1 00:00:00,160 --> 00:00:19,880 Speaker 1: This episode was recorded on June eighth, twenty twenty three. 2 00:00:20,920 --> 00:00:25,239 Speaker 2: How often do you update the apps on your phone? 3 00:00:25,840 --> 00:00:27,480 Speaker 3: I have them set to update automatically. 4 00:00:27,800 --> 00:00:29,120 Speaker 4: Yeah, it just does it automatically. 5 00:00:29,640 --> 00:00:31,360 Speaker 2: But then why will I look at because I'll look 6 00:00:31,400 --> 00:00:34,199 Speaker 2: down at that my phone occasionally and it'll say like 7 00:00:34,400 --> 00:00:36,920 Speaker 2: that you have sixty two updates, and it'll just I'll 8 00:00:36,920 --> 00:00:38,920 Speaker 2: have to then actually go in and say update. 9 00:00:38,960 --> 00:00:42,920 Speaker 4: All okay, Grandpa, go to settings, Like what's a setting? 10 00:00:45,040 --> 00:00:46,919 Speaker 5: First of all, you're you're using an iPhone, right, You're 11 00:00:46,960 --> 00:00:50,880 Speaker 5: not like danding out without um, yes, I'm annoying every 12 00:00:51,440 --> 00:00:52,559 Speaker 5: everyone in everybody's dad. 13 00:00:52,600 --> 00:00:54,560 Speaker 1: You don't have a superior phone. You have a normal, 14 00:00:54,720 --> 00:00:58,920 Speaker 1: janky phone, got it? Okay? 15 00:01:00,080 --> 00:01:02,120 Speaker 5: Okay, you go, yeah, you just go to settings, man, 16 00:01:02,160 --> 00:01:03,680 Speaker 5: and you just put it like it has like a 17 00:01:03,680 --> 00:01:06,840 Speaker 5: whole updates area, and I swear you just type like automatically, 18 00:01:07,240 --> 00:01:09,400 Speaker 5: and then then it'll do it at night while you're 19 00:01:09,640 --> 00:01:11,600 Speaker 5: correct like, well, no, that's what I'm hoping it does 20 00:01:11,640 --> 00:01:13,560 Speaker 5: that and it sings to me and it tucks me 21 00:01:13,600 --> 00:01:14,640 Speaker 5: in and it keeps me safe. 22 00:01:14,720 --> 00:01:17,600 Speaker 2: That's what I'm hoping my phone does as well. For 23 00:01:17,640 --> 00:01:19,520 Speaker 2: the money I'm paying, that's what it better do. With 24 00:01:19,560 --> 00:01:22,039 Speaker 2: how expensive these things are nowadays, it better curl me 25 00:01:22,080 --> 00:01:22,960 Speaker 2: and hold me at night. 26 00:01:23,720 --> 00:01:25,280 Speaker 6: I mean, come on, I've been. 27 00:01:25,200 --> 00:01:28,080 Speaker 5: Trying so hard to institute like a putting the phone 28 00:01:28,080 --> 00:01:30,400 Speaker 5: down when I walk in the house rule, and I've 29 00:01:30,480 --> 00:01:34,039 Speaker 5: like discussed since the moment India was born. And now 30 00:01:34,040 --> 00:01:35,920 Speaker 5: he's old enough to actually call me out on it. 31 00:01:36,040 --> 00:01:38,279 Speaker 5: He'll be like, dat, why are you looking at your phone? 32 00:01:38,440 --> 00:01:40,560 Speaker 4: Oh it's the worst. It's the worst feeling to be 33 00:01:40,600 --> 00:01:40,959 Speaker 4: called out. 34 00:01:41,120 --> 00:01:41,320 Speaker 7: Well. 35 00:01:41,400 --> 00:01:45,080 Speaker 1: Yeah, speaking of tech, have you guys seen the new 36 00:01:45,160 --> 00:01:50,240 Speaker 1: Apple VR headset vision pro. I think it's called No 37 00:01:51,040 --> 00:01:54,320 Speaker 1: my gosh, you guys. So Jensen is on the side 38 00:01:54,360 --> 00:01:54,800 Speaker 1: of it. 39 00:01:54,880 --> 00:01:57,280 Speaker 3: Doesn't look dumb. It looks cool. 40 00:01:58,160 --> 00:02:01,280 Speaker 1: Okay, it is exactly what you would think of a 41 00:02:01,400 --> 00:02:05,360 Speaker 1: VR looking, you know, headset thing you wear across your eyes. 42 00:02:06,040 --> 00:02:09,320 Speaker 1: And then it's like but so when you put it 43 00:02:09,360 --> 00:02:12,880 Speaker 1: on it apparently you be it becomes a three d 44 00:02:13,040 --> 00:02:14,280 Speaker 1: oh eastern look at that. 45 00:02:14,320 --> 00:02:15,040 Speaker 3: Okay, So there it. 46 00:02:15,040 --> 00:02:19,400 Speaker 1: Is, right, But then the view for you inside is 47 00:02:19,440 --> 00:02:23,400 Speaker 1: that it's your environment. So it's your house, like your 48 00:02:24,639 --> 00:02:28,160 Speaker 1: correct augmented reality, and then all of your apps in 49 00:02:28,200 --> 00:02:30,600 Speaker 1: front of you, so now it's you know, any one 50 00:02:30,600 --> 00:02:36,080 Speaker 1: of those movies we've seen where the apps and that's 51 00:02:36,560 --> 00:02:38,960 Speaker 1: exactly what you can do now, you can just flick 52 00:02:39,000 --> 00:02:43,880 Speaker 1: your wrist. But in the advertisement for it, every single person. 53 00:02:43,880 --> 00:02:46,359 Speaker 3: Is alone in their house. 54 00:02:47,040 --> 00:02:52,359 Speaker 1: See Jensen's wearing my Mantai masks that. 55 00:02:52,360 --> 00:02:53,200 Speaker 6: I see you with. 56 00:02:55,800 --> 00:02:57,520 Speaker 4: Looks awesome, dude, it's so cool. 57 00:02:57,840 --> 00:02:58,400 Speaker 6: That works. 58 00:02:58,440 --> 00:02:59,000 Speaker 4: So cool. 59 00:03:00,600 --> 00:03:03,399 Speaker 2: Does anybody else remember when your parents used to tell 60 00:03:03,440 --> 00:03:06,000 Speaker 2: you don't get that close to the screen because it's 61 00:03:06,040 --> 00:03:08,440 Speaker 2: bad for your eyes. Now we're wearing the screen on 62 00:03:08,440 --> 00:03:09,200 Speaker 2: our feet, we wear the. 63 00:03:09,200 --> 00:03:10,040 Speaker 3: Screen on your face. 64 00:03:10,200 --> 00:03:13,240 Speaker 1: And then the people who they show that aren't alone, 65 00:03:13,360 --> 00:03:16,639 Speaker 1: it's like, oh, you can see them and they can 66 00:03:16,680 --> 00:03:18,920 Speaker 1: see you. So you can see out of it, like 67 00:03:18,960 --> 00:03:20,720 Speaker 1: if you were sitting in a room. 68 00:03:20,360 --> 00:03:22,440 Speaker 5: Almost like you were really next to each other. It 69 00:03:22,600 --> 00:03:25,040 Speaker 5: like it's almost like you were seeing each other in 70 00:03:25,200 --> 00:03:25,840 Speaker 5: real life. 71 00:03:26,120 --> 00:03:27,279 Speaker 3: Oh my exactly. 72 00:03:28,320 --> 00:03:31,000 Speaker 1: So then the other thing is the fact that you 73 00:03:31,040 --> 00:03:34,840 Speaker 1: can see your own place. I'm like, don't most people 74 00:03:35,000 --> 00:03:36,960 Speaker 1: not want to be in their own house? 75 00:03:37,080 --> 00:03:38,360 Speaker 3: Like, wouldn't you kind of. 76 00:03:38,320 --> 00:03:40,160 Speaker 6: Be like one thousand dollars to be in my living? 77 00:03:40,440 --> 00:03:42,440 Speaker 3: I put I paid thirty five hundred. 78 00:03:42,120 --> 00:03:44,080 Speaker 1: Dollars for this VR headset and like it to still 79 00:03:44,120 --> 00:03:45,840 Speaker 1: look at my crappy apartment happen. 80 00:03:46,040 --> 00:03:47,360 Speaker 4: Man, we've been primed. 81 00:03:47,360 --> 00:03:50,920 Speaker 5: I mean, think about the way the pandemic accelerated our 82 00:03:51,000 --> 00:03:54,520 Speaker 5: comfort with video conference. Yeah, you know, like this would 83 00:03:54,560 --> 00:03:56,920 Speaker 5: have been unheard of for me to think that we 84 00:03:56,920 --> 00:03:58,960 Speaker 5: were actually going to have a conversation to talk to each. 85 00:03:58,800 --> 00:04:01,119 Speaker 6: Other, and now we do it every week, yes, yeah, 86 00:04:01,120 --> 00:04:03,360 Speaker 6: twice a week. And it's also become going. 87 00:04:03,400 --> 00:04:05,760 Speaker 2: It's just become normalized because what we're saying is we 88 00:04:05,800 --> 00:04:07,320 Speaker 2: haven't seen each other in a while and be like, 89 00:04:07,360 --> 00:04:09,640 Speaker 2: see you tomorrow, and it's still like I haven't seen 90 00:04:09,680 --> 00:04:10,680 Speaker 2: you guys in a while. 91 00:04:10,920 --> 00:04:13,760 Speaker 6: So it's yeah, it's weird. But the other thing room's 92 00:04:13,760 --> 00:04:14,680 Speaker 6: gotten smaller. 93 00:04:14,440 --> 00:04:16,760 Speaker 1: Is that we when we first started this podcast, we 94 00:04:16,760 --> 00:04:20,520 Speaker 1: were all in one hundred percent agreement that it needed 95 00:04:20,839 --> 00:04:22,880 Speaker 1: to be in person, that our. 96 00:04:23,000 --> 00:04:24,960 Speaker 3: Energy, that are what you know. 97 00:04:25,080 --> 00:04:27,200 Speaker 1: And by the way, there is some stuff that's really 98 00:04:27,240 --> 00:04:30,200 Speaker 1: great about being that you can't duplicate on zoom, but 99 00:04:30,839 --> 00:04:34,719 Speaker 1: about eighty five percent of it ninety percent we can, 100 00:04:34,920 --> 00:04:37,960 Speaker 1: and it just became so much easier, so much easier. 101 00:04:38,000 --> 00:04:41,960 Speaker 5: So yeah, I don't know, it's just there's this amazing 102 00:04:42,080 --> 00:04:45,479 Speaker 5: passage that David Foster Wallace wrote, I forget what book it. 103 00:04:45,480 --> 00:04:46,920 Speaker 5: I think it might have it might have been its 104 00:04:46,960 --> 00:04:49,360 Speaker 5: own essay or no, I think it was in Infinite Jess. 105 00:04:49,400 --> 00:04:50,240 Speaker 4: It's like you can look it up. 106 00:04:50,279 --> 00:04:53,360 Speaker 5: It's amazing, he wrote, you know, because it's it takes 107 00:04:53,400 --> 00:04:56,280 Speaker 5: place in the future, and it's just an analysis of 108 00:04:56,360 --> 00:04:59,839 Speaker 5: why video conferencing didn't take off, like didn't become a thing. 109 00:05:00,200 --> 00:05:02,120 Speaker 5: And he's you know, he's writing this in the nineties, 110 00:05:02,160 --> 00:05:05,160 Speaker 5: like way before the technology existed, but he predicts that 111 00:05:05,320 --> 00:05:09,520 Speaker 5: like what we why we will not adopt video conferencing, 112 00:05:09,560 --> 00:05:11,800 Speaker 5: And he's absolutely right. It's what happened when like FaceTime 113 00:05:11,839 --> 00:05:13,440 Speaker 5: came out. It was like people used it to like 114 00:05:13,480 --> 00:05:15,920 Speaker 5: look at their babies, right, and then that was about it, 115 00:05:15,960 --> 00:05:18,560 Speaker 5: like nobody else used But then, you know, what he 116 00:05:18,600 --> 00:05:20,919 Speaker 5: describes is like how you can tell when somebody's not 117 00:05:20,960 --> 00:05:22,680 Speaker 5: listening to you when you're looking at them, like when 118 00:05:22,720 --> 00:05:25,200 Speaker 5: they get a little bored, right, Whereas like on a 119 00:05:25,240 --> 00:05:27,960 Speaker 5: phone call, there was like the natural habit you just 120 00:05:28,080 --> 00:05:30,240 Speaker 5: you assume somebody was engaged with it even while they 121 00:05:30,240 --> 00:05:32,760 Speaker 5: were like making the dinner or whatever. And that was 122 00:05:32,800 --> 00:05:35,680 Speaker 5: like that sort of disembodied voice. Actually made for a 123 00:05:35,760 --> 00:05:40,279 Speaker 5: cool social engagement that like zoom requires like the the 124 00:05:40,360 --> 00:05:43,200 Speaker 5: constant listening face or the nod air and it requires 125 00:05:43,240 --> 00:05:45,599 Speaker 5: a lot more energy. Right, But I think you know 126 00:05:45,640 --> 00:05:48,040 Speaker 5: he was correct and that it wasn't going to be adopted, 127 00:05:48,040 --> 00:05:50,520 Speaker 5: But then the pandemic just made it happen like it 128 00:05:50,560 --> 00:05:51,239 Speaker 5: was the only option. 129 00:05:51,320 --> 00:05:52,600 Speaker 4: It was our social life for so. 130 00:05:52,640 --> 00:05:55,159 Speaker 6: Long, and it very quickly. 131 00:05:55,160 --> 00:05:57,599 Speaker 2: Do my danielle ficial impression of when I can tell 132 00:05:57,680 --> 00:06:01,440 Speaker 2: she's not listening and she and she's writing somebody else. 133 00:06:01,560 --> 00:06:08,800 Speaker 2: Watch and you see the hands got like you can 134 00:06:08,839 --> 00:06:11,520 Speaker 2: see you tell she's typing and. 135 00:06:12,040 --> 00:06:14,320 Speaker 3: I'm still looking at you. He's looking at you. 136 00:06:14,520 --> 00:06:17,000 Speaker 6: But when is it going and she's totally talking to 137 00:06:17,040 --> 00:06:17,480 Speaker 6: somebody else? 138 00:06:17,520 --> 00:06:18,080 Speaker 4: It's the funny. 139 00:06:18,120 --> 00:06:20,080 Speaker 6: I'm like, oh, yeah, Daniel's in a whole nother conversation 140 00:06:20,200 --> 00:06:20,480 Speaker 6: right now. 141 00:06:20,520 --> 00:06:22,320 Speaker 5: I don't think I can do that. I can't type, 142 00:06:22,440 --> 00:06:24,640 Speaker 5: and like, do you want to be that's. 143 00:06:24,520 --> 00:06:28,000 Speaker 1: Because you have a terrible iPhone And on my Android, 144 00:06:28,120 --> 00:06:31,880 Speaker 1: I have a swipe text feature where all I have 145 00:06:31,960 --> 00:06:32,600 Speaker 1: to do is. 146 00:06:32,600 --> 00:06:36,200 Speaker 5: Drag me jumping into people's text conversations and ruining them. 147 00:06:36,279 --> 00:06:38,520 Speaker 6: Yeah, I know, we can't. 148 00:06:38,960 --> 00:06:40,400 Speaker 4: We can't tap back to Danielle. 149 00:06:40,560 --> 00:06:44,440 Speaker 2: I tried were up that personal zoom yesterday all of us, 150 00:06:44,480 --> 00:06:46,919 Speaker 2: and the zoom ended and I tried to FaceTime you 151 00:06:46,960 --> 00:06:49,400 Speaker 2: all and I had to send like what do you 152 00:06:49,560 --> 00:06:49,880 Speaker 2: go through? 153 00:06:50,000 --> 00:06:51,680 Speaker 6: Nine levels? Like I was going to Nora. 154 00:06:51,560 --> 00:06:53,160 Speaker 2: D And both people had to turn the keys at 155 00:06:53,160 --> 00:06:57,400 Speaker 2: the same time to launch the missile to get Danielle. 156 00:06:58,360 --> 00:07:01,280 Speaker 2: It was ridiculous. Where we're at gon for daniel fit like, 157 00:07:01,320 --> 00:07:06,400 Speaker 2: oh man, So yeah, that was We'll talk about it later. 158 00:07:07,480 --> 00:07:10,559 Speaker 3: Yeah, Grandpa, bring your phone over and I'll hook you up. Okay. 159 00:07:10,800 --> 00:07:11,920 Speaker 4: Also, just google this. 160 00:07:12,040 --> 00:07:18,800 Speaker 5: I'm sure there's answers for all the. 161 00:07:16,440 --> 00:07:17,200 Speaker 4: What's a Google? 162 00:07:17,280 --> 00:07:21,240 Speaker 3: Put your VR headset on and ask you what Hey. 163 00:07:20,880 --> 00:07:21,920 Speaker 4: I'm on a zoom with you. 164 00:07:22,160 --> 00:07:23,680 Speaker 6: It's like I'm really in this room. 165 00:07:23,760 --> 00:07:26,840 Speaker 3: Still Welcome to Pod meets World. 166 00:07:26,840 --> 00:07:30,240 Speaker 6: I'm Daniel Fischel, I'm right or Strong, and I'm Wilfordell. 167 00:07:40,440 --> 00:07:43,400 Speaker 1: As we enter season three of Boy Meets World, it's 168 00:07:43,440 --> 00:07:46,240 Speaker 1: difficult to brace for what's to come when you don't 169 00:07:46,280 --> 00:07:49,960 Speaker 1: really remember much. But we did know one thing this 170 00:07:50,000 --> 00:07:53,840 Speaker 1: season around. We were about to meet the coolest new 171 00:07:53,960 --> 00:07:56,880 Speaker 1: character Boy Meets World has seen so far, and he 172 00:07:57,040 --> 00:07:58,920 Speaker 1: was going to be played by an actor who was 173 00:07:59,360 --> 00:08:03,640 Speaker 1: just as cool. Imagine being fourteen years old as I was, 174 00:08:03,960 --> 00:08:06,679 Speaker 1: and they introduce you to the newest teacher on the show, 175 00:08:06,840 --> 00:08:09,560 Speaker 1: who was also the lead singer of a popular SKA 176 00:08:09,640 --> 00:08:12,800 Speaker 1: reggae band, dresses like he just left a VIP table at. 177 00:08:12,720 --> 00:08:14,080 Speaker 3: The Dresden Lounge. 178 00:08:13,760 --> 00:08:16,640 Speaker 1: And was working on some little indie comedy with his 179 00:08:16,680 --> 00:08:20,679 Speaker 1: friends about trying to find work in Hollywood called Swingers. 180 00:08:20,720 --> 00:08:22,640 Speaker 1: To say we were all in awe of the guy 181 00:08:22,720 --> 00:08:25,760 Speaker 1: would be an understatement, and the fans loved the newest 182 00:08:25,880 --> 00:08:28,160 Speaker 1: edition to John Adams High just as much as we did, 183 00:08:28,360 --> 00:08:30,440 Speaker 1: even though it never really felt like the writers knew 184 00:08:30,480 --> 00:08:33,800 Speaker 1: exactly what to do with him, but other writers sure did. 185 00:08:34,080 --> 00:08:36,280 Speaker 3: He'd go on to appear in almost one hundred and. 186 00:08:36,240 --> 00:08:39,360 Speaker 1: Thirty episodes of Becker, and show up on Grey's Anatomy, 187 00:08:39,480 --> 00:08:42,679 Speaker 1: Reno nine to one, one, Scandal, Better Call Saul, and 188 00:08:42,720 --> 00:08:45,880 Speaker 1: most recently, the TV reboot of A League of Their Own, 189 00:08:46,240 --> 00:08:49,360 Speaker 1: Not to mention the movie High Fidelity and that little 190 00:08:49,360 --> 00:08:52,240 Speaker 1: indie movie I mentioned Swingers that ended up defining an 191 00:08:52,400 --> 00:08:56,199 Speaker 1: entire generation. But none of that means anything today because 192 00:08:56,440 --> 00:08:58,760 Speaker 1: we're going to focus on the sixteen. 193 00:08:58,320 --> 00:08:59,959 Speaker 3: Episodes of Boy Meets World. 194 00:09:00,040 --> 00:09:03,520 Speaker 1: He appeared on as the new media are hire and 195 00:09:03,600 --> 00:09:08,560 Speaker 1: mister Turner's best friend. Mister Eli Williams. Please welcome to 196 00:09:08,640 --> 00:09:11,560 Speaker 1: Pod Meets World. Still the coolest guy in the room 197 00:09:11,640 --> 00:09:20,560 Speaker 1: until he says it's dead anyway and leaves. Alex stays air, Yes, 198 00:09:21,120 --> 00:09:21,920 Speaker 1: you sound great. 199 00:09:22,760 --> 00:09:29,319 Speaker 7: Look at professional looking people. How's it going guys? 200 00:09:29,440 --> 00:09:31,679 Speaker 4: Good for you? 201 00:09:31,679 --> 00:09:34,240 Speaker 7: You know, I think I'm all right good? A right, 202 00:09:34,679 --> 00:09:38,240 Speaker 7: I'm feeling good this morning. Wow. Man, great to see 203 00:09:38,240 --> 00:09:38,640 Speaker 7: your face. 204 00:09:38,800 --> 00:09:40,040 Speaker 3: I wish I could give you a hug. 205 00:09:40,080 --> 00:09:42,360 Speaker 1: I feel it feels so weird to just not be 206 00:09:42,400 --> 00:09:43,959 Speaker 1: able to give you a giant hug. 207 00:09:44,559 --> 00:09:47,120 Speaker 3: I'm feeling some take Okay, good you feel you feel 208 00:09:47,160 --> 00:09:47,959 Speaker 3: the hug vibes. 209 00:09:48,800 --> 00:09:50,920 Speaker 7: Maybe maybe I should turn the heat on. I don't know. 210 00:09:52,120 --> 00:09:55,920 Speaker 1: Yes, man, we have been so looking forward to talking 211 00:09:55,920 --> 00:09:56,240 Speaker 1: to you. 212 00:09:56,840 --> 00:09:57,400 Speaker 3: We have been. 213 00:09:57,720 --> 00:09:59,880 Speaker 1: We've had so many great guests on the show, but 214 00:10:00,080 --> 00:10:02,960 Speaker 1: we really from the time we started, we were like, 215 00:10:03,000 --> 00:10:04,640 Speaker 1: oh man, I just can't wait to get to season 216 00:10:04,640 --> 00:10:05,760 Speaker 1: three and talk to Alex. 217 00:10:06,360 --> 00:10:06,760 Speaker 8: Wow. 218 00:10:07,880 --> 00:10:09,520 Speaker 7: So that's how you're doing it. You're doing it season 219 00:10:09,559 --> 00:10:10,080 Speaker 7: by season. 220 00:10:10,200 --> 00:10:12,880 Speaker 6: Yeah, yeah, by episode, episode by episode. 221 00:10:12,920 --> 00:10:14,960 Speaker 5: We're only we've only watched at this point We've only 222 00:10:14,960 --> 00:10:18,200 Speaker 5: watched three episodes of season three three, so we've only 223 00:10:18,200 --> 00:10:21,360 Speaker 5: seen you in two, and that first one super awkward. 224 00:10:21,760 --> 00:10:24,520 Speaker 4: It is so not you, not you. It's just like 225 00:10:24,600 --> 00:10:26,920 Speaker 4: they didn't introduce you. You're just like there. 226 00:10:27,440 --> 00:10:29,760 Speaker 7: Well, the thing is I was also super awkward. 227 00:10:29,880 --> 00:10:35,800 Speaker 3: So so Alex did watch the two same episodes we've seen. 228 00:10:35,600 --> 00:10:39,400 Speaker 5: Okay, okay, okay, good because that first one was like 229 00:10:40,200 --> 00:10:42,480 Speaker 5: we were watching this. The next one it was like, oh, okay, 230 00:10:42,400 --> 00:10:46,520 Speaker 5: now they're introducing this character, like why. 231 00:10:45,679 --> 00:10:46,800 Speaker 4: Which should have been the first one. 232 00:10:46,880 --> 00:10:50,040 Speaker 2: Yeah, But like when you're just it is apartment, you're like, Okay, 233 00:10:50,559 --> 00:10:52,559 Speaker 2: now we know you apparently yes. 234 00:10:52,600 --> 00:10:54,120 Speaker 7: And now there's someone new. 235 00:10:54,480 --> 00:10:54,880 Speaker 3: Yeah. 236 00:10:55,000 --> 00:10:58,400 Speaker 1: And I think they wanted to say, obviously, we're trying 237 00:10:58,480 --> 00:11:02,000 Speaker 1: two friends up boy meets World, where they wanted to 238 00:11:02,040 --> 00:11:06,920 Speaker 1: have that, you know, late twenties cool friendship storyline going. 239 00:11:07,200 --> 00:11:09,120 Speaker 3: But it would have been. 240 00:11:09,400 --> 00:11:12,640 Speaker 1: Nice to know who this guy was instead of just 241 00:11:12,720 --> 00:11:15,319 Speaker 1: being like so it was a little odd that they 242 00:11:15,559 --> 00:11:16,520 Speaker 1: that they did it that way. 243 00:11:16,559 --> 00:11:18,959 Speaker 3: Do you remember your audition for Boy Meets World. 244 00:11:19,440 --> 00:11:23,840 Speaker 7: Here's the thing I will say though, Boy Meets World 245 00:11:24,120 --> 00:11:27,880 Speaker 7: was the innovator for the idea of a teaser because 246 00:11:27,920 --> 00:11:28,600 Speaker 7: that's what that was. 247 00:11:28,679 --> 00:11:36,640 Speaker 9: It's like you're doing up here, just gone right, yeah, 248 00:11:36,960 --> 00:11:39,480 Speaker 9: the mass Man, Yeah, it was. 249 00:11:39,520 --> 00:11:40,960 Speaker 2: It was like, well, at least in the second episode 250 00:11:40,960 --> 00:11:42,880 Speaker 2: they're going to have him at. 251 00:11:42,800 --> 00:11:46,560 Speaker 6: All, Okay, an interesting choice. Yeah, it was so weird. 252 00:11:50,240 --> 00:11:50,560 Speaker 7: It was. 253 00:11:50,640 --> 00:11:51,480 Speaker 6: It was so bizarre. 254 00:11:51,679 --> 00:11:56,560 Speaker 7: But do I remember the audition, yes, Okay, No, I 255 00:11:56,559 --> 00:12:00,160 Speaker 7: don't remember which audition I remember, right. I remember were 256 00:12:00,200 --> 00:12:02,480 Speaker 7: getting the call going yeah, all right, yeah, all right, yeah, 257 00:12:02,480 --> 00:12:04,480 Speaker 7: I'll go in on this show, you know, jaded actor 258 00:12:04,520 --> 00:12:08,640 Speaker 7: at twenty four. However, I was like, yeah, yeah, I'll 259 00:12:08,679 --> 00:12:14,280 Speaker 7: go in, I'll go in. And I think I remember 260 00:12:14,480 --> 00:12:17,120 Speaker 7: being shocked getting a call back or something, and then 261 00:12:17,760 --> 00:12:20,880 Speaker 7: meeting Michael Jacobs and all the writers and it was 262 00:12:21,080 --> 00:12:26,840 Speaker 7: hilariously if I remember correctly, and yeah, I told you guys, 263 00:12:26,840 --> 00:12:31,199 Speaker 7: my memory sucks in general. But if I remember correctly, 264 00:12:31,240 --> 00:12:33,439 Speaker 7: what I love about the writers on that sure that 265 00:12:34,320 --> 00:12:36,480 Speaker 7: they all had watched me work, which was kind of 266 00:12:36,480 --> 00:12:41,280 Speaker 7: like this this you know, it was a combination of 267 00:12:41,800 --> 00:12:44,280 Speaker 7: rooting for you as well as being in awe of 268 00:12:44,320 --> 00:12:47,160 Speaker 7: what you're doing. Yeah, so I remember that, And I 269 00:12:47,160 --> 00:12:50,960 Speaker 7: also remember Michael Jacobs and he did this at the 270 00:12:51,040 --> 00:12:55,320 Speaker 7: audition as well as many times when we were shooting 271 00:12:55,640 --> 00:12:57,400 Speaker 7: where he'd do that thing where he'd pulled me over. 272 00:12:57,520 --> 00:12:59,600 Speaker 7: He was like, yeah, that was good, but you just 273 00:12:59,640 --> 00:13:03,960 Speaker 7: read this same joke three times in a row, so 274 00:13:04,000 --> 00:13:07,200 Speaker 7: there there are variations. And I was like what And 275 00:13:07,240 --> 00:13:09,320 Speaker 7: then I remember him pointing out the variations and I 276 00:13:09,360 --> 00:13:11,600 Speaker 7: was like, well, I'll be damn okay, let's try it again. 277 00:13:11,880 --> 00:13:14,719 Speaker 7: And I think he did that for one of the auditions, 278 00:13:14,760 --> 00:13:15,920 Speaker 7: which was really cool too. 279 00:13:16,880 --> 00:13:18,480 Speaker 2: At least he did that for you. For us, he 280 00:13:18,520 --> 00:13:20,720 Speaker 2: would give us sounds. He'd go, you're going blah blah 281 00:13:20,720 --> 00:13:27,760 Speaker 2: bah oh okay, sorry to. 282 00:13:27,760 --> 00:13:30,520 Speaker 3: You, like you understood English, which. 283 00:13:34,480 --> 00:13:38,880 Speaker 1: You wanted them bah blah blah blah blah music note exactly. 284 00:13:38,920 --> 00:13:41,880 Speaker 7: You know, that's kind of how I work. It's about rhythm, right. 285 00:13:43,440 --> 00:13:45,520 Speaker 1: But you know what else you talk about that look 286 00:13:45,600 --> 00:13:48,240 Speaker 1: that they had, because I'd never really thought about that before. 287 00:13:48,280 --> 00:13:50,480 Speaker 1: But you know what else it was that we've now 288 00:13:50,520 --> 00:13:53,760 Speaker 1: discovered with doing the podcast is how much they paid 289 00:13:53,760 --> 00:13:57,080 Speaker 1: attention to who all the actors were as people to 290 00:13:57,200 --> 00:14:00,920 Speaker 1: try to extract, to try to write specific for them. 291 00:14:01,280 --> 00:14:03,920 Speaker 1: So part of that eagerness you saw behind their eyes 292 00:14:04,120 --> 00:14:06,360 Speaker 1: was what what are his strengths what are his strengths, 293 00:14:06,360 --> 00:14:07,000 Speaker 1: what are his strengths? 294 00:14:10,280 --> 00:14:12,280 Speaker 4: Come up with this character and how do we get. 295 00:14:12,120 --> 00:14:14,280 Speaker 5: A character more like do they have did you have 296 00:14:14,360 --> 00:14:16,079 Speaker 5: any like actual character before? 297 00:14:16,320 --> 00:14:18,480 Speaker 4: Like what was there a sense that before. 298 00:14:18,200 --> 00:14:20,280 Speaker 7: You If I remember what it was, it was just like, 299 00:14:21,000 --> 00:14:23,440 Speaker 7: you know, it was like cocky, No, that's exactly what 300 00:14:23,480 --> 00:14:26,800 Speaker 7: I remember. I remember my notes to myself was like, oh, 301 00:14:26,840 --> 00:14:30,600 Speaker 7: this guy thinks his poop does not stink, right, right, Okay, 302 00:14:30,800 --> 00:14:33,760 Speaker 7: That's what I remember, And so that was definitely acting. 303 00:14:37,960 --> 00:14:43,640 Speaker 5: That's what comes across in the second episode with PHOENI, Right. 304 00:14:42,320 --> 00:14:46,200 Speaker 7: That's what it was. It's like this insecurity being covered 305 00:14:46,240 --> 00:14:49,800 Speaker 7: by this sense of ego and arrogance and you know, 306 00:14:50,200 --> 00:14:54,320 Speaker 7: he's a puppy dog, you know. Yeah, if I remember, 307 00:14:54,480 --> 00:14:57,000 Speaker 7: that's what I remembered going into it, thinking. 308 00:14:56,800 --> 00:14:58,480 Speaker 2: That would have been nice if they showed that at 309 00:14:58,520 --> 00:15:02,800 Speaker 2: all in the first episode, even slightly. But the thing 310 00:15:02,880 --> 00:15:05,360 Speaker 2: that was cool at least was so the thing I 311 00:15:05,400 --> 00:15:08,520 Speaker 2: remember most about your first the first episode is that 312 00:15:08,600 --> 00:15:11,040 Speaker 2: we had a really what we call a wu audience. 313 00:15:11,080 --> 00:15:13,520 Speaker 2: So it was like every time you'd say something, people 314 00:15:13,560 --> 00:15:14,400 Speaker 2: would go wooo. 315 00:15:15,320 --> 00:15:18,040 Speaker 6: So yeah, it was by your first line. It was 316 00:15:18,160 --> 00:15:19,640 Speaker 6: like they were already. 317 00:15:19,840 --> 00:15:21,960 Speaker 1: They were super behind you, even though they had no 318 00:15:22,080 --> 00:15:24,200 Speaker 1: idea who you were. They were like this guy, I 319 00:15:24,280 --> 00:15:24,760 Speaker 1: love him. 320 00:15:25,280 --> 00:15:26,800 Speaker 7: Yeah, it was a funny thing. When I was watching 321 00:15:26,880 --> 00:15:28,800 Speaker 7: it too, I was like, wow, I just like shot 322 00:15:28,880 --> 00:15:32,120 Speaker 7: out of a cannon. I know exactly. 323 00:15:33,240 --> 00:15:34,600 Speaker 4: Yep, yes, yeah. 324 00:15:34,600 --> 00:15:38,720 Speaker 5: Season three started with a bang, that's for sure, Alex. 325 00:15:38,760 --> 00:15:41,240 Speaker 5: How much sitcom had you done before Boy Meets World? 326 00:15:41,520 --> 00:15:43,600 Speaker 7: You want to hear the funny thing? Boy Meets World 327 00:15:43,760 --> 00:15:46,160 Speaker 7: was the first sitcom I think I was not fired 328 00:15:46,200 --> 00:15:50,400 Speaker 7: from really, although I only did one season, so I 329 00:15:50,440 --> 00:15:54,720 Speaker 7: had a minute going, hey, wait a minute, yeah, but yeah, 330 00:15:54,720 --> 00:15:57,680 Speaker 7: because I'd had like issues, like i'd go do a 331 00:15:57,720 --> 00:15:59,560 Speaker 7: day or two and they'd be like, yeah, don't, don't, 332 00:15:59,560 --> 00:16:01,000 Speaker 7: don't come for the reader. 333 00:16:01,400 --> 00:16:05,480 Speaker 4: Really yeah, And so I had passage. Man, you gotta 334 00:16:05,480 --> 00:16:06,120 Speaker 4: get fired. 335 00:16:06,240 --> 00:16:08,520 Speaker 7: Man, you know. And of course it's like, hey, well 336 00:16:08,560 --> 00:16:12,000 Speaker 7: you know what I got paid for? Old episode, right right? 337 00:16:12,480 --> 00:16:14,560 Speaker 7: But I think Boy Meets World was the first one 338 00:16:14,680 --> 00:16:16,680 Speaker 7: where I was like, the second episode, I was like 339 00:16:18,560 --> 00:16:22,720 Speaker 7: I'm back, Oh okay, third episode, I was like really 340 00:16:22,960 --> 00:16:29,720 Speaker 7: still man, Yeah, so I think I've done. I think 341 00:16:29,720 --> 00:16:31,960 Speaker 7: I did an episode. No, I know, I think I 342 00:16:31,960 --> 00:16:35,600 Speaker 7: did two sitcoms. I did an episode of Free Spirits 343 00:16:37,080 --> 00:16:41,320 Speaker 7: and a Different World, which is hilarious. You know the 344 00:16:41,360 --> 00:16:45,120 Speaker 7: great thing about getting older guys is like when people 345 00:16:45,200 --> 00:16:52,880 Speaker 7: throw your old work at you and you go, oh yeah, 346 00:16:52,920 --> 00:16:55,080 Speaker 7: and then I yeah, I think I did something else where. 347 00:16:55,120 --> 00:17:01,240 Speaker 7: I was shooting a pilot and yeah, got fired after 348 00:17:01,400 --> 00:17:03,840 Speaker 7: like you know, four or five days. I'm like, guys, 349 00:17:03,840 --> 00:17:04,840 Speaker 7: we're about to tape. 350 00:17:05,680 --> 00:17:07,840 Speaker 1: Are you sure you want to fire me the day 351 00:17:07,920 --> 00:17:08,800 Speaker 1: before we shoot it? 352 00:17:09,400 --> 00:17:13,840 Speaker 7: Yeah? Yeah, And you know what hindsight is twenty twenty 353 00:17:13,960 --> 00:17:16,679 Speaker 7: because I was like, man, I'm glad that didn't go 354 00:17:16,720 --> 00:17:18,000 Speaker 7: anywhere exactly. 355 00:17:18,440 --> 00:17:19,520 Speaker 6: That happens quite a bit. 356 00:17:19,960 --> 00:17:23,879 Speaker 7: Yeah, yeah, So yeah, Boy Meets World was my first, 357 00:17:24,200 --> 00:17:28,639 Speaker 7: like steady, okay, let's learn the craft of doing a sitcom. Wow. 358 00:17:29,600 --> 00:17:32,720 Speaker 1: You know, I feel like in every article we read 359 00:17:32,760 --> 00:17:36,400 Speaker 1: about swingers, we hear about this just very cool group 360 00:17:36,480 --> 00:17:39,399 Speaker 1: of guys Jon Favre, Vince Vaughn, Ron Livingston, Adam Scott, 361 00:17:39,480 --> 00:17:41,840 Speaker 1: Mike White, all just trying to make it in Hollywood 362 00:17:41,880 --> 00:17:44,320 Speaker 1: and going to failed audition after failed audition in hopes 363 00:17:44,359 --> 00:17:45,480 Speaker 1: of ending up. 364 00:17:45,400 --> 00:17:46,200 Speaker 3: On a sitcom. 365 00:17:46,600 --> 00:17:49,960 Speaker 1: Can you explain what that scene was like, especially considering 366 00:17:50,000 --> 00:17:52,040 Speaker 1: that all those names like run Hollywood. 367 00:17:52,080 --> 00:17:54,000 Speaker 7: Now you want to hear the funny you know, I 368 00:17:54,040 --> 00:17:55,600 Speaker 7: was shooting that while we were doing the show. 369 00:17:55,680 --> 00:17:57,720 Speaker 6: I knew it was your car. I remember it was 370 00:17:57,800 --> 00:17:59,640 Speaker 6: your car that Vince Vaughn. 371 00:17:59,480 --> 00:18:00,560 Speaker 4: Drives in the movie. 372 00:18:00,840 --> 00:18:02,760 Speaker 7: It was kind of cool because I remember going, man, 373 00:18:02,800 --> 00:18:06,640 Speaker 7: I'm living the dream. I'm like, I'm doing the sitcom 374 00:18:06,720 --> 00:18:10,520 Speaker 7: during the day, which is awesome, and then at night, 375 00:18:10,560 --> 00:18:13,639 Speaker 7: I'm hanging out with the boys, you know, doing this 376 00:18:13,720 --> 00:18:17,600 Speaker 7: other game you know, which he wrote for us, right, 377 00:18:18,200 --> 00:18:21,080 Speaker 7: you know what I'm saying. I mean, you guys remember me. 378 00:18:21,200 --> 00:18:25,679 Speaker 7: That was like Swingers. Me was the caricature of me 379 00:18:25,880 --> 00:18:37,040 Speaker 7: times ten. I wish I could be that cool. Okay, 380 00:18:37,600 --> 00:18:38,760 Speaker 7: it was, yeah. 381 00:18:38,800 --> 00:18:41,080 Speaker 4: No, you were that cool even telling me about Swingers, 382 00:18:41,080 --> 00:18:43,280 Speaker 4: because I remember you said, you said, I'm doing this 383 00:18:43,320 --> 00:18:46,119 Speaker 4: little movie called Swingers, and I was like, what is it. 384 00:18:46,200 --> 00:18:50,800 Speaker 5: You're like, you'll hear about it, you knew, And then 385 00:18:50,800 --> 00:18:52,960 Speaker 5: of course I did, like the next year going to 386 00:18:53,000 --> 00:18:53,520 Speaker 5: the movie theater. 387 00:18:53,560 --> 00:18:55,720 Speaker 4: I was like obsessed, like, oh my god, that's the 388 00:18:55,720 --> 00:18:58,160 Speaker 4: boy that I was. You were just like you'll hear 389 00:18:58,200 --> 00:18:59,160 Speaker 4: about Yeah. 390 00:18:59,440 --> 00:19:01,800 Speaker 7: I remember any a day coming into work, like you 391 00:19:01,960 --> 00:19:04,000 Speaker 7: don't don't talk to me really tired. 392 00:19:04,160 --> 00:19:07,600 Speaker 1: Yeah, And I remember talking to you one day on 393 00:19:07,640 --> 00:19:09,320 Speaker 1: set and finding out when you were like, yeah, I'm 394 00:19:09,320 --> 00:19:11,320 Speaker 1: in a band, the Hecats. 395 00:19:11,480 --> 00:19:13,679 Speaker 3: I was like the Hadcats because I. 396 00:19:13,560 --> 00:19:16,560 Speaker 1: Was like fourteen, I knew nothing about anything in your world. 397 00:19:16,640 --> 00:19:18,600 Speaker 3: You were just so cool. 398 00:19:19,520 --> 00:19:21,960 Speaker 2: So you had you done PCU by the time you 399 00:19:22,000 --> 00:19:24,520 Speaker 2: got to Boy Meets World you did right. Yeah, yeah, 400 00:19:24,720 --> 00:19:26,560 Speaker 2: because I recognize you walked down That was one of 401 00:19:26,600 --> 00:19:28,200 Speaker 2: my favorite movies at the time. 402 00:19:28,359 --> 00:19:31,480 Speaker 7: Yes, I guess, yeah, you know, it's funny. I look 403 00:19:31,520 --> 00:19:36,640 Speaker 7: at my life. I'm so bizarre. It's it's set up 404 00:19:37,000 --> 00:19:42,640 Speaker 7: like by what era job I had, as well as 405 00:19:42,800 --> 00:19:49,879 Speaker 7: what my hair was doing. Oh yeah, so uh PU 406 00:19:50,240 --> 00:19:53,199 Speaker 7: was before Boy Meets World and then I cut my 407 00:19:53,359 --> 00:19:57,720 Speaker 7: dreads off and then I was able to get apart. 408 00:19:57,880 --> 00:20:01,800 Speaker 7: Like on Boy Meets World. It was very like this 409 00:20:01,840 --> 00:20:03,920 Speaker 7: is what where you're gonna be. You're gonna be a musician. 410 00:20:04,280 --> 00:20:06,880 Speaker 4: That's all you're gonna play, right, you know? 411 00:20:07,520 --> 00:20:10,440 Speaker 7: And so yeah, pcus before and that's how I met 412 00:20:10,480 --> 00:20:15,360 Speaker 7: Favreau and Vince and all those guys. Yeah, that must 413 00:20:15,359 --> 00:20:17,040 Speaker 7: have been like a year or two before. 414 00:20:17,920 --> 00:20:19,440 Speaker 6: I think it was a great movie. 415 00:20:19,480 --> 00:20:21,240 Speaker 2: And I just remember you walking onto the set and 416 00:20:21,280 --> 00:20:23,479 Speaker 2: me thinking to myself like, oh man, I'll say I 417 00:20:23,480 --> 00:20:27,240 Speaker 2: love PCU. He's coming on to play Tony's friend, Tony's 418 00:20:27,320 --> 00:20:29,879 Speaker 2: my good friend. We got it, We got a third 419 00:20:29,920 --> 00:20:31,840 Speaker 2: for the crew, Like this guy is gonna be And 420 00:20:31,840 --> 00:20:33,679 Speaker 2: then by about the second day we're together, it's like, 421 00:20:33,800 --> 00:20:35,399 Speaker 2: this guy's way too cool to hang. 422 00:20:35,240 --> 00:20:35,560 Speaker 3: Out with. 423 00:20:37,359 --> 00:20:39,200 Speaker 6: And this is never going to happen. 424 00:20:41,240 --> 00:20:43,720 Speaker 2: Stop trying to hang out with him. He's never gonna 425 00:20:43,720 --> 00:20:45,760 Speaker 2: hang out with you. It's not going to happen. 426 00:20:46,440 --> 00:20:49,120 Speaker 7: Well, I just remember what tripped me out about you. 427 00:20:49,200 --> 00:20:51,159 Speaker 7: I was like, I remember like talking to you, and 428 00:20:51,240 --> 00:20:53,880 Speaker 7: I was like, this dude is way smarter than I thought. 429 00:20:54,840 --> 00:20:58,159 Speaker 10: Yes, because he'd be like breaking out some like theories 430 00:20:58,240 --> 00:21:00,520 Speaker 10: and talking about Navy seals up and I was like, 431 00:21:01,320 --> 00:21:06,280 Speaker 10: what I was in that brain of yours, you know, getting. 432 00:21:06,000 --> 00:21:09,440 Speaker 7: All that's up there. I was like, oh, there you go. 433 00:21:09,600 --> 00:21:11,399 Speaker 6: Well sweet, So that's what it was. 434 00:21:11,480 --> 00:21:14,240 Speaker 2: I was too smart to hang out with you. It 435 00:21:14,280 --> 00:21:18,399 Speaker 2: wasn't too cool, Yeah, right, I did. I tried for 436 00:21:18,440 --> 00:21:19,800 Speaker 2: like the first two episodes. I was like, this is 437 00:21:19,800 --> 00:21:20,360 Speaker 2: never gonna happen. 438 00:21:20,520 --> 00:21:21,240 Speaker 4: Never, never. 439 00:21:22,760 --> 00:21:25,600 Speaker 7: Happened. Maybe in the back of my head, I was 440 00:21:25,600 --> 00:21:30,040 Speaker 7: like I don't want to be a bad influence. They 441 00:21:30,040 --> 00:21:31,120 Speaker 7: don't want to see my daughter. 442 00:21:31,640 --> 00:21:33,160 Speaker 3: We heard that a lot. 443 00:21:34,680 --> 00:21:36,520 Speaker 4: Yeah, because you were like you were twenty five. 444 00:21:36,560 --> 00:21:38,680 Speaker 7: You said twenty five, twenty six. 445 00:21:38,840 --> 00:21:41,680 Speaker 4: Yeah, my god, that's not that much older than us. 446 00:21:41,720 --> 00:21:44,320 Speaker 4: But no, you know the difference between fifteen and twenty. 447 00:21:44,440 --> 00:21:47,400 Speaker 3: Yeah, Like I was fourteen at the time, and. 448 00:21:47,359 --> 00:21:49,480 Speaker 6: I was probably eighteen or nineteen at the time. 449 00:21:49,640 --> 00:21:53,120 Speaker 11: Fifteen fifteen, Yeah, okay, Yeah, it's kind of crazy because, 450 00:21:53,160 --> 00:21:55,080 Speaker 11: like thinking about it, it's like you guys have been 451 00:21:55,200 --> 00:21:59,760 Speaker 11: professionals forever and like, you know, I moved out to 452 00:22:00,160 --> 00:22:01,920 Speaker 11: at eighteen, and I was. 453 00:22:01,880 --> 00:22:06,959 Speaker 10: Like you guys, And now that I think about it, 454 00:22:06,960 --> 00:22:10,560 Speaker 10: it's basically we're all like learning everything at the same time. 455 00:22:10,800 --> 00:22:13,360 Speaker 1: Yeah, right, r came first for you when you came 456 00:22:13,400 --> 00:22:15,760 Speaker 1: out to LA. Was it a music draw or was 457 00:22:15,760 --> 00:22:16,200 Speaker 1: it acting? 458 00:22:16,200 --> 00:22:19,840 Speaker 7: No, No, acting has been my first, Like, you know, 459 00:22:19,920 --> 00:22:22,880 Speaker 7: since I was a little kid. You know, acting was 460 00:22:23,000 --> 00:22:26,040 Speaker 7: the draw. Like I went to performing arts in New York, 461 00:22:26,160 --> 00:22:29,719 Speaker 7: you know, the Fame School. Yep. It's funny because you know, 462 00:22:30,520 --> 00:22:33,399 Speaker 7: I wanted to audition for stuff and my mom was 463 00:22:33,440 --> 00:22:38,159 Speaker 7: like no, no, no, I'm like okay, sure, sure. Years later, 464 00:22:38,600 --> 00:22:40,119 Speaker 7: I come to find out. I was like, why wouldn't 465 00:22:40,119 --> 00:22:41,960 Speaker 7: you let me go to auditions? She was like, it's 466 00:22:41,960 --> 00:22:44,240 Speaker 7: not that I didn't want you to. I just couldn't 467 00:22:44,240 --> 00:22:48,200 Speaker 7: take off work. I'm like, oh, wow, well that makes sense. 468 00:22:48,280 --> 00:22:51,159 Speaker 7: And so yeah, I went to performing arts. I booked 469 00:22:51,160 --> 00:22:56,240 Speaker 7: a job. My senior year, I booked The Pilot. Almost 470 00:22:56,240 --> 00:22:58,119 Speaker 7: got kicked out of high school because you're not allowed 471 00:22:58,119 --> 00:23:01,960 Speaker 7: to do profession from the work right when you go 472 00:23:02,000 --> 00:23:04,119 Speaker 7: to PA and so I was like, man, I forget you. 473 00:23:04,160 --> 00:23:06,320 Speaker 7: That's why I'm here. Came out to La, shot the Pilot, 474 00:23:07,960 --> 00:23:13,000 Speaker 7: went back to school. This is hilarious. Well it's not really, 475 00:23:13,560 --> 00:23:16,639 Speaker 7: But went back to school, almost got kicked out. My 476 00:23:16,720 --> 00:23:20,119 Speaker 7: grades sucked, But the show got picked up and we 477 00:23:20,160 --> 00:23:24,800 Speaker 7: were supposed to start shooting, you know whenever it starts 478 00:23:24,840 --> 00:23:26,960 Speaker 7: like in the summer again. But then the nineteen eighty 479 00:23:26,960 --> 00:23:32,280 Speaker 7: eight writers started happening. Oh here's a good thing. Because 480 00:23:32,320 --> 00:23:34,439 Speaker 7: of that strike, I was able to go to summer school, 481 00:23:34,640 --> 00:23:38,040 Speaker 7: get all my credits. Oh nice, So I am officially 482 00:23:38,040 --> 00:23:41,360 Speaker 7: a high school grad. And then literally the strike was over, 483 00:23:41,440 --> 00:23:43,840 Speaker 7: got on a plane, came to LA and started working. 484 00:23:44,240 --> 00:23:45,080 Speaker 3: Unbelievable. 485 00:23:45,240 --> 00:23:47,040 Speaker 4: That's great good timing. 486 00:23:47,840 --> 00:23:48,680 Speaker 3: Yes, exactly. 487 00:23:49,960 --> 00:23:52,439 Speaker 2: That's when I was there eighty like eighty six to 488 00:23:52,560 --> 00:23:54,800 Speaker 2: eighty nine in New York. Was it was a magical 489 00:23:54,880 --> 00:23:55,680 Speaker 2: time in the industry. 490 00:23:55,720 --> 00:23:57,679 Speaker 6: It really was. Yeah, that was a great time in 491 00:23:57,680 --> 00:23:58,080 Speaker 6: the city. 492 00:23:58,440 --> 00:24:01,040 Speaker 2: There was just a vibe to the city that was 493 00:24:01,119 --> 00:24:04,400 Speaker 2: so it wrapped you in this piss smelling. 494 00:24:04,119 --> 00:24:07,159 Speaker 6: Hug and show and it was awesome. It was just 495 00:24:07,800 --> 00:24:10,320 Speaker 6: full of life and it was it was magical. 496 00:24:10,320 --> 00:24:12,280 Speaker 7: I really was the smell of subway in the morning. 497 00:24:12,600 --> 00:24:12,879 Speaker 4: Yeah. 498 00:24:13,080 --> 00:24:15,520 Speaker 6: Absolutely, it was great. 499 00:24:16,000 --> 00:24:17,680 Speaker 7: It was school life for me because, like I said, 500 00:24:17,720 --> 00:24:20,920 Speaker 7: we're you know, Pa, we're all like drama geeks. Imagine 501 00:24:20,960 --> 00:24:23,959 Speaker 7: a whole school and it's nothing but geeks, music geeks, 502 00:24:24,160 --> 00:24:27,160 Speaker 7: drama geeks, dance geeks, and we're all like, Hi. 503 00:24:28,720 --> 00:24:30,640 Speaker 6: Yeah, where you went? 504 00:24:31,119 --> 00:24:33,600 Speaker 7: I have a whopper? 505 00:24:36,960 --> 00:24:38,000 Speaker 6: Were you from New York? 506 00:24:38,160 --> 00:24:39,080 Speaker 7: Yeah? 507 00:24:39,119 --> 00:24:40,000 Speaker 6: From the city. 508 00:24:40,680 --> 00:24:42,919 Speaker 7: Grew up in Queen's. Always went to school in the city, 509 00:24:43,800 --> 00:24:47,000 Speaker 7: you know. So the son of my from the first 510 00:24:47,040 --> 00:24:50,760 Speaker 7: my parents came from Haiti in sixty seven and then 511 00:24:50,800 --> 00:24:58,280 Speaker 7: I popped out a couple of years later. The Restless History. 512 00:24:59,280 --> 00:25:00,080 Speaker 6: It's so fun. 513 00:25:00,240 --> 00:25:03,639 Speaker 1: So you came in as a new teacher and mister 514 00:25:03,720 --> 00:25:04,840 Speaker 1: Turner's best friend. 515 00:25:05,200 --> 00:25:08,000 Speaker 3: What do you remember about working with Tony Quinn. 516 00:25:11,760 --> 00:25:16,280 Speaker 7: Burst off his hair, Yes, all about the. 517 00:25:16,320 --> 00:25:19,080 Speaker 3: Hair man bullet, the power mullet. 518 00:25:19,200 --> 00:25:22,600 Speaker 7: It was like and it was just like did it 519 00:25:22,680 --> 00:25:23,600 Speaker 7: have its own credit? 520 00:25:24,040 --> 00:25:27,760 Speaker 2: It should should have it should Basically it wasn't even 521 00:25:27,880 --> 00:25:31,320 Speaker 2: hair band. It was like early eighties had it was 522 00:25:31,359 --> 00:25:33,080 Speaker 2: like Rio Speedwagon hair. 523 00:25:33,119 --> 00:25:37,879 Speaker 7: And what people need to know. It was always perfect people. 524 00:25:39,400 --> 00:25:41,119 Speaker 7: There was never a hair out of place. 525 00:25:41,600 --> 00:25:45,520 Speaker 1: No, it was gorgeous, a glorious name. 526 00:25:46,040 --> 00:25:49,560 Speaker 7: Yeah. I remember Tony just being a real cool just 527 00:25:49,640 --> 00:25:51,200 Speaker 7: like taking me under his wing. It's like, no, we're 528 00:25:51,280 --> 00:25:53,919 Speaker 7: really good family hair. You just have fun. You know. 529 00:25:55,720 --> 00:25:58,199 Speaker 7: One of my favorite things. I think you guys started 530 00:25:58,200 --> 00:26:01,800 Speaker 7: singing that with me where I discovered a song called 531 00:26:02,440 --> 00:26:05,280 Speaker 7: corn bread Earl and me. Yeah, and I kept on 532 00:26:05,440 --> 00:26:07,480 Speaker 7: changing the words of Tony queen. 533 00:26:08,680 --> 00:26:13,720 Speaker 4: That's right, Like, oh my god, that's. 534 00:26:17,640 --> 00:26:18,160 Speaker 7: We did. 535 00:26:20,440 --> 00:26:23,280 Speaker 4: You're unlocking like a core memory it is. 536 00:26:26,520 --> 00:26:27,760 Speaker 6: Oh that's so funny. 537 00:26:27,800 --> 00:26:29,879 Speaker 7: And it rolled so trippingly off the tunnel. 538 00:26:31,240 --> 00:26:33,679 Speaker 3: Had you had you ever worked with kids before? 539 00:26:34,400 --> 00:26:37,840 Speaker 7: No considering I was one myself. Yeah, you know what 540 00:26:38,119 --> 00:26:39,800 Speaker 7: you know, here's a funny thing. Now that I think 541 00:26:39,800 --> 00:26:42,360 Speaker 7: about it, I remember the whole time going I don't 542 00:26:42,400 --> 00:26:45,600 Speaker 7: know if anybody's gonna buy me as a. 543 00:26:45,560 --> 00:26:47,479 Speaker 4: School because you've grown up. 544 00:26:49,000 --> 00:26:51,520 Speaker 7: Yeah, I'm like, I don't buy it. And then I 545 00:26:51,520 --> 00:26:54,440 Speaker 7: was thinking about it. How old was what was Bill 546 00:26:54,520 --> 00:26:57,440 Speaker 7: Daniels when we were doing it? Because I and eight, 547 00:26:58,800 --> 00:27:01,280 Speaker 7: you know, he was probably like my age he. 548 00:27:01,359 --> 00:27:03,840 Speaker 6: Was he was sixty five. 549 00:27:03,920 --> 00:27:07,200 Speaker 1: He's ninety six now, thirty years ago, sixty six six 550 00:27:07,280 --> 00:27:09,480 Speaker 1: to sixty eight when you were there, he was sixty 551 00:27:09,520 --> 00:27:10,120 Speaker 1: eight years old. 552 00:27:10,800 --> 00:27:13,280 Speaker 6: Yeah, right, yeah, right. 553 00:27:13,200 --> 00:27:19,600 Speaker 7: Wow, man, Yeah, what an experience. It's wow. Okay, things 554 00:27:19,640 --> 00:27:21,080 Speaker 7: are starting on the lot. Guys. 555 00:27:21,800 --> 00:27:23,880 Speaker 2: You when you do your when you put your your 556 00:27:23,920 --> 00:27:26,000 Speaker 2: age you are now to when we were doing Boy, 557 00:27:26,080 --> 00:27:27,800 Speaker 2: and you look at all the writers, all the producers. 558 00:27:27,840 --> 00:27:30,440 Speaker 2: I think I'm older now than ninety percent of the 559 00:27:30,440 --> 00:27:30,880 Speaker 2: people that. 560 00:27:30,840 --> 00:27:31,320 Speaker 6: Worked on one. 561 00:27:31,520 --> 00:27:34,479 Speaker 2: That's insane and it's just weird when you do that. 562 00:27:34,520 --> 00:27:36,240 Speaker 2: When you're like Michael, I think was what in his 563 00:27:36,560 --> 00:27:39,359 Speaker 2: late thirties early forties when Boy and he must have 564 00:27:39,440 --> 00:27:42,159 Speaker 2: been right, I think it's got to be what sixty 565 00:27:42,200 --> 00:27:43,280 Speaker 2: five now sixty six. 566 00:27:43,560 --> 00:27:45,960 Speaker 3: I think he's probably close to seventy. 567 00:27:45,840 --> 00:27:47,840 Speaker 6: Okay, close to so, say he's seventy so he was 568 00:27:47,880 --> 00:27:48,320 Speaker 6: forty eight. 569 00:27:48,880 --> 00:27:52,159 Speaker 2: Yeah, you're forty seven now, right, right, So, I mean 570 00:27:52,200 --> 00:27:54,760 Speaker 2: it's just so weird to think that we were all 571 00:27:54,800 --> 00:27:57,320 Speaker 2: the people, all the adults in charge, were younger than 572 00:27:57,359 --> 00:27:58,280 Speaker 2: most of us are now. 573 00:27:58,640 --> 00:27:59,200 Speaker 7: Really weird. 574 00:27:59,560 --> 00:28:02,479 Speaker 4: Yeah, I'm how aware of Bill Daniels were you? Like, 575 00:28:02,520 --> 00:28:04,199 Speaker 4: did you know his career? Did you know him on? 576 00:28:04,359 --> 00:28:04,560 Speaker 7: Man? 577 00:28:05,280 --> 00:28:07,199 Speaker 5: Well, I had no clue because I was a kid, man, 578 00:28:07,240 --> 00:28:09,760 Speaker 5: I mean, besides the kid from Night Rider. I had 579 00:28:09,840 --> 00:28:11,119 Speaker 5: no idea. 580 00:28:11,200 --> 00:28:12,400 Speaker 7: You can just start. 581 00:28:12,119 --> 00:28:15,240 Speaker 3: There, man, exactly, Yes. 582 00:28:15,400 --> 00:28:19,040 Speaker 7: You start there and either go backwards or forwards. 583 00:28:19,200 --> 00:28:21,480 Speaker 6: Yeah, it was awesome sometimes. 584 00:28:21,480 --> 00:28:23,680 Speaker 7: I'm just like to say it for me, Michael. 585 00:28:24,720 --> 00:28:28,560 Speaker 1: Michael, were you as intimidated by Bill Daniels as we 586 00:28:28,640 --> 00:28:29,000 Speaker 1: all were? 587 00:28:29,359 --> 00:28:36,000 Speaker 7: Oh? Absolutely, absolutely absolutely. And then it started obviously getting easier, 588 00:28:36,080 --> 00:28:38,520 Speaker 7: like because I just asked him questions, so when did 589 00:28:38,560 --> 00:28:41,160 Speaker 7: you start the business? Yeah, how did you do this? 590 00:28:41,560 --> 00:28:43,080 Speaker 7: And then like him telling me that he was a 591 00:28:43,160 --> 00:28:47,440 Speaker 7: dancer and like with bo Jingles and stuff that blew 592 00:28:47,520 --> 00:28:49,360 Speaker 7: my mind. And then I was like, right, so tell 593 00:28:49,400 --> 00:28:52,320 Speaker 7: me about seventeen seventy six, right, you know, John Adams, 594 00:28:57,080 --> 00:28:57,560 Speaker 7: I get it. 595 00:28:59,080 --> 00:29:00,640 Speaker 6: That was always a good way in with Bill. 596 00:29:01,160 --> 00:29:03,560 Speaker 2: He would always talk about the industry, talk about acting, 597 00:29:03,560 --> 00:29:05,720 Speaker 2: talk about the craft. So anytime you were kind of like, 598 00:29:05,760 --> 00:29:07,600 Speaker 2: I don't know what to talk about, jumping into that 599 00:29:07,760 --> 00:29:09,240 Speaker 2: was a great starting off point with him. 600 00:29:09,280 --> 00:29:10,800 Speaker 7: Yeah, and then like every once in a while because 601 00:29:10,800 --> 00:29:14,480 Speaker 7: I like my one of the things I do, like 602 00:29:14,520 --> 00:29:17,760 Speaker 7: you know, in between takes or whatever, like just I 603 00:29:17,920 --> 00:29:20,480 Speaker 7: do fake tap dance and stuff just for myself. I 604 00:29:20,480 --> 00:29:22,760 Speaker 7: don't know how to tap, but I do that. And 605 00:29:22,760 --> 00:29:25,560 Speaker 7: then he'd joined in on it. 606 00:29:25,760 --> 00:29:27,880 Speaker 5: A video of the. 607 00:29:29,880 --> 00:29:32,840 Speaker 7: D's start talking and he telled me about Bojangles and 608 00:29:32,840 --> 00:29:35,640 Speaker 7: stuff like what you were doing. You were you were 609 00:29:35,720 --> 00:29:36,960 Speaker 7: song and dance man first. 610 00:29:37,360 --> 00:29:41,840 Speaker 6: Yeah, when he five five or six, I mean he was. 611 00:29:41,880 --> 00:29:44,160 Speaker 6: And he never told us. He would never jump in 612 00:29:44,200 --> 00:29:45,160 Speaker 6: and tell us about that. 613 00:29:45,240 --> 00:29:48,080 Speaker 2: Yeah, it was cut yeah, and even and that wasn't 614 00:29:48,120 --> 00:29:50,240 Speaker 2: until later. Especially, he didn't want us to know. I've 615 00:29:50,240 --> 00:29:51,800 Speaker 2: talked to him about this. He did not want us 616 00:29:51,800 --> 00:29:52,960 Speaker 2: to know he was a child actor. 617 00:29:53,120 --> 00:29:54,320 Speaker 6: Oh wow, he said, I don't. 618 00:29:54,400 --> 00:29:57,440 Speaker 2: I didn't want you to look at me like a 619 00:29:57,640 --> 00:30:00,280 Speaker 2: resource for how to be a child act or. I 620 00:30:00,280 --> 00:30:02,720 Speaker 2: wanted you to look at me as just another actor 621 00:30:02,760 --> 00:30:05,040 Speaker 2: and part of the cast, as opposed to oh, you 622 00:30:05,040 --> 00:30:05,880 Speaker 2: did what I did. 623 00:30:06,000 --> 00:30:08,120 Speaker 6: He didn't for some reason, just didn't want that. 624 00:30:08,120 --> 00:30:11,640 Speaker 7: That's actually pretty smart, actually, yeah, journey. 625 00:30:12,240 --> 00:30:14,800 Speaker 1: Yeah, it's also a great way to keep all the 626 00:30:14,840 --> 00:30:16,200 Speaker 1: little smelly kids away from you. 627 00:30:18,120 --> 00:30:21,760 Speaker 4: Self protection. Just did not want question. 628 00:30:23,200 --> 00:30:23,320 Speaker 7: Me. 629 00:30:23,480 --> 00:30:24,720 Speaker 4: I am so different from you. 630 00:30:25,880 --> 00:30:28,920 Speaker 7: That's how good he is. He was able to trick 631 00:30:29,000 --> 00:30:32,720 Speaker 7: you into thinking he was looking up for Yep, he's 632 00:30:32,840 --> 00:30:37,200 Speaker 7: actually just looking up for his own damn. Now that's 633 00:30:37,200 --> 00:30:38,840 Speaker 7: what you call years in the business. 634 00:30:39,280 --> 00:30:41,160 Speaker 4: Yep, that's true. 635 00:30:41,320 --> 00:30:43,480 Speaker 3: We've all learned to do it now. We learned from 636 00:30:43,520 --> 00:30:45,760 Speaker 3: the best. So did you? 637 00:30:45,840 --> 00:30:49,080 Speaker 1: Adam Scott was in a few episodes in season two 638 00:30:49,280 --> 00:30:51,680 Speaker 1: and then also did an episode in season three. 639 00:30:51,760 --> 00:30:53,680 Speaker 3: Were you in the episode when he was in? Did you? 640 00:30:54,000 --> 00:30:55,600 Speaker 3: Was he the only person you knew that was a 641 00:30:55,600 --> 00:30:56,240 Speaker 3: part of the show. 642 00:30:57,200 --> 00:31:05,520 Speaker 7: Yeah, And it was funny, like, yeah, yeah, I'd seen 643 00:31:05,560 --> 00:31:07,040 Speaker 7: him on the show. And then it was funny because 644 00:31:07,080 --> 00:31:11,240 Speaker 7: I guess we lived in the same neighborhood for a 645 00:31:11,320 --> 00:31:15,040 Speaker 7: while years later, and so like, oh, what's up, Oh 646 00:31:15,080 --> 00:31:17,680 Speaker 7: what's up there? You know? Yeah? 647 00:31:18,000 --> 00:31:20,560 Speaker 3: Who else were some of your peers at the time. 648 00:31:21,920 --> 00:31:23,800 Speaker 7: I don't even I don't even know. 649 00:31:24,960 --> 00:31:27,120 Speaker 2: I don't You introduced me to Jeremy Piven. I remember 650 00:31:27,120 --> 00:31:31,120 Speaker 2: that at an at an ABC party. You know, every 651 00:31:31,200 --> 00:31:33,200 Speaker 2: year at the beginning of the show, they would always 652 00:31:33,240 --> 00:31:36,120 Speaker 2: have these ABC parties in some strange location, Yeah, like 653 00:31:36,160 --> 00:31:38,400 Speaker 2: the Ladea tar Pits or Libret of tar Pits or 654 00:31:38,400 --> 00:31:40,480 Speaker 2: something like that. And you and I were sitting there 655 00:31:40,480 --> 00:31:42,200 Speaker 2: talking and somebody tapped you on the shoulder and turn 656 00:31:42,200 --> 00:31:43,760 Speaker 2: around with Jeremy Pip and You're like, hey, I want 657 00:31:43,760 --> 00:31:45,760 Speaker 2: you to be will And I was like and he 658 00:31:45,800 --> 00:31:47,120 Speaker 2: was like, yeah, hey, how you doing. And he gave 659 00:31:47,120 --> 00:31:48,640 Speaker 2: you a big hug, and you guys talked. I was like, 660 00:31:48,800 --> 00:31:54,239 Speaker 2: I'll be over here if you need any drinks. But 661 00:31:54,320 --> 00:31:55,760 Speaker 2: it was it was I was like, all right, cool 662 00:31:56,080 --> 00:31:57,680 Speaker 2: met Jermy Piven, like all right, you introduce me. 663 00:31:57,840 --> 00:31:59,800 Speaker 3: Well, did you go to a Hepcat show. 664 00:32:01,240 --> 00:32:02,640 Speaker 6: I don't think I did. 665 00:32:02,720 --> 00:32:03,200 Speaker 4: I might have. 666 00:32:03,640 --> 00:32:04,640 Speaker 6: I don't think I did. 667 00:32:04,680 --> 00:32:07,840 Speaker 2: I didn't go out a whole lot as they would say, 668 00:32:08,880 --> 00:32:11,000 Speaker 2: which was another reason why I think Alex was like, yeah, 669 00:32:11,000 --> 00:32:11,920 Speaker 2: we can't be friends. 670 00:32:13,080 --> 00:32:14,320 Speaker 6: It was like you want to come hang out the 671 00:32:14,360 --> 00:32:14,720 Speaker 6: oak Wood. 672 00:32:16,840 --> 00:32:20,160 Speaker 2: No, It's just we were different people, you know, you know, 673 00:32:20,240 --> 00:32:23,960 Speaker 2: you had a life and stuff. I hadn't found that yet, 674 00:32:24,040 --> 00:32:25,840 Speaker 2: So no, I never Actually, I don't think I ever 675 00:32:25,880 --> 00:32:28,880 Speaker 2: went to a Hepcat show Again, I may have once. 676 00:32:28,960 --> 00:32:29,800 Speaker 3: I can't remember some. 677 00:32:29,840 --> 00:32:31,920 Speaker 7: Reason, I'm feeling that you guys did, but. 678 00:32:31,840 --> 00:32:34,400 Speaker 3: I feel like I did. I did too. 679 00:32:35,200 --> 00:32:37,600 Speaker 6: Then we then we went together me where would it 680 00:32:37,680 --> 00:32:37,920 Speaker 6: have been? 681 00:32:38,360 --> 00:32:39,160 Speaker 4: Where were you playing? 682 00:32:39,240 --> 00:32:41,160 Speaker 7: Like what kind of like we were doing House of 683 00:32:41,200 --> 00:32:41,880 Speaker 7: Blues a lot. 684 00:32:42,360 --> 00:32:43,360 Speaker 6: I want to say we went. 685 00:32:43,400 --> 00:32:45,440 Speaker 2: I went to the House of Blues one time, because 686 00:32:45,480 --> 00:32:47,760 Speaker 2: I think that night, leaving the House of Blues on 687 00:32:47,800 --> 00:32:49,240 Speaker 2: a whim, I got a tattoo. 688 00:32:49,960 --> 00:32:53,840 Speaker 1: Wow, you only vaguely remember the evening huh. 689 00:32:53,600 --> 00:32:55,040 Speaker 4: Well, because. 690 00:32:56,160 --> 00:32:58,400 Speaker 2: Yeah, it was right next to Sunset Strip tattoo where 691 00:32:58,440 --> 00:33:00,960 Speaker 2: I got my first several tattoos was at the same place, 692 00:33:01,400 --> 00:33:03,160 Speaker 2: and I believe I left and I was like, all right, 693 00:33:03,120 --> 00:33:04,560 Speaker 2: I'm just going to get another tat, and the same 694 00:33:04,560 --> 00:33:05,440 Speaker 2: guy gave me another tat. 695 00:33:05,480 --> 00:33:07,640 Speaker 6: I believe that I wasn't with you for that, so 696 00:33:07,840 --> 00:33:10,320 Speaker 6: I was OK that I think that was yes, So 697 00:33:10,400 --> 00:33:11,320 Speaker 6: I believe I did. 698 00:33:11,600 --> 00:33:12,760 Speaker 4: I believe I did too. 699 00:33:12,760 --> 00:33:14,440 Speaker 1: But I also have a memory of going to a 700 00:33:14,440 --> 00:33:17,000 Speaker 1: Hepcat show that was like years later, because, like I said, 701 00:33:17,360 --> 00:33:20,240 Speaker 1: when you were on the show, I was only fourteen, 702 00:33:20,360 --> 00:33:22,440 Speaker 1: So like, where was I going to a my parents 703 00:33:22,440 --> 00:33:23,600 Speaker 1: were club. 704 00:33:23,880 --> 00:33:25,040 Speaker 4: You were in fifteen. 705 00:33:25,160 --> 00:33:28,760 Speaker 1: I was at least eighteen years old before I attended 706 00:33:28,960 --> 00:33:31,960 Speaker 1: a nightclub, so I think I went. 707 00:33:32,080 --> 00:33:38,600 Speaker 3: At least I waited until I moved out of my parents' house. 708 00:33:38,400 --> 00:33:42,440 Speaker 1: At eighteen, and then I went. I had some respect, 709 00:33:44,880 --> 00:33:46,880 Speaker 1: But yeah, I did. I know, I went to a 710 00:33:46,920 --> 00:33:49,440 Speaker 1: show like around that time, which is cool to think 711 00:33:49,440 --> 00:33:52,440 Speaker 1: about because like that means that even years after you 712 00:33:52,480 --> 00:33:53,920 Speaker 1: were off the show, I was. 713 00:33:54,200 --> 00:33:58,040 Speaker 3: We were still like, I'm going to go see Alex Man. 714 00:33:58,640 --> 00:34:01,520 Speaker 7: I didn't tell you. I haven't told you guys, So 715 00:34:01,560 --> 00:34:03,760 Speaker 7: this was actually cool. So I knew the show was, 716 00:34:04,120 --> 00:34:06,720 Speaker 7: you know, good, and it was big and all that stuff. 717 00:34:07,640 --> 00:34:12,000 Speaker 7: It didn't hit me until like maybe a year after 718 00:34:12,400 --> 00:34:15,600 Speaker 7: leaving the show. We were on tour, and we're doing 719 00:34:15,600 --> 00:34:20,400 Speaker 7: the Work tour, so we're going all across America, every 720 00:34:20,440 --> 00:34:23,400 Speaker 7: crop cross section of life, you know, because work towards 721 00:34:23,440 --> 00:34:28,040 Speaker 7: like SKA bands, punk bands, like you know, everything, hip 722 00:34:28,040 --> 00:34:32,839 Speaker 7: hop and all that, and we do our set and inevitably, 723 00:34:32,920 --> 00:34:36,239 Speaker 7: like every night, every day we finished the set, oh 724 00:34:36,280 --> 00:34:40,320 Speaker 7: my god, hey man, Heapcat was really cool, but mister 725 00:34:40,440 --> 00:34:45,640 Speaker 7: Williams and it was like every night. And then I 726 00:34:45,680 --> 00:34:47,360 Speaker 7: remember one of the funniest ones. Was like, no, you 727 00:34:47,360 --> 00:34:49,680 Speaker 7: don't understand what boy meets world meets us. It was 728 00:34:49,719 --> 00:34:53,080 Speaker 7: this guy and his girlfriend. You don't understand what the 729 00:34:53,120 --> 00:34:55,000 Speaker 7: show means to us. It's like, you know, it's like 730 00:34:55,160 --> 00:35:00,360 Speaker 7: our days of our lives. It's our General Hospital and 731 00:35:00,360 --> 00:35:03,680 Speaker 7: I will never forget that. Yeah. As he was saying that, 732 00:35:03,719 --> 00:35:05,440 Speaker 7: I was backing away slowly, going. 733 00:35:06,400 --> 00:35:07,480 Speaker 3: That's really nice. 734 00:35:08,080 --> 00:35:11,400 Speaker 7: That's cool. But it was. And that's when it dawned 735 00:35:11,440 --> 00:35:13,000 Speaker 7: on me, because you know, in my head, I'm like, God, 736 00:35:13,280 --> 00:35:15,520 Speaker 7: we're just working, We're just what we do. 737 00:35:16,320 --> 00:35:17,560 Speaker 6: Yeah. 738 00:35:17,719 --> 00:35:17,799 Speaker 7: No. 739 00:35:17,840 --> 00:35:20,759 Speaker 5: We've talked a lot about how none of us really 740 00:35:20,800 --> 00:35:24,160 Speaker 5: knew the reach of the show until years later. 741 00:35:24,280 --> 00:35:24,520 Speaker 4: You know. 742 00:35:24,600 --> 00:35:27,799 Speaker 5: It's yeah, yeah, when we were on, we weren't like 743 00:35:27,840 --> 00:35:30,560 Speaker 5: a huge hit. We were just kind of a drugging shit. 744 00:35:30,719 --> 00:35:32,080 Speaker 7: Yeah. Yeah. 745 00:35:32,160 --> 00:35:35,759 Speaker 3: Do you remember how many episodes you originally signed up for? 746 00:35:36,040 --> 00:35:36,879 Speaker 4: Did you? 747 00:35:37,000 --> 00:35:39,400 Speaker 3: Were you a series regular that through that season? 748 00:35:39,400 --> 00:35:42,400 Speaker 7: It was, yeah, I was a serious regular. But like, 749 00:35:42,440 --> 00:35:44,120 Speaker 7: what do they call it, like ten out of thirteen 750 00:35:44,239 --> 00:35:44,560 Speaker 7: or something? 751 00:35:44,640 --> 00:35:45,800 Speaker 3: Yeah, but you did sixteen? 752 00:35:45,920 --> 00:35:46,640 Speaker 7: Yeah I did? 753 00:35:47,080 --> 00:35:49,720 Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah out of twenty three. 754 00:35:49,920 --> 00:35:51,080 Speaker 3: Out of twenty four or something. 755 00:35:51,160 --> 00:35:53,480 Speaker 7: Yeah, okay, yeah, yeah, that sounds about right. 756 00:35:54,520 --> 00:35:54,960 Speaker 3: Look at you. 757 00:35:55,920 --> 00:35:59,160 Speaker 4: Yeah. 758 00:35:59,239 --> 00:36:01,359 Speaker 2: I was telling them story before we got on. That 759 00:36:01,640 --> 00:36:04,439 Speaker 2: was very special to me. So it was years, several 760 00:36:04,560 --> 00:36:06,399 Speaker 2: years after Boy Me Twelve finished, I was doing another 761 00:36:06,440 --> 00:36:10,440 Speaker 2: show that wasn't very good. But actually I take that back. 762 00:36:10,480 --> 00:36:12,279 Speaker 2: The show was okay, the cast was great, they were 763 00:36:12,280 --> 00:36:14,080 Speaker 2: good friends of mine. But I was having a bad day. 764 00:36:14,120 --> 00:36:16,319 Speaker 2: I remember specifically, I was having a very bad day 765 00:36:16,840 --> 00:36:20,360 Speaker 2: and I'm sitting there and I look up and standing 766 00:36:20,440 --> 00:36:23,080 Speaker 2: in between two of the cameras on rehearsal day, is 767 00:36:23,239 --> 00:36:25,320 Speaker 2: you with your. 768 00:36:25,280 --> 00:36:26,280 Speaker 6: Arms wide open? 769 00:36:27,239 --> 00:36:27,959 Speaker 7: Yeah? 770 00:36:28,360 --> 00:36:32,680 Speaker 2: Because you were doing Becker right next door, and I 771 00:36:32,800 --> 00:36:36,040 Speaker 2: was doing a show called Random Years, and you saw 772 00:36:36,080 --> 00:36:40,279 Speaker 2: me on the internal like monitors of rehearsal, and you 773 00:36:40,360 --> 00:36:43,560 Speaker 2: came over and it was like my whole day brightened up, 774 00:36:43,880 --> 00:36:44,760 Speaker 2: just all of a sudden. 775 00:36:44,800 --> 00:36:46,120 Speaker 6: It was like, oh my god. 776 00:36:46,160 --> 00:36:48,399 Speaker 2: And you came over and embraced me, and we sat 777 00:36:48,440 --> 00:36:50,799 Speaker 2: there and hugged and talked for like twenty minutes, and 778 00:36:50,840 --> 00:36:52,719 Speaker 2: my whole day turned around. And I don't think I 779 00:36:52,719 --> 00:36:54,920 Speaker 2: ever told you how special and important that was to me. 780 00:36:54,960 --> 00:36:55,400 Speaker 6: It really was. 781 00:36:56,000 --> 00:36:59,279 Speaker 2: It just you turned my whole day around. It was incredible. 782 00:36:59,280 --> 00:37:01,719 Speaker 2: It was just such a wonderful surprise. After all those 783 00:37:01,760 --> 00:37:03,080 Speaker 2: years and it was amazing, really was. 784 00:37:03,400 --> 00:37:05,640 Speaker 7: Man, that's awesome. I remember that too. 785 00:37:06,920 --> 00:37:09,719 Speaker 4: What a lot was that on? Where were you guys? Paramount? 786 00:37:11,239 --> 00:37:14,320 Speaker 2: So yeah, it was just such it was like, yeah 787 00:37:14,360 --> 00:37:16,080 Speaker 2: it was that was very special to me. 788 00:37:16,200 --> 00:37:17,120 Speaker 6: So yeah, it was really cool. 789 00:37:18,880 --> 00:37:20,200 Speaker 3: Yeah, I know, that's so sweet. 790 00:37:20,239 --> 00:37:22,800 Speaker 1: You know, I love those stories because how many times 791 00:37:22,840 --> 00:37:26,279 Speaker 1: have you seen somebody out somewhere and your I always think, well, 792 00:37:26,320 --> 00:37:27,920 Speaker 1: they're not going to know they're not going to remember me, 793 00:37:28,040 --> 00:37:29,880 Speaker 1: like they're not yet. Oh yeah, like I'm just a 794 00:37:30,120 --> 00:37:31,560 Speaker 1: They're not even know who I am. So I'm not 795 00:37:31,600 --> 00:37:34,080 Speaker 1: even going to say anything. You like, talk yourself out 796 00:37:34,080 --> 00:37:35,440 Speaker 1: of whether or not you should go up and say 797 00:37:35,520 --> 00:37:38,680 Speaker 1: hi to somebody, But then every time you do, you're 798 00:37:38,680 --> 00:37:40,080 Speaker 1: always like, I'm so glad I did. 799 00:37:40,160 --> 00:37:42,120 Speaker 3: And in that case, you made the effort. You saw 800 00:37:42,200 --> 00:37:42,759 Speaker 3: him on him monitor. 801 00:37:42,840 --> 00:37:44,560 Speaker 1: You very easily could have been like, oh that was 802 00:37:44,560 --> 00:37:46,040 Speaker 1: so many years ago, I'm not going to go say 803 00:37:46,080 --> 00:37:47,799 Speaker 1: hi to Will, but you did, and he was having 804 00:37:47,800 --> 00:37:49,520 Speaker 1: a bad day and it turned everything around and it's 805 00:37:49,520 --> 00:37:50,840 Speaker 1: like something he remembers forever. 806 00:37:51,400 --> 00:37:53,120 Speaker 6: It was awesome. Yeah, yeah, it was awesome. 807 00:37:53,239 --> 00:37:55,799 Speaker 7: Yea. The moral of the story, folks, if you think 808 00:37:55,800 --> 00:37:57,160 Speaker 7: of someone. 809 00:37:57,719 --> 00:37:59,440 Speaker 3: Yes, that's exactly right. 810 00:37:59,440 --> 00:37:59,760 Speaker 7: Moral. 811 00:38:05,440 --> 00:38:08,799 Speaker 12: Hey guys, it's Jen Ashchwitz and Kevin McHale from and 812 00:38:08,920 --> 00:38:10,680 Speaker 12: That's what you really missed podcasts. 813 00:38:10,719 --> 00:38:13,759 Speaker 13: We are going through all six seasons of Glee and 814 00:38:13,800 --> 00:38:16,120 Speaker 13: we are giving you the behind the scenes stories of 815 00:38:16,200 --> 00:38:19,920 Speaker 13: what it was really like filming, the musical numbers and episodes. 816 00:38:20,239 --> 00:38:22,600 Speaker 12: It's been so special to revisit the show that changed 817 00:38:22,600 --> 00:38:24,799 Speaker 12: our lives with some of our closest friends and to 818 00:38:24,840 --> 00:38:27,880 Speaker 12: share some of the most authentic and real experiences we 819 00:38:27,960 --> 00:38:31,680 Speaker 12: had together, completely raw and unfiltered. Plus we chat with 820 00:38:31,680 --> 00:38:34,800 Speaker 12: our co stars like Jane Lynch, Chris Kolfer, Heather Morris 821 00:38:34,840 --> 00:38:37,680 Speaker 12: and Berilly, Harry Schamp, Junior court over Street, Josh Susman, 822 00:38:37,719 --> 00:38:41,120 Speaker 12: Max Adler, Rome Rosemont, John Stamos, Alex Snull and Dot 823 00:38:41,200 --> 00:38:44,319 Speaker 12: Marie Jones on the pod, and so many more to come. 824 00:38:44,360 --> 00:38:45,960 Speaker 12: We have some exciting guests coming up. 825 00:38:45,880 --> 00:38:48,000 Speaker 13: And we can't forget the behind the scenes crew who 826 00:38:48,080 --> 00:38:51,120 Speaker 13: made it all happen. Our dear friends and literally the 827 00:38:51,120 --> 00:38:54,800 Speaker 13: hardest working crew in Hollywood. From creators Ryan Murphy and 828 00:38:54,880 --> 00:38:58,440 Speaker 13: I and Brennan, to directors, camera operators, musical directors. We 829 00:38:58,480 --> 00:39:01,120 Speaker 13: are sharing all of our experiences on Glee. 830 00:39:01,320 --> 00:39:03,319 Speaker 12: So meet us in the choir room at McKinley High 831 00:39:03,320 --> 00:39:05,439 Speaker 12: and join us weekly on and that's what you really 832 00:39:05,480 --> 00:39:08,000 Speaker 12: missed available wherever you listen to your podcasts. 833 00:39:09,640 --> 00:39:13,120 Speaker 14: Hi, I'm Chris Harrison, host of the Most Dramatic Podcast Ever. 834 00:39:13,880 --> 00:39:17,920 Speaker 14: I'm just like you, always looking for something interesting, heartfelt 835 00:39:18,080 --> 00:39:21,759 Speaker 14: and entertaining to listen to. You know, look, maybe you 836 00:39:21,840 --> 00:39:24,439 Speaker 14: used to watch a show every Monday night and now 837 00:39:24,480 --> 00:39:26,719 Speaker 14: you have a lot of time on your hands and 838 00:39:26,760 --> 00:39:30,200 Speaker 14: you're looking for something new, someone who's here for the 839 00:39:30,280 --> 00:39:34,040 Speaker 14: right reasons. If you will, I've got you. Listen to 840 00:39:34,040 --> 00:39:38,040 Speaker 14: the Most Dramatic Podcast Ever on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, 841 00:39:38,160 --> 00:39:40,080 Speaker 14: or wherever you listen to podcasts. 842 00:39:45,600 --> 00:39:49,239 Speaker 1: So, do you remember anything about being told that you 843 00:39:49,280 --> 00:39:51,240 Speaker 1: weren't coming back for season four? 844 00:39:51,560 --> 00:39:52,840 Speaker 3: Or were you not told? 845 00:39:52,880 --> 00:39:52,960 Speaker 7: Like? 846 00:39:53,040 --> 00:39:55,840 Speaker 3: How did that? Do you remember how that situation came about? 847 00:39:56,960 --> 00:39:58,959 Speaker 3: I really don't, Okay. 848 00:39:59,080 --> 00:40:03,839 Speaker 7: I really don't. Maybe maybe it's PTSD exactly know what 849 00:40:04,040 --> 00:40:08,160 Speaker 7: it happened. Again, I don't if I recall, I don't 850 00:40:08,160 --> 00:40:10,239 Speaker 7: think I found out right away. I think it was 851 00:40:11,640 --> 00:40:16,800 Speaker 7: like it wasn't because I found out with other gigs 852 00:40:16,840 --> 00:40:19,680 Speaker 7: about not coming back in a very shady way. I 853 00:40:19,719 --> 00:40:22,480 Speaker 7: don't think I think this was up front, Okay, okay, 854 00:40:23,200 --> 00:40:25,120 Speaker 7: I think it was above board. I think it was. 855 00:40:25,200 --> 00:40:28,600 Speaker 7: I'm pretty sure it was disappointing. I think for me 856 00:40:29,160 --> 00:40:34,600 Speaker 7: when it happened, I remember going, oh, that sucks, but hey, okay, 857 00:40:34,680 --> 00:40:38,160 Speaker 7: that freeze up some time, right, And like, I think 858 00:40:38,200 --> 00:40:41,719 Speaker 7: after that is when I started, you know, touring a 859 00:40:41,719 --> 00:40:43,279 Speaker 7: lot more with the band, because I had to miss 860 00:40:43,320 --> 00:40:45,960 Speaker 7: a lot of shows. Yea, even when when I was 861 00:40:46,000 --> 00:40:48,280 Speaker 7: doing Becker, like, I had to leave the band completely 862 00:40:48,360 --> 00:40:54,200 Speaker 7: for a couple of years. And so I think, once again, 863 00:40:54,239 --> 00:40:58,560 Speaker 7: it's that hindsight thing where you're like, Okay, this sucks, 864 00:40:59,400 --> 00:41:02,120 Speaker 7: but now I can do this for a while and 865 00:41:02,160 --> 00:41:06,240 Speaker 7: not more. Unfortunately, you know, I've got money in the bank. 866 00:41:06,960 --> 00:41:09,480 Speaker 3: Yeah right, yeah, praise you up to tour with music. 867 00:41:09,680 --> 00:41:12,719 Speaker 7: Yeah, exactly. And you know, for a while, that's where 868 00:41:12,760 --> 00:41:14,200 Speaker 7: I looked at it too. I was like, Okay, I 869 00:41:14,719 --> 00:41:19,880 Speaker 7: make a living acting, so I can go do music, 870 00:41:20,120 --> 00:41:22,080 Speaker 7: and if I don't get paid as much, it's fine 871 00:41:22,080 --> 00:41:24,600 Speaker 7: because I still get this right, go out and do that. 872 00:41:25,800 --> 00:41:28,240 Speaker 2: You're That's the same thing they said about like River Phoenix, 873 00:41:28,280 --> 00:41:31,160 Speaker 2: as he was a musician with a great day job. Yeah, 874 00:41:31,160 --> 00:41:33,240 Speaker 2: and that's kind of like if music is your passion, 875 00:41:33,280 --> 00:41:35,200 Speaker 2: that's what it is. It's like I'm making just enough 876 00:41:35,239 --> 00:41:36,680 Speaker 2: acting to keep me in music. 877 00:41:36,960 --> 00:41:38,320 Speaker 6: Which is which is pretty important. 878 00:41:38,440 --> 00:41:41,000 Speaker 2: So I have a question for to to kind of 879 00:41:41,400 --> 00:41:45,919 Speaker 2: help educate our dear listeners. Okay, what so Becker huge show, 880 00:41:45,920 --> 00:41:48,440 Speaker 2: one hundred and thirty episodes you did, it was, you know, 881 00:41:48,600 --> 00:41:50,760 Speaker 2: with Ted Danson and some of the best in the business. 882 00:41:51,239 --> 00:41:55,400 Speaker 2: What other than salty language, what are some differences you 883 00:41:55,520 --> 00:41:58,759 Speaker 2: noticed from being on a show with all adults and 884 00:41:58,800 --> 00:42:00,640 Speaker 2: being on a show with a younger cast. 885 00:42:00,719 --> 00:42:02,160 Speaker 7: Well, we stayed a lot later. 886 00:42:05,040 --> 00:42:05,879 Speaker 4: And a half hours a day. 887 00:42:06,000 --> 00:42:10,040 Speaker 7: Yeah, what is the difference? First off, for me personally, 888 00:42:12,760 --> 00:42:16,680 Speaker 7: it was it was that thing of like we said, 889 00:42:17,080 --> 00:42:20,080 Speaker 7: didn't have to watch the bad language, didn't have to 890 00:42:20,160 --> 00:42:24,200 Speaker 7: watch my steps as much, right, which is a difference. 891 00:42:25,440 --> 00:42:31,400 Speaker 7: The humor. We could do some darker things, and I 892 00:42:31,440 --> 00:42:34,160 Speaker 7: think that that was the other thing too, I was 893 00:42:35,000 --> 00:42:37,160 Speaker 7: being able to do that kind of stuff that we 894 00:42:37,160 --> 00:42:41,840 Speaker 7: could Envoy meets World. I mean, I will tell you 895 00:42:41,880 --> 00:42:45,520 Speaker 7: the same learning experience I got from both shows, which 896 00:42:45,600 --> 00:42:50,600 Speaker 7: started on Voy Meets World but then really took shape 897 00:42:50,640 --> 00:42:54,440 Speaker 7: for me personally on Becker was learning how to treat 898 00:42:54,600 --> 00:43:00,799 Speaker 7: guest cast no, because you know, it's easy to be 899 00:43:00,840 --> 00:43:04,799 Speaker 7: like is my shield. I don't know if I can 900 00:43:04,840 --> 00:43:06,080 Speaker 7: curse on here, but I don't know. 901 00:43:06,360 --> 00:43:07,880 Speaker 3: Absolutely go off. 902 00:43:10,400 --> 00:43:13,480 Speaker 7: And I'm boy me. Tworlds was one of the places 903 00:43:13,520 --> 00:43:16,879 Speaker 7: where I think it clicks for me. It's like, oh no, yeah, 904 00:43:16,960 --> 00:43:20,040 Speaker 7: we're the core group here, but these people around us 905 00:43:20,040 --> 00:43:25,080 Speaker 7: helped build this world. Because they're building this world with us, 906 00:43:25,520 --> 00:43:28,960 Speaker 7: I have to treat them as if well, I have 907 00:43:29,040 --> 00:43:31,440 Speaker 7: to treat them with respect because they are with us. 908 00:43:31,920 --> 00:43:34,480 Speaker 7: Once I got on Becker, I really learned how to 909 00:43:34,560 --> 00:43:37,719 Speaker 7: do that hardcore to the point like every cast, get 910 00:43:37,880 --> 00:43:40,000 Speaker 7: every guest cast, I don't care how big or small. 911 00:43:40,040 --> 00:43:42,640 Speaker 7: Thank you so much for coming out and playing with us, 912 00:43:43,080 --> 00:43:45,879 Speaker 7: you know. And I learned that from Ted especially as well. 913 00:43:46,440 --> 00:43:49,560 Speaker 7: It's just like, you know, we look good because you 914 00:43:49,640 --> 00:43:53,239 Speaker 7: make us a little bit right, you know. So that 915 00:43:53,440 --> 00:44:02,279 Speaker 7: was a big thing both shows. Yeah, I think that's it. 916 00:44:02,360 --> 00:44:08,760 Speaker 7: I mean, because it's funny because writers. I love writers 917 00:44:08,800 --> 00:44:14,040 Speaker 7: because no matter what show, no matter what genre, with writers, 918 00:44:14,440 --> 00:44:16,640 Speaker 7: I can see what they look like when they were kids. 919 00:44:18,280 --> 00:44:22,399 Speaker 7: Writers have this thing, you know, on any TV show 920 00:44:22,400 --> 00:44:24,040 Speaker 7: you work on, you hang with them, and then all 921 00:44:24,040 --> 00:44:26,000 Speaker 7: of a sudden you'll see them on the playground. I'm like, oh, 922 00:44:26,040 --> 00:44:31,400 Speaker 7: I remember you. I remember your archetype. You know. 923 00:44:32,120 --> 00:44:33,759 Speaker 4: All that's true, isn't it. 924 00:44:33,840 --> 00:44:36,560 Speaker 7: Yeah, you can see it, you know, And you're like, okay, 925 00:44:36,600 --> 00:44:39,680 Speaker 7: And for some reason that makes me like, hey, guys, 926 00:44:39,680 --> 00:44:41,359 Speaker 7: what are we doing? What are we playing with today? Right? 927 00:44:42,040 --> 00:44:42,239 Speaker 7: You know? 928 00:44:42,400 --> 00:44:45,160 Speaker 1: You know, you know what I love like from our perspective. 929 00:44:45,560 --> 00:44:47,160 Speaker 1: And I guess I'll just speak for myself, but I 930 00:44:47,160 --> 00:44:48,799 Speaker 1: think I can speak for the other two as well 931 00:44:48,840 --> 00:44:51,640 Speaker 1: when I say that one of the things we so 932 00:44:51,840 --> 00:44:55,319 Speaker 1: appreciated and got so lucky with on Boy Meets World 933 00:44:55,480 --> 00:44:57,080 Speaker 1: is that none of. 934 00:44:56,960 --> 00:45:00,000 Speaker 3: You treated us like little kids. 935 00:45:00,239 --> 00:45:00,919 Speaker 7: Yeah. 936 00:45:01,440 --> 00:45:03,600 Speaker 1: You when I just asked you, like when weill asked you, 937 00:45:03,640 --> 00:45:06,000 Speaker 1: what's the difference between working with kids, It had nothing 938 00:45:06,040 --> 00:45:09,480 Speaker 1: to do with like like you, we were your peers 939 00:45:09,600 --> 00:45:12,920 Speaker 1: as we were, we were fellow actors. We never felt 940 00:45:12,960 --> 00:45:16,120 Speaker 1: like you guys talked down to us, or thought lesser 941 00:45:16,160 --> 00:45:19,800 Speaker 1: of us, or ostracized us in any way for being kids. 942 00:45:19,840 --> 00:45:20,480 Speaker 3: There were the. 943 00:45:20,520 --> 00:45:23,839 Speaker 1: Natural barriers, of course, of like you know, we were 944 00:45:23,840 --> 00:45:26,080 Speaker 1: in the school room and you guys were going to 945 00:45:26,080 --> 00:45:28,719 Speaker 1: play golf or you know where you wouldn't you know, 946 00:45:28,800 --> 00:45:31,200 Speaker 1: tell us about your dating exploits. There were those like 947 00:45:31,320 --> 00:45:38,799 Speaker 1: appropriate boundaries, but as exactly but as professionals, we were all. 948 00:45:38,960 --> 00:45:41,680 Speaker 1: You made us all feel like we were on your 949 00:45:41,719 --> 00:45:47,759 Speaker 1: same level, which is really special because because I know 950 00:45:47,880 --> 00:45:50,640 Speaker 1: other you know, child actors who worked on other shows 951 00:45:50,640 --> 00:45:53,480 Speaker 1: and were on regular shows full time didn't have that experience, 952 00:45:53,600 --> 00:45:56,960 Speaker 1: and we just we were so lucky and like just 953 00:45:57,000 --> 00:45:59,279 Speaker 1: so lucky. You guys were the people we had to 954 00:45:59,360 --> 00:45:59,839 Speaker 1: learn from. 955 00:46:00,239 --> 00:46:03,040 Speaker 7: Plus, you know, it's well, I mean, give yourselves credit 956 00:46:03,160 --> 00:46:06,600 Speaker 7: as well, because you hear horror stories about you know, 957 00:46:06,880 --> 00:46:10,239 Speaker 7: actors or their children, and none of you were like that. 958 00:46:11,200 --> 00:46:13,439 Speaker 7: You guys are actually like, hey, you know, I'm gonna 959 00:46:13,480 --> 00:46:16,319 Speaker 7: be a kid. Yeah, I'm gonna be a kid, you know. 960 00:46:17,440 --> 00:46:21,759 Speaker 7: I think at one point Ben asked me some some 961 00:46:21,880 --> 00:46:27,000 Speaker 7: lady questions, like about love, and I was like, yeah, 962 00:46:28,000 --> 00:46:33,160 Speaker 7: I think I'm gonna back away from this conversation. He's 963 00:46:33,200 --> 00:46:34,799 Speaker 7: like yeah, I think. It was like yeah, I'm thinking 964 00:46:34,800 --> 00:46:36,000 Speaker 7: about this girl, what do you think of this? And 965 00:46:36,040 --> 00:46:40,080 Speaker 7: I was like, that's that's cool, that's that's cool. I'm 966 00:46:40,080 --> 00:46:41,080 Speaker 7: gonna go and have a cigarette. 967 00:46:43,960 --> 00:46:45,640 Speaker 2: It is it's basically like he was saying to you, 968 00:46:45,920 --> 00:46:47,560 Speaker 2: this show is our general hospital. 969 00:46:49,480 --> 00:46:51,879 Speaker 6: You're like, uh huh, thank you very much. 970 00:46:52,000 --> 00:46:54,480 Speaker 2: The girl that's well, that was one of the other 971 00:46:54,480 --> 00:46:55,839 Speaker 2: things that I didn't know if you wanted to get 972 00:46:55,840 --> 00:46:57,319 Speaker 2: into it a little bit. But one of the other 973 00:46:57,360 --> 00:46:59,160 Speaker 2: things I loved about you showing up on the show 974 00:46:59,239 --> 00:47:06,520 Speaker 2: is for the first time, a might a smoking buddy. 975 00:47:01,360 --> 00:47:07,239 Speaker 7: I know I did. 976 00:47:07,360 --> 00:47:11,800 Speaker 6: I finally had a smoking buddy with me. Let's go 977 00:47:11,960 --> 00:47:12,840 Speaker 6: grab a cigarette. 978 00:47:12,880 --> 00:47:21,240 Speaker 3: Come on, Yes, gods. 979 00:47:19,880 --> 00:47:23,000 Speaker 7: I've changed since then, But have you? 980 00:47:23,120 --> 00:47:27,239 Speaker 6: I am Do you still smoke? Yeah, I'm nine years 981 00:47:27,400 --> 00:47:28,120 Speaker 6: nine years without. 982 00:47:28,200 --> 00:47:29,040 Speaker 7: Good on you, man. 983 00:47:29,560 --> 00:47:30,160 Speaker 3: Well, do you. 984 00:47:30,120 --> 00:47:32,480 Speaker 1: Want to share anything that worked for you? Since Alex 985 00:47:32,480 --> 00:47:33,839 Speaker 1: said he's working on it is, do you is there 986 00:47:33,840 --> 00:47:35,160 Speaker 1: anything you want to share that may work? 987 00:47:35,360 --> 00:47:36,279 Speaker 6: And you know I did. 988 00:47:36,320 --> 00:47:38,200 Speaker 2: The thing that worked for me was I went to 989 00:47:38,280 --> 00:47:41,319 Speaker 2: a vape with with a high nicotine charge and then 990 00:47:41,440 --> 00:47:44,200 Speaker 2: I backed they backed the nicotine off, and then when 991 00:47:44,280 --> 00:47:46,000 Speaker 2: I was at zero, I was at zero for like 992 00:47:46,040 --> 00:47:48,359 Speaker 2: a month, and then I've traveled somewhere and I forgot the. 993 00:47:48,360 --> 00:47:50,799 Speaker 6: Vape and I never picked it up again. And that 994 00:47:50,880 --> 00:47:51,560 Speaker 6: was nine years ago. 995 00:47:51,680 --> 00:47:55,680 Speaker 7: Tailor Handy. Now it's like, now it's I'm at the 996 00:47:55,680 --> 00:47:58,160 Speaker 7: point of taking the pause before the action. 997 00:47:59,200 --> 00:48:01,160 Speaker 4: Okay, well that's good, you know, but. 998 00:48:01,200 --> 00:48:05,200 Speaker 7: It doesn't always work. I'm like, yeah, but man, I know. 999 00:48:05,600 --> 00:48:08,399 Speaker 2: Yeah, Sue and I joke about that and I'm always like, God, 1000 00:48:08,400 --> 00:48:11,240 Speaker 2: it's such a filthy habit and I miss it every day. 1001 00:48:11,440 --> 00:48:12,080 Speaker 6: Every day. 1002 00:48:12,120 --> 00:48:17,120 Speaker 7: Every day I can see, like I smoke more when 1003 00:48:17,120 --> 00:48:18,200 Speaker 7: it's a bad golf game. 1004 00:48:19,520 --> 00:48:22,600 Speaker 6: Oh yeah, Essentially it's all the time for me. 1005 00:48:24,520 --> 00:48:27,480 Speaker 7: I'll go to the golf course with three packs of cigarettes. No, 1006 00:48:27,560 --> 00:48:28,000 Speaker 7: I don't. 1007 00:48:31,000 --> 00:48:31,919 Speaker 4: Oh my yes. 1008 00:48:32,160 --> 00:48:33,840 Speaker 2: So we always One of the on running things we 1009 00:48:33,880 --> 00:48:35,480 Speaker 2: have in the show is we want to build a 1010 00:48:35,520 --> 00:48:37,239 Speaker 2: time machine and go back and change some things from 1011 00:48:37,320 --> 00:48:39,719 Speaker 2: the show. I'm going to force our friendship when I 1012 00:48:39,760 --> 00:48:41,680 Speaker 2: go back in time. That's what it's going to be. 1013 00:48:41,719 --> 00:48:42,960 Speaker 2: I'm hanging out with you all. You're gonna be like, 1014 00:48:43,000 --> 00:48:43,520 Speaker 2: who is this? 1015 00:48:43,600 --> 00:48:43,920 Speaker 10: Katie? 1016 00:48:43,960 --> 00:48:46,880 Speaker 4: Will not leave me alone? You would have had to 1017 00:48:46,880 --> 00:48:49,239 Speaker 4: have left oak Wood apartments? Will would be? 1018 00:48:50,719 --> 00:48:52,840 Speaker 6: It would have been so scary and dangerous. 1019 00:48:53,520 --> 00:48:56,200 Speaker 7: What would have happened? Will? Will you call that a 1020 00:48:56,239 --> 00:48:59,160 Speaker 7: shoe shot? 1021 00:48:59,200 --> 00:49:09,960 Speaker 8: I'm trying, Yeah, sir, Oh that's so funny. 1022 00:49:10,000 --> 00:49:12,520 Speaker 7: Too close, too close? I said, eight paces behind. 1023 00:49:15,000 --> 00:49:18,839 Speaker 2: Gosh, and then you and I. Here's the other thing 1024 00:49:18,920 --> 00:49:20,319 Speaker 2: that a lot of people don't know. I'm not sure 1025 00:49:20,360 --> 00:49:22,320 Speaker 2: you even remember this. You and I did a pilot 1026 00:49:22,360 --> 00:49:25,760 Speaker 2: together after Boy Mets World that you ended up coming 1027 00:49:25,800 --> 00:49:30,800 Speaker 2: to my house to shoot with Jeff Sherman wrote a 1028 00:49:30,840 --> 00:49:33,359 Speaker 2: pilot that starred Larissa Olenic, that's right. 1029 00:49:33,719 --> 00:49:35,239 Speaker 6: And I was in it, and you were in it 1030 00:49:35,760 --> 00:49:38,400 Speaker 6: the way he was. And weren't you. Weren't you dressed 1031 00:49:38,480 --> 00:49:41,200 Speaker 6: like a chicken? That's what it was. 1032 00:49:41,200 --> 00:49:44,480 Speaker 2: Okay, just remember you and a giant in my living 1033 00:49:44,520 --> 00:49:47,400 Speaker 2: room and you in some giant costume yea. 1034 00:49:49,600 --> 00:49:52,600 Speaker 7: From that. 1035 00:49:53,160 --> 00:50:03,160 Speaker 5: SpongeBob you know it. 1036 00:50:00,040 --> 00:50:08,800 Speaker 7: Bill did. Let me let me tell you about the glory. 1037 00:50:09,239 --> 00:50:15,200 Speaker 6: I do this little film called Oh That's so funny? 1038 00:50:15,480 --> 00:50:18,200 Speaker 3: Do you ever do you bet from that time? 1039 00:50:18,280 --> 00:50:21,240 Speaker 6: Will I bet you Sherman does? I'll bet you Sherman. 1040 00:50:21,600 --> 00:50:22,600 Speaker 4: And I'm seeing him tonight. 1041 00:50:22,680 --> 00:50:26,160 Speaker 6: I'm actually seeing him tonight, So yeah, that's so funny. 1042 00:50:26,719 --> 00:50:27,960 Speaker 7: Send him some love. WI. 1043 00:50:28,200 --> 00:50:30,239 Speaker 2: His wife, Wendy Leaveman, is a stand up comedian and 1044 00:50:30,320 --> 00:50:32,479 Speaker 2: she's performing in Burbank tonight with a whole group of people, 1045 00:50:32,480 --> 00:50:34,120 Speaker 2: and and Susan and I are going. 1046 00:50:33,840 --> 00:50:36,440 Speaker 6: So yeah, Yeah, it's gonna be great. 1047 00:50:36,520 --> 00:50:38,480 Speaker 7: Yeah. I gotta get back in touch with those folks 1048 00:50:38,560 --> 00:50:40,440 Speaker 7: like Jeff and I were hanging for a minute and 1049 00:50:40,600 --> 00:50:43,520 Speaker 7: that kind of I ended up working with Howard bust 1050 00:50:43,560 --> 00:50:47,920 Speaker 7: Gang on a pilot. Yeah, didn't get picked up, but 1051 00:50:47,960 --> 00:50:52,000 Speaker 7: it was one of those things. And I think if 1052 00:50:52,000 --> 00:50:57,120 Speaker 7: I recall, he had yeah, some of the Boy Meets 1053 00:50:57,120 --> 00:50:58,560 Speaker 7: World writers were helping me. 1054 00:51:00,040 --> 00:51:03,600 Speaker 2: Yeah, man, and maybe Matt Nelson. 1055 00:51:04,560 --> 00:51:07,120 Speaker 7: Not Matt, although it was great because I used to 1056 00:51:07,160 --> 00:51:16,120 Speaker 7: see Matt all the time in the valley too. Yeah yeah, man, yeah, are. 1057 00:51:15,960 --> 00:51:17,520 Speaker 4: You still in the valley? 1058 00:51:17,840 --> 00:51:18,680 Speaker 3: Are you in the valley? 1059 00:51:18,800 --> 00:51:20,799 Speaker 7: No? No, no, no no no. 1060 00:51:20,840 --> 00:51:22,960 Speaker 3: I've said, why were you running into him in. 1061 00:51:22,960 --> 00:51:26,560 Speaker 7: The valley because I had friends out there and coffee. 1062 00:51:26,880 --> 00:51:29,040 Speaker 6: You still do, Alex, you still have friends. 1063 00:51:32,480 --> 00:51:35,440 Speaker 4: Just avoid the valley never never. 1064 00:51:38,560 --> 00:51:39,440 Speaker 6: Oh that's so funny. 1065 00:51:39,600 --> 00:51:41,239 Speaker 3: Well, we can put you in touch with all those people. 1066 00:51:41,400 --> 00:51:47,120 Speaker 7: F y. Yeah, just reached out to me too on Instagram. 1067 00:51:47,160 --> 00:51:48,040 Speaker 3: That's not surprising. 1068 00:51:48,280 --> 00:51:55,040 Speaker 15: Yeah, it's it is high time, I think for a 1069 00:51:55,160 --> 00:52:01,120 Speaker 15: full Boy me World party reunion, everyone getting together somewhere, drinks, food. 1070 00:52:01,480 --> 00:52:02,600 Speaker 5: We said we were going to do it when we 1071 00:52:02,640 --> 00:52:04,799 Speaker 5: reached the end of season one, and we didn't say 1072 00:52:04,960 --> 00:52:05,520 Speaker 5: we should do it. 1073 00:52:05,560 --> 00:52:07,680 Speaker 4: I mean, I'm I'm happy to host it my place 1074 00:52:07,719 --> 00:52:09,480 Speaker 4: man to do it. 1075 00:52:09,600 --> 00:52:11,560 Speaker 1: So well, I have to ask, do you still get 1076 00:52:11,600 --> 00:52:13,080 Speaker 1: recognized for Boy Meets World at all? 1077 00:52:14,200 --> 00:52:17,920 Speaker 7: Uh? Huh to you? You know, it's funny. Streaming is 1078 00:52:18,000 --> 00:52:23,560 Speaker 7: hilarious because before streaming, like you know, you know how 1079 00:52:23,600 --> 00:52:26,160 Speaker 7: that somebody looks at you and you start walking towards 1080 00:52:26,200 --> 00:52:28,400 Speaker 7: you and they're like, okay here. I used to be 1081 00:52:28,440 --> 00:52:31,879 Speaker 7: able to tell what they recognized me from. So I'd 1082 00:52:31,880 --> 00:52:35,520 Speaker 7: be like, oh, I do not know you? Yes, that's it. 1083 00:52:37,200 --> 00:52:40,880 Speaker 7: If not know you, yeah, beckerl Oh And then like 1084 00:52:41,080 --> 00:52:43,799 Speaker 7: I could, you could always tell the Boy Meets World folks, 1085 00:52:44,160 --> 00:52:48,520 Speaker 7: which is great. But then streaming happened, and so now 1086 00:52:48,760 --> 00:52:53,120 Speaker 7: I can't tell ye people know me from. I'm like, 1087 00:52:53,160 --> 00:52:54,520 Speaker 7: what the what the who? 1088 00:52:55,120 --> 00:52:56,440 Speaker 3: It's probably all of it. 1089 00:52:56,680 --> 00:52:59,360 Speaker 7: Yeah, and it's funny. I didn't realize it's all Disney. 1090 00:52:59,440 --> 00:53:04,560 Speaker 2: I'm like, okay, it's very similar for all. 1091 00:53:04,960 --> 00:53:06,600 Speaker 6: Are you still playing are you still playing music? 1092 00:53:06,760 --> 00:53:09,400 Speaker 7: Uh huh? We actually just played The Will Turn last week. 1093 00:53:09,880 --> 00:53:10,160 Speaker 10: Wow. 1094 00:53:10,640 --> 00:53:12,960 Speaker 6: Yeah yeah, so we can go to a Hapcat show. 1095 00:53:13,040 --> 00:53:16,600 Speaker 7: Still we're still at a gun all right, We're still 1096 00:53:16,640 --> 00:53:19,640 Speaker 7: at it. We got our walkers, and we can get 1097 00:53:19,640 --> 00:53:22,480 Speaker 7: matching tattoos and matching tattoos. 1098 00:53:21,880 --> 00:53:24,920 Speaker 4: After you're now the you're the broken hepcats. 1099 00:53:24,920 --> 00:53:29,520 Speaker 6: Thank you very much. I broke my heap. 1100 00:53:34,800 --> 00:53:45,080 Speaker 5: Well wow, he had to repeat it. He had to 1101 00:53:45,080 --> 00:53:48,120 Speaker 5: reformulate it because he said broken hecats. We all were like, okay, 1102 00:53:48,160 --> 00:53:51,879 Speaker 5: but then, yeah, that's that's where should name your next door. 1103 00:53:51,960 --> 00:53:57,280 Speaker 4: I broke my head. I broke my head. 1104 00:53:58,239 --> 00:53:59,960 Speaker 7: There was once where we did a couple of years 1105 00:54:00,000 --> 00:54:02,879 Speaker 7: as ago, but I don't remember. It was the first 1106 00:54:02,920 --> 00:54:04,839 Speaker 7: time I was like, oh, yeah, we're getting older. Like 1107 00:54:04,880 --> 00:54:06,120 Speaker 7: we used to go on to it and be like, Yo, 1108 00:54:07,239 --> 00:54:09,480 Speaker 7: when's this, where's that? You got this? You got that? 1109 00:54:09,600 --> 00:54:11,560 Speaker 7: Who's that? And then one of these tours was like, 1110 00:54:11,600 --> 00:54:16,080 Speaker 7: hey man, did you bring any beat twelve? Hey, do 1111 00:54:16,120 --> 00:54:20,880 Speaker 7: you have any one of those moments like I'm sipping 1112 00:54:20,920 --> 00:54:22,840 Speaker 7: pee on Okay, it's. 1113 00:54:22,400 --> 00:54:26,440 Speaker 2: Happening here, we are, here, we are for those guys. 1114 00:54:26,480 --> 00:54:30,160 Speaker 6: Now that's awesome. 1115 00:54:31,000 --> 00:54:34,359 Speaker 1: Okay, Well, before we let you go, I absolutely have 1116 00:54:34,440 --> 00:54:37,920 Speaker 1: to talk about the Simpsons, otherwise my husband will kill me. 1117 00:54:39,600 --> 00:54:43,240 Speaker 1: You have had a very successful voiceover career four years, 1118 00:54:43,360 --> 00:54:46,160 Speaker 1: much like will you are a superhero. 1119 00:54:46,600 --> 00:54:49,200 Speaker 7: Man I'm just trying to stay in there. 1120 00:54:49,239 --> 00:54:54,839 Speaker 1: Yeah, right on the Simpsons, Yes, Simps. But you are 1121 00:54:54,880 --> 00:54:58,040 Speaker 1: now the voice of Carl and Lou. What has that 1122 00:54:58,239 --> 00:54:58,920 Speaker 1: legacy been? 1123 00:54:59,080 --> 00:55:02,480 Speaker 7: Like? Man, it's first off, I'm still going is this happening? 1124 00:55:02,760 --> 00:55:04,759 Speaker 7: I guess that's you know what, guys, I think that's 1125 00:55:04,760 --> 00:55:06,640 Speaker 7: just how I go through life. I'm like that this 1126 00:55:06,719 --> 00:55:07,319 Speaker 7: is really happen. 1127 00:55:09,360 --> 00:55:10,640 Speaker 6: That's how you know you're doing well. 1128 00:55:10,680 --> 00:55:11,520 Speaker 4: That's the joy of it. 1129 00:55:11,760 --> 00:55:16,400 Speaker 7: Yeah, No, it's been great. I mean there are a 1130 00:55:16,400 --> 00:55:19,040 Speaker 7: bunch of times on my really, I'm just like when 1131 00:55:19,040 --> 00:55:23,400 Speaker 7: I was I'm buying bro I'm still here, Okay. I 1132 00:55:23,480 --> 00:55:26,120 Speaker 7: mean it's been great. I mean it's you know, what 1133 00:55:26,800 --> 00:55:29,480 Speaker 7: a gift, what a what a blessing. When it came up, 1134 00:55:30,239 --> 00:55:34,279 Speaker 7: you know it was the right time, you know, it 1135 00:55:34,440 --> 00:55:36,759 Speaker 7: was you know, as we've all been living through this 1136 00:55:36,880 --> 00:55:42,640 Speaker 7: bizarre time, so it made complete sense. And it's been Yeah, 1137 00:55:42,719 --> 00:55:45,920 Speaker 7: it's just been a joy. It's you know, you know 1138 00:55:45,960 --> 00:55:48,560 Speaker 7: what it's like. You know how when you read a script, 1139 00:55:48,840 --> 00:55:51,280 Speaker 7: you know how rare it is when you read something 1140 00:55:51,320 --> 00:55:55,319 Speaker 7: you actually laugh out loud while you're reading. Yeah, and 1141 00:55:55,400 --> 00:55:57,800 Speaker 7: so to read something and be like oh snap, I 1142 00:55:57,920 --> 00:56:02,160 Speaker 7: just kind of and then like we'll do the table 1143 00:56:02,239 --> 00:56:07,200 Speaker 7: reads and you know, it's still all zoom at this point, 1144 00:56:08,000 --> 00:56:08,960 Speaker 7: but I'm in awe. 1145 00:56:09,719 --> 00:56:11,800 Speaker 6: Yeah, it's nuts all. 1146 00:56:11,800 --> 00:56:16,600 Speaker 7: Watching people do what they do, you know. Yeah, and 1147 00:56:16,800 --> 00:56:19,640 Speaker 7: to just have like a part of that, I'm completely grateful. 1148 00:56:19,680 --> 00:56:23,880 Speaker 7: And you know, even when we when we record with 1149 00:56:24,040 --> 00:56:26,719 Speaker 7: the directors and the writers are able to kind of 1150 00:56:26,760 --> 00:56:29,040 Speaker 7: the way Mike Jacobs was like, you see that joke there, 1151 00:56:29,239 --> 00:56:31,920 Speaker 7: you put these two together and turns into three different things. 1152 00:56:32,200 --> 00:56:35,600 Speaker 7: They're the exact same way where they just understand comedy 1153 00:56:35,640 --> 00:56:38,560 Speaker 7: and also understand the characters. So it's been a great, 1154 00:56:39,320 --> 00:56:40,279 Speaker 7: great experience. 1155 00:56:40,800 --> 00:56:43,240 Speaker 6: You know, it's amazing. 1156 00:56:43,600 --> 00:56:46,360 Speaker 7: That was a really nice sound by the kind of ramble, 1157 00:56:46,520 --> 00:56:47,720 Speaker 7: but it was a nice one. 1158 00:56:47,600 --> 00:56:49,279 Speaker 3: That I. 1159 00:56:50,880 --> 00:56:54,040 Speaker 2: Felt it we're talking about the Simpsons, I mean you're 1160 00:56:54,040 --> 00:56:56,680 Speaker 2: talking about arguably the most crisp comedy writing that's been 1161 00:56:56,680 --> 00:56:58,640 Speaker 2: on television for thirty five year impression. 1162 00:56:58,880 --> 00:57:01,080 Speaker 4: I mean, yeah, it's incredible. 1163 00:57:01,080 --> 00:57:03,160 Speaker 2: I mean it's and when you you know, I've always 1164 00:57:03,160 --> 00:57:05,239 Speaker 2: said I've been very lucky my voice over career, but 1165 00:57:05,280 --> 00:57:07,800 Speaker 2: I've never been one of those people that does twenty voices. 1166 00:57:08,239 --> 00:57:10,440 Speaker 2: So when you're sitting with those people and you're just going, 1167 00:57:10,480 --> 00:57:12,440 Speaker 2: how are you playing nineteen people in a row? 1168 00:57:12,520 --> 00:57:14,680 Speaker 6: It's you just it's like, how. 1169 00:57:14,560 --> 00:57:17,840 Speaker 7: Is this happening? Exactly? I'm like, you know my VEO stuff. 1170 00:57:17,840 --> 00:57:19,920 Speaker 7: I'm like, all right, I know my lanes. I can 1171 00:57:19,960 --> 00:57:22,120 Speaker 7: meet too. I can do that and that's me time. 1172 00:57:22,600 --> 00:57:24,560 Speaker 7: But then you watch you know, I always go back 1173 00:57:24,600 --> 00:57:26,960 Speaker 7: to mel Blank. I'm like, he did all those characters 1174 00:57:27,560 --> 00:57:28,320 Speaker 7: by himself. 1175 00:57:28,440 --> 00:57:29,520 Speaker 4: Yeah, in a room. 1176 00:57:29,960 --> 00:57:32,040 Speaker 7: And you'll watch these cats do this when we're doing 1177 00:57:32,040 --> 00:57:35,360 Speaker 7: the Simpsons. I'm like, they're just playing against each other yep, 1178 00:57:35,480 --> 00:57:35,880 Speaker 7: by them. 1179 00:57:36,160 --> 00:57:39,880 Speaker 6: So it's it's nuts. It's absolutely no, I do that. 1180 00:57:39,920 --> 00:57:41,600 Speaker 6: One of the coolest things being crazy. 1181 00:57:42,240 --> 00:57:43,960 Speaker 7: They do that, and. 1182 00:57:43,920 --> 00:57:47,640 Speaker 6: It's called being a billionaire exactly. 1183 00:57:47,760 --> 00:57:50,720 Speaker 12: Yeah, yeah, I love that. 1184 00:57:51,160 --> 00:57:56,160 Speaker 1: Our final question for you is now, almost thirty years later, 1185 00:57:56,680 --> 00:57:58,840 Speaker 1: how do you look back on your time at Boy 1186 00:57:58,880 --> 00:57:59,400 Speaker 1: Meets World? 1187 00:58:00,120 --> 00:58:05,280 Speaker 7: A great learning experiences, a great growing experience. It you know, 1188 00:58:05,520 --> 00:58:09,160 Speaker 7: it was it was a weird time too for me personally, 1189 00:58:10,160 --> 00:58:12,520 Speaker 7: because I think internally I was still trying to figure 1190 00:58:12,600 --> 00:58:16,600 Speaker 7: myself out. So as much light as there was, there 1191 00:58:16,640 --> 00:58:19,400 Speaker 7: was also dark going on. But to be able to 1192 00:58:19,440 --> 00:58:22,240 Speaker 7: go through it, you know, and have a place to 1193 00:58:22,280 --> 00:58:26,000 Speaker 7: come to where I could just hang was awesome and 1194 00:58:26,120 --> 00:58:27,960 Speaker 7: you know, like I said, if it wasn't for that, 1195 00:58:28,000 --> 00:58:31,600 Speaker 7: there would be no this, you know. So it was 1196 00:58:31,760 --> 00:58:36,680 Speaker 7: great and I still quote Bill Daniel's one of my 1197 00:58:36,760 --> 00:58:39,440 Speaker 7: favorite lines of all. I still sing Tony Tyler Quinn. 1198 00:58:40,720 --> 00:58:42,720 Speaker 7: But one of the other things, there was one episode 1199 00:58:42,760 --> 00:58:45,440 Speaker 7: you did where I think I stole like some fruit 1200 00:58:46,320 --> 00:58:50,200 Speaker 7: or something like that, and Bill had the most wonderful 1201 00:58:50,240 --> 00:58:53,840 Speaker 7: line and delivery, which I say at random now, which 1202 00:58:53,920 --> 00:59:01,480 Speaker 7: is uh that mango man, and that'll just pop up 1203 00:59:01,520 --> 00:59:03,680 Speaker 7: out of nowhere, you know, how you got stuff like yes, 1204 00:59:03,800 --> 00:59:06,600 Speaker 7: real life, you know, and you know I'll be in 1205 00:59:06,640 --> 00:59:10,160 Speaker 7: the VEO booth trying to get something right, not mango man. Okay, 1206 00:59:10,160 --> 00:59:15,400 Speaker 7: I got it. I think it was all my real too. 1207 00:59:18,920 --> 00:59:21,160 Speaker 1: I love that, and I I know I said that 1208 00:59:21,240 --> 00:59:23,080 Speaker 1: was my last question for you, but you touched on 1209 00:59:23,160 --> 00:59:26,880 Speaker 1: it twice talking about the darkness, and because we love 1210 00:59:26,960 --> 00:59:30,240 Speaker 1: what we do on this podcast for having people on 1211 00:59:30,320 --> 00:59:32,120 Speaker 1: and they talk about the funny and they talk about 1212 00:59:32,120 --> 00:59:34,280 Speaker 1: the good, but they also talk about that and we 1213 00:59:34,760 --> 00:59:37,439 Speaker 1: everyone can benefit and learn from it. Do you care 1214 00:59:37,480 --> 00:59:39,600 Speaker 1: to touch on it all, any of the personal darkness 1215 00:59:39,600 --> 00:59:40,640 Speaker 1: that was going on for you and. 1216 00:59:40,840 --> 00:59:45,160 Speaker 7: There's a lot of self doubt. You know. We're actors, actors, 1217 00:59:45,160 --> 00:59:50,080 Speaker 7: we're sensitive some some bitches, we're freelance. Yeah, you know. 1218 00:59:50,160 --> 00:59:52,920 Speaker 7: What always gets me And this is something you know, 1219 00:59:53,360 --> 00:59:55,760 Speaker 7: I'll be honest, I still struggle with and work on. 1220 00:59:55,920 --> 00:59:59,480 Speaker 7: Is I'm in a profession where I say, I have 1221 00:59:59,520 --> 01:00:04,280 Speaker 7: to say, Man, I'm the best, I'm the best. Like me, please. 1222 01:00:05,440 --> 01:00:06,880 Speaker 4: Yeah, hire me please. 1223 01:00:07,120 --> 01:00:09,640 Speaker 7: Yeah. It's a it's a weird thing to reconcile and 1224 01:00:09,720 --> 01:00:14,240 Speaker 7: like you know, you know, especially you know when we 1225 01:00:14,240 --> 01:00:17,439 Speaker 7: were doing the show. Well, I was five, six, seven 1226 01:00:17,520 --> 01:00:21,240 Speaker 7: years in the business. I'd already had you know, modicums 1227 01:00:21,240 --> 01:00:23,120 Speaker 7: of success, but scared of it. 1228 01:00:23,840 --> 01:00:24,200 Speaker 3: Yeah. 1229 01:00:24,360 --> 01:00:27,280 Speaker 1: Yeah, you'd also, like you said, had some failures, been 1230 01:00:27,320 --> 01:00:28,720 Speaker 1: fired from some sitcoms. 1231 01:00:28,880 --> 01:00:33,680 Speaker 7: Yeah, you know, and so the stuff to work out, 1232 01:00:33,920 --> 01:00:36,720 Speaker 7: you know, yeah, like the party a little bit back 1233 01:00:36,760 --> 01:00:40,240 Speaker 7: then too, and so about balancing it out, you know. 1234 01:00:40,320 --> 01:00:42,280 Speaker 7: And I think that's just part of growing things. I 1235 01:00:42,280 --> 01:00:47,000 Speaker 7: think that's the human experience, as I say, you know, and. 1236 01:00:47,240 --> 01:00:48,400 Speaker 6: It is though it's it's weird. 1237 01:00:48,680 --> 01:00:51,440 Speaker 2: It's a bizarre business where you've got this combination of 1238 01:00:51,680 --> 01:00:55,160 Speaker 2: ego and imposter syntem where it's like I need to 1239 01:00:55,160 --> 01:00:56,760 Speaker 2: be on the set because I deserve it, I don't 1240 01:00:56,800 --> 01:00:57,240 Speaker 2: deserve it. 1241 01:00:57,640 --> 01:00:59,960 Speaker 6: And it's all in the same emodent. It's very strange. 1242 01:01:00,080 --> 01:01:02,400 Speaker 1: Yeah, And I know we talked about when Boy Meets 1243 01:01:02,440 --> 01:01:05,400 Speaker 1: World was over for you and you you then took 1244 01:01:05,440 --> 01:01:07,480 Speaker 1: that time to go travel with music and stuff. But 1245 01:01:07,520 --> 01:01:10,720 Speaker 1: also it was then four years before you did High Fidelity, which, wow, 1246 01:01:10,840 --> 01:01:13,080 Speaker 1: come out, come out with another project with a bang 1247 01:01:13,120 --> 01:01:16,040 Speaker 1: with High Fidelity. But you know, over the course of 1248 01:01:16,080 --> 01:01:18,600 Speaker 1: four years, how much of that time was you saying 1249 01:01:18,800 --> 01:01:20,920 Speaker 1: I don't want to do another project, I'm focusing on 1250 01:01:21,000 --> 01:01:23,080 Speaker 1: music versus how much of it was Do you think 1251 01:01:23,480 --> 01:01:25,479 Speaker 1: was it hard to get work after Boy Meets World. 1252 01:01:29,440 --> 01:01:32,520 Speaker 7: I think I'm not sure what the what the percentages 1253 01:01:33,080 --> 01:01:36,360 Speaker 7: was both of them were there? Yeah, Because sometimes I'd 1254 01:01:36,360 --> 01:01:37,880 Speaker 7: be like, I'm not getting work. All right, let's get 1255 01:01:37,880 --> 01:01:40,200 Speaker 7: on the work, let's get on the road. I don't 1256 01:01:40,200 --> 01:01:43,840 Speaker 7: care forget this reason. And the funny thing is it's 1257 01:01:44,280 --> 01:01:48,520 Speaker 7: what did I was listening to Smartlus or something and 1258 01:01:48,680 --> 01:01:54,240 Speaker 7: they said it perfectly, that's Texian difference, right, And that's 1259 01:01:54,240 --> 01:01:56,600 Speaker 7: when the work happens. And so I'd go on tour 1260 01:01:56,640 --> 01:02:00,560 Speaker 7: and I'd come back, even with Becker if I remembered, Yeah, 1261 01:02:00,600 --> 01:02:02,320 Speaker 7: we got this great audition for it. Yeah, I can't 1262 01:02:02,320 --> 01:02:05,360 Speaker 7: make it. And I think I changed my audition like 1263 01:02:05,400 --> 01:02:09,760 Speaker 7: four or five times, you know, until I finally want you. Yeah, 1264 01:02:09,800 --> 01:02:11,840 Speaker 7: And that's what it is. It's like, it's the same thing. 1265 01:02:11,920 --> 01:02:14,120 Speaker 7: I book a ticket to Thailand. Oh, I got the 1266 01:02:14,160 --> 01:02:15,160 Speaker 7: movie that I always wanted. 1267 01:02:16,000 --> 01:02:18,200 Speaker 2: I was just going to say that, there's the old adage, 1268 01:02:18,200 --> 01:02:19,840 Speaker 2: if you want the audition, you want the part book 1269 01:02:19,840 --> 01:02:21,280 Speaker 2: a non refundable planet. 1270 01:02:22,000 --> 01:02:23,960 Speaker 7: I've been trying out a lot lately. It doesn't work 1271 01:02:23,960 --> 01:02:24,320 Speaker 7: as much. 1272 01:02:26,080 --> 01:02:27,760 Speaker 4: Now you're just stuck with all these vacations. 1273 01:02:29,320 --> 01:02:32,640 Speaker 5: I've been traveled the world for two years, just like. 1274 01:02:37,360 --> 01:02:40,120 Speaker 7: Man. But yeah, I mean, that's what it is. It's 1275 01:02:40,120 --> 01:02:43,240 Speaker 7: just finding that balance, man. And the great thing is 1276 01:02:44,440 --> 01:02:46,240 Speaker 7: I had a moment of going, do I still love 1277 01:02:46,320 --> 01:02:50,760 Speaker 7: being an actor or do I just need to get 1278 01:02:50,760 --> 01:02:53,760 Speaker 7: paid pay the bills? And then when I had that 1279 01:02:53,840 --> 01:02:58,080 Speaker 7: realization that I still love being an actor, I was like, Okay, 1280 01:02:58,440 --> 01:03:00,280 Speaker 7: that's it. We're good. That's awesome. 1281 01:03:01,840 --> 01:03:05,960 Speaker 6: Voiceover does that really well? Where you are. 1282 01:03:05,880 --> 01:03:08,920 Speaker 2: It's you and a microphone and it's pure acting, and 1283 01:03:08,960 --> 01:03:09,920 Speaker 2: you walk out of the booth. 1284 01:03:09,960 --> 01:03:11,360 Speaker 6: It's like the perfect golf shot. 1285 01:03:11,400 --> 01:03:11,680 Speaker 7: You go. 1286 01:03:12,240 --> 01:03:15,640 Speaker 6: I love this and it does. It just brings it 1287 01:03:15,800 --> 01:03:16,960 Speaker 6: right all back to you. 1288 01:03:17,000 --> 01:03:17,680 Speaker 4: It really does. 1289 01:03:17,840 --> 01:03:19,520 Speaker 6: Yeah, I'm so pure about it. 1290 01:03:20,520 --> 01:03:22,840 Speaker 7: I can go under the booth in a mood. 1291 01:03:24,600 --> 01:03:29,720 Speaker 6: And now it is perfect. 1292 01:03:30,200 --> 01:03:31,120 Speaker 4: It's just so good. 1293 01:03:31,160 --> 01:03:33,800 Speaker 6: I just played Superman like it's the greatest thing ever. 1294 01:03:33,960 --> 01:03:35,000 Speaker 4: Yeah, it's awesome. So yeah. 1295 01:03:35,080 --> 01:03:38,680 Speaker 2: Voiceover does that For any actor out there who's wondering, God, 1296 01:03:38,680 --> 01:03:40,640 Speaker 2: do I want to do this anymore? Just start playing 1297 01:03:40,640 --> 01:03:43,400 Speaker 2: with some voices. You'll see how happy you get, how quickly. Yeah, 1298 01:03:43,440 --> 01:03:44,080 Speaker 2: it's amazing. 1299 01:03:44,320 --> 01:03:47,720 Speaker 1: Wow, Alex, thank you so much for spending your time 1300 01:03:47,880 --> 01:03:51,120 Speaker 1: with us here today. We have really truly been so 1301 01:03:51,160 --> 01:03:54,720 Speaker 1: looking forward to reconnecting with you. And aside from doing 1302 01:03:54,760 --> 01:03:58,680 Speaker 1: a Big Boy meets World in person reunion, we will 1303 01:03:58,720 --> 01:04:02,880 Speaker 1: see you at a Hepcat show work. Yes, we will do. 1304 01:04:03,880 --> 01:04:06,439 Speaker 1: Thank you so much for being here. So much love 1305 01:04:06,480 --> 01:04:06,720 Speaker 1: to you. 1306 01:04:08,200 --> 01:04:08,720 Speaker 3: We will. 1307 01:04:09,280 --> 01:04:12,560 Speaker 1: We will immediately pick a date and and uh make something, 1308 01:04:12,880 --> 01:04:15,120 Speaker 1: make something happen because we need we need to do it. 1309 01:04:15,640 --> 01:04:16,400 Speaker 3: I thank you. 1310 01:04:16,600 --> 01:04:17,200 Speaker 7: I like it. 1311 01:04:18,760 --> 01:04:19,760 Speaker 4: So good to see you man. 1312 01:04:20,960 --> 01:04:23,440 Speaker 6: Wow, Thank you Alex. We're going to see you soon, 1313 01:04:23,520 --> 01:04:24,240 Speaker 6: right to work. 1314 01:04:24,600 --> 01:04:37,200 Speaker 3: Thank you bye? How great is he. 1315 01:04:38,760 --> 01:04:39,280 Speaker 6: Forgot that? 1316 01:04:39,440 --> 01:04:42,120 Speaker 2: Energy sometimes, you know, I just you forget that energy 1317 01:04:42,120 --> 01:04:42,920 Speaker 2: when you're not around it. 1318 01:04:42,880 --> 01:04:44,280 Speaker 6: And it's just so awesome. 1319 01:04:44,480 --> 01:04:48,000 Speaker 2: Yeah, this was one of my favorite conversations we've had too. 1320 01:04:48,080 --> 01:04:48,640 Speaker 7: He really was. 1321 01:04:48,800 --> 01:04:49,240 Speaker 4: Yeah. 1322 01:04:49,280 --> 01:04:52,120 Speaker 5: It's amazing when when somebody like that opens up about 1323 01:04:52,240 --> 01:04:54,600 Speaker 5: being insecure at all, because it comes across. 1324 01:04:54,280 --> 01:04:57,880 Speaker 3: As the most secure members I know. 1325 01:04:58,000 --> 01:05:00,280 Speaker 5: Yeah, that's what I remember about him coming on to 1326 01:05:00,360 --> 01:05:04,000 Speaker 5: Boy Metro is like just just he belonged there, and 1327 01:05:04,040 --> 01:05:06,680 Speaker 5: he was always cool and always comfortable, and it's so 1328 01:05:06,800 --> 01:05:08,600 Speaker 5: weird to think that he was like a twenty five 1329 01:05:08,680 --> 01:05:10,800 Speaker 5: year old business a. 1330 01:05:10,800 --> 01:05:12,960 Speaker 6: Lot of way he was twenty five, and I couldn't 1331 01:05:12,960 --> 01:05:14,960 Speaker 6: believe that. That's amazing. I thought he was older than that. 1332 01:05:15,120 --> 01:05:17,840 Speaker 4: Of course they were a old that's the thing. Everybody 1333 01:05:18,000 --> 01:05:20,440 Speaker 4: was like twenty plus was old, you know. 1334 01:05:20,600 --> 01:05:23,400 Speaker 3: Right right, and adults who knew everything. 1335 01:05:23,960 --> 01:05:26,240 Speaker 4: Oh yeah of course. Yeah, so cool. 1336 01:05:27,200 --> 01:05:28,960 Speaker 5: I wish I could go back, and just like the 1337 01:05:29,040 --> 01:05:31,520 Speaker 5: dynamic between him and Tony must have been super interesting. 1338 01:05:32,040 --> 01:05:36,400 Speaker 5: They're both incredibly nice people, but completely different lifestyles totally right, 1339 01:05:36,880 --> 01:05:41,760 Speaker 5: Like Tony was already married, had a kid already. Yeah, 1340 01:05:41,920 --> 01:05:44,360 Speaker 5: but he was, you know, and he's very religious, he's 1341 01:05:44,480 --> 01:05:48,080 Speaker 5: very clean, cut, and I imagined that Alex at that 1342 01:05:48,120 --> 01:05:49,400 Speaker 5: time was not as clean cut. 1343 01:05:50,000 --> 01:05:52,080 Speaker 3: It was very different life. 1344 01:05:52,280 --> 01:05:54,959 Speaker 5: Yeah, so it's so, but I'm sure they got along 1345 01:05:54,960 --> 01:05:58,080 Speaker 5: because totally you know, but very different lifestyles. 1346 01:05:58,640 --> 01:05:59,240 Speaker 4: So on it. 1347 01:05:59,560 --> 01:06:01,080 Speaker 1: Well, thank thank you all for joining us for this 1348 01:06:01,160 --> 01:06:03,520 Speaker 1: episode of Podmeets World. As always, you can follow us 1349 01:06:03,560 --> 01:06:05,840 Speaker 1: on Instagram pod Meets World Show. 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