Speaker 1: You're listening to Talking Traders with Me Tamra Judge. Hey, guys,
Speaker 1: welcome to another episode of Talking Traders with Tamra. I
Speaker 1: have a co host, of course, one that was on
Speaker 1: last week that was so good that we brought her back,
Speaker 1: and that is Janelle.
Speaker 2: Hi. Janelle, Hey, Tamra, thanks for having me again.
Speaker 1: Yes, I have to tell you. I just flew in
Speaker 1: from San Francisco. I was out late. We had our
Speaker 1: live show and I am beat. So I'm really gonna
Speaker 1: lean on you, girl, I really am go.
Speaker 2: Oh my gosh, that was so sad. Last episode. Oh
Speaker 2: just brutal.
Speaker 1: I know, I know there's some missing parts to it.
Speaker 1: We're going to get to it. But I was. I
Speaker 1: found out who actually was behind murdering me as I
Speaker 1: was about to walk on stage in front of five
Speaker 1: hundred people in San Francisco. So all this time I
Speaker 1: thought it was Dan. I thought Dan behind it. But
Speaker 1: let me tell you why. You know, I said last
Speaker 1: week I had suspicion that Dan was a trader, and
Speaker 1: people gave me so much shit on social media saying
Speaker 1: if you thought he was a trader, then why didn't
Speaker 1: you just call him out and me and you talked
Speaker 1: about this. It's just not that easy. It's a strategy
Speaker 1: and you can't just go oh, you know, you have
Speaker 1: different suspicions all the time. But Dan was somebody that
Speaker 1: I really thought was a trader. But me and Dan
Speaker 1: were really close, and I thought it's some in my
Speaker 1: crazy mind that he would recruit me because he liked me.
Speaker 1: I mean, he would talk to me about his wife
Speaker 1: and his kids, and all the off time we had,
Speaker 1: we would sit there and talk. Dan and I had
Speaker 1: a conversation at last, the last fifteen minutes, like what
Speaker 1: is eleven o'clock? The bell rings and everybody's got to
Speaker 1: go to bed. So we had a conversation. I said, Dan,
Speaker 1: do you trust me? He's like yes, Now this wasn't shown,
Speaker 1: and he says, yes, do you trust me? I said yeah.
Speaker 1: I said, I just want to let you know because
Speaker 1: I've been so sick. I've been so quiet, but I've
Speaker 1: been able to observe a lot of things, and you
Speaker 1: are getting blamed for being so quiet. I think it's
Speaker 1: time that we band together and we get aggressive. Okay,
Speaker 1: And I said that Tony, I don't know. Yes, Tamra, yes,
Speaker 1: you know, don't repeat anything. I tell you, Tamara, I
Speaker 1: won't repeat anything you tell me, on and on and on.
Speaker 1: So I thought, well, if anything, if I stay close
Speaker 1: to him, like you know, keep your friends closer, your
Speaker 1: enemy's closer, right, thought it was one of those things.
Speaker 1: So the next morning I was murdered, and so in
Speaker 1: my mind I thought it was Dan. Dan has been
Speaker 1: trying to reach out to me. It's not what you think,
Speaker 1: you know, he knew, like, oh my god, this is
Speaker 1: gonna Tamar's gonna hate me, which I know. It's a game,
Speaker 1: but you get a little invested in it.
Speaker 2: Yeah, oh yeah, you do, yeah, big time.
Speaker 1: You get a little invested in it, and sometimes it
Speaker 1: pisses you off, which leads me to this. I'm gonna
Speaker 1: play a little clip for you, Janelle, and I need
Speaker 1: you to explain this one.
Speaker 2: Okay, okay, housewives are just trying to get both together
Speaker 2: to get someone out of the game. I don't think
Speaker 2: there's a strategy behind their voting at all. People keep
Speaker 2: throwing the housewives out there as traders. Let's just be real.
Speaker 2: They don't have the skill or the strategy to have
Speaker 2: this mastermind about who to murder. And then you left,
Speaker 2: and then I left, But I really don't think it
Speaker 2: was Faedra pulling all the strings. I mean, do you,
Speaker 2: because all the murders to me led to Dan. I
Speaker 2: wouldn't have those murders never led to Fedra. She was
Speaker 2: never really her hands were so not dirty in this game.
Speaker 1: But you're not answering the question to know it was
Speaker 1: let's be real, they don't have the skill, They're not
Speaker 1: smart enough.
Speaker 2: Oh well, okay, so you know who I was talking
Speaker 2: about when I said that, because there's one housewife where
Speaker 2: I just really couldn't work with. I didn't know what
Speaker 2: franchise she was from, so she was very irritated with me.
Speaker 2: And that person is Charret. I for sure crossed her
Speaker 2: off as definitely not being a trader, so it was
Speaker 2: a process of elimination for me. Larsa. We had just
Speaker 2: banished her. I was like, okay, she's not a trader.
Speaker 1: You.
Speaker 2: I knew you were a faithful, So I was like,
Speaker 2: Tarma is a freaking faithful and that's why I think
Speaker 2: you were murdered. You were murdered because you would have
Speaker 2: never been banished. So it all led back to Phaedra.
Speaker 2: And as I said at the beginning, I trusted Faedra
Speaker 2: with my life. She had so fooled. Okay, like this
Speaker 2: woman is that good. She is playing better than Dan
Speaker 2: Geeseley who have played Big Brother with. I mean I
Speaker 2: would have I would have protected that woman with my life.
Speaker 2: I would have never thought she was a trader.
Speaker 1: Well, Phaedra has that effect on people, that's for sure.
Speaker 1: She's playing a great game, playing a great game. When
Speaker 1: I found out last night that it was her, I
Speaker 1: sent her a little devil emoji and she sent me
Speaker 1: back praying. She sent me back praying hands.
Speaker 2: Oh my goodness.
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, I really thought that I'm just giving you
Speaker 1: a hard time.
Speaker 2: I know. A lot of my blame note was always
Speaker 2: Dan in Parver. You know that, So I'm like Dan.
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, but now watching Dan play, like the look
Speaker 1: on his face and the bad acting.
Speaker 2: Yeah yeah, so it really it wasn't a dig at
Speaker 2: the Housewives. It was more of like a process of
Speaker 2: elimination and who I think is a trader?
Speaker 1: That's yeah, well today we sit before you, murdered and
Speaker 1: banished all in the same episode.
Speaker 2: I mean it was meant to be, you know.
Speaker 1: I know I am. I'm a little bit bummed that
Speaker 1: I didn't get to work with Kate Chesting.
Speaker 2: Oh my gosh, I know she would have been such
Speaker 2: a good, faithful to work with. I know.
Speaker 1: So I have a question for you. How does it
Speaker 1: feel to be on the number one unscripted series in
Speaker 1: the United States?
Speaker 2: Oh, my gosh, I mean so exciting. I guess I'm
Speaker 2: not that surprised because of the caliber of cast they
Speaker 2: put together. Ye, so many overs, So there's so many
Speaker 2: fans that just love the cast so much.
Speaker 1: It's crazy. I'm wondering if they're going to continue with
Speaker 1: I guess you would call it celebrity casts, or they're
Speaker 1: going to go back to Yeah, I'm curious. I think
Speaker 1: they're pasting for season three.
Speaker 2: Oh absolutely, I heard they were. But I don't think
Speaker 2: that the season with so many like regular people mixed
Speaker 2: with celebrities was very popular because it was difficult for
Speaker 2: the celebrity cast to play with.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I agree. I think that you have to have
Speaker 1: like all celebrity or all.
Speaker 2: Just absolutely yeah. I think the cast of non celebrities
Speaker 2: would be would be fun though, to watch how these
Speaker 2: people do this. I think that would be absolutely entertaining.
Speaker 1: I watched the Australian version. If you guys haven't you
Speaker 1: there's like a UK version, Australian version, a US version.
Speaker 1: They're all really good. And the I think it was
Speaker 1: the Australian one. They had just you know, just regular people,
Speaker 1: not that we're not regular people, but you know what
Speaker 1: I mean, non celebrity people, and it was really good.
Speaker 2: I thought the UK favorite.
Speaker 1: But yes, oh really the UK is your favorite?
Speaker 2: Oh my gosh, the UK is so good because the
Speaker 2: tradering is so good. The faithful well, I'm not going
Speaker 2: to spoil it for you, but the trader wil Fin,
Speaker 2: it is so good. He's so convincing.
Speaker 1: I got. I never finished watching the Australian one. I
Speaker 1: was just studying it before I went.
Speaker 2: To Yeah, Scot smart your homework. I'm good.
Speaker 1: Yeah. So have you got any negative feedback from the show?
Speaker 1: I know we talked and you're like, oh my god,
Speaker 1: the Housewife fans are crazy, like they like you've had
Speaker 1: you've had to block people.
Speaker 2: I did block some people. They're they're really mean. Some
Speaker 2: of the CBS fans are fighting with the Bravo people
Speaker 2: and you know, if we say anything or you know,
Speaker 2: there was some Larsa stuff. I'm like, I mean, I
Speaker 2: thought lars and I were good, but no, the Housewife
Speaker 2: fans are very passionate, and they're very vocal, and.
Speaker 1: Sometimes sometimes sometimes I'm not very kind, but speaking, I'm
Speaker 1: not very kind. Larsa Pippens says Janelle was jealous of
Speaker 1: her screen time on The Traders, so EW did an
Speaker 1: article about it, and here's some of her quotes. Larsa's
Speaker 1: quoted saying, I think Janelle was upset that I was
Speaker 1: getting a lot of camera time and she wanted me
Speaker 1: off the show because I make good television she doesn't.
Speaker 1: The Real Housewives of Miami star says Janelle responded to
Speaker 1: this article with a tweet that said, this can't be real.
Speaker 1: Janelle tweeted with laughing crying emojis. The only reason I
Speaker 1: came for Larsa was because she wouldn't shut her trap
Speaker 1: about who would want Ekinsu dead and was continuously targeting me.
Speaker 1: Also definitely not voting out CT. Larsa quoted this about Sandra.
Speaker 1: I mean, I don't necessarily think I run the Housewives.
Speaker 1: I think I'm probably more vocal, but I was mind
Speaker 1: boggled when I heard Sandra say that I look ten
Speaker 1: to twelve years older than her. She definitely needs to
Speaker 1: have her eyes checked on that one.
Speaker 2: So funny, so entertaining. I mean, how in the heck
Speaker 2: would I ever know what the producers are going to
Speaker 2: edit for a show. I have no idea, right, so
Speaker 2: I'm not psychic. I have no ability psychic ability to
Speaker 2: be like, I know, Lar's just going to steal my
Speaker 2: camera time. She needs to go like.
Speaker 1: That sense yeah, I mean yeah, but it's just funny.
Speaker 1: You guys have this banter going back and forth. Did
Speaker 1: you not? You got along? You guys got along for
Speaker 1: the most part, right that along?
Speaker 2: Fine? I mean I thought we were good. But I
Speaker 2: think she may blame me for her banishment, although I
Speaker 2: mean it really wasn't me. It was more parviti than anything.
Speaker 2: I definitely voted her out though, and said some things
Speaker 2: of the banishment, But you know, it was one of
Speaker 2: those things where I always thought I got along with
Speaker 2: her just fine. She's a girl's girl, she's whatever. I
Speaker 2: was always had nice things to say to her. But
Speaker 2: I guess she blames me.
Speaker 3: Well.
Speaker 1: I think the two of you were a lot alike
Speaker 1: in the round table. You're both very vocal.
Speaker 2: We're both we're outspoken, we're loud, and we talked too much.
Speaker 1: Yeah, she I was actually shocked. Larsa talked a lot,
Speaker 1: a lot in the round table, like she had opinions
Speaker 1: about everyone, and I was like, I never knew Larsa
Speaker 1: to be that outspoken, but she was.
Speaker 2: She was great. She was a good trainer, hunter.
Speaker 1: She was so let's get going. On episode five now,
Speaker 1: Fadri says Parverty threw her under the bus calling out
Speaker 1: the housewives, and Parverty says she did it to get
Speaker 1: rid of Larsa. Fadri says she pissed her off, and
Speaker 1: Parverty asked if she's pretending to be mad. Fadri says,
Speaker 1: she is an actress. Well, she's cheer. She's a little
Speaker 1: bit of an actress. Poverty apologized and Phaedra accepts. Padre
Speaker 1: says if she does this again, she knows she can't
Speaker 1: trust her. Dan is wondering how we can how he
Speaker 1: can use their fighting to his advantage. I feel like
Speaker 1: Dan is always I mean it heat if anybody's the
Speaker 1: selfish one.
Speaker 2: And that Dan his little confessionals about how he's he's
Speaker 2: working the seat, behind the scenes kind of stuff. It's like, okay,
Speaker 2: all right.
Speaker 1: Right, I get it. You're you're you're a mastermind. Yeah,
Speaker 1: Poverty makes a piece offering with Phaedra and finally says
Speaker 1: who to murder. They debate between Sandra and Tamra. Now,
Speaker 1: I was shocked when I got murdered. I felt like
Speaker 1: my name was not mentioned once, you know, at the
Speaker 1: roundtable about being bad target yes, and so I wrote
Speaker 1: you out No. So the the day that I got murdered,
Speaker 1: how it works is they put us in groups and
Speaker 1: we we go into the breakfast room, so we're all separated,
Speaker 1: we don't see each other. And when I'm in my group,
Speaker 1: it was fairly early when we got there, they just
Speaker 1: targeted me. They're like, Tamar, can you follow us? And
Speaker 1: I knew right then that I was done. I was gonzo.
Speaker 1: I was murdered, and I think I was with Sandra.
Speaker 1: I can't remember who else I was with, but I
Speaker 1: wanted to turn to them and say it's Dan. But
Speaker 1: I couldn't do that because there's no cameras. I didn't
Speaker 1: want to get in trouble. I would have got in
Speaker 1: trouble for it, for cheating. That would have been cheating, right, yeah, yeah, yeah, yes.
Speaker 1: So then the players meet for breakfast. Janelle and CT
Speaker 1: think one of the housewives is a trader? Did you
Speaker 1: think that? You didn't think Fadra at all?
Speaker 2: Was why CT started to get on my radar, because
Speaker 2: he wouldn't stop about the housewives. I'm like, it's not
Speaker 2: a housewife, and I wouldn't stop. He wouldn't stand. Poverty
Speaker 2: was doing the same exact thing to me. She was
Speaker 2: always I think it's a housewife. I think it's a housewife,
Speaker 2: and so I connected those two was like potentially working
Speaker 2: together because I don't I don't want to hear about
Speaker 2: the housewives anymore. We've we've heard enough. Well.
Speaker 1: As soon as Poverty threw out there last week that
Speaker 1: it's a housewife, I felt like CET's DEMI changed towards
Speaker 1: me and he would like talk to me and joke
Speaker 1: with me and stuff, and all of a sudden he
Speaker 1: was just so standoffish. Yeah, I'm like, wait, dude, what
Speaker 1: are you doing? But whatever. So we meet for breakfast
Speaker 1: and Pete says he's suspicious of Dan. I think at
Speaker 1: this point everybody is suspicious that Dan and I was right,
Speaker 1: and at this point we're gone. So from moving forward,
Speaker 1: I don't know what's going to happen. I don't know
Speaker 1: who's who who When who gets murdered or vanished? I
Speaker 1: don't know anything. So now I'm watching and you're watching
Speaker 1: as a viewer, so it's going to make it really
Speaker 1: interesting for this podcast. So of course it was me.
Speaker 1: I love that they murdered me. But they never put
Speaker 1: an X through my face.
Speaker 2: Oh they didn't.
Speaker 1: Yeah, you're right, they didn't. A couple of times they
Speaker 1: went back that day and they were looking at the
Speaker 1: wall and I'm like, oh, well, I guess in spirit
Speaker 1: I'm still there because they didn't put that big red
Speaker 1: X through that ugly picture of me.
Speaker 2: Gosh, you know what, though, camera at that breakfast meeting,
Speaker 2: when you we found out it was you, we were
Speaker 2: like that, like it's so obvious. She's a faithful, Like, oh,
Speaker 2: you really tricked us. We were like, this is the
Speaker 2: dumbest murder ever, Like this is so dumb, Like we
Speaker 2: just lost a faithful that's a known faithful. But it's
Speaker 2: not making anyone look less suspicious. It did not take
Speaker 2: the spotlight off of Dan, It did not take the
Speaker 2: spotlight off of poverty. Fadria's name was out there, you
Speaker 2: know it was, and it was just madness at that
Speaker 2: breakfast table.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I did question Phedro one day. I can't remember
Speaker 1: when it was, but I said to Phedro, you never
Speaker 1: talk game like anytime I'm around you. You don't. You're
Speaker 1: you're either oh ber delicious. Oh you know, She's always
Speaker 1: like talking about other things, and she's got such a
Speaker 1: huge personality that I'm like, why is she doing this?
Speaker 1: Why is why is she doing why isn't she talking?
Speaker 1: And then after that, slowly she started talking more game
Speaker 1: with me. Anyways, but I got a little emotional. I mean,
Speaker 1: it was a very hard trip for me because I
Speaker 1: was so sick and I was you know, if you
Speaker 1: would have asked me the day before, I would have
Speaker 1: said I'm ready to go home. I just I didn't
Speaker 1: feel well. But I was just starting to feel myself,
Speaker 1: you know. And when I had that talk with Dan
Speaker 1: the night before, I'm like, Dan, I'm ready, let's go.
Speaker 1: Let's play this game. Let's get aggressive. There's you know,
Speaker 1: all the big mouths are gone now, so let's do this.
Speaker 1: And then I got murdered.
Speaker 2: I did, what do you think that says about Fadro's
Speaker 2: game murdering you? Because it doesn't make sense from a
Speaker 2: game perspective for me, because you're a number on her side,
Speaker 2: So like I don't really think that's like the best
Speaker 2: move for Fader, but it's like really great for Dan. Imparv.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I was actually want to ask you that same
Speaker 1: question because I don't know, Like I'm not good at
Speaker 1: these games obviously, but I don't know. Like they said
Speaker 1: to confuse everybody.
Speaker 2: It didn't confuse anyone, not one person. We were just
Speaker 2: like they killed like the most faithful. It would be
Speaker 2: the same as killing MJ, because we knew MJ was faithful, right,
Speaker 2: It would be the same as killing Bergie. We know
Speaker 2: Bergie's faithful. So I didn't really point the finger in
Speaker 2: any other direction. It didn't really do anything. It wasn't.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean everybody at this point is very suspicious
Speaker 1: of Dan. I'm so curious, Like in my mind, I'm like, oh,
Speaker 1: he's he's murdered next week. I mean, he's banished next week.
Speaker 1: He has to be. Like everybody at this point is
Speaker 1: so vocal about it. And it was pretty funny when
Speaker 1: CT starts kind of asking him questions about his theory
Speaker 1: and Dan Dan does this like deer in the headlights. Well,
Speaker 1: I don't you know, it's not my personality to like
Speaker 1: just throw names out there. I have to be really sure.
Speaker 1: And you've played with him before, so you know his strategy.
Speaker 2: I know he Lind's ass off. I know. I'm like, okay,
Speaker 2: like we can still played this little cat and most game, Like,
Speaker 2: I don't know how much longer I can do this.
Speaker 2: That's what I'm thinking, because when I'm looking at the table,
Speaker 2: like everyone's literally talking about Dan being a Trader, and
Speaker 2: I'm just like, dude, I cannot work with this man
Speaker 2: anymore because they are gunning for him. The people that
Speaker 2: I'm working with are gunning for him.
Speaker 1: Yeah. Yeah. So the next we go on to Kevin.
Speaker 1: Kevin says Janelle gave him Trader vibes and wants to
Speaker 1: get her banished. He says, every banishment starts with her
Speaker 1: leading the vote. Well, I mean, I think you're you
Speaker 1: are very vocal out there, and you have a lot
Speaker 1: to say and you have a lot of good points.
Speaker 1: And sorry Kevin if you didn't.
Speaker 2: But I felt like my thing with Larsa made sense
Speaker 2: because it's all we had to go on. Yeah, right,
Speaker 2: I thought, Okay, I'm looking for a place and a
Speaker 2: time where we were all eating and drinking at the
Speaker 2: same exact time, and how we would all eat or
Speaker 2: drink something at the same time. Breakfast was the only
Speaker 2: thing I could think of in the cheers. Yeah, it
Speaker 2: wasn't mad of a theory.
Speaker 1: No, it's not a bad theory, especially when you have nothing,
Speaker 1: especially since we were so blindsided by this mission and
Speaker 1: you know this this poisoning and we didn't know we
Speaker 1: would So, I mean, I thought Kevin, because Kevin was
Speaker 1: eating and he wouldn't stop eating, and I'm like, I
Speaker 1: don't know, you know, did they drink something, did they
Speaker 1: have to eat something? I don't know, I don't know.
Speaker 1: But like Kate says, like, why would you ever have
Speaker 1: somebody give you a glass of wine and drink it?
Speaker 1: How dumb?
Speaker 2: Are you? Supid?
Speaker 1: I know, I know. So for today's mission, I'd have
Speaker 1: to say I would have loved this mission.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I really loved it. Yeah, like GOC.
Speaker 1: Like all these bird calls items so funny. So the
Speaker 1: players will split up in two groups, playing inside and outside.
Speaker 1: Players outside can earn a shield. They will work in
Speaker 1: pairs to identify calls and match with birds. Inside the castle,
Speaker 1: Toshelle and Bergie pair up. Toschelle sends in the first
Speaker 1: or twenty five hundred dollars. They did really well, they
Speaker 1: did great. You know, it didn't do well Kevin and Charret. Yes,
Speaker 1: I mean, I don't think Amazing Race is going to
Speaker 1: be calling them anytime soon.
Speaker 2: It was so bad. It was so comical. I think
Speaker 2: they even played like clown music while they were running around.
Speaker 1: But that probably would have been me because I'm not
Speaker 1: good at reading maps either. Are we shocked at this
Speaker 1: point that John's still in the show, And at this.
Speaker 2: Point I think the whole breathing thing with John is
Speaker 2: just like so funny, I know at this point for
Speaker 2: me personally, Like I'm working with John at this point
Speaker 2: because I'm like, I've identified him as a faithful because
Speaker 2: of all of the reasons why people would be traders.
Speaker 1: Well, yeah, I mean at first, you know, obviously the
Speaker 1: breathing thing was hilarious at the time, but that's all
Speaker 1: we had to go off of. So we're like, Okay,
Speaker 1: it's John, It's gotta be John, Oh my god. But
Speaker 1: Kevin and Charat want to find a shield first but
Speaker 1: can't read the map. It's great, Jskellesend's in the next
Speaker 1: bird call winning themselves shields Kevin and Charat send over
Speaker 1: their first bird call that sounds like a dog. Poverty
Speaker 1: finds a bird and earns five thousand dollars for the pot.
Speaker 1: Peter says that all the traders in the house now
Speaker 1: are assuming they're going for the shields. Peter thinks they
Speaker 1: should let the traders waste the murder and not say
Speaker 1: who won the shield. This will create a blanket of
Speaker 1: protection for the faithfuls. Now, do you think this was
Speaker 1: a smart strategy?
Speaker 2: Yeah? I mean so we had talked about going for Dan,
Speaker 2: like John, Bergie and Peter were very passionate about putting
Speaker 2: Dan's name out there. And I said, you guys, if
Speaker 2: I'm doing this, like I have to go for a shield,
Speaker 2: we are so aft. If we go for Dan and
Speaker 2: miss we're screwed. Yeah, we're playing shields. And it was
Speaker 2: literally a dogfight, and it was Peter's I was so stressed.
Speaker 2: He was like, look, let's do this move and it
Speaker 2: doesn't matter who gets it. We can all six of
Speaker 2: us will be safe, even Charie and Kevin, who just
Speaker 2: wanted to vote me out. But I was like, that's
Speaker 2: a fantastic idea. The more faithfuls we can keep safe
Speaker 2: the better for us. They potentially miss a murder and
Speaker 2: then we have the more faithfuls in the game.
Speaker 1: Now, do you think that he told too many people?
Speaker 1: I think he should have just told Dan that.
Speaker 2: No, he should not have told Dan. He is always
Speaker 2: kind of working with poverty more than Dan.
Speaker 1: So okay, so maybe just one. But he was so
Speaker 1: certain that Dan was a trader. Like telling two, then
Speaker 1: you like take that chance of what happened. Well, Parvey's
Speaker 1: like no.
Speaker 2: He's yeah, but he definitely knew. He was very onto
Speaker 2: poverty and he was working more with poverty. And I
Speaker 2: was like, just tell Poverty, please, do not tell anyone else.
Speaker 2: I don't think I do not agree with that, and
Speaker 2: he was like, didn't listen. I just did it anyway.
Speaker 1: Yeah, now Peter Thingsbergie is the next target for murder.
Speaker 1: So Peter plans on telling a white lie to the
Speaker 1: people he suspects to be a trader that he and
Speaker 1: Janelle won the shields. Peter tells CT Dan and Parverty.
Speaker 1: I mean we just talked about that. He should have
Speaker 1: just told either Dan or Poverty. I think just one
Speaker 1: or the other, you know, but I'm dying to know
Speaker 1: what happens.
Speaker 2: What happens. So I mean, obviously I know, I can't
Speaker 2: say I think Peter's brilliant. Yes for me play. I
Speaker 2: woke up that day also though tamer, and I was like,
Speaker 2: you had been murdered. I was just like feeling so low.
Speaker 2: I also felt like a little bit of anger towards
Speaker 2: Dan because I felt like he had kind of framed
Speaker 2: me for Eckensue's murder, even though he had nothing to
Speaker 2: do with poisoning at can Sue. I blamed him. So
Speaker 2: I was like, I feel like I'm dead today anyway.
Speaker 2: And I was like so on board with just like
Speaker 2: saving the faithfuls that were left in the game that
Speaker 2: I was working with.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I love when you said Dan plays possum.
Speaker 2: It does. Yeah, absolutely, Yeah.
Speaker 1: See I see that now.
Speaker 2: Yeah. His That's how I knew he was a trader
Speaker 2: right away too. Was like typical Dan tells like looking
Speaker 2: at me, trying to get information and then just like
Speaker 2: scurrying away. Usually when he's really into working with you,
Speaker 2: he'll hang out for a little bit longer. And it
Speaker 2: was just so obvious to me. I'm like, oh my god,
Speaker 2: these people have no idea.
Speaker 1: Yeah. I mean, like I said, my plan was I
Speaker 1: mean we got really close. You didn't see too much
Speaker 1: of it because it was a lot of off camera.
Speaker 1: We had a lot of downtime. So we would sit
Speaker 1: there and talk and he would just like almost like
Speaker 1: pull up my heart strings, like talk about how much
Speaker 1: he loves his wife and all these things.
Speaker 3: Now I'm looking back, I'm like, oh my god, I'm
Speaker 3: so stupid. He was working you big time, big time,
Speaker 3: big time. He wants to put that like get that
Speaker 3: barrier down from you or feel your best friend. And
Speaker 3: you know him so well, so he if you notice
Speaker 3: with Dan, he's going to ask you a ton of questions,
Speaker 3: but you're not really going to know that much about Dan,
Speaker 3: like anything. He's going to ask you everything, but the
Speaker 3: how many kids you have?
Speaker 2: How old are they? What schools would they go to?
Speaker 2: Like He'll keep going and going. It's a great way
Speaker 2: to get people to open up and potentially the like
Speaker 2: just manipulate them.
Speaker 1: Or have to manipulate yes, and use whatever they say
Speaker 1: against them. So you say it's obvious that Dan is
Speaker 1: a trader, Kevin says that that you are. Janelle is
Speaker 1: either a trader or is sloppy faithful and getting rid
Speaker 1: of her will help them narrow it down. Janelle says
Speaker 1: they all need to agree on someone. MJ says Janelle
Speaker 1: has gotten her hands dirty and is win cutthroat, accusing
Speaker 1: people of being traders. MJ tails Dan that Janelle is
Speaker 1: gunning hard for him. Dan says Janelle is very capable
Speaker 1: of getting him banished tonight, so he must steer votes
Speaker 1: away from him. Dan and Poverty decide they need to
Speaker 1: take out Chanel. Poor Janelle.
Speaker 2: I don't care. I knew, I knew the vote to anything.
Speaker 2: Because MJ was like, I'm not voting for you tonight.
Speaker 2: I'm like, okay, Like I don't have the I don't
Speaker 2: have Bravo, Like it's clear.
Speaker 1: Right, But how did you feel at that time? Were
Speaker 1: you like like you really wanted to win the game,
Speaker 1: or were you like, you know what, it was great experience.
Speaker 1: You know, I met people, I'm out.
Speaker 2: I knew that I was getting banished, and I figured,
Speaker 2: you know what, I'm going to go with the freakin'
Speaker 2: bang A blast and explosion. I'm going to put everything
Speaker 2: on the line. I'm going to out Dan. I will
Speaker 2: out anyone at this point that I think is a trader.
Speaker 2: And I actually named four people as traders at the table,
Speaker 2: which a lot of people disagree with. But again, I'm
Speaker 2: just trying to make a TV. I'm just trying to
Speaker 2: put it all out there. And I think I did.
Speaker 2: I mean I it was forty minutes of fighting edited
Speaker 2: down to two minutes.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I was going to ask you about that.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's like forty minutes of back and forth and
Speaker 2: it's just like two little minutes. There was so much said,
Speaker 2: There were so many, so many people calling out different people.
Speaker 2: Dan's name was not the only one out there. My
Speaker 2: name was not the only name out there. It was
Speaker 2: a mess.
Speaker 1: Okay, So what did you think when a new player
Speaker 1: is joining the roundtable tonight? So they make this big surprise.
Speaker 1: They did a great little entrance to Kate with showing
Speaker 1: her gloves and her getting out of the car and
Speaker 1: surprise Kate Chastain. Now, obviously you watched last season, you
Speaker 1: saw how she played. Kevin says Janelle is possibly a trader,
Speaker 1: rally everyone to shift their vote to. Janelle says she
Speaker 1: is not the mastermind.
Speaker 2: He thinks she is.
Speaker 1: Now they all start voting and Kate votes for.
Speaker 2: You, right, yeah, uh huh?
Speaker 1: Why do you think she voted for you she's voting
Speaker 1: with MJ, so she was MJ's buddy on this.
Speaker 2: Oh yeah. MJ even told me that in the Castle
Speaker 2: she had reached out to Kate before she even did
Speaker 2: Traders to get advice, so I knew they knew each other.
Speaker 2: Now Kate walked like, this is actually really annoying and horrible.
Speaker 2: Dan and I are both trying to save our lives
Speaker 2: and this person will do nothing for my case at
Speaker 2: my banishment because it's just it's like another vote and
Speaker 2: she's walking into so much information. It was kind of
Speaker 2: an awkward time. It was like I was basically like
Speaker 2: I love you, but like can you come back later?
Speaker 1: Yeah? Now, did it feel weird having somebody thrown in
Speaker 1: mid I mean, you guys have all been working our
Speaker 1: asses off trying to figure out who the traders are?
Speaker 1: Was it did you feel like what the hell? Like
Speaker 1: we've been working for weeks now, and now you just
Speaker 1: throw Kate chesting in this game and you're like, if
Speaker 1: she wins, I'm gonna be really pissed off, Like I
Speaker 1: would be thinking that.
Speaker 2: I was more annoyed that it was my banishment because
Speaker 2: my back is against the wall, like my neck is
Speaker 2: like I'm fighting for my life and they add a
Speaker 2: new player and I was like, oh my god, this
Speaker 2: is the worst freaking timing ever to add a new
Speaker 2: player to this game. And it's in the middle of
Speaker 2: a game where we were, i mean putting it all
Speaker 2: on the line, like I've never been this vocal at
Speaker 2: a banishment in my life. Like I'm literally telling these people,
Speaker 2: I'm giving you a traitor and it's just not happening.
Speaker 1: So five episodes and and no traders have been found
Speaker 1: at this point. It's just crazy. So r at the roundtable.
Speaker 1: Five votes for Dan, nine votes for you, and they
Speaker 1: are banishing you. Let's talk about your little fight you
Speaker 1: got into with Sandra. Okay, was it worse at the
Speaker 1: table than what we saw on TV.
Speaker 2: There was some fighting with Parverty too that they edited
Speaker 2: out the fight. I had it both ways. I was
Speaker 2: fighting Parverty and then Sandra stepped in, and then I
Speaker 2: just started fighting Sandra. So it was a freaking mess,
Speaker 2: and the whole fight actually started over. I said in
Speaker 2: the beginning of the banishment, like, I know that the
Speaker 2: six people playing for Shields were faithful, and Sandra was like,
Speaker 2: so you mean to tell me that every every single
Speaker 2: person playing for birds in the house. The traders are
Speaker 2: in the house. And I said, yes, I know with
Speaker 2: my whole heart the traders are in that group. They
Speaker 2: are not playing for shields. And she goes, that's just stupid.
Speaker 2: I don't agree. I think you're a trader for saying that.
Speaker 2: And that's when I was like, Sandra's got to be
Speaker 2: a trader. I'm like, and she and then she said, oh,
Speaker 2: and by the way, Janelle me, Dan and Parvid always
Speaker 2: had your back. And I was like, oh, hell no,
Speaker 2: because I already Dan and Harvedy were traders. I'm like,
Speaker 2: for sure, then she's the other one, for sure. Yeah.
Speaker 1: I was suspicious of Sandra the entire time. I was like,
Speaker 1: she could be the perfect trader because she was so
Speaker 1: nice and sweet, a little bit quiet, and I thought,
Speaker 1: and you know, she won. Was she she was on?
Speaker 1: Was she on Survivor? Right?
Speaker 2: I think Sandra's playing an incredible, like faithful game, but
Speaker 2: it's also one of those games where it's like, are
Speaker 2: you really going to go to the end of the
Speaker 2: game with Sandra? Sandra from Survivor. So, I mean a
Speaker 2: lot of people I think were just naturally suspicious of her,
Speaker 2: which they shouldn't have been because she, I mean, duh,
Speaker 2: she was a faithful So.
Speaker 1: Yes, So Peter tells Kevin, Bergie and John that he
Speaker 1: told CT, Dan and Poverty about the shields to throw
Speaker 1: them off. Peter says, this is potentially confirmed if any
Speaker 1: of them are traders. So explain that to people, because
Speaker 1: there's a lot that goes into this.
Speaker 2: There's so much strategy. So basically we had the Faithful Alliance,
Speaker 2: and I know there's other Faithfuls, but our alliance was
Speaker 2: called the Faithfuls. We all had different opinions on who
Speaker 2: those other those other traders were. We always thought there
Speaker 2: was four, so you know, maybe Peter thought Fedra, I
Speaker 2: thought Sandra, Trichelle thought it could have been Sureay, and
Speaker 2: John always said like, oh, I think it's Sandra. So
Speaker 2: there was so many different opinions on who that I was.
Speaker 2: And then another name thrown up with CT. So it
Speaker 2: was like, Okay, we're looking at four people. And he
Speaker 2: just felt like if he put it on those three
Speaker 2: people and talk to them, if you know, obviously if
Speaker 2: they do, what if they if he gets to trick them,
Speaker 2: then he knows that the information that he gave he
Speaker 2: was talking to a trader is basically like a trick.
Speaker 1: How do you compare the competition shows that you have
Speaker 1: been on to traders? Like, is it harder different?
Speaker 2: I find traders to be harder in the sense that
Speaker 2: you have to make decisions really really quick, whereas big
Speaker 2: your brother, you have so much time to strategize, so
Speaker 2: like the moves could be like bigger and more showy,
Speaker 2: but you have a week to think about it. Here
Speaker 2: it's it's, you know, playing a fast game like Traders.
Speaker 2: You have to be on your feet and think so quick,
Speaker 2: and the move might be sloppy, but like you're just
Speaker 2: doing it in the moment. You don't have time to
Speaker 2: think about it. Really.
Speaker 1: Yeah, well, one thing you did a lot was think
Speaker 1: because I would look at you and your eyes were
Speaker 1: just glazed across the room and I could just see
Speaker 1: you were thinking. You were just thinking about your next move.
Speaker 2: I was always thinking about, like who the traders are?
Speaker 2: I was trader hunting every day.
Speaker 1: I was you know, is there anything you would have
Speaker 1: done different?
Speaker 2: Something I would have done different. I probably wouldn't have targeted.
Speaker 2: I feel like I shouldn't have targeted Sandra because it
Speaker 2: did hurt her game. I feel like and that, do
Speaker 2: you feel really bad about being val about her at
Speaker 2: the round table when she was just fighting. I think
Speaker 2: she was just protecting poverty to protect her, and I
Speaker 2: took that as a sign of her just being a
Speaker 2: trader when she was just protecting her. So maybe not
Speaker 2: say Sandra's name with the roundtable.
Speaker 1: Yeah, So Dan is shifting from defense mode to aggressive mode,
Speaker 1: which is funny because I feel like that's something me
Speaker 1: and Dan talked about in the kitchen that they did
Speaker 1: not show. It's time for us to get more aggressive.
Speaker 1: So I would say I'm glad he took my advice
Speaker 1: and once to decide the murder tonight. Uh Phaedrian Parvety
Speaker 1: ask who Dan will throw under the bus tomorrow and
Speaker 1: Dan says he needs to sleep on it.
Speaker 2: Uh.
Speaker 1: Parvety and Dan both say Peter told them who has
Speaker 1: the child. Parvety says Peter must be lying and trying
Speaker 1: to trick them. She was quick at that to figure
Speaker 1: that out, like it.
Speaker 2: She plays with hidden immunity idol, So she's gonna know
Speaker 2: that when someone they can fake you, they can say, well,
Speaker 2: don't vote for me tonight, I've got a hidden immunity idol.
Speaker 2: But she plays like that all the time.
Speaker 1: Oh okay, so she's got that dances Peter is not
Speaker 1: that savvy. Parvety says they need to choose someone who
Speaker 1: wasn't outside. Dan says they need to take out Bergie.
Speaker 1: Parvety suggest John and Dan say say they need to
Speaker 1: roll the dice on Bergie. I hope they don't get
Speaker 1: rid of Bergie many. Parvety is nervous about it.
Speaker 2: I know that Bergie is gunning for Dan though. I mean,
Speaker 2: and I worked with Bergie. I know that he was
Speaker 2: very vocal after my banishment. He was shouting things that
Speaker 2: aren't even on camera. He was like, I'm coming for
Speaker 2: you Dan, Like Burgie is literally coming for Dan. So
Speaker 2: Dan's nervous about that.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 2: I mean.
Speaker 1: With Kate thrown back into the mix, I think it's
Speaker 1: going to get really interesting. I loved her on the
Speaker 1: first season. Just her no nonsense, doesn't give a shit
Speaker 1: personality is going to make it really interesting. I'm shocked
Speaker 1: they didn't bring her in as a trader, but maybe
Speaker 1: that would have been too obvious too.
Speaker 2: That's not fair.
Speaker 1: Yeah, you're right.
Speaker 2: Yeah, targets on himself and then say, oh, by the way,
Speaker 2: we're going to give you the most powerful position in
Speaker 2: the game too. Yeah, I don't know.
Speaker 1: I just thought that maybe because she wasn't a trader
Speaker 1: the first season, and I thought maybe they just threw
Speaker 1: this bone, but I figured it'd be too much power. Yeah.
Speaker 1: So Dan in closing, Dan says this murder will win
Speaker 1: him the game or in the entire thing, and that's yeah.
Speaker 1: So that's episode five, guys. I mean, the show is
Speaker 1: just heating up. It's so good. I can't even believe that.
Speaker 1: I mean, I think it's gonna win an Emmy, I
Speaker 1: really do, absolutely.
Speaker 2: I mean each week is getting better and better. I
Speaker 2: think even the people that are new to competition shows,
Speaker 2: they're doing better and better every week. I mean, this
Speaker 2: is like shocking, It's like a nail bier. It's anyone's
Speaker 2: game at this point. I'm just like, so here for it.
Speaker 1: Yeah, who do you talk to? I'm gonna guess you
Speaker 1: don't talk to Larsa.
Speaker 2: I don't't talk to Larsa. I do follow her though,
Speaker 2: and I like her pictures on Instagram, but I think does.
Speaker 1: She follow you back?
Speaker 2: No? Never, I talk to Bergie. I've talked to Bergie,
Speaker 2: Peter Trachelle uh sometimes Dan. I talk to Sandra a lot.
Speaker 2: I talk to Sandra, Oh you do that's chat?
Speaker 1: I like chat with certain people on Instagram. The only
Speaker 1: one that I don't talk to Cet. I just saw that.
Speaker 1: Does he have a new show coming out?
Speaker 2: Yeah?
Speaker 1: Yeah? Is it the Challenge or is it something different?
Speaker 1: So it's like a new it's like like a new
Speaker 1: version of.
Speaker 2: It, version of it or like whatever, the best of
Speaker 2: the best kind of thing.
Speaker 1: Yeah, what do you think if you could do another
Speaker 1: competition show? What do you what would you.
Speaker 2: Do another competition show? Which I'm getting up there in age,
Speaker 2: I don't know, if I still got it, I would do.
Speaker 2: I love games on a strategy and like Alliance Building.
Speaker 2: I would love to do.
Speaker 1: Like Dealer No Deal Island or.
Speaker 2: A game similar to Traders.
Speaker 1: Like I feel like I don't.
Speaker 2: Want to play Survivor. That sounds horrible.
Speaker 1: That sounds horrible.
Speaker 2: Yeah, like absolutely, I don't want to play Brother again.
Speaker 2: That's horrible. Anything short and sweet would be up my own.
Speaker 1: Right, Short and sweet, That's what I was saying, Like
Speaker 1: to do something. We're gone for almost a month. That's hard.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's too much, too much time.
Speaker 1: Kids and a husband and all that But anyways, thank
Speaker 1: you so much for co hosting. I hope I'm going
Speaker 1: to be seeing you again.
Speaker 2: I love seeing you. I was so devastated, so I'm
Speaker 2: glad that I'm honestly, the silver lin is that at
Speaker 2: least we're on the same episode and we die in
Speaker 2: the same episode.
Speaker 1: I know with you, I know it's amazing. But you guys,
Speaker 1: if you haven't watched, you got to tune in. It
Speaker 1: is so good. It's about to heat up. And I'm
Speaker 1: just praying that they get a Trader next week.
Speaker 2: Have to get a trader running out of daze big time.
Speaker 1: Yeah. Did you happen to get to do the Traders
Speaker 1: Experience down in La No?
Speaker 2: No, I wasn't there.
Speaker 1: Yeah. It was so cool. It was so cool.
Speaker 2: Really yeah.
Speaker 1: They had it open to the public as well. I
Speaker 1: think it's gone now, but you were able to go
Speaker 1: into this house it's old house in LA and they
Speaker 1: had like just like a mock version of the show,
Speaker 1: a mini version of the show. It was really fun,
Speaker 1: really really fun.
Speaker 2: I know that fans are just loving it. It's such
Speaker 2: a hot show right now. Everyone wants to play Traders,
Speaker 2: like it's just.
Speaker 1: So did you get a lot of people sending your
Speaker 1: messages like I'm so bombed you're gone.
Speaker 2: You were like this is horrible, Like I'm not watching
Speaker 2: the show anymore, like this up. And I'm like you
Speaker 2: have to keep watching the show, like all of our
Speaker 2: deaths will make it worth it in the ends.
Speaker 1: Yeah. Yeah, I can't wait to say who wins in
Speaker 1: the very end. But thank you, Janelle, thank you, I appreciate.
Speaker 2: Thank you so much for having me camera.
Speaker 1: Yes always, Okay, love you, love you too, and I'll
Speaker 1: see you soon.
Speaker 2: All right, I'll see you soon.
Speaker 1: Bye bye.