1 00:00:00,200 --> 00:00:03,480 Speaker 1: Now here's a highlight from Coast to Coast AM on 2 00:00:03,600 --> 00:00:06,720 Speaker 1: iHeart Radio and welcome back to Coast to Coast George 3 00:00:06,760 --> 00:00:09,560 Speaker 1: Norri with you. Psychic medium Karen Reespac with us, known 4 00:00:09,640 --> 00:00:12,520 Speaker 1: among clients as one of the most accurate psychics in 5 00:00:12,560 --> 00:00:16,439 Speaker 1: the field. Besides celebrities, Karen works with law enforcement to 6 00:00:16,520 --> 00:00:20,239 Speaker 1: help solve cold cases. Karen is also a skilled historian, 7 00:00:20,480 --> 00:00:24,599 Speaker 1: artist exorcism expert as well. She's last on with me 8 00:00:25,040 --> 00:00:29,520 Speaker 1: about a year. Yeah, a little more than a year ago. Karen, 9 00:00:29,600 --> 00:00:33,199 Speaker 1: welcome back. Oh, thank you for having me. I appreciate this. 10 00:00:33,440 --> 00:00:35,559 Speaker 1: Thank you so much. I remember when you were on. 11 00:00:35,640 --> 00:00:37,960 Speaker 1: It was during the peak of COVID. What a disaster. 12 00:00:38,120 --> 00:00:40,560 Speaker 1: You did a great job, but what a time period 13 00:00:40,680 --> 00:00:43,680 Speaker 1: for people. Huh oh it is. You know, it's still 14 00:00:43,760 --> 00:00:45,720 Speaker 1: kind of crazy, but I do think in a big 15 00:00:45,840 --> 00:00:47,680 Speaker 1: kind of picture thing. At least it gives us a 16 00:00:47,760 --> 00:00:50,360 Speaker 1: chance to reflect it really look at what's really important 17 00:00:50,400 --> 00:00:52,720 Speaker 1: in our life. You know what we should you look 18 00:00:52,760 --> 00:00:54,960 Speaker 1: at and what we should you know, stop wasting our 19 00:00:55,040 --> 00:00:57,920 Speaker 1: time with absolutely Karen, how did you get involved with 20 00:00:58,000 --> 00:01:01,360 Speaker 1: working with law enforcement? You know, I'll tell you. The 21 00:01:01,480 --> 00:01:06,080 Speaker 1: very first time client of mine, I actually head contacted me. 22 00:01:06,160 --> 00:01:08,960 Speaker 1: I've been on a radio show and they called up 23 00:01:09,000 --> 00:01:11,000 Speaker 1: and I started picking up the name of the perpetrators. 24 00:01:11,040 --> 00:01:13,840 Speaker 1: So that's how I first started to get involved into 25 00:01:14,760 --> 00:01:17,800 Speaker 1: doing cases. And then thereafter, you know, people started finding 26 00:01:17,800 --> 00:01:19,880 Speaker 1: out that I do it. I don't promote it a lot. 27 00:01:19,920 --> 00:01:22,520 Speaker 1: I do a lot of it behind the scenes, and 28 00:01:22,680 --> 00:01:25,000 Speaker 1: I have a lot of people in law enforcement throughout 29 00:01:25,000 --> 00:01:29,720 Speaker 1: the United States and actually Canada. So I originally started 30 00:01:29,760 --> 00:01:32,280 Speaker 1: with one case and then another case, and then it 31 00:01:32,400 --> 00:01:35,959 Speaker 1: just sort of, you know, started to sprinkle. So it's 32 00:01:36,000 --> 00:01:38,319 Speaker 1: kind of interesting. I think what you put out sometimes 33 00:01:38,319 --> 00:01:42,640 Speaker 1: you attract law of attraction. Yeah, yeah, And I find 34 00:01:42,680 --> 00:01:46,080 Speaker 1: it interesting, like I find the whole the way in 35 00:01:46,120 --> 00:01:49,240 Speaker 1: which people that perpetrators, you know, the way in which 36 00:01:49,280 --> 00:01:51,800 Speaker 1: they think and what you know, motivates them, you know, 37 00:01:51,880 --> 00:01:54,040 Speaker 1: to do what they do. I find it fascinating because 38 00:01:54,120 --> 00:01:59,000 Speaker 1: normal people don't think like that. Do You sometimes step 39 00:01:59,080 --> 00:02:03,440 Speaker 1: into the mind of the murderer or the perpetrator. I do. 40 00:02:03,560 --> 00:02:06,160 Speaker 1: And it's really kind of interesting because I could see 41 00:02:06,160 --> 00:02:08,120 Speaker 1: somebody on TV. I actually I'll give you a case 42 00:02:08,160 --> 00:02:10,760 Speaker 1: in point, Scott Peterson years ago, the first time he 43 00:02:10,840 --> 00:02:14,880 Speaker 1: appears on the station, and I remember saying, and you know, 44 00:02:14,919 --> 00:02:17,000 Speaker 1: he's bawling and whatever from my wife, and at that 45 00:02:17,080 --> 00:02:19,720 Speaker 1: point he wasn't really a suspect. I remember looking and 46 00:02:19,760 --> 00:02:22,680 Speaker 1: all of a sudden I snapped into his mind for 47 00:02:22,720 --> 00:02:26,720 Speaker 1: a minute as well as I ended up snapping into unfortunately, 48 00:02:27,400 --> 00:02:30,040 Speaker 1: his wife Lacy, and I remember going into the water 49 00:02:30,160 --> 00:02:33,000 Speaker 1: and I could feel the water, I could feel, you know, 50 00:02:33,040 --> 00:02:37,320 Speaker 1: feel calmness with her, and then I also ended up 51 00:02:37,360 --> 00:02:40,160 Speaker 1: going into his mind. And it's really weird when I've 52 00:02:40,160 --> 00:02:44,839 Speaker 1: experienced the mind of these murders, especially serial killers, which 53 00:02:44,880 --> 00:02:48,120 Speaker 1: is where I tend to work in their sense of 54 00:02:48,160 --> 00:02:51,080 Speaker 1: happiness and my sense of happiness, the way they perceive 55 00:02:51,160 --> 00:02:53,880 Speaker 1: that the feelings are totally different. You know, you can 56 00:02:53,919 --> 00:02:55,880 Speaker 1: be happy and I could be happy over the same thing, 57 00:02:56,040 --> 00:03:00,280 Speaker 1: but our actual feelings are totally different. So I will 58 00:03:00,320 --> 00:03:02,760 Speaker 1: go into the mind of a killer. I will sense, 59 00:03:02,800 --> 00:03:05,600 Speaker 1: you know, what's the impetus behind and what motivates them, 60 00:03:05,639 --> 00:03:07,480 Speaker 1: what kind of charge do they get, And then I'll 61 00:03:07,480 --> 00:03:12,880 Speaker 1: actually feel their sensations. I'll hear their mind chatter. I'll 62 00:03:12,960 --> 00:03:15,880 Speaker 1: hear and see in which they look at the strategies 63 00:03:15,919 --> 00:03:17,760 Speaker 1: behind what they're doing. You know, it's like the prey 64 00:03:17,880 --> 00:03:20,600 Speaker 1: victim kind of thing. So it's really kind of odd 65 00:03:20,600 --> 00:03:23,239 Speaker 1: because it doesn't relate any way in which I live 66 00:03:23,320 --> 00:03:25,680 Speaker 1: my life or the way in which I perceive my world. 67 00:03:26,040 --> 00:03:28,720 Speaker 1: But it's funny just seeing how there's that type of 68 00:03:28,760 --> 00:03:32,400 Speaker 1: personality out there. Have you ever recreated the crime where 69 00:03:32,400 --> 00:03:36,600 Speaker 1: you actually can feel and sense the murder or whatever happened? 70 00:03:37,640 --> 00:03:40,960 Speaker 1: I do that a lot and when Yeah, so it's 71 00:03:41,000 --> 00:03:46,000 Speaker 1: really it's strange. I've been both a victim and a perpetrator. 72 00:03:46,680 --> 00:03:49,080 Speaker 1: And what's really weird when I have, like, say a 73 00:03:49,160 --> 00:03:53,200 Speaker 1: murder suicide, or say the serial killer passes away and 74 00:03:53,400 --> 00:03:56,440 Speaker 1: I'll actually connect with that person on the other side 75 00:03:57,040 --> 00:04:00,320 Speaker 1: and really get a big view about it, and I'll 76 00:04:00,880 --> 00:04:03,400 Speaker 1: feel myself, say walking in a field, or I'll feel 77 00:04:03,400 --> 00:04:07,320 Speaker 1: myself you know, plunging like a knife or choking, or 78 00:04:07,600 --> 00:04:10,000 Speaker 1: if I'm the victim, I can feel the compression on 79 00:04:10,120 --> 00:04:13,480 Speaker 1: my neck as an example. And it's really kind of 80 00:04:13,480 --> 00:04:15,880 Speaker 1: interesting too. It's almost like I go out a body 81 00:04:15,920 --> 00:04:19,760 Speaker 1: for a minute and that I can go into their 82 00:04:19,839 --> 00:04:22,719 Speaker 1: body and I can sense the like the hormonal changes, 83 00:04:22,839 --> 00:04:26,839 Speaker 1: the energy, the chemistry. Um, it's just a real weird 84 00:04:27,160 --> 00:04:31,680 Speaker 1: kind of way of living life and experiencing that. Um, 85 00:04:31,920 --> 00:04:33,760 Speaker 1: the good news is at least it gives me a 86 00:04:33,839 --> 00:04:36,359 Speaker 1: chance to try to connect the dots, you know, for 87 00:04:36,480 --> 00:04:39,960 Speaker 1: family members, sure, as well as law enforcement helps to 88 00:04:40,400 --> 00:04:43,159 Speaker 1: you know, lead them into their you know, you know, 89 00:04:43,200 --> 00:04:45,720 Speaker 1: guide them into that area. But it's it's really weird though, 90 00:04:45,760 --> 00:04:48,440 Speaker 1: because you don't think of yourself. How do people do that? 91 00:04:49,440 --> 00:04:51,080 Speaker 1: You know, Like I don't even like to hurt a fly, 92 00:04:51,640 --> 00:04:54,200 Speaker 1: and yet these people are just they have like no 93 00:04:54,360 --> 00:04:58,680 Speaker 1: sense of accountability. Do you ever feel, Karen, get me 94 00:04:58,760 --> 00:05:02,320 Speaker 1: out of this body like or wherever you are. I 95 00:05:02,360 --> 00:05:04,000 Speaker 1: feel that about my own body daily. But that's a 96 00:05:04,000 --> 00:05:07,200 Speaker 1: whole other thing as a matter of fact, I do, 97 00:05:07,440 --> 00:05:09,480 Speaker 1: you know. But it's so weird. You know how they 98 00:05:09,520 --> 00:05:11,920 Speaker 1: say that the eyes are the windows to the soul. Yes, 99 00:05:12,480 --> 00:05:15,920 Speaker 1: I'll come face to face, and it's funny, even when 100 00:05:15,960 --> 00:05:18,320 Speaker 1: the killer is still in the living, it's like an 101 00:05:18,320 --> 00:05:20,960 Speaker 1: out of body experience. This person will go out of body, 102 00:05:21,040 --> 00:05:22,520 Speaker 1: or I'll go out of body, or we'll both meet 103 00:05:22,560 --> 00:05:25,719 Speaker 1: in this place like in a meditation or a sleep state, 104 00:05:26,160 --> 00:05:28,080 Speaker 1: and I'll go eye to eyes, you know, with this 105 00:05:28,240 --> 00:05:32,640 Speaker 1: particular killer, and you just see nothing but coldness, like 106 00:05:32,720 --> 00:05:36,800 Speaker 1: there's no soul, no spirit, there's nothing justice. Yeah, you know, 107 00:05:36,920 --> 00:05:39,360 Speaker 1: and you know people have met people, you know, you 108 00:05:39,480 --> 00:05:41,800 Speaker 1: probably meet maybe one or two people in your entire 109 00:05:41,880 --> 00:05:45,080 Speaker 1: life that he has that emptiness, you know, that blankness, 110 00:05:45,120 --> 00:05:50,360 Speaker 1: that lack of spiritual connection. And but it's really kind 111 00:05:50,400 --> 00:05:53,200 Speaker 1: of interesting. And then the vibrational energy that they give off, 112 00:05:53,200 --> 00:05:56,719 Speaker 1: because everybody and everything has a frequency, so you know, 113 00:05:56,800 --> 00:06:00,359 Speaker 1: you're feeling a whole different vibration. Can they send that 114 00:06:00,440 --> 00:06:04,200 Speaker 1: you're hovering around them? They can, but you know, it's 115 00:06:04,200 --> 00:06:07,040 Speaker 1: really weird. They're not really conscious about it, like if 116 00:06:07,080 --> 00:06:10,039 Speaker 1: they're still in the living. I've had connections on a 117 00:06:10,080 --> 00:06:13,719 Speaker 1: more psychic type of connection, and it's almost like they 118 00:06:13,800 --> 00:06:15,360 Speaker 1: might be sitting there and kind of like looking if 119 00:06:15,360 --> 00:06:18,120 Speaker 1: somebody touching my shoulder, but I don't see them, you know, 120 00:06:18,200 --> 00:06:20,400 Speaker 1: So you know that at some level they're sensing it, 121 00:06:20,440 --> 00:06:24,279 Speaker 1: but they can't really put two and two together. So yeah, 122 00:06:24,320 --> 00:06:29,840 Speaker 1: they definitely can sense it. There's a movie here somewhere, Karen, 123 00:06:29,920 --> 00:06:33,480 Speaker 1: there's a movie here. Yeah, you know, And I'll tell you, George, 124 00:06:33,480 --> 00:06:36,760 Speaker 1: it's so weird. I've had experiences. I always get very 125 00:06:36,800 --> 00:06:39,560 Speaker 1: strange cases and strange readings compared to most psychics that 126 00:06:39,600 --> 00:06:43,400 Speaker 1: are out there. But I've had instances, probably a handful 127 00:06:43,440 --> 00:06:46,000 Speaker 1: of times, where I've had, say, a woman come in 128 00:06:46,520 --> 00:06:49,160 Speaker 1: and then the perpetrator they killed her like a murder suicide. 129 00:06:49,600 --> 00:06:51,800 Speaker 1: Now I know, they're both in two different places, and 130 00:06:51,839 --> 00:06:55,400 Speaker 1: I might be reading, say this woman's brother and you know, 131 00:06:55,520 --> 00:06:58,000 Speaker 1: and people will say, well, why is this person there, 132 00:06:58,080 --> 00:07:01,760 Speaker 1: you know, my sister's husband, or whatever the situation may be. 133 00:07:02,560 --> 00:07:05,880 Speaker 1: And in that particular instance, either you have one or 134 00:07:05,880 --> 00:07:09,640 Speaker 1: two experiences, this person is still trying to stalk or 135 00:07:09,640 --> 00:07:12,280 Speaker 1: they're obsessed, and they're still in the afterlife. They're still 136 00:07:12,320 --> 00:07:15,600 Speaker 1: trying to make that connection and control that their prey 137 00:07:15,960 --> 00:07:18,640 Speaker 1: or whether it's somebody they don't know, or their wife 138 00:07:18,720 --> 00:07:21,880 Speaker 1: or whatever they obsession, they're still trying to you know, 139 00:07:22,000 --> 00:07:24,280 Speaker 1: live that on the other side. And by the way, 140 00:07:24,280 --> 00:07:27,440 Speaker 1: I will say, fortunately the victims are always well protected, 141 00:07:27,440 --> 00:07:31,120 Speaker 1: they're in a better landscape, so to speak. Or in 142 00:07:31,160 --> 00:07:34,240 Speaker 1: some instances, they're coming in to apologize to the family. 143 00:07:34,240 --> 00:07:36,520 Speaker 1: You know, I killed your sister. I owe you an apology. 144 00:07:37,040 --> 00:07:40,280 Speaker 1: But I still find of fascinating that there have been 145 00:07:40,320 --> 00:07:45,320 Speaker 1: instances where the perpetrator is still trying to, you know, 146 00:07:45,600 --> 00:07:48,480 Speaker 1: carry on these types of desires. You know, they get 147 00:07:48,480 --> 00:07:50,520 Speaker 1: a real high because it's a real energy. They need 148 00:07:50,560 --> 00:07:54,200 Speaker 1: a real strong emotional state, I guess, maybe to feel 149 00:07:54,240 --> 00:07:56,760 Speaker 1: alive in their own strange way, whether it's in the 150 00:07:56,800 --> 00:08:00,760 Speaker 1: physical realm or in the spiritual realm. What happens to 151 00:08:00,800 --> 00:08:05,920 Speaker 1: them in a reincarnated world where they were horrible in 152 00:08:06,280 --> 00:08:09,960 Speaker 1: a life and then they get reincarnated, they die, do 153 00:08:10,040 --> 00:08:12,080 Speaker 1: they stay the same way or do they get better? 154 00:08:13,920 --> 00:08:18,800 Speaker 1: It really depends. When you have real vile, evile, demonic people. 155 00:08:19,320 --> 00:08:23,760 Speaker 1: From my experience, I don't see them reincarnating reincarnating anytime soon. 156 00:08:23,840 --> 00:08:26,160 Speaker 1: Usually they're in like the pit of hell, and there's 157 00:08:26,200 --> 00:08:28,040 Speaker 1: so many different dimensions. You know. As a kid, I 158 00:08:28,080 --> 00:08:29,679 Speaker 1: used to go out of body to all different dimensions, 159 00:08:29,720 --> 00:08:31,200 Speaker 1: and I've seeing them in the types of things that 160 00:08:31,240 --> 00:08:33,760 Speaker 1: I've done. And thank God, I very much believe in God. 161 00:08:33,760 --> 00:08:38,120 Speaker 1: God created everything, so I was still protected. Although when 162 00:08:38,280 --> 00:08:40,840 Speaker 1: somebody does come into the earth plane and they have 163 00:08:40,880 --> 00:08:44,480 Speaker 1: to reincarnate, usually they have a very difficult experience. Either 164 00:08:45,320 --> 00:08:48,720 Speaker 1: they're trying to work out what they did in a 165 00:08:48,760 --> 00:08:51,160 Speaker 1: previous life. But I've got to tell you, typically speaking, 166 00:08:51,240 --> 00:08:53,199 Speaker 1: if you have the mind of a serial killer, it 167 00:08:53,360 --> 00:08:56,320 Speaker 1: usually never works out. If on the other hand, it's 168 00:08:57,640 --> 00:08:59,960 Speaker 1: not a serial killing, but maybe like a lover's quote 169 00:09:00,080 --> 00:09:02,640 Speaker 1: or quarrel, or you know, maybe a husband's obsessed or 170 00:09:02,640 --> 00:09:06,640 Speaker 1: a boyfriend's obsessed. You know, then they have a likelihood 171 00:09:06,679 --> 00:09:10,559 Speaker 1: of coming back and having to try to manage their emotions, 172 00:09:10,840 --> 00:09:13,360 Speaker 1: you know, try to live a better life, maybe sign 173 00:09:13,400 --> 00:09:15,840 Speaker 1: the Lord m And usually you'll have some guys that 174 00:09:15,880 --> 00:09:19,280 Speaker 1: will help. But you know, it really comes up to you, 175 00:09:19,480 --> 00:09:22,280 Speaker 1: and a lot of times you don't always reincarnate right away. 176 00:09:22,880 --> 00:09:25,959 Speaker 1: You know, they may be like a schoolhouse in between, 177 00:09:26,080 --> 00:09:29,800 Speaker 1: or they maybe there's this one um dimension and I've 178 00:09:29,800 --> 00:09:32,080 Speaker 1: been there quite a bit. It's not really hell help, 179 00:09:32,160 --> 00:09:33,840 Speaker 1: but the best way to describe it, it's like people 180 00:09:33,880 --> 00:09:38,000 Speaker 1: walking around, like with Dick Tracy, you know, raincoats and 181 00:09:38,000 --> 00:09:39,760 Speaker 1: they've got their collars stuff, and it's like in a 182 00:09:39,960 --> 00:09:43,160 Speaker 1: you know, urban setting, like a New York City. Nobody's talking. 183 00:09:43,280 --> 00:09:45,600 Speaker 1: It's maybe late at night. You see car lights, you 184 00:09:45,600 --> 00:09:47,760 Speaker 1: see a little bit of rain, and everybody's like looking 185 00:09:47,760 --> 00:09:50,000 Speaker 1: around and just thinking. It's like the place where you're 186 00:09:50,000 --> 00:09:53,920 Speaker 1: thinking is what the Catholics call purgatory. Um, I guess 187 00:09:53,960 --> 00:09:56,480 Speaker 1: it could be. I think the Catholics were somewhat correct 188 00:09:56,559 --> 00:09:59,360 Speaker 1: because there's so many different dimensions. I know that they 189 00:09:59,400 --> 00:10:03,720 Speaker 1: typically about having hell in purgatory, but there's multiple dimensions. 190 00:10:03,760 --> 00:10:06,960 Speaker 1: To some extent, it could be considered a form of purgatory. 191 00:10:07,360 --> 00:10:10,880 Speaker 1: Oh yeah, And it's even funnier too, because I've been 192 00:10:10,960 --> 00:10:16,000 Speaker 1: to the realms where you see, you know, especially serial killers, 193 00:10:16,120 --> 00:10:19,600 Speaker 1: where if you if you go there, it's just the 194 00:10:19,679 --> 00:10:24,440 Speaker 1: weirdest energy because you see serial killers around serial killers 195 00:10:24,440 --> 00:10:27,360 Speaker 1: and you can just sense they're hunting. They're still made 196 00:10:27,440 --> 00:10:31,920 Speaker 1: hunting mode. It's a very strange, um, you know form 197 00:10:32,440 --> 00:10:35,280 Speaker 1: well with psychic Go ahead, Karen, Oh, there's something I 198 00:10:35,280 --> 00:10:38,800 Speaker 1: don't think that people always um make the choice. They 199 00:10:38,800 --> 00:10:41,520 Speaker 1: know what they're doing is wrong, but it's um it's 200 00:10:41,559 --> 00:10:45,040 Speaker 1: an instinct that they can't control. Well, what psychic medium 201 00:10:45,120 --> 00:10:47,760 Speaker 1: Karen Reese. Her website is her name linked up at 202 00:10:47,800 --> 00:10:50,040 Speaker 1: Coast to coast dot com. She spells her first name 203 00:10:50,120 --> 00:10:53,880 Speaker 1: differently Ka ry and by the way, and we're going 204 00:10:53,920 --> 00:10:57,960 Speaker 1: to be talking about negative hauntings with her psychic artistry 205 00:10:58,200 --> 00:11:03,880 Speaker 1: to solve crimes, dream interpretations, near death experiences when we 206 00:11:03,960 --> 00:11:08,079 Speaker 1: take calls next hour, Karen, would you also interpret dreams? 207 00:11:08,080 --> 00:11:12,480 Speaker 1: Do you do that. Yeah, oh okay, great, okay, suports, 208 00:11:12,480 --> 00:11:16,160 Speaker 1: all kinds of things like that. Negative hauntings. What is 209 00:11:16,200 --> 00:11:19,040 Speaker 1: a negative haunting? What does that mean to you? Um? 210 00:11:19,280 --> 00:11:22,960 Speaker 1: For well, my word demonic. Usually you'll have some sort 211 00:11:23,000 --> 00:11:26,680 Speaker 1: of demonic entity that could be kept you know, obsessed, possessed, 212 00:11:27,880 --> 00:11:30,839 Speaker 1: and you know, usually it'll start off maybe somebody is 213 00:11:30,880 --> 00:11:32,960 Speaker 1: doing something that they shouldn't be doing. You know, maybe 214 00:11:32,960 --> 00:11:35,040 Speaker 1: they're doing like Luiji board when they should be doing 215 00:11:35,080 --> 00:11:37,079 Speaker 1: it and they're doing for fun and they get themselves 216 00:11:37,080 --> 00:11:39,920 Speaker 1: caught up into something. Or you know, you might have 217 00:11:39,960 --> 00:11:43,480 Speaker 1: some people that are using negative energies, witchcraft in a 218 00:11:43,520 --> 00:11:46,800 Speaker 1: negative way, the black arts, they're pulling something in or 219 00:11:46,840 --> 00:11:49,760 Speaker 1: maybe they go to a haunted house or whatever and 220 00:11:49,760 --> 00:11:53,320 Speaker 1: they bring something home. So you know, oftentimes I've had 221 00:11:53,360 --> 00:11:55,880 Speaker 1: people call and you know, I always tell people you 222 00:11:55,880 --> 00:11:58,040 Speaker 1: may have visitors, your house, mugs be haunted. You might 223 00:11:58,080 --> 00:12:00,199 Speaker 1: feel like, you know, the hair in the back of 224 00:12:00,280 --> 00:12:02,160 Speaker 1: your neck go up. It might be a little cold. 225 00:12:02,320 --> 00:12:07,000 Speaker 1: That doesn't necessarily mean it's evil to me. You know, 226 00:12:07,120 --> 00:12:10,640 Speaker 1: you'll know evil. You know, you may smell self your eggs. 227 00:12:10,679 --> 00:12:14,240 Speaker 1: You may have the room temperature in your house go down. 228 00:12:14,320 --> 00:12:16,760 Speaker 1: You might wake up with scratches, you might have a 229 00:12:16,880 --> 00:12:19,000 Speaker 1: very bad mood. You might start fighting with you know, 230 00:12:19,120 --> 00:12:22,440 Speaker 1: your loved ones. You know. So in those cases, I'll 231 00:12:22,480 --> 00:12:24,959 Speaker 1: come in and um, you know, move the energy on, 232 00:12:25,120 --> 00:12:28,439 Speaker 1: release whatever um you know being is there, and try 233 00:12:28,480 --> 00:12:30,080 Speaker 1: to figure out why they're they're how they got and 234 00:12:30,120 --> 00:12:32,480 Speaker 1: then you know, get them to move on. What about 235 00:12:32,559 --> 00:12:36,440 Speaker 1: shaging the place? You know, I really have to say 236 00:12:36,480 --> 00:12:39,240 Speaker 1: from my experience, I never buy into it. I really 237 00:12:39,320 --> 00:12:41,960 Speaker 1: like I never did either because it was too weird. 238 00:12:42,120 --> 00:12:45,319 Speaker 1: It's just yeah, it's like you think that these beans 239 00:12:45,320 --> 00:12:48,320 Speaker 1: are catatonic, like they're gonna just them dom follow out 240 00:12:48,360 --> 00:12:50,240 Speaker 1: the smoke, and I'm like, no, that doesn't happen. These 241 00:12:50,280 --> 00:12:53,480 Speaker 1: are you know, intelligent beings, whether it's a spirit person 242 00:12:53,559 --> 00:12:57,079 Speaker 1: who's evil or it's a demonic being. You know, saging 243 00:12:57,120 --> 00:13:01,280 Speaker 1: to me just is really pointless. You know, the conviction 244 00:13:01,320 --> 00:13:03,120 Speaker 1: of what you have in your heart of hearts. You know, 245 00:13:03,240 --> 00:13:05,280 Speaker 1: you own your place, you own it, you know this 246 00:13:05,400 --> 00:13:08,120 Speaker 1: is your or whatever you have the power within to 247 00:13:08,200 --> 00:13:10,520 Speaker 1: push that energy out. Although most people rely on a 248 00:13:10,600 --> 00:13:13,560 Speaker 1: rabbi or a minister or psychic to help facilitate that, 249 00:13:13,720 --> 00:13:15,640 Speaker 1: but you're really the one in charge. And saging is 250 00:13:15,640 --> 00:13:18,600 Speaker 1: just a waste, and what is it about the herb 251 00:13:18,720 --> 00:13:23,280 Speaker 1: that's supposed to chase them out? Honestly, George, my experience, 252 00:13:23,280 --> 00:13:26,040 Speaker 1: it has never worked. It doesn't work. I think it's 253 00:13:26,080 --> 00:13:29,480 Speaker 1: maybe you know, folklore or maybe the intention behind it. 254 00:13:29,520 --> 00:13:32,560 Speaker 1: So when you have people with intentions, because intentions are 255 00:13:33,200 --> 00:13:37,760 Speaker 1: energy that you know, it may help to push or 256 00:13:37,880 --> 00:13:40,760 Speaker 1: facilitate it. But I mean it's really smells up your 257 00:13:40,760 --> 00:13:43,920 Speaker 1: house you get out exactly, and I have allergy, so 258 00:13:43,960 --> 00:13:47,760 Speaker 1: it's never good, you know. So what is negative haunting? 259 00:13:48,640 --> 00:13:50,840 Speaker 1: A negative haunting is definitely when you have some sort 260 00:13:50,840 --> 00:13:53,600 Speaker 1: of thing that's just harassing you. And it can get 261 00:13:53,640 --> 00:13:57,840 Speaker 1: to different levels like a Poultergeist. Poulter Geist yea demon, 262 00:13:58,200 --> 00:14:01,640 Speaker 1: you know, somebody that's naughty on the other side, somebody 263 00:14:01,640 --> 00:14:05,640 Speaker 1: who wants to do harm, control you, possess you, you know, 264 00:14:06,040 --> 00:14:08,520 Speaker 1: and depending if you're at a weak state, maybe you're depressed, 265 00:14:08,520 --> 00:14:10,520 Speaker 1: maybe you're having a hard time. You know, if you 266 00:14:10,559 --> 00:14:12,520 Speaker 1: have negative energy, they're going to feed off of that. 267 00:14:13,040 --> 00:14:15,480 Speaker 1: So you know, you always want to try to keep 268 00:14:15,480 --> 00:14:18,120 Speaker 1: your mind positive or at least you know, say your prayers. 269 00:14:18,480 --> 00:14:20,240 Speaker 1: Well I was going to say, how can you if 270 00:14:20,560 --> 00:14:24,720 Speaker 1: stage doesn't work. What can you do to stave off 271 00:14:24,840 --> 00:14:28,360 Speaker 1: these negative hauntings. That's a good question. One of the 272 00:14:28,400 --> 00:14:32,800 Speaker 1: things holy water that actually works, really blessed holy water. 273 00:14:33,360 --> 00:14:35,640 Speaker 1: Yea holy water. Whether you go to your temple, your church, 274 00:14:35,680 --> 00:14:38,640 Speaker 1: you know, the intention is behind that. But the biggest 275 00:14:38,880 --> 00:14:43,040 Speaker 1: thing is knowing, you know, making making whatever being is 276 00:14:43,080 --> 00:14:45,640 Speaker 1: around you they understand that this is your place and 277 00:14:45,680 --> 00:14:48,640 Speaker 1: that they need to go, and being firm. I remember 278 00:14:49,960 --> 00:14:53,400 Speaker 1: just shortly before, unfortunately the tower's dropping, and I remember 279 00:14:53,440 --> 00:14:56,160 Speaker 1: seeing that years ago happening. I remember seeing a moss 280 00:14:56,160 --> 00:14:58,680 Speaker 1: man come right into my room. This thing was big. 281 00:14:58,720 --> 00:15:01,600 Speaker 1: I was meditating and I'll tell you it's very firm, 282 00:15:01,640 --> 00:15:03,680 Speaker 1: and I'm looking at you know what was about to happen, 283 00:15:03,680 --> 00:15:07,440 Speaker 1: which broke my heart, and this thing was very defined. 284 00:15:07,520 --> 00:15:09,600 Speaker 1: It did not want to leave, and I finally had 285 00:15:09,600 --> 00:15:11,680 Speaker 1: to just keep pushing it out. You know, in the 286 00:15:11,760 --> 00:15:13,240 Speaker 1: name of God, you need to leave, and you need 287 00:15:13,240 --> 00:15:16,840 Speaker 1: to leave now. You know God created everything good and bad, 288 00:15:16,920 --> 00:15:19,720 Speaker 1: so you know, pairing up and putting your you know, 289 00:15:19,840 --> 00:15:22,760 Speaker 1: your energy, aligning it with God and telling whatever in 290 00:15:22,800 --> 00:15:24,200 Speaker 1: your house that you need to go in the name 291 00:15:24,240 --> 00:15:28,120 Speaker 1: of God and holy water definitely will help to exercise it, 292 00:15:28,200 --> 00:15:30,640 Speaker 1: and but you've got to be firm about it, Karen, 293 00:15:30,720 --> 00:15:35,880 Speaker 1: Does a haunted house necessarily always mean that something somebody 294 00:15:36,040 --> 00:15:40,120 Speaker 1: died there? Nope, you know that's a really good question. 295 00:15:40,680 --> 00:15:42,920 Speaker 1: You can go to the gas station, pump gasket in 296 00:15:42,920 --> 00:15:44,720 Speaker 1: your car, this has actually happened to me, and have 297 00:15:44,800 --> 00:15:47,440 Speaker 1: a visitor follow you home or go home with you 298 00:15:47,640 --> 00:15:52,480 Speaker 1: in entity you're talking about. You're talking about some stalker guy. 299 00:15:53,000 --> 00:15:56,000 Speaker 1: That could happen too, So be careful exactly, you know, 300 00:15:57,400 --> 00:15:59,520 Speaker 1: not now what they're doing, at least in Saint Louis 301 00:15:59,520 --> 00:16:03,240 Speaker 1: where I am right now, you'll you'll pump gas. Some 302 00:16:03,320 --> 00:16:07,640 Speaker 1: people keep their fob, the fob key in the car. 303 00:16:08,120 --> 00:16:11,560 Speaker 1: People jump in the car, turn it on, and off 304 00:16:11,600 --> 00:16:14,800 Speaker 1: they go. They steal the car, pull they rip the 305 00:16:14,880 --> 00:16:18,760 Speaker 1: gas pump thing right out of the nozzle in the 306 00:16:19,360 --> 00:16:21,920 Speaker 1: gas hole and they just take off. You got to 307 00:16:21,920 --> 00:16:27,320 Speaker 1: be careful, jeez. It's there's evil everywhere, you know, it is, 308 00:16:27,440 --> 00:16:30,600 Speaker 1: you know, and the vibration is getting so you know, 309 00:16:30,840 --> 00:16:34,880 Speaker 1: dicy now. But but you were saying you don't necessarily 310 00:16:34,920 --> 00:16:38,560 Speaker 1: have a haunted house from a dead person, What then 311 00:16:38,680 --> 00:16:43,000 Speaker 1: makes it haunted? Energy? You know, energy can attach to 312 00:16:43,080 --> 00:16:45,800 Speaker 1: somebody energy can attach to you, and then you can 313 00:16:45,840 --> 00:16:49,160 Speaker 1: bring that energy home. You could have a package come 314 00:16:49,160 --> 00:16:51,440 Speaker 1: to you know, like a divot box, or you know, 315 00:16:51,440 --> 00:16:53,520 Speaker 1: you could just have something. You could pick up an antique, 316 00:16:53,520 --> 00:16:57,080 Speaker 1: bring this antique into your house, or go to say 317 00:16:57,320 --> 00:16:59,720 Speaker 1: um grage sales or whatever people do. I don't do that, 318 00:16:59,760 --> 00:17:02,360 Speaker 1: but you can bring something in and bring it home 319 00:17:02,360 --> 00:17:05,520 Speaker 1: with you. Your intention can be in a very negative 320 00:17:05,560 --> 00:17:08,320 Speaker 1: place and you can just happen to go somewhere where 321 00:17:08,359 --> 00:17:10,360 Speaker 1: there might be a negative being. That negative being can 322 00:17:10,400 --> 00:17:12,560 Speaker 1: follow you. What people don't realize. And I've done this 323 00:17:12,600 --> 00:17:14,520 Speaker 1: since I was a kid. You know, I could go 324 00:17:14,600 --> 00:17:16,480 Speaker 1: shopping at the grocery store. I remember when I was 325 00:17:16,560 --> 00:17:18,320 Speaker 1: like three or four, and I would see like maybe 326 00:17:18,320 --> 00:17:21,280 Speaker 1: a husband following, you know, a wife in a grocery store, 327 00:17:21,840 --> 00:17:24,000 Speaker 1: or you know, you're in a cemetery and you see 328 00:17:24,000 --> 00:17:26,439 Speaker 1: maybe one or two people there and then suddenly somebody 329 00:17:26,880 --> 00:17:28,840 Speaker 1: lanches on. Oh. You know, I would think I'll follow 330 00:17:28,880 --> 00:17:31,639 Speaker 1: that man home. So that's how you get the negative 331 00:17:31,720 --> 00:17:33,919 Speaker 1: energy and that can follow you home. You don't have 332 00:17:33,960 --> 00:17:36,159 Speaker 1: to have an old home in order to have a 333 00:17:36,200 --> 00:17:39,040 Speaker 1: haunted home. You know, it's all about your intention. Or 334 00:17:39,080 --> 00:17:40,840 Speaker 1: if you're just you know, well, what do you do 335 00:17:40,880 --> 00:17:43,800 Speaker 1: with the holy water to sprink a little round? I do. 336 00:17:43,880 --> 00:17:47,800 Speaker 1: I had all the doorways and the windows, so any 337 00:17:47,880 --> 00:17:51,600 Speaker 1: like outlet area about closets, you can do closets. There's 338 00:17:51,600 --> 00:17:54,919 Speaker 1: always a demon in the closet rain. Yeah, you know. 339 00:17:55,000 --> 00:17:58,240 Speaker 1: I've had instances myself, which is really funny. Anytime I 340 00:17:58,280 --> 00:18:01,760 Speaker 1: have something demonic to clean, whether it's like a commercial 341 00:18:01,760 --> 00:18:05,200 Speaker 1: building or maybe somebody's house or something like that, always 342 00:18:05,240 --> 00:18:08,560 Speaker 1: the night before I'll start getting harassed. And I've had 343 00:18:08,600 --> 00:18:12,080 Speaker 1: instances where the temperature my house is dropped to like 344 00:18:12,119 --> 00:18:15,359 Speaker 1: forty degrees, doors have gone slamming, light start to flicker. 345 00:18:16,359 --> 00:18:19,600 Speaker 1: Dream state. I have had instances where one time, I'm 346 00:18:19,640 --> 00:18:22,800 Speaker 1: i was pushed off like a cliff or something, and 347 00:18:22,840 --> 00:18:25,040 Speaker 1: I'm falling on my back and I'm looking to my left, 348 00:18:25,080 --> 00:18:27,360 Speaker 1: I'm looking to my right as I'm going deeper. I'm 349 00:18:27,359 --> 00:18:30,320 Speaker 1: seeing these you know, caves, and I'm seeing these demonic 350 00:18:30,400 --> 00:18:33,320 Speaker 1: beings and I'm laughing because i know I'm going down 351 00:18:33,359 --> 00:18:35,640 Speaker 1: to like the pit of hell. And then suddenly, I said, 352 00:18:35,640 --> 00:18:37,720 Speaker 1: I thrown myself with God's white light, and I swear 353 00:18:37,760 --> 00:18:39,159 Speaker 1: to God it felt like a spring and I'm like 354 00:18:39,320 --> 00:18:43,000 Speaker 1: back up looking over the steep canyon, and you're out 355 00:18:43,000 --> 00:18:45,879 Speaker 1: of there. Listen to more Coast to Coast AM every 356 00:18:45,920 --> 00:18:49,119 Speaker 1: weeknight at one am Eastern, and go to Coast to 357 00:18:49,119 --> 00:18:50,880 Speaker 1: Coast am dot com for more