah? No, I don't 314 00:16:26,920 --> 00:16:27,240 Speaker 2: do it. 315 00:16:27,280 --> 00:16:30,080 Speaker 4: Why, Like I've tried, but it's like, well, that's the 316 00:16:30,120 --> 00:16:32,120 Speaker 4: whole point of the packing cube is like you put 317 00:16:32,160 --> 00:16:34,160 Speaker 4: stuff in it and then it's tidy, So like why 318 00:16:34,160 --> 00:16:36,800 Speaker 4: would I like then try to compress it down and like. 319 00:16:37,000 --> 00:16:39,479 Speaker 2: Because then it gives you like a little more space. 320 00:16:39,360 --> 00:16:42,560 Speaker 4: Not really though, like it's incremental like increment, Like what 321 00:16:42,560 --> 00:16:44,320 Speaker 4: are you going to fit in like that space? 322 00:16:44,400 --> 00:16:45,760 Speaker 2: Like a pair of socks and underwear? 323 00:16:48,000 --> 00:16:52,280 Speaker 1: I mean no, I feel like I fit like like 324 00:16:52,320 --> 00:16:55,200 Speaker 1: a jacket, like a like a couple of jackets over 325 00:16:55,320 --> 00:16:59,280 Speaker 1: my packing cubes because they were like pressed down and 326 00:16:59,320 --> 00:17:01,720 Speaker 1: like it gave me space on top to like lay 327 00:17:01,760 --> 00:17:02,680 Speaker 1: a few more things. 328 00:17:02,960 --> 00:17:04,639 Speaker 2: Why are you traveling with so many jackets? Where are 329 00:17:04,640 --> 00:17:09,040 Speaker 2: you going? Listen? I have anxiety? Okay, this is the problem. 330 00:17:10,160 --> 00:17:11,119 Speaker 2: Here's the problem. 331 00:17:11,320 --> 00:17:14,560 Speaker 1: Your anxiety is the problem. My anxiety is the problem. 332 00:17:14,680 --> 00:17:18,960 Speaker 1: I think I've become slightly and well here's what I'm 333 00:17:19,000 --> 00:17:22,399 Speaker 1: inconsistent with my overpacking or underpacking. I do both, Like 334 00:17:22,480 --> 00:17:24,880 Speaker 1: my anxiety causes me to do both. Like I will 335 00:17:24,920 --> 00:17:27,720 Speaker 1: overpack for a trip and then be like, great, there 336 00:17:27,800 --> 00:17:30,800 Speaker 1: was literally six shirts that I didn't was that I 337 00:17:30,840 --> 00:17:33,320 Speaker 1: did not need to bring. And then the next trip 338 00:17:33,320 --> 00:17:36,200 Speaker 1: I'll underpack and be like, I'm fucking cold. Why didn't 339 00:17:36,200 --> 00:17:36,520 Speaker 1: I break? 340 00:17:36,520 --> 00:17:38,720 Speaker 2: Why didn't I bring? Or like a jacket? Like what's 341 00:17:38,760 --> 00:17:39,240 Speaker 2: wrong with me? 342 00:17:41,920 --> 00:17:42,600 Speaker 4: More? Better? 343 00:17:46,800 --> 00:17:47,440 Speaker 3: More better? 344 00:17:48,040 --> 00:17:50,360 Speaker 2: Yeah? Tell me your approach to outfits when you pack? 345 00:17:50,520 --> 00:17:53,600 Speaker 2: What first of all? Start with? Like what you're gonna 346 00:17:53,680 --> 00:17:54,840 Speaker 2: do while you're there? 347 00:17:55,000 --> 00:17:57,200 Speaker 4: I always write down a list, and now I do 348 00:17:57,240 --> 00:17:58,760 Speaker 4: it in my notes app, but like I write down 349 00:17:58,760 --> 00:18:01,879 Speaker 4: a list of like okay, so like literally I'm going 350 00:18:01,960 --> 00:18:03,960 Speaker 4: to use this trip that is coming up to give 351 00:18:03,960 --> 00:18:07,399 Speaker 4: you an example of this greatest Paris. We're going to 352 00:18:07,400 --> 00:18:10,080 Speaker 4: Paris for Lady Gaga because I'm insane and I love 353 00:18:10,080 --> 00:18:13,399 Speaker 4: her so much. Oh my god, Now everyone's going to 354 00:18:13,440 --> 00:18:15,560 Speaker 4: know where I'm am. But it's okay, Am I gonna 355 00:18:15,560 --> 00:18:19,240 Speaker 4: tell you where I'm staying. So we depart the evening. 356 00:18:19,280 --> 00:18:22,879 Speaker 4: We're flying overnight because Paris is a look flight away 357 00:18:22,880 --> 00:18:26,600 Speaker 4: from La First we're taking a day trip out to 358 00:18:26,960 --> 00:18:31,679 Speaker 4: Cole Maar and I believe Strausburg. Then Saturday we have 359 00:18:31,800 --> 00:18:34,840 Speaker 4: free and then Monday we return. So like what am 360 00:18:34,840 --> 00:18:36,919 Speaker 4: I doing on each of those days? And like what 361 00:18:37,040 --> 00:18:38,399 Speaker 4: I wrote down is like I want to go to 362 00:18:38,440 --> 00:18:41,440 Speaker 4: the Christmas market at the Tuileries Garden and have a 363 00:18:41,520 --> 00:18:44,000 Speaker 4: drink at a cocktail bar. Then the next day I 364 00:18:44,040 --> 00:18:46,760 Speaker 4: want to go and think I said, I want to 365 00:18:46,760 --> 00:18:50,840 Speaker 4: go do like some shopping and wandering, and then we 366 00:18:50,920 --> 00:18:53,320 Speaker 4: have the Gaga show that night. So like, already I'm 367 00:18:53,359 --> 00:18:57,320 Speaker 4: like narrowing down what I'm doing each day, right, So 368 00:18:57,400 --> 00:18:59,840 Speaker 4: then then once you start narrowing down where you're going 369 00:18:59,880 --> 00:19:01,840 Speaker 4: to be, it's like, well, then what shoes. 370 00:19:01,520 --> 00:19:04,000 Speaker 2: Are appropriate for these things? Yeah? 371 00:19:04,440 --> 00:19:07,240 Speaker 4: What outfits are appropriate for these things? Like, well, I 372 00:19:07,280 --> 00:19:08,600 Speaker 4: want to dress up for Gaga? 373 00:19:08,640 --> 00:19:08,920 Speaker 2: Cool? 374 00:19:09,160 --> 00:19:11,160 Speaker 4: So you want to dress up for Gaga. You don't 375 00:19:11,160 --> 00:19:14,480 Speaker 4: want to wear your white sneakers for Gaga, right, your 376 00:19:14,960 --> 00:19:17,080 Speaker 4: little white brook sneakers. You don't want to wear your 377 00:19:17,080 --> 00:19:18,159 Speaker 4: book sneakers for Gaga? 378 00:19:18,240 --> 00:19:18,400 Speaker 2: Right? 379 00:19:18,840 --> 00:19:22,480 Speaker 4: So then you don't need to bring the brook sneakers. Actually, oh, 380 00:19:22,520 --> 00:19:23,960 Speaker 4: but what if I want to work out? Oh, you've 381 00:19:24,000 --> 00:19:26,160 Speaker 4: never worked out barefoot, You've never done yoga, you've never 382 00:19:26,160 --> 00:19:28,840 Speaker 4: done like pilates in your room. Like what's your problem? 383 00:19:28,880 --> 00:19:31,840 Speaker 4: Like why you need to bring the fair sneakers? Well, 384 00:19:31,880 --> 00:19:34,040 Speaker 4: what if it rains? Like what if you're walking around 385 00:19:34,040 --> 00:19:37,560 Speaker 4: the city, then wear your solomons, Like your solomons are waterproof, 386 00:19:38,440 --> 00:19:41,240 Speaker 4: but your solomons aren't cute with every outfit? Too bad 387 00:19:41,240 --> 00:19:42,720 Speaker 4: about it? Like, what do you want to do? You 388 00:19:42,720 --> 00:19:44,360 Speaker 4: want to bring a pair of boots? Okay, then bring 389 00:19:44,359 --> 00:19:46,080 Speaker 4: a pair of boots. But like, if you're gonna bring 390 00:19:46,119 --> 00:19:46,919 Speaker 4: a pair of boots, you have to. 391 00:19:46,920 --> 00:19:48,800 Speaker 2: Wear those boots on the plane. 392 00:19:48,840 --> 00:19:51,040 Speaker 4: You also have to wear those boots to Gaga, and 393 00:19:51,080 --> 00:19:52,159 Speaker 4: you're gonna have to wear those. 394 00:19:52,000 --> 00:19:54,359 Speaker 2: Boots to cole Maar. So, like, which pair of boots 395 00:19:54,400 --> 00:19:54,919 Speaker 2: are you bringing? 396 00:19:55,040 --> 00:19:57,600 Speaker 4: Are they waterproof? Like really waterproof? Or would you rather 397 00:19:57,680 --> 00:19:59,960 Speaker 4: just bring your solomons and like build outfits around yourself 398 00:20:00,800 --> 00:20:03,760 Speaker 4: so you kind of start with the shoes. I try 399 00:20:03,760 --> 00:20:05,359 Speaker 4: to start with the shoes because they take up so 400 00:20:05,440 --> 00:20:08,240 Speaker 4: much space. And then also if you're traveling somewhere cold. 401 00:20:09,040 --> 00:20:11,400 Speaker 4: I want to also start with the jacket because like, 402 00:20:11,800 --> 00:20:14,000 Speaker 4: and now here's here's where it's going to get tricky 403 00:20:14,040 --> 00:20:17,320 Speaker 4: for Paris, because what I want to do is bring 404 00:20:18,200 --> 00:20:22,600 Speaker 4: my leather cool black trench coat that's like vintage that 405 00:20:22,640 --> 00:20:23,880 Speaker 4: I bought the last time I'm there. 406 00:20:23,960 --> 00:20:27,680 Speaker 2: I was there. Oh, but I can't pack that trench coat. 407 00:20:28,600 --> 00:20:34,280 Speaker 4: So I could pack it in a checked bag, but 408 00:20:34,320 --> 00:20:38,159 Speaker 4: then I'm risking losing it. Yeah, I could wear it 409 00:20:38,200 --> 00:20:40,560 Speaker 4: on the plane, or I could pack it in my 410 00:20:41,000 --> 00:20:42,720 Speaker 4: carry on. If I pack it in my carry on, 411 00:20:42,920 --> 00:20:44,960 Speaker 4: it's going to be too crowded in there. So I 412 00:20:44,960 --> 00:20:47,720 Speaker 4: could wear it on a plane. No, that's stupid, right, 413 00:20:48,119 --> 00:20:50,639 Speaker 4: You never want to pack a jacket. 414 00:20:50,000 --> 00:20:51,800 Speaker 2: In your like a big jacket. 415 00:20:51,840 --> 00:20:54,840 Speaker 4: That's a terrible idea, right, So then I have to 416 00:20:54,880 --> 00:20:56,680 Speaker 4: wear it on the plane or pack it in the 417 00:20:56,760 --> 00:20:59,640 Speaker 4: checked pluggage. But if I wear it on the plane, 418 00:21:00,640 --> 00:21:04,720 Speaker 4: that means that that's probably my only jacket that I'm bringing, 419 00:21:04,800 --> 00:21:07,800 Speaker 4: unless I pack one in the unless I check one 420 00:21:07,880 --> 00:21:08,320 Speaker 4: as well. 421 00:21:08,400 --> 00:21:09,760 Speaker 2: So it's like then it gets tricky. 422 00:21:09,800 --> 00:21:13,160 Speaker 4: It's like, because you want to wear your heaviest jacket 423 00:21:13,400 --> 00:21:15,120 Speaker 4: onto the plane if you want to. 424 00:21:15,119 --> 00:21:17,280 Speaker 2: Like and you want a layer for the plane. 425 00:21:17,400 --> 00:21:21,040 Speaker 4: Also, like you want to wear like cute totally, I 426 00:21:21,119 --> 00:21:23,280 Speaker 4: never wear I'm not a fan of I get. 427 00:21:23,119 --> 00:21:25,720 Speaker 2: Hot and cold on every plane. 428 00:21:26,000 --> 00:21:28,960 Speaker 4: Also, like, if you're gonna wear sweatpants on the plane, 429 00:21:29,000 --> 00:21:31,600 Speaker 4: like cool, but they need to be sweatpants either that 430 00:21:31,640 --> 00:21:33,159 Speaker 4: you're going to sleep in for the rest of your 431 00:21:33,160 --> 00:21:37,199 Speaker 4: trip or that you are comfortable wearing out, Like you 432 00:21:37,320 --> 00:21:41,600 Speaker 4: need to style those sweatpants to the nines because why 433 00:21:41,640 --> 00:21:42,720 Speaker 4: are you wearing pants? 434 00:21:42,760 --> 00:21:45,680 Speaker 2: Okay, wait, wait, here's my here's my problem. Though. 435 00:21:45,720 --> 00:21:47,959 Speaker 1: If I'm wearing sweats on the plane and it's a 436 00:21:48,000 --> 00:21:51,360 Speaker 1: long ass plane flight like that, I feel like, are 437 00:21:51,400 --> 00:21:53,919 Speaker 1: you getting them laundered like when you arrive you. 438 00:21:55,880 --> 00:21:59,240 Speaker 2: Okay, Okay, that's great, that's gross. 439 00:21:59,640 --> 00:22:01,720 Speaker 1: Like anything you wear on a plane, I feel like 440 00:22:01,920 --> 00:22:03,880 Speaker 1: not wearing again and thus it gets warm. 441 00:22:03,960 --> 00:22:06,840 Speaker 2: Well, I mean, I'll wear like jeans again unless it's 442 00:22:06,840 --> 00:22:07,320 Speaker 2: like jeans. 443 00:22:07,440 --> 00:22:09,399 Speaker 4: Yeah, I war my jeans a million times, right, So 444 00:22:09,560 --> 00:22:12,000 Speaker 4: like to me, I don't yeah. 445 00:22:12,160 --> 00:22:13,800 Speaker 2: To me, I'll like either wear. 446 00:22:15,160 --> 00:22:18,639 Speaker 4: I'll either wear like black sweats that are like a 447 00:22:18,640 --> 00:22:21,520 Speaker 4: little bit chicer, that have like an interesting shape or something. 448 00:22:22,359 --> 00:22:23,800 Speaker 2: I'll wear those on the plane. 449 00:22:23,560 --> 00:22:25,360 Speaker 4: Because I can wear those like I can like make 450 00:22:25,400 --> 00:22:28,480 Speaker 4: them look like an outfit. Or I'll wear hard pants, 451 00:22:28,920 --> 00:22:32,200 Speaker 4: hard pants, jeans, pants, whatever that I can wear again 452 00:22:32,240 --> 00:22:37,320 Speaker 4: on the trip. Yeah, or for a long haul flight, 453 00:22:37,520 --> 00:22:39,960 Speaker 4: I'll wear hard pants, and then I'll just bring like 454 00:22:40,000 --> 00:22:42,800 Speaker 4: a tiny pair of leggings in my carry on so 455 00:22:42,840 --> 00:22:45,480 Speaker 4: I can just whip them out and change. Yeah, that's 456 00:22:45,520 --> 00:22:49,680 Speaker 4: my favorite thing to do because like then you're super comfy. 457 00:22:49,800 --> 00:22:51,960 Speaker 4: You sleep in your leggings and then you can change 458 00:22:52,000 --> 00:22:53,840 Speaker 4: back into the hardpants when you arrive. If you have to, 459 00:22:53,880 --> 00:22:55,880 Speaker 4: like check in your hotel and then go somewhere, that's 460 00:22:55,880 --> 00:22:59,720 Speaker 4: a smart Yeah. I love to bring, but they have 461 00:22:59,760 --> 00:23:01,639 Speaker 4: to be thin leggings. You don't want a pair of 462 00:23:01,680 --> 00:23:02,560 Speaker 4: sweatpants in your. 463 00:23:02,440 --> 00:23:03,439 Speaker 2: Carry on, right like that? 464 00:23:03,600 --> 00:23:06,440 Speaker 4: Or no, no, yeah, something you can roll up real tiny, yeah, 465 00:23:06,520 --> 00:23:13,359 Speaker 4: tiny tiny. I feel also that I one of the 466 00:23:13,359 --> 00:23:16,600 Speaker 4: things that I really enjoy, and this might be part 467 00:23:16,640 --> 00:23:20,720 Speaker 4: of why you don't always feel like you've succeeded when 468 00:23:20,760 --> 00:23:25,040 Speaker 4: you pack, is that you have to try on outfits. 469 00:23:25,560 --> 00:23:26,040 Speaker 2: You have to. 470 00:23:26,720 --> 00:23:30,680 Speaker 4: You have to give yourself a little time to try 471 00:23:30,720 --> 00:23:33,280 Speaker 4: on outfits because the outfits in your head sometimes are 472 00:23:33,320 --> 00:23:35,399 Speaker 4: not they not hitting. 473 00:23:36,000 --> 00:23:39,320 Speaker 2: They're not hitting you know what you're so right. 474 00:23:39,359 --> 00:23:41,080 Speaker 1: I did that for when we went to New York 475 00:23:41,119 --> 00:23:44,600 Speaker 1: and we went for a long weekend, and you're right, 476 00:23:44,720 --> 00:23:47,600 Speaker 1: And I actually didn't even realize, but I kind of 477 00:23:47,600 --> 00:23:50,119 Speaker 1: did what you were just describing because I knew we 478 00:23:50,119 --> 00:23:52,160 Speaker 1: were going to be walking all day. We're doing statch 479 00:23:52,160 --> 00:23:54,440 Speaker 1: of Liberty this day, We're going up to Harlem this day, 480 00:23:54,600 --> 00:23:56,800 Speaker 1: Like you know, I knew it was going to be hot, 481 00:23:56,880 --> 00:23:59,440 Speaker 1: and I did. And my friend came over and I 482 00:23:59,520 --> 00:24:02,879 Speaker 1: did try on outfits and she helped me put together. 483 00:24:03,040 --> 00:24:05,080 Speaker 2: And I think I packed one. 484 00:24:04,880 --> 00:24:07,480 Speaker 1: Extra outfit that I didn't end up wearing, but it 485 00:24:07,560 --> 00:24:09,600 Speaker 1: was like in case we go back to the hotel 486 00:24:09,680 --> 00:24:12,760 Speaker 1: and shower and then like go to dinner, so I 487 00:24:12,800 --> 00:24:14,280 Speaker 1: had a spare outfit in there. 488 00:24:14,359 --> 00:24:16,639 Speaker 2: But yeah, I wore all my outfits and they all. 489 00:24:16,400 --> 00:24:19,560 Speaker 1: Like worked like little skirts with sneakers, and it looked 490 00:24:19,600 --> 00:24:22,840 Speaker 1: cute and it was way less. It was the first 491 00:24:22,840 --> 00:24:24,800 Speaker 1: time I did that for a trip because it was 492 00:24:24,840 --> 00:24:26,480 Speaker 1: a short trip and we were going to do all 493 00:24:26,520 --> 00:24:28,000 Speaker 1: carry ons. We're going to do a carry on for 494 00:24:28,040 --> 00:24:30,000 Speaker 1: the kids, carry on for me, carry on for David, 495 00:24:30,560 --> 00:24:36,320 Speaker 1: and because usually we do like the one big checked 496 00:24:36,320 --> 00:24:40,760 Speaker 1: bag for everybody, like when we go to Florida in 497 00:24:40,800 --> 00:24:43,240 Speaker 1: the summer to see family and stuff. It's just easier 498 00:24:43,560 --> 00:24:45,959 Speaker 1: to have just like one big bag with us. Although 499 00:24:46,560 --> 00:24:49,040 Speaker 1: actually no, I take that back. This past summer we 500 00:24:49,080 --> 00:24:52,000 Speaker 1: did the three carry ons again because the boys need 501 00:24:52,080 --> 00:24:56,240 Speaker 1: a lot less stuff now because they're bigger, they don't 502 00:24:56,240 --> 00:24:59,640 Speaker 1: need as many extra outfits or like, you know, they're 503 00:24:59,640 --> 00:25:03,800 Speaker 1: not like throwing up at random or pooping their pants 504 00:25:03,920 --> 00:25:07,520 Speaker 1: or spilling shit on themselves as much. I still will 505 00:25:07,560 --> 00:25:11,159 Speaker 1: like throw an extra T shirt in a in like 506 00:25:11,200 --> 00:25:13,919 Speaker 1: a like a tope bat or like or one of 507 00:25:13,960 --> 00:25:14,960 Speaker 1: their backpacks. 508 00:25:15,240 --> 00:25:19,320 Speaker 2: Yeah, just in case, Like, especially for the little one. 509 00:25:19,560 --> 00:25:22,200 Speaker 1: You know, God forbid, he spills water on his shirt 510 00:25:22,680 --> 00:25:28,159 Speaker 1: and you're in a fucking you know, saga of your trip. 511 00:25:29,160 --> 00:25:37,280 Speaker 1: It's wet shirt. It's wet, it'll dry, but it's so wet, 512 00:25:37,560 --> 00:25:41,800 Speaker 1: like and then you just you know, the path of 513 00:25:41,880 --> 00:25:45,040 Speaker 1: least resistance is to change their shirts so that everyone 514 00:25:45,040 --> 00:25:49,720 Speaker 1: on a plane hear them. Yeah, have a meltdown about being. 515 00:25:49,520 --> 00:25:52,280 Speaker 2: Wet the one time. So I have this rule. 516 00:25:52,320 --> 00:25:54,640 Speaker 4: When ros was little, I was like, we always need 517 00:25:54,680 --> 00:25:58,119 Speaker 4: to pack her an extra outfit in her when she 518 00:25:58,280 --> 00:26:00,720 Speaker 4: was a baby in her Oh, that's. 519 00:26:00,600 --> 00:26:04,240 Speaker 1: Like yeah, before the age of four, you have to 520 00:26:04,240 --> 00:26:06,320 Speaker 1: have an extra outfit, at least one or two. 521 00:26:06,720 --> 00:26:09,600 Speaker 4: But also you need an extra outfit for the parent 522 00:26:10,400 --> 00:26:13,879 Speaker 4: for yourself. Yeah, because and like that is that super 523 00:26:13,960 --> 00:26:16,800 Speaker 4: thin leggings and an extra sweatshirt or an extra T 524 00:26:16,920 --> 00:26:20,800 Speaker 4: shirt or a long sleeve shirt something. And Brad resisted 525 00:26:20,800 --> 00:26:23,560 Speaker 4: it so much because he was like, I'm mister lightpacker. 526 00:26:24,520 --> 00:26:27,000 Speaker 2: This motherfucker we went to we were. 527 00:26:26,920 --> 00:26:29,239 Speaker 4: In London, we went to sketch and it was like, 528 00:26:29,440 --> 00:26:31,640 Speaker 4: you know, I think this goes along with packing, because 529 00:26:31,640 --> 00:26:33,840 Speaker 4: it's like when you have a baby, you're packing for 530 00:26:33,880 --> 00:26:35,680 Speaker 4: the day, You're like leaving your house and you've got 531 00:26:35,680 --> 00:26:36,320 Speaker 4: the diaper bag. 532 00:26:36,400 --> 00:26:36,600 Speaker 2: Right. 533 00:26:37,600 --> 00:26:41,280 Speaker 4: She had a blowout in the middle of this beautiful 534 00:26:41,520 --> 00:26:46,960 Speaker 4: tea room. He took her to the bathroom. She he 535 00:26:47,280 --> 00:26:51,600 Speaker 4: he was like, he was freaking out, and I had shoved, 536 00:26:51,880 --> 00:26:54,760 Speaker 4: against his wishes, shoved an extra outfit in there, and 537 00:26:54,800 --> 00:26:58,480 Speaker 4: thank god I did. And then another time on a flight, 538 00:26:59,080 --> 00:27:01,560 Speaker 4: it was because he got shit on him. He got 539 00:27:01,600 --> 00:27:04,520 Speaker 4: baby shit on him. Well not that time, but she 540 00:27:04,640 --> 00:27:07,439 Speaker 4: peed all over him in the middle of a flight. Uh, 541 00:27:07,480 --> 00:27:10,720 Speaker 4: And he didn't have an extra outfit, and I was like, oh, 542 00:27:10,720 --> 00:27:11,320 Speaker 4: that's a shame. 543 00:27:11,640 --> 00:27:13,480 Speaker 2: Like, I mean, I didn't mean if one. I wasn't 544 00:27:13,520 --> 00:27:14,200 Speaker 2: like trying to. 545 00:27:14,119 --> 00:27:17,800 Speaker 4: Be snuff smug about it, but. 546 00:27:16,840 --> 00:27:17,879 Speaker 2: But like how could you not? 547 00:27:18,200 --> 00:27:21,000 Speaker 4: You were like it was I was also like, it's 548 00:27:21,160 --> 00:27:23,399 Speaker 4: just like just throw another T shirt in there, like 549 00:27:23,720 --> 00:27:26,000 Speaker 4: just throw another pair of pants in their bud like 550 00:27:26,160 --> 00:27:28,000 Speaker 4: you gotta yep please. 551 00:27:27,840 --> 00:27:31,920 Speaker 2: Yeah no, yeah, you never know. Kids are a different story. 552 00:27:31,960 --> 00:27:33,760 Speaker 2: Though it's a different Kids are a different story. 553 00:27:33,960 --> 00:27:37,160 Speaker 4: If you're traveling by yourself, you have a lot more freedom, 554 00:27:37,400 --> 00:27:40,480 Speaker 4: right like if you're traveling for this is what I'm saying. 555 00:27:40,520 --> 00:27:45,120 Speaker 4: Little like I think trying on stuff is so helpful. 556 00:27:45,359 --> 00:27:49,640 Speaker 4: Having a color palette is really helpful too, Like oh 557 00:27:50,000 --> 00:27:53,399 Speaker 4: so that everything well, like so you can mix and 558 00:27:53,440 --> 00:27:55,520 Speaker 4: match a little bit, like yeah, do you do like 559 00:27:56,160 --> 00:28:00,800 Speaker 4: more tops and like a few bottoms or yeah, I 560 00:28:00,840 --> 00:28:03,000 Speaker 4: try to keep it to Like I mean, I think 561 00:28:03,040 --> 00:28:06,600 Speaker 4: that the time because I feel like I remember that 562 00:28:06,640 --> 00:28:08,480 Speaker 4: from your Italy trip you were like I've got these 563 00:28:08,520 --> 00:28:10,960 Speaker 4: great shorts and then you go great with this topic 564 00:28:11,040 --> 00:28:13,440 Speaker 4: and this topic and I'm bringing this skirt and like. 565 00:28:13,440 --> 00:28:16,320 Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, I was like, ooh, she's so smart. 566 00:28:16,640 --> 00:28:19,240 Speaker 4: I brought too many dresses in Italy because I had 567 00:28:19,240 --> 00:28:21,480 Speaker 4: this like fantasy of being like, I'm in Italy and 568 00:28:21,520 --> 00:28:26,760 Speaker 4: I'm wearing these beautiful dresses. I could have brought one dress, okay, 569 00:28:26,840 --> 00:28:28,399 Speaker 4: because there were a couple of days where it was 570 00:28:28,400 --> 00:28:32,720 Speaker 4: colder than I thought it was gonna be. Checking the 571 00:28:32,760 --> 00:28:34,720 Speaker 4: weather obviously, is always your best friend. 572 00:28:37,080 --> 00:28:42,640 Speaker 2: More better? 573 00:28:43,360 --> 00:28:46,200 Speaker 1: Is there anything that you always forget or like things 574 00:28:46,200 --> 00:28:47,959 Speaker 1: that you stupid charger. 575 00:28:48,200 --> 00:28:53,200 Speaker 2: I'd like have the charger down, pat the freaking toilet trees. 576 00:28:53,200 --> 00:28:54,560 Speaker 2: I do in the morning before I leave. 577 00:28:54,560 --> 00:28:57,320 Speaker 4: I make a little list, but I have to put 578 00:28:57,400 --> 00:29:00,360 Speaker 4: a post it on my fucking bag that says get 579 00:29:00,400 --> 00:29:03,440 Speaker 4: your charger, because there have been so many times when 580 00:29:03,480 --> 00:29:05,880 Speaker 4: I land and I'm like or I'm in the plane 581 00:29:05,960 --> 00:29:09,240 Speaker 4: and I'm I'm in the airport and I'm like, oh shit, 582 00:29:09,320 --> 00:29:11,760 Speaker 4: my batteries on X amount or whatever, and I'm looking 583 00:29:11,800 --> 00:29:12,800 Speaker 4: around in my bag and I'm. 584 00:29:12,680 --> 00:29:15,840 Speaker 2: Like, I fucking forgot to pack my charger for me. 585 00:29:16,160 --> 00:29:18,320 Speaker 1: It's I'm really good about charger. 586 00:29:18,360 --> 00:29:19,000 Speaker 2: For some reason. 587 00:29:19,080 --> 00:29:21,960 Speaker 1: Again, I think it's anxiety of like mostly like my 588 00:29:22,120 --> 00:29:27,480 Speaker 1: kids iPads like riding out of juice on the plane. 589 00:29:27,920 --> 00:29:30,719 Speaker 2: So I'm like, I do not want to deal with that. 590 00:29:31,120 --> 00:29:32,400 Speaker 2: Uh So, I bring. 591 00:29:32,680 --> 00:29:35,880 Speaker 1: I'm always have chargers, and I always have portable chargers too, 592 00:29:36,080 --> 00:29:37,880 Speaker 1: like at least one or two. 593 00:29:39,680 --> 00:29:42,400 Speaker 2: And but for me, it's toothbrush. I can't tell you 594 00:29:42,480 --> 00:29:43,160 Speaker 2: how many. 595 00:29:42,960 --> 00:29:50,200 Speaker 1: Times I have forgotten my toothbrush, my children's toothbrushes, and. 596 00:29:52,120 --> 00:29:52,800 Speaker 2: The kids. 597 00:29:52,840 --> 00:29:55,960 Speaker 1: One really sucks because when you get a toothbrush from 598 00:29:56,120 --> 00:29:59,680 Speaker 1: the front desk, even at Disney, because I forgot them 599 00:29:59,680 --> 00:29:59,960 Speaker 1: at No. 600 00:30:00,040 --> 00:30:02,760 Speaker 2: They're booty. They're always booty. They're booty. 601 00:30:02,880 --> 00:30:06,880 Speaker 1: But they're also giving you like minty toothpaste that my 602 00:30:07,000 --> 00:30:10,800 Speaker 1: kids are not really like, They're still like there, their 603 00:30:10,800 --> 00:30:13,560 Speaker 1: toothpaste is a little bit minty, but it's mostly like fruity, 604 00:30:13,640 --> 00:30:16,400 Speaker 1: Like it's fruity flavors, like it's those like kid flavors 605 00:30:17,280 --> 00:30:21,800 Speaker 1: and so mint toothpaste to them, they're like a so spicy. 606 00:30:22,400 --> 00:30:28,920 Speaker 2: Like every time I'm like, god, I put the tidiest bit. Okay, 607 00:30:29,160 --> 00:30:33,840 Speaker 2: So this is it's so strong. This is the post 608 00:30:33,880 --> 00:30:36,720 Speaker 2: it is very helpful. The post it on the bag 609 00:30:36,920 --> 00:30:39,600 Speaker 2: is very helpful. That's a great idea. 610 00:30:40,120 --> 00:30:43,240 Speaker 4: It's really it's every time, like I'm going to bed 611 00:30:43,240 --> 00:30:45,200 Speaker 4: the night before, I'm like, what are the last couple 612 00:30:45,160 --> 00:30:47,120 Speaker 4: of things that I need to remember like my past. 613 00:30:47,400 --> 00:30:50,800 Speaker 1: Yes, I try to make a morning of list of 614 00:30:50,880 --> 00:30:52,959 Speaker 1: like all the last minute things that we have to 615 00:30:53,240 --> 00:30:56,600 Speaker 1: grab in the morning. Yeah, that David and I can 616 00:30:56,720 --> 00:31:00,440 Speaker 1: both look at. That's always like toothbrushes, chargers like yeah, 617 00:31:00,480 --> 00:31:02,320 Speaker 1: your glasses like whatever. 618 00:31:02,600 --> 00:31:07,000 Speaker 4: Also like there, So I have a basket underneath my vanity, 619 00:31:07,800 --> 00:31:12,360 Speaker 4: like in the bathroom, and the basket is just full 620 00:31:12,480 --> 00:31:14,760 Speaker 4: of and it's pretty organized, although I probably need to 621 00:31:14,800 --> 00:31:17,480 Speaker 4: go through it. It's full of like travel sizes of 622 00:31:17,560 --> 00:31:20,800 Speaker 4: everything you could ever want. There's travel size dental floss. 623 00:31:20,840 --> 00:31:24,840 Speaker 4: There's travel sized toothpaste, there's travel size there's a travel 624 00:31:24,880 --> 00:31:26,000 Speaker 4: sized first aid kit. 625 00:31:26,120 --> 00:31:30,680 Speaker 2: There's like everything, lotions, potions, boop it up up. 626 00:31:31,000 --> 00:31:33,840 Speaker 4: It's all in there. And so like before I go 627 00:31:34,200 --> 00:31:36,800 Speaker 4: on a trip, when I'm packing my toilet tries, a 628 00:31:36,800 --> 00:31:38,600 Speaker 4: lot of times I'll just swap out something because it's 629 00:31:38,680 --> 00:31:41,960 Speaker 4: usually only like what I'm leaving for five days, maybe 630 00:31:42,040 --> 00:31:46,080 Speaker 4: maybe seven. Yeah, the skin stuff is the stuff that 631 00:31:46,120 --> 00:31:49,120 Speaker 4: I find the most important. But like toothpaste, Like, I've 632 00:31:49,120 --> 00:31:51,560 Speaker 4: got a ton of little travel toothpastes that I could 633 00:31:51,640 --> 00:31:53,800 Speaker 4: use me too. Yeah, totally, you know what I mean. 634 00:31:54,080 --> 00:31:57,480 Speaker 1: Skincare can be tricky depending on the length of the trip. 635 00:31:58,040 --> 00:32:00,680 Speaker 2: Yeah, and hair care ada I'm going. 636 00:32:02,560 --> 00:32:06,400 Speaker 1: Yeah, I struggle more the skincare I kind of I'll do. 637 00:32:06,480 --> 00:32:12,440 Speaker 1: I'll bring like a simpler version of whatever I do. 638 00:32:12,760 --> 00:32:17,560 Speaker 1: And I'll usually bring, uh at least what because I 639 00:32:17,560 --> 00:32:19,840 Speaker 1: have really dry skin. And so if I'm going anywhere 640 00:32:19,840 --> 00:32:22,320 Speaker 1: cold or like if I or if maybe it's going 641 00:32:22,400 --> 00:32:24,400 Speaker 1: to be hot but the air conditioning might be intense, 642 00:32:24,760 --> 00:32:28,280 Speaker 1: I'm definitely bringing like a heavier moisturizer just. 643 00:32:28,240 --> 00:32:29,959 Speaker 2: In case, and a lighter one. 644 00:32:30,320 --> 00:32:33,360 Speaker 1: But then I may be like bringing one I'm not bringing, 645 00:32:33,360 --> 00:32:35,640 Speaker 1: like too serrup. I'm bringing, you know, the one I 646 00:32:35,720 --> 00:32:37,840 Speaker 1: like the most, like an SPI of course. 647 00:32:39,280 --> 00:32:40,560 Speaker 2: And pimple patches. 648 00:32:41,480 --> 00:32:43,920 Speaker 4: Always, always I always throw a thing of pimple patches 649 00:32:43,920 --> 00:32:44,240 Speaker 4: in there. 650 00:32:44,520 --> 00:32:45,680 Speaker 2: Yeah, they take up no room. 651 00:32:46,000 --> 00:32:49,120 Speaker 1: But hair care is hard because as great as like, 652 00:32:49,200 --> 00:32:52,640 Speaker 1: I love the travel section of Alta Beauty, like every 653 00:32:52,640 --> 00:32:57,000 Speaker 1: Alta Beauty has a great small travel size of like 654 00:32:57,120 --> 00:33:03,640 Speaker 1: so many products. But yeah, but hair is tough because 655 00:33:03,640 --> 00:33:06,040 Speaker 1: if I'm going somewhere where I'm gonna like wear my 656 00:33:06,120 --> 00:33:11,080 Speaker 1: hair wavy, I guess I could do like those little bottles. 657 00:33:11,120 --> 00:33:13,320 Speaker 1: That's usually what I end up doing, like putting my 658 00:33:13,360 --> 00:33:15,920 Speaker 1: favorite products in like a little travel bottle. 659 00:33:16,400 --> 00:33:18,720 Speaker 4: Yeah, for Christmas, i'mone to ask for a set of 660 00:33:18,720 --> 00:33:20,600 Speaker 4: those Cadence Have you seen those? 661 00:33:21,280 --> 00:33:23,440 Speaker 2: No, they're little capsules. 662 00:33:22,880 --> 00:33:25,040 Speaker 4: They're I think it's the company is called Cadence, and 663 00:33:25,120 --> 00:33:26,760 Speaker 4: they're spillproof. 664 00:33:26,880 --> 00:33:27,440 Speaker 2: They're little. 665 00:33:27,480 --> 00:33:30,760 Speaker 4: They're almost like little jars and you can fill them 666 00:33:30,840 --> 00:33:32,680 Speaker 4: up with any kind of product and that way you're 667 00:33:32,680 --> 00:33:35,920 Speaker 4: not like sometimes with those shitty travel bottles there's like 668 00:33:36,040 --> 00:33:38,120 Speaker 4: wasted product at the bottom because you can't get it out. 669 00:33:38,160 --> 00:33:41,560 Speaker 1: Yes, you can't get So these are like jars. So 670 00:33:41,640 --> 00:33:43,080 Speaker 1: a lot of them are too big. 671 00:33:43,480 --> 00:33:46,320 Speaker 2: Most of them are at big. They're too big. I 672 00:33:46,400 --> 00:33:47,920 Speaker 2: need half the size of this. 673 00:33:48,360 --> 00:33:51,520 Speaker 1: It's just for some frickin' hair lotion that I'm to use, 674 00:33:51,640 --> 00:33:53,560 Speaker 1: like a tiny bit about you know. 675 00:33:54,280 --> 00:33:58,000 Speaker 4: So the Cadence ones are stackable, they're magnetic. And this 676 00:33:58,080 --> 00:34:00,920 Speaker 4: is not an AD, not an AD, but if anyone 677 00:34:00,920 --> 00:34:03,040 Speaker 4: but if they want to, if they want to send 678 00:34:03,080 --> 00:34:05,840 Speaker 4: us free ship, they want to send to Will. 679 00:34:05,880 --> 00:34:07,560 Speaker 2: But they look cool as hell and you. 680 00:34:07,480 --> 00:34:10,520 Speaker 4: Can just like pump your normal stuff in there and 681 00:34:10,560 --> 00:34:15,200 Speaker 4: the label what I do because like that toilet tries 682 00:34:15,239 --> 00:34:17,359 Speaker 4: take up a lot of space. And also if you're 683 00:34:17,360 --> 00:34:20,239 Speaker 4: carrying on. You can only do three point four ounces 684 00:34:20,320 --> 00:34:24,040 Speaker 4: per right, thing right, and so like, yeah, you should. 685 00:34:24,239 --> 00:34:27,240 Speaker 4: You should just decant your you have to decant everything. 686 00:34:27,360 --> 00:34:29,759 Speaker 4: I'm such a big believer. It's like you have to 687 00:34:29,800 --> 00:34:33,040 Speaker 4: do it. You just bite the bullet into it or 688 00:34:33,120 --> 00:34:35,799 Speaker 4: buy the travel sizes because like otherwise you're taking a 689 00:34:35,880 --> 00:34:38,919 Speaker 4: valuable space or checking a bag based on like hair care. 690 00:34:39,000 --> 00:34:41,200 Speaker 2: Come on, like, you don't need to do that. You 691 00:34:41,200 --> 00:34:43,279 Speaker 2: know I have done that. I have done that. You 692 00:34:43,280 --> 00:34:44,800 Speaker 2: don't need to do that. Girl, you don't need to 693 00:34:44,840 --> 00:34:45,080 Speaker 2: do that. 694 00:34:45,160 --> 00:34:45,359 Speaker 3: Ever. 695 00:34:45,400 --> 00:34:47,279 Speaker 2: Again, I don't need to do that. Time is past. 696 00:34:49,320 --> 00:34:51,560 Speaker 2: Do you unpack when you get there? Or do you 697 00:34:51,600 --> 00:34:52,319 Speaker 2: live out of your seat? 698 00:34:52,400 --> 00:34:52,520 Speaker 3: Us? 699 00:34:52,640 --> 00:34:54,359 Speaker 2: Like, how do you you? You unpacked? I do too. 700 00:34:55,160 --> 00:34:57,600 Speaker 1: I let yes, I used to do out of my 701 00:34:57,640 --> 00:35:03,799 Speaker 1: suitcase and we kind of do that, like, you know, 702 00:35:03,840 --> 00:35:06,120 Speaker 1: when we travel to Florida, we're staying with our parents 703 00:35:06,160 --> 00:35:08,600 Speaker 1: and there's maybe like one or two empty drawers for 704 00:35:08,719 --> 00:35:12,000 Speaker 1: us and like a few hangers. I try to do 705 00:35:12,040 --> 00:35:14,120 Speaker 1: my best because it is so much easier to like 706 00:35:14,360 --> 00:35:15,480 Speaker 1: close up the suitcase. 707 00:35:15,520 --> 00:35:17,799 Speaker 2: But that's the only place that we like live out 708 00:35:17,840 --> 00:35:20,840 Speaker 2: of our suitcase a little bit. It's not my preference. 709 00:35:20,840 --> 00:35:23,799 Speaker 1: But if I'm in a hotel, the first thing I do, 710 00:35:24,120 --> 00:35:26,319 Speaker 1: or at Airbnb or anything like that, first thing I 711 00:35:26,360 --> 00:35:29,840 Speaker 1: do is completely unpacked. Put a drawer for the kids, 712 00:35:29,840 --> 00:35:32,879 Speaker 1: put a drawer for me, you know, hang whatever me too, 713 00:35:34,080 --> 00:35:38,120 Speaker 1: And I don't know it just I mean, repacking sucks 714 00:35:38,160 --> 00:35:40,319 Speaker 1: a little bit, but we have this, like you know, 715 00:35:40,320 --> 00:35:41,440 Speaker 1: what we do for repacking. 716 00:35:41,440 --> 00:35:42,320 Speaker 2: At the end of a trip. 717 00:35:42,760 --> 00:35:44,600 Speaker 1: We'll make like all our dirty like when we went 718 00:35:44,640 --> 00:35:46,799 Speaker 1: to New York and we're staying in this hotel room 719 00:35:46,840 --> 00:35:48,799 Speaker 1: that was not a bad size actually for New York. 720 00:35:51,040 --> 00:35:54,359 Speaker 1: We will usually at the end use one of our 721 00:35:54,400 --> 00:35:57,920 Speaker 1: carry ons for all the dirty clothes. Smart so like 722 00:35:58,080 --> 00:36:01,600 Speaker 1: all the dirty clothes whatever just literally gets thrown in 723 00:36:01,600 --> 00:36:04,080 Speaker 1: in a pile. It's not even fall, you know, and 724 00:36:04,160 --> 00:36:07,120 Speaker 1: whatever shoes maybe shit we bought. It's like one junk 725 00:36:07,160 --> 00:36:09,319 Speaker 1: suitcase basically nice. 726 00:36:09,360 --> 00:36:11,239 Speaker 2: And then we'll use. 727 00:36:11,320 --> 00:36:14,680 Speaker 1: The other suitcase to put whatever clean clothes or whatever 728 00:36:14,760 --> 00:36:18,640 Speaker 1: things we bought, you know, like more neatly and uh. 729 00:36:18,680 --> 00:36:19,799 Speaker 2: And that's just some kind of work. 730 00:36:19,840 --> 00:36:21,440 Speaker 1: So then when we get home, it's nice because you 731 00:36:21,480 --> 00:36:24,360 Speaker 1: just take that one carry on, you just take it 732 00:36:24,400 --> 00:36:27,439 Speaker 1: over your washing machine and throw everything in and like 733 00:36:27,760 --> 00:36:29,240 Speaker 1: you know, do your laundry. 734 00:36:28,880 --> 00:36:31,280 Speaker 2: As soon as you have them. I did something similar 735 00:36:31,400 --> 00:36:33,439 Speaker 2: and it came up with that. I like that. 736 00:36:33,760 --> 00:36:38,240 Speaker 4: I like usually it'll be either one of the extra 737 00:36:38,360 --> 00:36:43,120 Speaker 4: like one of the packing cubes, or sometimes certain suitcases 738 00:36:43,160 --> 00:36:46,080 Speaker 4: will have like a little laundry bag in there, or 739 00:36:46,120 --> 00:36:48,399 Speaker 4: if you're staying at a hotel, they'll provide like, oh, 740 00:36:48,560 --> 00:36:50,080 Speaker 4: like if you want to get your laundry done at 741 00:36:50,080 --> 00:36:52,440 Speaker 4: the hotel, they'll provide like, yeah, we'll use those bags. 742 00:36:52,560 --> 00:36:55,480 Speaker 4: Ye'll use that and put all my dirty laundry in there. Yeah, 743 00:36:55,560 --> 00:36:58,160 Speaker 4: because like I don't want that stuff stinking up everything else. 744 00:36:58,520 --> 00:37:02,360 Speaker 4: I will say, Yeah. One of my tricks for travel 745 00:37:02,600 --> 00:37:06,480 Speaker 4: is like taking stuff. If I'm gonna wash it, it 746 00:37:06,520 --> 00:37:08,399 Speaker 4: needs to be like a quick dry kind of thing 747 00:37:08,520 --> 00:37:10,320 Speaker 4: like that I can just hang and it's gonna be 748 00:37:10,400 --> 00:37:13,359 Speaker 4: dry like probably the next day. Like so a lot 749 00:37:13,400 --> 00:37:16,839 Speaker 4: of like T shirts or tank tops that I take 750 00:37:16,920 --> 00:37:19,239 Speaker 4: for like layering stuff, I can just wash them in 751 00:37:19,280 --> 00:37:22,640 Speaker 4: the sink and then'net's amazing on. 752 00:37:24,120 --> 00:37:26,720 Speaker 1: Like you know, wait, yeah, aren't there like these really 753 00:37:26,719 --> 00:37:29,759 Speaker 1: cool little like uh, are they like the laundry sheets or. 754 00:37:29,760 --> 00:37:33,840 Speaker 4: Yeah, there's tiny little soap things that are like paper 755 00:37:33,880 --> 00:37:36,959 Speaker 4: there's little packets, little packet bags that you can buy. 756 00:37:37,680 --> 00:37:41,400 Speaker 4: I did have one of those explode ones, so I 757 00:37:41,400 --> 00:37:43,919 Speaker 4: would say, if you're gonna use a liquid one, put 758 00:37:43,960 --> 00:37:47,440 Speaker 4: them in a ziploc bag before you put them in 759 00:37:47,440 --> 00:37:51,480 Speaker 4: your suitcase, because one of mine exploded in my toiletry 760 00:37:51,480 --> 00:37:53,120 Speaker 4: case and I was like, what the fuck is this 761 00:37:53,200 --> 00:37:55,200 Speaker 4: and then I realized it was my laundry detertion. But 762 00:37:55,239 --> 00:37:57,239 Speaker 4: I've done that multiple times, and it's great because like 763 00:37:57,760 --> 00:38:00,279 Speaker 4: you just washed like a couple pairs of underwear and 764 00:38:00,360 --> 00:38:02,279 Speaker 4: like a couple tank tops or a T shirt in 765 00:38:02,320 --> 00:38:04,560 Speaker 4: the sink, and then you hang it to dry and boom, 766 00:38:04,560 --> 00:38:05,880 Speaker 4: you have a clean outfit. 767 00:38:05,920 --> 00:38:07,080 Speaker 2: Again, it's great. 768 00:38:08,320 --> 00:38:10,840 Speaker 1: Or like workout clothes, like I don't want to bring 769 00:38:11,640 --> 00:38:15,080 Speaker 1: four different sports bras and like four leggings fucking smart, 770 00:38:15,120 --> 00:38:17,880 Speaker 1: because workout clothes are always the bait of my existence. 771 00:38:18,000 --> 00:38:20,839 Speaker 1: If I am going somewhere and I know there's gonna 772 00:38:20,880 --> 00:38:23,520 Speaker 1: be a good gym or whatever, and I want to 773 00:38:23,600 --> 00:38:24,440 Speaker 1: like work out. 774 00:38:25,360 --> 00:38:27,560 Speaker 2: But then you're like annoyed that these. 775 00:38:27,480 --> 00:38:29,440 Speaker 1: Like workout clothes are taking up so much space in 776 00:38:29,480 --> 00:38:31,240 Speaker 1: my fucking bag. 777 00:38:31,560 --> 00:38:34,080 Speaker 2: So my trick for that is two pairs of leggings. 778 00:38:34,239 --> 00:38:35,280 Speaker 2: Two sports bras. 779 00:38:35,800 --> 00:38:37,799 Speaker 4: If I'm gonna wear a shirt over it, it needs 780 00:38:37,840 --> 00:38:39,920 Speaker 4: to be a shirt that can double with something else. 781 00:38:40,080 --> 00:38:43,319 Speaker 4: Like normally I would never do that, but I'm on 782 00:38:43,360 --> 00:38:45,440 Speaker 4: a trip, so it's like a special rule. Like I 783 00:38:45,480 --> 00:38:46,920 Speaker 4: can wear this T shirt down to the gym and 784 00:38:46,960 --> 00:38:49,840 Speaker 4: like maybe take it off before I get too sweaty. Okay, 785 00:38:50,120 --> 00:38:52,440 Speaker 4: socks need to be I have to be able to 786 00:38:52,480 --> 00:38:54,960 Speaker 4: wear them somewhere else like these. This pair of socks 787 00:38:54,960 --> 00:38:57,120 Speaker 4: cannot just be like a workout sock, Like it has 788 00:38:57,160 --> 00:38:59,920 Speaker 4: to be a workout sock and I can also wear 789 00:39:00,160 --> 00:39:04,040 Speaker 4: to like some other thing. Everything has to do double duty, 790 00:39:04,160 --> 00:39:04,640 Speaker 4: you know what I mean. 791 00:39:04,719 --> 00:39:06,680 Speaker 1: And the same with the sneakers, Like if you are 792 00:39:06,760 --> 00:39:08,320 Speaker 1: going to be like in a hotel gym. 793 00:39:08,239 --> 00:39:10,160 Speaker 2: Yeah, like I'm working out of my Solomon. 794 00:39:10,040 --> 00:39:13,200 Speaker 1: Barefoot, but sometimes I don't want to always be barefoot. 795 00:39:12,760 --> 00:39:14,080 Speaker 4: And I'm going to work out of my solemn. I 796 00:39:14,160 --> 00:39:18,360 Speaker 4: worked out on my Solomon's, I worked out in my Converse. Okay, 797 00:39:18,480 --> 00:39:21,040 Speaker 4: I would never work out in a regular like a 798 00:39:21,080 --> 00:39:24,480 Speaker 4: hotel gin barefoot, but I would. I have asked, like, oh, 799 00:39:24,520 --> 00:39:27,439 Speaker 4: can I have a matt and some dumbbells in my room? 800 00:39:28,040 --> 00:39:30,560 Speaker 4: And like more often than that, they'll bring them to 801 00:39:30,600 --> 00:39:34,719 Speaker 4: you like, oh, sometimes they won't. 802 00:39:34,600 --> 00:39:36,680 Speaker 2: Like and I've never even thought to do that. 803 00:39:37,120 --> 00:39:39,239 Speaker 4: I definitely stayed places where they're like, oh no, we 804 00:39:39,280 --> 00:39:42,200 Speaker 4: can't do that, which sucks, but like it doesn't hurt 805 00:39:42,200 --> 00:39:44,320 Speaker 4: to ask, you know, it just doesn't hurt. Yeah. 806 00:39:44,600 --> 00:39:44,799 Speaker 2: Yeah. 807 00:39:44,800 --> 00:39:47,560 Speaker 4: I've also stayed in places where I have asked them 808 00:39:47,600 --> 00:39:50,080 Speaker 4: to like empty out the minifridge because I'm like, that's 809 00:39:50,120 --> 00:39:52,759 Speaker 4: it's too tempting for me, can you please empty it out? 810 00:39:52,800 --> 00:39:53,640 Speaker 2: And sometimes they will. 811 00:39:54,800 --> 00:39:57,399 Speaker 1: Sometimes I've done that, especially with kids, I've asked them 812 00:39:57,400 --> 00:39:59,480 Speaker 1: to like empty out the mini fridge so that I 813 00:39:59,520 --> 00:40:02,480 Speaker 1: can just like stuff that my kids actually will eat 814 00:40:02,719 --> 00:40:04,120 Speaker 1: or I will eat like in. 815 00:40:04,040 --> 00:40:08,919 Speaker 2: There and not twelve dollars M and ms. Yeah yeah, yeah, yeah. 816 00:40:09,120 --> 00:40:11,040 Speaker 1: My kids don't need to like be looking at candy 817 00:40:11,200 --> 00:40:13,480 Speaker 1: like every day like this. 818 00:40:14,120 --> 00:40:17,080 Speaker 2: Now we're will in there. We're gonna put some apples 819 00:40:17,080 --> 00:40:19,520 Speaker 2: in there. Happens the apples and cheez. 820 00:40:20,160 --> 00:40:22,600 Speaker 4: I will say the best, the best piece of packing 821 00:40:22,600 --> 00:40:26,320 Speaker 4: advice I've ever gotten is that for a trip overseas 822 00:40:26,440 --> 00:40:28,880 Speaker 4: or like a trip that you're taking where you know 823 00:40:28,960 --> 00:40:32,600 Speaker 4: you're probably gonna do some souvenir shopping or you want 824 00:40:32,600 --> 00:40:35,200 Speaker 4: to want to bring stuff back, like we're going to this, 825 00:40:36,000 --> 00:40:38,960 Speaker 4: We're going to Sicaga, right, But I also I'm so 826 00:40:39,000 --> 00:40:42,160 Speaker 4: excited to see these Christmas markets in Europe and like Paris. 827 00:40:42,239 --> 00:40:44,640 Speaker 4: I'm just so looking forward to it. And I know 828 00:40:44,680 --> 00:40:46,840 Speaker 4: I'm gonna want to bring like some artists and stuff 829 00:40:46,880 --> 00:40:49,359 Speaker 4: back for friends and family. And so what I am 830 00:40:49,440 --> 00:40:51,080 Speaker 4: going to do is I'm going to check a bag, 831 00:40:52,680 --> 00:40:56,359 Speaker 4: but it's mostly gonna be empty, like it might have 832 00:40:57,320 --> 00:40:59,440 Speaker 4: maybe if I bring a second jacket, it might have 833 00:40:59,440 --> 00:41:01,880 Speaker 4: a second jack get in there and like, okay, you 834 00:41:01,880 --> 00:41:04,040 Speaker 4: know some stuff that I'm not going to miss right 835 00:41:04,080 --> 00:41:05,640 Speaker 4: away if the bag gets lost. 836 00:41:06,400 --> 00:41:06,920 Speaker 2: Yeah. 837 00:41:07,200 --> 00:41:10,200 Speaker 4: I also do put tracking devices in my bags now, 838 00:41:10,280 --> 00:41:11,280 Speaker 4: like I put Apple. 839 00:41:12,440 --> 00:41:14,480 Speaker 2: The little I can't remember they're called. 840 00:41:14,600 --> 00:41:17,560 Speaker 1: Keeps saying yeah the air tags weak air tag, that 841 00:41:17,560 --> 00:41:19,840 Speaker 1: we're going to do that, and we haven't done. 842 00:41:19,719 --> 00:41:22,320 Speaker 2: It yet, but yes, it's awesome, it's awesome. 843 00:41:22,360 --> 00:41:22,560 Speaker 3: Yeah. 844 00:41:22,680 --> 00:41:26,600 Speaker 4: Also pro tip, if you have a toddler or small child, 845 00:41:27,000 --> 00:41:28,760 Speaker 4: you could stick an air tag on their little outfit 846 00:41:28,800 --> 00:41:31,839 Speaker 4: when you take them to Disneyland and they're never gonna past. 847 00:41:32,600 --> 00:41:33,640 Speaker 2: Yeah, that's real. 848 00:41:33,719 --> 00:41:36,080 Speaker 1: Or they have those little like cute watches that they 849 00:41:36,320 --> 00:41:38,520 Speaker 1: for kids that held a little air tag. 850 00:41:38,640 --> 00:41:40,520 Speaker 2: Yeah, I put them in my bag, my chuck bag. 851 00:41:40,880 --> 00:41:41,120 Speaker 4: Uh. 852 00:41:41,239 --> 00:41:46,160 Speaker 1: Yeah, I usually use my kids carry on is usually 853 00:41:46,239 --> 00:41:47,640 Speaker 1: has extra space. 854 00:41:48,880 --> 00:41:49,480 Speaker 2: Uh. 855 00:41:50,560 --> 00:41:52,279 Speaker 1: And if we're going somewhere where I think we're gonna 856 00:41:52,280 --> 00:41:54,600 Speaker 1: buy stuff, I try to make their bag like even 857 00:41:54,680 --> 00:42:02,160 Speaker 1: lighter yeacause kids I find like they will I could 858 00:42:02,160 --> 00:42:04,640 Speaker 1: read like I could do a lot less bottoms for them, 859 00:42:05,120 --> 00:42:06,840 Speaker 1: especially if we're going if we're going in to anywhere 860 00:42:06,840 --> 00:42:08,319 Speaker 1: hot where they're probably going to be in a bathing 861 00:42:08,360 --> 00:42:09,160 Speaker 1: suit all the time. 862 00:42:09,320 --> 00:42:12,759 Speaker 2: I'm packing like two or three shorts for that. Yeah, 863 00:42:12,760 --> 00:42:13,640 Speaker 2: for sure, for sure. 864 00:42:13,680 --> 00:42:16,239 Speaker 1: The thing that they are going to consistently mess up 865 00:42:16,320 --> 00:42:18,239 Speaker 1: is their shirt. That's the thing that they're going to 866 00:42:18,280 --> 00:42:22,239 Speaker 1: spill shit on. That's the shit that Unfortunately, if you're 867 00:42:22,239 --> 00:42:24,319 Speaker 1: going somewhere for a week, you need to pack them 868 00:42:24,360 --> 00:42:29,080 Speaker 1: like ten shirts. Like it's just inevitable. They will spill 869 00:42:29,120 --> 00:42:30,560 Speaker 1: some fucking shit on their shirts. 870 00:42:30,680 --> 00:42:33,640 Speaker 2: But you don't do when you're when you're in Florida, 871 00:42:33,680 --> 00:42:35,400 Speaker 2: you can do laundry though, like right, like can't you 872 00:42:35,440 --> 00:42:36,960 Speaker 2: Oh yeah, yeah for Florida, I don't do that. 873 00:42:37,040 --> 00:42:40,080 Speaker 1: Yeahh in Florida where we have laundry, No, I pack 874 00:42:40,160 --> 00:42:43,400 Speaker 1: them maybe, like so I don't have to do laundry 875 00:42:43,440 --> 00:42:45,719 Speaker 1: like every three or four day, I'll pack it right 876 00:42:46,120 --> 00:42:49,000 Speaker 1: for four or five shirts for them and maybe like 877 00:42:49,120 --> 00:42:53,000 Speaker 1: two shorts because they are in their pajamas or their 878 00:42:53,040 --> 00:42:53,880 Speaker 1: bathing suits. 879 00:42:54,360 --> 00:42:55,440 Speaker 2: Ninety percent. 880 00:42:55,880 --> 00:42:58,960 Speaker 1: Yeah, and Zo's at the age where he'll like do 881 00:42:59,160 --> 00:43:02,839 Speaker 1: an outfit change, which I'm like, bro, we're traveling, like, 882 00:43:02,880 --> 00:43:08,000 Speaker 1: you can't be doing an outfit change every day, Sonny, 883 00:43:08,200 --> 00:43:10,759 Speaker 1: you have run out of clean like yeah, like he'll 884 00:43:10,800 --> 00:43:13,720 Speaker 1: hearing over learn how to do laundry. 885 00:43:14,280 --> 00:43:16,879 Speaker 2: That's ty, Yeah, that's you're right. 886 00:43:16,960 --> 00:43:19,279 Speaker 4: Actually, that's totally okay. If you want to do do 887 00:43:19,400 --> 00:43:22,080 Speaker 4: your outpha change, you can do that. If now you 888 00:43:22,120 --> 00:43:24,200 Speaker 4: have you have to do laundry, yeah, to do that 889 00:43:24,360 --> 00:43:25,080 Speaker 4: outfit so you're. 890 00:43:25,040 --> 00:43:26,759 Speaker 2: Right, or you could keep that outfit on. 891 00:43:27,480 --> 00:43:29,560 Speaker 1: I can't wait to see the look on the oella's 892 00:43:29,640 --> 00:43:32,640 Speaker 1: faces when I send my nine year old boy to 893 00:43:32,880 --> 00:43:34,040 Speaker 1: do his own laundry. 894 00:43:34,239 --> 00:43:39,880 Speaker 2: That would be really fun. Oh my god, are ridiculous? 895 00:43:40,880 --> 00:43:43,200 Speaker 4: Really quick before we go, there is like this packing 896 00:43:43,239 --> 00:43:50,000 Speaker 4: method that I think like TikTok and Reddit introduced or 897 00:43:50,520 --> 00:43:51,799 Speaker 4: you know, I don't know who came up with it, 898 00:43:51,840 --> 00:43:54,120 Speaker 4: but it's like the five three two one method, and 899 00:43:54,200 --> 00:43:59,240 Speaker 4: I think it's interesting. Okay, Essentially you pack five bottoms, 900 00:43:59,280 --> 00:44:03,440 Speaker 4: four tops, three pairs of shoes, two dresses, jumpsuits or layers, 901 00:44:03,480 --> 00:44:07,400 Speaker 4: and one accessory. I don't know, I think this is 902 00:44:07,440 --> 00:44:09,400 Speaker 4: a good jumping off point, and like, if you really 903 00:44:09,440 --> 00:44:12,640 Speaker 4: struggle with like putting together outfits, maybe this is for you. 904 00:44:13,200 --> 00:44:16,600 Speaker 4: I do think the power of accessories can change an outfit, 905 00:44:16,760 --> 00:44:20,680 Speaker 4: like immediately, Like I could wear you know, I could 906 00:44:20,680 --> 00:44:23,640 Speaker 4: wear my cool I have these black sweatpants that are 907 00:44:23,680 --> 00:44:26,440 Speaker 4: like they have this like cool weird bottom that's like 908 00:44:26,480 --> 00:44:29,640 Speaker 4: a bunky shape. So like I could wear those to 909 00:44:29,800 --> 00:44:34,160 Speaker 4: a nice dinner if I layer them with like a 910 00:44:34,200 --> 00:44:38,240 Speaker 4: black tank top, a black blazer, high heels, black white heels, 911 00:44:38,400 --> 00:44:40,880 Speaker 4: and then like a cool gold necklace of big earrings, 912 00:44:40,960 --> 00:44:43,920 Speaker 4: like perfect for dinner. And then if I just switch 913 00:44:44,040 --> 00:44:47,160 Speaker 4: the shoes to the solomons, put on some socks and 914 00:44:47,920 --> 00:44:52,240 Speaker 4: maybe layer you know, I've got this like big black 915 00:44:52,239 --> 00:44:55,480 Speaker 4: scarf that I use for travel, or like a little 916 00:44:55,600 --> 00:44:59,360 Speaker 4: bandana or something totally different outfit hat totally different outfit, 917 00:44:59,440 --> 00:45:02,319 Speaker 4: you know what I mean. Like, yeah, like it's very 918 00:45:02,320 --> 00:45:07,280 Speaker 4: easy to do make different outfits if you pack accessories. 919 00:45:07,480 --> 00:45:10,040 Speaker 4: So like I I'm like, I wear a hat on 920 00:45:10,080 --> 00:45:11,920 Speaker 4: the plane so that I can have a hat when 921 00:45:11,920 --> 00:45:14,719 Speaker 4: I'm traveling. I have like a like I said, I 922 00:45:15,000 --> 00:45:17,200 Speaker 4: think like it's a J Crew. I think my bound 923 00:45:17,280 --> 00:45:20,240 Speaker 4: sale right now. J Crew and Gap do really nice 924 00:45:20,280 --> 00:45:23,760 Speaker 4: like big they we used to call them paj minas, 925 00:45:23,800 --> 00:45:27,239 Speaker 4: but they're basically big like scarf cape that you can 926 00:45:27,760 --> 00:45:29,319 Speaker 4: use as a blanket on the plane, but then you 927 00:45:29,320 --> 00:45:31,520 Speaker 4: can also use a scarf when you get to your location. 928 00:45:32,560 --> 00:45:36,120 Speaker 2: M god, so many hot tips. 929 00:45:36,120 --> 00:45:38,719 Speaker 1: Also, because you kept saying Solomon's I wanted to look 930 00:45:38,800 --> 00:45:40,719 Speaker 1: up Solomons the bus. 931 00:45:40,760 --> 00:45:44,120 Speaker 2: I don't know. Are you talking about the slip ons 932 00:45:44,160 --> 00:45:47,360 Speaker 2: and clogs? No, I'm talking about s A L O 933 00:45:47,719 --> 00:45:48,400 Speaker 2: M O N. 934 00:45:49,400 --> 00:45:51,719 Speaker 4: And I'm talking about like the hiking shoes, like the 935 00:45:51,760 --> 00:45:55,840 Speaker 4: tennis shoes, the hiking shoes. So I'll send you a link. 936 00:45:56,160 --> 00:45:58,759 Speaker 4: I'll send you a link because there's a ton of 937 00:45:58,800 --> 00:46:03,800 Speaker 4: great ones right now. They just did a collab with like, Okay, they're. 938 00:46:03,640 --> 00:46:07,719 Speaker 1: Kind of like booty kind of sneakers. Yeah, some of 939 00:46:07,760 --> 00:46:09,960 Speaker 1: them are high tops and then some of them are icy. 940 00:46:10,200 --> 00:46:12,040 Speaker 4: I would never the high tops are not for me. 941 00:46:12,200 --> 00:46:15,080 Speaker 4: The high tops are for serious hikers. For me, it's 942 00:46:15,160 --> 00:46:21,600 Speaker 4: like the fashion y like sneaker shoe. If you're interested, 943 00:46:22,200 --> 00:46:26,160 Speaker 4: don't know a chunky sneaker. Yeah, it's like a chunky, 944 00:46:26,160 --> 00:46:29,840 Speaker 4: cool sneaker, but it's not like, yeah, goofy looking like 945 00:46:29,880 --> 00:46:31,920 Speaker 4: it doesn't well, some of them are kind of goofy, 946 00:46:31,960 --> 00:46:34,919 Speaker 4: but some of them are very cool and like they 947 00:46:35,040 --> 00:46:38,200 Speaker 4: just kind of make your outfit look like you're not trying, 948 00:46:38,320 --> 00:46:40,440 Speaker 4: but they're comfy walk in. 949 00:46:41,640 --> 00:46:52,120 Speaker 2: Okay, Okay, more better, Okay. What was your big takeaway today? Oh? 950 00:46:52,160 --> 00:46:57,760 Speaker 1: My god, so many hot tips about wear your biggest 951 00:46:57,760 --> 00:47:02,880 Speaker 1: shoes on the plane. Paj the recent pashmino one that 952 00:47:02,960 --> 00:47:06,920 Speaker 1: doubles as a scarf was great. Yeah, you have to 953 00:47:06,920 --> 00:47:09,320 Speaker 1: put on your outfits before you pack. 954 00:47:10,160 --> 00:47:11,560 Speaker 2: You have to give yourself time. 955 00:47:15,280 --> 00:47:19,520 Speaker 1: I'm gonna redo all of my little travel containers for 956 00:47:19,640 --> 00:47:21,120 Speaker 1: my skincare and hair care. 957 00:47:21,600 --> 00:47:21,920 Speaker 4: Nice. 958 00:47:23,680 --> 00:47:26,840 Speaker 1: Yeah, so you had so many good hot tips. This 959 00:47:27,040 --> 00:47:27,480 Speaker 1: was great. 960 00:47:28,520 --> 00:47:29,000 Speaker 2: Yeah. 961 00:47:29,080 --> 00:47:33,000 Speaker 1: I definitely feel more better about packing. What are your takeaways? 962 00:47:33,320 --> 00:47:34,120 Speaker 2: I need to get cracking. 963 00:47:34,160 --> 00:47:36,000 Speaker 4: I'm packing for a trip that I'm taking to New 964 00:47:36,080 --> 00:47:39,200 Speaker 4: York in two days. I'm going to New York in 965 00:47:39,239 --> 00:47:42,000 Speaker 4: like two days, and I need to pack because I 966 00:47:42,040 --> 00:47:43,840 Speaker 4: have multiple events that I have to go to, but 967 00:47:43,920 --> 00:47:46,120 Speaker 4: also I'm spending time with a friend, so there's a 968 00:47:46,120 --> 00:47:49,440 Speaker 4: lot of stuff and I don't want to check a bag. 969 00:47:50,160 --> 00:47:52,480 Speaker 4: And then I also need to start thinking about Paris, 970 00:47:52,520 --> 00:47:56,560 Speaker 4: which is like in a month, but I'd rather get 971 00:47:56,600 --> 00:47:58,800 Speaker 4: it in my head now what I'm gonna want to 972 00:47:58,840 --> 00:48:00,880 Speaker 4: take and not so that I can make sure everything's 973 00:48:00,880 --> 00:48:02,759 Speaker 4: like ready to go so I'm not stressed out two 974 00:48:02,840 --> 00:48:04,280 Speaker 4: days before I'm. 975 00:48:04,160 --> 00:48:04,960 Speaker 2: Like losing my mind. 976 00:48:05,000 --> 00:48:07,600 Speaker 4: Because that's another thing. This, let me tell you, this 977 00:48:07,719 --> 00:48:10,520 Speaker 4: is a lot of trial and error. Like I have 978 00:48:10,600 --> 00:48:13,120 Speaker 4: had times where I wait until the last second and 979 00:48:13,160 --> 00:48:15,640 Speaker 4: I'm like crying in my closet because I'm having to 980 00:48:15,680 --> 00:48:17,719 Speaker 4: try everything on and I'm so stressed out. 981 00:48:18,480 --> 00:48:21,400 Speaker 1: Yeah, so this is like Ali. I love to pack 982 00:48:21,680 --> 00:48:24,000 Speaker 1: like two days before a trip, two or three days 983 00:48:24,000 --> 00:48:26,360 Speaker 1: before a trip. I like that day before to be 984 00:48:26,920 --> 00:48:30,400 Speaker 1: just left for like random things that I remember that 985 00:48:30,440 --> 00:48:33,040 Speaker 1: I maybe want to take. Sometimes I can be dangerous though, 986 00:48:33,040 --> 00:48:36,440 Speaker 1: because sometimes I can overpack on the day before because 987 00:48:36,480 --> 00:48:37,120 Speaker 1: I'm thinking of to. 988 00:48:37,120 --> 00:48:38,840 Speaker 2: You, I'm like, oh but what about this? What about this? 989 00:48:38,920 --> 00:48:42,719 Speaker 2: What about that? Huh? But yeah, I like to do 990 00:48:42,760 --> 00:48:46,759 Speaker 2: it a couple days before. I feel a little more 991 00:48:46,760 --> 00:48:50,239 Speaker 2: better about packing? Do you. 992 00:48:50,440 --> 00:48:53,279 Speaker 1: I feel a lot more better about packing, but I 993 00:48:53,320 --> 00:48:55,239 Speaker 1: don't have to do it today like you do. 994 00:48:55,520 --> 00:49:01,480 Speaker 2: So that's real. That's real, that's real. Okay, all right, 995 00:49:01,520 --> 00:49:03,480 Speaker 2: this was a fun one. Yeah, this was fun. I 996 00:49:03,520 --> 00:49:06,319 Speaker 2: hope that we were helpful in some way. Okay, see 997 00:49:06,320 --> 00:49:09,680 Speaker 2: you next time. All right, Bye, bye guys, Bye, More 998 00:49:10,120 --> 00:49:10,920 Speaker 2: and More Better. 999 00:49:11,400 --> 00:49:13,319 Speaker 4: Do you have something you'd like to be more better 1000 00:49:13,360 --> 00:49:14,680 Speaker 4: at that you want us to talk about in a 1001 00:49:14,719 --> 00:49:15,480 Speaker 4: future episode? 1002 00:49:15,520 --> 00:49:17,919 Speaker 1: Can you relate to our struggles or have you tried 1003 00:49:17,960 --> 00:49:19,040 Speaker 1: one of our tips and tricks? 1004 00:49:19,280 --> 00:49:22,239 Speaker 4: Shoot us your thoughts and ideas at Morebetter pod at 1005 00:49:22,239 --> 00:49:24,040 Speaker 4: gmail dot com and. 1006 00:49:24,080 --> 00:49:26,200 Speaker 2: Include a voice note if you want to be featured. 1007 00:49:25,880 --> 00:49:28,960 Speaker 4: On the pod. 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