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Speaker 1: Welcome to Sharper Swear, presented by hard Rock Bat. We

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Speaker 1: are a part of the Volume podcast network. This is

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Speaker 1: the betting show that makes the squares. Sharper makes the

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Speaker 1: wise guys pay attention. I am Chad moment and I

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Speaker 1: am joined by my bff, my companion, my compadre, professional

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Speaker 1: better Simon Hunter.

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Speaker 2: Hello, So I'm in Chad. Are we doing dude?

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Speaker 1: Too much? Sports? Too much? Sports impolish tonight? I like

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Speaker 1: Thursday night, Friday night, Saturday night, Sunday night, Monday night.

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Speaker 1: I can't stay up this late.

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Speaker 2: I love it, but I don't. I have no life,

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Speaker 2: so this is this is my life. So this is

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Speaker 2: what I live for. So I saw a bunch of

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Speaker 2: people complaining about NFL schedule, like there's an the England

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Speaker 2: game and then you know, we got the two doubleheaders

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Speaker 2: on Monday, and it's just too much. And I'm just like,

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Speaker 2: I want it, I want more. I wish there was

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Speaker 2: after that game ended, I could go for another Pacific

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Speaker 2: game right now. I wish there was a Seahawks for

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Speaker 2: you game right now. So between the baseball and the

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Speaker 2: football last night had all four on the same TV.

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Speaker 2: It's like, man, this is this is good stuff. Right now.

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Speaker 1: I got to get up in the morning. I got

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Speaker 1: an exercise. I don't have time for staying up till midnight.

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Speaker 1: Everyone for the sports, We're going to get to this

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Speaker 1: Bears game, because obviously I'm gonna have strong opinions about it,

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Speaker 1: but I want to talk about it when we actually

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Speaker 1: talk about the Bears and the Saints, because you've been

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Speaker 1: loving the Saints all year, so I want to save

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Speaker 1: that for that conversation. I do want to pour one out, Simon,

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Speaker 1: for Brian Callahan, the Titans head coach for all of

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Speaker 1: twenty three games. In those twenty three games, he went

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Speaker 1: four and nineteen against the spread, including a historically bad

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Speaker 1: two and fifteen against the spread last year. He was

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Speaker 1: somehow two and four this year against the spread. They

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Speaker 1: covered their first game of the year against the Broncos

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Speaker 1: at eight and a half. We actually bet on them.

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Speaker 1: They miraculously covered ten days ago. Go again against the Cardinals.

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Speaker 1: I know that was a crushing blow for many of us.

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Speaker 1: Here's a pop quiz for you, Simon.

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Speaker 2: Are you ready, yes, sir?

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Speaker 1: On average? Can you tell me the spread average spread

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Speaker 1: by which the Titans were underdogs in those nineteen losses.

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Speaker 2: But it's six three and a half. Wow, a lot

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Speaker 2: of respect.

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Speaker 1: Closer than I expected.

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Speaker 2: Right.

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Speaker 1: Can you tell me on average how many points per

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Speaker 1: game the Titans lost those nineteen games?

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Speaker 2: Thirteen, dude, thirteen and a half.

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Speaker 1: That was amazing. During his tenure, Brian Callahan not only

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Speaker 1: was one of the worst coaches in the NFL, yeah,

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Speaker 1: and the worst coaches in the NFL in history overall

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Speaker 1: against the spread, he lost against the spread by an

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Speaker 1: average of ten points per game. That's why everyone kept saying, Hey,

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Speaker 1: why don't you just fade the Titans. You're gonna make

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Speaker 1: all the money. Because he was losing against the spread

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Speaker 1: by an average of ten points per game. They almost

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Speaker 1: never made anyone betting against them sweat. They were out

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Speaker 1: of it in nearly every game they played. That's the

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Speaker 1: end of an era, and that's you know, bad for us.

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Speaker 1: There you go, except that one game against the Cardinals.

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Speaker 1: We're all survived and suffered brutal. We went four and

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Speaker 1: one last week, and our five favorite picks from the

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Speaker 1: Sunday Morning Show. We won with the Chiefs, the Panthers,

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Speaker 1: the Steelers, and the Raiders. Should be seeing the graphics.

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Speaker 1: We lost with the Colts. Make sure you check out

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Speaker 1: that Sunday Am show if you want the games that

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Speaker 1: will be our official five after we've had a chance

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Speaker 1: to review everything. The Tuesday Show is where you will

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Speaker 1: get our official up to date record for the year. Simon,

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Speaker 1: we are now nineteen and eleven through six weeks, thirty games,

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Speaker 1: five games a week against the spread for six weeks.

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Speaker 1: We are nineteen and eleven. That's not bad.

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Speaker 2: No, we'll take it. It's good start.

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Speaker 1: This is our Tuesday Show. We're gonna review the entire slate.

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Speaker 1: Got an Amazon Prime game Thursday Night Football, eight fifteen

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Speaker 1: pm Eastern. Already too late for me. There's no way

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Speaker 1: I'm staying up past halftime for this game. But I

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Speaker 1: will have a bet on this game. Did you see

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Speaker 1: Simon Mike Tomlin's post game pressure when he was asked

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Speaker 2: Shocking to me.

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Speaker 3: Andrew Berry must be a lot smarter than me or us,

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Speaker 1: All right, Look, he's mad, Mike Tomlin, He's really mad.

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Speaker 1: Here are the facts, regardless of how mad he is.

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Speaker 1: And I think this could be why he's mad. Mike

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Speaker 1: Mike Tomlin. Spot this, ain't it. I love to love

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Speaker 1: the Steelers. I don't. I'm not saying we saw enough

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Speaker 2: I said, I was never gonna waste time in this game.

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Speaker 2: I'll end up on the Bengals, but with very very

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Speaker 1: Chad Millman is not afraid to make a pick.

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Speaker 2: Simon, Okay, make one.

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Speaker 1: I did. I made the Bengals the pick.

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Speaker 1: Give it guess what on Sunday, I don't even know.

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Speaker 1: If you make it to this game nine thirty am Eastern,

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Speaker 1: I I gotta say, I hate these London games and

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Speaker 1: I hate the Monday night doubleheaders. I'm with the fans

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Speaker 1: what happened in this game? Los Angeles Rams Jacksonville Jaguars.

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Speaker 1: We talked about it Sunday. You leaned Jags on Sunday.

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Speaker 2: And I'm shocked this numbers already moved. I thought I

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Speaker 2: And yeah, we're it's a weird season where teams are

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Speaker 2: There's still threes out there. I'd be on the Jaguars

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Speaker 2: They're dumb. A football head like me, I love it.

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Speaker 2: So it's it's a shit show every time. Like Chad said,

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Speaker 2: so I'm gonna take the Jags who are used to it.

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Speaker 2: We know the Rams are a better team. This is

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Speaker 2: not a Trevor Lawrence bet. This is honestly a bet

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Speaker 2: on the flukiness, the randomness of London and the fact

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Speaker 2: that we're catching points on a team that honestly feels

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Speaker 2: shocked that it was three. The movement makes sense professionally.

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Speaker 2: This is gonna be all Jags money, Like I honestly

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Speaker 2: just because people are thinking, just like me, they're gonna

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Speaker 2: see the trends the Jags win, they cover when they

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Speaker 2: go to London, and why would you take the minus

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Speaker 2: it holds it two and a half, If it's minus

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm glad you mentioned Trevor Lawrence because he's still trash. Like, honestly,

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Speaker 1: you're always going to be betting on the Jags in

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Speaker 1: Like Mahomes is a favorite of more than three, which

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Speaker 2: Yeah, And it's tough for me with this Chiefs one

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Speaker 2: right that exact spot, betting so heavy on a team

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Speaker 2: They've always played really well against the Chiefs and held

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Speaker 2: Yeah, last week I talked about Green Bay getting them

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Speaker 2: A lot of people are going to be doing that.

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Speaker 2: I will stay away. I will either be on the

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Speaker 2: money line. Just stinky, stinky game here, dude, plug your nose.

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Speaker 2: It stinks. The Raiders can easily get rolled. We all

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Speaker 2: we get thirteen. At thirteen, I feel comfortable taking this

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Speaker 2: there's no need, no need of rushing them, just a

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Speaker 1: Yeah, And look there are if like we always say,

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Speaker 2: It's all on that I'm trying to me. You hate

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Speaker 2: GENO right now, we hate Geno. Well, geno matchup.

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Speaker 1: We totally hate Geno. But here's here's why. Like, just

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Speaker 2: But and we talk all the time that Max Krosby effect.

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Speaker 2: This is totally dream matchup for him. He's either got

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Speaker 2: So Max, every time we bet the Raiders, we talk

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Speaker 2: he's just an absolute game record game changering. This is

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Speaker 2: another favorable matchup rahim against an offensive line that wasn't

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Speaker 1: Yep, totally true. And this is one of those backdoor

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Speaker 2: I'm praying for a twelve nine game, or the.

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Speaker 1: Back door is open and Gino's gonna let them walk

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Speaker 2: watching Gino's film, it's so brutal right now.

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Speaker 1: It's terrible, truly terrible. I can't believe I'm doing this.

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Speaker 1: This is a Browns game. We said on Sunday, there

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Speaker 1: The number one factor is when this defense is at home.

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Speaker 1: They are the pacifists of defenses. The Cleveland Browns minus

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Speaker 2: Are you willing to make a choice? What choice? We

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Speaker 2: see it, you know what I mean? Well, Chad, everyone

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Speaker 2: And it's the Cleveland Browns, and what are.

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Speaker 1: We gonna do? Three games that came down to Chad choice.

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Speaker 2: I'll take it. I'm on it with you. The pros

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Speaker 2: you can't, I mean, unfortunately it is minus one twenty,

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Speaker 2: The general public won't. I think the majority of them

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Speaker 2: it's a brown seen that just looked very futrid. These

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Speaker 2: You don't win this with this kid. How does ownership

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Speaker 2: They gave him leeway because it wasn't his. Watson was

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Speaker 2: we've talked all year about it. I didn't envision their

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Speaker 2: They've been futured as well, So come on, you have

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Speaker 2: It's a good pick here on Tuesday.

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Speaker 1: Deshaun that wasn't his idea. They've now gone all in

430
00:23:14,640 --> 00:23:18,400
Speaker 1: on Flacco. That's not his fault. Like Mike Tomlin called

431
00:23:18,400 --> 00:23:22,000
Speaker 1: out Andrew Berry. Why is it like Stefanski has done

432
00:23:22,040 --> 00:23:25,879
Speaker 1: the best he can do with a terrible situation, and

433
00:23:26,000 --> 00:23:30,920
Speaker 1: he keeps getting quarterbacks who are not close to replacement level,

434
00:23:31,440 --> 00:23:34,879
Speaker 1: and so why should he get fired? Why isn't the

435
00:23:34,920 --> 00:23:36,040
Speaker 1: GM getting fired.

436
00:23:38,000 --> 00:23:40,400
Speaker 2: Fair? It's all fair, But at the same time, it's

437
00:23:41,600 --> 00:23:43,760
Speaker 2: he had if he if he is just a puppet,

438
00:23:44,359 --> 00:23:47,000
Speaker 2: then yeah, you're right, but he has to be making

439
00:23:47,080 --> 00:23:49,800
Speaker 2: decision at this point. He can't be letting. He can't

440
00:23:49,840 --> 00:23:51,920
Speaker 2: be still getting railroaded by a GM that's failed to

441
00:23:51,960 --> 00:23:53,800
Speaker 2: a miserable like you just said, in so many different ways,

442
00:23:53,840 --> 00:23:55,320
Speaker 2: I just don't believe that. I think a lot of

443
00:23:55,400 --> 00:23:57,880
Speaker 2: this is I just never thought he likes you to Door,

444
00:23:58,200 --> 00:23:59,680
Speaker 2: I think that like you said, I think the gym

445
00:23:59,720 --> 00:24:02,160
Speaker 2: made that pick or the owner did, and he's never

446
00:24:02,400 --> 00:24:04,840
Speaker 2: liked it. Where at this point you just at least

447
00:24:04,880 --> 00:24:06,600
Speaker 2: have to see put him out there, let him fail,

448
00:24:06,720 --> 00:24:08,440
Speaker 2: and no one will ask again. Someone like me will

449
00:24:08,480 --> 00:24:10,800
Speaker 2: not care. I just think your Door is a gamer,

450
00:24:10,920 --> 00:24:13,720
Speaker 2: and it's like, right now, Dylan Gabriel at five to

451
00:24:13,760 --> 00:24:17,760
Speaker 2: eleven not athletic, doesn't have a big arm, what are

452
00:24:17,760 --> 00:24:19,560
Speaker 2: we doing here? This guy will never be a pro

453
00:24:19,680 --> 00:24:21,560
Speaker 2: in this league. It does you need to at least

454
00:24:21,560 --> 00:24:24,920
Speaker 2: do one thing great in football and five categories. He

455
00:24:25,080 --> 00:24:27,640
Speaker 2: is zero for five in all the categories. So I'm

456
00:24:27,760 --> 00:24:30,280
Speaker 2: just I'm not seeing it with your Door. We've at

457
00:24:30,320 --> 00:24:32,400
Speaker 2: least seen the arm, talent and some of the athleticism.

458
00:24:32,520 --> 00:24:35,120
Speaker 2: So that's just my push against the fans get this point.

459
00:24:35,160 --> 00:24:38,040
Speaker 2: It's just this to me is the dream matchup. If

460
00:24:38,080 --> 00:24:40,960
Speaker 2: at half you have three to zero points, you must

461
00:24:41,080 --> 00:24:44,040
Speaker 2: make a QB change ownership. I believe will make a

462
00:24:44,119 --> 00:24:47,200
Speaker 2: call at that point. It's just stupid of a matchup

463
00:24:47,240 --> 00:24:49,120
Speaker 2: not to put up points against Miami. Like you said,

464
00:24:49,400 --> 00:24:52,200
Speaker 2: it's a good number, good spot for the Browns. Defensively,

465
00:24:52,680 --> 00:24:55,080
Speaker 2: offense needs to show up against his bad Miami defense

466
00:24:55,359 --> 00:24:57,080
Speaker 2: and we get some weather.

467
00:24:58,000 --> 00:25:01,800
Speaker 1: Yes, that would be nice, right Slop. Listen, I agree

468
00:25:01,800 --> 00:25:05,159
Speaker 1: with you on Shador and Stefanski. If he's not playing Stefanski,

469
00:25:05,440 --> 00:25:09,440
Speaker 1: that's not the GM, that's just Afanski being stubborn and

470
00:25:09,520 --> 00:25:12,760
Speaker 1: he's not doing any better with Dylan Gabriel that you know.

471
00:25:13,000 --> 00:25:14,560
Speaker 1: Back in the corporate world, we used to call that

472
00:25:14,640 --> 00:25:17,719
Speaker 1: a pocket veto, right like the big boss would come

473
00:25:17,760 --> 00:25:19,199
Speaker 1: in over the top and say, you got to bring

474
00:25:19,280 --> 00:25:20,879
Speaker 1: this person in. I want you to try to develop

475
00:25:20,960 --> 00:25:23,280
Speaker 1: this person, and then they would never do anything with

476
00:25:23,359 --> 00:25:27,080
Speaker 1: the person, just pocket veto. And that's what that will

477
00:25:27,119 --> 00:25:29,679
Speaker 1: begin to feel like with Shador. So let's see if

478
00:25:29,760 --> 00:25:33,560
Speaker 1: that becomes a factor with Stefanski and the Browns in

479
00:25:33,640 --> 00:25:37,840
Speaker 1: the coming weeks. Let's get to it, man, New Orleans

480
00:25:38,000 --> 00:25:42,840
Speaker 1: Saints at Chicago Bears. The Bears are five point favorites. Listen,

481
00:25:42,920 --> 00:25:45,040
Speaker 1: someone like what they saw last night. This line actually

482
00:25:45,119 --> 00:25:46,520
Speaker 1: moved from four and a half to five to five

483
00:25:46,560 --> 00:25:48,719
Speaker 1: and a half at a lot of places right now

484
00:25:49,440 --> 00:25:55,719
Speaker 1: after the bears last second win over the Commanders. Let

485
00:25:55,800 --> 00:25:59,080
Speaker 1: me just set the scene for a second. I was

486
00:25:59,160 --> 00:26:03,320
Speaker 1: so frustrated with Bears last night. I actually forgot I

487
00:26:03,440 --> 00:26:05,080
Speaker 1: had bet the Bears at plus four and a half

488
00:26:05,840 --> 00:26:10,800
Speaker 1: and because Caleb Williams. I don't think. I don't think

489
00:26:10,840 --> 00:26:13,359
Speaker 1: Ben Johnson was putting Caleb Williams in spots to succeed.

490
00:26:13,840 --> 00:26:16,080
Speaker 1: He was calling plays that third and one call, that

491
00:26:16,240 --> 00:26:20,000
Speaker 1: fourth and one call, Like Caleb is not the guy

492
00:26:20,800 --> 00:26:24,160
Speaker 1: who you can give a play call where the first

493
00:26:24,240 --> 00:26:28,560
Speaker 1: read isn't going to be available immediately. He's just he

494
00:26:28,720 --> 00:26:31,200
Speaker 1: doesn't play that way. Like he gets in his head,

495
00:26:31,320 --> 00:26:35,080
Speaker 1: he runs backward, he gets caught in the in the rush.

496
00:26:36,119 --> 00:26:38,520
Speaker 1: That's just not his game. It's also not his game

497
00:26:38,640 --> 00:26:44,000
Speaker 1: to throw intermediate passes accurately on third and long. That's

498
00:26:44,080 --> 00:26:46,640
Speaker 1: not how you're going to win games with Caleb Williams.

499
00:26:46,680 --> 00:26:48,320
Speaker 1: I thought the Bears did a great job last night.

500
00:26:48,359 --> 00:26:52,000
Speaker 1: Their defense was awesome, except for three miscues by Dennis

501
00:26:52,040 --> 00:26:55,919
Speaker 1: Allen where he wasn't rushing the passer with more than

502
00:26:55,960 --> 00:26:58,920
Speaker 1: three or four when he should have been. The penalties

503
00:26:58,960 --> 00:27:03,680
Speaker 1: were ridiculous, Some tiki taki, some just sloppy and undisciplined.

504
00:27:05,359 --> 00:27:07,840
Speaker 1: I'm really glad my phone died before the end of

505
00:27:07,880 --> 00:27:10,399
Speaker 1: the first half, so I got to avoid all the

506
00:27:10,600 --> 00:27:16,120
Speaker 1: angry emotional texts from all my buddies. I didn't get

507
00:27:16,200 --> 00:27:19,800
Speaker 1: anything charged again until the end of the game. But man,

508
00:27:19,880 --> 00:27:22,440
Speaker 1: it was a roller coaster. A roller coaster is a

509
00:27:22,520 --> 00:27:24,480
Speaker 1: better a roller coaster as a fan.

510
00:27:26,359 --> 00:27:29,320
Speaker 2: Yeah, you're too tough. You should be elated how good

511
00:27:29,359 --> 00:27:32,800
Speaker 2: your team is. In fact, you're three and two. I mean,

512
00:27:33,720 --> 00:27:35,840
Speaker 2: is insane. You should not be three and two. Your

513
00:27:35,880 --> 00:27:39,200
Speaker 2: minus fifteen point differential it has to be the first

514
00:27:39,240 --> 00:27:41,240
Speaker 2: team infl hissuy to win back to back road games

515
00:27:41,320 --> 00:27:44,520
Speaker 2: twenty five to twenty four just bizarre world type of

516
00:27:44,560 --> 00:27:48,600
Speaker 2: stat that is. I don't know, You're just not a

517
00:27:48,640 --> 00:27:51,440
Speaker 2: good team, but you have a good coach, a quarterback

518
00:27:51,480 --> 00:27:53,800
Speaker 2: that can make plays, and you're getting bounces going your way.

519
00:27:53,920 --> 00:27:56,200
Speaker 2: So I'd be really excited as a Bears team, like

520
00:27:56,280 --> 00:28:00,520
Speaker 2: you're I see the path, I see the future. There's

521
00:28:00,560 --> 00:28:01,800
Speaker 2: gonna be a lot of grind pains. Like I said,

522
00:28:01,800 --> 00:28:05,080
Speaker 2: Caleb's winning a new offense, a very complex offense. This

523
00:28:05,240 --> 00:28:07,720
Speaker 2: is year one, this is a five year plan. So

524
00:28:08,920 --> 00:28:10,479
Speaker 2: you just want wins. You want to see a guy

525
00:28:10,560 --> 00:28:14,200
Speaker 2: that can win, like Justin Fields could not win. Justin

526
00:28:14,240 --> 00:28:16,200
Speaker 2: Fields is never gonna win these games, you guys have

527
00:28:16,280 --> 00:28:18,080
Speaker 2: been winning. That's why you got a guy like Caleb

528
00:28:18,119 --> 00:28:21,639
Speaker 2: Williams who doesn't have those scars, those wounds. He can

529
00:28:21,720 --> 00:28:23,840
Speaker 2: win these games and not overthinking, even if he's not

530
00:28:23,960 --> 00:28:26,639
Speaker 2: doing much Like that swift at the end there. That

531
00:28:26,880 --> 00:28:29,640
Speaker 2: was really why I love your head coach, where it's

532
00:28:29,640 --> 00:28:32,480
Speaker 2: like he knows his run blocking scheme. He saved a

533
00:28:32,520 --> 00:28:34,840
Speaker 2: couple of plays. They knew it was gonna work against Washington,

534
00:28:35,359 --> 00:28:37,880
Speaker 2: and it did, and they got those first where it's like, sure,

535
00:28:37,960 --> 00:28:40,320
Speaker 2: did you guys get lucky in the fumble? Yes, Like

536
00:28:40,400 --> 00:28:42,320
Speaker 2: if someone that had the money line on this Bears

537
00:28:42,400 --> 00:28:46,160
Speaker 2: team I saw dead one thousand, one thousand miles away

538
00:28:46,200 --> 00:28:48,120
Speaker 2: where it's like, oh, this is gonna land on five.

539
00:28:48,240 --> 00:28:50,920
Speaker 2: The professionals were right for hammering this in the four

540
00:28:50,960 --> 00:28:53,080
Speaker 2: and a half because, like we said, we didn't understand

541
00:28:53,080 --> 00:28:57,000
Speaker 2: the movement. They got unlucky, We got lucky. The bounce

542
00:28:57,040 --> 00:28:59,560
Speaker 2: has went our way. That's that's why we love Betton.

543
00:28:59,640 --> 00:29:03,160
Speaker 2: That's the best betting. These ugly dogs got away with

544
00:29:03,200 --> 00:29:06,520
Speaker 2: the one for sure that Bears game, So I get

545
00:29:06,640 --> 00:29:10,560
Speaker 2: your hesitation on them, but you know right now they're overvalued.

546
00:29:10,600 --> 00:29:12,640
Speaker 2: But like we said, They're a team that knows how

547
00:29:12,680 --> 00:29:14,880
Speaker 2: to win right now, playing against a team that doesn't

548
00:29:15,000 --> 00:29:17,040
Speaker 2: know how to win and a quarterback that doesn't know

549
00:29:17,040 --> 00:29:20,120
Speaker 2: how to wins. So five and a half obviously might

550
00:29:20,160 --> 00:29:22,600
Speaker 2: be on the Saints. Am I gonna be as big

551
00:29:22,760 --> 00:29:25,040
Speaker 2: into them as I was last week? No, this is

552
00:29:26,440 --> 00:29:28,160
Speaker 2: just playing the number against what I think is an

553
00:29:28,160 --> 00:29:32,960
Speaker 2: overvalued Bears team. But yeah, the Bears. With the way

554
00:29:33,000 --> 00:29:36,800
Speaker 2: your guys defenses, especially against the run, who you to

555
00:29:36,880 --> 00:29:39,200
Speaker 2: be catching minus five and a half against anybody, let

556
00:29:39,200 --> 00:29:40,760
Speaker 2: alone a team that can run the ball like the

557
00:29:40,800 --> 00:29:44,200
Speaker 2: Saints kN So just a bad number of feels like.

558
00:29:44,320 --> 00:29:46,200
Speaker 2: And yeah, like you said, the early movement was on

559
00:29:46,280 --> 00:29:48,720
Speaker 2: the Bears professional when he's with the Bears. So that's so.

560
00:29:48,800 --> 00:29:50,240
Speaker 2: I'm just gonna wait this one out. I'll take a

561
00:29:50,280 --> 00:29:52,760
Speaker 2: position on the Saints case it goes down for five

562
00:29:52,800 --> 00:29:55,120
Speaker 2: and a half, But no, not a real big bet

563
00:29:55,240 --> 00:29:57,280
Speaker 2: yet for me on this one. I just I can't

564
00:29:57,320 --> 00:29:58,160
Speaker 2: believe the line movement.

565
00:29:58,200 --> 00:29:59,800
Speaker 1: To be honest with you, all right, We're gonna go

566
00:30:00,120 --> 00:30:05,440
Speaker 1: from an ascending team that makes their fan base proud

567
00:30:06,160 --> 00:30:12,720
Speaker 1: except for me, to a championship caliber team that is

568
00:30:13,160 --> 00:30:17,920
Speaker 1: frustrating their fan base. To no end and maybe the

569
00:30:18,040 --> 00:30:25,400
Speaker 1: single biggest cause for Simon Hunter's depression. Philadelphia at Minnesota.

570
00:30:25,920 --> 00:30:29,720
Speaker 1: Minnesota is a two and a half point underdog.

571
00:30:30,440 --> 00:30:32,840
Speaker 2: No, it's all Phillies. I've never been happier in life. Honestly,

572
00:30:33,160 --> 00:30:36,680
Speaker 2: life has truly never been better. I wish I care

573
00:30:36,760 --> 00:30:38,320
Speaker 2: more about the Eagles, like I try to have Giants

574
00:30:38,360 --> 00:30:41,800
Speaker 2: fans texting me after that game, because literally every guy

575
00:30:41,880 --> 00:30:43,520
Speaker 2: worked on the Jersey for the TV show they were

576
00:30:43,560 --> 00:30:45,880
Speaker 2: Giants fans. They were all from Seaside Heights, Seaside Park

577
00:30:46,120 --> 00:30:49,640
Speaker 2: on North Jersey guys, and I literally couldn't stop thinking.

578
00:30:49,680 --> 00:30:52,200
Speaker 2: I said, you, guys, watch that Saquon doc. I really

579
00:30:52,280 --> 00:30:55,440
Speaker 2: can't thank you enough for giving the Saquon Barkley greatest

580
00:30:55,440 --> 00:30:58,000
Speaker 2: season potentially of my life. Guy set the whole time

581
00:30:58,040 --> 00:31:01,080
Speaker 2: record two thousand and five brushing yards or all purpose yards,

582
00:31:01,120 --> 00:31:03,040
Speaker 2: and we've got a Super Bowl. So I think I'm

583
00:31:03,040 --> 00:31:05,240
Speaker 2: still just numb to it where it's like, yeah, I

584
00:31:05,280 --> 00:31:06,720
Speaker 2: want the Eagles to be better. They're four and to

585
00:31:06,840 --> 00:31:09,560
Speaker 2: a top of the division. It's Eagles fans are just

586
00:31:09,680 --> 00:31:13,920
Speaker 2: too We're spoiled, So like, yeah, how he's made bad decisions.

587
00:31:14,200 --> 00:31:17,400
Speaker 2: We've got guys retiring right now. It's all negative on

588
00:31:17,440 --> 00:31:20,000
Speaker 2: this Eagles team. So my Simon says, bet this week

589
00:31:20,240 --> 00:31:22,800
Speaker 2: is the Minnesota Vikings plus two and a half.

590
00:31:23,120 --> 00:31:27,040
Speaker 1: It's Simon says, presented by Hard Wreck.

591
00:31:27,120 --> 00:31:31,400
Speaker 2: Bet call miss Simon, what do you want? I want

592
00:31:31,480 --> 00:31:35,280
Speaker 2: to play a game? What kind of game? Simon says,

593
00:31:36,520 --> 00:31:37,960
Speaker 2: out line that I think is gonna be moving. I

594
00:31:38,000 --> 00:31:40,120
Speaker 2: think this is gonna come down. Could easily see it

595
00:31:40,160 --> 00:31:41,800
Speaker 2: get down to one and a half. Eagles have a

596
00:31:41,880 --> 00:31:44,920
Speaker 2: ton of injuries that are unknown right now, So Jalen

597
00:31:44,960 --> 00:31:47,480
Speaker 2: Carter would be a big deal. I think he's gonna play.

598
00:31:47,920 --> 00:31:50,400
Speaker 2: I don't think Quenyon Mitchell is gonna play, which that

599
00:31:50,560 --> 00:31:54,720
Speaker 2: to me is the biggest Yeah, like Koc is a

600
00:31:54,840 --> 00:31:59,160
Speaker 2: genius attacking teams weaknesses. He was already excited about the

601
00:31:59,240 --> 00:32:01,760
Speaker 2: number two corner of the Eagles. Now you can be

602
00:32:01,800 --> 00:32:03,640
Speaker 2: a number excited about the number one and number two.

603
00:32:03,680 --> 00:32:06,200
Speaker 2: I mean, we'll see what they do about Cooper Gene.

604
00:32:06,280 --> 00:32:09,000
Speaker 2: But like as much as I love the kid him

605
00:32:09,040 --> 00:32:11,880
Speaker 2: one on one with Jefferson or Addison, that's not where

606
00:32:11,880 --> 00:32:14,680
Speaker 2: you want Cooper de Gene playing. You want him as

607
00:32:14,760 --> 00:32:17,520
Speaker 2: the second guy coming down or the guy covering the

608
00:32:17,600 --> 00:32:19,520
Speaker 2: middle of the field, not the guy on the outside

609
00:32:19,560 --> 00:32:24,760
Speaker 2: against two speedsters. So it's a bad matchup, bad number.

610
00:32:25,480 --> 00:32:28,280
Speaker 2: This is still an Eagles team that's being priced as

611
00:32:28,320 --> 00:32:31,240
Speaker 2: if they didn't have a ton of problems, and I

612
00:32:31,320 --> 00:32:33,520
Speaker 2: think the public will battle. Why would the public be

613
00:32:33,640 --> 00:32:39,320
Speaker 2: backing Carson Wentz. You know, not that he hasn't looked bad,

614
00:32:39,400 --> 00:32:41,800
Speaker 2: he hasn't looked good. But I just think people are

615
00:32:41,880 --> 00:32:44,200
Speaker 2: just not thinking. They're thinking this is a bounce backside

616
00:32:44,240 --> 00:32:47,200
Speaker 2: for this Eagles team where it feels like a Minnesota

617
00:32:47,280 --> 00:32:51,000
Speaker 2: spot offensively and defensively. The problems Eagles have up front

618
00:32:51,320 --> 00:32:54,400
Speaker 2: of the blocking, the injuries, all of it. I don't

619
00:32:54,400 --> 00:32:55,600
Speaker 2: know if this is the kind of game you get

620
00:32:55,680 --> 00:32:58,560
Speaker 2: right again, So shier Ani saying all the right stuff,

621
00:32:58,760 --> 00:33:00,880
Speaker 2: he said, they've used the extra to try to fix

622
00:33:00,960 --> 00:33:03,760
Speaker 2: this offense. You're lying to yourself. You think two to

623
00:33:03,840 --> 00:33:05,920
Speaker 2: three days of extra time because they played on a

624
00:33:05,960 --> 00:33:08,520
Speaker 2: Thursday's gonna fix this offense. I just think they need

625
00:33:08,600 --> 00:33:11,400
Speaker 2: to get guys back healthy on offensive line. So yeah,

626
00:33:12,200 --> 00:33:14,480
Speaker 2: it pains me to do. I got this line of

627
00:33:14,560 --> 00:33:17,160
Speaker 2: a pick. It's two and a half. That's a key number.

628
00:33:17,240 --> 00:33:19,760
Speaker 2: I'm gonna give that out every time so Simon says,

629
00:33:19,840 --> 00:33:21,000
Speaker 2: give me the plus two and a half on this

630
00:33:21,120 --> 00:33:21,720
Speaker 2: Vikings team.

631
00:33:22,520 --> 00:33:27,200
Speaker 1: If you had a choice right now, would you rather

632
00:33:27,360 --> 00:33:32,720
Speaker 1: have Nick Sirianni or Kevin O'Connell as your head coach.

633
00:33:34,040 --> 00:33:36,080
Speaker 2: I can't turn my back on a guy that gave

634
00:33:36,120 --> 00:33:39,280
Speaker 2: me a super bowling. I'm telling you, chaed I'm you'll

635
00:33:39,320 --> 00:33:41,760
Speaker 2: see you'll get one. Not that's in the nineteen eighties.

636
00:33:41,960 --> 00:33:44,440
Speaker 2: It's the high of highs. It's like, I wish I

637
00:33:44,600 --> 00:33:46,520
Speaker 2: was more upset about this ego season, but it's like

638
00:33:47,320 --> 00:33:49,280
Speaker 2: I'm still living in the past. I'm not gonna lie.

639
00:33:49,440 --> 00:33:51,840
Speaker 2: Like I watched that Saquon doc and then I literally

640
00:33:51,880 --> 00:33:55,480
Speaker 2: rewatched the thirty minute Super Bowl little mini version, so

641
00:33:55,560 --> 00:33:59,520
Speaker 2: it's like, it's Sirianni did it. I gotta get the

642
00:33:59,520 --> 00:34:01,600
Speaker 2: guy credit. I hated him, thought he was an idiot,

643
00:34:01,640 --> 00:34:05,440
Speaker 2: a buffoon. Whatever he does, it works. So he's not

644
00:34:05,680 --> 00:34:08,600
Speaker 2: hiring his best friends to be the OC. Not great idea,

645
00:34:08,719 --> 00:34:12,520
Speaker 2: but we'll see what happens going forward. He to me

646
00:34:12,640 --> 00:34:15,520
Speaker 2: is the right man for the job. KOC couldn't even

647
00:34:15,560 --> 00:34:18,680
Speaker 2: beat the Giants at home in the playoffs. That's what

648
00:34:18,760 --> 00:34:19,520
Speaker 2: I'll say about him.

649
00:34:20,160 --> 00:34:24,239
Speaker 1: You're so funny it's like Eagles fans. The number of

650
00:34:24,360 --> 00:34:28,600
Speaker 1: Eagles fans I know who have rewatched the Super Bowl,

651
00:34:29,360 --> 00:34:32,520
Speaker 1: have watched the Saquon doc, have done everything like have

652
00:34:32,719 --> 00:34:38,000
Speaker 1: just relived and relived and relived the glory. Look I

653
00:34:38,160 --> 00:34:40,960
Speaker 1: wanted to talk. I literally have a VHS of like

654
00:34:41,400 --> 00:34:50,640
Speaker 1: the Bears NFL films nineteen eighty five hour long, you know,

655
00:34:51,239 --> 00:34:53,240
Speaker 1: celebration of their season.

656
00:34:53,480 --> 00:34:56,480
Speaker 2: You'll always have Devin Hester super Bowl Return. And I

657
00:34:56,600 --> 00:34:58,400
Speaker 2: was there for that, and I watched that clip a

658
00:34:58,440 --> 00:35:00,400
Speaker 2: million times. I might have been a Bears fan. It was.

659
00:35:00,560 --> 00:35:02,759
Speaker 1: It was amazing, totally amazing.

660
00:35:02,520 --> 00:35:04,120
Speaker 2: Last time with the flashes. That's why I love it

661
00:35:04,200 --> 00:35:04,600
Speaker 2: so much.

662
00:35:04,760 --> 00:35:07,800
Speaker 1: That's right, that's totally Oh my god, four iPhones before

663
00:35:07,920 --> 00:35:11,120
Speaker 1: you're so right. Yeah, that's one hundred percent accurate. By

664
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Speaker 1: the way, Darren Rivell gave me that VHS tape. It

665
00:35:13,360 --> 00:35:20,800
Speaker 1: was a gift, you know. All right, Look, the basic

666
00:35:20,840 --> 00:35:23,200
Speaker 1: stats are true. Though we don't know if Jalen Carter

667
00:35:23,320 --> 00:35:24,560
Speaker 1: is going to play. We don't know if Queenya and

668
00:35:24,600 --> 00:35:27,840
Speaker 1: Mitchell is going to play. But either way, this is

669
00:35:27,880 --> 00:35:29,840
Speaker 1: a defense that is twenty first in the league EPA

670
00:35:29,920 --> 00:35:33,480
Speaker 1: per play when they are playing. So I think You're

671
00:35:33,560 --> 00:35:36,480
Speaker 1: right about how it's being prized. Value is on the vikings.

672
00:35:36,520 --> 00:35:42,720
Speaker 1: Here is there value simon on the New York Jets

673
00:35:42,840 --> 00:35:48,839
Speaker 1: is two point underdogs hosting the Carolina Panthers. Oh god,

674
00:35:50,040 --> 00:35:53,040
Speaker 1: winless teams. This is from Killer Sports. Windless teams as

675
00:35:53,080 --> 00:35:56,759
Speaker 1: home dogs week seven or later since nineteen eighty nine,

676
00:35:57,960 --> 00:35:59,680
Speaker 1: forty eight and thirty nine against the spread.

677
00:36:00,719 --> 00:36:04,359
Speaker 2: But look, I was hoping that was gonna be better.

678
00:36:05,640 --> 00:36:08,920
Speaker 1: This is a trend, the law of averages, regression to

679
00:36:09,000 --> 00:36:11,359
Speaker 1: the mean, whatever we want to call it in terms

680
00:36:11,400 --> 00:36:15,600
Speaker 1: of this can't keep happening. Is the only reason to

681
00:36:15,719 --> 00:36:18,200
Speaker 1: bet on the New York Jest this week. It's not

682
00:36:18,280 --> 00:36:22,200
Speaker 1: even like sometimes when you're making a bet in situations

683
00:36:22,280 --> 00:36:24,560
Speaker 1: like this, a gross bad bet, it's like you have

684
00:36:24,640 --> 00:36:29,040
Speaker 1: to believe in the unseen. This is I think we

685
00:36:29,200 --> 00:36:32,360
Speaker 1: have to disbelieve what we have seen because what we

686
00:36:32,440 --> 00:36:37,080
Speaker 1: have seen is so bad. The coaching miscues, the playing miscues,

687
00:36:37,200 --> 00:36:44,200
Speaker 1: the strategic miscues, the utter incompetence. This isn't a team

688
00:36:44,239 --> 00:36:46,200
Speaker 1: that's sort of been unlucky. This is a team that

689
00:36:46,360 --> 00:36:52,600
Speaker 1: is truly horrendous and lacks any kind of skilled play

690
00:36:53,120 --> 00:36:56,719
Speaker 1: at just about every position. So we know we're getting

691
00:36:56,719 --> 00:36:58,640
Speaker 1: the Panthers at a high. We know we're getting the

692
00:36:58,719 --> 00:37:01,479
Speaker 1: Jets on a low. We've loved the Panthers the past

693
00:37:01,520 --> 00:37:05,000
Speaker 1: couple of weeks. How are we betting on the New

694
00:37:05,080 --> 00:37:08,440
Speaker 1: York Jets? How are we doing it? How are we

695
00:37:08,560 --> 00:37:09,480
Speaker 1: asking people to do it?

696
00:37:10,040 --> 00:37:14,480
Speaker 2: This is sharper square. Obviously the square side is easily

697
00:37:14,560 --> 00:37:16,080
Speaker 2: the Panthers the sharp deads of.

698
00:37:16,080 --> 00:37:16,680
Speaker 1: Course it is.

699
00:37:17,800 --> 00:37:19,520
Speaker 2: It is a game where if you've been betting with

700
00:37:19,680 --> 00:37:21,839
Speaker 2: us on these ugly dogs, you do have to hold

701
00:37:21,880 --> 00:37:23,920
Speaker 2: your nose unfortunately and take the Jets. But you can

702
00:37:23,960 --> 00:37:26,680
Speaker 2: be patient. Like we said, the number is moving. I

703
00:37:26,760 --> 00:37:30,680
Speaker 2: believe Garrett Wilson might get put on IR or something

704
00:37:30,800 --> 00:37:32,200
Speaker 2: he might miss, Like a couple of weeks, they're saying

705
00:37:32,480 --> 00:37:35,000
Speaker 2: he might have a real injury. So you know, he's

706
00:37:35,080 --> 00:37:37,919
Speaker 2: their best weapon. That should keep moving up. We should

707
00:37:38,000 --> 00:37:42,879
Speaker 2: keep getting a better number. But confidence wise, it's it's

708
00:37:42,960 --> 00:37:46,480
Speaker 2: not there for me. But like Chad said, trying to

709
00:37:46,560 --> 00:37:49,000
Speaker 2: be smart, trying to play the numbers. And I've talked

710
00:37:49,040 --> 00:37:51,960
Speaker 2: about this whole Rice Young home thing, and I got

711
00:37:52,080 --> 00:37:53,799
Speaker 2: to stick to it because I have staked my name

712
00:37:53,840 --> 00:37:56,160
Speaker 2: to it. Now that he is a different they are

713
00:37:56,200 --> 00:37:59,759
Speaker 2: a different team, a different offense on the road. How

714
00:37:59,800 --> 00:38:02,000
Speaker 2: do the Jets not get one here? But my god,

715
00:38:02,080 --> 00:38:04,200
Speaker 2: do I hate this team? Like I'm trying to lie

716
00:38:04,239 --> 00:38:05,560
Speaker 2: to myself to be like, well, maybe I'll have the

717
00:38:05,560 --> 00:38:07,400
Speaker 2: confidence by Sunday to get this one in the contest.

718
00:38:07,440 --> 00:38:09,600
Speaker 2: I just don't know if I'll get there, because I

719
00:38:09,719 --> 00:38:12,320
Speaker 2: just they got They got one last week that should

720
00:38:12,320 --> 00:38:15,080
Speaker 2: have been their win. They're so poorly coach they couldn't

721
00:38:15,080 --> 00:38:18,000
Speaker 2: even steal that one. So there's no doubt this game could.

722
00:38:18,320 --> 00:38:20,200
Speaker 2: Things won't bounce their way like they did last week. Right,

723
00:38:20,360 --> 00:38:22,080
Speaker 2: Everything was going their way last week and they still

724
00:38:22,080 --> 00:38:25,440
Speaker 2: couldn't win that game out right, So get us up

725
00:38:25,480 --> 00:38:27,239
Speaker 2: to two and a half, I'll have more confidence. Get

726
00:38:27,280 --> 00:38:29,960
Speaker 2: me up to three, I'll really be flying. But at

727
00:38:30,000 --> 00:38:32,719
Speaker 2: plus two we are right now hard rock. I'll throw

728
00:38:32,719 --> 00:38:34,239
Speaker 2: a little taste on it, but I'm not gonna be

729
00:38:34,320 --> 00:38:37,200
Speaker 2: too aggressive with it. Just no one's betting the Jets.

730
00:38:37,239 --> 00:38:39,520
Speaker 2: It's it's only it's only us like this, That's what

731
00:38:39,560 --> 00:38:41,400
Speaker 2: I'm saying. This is gonna be the sharp side. The

732
00:38:41,440 --> 00:38:44,399
Speaker 2: square side, no doubt, would be this Panthers team, which

733
00:38:45,239 --> 00:38:48,759
Speaker 2: you know, as as great as that win was last week,

734
00:38:50,080 --> 00:38:55,760
Speaker 2: it's again, it's not that this Panthers team feels incredibly

735
00:38:55,800 --> 00:38:58,520
Speaker 2: fluciate three and three, but you see what you need

736
00:38:58,600 --> 00:39:01,120
Speaker 2: that team offensively to be to hold up against with

737
00:39:01,239 --> 00:39:03,880
Speaker 2: their defense. So we'll see Becau again. Justin Field is

738
00:39:03,920 --> 00:39:07,080
Speaker 2: not the best passer either, but it's like, come on, Fields,

739
00:39:07,200 --> 00:39:09,759
Speaker 2: this is a good matchup for you at home. You

740
00:39:09,880 --> 00:39:11,600
Speaker 2: got to show up here, especially if you laid such

741
00:39:11,600 --> 00:39:14,320
Speaker 2: a huge egg last week. So yeah, it's it's a

742
00:39:14,360 --> 00:39:15,680
Speaker 2: gross one. And the more I talk about, the more

743
00:39:15,719 --> 00:39:17,920
Speaker 2: sick I get thinking about taking this Jet side. But

744
00:39:18,560 --> 00:39:19,200
Speaker 2: you gotta do it.

745
00:39:19,680 --> 00:39:22,759
Speaker 3: You having an unnatural allegiance to losers and it's not

746
00:39:23,040 --> 00:39:23,239
Speaker 3: like you.

747
00:39:23,880 --> 00:39:26,760
Speaker 1: Everyone on the Jets looks disoriented.

748
00:39:27,080 --> 00:39:27,719
Speaker 2: Oh my god.

749
00:39:27,840 --> 00:39:31,879
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's how we're going to be on Sunday if

750
00:39:31,920 --> 00:39:32,600
Speaker 1: we bet this game.

751
00:39:32,760 --> 00:39:34,879
Speaker 2: They're making Aaron Rodgers look good, like there's a clip

752
00:39:34,920 --> 00:39:38,320
Speaker 2: flying around now Rogers on the Pat McCabe show, like

753
00:39:38,400 --> 00:39:41,080
Speaker 2: after the fact and being like, why'd you guys even

754
00:39:41,120 --> 00:39:42,480
Speaker 2: fly me out here if you're just gonna tell me

755
00:39:42,480 --> 00:39:45,120
Speaker 2: you're going a different direction in like a minute conversation.

756
00:39:45,440 --> 00:39:48,120
Speaker 2: Just how weird His all interaction was with Aaron Glenn,

757
00:39:48,320 --> 00:39:50,719
Speaker 2: Like the guy was kind of a cocky asshole to

758
00:39:50,960 --> 00:39:53,279
Speaker 2: a guy like Rogers. Just very bizarre, the whole thing.

759
00:39:53,440 --> 00:39:57,759
Speaker 2: So just from just a train wreck and we're betting it,

760
00:39:57,920 --> 00:39:59,880
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799
00:42:25,040 --> 00:42:28,480
Speaker 1: the dead cat bounce in effect, which, for those who

800
00:42:28,560 --> 00:42:32,879
Speaker 1: don't know, it's getting that team that's pretty much dead

801
00:42:33,480 --> 00:42:36,799
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802
00:42:36,880 --> 00:42:40,640
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803
00:42:41,360 --> 00:42:46,200
Speaker 1: Is the dead cat bounce effect stronger than the revenge

804
00:42:46,280 --> 00:42:49,840
Speaker 1: spot effect? Simon?

805
00:42:51,320 --> 00:42:53,799
Speaker 2: I hate it? Yeah, because you're right. I was legit

806
00:42:54,160 --> 00:42:56,920
Speaker 2: excited to be on the Patriots the second week, and

807
00:42:57,000 --> 00:42:58,239
Speaker 2: I was at the point where I was like, even

808
00:42:58,239 --> 00:42:59,759
Speaker 2: if it was minus seven and a half, I'd still

809
00:43:00,520 --> 00:43:02,400
Speaker 2: try to dig in and take this game. Because this

810
00:43:02,640 --> 00:43:05,160
Speaker 2: is the type of game where Rabel will never let

811
00:43:05,200 --> 00:43:07,160
Speaker 2: off the gas. If he finds any type of advantage,

812
00:43:07,520 --> 00:43:09,440
Speaker 2: if his drake may is cruising, or they find a

813
00:43:09,520 --> 00:43:12,279
Speaker 2: running game which they haven't had all year, he will

814
00:43:12,640 --> 00:43:16,719
Speaker 2: punish this Tennessee team and that ownership. Now Chad has

815
00:43:16,760 --> 00:43:21,080
Speaker 2: nailed it like Tennessee, you expect the spot for them

816
00:43:21,120 --> 00:43:24,120
Speaker 2: to bounce back here so I don't know what to do.

817
00:43:24,680 --> 00:43:28,080
Speaker 2: I know it's the the obviously, the sharp side's gonna

818
00:43:28,080 --> 00:43:29,240
Speaker 2: be Tennessee one hundred.

819
00:43:29,560 --> 00:43:31,879
Speaker 1: It's a Tennessee to me, it's a Tennessee player. Nothing.

820
00:43:31,920 --> 00:43:33,600
Speaker 1: I'm gonna give you one. I'm gonna give you a

821
00:43:33,680 --> 00:43:38,240
Speaker 1: stat here, Okay, other than the dead cat bounce. Teams

822
00:43:38,280 --> 00:43:41,600
Speaker 1: playing their third straight road game coming off a win

823
00:43:41,719 --> 00:43:45,400
Speaker 1: and a cover, like the New England Patriots. Yeah, thirty

824
00:43:45,480 --> 00:43:48,560
Speaker 1: four against the spread since nineteen eighty nine, and they

825
00:43:48,640 --> 00:43:50,840
Speaker 1: got a big number to cover. Seven is just a

826
00:43:50,840 --> 00:43:51,319
Speaker 1: big number.

827
00:43:51,920 --> 00:43:56,120
Speaker 2: And it's two straight highly emotional, last minute wins. Like

828
00:43:56,320 --> 00:43:58,320
Speaker 2: it wasn't like they rolled and it was easy in

829
00:43:58,400 --> 00:44:02,760
Speaker 2: both games. It was very intense, high pressure, high leverage situations.

830
00:44:04,000 --> 00:44:05,160
Speaker 2: That's a great stat.

831
00:44:05,719 --> 00:44:05,839
Speaker 3: Uh.

832
00:44:06,280 --> 00:44:09,440
Speaker 2: The four letter word Company is the only book right

833
00:44:09,480 --> 00:44:12,040
Speaker 2: now with a seven and a half. You gotta grab

834
00:44:12,120 --> 00:44:14,680
Speaker 2: that if you can, right, you gotta grab Tennessee plus

835
00:44:14,680 --> 00:44:19,200
Speaker 2: seven a half you can. But man, just just like

836
00:44:19,280 --> 00:44:21,040
Speaker 2: the Jets, Chad's nail on it, where it's like this

837
00:44:21,200 --> 00:44:23,880
Speaker 2: is sickening, but we gotta do it. I mean, I

838
00:44:23,920 --> 00:44:25,560
Speaker 2: don't want to say what my model number is because

839
00:44:25,560 --> 00:44:27,440
Speaker 2: people are gonna talk shit to me because it's this

840
00:44:27,640 --> 00:44:30,400
Speaker 2: number is so off compared to it where it's like

841
00:44:30,480 --> 00:44:34,520
Speaker 2: I I have way way too much overratedness respect fort

842
00:44:34,600 --> 00:44:36,120
Speaker 2: I see team. I was just gonna fade it anyway.

843
00:44:36,440 --> 00:44:38,640
Speaker 2: It's like my dumb ass competer is a no. This

844
00:44:38,719 --> 00:44:41,759
Speaker 2: guy Callahan can't coach himself out of a box. This

845
00:44:41,880 --> 00:44:45,000
Speaker 2: man is an idiot. But like you said, they they

846
00:44:45,080 --> 00:44:48,600
Speaker 2: maybe they got rid of it. It's the bounce back spot.

847
00:44:48,600 --> 00:44:51,040
Speaker 2: I'm gonna I'm gonna agree with Chad here. But this

848
00:44:51,239 --> 00:44:53,640
Speaker 2: is another sickening spot this week. A lot of a

849
00:44:53,719 --> 00:44:55,799
Speaker 2: lot of really sickening best I've heard of. Last week

850
00:44:55,840 --> 00:44:58,239
Speaker 2: we were all chalk, which was fun. This week it's

851
00:44:58,320 --> 00:45:00,680
Speaker 2: all ugly, ugly, ugly home dogs.

852
00:45:00,840 --> 00:45:04,239
Speaker 1: It's so it's really it's it's almost like we're going

853
00:45:04,320 --> 00:45:06,840
Speaker 1: back to twenty nineteen.

854
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Speaker 2: I mean, I wouldn't mind a bad week. Chet. I

855
00:45:09,840 --> 00:45:11,439
Speaker 2: want to cut my hair. I can't cut it because

856
00:45:11,440 --> 00:45:15,560
Speaker 2: you keep winning. Yeah, So it's like I wouldn't be

857
00:45:15,600 --> 00:45:17,839
Speaker 2: the worst thing to go two and three, but I've

858
00:45:17,880 --> 00:45:19,520
Speaker 2: said I want to win. You know.

859
00:45:19,600 --> 00:45:22,240
Speaker 1: It's funny. Last night my phone died in the middle

860
00:45:22,239 --> 00:45:25,800
Speaker 1: of that Bears game, and I finally had enough juice.

861
00:45:26,160 --> 00:45:27,319
Speaker 1: You know, I didn't feel like I want to get

862
00:45:27,360 --> 00:45:29,640
Speaker 1: my computer or anything. I finally had enough juice to

863
00:45:29,680 --> 00:45:34,239
Speaker 1: start texting again at the end, but I like, there were,

864
00:45:34,280 --> 00:45:37,120
Speaker 1: you know, one hundred text messages with my friends about

865
00:45:37,120 --> 00:45:40,719
Speaker 1: the Bears, and I didn't want to start jumping back

866
00:45:40,800 --> 00:45:43,719
Speaker 1: in because I didn't want to jinx it because they

867
00:45:43,800 --> 00:45:46,279
Speaker 1: were driving right when I was able. When I got

868
00:45:46,320 --> 00:45:49,640
Speaker 1: some juice back, I'm like, I'm not jumping in until

869
00:45:49,640 --> 00:45:52,000
Speaker 1: this is over. It's killing me. I want to engage,

870
00:45:52,400 --> 00:45:55,120
Speaker 1: I want to talk, I want to be excited. I'm

871
00:45:55,200 --> 00:45:57,080
Speaker 1: just going to ignore it because I don't want to

872
00:45:57,120 --> 00:45:58,839
Speaker 1: be the one that fucked this up because it could

873
00:45:58,840 --> 00:46:01,000
Speaker 1: have been so I agree. I don't think you can

874
00:46:01,040 --> 00:46:02,960
Speaker 1: ever get your hair cut again, because I think we

875
00:46:03,080 --> 00:46:06,760
Speaker 1: just got to keep winning. If we keep winning Indianapolis

876
00:46:06,880 --> 00:46:09,920
Speaker 1: at the Los Angeles Chargers, the Chargers are one and

877
00:46:09,960 --> 00:46:12,000
Speaker 1: a half point favorites. You like the Chargers on Sunday

878
00:46:12,040 --> 00:46:16,040
Speaker 1: when it was one. It's moved in that direction. Like,

879
00:46:16,560 --> 00:46:18,719
Speaker 1: I don't have a strong opinion on this game. I

880
00:46:18,800 --> 00:46:22,800
Speaker 1: think you know the If anything, it's just the culture

881
00:46:23,480 --> 00:46:25,920
Speaker 1: overrated right now. So that's why you're getting value on

882
00:46:26,000 --> 00:46:28,600
Speaker 1: the Chargers. We're not seeing anything in the Chargers that

883
00:46:28,680 --> 00:46:33,040
Speaker 1: we like. Their offensive line is just terrible, their defense

884
00:46:33,120 --> 00:46:37,000
Speaker 1: is struggling. Everything about them looks like they are a

885
00:46:37,160 --> 00:46:40,920
Speaker 1: mediocre team, and the Colts look great. So it's another one.

886
00:46:41,040 --> 00:46:43,920
Speaker 1: We're just playing a number here. I don't have a

887
00:46:44,040 --> 00:46:45,759
Speaker 1: ton to say on this game, to be honest, Like

888
00:46:45,840 --> 00:46:47,080
Speaker 1: it's not a game I'm targeting.

889
00:46:47,760 --> 00:46:49,480
Speaker 2: Oh my god, you'll come around on it. This is

890
00:46:50,040 --> 00:46:53,719
Speaker 2: this is almost Simon says, seriously most Simon says, yeah,

891
00:46:54,680 --> 00:46:58,440
Speaker 2: like early early in the week, but this is gonna

892
00:46:58,440 --> 00:47:02,040
Speaker 2: be the bigger, sharpest game where the public is going

893
00:47:02,120 --> 00:47:05,880
Speaker 2: to be all over this Colts team for good reason.

894
00:47:06,000 --> 00:47:09,160
Speaker 2: We've talked we love the Colts too, they're five and one.

895
00:47:10,480 --> 00:47:14,239
Speaker 2: But let's really dive into it, like this is a

896
00:47:15,040 --> 00:47:18,960
Speaker 2: team that is playing at a really high level. But defensively,

897
00:47:19,600 --> 00:47:21,560
Speaker 2: I think there is a good matchup here for this

898
00:47:21,680 --> 00:47:23,880
Speaker 2: Chargers team, and that's going against his Colts secondary that

899
00:47:24,000 --> 00:47:28,439
Speaker 2: can be passed on and you know, hopefully Johnson's back

900
00:47:28,520 --> 00:47:31,440
Speaker 2: for that offense because him, Lad and Keenan Allen, that's

901
00:47:31,480 --> 00:47:34,200
Speaker 2: a potent three. That's a really really solid three. And

902
00:47:35,400 --> 00:47:38,439
Speaker 2: you know by Dell and no name a guy they cut.

903
00:47:38,800 --> 00:47:40,440
Speaker 2: You know, the Chargers brought back to be the running

904
00:47:40,440 --> 00:47:43,960
Speaker 2: back against Miami. Looked good, It looked fresh, run, good

905
00:47:44,040 --> 00:47:47,640
Speaker 2: legs running the ball. Obviously, Colts run defense is better

906
00:47:47,800 --> 00:47:50,759
Speaker 2: than Miami's run defense, but at least there is some

907
00:47:51,040 --> 00:47:52,480
Speaker 2: someone to turn to an hand the ball two that

908
00:47:52,520 --> 00:47:54,640
Speaker 2: can push the ball where much try I should on Hampton,

909
00:47:54,719 --> 00:47:56,440
Speaker 2: but there was weeks there where would just run in

910
00:47:56,480 --> 00:47:57,920
Speaker 2: the back of his guys in the line. He just

911
00:47:58,000 --> 00:47:59,719
Speaker 2: looked like a rookie trying to find his feet out

912
00:47:59,719 --> 00:48:02,799
Speaker 2: there where I doesn't feel the same. But it really

913
00:48:02,920 --> 00:48:05,919
Speaker 2: is just about this Colts defense that I just don't

914
00:48:05,960 --> 00:48:08,200
Speaker 2: trust them. I think this is going to match for

915
00:48:08,239 --> 00:48:12,560
Speaker 2: this Chargers team. And you're asking a lot of Daniel Jones.

916
00:48:12,560 --> 00:48:16,080
Speaker 2: You're asking him to keep being an above average quarterback.

917
00:48:16,280 --> 00:48:19,680
Speaker 2: And we're into week seven here, so through all these weeks,

918
00:48:19,880 --> 00:48:21,640
Speaker 2: like I said, he didn't play that great. Last week,

919
00:48:22,200 --> 00:48:24,440
Speaker 2: someone posted some crazy film he was like nine for

920
00:48:24,600 --> 00:48:28,680
Speaker 2: nine against the pressure. But just out of this world,

921
00:48:29,160 --> 00:48:32,880
Speaker 2: really really well, playing really high level right now, Daniel Jones.

922
00:48:32,960 --> 00:48:35,359
Speaker 2: So that's why I'm not making it. Simon says, I'm

923
00:48:35,360 --> 00:48:37,279
Speaker 2: not banging the table here yet. But I can just

924
00:48:37,320 --> 00:48:40,600
Speaker 2: tell you from talking to pros earlier this week, this

925
00:48:40,760 --> 00:48:43,280
Speaker 2: is going to be a pro side, this Charger side.

926
00:48:43,840 --> 00:48:46,640
Speaker 2: Colts are due for a letdown. Like they're five and one,

927
00:48:47,040 --> 00:48:49,040
Speaker 2: could easily be six and zero. We've talked about that

928
00:48:49,480 --> 00:48:52,759
Speaker 2: that Rams game, how fluky the game that was. This

929
00:48:52,960 --> 00:48:56,279
Speaker 2: is just the way the way the NFL is right, Like,

930
00:48:56,400 --> 00:48:59,839
Speaker 2: you're not going fifteen to one. I got a good year.

931
00:49:00,080 --> 00:49:02,239
Speaker 2: This cold team would be eleven and five, like they're

932
00:49:02,239 --> 00:49:04,800
Speaker 2: gonna drop some here. So this just feels like a

933
00:49:04,880 --> 00:49:08,239
Speaker 2: spot with the Chargers that especially someone that lost a

934
00:49:08,320 --> 00:49:11,160
Speaker 2: ton of money betting them last week. I don't with you.

935
00:49:11,280 --> 00:49:12,759
Speaker 2: I don't really want to be on the Chargers either.

936
00:49:12,800 --> 00:49:15,759
Speaker 2: I like their defense, their offense. Like you said, there's

937
00:49:15,760 --> 00:49:19,080
Speaker 2: still a bunch of questions, but my model has it

938
00:49:19,160 --> 00:49:23,920
Speaker 2: in minus three. It's still minus one, minus one and

939
00:49:23,920 --> 00:49:26,080
Speaker 2: a half in most books. I'm gonna grab that because

940
00:49:26,080 --> 00:49:27,640
Speaker 2: I know the pros will bet it up to two.

941
00:49:29,239 --> 00:49:32,200
Speaker 2: I will be shocked by time people hearing this if

942
00:49:32,239 --> 00:49:33,920
Speaker 2: a couple of books don't pop the two. Because I

943
00:49:34,040 --> 00:49:36,440
Speaker 2: know some really respected money they're gonna come in on

944
00:49:36,480 --> 00:49:39,719
Speaker 2: the Chargers today. So it's an interesting line and Uh.

945
00:49:40,760 --> 00:49:42,400
Speaker 2: I'm excited to see what the public does with it,

946
00:49:42,440 --> 00:49:45,560
Speaker 2: because if it's like that Chiefs game where it was

947
00:49:45,640 --> 00:49:47,759
Speaker 2: like eighty percent of the money was on a road

948
00:49:47,840 --> 00:49:50,600
Speaker 2: dog again, I'll probably have to take a large position

949
00:49:50,640 --> 00:49:52,440
Speaker 2: in the Chargers. I hate myself while doing it, but

950
00:49:52,560 --> 00:49:55,400
Speaker 2: it's like I can't avoid those spots. In those situations,

951
00:49:55,480 --> 00:49:58,160
Speaker 2: the public forces my hand and they don't know what

952
00:49:58,200 --> 00:49:59,959
Speaker 2: they're doing, and they're giving me a good number.

953
00:50:00,000 --> 00:50:04,239
Speaker 1: I have been into the Chargers have really hurt our feelings.

954
00:50:04,920 --> 00:50:08,160
Speaker 1: Two in the past three weeks. You know, we've been

955
00:50:08,239 --> 00:50:12,960
Speaker 1: on a tear honestly, and when we've lost, it's been

956
00:50:13,360 --> 00:50:15,640
Speaker 1: whether we were in the contest or not, it's been

957
00:50:15,760 --> 00:50:20,319
Speaker 1: because of the Chargers. I think that which is excruciating

958
00:50:20,360 --> 00:50:22,200
Speaker 1: to think about, to think that we're going back to

959
00:50:22,239 --> 00:50:29,200
Speaker 1: the well on Justin Herbert, I guess, I guess.

960
00:50:29,120 --> 00:50:32,800
Speaker 2: Okay, Like I know it's gross.

961
00:50:33,800 --> 00:50:38,439
Speaker 1: Okay, Can I interest you? You said we're not doing

962
00:50:38,840 --> 00:50:46,040
Speaker 1: anything sort of favorites Chargers a little bit. I'd like

963
00:50:46,120 --> 00:50:49,719
Speaker 1: to interest you in the Denver Broncos, who have the

964
00:50:49,880 --> 00:50:53,000
Speaker 1: visiting New York Giants, and the Broncos are seven point

965
00:50:53,600 --> 00:50:57,879
Speaker 1: home favorites and believe it or not, I think they're

966
00:50:57,960 --> 00:51:05,600
Speaker 1: undervalued like the Broncos here. I like playing favorites that

967
00:51:05,719 --> 00:51:08,400
Speaker 1: are defined as good teams, which the Broncos are. They

968
00:51:08,440 --> 00:51:12,399
Speaker 1: got a winning record through six weeks. They barely won

969
00:51:12,840 --> 00:51:16,160
Speaker 1: last week. They're going against a team that just won big.

970
00:51:16,320 --> 00:51:22,479
Speaker 1: That is a historically winning proposition. And I think any

971
00:51:22,760 --> 00:51:25,839
Speaker 1: sort of advantages we think the Giants have, whether it's

972
00:51:26,480 --> 00:51:33,360
Speaker 1: Jackson Dart and his mobility or camp Scataboo and his

973
00:51:33,640 --> 00:51:38,000
Speaker 1: dynamic nature, I think a lot of the excitement that

974
00:51:38,080 --> 00:51:42,920
Speaker 1: the Giants have shown that people have been enthusiastic about.

975
00:51:43,600 --> 00:51:46,520
Speaker 1: They've won two games at home, they got crushed on

976
00:51:46,600 --> 00:51:50,240
Speaker 1: the road. They won against a depleted team in the Chargers.

977
00:51:50,600 --> 00:51:55,000
Speaker 1: They won against a struggling defense in the Eagles. They

978
00:51:55,040 --> 00:51:57,880
Speaker 1: are not going against a struggling defense in the Broncos.

979
00:51:57,960 --> 00:52:01,360
Speaker 1: They are going against a legit. We are fully healthy,

980
00:52:01,960 --> 00:52:05,800
Speaker 1: we are awesome. We can do whatever we want, especially

981
00:52:05,840 --> 00:52:09,560
Speaker 1: against a rookie defense. Nick Benito. Nick Benito could be

982
00:52:09,600 --> 00:52:12,200
Speaker 1: defensive player of the year. Pascertained was Defensive Player of

983
00:52:12,239 --> 00:52:17,480
Speaker 1: the Year. I like, I wanted to find a way

984
00:52:17,560 --> 00:52:20,120
Speaker 1: to not back a seven point home favorite with Boone

985
00:52:20,200 --> 00:52:23,600
Speaker 1: Nicks as the quarterback couldn't do it. It's the Broncos.

986
00:52:25,200 --> 00:52:27,800
Speaker 2: Yeah, I took Sunday night. It's like a piece of

987
00:52:27,800 --> 00:52:29,239
Speaker 2: the Giants because they're a plus seven and a half

988
00:52:29,239 --> 00:52:30,640
Speaker 2: and I just I thought that was a good number.

989
00:52:31,600 --> 00:52:33,719
Speaker 2: You might get a six and a half chat there's

990
00:52:33,719 --> 00:52:35,719
Speaker 2: a couple out there, so yeah, yeah, I know this

991
00:52:35,800 --> 00:52:40,440
Speaker 2: could get down to a spot you like it. My

992
00:52:40,600 --> 00:52:43,080
Speaker 2: fear of it is that's just which has been my

993
00:52:43,160 --> 00:52:46,160
Speaker 2: issue with Denver all year is bone knicks. Like the

994
00:52:46,280 --> 00:52:52,600
Speaker 2: numbers aren't good. He's inconsistent his feet. Everything he's done,

995
00:52:52,680 --> 00:52:57,000
Speaker 2: like his footwork has regressed from last year. There's just

996
00:52:57,120 --> 00:52:59,840
Speaker 2: that's the big negative part. Where you're right like this

997
00:53:00,120 --> 00:53:03,040
Speaker 2: Denver defense every week and win them and keep them

998
00:53:03,080 --> 00:53:07,120
Speaker 2: in games. They're just dominant. You know, nine sacks last week.

999
00:53:08,320 --> 00:53:09,719
Speaker 2: A lot of those are on just the fields. But

1000
00:53:09,760 --> 00:53:11,640
Speaker 2: it's also that's how good they are, where it's like

1001
00:53:12,360 --> 00:53:14,959
Speaker 2: they're just we talked about it sor you know, having

1002
00:53:15,000 --> 00:53:18,200
Speaker 2: a shutdown corner you can bring five because you have

1003
00:53:18,280 --> 00:53:20,360
Speaker 2: a guy who you'll need a double. Ever, you always

1004
00:53:20,400 --> 00:53:23,360
Speaker 2: can just have the one on one shutdown so I

1005
00:53:23,480 --> 00:53:26,080
Speaker 2: can't hit your play. I won't disagree with it. Yet

1006
00:53:26,080 --> 00:53:30,280
Speaker 2: because it's I really my only stance on the Giants

1007
00:53:30,360 --> 00:53:31,719
Speaker 2: was because of the number at seven and a half.

1008
00:53:32,400 --> 00:53:35,359
Speaker 2: At six and a half, even at seven, I could

1009
00:53:35,400 --> 00:53:37,160
Speaker 2: be talked in this Denver team it is. It is

1010
00:53:37,200 --> 00:53:41,239
Speaker 2: a nice spot against this young team that you would

1011
00:53:41,280 --> 00:53:43,840
Speaker 2: normally think extended time like they had since Thursday is

1012
00:53:43,880 --> 00:53:47,200
Speaker 2: good for a team, for someone like them that's super

1013
00:53:47,239 --> 00:53:50,040
Speaker 2: immature and doesn't know how to handle winning, probably not

1014
00:53:50,200 --> 00:53:53,200
Speaker 2: the best. I can't I can't imagine how they handle

1015
00:53:53,280 --> 00:53:55,839
Speaker 2: those extra days and how they've handled practice this week

1016
00:53:56,320 --> 00:53:59,440
Speaker 2: compared to a Denver team that has to feel like

1017
00:53:59,520 --> 00:54:01,600
Speaker 2: they lost. I think Sean Payton treated that way in

1018
00:54:01,640 --> 00:54:04,440
Speaker 2: the locker room. It wasn't smokes cigars riding around London

1019
00:54:04,520 --> 00:54:07,040
Speaker 2: on their bus. It was kind of a lot of yelling,

1020
00:54:07,960 --> 00:54:10,560
Speaker 2: we got lucky, we need to steal that one. Let's

1021
00:54:10,600 --> 00:54:11,600
Speaker 2: get the hell out of here and get back to

1022
00:54:11,680 --> 00:54:13,960
Speaker 2: Denver type of game. So I'm with you, it's you

1023
00:54:14,000 --> 00:54:16,359
Speaker 2: don't expect them right of a letdown after international game

1024
00:54:16,440 --> 00:54:18,920
Speaker 2: like we saw with Cleveland last week. They're just not

1025
00:54:19,040 --> 00:54:21,560
Speaker 2: the same team. So I can get there for gaut

1026
00:54:21,560 --> 00:54:23,440
Speaker 2: six and a half at seven, I'm indifferent. As we

1027
00:54:23,480 --> 00:54:24,120
Speaker 2: say here right now.

1028
00:54:24,520 --> 00:54:26,919
Speaker 1: Yeah, I actually in my notes, I'm like, I'm waiting

1029
00:54:27,000 --> 00:54:30,520
Speaker 1: until six and a half. I would take the seven

1030
00:54:30,640 --> 00:54:32,319
Speaker 1: if I feel like it's not going to get there,

1031
00:54:32,360 --> 00:54:33,840
Speaker 1: if I see the Jews start to move in a

1032
00:54:33,920 --> 00:54:36,560
Speaker 1: direction that shows it might go up to seven and

1033
00:54:36,640 --> 00:54:41,200
Speaker 1: a half again. But I really like the Broncos here,

1034
00:54:41,360 --> 00:54:43,640
Speaker 1: I just do better. I think it's a coaching mismatch.

1035
00:54:44,040 --> 00:54:47,080
Speaker 1: I think it's a situational mitchmatch. I think it's a

1036
00:54:47,360 --> 00:54:53,600
Speaker 1: scheme mismatch. Bo Nicks has generally played better against bad teams.

1037
00:54:53,719 --> 00:54:56,920
Speaker 1: This is a bad team last week, set aside, right

1038
00:54:58,000 --> 00:55:00,759
Speaker 1: team's coming off, teams coming off, and set win is

1039
00:55:00,760 --> 00:55:04,320
Speaker 1: a home dog of more than four points. That is

1040
00:55:04,440 --> 00:55:08,680
Speaker 1: the New York Football Giants forty three percent against the

1041
00:55:08,719 --> 00:55:13,320
Speaker 1: spread since nineteen eighty nine, Killer Sports, How does that

1042
00:55:13,400 --> 00:55:14,040
Speaker 1: make you feel better?

1043
00:55:15,480 --> 00:55:17,799
Speaker 2: No? But it sounds right. Sounds right.

1044
00:55:18,400 --> 00:55:23,960
Speaker 1: Green Bay the perpetually disappointing Green Bay Packers against the

1045
00:55:24,120 --> 00:55:29,160
Speaker 1: perpetually disappointing Arizona Cardinals, who either lose when we need

1046
00:55:29,239 --> 00:55:31,320
Speaker 1: them to cover, they cover when we need them to

1047
00:55:31,480 --> 00:55:35,239
Speaker 1: not cover. I don't know if Kyler Murray is going

1048
00:55:35,280 --> 00:55:36,880
Speaker 1: to play. I don't know if Marvin Harrison is going

1049
00:55:36,960 --> 00:55:38,879
Speaker 1: to play. I don't know if the backup running back

1050
00:55:38,920 --> 00:55:41,000
Speaker 1: who became their starting running back who dropped the ball

1051
00:55:41,000 --> 00:55:42,759
Speaker 1: at the end zone against the Titans is going to

1052
00:55:42,800 --> 00:55:45,640
Speaker 1: be playing hard game to handicap because we just don't

1053
00:55:45,680 --> 00:55:46,719
Speaker 1: know who the players are going to be.

1054
00:55:48,680 --> 00:55:51,239
Speaker 2: Yeah, I guess, I guess I'll avoid it. Honestly, I

1055
00:55:51,280 --> 00:55:54,200
Speaker 2: wanted to be on Green Bay. This is a good

1056
00:55:54,280 --> 00:55:57,600
Speaker 2: number for Green Bay, but I'm with you, there's too

1057
00:55:57,719 --> 00:56:02,799
Speaker 2: much unknown for me to bet into this at this point. Uh. Surprisingly,

1058
00:56:02,880 --> 00:56:04,840
Speaker 2: I would feel better, honestly if it was Kyler Murray.

1059
00:56:05,239 --> 00:56:08,879
Speaker 2: But we've talked about Kyler Murray as a dog. It's

1060
00:56:08,920 --> 00:56:13,360
Speaker 2: the only time to back them super profitable. I just

1061
00:56:14,719 --> 00:56:16,960
Speaker 2: can't separate my hate probably from this areas in the

1062
00:56:17,000 --> 00:56:20,799
Speaker 2: team and this Green Bay team. At some point they

1063
00:56:20,840 --> 00:56:23,480
Speaker 2: are gonna be undervalued by the general public, right. That's

1064
00:56:23,680 --> 00:56:26,319
Speaker 2: they just they haven't put together a couple of weeks now.

1065
00:56:26,320 --> 00:56:29,279
Speaker 2: They have not put together enough for me to be

1066
00:56:29,360 --> 00:56:31,160
Speaker 2: confident enough to bet in them as a big favorite.

1067
00:56:31,200 --> 00:56:32,840
Speaker 2: But this is a This is a good number, Like

1068
00:56:32,880 --> 00:56:35,239
Speaker 2: my model is at seven and a half, they're six

1069
00:56:35,280 --> 00:56:36,920
Speaker 2: and a half. I should be bening Green Bay, but

1070
00:56:37,719 --> 00:56:39,439
Speaker 2: I just don't know, just the same way I thought

1071
00:56:39,440 --> 00:56:42,120
Speaker 2: about the Bills, where it's like the Bills they were

1072
00:56:42,160 --> 00:56:45,200
Speaker 2: getting too much respect on the team that are currently not.

1073
00:56:45,360 --> 00:56:47,000
Speaker 2: I think it's the same for Green Bay, where it's

1074
00:56:47,040 --> 00:56:51,200
Speaker 2: like this feels like a number based off still just

1075
00:56:51,320 --> 00:56:53,840
Speaker 2: public reception wise of what they've done in the past,

1076
00:56:53,920 --> 00:56:56,759
Speaker 2: where I honestly thought this would be like four and

1077
00:56:56,800 --> 00:56:58,719
Speaker 2: a half and I was gonna have great value in

1078
00:56:58,760 --> 00:57:00,160
Speaker 2: Green Bay. I could give them out, but it's six

1079
00:57:00,200 --> 00:57:02,359
Speaker 2: and a half. I'll still give him out a still

1080
00:57:02,360 --> 00:57:04,520
Speaker 2: good number, But I just I don't know what to

1081
00:57:04,600 --> 00:57:06,680
Speaker 2: do on with this one yet, not knowing the starters are.

1082
00:57:07,680 --> 00:57:10,439
Speaker 1: It's interesting you say if Kyler was the starter, you'd

1083
00:57:10,480 --> 00:57:15,200
Speaker 1: feel better, because I would too. Like Jacoby. I just

1084
00:57:15,400 --> 00:57:20,160
Speaker 1: I feel like with Jacoby Brissett, the floor is obviously

1085
00:57:21,120 --> 00:57:28,720
Speaker 1: significantly higher and sort of consistent, and the ceiling is

1086
00:57:28,840 --> 00:57:30,880
Speaker 1: much much lower, like you kind of know where you're

1087
00:57:30,880 --> 00:57:31,040
Speaker 1: going to.

1088
00:57:31,160 --> 00:57:32,960
Speaker 2: We talked about what this year this has happened with

1089
00:57:33,040 --> 00:57:36,200
Speaker 2: these backups have started look good in game one and

1090
00:57:36,280 --> 00:57:38,760
Speaker 2: then yeah, once they have a little bit of tape

1091
00:57:38,800 --> 00:57:40,600
Speaker 2: on them game two, they fall off a cliff because

1092
00:57:40,640 --> 00:57:43,840
Speaker 2: it's like you can't gamescript the same twenty plays, you

1093
00:57:43,880 --> 00:57:46,520
Speaker 2: can't run his favorite ten plays again, Like it's just

1094
00:57:47,120 --> 00:57:49,920
Speaker 2: doesn't work. So that that's another reason where it's like

1095
00:57:50,000 --> 00:57:51,880
Speaker 2: kind of interesting with your presett in the spot that

1096
00:57:53,720 --> 00:57:56,880
Speaker 2: we've seen this year, basically every team, the second start

1097
00:57:56,920 --> 00:58:01,480
Speaker 2: by the backup has been pretty much a disaster. Other

1098
00:58:01,520 --> 00:58:03,479
Speaker 2: than Jackson Dart or I guess even dag and Dart's

1099
00:58:03,480 --> 00:58:04,200
Speaker 2: second start.

1100
00:58:04,240 --> 00:58:06,360
Speaker 1: His second start was a disaster. Yeah, he looked totally

1101
00:58:06,480 --> 00:58:08,560
Speaker 1: like a rookie, and then he got to go up

1102
00:58:08,560 --> 00:58:11,600
Speaker 1: against a terrible defense in the Eagle, so you know,

1103
00:58:11,720 --> 00:58:13,560
Speaker 1: he looked like a Hall of Famer Again, He's a

1104
00:58:13,640 --> 00:58:15,920
Speaker 1: lucky guy. All right, Well, let's put a pin in

1105
00:58:16,000 --> 00:58:17,400
Speaker 1: that one because I want to talk about it on

1106
00:58:17,480 --> 00:58:20,680
Speaker 1: Thursday in case we get news about Kyler Orr. By

1107
00:58:20,720 --> 00:58:23,520
Speaker 1: the way, maybe we start feeling differently, Like just talking

1108
00:58:23,560 --> 00:58:25,920
Speaker 1: about Jacobe Brissett in the second game as a backup.

1109
00:58:26,640 --> 00:58:28,480
Speaker 1: You know, I'm starting to think, is Michael Parson's just

1110
00:58:28,560 --> 00:58:32,120
Speaker 1: going to have his breakout game as a Packer Washington

1111
00:58:32,320 --> 00:58:36,360
Speaker 1: at Dallas. Dallas is a two point underdog. There's actually

1112
00:58:36,400 --> 00:58:38,040
Speaker 1: a book out there that has Dallas at one and

1113
00:58:38,120 --> 00:58:40,880
Speaker 1: a half. If you're interested in the Commanders, so go

1114
00:58:41,040 --> 00:58:45,240
Speaker 1: shop around and like I get the number here. The

1115
00:58:45,280 --> 00:58:48,160
Speaker 1: Commander showed a lot of flaws last night. Against better

1116
00:58:48,240 --> 00:58:52,240
Speaker 1: teams than the Bears, they would have been blown out

1117
00:58:53,520 --> 00:58:58,200
Speaker 1: wouldn't have been a question at all. So to me,

1118
00:58:58,600 --> 00:59:01,400
Speaker 1: I think you can just narrow down the difference between

1119
00:59:01,520 --> 00:59:04,520
Speaker 1: last week and this week to better quarterbacks. Dak is

1120
00:59:04,560 --> 00:59:05,440
Speaker 1: playing like an MVP.

1121
00:59:05,720 --> 00:59:06,080
Speaker 2: He just is.

1122
00:59:06,120 --> 00:59:08,000
Speaker 1: He's playing like one of the best quarterbacks in the league.

1123
00:59:08,520 --> 00:59:12,040
Speaker 1: And if he had a defense that was remotely complimentary,

1124
00:59:14,040 --> 00:59:18,240
Speaker 1: the Dallas Cowboys would possibly be the odds on favor

1125
00:59:18,320 --> 00:59:20,520
Speaker 1: to win this division right now. Instead, they're two point

1126
00:59:20,600 --> 00:59:24,400
Speaker 1: underdogs at home because their defense is tragic. I don't

1127
00:59:24,440 --> 00:59:26,120
Speaker 1: really have like a strong opinion on this one like

1128
00:59:26,160 --> 00:59:28,400
Speaker 1: I do other games. I'd still lean Cowboys.

1129
00:59:28,440 --> 00:59:32,240
Speaker 3: Here, burning bright beneath the North Texas sky, in the

1130
00:59:32,360 --> 00:59:35,360
Speaker 3: heart of the lone Star State is a galaxy of

1131
00:59:35,480 --> 00:59:37,560
Speaker 3: extraordinary football players.

1132
00:59:39,320 --> 00:59:41,320
Speaker 2: They are the Dallas Cowboys.

1133
00:59:42,640 --> 00:59:42,800
Speaker 1: Yeah.

1134
00:59:42,800 --> 00:59:45,960
Speaker 2: And for people asking about totals like the under here,

1135
00:59:46,040 --> 00:59:49,080
Speaker 2: it's a gross under The total of some books hard

1136
00:59:49,160 --> 00:59:51,000
Speaker 2: Rock included is at fifty five and a half. So

1137
00:59:52,720 --> 00:59:56,680
Speaker 2: Divisional game, I get it. Both both defenses are bad

1138
00:59:56,840 --> 01:00:00,000
Speaker 2: people expect a ton of points. You've seen division game

1139
01:00:00,240 --> 01:00:03,840
Speaker 2: can just be ugly and sloppy sometimes, and because these

1140
01:00:03,880 --> 01:00:05,880
Speaker 2: teams just know each other so well, it doesn't matter

1141
01:00:05,920 --> 01:00:08,040
Speaker 2: how bad their defenses or how banked up the defenses are,

1142
01:00:08,280 --> 01:00:11,760
Speaker 2: just can get really fluky in that way. And I

1143
01:00:11,880 --> 01:00:15,440
Speaker 2: am shocked how much respect professional money is coming in

1144
01:00:15,560 --> 01:00:17,800
Speaker 2: on this Cowboys team, because it's not just one book

1145
01:00:17,840 --> 01:00:19,760
Speaker 2: at one and a half. There's a ton of books.

1146
01:00:20,400 --> 01:00:22,520
Speaker 1: That's been going on since we since we started the

1147
01:00:22,520 --> 01:00:22,880
Speaker 1: show then.

1148
01:00:23,800 --> 01:00:26,640
Speaker 2: So I honestly wanted to be on the Commanders here.

1149
01:00:27,200 --> 01:00:29,520
Speaker 2: I'm like, Chad au Wait, talk to people, see what

1150
01:00:29,600 --> 01:00:32,400
Speaker 2: I'm missing. I just have them great as a higher

1151
01:00:32,520 --> 01:00:34,840
Speaker 2: as a better team right now because of health where

1152
01:00:36,160 --> 01:00:38,560
Speaker 2: you know, think Terry mcclarmy's gonna be back for this game,

1153
01:00:38,680 --> 01:00:40,760
Speaker 2: not the biggest dealth he's not, but it still would

1154
01:00:40,760 --> 01:00:43,360
Speaker 2: be improven. But the Cowboys, you go through their injuries,

1155
01:00:43,360 --> 01:00:44,400
Speaker 2: I don't know if they're going to get any of

1156
01:00:44,400 --> 01:00:46,120
Speaker 2: these guys back, like it seems like it's gonna be

1157
01:00:46,160 --> 01:00:48,920
Speaker 2: another week for them being a crobbly banked up defensively

1158
01:00:48,960 --> 01:00:53,880
Speaker 2: and across the offensive line. So Dak once again playing

1159
01:00:53,880 --> 01:00:56,280
Speaker 2: an MVP level. I think he is eleven touchdowns one

1160
01:00:56,360 --> 01:00:58,600
Speaker 2: pick in his last like three or four games. He's

1161
01:00:58,640 --> 01:01:01,880
Speaker 2: just been incredible. It really is about the defense. So

1162
01:01:02,480 --> 01:01:04,840
Speaker 2: I get why the pros are coming in on this

1163
01:01:04,920 --> 01:01:07,520
Speaker 2: Cowboys team at two and a half. I get it

1164
01:01:07,800 --> 01:01:11,760
Speaker 2: makes sense for the early line movement. I'll be patient.

1165
01:01:11,840 --> 01:01:13,520
Speaker 2: Like Chad said, Washington is not a good team. I

1166
01:01:13,640 --> 01:01:16,040
Speaker 2: just think they're a better team than Dallas is right now.

1167
01:01:16,240 --> 01:01:19,760
Speaker 2: So this flips and I can get Washington is a dog.

1168
01:01:19,960 --> 01:01:22,320
Speaker 2: That's the position I'd rather be on. If you're trying

1169
01:01:22,360 --> 01:01:24,600
Speaker 2: to force it right now, grab a two and a

1170
01:01:24,600 --> 01:01:27,080
Speaker 2: half on Dallas. I don't hate it. You're joining the

1171
01:01:27,160 --> 01:01:30,520
Speaker 2: professionals early here on Tuesday, and they obviously they see

1172
01:01:30,560 --> 01:01:32,120
Speaker 2: something they really like in this Dallas side.

1173
01:01:34,720 --> 01:01:37,320
Speaker 1: I feel like I'm just sharp today. I'm on a

1174
01:01:37,360 --> 01:01:40,760
Speaker 1: lot of sharp sides. You are, Yeah, you're locked in,

1175
01:01:41,320 --> 01:01:44,400
Speaker 1: locked in. Let's talk about the prime time games. We

1176
01:01:44,480 --> 01:01:48,040
Speaker 1: got a primetime spotlight. We're all going to try to

1177
01:01:48,080 --> 01:01:52,040
Speaker 1: watch them, even though they start, you know, at ungodly hours,

1178
01:01:52,080 --> 01:01:54,720
Speaker 1: and the only person who didn't stay for that is Simon.

1179
01:01:55,240 --> 01:01:57,600
Speaker 1: We know you're gonna want to bet them, so we

1180
01:01:57,720 --> 01:02:01,120
Speaker 1: want to package our games into a primetime spotlight. First

1181
01:02:01,200 --> 01:02:04,440
Speaker 1: one up Atlanta, San Francisco Sunday night. The forty nine

1182
01:02:04,520 --> 01:02:07,320
Speaker 1: ers are two and a half point favorites at Hard

1183
01:02:07,400 --> 01:02:10,360
Speaker 1: Rock Beat. Still a lot of threes out there. I

1184
01:02:10,400 --> 01:02:13,920
Speaker 1: would like to play the Niners here. It's really a

1185
01:02:14,040 --> 01:02:17,000
Speaker 1: question of Rock Party. I think I'm just waiting to

1186
01:02:17,040 --> 01:02:18,960
Speaker 1: find out is he going to play or not. Kyle

1187
01:02:19,040 --> 01:02:22,400
Speaker 1: Shanahana said on Monday that he was hopeful of Brock

1188
01:02:22,440 --> 01:02:27,600
Speaker 1: Party and Ricky Piersoll would both be doing positive things

1189
01:02:27,680 --> 01:02:30,720
Speaker 1: and making progress in practice this Wednesday, so a little

1190
01:02:30,720 --> 01:02:36,280
Speaker 1: more for Thursday show. Atlanta's defense totally legit, totally legit.

1191
01:02:36,400 --> 01:02:40,800
Speaker 1: They're doing great things. I just feel like I'm going

1192
01:02:40,840 --> 01:02:42,520
Speaker 1: to fade a team that just beat the Bills on

1193
01:02:43,320 --> 01:02:46,240
Speaker 1: in prime time because I know I'm getting probably at

1194
01:02:46,320 --> 01:02:47,880
Speaker 1: least half a point or a point of value. On

1195
01:02:47,920 --> 01:02:48,400
Speaker 1: the other side.

1196
01:02:50,760 --> 01:02:52,840
Speaker 2: I don't know about that Atlanta defense. They gave up

1197
01:02:53,200 --> 01:02:55,480
Speaker 2: thirty of Carolina in twenty seven in Mariota and he

1198
01:02:55,560 --> 01:02:57,480
Speaker 2: was backing up for Washington, so I do have questions.

1199
01:02:57,560 --> 01:03:02,040
Speaker 2: They did look good, they played well, Honestly, Josh Allen,

1200
01:03:02,200 --> 01:03:05,160
Speaker 2: just an off night. I mean there's nothing more brained

1201
01:03:05,200 --> 01:03:06,480
Speaker 2: in here, and the old guy in the back corner

1202
01:03:06,520 --> 01:03:09,400
Speaker 2: of the sportsbook saying, Josh Allen's got weak legs now

1203
01:03:10,160 --> 01:03:13,520
Speaker 2: too much sex being married? It's like, d out man,

1204
01:03:13,680 --> 01:03:15,600
Speaker 2: what are you talking about? He just had an off

1205
01:03:15,720 --> 01:03:18,640
Speaker 2: night that was a disaster from the get go. So

1206
01:03:18,840 --> 01:03:21,000
Speaker 2: I don't know what to deal with Atlanta. I can't

1207
01:03:21,000 --> 01:03:22,760
Speaker 2: get a read on them. I'm like you. I I

1208
01:03:23,040 --> 01:03:25,880
Speaker 2: was like, initially, don't we just back to forty nine

1209
01:03:25,960 --> 01:03:27,560
Speaker 2: ers here? Especially now that it's moved to two and

1210
01:03:27,600 --> 01:03:30,880
Speaker 2: a half. This was three, it's now two and a half. Yes,

1211
01:03:31,680 --> 01:03:33,880
Speaker 2: I feel like that's where we're supposed to be. And

1212
01:03:34,520 --> 01:03:36,680
Speaker 2: I'm a sucker if I go the other way, and

1213
01:03:36,800 --> 01:03:40,680
Speaker 2: I'd take Atlanta. But I don't know. It's like, like

1214
01:03:40,800 --> 01:03:44,320
Speaker 2: you just said, Atlanta's offensive clicking. Their defense as bad

1215
01:03:44,360 --> 01:03:46,800
Speaker 2: as they can be. They had moments in that game,

1216
01:03:46,840 --> 01:03:50,640
Speaker 2: but they looked really competitive. But yeah, everything in my

1217
01:03:50,720 --> 01:03:52,840
Speaker 2: body is just telling me forty nine ers are probably

1218
01:03:52,880 --> 01:03:57,520
Speaker 2: the right side here. But once again, this is life

1219
01:03:57,560 --> 01:04:00,280
Speaker 2: without Fred Warner. What is this going to be? Like? Check?

1220
01:04:00,600 --> 01:04:01,440
Speaker 1: That's a great point.

1221
01:04:02,320 --> 01:04:06,600
Speaker 2: Now and bosa yea and am I my model not

1222
01:04:06,680 --> 01:04:10,880
Speaker 2: accounted enough? For you can survive the Bosa loss, you

1223
01:04:11,000 --> 01:04:15,880
Speaker 2: cannot survive losing Fred Warner. I mean, now you're going

1224
01:04:15,960 --> 01:04:18,360
Speaker 2: again to arguably the best running back in football, and

1225
01:04:18,520 --> 01:04:22,440
Speaker 2: Pejn Robinson. It's like disaster, disaster, disaster. It's just I

1226
01:04:22,480 --> 01:04:25,200
Speaker 2: feel so bad for him. So I'm trying to find

1227
01:04:25,320 --> 01:04:28,760
Speaker 2: reasons to back this foreigners team. I think I'm slowly

1228
01:04:28,800 --> 01:04:32,320
Speaker 2: talking myself into this Atlanta side, and that maybe the

1229
01:04:32,400 --> 01:04:34,840
Speaker 2: value isn't caught up yet to this, the destimation of

1230
01:04:34,840 --> 01:04:36,880
Speaker 2: all these injuries. And even if Purty does come back

1231
01:04:37,240 --> 01:04:39,800
Speaker 2: and Ricky Parcels does come back and Kittle does come back,

1232
01:04:41,360 --> 01:04:43,520
Speaker 2: that's gonna be a huge approvement to their offense. What

1233
01:04:43,680 --> 01:04:47,040
Speaker 2: do they have left defensive that they've lost argall be

1234
01:04:47,120 --> 01:04:49,840
Speaker 2: the best player, most important player in all football to

1235
01:04:49,920 --> 01:04:53,000
Speaker 2: a defense. I couldn't have lost him. So maybe maybe

1236
01:04:53,040 --> 01:04:54,880
Speaker 2: we'll be lucky I can avoid this one, But something

1237
01:04:54,960 --> 01:04:56,280
Speaker 2: tells you I'm not gonna be able to avoid it,

1238
01:04:56,320 --> 01:04:58,080
Speaker 2: and I'm grabbing the two and a half. Probably won't

1239
01:04:58,160 --> 01:04:59,880
Speaker 2: get off this call on this Atlanta team.

1240
01:05:00,320 --> 01:05:04,600
Speaker 1: Oh man, you nailed it. I totally forgot about Fred Warner.

1241
01:05:04,640 --> 01:05:09,240
Speaker 1: I was so focused on Brock Purty the Niners. I mean,

1242
01:05:09,280 --> 01:05:11,000
Speaker 1: obviously they'll be able to clean up some of this

1243
01:05:11,560 --> 01:05:15,920
Speaker 1: during practice this week, but they lost that game arguably

1244
01:05:16,840 --> 01:05:19,960
Speaker 1: because of communication issues when Fred Warner went out, like

1245
01:05:20,040 --> 01:05:23,760
Speaker 1: there was at least one touchdown and multiple plays that

1246
01:05:23,920 --> 01:05:27,640
Speaker 1: did not get covered because they were not communicating, and

1247
01:05:27,800 --> 01:05:31,200
Speaker 1: the guys who were sort of in new positions, no

1248
01:05:31,680 --> 01:05:35,120
Speaker 1: disrespect to them, just didn't know what they were supposed

1249
01:05:35,160 --> 01:05:42,240
Speaker 1: to do and got confused by the motion. So that's tough, man.

1250
01:05:42,320 --> 01:05:45,480
Speaker 1: I wanted back the Niners. I hate the Falcons. I

1251
01:05:45,520 --> 01:05:48,560
Speaker 1: hate the number. I just don't think it's like I

1252
01:05:49,520 --> 01:05:53,400
Speaker 1: think Beijon is great. I'm a little bit down on Pennix,

1253
01:05:54,360 --> 01:05:58,080
Speaker 1: like he is too often getting caught up when his

1254
01:05:58,240 --> 01:05:59,280
Speaker 1: first guy isn't open.

1255
01:06:00,320 --> 01:06:01,320
Speaker 2: I told you that coming in the year.

1256
01:06:01,640 --> 01:06:04,360
Speaker 1: Totally, totally, But I feel like I feel like they're

1257
01:06:04,400 --> 01:06:07,920
Speaker 1: getting They're getting greater, a little too high because of

1258
01:06:08,000 --> 01:06:11,160
Speaker 1: how good their rush game is and because Bijon. The

1259
01:06:11,320 --> 01:06:12,800
Speaker 1: rest of the world is catching up to what a

1260
01:06:12,840 --> 01:06:14,560
Speaker 1: lot of professional betters have known for a while that

1261
01:06:14,600 --> 01:06:18,280
Speaker 1: Bijeon is legit top three player in the NFL with

1262
01:06:18,400 --> 01:06:21,000
Speaker 1: what he can do, and last night he was spectacular.

1263
01:06:21,440 --> 01:06:24,800
Speaker 1: But I worry that they're still overrated.

1264
01:06:25,400 --> 01:06:25,840
Speaker 2: It's fair.

1265
01:06:34,440 --> 01:06:37,280
Speaker 1: This Monday night doubleheader. I'm just so freaking mad about it.

1266
01:06:37,800 --> 01:06:41,200
Speaker 1: I just really am Tampa Bay Detroit Detroit minus four

1267
01:06:41,240 --> 01:06:43,520
Speaker 1: and a half. It's the game one of the doubleheader.

1268
01:06:45,000 --> 01:06:47,400
Speaker 1: I'm very excited to hear your opinion on this game.

1269
01:06:47,680 --> 01:06:53,240
Speaker 1: As the true blue Baker backer. They against against the odds,

1270
01:06:53,720 --> 01:06:57,680
Speaker 1: against the professional betting community, against everything that is sane

1271
01:06:57,840 --> 01:07:00,600
Speaker 1: and holy. You have been backing Baker a week after

1272
01:07:00,680 --> 01:07:04,120
Speaker 1: week or after week and been rewarded for your loyalty.

1273
01:07:05,400 --> 01:07:07,280
Speaker 1: Four and a half the numbers move from five and

1274
01:07:07,320 --> 01:07:13,520
Speaker 1: a half. This is a Detroit spot if there ever

1275
01:07:13,760 --> 01:07:17,040
Speaker 1: was one in a vacuum. And I'll explain what I mean,

1276
01:07:17,160 --> 01:07:18,800
Speaker 1: but before I get any further, I just want to

1277
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Speaker 1: hear your opinion.

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01:07:21,200 --> 01:07:23,840
Speaker 2: Yeah. I talked a little Sunday night that I saw

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01:07:23,920 --> 01:07:25,320
Speaker 2: the line. I was like, oh my god, I'm going

1280
01:07:25,360 --> 01:07:29,560
Speaker 2: to have to back Detroit R and I and surprisingly game.

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01:07:29,680 --> 01:07:31,480
Speaker 2: Only real bet I made is the under in this game.

1282
01:07:31,520 --> 01:07:33,080
Speaker 2: The total I think was fifty three and a half

1283
01:07:33,080 --> 01:07:35,959
Speaker 2: and it's come down to fifty three. Still like that under.

1284
01:07:36,680 --> 01:07:40,280
Speaker 2: This really is about this has to catch up in

1285
01:07:40,320 --> 01:07:44,240
Speaker 2: Tampa now. If Mike Evans comes back, that is a

1286
01:07:44,360 --> 01:07:48,080
Speaker 2: big deal for that offense because that's just something. Even

1287
01:07:48,120 --> 01:07:49,440
Speaker 2: if he doesn't stretch, you feel like he used to.

1288
01:07:49,600 --> 01:07:52,840
Speaker 2: That's a guy in the red zone that just against

1289
01:07:52,880 --> 01:07:56,080
Speaker 2: these young corners, backup corners that Destrotroit team will have,

1290
01:07:56,600 --> 01:07:59,080
Speaker 2: you will win one on ones and Baker will give

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01:07:59,160 --> 01:08:01,000
Speaker 2: him multiple chance to win that one on one. He

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01:08:01,120 --> 01:08:04,280
Speaker 2: knows where his money is made, so that to me

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01:08:04,440 --> 01:08:06,360
Speaker 2: is a big thing. If he comes back. I think

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01:08:06,440 --> 01:08:09,600
Speaker 2: he is because the early line movement has been towards

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01:08:09,720 --> 01:08:14,080
Speaker 2: this Bucks team. It's gone to come back. It's down

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01:08:14,120 --> 01:08:16,960
Speaker 2: to four and a half now, So you know Detroit's

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01:08:16,960 --> 01:08:22,400
Speaker 2: got injuries, they got guys getting suspended, you expect expect

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01:08:23,080 --> 01:08:28,200
Speaker 2: Man Campbell historically bounce back game against a Baker team

1299
01:08:28,240 --> 01:08:31,519
Speaker 2: that yeah, this is technically a Baker line. This is gritty.

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01:08:31,560 --> 01:08:35,040
Speaker 2: Baker usually covers back towards his number. He is so

1301
01:08:35,320 --> 01:08:39,040
Speaker 2: due for a bad Baker game. Three pick Baker game,

1302
01:08:39,320 --> 01:08:41,479
Speaker 2: Like we know that he has that in his bag.

1303
01:08:41,560 --> 01:08:45,360
Speaker 2: It's it's Baker. So it's all there for the bounce back.

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01:08:45,400 --> 01:08:50,000
Speaker 2: Detroit shockingly make this number minus six and a half,

1305
01:08:50,320 --> 01:08:54,639
Speaker 2: so like, I can't believe it. It's it's it's really

1306
01:08:54,680 --> 01:08:56,600
Speaker 2: about the injuries to this Bucks team, I believe, and

1307
01:08:56,640 --> 01:08:59,439
Speaker 2: all the injuries they've had compared to Detroit, who does

1308
01:08:59,479 --> 01:09:03,760
Speaker 2: have injury put historically their offense in these spots just

1309
01:09:03,920 --> 01:09:07,280
Speaker 2: role teams. And I'm gonna dive into the trends and stuff,

1310
01:09:07,280 --> 01:09:10,160
Speaker 2: but I just feel like every time Campbell has a

1311
01:09:10,280 --> 01:09:12,920
Speaker 2: day where the fourth downs don't work like the previous game,

1312
01:09:13,520 --> 01:09:15,320
Speaker 2: the next game they go five for five on fourth

1313
01:09:15,320 --> 01:09:17,000
Speaker 2: downs or whatever it is. I know I'm probably just

1314
01:09:17,120 --> 01:09:19,519
Speaker 2: making that up, but it feels that way because he's

1315
01:09:19,560 --> 01:09:22,400
Speaker 2: the seventy percent cover like they didn't cover last game.

1316
01:09:22,520 --> 01:09:24,320
Speaker 2: Usually these are the spots they bounce back and cover,

1317
01:09:24,479 --> 01:09:28,360
Speaker 2: so I know, I know, Jad it's sickly going. It's

1318
01:09:28,400 --> 01:09:30,280
Speaker 2: my guy, Baker. He's been so good to me. He's

1319
01:09:30,320 --> 01:09:31,880
Speaker 2: one of the few guys who I've just been betting

1320
01:09:31,920 --> 01:09:34,280
Speaker 2: every week and it's just he's just you know, don't

1321
01:09:34,320 --> 01:09:35,680
Speaker 2: need to watch because he's gonna win it for me.

1322
01:09:35,680 --> 01:09:38,040
Speaker 2: But I do watch because I love love the ride.

1323
01:09:38,120 --> 01:09:40,880
Speaker 2: But yeah, this is this is Detroit number Detroit line,

1324
01:09:40,920 --> 01:09:42,400
Speaker 2: and I'll probably end up on that side.

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01:09:42,800 --> 01:09:44,640
Speaker 1: I'm so glad to hear you say that, because I

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01:09:44,680 --> 01:09:46,960
Speaker 1: didn't want to have a fight about this because I

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01:09:47,120 --> 01:09:50,720
Speaker 1: love Detroit here. I'm worried about, you know, the lack

1328
01:09:50,800 --> 01:09:54,639
Speaker 1: of corners and Brian branch has has already been suspended.

1329
01:09:54,680 --> 01:09:56,760
Speaker 1: He can appeal, he might, he might be able to

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01:09:56,800 --> 01:09:57,559
Speaker 1: play this weekend, but.

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01:09:58,240 --> 01:09:59,320
Speaker 2: He's gonna lose that appeal.

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01:09:59,400 --> 01:10:01,200
Speaker 1: I think I think we got to expect that he's

1333
01:10:01,240 --> 01:10:04,360
Speaker 1: not going to be playing this weekend. It's a Lions line,

1334
01:10:04,520 --> 01:10:07,760
Speaker 1: are you kidding me? The Lions at home in a dome.

1335
01:10:07,960 --> 01:10:11,880
Speaker 1: Jared Goff at home in a dome in his career.

1336
01:10:12,920 --> 01:10:16,280
Speaker 1: So this includes the Rams, but mostly the Lions. Sixty

1337
01:10:16,439 --> 01:10:19,240
Speaker 1: nine against the spread. This is the spot.

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01:10:21,200 --> 01:10:25,040
Speaker 2: Hello Detroit, you.

1339
01:10:27,880 --> 01:10:30,360
Speaker 1: You got to back the Lions here. I love the

1340
01:10:30,439 --> 01:10:32,920
Speaker 1: Lions here. I'm so glad to hear you say that,

1341
01:10:33,040 --> 01:10:34,479
Speaker 1: because I was afraid, like we're going to have to

1342
01:10:34,520 --> 01:10:36,840
Speaker 1: have a big debate about this and.

1343
01:10:38,360 --> 01:10:40,200
Speaker 2: On Baker. I would have been on Baker, but I'm

1344
01:10:40,200 --> 01:10:42,160
Speaker 2: gonna trust my computer because I know I'm too close

1345
01:10:42,240 --> 01:10:43,640
Speaker 2: to it. It's like, I just love you.

1346
01:10:43,720 --> 01:10:46,360
Speaker 1: Are very close to it. It's the best you do,

1347
01:10:46,800 --> 01:10:48,679
Speaker 1: you do and it's great and it's a roller coaster.

1348
01:10:49,320 --> 01:10:51,800
Speaker 1: It's the difference between you and me. You love that ride.

1349
01:10:52,640 --> 01:10:54,800
Speaker 1: I want to stay off that ride. I want that

1350
01:10:55,000 --> 01:10:58,040
Speaker 1: ride to be smooth and easy from the start, from

1351
01:10:58,080 --> 01:11:00,760
Speaker 1: the start of the game. I just want to be right.

1352
01:11:01,560 --> 01:11:04,000
Speaker 1: I don't want the ride on the way to being right.

1353
01:11:05,840 --> 01:11:09,160
Speaker 1: That's the difference. One more Monday night game.

1354
01:11:12,040 --> 01:11:14,640
Speaker 2: All my righted friends about for Monday.

1355
01:11:14,439 --> 01:11:20,000
Speaker 1: Night Houston and Seattle. I said I had three games

1356
01:11:20,040 --> 01:11:22,840
Speaker 1: I was thinking about for Chad's choice. I went with

1357
01:11:22,880 --> 01:11:25,599
Speaker 1: Cleveland minus two and a half against Miami. The other

1358
01:11:25,640 --> 01:11:27,160
Speaker 1: game was going to be Denver in the Bank and

1359
01:11:27,439 --> 01:11:29,599
Speaker 1: the Giants, but I wanted to wait for the six

1360
01:11:29,680 --> 01:11:34,080
Speaker 1: and a half. This was my other game, Houston plus

1361
01:11:34,160 --> 01:11:39,440
Speaker 1: three and a half Monday night football against the Seattle Seahawks.

1362
01:11:40,040 --> 01:11:44,600
Speaker 1: This game's going on at ten pm Eastern. There's no

1363
01:11:44,800 --> 01:11:46,720
Speaker 1: way I'm going to be up for this game.

1364
01:11:49,479 --> 01:11:51,880
Speaker 2: What's up. Take a little nap midday, you'll be up late.

1365
01:11:52,800 --> 01:11:55,760
Speaker 2: Take a nap from like one to two. Give you

1366
01:11:55,760 --> 01:11:57,080
Speaker 2: an extra two hour boost that night.

1367
01:11:57,560 --> 01:11:59,000
Speaker 1: I don't know, but I got to like, you know,

1368
01:11:59,080 --> 01:12:00,720
Speaker 1: I like to exercise in the morning, and.

1369
01:12:01,520 --> 01:12:04,040
Speaker 2: It's even better. Work out so hard you pass out after.

1370
01:12:04,360 --> 01:12:06,800
Speaker 1: That's just rough. It just you know it throws off

1371
01:12:06,840 --> 01:12:11,160
Speaker 1: my whole schedule. I bet the Texans at plus three

1372
01:12:11,200 --> 01:12:12,960
Speaker 1: and a half, the first bet that I actually made.

1373
01:12:13,280 --> 01:12:14,800
Speaker 2: Look at Chad sharp, Chad.

1374
01:12:15,760 --> 01:12:19,080
Speaker 1: Look, we love the Seahawks after their win over the Jags,

1375
01:12:19,320 --> 01:12:22,920
Speaker 1: and the defense is great. I think the Texans defense

1376
01:12:23,000 --> 01:12:28,439
Speaker 1: is actually better across like the cool kid metrics. The

1377
01:12:28,640 --> 01:12:31,759
Speaker 1: only area where the Seahawks are measurably better on defense

1378
01:12:32,200 --> 01:12:34,600
Speaker 1: than the Texans is against the run. The Texans are

1379
01:12:34,640 --> 01:12:37,760
Speaker 1: actually mediocre. But I actually, in a weird way, think

1380
01:12:37,840 --> 01:12:41,920
Speaker 1: that plays into an advantage for the bet because it

1381
01:12:42,000 --> 01:12:44,639
Speaker 1: means the Seahawks, who have historically been bad at home

1382
01:12:44,720 --> 01:12:50,719
Speaker 1: under Mike McDonald, like demonstrably worse at home. That plays

1383
01:12:50,760 --> 01:12:53,160
Speaker 1: into the bet because maybe they'll just try to run

1384
01:12:53,200 --> 01:12:55,040
Speaker 1: the ball more and chew up the clock and it's

1385
01:12:55,080 --> 01:12:57,200
Speaker 1: going to be a lower scoring game with more opportunities

1386
01:12:57,240 --> 01:12:59,800
Speaker 1: for the Technans to keep it close. So give me

1387
01:13:00,160 --> 01:13:00,880
Speaker 1: plus three and a half.

1388
01:13:02,200 --> 01:13:05,240
Speaker 2: Boom, Yeah, love it. Don't understand this line at all.

1389
01:13:07,200 --> 01:13:10,360
Speaker 2: Three three is right, Three two and a half feels right.

1390
01:13:10,520 --> 01:13:12,280
Speaker 2: I cannot believe we're getting the hook. I mean the

1391
01:13:12,320 --> 01:13:15,280
Speaker 2: total is forty and a half. So anytime you have

1392
01:13:15,320 --> 01:13:17,360
Speaker 2: a little total like that between two good defenses and

1393
01:13:17,400 --> 01:13:20,920
Speaker 2: they're giving you the hook. Don't think it. Just bet

1394
01:13:21,000 --> 01:13:24,360
Speaker 2: it Houston and the side this is. I mean, we

1395
01:13:24,400 --> 01:13:26,960
Speaker 2: don't really talk putting Monday night games in. This could

1396
01:13:27,000 --> 01:13:28,640
Speaker 2: be one of them that we do because it's like

1397
01:13:28,800 --> 01:13:33,880
Speaker 2: an insane, insane number. Seattle is good. Are they three

1398
01:13:33,920 --> 01:13:36,200
Speaker 2: and a half points better at home in this Houston team?

1399
01:13:36,479 --> 01:13:39,320
Speaker 2: No chance. And I just looking right now at the

1400
01:13:39,400 --> 01:13:43,600
Speaker 2: early money, it is all all Seattle. So might you

1401
01:13:43,680 --> 01:13:44,920
Speaker 2: might be able to get three and a half later

1402
01:13:45,000 --> 01:13:46,800
Speaker 2: in the week. It might hold there just because it's

1403
01:13:46,840 --> 01:13:49,720
Speaker 2: so much Seattle money right now, But have to think

1404
01:13:50,360 --> 01:13:53,000
Speaker 2: respected professional money will come and take a large position

1405
01:13:53,520 --> 01:13:57,040
Speaker 2: on this Houston side. It's just all the trends. Everyone's

1406
01:13:57,040 --> 01:13:58,639
Speaker 2: gonna have the number of sched just talked about. They're

1407
01:13:58,680 --> 01:14:02,080
Speaker 2: just not the same team Seattle at home. They're not

1408
01:14:02,240 --> 01:14:04,479
Speaker 2: what we were used to in the mid two thousands

1409
01:14:04,600 --> 01:14:06,720
Speaker 2: of just a dominant home field advantage has not been

1410
01:14:06,840 --> 01:14:10,080
Speaker 2: that way, especially the last five six years. So three

1411
01:14:10,080 --> 01:14:12,320
Speaker 2: and a half with the hook, can't avoid it, love it,

1412
01:14:12,400 --> 01:14:13,720
Speaker 2: gimme Houston plus three and a half.

1413
01:14:14,080 --> 01:14:15,680
Speaker 1: I'm a little worried that we're going to have to

1414
01:14:15,760 --> 01:14:23,240
Speaker 1: have both Detroit and Houston in the contest, and just

1415
01:14:23,439 --> 01:14:25,360
Speaker 1: like it's going to be a miserable Monday.

1416
01:14:26,479 --> 01:14:28,600
Speaker 2: It'd be tough because we nailed obviously last night we

1417
01:14:28,640 --> 01:14:30,960
Speaker 2: went to and up we were on Atlanta and yeah,

1418
01:14:31,200 --> 01:14:32,920
Speaker 2: and it's like, are we really going to keep rolling

1419
01:14:32,960 --> 01:14:35,679
Speaker 2: the dice and think we're gonna have just keep crushing

1420
01:14:35,680 --> 01:14:38,160
Speaker 2: these primetime games because primetime games people have probably seen it.

1421
01:14:39,240 --> 01:14:42,599
Speaker 2: Dogs have been unreal on these primetime games the last

1422
01:14:42,600 --> 01:14:45,720
Speaker 2: couple of weeks. I think like it's and it's all

1423
01:14:45,800 --> 01:14:47,400
Speaker 2: outright wins too that I'm thinking of. I think the

1424
01:14:47,479 --> 01:14:49,320
Speaker 2: Chiefs are the only favorite I can think of. That one.

1425
01:14:50,439 --> 01:14:51,840
Speaker 2: Is that crazy? I think that's right.

1426
01:14:52,000 --> 01:14:56,160
Speaker 1: So yeah, it's uh yeah, the Giants.

1427
01:14:56,320 --> 01:14:59,479
Speaker 2: Now love Detroit, love Houston. This this could end up

1428
01:14:59,479 --> 01:15:00,840
Speaker 2: being eric On, which is crazy.

1429
01:15:01,479 --> 01:15:03,800
Speaker 1: Like, I'm looking at our lineup right now.

1430
01:15:04,400 --> 01:15:05,760
Speaker 2: I got a lot of games we like though.

1431
01:15:05,880 --> 01:15:08,760
Speaker 1: We liked Cleveland minus two and a half. That was

1432
01:15:08,840 --> 01:15:13,200
Speaker 1: Chad's choice, leaning New Orleans plus five and a half,

1433
01:15:13,280 --> 01:15:19,000
Speaker 1: So that'll be a conversation, Simon says, was Minnesota plus

1434
01:15:19,240 --> 01:15:22,080
Speaker 1: two and a half. Oh yeah, you know, we're going

1435
01:15:22,160 --> 01:15:25,800
Speaker 1: to talk about the Jets as underdogs. We're gonna We're

1436
01:15:25,920 --> 01:15:31,560
Speaker 1: definitely going to talk about Tennessee as an underdog. You

1437
01:15:31,840 --> 01:15:35,080
Speaker 1: love the Chargers minus one and a half. Oh, you know,

1438
01:15:35,720 --> 01:15:38,479
Speaker 1: I really want to bet Denver. I'm hoping to get

1439
01:15:38,600 --> 01:15:39,360
Speaker 1: the six and a half.

1440
01:15:39,800 --> 01:15:41,880
Speaker 2: It really sounds like I'm getting my haircut this week.

1441
01:15:42,520 --> 01:15:47,200
Speaker 1: Oh I know, right two. We're too confident truly of.

1442
01:15:47,200 --> 01:15:49,320
Speaker 2: These games, which last week I knew it was gonna

1443
01:15:49,320 --> 01:15:50,960
Speaker 2: go week because I was like disgusted with the games

1444
01:15:50,960 --> 01:15:51,200
Speaker 2: with us.

1445
01:15:51,240 --> 01:15:54,880
Speaker 1: Hated every game last week, Like I felt like, if

1446
01:15:54,920 --> 01:15:56,960
Speaker 1: I can get out with a winning week, I will

1447
01:15:57,040 --> 01:16:00,920
Speaker 1: be thrilled. I pressed, I pressed bet with every bet,

1448
01:16:00,960 --> 01:16:03,519
Speaker 1: I had zero confidence. I'm like, that's a loser. That's

1449
01:16:03,520 --> 01:16:03,960
Speaker 1: a loser.

1450
01:16:04,920 --> 01:16:05,240
Speaker 2: It's like.

1451
01:16:07,640 --> 01:16:10,160
Speaker 1: Giving away every bit of the money that we made

1452
01:16:10,240 --> 01:16:14,200
Speaker 1: this year. You know, Like we're going to pay attention

1453
01:16:14,240 --> 01:16:18,280
Speaker 1: to Atlanta, we love Detroit, we love Houston. Like we

1454
01:16:18,439 --> 01:16:21,759
Speaker 1: got seven or eight games that I feel good putting

1455
01:16:21,760 --> 01:16:25,120
Speaker 1: in the contest right now in a mix of favorites

1456
01:16:25,160 --> 01:16:27,440
Speaker 1: and underdogs.

1457
01:16:27,920 --> 01:16:28,360
Speaker 2: Can't wait.

1458
01:16:29,520 --> 01:16:32,479
Speaker 1: This has been Sharper Square part of the Volume podcast network.

1459
01:16:32,560 --> 01:16:35,880
Speaker 1: We will be back on Thursday with these games. I

1460
01:16:36,040 --> 01:16:39,120
Speaker 1: just discussed that we are zeroing in on We'll have

1461
01:16:39,240 --> 01:16:42,799
Speaker 1: our sharp versus square head to head battle our brass balls.

1462
01:16:43,479 --> 01:16:48,120
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