WEBVTT - Alex Désert Meets World 0:00:00.160 --> 0:00:19.880 This episode was recorded on June eighth, twenty twenty three. 0:00:20.920 --> 0:00:25.239 How often do you update the apps on your phone? 0:00:25.840 --> 0:00:27.480 I have them set to update automatically. 0:00:27.800 --> 0:00:29.120 Yeah, it just does it automatically. 0:00:29.640 --> 0:00:31.360 But then why will I look at because I'll look 0:00:31.400 --> 0:00:34.199 down at that my phone occasionally and it'll say like 0:00:34.400 --> 0:00:36.920 that you have sixty two updates, and it'll just I'll 0:00:36.920 --> 0:00:38.920 have to then actually go in and say update. 0:00:38.960 --> 0:00:42.920 All okay, Grandpa, go to settings, Like what's a setting? 0:00:45.040 --> 0:00:46.919 First of all, you're you're using an iPhone, right, You're 0:00:46.960 --> 0:00:50.880 not like danding out without um, yes, I'm annoying every 0:00:51.440 --> 0:00:52.559 everyone in everybody's dad. 0:00:52.600 --> 0:00:54.560 You don't have a superior phone. You have a normal, 0:00:54.720 --> 0:00:58.920 janky phone, got it? Okay? 0:01:00.080 --> 0:01:02.120 Okay, you go, yeah, you just go to settings, man, 0:01:02.160 --> 0:01:03.680 and you just put it like it has like a 0:01:03.680 --> 0:01:06.840 whole updates area, and I swear you just type like automatically, 0:01:07.240 --> 0:01:09.400 and then then it'll do it at night while you're 0:01:09.640 --> 0:01:11.600 correct like, well, no, that's what I'm hoping it does 0:01:11.640 --> 0:01:13.560 that and it sings to me and it tucks me 0:01:13.600 --> 0:01:14.640 in and it keeps me safe. 0:01:14.720 --> 0:01:17.600 That's what I'm hoping my phone does as well. For 0:01:17.640 --> 0:01:19.520 the money I'm paying, that's what it better do. With 0:01:19.560 --> 0:01:22.039 how expensive these things are nowadays, it better curl me 0:01:22.080 --> 0:01:22.960 and hold me at night. 0:01:23.720 --> 0:01:25.280 I mean, come on, I've been. 0:01:25.200 --> 0:01:28.080 Trying so hard to institute like a putting the phone 0:01:28.080 --> 0:01:30.400 down when I walk in the house rule, and I've 0:01:30.480 --> 0:01:34.039 like discussed since the moment India was born. And now 0:01:34.040 --> 0:01:35.920 he's old enough to actually call me out on it. 0:01:36.040 --> 0:01:38.279 He'll be like, dat, why are you looking at your phone? 0:01:38.440 --> 0:01:40.560 Oh it's the worst. It's the worst feeling to be 0:01:40.600 --> 0:01:40.959 called out. 0:01:41.120 --> 0:01:41.320 Well. 0:01:41.400 --> 0:01:45.080 Yeah, speaking of tech, have you guys seen the new 0:01:45.160 --> 0:01:50.240 Apple VR headset vision pro. I think it's called No 0:01:51.040 --> 0:01:54.320 my gosh, you guys. So Jensen is on the side 0:01:54.360 --> 0:01:54.800 of it. 0:01:54.880 --> 0:01:57.280 Doesn't look dumb. It looks cool. 0:01:58.160 --> 0:02:01.280 Okay, it is exactly what you would think of a 0:02:01.400 --> 0:02:05.360 VR looking, you know, headset thing you wear across your eyes. 0:02:06.040 --> 0:02:09.320 And then it's like but so when you put it 0:02:09.360 --> 0:02:12.880 on it apparently you be it becomes a three d 0:02:13.040 --> 0:02:14.280 oh eastern look at that. 0:02:14.320 --> 0:02:15.040 Okay, So there it. 0:02:15.040 --> 0:02:19.400 Is, right, But then the view for you inside is 0:02:19.440 --> 0:02:23.400 that it's your environment. So it's your house, like your 0:02:24.639 --> 0:02:28.160 correct augmented reality, and then all of your apps in 0:02:28.200 --> 0:02:30.600 front of you, so now it's you know, any one 0:02:30.600 --> 0:02:36.080 of those movies we've seen where the apps and that's 0:02:36.560 --> 0:02:38.960 exactly what you can do now, you can just flick 0:02:39.000 --> 0:02:43.880 your wrist. But in the advertisement for it, every single person. 0:02:43.880 --> 0:02:46.359 Is alone in their house. 0:02:47.040 --> 0:02:52.359 See Jensen's wearing my Mantai masks that. 0:02:52.360 --> 0:02:53.200 I see you with. 0:02:55.800 --> 0:02:57.520 Looks awesome, dude, it's so cool. 0:02:57.840 --> 0:02:58.400 That works. 0:02:58.440 --> 0:02:59.000 So cool. 0:03:00.600 --> 0:03:03.399 Does anybody else remember when your parents used to tell 0:03:03.440 --> 0:03:06.000 you don't get that close to the screen because it's 0:03:06.040 --> 0:03:08.440 bad for your eyes. Now we're wearing the screen on 0:03:08.440 --> 0:03:09.200 our feet, we wear the. 0:03:09.200 --> 0:03:10.040 Screen on your face. 0:03:10.200 --> 0:03:13.240 And then the people who they show that aren't alone, 0:03:13.360 --> 0:03:16.639 it's like, oh, you can see them and they can 0:03:16.680 --> 0:03:18.920 see you. So you can see out of it, like 0:03:18.960 --> 0:03:20.720 if you were sitting in a room. 0:03:20.360 --> 0:03:22.440 Almost like you were really next to each other. It 0:03:22.600 --> 0:03:25.040 like it's almost like you were seeing each other in 0:03:25.200 --> 0:03:25.840 real life. 0:03:26.120 --> 0:03:27.279 Oh my exactly. 0:03:28.320 --> 0:03:31.000 So then the other thing is the fact that you 0:03:31.040 --> 0:03:34.840 can see your own place. I'm like, don't most people 0:03:35.000 --> 0:03:36.960 not want to be in their own house? 0:03:37.080 --> 0:03:38.360 Like, wouldn't you kind of. 0:03:38.320 --> 0:03:40.160 Be like one thousand dollars to be in my living? 0:03:40.440 --> 0:03:42.440 I put I paid thirty five hundred. 0:03:42.120 --> 0:03:44.080 Dollars for this VR headset and like it to still 0:03:44.120 --> 0:03:45.840 look at my crappy apartment happen. 0:03:46.040 --> 0:03:47.360 Man, we've been primed. 0:03:47.360 --> 0:03:50.920 I mean, think about the way the pandemic accelerated our 0:03:51.000 --> 0:03:54.520 comfort with video conference. Yeah, you know, like this would 0:03:54.560 --> 0:03:56.920 have been unheard of for me to think that we 0:03:56.920 --> 0:03:58.960 were actually going to have a conversation to talk to each. 0:03:58.800 --> 0:04:01.119 Other, and now we do it every week, yes, yeah, 0:04:01.120 --> 0:04:03.360 twice a week. And it's also become going. 0:04:03.400 --> 0:04:05.760 It's just become normalized because what we're saying is we 0:04:05.800 --> 0:04:07.320 haven't seen each other in a while and be like, 0:04:07.360 --> 0:04:09.640 see you tomorrow, and it's still like I haven't seen 0:04:09.680 --> 0:04:10.680 you guys in a while. 0:04:10.920 --> 0:04:13.760 So it's yeah, it's weird. But the other thing room's 0:04:13.760 --> 0:04:14.680 gotten smaller. 0:04:14.440 --> 0:04:16.760 Is that we when we first started this podcast, we 0:04:16.760 --> 0:04:20.520 were all in one hundred percent agreement that it needed 0:04:20.839 --> 0:04:22.880 to be in person, that our. 0:04:23.000 --> 0:04:24.960 Energy, that are what you know. 0:04:25.080 --> 0:04:27.200 And by the way, there is some stuff that's really 0:04:27.240 --> 0:04:30.200 great about being that you can't duplicate on zoom, but 0:04:30.839 --> 0:04:34.719 about eighty five percent of it ninety percent we can, 0:04:34.920 --> 0:04:37.960 and it just became so much easier, so much easier. 0:04:38.000 --> 0:04:41.960 So yeah, I don't know, it's just there's this amazing 0:04:42.080 --> 0:04:45.479 passage that David Foster Wallace wrote, I forget what book it. 0:04:45.480 --> 0:04:46.920 I think it might have it might have been its 0:04:46.960 --> 0:04:49.360 own essay or no, I think it was in Infinite Jess. 0:04:49.400 --> 0:04:50.240 It's like you can look it up. 0:04:50.279 --> 0:04:53.360 It's amazing, he wrote, you know, because it's it takes 0:04:53.400 --> 0:04:56.280 place in the future, and it's just an analysis of 0:04:56.360 --> 0:04:59.839 why video conferencing didn't take off, like didn't become a thing. 0:05:00.200 --> 0:05:02.120 And he's you know, he's writing this in the nineties, 0:05:02.160 --> 0:05:05.160 like way before the technology existed, but he predicts that 0:05:05.320 --> 0:05:09.520 like what we why we will not adopt video conferencing, 0:05:09.560 --> 0:05:11.800 And he's absolutely right. It's what happened when like FaceTime 0:05:11.839 --> 0:05:13.440 came out. It was like people used it to like 0:05:13.480 --> 0:05:15.920 look at their babies, right, and then that was about it, 0:05:15.960 --> 0:05:18.560 like nobody else used But then, you know, what he 0:05:18.600 --> 0:05:20.919 describes is like how you can tell when somebody's not 0:05:20.960 --> 0:05:22.680 listening to you when you're looking at them, like when 0:05:22.720 --> 0:05:25.200 they get a little bored, right, Whereas like on a 0:05:25.240 --> 0:05:27.960 phone call, there was like the natural habit you just 0:05:28.080 --> 0:05:30.240 you assume somebody was engaged with it even while they 0:05:30.240 --> 0:05:32.760 were like making the dinner or whatever. And that was 0:05:32.800 --> 0:05:35.680 like that sort of disembodied voice. Actually made for a 0:05:35.760 --> 0:05:40.279 cool social engagement that like zoom requires like the the 0:05:40.360 --> 0:05:43.200 constant listening face or the nod air and it requires 0:05:43.240 --> 0:05:45.599 a lot more energy. Right, But I think you know 0:05:45.640 --> 0:05:48.040 he was correct and that it wasn't going to be adopted, 0:05:48.040 --> 0:05:50.520 But then the pandemic just made it happen like it 0:05:50.560 --> 0:05:51.239 was the only option. 0:05:51.320 --> 0:05:52.600 It was our social life for so. 0:05:52.640 --> 0:05:55.159 Long, and it very quickly. 0:05:55.160 --> 0:05:57.599 Do my danielle ficial impression of when I can tell 0:05:57.680 --> 0:06:01.440 she's not listening and she and she's writing somebody else. 0:06:01.560 --> 0:06:08.800 Watch and you see the hands got like you can 0:06:08.839 --> 0:06:11.520 see you tell she's typing and. 0:06:12.040 --> 0:06:14.320 I'm still looking at you. He's looking at you. 0:06:14.520 --> 0:06:17.000 But when is it going and she's totally talking to 0:06:17.040 --> 0:06:17.480 somebody else? 0:06:17.520 --> 0:06:18.080 It's the funny. 0:06:18.120 --> 0:06:20.080 I'm like, oh, yeah, Daniel's in a whole nother conversation 0:06:20.200 --> 0:06:20.480 right now. 0:06:20.520 --> 0:06:22.320 I don't think I can do that. I can't type, 0:06:22.440 --> 0:06:24.640 and like, do you want to be that's. 0:06:24.520 --> 0:06:28.000 Because you have a terrible iPhone And on my Android, 0:06:28.120 --> 0:06:31.880 I have a swipe text feature where all I have 0:06:31.960 --> 0:06:32.600 to do is. 0:06:32.600 --> 0:06:36.200 Drag me jumping into people's text conversations and ruining them. 0:06:36.279 --> 0:06:38.520 Yeah, I know, we can't. 0:06:38.960 --> 0:06:40.400 We can't tap back to Danielle. 0:06:40.560 --> 0:06:44.440 I tried were up that personal zoom yesterday all of us, 0:06:44.480 --> 0:06:46.919 and the zoom ended and I tried to FaceTime you 0:06:46.960 --> 0:06:49.400 all and I had to send like what do you 0:06:49.560 --> 0:06:49.880 go through? 0:06:50.000 --> 0:06:51.680 Nine levels? Like I was going to Nora. 0:06:51.560 --> 0:06:53.160 D And both people had to turn the keys at 0:06:53.160 --> 0:06:57.400 the same time to launch the missile to get Danielle. 0:06:58.360 --> 0:07:01.280 It was ridiculous. Where we're at gon for daniel fit like, 0:07:01.320 --> 0:07:06.400 oh man, So yeah, that was We'll talk about it later. 0:07:07.480 --> 0:07:10.559 Yeah, Grandpa, bring your phone over and I'll hook you up. Okay. 0:07:10.800 --> 0:07:11.920 Also, just google this. 0:07:12.040 --> 0:07:18.800 I'm sure there's answers for all the. 0:07:16.440 --> 0:07:17.200 What's a Google? 0:07:17.280 --> 0:07:21.240 Put your VR headset on and ask you what Hey. 0:07:20.880 --> 0:07:21.920 I'm on a zoom with you. 0:07:22.160 --> 0:07:23.680 It's like I'm really in this room. 0:07:23.760 --> 0:07:26.840 Still Welcome to Pod meets World. 0:07:26.840 --> 0:07:30.240 I'm Daniel Fischel, I'm right or Strong, and I'm Wilfordell. 0:07:40.440 --> 0:07:43.400 As we enter season three of Boy Meets World, it's 0:07:43.440 --> 0:07:46.240 difficult to brace for what's to come when you don't 0:07:46.280 --> 0:07:49.960 really remember much. But we did know one thing this 0:07:50.000 --> 0:07:53.840 season around. We were about to meet the coolest new 0:07:53.960 --> 0:07:56.880 character Boy Meets World has seen so far, and he 0:07:57.040 --> 0:07:58.920 was going to be played by an actor who was 0:07:59.360 --> 0:08:03.640 just as cool. Imagine being fourteen years old as I was, 0:08:03.960 --> 0:08:06.679 and they introduce you to the newest teacher on the show, 0:08:06.840 --> 0:08:09.560 who was also the lead singer of a popular SKA 0:08:09.640 --> 0:08:12.800 reggae band, dresses like he just left a VIP table at. 0:08:12.720 --> 0:08:14.080 The Dresden Lounge. 0:08:13.760 --> 0:08:16.640 And was working on some little indie comedy with his 0:08:16.680 --> 0:08:20.679 friends about trying to find work in Hollywood called Swingers. 0:08:20.720 --> 0:08:22.640 To say we were all in awe of the guy 0:08:22.720 --> 0:08:25.760 would be an understatement, and the fans loved the newest 0:08:25.880 --> 0:08:28.160 edition to John Adams High just as much as we did, 0:08:28.360 --> 0:08:30.440 even though it never really felt like the writers knew 0:08:30.480 --> 0:08:33.800 exactly what to do with him, but other writers sure did. 0:08:34.080 --> 0:08:36.280 He'd go on to appear in almost one hundred and. 0:08:36.240 --> 0:08:39.360 Thirty episodes of Becker, and show up on Grey's Anatomy, 0:08:39.480 --> 0:08:42.679 Reno nine to one, one, Scandal, Better Call Saul, and 0:08:42.720 --> 0:08:45.880 most recently, the TV reboot of A League of Their Own, 0:08:46.240 --> 0:08:49.360 Not to mention the movie High Fidelity and that little 0:08:49.360 --> 0:08:52.240 indie movie I mentioned Swingers that ended up defining an 0:08:52.400 --> 0:08:56.199 entire generation. But none of that means anything today because 0:08:56.440 --> 0:08:58.760 we're going to focus on the sixteen. 0:08:58.320 --> 0:08:59.959 Episodes of Boy Meets World. 0:09:00.040 --> 0:09:03.520 He appeared on as the new media are hire and 0:09:03.600 --> 0:09:08.560 mister Turner's best friend. Mister Eli Williams. Please welcome to 0:09:08.640 --> 0:09:11.560 Pod Meets World. Still the coolest guy in the room 0:09:11.640 --> 0:09:20.560 until he says it's dead anyway and leaves. Alex stays air, Yes, 0:09:21.120 --> 0:09:21.920 you sound great. 0:09:22.760 --> 0:09:29.319 Look at professional looking people. How's it going guys? 0:09:29.440 --> 0:09:31.679 Good for you? 0:09:31.679 --> 0:09:34.240 You know, I think I'm all right good? A right, 0:09:34.679 --> 0:09:38.240 I'm feeling good this morning. Wow. Man, great to see 0:09:38.240 --> 0:09:38.640 your face. 0:09:38.800 --> 0:09:40.040 I wish I could give you a hug. 0:09:40.080 --> 0:09:42.360 I feel it feels so weird to just not be 0:09:42.400 --> 0:09:43.959 able to give you a giant hug. 0:09:44.559 --> 0:09:47.120 I'm feeling some take Okay, good you feel you feel 0:09:47.160 --> 0:09:47.959 the hug vibes. 0:09:48.800 --> 0:09:50.920 Maybe maybe I should turn the heat on. I don't know. 0:09:52.120 --> 0:09:55.920 Yes, man, we have been so looking forward to talking 0:09:55.920 --> 0:09:56.240 to you. 0:09:56.840 --> 0:09:57.400 We have been. 0:09:57.720 --> 0:09:59.880 We've had so many great guests on the show, but 0:10:00.080 --> 0:10:02.960 we really from the time we started, we were like, 0:10:03.000 --> 0:10:04.640 oh man, I just can't wait to get to season 0:10:04.640 --> 0:10:05.760 three and talk to Alex. 0:10:06.360 --> 0:10:06.760 Wow. 0:10:07.880 --> 0:10:09.520 So that's how you're doing it. You're doing it season 0:10:09.559 --> 0:10:10.080 by season. 0:10:10.200 --> 0:10:12.880 Yeah, yeah, by episode, episode by episode. 0:10:12.920 --> 0:10:14.960 We're only we've only watched at this point We've only 0:10:14.960 --> 0:10:18.200 watched three episodes of season three three, so we've only 0:10:18.200 --> 0:10:21.360 seen you in two, and that first one super awkward. 0:10:21.760 --> 0:10:24.520 It is so not you, not you. It's just like 0:10:24.600 --> 0:10:26.920 they didn't introduce you. You're just like there. 0:10:27.440 --> 0:10:29.760 Well, the thing is I was also super awkward. 0:10:29.880 --> 0:10:35.800 So so Alex did watch the two same episodes we've seen. 0:10:35.600 --> 0:10:39.400 Okay, okay, okay, good because that first one was like 0:10:40.200 --> 0:10:42.480 we were watching this. The next one it was like, oh, okay, 0:10:42.400 --> 0:10:46.520 now they're introducing this character, like why. 0:10:45.679 --> 0:10:46.800 Which should have been the first one. 0:10:46.880 --> 0:10:50.040 Yeah, But like when you're just it is apartment, you're like, Okay, 0:10:50.559 --> 0:10:52.559 now we know you apparently yes. 0:10:52.600 --> 0:10:54.120 And now there's someone new. 0:10:54.480 --> 0:10:54.880 Yeah. 0:10:55.000 --> 0:10:58.400 And I think they wanted to say, obviously, we're trying 0:10:58.480 --> 0:11:02.000 two friends up boy meets World, where they wanted to 0:11:02.040 --> 0:11:06.920 have that, you know, late twenties cool friendship storyline going. 0:11:07.200 --> 0:11:09.120 But it would have been. 0:11:09.400 --> 0:11:12.640 Nice to know who this guy was instead of just 0:11:12.720 --> 0:11:15.319 being like so it was a little odd that they 0:11:15.559 --> 0:11:16.520 that they did it that way. 0:11:16.559 --> 0:11:18.959 Do you remember your audition for Boy Meets World. 0:11:19.440 --> 0:11:23.840 Here's the thing I will say though, Boy Meets World 0:11:24.120 --> 0:11:27.880 was the innovator for the idea of a teaser because 0:11:27.920 --> 0:11:28.600 that's what that was. 0:11:28.679 --> 0:11:36.640 It's like you're doing up here, just gone right, yeah, 0:11:36.960 --> 0:11:39.480 the mass Man, Yeah, it was. 0:11:39.520 --> 0:11:40.960 It was like, well, at least in the second episode 0:11:40.960 --> 0:11:42.880 they're going to have him at. 0:11:42.800 --> 0:11:46.560 All, Okay, an interesting choice. Yeah, it was so weird. 0:11:50.240 --> 0:11:50.560 It was. 0:11:50.640 --> 0:11:51.480 It was so bizarre. 0:11:51.679 --> 0:11:56.560 But do I remember the audition, yes, Okay, No, I 0:11:56.559 --> 0:12:00.160 don't remember which audition I remember, right. I remember were 0:12:00.200 --> 0:12:02.480 getting the call going yeah, all right, yeah, all right, yeah, 0:12:02.480 --> 0:12:04.480 I'll go in on this show, you know, jaded actor 0:12:04.520 --> 0:12:08.640 at twenty four. However, I was like, yeah, yeah, I'll 0:12:08.679 --> 0:12:14.280 go in, I'll go in. And I think I remember 0:12:14.480 --> 0:12:17.120 being shocked getting a call back or something, and then 0:12:17.760 --> 0:12:20.880 meeting Michael Jacobs and all the writers and it was 0:12:21.080 --> 0:12:26.840 hilariously if I remember correctly, and yeah, I told you guys, 0:12:26.840 --> 0:12:31.199 my memory sucks in general. But if I remember correctly, 0:12:31.240 --> 0:12:33.439 what I love about the writers on that sure that 0:12:34.320 --> 0:12:36.480 they all had watched me work, which was kind of 0:12:36.480 --> 0:12:41.280 like this this you know, it was a combination of 0:12:41.800 --> 0:12:44.280 rooting for you as well as being in awe of 0:12:44.320 --> 0:12:47.160 what you're doing. Yeah, so I remember that, And I 0:12:47.160 --> 0:12:50.960 also remember Michael Jacobs and he did this at the 0:12:51.040 --> 0:12:55.320 audition as well as many times when we were shooting 0:12:55.640 --> 0:12:57.400 where he'd do that thing where he'd pulled me over. 0:12:57.520 --> 0:12:59.600 He was like, yeah, that was good, but you just 0:12:59.640 --> 0:13:03.960 read this same joke three times in a row, so 0:13:04.000 --> 0:13:07.200 there there are variations. And I was like what And 0:13:07.240 --> 0:13:09.320 then I remember him pointing out the variations and I 0:13:09.360 --> 0:13:11.600 was like, well, I'll be damn okay, let's try it again. 0:13:11.880 --> 0:13:14.719 And I think he did that for one of the auditions, 0:13:14.760 --> 0:13:15.920 which was really cool too. 0:13:16.880 --> 0:13:18.480 At least he did that for you. For us, he 0:13:18.520 --> 0:13:20.720 would give us sounds. He'd go, you're going blah blah 0:13:20.720 --> 0:13:27.760 bah oh okay, sorry to. 0:13:27.760 --> 0:13:30.520 You, like you understood English, which. 0:13:34.480 --> 0:13:38.880 You wanted them bah blah blah blah blah music note exactly. 0:13:38.920 --> 0:13:41.880 You know, that's kind of how I work. It's about rhythm, right. 0:13:43.440 --> 0:13:45.520 But you know what else you talk about that look 0:13:45.600 --> 0:13:48.240 that they had, because I'd never really thought about that before. 0:13:48.280 --> 0:13:50.480 But you know what else it was that we've now 0:13:50.520 --> 0:13:53.760 discovered with doing the podcast is how much they paid 0:13:53.760 --> 0:13:57.080 attention to who all the actors were as people to 0:13:57.200 --> 0:14:00.920 try to extract, to try to write specific for them. 0:14:01.280 --> 0:14:03.920 So part of that eagerness you saw behind their eyes 0:14:04.120 --> 0:14:06.360 was what what are his strengths what are his strengths, 0:14:06.360 --> 0:14:07.000 what are his strengths? 0:14:10.280 --> 0:14:12.280 Come up with this character and how do we get. 0:14:12.120 --> 0:14:14.280 A character more like do they have did you have 0:14:14.360 --> 0:14:16.079 any like actual character before? 0:14:16.320 --> 0:14:18.480 Like what was there a sense that before. 0:14:18.200 --> 0:14:20.280 You If I remember what it was, it was just like, 0:14:21.000 --> 0:14:23.440 you know, it was like cocky, No, that's exactly what 0:14:23.480 --> 0:14:26.800 I remember. I remember my notes to myself was like, oh, 0:14:26.840 --> 0:14:30.600 this guy thinks his poop does not stink, right, right, Okay, 0:14:30.800 --> 0:14:33.760 That's what I remember, And so that was definitely acting. 0:14:37.960 --> 0:14:43.640 That's what comes across in the second episode with PHOENI, Right. 0:14:42.320 --> 0:14:46.200 That's what it was. It's like this insecurity being covered 0:14:46.240 --> 0:14:49.800 by this sense of ego and arrogance and you know, 0:14:50.200 --> 0:14:54.320 he's a puppy dog, you know. Yeah, if I remember, 0:14:54.480 --> 0:14:57.000 that's what I remembered going into it, thinking. 0:14:56.800 --> 0:14:58.480 That would have been nice if they showed that at 0:14:58.520 --> 0:15:02.800 all in the first episode, even slightly. But the thing 0:15:02.880 --> 0:15:05.360 that was cool at least was so the thing I 0:15:05.400 --> 0:15:08.520 remember most about your first the first episode is that 0:15:08.600 --> 0:15:11.040 we had a really what we call a wu audience. 0:15:11.080 --> 0:15:13.520 So it was like every time you'd say something, people 0:15:13.560 --> 0:15:14.400 would go wooo. 0:15:15.320 --> 0:15:18.040 So yeah, it was by your first line. It was 0:15:18.160 --> 0:15:19.640 like they were already. 0:15:19.840 --> 0:15:21.960 They were super behind you, even though they had no 0:15:22.080 --> 0:15:24.200 idea who you were. They were like this guy, I 0:15:24.280 --> 0:15:24.760 love him. 0:15:25.280 --> 0:15:26.800 Yeah, it was a funny thing. When I was watching 0:15:26.880 --> 0:15:28.800 it too, I was like, wow, I just like shot 0:15:28.880 --> 0:15:32.120 out of a cannon. I know exactly. 0:15:33.240 --> 0:15:34.600 Yep, yes, yeah. 0:15:34.600 --> 0:15:38.720 Season three started with a bang, that's for sure, Alex. 0:15:38.760 --> 0:15:41.240 How much sitcom had you done before Boy Meets World? 0:15:41.520 --> 0:15:43.600 You want to hear the funny thing? Boy Meets World 0:15:43.760 --> 0:15:46.160 was the first sitcom I think I was not fired 0:15:46.200 --> 0:15:50.400 from really, although I only did one season, so I 0:15:50.440 --> 0:15:54.720 had a minute going, hey, wait a minute, yeah, but yeah, 0:15:54.720 --> 0:15:57.680 because I'd had like issues, like i'd go do a 0:15:57.720 --> 0:15:59.560 day or two and they'd be like, yeah, don't, don't, 0:15:59.560 --> 0:16:01.000 don't come for the reader. 0:16:01.400 --> 0:16:05.480 Really yeah, And so I had passage. Man, you gotta 0:16:05.480 --> 0:16:06.120 get fired. 0:16:06.240 --> 0:16:08.520 Man, you know. And of course it's like, hey, well 0:16:08.560 --> 0:16:12.000 you know what I got paid for? Old episode, right right? 0:16:12.480 --> 0:16:14.560 But I think Boy Meets World was the first one 0:16:14.680 --> 0:16:16.680 where I was like, the second episode, I was like 0:16:18.560 --> 0:16:22.720 I'm back, Oh okay, third episode, I was like really 0:16:22.960 --> 0:16:29.720 still man, Yeah, so I think I've done. I think 0:16:29.720 --> 0:16:31.960 I did an episode. No, I know, I think I 0:16:31.960 --> 0:16:35.600 did two sitcoms. I did an episode of Free Spirits 0:16:37.080 --> 0:16:41.320 and a Different World, which is hilarious. You know the 0:16:41.360 --> 0:16:45.120 great thing about getting older guys is like when people 0:16:45.200 --> 0:16:52.880 throw your old work at you and you go, oh yeah, 0:16:52.920 --> 0:16:55.080 and then I yeah, I think I did something else where. 0:16:55.120 --> 0:17:01.240 I was shooting a pilot and yeah, got fired after 0:17:01.400 --> 0:17:03.840 like you know, four or five days. I'm like, guys, 0:17:03.840 --> 0:17:04.840 we're about to tape. 0:17:05.680 --> 0:17:07.840 Are you sure you want to fire me the day 0:17:07.920 --> 0:17:08.800 before we shoot it? 0:17:09.400 --> 0:17:13.840 Yeah? Yeah, And you know what hindsight is twenty twenty 0:17:13.960 --> 0:17:16.679 because I was like, man, I'm glad that didn't go 0:17:16.720 --> 0:17:18.000 anywhere exactly. 0:17:18.440 --> 0:17:19.520 That happens quite a bit. 0:17:19.960 --> 0:17:23.879 Yeah, yeah, So yeah, Boy Meets World was my first, 0:17:24.200 --> 0:17:28.639 like steady, okay, let's learn the craft of doing a sitcom. Wow. 0:17:29.600 --> 0:17:32.720 You know, I feel like in every article we read 0:17:32.760 --> 0:17:36.400 about swingers, we hear about this just very cool group 0:17:36.480 --> 0:17:39.399 of guys Jon Favre, Vince Vaughn, Ron Livingston, Adam Scott, 0:17:39.480 --> 0:17:41.840 Mike White, all just trying to make it in Hollywood 0:17:41.880 --> 0:17:44.320 and going to failed audition after failed audition in hopes 0:17:44.359 --> 0:17:45.480 of ending up. 0:17:45.400 --> 0:17:46.200 On a sitcom. 0:17:46.600 --> 0:17:49.960 Can you explain what that scene was like, especially considering 0:17:50.000 --> 0:17:52.040 that all those names like run Hollywood. 0:17:52.080 --> 0:17:54.000 Now you want to hear the funny you know, I 0:17:54.040 --> 0:17:55.600 was shooting that while we were doing the show. 0:17:55.680 --> 0:17:57.720 I knew it was your car. I remember it was 0:17:57.800 --> 0:17:59.640 your car that Vince Vaughn. 0:17:59.480 --> 0:18:00.560 Drives in the movie. 0:18:00.840 --> 0:18:02.760 It was kind of cool because I remember going, man, 0:18:02.800 --> 0:18:06.640 I'm living the dream. I'm like, I'm doing the sitcom 0:18:06.720 --> 0:18:10.520 during the day, which is awesome, and then at night, 0:18:10.560 --> 0:18:13.639 I'm hanging out with the boys, you know, doing this 0:18:13.720 --> 0:18:17.600 other game you know, which he wrote for us, right, 0:18:18.200 --> 0:18:21.080 you know what I'm saying. I mean, you guys remember me. 0:18:21.200 --> 0:18:25.679 That was like Swingers. Me was the caricature of me 0:18:25.880 --> 0:18:37.040 times ten. I wish I could be that cool. Okay, 0:18:37.600 --> 0:18:38.760 it was, yeah. 0:18:38.800 --> 0:18:41.080 No, you were that cool even telling me about Swingers, 0:18:41.080 --> 0:18:43.280 because I remember you said, you said, I'm doing this 0:18:43.320 --> 0:18:46.119 little movie called Swingers, and I was like, what is it. 0:18:46.200 --> 0:18:50.800 You're like, you'll hear about it, you knew, And then 0:18:50.800 --> 0:18:52.960 of course I did, like the next year going to 0:18:53.000 --> 0:18:53.520 the movie theater. 0:18:53.560 --> 0:18:55.720 I was like obsessed, like, oh my god, that's the 0:18:55.720 --> 0:18:58.160 boy that I was. You were just like you'll hear 0:18:58.200 --> 0:18:59.160 about Yeah. 0:18:59.440 --> 0:19:01.800 I remember any a day coming into work, like you 0:19:01.960 --> 0:19:04.000 don't don't talk to me really tired. 0:19:04.160 --> 0:19:07.600 Yeah, And I remember talking to you one day on 0:19:07.640 --> 0:19:09.320 set and finding out when you were like, yeah, I'm 0:19:09.320 --> 0:19:11.320 in a band, the Hecats. 0:19:11.480 --> 0:19:13.679 I was like the Hadcats because I. 0:19:13.560 --> 0:19:16.560 Was like fourteen, I knew nothing about anything in your world. 0:19:16.640 --> 0:19:18.600 You were just so cool. 0:19:19.520 --> 0:19:21.960 So you had you done PCU by the time you 0:19:22.000 --> 0:19:24.520 got to Boy Meets World you did right. Yeah, yeah, 0:19:24.720 --> 0:19:26.560 because I recognize you walked down That was one of 0:19:26.600 --> 0:19:28.200