1 00:00:00,560 --> 00:00:06,960 Speaker 1: Be Around the NFL Podcast, Never slide into the d M. 2 00:00:08,240 --> 00:00:11,200 Speaker 1: Welcome to another edition of the Around the NFL Podcast. 3 00:00:11,320 --> 00:00:13,119 Speaker 1: My name is Dan Hansis. I am joining in a 4 00:00:13,240 --> 00:00:16,760 Speaker 1: room filled with some heroes. Mark Sessler to my left, 5 00:00:17,040 --> 00:00:21,160 Speaker 1: Greg Rosenthal to my right. What is up? Boys? Name? 6 00:00:22,440 --> 00:00:27,840 Speaker 1: I well, this happened a lot, obviously during West's successful 7 00:00:28,440 --> 00:00:31,000 Speaker 1: war against cancer, but I can't remember it's been or 8 00:00:31,000 --> 00:00:34,959 Speaker 1: else since the the three amigos in the room we've 9 00:00:35,000 --> 00:00:38,560 Speaker 1: been together here, how is everybody? Is that what we're 10 00:00:38,560 --> 00:00:42,920 Speaker 1: calling ourselves? That's our name? Why not? It feels a 11 00:00:42,960 --> 00:00:46,400 Speaker 1: little um. It's definitely more sounding a little too excited 12 00:00:46,440 --> 00:00:49,440 Speaker 1: to Western. It's definitely like a popular dad movie, you know. 13 00:00:49,680 --> 00:00:51,839 Speaker 1: And we're a bunch of dads. I think it's a 14 00:00:51,840 --> 00:00:54,360 Speaker 1: little before our time. But speaking of being a bunch 15 00:00:54,400 --> 00:00:56,440 Speaker 1: of dads, and Ricky, you brought it up right before 16 00:00:56,440 --> 00:00:59,080 Speaker 1: we started. So the shield came back on Wednesday? Should 17 00:00:59,200 --> 00:01:00,800 Speaker 1: let you guys know that we are one or know? 18 00:01:00,920 --> 00:01:05,000 Speaker 1: At twenty three to twelve, Conquest over a dollar taco 19 00:01:06,000 --> 00:01:13,200 Speaker 1: played more like taco um and very sore right now 20 00:01:13,319 --> 00:01:16,000 Speaker 1: my body, so I am aging. I am almost thirty 21 00:01:16,080 --> 00:01:19,640 Speaker 1: nine now. Ricky, though makes me feel better because young 22 00:01:19,840 --> 00:01:23,000 Speaker 1: Erica Tampose also feeling some aches and paints from the opener. 23 00:01:23,200 --> 00:01:25,880 Speaker 1: I am yeah. It's also just muscles you haven't used 24 00:01:25,959 --> 00:01:28,240 Speaker 1: in a long, long, long time. Different muscles. So it's 25 00:01:28,280 --> 00:01:29,720 Speaker 1: like I was getting out in my car and I 26 00:01:29,880 --> 00:01:32,240 Speaker 1: lifted my leg to you know, swing out of my 27 00:01:32,280 --> 00:01:35,040 Speaker 1: car and like the top of my thighs. I was like, what, 28 00:01:36,160 --> 00:01:38,319 Speaker 1: I like how you describe that you swing your leg 29 00:01:38,360 --> 00:01:40,720 Speaker 1: out of like you have a prosthetic or something. Yeah, 30 00:01:40,760 --> 00:01:43,280 Speaker 1: I do. It's sprinting. You know, you're not doing a 31 00:01:43,280 --> 00:01:45,520 Speaker 1: lot of sprinting in regular life. And when you score 32 00:01:45,880 --> 00:01:47,640 Speaker 1: three runs, there's a lot of running around the base. 33 00:01:48,440 --> 00:01:51,200 Speaker 1: Is that your biggest romp of all time? We've had 34 00:01:51,280 --> 00:01:53,880 Speaker 1: games where we've put up runs like that, But it 35 00:01:53,920 --> 00:01:55,640 Speaker 1: was a nice way to start the season. A lot 36 00:01:55,720 --> 00:01:58,480 Speaker 1: of people. West played great. In fact, hit a home run, 37 00:01:59,160 --> 00:02:01,720 Speaker 1: uh and got on basis he always does. We We 38 00:02:01,760 --> 00:02:05,400 Speaker 1: really hit the ball well, fielded pretty well, and the 39 00:02:05,440 --> 00:02:10,080 Speaker 1: pitching by Brooke was always good as always. Um And 40 00:02:10,320 --> 00:02:12,240 Speaker 1: there's one issue and we're gonna get to it at 41 00:02:12,240 --> 00:02:14,320 Speaker 1: the end of the show, and it's out side of 42 00:02:14,360 --> 00:02:16,520 Speaker 1: Dollar Taco being in your league to begin with are 43 00:02:16,520 --> 00:02:18,000 Speaker 1: you in the Are you even in the same league 44 00:02:18,000 --> 00:02:19,160 Speaker 1: that you were in last time? We are in the 45 00:02:19,160 --> 00:02:21,280 Speaker 1: same league. Yes, it seems very suspect. They are a 46 00:02:21,280 --> 00:02:23,639 Speaker 1: new team and they have some hitters, but we took 47 00:02:23,680 --> 00:02:27,560 Speaker 1: care of business. We there is some unfortunate softball related 48 00:02:27,560 --> 00:02:29,120 Speaker 1: shield matters that we will hit at the end of 49 00:02:29,160 --> 00:02:31,440 Speaker 1: the show. I'll just leave it. They're not everything was 50 00:02:31,480 --> 00:02:34,919 Speaker 1: good on Wednesday night. Just like a little tease, let's 51 00:02:34,960 --> 00:02:37,760 Speaker 1: just say that in this situation, Mark Sessler is not 52 00:02:38,760 --> 00:02:42,359 Speaker 1: Ted Thompson like character falling asleep during meeting scenes of 53 00:02:43,040 --> 00:02:46,600 Speaker 1: Wide Awake and ready to pounce. Uh, it's coming up 54 00:02:46,639 --> 00:02:49,440 Speaker 1: on today's show. Yes, the mailback. We haven't opened it 55 00:02:49,560 --> 00:02:51,960 Speaker 1: up in a few weeks. So we reached out to 56 00:02:52,840 --> 00:02:56,520 Speaker 1: our wonderful, wonderful listeners of the podcast and you guys 57 00:02:56,560 --> 00:02:58,119 Speaker 1: hit us up with a bunch of questions. So we'll 58 00:02:58,639 --> 00:03:01,960 Speaker 1: answer some of those. But let's start with the news, 59 00:03:02,360 --> 00:03:05,480 Speaker 1: and yes, the big news of the week and what's 60 00:03:05,480 --> 00:03:08,880 Speaker 1: been a slow week in the NFL. Well, good job 61 00:03:08,960 --> 00:03:12,560 Speaker 1: by Bleacher Report and Tyler Donne because they picked the 62 00:03:12,639 --> 00:03:17,720 Speaker 1: perfect time to drop a bombshell about the Green Bay Packers. Well, 63 00:03:17,760 --> 00:03:19,360 Speaker 1: then I guess there's only one thing left to do. 64 00:03:21,520 --> 00:03:30,720 Speaker 1: What's that when the whole thing that's hip. That's that's 65 00:03:30,760 --> 00:03:32,960 Speaker 1: Tom Barranger from Major League. That's what you want in 66 00:03:32,960 --> 00:03:35,720 Speaker 1: a locker room. That's what the the shield has. We 67 00:03:35,760 --> 00:03:39,600 Speaker 1: have expert leadership at top, up up at the top. Um. 68 00:03:39,640 --> 00:03:43,280 Speaker 1: What about in the Packers locker room? Jake Taylor? His 69 00:03:43,320 --> 00:03:48,119 Speaker 1: name was in Major League? Great movie? UM. The Packers 70 00:03:48,720 --> 00:03:53,520 Speaker 1: Bleacher Report dropped a long, long, long study of what 71 00:03:53,640 --> 00:03:57,600 Speaker 1: went on behind the scenes The Downfall, uh if an 72 00:03:57,600 --> 00:03:59,920 Speaker 1: overall thesis of what was the thesis of this piece 73 00:04:00,240 --> 00:04:04,000 Speaker 1: by Tyler Dunn. The Downfall of the Packers related the 74 00:04:04,040 --> 00:04:08,600 Speaker 1: relationship between Mike McCarthy, Packers coach who got fired last December, 75 00:04:08,880 --> 00:04:12,920 Speaker 1: Aaron Rodgers, and the overall feeling of a huge missed opportunity. 76 00:04:12,920 --> 00:04:15,320 Speaker 1: What could have been a dynasty wasn't. Why was it 77 00:04:15,400 --> 00:04:18,200 Speaker 1: the case? And uh, Mark will start with you here. 78 00:04:18,480 --> 00:04:22,520 Speaker 1: There's the two principal characters here. Neither come off looking well. 79 00:04:23,000 --> 00:04:26,520 Speaker 1: McCarthy who comes off as a guy who got complacent 80 00:04:26,600 --> 00:04:29,680 Speaker 1: and lazy and misguided about why the team is successful. 81 00:04:30,360 --> 00:04:34,560 Speaker 1: Uh right down to missing meetings to get massages, which 82 00:04:34,560 --> 00:04:40,080 Speaker 1: he categorically denies, and then Aaron Rodgers, a superstar who 83 00:04:40,160 --> 00:04:42,040 Speaker 1: does not know how to get along with other people, 84 00:04:42,600 --> 00:04:48,440 Speaker 1: who is petulant, who is sensitive, and the Packers could 85 00:04:48,440 --> 00:04:50,720 Speaker 1: not be functional with these two people at the center 86 00:04:50,800 --> 00:04:53,360 Speaker 1: of the action. Yeah. I mean, this is one of 87 00:04:53,400 --> 00:04:57,640 Speaker 1: those articles where suddenly Tyler Dunn does all the work. 88 00:04:58,120 --> 00:05:01,960 Speaker 1: He uses every single b source, uh you know, avenue 89 00:05:01,960 --> 00:05:04,599 Speaker 1: that he has used to be he was in the past, 90 00:05:04,680 --> 00:05:07,320 Speaker 1: puts it out there and then you get everyone else 91 00:05:07,680 --> 00:05:10,119 Speaker 1: commenting on it and wanting to get their tweets about 92 00:05:10,160 --> 00:05:12,760 Speaker 1: his story liked and retweeted, because it's one of those 93 00:05:12,800 --> 00:05:14,520 Speaker 1: things that just takes off and everyone has a point 94 00:05:14,520 --> 00:05:17,640 Speaker 1: of view. It is a football story to me. The 95 00:05:17,680 --> 00:05:19,880 Speaker 1: skeleton of it is about football to sundegree, but it 96 00:05:20,160 --> 00:05:23,680 Speaker 1: it fits much more in like psychology today because it's 97 00:05:23,680 --> 00:05:26,000 Speaker 1: about football to one degree. But it really was the 98 00:05:26,040 --> 00:05:28,680 Speaker 1: study and it's said in the article it was well 99 00:05:28,720 --> 00:05:32,920 Speaker 1: stated and arranged marriage that went totally south basically, And 100 00:05:32,960 --> 00:05:36,000 Speaker 1: I came out of it's just fascinated to read how 101 00:05:36,040 --> 00:05:37,920 Speaker 1: honest some of the source has got with him about 102 00:05:37,960 --> 00:05:41,800 Speaker 1: what was going on behind the scenes. And I look 103 00:05:41,839 --> 00:05:43,719 Speaker 1: at Aaron Rodgers, I don't know if I look at 104 00:05:43,800 --> 00:05:45,600 Speaker 1: him differently because I think even on this show, we've 105 00:05:45,640 --> 00:05:48,359 Speaker 1: always recognized that Aaron Rodgers is a little bit of 106 00:05:48,360 --> 00:05:50,479 Speaker 1: an extra character, a little bit of a different dude. 107 00:05:50,839 --> 00:05:55,279 Speaker 1: And to me, this was it clarified some of the 108 00:05:55,279 --> 00:05:57,640 Speaker 1: stuff about Rogers that separates him a little bit from 109 00:05:57,640 --> 00:06:00,200 Speaker 1: a Tom Brady. I look at him as someone who 110 00:06:00,279 --> 00:06:03,080 Speaker 1: has been a chip on the shoulder type quarterback which 111 00:06:03,120 --> 00:06:05,080 Speaker 1: can be used in a well in a very good way, 112 00:06:05,080 --> 00:06:08,400 Speaker 1: and he has. But the mirror of that is I 113 00:06:08,440 --> 00:06:11,000 Speaker 1: feel there's a bee line of an element of him 114 00:06:11,040 --> 00:06:13,040 Speaker 1: that he takes a grudge and he holds onto it 115 00:06:13,200 --> 00:06:15,040 Speaker 1: for a decade plus. I mean, we heard that he 116 00:06:15,600 --> 00:06:19,000 Speaker 1: essentially had a grudge against Mike McCarthy from the minute 117 00:06:19,000 --> 00:06:22,120 Speaker 1: they were put together, because Mike McCarthy with the Niners 118 00:06:22,520 --> 00:06:25,719 Speaker 1: favored Alex Smith over Aaron Rodgers. We all know about 119 00:06:25,720 --> 00:06:29,200 Speaker 1: the draft day sit and wait for the Packers quarterback 120 00:06:29,320 --> 00:06:31,799 Speaker 1: and then it never really got a whole lot better. 121 00:06:31,839 --> 00:06:33,880 Speaker 1: And the thing that bothered me a little bit, and 122 00:06:33,920 --> 00:06:36,160 Speaker 1: there's so much to get into here, was the immense 123 00:06:36,200 --> 00:06:41,279 Speaker 1: amount of backbiting and backstabbing that happened from quarterback towards 124 00:06:41,320 --> 00:06:45,320 Speaker 1: coach in this and also the coaching, losing his essentially, 125 00:06:45,320 --> 00:06:47,919 Speaker 1: according to this article, his zeal to lead the team 126 00:06:47,960 --> 00:06:54,920 Speaker 1: down the stretch. I think Rogers never, based on this article, 127 00:06:55,040 --> 00:06:59,360 Speaker 1: fully bought into McCarthy's coaching, that he was ultimately helpful 128 00:07:00,040 --> 00:07:02,640 Speaker 1: person in his career, and that's a I thought he 129 00:07:02,680 --> 00:07:05,400 Speaker 1: was smarter than Michael. I mean, he probably is. I mean, 130 00:07:05,480 --> 00:07:08,240 Speaker 1: I I don't think many people would doubt that, um, 131 00:07:08,279 --> 00:07:13,480 Speaker 1: but the fact that that relationship was so toxic throughout 132 00:07:13,800 --> 00:07:17,320 Speaker 1: is is a shame. I mean, it's it's a bummer. 133 00:07:17,600 --> 00:07:20,400 Speaker 1: And my immediate thought reading this and they hit on 134 00:07:20,440 --> 00:07:25,040 Speaker 1: it towards the end, is like the Packers struggled here 135 00:07:25,040 --> 00:07:27,880 Speaker 1: because they don't have an owner. They're in a unique spot. Now. 136 00:07:28,040 --> 00:07:30,200 Speaker 1: Now there's a lot of NFL owners out there that 137 00:07:30,240 --> 00:07:33,840 Speaker 1: maybe wouldn't have, uh the ability or the gravitas or 138 00:07:33,880 --> 00:07:38,080 Speaker 1: the wherewithal to step in and fix this situation anyways, 139 00:07:38,400 --> 00:07:42,160 Speaker 1: but the Packers literally don't have an owner. They did. 140 00:07:42,240 --> 00:07:44,680 Speaker 1: But even but even during a lot of this, especially 141 00:07:44,680 --> 00:07:48,680 Speaker 1: early on, that president figure Mark Murphy was not as 142 00:07:48,680 --> 00:07:51,679 Speaker 1: powerful and not as upfront as he is now. That's 143 00:07:51,880 --> 00:07:56,040 Speaker 1: that position has taken some um transition over the years. 144 00:07:56,360 --> 00:07:58,360 Speaker 1: They did have a general manager, and so maybe it 145 00:07:58,440 --> 00:08:02,880 Speaker 1: was on Ted Thompson to step in because ultimately McCarthy, 146 00:08:02,920 --> 00:08:04,880 Speaker 1: I think, you know, some of the things that stuck 147 00:08:04,880 --> 00:08:06,840 Speaker 1: out to me was McCarthy had to understand that his 148 00:08:06,880 --> 00:08:09,680 Speaker 1: relationship with Rodgers was the most important thing, and he 149 00:08:09,800 --> 00:08:12,800 Speaker 1: never was able to address that, and ultimately Rodgers was 150 00:08:13,120 --> 00:08:15,400 Speaker 1: never going anywhere. He's one of the greatest quarterbacks ever. 151 00:08:15,640 --> 00:08:18,440 Speaker 1: So if this is the problem like that needed to 152 00:08:18,440 --> 00:08:21,080 Speaker 1: be addressed, quicker, either it's sitting them to two of 153 00:08:21,120 --> 00:08:24,560 Speaker 1: them down or it's getting rid of McCarthy quicker, I 154 00:08:24,600 --> 00:08:27,240 Speaker 1: mean it does. It does remind you about the NFC 155 00:08:27,360 --> 00:08:31,280 Speaker 1: Championship in that not only did he run the ball 156 00:08:31,360 --> 00:08:34,400 Speaker 1: three straight times before punting it back to the Seahawks 157 00:08:34,440 --> 00:08:37,880 Speaker 1: and not not cut Brandon Bostick, but he kicked field 158 00:08:37,880 --> 00:08:39,560 Speaker 1: goals on the one yard line two different times. And 159 00:08:39,800 --> 00:08:42,199 Speaker 1: it's just like a reminder of like, that's the type 160 00:08:42,200 --> 00:08:44,760 Speaker 1: of thing that drove Aaron Rodgers, I think crazy over 161 00:08:44,800 --> 00:08:46,920 Speaker 1: the years. I think there's a lot of different ways 162 00:08:46,960 --> 00:08:49,400 Speaker 1: to view how the Aaron Rodgers comes off, but there's 163 00:08:49,440 --> 00:08:53,360 Speaker 1: not as many different ways to view how McCarthy comes off. 164 00:08:53,440 --> 00:08:56,440 Speaker 1: It's crazy to think that you know, the Jets were 165 00:08:56,480 --> 00:08:59,960 Speaker 1: reportedly interested in Mike McCarthy. There was whispers that Cleveland 166 00:09:00,080 --> 00:09:01,680 Speaker 1: is that if you were a team right now saddle 167 00:09:01,720 --> 00:09:04,480 Speaker 1: with Mike McCarthy and this article came out as a fan, 168 00:09:04,520 --> 00:09:07,720 Speaker 1: you'd be concerned because he comes across as someone that 169 00:09:08,120 --> 00:09:09,600 Speaker 1: to your point, right, the fact that he was stuck 170 00:09:09,640 --> 00:09:13,520 Speaker 1: around for so long almost immediately outmoded as a strategist, 171 00:09:13,559 --> 00:09:15,520 Speaker 1: that the big artist, the biggest. It seemed like there 172 00:09:15,520 --> 00:09:17,719 Speaker 1: were factions in this article the way there are when 173 00:09:17,720 --> 00:09:20,160 Speaker 1: these things come out, where there were certain Mike McCarthy 174 00:09:20,200 --> 00:09:23,360 Speaker 1: people who had issues with Aaron Rodgers the person, and 175 00:09:23,360 --> 00:09:25,680 Speaker 1: then there were others who felt like that it said 176 00:09:25,720 --> 00:09:28,960 Speaker 1: that people sympathize with Aaron Rodgers for being stuck in 177 00:09:28,960 --> 00:09:31,760 Speaker 1: an offense that never evolved. People from the league. I've 178 00:09:31,800 --> 00:09:34,480 Speaker 1: been talking about that for years, that they're the most predictable, 179 00:09:34,720 --> 00:09:37,280 Speaker 1: kind of basic and it's not here, not of to 180 00:09:37,320 --> 00:09:39,640 Speaker 1: be because he's been calling them out for not adjusting 181 00:09:39,760 --> 00:09:41,640 Speaker 1: type offense. So that you can watch that and you 182 00:09:41,679 --> 00:09:43,520 Speaker 1: can see that. Then again, you also, you know, the 183 00:09:43,520 --> 00:09:45,839 Speaker 1: stuff about Rodgers doesn't mean it's not true. Like you've heard, 184 00:09:45,880 --> 00:09:47,679 Speaker 1: You've heard a lot of stories behind the scenes, like Hill, 185 00:09:48,120 --> 00:09:50,440 Speaker 1: someone will write something early on in their days as 186 00:09:50,480 --> 00:09:53,160 Speaker 1: a beat writer of the Packers that Rodgers didn't like 187 00:09:53,200 --> 00:09:54,640 Speaker 1: and he won't speak to them for the rest of 188 00:09:54,679 --> 00:09:57,400 Speaker 1: their time there in Green Bay. So like that's that's 189 00:09:57,440 --> 00:09:59,480 Speaker 1: part of it. And I think a voice like James Jones, 190 00:09:59,480 --> 00:10:02,360 Speaker 1: who works for our network and immediately kind of came 191 00:10:02,360 --> 00:10:04,320 Speaker 1: out and was like, that's not the Aaron Rodgers I know, 192 00:10:04,679 --> 00:10:08,000 Speaker 1: Like the one I know like a hundred percent is 193 00:10:08,080 --> 00:10:10,520 Speaker 1: a leader that we followed that like, we we like 194 00:10:10,640 --> 00:10:12,760 Speaker 1: that relationship. It does not seem like Aaron Rodgers is 195 00:10:12,840 --> 00:10:15,120 Speaker 1: necessarily a guy that's going to get everyone on the 196 00:10:15,160 --> 00:10:17,000 Speaker 1: same page. But I think if he respects you, there's 197 00:10:17,000 --> 00:10:19,600 Speaker 1: a lot of people that that have no problem with Aaron. Well. 198 00:10:19,640 --> 00:10:21,720 Speaker 1: The strongest voice in this I thought was Ryan Grant, 199 00:10:22,360 --> 00:10:25,000 Speaker 1: and he came out hard on Rogers, but Ryan Grant 200 00:10:25,000 --> 00:10:27,280 Speaker 1: has not been with the team for half a decade plus. 201 00:10:27,400 --> 00:10:30,839 Speaker 1: I think with why articles like this are so great 202 00:10:31,280 --> 00:10:34,720 Speaker 1: is this is all stuff that's been kind of under 203 00:10:34,760 --> 00:10:36,600 Speaker 1: the radar and people that were close at all new 204 00:10:36,600 --> 00:10:38,720 Speaker 1: And I think that's why Mike McCarthy, for instance, the 205 00:10:38,800 --> 00:10:42,360 Speaker 1: Jets interviewed him but never gave him any serious thought. 206 00:10:42,480 --> 00:10:44,960 Speaker 1: From what I heard behind the scenes, nobody else really 207 00:10:44,960 --> 00:10:47,240 Speaker 1: took interest in him, because this was all stuff that 208 00:10:47,280 --> 00:10:50,920 Speaker 1: was out there, like within football circles that McCarthy had 209 00:10:50,960 --> 00:10:53,040 Speaker 1: lost his zeal, that he kind of had lost the 210 00:10:53,080 --> 00:10:57,520 Speaker 1: respect of Aaron Rodgers and Rogers. To me is the 211 00:10:57,520 --> 00:11:00,360 Speaker 1: thing that I took the most interest in to this, 212 00:11:00,520 --> 00:11:04,760 Speaker 1: and quite frankly, was disappointing to read a lot of 213 00:11:04,200 --> 00:11:08,520 Speaker 1: the things about his inability to connect with the young players, 214 00:11:08,559 --> 00:11:12,079 Speaker 1: how how hard he rode um young players as young 215 00:11:12,120 --> 00:11:16,280 Speaker 1: wide receivers, the the way people were scratching their heads, like, 216 00:11:16,320 --> 00:11:18,280 Speaker 1: how can he just cut people out of his life 217 00:11:18,320 --> 00:11:20,960 Speaker 1: and not ever think about there's no kind of going 218 00:11:21,000 --> 00:11:23,400 Speaker 1: back once you do that. He he has no relationship 219 00:11:23,440 --> 00:11:26,960 Speaker 1: with his own family, Mike McCarthy, and it's a obviously 220 00:11:27,000 --> 00:11:29,960 Speaker 1: not a great relationship that they ever had going back to. 221 00:11:30,120 --> 00:11:33,240 Speaker 1: For some reason, Rogers put it on McCarthy that the Niners, 222 00:11:33,600 --> 00:11:36,520 Speaker 1: you know, picked Alex Smith ahead of him, that Mike 223 00:11:36,559 --> 00:11:39,120 Speaker 1: McCarthy preferred Alex like that he I mean, listen, that 224 00:11:39,160 --> 00:11:41,560 Speaker 1: was just a football decision, but he kept that with him. 225 00:11:41,679 --> 00:11:44,200 Speaker 1: Mike McCarthy tried to have a dinner and and tell 226 00:11:44,400 --> 00:11:46,440 Speaker 1: Aaron like, maybe you know, reach out to your mom. 227 00:11:46,480 --> 00:11:48,840 Speaker 1: And Aaron Rodgers was not having any of it. And 228 00:11:48,880 --> 00:11:50,600 Speaker 1: there is two sides of the story. And it's good 229 00:11:50,640 --> 00:11:53,040 Speaker 1: to hear guys like James Jones who say the other 230 00:11:53,320 --> 00:11:55,000 Speaker 1: the other side, that this is he was a leader. 231 00:11:55,120 --> 00:11:56,760 Speaker 1: But you hear a lot here. There's a lot of 232 00:11:56,760 --> 00:11:59,360 Speaker 1: smoke here that I buy into that Rogers is a 233 00:11:59,360 --> 00:12:02,240 Speaker 1: major problem, that why they haven't won the Super Bowl 234 00:12:02,480 --> 00:12:05,040 Speaker 1: since two thousand and ten. And I do worry about 235 00:12:05,080 --> 00:12:07,560 Speaker 1: and we and we briefly spoke. We did an interview 236 00:12:07,559 --> 00:12:10,080 Speaker 1: with Matt la Floor at the owner's meetings. He was 237 00:12:10,120 --> 00:12:13,400 Speaker 1: not consulted Rogers before Flora was hired. I don't know 238 00:12:13,440 --> 00:12:15,599 Speaker 1: if that was a smart move honestly internally with that 239 00:12:15,760 --> 00:12:18,520 Speaker 1: organization the way what they know about Rogers and I 240 00:12:18,800 --> 00:12:21,880 Speaker 1: And he's around the same age as Aaron Rodgers. If 241 00:12:21,880 --> 00:12:24,199 Speaker 1: Aaron Rodgers thought he was smarter than Mike McCarthy and 242 00:12:24,240 --> 00:12:26,720 Speaker 1: elder who had been in a legal long time, I 243 00:12:26,760 --> 00:12:28,600 Speaker 1: wonder how that relationship is going to go with a 244 00:12:28,679 --> 00:12:32,080 Speaker 1: young young guy of first year coach. It's a dicey situation. Well, 245 00:12:32,080 --> 00:12:34,880 Speaker 1: they said I found it interesting It's like Rogers is 246 00:12:34,880 --> 00:12:37,240 Speaker 1: the type that wants to be challenged on some level 247 00:12:37,280 --> 00:12:39,640 Speaker 1: that felt they felt you know, the part where Mike 248 00:12:39,720 --> 00:12:42,800 Speaker 1: McCarthy felt threatened by Alex van Pelt, who had a relationship, 249 00:12:42,880 --> 00:12:44,840 Speaker 1: you know, quarterbacks coach with a lot of people thought 250 00:12:44,920 --> 00:12:47,040 Speaker 1: highly of. You could sort of see that even in 251 00:12:47,080 --> 00:12:49,600 Speaker 1: the way that McCarthy talked and carried himself, that he 252 00:12:49,640 --> 00:12:52,560 Speaker 1: got his own ego involved there. And I think Rodgers 253 00:12:52,640 --> 00:12:54,839 Speaker 1: is gonna want to coach that he feels like he's 254 00:12:54,840 --> 00:12:57,160 Speaker 1: adding to him and he probably never felt that with McCarthy. 255 00:12:57,320 --> 00:13:01,280 Speaker 1: And and whether that's right or wrong, Like I don't know, 256 00:13:01,360 --> 00:13:03,320 Speaker 1: the organization to me would have had to step up. 257 00:13:03,320 --> 00:13:05,360 Speaker 1: But you do wonder because some of these rookies are 258 00:13:05,360 --> 00:13:07,080 Speaker 1: talking about they're still on the team, like the part 259 00:13:07,120 --> 00:13:11,800 Speaker 1: about Equinminius st Brown and Marcus Valda scantling getting frozen 260 00:13:11,800 --> 00:13:15,440 Speaker 1: out for you know, or struggling with not knowing what 261 00:13:15,559 --> 00:13:18,280 Speaker 1: to do because should I listen to Rodgers and run 262 00:13:18,480 --> 00:13:20,520 Speaker 1: the route that he wants me to run hot in 263 00:13:20,520 --> 00:13:22,959 Speaker 1: the middle, or should I listen to the coach and 264 00:13:24,000 --> 00:13:26,680 Speaker 1: should I cover for the And yes, that's terrible, terrible 265 00:13:26,760 --> 00:13:28,920 Speaker 1: look for Aaron Rodgers that he would put these young 266 00:13:28,960 --> 00:13:31,880 Speaker 1: guys in that position where you can't win either way. 267 00:13:31,960 --> 00:13:33,760 Speaker 1: And if you're a young guy trying to establish yourself 268 00:13:33,800 --> 00:13:35,840 Speaker 1: in the league, like you gotta know better, you gotta 269 00:13:35,840 --> 00:13:38,120 Speaker 1: be a better leader than that. That said, like you know, 270 00:13:38,720 --> 00:13:42,120 Speaker 1: Tom Brady is certainly run off like a million wide 271 00:13:42,120 --> 00:13:44,200 Speaker 1: receivers over the league, you know, over the years on 272 00:13:44,280 --> 00:13:46,439 Speaker 1: New England that couldn't get up to speed, but including 273 00:13:46,440 --> 00:13:48,640 Speaker 1: a lot of young ones. I'm not I'm not saying, 274 00:13:48,679 --> 00:13:51,840 Speaker 1: I'm just saying that's part of it's tricky. You gotta 275 00:13:51,960 --> 00:13:54,240 Speaker 1: you gotta find the right line. But like that's part 276 00:13:54,280 --> 00:13:56,120 Speaker 1: of being the quarterback on some left. I think the 277 00:13:56,160 --> 00:13:58,920 Speaker 1: difference with the young receivers and Green Bay being caught 278 00:13:58,920 --> 00:14:02,079 Speaker 1: in the middle of coaches demands and the idea that 279 00:14:02,120 --> 00:14:04,280 Speaker 1: they talked about Daron Rodgers when you're out, you're out 280 00:14:04,320 --> 00:14:06,800 Speaker 1: with him, and that means on the field, potentially, that 281 00:14:06,880 --> 00:14:10,400 Speaker 1: means off the field, that's pure dysfunction and it's kind 282 00:14:10,400 --> 00:14:14,000 Speaker 1: of just beguiling. This relationship lasted his life, That's what 283 00:14:14,040 --> 00:14:16,160 Speaker 1: I mean. That's why the ownership thing was the first 284 00:14:16,160 --> 00:14:18,600 Speaker 1: thing that came to my mind was like, Wow, this 285 00:14:18,679 --> 00:14:21,600 Speaker 1: went on for way too long, and you can put 286 00:14:21,640 --> 00:14:24,680 Speaker 1: some fault on Rogers or not, you know, obviously yes, 287 00:14:24,760 --> 00:14:27,800 Speaker 1: some of it, but either way, like someone had to 288 00:14:27,840 --> 00:14:29,840 Speaker 1: be stepping he was changing a third of the plays 289 00:14:29,880 --> 00:14:35,480 Speaker 1: by last year desert the brutal. If McCarthy read this, 290 00:14:35,480 --> 00:14:37,280 Speaker 1: this is one where it's like they say, don't read 291 00:14:37,280 --> 00:14:40,280 Speaker 1: It's like, I hope Mike McCarthy didn't read this because 292 00:14:40,360 --> 00:14:43,360 Speaker 1: it would be brutal, like like his low football i 293 00:14:43,520 --> 00:14:47,040 Speaker 1: Q was was questioned a few times. Uh, and I 294 00:14:47,080 --> 00:14:49,440 Speaker 1: don't know if anyone is like standing on the table 295 00:14:49,480 --> 00:14:52,760 Speaker 1: and backing him. And the part where they're like Rogers 296 00:14:52,800 --> 00:14:55,800 Speaker 1: has kind of turned into far which is like the 297 00:14:55,840 --> 00:14:58,680 Speaker 1: thing he didn't want to be is really, you know, 298 00:14:58,840 --> 00:15:01,160 Speaker 1: kind of fascinating. And I thought the kicker in this 299 00:15:01,280 --> 00:15:03,200 Speaker 1: article was near the end, and you kept thinking it 300 00:15:03,240 --> 00:15:04,320 Speaker 1: was going to come to the end, and then there 301 00:15:04,400 --> 00:15:07,360 Speaker 1: was another chunky, large anecdote coming up. You But when 302 00:15:07,400 --> 00:15:11,240 Speaker 1: Mark Murphy basically pulled Aaron Rodgers aside, when Matt Lafleur 303 00:15:11,320 --> 00:15:14,880 Speaker 1: was hired without Aaron Rodgers, consultants do not get in 304 00:15:14,920 --> 00:15:18,320 Speaker 1: the way, you do not be the problem. That was 305 00:15:18,440 --> 00:15:24,040 Speaker 1: kind of the most breathtaking moment by the way, I 306 00:15:24,040 --> 00:15:27,760 Speaker 1: mean that he that is such a concern, like because 307 00:15:28,160 --> 00:15:30,720 Speaker 1: Rogers has the power to blow everything up, but he's 308 00:15:30,760 --> 00:15:34,440 Speaker 1: so powerful in that organization, perhaps too powerful, and I wonder, 309 00:15:34,720 --> 00:15:36,680 Speaker 1: I guess, but I would I would say to that 310 00:15:36,720 --> 00:15:39,320 Speaker 1: Mark Murphy, you should have said that you go or 311 00:15:39,400 --> 00:15:42,480 Speaker 1: had had I don't know. It's a tricky like literally 312 00:15:42,520 --> 00:15:44,600 Speaker 1: back in the day, it was very confusing who was 313 00:15:44,680 --> 00:15:46,480 Speaker 1: even running in the pack And eventually it's sort of 314 00:15:46,520 --> 00:15:48,320 Speaker 1: turned into like, I don't know that. I just feel 315 00:15:48,360 --> 00:15:50,720 Speaker 1: like Ted Thompson, who is you know, deep out of 316 00:15:50,720 --> 00:15:52,880 Speaker 1: the picture at this point. He did not come across 317 00:15:52,920 --> 00:15:55,160 Speaker 1: well at all because he's obviously on the attached and 318 00:15:55,440 --> 00:15:58,200 Speaker 1: physically unwell. Yeah, and like the modern day fan is like, 319 00:15:58,240 --> 00:16:00,400 Speaker 1: please be active in free agency, and I think there's 320 00:16:00,520 --> 00:16:03,680 Speaker 1: voices within the organization saying, please build a team around 321 00:16:03,720 --> 00:16:05,400 Speaker 1: what should be a team going to the super Bowl, 322 00:16:05,400 --> 00:16:07,720 Speaker 1: please add add parts and they talk about him falling 323 00:16:07,720 --> 00:16:09,560 Speaker 1: asleep and means I think the thing is with the NFL. 324 00:16:10,040 --> 00:16:12,280 Speaker 1: The more you hear the stuff that we we don't 325 00:16:12,280 --> 00:16:14,320 Speaker 1: hear as much as certain people obviously, but when you 326 00:16:14,360 --> 00:16:16,640 Speaker 1: hear little anecdotes that you can never go to air 327 00:16:16,680 --> 00:16:18,960 Speaker 1: with some of them are stunning, and you're just like, 328 00:16:18,960 --> 00:16:21,840 Speaker 1: wait a minute, this is the most human business because 329 00:16:21,840 --> 00:16:25,120 Speaker 1: some of the f ups behind the scenes and the 330 00:16:25,160 --> 00:16:28,120 Speaker 1: in fighting and the lack of responsibility and accountability, and 331 00:16:28,120 --> 00:16:30,560 Speaker 1: it came forth in this article for multiple people and 332 00:16:30,600 --> 00:16:34,080 Speaker 1: in the massage you know story, I even he put 333 00:16:34,160 --> 00:16:37,080 Speaker 1: you know, the writer Tyler Dunn cast some doubt about that, 334 00:16:37,320 --> 00:16:39,280 Speaker 1: but I think he made a good point putting out 335 00:16:39,320 --> 00:16:41,000 Speaker 1: like the point was that the team, that there were 336 00:16:41,120 --> 00:16:43,840 Speaker 1: large sections of the team that believed that whether it 337 00:16:43,880 --> 00:16:45,840 Speaker 1: was whether it was true or not, whether that happened 338 00:16:45,840 --> 00:16:47,760 Speaker 1: one time that he was getting the massage, the fact 339 00:16:47,760 --> 00:16:50,360 Speaker 1: that large sections of the team believe that, I don't know, 340 00:16:50,480 --> 00:16:53,640 Speaker 1: I'm still I guess I'm an Aaron Rodgers you know 341 00:16:53,760 --> 00:16:57,760 Speaker 1: fan ultimately, And yes, this is disappointing, but I do 342 00:16:57,960 --> 00:17:00,680 Speaker 1: just wish there was like another world where he had 343 00:17:00,680 --> 00:17:04,679 Speaker 1: a strong offensive coach and mind that he respected, that 344 00:17:04,760 --> 00:17:07,480 Speaker 1: he played with previously, and that Matt Lafleur is that guy. 345 00:17:07,520 --> 00:17:10,080 Speaker 1: Because we'll have to see if Matt Lafer is that guy. 346 00:17:10,160 --> 00:17:12,280 Speaker 1: Packers fans have had it really easy. I've always killed 347 00:17:12,320 --> 00:17:14,480 Speaker 1: him for that that you've gone from far to Rogers. 348 00:17:14,480 --> 00:17:17,199 Speaker 1: It's been one thing. But if you read this, I 349 00:17:17,240 --> 00:17:19,480 Speaker 1: have feel for Packers fans because it really feels like 350 00:17:19,520 --> 00:17:21,800 Speaker 1: two or three Super Bowl rings were lost in the 351 00:17:21,800 --> 00:17:23,640 Speaker 1: mix here. And it's kind of like when Aaron Rodgers 352 00:17:23,760 --> 00:17:27,960 Speaker 1: is telling Greg Jennings after speaking to Carlos Rogers about 353 00:17:28,040 --> 00:17:29,879 Speaker 1: you know, this is probably my contract year and and 354 00:17:29,880 --> 00:17:32,280 Speaker 1: and Aaron Rodgers simply saying, go get out of here. 355 00:17:32,280 --> 00:17:34,120 Speaker 1: You're not coming back, and like you're done with him. 356 00:17:34,119 --> 00:17:36,439 Speaker 1: When you're done with him, you're done. That's there's a 357 00:17:36,440 --> 00:17:38,879 Speaker 1: good side to that, maybe, but there's definitely a negative 358 00:17:38,880 --> 00:17:41,040 Speaker 1: when he's your team leader in the in the sun 359 00:17:41,119 --> 00:17:45,000 Speaker 1: that everyone orbits around. My final thoughts spinning forward is 360 00:17:45,119 --> 00:17:48,560 Speaker 1: I just wonder, based on what you read in that 361 00:17:48,680 --> 00:17:52,200 Speaker 1: article and the general feeling around Aaron Rodgers circa two 362 00:17:52,200 --> 00:17:55,560 Speaker 1: thousand nineteen, he says he wants to be challenged. He 363 00:17:55,600 --> 00:17:58,440 Speaker 1: says he needs somebody or or that that's how he 364 00:17:58,480 --> 00:18:00,760 Speaker 1: would work best, how this team would work best. I'm 365 00:18:00,800 --> 00:18:04,320 Speaker 1: not convinced he actually does want to be challenging somebody. 366 00:18:04,560 --> 00:18:06,560 Speaker 1: I get the feel that Aaron Rodgers might just be 367 00:18:06,600 --> 00:18:09,200 Speaker 1: a guy says this is my world, this is my team, 368 00:18:09,240 --> 00:18:11,320 Speaker 1: and he's gonna have a hard time respecting anyone. It 369 00:18:11,359 --> 00:18:14,800 Speaker 1: sounds like some coaches over the years. See that's the 370 00:18:14,840 --> 00:18:17,160 Speaker 1: thing though, Like I it sounds like some coaches over 371 00:18:17,160 --> 00:18:19,280 Speaker 1: the years. Half I really believe that he would because 372 00:18:19,440 --> 00:18:21,800 Speaker 1: because I think he wants to be great, but that 373 00:18:21,840 --> 00:18:25,160 Speaker 1: he would need a great coach, and just like your 374 00:18:25,400 --> 00:18:29,520 Speaker 1: run of the mill, average NFL coach, that's maybe that's 375 00:18:29,520 --> 00:18:31,600 Speaker 1: not going to be enough, you know, to be able 376 00:18:31,640 --> 00:18:34,639 Speaker 1: to deal with him. Now that this right, well, I 377 00:18:34,640 --> 00:18:36,719 Speaker 1: would imagine someone is brief to be I mean, it 378 00:18:36,720 --> 00:18:38,359 Speaker 1: seems to be plugged in. I feel like he might 379 00:18:38,400 --> 00:18:40,000 Speaker 1: have read it ten times by now. But I think 380 00:18:40,000 --> 00:18:42,159 Speaker 1: it's safe to say that Dunn family is off. Like 381 00:18:42,240 --> 00:18:45,920 Speaker 1: his Christmas card distribution list's not getting a lot of 382 00:18:45,960 --> 00:18:48,479 Speaker 1: like one on one time with Rogers? Do we finally 383 00:18:48,520 --> 00:18:52,560 Speaker 1: trust my green bedar that was buzzing for large sections 384 00:18:52,560 --> 00:18:54,680 Speaker 1: of last season in the season previous, well you never 385 00:18:54,720 --> 00:18:57,479 Speaker 1: really said what what had nothing to do with this? 386 00:18:57,560 --> 00:18:59,440 Speaker 1: You wouldn't like that they were in primetime a lot. 387 00:18:59,840 --> 00:19:03,760 Speaker 1: I was something about the whole Green Bay Packers experience. Obviously, 388 00:19:03,800 --> 00:19:05,320 Speaker 1: are you saying it has not been in my radar? 389 00:19:06,560 --> 00:19:09,000 Speaker 1: And when I read this, I thought, oh yeah, this 390 00:19:09,080 --> 00:19:10,880 Speaker 1: is like when you thought they had it too. Now 391 00:19:10,920 --> 00:19:12,639 Speaker 1: this is like one of your like prop bets that 392 00:19:12,640 --> 00:19:14,399 Speaker 1: you almost get right. But then since you're in the 393 00:19:14,440 --> 00:19:18,600 Speaker 1: same area, you say ers and then all the Sessler 394 00:19:18,640 --> 00:19:20,760 Speaker 1: minions are like, yeah, yeah, he did it, he did it. 395 00:19:20,800 --> 00:19:23,920 Speaker 1: Give it to It's like Aaron Rodgers. It's like he's 396 00:19:23,960 --> 00:19:25,800 Speaker 1: the guy that you send out a billion gifts a 397 00:19:25,800 --> 00:19:29,199 Speaker 1: week about how he's so technically brilliant and beautiful. And 398 00:19:29,240 --> 00:19:31,280 Speaker 1: look at this passing through behind his back and the 399 00:19:31,359 --> 00:19:34,640 Speaker 1: completed for fifteen yards. But there is an argument. We've 400 00:19:34,840 --> 00:19:37,200 Speaker 1: talked about it in and out the podcast. There's always 401 00:19:37,240 --> 00:19:39,359 Speaker 1: been some little bit of a ship missing or something 402 00:19:39,400 --> 00:19:41,359 Speaker 1: that makes him a little bit of a different experience. 403 00:19:41,880 --> 00:19:47,760 Speaker 1: This clarified, which we know. But he is regarded almost 404 00:19:47,800 --> 00:19:50,439 Speaker 1: like you cast it off as an aside as the 405 00:19:50,480 --> 00:19:54,640 Speaker 1: most physically gifted quarterback to ever play football. And he's miserable, 406 00:19:54,840 --> 00:19:57,200 Speaker 1: but and that makes him kind of fascinating to be honest. 407 00:19:57,280 --> 00:20:00,000 Speaker 1: That's like, that's like the billionaire. But nothing will make 408 00:20:00,040 --> 00:20:02,600 Speaker 1: Cam happy, you know how. It kind of you know, 409 00:20:02,640 --> 00:20:04,880 Speaker 1: made me think of Dan Marino because I think a lot, 410 00:20:04,960 --> 00:20:07,720 Speaker 1: you know, Dan Marie there weren't as many you know blocks, 411 00:20:07,760 --> 00:20:09,879 Speaker 1: you know, there weren't blogs, or there wasn't Twitter or anything. 412 00:20:10,600 --> 00:20:13,399 Speaker 1: This definitely weren't blogs. Right. This was a very you know, 413 00:20:13,600 --> 00:20:17,359 Speaker 1: similar narrative around Dan Marino in a lot of ways. 414 00:20:17,359 --> 00:20:20,439 Speaker 1: Different in some ways obviously with the coaches and everything, 415 00:20:20,480 --> 00:20:23,320 Speaker 1: but in terms of the talent and the relationship he 416 00:20:23,359 --> 00:20:25,720 Speaker 1: had with his teammates and freezing them out and never 417 00:20:25,880 --> 00:20:29,040 Speaker 1: kind of like, you know, fulfilling his destiny and reminded 418 00:20:29,160 --> 00:20:31,919 Speaker 1: he did by his lineman isotone or gloves remember that 419 00:20:32,040 --> 00:20:35,119 Speaker 1: and another head coach he stuck around too long? Yeah, 420 00:20:35,240 --> 00:20:39,320 Speaker 1: during his prime years. All right. In other news, I'm 421 00:20:39,359 --> 00:20:44,440 Speaker 1: really excited about these uniforms from the perspective of where 422 00:20:44,440 --> 00:20:47,760 Speaker 1: this organization is right now. The theme of this team 423 00:20:47,840 --> 00:20:51,879 Speaker 1: us take flight. We're ready to contro a new era 424 00:20:53,359 --> 00:20:56,640 Speaker 1: hashtag take flight baby. Was that like a cult leader? 425 00:20:56,680 --> 00:21:01,640 Speaker 1: Who was Uh? That was David McTavish of the Church 426 00:21:01,640 --> 00:21:06,400 Speaker 1: of Scientology. Okay, thank you, No, that was Christopher Johnson, 427 00:21:06,440 --> 00:21:12,639 Speaker 1: the acting owner of Jets, who unveiled their new uniforms 428 00:21:12,760 --> 00:21:17,440 Speaker 1: or something like that Thursday in Manhattan, and uh, as 429 00:21:17,840 --> 00:21:19,800 Speaker 1: you guys would expect a lot of people on Twitter, 430 00:21:19,960 --> 00:21:22,000 Speaker 1: zeus or what do you think? What do you like them? 431 00:21:22,040 --> 00:21:26,919 Speaker 1: I think they're okay. I think they certainly. My thoughts 432 00:21:26,920 --> 00:21:30,600 Speaker 1: on uniform reveals in general, it goes like there's there's 433 00:21:30,640 --> 00:21:34,480 Speaker 1: two components involved. For me is that in the last 434 00:21:34,520 --> 00:21:39,199 Speaker 1: five six years, the teams and social media seized on 435 00:21:39,400 --> 00:21:42,399 Speaker 1: and successfully seized on this idea that fans love this, 436 00:21:42,600 --> 00:21:44,720 Speaker 1: so you're gonna build it up for months and months 437 00:21:44,720 --> 00:21:48,480 Speaker 1: and months, And the downside of that is when it 438 00:21:48,520 --> 00:21:52,120 Speaker 1: gets revealed after all the build up, it's almost always 439 00:21:52,240 --> 00:21:54,760 Speaker 1: a little bit of like, oh, that that's all it is. 440 00:21:55,080 --> 00:21:57,200 Speaker 1: So I think you have that that works with all 441 00:21:57,200 --> 00:21:59,159 Speaker 1: teams when they do this, and then you have what 442 00:21:59,240 --> 00:22:02,320 Speaker 1: I call the Jets acts, which is and everyone else 443 00:22:02,320 --> 00:22:04,359 Speaker 1: gets to have fun with this. And and as a 444 00:22:04,359 --> 00:22:07,120 Speaker 1: Browns fan, you know this too, Mark, but I don't 445 00:22:07,160 --> 00:22:08,719 Speaker 1: get to have fun with this, but everybody else does, 446 00:22:08,760 --> 00:22:11,200 Speaker 1: and I don't hate on it. It just always better 447 00:22:11,240 --> 00:22:14,360 Speaker 1: to just kill the Jets and make fun of the Jets, uh, 448 00:22:14,400 --> 00:22:16,920 Speaker 1: And that's always gonna happen. So that's why I think 449 00:22:16,920 --> 00:22:19,360 Speaker 1: you there was some criticism of the jerseys. I think 450 00:22:19,359 --> 00:22:22,439 Speaker 1: they're okay. I like the green helmet. I like that 451 00:22:22,480 --> 00:22:25,840 Speaker 1: they modified the logo up top. I'm not huge on 452 00:22:25,880 --> 00:22:28,439 Speaker 1: the New York across the chest. But that's another thing 453 00:22:28,480 --> 00:22:30,639 Speaker 1: that happened about twenty years ago. A bunch of marketers 454 00:22:30,640 --> 00:22:33,719 Speaker 1: got in the ears of these sports teams. The Giants 455 00:22:33,720 --> 00:22:35,320 Speaker 1: did the same thing when they went back to the 456 00:22:35,440 --> 00:22:38,080 Speaker 1: n Y logo, and there you gotta get you gotta 457 00:22:38,080 --> 00:22:39,680 Speaker 1: get in New York in the mix. You gotta market 458 00:22:39,760 --> 00:22:42,280 Speaker 1: around New York. So I think that's why they did that. 459 00:22:42,720 --> 00:22:45,800 Speaker 1: The black alternate jerseys, all right, whatever, that's that's just 460 00:22:46,440 --> 00:22:49,119 Speaker 1: it is what it is. My favorite I I I 461 00:22:49,119 --> 00:22:52,320 Speaker 1: would give. I'd give the uniform like a B minus B. 462 00:22:52,600 --> 00:22:55,199 Speaker 1: It's not a disaster, not a home run. Curious your guys, well, 463 00:22:55,240 --> 00:22:57,439 Speaker 1: I would say, like not being a disaster is a 464 00:22:57,480 --> 00:23:00,520 Speaker 1: win because as a Browns fan, you lived in a 465 00:23:00,600 --> 00:23:03,280 Speaker 1: uniform scenario that was a disaster for half a decade. 466 00:23:03,320 --> 00:23:08,159 Speaker 1: And one thing, there's the whole hoopla surrounding the uniform 467 00:23:08,200 --> 00:23:11,040 Speaker 1: reveal is tedious. I like the young team. I liked 468 00:23:11,080 --> 00:23:13,800 Speaker 1: there was something about Jamal Adams and Sam Donald out 469 00:23:13,800 --> 00:23:15,840 Speaker 1: there together and they were on Good Morning Football Today. 470 00:23:16,040 --> 00:23:18,080 Speaker 1: I'll say one thing, the uniforms looked a lot better 471 00:23:18,560 --> 00:23:19,960 Speaker 1: on Good Morning Football. I don't know if it was 472 00:23:19,960 --> 00:23:22,040 Speaker 1: the lighting on the set. My thing with uniforms is 473 00:23:22,040 --> 00:23:24,720 Speaker 1: always I don't care how they look on a stage. 474 00:23:25,000 --> 00:23:27,040 Speaker 1: I want to see what they look like on the field, 475 00:23:27,119 --> 00:23:29,760 Speaker 1: because they typically will look very different. I'm a big 476 00:23:29,760 --> 00:23:32,760 Speaker 1: fan of Matt Finish helmets over super shiny, so I 477 00:23:32,760 --> 00:23:34,520 Speaker 1: want to warm up to that. But I don't think 478 00:23:34,520 --> 00:23:37,679 Speaker 1: they're a disaster on any level. They're totally fine for 479 00:23:37,720 --> 00:23:40,560 Speaker 1: the most part. But it was not a disaster. It 480 00:23:40,560 --> 00:23:43,520 Speaker 1: could have been so much worse. And the Browns uniforms 481 00:23:43,600 --> 00:23:46,720 Speaker 1: last year, by mid season, when when they were playing 482 00:23:46,760 --> 00:23:49,359 Speaker 1: well and there was some hope, the uniforms, it's a 483 00:23:49,400 --> 00:23:53,240 Speaker 1: psychological thing, started to look good, makes sense. It started 484 00:23:53,240 --> 00:23:55,360 Speaker 1: to look good, So don't worry about it. Well, yeah, 485 00:23:55,480 --> 00:23:58,600 Speaker 1: inevitably they're kind of you know, the design is using 486 00:23:58,680 --> 00:24:03,359 Speaker 1: kind of new design trends and generally people outside of 487 00:24:03,359 --> 00:24:06,919 Speaker 1: the rider That's what I mean. That's what I mean. 488 00:24:07,200 --> 00:24:09,760 Speaker 1: I'm saying older people like us are going to push 489 00:24:09,760 --> 00:24:14,480 Speaker 1: against it. Gotham green, spotlight white, it's just white and 490 00:24:14,760 --> 00:24:18,200 Speaker 1: stealth black. Those are Nike told those are new colors. 491 00:24:18,359 --> 00:24:21,200 Speaker 1: I love the black. I like the helmet, and I like, Um, 492 00:24:21,520 --> 00:24:23,640 Speaker 1: A lot of people were saying the same joke out 493 00:24:23,680 --> 00:24:25,080 Speaker 1: there that it was kind of like the two lane 494 00:24:25,119 --> 00:24:27,000 Speaker 1: green Jets. So it's like, if you're looking like the 495 00:24:27,040 --> 00:24:28,600 Speaker 1: two lane green wave out there, and it does look 496 00:24:28,640 --> 00:24:31,240 Speaker 1: pretty much exactly like the one of the new two 497 00:24:31,280 --> 00:24:34,480 Speaker 1: lane uniforms, I like it, and they that's fine. I don't. Yeah, 498 00:24:34,480 --> 00:24:35,840 Speaker 1: that doesn't have a bad thing. And then it was like, 499 00:24:35,880 --> 00:24:38,840 Speaker 1: oh this people love co tight jets. Well, you could 500 00:24:38,880 --> 00:24:42,480 Speaker 1: pick any era outside nineteen sixty nine and and say that's, oh, 501 00:24:42,560 --> 00:24:45,000 Speaker 1: it's a bad error for their uniforms. It's they need 502 00:24:45,080 --> 00:24:47,160 Speaker 1: to start something new, and that's that's what they're trying 503 00:24:47,200 --> 00:24:50,399 Speaker 1: to do. It's the whole the reboot thing, the the 504 00:24:50,520 --> 00:24:52,880 Speaker 1: idea of the bold new look will be a bold 505 00:24:52,920 --> 00:24:56,320 Speaker 1: new direction, which the Buccaneers once upon a time actually 506 00:24:56,400 --> 00:24:59,239 Speaker 1: pulled off back in the late nineties, where they were 507 00:24:59,440 --> 00:25:02,800 Speaker 1: terrible for twenty five years, got new uniforms and immediately 508 00:25:02,840 --> 00:25:07,280 Speaker 1: became well because they changed with theirselves. All the Broncos 509 00:25:07,480 --> 00:25:09,600 Speaker 1: had their forever, and when they moved to their more 510 00:25:09,720 --> 00:25:11,800 Speaker 1: current ones, they went to two Super Bowls with that 511 00:25:11,880 --> 00:25:14,360 Speaker 1: way right away, there is some type of connection there 512 00:25:14,400 --> 00:25:16,840 Speaker 1: and the Jets will be playing in February next year. 513 00:25:17,800 --> 00:25:19,600 Speaker 1: That's what I take out of it. What might take 514 00:25:19,680 --> 00:25:21,879 Speaker 1: also was, uh, you know, they make a big deal 515 00:25:21,960 --> 00:25:23,520 Speaker 1: out of it, because I do remember when I was 516 00:25:23,600 --> 00:25:27,080 Speaker 1: more in that boss mode, the metrics. I mean, people, 517 00:25:28,280 --> 00:25:31,280 Speaker 1: you know, we could write like seventeen are you know, 518 00:25:31,440 --> 00:25:33,280 Speaker 1: great long forms for the rest of the year. They're 519 00:25:33,280 --> 00:25:35,800 Speaker 1: not going to combine to you know, equal the amount 520 00:25:35,800 --> 00:25:41,040 Speaker 1: of traffic. It was just like what the biggest articles 521 00:25:41,080 --> 00:25:43,640 Speaker 1: of the year uniforms. It was a bigger deal when 522 00:25:43,640 --> 00:25:46,080 Speaker 1: I was younger too, when Parcels took over and the 523 00:25:46,160 --> 00:25:48,880 Speaker 1: first thing he did, uh, it took over ninety seven. 524 00:25:48,920 --> 00:25:51,400 Speaker 1: Starting in the year he said, we want to call 525 00:25:51,480 --> 00:25:53,159 Speaker 1: back to the name of Era, and that's when they 526 00:25:53,200 --> 00:25:57,000 Speaker 1: did the reboot. They called and remember back to the future. 527 00:25:57,040 --> 00:25:59,879 Speaker 1: I think was their angle at that time. Um. Now, 528 00:26:00,280 --> 00:26:02,720 Speaker 1: now it's twenty years later and I get it it's 529 00:26:02,760 --> 00:26:04,880 Speaker 1: time to kind of freshen things up. So we'll see 530 00:26:05,680 --> 00:26:08,520 Speaker 1: what happens. Jack and Harrison. I'm already take my money 531 00:26:08,760 --> 00:26:10,920 Speaker 1: NFL shop, going to get some Donald What about the 532 00:26:10,920 --> 00:26:13,359 Speaker 1: people that bought a Donald Jersey last year? Though? When 533 00:26:13,359 --> 00:26:15,960 Speaker 1: they're stuck with the it's probably fine, but it's not 534 00:26:16,080 --> 00:26:19,760 Speaker 1: great though. It's a tough situation. I agree. I feel 535 00:26:19,760 --> 00:26:21,720 Speaker 1: should have known it was for them. Yeah, you feel 536 00:26:22,080 --> 00:26:24,320 Speaker 1: I feel like the um back to the uniform things, 537 00:26:24,440 --> 00:26:27,359 Speaker 1: but with the Browns, I feel like they should just 538 00:26:27,760 --> 00:26:30,720 Speaker 1: really embrace and just go back to the eighties. Look, 539 00:26:30,800 --> 00:26:32,920 Speaker 1: is that the thing that's out I believe from all 540 00:26:33,040 --> 00:26:35,120 Speaker 1: hints out there, and this is going back two years 541 00:26:35,200 --> 00:26:37,639 Speaker 1: that they realized there they got a little too fluffy 542 00:26:37,680 --> 00:26:41,280 Speaker 1: and a little too crazy that the overwhelming cry to 543 00:26:41,400 --> 00:26:43,320 Speaker 1: make this change is and they talked about it. It's 544 00:26:43,359 --> 00:26:45,920 Speaker 1: nothing fancy, essentially, is the tag because they are the 545 00:26:46,040 --> 00:26:49,320 Speaker 1: Cleveland Browns. Their whole thing is that they're just simple 546 00:26:49,600 --> 00:26:53,200 Speaker 1: like this is our franchise where the Browns, and they're 547 00:26:53,240 --> 00:26:56,520 Speaker 1: going back to that and they're keeping the brown uniforms 548 00:26:56,560 --> 00:26:59,360 Speaker 1: that they leaned on heavy the the right. Yes, those 549 00:26:59,400 --> 00:27:01,840 Speaker 1: ones elf gonna be phased out. I think the ELpH 550 00:27:01,920 --> 00:27:04,560 Speaker 1: is going to be, which is the ELpH has essentially 551 00:27:04,600 --> 00:27:06,639 Speaker 1: been phased out for a long time outside of some 552 00:27:06,760 --> 00:27:11,920 Speaker 1: end zone paint and uh, you know Freddie Kitchens baseball hats, 553 00:27:12,320 --> 00:27:13,800 Speaker 1: Like I think he's gonna be a big part of it. 554 00:27:13,960 --> 00:27:15,480 Speaker 1: It or he had it as an elfha he, I 555 00:27:15,520 --> 00:27:19,920 Speaker 1: guess it is. He probably a thing, yeah, a mystical creature. Uh, 556 00:27:20,880 --> 00:27:25,560 Speaker 1: a woodland creature, fairy tale. Let's move on. Kirk Cousins. Uh, 557 00:27:25,680 --> 00:27:29,320 Speaker 1: this is interesting. So he is set to address UM. 558 00:27:30,280 --> 00:27:33,200 Speaker 1: Michigan State is alma mater ahead of their final four 559 00:27:33,400 --> 00:27:36,800 Speaker 1: n c A Double A basketball Uh match up against 560 00:27:36,920 --> 00:27:42,320 Speaker 1: greg Texas Tech. I believe Texas Tech the Red Raiders. 561 00:27:43,080 --> 00:27:46,600 Speaker 1: Uh and UM. I just want to point out, am 562 00:27:46,640 --> 00:27:51,720 Speaker 1: I totally comfortable if I'm a Michigan State fan with 563 00:27:52,000 --> 00:27:55,880 Speaker 1: Kirk Cousins being the guy guys take this thing home. 564 00:27:56,200 --> 00:27:58,520 Speaker 1: I don't know if I'm comfortable with it throwing that 565 00:27:58,600 --> 00:28:03,679 Speaker 1: out there, higher or lower grade than the Jets uniforms. Uh. 566 00:28:04,000 --> 00:28:08,440 Speaker 1: Kirk Cousins speaking to Riston State, it's pretty random against 567 00:28:08,520 --> 00:28:11,359 Speaker 1: the new Jets uniforms. I uh, if you're giving it 568 00:28:11,440 --> 00:28:14,880 Speaker 1: the grade. Kirk Cousins being selected to address Michigan State 569 00:28:14,920 --> 00:28:17,399 Speaker 1: for me as a C minus people, you know, I was, 570 00:28:17,760 --> 00:28:21,240 Speaker 1: you know, checking around. There's divergent opinions on Kirk cousins 571 00:28:21,320 --> 00:28:24,960 Speaker 1: pregames speeches because they have a lot of energy. Uh. 572 00:28:25,400 --> 00:28:26,840 Speaker 1: He he's kind of the guy who does it for 573 00:28:26,880 --> 00:28:29,119 Speaker 1: the Vikings, but sometimes they're a little weird. Remember the 574 00:28:29,200 --> 00:28:31,679 Speaker 1: one last year where he was like, you know they 575 00:28:31,760 --> 00:28:33,720 Speaker 1: put us in primetime. That's because they want to see it. 576 00:28:33,840 --> 00:28:36,679 Speaker 1: Like it was very excited that they like flex them 577 00:28:36,720 --> 00:28:40,840 Speaker 1: in or something. We deserve to be flexed up. So 578 00:28:41,000 --> 00:28:45,160 Speaker 1: specific you're not watching any of the March madness, Uh, 579 00:28:46,200 --> 00:28:49,160 Speaker 1: I have not. I did see good games. I did 580 00:28:49,280 --> 00:28:52,640 Speaker 1: see like the very end of the Duke game. Well 581 00:28:52,840 --> 00:28:57,280 Speaker 1: while in our hotel room in Phoenix, I remember, I'm 582 00:28:57,320 --> 00:29:00,960 Speaker 1: not you know, it's my hating. Used to be like 583 00:29:01,040 --> 00:29:03,360 Speaker 1: my used to be my favorite thing. But you know 584 00:29:03,400 --> 00:29:06,560 Speaker 1: when you get older sometimes in life you just you're like, 585 00:29:06,760 --> 00:29:09,440 Speaker 1: what connection do I have to any of this? I'll 586 00:29:09,520 --> 00:29:12,680 Speaker 1: take my time doing something else. What do you do 587 00:29:12,800 --> 00:29:16,960 Speaker 1: instead of watching? Uh? Basketball? Yeah, spend time with the family, 588 00:29:17,240 --> 00:29:22,400 Speaker 1: read tennis, and I watch a lot of tennis, watch 589 00:29:22,440 --> 00:29:26,120 Speaker 1: a lot of tennis. Wow. Um. I actually was at 590 00:29:26,240 --> 00:29:31,000 Speaker 1: a El Sugundo um tavern, not a tavern, it's kind 591 00:29:31,000 --> 00:29:33,920 Speaker 1: of more a bar and grill with an outdoor component 592 00:29:34,000 --> 00:29:38,800 Speaker 1: to it, and I was watching the Auburn Kentucky game 593 00:29:39,360 --> 00:29:42,080 Speaker 1: and a listener of the Around the NFL podcast happened 594 00:29:42,080 --> 00:29:43,800 Speaker 1: to be sitting right there, and he said hello and 595 00:29:43,840 --> 00:29:45,760 Speaker 1: said he was a big fan of the show. Is 596 00:29:45,800 --> 00:29:48,080 Speaker 1: that the rock and roll themed place that has an 597 00:29:48,080 --> 00:29:51,800 Speaker 1: outdoor section. Yes, I believe the It is owned by 598 00:29:52,080 --> 00:29:55,600 Speaker 1: Gene Simmons, And I mean there was a there was 599 00:29:56,040 --> 00:29:58,320 Speaker 1: there every Saturday from twelve till three. If you are 600 00:29:58,360 --> 00:30:00,680 Speaker 1: interested seeing him again? Is him in my life? They 601 00:30:00,760 --> 00:30:03,800 Speaker 1: where the Yukon Huskies were like my number one sports team. 602 00:30:03,840 --> 00:30:06,040 Speaker 1: I remember her next girlfriend getting mad that, like I 603 00:30:06,200 --> 00:30:09,360 Speaker 1: canceled on a a plan with her because I wanted 604 00:30:09,360 --> 00:30:12,960 Speaker 1: to watch Big Monday, you know, big Yukon Villanova game. 605 00:30:13,040 --> 00:30:15,640 Speaker 1: Back in the ray Allen, I think Carrie Kittles, did 606 00:30:15,680 --> 00:30:19,040 Speaker 1: you recover? Did the relationship after that? No? Not? I 607 00:30:19,080 --> 00:30:21,920 Speaker 1: mean it it failed for many reasons, including that I 608 00:30:22,000 --> 00:30:23,560 Speaker 1: think it was like a red flag that I would 609 00:30:23,560 --> 00:30:26,040 Speaker 1: have rather, you know, watch Big Monday at that point. 610 00:30:26,280 --> 00:30:31,400 Speaker 1: Couch Uh. Finally in the news, Patrick Mahomes, guy's got 611 00:30:31,440 --> 00:30:33,920 Speaker 1: a cannon. He's so gifted. The Chief's quarterback. Well, you know, 612 00:30:34,040 --> 00:30:37,400 Speaker 1: another guy's got a cannon. Mark your boys, your team, 613 00:30:37,480 --> 00:30:40,240 Speaker 1: the Bills. They got this young kid, Josh Allen. He 614 00:30:40,280 --> 00:30:44,480 Speaker 1: could heave it anyway, speaking not always to the right person, 615 00:30:44,600 --> 00:30:47,120 Speaker 1: but from Western New York. He was honored at a 616 00:30:47,200 --> 00:30:51,240 Speaker 1: charity event for athletic and full philanthropic achievements. Nailed It. 617 00:30:51,920 --> 00:30:55,960 Speaker 1: Mahomes acknowledged an offseason Twitter challenge from Josh l to 618 00:30:56,000 --> 00:30:59,560 Speaker 1: see who could toss the biggest bomb. Josh is a 619 00:30:59,640 --> 00:31:02,040 Speaker 1: great but no one that I've known has been able 620 00:31:02,080 --> 00:31:05,440 Speaker 1: to throw a ball farther than me. Mahomes said via 621 00:31:05,480 --> 00:31:09,320 Speaker 1: the Batavia Daily News. I've never seen Josh throw in person, 622 00:31:09,400 --> 00:31:12,480 Speaker 1: but maybe next offseason we can set something up to 623 00:31:12,600 --> 00:31:16,080 Speaker 1: see who could throw the old Pitts game further. I 624 00:31:16,120 --> 00:31:19,600 Speaker 1: would be careful. Yeah, why not? Why next off season? 625 00:31:20,040 --> 00:31:21,840 Speaker 1: It feels like you're dodging and maybe it's plenty of 626 00:31:21,920 --> 00:31:25,040 Speaker 1: time left to get that done. Logistically he wants. Mahomes 627 00:31:25,160 --> 00:31:27,440 Speaker 1: is a type of guy that thinks big picture above 628 00:31:27,520 --> 00:31:30,040 Speaker 1: the tree tops, as they say in the corporal offices here, 629 00:31:30,320 --> 00:31:32,280 Speaker 1: and he wants to make sure he's got an arena. 630 00:31:32,600 --> 00:31:35,720 Speaker 1: He can get the promotion out there. They could move tickets, 631 00:31:35,920 --> 00:31:38,200 Speaker 1: merch all those things. It still feels like you've got 632 00:31:38,400 --> 00:31:40,600 Speaker 1: a solid four months right You're It's it's one of 633 00:31:40,680 --> 00:31:42,520 Speaker 1: those things where it's like, oh, yeah, we should go 634 00:31:42,600 --> 00:31:45,360 Speaker 1: out to dinner sometime and you're like, well, what you're 635 00:31:45,480 --> 00:31:47,600 Speaker 1: you're here, You're in town for a month right now? 636 00:31:48,240 --> 00:31:50,040 Speaker 1: Because should we make but oh yeah, we should do it. 637 00:31:50,160 --> 00:31:52,400 Speaker 1: Sometimes we'll be in touch and then two years later 638 00:31:52,480 --> 00:31:55,360 Speaker 1: we see each other again. Um, all right, that's what's 639 00:31:55,400 --> 00:31:57,280 Speaker 1: happening in the news. Let's get to the mail bag, 640 00:31:57,320 --> 00:32:04,360 Speaker 1: because again another tease. We have, unfortunately some issues we 641 00:32:04,440 --> 00:32:07,160 Speaker 1: have to work out with the Shield and some behind 642 00:32:07,240 --> 00:32:11,440 Speaker 1: the scenes um problem that came up on one SAT. 643 00:32:11,480 --> 00:32:13,360 Speaker 1: So we're gonna get to that. But let's first hit 644 00:32:13,440 --> 00:32:16,800 Speaker 1: the mailbag. Are great listeners at Around the NFL podcast 645 00:32:17,400 --> 00:32:20,040 Speaker 1: who we love sent in a bunch of questions, so 646 00:32:20,080 --> 00:32:23,840 Speaker 1: I'm gonna go through some of them right now, starting 647 00:32:24,440 --> 00:32:32,080 Speaker 1: with Neil Underscore g C. Which team do you think 648 00:32:32,160 --> 00:32:35,720 Speaker 1: has the best roster pre draft going into the season. 649 00:32:35,880 --> 00:32:38,360 Speaker 1: He's got the best roster right now. If you had 650 00:32:39,360 --> 00:32:50,680 Speaker 1: pick Chiefs, No, not one, Cults. It's a tough one. 651 00:32:50,840 --> 00:32:53,920 Speaker 1: It's a tough one. I think I'd go Eagles. I've 652 00:32:53,960 --> 00:32:57,800 Speaker 1: been kind of banging that drum Chiefs would be close. Chiefs. 653 00:32:58,800 --> 00:33:01,080 Speaker 1: I know, it's like not really great of a defensive 654 00:33:01,160 --> 00:33:04,160 Speaker 1: roster with Patrick Mahomes and just the talent on offenses 655 00:33:04,320 --> 00:33:08,320 Speaker 1: enough for me. Our boy Neil asks what other team 656 00:33:08,440 --> 00:33:11,760 Speaker 1: uniforms would you and the Heroes change other than the Browns? 657 00:33:11,840 --> 00:33:14,960 Speaker 1: Pending in the Bucks blatantly that is easy for me. 658 00:33:15,840 --> 00:33:18,600 Speaker 1: The uniform and it is no dis on a division rival. 659 00:33:18,720 --> 00:33:21,719 Speaker 1: The Cincinnati Bengals uniform to me is a has been 660 00:33:21,760 --> 00:33:26,400 Speaker 1: an eyesore for a thousand years. I would go to Patriots. 661 00:33:26,560 --> 00:33:28,560 Speaker 1: I'm not. I haven't been a fan. I guess it 662 00:33:28,800 --> 00:33:30,760 Speaker 1: locked in, though you have too much glory with these 663 00:33:30,840 --> 00:33:33,160 Speaker 1: uniforms to go back to pat Patriots. I think they'll 664 00:33:33,440 --> 00:33:36,440 Speaker 1: they'll switch it, yeah, once Brady retires, but it kind 665 00:33:36,440 --> 00:33:40,080 Speaker 1: of doesn't make sense until then. What about you? I 666 00:33:40,120 --> 00:33:42,400 Speaker 1: don't know a lot of them. One of the first 667 00:33:42,440 --> 00:33:44,960 Speaker 1: players I liked, uh, and it was pre Jets, was 668 00:33:45,440 --> 00:33:49,480 Speaker 1: Boomers Sisson and I and I really loved that Bengals 669 00:33:49,520 --> 00:33:51,680 Speaker 1: team in the late eighties, and I always I actually 670 00:33:51,800 --> 00:33:55,680 Speaker 1: liked the stripes. Uh. The Jaguars. They're fixing their helmets too, 671 00:33:55,720 --> 00:33:57,800 Speaker 1: I believe. I think they've already done it, so they 672 00:33:57,880 --> 00:34:01,160 Speaker 1: got rid of it. The tone more a season plus 673 00:34:01,200 --> 00:34:03,880 Speaker 1: into that, Yes, so I think, Uh, I'm all right, 674 00:34:04,440 --> 00:34:06,600 Speaker 1: I said, I don't care as much about it I 675 00:34:06,720 --> 00:34:09,000 Speaker 1: used to like when I was a teenager. It meant 676 00:34:09,040 --> 00:34:11,440 Speaker 1: a lot to me. It doesn't get me hung up. 677 00:34:11,640 --> 00:34:14,400 Speaker 1: The rams they don't do. They still have the mismatched 678 00:34:14,880 --> 00:34:17,640 Speaker 1: helmet with the I don't like that to the blue tone. 679 00:34:17,680 --> 00:34:19,239 Speaker 1: That's a little off. Not fan of that. Yeah, I 680 00:34:19,280 --> 00:34:22,000 Speaker 1: think they gotta fix that. All right, here we go, Joey, 681 00:34:22,480 --> 00:34:25,880 Speaker 1: excuse me, Jesscatto rites, have you ever skipped work for 682 00:34:26,000 --> 00:34:29,919 Speaker 1: a massage or plant too in the future? This one's 683 00:34:29,920 --> 00:34:35,000 Speaker 1: for Erica I have. Yeah, I love getting massages. Yeah 684 00:34:35,400 --> 00:34:38,080 Speaker 1: it's nice. I've only gotten one massage and it was 685 00:34:38,200 --> 00:34:41,960 Speaker 1: on my honeymoon. Same thing. That's so funny. I was 686 00:34:42,040 --> 00:34:43,480 Speaker 1: just like, well, I guess if you're gonna do it 687 00:34:43,920 --> 00:34:46,239 Speaker 1: now in time, and I enjoyed it, But that was 688 00:34:46,320 --> 00:34:48,200 Speaker 1: the only time, like you know, it really came up. 689 00:34:48,360 --> 00:34:50,439 Speaker 1: I had one ever, and it was with my wife 690 00:34:50,480 --> 00:34:52,719 Speaker 1: where you have like a like students are learning how 691 00:34:52,760 --> 00:34:54,880 Speaker 1: to do it, so it's like a cut rate, like 692 00:34:55,280 --> 00:34:57,319 Speaker 1: ten dollar massage. It was fine, but I don't need 693 00:34:57,400 --> 00:34:59,600 Speaker 1: to like that's it's a funny thing to think about it. 694 00:35:00,160 --> 00:35:02,480 Speaker 1: Someone's just like, hey, Mark, I've got like a group 695 00:35:02,560 --> 00:35:04,920 Speaker 1: on two for one massage is ten bucks at the 696 00:35:04,960 --> 00:35:09,719 Speaker 1: Old Charlie walking By or something that's a bit of 697 00:35:09,760 --> 00:35:11,920 Speaker 1: a roll of the dice. How much damage can they do? 698 00:35:12,080 --> 00:35:14,400 Speaker 1: But it's kind of like when, well, it's not like 699 00:35:14,480 --> 00:35:16,600 Speaker 1: that you get a haircut the first exactly, it's not 700 00:35:16,680 --> 00:35:19,160 Speaker 1: the first car on the job. They've learned the trade 701 00:35:19,440 --> 00:35:22,719 Speaker 1: in theory and they're just about to become set apart 702 00:35:22,760 --> 00:35:24,840 Speaker 1: as their own. Guys are weird with massages though. They 703 00:35:24,880 --> 00:35:28,239 Speaker 1: don't like you know, I tried to bring my brother 704 00:35:28,280 --> 00:35:30,040 Speaker 1: to a massage place and he was like, he was like, 705 00:35:30,160 --> 00:35:33,080 Speaker 1: I don't want like another dude like rubbing my back. 706 00:35:33,800 --> 00:35:35,759 Speaker 1: And I was like, okay, then I would get a woman. 707 00:35:36,080 --> 00:35:40,080 Speaker 1: You know, he probably has some problems for you know. 708 00:35:40,160 --> 00:35:41,920 Speaker 1: I would ask for a woman myself. In fact, they 709 00:35:41,960 --> 00:35:47,000 Speaker 1: did for my honeymoon massage. It was a big burly woman. Well, 710 00:35:47,000 --> 00:35:49,360 Speaker 1: they need to be able using those elbows and getting 711 00:35:49,400 --> 00:35:51,799 Speaker 1: in the it's so soothing. It's really good for your 712 00:35:51,840 --> 00:35:53,719 Speaker 1: health too, and your and your muscles. I try to 713 00:35:53,760 --> 00:35:56,120 Speaker 1: get one of I think it just seems like it's 714 00:35:56,160 --> 00:35:58,960 Speaker 1: not so much. I would. I love the actual act 715 00:35:59,080 --> 00:36:01,720 Speaker 1: on massage, but just like paying its just paying money 716 00:36:01,800 --> 00:36:04,320 Speaker 1: for that level of like it seems so indulgent, Not 717 00:36:04,440 --> 00:36:06,480 Speaker 1: that I don't indulge in other things, but it just 718 00:36:06,560 --> 00:36:09,840 Speaker 1: seems wild. What do you indulge in? What do you 719 00:36:09,920 --> 00:36:12,399 Speaker 1: pay money for food? It's spent way to us money 720 00:36:12,440 --> 00:36:16,600 Speaker 1: and food. This from our old friend T m Are Troopers. 721 00:36:17,520 --> 00:36:20,480 Speaker 1: Uh to replace the around the A A F podcast? 722 00:36:20,800 --> 00:36:24,279 Speaker 1: Can you do a Greg Likes Wrap spinoff instead? I like, 723 00:36:28,440 --> 00:36:30,839 Speaker 1: this is the rap that we're playing, the rapidy rap 724 00:36:31,760 --> 00:36:34,360 Speaker 1: it's happening here. I don't think i'd be a panelist 725 00:36:34,440 --> 00:36:37,560 Speaker 1: on this show. I mean I would break it out open, 726 00:36:37,719 --> 00:36:41,160 Speaker 1: you know, more than just wrapped. Yeah, you do have 727 00:36:41,320 --> 00:36:44,560 Speaker 1: a larger pell than we have. This. Yeah, we were 728 00:36:44,640 --> 00:36:47,600 Speaker 1: just texting about the great new Jenny Lewis album Dan 729 00:36:48,760 --> 00:36:53,360 Speaker 1: Great Star love that what's called down the line on 730 00:36:53,480 --> 00:36:56,759 Speaker 1: the line on the line this is this is like 731 00:36:57,040 --> 00:36:59,880 Speaker 1: the music from White Men Can't Jump during all the 732 00:37:00,080 --> 00:37:05,440 Speaker 1: like two on two games. Josh McKinney, Well, the hero 733 00:37:05,600 --> 00:37:08,359 Speaker 1: is becoming to Nashville for the draft, if so any 734 00:37:08,400 --> 00:37:10,359 Speaker 1: plans we wanted to, but it was one of those 735 00:37:10,400 --> 00:37:12,600 Speaker 1: things they actually the Shadow League figures have done a 736 00:37:12,640 --> 00:37:16,279 Speaker 1: good job recently sending us to events, so we can't 737 00:37:16,320 --> 00:37:19,320 Speaker 1: complain but for whatever reason, and we haven't done it 738 00:37:19,400 --> 00:37:22,280 Speaker 1: for a few years. The draft we kind of circled 739 00:37:22,360 --> 00:37:24,320 Speaker 1: Nashville is something we wanted to go to potentially, but 740 00:37:24,400 --> 00:37:26,560 Speaker 1: it just didn't take off well. Also, West has we 741 00:37:26,640 --> 00:37:29,360 Speaker 1: have a bachelor party event for West and then like 742 00:37:29,520 --> 00:37:32,319 Speaker 1: weeks later the wedding, and so I don't know if 743 00:37:32,360 --> 00:37:34,960 Speaker 1: West West has done in fact right now for a 744 00:37:35,080 --> 00:37:41,000 Speaker 1: wedding related event back she has it all Unlock and West. 745 00:37:41,360 --> 00:37:44,080 Speaker 1: And this is the thing about West three years ago. 746 00:37:44,120 --> 00:37:46,800 Speaker 1: Would you ever imagine West just being led around like 747 00:37:47,120 --> 00:37:50,160 Speaker 1: I think we should say sound boys sound bites where 748 00:37:50,160 --> 00:37:52,080 Speaker 1: he would be like, I'm not going anyway, I'm just 749 00:37:52,080 --> 00:37:54,719 Speaker 1: gonna get married in my backyard. No, but the second 750 00:37:54,800 --> 00:37:57,560 Speaker 1: he was with the paramore, this all seemed as soon 751 00:37:57,600 --> 00:38:00,000 Speaker 1: as the actual person you're getting married to gets involved, 752 00:38:01,160 --> 00:38:04,560 Speaker 1: the rules change very quickly. Prague Power asks, soudn't you 753 00:38:04,600 --> 00:38:06,279 Speaker 1: guys have learned by now not to write off the 754 00:38:06,320 --> 00:38:09,160 Speaker 1: Patriots before the season starts. A f C. East Champs 755 00:38:09,239 --> 00:38:11,320 Speaker 1: nine times in a row should tell you not to 756 00:38:11,480 --> 00:38:14,279 Speaker 1: run with the quote changing of the guard narrative. Yet 757 00:38:14,320 --> 00:38:16,480 Speaker 1: you can't seem to help yourself to run with it. 758 00:38:16,719 --> 00:38:20,480 Speaker 1: That is certainly fair, and uh yeah, there's a very 759 00:38:20,520 --> 00:38:22,759 Speaker 1: good chance of Patriots go twelve and four and win 760 00:38:22,800 --> 00:38:25,239 Speaker 1: their division by three games. I am not ruling that out, 761 00:38:25,880 --> 00:38:29,680 Speaker 1: but it is absolutely also fair in two thousand nineteen, 762 00:38:30,440 --> 00:38:33,399 Speaker 1: with what's going on around that organization, to wonder if 763 00:38:33,480 --> 00:38:36,480 Speaker 1: we are coming near the end. That's okay too. I 764 00:38:36,520 --> 00:38:38,560 Speaker 1: don't really do for a living well. It's funny because 765 00:38:38,600 --> 00:38:42,280 Speaker 1: that the bar is so high now after eight straight buys, 766 00:38:42,719 --> 00:38:46,160 Speaker 1: there's a nine in nine straight, a f C Championship, 767 00:38:46,280 --> 00:38:48,040 Speaker 1: eight straight, a f C champion night trip. It's like 768 00:38:48,280 --> 00:38:50,319 Speaker 1: if they went ten and six or eleven and five 769 00:38:50,400 --> 00:38:53,360 Speaker 1: and where the where the five seed? But some NFC, 770 00:38:53,600 --> 00:38:55,160 Speaker 1: you know, some other a f C t it's like 771 00:38:55,280 --> 00:38:57,960 Speaker 1: that would be seen as somehow like the run is over. 772 00:38:58,040 --> 00:39:01,040 Speaker 1: But the bar was high after four straight. They don't 773 00:39:01,040 --> 00:39:03,560 Speaker 1: seem to care. Uh. This is a good one. In 774 00:39:03,680 --> 00:39:08,279 Speaker 1: honor of Operation Pink Pony. This from Connor Lapalami. What 775 00:39:08,600 --> 00:39:13,239 Speaker 1: is your favorite NFL or any sport conspiracy theory in 776 00:39:13,320 --> 00:39:15,920 Speaker 1: the realm of sports? I have a few, I and 777 00:39:16,000 --> 00:39:19,880 Speaker 1: I'll throw him out there in the NFL um it's 778 00:39:19,920 --> 00:39:21,960 Speaker 1: a popular one. This one doesn't do much for me. 779 00:39:22,000 --> 00:39:24,000 Speaker 1: But I'll throw it out for the purposes of this exercise. 780 00:39:24,080 --> 00:39:27,480 Speaker 1: The Superdome power out outage at Super Bowl forty seven, 781 00:39:27,960 --> 00:39:30,560 Speaker 1: the Ravens and Terrell Suggs and I believe ray Lewis 782 00:39:30,560 --> 00:39:34,640 Speaker 1: had both in vocal that the NFL and specifically Roger 783 00:39:34,719 --> 00:39:37,520 Speaker 1: Goodell cut the lights because that game was turning into 784 00:39:37,560 --> 00:39:40,080 Speaker 1: a blowout. And of course Colin Kaepertick in the night 785 00:39:40,080 --> 00:39:42,479 Speaker 1: Otors launched a furious comeback as soon as the lights 786 00:39:42,880 --> 00:39:46,920 Speaker 1: came back on. And my memory of that was that 787 00:39:47,040 --> 00:39:51,520 Speaker 1: was our second Super Bowl. Mark yes, yes, um you 788 00:39:52,480 --> 00:39:55,239 Speaker 1: um were kind enough to hand over one of your 789 00:39:55,360 --> 00:39:58,520 Speaker 1: Super Bowl tickets so Keith could my dad could attend 790 00:39:58,560 --> 00:40:01,160 Speaker 1: the game. He went with Simone. They sat together. She's 791 00:40:01,200 --> 00:40:04,680 Speaker 1: a Niners fancy for the game. And uh, I remember 792 00:40:04,760 --> 00:40:07,399 Speaker 1: when the lights went down and the air conditioning cut 793 00:40:07,440 --> 00:40:09,919 Speaker 1: and we were way up in the top. The number 794 00:40:09,920 --> 00:40:12,400 Speaker 1: one thing that entered my mind, oh, I brought my 795 00:40:12,480 --> 00:40:15,440 Speaker 1: dad to the Super Bowl and now we're being isis 796 00:40:15,520 --> 00:40:19,400 Speaker 1: is here or something? It felt like a total terrorist attack. Uh, 797 00:40:19,719 --> 00:40:22,120 Speaker 1: glad it wasn't, but it felt like one. I'm with 798 00:40:22,200 --> 00:40:26,640 Speaker 1: you that I don't like the best um conspiracy theory 799 00:40:26,719 --> 00:40:29,440 Speaker 1: stuff that I know. I feel like we can't say 800 00:40:30,239 --> 00:40:32,680 Speaker 1: on this show, what do you mean? I mean you're 801 00:40:32,719 --> 00:40:36,400 Speaker 1: big into conspiracy, We're we're on the opposite end of that. Generally, 802 00:40:36,440 --> 00:40:41,880 Speaker 1: I'm anti all conspiracy theories and you're pro. I'm not pro. 803 00:40:42,239 --> 00:40:45,359 Speaker 1: I'm pro one or two, not all that. I'm more 804 00:40:45,400 --> 00:40:47,680 Speaker 1: of anti like the way it's framed sometimes, Like my 805 00:40:47,800 --> 00:40:52,040 Speaker 1: least favorite NFL related conspiracy theory is whenever the Pete 806 00:40:52,120 --> 00:40:54,560 Speaker 1: Carroll like nine eleven truth or stuff comes up, and 807 00:40:54,640 --> 00:40:57,120 Speaker 1: it's always framed as like, hey, I'm not saying anything, 808 00:40:57,160 --> 00:41:00,360 Speaker 1: I'm just asking the questions. But he's like, no, no, 809 00:41:00,640 --> 00:41:04,800 Speaker 1: it's been proved, like asking the question that's not a 810 00:41:05,120 --> 00:41:08,560 Speaker 1: football conspiracy, but just talking about the football player talking 811 00:41:08,600 --> 00:41:12,600 Speaker 1: about concum to two NBA ones. I love is that? 812 00:41:13,080 --> 00:41:16,840 Speaker 1: And this actually came up coincidentally on Wednesday show. Michael 813 00:41:16,880 --> 00:41:20,280 Speaker 1: Jordan's David Stern forced him into a one year hiatus 814 00:41:20,360 --> 00:41:23,960 Speaker 1: because of his gambling issues, which led to him playing 815 00:41:24,000 --> 00:41:28,839 Speaker 1: minor league baseball. Patrick ewing Uh the David Stern again 816 00:41:28,960 --> 00:41:33,480 Speaker 1: and the NBA rigging the lottery with a cold envelope 817 00:41:33,880 --> 00:41:35,840 Speaker 1: to give the Knicks the number one overall pick and 818 00:41:35,880 --> 00:41:39,160 Speaker 1: make them relevant again. But my favorite sports conspiracy theory, 819 00:41:39,200 --> 00:41:41,000 Speaker 1: and I've heard this for years and it popped up 820 00:41:41,560 --> 00:41:43,840 Speaker 1: and that we could talk about it because both of 821 00:41:43,920 --> 00:41:46,000 Speaker 1: the main people connected to it, while two of the 822 00:41:46,120 --> 00:41:50,439 Speaker 1: three have addressed up publicly, was that in n Cal 823 00:41:50,560 --> 00:41:55,960 Speaker 1: Ripken Jr. Who was still UM in the still had 824 00:41:56,040 --> 00:41:58,879 Speaker 1: his consecutive game streak going. Maybe it was before because 825 00:41:58,880 --> 00:42:02,680 Speaker 1: I think he said it. But the theory is, or 826 00:42:02,719 --> 00:42:05,960 Speaker 1: the conspiracy is that they canceled an Orioles game, uh 827 00:42:06,440 --> 00:42:11,319 Speaker 1: blaming an electrical lights male function because Cal skipped out 828 00:42:11,400 --> 00:42:14,719 Speaker 1: of the clubhouse because he found out that Kevin Costner 829 00:42:15,000 --> 00:42:18,200 Speaker 1: had been in intimate relations with Cal's wife or he 830 00:42:18,239 --> 00:42:20,480 Speaker 1: had caught them in bed together and he wasn't going 831 00:42:20,560 --> 00:42:22,320 Speaker 1: to the game. He wasn't gonna play. Is one of 832 00:42:22,320 --> 00:42:25,719 Speaker 1: the Orioles canceled the game. I believed that until the 833 00:42:25,840 --> 00:42:29,319 Speaker 1: Costner part of it. Then there's the guy that Cal 834 00:42:29,560 --> 00:42:33,560 Speaker 1: caught with his wife and um both sides. Cal and 835 00:42:33,719 --> 00:42:38,919 Speaker 1: Costner have refuted this, but I love it. The electrical part. 836 00:42:38,960 --> 00:42:41,279 Speaker 1: I could buy into that they would cancel it for 837 00:42:41,400 --> 00:42:43,719 Speaker 1: some reason for cow well. I I lived in that 838 00:42:43,880 --> 00:42:46,160 Speaker 1: area back then and went to Orioles plenty of orils 839 00:42:46,560 --> 00:42:49,280 Speaker 1: during that well, I didn't hear that then, but during 840 00:42:49,360 --> 00:42:53,200 Speaker 1: that run I could imagine them cutting the lights because 841 00:42:53,239 --> 00:42:56,200 Speaker 1: it was the biggest thing going at all, and that 842 00:42:56,440 --> 00:42:59,120 Speaker 1: in that that city was like enamored. I remember that 843 00:42:59,239 --> 00:43:00,800 Speaker 1: is one of those word this moment. Do you remember 844 00:43:00,840 --> 00:43:03,000 Speaker 1: where you were? I was in the bag shop at 845 00:43:03,080 --> 00:43:10,840 Speaker 1: the Hamden Country Club watching washing people's golf clubs. Okay, 846 00:43:11,120 --> 00:43:14,799 Speaker 1: with the TV on in the background. All right, there 847 00:43:14,800 --> 00:43:18,960 Speaker 1: you go. That's the mail bag, Ricky. Before we get 848 00:43:19,000 --> 00:43:22,880 Speaker 1: to our last matter of business regarding the shield, Uh, 849 00:43:23,239 --> 00:43:25,839 Speaker 1: we haven't ducked into your d M situation a while. 850 00:43:25,920 --> 00:43:36,000 Speaker 1: What's going on over there? Let's check it out? Right? 851 00:43:36,160 --> 00:43:41,120 Speaker 1: Such a good one. I got one from Trick. Uh. 852 00:43:42,440 --> 00:43:47,480 Speaker 1: His name was Trick one to one three, and it says, listen, 853 00:43:47,760 --> 00:43:51,200 Speaker 1: you're cute. There's no getting around it. So I don't 854 00:43:51,200 --> 00:43:53,439 Speaker 1: know if you like country music, but I was thinking 855 00:43:53,520 --> 00:43:55,279 Speaker 1: maybe one of these days we could drive out to 856 00:43:55,320 --> 00:43:59,880 Speaker 1: a field, crank up some tunes, smoke a few mccannon dudes. 857 00:44:00,000 --> 00:44:04,200 Speaker 1: I don't even know what that is, maybe even toss 858 00:44:04,280 --> 00:44:06,880 Speaker 1: a disk around and then it's like pig Latin. I 859 00:44:07,000 --> 00:44:14,040 Speaker 1: think way day inc thing translated Mark Uh, what do 860 00:44:14,120 --> 00:44:20,279 Speaker 1: you think? What do you say? Uh? What's a m 861 00:44:20,400 --> 00:44:26,439 Speaker 1: p A Y? Either way, it's a strange combination of things. 862 00:44:26,560 --> 00:44:30,680 Speaker 1: I think cigar smoking. Uh is that a reference of 863 00:44:30,719 --> 00:44:34,040 Speaker 1: marijuana smoking? I don't know. Macanudo is a type of cigar, 864 00:44:34,640 --> 00:44:38,680 Speaker 1: isn't it. That's even stranger? Nobody likes the uh and 865 00:44:38,760 --> 00:44:41,480 Speaker 1: then throw a disk around? I mean, what are we? Uh? 866 00:44:41,960 --> 00:44:44,600 Speaker 1: What is this? Dazed? Been confused? Sounds like a major 867 00:44:44,680 --> 00:44:48,680 Speaker 1: stoner to me, Like you might actually be um harmless, 868 00:44:48,960 --> 00:44:53,200 Speaker 1: but I wouldn't just in case I would not maybe 869 00:44:53,239 --> 00:44:55,280 Speaker 1: not maybe not No, Yeah, I mean there's a pretty 870 00:44:55,360 --> 00:44:58,160 Speaker 1: decent chance he would end up as like part of 871 00:44:58,239 --> 00:45:01,520 Speaker 1: the mulch in the field if you go, I'm looking 872 00:45:01,560 --> 00:45:04,040 Speaker 1: at this guy's cycled compost, so I don't doesn't have 873 00:45:04,080 --> 00:45:11,160 Speaker 1: a killer vibe. Really they are, according according to their website, 874 00:45:11,160 --> 00:45:14,960 Speaker 1: they are iconic premium cigars at least strange move though, 875 00:45:15,080 --> 00:45:21,239 Speaker 1: strange move alright, good good trip in the d M S. Listen, 876 00:45:21,760 --> 00:45:25,160 Speaker 1: you know the listeners they have. They fall hard for 877 00:45:25,280 --> 00:45:29,600 Speaker 1: the producer and it's just part of life. What can 878 00:45:29,640 --> 00:45:32,160 Speaker 1: I say? Well, that's something you're used to. I'm sure. 879 00:45:32,600 --> 00:45:35,160 Speaker 1: All right, Before we go alright, so here's the bad 880 00:45:35,200 --> 00:45:38,400 Speaker 1: news about the shield. Yes, we won. Some sore bodies, 881 00:45:38,920 --> 00:45:42,239 Speaker 1: some muscles, and Erica's swinging or prosthetic leg out of 882 00:45:42,280 --> 00:45:43,920 Speaker 1: the car and that's hard to do for it right now, 883 00:45:44,280 --> 00:45:48,480 Speaker 1: but um, we won. The bad news is that our 884 00:45:49,000 --> 00:45:52,200 Speaker 1: catcher are part time catchers. She kind of platoons with 885 00:45:52,920 --> 00:45:56,080 Speaker 1: the paramore. In fact, behind the plate. Her name is Brassy. 886 00:45:56,239 --> 00:45:57,960 Speaker 1: I think she's maybe been on the show once, so 887 00:45:58,040 --> 00:46:00,360 Speaker 1: we've talked about her a few times. Uh. She was 888 00:46:00,440 --> 00:46:04,719 Speaker 1: not at the game, in fact, for a nine pm game. 889 00:46:04,840 --> 00:46:10,680 Speaker 1: She she overslept and and internally, Uh, it was not 890 00:46:11,440 --> 00:46:13,640 Speaker 1: something we were happy about. We had enough girls, so 891 00:46:13,719 --> 00:46:15,200 Speaker 1: we were lucky that it did not come back to 892 00:46:15,280 --> 00:46:18,480 Speaker 1: haunt us because in co ed softball, the battle to 893 00:46:18,560 --> 00:46:20,880 Speaker 1: have enough girls is one of the biggest challenges you 894 00:46:20,960 --> 00:46:24,600 Speaker 1: face all season. Uh. So we we were able to survive. 895 00:46:24,680 --> 00:46:27,960 Speaker 1: But it doesn't make it any less irresponsible, uh and 896 00:46:28,120 --> 00:46:31,799 Speaker 1: frankly disrespectful to the team. Ricky as a new girl, 897 00:46:32,200 --> 00:46:34,120 Speaker 1: I know you don't as a rookie, you don't get 898 00:46:34,160 --> 00:46:36,239 Speaker 1: to say as much. You kind of just have to, 899 00:46:36,680 --> 00:46:39,560 Speaker 1: you know, earn your stripes. But I'm sure you look 900 00:46:39,600 --> 00:46:43,200 Speaker 1: at it like this. This woman, Brassie is has two titles, 901 00:46:43,560 --> 00:46:45,960 Speaker 1: and this is how she opens up our comeback season. 902 00:46:47,160 --> 00:46:51,320 Speaker 1: Yeah stunning, right, yeah, I mean it's also not stunning. 903 00:46:52,840 --> 00:46:55,800 Speaker 1: So there's been a track record here of red flags 904 00:46:55,840 --> 00:46:59,360 Speaker 1: and incidents over the years, some off field problems. So 905 00:46:59,400 --> 00:47:02,560 Speaker 1: Wednesday show, I told you that the Shielders in negotiations 906 00:47:02,600 --> 00:47:06,080 Speaker 1: to bring Mark Sesler back aboard in um a front 907 00:47:06,120 --> 00:47:09,560 Speaker 1: office role hand he handles discipline he's done in the past, 908 00:47:09,680 --> 00:47:13,600 Speaker 1: and Mark is kind enough to agree to step in, 909 00:47:14,239 --> 00:47:17,319 Speaker 1: uh and handle this matter involving Brassey because you've got 910 00:47:17,440 --> 00:47:20,360 Speaker 1: to cut this cancer out. It's not a good to 911 00:47:20,400 --> 00:47:23,560 Speaker 1: start the season. So Mark, Um, would you be okay 912 00:47:23,640 --> 00:47:26,480 Speaker 1: if we got um Brassy on the phone and you 913 00:47:26,560 --> 00:47:29,160 Speaker 1: could let her know what her punishment is. Yes, because 914 00:47:29,239 --> 00:47:32,200 Speaker 1: it's simply team business. Okay, Let's let's get her on 915 00:47:32,280 --> 00:47:42,640 Speaker 1: the line. Hey, Ryan, can I speak with shown up? Please? Uh? 916 00:47:43,040 --> 00:47:47,560 Speaker 1: She actually just left, so she's not around when you 917 00:47:47,640 --> 00:47:49,759 Speaker 1: need her. That's that's part of the course. All right, 918 00:47:49,800 --> 00:47:53,520 Speaker 1: We'll try We'll try another number. Thank you. Let's try 919 00:47:53,600 --> 00:48:15,239 Speaker 1: herself speaking. Hey Brassey, what's up? Skip here? I am 920 00:48:15,360 --> 00:48:19,040 Speaker 1: going to pass you over to Mark Sessler. He is 921 00:48:19,120 --> 00:48:25,040 Speaker 1: the Shields Human human Resources coordinator. UM, well, this is 922 00:48:25,120 --> 00:48:28,160 Speaker 1: a serious issue and I appreciate you to treat it 923 00:48:28,680 --> 00:48:30,920 Speaker 1: as that. Yeah, this should be address. I need to 924 00:48:30,960 --> 00:48:33,560 Speaker 1: explain myself, Mr. I hold on number one. The tone 925 00:48:33,600 --> 00:48:36,600 Speaker 1: off the bat um is concerning. There was an incident 926 00:48:36,719 --> 00:48:40,960 Speaker 1: that I've learned about this morning at the inaugural kickoff 927 00:48:41,719 --> 00:48:46,319 Speaker 1: game for the Shield two time defending champions. Game kicks 928 00:48:46,360 --> 00:48:48,000 Speaker 1: off at nine o'clock. I want to just I want 929 00:48:48,040 --> 00:48:50,279 Speaker 1: to present you with the information that I have that 930 00:48:50,480 --> 00:48:56,040 Speaker 1: you texted a member of our team, Brooke, essentially saying, 931 00:48:56,239 --> 00:48:58,759 Speaker 1: O MG, I just woke up the game. By the way, 932 00:48:58,800 --> 00:49:00,880 Speaker 1: first pitch at nine pm, I'm going to be banned 933 00:49:00,920 --> 00:49:03,600 Speaker 1: from the Shield. And she writes back and says, you know, 934 00:49:03,760 --> 00:49:05,840 Speaker 1: five girls, at this point you should be okay and 935 00:49:05,960 --> 00:49:09,719 Speaker 1: at that stage telling you just hurry that you're gonna 936 00:49:09,760 --> 00:49:14,480 Speaker 1: get here. You text back many many minutes later, about 937 00:49:14,520 --> 00:49:19,400 Speaker 1: an hour later, saying I fell back asleep in your 938 00:49:19,440 --> 00:49:22,480 Speaker 1: own words, train wreck. Did you all have enough? Girls? 939 00:49:22,600 --> 00:49:27,960 Speaker 1: I feel so bad. Hold on your your you will 940 00:49:28,000 --> 00:49:32,560 Speaker 1: have a moment to speaking. I'll say it. I want 941 00:49:32,600 --> 00:49:35,319 Speaker 1: to tell you, number one, what is present your case? 942 00:49:35,520 --> 00:49:37,640 Speaker 1: Very quickly, and I suggested to make it very quick. 943 00:49:39,000 --> 00:49:42,360 Speaker 1: I was tired and I just must have turned my 944 00:49:42,400 --> 00:49:44,560 Speaker 1: alarm off. I mean I had, I had my clothes 945 00:49:44,640 --> 00:49:49,200 Speaker 1: on bag ready, I didn't wake up. The thing that 946 00:49:49,320 --> 00:49:52,879 Speaker 1: bothers all of us is that you are a two 947 00:49:53,000 --> 00:49:55,759 Speaker 1: time member of this team. You've been part of two 948 00:49:55,840 --> 00:49:59,920 Speaker 1: championship efforts. You had a disastrous Sinko to Mayo episode 949 00:50:00,360 --> 00:50:02,000 Speaker 1: uh in the first season with the team where you 950 00:50:02,040 --> 00:50:05,000 Speaker 1: showed up. I would just say, not three sheets to win, 951 00:50:05,080 --> 00:50:07,480 Speaker 1: to the win would be generous. The fact that you 952 00:50:07,680 --> 00:50:10,719 Speaker 1: are a veteran on this team, a leader. We have 953 00:50:10,880 --> 00:50:13,080 Speaker 1: younger people are producer. Erica is on the team for 954 00:50:13,120 --> 00:50:14,960 Speaker 1: the first time that she has to deal with this 955 00:50:15,120 --> 00:50:17,879 Speaker 1: from veterans that the younger players have to suddenly become 956 00:50:18,000 --> 00:50:20,960 Speaker 1: leaders because our leaders are asleep in their beds and 957 00:50:21,040 --> 00:50:25,600 Speaker 1: falling asleep twice after the first pitch. Brassie, present your 958 00:50:25,640 --> 00:50:27,759 Speaker 1: case very quickly. You have one last chance. We have 959 00:50:27,840 --> 00:50:30,920 Speaker 1: a we have something else to tell you. I apologize. 960 00:50:30,920 --> 00:50:33,480 Speaker 1: I was sleep at the wheel. I immediately knew when 961 00:50:33,480 --> 00:50:35,320 Speaker 1: I woke up I was going to hear it. So 962 00:50:35,480 --> 00:50:40,839 Speaker 1: I've been bracing myself for punishments as I know what's coming. 963 00:50:41,360 --> 00:50:43,360 Speaker 1: We do not need on this team some sort of 964 00:50:43,480 --> 00:50:47,920 Speaker 1: low level ladder stage Darryl Strawberry type figure. You are 965 00:50:48,000 --> 00:50:51,000 Speaker 1: suspended for two games, and uh, I can throw it 966 00:50:51,120 --> 00:50:53,520 Speaker 1: over to the manager. At this point, Dan hansis there 967 00:50:53,640 --> 00:50:56,920 Speaker 1: is a possibility to appeal that down to one but 968 00:50:57,080 --> 00:51:00,960 Speaker 1: I see nothing based on your reactions. Are your actions 969 00:51:01,719 --> 00:51:03,640 Speaker 1: that we need to take this down to one game, Dan, 970 00:51:04,920 --> 00:51:08,440 Speaker 1: I don't feel comfortable having any further conversation on this. 971 00:51:09,000 --> 00:51:13,040 Speaker 1: I know our HR representatives here, but Brassie, you know 972 00:51:13,160 --> 00:51:16,440 Speaker 1: I love you, but I think also this punishment is fair. 973 00:51:16,600 --> 00:51:19,480 Speaker 1: Work on your sleep schedule, please? Well can we make 974 00:51:19,520 --> 00:51:22,680 Speaker 1: those two games all I'm on vacations? No, there are 975 00:51:22,760 --> 00:51:25,440 Speaker 1: effectivemmediate least, it's not in your terms. Goodbye, have a 976 00:51:25,480 --> 00:51:30,160 Speaker 1: good weekend, Brassie. It had to be done, and um, 977 00:51:30,640 --> 00:51:32,680 Speaker 1: I don't like doing that. And we just suspended Eily 978 00:51:32,680 --> 00:51:34,320 Speaker 1: a couple of years ago and that wasn't easy and 979 00:51:34,360 --> 00:51:36,960 Speaker 1: this wasn't easy either, And hopefully she'll learn from this 980 00:51:37,080 --> 00:51:40,520 Speaker 1: and grow. Greg the Bronxoo is in town right now. 981 00:51:40,560 --> 00:51:42,160 Speaker 1: I mean I'm a little more worried about kind of 982 00:51:42,239 --> 00:51:45,360 Speaker 1: like the underlying off the field issues that are contributing 983 00:51:45,440 --> 00:51:47,239 Speaker 1: to this. I'm worried about her as a person. Yea, 984 00:51:47,360 --> 00:51:50,200 Speaker 1: more important than what's going on on the field. Very true. 985 00:51:50,520 --> 00:51:54,520 Speaker 1: All right, we'll be back. Um, we'll be back next week. 986 00:51:54,600 --> 00:51:57,520 Speaker 1: Two shows next week Monday Thursday. We'll do a Wednesday 987 00:51:58,160 --> 00:52:01,960 Speaker 1: Twitter show of course, two shows following week Monday Thursday 988 00:52:02,000 --> 00:52:05,080 Speaker 1: Twitter show as well, and then Draft week kits and 989 00:52:05,160 --> 00:52:08,839 Speaker 1: we'll be back three shows, including Thursday night right after 990 00:52:08,920 --> 00:52:11,200 Speaker 1: the draft doing the show, and then Saturday night after 991 00:52:11,600 --> 00:52:14,960 Speaker 1: Round seven. So check all that stuff out, follow us 992 00:52:15,760 --> 00:52:19,520 Speaker 1: on on Twitter of course, but also leave comments and 993 00:52:19,680 --> 00:52:23,360 Speaker 1: reviews and stars uh in iTunes and also the around 994 00:52:23,360 --> 00:52:26,920 Speaker 1: the NFL sub breddit which is growing and growing and growing. 995 00:52:27,320 --> 00:52:29,640 Speaker 1: Love you guys, We love you. Have a great weekend. 996 00:52:29,840 --> 00:52:34,920 Speaker 1: This is Dan Hanss signing off four Quiet Storm. The 997 00:52:34,960 --> 00:52:38,920 Speaker 1: old boss Ricky Hollywood behind the glass had to be done, 998 00:52:38,960 --> 00:53:09,279 Speaker 1: Mark had to had to be done Steel Monday. You 999 00:53:09,360 --> 00:53:12,040 Speaker 1: did not get enough credit for your bad are comment 1000 00:53:12,320 --> 00:53:15,520 Speaker 1: like that was so good because I don't like it's 1001 00:53:15,600 --> 00:53:20,240 Speaker 1: not on my my radar bedar Greek like Bay Radar 1002 00:53:20,400 --> 00:53:23,560 Speaker 1: Green Bay, and both of you guys were like, yeah, 1003 00:53:26,000 --> 00:53:28,280 Speaker 1: you gonna miss it. Sorry buddy, it's okay,