Speaker 1: You're listening to Waiting on Reparations production of My Heart Radio.
Speaker 1: Yo yo yo. It's like a jungle. Sometimes. It makes
Speaker 1: me wonder if these other rappers really offends. They're trying
Speaker 1: to plunder some clock and the recipe. Watch what the
Speaker 1: message be. Pay attention to the crumbs they dropping and
Speaker 1: stressing me to a less degree. They got a purpose
Speaker 1: to hang me. These motherfucker's rapping as if they're working
Speaker 1: for Langley Propaganda flow even not considered. So it's something
Speaker 1: I can't rop with. Is the opposite of dope. But
Speaker 1: they dropped some bliminals not within my scope. Your mind
Speaker 1: is just the road like the dropped into commode. But
Speaker 1: I run in garb my tilfoil hat want no positive
Speaker 1: game because they've been spoiled. That that's stupid. Hey what up?
Speaker 1: My name's Dope Knife and we are waiting on reparations.
Speaker 1: Please hurry the funk up. How are you doing tonight?
Speaker 1: I'm good. I'm excited. Uh, I mean I've had a
Speaker 1: long day. But the House passed the pro act get
Speaker 1: that ship. Yeah, I don't know if you hear about that.
Speaker 1: So the explain that to us. So yeah, so the
Speaker 1: pro act to Protect the Right to Organize Act of
Speaker 1: the pro Act passed today in the House with five
Speaker 1: Republicans joining Democrats in favor of it. It provides protections
Speaker 1: for workers trying to organize UM and the labor movement.
Speaker 1: You know, anybody from D s A to a bunch
Speaker 1: of the big labor unions across the country have all
Speaker 1: been lobbying and trying to hit their constituencies and their
Speaker 1: memberships to contact their representatives and to support the pro
Speaker 1: act because it's you know, it would finally level the
Speaker 1: playing field that's tilted towards big business UM, making UH
Speaker 1: union organizing drives and elections more accessible and power workers
Speaker 1: to you know, organize and bargain UM. And so I
Speaker 1: mean as as the socialist myself that believes that the
Speaker 1: workers uh create all value and that they should, you know,
Speaker 1: keep all value that they create. Very excited by this.
Speaker 1: I think it's a good step forward. It'd be interesting
Speaker 1: to see what happens with it in the Senate. UM.
Speaker 1: I don't know where our senators, uh Raphael, we're knock
Speaker 1: in John Assa stand on it. I know that uh
Speaker 1: Lucy Makebath, she's the congresswoman for the sixth district defeated
Speaker 1: Karen Handel in two thousand and eighteen, which is like
Speaker 1: relevant to this current discussion because John Assa failed to
Speaker 1: beat Karen Handel and what was at the time the
Speaker 1: most expensive congressional race and history UM back in like
Speaker 1: I think it was a special action back to Sun seventeen. Anyway,
Speaker 1: Lucy Madebeth. She was on the fence. D s A
Speaker 1: hit her up and like you know, labor unions were
Speaker 1: all putting pressure on her. She came through and supported
Speaker 1: Woo woo. So we'll see what happens to the Senate now.
Speaker 1: So for those who don't know, is this would you
Speaker 1: describe this as like a bold move that's going through?
Speaker 1: Is this something that should have been should have been
Speaker 1: done a long time ago? Well, what's sad about our
Speaker 1: current political moment is that bold like bold moves and
Speaker 1: things that should have happened a long time ago, like
Speaker 1: that ven diagram is often a circle, but we think
Speaker 1: about things like raising the minimum wage or providing universal
Speaker 1: healthcare UM, and so I'd say it's a bold move
Speaker 1: given like my personal low expectations of the Biden administration. UM,
Speaker 1: it's I feel like it's a long time coming that
Speaker 1: we restore collective bargaining rights to UM workers in places
Speaker 1: like Georgia, which is a right to work state, and
Speaker 1: across the nation. UM and so yeah, to mix sure both.
Speaker 1: It's exciting. Nonetheless, even if it's like long overdoom, at
Speaker 1: least something's getting done. At least something sounds getting done. Yeah, well,
Speaker 1: what's come across my radar? I'm not sure if you
Speaker 1: heard about this, but I was actually really interested in
Speaker 1: your thoughts about this. So have you heard about what
Speaker 1: went down with the Nevada Democratic Party? Yeah? Yeah, so, okay,
Speaker 1: things are happening. There were some votes that took place.
Speaker 1: I think it was over the weekend or both the
Speaker 1: last week, but um, I guess five positions of leadership
Speaker 1: UM in the Nevada Democratic Party were won by the
Speaker 1: members of the d s A, the Democratic Socialists so UM.
Speaker 1: As a result of this, the entire staff of the
Speaker 1: Nevada Democratic Party quit and they pretty much rated the
Speaker 1: accounts of the financial accounts before they left and took
Speaker 1: like their severance pay pay, took all the money in
Speaker 1: their bank accounts and like gave it to like the
Speaker 1: Democratic Senatorial Campaign Committee and like pretty much just shifted
Speaker 1: all their funds out of reach of the new leadership.
Speaker 1: This is something that they're gonna be able to recover,
Speaker 1: we're from I think so, I mean, I think that
Speaker 1: like if there is well organized, as they seem to be,
Speaker 1: having swept the elections, um they have, and like you know,
Speaker 1: are capitalizing on the political uh enthusiasm and orientations of
Speaker 1: an increasingly left leaning stain you know, as a result
Speaker 1: of those organizing victories you know, into that sixteen around
Speaker 1: the Bernie campaign as well and outside of that, um
Speaker 1: I didn't know, I mean, and and in in addition
Speaker 1: to just across the state, the popularity that there um
Speaker 1: position seems to hold nationally, people like left leaning, like
Speaker 1: you know, Verry left not Verry left leaning. Why should
Speaker 1: I say this? Uh, socialist sympathizers and other left folks
Speaker 1: UM are super stoked on this. I've known a couple
Speaker 1: of folks that probably never even been in Nevada that
Speaker 1: are chipping into the Nevada Democratic Party now so are like, oh,
Speaker 1: hell yeah, I see you. How do I see you
Speaker 1: about here? Grinded? So I think they'll be able to
Speaker 1: bounce back from this national though, like, how do you
Speaker 1: how does it get repeated. I mean it gets it
Speaker 1: gets repeated in that um, people get like uh left
Speaker 1: orgs wrather established ones or loose affiliations of people who
Speaker 1: desire this kind of takeover get involved in Democratic party politics.
Speaker 1: I mean like here in Athens, our are the chair
Speaker 1: of our local Democratic party is is uh like a
Speaker 1: It's like it's a low key socialist like whisperings don't know,
Speaker 1: he doesn't He's like an Elizabeth Warren type. Let's say yeah, um,
Speaker 1: and so like it could be done, and it could
Speaker 1: be done in places particularly where um, I feel like, um,
Speaker 1: there's not a lot there's like a strong establishment hold,
Speaker 1: like where the Democratic Party is only weak A bunch
Speaker 1: of energetic, well organized and like thoughtful anybody's can come
Speaker 1: in and clean house and just turn it into whatever
Speaker 1: they want if they show up to the meetings and
Speaker 1: bring a bunch of their friends that then become voting members,
Speaker 1: Like it can be done. And so yeah, taking over
Speaker 1: your taking over your city party, taking over your state party. Um,
Speaker 1: but just like showing up and like getting and bringing
Speaker 1: people at the risk of at the risk of putting
Speaker 1: heads on blast, like or would you even know what
Speaker 1: cities or what states are kind of vulnerable. I mean
Speaker 1: I imagine that um um well in terms of place,
Speaker 1: well to start off, places that actually have strong democratic
Speaker 1: parties with strong left insurgencies, well organized left insurgencies lately,
Speaker 1: Like I could see I could see this having to
Speaker 1: the New York State Democratic Party easily, given given the
Speaker 1: organizing that like Queen's d s A and uh, you
Speaker 1: know the Working Families Party have put in there and
Speaker 1: electing slates of like very progressive legislators to like the
Speaker 1: State Assembly, etcetera. Ye, I bet they duplicate this in
Speaker 1: two years. And yeah, like I can you name other
Speaker 1: states per se? Uh? I like having followed just like
Speaker 1: probably have been aware of like Bernie's success in Nevada
Speaker 1: as someone that was like highly involved in that campaign
Speaker 1: and Eates didn't not anything this year, and like watch
Speaker 1: the caucuses. Bernie like got an outrighting majority and the
Speaker 1: caucuses there last year. He killed that ship last year,
Speaker 1: And so I was like, oh, yeah, duff, you just
Speaker 1: take that same infrastructure, all the people that was out
Speaker 1: knocking on doors and all the people that was involved,
Speaker 1: and you just like keep a pushing and then you know,
Speaker 1: a year later, you take that ship over or whatever,
Speaker 1: you know, like I mean if the trajectories, if the
Speaker 1: trajectory keeps going the way that it is, yeah, I
Speaker 1: mean that's exactly what we're heading because I mean I
Speaker 1: don't even think we would be here if not for
Speaker 1: Bernie do it hadn't having on the things that he did.
Speaker 1: So yeah, yeah, and so like um, I was gonna say, um,
Speaker 1: it's all progress. There's been so much talk on like
Speaker 1: like with you know, the defeat of the Bernie campaign
Speaker 1: and like watching the rollout of the Biden administration somewhat skeptically,
Speaker 1: people being like third party politics are the way, and like,
Speaker 1: you know, seeing the defeat of people like Charles Booker
Speaker 1: and Kentucky or the Democratic establishment back Amy McGrath, a
Speaker 1: centrist like pro Trump or pro Trump Democrat, like all
Speaker 1: that kind of ship, you know, seeing the like people
Speaker 1: are like, oh, third party, you gotta do it. But
Speaker 1: now to have like like a like like a successful insurgency,
Speaker 1: successful insurgency where it's like, no, this party can be
Speaker 1: taken over and uh and we can do rad shit. Yeah,
Speaker 1: like people hope that it can be done. This is
Speaker 1: gonna be one of those funny episodes. I'm not even
Speaker 1: sure if we've done something like this before, not necessarily
Speaker 1: in terms of content, but just in terms of structure.
Speaker 1: Our political discussion and our music discussion are going to
Speaker 1: be one today, So we are going to be the
Speaker 1: It's what we're talking about today is so connected to
Speaker 1: the musical aspect of things that this whole thing is
Speaker 1: just gonna be one big discussion about both. And what
Speaker 1: that is is we're talking about hip hop's use as
Speaker 1: being a tool for propaganda. Yeah, I feel like we
Speaker 1: often discussed hip hop as like the megaphone of the people,
Speaker 1: both journalistically sort of uh, you know, telegraphing what's happening
Speaker 1: on the ground in various communities, but as a as
Speaker 1: a sizeable cultural force over the last forty fifty years,
Speaker 1: Like governments see that government's wanna want a piece of it,
Speaker 1: of its magic to do their bidding. And so we're
Speaker 1: gonna talk a little bit about that today. It doesn't
Speaker 1: necessarily just have to be governments either. I mean, at
Speaker 1: this at this point in the game, I think it's
Speaker 1: I think it's a totally fair assessment to say that
Speaker 1: mainstream American hip hop does serve as propaganda for other things.
Speaker 1: Like there's certain certain corporate interests, certain commercial interests, propaganda exactly. Yeah,
Speaker 1: even if it's not sanctioned exactly, it's all just a
Speaker 1: matter of where the arrows pointed in what you're trying
Speaker 1: to achieve with it. Um. So we're going to discuss
Speaker 1: that the examples of hip hop being used either a
Speaker 1: state sanctioned propaganda or just agenda driven propaganda, which will discuss.
Speaker 1: But first of all, what is propaganda. Let's go ahead
Speaker 1: and find our term. Okay, well, you know how I
Speaker 1: like my wiki definition. So for propaganda right now, we
Speaker 1: have Propaganda is the is communication that is primarily used
Speaker 1: to influence an audience and further in agenda which may
Speaker 1: not be objective and maybe since selectively presenting facts in
Speaker 1: order to encourage a particular synthesis or perception, or using
Speaker 1: loaded language in order to produce an emotional rather than
Speaker 1: rational response to the information that is being presented. Propaganda
Speaker 1: is often associated with material which is prepared by governments,
Speaker 1: but activist groups, companies, religious organizations, the media, and individuals
Speaker 1: are also produced propaganda. That is the first paragraph of
Speaker 1: the wiki definition. How do you feel about that definition?
Speaker 1: I feel well, I mean, I'm cool with the definition.
Speaker 1: It's interesting to me reflecting upon the connotation of propaganda,
Speaker 1: like when you hear the word propaganda, like is it
Speaker 1: negative or positive? I think, uh, as a you know,
Speaker 1: half Cold War kid and and war on terror kid,
Speaker 1: I think that, uh, propaganda has always had a negative
Speaker 1: connotation to me. It wasn't until you want to you
Speaker 1: wanna know some funny ship. The first person him that
Speaker 1: I heard actually use propaganda like positively to When I
Speaker 1: heard them say it, I was like, Ah, that's the
Speaker 1: way of looking at it is when we actually interviewed
Speaker 1: propaganda like second, second or or third episode, I think,
Speaker 1: but I remember it was probably it was off air,
Speaker 1: and he said something about, yeah, you know, I'm just
Speaker 1: you know, I'm out here trying to make this positive
Speaker 1: propaganda or like you know, and I was like, oh,
Speaker 1: that that is true, because like if you're if you're
Speaker 1: if you're advocating like a message or an agenda, then
Speaker 1: that is your propaganda. And that's not necessarily a negative
Speaker 1: thing coming from you. Propaganda as negative because because of it,
Speaker 1: you can be emotionally as pocative because of the selected
Speaker 1: presentation of information. But propaganda is also it's like water.
Speaker 1: Now we are fish just swimming through it all the time,
Speaker 1: be it you know, watching Jin Saks, press briefings, Achelian Agadenes,
Speaker 1: and it's like the way that information is fun to
Speaker 1: gain public appeal and trust. Uh, it's it's everywhere, it's
Speaker 1: all that's all the time. No one, no, no one's
Speaker 1: immune to it. So we might as well, like, if
Speaker 1: we want to get shipped done, if we have an agenda,
Speaker 1: if we have an ideology that we think will help
Speaker 1: lots of people, we might as well be producing propaganda.
Speaker 1: I think it's I think it's like the manipulative quality
Speaker 1: of it that I guess kind of makes it have
Speaker 1: a negative connotation to it because I mean, if you're
Speaker 1: if if you're out and you're speaking on behalf of
Speaker 1: what you believe in and somebody's like a boom, that's propaganda.
Speaker 1: Like you know what I'm saying, It just can't help.
Speaker 1: But it just seems it just seems like a pejorative
Speaker 1: just you wouldn't much rather just to present all the
Speaker 1: facts and have someone come to the same conclusion as
Speaker 1: you about what they mean exactly the yeah city or
Speaker 1: their perception. But I mean that's the nature of hot persuasion,
Speaker 1: you know, to persuade. Your persuasion isn't a logical, like
Speaker 1: isn't a holy logical like combat terrain. It it is
Speaker 1: emotionally evocative. You do appeal to people's lizard brains through
Speaker 1: the colors who use and the language, you know, being
Speaker 1: colorful as well, or like I just you know, like
Speaker 1: it doesn't have to be all about what the facts
Speaker 1: are as much as like, how do you appeal to folks?
Speaker 1: So I mean, I would love to live in the
Speaker 1: world in which like facts convinced people of like the
Speaker 1: right things to do on their own alone. And then
Speaker 1: and and and in the world in which everyone played
Speaker 1: by those rules. The fact of the matter is, we
Speaker 1: do not live in a world where everyone playing by
Speaker 1: those rules. Even if we committed to those rules, we
Speaker 1: would get our asses handed to us because everybody else
Speaker 1: has used it. But everybody who's snaky or dirty or
Speaker 1: slimier just like spinning whatever they've gotta do to get
Speaker 1: and we would get our asks into us. We would
Speaker 1: all be in the gulag. You can't be unarmed, and
Speaker 1: you have to you know, you have to come in
Speaker 1: with your got to come in with your righteous spine.
Speaker 1: So great to a gunfight yeah, get the propaganda going.
Speaker 1: Like I think all the raps I've written for the
Speaker 1: show or just generally lately have been propaganda for various causes.
Speaker 1: I would I would prefer to describe them as illustrations
Speaker 1: of policy physicians that are appealing aesthetically. That is what's
Speaker 1: propaganda about them, is that it doesn't necessarily just appeal
Speaker 1: to you on the level of fact. Also fun to
Speaker 1: listen to. You just reminded me of a rap line
Speaker 1: that had a good propaganda line, a Mortal Technique line
Speaker 1: from back in the day. There was a back after
Speaker 1: nine eleven, there was a song that was made right.
Speaker 1: It was a cover of Marvin Gay's What's going On?
Speaker 1: But it had like every pop star in existence at
Speaker 1: the time, like Brady Spears, Sea Aguilary, justin Timber like
Speaker 1: they were all the fucking nigga from Creators and that ship.
Speaker 1: It was just it was like a big you know,
Speaker 1: we are the world type of joy, right is the worst?
Speaker 1: Like I just that phrase. It was it. It was
Speaker 1: little TRL lineup. But I remember years later, a couple
Speaker 1: of years later, there was a Mortal Technique line and
Speaker 1: he was like, um, Marvin Gaye told me what's going
Speaker 1: on that Nick has made propaganda and your song, Um, yeah,
Speaker 1: we are going to get into this whole propaganda thing.
Speaker 1: Give you guys some pretty cool stories right after the jump. Alright,
Speaker 1: So in Cuba, there is a new rap track boldly
Speaker 1: denouncing the communist government, and it's gone viral. It's provoked
Speaker 1: anger in its response from the Cuban government, who fired
Speaker 1: back with their own patriotic state sanctioned salsa. Single musical
Speaker 1: battle between ideologies like it's like the it's like the
Speaker 1: most like ideologically laden raft beef I've ever heard of. Anyway.
Speaker 1: The anti government track, penned Pinte de Zona Bueno El
Speaker 1: Funky and make Losorbo, dubbed Fatherland and Life are Patriavida,
Speaker 1: is a flip on the hallowed patriot slogan fatherland or
Speaker 1: death slogan popularized by Fidel Castro during the nineteen Huban Revolution.
Speaker 1: Guinea Commas video opens with the image of nineteenth century
Speaker 1: Cuban hero Jose Marti, and it burns away to reveal
Speaker 1: George Washington, another quote unquote revolutionary, as well as images
Speaker 1: of poverty and protesters in the streets of Cuba. It's
Speaker 1: over your nineteen fifty nine I'm twenty single chorus implying
Speaker 1: the communist regime is held the Cuban people in the past.
Speaker 1: No more lies, My people demand freedom, no more doctrines.
Speaker 1: Those are also some lyrics from the track. Further lyrics
Speaker 1: in the song decry food and security on the island
Speaker 1: and some of the sometimes violent government repression of critique.
Speaker 1: Most of the artists on the track, including Um, are
Speaker 1: Cuban exiles. The only two living on the island still
Speaker 1: are El Funky and Michael, who are members of the
Speaker 1: artist collective San Citro. Um, who had one of his
Speaker 1: members actually imprisoned by the Cuban government and whose supporters
Speaker 1: a small group of supporters gathered outside of the culture
Speaker 1: industry in UH road tests. Uh. I think last year, UM,
Speaker 1: what are your thoughts on this? So, I mean, I
Speaker 1: think it's I mean, I'm interested into the degree to
Speaker 1: which and perhaps doing a little digging this would become
Speaker 1: you know, unearthed, Like this ideology flows from their decision
Speaker 1: to leave the country or whether they're living outside or
Speaker 1: or being ex pats exiles has has like given rise
Speaker 1: to this like burning hatred of communism. It was like
Speaker 1: we left Cuba because of communism, which many people did,
Speaker 1: or it's like living outside of Cuba and like being
Speaker 1: exposed to more capitalist ideology through the propaganda that circulates
Speaker 1: freely in other Western countries. It is like, you know what,
Speaker 1: actually fuck it back home, Like those motherfucker's don't know
Speaker 1: how to live? Yeah, well, I mean um. The article
Speaker 1: from the Financial Times which brought this story to our radar,
Speaker 1: it kind of mentions that, you know, there's a generational
Speaker 1: shift where there is a you know, a particularly strong
Speaker 1: anti government bent to the younger generation of Cubans. Um.
Speaker 1: The article did mention that that anti Cuban government bent
Speaker 1: also comes with a pro Trump leaning. So I'd be curious.
Speaker 1: I'd be curious as to whether what's the name youth,
Speaker 1: I'd be interested in what his his views are are
Speaker 1: of you know, the Trump administration or even America, just America,
Speaker 1: the American empire in general. Right, because in this song,
Speaker 1: they're kind of like wrapping about what they're against. They're
Speaker 1: against people waiting in breadlines, they're against government repression and censorship, um,
Speaker 1: but not really like articulate a vision of what they're for.
Speaker 1: So if it's like, yeah, uh, I don't wanna eth
Speaker 1: no state and like kill sex workers in life, you know,
Speaker 1: trans people, like send them to a lecture, shock therapy.
Speaker 1: I don't know, I don't know what they're for exactly.
Speaker 1: It's like it's hard to if you want to get
Speaker 1: on board because it's something revolutionary, but not all revolutions
Speaker 1: are in your favorite type of thing. Right if it
Speaker 1: weren't for the context in which the song would produced,
Speaker 1: like if you just picked it up and dropped it
Speaker 1: in the middle of Detroit or something like, the message
Speaker 1: still stands that, like, suck the government, suck the way
Speaker 1: your censorship and your repression. We've got people standing in
Speaker 1: breadlines in Texas, you know what I mean, Like, oh,
Speaker 1: you know, the poverty and all that stuff. So really
Speaker 1: it's like I get like, okay, we're you know, your
Speaker 1: in your experiences informed by like the system you've lived under,
Speaker 1: and so if you live under a communist regime, like
Speaker 1: you become a critical critical communism as much as living
Speaker 1: in a capitalist one. UM. We're like we've see everything
Speaker 1: going on and we're critiquing in we're like you know,
Speaker 1: hating in our songs, um. But it's all like it's
Speaker 1: all anti governments. Like I feel like this the generational
Speaker 1: divide that you're talking about. It is like young people
Speaker 1: don't are like anti authoritarians exactly exactly, and that's it.
Speaker 1: That's like what we all have in common, regardless of
Speaker 1: whether we're critiquing you know, communism, capitalism. Now, the song,
Speaker 1: which I'm going to call by its English title Father
Speaker 1: of Life because I don't want to put your any
Speaker 1: Spanish right now. Um, but the the song has received
Speaker 1: the predictable backlash from the official Cuban media. They've branded
Speaker 1: the rappers US loving traders and mercenaries tools of the Empire,
Speaker 1: and they've called the song an attempt at gross political interference.
Speaker 1: And the funny part about all this that like that's
Speaker 1: what I find hilarious and like, so what's the word
Speaker 1: for it? Just like so ham fisted, it's it's pretty
Speaker 1: much like a fucking propaganda off, you know, rap battle, well,
Speaker 1: I don't even know if you could call it rap
Speaker 1: battle or song song versus where the government has launched
Speaker 1: their own, like you said, salsa inspired rappi pop jingle
Speaker 1: that's entitled you want to Say that pat or Fatherland
Speaker 1: or death or Life, which it's play on both of
Speaker 1: the titles of like the slogan Fatherland or Death at
Speaker 1: the title of the other song, Fatherland and Life, So
Speaker 1: it's like fatherland or death for life. It really feels
Speaker 1: like we're gonna call our father later. Yeah, let's check
Speaker 1: out this track. Let's check out this track. The track
Speaker 1: featured the upper the Financial Times. The track features five
Speaker 1: officially sanctioned performers led by singer songwriter Raoul Torres, singing
Speaker 1: a robust salsa rebuttal to the rappers against the backdrop
Speaker 1: of the Cuban flag. You can his lyrics read you
Speaker 1: can cash in by licking the arrogance of the empire.
Speaker 1: And you can cash in by singing that you're against
Speaker 1: poverty from a satin sofa. I'm not even on a trip.
Speaker 1: And this is not because I'm a socialist, um Like
Speaker 1: this is purely on like lyrical grounds. I honestly think
Speaker 1: the salsa song is. But those lyrics you can cash
Speaker 1: in by licking the arrogance of the empire. That fucking bangs,
Speaker 1: are you kidding? That's can dope, Like I'm not even
Speaker 1: this also like that and that's like pretty ill as
Speaker 1: opposed to like, ohn't know the lyrics of the other
Speaker 1: song like a little week and like generic to everything.
Speaker 1: Everything has to be taken in context, right, because it's
Speaker 1: like if you don't if you just look at the
Speaker 1: video to the Rebuttal on its own, but you know
Speaker 1: the story, it really does seem like, you know what
Speaker 1: I mean, they're like in front of the Cuban flag
Speaker 1: and it's not as well produced. Their video has like
Speaker 1: an obviously lower budget than the Rappers video, so it
Speaker 1: just comes across looking and then everybody in the ship
Speaker 1: is like older. It just comes across looking like some
Speaker 1: hookey after school special stuff, especially when you know it's
Speaker 1: in Rebuttal to the rap song where everybody's got the
Speaker 1: shirt off look at all cool. You know, I'm saying
Speaker 1: it like looks like an actual like rap video and
Speaker 1: compared to comparison to this one. So I just seem
Speaker 1: to me is that in both videos, the Cuban flag
Speaker 1: is featured prominently in Patoo Patoo Vita, like one guy's
Speaker 1: got it like draped over his shoulders and so like
Speaker 1: it's interesting to me that there's this patriotism brought, this
Speaker 1: patriot patriotic current running it underneath both of them. The
Speaker 1: Patria Vita video is like I want freedom for by
Speaker 1: people like I love the people of my country. I
Speaker 1: got my flag like I want freedom for Cuba, um.
Speaker 1: Whereas like I feel like another like anti authoritarian like
Speaker 1: movement context. You wouldn't see somebody in like ah, like
Speaker 1: you down with the government. I guess actually that's wrong.
Speaker 1: I would love about that. You wouldn't see somebody like
Speaker 1: down with the government and like waving in American flag
Speaker 1: in the States. But then I'd forgot about Danny way six. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I'm wrong. I'd say all of that Antifa. You know,
Speaker 1: you wouldn't see like Antifa out with like American fat
Speaker 1: like yo the government like you would like. It didn't
Speaker 1: occur to me at first, and like, I don't know
Speaker 1: why it was patriot to them. I don't know if
Speaker 1: refreshing is the word, but there's something to be said about,
Speaker 1: you know, a sort of anti government sentiment that still
Speaker 1: is nationalistic at the same time, you know what I mean.
Speaker 1: Almost it's kind of like we love the place where
Speaker 1: we're from, but we hate the people in charge. I
Speaker 1: feel like people, Yeah, I don't know. Most of the
Speaker 1: anti authoritarian people I can think of in my life
Speaker 1: were like in my Twitter sphere are like no, man,
Speaker 1: like we need to start over and like from scratch,
Speaker 1: like America, we need to get rid of America kind
Speaker 1: of people, which is just just like, well, you know, there's
Speaker 1: the question of whether or not this is resonating. These
Speaker 1: two songs are resonating so far. The anti government track
Speaker 1: has three times the YouTube views as it's a government
Speaker 1: sanctioned rebuttal Um in interviews that the Financial Time Financial
Speaker 1: Times conducted with everyday Cubans, you know, the SENTI seems
Speaker 1: to be the people are aware of the issue, and
Speaker 1: they're aware of the government response. But you know, everyone's
Speaker 1: worried about putting food on the table and you know,
Speaker 1: avoiding Corona, and it's not necessarily something that people are
Speaker 1: talking about in the food cues. Yeah, people aren't worried
Speaker 1: about the ship. They're like, oh, there's like this rappive
Speaker 1: happening between my government some rappers. I would also say
Speaker 1: that the anti government track having three times as many
Speaker 1: views on YouTube might also speak to anti communist sentiment
Speaker 1: of general Cubans living outside of the US, which you know,
Speaker 1: people living in Florida, other expats, people within the communist
Speaker 1: views around the world be like oh hell yeah, that's
Speaker 1: dope versus like, you know, this is one explanation. Yeah,
Speaker 1: people are worried about this. I I don't blame them.
Speaker 1: I would let me laughing my ass office when she
Speaker 1: was going down to the United States. Do you mean
Speaker 1: to tell me, well, we'll see. That's the thing. It's like,
Speaker 1: what's just like when we were talking about Pablo a
Speaker 1: couple of weeks ago, It's like you can't even really
Speaker 1: imagine this sort of ship happening in the US. I mean,
Speaker 1: when when we're talking about American rat and in that context,
Speaker 1: it's like motherfucker's are getting arrested for other stuff. You know,
Speaker 1: like like rappers in the US aren't getting arrested because
Speaker 1: they said something that made the government mad. I'm not
Speaker 1: saying that it couldn't happen. I'm just saying, you know,
Speaker 1: rappers with the big enough platform aren't doing that. So
Speaker 1: and they haven't really done that for like thirty years.
Speaker 1: So it's like even imagining the situate, the scenario playing
Speaker 1: out in the US is is difficult to the closest
Speaker 1: thing I can imagine is the like rock the Vote,
Speaker 1: which isn't official. Yeah, but you know, it's kind of
Speaker 1: like corny and like people are like, do you want
Speaker 1: to know what an example of it would be. It
Speaker 1: would be if one of these maga's, what are these
Speaker 1: like maga insurrectionists? If they were a rapper, you know
Speaker 1: what I'm saying, Like, like if there was a Q
Speaker 1: and on rapper talking about like, hey, you gotta storm
Speaker 1: the capitol, you gotta kidnap the governor, Like yeah, that
Speaker 1: would get the FBI at your door. That that would
Speaker 1: that would probably bring the government down on you, at
Speaker 1: least the Biden administration. It's only a matter of time
Speaker 1: to the comfort no name that set god ship all
Speaker 1: episode on her political evolution and she's working on and
Speaker 1: the fact that she's definitely gonna get black back, but
Speaker 1: the government at some point, well, let's please knock on
Speaker 1: wood and yeah, please let her drop that album first.
Speaker 1: At least, god damn, she's got to be five. So
Speaker 1: we're gonna we're gonna teleport across the sea and we're
Speaker 1: gonna go to the People's Republic of China. Talk about
Speaker 1: the hip hop group c D Rev in their two
Speaker 1: thousand sixteen track This is China. Now, let's take a
Speaker 1: listen to this, because I really do believe that this
Speaker 1: is incredible and none of goods he made this song.
Speaker 1: According to them, this is too correct some misconceptions about
Speaker 1: contemporary China. So his his point that he was making
Speaker 1: about the pollution as he was saying, yeah, we have pollution,
Speaker 1: but so did l A. I mean, you know, as
Speaker 1: far as as far as um maliciousness goes, it's not
Speaker 1: very malicious or anything like that, but it's just it's
Speaker 1: like walking that fine line where it definitely does seem
Speaker 1: like it's state run. There was a article in the
Speaker 1: Communications and Critical Cultural Studies shan Zu, and the point
Speaker 1: was made that while CD revs hip hop may not
Speaker 1: look like conventional propaganda, it functions as ideo attainment, which
Speaker 1: fuses state interests in citizens nationalism. And I think that's
Speaker 1: that's kind of the fine line that they draw, because
Speaker 1: I mean, if you told me that that had the
Speaker 1: backing of like the Chinese government, I would believe it.
Speaker 1: But if you told me that that was just some kids,
Speaker 1: you know, some contemporary kids in China just making you know,
Speaker 1: pro China hip hop, it could kind of sound like
Speaker 1: that too. It hasn't very yeah, exactly, it has a
Speaker 1: repping where they're from sort of vibe to it that
Speaker 1: you know can and and because they wrap in English too,
Speaker 1: I guess that's another aspect of it, that there might
Speaker 1: be a little bit of trans a little bit of
Speaker 1: meaning that that's being distorted in translation because because they're
Speaker 1: wrapping in English, it really makes the propaganda end of
Speaker 1: it shine because it's not really rhyming that much. You know,
Speaker 1: it's just like question like who's it for exactly? It's
Speaker 1: not in their native tongue. It's like if you're you're
Speaker 1: producing in English so that English speakers will hear it,
Speaker 1: You're what, like why are you like? That awareness of
Speaker 1: audience makes you feel like it's propaganda in that they're
Speaker 1: trying to convince you of something about that we're a
Speaker 1: country as opposed to like just reporting on it to
Speaker 1: other people who have that same like cultural like foundation
Speaker 1: of like shared a shared language. Well, how do you feel? Um?
Speaker 1: You know? A few months ago, when the protests in
Speaker 1: Hong Kong were really revving up, they dropped the track
Speaker 1: that was essentially a diss song to the protesters, like
Speaker 1: why are you protesting? Get off the streets, like the
Speaker 1: Chinese government wants to help you, you're ruining everything like,
Speaker 1: those are the sentiments that were expressed in that song democracy,
Speaker 1: Why yea are we somewhere so hard to seek again?
Speaker 1: It's like if you didn't think that they were of
Speaker 1: government funded propaganda group in that Hong Kong one definitely
Speaker 1: kind of makes it feel like they might be hip hopping.
Speaker 1: The powerful cultural tool that it can be. It's capabilities
Speaker 1: UM have been used for propaganda across respection possible. In Europe,
Speaker 1: counter terrorists, experts and authorities have been monitoring what they
Speaker 1: called jihad rap for Salon. American and European terrorism experts
Speaker 1: have been increasingly and concerned over anti American hip hop UM,
Speaker 1: accending the radicalizing influence of the genre, noting that Al Shabab,
Speaker 1: a Somali based Islamist group, uses jihad wrap and its
Speaker 1: recruitment videos. Avand scholar disca stern and foretant affairs first
Speaker 1: and second generation Muslim children I interviewed for study of
Speaker 1: the sources of radicalization and the Netherlands seemed to think
Speaker 1: that talking about g hop was cool in the same
Speaker 1: way that listening to gangster wrap and is cool in
Speaker 1: some use circles. Others have advocated mobilizing certain substyles of
Speaker 1: hip hop against this jihad cool and you're a hip
Speaker 1: hop is used, is being used to enlist is hip
Speaker 1: hop is being enlisted in a broad ideological offensive to
Speaker 1: counter domestic extremism. On the one side, you have these
Speaker 1: counter cold the way that hip hop is, you know,
Speaker 1: it's like foundationally countercultural. Like it's cool because it's gritty
Speaker 1: and it's from the streets. Some people you know that
Speaker 1: I guess have created a matter where stre you know,
Speaker 1: no matter where your streets are. Yeah, and so it's like, yo,
Speaker 1: I you know, gihad is cool because it's it's it's
Speaker 1: anti establishment, it's anti it's uh, it's like this a
Speaker 1: way to organize ourselves outside of the main stream and
Speaker 1: pushed back against it, which is just like kind of
Speaker 1: horrifying to me, but like it makes sense in a way,
Speaker 1: like oh of course, like yeah, I see how that's
Speaker 1: that slope would be slippery, and I do. I do
Speaker 1: like that gangster rap comparison too, because it's like something
Speaker 1: can start from one place, you know what I'm saying,
Speaker 1: but in the wrong hands it can be used to
Speaker 1: cause harm, you know what I'm saying, Like like all
Speaker 1: the way around. Um, like the Cuban government. The Western
Speaker 1: Powers have pondered countering this with moderate Muslim hip hop voices. However,
Speaker 1: they've been much more hesitant to just outright do so
Speaker 1: like the Cuban government has, and it's mainly because they
Speaker 1: don't necessarily know who they should really be fucking without.
Speaker 1: In the music video, are these guys cool? No? I
Speaker 1: don't like that. There's an example of them getting burned.
Speaker 1: So in the Netherlands, there's a Dutch Moroccan rapper by
Speaker 1: the name of Salah a Dean and he dropped a
Speaker 1: song and video called Van or This Country of Uh.
Speaker 1: In the song he criticizes the government, which in the
Speaker 1: Netherlands is becoming increasingly more conservative. He criticizes the red
Speaker 1: light district with lines like this land that sells women
Speaker 1: from behind window panes um And in the video he's
Speaker 1: got like some terrorist imagery. There's like a scene of
Speaker 1: a grandfather of who's got a suicide vest on. He's
Speaker 1: being detained by the police. And even uh A Dean
Speaker 1: himself appears at the beginning of the video where he's
Speaker 1: clean shaven and he's in a house and he you know,
Speaker 1: he's in like a regular domesticated house and he's rapping,
Speaker 1: and as the video goes on, his face becomes more scruffy,
Speaker 1: until by the time you get to the end of
Speaker 1: the song, he's got a full beard. He's wearing a
Speaker 1: Guantanamo jumpsuit and he's about to get water boarded and
Speaker 1: stuff like that. So yeah, I mean, and in my opinion,
Speaker 1: it's done artfully. But this is the only song in
Speaker 1: video that I've seen of the guy before I go
Speaker 1: ahead and co signed from from my opinion and also
Speaker 1: not understanding the words, but it seems like, you know,
Speaker 1: it's an artful take on controversial subject matter. But in
Speaker 1: any event, the video was paid for by a grant
Speaker 1: from the Dutch Ministry of Culture that a dean had
Speaker 1: received for the video's production. So this caused the ship storm.
Speaker 1: You know, we're voting it's um let's listen to that
Speaker 1: song real from the Best Muslim hatless slum out Father. Still,
Speaker 1: you know it's like this. I can see what they
Speaker 1: I see what they mean because you know, we experienced
Speaker 1: this on our end too. It's like hip hop makes
Speaker 1: ship cool. I'm sorry, it just does. It makes stuff cool.
Speaker 1: It there's a there's a sleekness and there's a mystique
Speaker 1: to it that it provides to whatever you're talking about.
Speaker 1: Like I'm old enough to remember when you know, people
Speaker 1: weren't really fucking with pimps like that, you know what
Speaker 1: I'm saying, And like pimps became cool at some point
Speaker 1: because rappers started talking about them favorably and ship like that.
Speaker 1: Now I'm not I'm not, you know, saying that a
Speaker 1: dean is necessarily promoting terrorism or anything through this song,
Speaker 1: but there is a there's a chic to it, you know. Yeah,
Speaker 1: it raises the conversation again of like like documentation versus promotion,
Speaker 1: like to like the the accusal hip hop oftentimes faces
Speaker 1: of like promoting violence, promoting drug dealing, promoting these things.
Speaker 1: When it's like or are people just describing it like
Speaker 1: they're just like they're just telling you what's happening, rather
Speaker 1: than like, oh I think it's cool. I mean, sometimes
Speaker 1: yeah it is, Oh yeah, I think that's cool. But
Speaker 1: I'm notimes just like yo, shot a guy what and
Speaker 1: they're like just you know, documenting their experiences. I think it, um,
Speaker 1: it's like a case by case basis. With me, I
Speaker 1: don't think that it can be like broadly painted that way.
Speaker 1: I think that, Um, you know, it's like when you
Speaker 1: when you see it, you when you hear it, you
Speaker 1: know it. You know what I'm saying, Like if when
Speaker 1: you hear somebody who's documenting things that they've seen and
Speaker 1: they're presenting, even if it has a little bit of
Speaker 1: that glamorizing you know, vibe to it, there's a way
Speaker 1: to go about something like you're documenting it. Then there's
Speaker 1: a way to go about it like you know, you're
Speaker 1: just promoting some ship. I don't necessarily think that any
Speaker 1: depiction of something is the equivalent of a of advocacy,
Speaker 1: you know, like just he could just be documenting present
Speaker 1: presenting like a like a uh, it's like a a
Speaker 1: portrait of radicalization. Well, the people in the Netherlands should
Speaker 1: chill and we're talking about this dude, because Aden has
Speaker 1: nothing on the next guy who we're going to talk about.
Speaker 1: So there is a Well was an extremely popular German
Speaker 1: rapper by the name of Deso dog Um. He had
Speaker 1: a hit song called and I'm going to butcher this
Speaker 1: German Welcome in in minor world or welcome to my world.
Speaker 1: Let's check that out real quick now, he um he
Speaker 1: he was extremely popular for a long time after he
Speaker 1: converted to Islam and started being a lot more open
Speaker 1: with it in his music and his image. Things just
Speaker 1: kind of started spiraling from there. In eleven, he was
Speaker 1: alleged to have inspired a twenty one year old uh
Speaker 1: Kosovar to fire at a busload of American serviceman in Frankfurt,
Speaker 1: and he would eventually just leave Europe altogether and actually
Speaker 1: go to Syria to fight with ISIS. And now he's
Speaker 1: actually like a wanted propaganda minister, like official propaganda minister
Speaker 1: for ISIS. But yeah, his stuff, if you look at
Speaker 1: some of his things, which you know, it's it's hard
Speaker 1: to find them on YouTube for obvious reasons, but it's
Speaker 1: like it's it's the difference between that and a Dean
Speaker 1: is completely stark. You know what I'm saying. It makes
Speaker 1: it makes the video and the song that we just
Speaker 1: heard seem like a Martin Scorsese piece of art as
Speaker 1: opposed to like something that just looks like a terrorist
Speaker 1: video with a beat. Yeah, you know what I'm saying,
Speaker 1: Like like this this guy like hardcore. I don't even
Speaker 1: know if you could call that self radicalization, but it's
Speaker 1: almost like he had a self fulfilling prophecy. The more
Speaker 1: radicalized that he got to the point where it's like, oh,
Speaker 1: I guess there's nothing to do now but go join
Speaker 1: islis So I mean like what what do what? Do you? What?
Speaker 1: Do you? What? Do you think that was the cause
Speaker 1: of that? Do you think that he was do you
Speaker 1: think he radicalized himself? Or do you think opening his
Speaker 1: his music and his his id to that sort of
Speaker 1: philosophy kind of influenced where his dijectory went. I mean,
Speaker 1: I think I think radicalization comes into directions. It comes
Speaker 1: from the the ambient, like, uh, social problems that we experienced,
Speaker 1: like telling us that something is not right about the
Speaker 1: way things are, and then the media we could consume, uh,
Speaker 1: then providing an answer to those questions right, and so
Speaker 1: Like I can't speak to the German context of like
Speaker 1: what particular things he may have been experiencing in his
Speaker 1: life that drove him in this direction, but I mean
Speaker 1: I imagine something environmental was like hey, yo, fuck this,
Speaker 1: and not only funck this, but like how do I
Speaker 1: fuck this? Ah? Yes? Isis this is the way? Uh?
Speaker 1: And so like the internet then providing this uh, this
Speaker 1: wormhole which we all get stucked down to various directions
Speaker 1: thanks YouTube. We would consider this to be right wing
Speaker 1: radicalization though correct, Like if you go from being a
Speaker 1: German gangster rapper to being like a full fledged member
Speaker 1: of ISIS. Yeah, Like that's that is the equivalent of
Speaker 1: in two years of seeing storm the Capital wrap nigga. Yeah,
Speaker 1: we storm in the Capitol, we hit in cops with flags, Yeah, wyoming.
Speaker 1: Wh Let's bring it back to Cuba. Okay, let's let's
Speaker 1: let's circle. Let's bring it back full circle. Let's come
Speaker 1: back to Cuba. Yeah. So we started off talking about
Speaker 1: you know, anti government versus pro government propaganda being produced,
Speaker 1: but I think that we need to understand a bit
Speaker 1: about the context of how hip hop has been used
Speaker 1: in Cuba, like in recent years as well as just
Speaker 1: like historically, to kind of cast some light on some
Speaker 1: implications of this anti government song. So it came out
Speaker 1: where what you're where is the link to this article?
Speaker 1: Um So. In two thousand and thirteen, two thousand fourteen,
Speaker 1: it emerged that, uh, the US was attempting to unseek
Speaker 1: Cuba's communist government through infiltration of the Cuban rap scene.
Speaker 1: The American Development Aid Organization us AID I've been secularly
Speaker 1: trying to infiltrate Cuba's underground hip hop movement. According to
Speaker 1: records obtained about the Associate Press and the idea was
Speaker 1: to use Cuba's rappers to break the information blockade and
Speaker 1: build a network of young people seeking social change to
Speaker 1: spark a youth movement against the the government of President
Speaker 1: Royal Castra. Now to understand this, we got to talk
Speaker 1: a little bit about the Cuban ap group Lost Lost,
Speaker 1: as they are anti government underground rap group. Let's check
Speaker 1: out the song of their's with Richard's translates to wrap
Speaker 1: his Wars instrumental. Is that's a jay Z instrumental that
Speaker 1: they did that over that? That is the jay Z
Speaker 1: song Moment of Clarity produced by Eminem. I believe. Yeah,
Speaker 1: they're adored by the people over there for with lyrics
Speaker 1: that are like, um, I'm tired of following their plans.
Speaker 1: Socialism or death is not a slogan. They also wrapped
Speaker 1: people marching blind. You have no credibility. Go tell the
Speaker 1: captain the ship's sinking rapidly. Um, they're there, Like I said,
Speaker 1: their beloved for their outspokenness. Um, they've been banned from
Speaker 1: performing in Havana because you know they're they're because their
Speaker 1: anti government raps. So that's putting them in context, so
Speaker 1: Daryn Kavanaugh of the blog wars Boring. He explains, the
Speaker 1: Cuban government initially treated hip hop and rap much the
Speaker 1: same way dealt with other important music. The Ministry of
Speaker 1: Culture didn't ban it, but didn't support it either. That
Speaker 1: changed in two thousand and two when the ministry created
Speaker 1: the Cuban Rap Agency. The agencies reported hip hop on
Speaker 1: the island and promoted Cuba's hip hop stars abroad. The
Speaker 1: government endorsed the Jammer provided that performers um towed the
Speaker 1: Communist Party's line cop Caster government banned outspoken critics, such
Speaker 1: as the rap group Los Orleanos from performing publicly in Havannah.
Speaker 1: On the other hand, um that since the ship forth
Speaker 1: the group to join hip hop the Cuban hip hop
Speaker 1: underground despite the group's popularity, U s aid gave the
Speaker 1: Creative Associates International, which was a development company based in Washington,
Speaker 1: d C. Gave them a con track to coordinate a
Speaker 1: multimillion dollar plan in Cuba that involved promoting hip hop
Speaker 1: performers and throwing festivals and things like that. And admittedly
Speaker 1: it was soft, you know, soft financial support and in
Speaker 1: terms of lost how do you say that again, in
Speaker 1: the case of loss Altianos, uh, this aid was provided
Speaker 1: without their explicit knowledge. But you know, if you're if
Speaker 1: you're getting money from U. S. A. D. And they're
Speaker 1: helping you out and sending you abroad to go to
Speaker 1: leadership UH seminars and stuff like that, I guess you
Speaker 1: can kind of put two and two together if you're them.
Speaker 1: But that's a negative though picture that the years twenty
Speaker 1: Associated Press dropped a bombshell that little Yadi is a
Speaker 1: part of co Intel Pro two. I'm not I'm not
Speaker 1: just spread capitalist propaga and I'm not smiling because that's
Speaker 1: not out of the realm of possibility. If we met
Speaker 1: a part in other countries. God knows what's happening in ours.
Speaker 1: I mean, there's a good chance that fucking like Anderson
Speaker 1: Cooper is, there's a good chance that news anchors, in
Speaker 1: in in social media influencers are all fucking fans. So yeah,
Speaker 1: I would not doubt it that if it came out
Speaker 1: that some some of these rat cats out there working
Speaker 1: with them people, I don't know that I would necessarily
Speaker 1: be surprised, y'all motherfucker's might be surprised. I wouldn't be surprised.
Speaker 1: The most unrealistic thing about the scenario is described. It
Speaker 1: is the part where we find out it's going on. Yeah, well,
Speaker 1: I mean if if there was okay, so if if
Speaker 1: we were if we had that in our myths right like, like, okay,
Speaker 1: let's let's do a little irresponsible speculation right now. If
Speaker 1: we had that in our myths, Let's say we had
Speaker 1: the we we did the mission impossible breaking into Langley,
Speaker 1: and we got out only half the information. The information confirmed, Yes,
Speaker 1: made there are cabal of mainstream rappers that are working
Speaker 1: with the FEDS that our secret propaganda you know, minister
Speaker 1: like secret propagandasts for the United States federal government. Who
Speaker 1: would it be? We? We? I mean you came out
Speaker 1: with little YADDI. First, I was gonna go, I don't,
Speaker 1: I don't want to him today, I was gonna say Pump,
Speaker 1: so like they're kind of in the same vein, So
Speaker 1: I'd say pump. If if it came out that Pump
Speaker 1: was a fed those recruited when he was sixteen, Jez's
Speaker 1: held up as like, oh, black capitalism at its pinnacle,
Speaker 1: like why we gotta hustle and drive and like yeah yeah,
Speaker 1: like oh, how do you get billion dollars Nigga Rick
Speaker 1: Cross that federal grant money? Um? Yeah, you know, I
Speaker 1: don't want to speculate about this anymore. I'm hearing beeps
Speaker 1: of my ship. Well, um yeah, So that's that's what
Speaker 1: we've got today. You guys go check out some of
Speaker 1: those songs and videos because some of them are actually
Speaker 1: quite quite stirring and interesting to listen to. And I
Speaker 1: would always like to promote international rap, even if some
Speaker 1: of it I don't believe, you know, necessarily line up
Speaker 1: with politically. It is cool if you're a hip hop
Speaker 1: fan too, soap that in into just to see what's
Speaker 1: going on in different scenes across the world, because this
Speaker 1: hip hop thing of ours can be used for a lot.
Speaker 1: Some of it's a lot of it's good, but some
Speaker 1: of it can be bad, and some of it so
Speaker 1: not even necessarily for of the people, you know, So
Speaker 1: it's you gotta keep your eyes open and your ears
Speaker 1: open for that. But all right, I'm like, Frank, huh,
Speaker 1: I'm dope knife And we're not getting off that easy.
Speaker 1: Because Joel dropped a motherfucking beat waiting a reparations. Yeo, Yo.
Speaker 1: You ever notice how everybody rap about the same ship
Speaker 1: thirty years and I'm still waiting for the name switch
Speaker 1: all around the world, same song and the same griff.
Speaker 1: Ain't no one in power was thinking ya ship is dangerous.
Speaker 1: Matter of fact, probably ghost road is. You're so focused,
Speaker 1: whole motive backing like you're working for the old potus,
Speaker 1: making my soul focused. You're gonna learn like I'm old, oldest,
Speaker 1: cuss your grass out, make it full throated. I'm old logan.
Speaker 1: I ain't dying to lee and they're trying to bring
Speaker 1: wash you with lying and pretend. So I try to
Speaker 1: recommend dope ship. You can try it with your friend.
Speaker 1: I'm grown. I ain't trying to set a trend. Dope
Speaker 1: dope y dope knife, I'm legal, Franca. We are waiting
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