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Speaker 1: You're listening to Talking Traders with Me Tamra Judge. Hey, guys,

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Speaker 1: welcome to another episode of Talking Traders with Tamra. I

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Speaker 1: have a co host, of course, one that was on

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Speaker 1: last week that was so good that we brought her back,

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Speaker 1: and that is Janelle.

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Speaker 2: Hi. Janelle, Hey, Tamra, thanks for having me again.

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Speaker 1: Yes, I have to tell you. I just flew in

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Speaker 1: from San Francisco. I was out late. We had our

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Speaker 1: live show and I am beat. So I'm really gonna

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Speaker 1: lean on you, girl, I really am go.

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Speaker 2: Oh my gosh, that was so sad. Last episode. Oh

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Speaker 2: just brutal.

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Speaker 1: I know, I know there's some missing parts to it.

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Speaker 1: We're going to get to it. But I was. I

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Speaker 1: found out who actually was behind murdering me as I

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Speaker 1: was about to walk on stage in front of five

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Speaker 1: hundred people in San Francisco. So all this time I

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Speaker 1: thought it was Dan. I thought Dan behind it. But

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Speaker 1: let me tell you why. You know, I said last

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Speaker 1: week I had suspicion that Dan was a trader, and

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Speaker 1: people gave me so much shit on social media saying

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Speaker 1: if you thought he was a trader, then why didn't

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Speaker 1: you just call him out and me and you talked

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Speaker 1: about this. It's just not that easy. It's a strategy

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Speaker 1: and you can't just go oh, you know, you have

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Speaker 1: different suspicions all the time. But Dan was somebody that

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Speaker 1: I really thought was a trader. But me and Dan

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Speaker 1: were really close, and I thought it's some in my

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Speaker 1: crazy mind that he would recruit me because he liked me.

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Speaker 1: I mean, he would talk to me about his wife

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Speaker 1: and his kids, and all the off time we had,

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Speaker 1: we would sit there and talk. Dan and I had

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Speaker 1: a conversation at last, the last fifteen minutes, like what

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Speaker 1: is eleven o'clock? The bell rings and everybody's got to

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Speaker 1: go to bed. So we had a conversation. I said, Dan,

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Speaker 1: do you trust me? He's like yes, Now this wasn't shown,

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Speaker 1: and he says, yes, do you trust me? I said yeah.

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Speaker 1: I said, I just want to let you know because

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Speaker 1: I've been so sick. I've been so quiet, but I've

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Speaker 1: been able to observe a lot of things, and you

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Speaker 1: are getting blamed for being so quiet. I think it's

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Speaker 1: time that we band together and we get aggressive. Okay,

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Speaker 1: And I said that Tony, I don't know. Yes, Tamra, yes,

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Speaker 1: you know, don't repeat anything. I tell you, Tamara, I

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Speaker 1: won't repeat anything you tell me, on and on and on.

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Speaker 1: So I thought, well, if anything, if I stay close

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Speaker 1: to him, like you know, keep your friends closer, your

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Speaker 1: enemy's closer, right, thought it was one of those things.

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Speaker 1: So the next morning I was murdered, and so in

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Speaker 1: my mind I thought it was Dan. Dan has been

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Speaker 1: trying to reach out to me. It's not what you think,

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Speaker 1: you know, he knew, like, oh my god, this is

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Speaker 1: gonna Tamar's gonna hate me, which I know. It's a game,

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Speaker 1: but you get a little invested in it.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, oh yeah, you do, yeah, big time.

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Speaker 1: You get a little invested in it, and sometimes it

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Speaker 1: pisses you off, which leads me to this. I'm gonna

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Speaker 1: play a little clip for you, Janelle, and I need

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Speaker 1: you to explain this one.

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Speaker 2: Okay, okay, housewives are just trying to get both together

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Speaker 2: to get someone out of the game. I don't think

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Speaker 2: there's a strategy behind their voting at all. People keep

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Speaker 2: throwing the housewives out there as traders. Let's just be real.

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Speaker 2: They don't have the skill or the strategy to have

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Speaker 2: this mastermind about who to murder. And then you left,

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Speaker 2: and then I left, But I really don't think it

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Speaker 2: was Faedra pulling all the strings. I mean, do you,

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Speaker 2: because all the murders to me led to Dan. I

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Speaker 2: wouldn't have those murders never led to Fedra. She was

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Speaker 2: never really her hands were so not dirty in this game.

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Speaker 1: But you're not answering the question to know it was

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Speaker 1: let's be real, they don't have the skill, They're not

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Speaker 2: Oh well, okay, so you know who I was talking

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Speaker 2: about when I said that, because there's one housewife where

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Speaker 2: I just really couldn't work with. I didn't know what

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Speaker 2: And that person is Charret. I for sure crossed her

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Speaker 2: off as definitely not being a trader, so it was

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Speaker 2: a process of elimination for me. Larsa. We had just

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Speaker 1: You.

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Speaker 2: I knew you were a faithful, So I was like,

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Speaker 2: Tarma is a freaking faithful and that's why I think

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Speaker 2: you were murdered. You were murdered because you would have

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Speaker 2: And as I said at the beginning, I trusted Faedra

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Speaker 2: woman is that good. She is playing better than Dan

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Speaker 2: Geeseley who have played Big Brother with. I mean I

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Speaker 2: I would have never thought she was a trader.

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Speaker 1: Well, Phaedra has that effect on people, that's for sure.

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Speaker 1: She's playing a great game, playing a great game. When

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Speaker 1: I found out last night that it was her, I

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Speaker 1: sent her a little devil emoji and she sent me

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Speaker 1: back praying. She sent me back praying hands.

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Speaker 2: Oh my goodness.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, I really thought that I'm just giving you

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Speaker 2: I know. A lot of my blame note was always

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Speaker 2: Dan in Parver. You know that, So I'm like Dan.

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Speaker 1: Oh yeah, but now watching Dan play, like the look

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Speaker 1: on his face and the bad acting.

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Speaker 2: Yeah yeah, so it really it wasn't a dig at

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Speaker 2: the Housewives. It was more of like a process of

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Speaker 2: elimination and who I think is a trader?

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Speaker 1: That's yeah, well today we sit before you, murdered and

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Speaker 1: banished all in the same episode.

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Speaker 2: I mean it was meant to be, you know.

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Speaker 1: I know I am. I'm a little bit bummed that

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Speaker 1: I didn't get to work with Kate Chesting.

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Speaker 2: Oh my gosh, I know she would have been such

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Speaker 2: a good, faithful to work with. I know.

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Speaker 1: So I have a question for you. How does it

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Speaker 1: feel to be on the number one unscripted series in

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Speaker 2: Oh, my gosh, I mean so exciting. I guess I'm

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Speaker 2: not that surprised because of the caliber of cast they

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Speaker 1: It's crazy. I'm wondering if they're going to continue with

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Speaker 1: I guess you would call it celebrity casts, or they're

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Speaker 1: going to go back to Yeah, I'm curious. I think

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Speaker 1: they're pasting for season three.

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Speaker 2: Oh absolutely, I heard they were. But I don't think

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Speaker 2: that the season with so many like regular people mixed

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I agree. I think that you have to have

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Speaker 2: Just absolutely yeah. I think the cast of non celebrities

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Speaker 2: would be would be fun though, to watch how these

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Speaker 1: I watched the Australian version. If you guys haven't you

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Speaker 1: there's like a UK version, Australian version, a US version.

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Speaker 1: They're all really good. And the I think it was

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Speaker 1: the Australian one. They had just you know, just regular people,

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Speaker 1: not that we're not regular people, but you know what

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Speaker 1: I mean, non celebrity people, and it was really good.

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Speaker 2: I thought the UK favorite.

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Speaker 1: But yes, oh really the UK is your favorite?

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Speaker 2: Oh my gosh, the UK is so good because the

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Speaker 2: tradering is so good. The faithful well, I'm not going

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Speaker 2: to spoil it for you, but the trader wil Fin,

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Speaker 2: it is so good. He's so convincing.

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Speaker 1: I got. I never finished watching the Australian one. I

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Speaker 1: was just studying it before I went.

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Speaker 2: To Yeah, Scot smart your homework. I'm good.

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Speaker 1: Yeah. So have you got any negative feedback from the show?

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Speaker 1: I know we talked and you're like, oh my god,

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Speaker 1: the Housewife fans are crazy, like they like you've had

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Speaker 1: you've had to block people.

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Speaker 2: I did block some people. They're they're really mean. Some

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Speaker 2: of the CBS fans are fighting with the Bravo people

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Speaker 2: and you know, if we say anything or you know,

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Speaker 2: there was some Larsa stuff. I'm like, I mean, I

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Speaker 2: thought lars and I were good, but no, the Housewife

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Speaker 2: fans are very passionate, and they're very vocal, and.

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Speaker 1: Sometimes sometimes sometimes I'm not very kind, but speaking, I'm

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Speaker 1: not very kind. Larsa Pippens says Janelle was jealous of

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Speaker 1: her screen time on The Traders, so EW did an

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Speaker 1: article about it, and here's some of her quotes. Larsa's

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Speaker 1: quoted saying, I think Janelle was upset that I was

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Speaker 1: The Real Housewives of Miami star says Janelle responded to

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Speaker 1: this article with a tweet that said, this can't be real.

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Speaker 1: Janelle tweeted with laughing crying emojis. The only reason I

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Speaker 1: Also definitely not voting out CT. Larsa quoted this about Sandra.

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Speaker 1: I mean, I don't necessarily think I run the Housewives.

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Speaker 1: I think I'm probably more vocal, but I was mind

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Speaker 1: boggled when I heard Sandra say that I look ten

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Speaker 2: I'm not psychic. I have no ability psychic ability to

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Speaker 2: be like, I know, Lar's just going to steal my

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Speaker 1: That sense yeah, I mean yeah, but it's just funny.

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Speaker 1: You guys have this banter going back and forth. Did

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Speaker 1: you not? You got along? You guys got along for

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Speaker 2: Fine? I mean I thought we were good. But I

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Speaker 2: think she may blame me for her banishment, although I

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Speaker 2: I definitely voted her out though, and said some things

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Speaker 2: of the banishment, But you know, it was one of

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Speaker 2: her just fine. She's a girl's girl, she's whatever. I

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Speaker 2: was always had nice things to say to her. But

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Speaker 2: I guess she blames me.

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Speaker 3: Well.

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Speaker 1: I think the two of you were a lot alike

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Speaker 1: in the round table. You're both very vocal.

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Speaker 2: We're both we're outspoken, we're loud, and we talked too much.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, she I was actually shocked. Larsa talked a lot,

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Speaker 1: about everyone, and I was like, I never knew Larsa

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Speaker 2: She was great. She was a good trainer, hunter.

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Speaker 1: She was so let's get going. On episode five now,

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Speaker 1: Fadri says Parverty threw her under the bus calling out

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Speaker 1: the housewives, and Parverty says she did it to get

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Speaker 1: Parverty asked if she's pretending to be mad. Fadri says,

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Speaker 1: bit of an actress. Poverty apologized and Phaedra accepts. Padre

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Speaker 1: Right, I get it. You're you're you're a mastermind. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: Gosh, you know what, though, camera at that breakfast meeting,

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Speaker 2: I did, what do you think that says about Fadro's

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Speaker 2: game murdering you? Because it doesn't make sense from a

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Speaker 2: It would be the same as killing Bergie. We know

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean everybody at this point is very suspicious

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Speaker 1: leading the vote. Well, I mean, I think you're you

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Speaker 2: But I felt like my thing with Larsa made sense

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Speaker 1: I know, I know. So for today's mission, I'd have

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Speaker 1: Peter says that all the traders in the house now

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Speaker 1: Now, do you think that he told too many people?

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Speaker 1: I think he should have just told Dan that.

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Speaker 2: No, he should not have told Dan. He is always

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Speaker 1: So okay, so maybe just one. But he was so

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Speaker 1: you like take that chance of what happened. Well, Parvey's

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Speaker 1: Yeah, now Peter Thingsbergie is the next target for murder.

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Speaker 1: people he suspects to be a trader that he and

429
00:22:07,840 --> 00:22:11,200
Speaker 1: Janelle won the shields. Peter tells CT Dan and Parverty.

430
00:22:11,960 --> 00:22:15,159
Speaker 1: I mean we just talked about that. He should have

431
00:22:15,240 --> 00:22:17,760
Speaker 1: just told either Dan or Poverty. I think just one

432
00:22:17,840 --> 00:22:19,760
Speaker 1: or the other, you know, but I'm dying to know

433
00:22:20,920 --> 00:22:22,119
Speaker 1: what happens.

434
00:22:22,520 --> 00:22:26,480
Speaker 2: What happens. So I mean, obviously I know, I can't

435
00:22:26,520 --> 00:22:32,399
Speaker 2: say I think Peter's brilliant. Yes for me play. I

436
00:22:32,480 --> 00:22:34,600
Speaker 2: woke up that day also though tamer, and I was like,

437
00:22:34,760 --> 00:22:36,920
Speaker 2: you had been murdered. I was just like feeling so low.

438
00:22:37,480 --> 00:22:39,679
Speaker 2: I also felt like a little bit of anger towards

439
00:22:39,720 --> 00:22:41,840
Speaker 2: Dan because I felt like he had kind of framed

440
00:22:41,880 --> 00:22:44,280
Speaker 2: me for Eckensue's murder, even though he had nothing to

441
00:22:44,320 --> 00:22:47,600
Speaker 2: do with poisoning at can Sue. I blamed him. So

442
00:22:47,680 --> 00:22:50,080
Speaker 2: I was like, I feel like I'm dead today anyway.

443
00:22:50,560 --> 00:22:52,719
Speaker 2: And I was like so on board with just like

444
00:22:52,800 --> 00:22:55,359
Speaker 2: saving the faithfuls that were left in the game that

445
00:22:55,400 --> 00:22:56,160
Speaker 2: I was working with.

446
00:22:56,840 --> 00:23:01,280
Speaker 1: Yeah, I love when you said Dan plays possum.

447
00:23:02,040 --> 00:23:04,360
Speaker 2: It does. Yeah, absolutely, Yeah.

448
00:23:04,560 --> 00:23:05,760
Speaker 1: See I see that now.

449
00:23:06,480 --> 00:23:10,399
Speaker 2: Yeah. His That's how I knew he was a trader

450
00:23:10,480 --> 00:23:14,960
Speaker 2: right away too. Was like typical Dan tells like looking

451
00:23:15,000 --> 00:23:16,840
Speaker 2: at me, trying to get information and then just like

452
00:23:16,880 --> 00:23:20,440
Speaker 2: scurrying away. Usually when he's really into working with you,

453
00:23:20,640 --> 00:23:24,679
Speaker 2: he'll hang out for a little bit longer. And it

454
00:23:24,800 --> 00:23:27,119
Speaker 2: was just so obvious to me. I'm like, oh my god,

455
00:23:27,160 --> 00:23:28,840
Speaker 2: these people have no idea.

456
00:23:29,720 --> 00:23:31,439
Speaker 1: Yeah. I mean, like I said, my plan was I

457
00:23:31,440 --> 00:23:34,480
Speaker 1: mean we got really close. You didn't see too much

458
00:23:34,480 --> 00:23:35,840
Speaker 1: of it because it was a lot of off camera.

459
00:23:35,880 --> 00:23:38,080
Speaker 1: We had a lot of downtime. So we would sit

460
00:23:38,119 --> 00:23:41,359
Speaker 1: there and talk and he would just like almost like

461
00:23:41,400 --> 00:23:43,400
Speaker 1: pull up my heart strings, like talk about how much

462
00:23:43,440 --> 00:23:44,960
Speaker 1: he loves his wife and all these things.

463
00:23:44,960 --> 00:23:46,520
Speaker 3: Now I'm looking back, I'm like, oh my god, I'm

464
00:23:46,560 --> 00:23:49,720
Speaker 3: so stupid. He was working you big time, big time,

465
00:23:49,880 --> 00:23:53,159
Speaker 3: big time. He wants to put that like get that

466
00:23:53,280 --> 00:23:56,159
Speaker 3: barrier down from you or feel your best friend. And

467
00:23:56,200 --> 00:23:58,720
Speaker 3: you know him so well, so he if you notice

468
00:23:58,720 --> 00:24:01,120
Speaker 3: with Dan, he's going to ask you a ton of questions,

469
00:24:01,160 --> 00:24:03,040
Speaker 3: but you're not really going to know that much about Dan,

470
00:24:04,080 --> 00:24:06,639
Speaker 3: like anything. He's going to ask you everything, but the

471
00:24:06,640 --> 00:24:07,439
Speaker 3: how many kids you have?

472
00:24:07,520 --> 00:24:09,240
Speaker 2: How old are they? What schools would they go to?

473
00:24:09,480 --> 00:24:11,720
Speaker 2: Like He'll keep going and going. It's a great way

474
00:24:11,800 --> 00:24:15,359
Speaker 2: to get people to open up and potentially the like

475
00:24:15,440 --> 00:24:16,320
Speaker 2: just manipulate them.

476
00:24:16,280 --> 00:24:19,000
Speaker 1: Or have to manipulate yes, and use whatever they say

477
00:24:19,040 --> 00:24:30,440
Speaker 1: against them. So you say it's obvious that Dan is

478
00:24:30,440 --> 00:24:33,960
Speaker 1: a trader, Kevin says that that you are. Janelle is

479
00:24:34,040 --> 00:24:36,919
Speaker 1: either a trader or is sloppy faithful and getting rid

480
00:24:37,000 --> 00:24:40,480
Speaker 1: of her will help them narrow it down. Janelle says

481
00:24:40,520 --> 00:24:43,719
Speaker 1: they all need to agree on someone. MJ says Janelle

482
00:24:43,720 --> 00:24:47,240
Speaker 1: has gotten her hands dirty and is win cutthroat, accusing

483
00:24:47,280 --> 00:24:50,239
Speaker 1: people of being traders. MJ tails Dan that Janelle is

484
00:24:50,280 --> 00:24:53,520
Speaker 1: gunning hard for him. Dan says Janelle is very capable

485
00:24:53,520 --> 00:24:56,479
Speaker 1: of getting him banished tonight, so he must steer votes

486
00:24:56,560 --> 00:24:59,359
Speaker 1: away from him. Dan and Poverty decide they need to

487
00:24:59,760 --> 00:25:01,480
Speaker 1: take out Chanel. Poor Janelle.

488
00:25:02,600 --> 00:25:05,520
Speaker 2: I don't care. I knew, I knew the vote to anything.

489
00:25:05,560 --> 00:25:07,720
Speaker 2: Because MJ was like, I'm not voting for you tonight.

490
00:25:07,720 --> 00:25:09,720
Speaker 2: I'm like, okay, Like I don't have the I don't

491
00:25:09,720 --> 00:25:11,240
Speaker 2: have Bravo, Like it's clear.

492
00:25:11,359 --> 00:25:13,920
Speaker 1: Right, But how did you feel at that time? Were

493
00:25:13,960 --> 00:25:16,600
Speaker 1: you like like you really wanted to win the game,

494
00:25:17,080 --> 00:25:19,359
Speaker 1: or were you like, you know what, it was great experience.

495
00:25:19,480 --> 00:25:20,840
Speaker 1: You know, I met people, I'm out.

496
00:25:21,880 --> 00:25:23,880
Speaker 2: I knew that I was getting banished, and I figured,

497
00:25:23,920 --> 00:25:25,800
Speaker 2: you know what, I'm going to go with the freakin'

498
00:25:26,320 --> 00:25:29,439
Speaker 2: bang A blast and explosion. I'm going to put everything

499
00:25:29,480 --> 00:25:33,000
Speaker 2: on the line. I'm going to out Dan. I will

500
00:25:33,000 --> 00:25:35,399
Speaker 2: out anyone at this point that I think is a trader.

501
00:25:35,400 --> 00:25:38,720
Speaker 2: And I actually named four people as traders at the table,

502
00:25:38,760 --> 00:25:41,760
Speaker 2: which a lot of people disagree with. But again, I'm

503
00:25:41,800 --> 00:25:43,840
Speaker 2: just trying to make a TV. I'm just trying to

504
00:25:43,840 --> 00:25:47,680
Speaker 2: put it all out there. And I think I did.

505
00:25:47,800 --> 00:25:50,840
Speaker 2: I mean I it was forty minutes of fighting edited

506
00:25:50,880 --> 00:25:51,760
Speaker 2: down to two minutes.

507
00:25:51,920 --> 00:25:53,240
Speaker 1: Yeah, I was going to ask you about that.

508
00:25:54,080 --> 00:25:55,960
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's like forty minutes of back and forth and

509
00:25:56,000 --> 00:25:58,600
Speaker 2: it's just like two little minutes. There was so much said,

510
00:25:59,000 --> 00:26:02,040
Speaker 2: There were so many, so many people calling out different people.

511
00:26:03,720 --> 00:26:05,639
Speaker 2: Dan's name was not the only one out there. My

512
00:26:05,720 --> 00:26:09,439
Speaker 2: name was not the only name out there. It was

513
00:26:09,480 --> 00:26:10,080
Speaker 2: a mess.

514
00:26:10,280 --> 00:26:12,760
Speaker 1: Okay, So what did you think when a new player

515
00:26:12,840 --> 00:26:15,720
Speaker 1: is joining the roundtable tonight? So they make this big surprise.

516
00:26:15,800 --> 00:26:19,119
Speaker 1: They did a great little entrance to Kate with showing

517
00:26:19,160 --> 00:26:21,520
Speaker 1: her gloves and her getting out of the car and

518
00:26:21,920 --> 00:26:28,000
Speaker 1: surprise Kate Chastain. Now, obviously you watched last season, you

519
00:26:28,040 --> 00:26:32,000
Speaker 1: saw how she played. Kevin says Janelle is possibly a trader,

520
00:26:33,520 --> 00:26:36,560
Speaker 1: rally everyone to shift their vote to. Janelle says she

521
00:26:36,720 --> 00:26:38,080
Speaker 1: is not the mastermind.

522
00:26:38,240 --> 00:26:39,000
Speaker 2: He thinks she is.

523
00:26:39,680 --> 00:26:45,160
Speaker 1: Now they all start voting and Kate votes for.

524
00:26:45,160 --> 00:26:47,160
Speaker 2: You, right, yeah, uh huh?

525
00:26:47,640 --> 00:26:50,280
Speaker 1: Why do you think she voted for you she's voting

526
00:26:50,280 --> 00:26:54,040
Speaker 1: with MJ, so she was MJ's buddy on this.

527
00:26:54,280 --> 00:26:58,480
Speaker 2: Oh yeah. MJ even told me that in the Castle

528
00:26:58,520 --> 00:27:00,919
Speaker 2: she had reached out to Kate before she even did

529
00:27:00,920 --> 00:27:03,160
Speaker 2: Traders to get advice, so I knew they knew each other.

530
00:27:03,440 --> 00:27:07,240
Speaker 2: Now Kate walked like, this is actually really annoying and horrible.

531
00:27:07,720 --> 00:27:09,760
Speaker 2: Dan and I are both trying to save our lives

532
00:27:10,040 --> 00:27:13,800
Speaker 2: and this person will do nothing for my case at

533
00:27:13,800 --> 00:27:16,880
Speaker 2: my banishment because it's just it's like another vote and

534
00:27:17,240 --> 00:27:21,000
Speaker 2: she's walking into so much information. It was kind of

535
00:27:21,040 --> 00:27:23,680
Speaker 2: an awkward time. It was like I was basically like

536
00:27:24,080 --> 00:27:26,919
Speaker 2: I love you, but like can you come back later?

537
00:27:28,200 --> 00:27:31,520
Speaker 1: Yeah? Now, did it feel weird having somebody thrown in

538
00:27:32,160 --> 00:27:35,880
Speaker 1: mid I mean, you guys have all been working our

539
00:27:35,880 --> 00:27:38,360
Speaker 1: asses off trying to figure out who the traders are?

540
00:27:39,240 --> 00:27:41,080
Speaker 1: Was it did you feel like what the hell? Like

541
00:27:41,600 --> 00:27:43,879
Speaker 1: we've been working for weeks now, and now you just

542
00:27:43,920 --> 00:27:47,600
Speaker 1: throw Kate chesting in this game and you're like, if

543
00:27:47,600 --> 00:27:49,919
Speaker 1: she wins, I'm gonna be really pissed off, Like I

544
00:27:49,960 --> 00:27:50,680
Speaker 1: would be thinking that.

545
00:27:51,880 --> 00:27:54,160
Speaker 2: I was more annoyed that it was my banishment because

546
00:27:54,200 --> 00:27:56,639
Speaker 2: my back is against the wall, like my neck is

547
00:27:57,040 --> 00:27:59,320
Speaker 2: like I'm fighting for my life and they add a

548
00:27:59,320 --> 00:28:01,080
Speaker 2: new player and I was like, oh my god, this

549
00:28:01,119 --> 00:28:04,239
Speaker 2: is the worst freaking timing ever to add a new

550
00:28:04,240 --> 00:28:05,960
Speaker 2: player to this game. And it's in the middle of

551
00:28:06,000 --> 00:28:09,200
Speaker 2: a game where we were, i mean putting it all

552
00:28:09,200 --> 00:28:11,520
Speaker 2: on the line, like I've never been this vocal at

553
00:28:11,520 --> 00:28:15,080
Speaker 2: a banishment in my life. Like I'm literally telling these people,

554
00:28:15,720 --> 00:28:20,400
Speaker 2: I'm giving you a traitor and it's just not happening.

555
00:28:20,560 --> 00:28:24,399
Speaker 1: So five episodes and and no traders have been found

556
00:28:24,400 --> 00:28:29,359
Speaker 1: at this point. It's just crazy. So r at the roundtable.

557
00:28:29,800 --> 00:28:34,160
Speaker 1: Five votes for Dan, nine votes for you, and they

558
00:28:34,240 --> 00:28:38,000
Speaker 1: are banishing you. Let's talk about your little fight you

559
00:28:38,040 --> 00:28:44,040
Speaker 1: got into with Sandra. Okay, was it worse at the

560
00:28:44,040 --> 00:28:45,480
Speaker 1: table than what we saw on TV.

561
00:28:46,720 --> 00:28:49,360
Speaker 2: There was some fighting with Parverty too that they edited

562
00:28:49,440 --> 00:28:52,520
Speaker 2: out the fight. I had it both ways. I was

563
00:28:52,560 --> 00:28:55,440
Speaker 2: fighting Parverty and then Sandra stepped in, and then I

564
00:28:55,520 --> 00:28:58,400
Speaker 2: just started fighting Sandra. So it was a freaking mess,

565
00:28:58,760 --> 00:29:03,600
Speaker 2: and the whole fight actually started over. I said in

566
00:29:03,640 --> 00:29:06,200
Speaker 2: the beginning of the banishment, like, I know that the

567
00:29:06,240 --> 00:29:10,160
Speaker 2: six people playing for Shields were faithful, and Sandra was like,

568
00:29:10,200 --> 00:29:12,800
Speaker 2: so you mean to tell me that every every single

569
00:29:12,800 --> 00:29:15,680
Speaker 2: person playing for birds in the house. The traders are

570
00:29:15,720 --> 00:29:18,680
Speaker 2: in the house. And I said, yes, I know with

571
00:29:18,720 --> 00:29:20,920
Speaker 2: my whole heart the traders are in that group. They

572
00:29:20,920 --> 00:29:24,200
Speaker 2: are not playing for shields. And she goes, that's just stupid.

573
00:29:24,520 --> 00:29:27,360
Speaker 2: I don't agree. I think you're a trader for saying that.

574
00:29:27,440 --> 00:29:29,480
Speaker 2: And that's when I was like, Sandra's got to be

575
00:29:29,520 --> 00:29:33,240
Speaker 2: a trader. I'm like, and she and then she said, oh,

576
00:29:33,280 --> 00:29:35,960
Speaker 2: and by the way, Janelle me, Dan and Parvid always

577
00:29:35,960 --> 00:29:38,000
Speaker 2: had your back. And I was like, oh, hell no,

578
00:29:38,280 --> 00:29:40,920
Speaker 2: because I already Dan and Harvedy were traders. I'm like,

579
00:29:41,040 --> 00:29:44,320
Speaker 2: for sure, then she's the other one, for sure. Yeah.

580
00:29:44,360 --> 00:29:49,320
Speaker 1: I was suspicious of Sandra the entire time. I was like,

581
00:29:49,440 --> 00:29:52,520
Speaker 1: she could be the perfect trader because she was so

582
00:29:52,680 --> 00:29:55,480
Speaker 1: nice and sweet, a little bit quiet, and I thought,

583
00:29:55,520 --> 00:29:58,360
Speaker 1: and you know, she won. Was she she was on?

584
00:29:58,920 --> 00:30:00,000
Speaker 1: Was she on Survivor? Right?

585
00:30:00,920 --> 00:30:04,200
Speaker 2: I think Sandra's playing an incredible, like faithful game, but

586
00:30:04,200 --> 00:30:06,000
Speaker 2: it's also one of those games where it's like, are

587
00:30:06,080 --> 00:30:07,280
Speaker 2: you really going to go to the end of the

588
00:30:07,320 --> 00:30:12,080
Speaker 2: game with Sandra? Sandra from Survivor. So, I mean a

589
00:30:12,120 --> 00:30:15,000
Speaker 2: lot of people I think were just naturally suspicious of her,

590
00:30:15,400 --> 00:30:17,720
Speaker 2: which they shouldn't have been because she, I mean, duh,

591
00:30:17,720 --> 00:30:19,000
Speaker 2: she was a faithful So.

592
00:30:19,800 --> 00:30:24,120
Speaker 1: Yes, So Peter tells Kevin, Bergie and John that he

593
00:30:24,200 --> 00:30:28,280
Speaker 1: told CT, Dan and Poverty about the shields to throw

594
00:30:28,320 --> 00:30:31,680
Speaker 1: them off. Peter says, this is potentially confirmed if any

595
00:30:31,760 --> 00:30:37,640
Speaker 1: of them are traders. So explain that to people, because

596
00:30:37,760 --> 00:30:39,000
Speaker 1: there's a lot that goes into this.

597
00:30:39,720 --> 00:30:44,960
Speaker 2: There's so much strategy. So basically we had the Faithful Alliance,

598
00:30:45,000 --> 00:30:46,920
Speaker 2: and I know there's other Faithfuls, but our alliance was

599
00:30:46,920 --> 00:30:49,280
Speaker 2: called the Faithfuls. We all had different opinions on who

600
00:30:49,320 --> 00:30:51,920
Speaker 2: those other those other traders were. We always thought there

601
00:30:52,000 --> 00:30:55,760
Speaker 2: was four, so you know, maybe Peter thought Fedra, I

602
00:30:55,800 --> 00:31:00,120
Speaker 2: thought Sandra, Trichelle thought it could have been Sureay, and

603
00:31:00,240 --> 00:31:03,600
Speaker 2: John always said like, oh, I think it's Sandra. So

604
00:31:03,600 --> 00:31:05,640
Speaker 2: there was so many different opinions on who that I was.

605
00:31:05,680 --> 00:31:08,040
Speaker 2: And then another name thrown up with CT. So it

606
00:31:08,120 --> 00:31:12,160
Speaker 2: was like, Okay, we're looking at four people. And he

607
00:31:12,320 --> 00:31:13,920
Speaker 2: just felt like if he put it on those three

608
00:31:13,960 --> 00:31:17,800
Speaker 2: people and talk to them, if you know, obviously if

609
00:31:18,200 --> 00:31:20,280
Speaker 2: they do, what if they if he gets to trick them,

610
00:31:20,280 --> 00:31:23,000
Speaker 2: then he knows that the information that he gave he

611
00:31:23,080 --> 00:31:26,840
Speaker 2: was talking to a trader is basically like a trick.

612
00:31:27,280 --> 00:31:30,080
Speaker 1: How do you compare the competition shows that you have

613
00:31:30,200 --> 00:31:33,920
Speaker 1: been on to traders? Like, is it harder different?

614
00:31:35,120 --> 00:31:37,840
Speaker 2: I find traders to be harder in the sense that

615
00:31:38,400 --> 00:31:40,880
Speaker 2: you have to make decisions really really quick, whereas big

616
00:31:40,920 --> 00:31:43,360
Speaker 2: your brother, you have so much time to strategize, so

617
00:31:43,480 --> 00:31:46,840
Speaker 2: like the moves could be like bigger and more showy,

618
00:31:46,880 --> 00:31:49,760
Speaker 2: but you have a week to think about it. Here

619
00:31:49,800 --> 00:31:52,640
Speaker 2: it's it's, you know, playing a fast game like Traders.

620
00:31:52,840 --> 00:31:54,680
Speaker 2: You have to be on your feet and think so quick,

621
00:31:55,200 --> 00:31:57,680
Speaker 2: and the move might be sloppy, but like you're just

622
00:31:57,720 --> 00:31:59,280
Speaker 2: doing it in the moment. You don't have time to

623
00:31:59,280 --> 00:32:00,000
Speaker 2: think about it. Really.

624
00:32:00,400 --> 00:32:02,280
Speaker 1: Yeah, well, one thing you did a lot was think

625
00:32:02,280 --> 00:32:05,040
Speaker 1: because I would look at you and your eyes were

626
00:32:05,120 --> 00:32:07,360
Speaker 1: just glazed across the room and I could just see

627
00:32:07,400 --> 00:32:10,280
Speaker 1: you were thinking. You were just thinking about your next move.

628
00:32:11,600 --> 00:32:13,760
Speaker 2: I was always thinking about, like who the traders are?

629
00:32:13,840 --> 00:32:15,760
Speaker 2: I was trader hunting every day.

630
00:32:15,800 --> 00:32:18,880
Speaker 1: I was you know, is there anything you would have

631
00:32:18,880 --> 00:32:19,440
Speaker 1: done different?

632
00:32:22,720 --> 00:32:26,880
Speaker 2: Something I would have done different. I probably wouldn't have targeted.

633
00:32:27,000 --> 00:32:29,200
Speaker 2: I feel like I shouldn't have targeted Sandra because it

634
00:32:29,200 --> 00:32:31,360
Speaker 2: did hurt her game. I feel like and that, do

635
00:32:31,360 --> 00:32:35,080
Speaker 2: you feel really bad about being val about her at

636
00:32:35,560 --> 00:32:37,760
Speaker 2: the round table when she was just fighting. I think

637
00:32:37,760 --> 00:32:40,440
Speaker 2: she was just protecting poverty to protect her, and I

638
00:32:40,480 --> 00:32:43,080
Speaker 2: took that as a sign of her just being a

639
00:32:43,120 --> 00:32:46,880
Speaker 2: trader when she was just protecting her. So maybe not

640
00:32:46,920 --> 00:32:48,440
Speaker 2: say Sandra's name with the roundtable.

641
00:32:49,040 --> 00:32:53,280
Speaker 1: Yeah, So Dan is shifting from defense mode to aggressive mode,

642
00:32:53,320 --> 00:32:56,000
Speaker 1: which is funny because I feel like that's something me

643
00:32:56,040 --> 00:32:58,200
Speaker 1: and Dan talked about in the kitchen that they did

644
00:32:58,240 --> 00:33:00,920
Speaker 1: not show. It's time for us to get more aggressive.

645
00:33:01,280 --> 00:33:04,040
Speaker 1: So I would say I'm glad he took my advice

646
00:33:04,840 --> 00:33:09,040
Speaker 1: and once to decide the murder tonight. Uh Phaedrian Parvety

647
00:33:09,480 --> 00:33:12,200
Speaker 1: ask who Dan will throw under the bus tomorrow and

648
00:33:12,280 --> 00:33:14,400
Speaker 1: Dan says he needs to sleep on it.

649
00:33:15,800 --> 00:33:15,920
Speaker 2: Uh.

650
00:33:17,120 --> 00:33:20,720
Speaker 1: Parvety and Dan both say Peter told them who has

651
00:33:20,760 --> 00:33:23,440
Speaker 1: the child. Parvety says Peter must be lying and trying

652
00:33:23,440 --> 00:33:25,880
Speaker 1: to trick them. She was quick at that to figure

653
00:33:25,920 --> 00:33:26,520
Speaker 1: that out, like it.

654
00:33:27,200 --> 00:33:29,440
Speaker 2: She plays with hidden immunity idol, So she's gonna know

655
00:33:29,720 --> 00:33:33,000
Speaker 2: that when someone they can fake you, they can say, well,

656
00:33:33,320 --> 00:33:35,840
Speaker 2: don't vote for me tonight, I've got a hidden immunity idol.

657
00:33:35,880 --> 00:33:37,360
Speaker 2: But she plays like that all the time.

658
00:33:37,680 --> 00:33:40,720
Speaker 1: Oh okay, so she's got that dances Peter is not

659
00:33:40,840 --> 00:33:43,880
Speaker 1: that savvy. Parvety says they need to choose someone who

660
00:33:43,960 --> 00:33:47,240
Speaker 1: wasn't outside. Dan says they need to take out Bergie.

661
00:33:47,280 --> 00:33:50,320
Speaker 1: Parvety suggest John and Dan say say they need to

662
00:33:50,400 --> 00:33:53,200
Speaker 1: roll the dice on Bergie. I hope they don't get

663
00:33:53,280 --> 00:33:56,920
Speaker 1: rid of Bergie many. Parvety is nervous about it.

664
00:33:57,640 --> 00:33:59,960
Speaker 2: I know that Bergie is gunning for Dan though. I mean,

665
00:34:00,080 --> 00:34:02,720
Speaker 2: and I worked with Bergie. I know that he was

666
00:34:02,800 --> 00:34:05,800
Speaker 2: very vocal after my banishment. He was shouting things that

667
00:34:05,840 --> 00:34:08,160
Speaker 2: aren't even on camera. He was like, I'm coming for

668
00:34:08,239 --> 00:34:12,080
Speaker 2: you Dan, Like Burgie is literally coming for Dan. So

669
00:34:12,239 --> 00:34:13,600
Speaker 2: Dan's nervous about that.

670
00:34:14,320 --> 00:34:14,800
Speaker 1: Yeah.

671
00:34:14,880 --> 00:34:15,160
Speaker 2: I mean.

672
00:34:15,160 --> 00:34:17,680
Speaker 1: With Kate thrown back into the mix, I think it's

673
00:34:17,680 --> 00:34:20,880
Speaker 1: going to get really interesting. I loved her on the

674
00:34:20,920 --> 00:34:24,200
Speaker 1: first season. Just her no nonsense, doesn't give a shit

675
00:34:24,440 --> 00:34:28,560
Speaker 1: personality is going to make it really interesting. I'm shocked

676
00:34:28,560 --> 00:34:31,200
Speaker 1: they didn't bring her in as a trader, but maybe

677
00:34:31,239 --> 00:34:33,319
Speaker 1: that would have been too obvious too.

678
00:34:34,000 --> 00:34:34,680
Speaker 2: That's not fair.

679
00:34:35,280 --> 00:34:35,960
Speaker 1: Yeah, you're right.

680
00:34:36,560 --> 00:34:39,719
Speaker 2: Yeah, targets on himself and then say, oh, by the way,

681
00:34:39,760 --> 00:34:41,880
Speaker 2: we're going to give you the most powerful position in

682
00:34:41,920 --> 00:34:43,920
Speaker 2: the game too. Yeah, I don't know.

683
00:34:43,960 --> 00:34:46,480
Speaker 1: I just thought that maybe because she wasn't a trader

684
00:34:46,600 --> 00:34:49,080
Speaker 1: the first season, and I thought maybe they just threw

685
00:34:49,239 --> 00:34:54,520
Speaker 1: this bone, but I figured it'd be too much power. Yeah.

686
00:34:54,560 --> 00:34:57,439
Speaker 1: So Dan in closing, Dan says this murder will win

687
00:34:57,560 --> 00:35:05,200
Speaker 1: him the game or in the entire thing, and that's yeah.

688
00:35:05,280 --> 00:35:09,480
Speaker 1: So that's episode five, guys. I mean, the show is

689
00:35:09,560 --> 00:35:13,200
Speaker 1: just heating up. It's so good. I can't even believe that.

690
00:35:13,640 --> 00:35:15,920
Speaker 1: I mean, I think it's gonna win an Emmy, I

691
00:35:16,000 --> 00:35:18,279
Speaker 1: really do, absolutely.

692
00:35:18,280 --> 00:35:20,759
Speaker 2: I mean each week is getting better and better. I

693
00:35:20,800 --> 00:35:23,400
Speaker 2: think even the people that are new to competition shows,

694
00:35:23,640 --> 00:35:25,880
Speaker 2: they're doing better and better every week. I mean, this

695
00:35:26,040 --> 00:35:30,440
Speaker 2: is like shocking, It's like a nail bier. It's anyone's

696
00:35:30,480 --> 00:35:32,520
Speaker 2: game at this point. I'm just like, so here for it.

697
00:35:32,920 --> 00:35:35,600
Speaker 1: Yeah, who do you talk to? I'm gonna guess you

698
00:35:35,600 --> 00:35:36,440
Speaker 1: don't talk to Larsa.

699
00:35:37,440 --> 00:35:39,560
Speaker 2: I don't't talk to Larsa. I do follow her though,

700
00:35:39,600 --> 00:35:41,920
Speaker 2: and I like her pictures on Instagram, but I think does.

701
00:35:41,800 --> 00:35:42,640
Speaker 1: She follow you back?

702
00:35:43,480 --> 00:35:48,319
Speaker 2: No? Never, I talk to Bergie. I've talked to Bergie,

703
00:35:48,760 --> 00:35:54,279
Speaker 2: Peter Trachelle uh sometimes Dan. I talk to Sandra a lot.

704
00:35:54,719 --> 00:35:58,919
Speaker 2: I talk to Sandra, Oh you do that's chat?

705
00:35:58,960 --> 00:36:02,319
Speaker 1: I like chat with certain people on Instagram. The only

706
00:36:02,360 --> 00:36:06,400
Speaker 1: one that I don't talk to Cet. I just saw that.

707
00:36:06,600 --> 00:36:07,960
Speaker 1: Does he have a new show coming out?

708
00:36:08,560 --> 00:36:09,200
Speaker 2: Yeah?

709
00:36:09,560 --> 00:36:11,960
Speaker 1: Yeah? Is it the Challenge or is it something different?

710
00:36:12,320 --> 00:36:14,520
Speaker 1: So it's like a new it's like like a new

711
00:36:14,600 --> 00:36:15,120
Speaker 1: version of.

712
00:36:15,080 --> 00:36:18,799
Speaker 2: It, version of it or like whatever, the best of

713
00:36:18,840 --> 00:36:19,680
Speaker 2: the best kind of thing.

714
00:36:20,200 --> 00:36:23,440
Speaker 1: Yeah, what do you think if you could do another

715
00:36:23,440 --> 00:36:25,960
Speaker 1: competition show? What do you what would you.

716
00:36:25,880 --> 00:36:31,120
Speaker 2: Do another competition show? Which I'm getting up there in age,

717
00:36:31,160 --> 00:36:34,319
Speaker 2: I don't know, if I still got it, I would do.

718
00:36:35,400 --> 00:36:38,120
Speaker 2: I love games on a strategy and like Alliance Building.

719
00:36:38,600 --> 00:36:39,720
Speaker 2: I would love to do.

720
00:36:39,640 --> 00:36:41,960
Speaker 1: Like Dealer No Deal Island or.

721
00:36:43,480 --> 00:36:45,040
Speaker 2: A game similar to Traders.

722
00:36:45,239 --> 00:36:47,480
Speaker 1: Like I feel like I don't.

723
00:36:47,280 --> 00:36:49,400
Speaker 2: Want to play Survivor. That sounds horrible.

724
00:36:49,840 --> 00:36:51,640
Speaker 1: That sounds horrible.

725
00:36:52,120 --> 00:36:56,200
Speaker 2: Yeah, like absolutely, I don't want to play Brother again.

726
00:36:56,760 --> 00:37:00,760
Speaker 2: That's horrible. Anything short and sweet would be up my own.

727
00:37:01,000 --> 00:37:03,560
Speaker 1: Right, Short and sweet, That's what I was saying, Like

728
00:37:04,000 --> 00:37:07,959
Speaker 1: to do something. We're gone for almost a month. That's hard.

729
00:37:08,920 --> 00:37:10,600
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's too much, too much time.

730
00:37:10,840 --> 00:37:14,200
Speaker 1: Kids and a husband and all that But anyways, thank

731
00:37:14,239 --> 00:37:17,400
Speaker 1: you so much for co hosting. I hope I'm going

732
00:37:17,480 --> 00:37:18,520
Speaker 1: to be seeing you again.

733
00:37:19,600 --> 00:37:22,919
Speaker 2: I love seeing you. I was so devastated, so I'm

734
00:37:22,960 --> 00:37:25,319
Speaker 2: glad that I'm honestly, the silver lin is that at

735
00:37:25,360 --> 00:37:26,920
Speaker 2: least we're on the same episode and we die in

736
00:37:26,920 --> 00:37:27,680
Speaker 2: the same episode.

737
00:37:27,840 --> 00:37:32,480
Speaker 1: I know with you, I know it's amazing. But you guys,

738
00:37:32,600 --> 00:37:35,200
Speaker 1: if you haven't watched, you got to tune in. It

739
00:37:35,280 --> 00:37:37,879
Speaker 1: is so good. It's about to heat up. And I'm

740
00:37:37,920 --> 00:37:41,839
Speaker 1: just praying that they get a Trader next week.

741
00:37:42,400 --> 00:37:44,839
Speaker 2: Have to get a trader running out of daze big time.

742
00:37:44,920 --> 00:37:48,400
Speaker 1: Yeah. Did you happen to get to do the Traders

743
00:37:48,440 --> 00:37:51,400
Speaker 1: Experience down in La No?

744
00:37:51,400 --> 00:37:52,920
Speaker 2: No, I wasn't there.

745
00:37:53,239 --> 00:37:55,920
Speaker 1: Yeah. It was so cool. It was so cool.

746
00:37:56,080 --> 00:37:56,919
Speaker 2: Really yeah.

747
00:37:56,960 --> 00:37:58,600
Speaker 1: They had it open to the public as well. I

748
00:37:58,640 --> 00:38:00,680
Speaker 1: think it's gone now, but you were able to go

749
00:38:00,760 --> 00:38:04,520
Speaker 1: into this house it's old house in LA and they

750
00:38:04,560 --> 00:38:07,120
Speaker 1: had like just like a mock version of the show,

751
00:38:07,560 --> 00:38:09,920
Speaker 1: a mini version of the show. It was really fun,

752
00:38:10,280 --> 00:38:11,040
Speaker 1: really really fun.

753
00:38:11,640 --> 00:38:13,480
Speaker 2: I know that fans are just loving it. It's such

754
00:38:13,520 --> 00:38:16,640
Speaker 2: a hot show right now. Everyone wants to play Traders,

755
00:38:16,680 --> 00:38:17,359
Speaker 2: like it's just.

756
00:38:17,280 --> 00:38:19,440
Speaker 1: So did you get a lot of people sending your

757
00:38:19,440 --> 00:38:21,640
Speaker 1: messages like I'm so bombed you're gone.

758
00:38:21,680 --> 00:38:23,960
Speaker 2: You were like this is horrible, Like I'm not watching

759
00:38:24,000 --> 00:38:27,960
Speaker 2: the show anymore, like this up. And I'm like you

760
00:38:28,040 --> 00:38:30,520
Speaker 2: have to keep watching the show, like all of our

761
00:38:30,719 --> 00:38:33,480
Speaker 2: deaths will make it worth it in the ends.

762
00:38:33,760 --> 00:38:36,080
Speaker 1: Yeah. Yeah, I can't wait to say who wins in

763
00:38:36,160 --> 00:38:42,040
Speaker 1: the very end. But thank you, Janelle, thank you, I appreciate.

764
00:38:41,600 --> 00:38:43,240
Speaker 2: Thank you so much for having me camera.

765
00:38:43,719 --> 00:38:48,040
Speaker 1: Yes always, Okay, love you, love you too, and I'll

766
00:38:48,040 --> 00:38:48,600
Speaker 1: see you soon.

767
00:38:48,800 --> 00:38:49,839
Speaker 2: All right, I'll see you soon.

768
00:38:50,120 --> 00:38:52,160
Speaker 1: Bye bye.