1 00:00:00,160 --> 00:00:10,080 Speaker 1: Come MK on the ground in South Florida. I've been 2 00:00:10,119 --> 00:00:11,520 Speaker 1: I don't know if people know that we're getting a 3 00:00:11,560 --> 00:00:13,399 Speaker 1: little bit of the dad shape lately, but I want 4 00:00:13,400 --> 00:00:14,720 Speaker 1: to take it to the next level. I want to 5 00:00:14,760 --> 00:00:17,640 Speaker 1: get strong the room, strong. 6 00:00:21,560 --> 00:00:22,280 Speaker 2: Hop in the feet. 7 00:00:22,440 --> 00:00:24,560 Speaker 3: I'm with the dog street popping and the leader ragging 8 00:00:24,600 --> 00:00:26,279 Speaker 3: a ball in the truck and his cheek ten in 9 00:00:26,360 --> 00:00:27,400 Speaker 3: to ten what I got from. 10 00:00:27,240 --> 00:00:28,280 Speaker 4: The streets and cross. 11 00:00:29,720 --> 00:00:36,440 Speaker 2: More extension, more extension, yes, well, his instability. All right, 12 00:00:36,440 --> 00:00:36,839 Speaker 2: what's going on? 13 00:00:36,920 --> 00:00:37,080 Speaker 5: Guys? 14 00:00:37,159 --> 00:00:38,040 Speaker 2: Name is Phil de Rue. 15 00:00:38,120 --> 00:00:41,199 Speaker 3: We are here about to shoot room service diaries, and 16 00:00:41,280 --> 00:00:44,680 Speaker 3: I'm gonna go ahead and send Brian and Luke through. 17 00:00:44,560 --> 00:00:46,040 Speaker 2: A real strong training session. 18 00:00:46,280 --> 00:00:48,360 Speaker 3: I know Brian is a funny guy, so we're gonna 19 00:00:48,360 --> 00:00:49,879 Speaker 3: go ahead and see how funny he's gonna be when 20 00:00:49,880 --> 00:00:50,760 Speaker 3: he pushes his problem. 21 00:00:50,920 --> 00:00:52,760 Speaker 2: Maybe he will throw up, maybe he won't. We'll see 22 00:00:52,760 --> 00:00:53,160 Speaker 2: what happens. 23 00:00:53,200 --> 00:00:53,320 Speaker 6: Now. 24 00:00:53,400 --> 00:00:55,279 Speaker 3: Luke, on the other hand, I know he can push 25 00:00:55,360 --> 00:00:57,920 Speaker 3: them weight, so I'm gonna go ahead and see how 26 00:00:58,000 --> 00:00:59,840 Speaker 3: well he does in my territory. 27 00:01:19,680 --> 00:01:21,240 Speaker 1: Are you guys into asks too? 28 00:01:22,800 --> 00:01:22,840 Speaker 7: No? 29 00:01:23,720 --> 00:01:27,720 Speaker 1: Yeah, I knew, I knew I like this guy. Oh No, 30 00:01:29,520 --> 00:01:32,880 Speaker 1: I never had somebody show me their dads ask this excitedly. 31 00:01:33,160 --> 00:01:37,039 Speaker 6: Holy ships, Well, that's like the one on your head. 32 00:01:40,760 --> 00:01:43,800 Speaker 6: You know, we don't always talk to trainers on this show, 33 00:01:43,959 --> 00:01:46,760 Speaker 6: but when they're as esteemed and good and as well, 34 00:01:47,280 --> 00:01:51,440 Speaker 6: let's say accomplished, as our next badass too, we decided 35 00:01:51,480 --> 00:01:54,920 Speaker 6: to do it all the way from Deerfield Beach, Florida. 36 00:01:55,040 --> 00:01:57,320 Speaker 4: It is the Trainer to the Stars. It's Phil the Roue. 37 00:01:57,400 --> 00:01:59,040 Speaker 2: I Phil, thank you so much for having me. 38 00:01:59,360 --> 00:02:00,920 Speaker 4: Here's what I have to do this on camera. I 39 00:02:01,000 --> 00:02:04,080 Speaker 4: have to apologize to Phil. We were supposed to shoot 40 00:02:04,120 --> 00:02:08,200 Speaker 4: this two hours ago. I went to the wrong airport. 41 00:02:08,480 --> 00:02:10,680 Speaker 4: I am so sorry, Phil. I did this to everyone. 42 00:02:10,760 --> 00:02:11,360 Speaker 5: It's my vote. 43 00:02:11,520 --> 00:02:13,079 Speaker 2: That's what happens when you go to Florida, man, things 44 00:02:13,120 --> 00:02:14,040 Speaker 2: start to get crazy. 45 00:02:14,080 --> 00:02:15,880 Speaker 4: I don't think I'm the only person to do this, though, 46 00:02:15,919 --> 00:02:18,119 Speaker 4: I feel like it's happened before. To definitely happen. 47 00:02:18,200 --> 00:02:20,359 Speaker 3: And what I'm saying is the influx of people just 48 00:02:20,720 --> 00:02:23,000 Speaker 3: migrating over to Florida. So then you have the traffic 49 00:02:23,080 --> 00:02:25,160 Speaker 3: on top of that. So you're all good. You're a man, 50 00:02:25,240 --> 00:02:26,280 Speaker 3: so I'm I'm no problem. 51 00:02:26,600 --> 00:02:28,560 Speaker 1: In honor of Phil, I tried to dress like random 52 00:02:28,600 --> 00:02:31,040 Speaker 1: Florida man today for this. You know, I think I 53 00:02:31,280 --> 00:02:32,280 Speaker 1: think I pulled it off well. 54 00:02:32,600 --> 00:02:34,679 Speaker 6: So I think a lot of people don't necessarily know. 55 00:02:34,919 --> 00:02:36,359 Speaker 6: Some people know who you are, some people don't. Let's 56 00:02:36,400 --> 00:02:38,400 Speaker 6: let's sit the table for folks who don't. You are 57 00:02:38,720 --> 00:02:41,560 Speaker 6: a trainer to a lot of MMA stars, Dustin Poirier, 58 00:02:41,600 --> 00:02:43,000 Speaker 6: You've had a lot of guys that you're stable before 59 00:02:43,080 --> 00:02:44,000 Speaker 6: or Latsky. 60 00:02:44,120 --> 00:02:44,799 Speaker 4: Ben the other ones. 61 00:02:44,880 --> 00:02:46,400 Speaker 1: You want a champion, you want a champion. 62 00:02:46,520 --> 00:02:49,160 Speaker 4: What would you say that I describe yourself to the folks, 63 00:02:49,240 --> 00:02:51,080 Speaker 4: and well, how do you view yourself and what you. 64 00:02:51,160 --> 00:02:54,160 Speaker 3: Do a performance coach? You know, primarily I'm a teacher. 65 00:02:54,680 --> 00:02:57,440 Speaker 3: I work with several now at this point five thousand 66 00:02:57,520 --> 00:03:00,440 Speaker 3: coaches that I mentor around the world. So that's really 67 00:03:00,480 --> 00:03:03,919 Speaker 3: where I go now is more so coaching coaches. But 68 00:03:04,120 --> 00:03:05,959 Speaker 3: I still have my staple of fighters that I work with. 69 00:03:06,080 --> 00:03:09,120 Speaker 3: I've been doing that for fourteen years now. I've been 70 00:03:09,200 --> 00:03:13,120 Speaker 3: training and competing in martial arts for roughly eight or 71 00:03:13,240 --> 00:03:15,679 Speaker 3: nine years. I was a pro at one point with 72 00:03:15,800 --> 00:03:19,000 Speaker 3: Dean Thomas, so he started to be an old school Yeah. Yeah, 73 00:03:19,520 --> 00:03:21,560 Speaker 3: I was nineteen twenty years old after I got out 74 00:03:21,560 --> 00:03:23,240 Speaker 3: of college playing football, and. 75 00:03:23,760 --> 00:03:26,000 Speaker 1: He played at a historically black college. Yeah, we were wondering, 76 00:03:26,960 --> 00:03:29,200 Speaker 1: are you Mike Harry was a man. 77 00:03:30,400 --> 00:03:31,679 Speaker 2: That's funny, funny you said that. 78 00:03:31,800 --> 00:03:35,600 Speaker 3: But but so Mike actually was a part of Dean's 79 00:03:35,720 --> 00:03:37,800 Speaker 3: actually affiliate school, so we used to cross. 80 00:03:37,600 --> 00:03:39,440 Speaker 2: Train a lot. So I know Mike for all of my. 81 00:03:39,840 --> 00:03:42,160 Speaker 3: Yeah, he's a good dude. But yeah, you played at 82 00:03:42,600 --> 00:03:46,040 Speaker 3: state or defensive back. I played strong safety and then 83 00:03:46,240 --> 00:03:47,880 Speaker 3: you know, when I was in high school, played. 84 00:03:47,680 --> 00:03:49,600 Speaker 2: You know, middle linebacker here, so you were the hitter. 85 00:03:50,080 --> 00:03:52,720 Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean that was primarily why I stopped fighting, 86 00:03:52,800 --> 00:03:55,080 Speaker 3: because of the fact that the concussions just built up 87 00:03:55,120 --> 00:03:55,320 Speaker 3: on me. 88 00:03:55,440 --> 00:03:57,600 Speaker 4: All right, So let's let's rewind to say where'd you 89 00:03:57,680 --> 00:03:58,640 Speaker 4: grow up here? 90 00:03:58,760 --> 00:04:02,600 Speaker 3: There, Philby, Florida Brower primarily up and down Fort Lauderdale area. 91 00:04:02,680 --> 00:04:04,600 Speaker 3: But I decided to put the gym here because I 92 00:04:04,640 --> 00:04:06,280 Speaker 3: wanted to get back to the community. This is something 93 00:04:06,320 --> 00:04:08,560 Speaker 3: that I've always wanted to do at some point, and 94 00:04:09,040 --> 00:04:11,840 Speaker 3: the brand built enough to where now I can fully 95 00:04:11,920 --> 00:04:12,120 Speaker 3: do that. 96 00:04:12,240 --> 00:04:13,120 Speaker 2: Now I have my other gym. 97 00:04:13,480 --> 00:04:15,520 Speaker 3: I live about an hour and a half away, so 98 00:04:15,640 --> 00:04:17,720 Speaker 3: I have that gym up there, but I wanted to 99 00:04:17,760 --> 00:04:20,359 Speaker 3: make this spot special for the kids in the community, 100 00:04:20,560 --> 00:04:22,880 Speaker 3: give them somewhere that they can go that is positive, 101 00:04:23,080 --> 00:04:25,600 Speaker 3: because let's face it, we don't live in the greatest area, right, 102 00:04:25,720 --> 00:04:28,000 Speaker 3: So what I want to do is get back, give 103 00:04:28,040 --> 00:04:31,680 Speaker 3: them an opportunity to be around positive individuals. Not only 104 00:04:31,720 --> 00:04:33,600 Speaker 3: do we have fighters in here, professional athletes, but we 105 00:04:33,680 --> 00:04:35,960 Speaker 3: have celebrities too as well. You know, we have great 106 00:04:36,040 --> 00:04:38,360 Speaker 3: human beings just in general. So I wanted to give 107 00:04:38,400 --> 00:04:39,760 Speaker 3: them a spot to where they could come to. 108 00:04:39,880 --> 00:04:40,240 Speaker 2: To have that. 109 00:04:40,800 --> 00:04:42,680 Speaker 6: All right, So let's get back to Dean if we can. 110 00:04:42,880 --> 00:04:44,840 Speaker 6: So how did you win him over? Did you win 111 00:04:44,960 --> 00:04:48,160 Speaker 6: him over? Like the journey through MMA, because it wasn't 112 00:04:48,160 --> 00:04:50,320 Speaker 6: a long journey in MS. You've been in an MMA 113 00:04:50,480 --> 00:04:53,080 Speaker 6: sport in various roles, but as a fighter wasn't a 114 00:04:53,160 --> 00:04:53,920 Speaker 6: super long one. 115 00:04:54,040 --> 00:04:57,440 Speaker 3: No, No, eight years primarily like it seemed longer because 116 00:04:57,480 --> 00:04:58,920 Speaker 3: I was in it, you know, I was in it 117 00:04:59,120 --> 00:05:02,560 Speaker 3: for two three days through two three times a day, 118 00:05:03,080 --> 00:05:06,120 Speaker 3: for six seven days a week. And so with Dean, 119 00:05:06,200 --> 00:05:09,360 Speaker 3: I think it was more so he wanted to make 120 00:05:09,440 --> 00:05:11,840 Speaker 3: sure that I was really truly into it, you know, 121 00:05:11,960 --> 00:05:15,040 Speaker 3: because he started when it wasn't like the cool thing 122 00:05:15,120 --> 00:05:18,200 Speaker 3: to do, right, he was, you know, finding wrestlers in 123 00:05:18,279 --> 00:05:20,480 Speaker 3: high school. He was cutting their hair and you know, 124 00:05:20,640 --> 00:05:22,240 Speaker 3: bartering with them to teach him. 125 00:05:22,120 --> 00:05:24,320 Speaker 2: How to wrestle. You know, these are those times. 126 00:05:25,160 --> 00:05:27,800 Speaker 3: But now it's like everybody wanted to fight at that point, 127 00:05:27,880 --> 00:05:29,440 Speaker 3: you know, the ultimate fighter came out. 128 00:05:29,560 --> 00:05:31,359 Speaker 2: So he was really with all of us. 129 00:05:31,400 --> 00:05:35,640 Speaker 3: We had five guys, five professionals, amateur too professional that 130 00:05:35,800 --> 00:05:38,880 Speaker 3: he brought up with them, and so we would always 131 00:05:39,080 --> 00:05:41,920 Speaker 3: we were always looking to, you know, showcase ourselves and 132 00:05:42,120 --> 00:05:44,480 Speaker 3: make sure that we want him over per se. He 133 00:05:44,600 --> 00:05:47,000 Speaker 3: was one of those hard asses that, like, you know, 134 00:05:47,120 --> 00:05:49,520 Speaker 3: it was going to be a hard way to get 135 00:05:49,600 --> 00:05:51,480 Speaker 3: him to like really follow what we were doing, you know. 136 00:05:51,600 --> 00:05:54,360 Speaker 3: And I remember my first amateur fight. I won and 137 00:05:54,480 --> 00:05:56,080 Speaker 3: I called him. He wasn't even there. This was in 138 00:05:56,839 --> 00:06:00,920 Speaker 3: cut off, Louisiana. It's like population of thousand maybe, And 139 00:06:01,120 --> 00:06:01,480 Speaker 3: I won. 140 00:06:01,480 --> 00:06:03,719 Speaker 2: The fight and I called him and I'm like super excited. 141 00:06:03,839 --> 00:06:07,120 Speaker 2: I go, Dan, Man, I won did great. He's like cool, 142 00:06:07,120 --> 00:06:09,600 Speaker 2: when you coming back to the gym, didn't even I'm like, 143 00:06:09,800 --> 00:06:10,720 Speaker 2: he didn't say like good. 144 00:06:10,760 --> 00:06:12,040 Speaker 3: I don't think he said cool. I said when you're 145 00:06:12,040 --> 00:06:13,160 Speaker 3: coming back to the gym. I think that's the only 146 00:06:13,240 --> 00:06:16,040 Speaker 3: thing he said. And I go on Monday, I guess, 147 00:06:16,200 --> 00:06:18,400 Speaker 3: man like hung up and that was it, and that 148 00:06:18,600 --> 00:06:22,360 Speaker 3: was that's deem, you know. I think now he's stated 149 00:06:22,400 --> 00:06:25,960 Speaker 3: this recently that he's seen my progression. He's seen the 150 00:06:26,040 --> 00:06:28,840 Speaker 3: growth from when I was a young kid coming to him, 151 00:06:29,240 --> 00:06:30,680 Speaker 3: you know, rough around the edges to now. 152 00:06:31,320 --> 00:06:34,120 Speaker 2: So. And I remember the day that I talked to 153 00:06:34,200 --> 00:06:34,680 Speaker 2: him after I. 154 00:06:35,160 --> 00:06:38,320 Speaker 3: Actually retired based on what he told me, because I 155 00:06:38,360 --> 00:06:39,000 Speaker 3: would have kept. 156 00:06:38,960 --> 00:06:39,800 Speaker 2: Trying to go for it. 157 00:06:39,960 --> 00:06:43,120 Speaker 1: Did he give you like a robe in type speech too? 158 00:06:44,120 --> 00:06:45,080 Speaker 2: I think so? I think so. 159 00:06:45,279 --> 00:06:47,640 Speaker 3: It was primarily like, listen, if this was your your 160 00:06:47,720 --> 00:06:49,880 Speaker 3: knee or your elbow or your arm or something like, 161 00:06:49,920 --> 00:06:50,760 Speaker 3: you could work around it. 162 00:06:50,880 --> 00:06:53,120 Speaker 2: But it's your it's your brain. You can't really work 163 00:06:53,160 --> 00:06:53,560 Speaker 2: around that. 164 00:06:53,760 --> 00:06:56,680 Speaker 3: So, you know, after he told me that, that's when 165 00:06:56,720 --> 00:06:58,680 Speaker 3: I decided to just call it quits in a sense 166 00:06:58,760 --> 00:07:02,360 Speaker 3: and pivot, you know. But two years later, a year 167 00:07:02,400 --> 00:07:03,920 Speaker 3: and a half later, I wanted to get back into 168 00:07:03,960 --> 00:07:05,960 Speaker 3: the sport heavily, and so he was down at ATT 169 00:07:06,120 --> 00:07:09,240 Speaker 3: and I know he was coaching full time. Now he 170 00:07:09,279 --> 00:07:12,400 Speaker 3: had left the gym that I started with, and there 171 00:07:12,480 --> 00:07:15,520 Speaker 3: was really no other mma gym per se like that. 172 00:07:16,520 --> 00:07:18,160 Speaker 3: So when he went down I was like, all right, well, 173 00:07:18,160 --> 00:07:19,720 Speaker 3: I want to get back into sport, but I just 174 00:07:19,800 --> 00:07:22,520 Speaker 3: don't know. I want I want to, you know, try 175 00:07:22,560 --> 00:07:23,000 Speaker 3: to get there. 176 00:07:23,240 --> 00:07:23,840 Speaker 2: What can I do? 177 00:07:25,000 --> 00:07:27,800 Speaker 3: Or if you have any openings for somebody that you're 178 00:07:27,800 --> 00:07:29,600 Speaker 3: working with. Because I knew he's still working with Tyron. 179 00:07:30,000 --> 00:07:31,920 Speaker 3: I knew that he was down there, so like maybe 180 00:07:31,960 --> 00:07:33,720 Speaker 3: there's something there. And he's like, you know what, you 181 00:07:33,760 --> 00:07:36,200 Speaker 3: maybe in luck, come down, bring your resume, you know, 182 00:07:36,320 --> 00:07:38,520 Speaker 3: see what you can do. And so the first day 183 00:07:38,560 --> 00:07:41,400 Speaker 3: I trained King mo Oule of the Wall teacher Torres Dustin, 184 00:07:42,000 --> 00:07:44,520 Speaker 3: and Dia Davis. And that was the first day. So 185 00:07:44,600 --> 00:07:46,640 Speaker 3: I was like, okay, throw me to the wolves, I guess. 186 00:07:46,680 --> 00:07:49,160 Speaker 3: But at that time I had already developed a great 187 00:07:49,200 --> 00:07:51,800 Speaker 3: coaching skill. At that point, I've already built my gym up. 188 00:07:52,480 --> 00:07:54,480 Speaker 3: We were at that eleven thousand square feet, you know, 189 00:07:54,560 --> 00:07:56,800 Speaker 3: I've had like three hundred members, and I was like, 190 00:07:56,840 --> 00:07:58,320 Speaker 3: you know what, let's let's see what I can do. 191 00:07:58,360 --> 00:08:00,400 Speaker 3: Because I wanted to still work with fighters, still wanted 192 00:08:00,400 --> 00:08:02,440 Speaker 3: to work with those competitors, and I want to be 193 00:08:02,480 --> 00:08:03,160 Speaker 3: a part of it now. 194 00:08:03,200 --> 00:08:05,000 Speaker 2: I still wanted to be there at some capacity. 195 00:08:05,120 --> 00:08:07,880 Speaker 1: I got questions what type of fighter was filled the room. 196 00:08:08,560 --> 00:08:11,720 Speaker 2: I was an athlete, you know primarily, I mean you. 197 00:08:12,040 --> 00:08:13,160 Speaker 1: Had high school wrestling expert. 198 00:08:13,320 --> 00:08:15,080 Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, I wrestled. I think I think more so 199 00:08:15,200 --> 00:08:17,440 Speaker 3: I was I was. I was great at I was 200 00:08:17,640 --> 00:08:22,040 Speaker 3: more enticed with the stand up game. Primarily. I wanted 201 00:08:22,080 --> 00:08:23,400 Speaker 3: to stand up and fight and all that, but I 202 00:08:23,400 --> 00:08:25,160 Speaker 3: would just take it to where I knew that my 203 00:08:25,240 --> 00:08:25,920 Speaker 3: opponent didn't have. 204 00:08:26,480 --> 00:08:27,320 Speaker 2: And that was the main thing. 205 00:08:27,440 --> 00:08:29,360 Speaker 3: Was like I was looking to game plan, and so 206 00:08:29,480 --> 00:08:30,840 Speaker 3: that's when I found out that I would be a 207 00:08:30,880 --> 00:08:34,360 Speaker 3: better coach than National Fighters because the game plan, the strategy, 208 00:08:34,800 --> 00:08:37,480 Speaker 3: the tactics, you know, really resonated with me. 209 00:08:37,559 --> 00:08:41,640 Speaker 1: Did you have a shitty nickname? Please tell me that's 210 00:08:41,640 --> 00:08:42,000 Speaker 1: pretty good? 211 00:08:42,040 --> 00:08:42,440 Speaker 6: All right? 212 00:08:42,440 --> 00:08:44,439 Speaker 3: I mean that's very specific though you got to look 213 00:08:44,480 --> 00:08:46,640 Speaker 3: the part and that, and that primarily was from me 214 00:08:46,760 --> 00:08:48,600 Speaker 3: as a younger kid, because I was just hitting everything 215 00:08:48,679 --> 00:08:49,760 Speaker 3: when I was a kid. So I was like, oh, 216 00:08:50,080 --> 00:08:51,719 Speaker 3: that was the nickname y'all gave me. Okay, I'll just 217 00:08:51,760 --> 00:08:53,800 Speaker 3: take that then, you know. But it went through several 218 00:08:53,840 --> 00:08:55,120 Speaker 3: different phases, you know, when did. 219 00:08:55,040 --> 00:08:57,360 Speaker 6: It dawn on you? We were like, I'm actually a 220 00:08:57,360 --> 00:08:59,599 Speaker 6: pretty good coach, Like I could do something with this. 221 00:09:00,760 --> 00:09:01,800 Speaker 2: I knew I was a good trainer. 222 00:09:01,840 --> 00:09:04,079 Speaker 3: I knew I was a good motivator when I was 223 00:09:04,120 --> 00:09:08,480 Speaker 3: a kid, because I started really training people my friends 224 00:09:08,520 --> 00:09:11,480 Speaker 3: at like sixteen. You know, I would bring guys over 225 00:09:11,600 --> 00:09:13,640 Speaker 3: to the gym, or I would bring them to my 226 00:09:14,120 --> 00:09:18,679 Speaker 3: I had this makeshift bench that was like wobbly, but 227 00:09:19,080 --> 00:09:21,840 Speaker 3: I would put together programs, and I was reading Louis stuff, 228 00:09:21,880 --> 00:09:24,079 Speaker 3: and I was reading Joe DeFranco, and so I already 229 00:09:24,160 --> 00:09:26,959 Speaker 3: knew how to like properly program and periodize at a 230 00:09:27,080 --> 00:09:29,760 Speaker 3: young age. When I started to realize that I could 231 00:09:29,800 --> 00:09:31,400 Speaker 3: coach at a high level was when I got to 232 00:09:31,520 --> 00:09:33,319 Speaker 3: Top Team, because I knew that the methods and the 233 00:09:33,360 --> 00:09:35,440 Speaker 3: systems and the protocols that I was using was actually 234 00:09:35,520 --> 00:09:38,240 Speaker 3: working at a high level, and then I could relay 235 00:09:38,280 --> 00:09:41,240 Speaker 3: and communicate properly to these people that take it to 236 00:09:41,320 --> 00:09:41,920 Speaker 3: the next level. 237 00:09:41,960 --> 00:09:43,800 Speaker 2: On that way, then I was like, Okay, I got 238 00:09:43,840 --> 00:09:44,240 Speaker 2: something here. 239 00:09:45,520 --> 00:09:47,480 Speaker 1: I'm just excuse me. I'm the split between what you 240 00:09:47,600 --> 00:09:50,360 Speaker 1: actually do. Obviously, so much of it is scientific and 241 00:09:51,280 --> 00:09:54,480 Speaker 1: involves the body and nutrition and all that combining together. 242 00:09:55,040 --> 00:09:58,120 Speaker 1: But how important is the psychological side and the success 243 00:09:58,160 --> 00:09:59,640 Speaker 1: you've had do you think that that has allowed you 244 00:09:59,679 --> 00:10:01,559 Speaker 1: to kind of start to separate your name from the 245 00:10:01,640 --> 00:10:02,360 Speaker 1: others in this game. 246 00:10:02,520 --> 00:10:04,400 Speaker 3: It's very big in the fight game. It's very big, 247 00:10:04,480 --> 00:10:06,680 Speaker 3: and just sport in general. You know, that was something 248 00:10:06,760 --> 00:10:08,800 Speaker 3: that I needed to learn more of. I needed to 249 00:10:08,880 --> 00:10:12,240 Speaker 3: learn how to properly communicate and understand personality traits and 250 00:10:12,800 --> 00:10:14,120 Speaker 3: go to a point where. 251 00:10:13,960 --> 00:10:16,200 Speaker 2: I can test them and actually assess, you. 252 00:10:16,200 --> 00:10:18,000 Speaker 3: Know, who they are as an individual, so then I 253 00:10:18,080 --> 00:10:20,320 Speaker 3: can go ahead and relay over information that is going 254 00:10:20,360 --> 00:10:21,679 Speaker 3: to get us the adaptation necessary. 255 00:10:21,920 --> 00:10:23,760 Speaker 1: But sometimes you got to you gotta get another ass 256 00:10:23,800 --> 00:10:24,280 Speaker 1: so to speak. 257 00:10:24,400 --> 00:10:28,200 Speaker 2: Absolutely, here's the thing. It's funny. Some guys don't like that, right, So. 258 00:10:28,240 --> 00:10:29,439 Speaker 5: Something not everyone responds to. 259 00:10:29,920 --> 00:10:30,640 Speaker 2: Somebody don't like that. 260 00:10:30,720 --> 00:10:34,040 Speaker 3: And I thought that going into that situation because at 261 00:10:34,120 --> 00:10:36,079 Speaker 3: this point I was training high school kids and some 262 00:10:36,440 --> 00:10:38,679 Speaker 3: some general pop clients, and I had some college football 263 00:10:38,679 --> 00:10:42,120 Speaker 3: players that liked that style, right, King Olawall liked that style. 264 00:10:42,600 --> 00:10:46,240 Speaker 3: Dustin Poie did not like that style. So, like I remember, 265 00:10:46,280 --> 00:10:47,520 Speaker 3: I guess he told Diety, He's like. 266 00:10:47,520 --> 00:10:49,880 Speaker 2: Man, why this guy's young. At that I was like, oh, 267 00:10:49,960 --> 00:10:51,280 Speaker 2: this doesn't work for him. 268 00:10:51,480 --> 00:10:54,319 Speaker 3: You know, at certain times, you know, especially when you 269 00:10:54,400 --> 00:10:57,319 Speaker 3: develop a trust and a bond with that individual. Yeah, 270 00:10:57,360 --> 00:10:59,120 Speaker 3: you can do that, but you have to find pain points. 271 00:10:59,240 --> 00:11:01,199 Speaker 3: You have to peel back layers on their actual y 272 00:11:01,760 --> 00:11:04,160 Speaker 3: and then then you can relay over certain things and 273 00:11:04,280 --> 00:11:07,000 Speaker 3: say certain things to get them to be motivated. Because listen, 274 00:11:07,360 --> 00:11:08,839 Speaker 3: at the end of the day leaf fighters at the 275 00:11:08,920 --> 00:11:12,280 Speaker 3: UFC level, they are already self motivated. It's just getting 276 00:11:12,320 --> 00:11:14,400 Speaker 3: that one or two things out of them to really 277 00:11:14,440 --> 00:11:16,280 Speaker 3: figure out, Okay, I need to push it a little 278 00:11:16,320 --> 00:11:19,920 Speaker 3: bit more because in a controlled environment with prowlers and 279 00:11:20,280 --> 00:11:22,280 Speaker 3: squat racks and things like that, they're not used to that. 280 00:11:22,440 --> 00:11:25,880 Speaker 3: In all essence, like most of the fighters very new 281 00:11:25,920 --> 00:11:28,360 Speaker 3: to the weight room, So pushing them in this world 282 00:11:28,679 --> 00:11:31,080 Speaker 3: is a little bit different. Whereas that they know if 283 00:11:31,120 --> 00:11:33,680 Speaker 3: they don't push it in sparring, or they don't push 284 00:11:33,760 --> 00:11:35,880 Speaker 3: it in their drills, they may not make it out 285 00:11:35,880 --> 00:11:38,719 Speaker 3: of the cage alive. Right, So it's really different in 286 00:11:38,800 --> 00:11:41,800 Speaker 3: that in that perspective. So I have to give them 287 00:11:42,040 --> 00:11:44,839 Speaker 3: a reframing. I have to make them understand that what 288 00:11:44,960 --> 00:11:47,199 Speaker 3: we do in here will have some transfer over to 289 00:11:47,320 --> 00:11:48,160 Speaker 3: what they do over there. 290 00:11:48,800 --> 00:11:50,880 Speaker 2: And when that happens, then you get buy in. 291 00:11:51,760 --> 00:11:53,800 Speaker 5: When did you go independent? 292 00:11:54,800 --> 00:11:55,880 Speaker 2: I went independent? 293 00:11:56,040 --> 00:11:56,599 Speaker 4: Well, I would do. 294 00:11:56,720 --> 00:11:59,719 Speaker 3: I was always independent, but like you, fully independent, I guess. 295 00:12:00,600 --> 00:12:02,800 Speaker 3: So I started at twenty two, right. I opened up 296 00:12:02,800 --> 00:12:05,240 Speaker 3: my own gym twenty two years old. And then when 297 00:12:05,280 --> 00:12:06,800 Speaker 3: I went to Top Team, that was the first time 298 00:12:06,840 --> 00:12:08,400 Speaker 3: I ever actually got a paycheck. 299 00:12:09,160 --> 00:12:10,319 Speaker 2: I never really got a paja O. 300 00:12:10,440 --> 00:12:12,240 Speaker 3: So I was I was working on the team, and 301 00:12:12,800 --> 00:12:16,360 Speaker 3: I was there for four and a half years, building up, 302 00:12:16,920 --> 00:12:19,480 Speaker 3: you know, my base, and then understanding you know, how 303 00:12:19,559 --> 00:12:22,880 Speaker 3: to actually train these types of people at that level. 304 00:12:23,559 --> 00:12:25,800 Speaker 3: And then when I it was around actually in COVID, 305 00:12:26,000 --> 00:12:28,000 Speaker 3: I left that to twenty twenty. 306 00:12:28,120 --> 00:12:30,400 Speaker 5: Twenty, that's right. And then you've had this facility. How 307 00:12:30,480 --> 00:12:31,199 Speaker 5: long I had this? 308 00:12:31,360 --> 00:12:34,319 Speaker 2: Actually moved in here maybe four or five months ago. 309 00:12:34,440 --> 00:12:36,240 Speaker 5: Oh okay, so this is all relatively this is new. 310 00:12:36,360 --> 00:12:36,520 Speaker 2: Yeah. 311 00:12:36,640 --> 00:12:40,320 Speaker 3: And I had a gym in Boca Ratone with move 312 00:12:40,400 --> 00:12:43,040 Speaker 3: On for a little bit, and that was really my 313 00:12:43,480 --> 00:12:45,280 Speaker 3: way out, Like I got out of Top Team and 314 00:12:45,360 --> 00:12:48,600 Speaker 3: went over there primarily and just started working and building 315 00:12:48,679 --> 00:12:51,400 Speaker 3: up you know, more of a base of like overall clients. 316 00:12:51,440 --> 00:12:53,640 Speaker 3: So now I have boxers, Judoka's everybody. 317 00:12:54,160 --> 00:12:57,000 Speaker 1: So ovone was the ninety five al MVP wanted to 318 00:12:57,120 --> 00:12:57,679 Speaker 1: remind you of that. 319 00:12:57,800 --> 00:12:59,480 Speaker 5: Yeah. Thanks, I don't watch baseball, but I do know 320 00:12:59,520 --> 00:12:59,920 Speaker 5: who move on. 321 00:13:00,160 --> 00:13:01,360 Speaker 1: You were big into like athletes? 322 00:13:01,520 --> 00:13:04,040 Speaker 6: Yeah, I was an athlete, that's true. All right, So 323 00:13:04,120 --> 00:13:05,959 Speaker 6: let's talk abou Dustin Parry. How did you end up like? 324 00:13:06,120 --> 00:13:09,360 Speaker 6: It seems like of all the relationships you have. Maybe 325 00:13:09,360 --> 00:13:10,679 Speaker 6: I don't, I don't know this, but it just seems 326 00:13:10,679 --> 00:13:12,440 Speaker 6: from a fall anyway that that is one of your 327 00:13:12,480 --> 00:13:13,600 Speaker 6: closer ones for sure? 328 00:13:13,840 --> 00:13:16,079 Speaker 5: Is that a fair characterization? And so how to get here? 329 00:13:16,720 --> 00:13:16,840 Speaker 7: Uh? 330 00:13:17,000 --> 00:13:21,520 Speaker 3: Well, so I think that similar personalities similar backgrounds in 331 00:13:21,600 --> 00:13:24,079 Speaker 3: a way, backgrounds similar backgrounds. I fought a lot in 332 00:13:24,160 --> 00:13:26,960 Speaker 3: Louisiana actually too as well. I fought some of his teammates. 333 00:13:27,960 --> 00:13:30,480 Speaker 3: I remember, you know, he was in I think he 334 00:13:30,559 --> 00:13:32,000 Speaker 3: was in the crowd at one point in my pro 335 00:13:32,120 --> 00:13:34,280 Speaker 3: debut against Kurt Halliba. 336 00:13:34,400 --> 00:13:37,560 Speaker 6: Who fought in Belator or Strike Force I believe fought 337 00:13:37,559 --> 00:13:38,480 Speaker 6: in Strikeforce in the UK. 338 00:13:39,320 --> 00:13:40,520 Speaker 5: No, he definitely Strikeforce. 339 00:13:40,600 --> 00:13:43,000 Speaker 3: He fought in the UFC twice. Yeah yeah, yeah, so 340 00:13:43,120 --> 00:13:45,720 Speaker 3: I mean his big name or in that in Louisiana's name. 341 00:13:45,720 --> 00:13:47,840 Speaker 3: We were the main event too as well. My pro debut. 342 00:13:48,880 --> 00:13:51,120 Speaker 2: Yeah, that was crazy and I made two hundred dollars 343 00:13:51,160 --> 00:13:54,880 Speaker 2: by the way at least I made that and spent 344 00:13:54,960 --> 00:13:59,319 Speaker 2: that shit. So but yeah, I mean with that, it 345 00:13:59,440 --> 00:14:01,760 Speaker 2: was it was that kind of chemistry. You know. 346 00:14:02,360 --> 00:14:04,959 Speaker 3: I was there the first time I went there as 347 00:14:05,000 --> 00:14:07,240 Speaker 3: a coach. I used to train, used to cross train 348 00:14:07,400 --> 00:14:09,040 Speaker 3: as a as a fighter, but the first time I 349 00:14:09,080 --> 00:14:10,600 Speaker 3: went there as a coach, we sat and we talked 350 00:14:10,640 --> 00:14:12,599 Speaker 3: for at least an hour and a half, and I 351 00:14:12,679 --> 00:14:15,440 Speaker 3: remember him just being so welcoming and just the person 352 00:14:15,480 --> 00:14:16,120 Speaker 3: who he is, you know. 353 00:14:16,240 --> 00:14:17,679 Speaker 2: You know, he's a he's a stand up guy. 354 00:14:18,160 --> 00:14:19,000 Speaker 4: So I liked it. 355 00:14:19,560 --> 00:14:22,760 Speaker 1: And I say that very sparingly about fighters, Randy Coutura, 356 00:14:22,760 --> 00:14:25,320 Speaker 1: American hero Dustin poor American heroes. 357 00:14:25,800 --> 00:14:27,880 Speaker 3: Yeah, and he likes to say I'm a student of 358 00:14:27,920 --> 00:14:29,240 Speaker 3: the game, but he's a student of the game too 359 00:14:29,280 --> 00:14:31,440 Speaker 3: as well. Like he loves boxing, he loves jiu jitsu, 360 00:14:31,520 --> 00:14:33,600 Speaker 3: he loves it all. And I think that that was 361 00:14:33,640 --> 00:14:35,760 Speaker 3: something also that we bonded with. Like I wanted to 362 00:14:35,800 --> 00:14:37,200 Speaker 3: be the best at what I did for him, and 363 00:14:37,280 --> 00:14:38,520 Speaker 3: he wanted to be the best at what he did 364 00:14:38,560 --> 00:14:39,080 Speaker 3: for his family. 365 00:14:39,520 --> 00:14:41,320 Speaker 2: So that's that's where we grew. 366 00:14:41,400 --> 00:14:44,480 Speaker 3: And then I remember, you know, for the first year, 367 00:14:45,520 --> 00:14:47,920 Speaker 3: he's a person that keeps a circle close, right, So 368 00:14:48,000 --> 00:14:50,080 Speaker 3: I had to get into the circle before that happened. 369 00:14:50,600 --> 00:14:53,360 Speaker 3: And we didn't start working together for another year and 370 00:14:53,400 --> 00:14:56,000 Speaker 3: a half until he decided, you know, he's not a 371 00:14:56,040 --> 00:14:58,320 Speaker 3: big strength and conditioning guy, you know, he's not. He's 372 00:14:58,360 --> 00:15:00,400 Speaker 3: not somebody somebody that would just go in to the gym. 373 00:15:00,480 --> 00:15:01,960 Speaker 3: Now he does because he likes to look the part, 374 00:15:02,000 --> 00:15:03,480 Speaker 3: you know, he wants to build a little bit of muscle. 375 00:15:03,640 --> 00:15:05,760 Speaker 3: He's getting bigger now too as well. But when I 376 00:15:05,840 --> 00:15:08,440 Speaker 3: met him, he was still like at that forty five 377 00:15:08,720 --> 00:15:12,120 Speaker 3: one fifty five range, you know, and he just started 378 00:15:12,160 --> 00:15:14,760 Speaker 3: to grow, you know, and that's just maturity overall. 379 00:15:15,440 --> 00:15:16,400 Speaker 2: And that's where like I. 380 00:15:16,480 --> 00:15:18,320 Speaker 3: Really started to grow with him because I started to 381 00:15:18,400 --> 00:15:20,160 Speaker 3: understand him who he was as a person. One of 382 00:15:20,200 --> 00:15:24,360 Speaker 3: the first conversation we had was was really about road 383 00:15:24,440 --> 00:15:27,040 Speaker 3: work and how he loved to run. But you knew 384 00:15:27,280 --> 00:15:30,120 Speaker 3: before that he had a bad hip issue, right, So 385 00:15:30,200 --> 00:15:32,000 Speaker 3: he had a hip impingement and he had a constant 386 00:15:32,080 --> 00:15:34,640 Speaker 3: problems yep, very bad, and like at that point, he 387 00:15:34,800 --> 00:15:37,080 Speaker 3: was not saying anything. So I was like, you'd run 388 00:15:37,160 --> 00:15:40,800 Speaker 3: seven miles, but you'd being excruciating pain afterward, And I said, 389 00:15:41,000 --> 00:15:42,560 Speaker 3: why are we doing this. I was like, you can 390 00:15:42,600 --> 00:15:45,400 Speaker 3: do other things to increase your erbic capacity and he 391 00:15:45,520 --> 00:15:46,720 Speaker 3: was like, no, I just like to do it. And 392 00:15:46,840 --> 00:15:49,560 Speaker 3: I go, well, can we level Like can we figure 393 00:15:49,600 --> 00:15:52,000 Speaker 3: something else out? He's like, no, I'm not gonna know. 394 00:15:52,160 --> 00:15:52,640 Speaker 2: It's just him. 395 00:15:52,720 --> 00:15:53,600 Speaker 5: It's like working with Brian. 396 00:15:53,680 --> 00:15:55,040 Speaker 1: Really, if I tell you, he's like, I'm. 397 00:15:54,880 --> 00:15:57,920 Speaker 2: Not gonna do it. I mean. And I was like, okay, 398 00:15:58,240 --> 00:15:59,640 Speaker 2: so do me this favor. 399 00:16:00,240 --> 00:16:03,280 Speaker 3: When you run, run on a softer surface, or when 400 00:16:03,320 --> 00:16:07,000 Speaker 3: you do run, just manage your volume, you know, per se, 401 00:16:07,480 --> 00:16:08,640 Speaker 3: and so we leveled with that. 402 00:16:08,800 --> 00:16:10,000 Speaker 2: He was cool with that, all right. 403 00:16:10,080 --> 00:16:12,920 Speaker 1: The success not necessarily because of you, but you played 404 00:16:12,960 --> 00:16:15,080 Speaker 1: a big part in the larger Poria team. You come 405 00:16:15,120 --> 00:16:17,200 Speaker 1: to Dustin. I believe I was talking off camera right 406 00:16:17,240 --> 00:16:19,880 Speaker 1: after the loss to Michael Johnson, which kick started or 407 00:16:19,960 --> 00:16:24,440 Speaker 1: run for him? He's among the most battle tested when 408 00:16:24,440 --> 00:16:28,720 Speaker 1: you're talking about will chin durability. But you play a 409 00:16:28,760 --> 00:16:32,120 Speaker 1: part in building that up. So you know, what is 410 00:16:32,200 --> 00:16:34,120 Speaker 1: that strategy and focus? Because you get a guy like that, 411 00:16:34,240 --> 00:16:35,640 Speaker 1: he has to have the want and will and he does. 412 00:16:36,040 --> 00:16:37,840 Speaker 1: But he's built for twenty five minutes a hell. 413 00:16:38,000 --> 00:16:39,200 Speaker 6: So we should say, like, just for the record, for 414 00:16:39,200 --> 00:16:41,120 Speaker 6: folks who may not remember that fighter haven't seen it, 415 00:16:41,360 --> 00:16:44,080 Speaker 6: I would argue that's one of Dustin's worst losses in 416 00:16:44,200 --> 00:16:47,680 Speaker 6: the sense of relative to his ability. That was a 417 00:16:47,840 --> 00:16:51,800 Speaker 6: major underperformance. Definitely, since then he's kicked into higher oyously. 418 00:16:52,160 --> 00:16:53,920 Speaker 3: He definitely should have won that fight, and if that 419 00:16:54,080 --> 00:16:55,800 Speaker 3: ever got ran back, it would be different. 420 00:16:55,880 --> 00:16:57,080 Speaker 5: Oh, I picked him to win. I thought he was 421 00:16:57,080 --> 00:16:58,040 Speaker 5: gonna win that fight to. 422 00:16:58,040 --> 00:17:00,640 Speaker 2: Do absolutely absolutely. I think he's just grown. 423 00:17:01,400 --> 00:17:03,240 Speaker 3: I mean you've seen it from the first even from 424 00:17:03,280 --> 00:17:06,640 Speaker 3: the first the counterfight to the second counterfight. His mindset 425 00:17:06,840 --> 00:17:10,240 Speaker 3: is totally different and it doesn't allowed outside distractions to 426 00:17:10,320 --> 00:17:12,640 Speaker 3: come into his psyche and allow it, you know, allow 427 00:17:12,680 --> 00:17:14,119 Speaker 3: it to negatively. 428 00:17:13,720 --> 00:17:17,520 Speaker 2: Affect his performance. You know. So with that overall, I just. 429 00:17:17,560 --> 00:17:19,639 Speaker 3: Wanted him to feel comfortable, and I wanted him to 430 00:17:19,640 --> 00:17:21,159 Speaker 3: feel comfortable in the fact that he was going to 431 00:17:21,200 --> 00:17:23,520 Speaker 3: get better no matter what we did in here because 432 00:17:23,560 --> 00:17:25,159 Speaker 3: it was new to him, so he was going to 433 00:17:25,200 --> 00:17:27,760 Speaker 3: get an adaptation no matter what. I wanted to focus 434 00:17:27,840 --> 00:17:30,679 Speaker 3: on things that he wasn't doing inside of the skills training. 435 00:17:30,840 --> 00:17:33,399 Speaker 6: Why do fighters hate strengthen conditionally, I. 436 00:17:33,560 --> 00:17:37,720 Speaker 3: Think most of it is difficult. And then also for 437 00:17:37,840 --> 00:17:40,679 Speaker 3: the most part, they don't see the correlation, right. They 438 00:17:40,760 --> 00:17:44,440 Speaker 3: see it as another stressor as you know, more to 439 00:17:44,760 --> 00:17:47,200 Speaker 3: be tired from, and they have so many things that 440 00:17:47,240 --> 00:17:49,960 Speaker 3: they have to do. I understand that because again I thought, 441 00:17:50,000 --> 00:17:52,800 Speaker 3: and I know, you know, the day to day process, 442 00:17:53,520 --> 00:17:56,920 Speaker 3: but when you come in and it's directly correlated to 443 00:17:57,280 --> 00:18:01,800 Speaker 3: whatever their game plan is or whatever their structured dispositions 444 00:18:01,880 --> 00:18:04,600 Speaker 3: are right where they you know, they have some insufficiency, 445 00:18:04,680 --> 00:18:07,280 Speaker 3: some you know, some coordination issues, whatever the case. 446 00:18:07,480 --> 00:18:09,320 Speaker 2: If I can get that better. 447 00:18:09,480 --> 00:18:13,760 Speaker 3: And they see that generate more positive adaptation inside the 448 00:18:13,800 --> 00:18:16,800 Speaker 3: skills training, then they're more app to actually coming in 449 00:18:16,880 --> 00:18:17,560 Speaker 3: and doing the work. 450 00:18:17,720 --> 00:18:23,280 Speaker 5: But that takes like several camps. It trust, it takes time. 451 00:18:23,320 --> 00:18:25,080 Speaker 6: I mean, that's an investment quite literally, like you have 452 00:18:25,160 --> 00:18:26,720 Speaker 6: to put a dollar in the account like kind of 453 00:18:26,760 --> 00:18:27,120 Speaker 6: every day. 454 00:18:27,280 --> 00:18:30,119 Speaker 3: I mean, it really didn't in the case of dusting, 455 00:18:30,280 --> 00:18:33,119 Speaker 3: it didn't start into the second camp, where then we 456 00:18:33,200 --> 00:18:36,920 Speaker 3: started to implement certain things like cognitive conditioning and mobility 457 00:18:37,000 --> 00:18:38,680 Speaker 3: work and then he's like, I just want to blow 458 00:18:38,680 --> 00:18:40,040 Speaker 3: out my lungs today, and then we started to do 459 00:18:40,560 --> 00:18:42,919 Speaker 3: you know, things like that for him because he started 460 00:18:42,920 --> 00:18:45,760 Speaker 3: to trust the process. And that's the same with every fighter. 461 00:18:45,840 --> 00:18:48,040 Speaker 3: Primarily I had Kevin Lee here. Kevin Lee's never doing 462 00:18:48,080 --> 00:18:49,520 Speaker 3: any strength and conditioning. 463 00:18:49,359 --> 00:18:52,280 Speaker 2: That was structured. The first day I worked with. 464 00:18:52,440 --> 00:18:54,520 Speaker 6: I saw the video right, he was walking on his 465 00:18:54,640 --> 00:18:57,080 Speaker 6: heels and doing like warm ups from like the littlest 466 00:18:57,080 --> 00:18:58,520 Speaker 6: part of the muscle all the way to the big one. 467 00:18:59,119 --> 00:18:59,920 Speaker 1: Just future champion. 468 00:19:01,040 --> 00:19:01,640 Speaker 5: We have been. 469 00:19:02,119 --> 00:19:03,680 Speaker 6: You should know this about Kevin Lee and I or 470 00:19:04,160 --> 00:19:08,080 Speaker 6: we We were and have been big believers in Kevin truth, 471 00:19:08,160 --> 00:19:09,840 Speaker 6: and we get accused of being truthers because he has 472 00:19:09,920 --> 00:19:11,520 Speaker 6: fallen on hard times. Although he has returned to the 473 00:19:11,600 --> 00:19:13,119 Speaker 6: UFC and so we'll see what happens there. He's got 474 00:19:13,119 --> 00:19:14,960 Speaker 6: a new management and I know he converted to Islam 475 00:19:15,000 --> 00:19:16,400 Speaker 6: and stuff, so it seems like his life is an order. 476 00:19:16,400 --> 00:19:18,040 Speaker 1: But he may have been a staff infection away from 477 00:19:18,040 --> 00:19:18,840 Speaker 1: being the Interimp champion. 478 00:19:18,960 --> 00:19:21,240 Speaker 5: He's always been yoked like these dudes. 479 00:19:21,280 --> 00:19:22,600 Speaker 6: You know what it is. It's the dudes who are 480 00:19:22,760 --> 00:19:26,920 Speaker 6: naturally athletic, naturally strong, naturally fucking like that they don't 481 00:19:26,960 --> 00:19:29,639 Speaker 6: think twice about it. Whereas Dufus is like us with 482 00:19:29,800 --> 00:19:31,320 Speaker 6: every rep matters, you know what I mean? 483 00:19:31,400 --> 00:19:33,200 Speaker 3: True, Yeah, that's true, and I think that you know, 484 00:19:33,280 --> 00:19:35,960 Speaker 3: he took advantage of that and in some capacity. But 485 00:19:36,800 --> 00:19:38,320 Speaker 3: what I wanted to do is I wanted to show 486 00:19:38,400 --> 00:19:41,480 Speaker 3: him that there was there was some dysfunction there. He 487 00:19:41,680 --> 00:19:45,960 Speaker 3: tore his a cl again for this different one. He 488 00:19:46,080 --> 00:19:47,640 Speaker 3: tore both of them and then tore this one again 489 00:19:48,160 --> 00:19:52,280 Speaker 3: against Diego and an eagle right. And I saw the 490 00:19:52,400 --> 00:19:54,840 Speaker 3: video and I could see him he kind of like jolted. 491 00:19:54,920 --> 00:19:56,040 Speaker 2: He lost his move. 492 00:19:56,520 --> 00:19:59,400 Speaker 3: No, So then he came to me and he didn't 493 00:19:59,400 --> 00:20:01,760 Speaker 3: even know who I was, which is great. I was happy, 494 00:20:01,800 --> 00:20:03,240 Speaker 3: but that he knew like he knew of me, but 495 00:20:03,280 --> 00:20:04,840 Speaker 3: he didn't. He didn't follow me or anything like that. 496 00:20:05,320 --> 00:20:07,600 Speaker 3: So when he came into the gym, I was just 497 00:20:07,680 --> 00:20:09,159 Speaker 3: and he was going to Sanford, so it was right 498 00:20:09,200 --> 00:20:13,359 Speaker 3: across the street at that time. And I go, listen, 499 00:20:13,600 --> 00:20:16,840 Speaker 3: we're gonna develop more structure. We gotta get stronger in 500 00:20:17,240 --> 00:20:20,840 Speaker 3: the surrounding areas. We need to build strength of the 501 00:20:20,920 --> 00:20:22,879 Speaker 3: muscles that cross that joint. And you know I tore 502 00:20:22,960 --> 00:20:23,400 Speaker 3: my e cl. 503 00:20:24,480 --> 00:20:28,639 Speaker 6: I remember your rehab. You documented every every stage of that. 504 00:20:28,880 --> 00:20:31,159 Speaker 3: I wanted to so I could showcase, Okay, this can 505 00:20:31,240 --> 00:20:33,760 Speaker 3: be this can be dealt with. We can definitely come 506 00:20:33,800 --> 00:20:36,560 Speaker 3: back from it, and so I did it with him 507 00:20:36,920 --> 00:20:38,320 Speaker 3: and then he started. He was like, man, I've never 508 00:20:38,440 --> 00:20:40,520 Speaker 3: done anything like this, and that's good because now we 509 00:20:40,600 --> 00:20:43,720 Speaker 3: get a positive adaptation. So every day would come back 510 00:20:43,760 --> 00:20:45,320 Speaker 3: and come back, and he would come. You know, he'd 511 00:20:45,359 --> 00:20:47,239 Speaker 3: come three days, four days a week, and he's never 512 00:20:47,320 --> 00:20:50,239 Speaker 3: done any strength conditioning before this. I'm not gonna say 513 00:20:50,240 --> 00:20:51,560 Speaker 3: he's in no strength conditioning. 514 00:20:51,600 --> 00:20:53,719 Speaker 2: He just hasn't had it structured, right. 515 00:20:54,480 --> 00:20:56,639 Speaker 3: So yeah, he's been one guy and then another guy 516 00:20:56,680 --> 00:20:59,879 Speaker 3: that's fighting this weekend, Chase Sherman, who's been here consistently 517 00:21:00,119 --> 00:21:02,280 Speaker 3: putting in the work. But he's a guy that's very intuitive, 518 00:21:02,320 --> 00:21:04,640 Speaker 3: like he loves to know what's going on, and that's 519 00:21:04,680 --> 00:21:07,840 Speaker 3: where you find out who that person is. Like personality wise, 520 00:21:07,880 --> 00:21:10,840 Speaker 3: he's a peatylcholine dominant. He's like very conscientious of what 521 00:21:10,920 --> 00:21:12,399 Speaker 3: he wants to do and how he wants to do 522 00:21:12,520 --> 00:21:14,920 Speaker 3: it and why he's doing it. You have those types 523 00:21:14,920 --> 00:21:17,760 Speaker 3: of individuals, then you have those very A type dominant 524 00:21:17,800 --> 00:21:19,920 Speaker 3: people that are just like, I don't care, just tell 525 00:21:19,960 --> 00:21:21,200 Speaker 3: me what I gotta do and I'm just gonna go 526 00:21:21,320 --> 00:21:21,480 Speaker 3: do it. 527 00:21:21,680 --> 00:21:23,840 Speaker 1: Then where does you wanna champion fall into that mix? 528 00:21:23,960 --> 00:21:26,520 Speaker 1: You know, because we were allowed to have our favorite fighters. Luke, 529 00:21:26,560 --> 00:21:29,600 Speaker 1: want to stop talking about City kickboxers today. All right, 530 00:21:30,000 --> 00:21:31,600 Speaker 1: tell me about the dog that's inside you. 531 00:21:31,640 --> 00:21:34,520 Speaker 3: Wanna is like, it's a different it's a different animal. 532 00:21:34,720 --> 00:21:37,440 Speaker 3: Like I first trained her on a Sunday afternoon. It 533 00:21:37,520 --> 00:21:39,800 Speaker 3: was the first time that she started at Top Team. 534 00:21:40,080 --> 00:21:42,000 Speaker 3: And she called me up and she was a coach. 535 00:21:42,080 --> 00:21:43,760 Speaker 3: I want to I want to train can you do someday? 536 00:21:43,760 --> 00:21:45,800 Speaker 3: I'm like, absolutely, one of my favorite fighters. 537 00:21:45,880 --> 00:21:47,040 Speaker 2: I was like absolutely. 538 00:21:47,080 --> 00:21:48,520 Speaker 3: When she walked in the gym, I'm like, I gotta 539 00:21:48,560 --> 00:21:51,000 Speaker 3: train you because I knew she had that dog in it, 540 00:21:51,119 --> 00:21:51,760 Speaker 3: like I saw it. 541 00:21:52,359 --> 00:21:54,920 Speaker 2: And the first time I had to run the prowler. 542 00:21:55,200 --> 00:21:56,760 Speaker 2: You know, it's like an initiation phase. 543 00:21:58,040 --> 00:22:00,560 Speaker 5: The prowler is the slip push lead. 544 00:22:00,720 --> 00:22:00,879 Speaker 6: You know. 545 00:22:01,640 --> 00:22:04,040 Speaker 3: It even has a warning on there that you could 546 00:22:04,160 --> 00:22:06,879 Speaker 3: catch prowler flu, which basically means you might throw up, 547 00:22:07,359 --> 00:22:08,280 Speaker 3: you know, uncontrollably. 548 00:22:08,760 --> 00:22:10,639 Speaker 2: And and so I was like, all right, let's do that. 549 00:22:10,960 --> 00:22:12,879 Speaker 3: You know, primarily it was more so just for muscular 550 00:22:12,920 --> 00:22:14,680 Speaker 3: and endurance work and everything else to break it down. 551 00:22:14,760 --> 00:22:16,240 Speaker 3: But for the most part, I want to see where 552 00:22:16,320 --> 00:22:18,600 Speaker 3: she was at mentally, you know, and mentally and that 553 00:22:19,440 --> 00:22:21,919 Speaker 3: in that way where she couldn't take advantage, she couldn't 554 00:22:21,960 --> 00:22:25,080 Speaker 3: control the tempo. She couldn't you know, she couldn't pacete herself. 555 00:22:25,520 --> 00:22:27,440 Speaker 3: And that's another reason why they don't like it, because 556 00:22:27,440 --> 00:22:29,240 Speaker 3: I control the tempo, I control the pace. 557 00:22:29,840 --> 00:22:33,400 Speaker 2: So now it's gonna hurt no matter what. And they're 558 00:22:33,440 --> 00:22:34,400 Speaker 2: not really that great. 559 00:22:34,240 --> 00:22:36,639 Speaker 3: At that in a lot of ways, and nobody really is, 560 00:22:36,800 --> 00:22:39,760 Speaker 3: you know, everybody wants to to kind of get through it, 561 00:22:40,040 --> 00:22:43,280 Speaker 3: you know, and maybe sometimes it's not about getting through it. 562 00:22:43,320 --> 00:22:46,840 Speaker 3: Maybe it's sometimes it is about just testing yourself, right, 563 00:22:46,920 --> 00:22:48,320 Speaker 3: creating that mental fortitude. 564 00:22:48,440 --> 00:22:51,440 Speaker 6: So you talk about like personality and when people show 565 00:22:51,520 --> 00:22:53,520 Speaker 6: up and what they say and what they prefer. But like, 566 00:22:53,600 --> 00:22:56,560 Speaker 6: I've detected your personality from Afar. I mean I've known 567 00:22:56,600 --> 00:22:59,120 Speaker 6: you for some time, but even then I could tell 568 00:22:59,240 --> 00:23:00,240 Speaker 6: that they were a little bit differ. 569 00:23:00,320 --> 00:23:01,320 Speaker 5: So let me give you an example. 570 00:23:01,520 --> 00:23:06,200 Speaker 6: Like your methods are what I would call a mix 571 00:23:06,320 --> 00:23:11,200 Speaker 6: between old school wisdom and new school, like I don't know, 572 00:23:11,320 --> 00:23:14,480 Speaker 6: progressive ideas. It's this interesting mix between them. And I 573 00:23:14,800 --> 00:23:20,040 Speaker 6: think you get that way because you're constantly investing in yourself, 574 00:23:20,160 --> 00:23:22,840 Speaker 6: investing in your knowledge, investing in your like. 575 00:23:22,920 --> 00:23:23,800 Speaker 5: What do I need to know. 576 00:23:24,440 --> 00:23:28,000 Speaker 6: So when you were coaching, when did you realize, Okay, 577 00:23:28,080 --> 00:23:30,800 Speaker 6: here's what I know is true and also, shit, I 578 00:23:30,920 --> 00:23:32,879 Speaker 6: need to know more, and what did you do to 579 00:23:33,000 --> 00:23:33,879 Speaker 6: solve that problem? 580 00:23:35,640 --> 00:23:38,200 Speaker 3: I would reach out to as many people that I 581 00:23:38,359 --> 00:23:41,520 Speaker 3: respected as possible. I would look for mentors, you know. 582 00:23:41,760 --> 00:23:43,560 Speaker 3: I would reach out to Louis, I would reach out 583 00:23:43,560 --> 00:23:46,480 Speaker 3: to Joe DiFranco. How to reach out to anybody that 584 00:23:46,520 --> 00:23:48,120 Speaker 3: I knew that was doing it on a high level. 585 00:23:48,680 --> 00:23:51,840 Speaker 3: And then I would also heavy into the books, be 586 00:23:52,080 --> 00:23:54,879 Speaker 3: all into you know, super training, you know, science of 587 00:23:54,920 --> 00:23:57,359 Speaker 3: practice and strength training. Those are like my bibles in 588 00:23:57,440 --> 00:24:00,879 Speaker 3: a sense, right, my fitness and strength conditioning by and 589 00:24:01,000 --> 00:24:02,480 Speaker 3: so I would always do that. And then I have 590 00:24:02,560 --> 00:24:05,200 Speaker 3: a long drive, remember that, So I used that drive. 591 00:24:05,520 --> 00:24:07,520 Speaker 3: I took it, you know, took advantage of that drive. 592 00:24:08,040 --> 00:24:10,320 Speaker 3: So I called it like it's ninety five ninety five 593 00:24:10,560 --> 00:24:13,680 Speaker 3: ninety five university, you know. So it was, and it 594 00:24:13,840 --> 00:24:17,359 Speaker 3: was four years of that two three hours ship up up. 595 00:24:17,400 --> 00:24:19,280 Speaker 1: They don't use turn signals at that college at all. 596 00:24:21,040 --> 00:24:21,520 Speaker 5: Not over there. 597 00:24:21,600 --> 00:24:24,440 Speaker 2: No, no, no, no, we're running past things. Yeah yeah, 598 00:24:24,560 --> 00:24:25,960 Speaker 2: that's definitely so. Yeah. 599 00:24:25,960 --> 00:24:28,720 Speaker 3: I would just I would just spend time listening to podcasts, 600 00:24:28,840 --> 00:24:31,360 Speaker 3: audio books, everything that I knew I needed to learn. 601 00:24:31,440 --> 00:24:33,280 Speaker 5: I saw you at seminars a bunch too, right. 602 00:24:33,400 --> 00:24:35,359 Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, No as far as me going to it, 603 00:24:35,520 --> 00:24:38,359 Speaker 3: absolutely yeah, like seminars, workshops, anything I could get my 604 00:24:38,440 --> 00:24:41,240 Speaker 3: hands on, and going there was was really good because 605 00:24:41,240 --> 00:24:43,440 Speaker 3: I could network too as well, So you know f 606 00:24:43,560 --> 00:24:46,040 Speaker 3: r C and you know, even with the CPPs and 607 00:24:46,119 --> 00:24:49,840 Speaker 3: everything else and cfs C with with Mike Boyle stuff, 608 00:24:50,240 --> 00:24:53,920 Speaker 3: and I would find similarities, but I'll also find differences, 609 00:24:53,960 --> 00:24:56,080 Speaker 3: and I would pick the things that I knew that 610 00:24:56,119 --> 00:24:57,840 Speaker 3: were going to work for me and my circumstances. 611 00:24:58,280 --> 00:24:59,000 Speaker 2: Just roll with it, you know. 612 00:24:59,119 --> 00:25:00,840 Speaker 5: What's weird us all up to say? 613 00:25:00,960 --> 00:25:04,200 Speaker 6: Like you came up at a time when like strength 614 00:25:04,240 --> 00:25:06,080 Speaker 6: and Conditioning, we talked about MA being in the dark 615 00:25:06,119 --> 00:25:08,440 Speaker 6: ages and five and six, but due strength Conditioning was 616 00:25:08,520 --> 00:25:10,960 Speaker 6: even fucking worse. I'll never forget Due. This is a 617 00:25:11,040 --> 00:25:12,600 Speaker 6: true story. This is why I ask you about it. 618 00:25:12,960 --> 00:25:15,160 Speaker 6: I remember I one time went to go interview Brandon Vera. 619 00:25:15,240 --> 00:25:17,480 Speaker 6: This is before he went to Alliance. He was with 620 00:25:17,640 --> 00:25:19,320 Speaker 6: Lloyd Irvan at the time in Camp Springs, Maryland, just 621 00:25:19,359 --> 00:25:20,760 Speaker 6: outside d C. So I was like, bet, let's go 622 00:25:20,800 --> 00:25:23,560 Speaker 6: over there and I show up and he was very friendly. 623 00:25:23,600 --> 00:25:25,080 Speaker 6: It was he was doing like two or three days, 624 00:25:25,080 --> 00:25:26,760 Speaker 6: so this was the evening session. This was right before 625 00:25:26,800 --> 00:25:30,359 Speaker 6: the fight with Tim Sylvia, and I remember they were like, oh, 626 00:25:30,359 --> 00:25:32,359 Speaker 6: you should have seen the strength conditioning class this morning, 627 00:25:32,359 --> 00:25:33,760 Speaker 6: and I'm like, oh, yeah, what was it? Like they 628 00:25:33,800 --> 00:25:37,080 Speaker 6: had video of it. It was just Brandon Vera barfing 629 00:25:37,880 --> 00:25:40,960 Speaker 6: in between, like they'd be like exhaustion barfing and they'd 630 00:25:41,000 --> 00:25:42,920 Speaker 6: be like, okay, twenty five more laughs. 631 00:25:42,920 --> 00:25:45,159 Speaker 5: I'd be like, what the fuck is this? Right? 632 00:25:45,400 --> 00:25:47,760 Speaker 6: We have come a long way from that, it feels like, 633 00:25:47,840 --> 00:25:50,040 Speaker 6: and it feels like on the MMA side for me, 634 00:25:50,480 --> 00:25:52,040 Speaker 6: you were one of the first ones who was like 635 00:25:52,200 --> 00:25:54,760 Speaker 6: trying to be scientific with well, he still got the 636 00:25:54,800 --> 00:25:57,040 Speaker 6: sled flu, so he's got okay, okay, Well there's always 637 00:25:57,040 --> 00:25:58,680 Speaker 6: going to be a place for that and when you 638 00:25:58,760 --> 00:26:01,879 Speaker 6: push yourself to the limit. But they would seek that 639 00:26:02,000 --> 00:26:04,680 Speaker 6: out right, wrapt all the clown and CrossFit all that shit. 640 00:26:04,880 --> 00:26:06,480 Speaker 3: Well, here's the thing, and let me let me just 641 00:26:06,520 --> 00:26:09,520 Speaker 3: say this, like I would never really do that unless 642 00:26:09,680 --> 00:26:13,119 Speaker 3: it was for a specific reason, whether that be this 643 00:26:13,280 --> 00:26:16,440 Speaker 3: guy yeah or that yeah, right, or like I wanted 644 00:26:16,480 --> 00:26:18,800 Speaker 3: to see or I would test them. It's an assessment process. 645 00:26:19,000 --> 00:26:21,159 Speaker 3: So how much sprint work can we do in an 646 00:26:21,200 --> 00:26:23,240 Speaker 3: extending amount of time? How much can we recover from 647 00:26:23,359 --> 00:26:25,960 Speaker 3: within a certain amount of time. Because now I can 648 00:26:26,119 --> 00:26:29,159 Speaker 3: use field based activities as opposed to going to you know, 649 00:26:29,280 --> 00:26:31,639 Speaker 3: a UFCPI and any they weren't they weren't even around 650 00:26:31,640 --> 00:26:34,480 Speaker 3: at that time, or like another lab testing or veal 651 00:26:34,520 --> 00:26:36,520 Speaker 3: two MAX and LA take threshold. I can give this 652 00:26:37,320 --> 00:26:39,880 Speaker 3: a go and actually have that as a baseline assessment 653 00:26:39,960 --> 00:26:43,560 Speaker 3: and then re reassess them afterwards. So I would push 654 00:26:43,640 --> 00:26:46,359 Speaker 3: them right into the edge and then I pull them 655 00:26:46,400 --> 00:26:49,200 Speaker 3: back right and then I remember this was when I 656 00:26:49,320 --> 00:26:51,680 Speaker 3: was fighting too. It's like five by five minute rounds 657 00:26:51,840 --> 00:26:54,920 Speaker 3: circuit training, do it one minute each and go until 658 00:26:54,960 --> 00:26:57,440 Speaker 3: you die. And that was like the main thing, and 659 00:26:57,600 --> 00:27:00,280 Speaker 3: everybody did it, you know, and so I decided, Okay, 660 00:27:00,600 --> 00:27:02,320 Speaker 3: what are they not getting that? 661 00:27:02,720 --> 00:27:03,800 Speaker 2: What are they not getting. 662 00:27:03,960 --> 00:27:08,280 Speaker 3: Outside of the actual skills training. They're not getting maximal 663 00:27:08,359 --> 00:27:11,800 Speaker 3: power output. They're not increasing their explosive power as a 664 00:27:11,880 --> 00:27:14,800 Speaker 3: whole because they're not giving the adequate amount of rest periods, 665 00:27:15,160 --> 00:27:18,560 Speaker 3: and they're also not doing low intensity cardio. They may 666 00:27:18,600 --> 00:27:21,920 Speaker 3: be doing roadwork, but they're pushing into lactic zones because 667 00:27:21,960 --> 00:27:25,000 Speaker 3: they're competitive and they want to push themselves mentally. So 668 00:27:25,119 --> 00:27:26,280 Speaker 3: then I'm like, all right, we got to go from 669 00:27:26,320 --> 00:27:28,640 Speaker 3: a high low approach, So I gotta give I gotta 670 00:27:28,760 --> 00:27:30,560 Speaker 3: ramp up their a lactic system and I got to 671 00:27:30,640 --> 00:27:33,080 Speaker 3: ramp up their aerobic system. And that way I can 672 00:27:33,160 --> 00:27:35,600 Speaker 3: give these two systems here and bring them together when 673 00:27:35,600 --> 00:27:38,840 Speaker 3: they do their skills training, which is primarily somewhere in 674 00:27:38,880 --> 00:27:39,800 Speaker 3: that lactic zone. 675 00:27:39,840 --> 00:27:42,160 Speaker 6: He's an artist, This is what I'm saying, Like, I've 676 00:27:42,160 --> 00:27:44,399 Speaker 6: seen the development of all this. When did we cross paths? 677 00:27:44,720 --> 00:27:46,480 Speaker 6: When did I hit you up? Because I remember I 678 00:27:46,520 --> 00:27:48,119 Speaker 6: did a story on you for MMA Fighting. 679 00:27:48,240 --> 00:27:48,879 Speaker 2: I think that was it. 680 00:27:49,119 --> 00:27:50,240 Speaker 3: I think that was it, and then I seen you 681 00:27:50,280 --> 00:27:52,560 Speaker 3: in Dallas. Yes, and then that's when we talked. Yes, 682 00:27:52,800 --> 00:27:56,480 Speaker 3: And that was when Dustin got the ipoke from Eddie. 683 00:27:56,720 --> 00:27:59,199 Speaker 1: Yeah, that was that was two eleven. 684 00:27:59,480 --> 00:28:01,280 Speaker 5: Yeah, that's right, it was Stepe was on that car. 685 00:28:01,800 --> 00:28:03,240 Speaker 5: Joe was on that car. That's right. 686 00:28:03,359 --> 00:28:05,200 Speaker 2: Yeah, that was my first. That was my first. That 687 00:28:05,359 --> 00:28:08,720 Speaker 2: was my first UFC event that I went to. Actually, 688 00:28:08,880 --> 00:28:09,239 Speaker 2: is that right? 689 00:28:09,359 --> 00:28:11,159 Speaker 6: Well, the reason why I bring that up is because 690 00:28:11,240 --> 00:28:13,480 Speaker 6: I did a story on Phil for MMA fighting because 691 00:28:13,480 --> 00:28:15,040 Speaker 6: I was looking up coaches who were trying to do 692 00:28:15,119 --> 00:28:19,080 Speaker 6: different things, and you were the This is true. I'm 693 00:28:19,119 --> 00:28:20,639 Speaker 6: not saying you were the first guy to do this, 694 00:28:21,200 --> 00:28:23,439 Speaker 6: but you were the first guy that I saw making 695 00:28:23,560 --> 00:28:24,760 Speaker 6: guys do Zurcher. 696 00:28:24,520 --> 00:28:25,800 Speaker 5: Squads for takedown defense. 697 00:28:26,000 --> 00:28:26,440 Speaker 2: Yeah. Yeah. 698 00:28:26,560 --> 00:28:27,960 Speaker 6: And then I looked him up and I'm like, I 699 00:28:28,040 --> 00:28:30,520 Speaker 6: had seen he had done bodybuilding, he had fought MMA, 700 00:28:30,680 --> 00:28:36,040 Speaker 6: he'd been a football player at a collegiate level, and powerlifting, 701 00:28:36,080 --> 00:28:37,639 Speaker 6: and I had seen you power left and I was like, so, 702 00:28:37,800 --> 00:28:40,520 Speaker 6: this dude probably knows a ship ton, And sure enough, 703 00:28:40,600 --> 00:28:42,160 Speaker 6: the journey just kept going from there. 704 00:28:42,360 --> 00:28:42,560 Speaker 2: Yeah. 705 00:28:42,600 --> 00:28:45,680 Speaker 3: I mean, and then like I've always figured out what 706 00:28:45,920 --> 00:28:48,560 Speaker 3: was the weakest issue because I had so many to 707 00:28:48,680 --> 00:28:51,600 Speaker 3: work with, you know, so like he had like sixty 708 00:28:51,640 --> 00:28:54,440 Speaker 3: plus fighters at the high level company on a weekly basis, 709 00:28:54,680 --> 00:28:57,000 Speaker 3: So then I knew what I needed to do. And 710 00:28:57,080 --> 00:28:59,520 Speaker 3: then when I saw the I saw it like a 711 00:29:00,440 --> 00:29:03,360 Speaker 3: there was a general issue that was going on where 712 00:29:03,400 --> 00:29:06,680 Speaker 3: I was like, their mobility sucks, or their lack of 713 00:29:06,840 --> 00:29:10,240 Speaker 3: coordination in certain movements are not good because they're so specific. 714 00:29:10,880 --> 00:29:13,680 Speaker 3: So like even running was an issue, Like watching their 715 00:29:13,720 --> 00:29:16,240 Speaker 3: gate was a problem, and a lot of jiu jitsu 716 00:29:16,320 --> 00:29:19,080 Speaker 3: guys that come from that jiu jitsu background, like tight hips, 717 00:29:19,160 --> 00:29:21,120 Speaker 3: you know, tight up or back you know so or 718 00:29:21,200 --> 00:29:24,840 Speaker 3: tight low back in taiphotic posture, and that that'll affect 719 00:29:24,880 --> 00:29:26,920 Speaker 3: your movement, right, So I wanted them to be better 720 00:29:27,000 --> 00:29:29,120 Speaker 3: movers because I knew if they were better movers, they 721 00:29:29,160 --> 00:29:31,280 Speaker 3: could correlate that over in a skills perspective. 722 00:29:31,600 --> 00:29:36,960 Speaker 6: I remember, distinctly, distinctly, what year was this, twenty ten 723 00:29:37,160 --> 00:29:40,280 Speaker 6: something like that, Marcello Garcia doing an interview being like, yeah, 724 00:29:40,360 --> 00:29:41,440 Speaker 6: there was someone's like, what do you do for strength 725 00:29:41,480 --> 00:29:41,880 Speaker 6: and conditioning? 726 00:29:41,880 --> 00:29:43,840 Speaker 5: He goes more jiu jitsu, and. 727 00:29:43,880 --> 00:29:46,080 Speaker 6: I was like, well, if it works for Marcelo, that 728 00:29:46,160 --> 00:29:48,200 Speaker 6: must be great. And now I'm like, okay, maybe it 729 00:29:48,280 --> 00:29:50,040 Speaker 6: did work for I mean, Marcello had a great career, 730 00:29:50,120 --> 00:29:52,400 Speaker 6: but like, it's fucking insane that people kind of think 731 00:29:52,440 --> 00:29:53,280 Speaker 6: that shit, it's crazy. 732 00:29:53,600 --> 00:29:56,160 Speaker 3: I mean I had a conversation with Andre Durell and 733 00:29:56,240 --> 00:29:58,360 Speaker 3: it was actually one of the most viral videos I have. 734 00:29:58,480 --> 00:29:58,920 Speaker 5: I've seen it. 735 00:29:59,040 --> 00:30:02,120 Speaker 6: Yeah, we talked about value of like why weightlifting for punching, 736 00:30:02,320 --> 00:30:04,000 Speaker 6: sorry for boxing in. 737 00:30:04,000 --> 00:30:08,239 Speaker 3: General, called this come back when Yeah, I was amazing, man, 738 00:30:08,280 --> 00:30:10,640 Speaker 3: I was he was dope. I was so excited for him, 739 00:30:10,680 --> 00:30:12,560 Speaker 3: and he's a guy that really put in the work. 740 00:30:12,600 --> 00:30:14,920 Speaker 3: And then like is a student. He wanted to learn 741 00:30:15,000 --> 00:30:15,560 Speaker 3: what was going on. 742 00:30:15,640 --> 00:30:16,800 Speaker 5: He was grateful to be here too. 743 00:30:17,200 --> 00:30:19,680 Speaker 6: I hasn't lost that super great like, this is another 744 00:30:19,760 --> 00:30:20,440 Speaker 6: great opportunity. 745 00:30:20,680 --> 00:30:22,640 Speaker 2: He called me like he was like a fan. I 746 00:30:22,760 --> 00:30:24,280 Speaker 2: was like, bro, I'm a fan, Like what are we doing? 747 00:30:24,440 --> 00:30:24,480 Speaker 5: Like? 748 00:30:24,680 --> 00:30:27,360 Speaker 3: So I was more so just just happy to help 749 00:30:27,440 --> 00:30:29,200 Speaker 3: him in that in that in that way, So I 750 00:30:29,280 --> 00:30:31,160 Speaker 3: wanted to make sure that he had he had all 751 00:30:31,240 --> 00:30:32,120 Speaker 3: the tools necessary. 752 00:30:32,240 --> 00:30:34,640 Speaker 2: So when he asked me that, yeah this is brour. 753 00:30:34,360 --> 00:30:37,240 Speaker 6: Bro, there's that there's someone yelling aggressive. 754 00:30:39,600 --> 00:30:41,640 Speaker 3: You missed the guy you know, saying what's up to 755 00:30:42,000 --> 00:30:44,640 Speaker 3: us in the window by the way, just recently, but 756 00:30:45,160 --> 00:30:48,840 Speaker 3: they always say what's up? No, So like I just 757 00:30:49,000 --> 00:30:52,320 Speaker 3: basically said, like, as far as strength training goes, right, 758 00:30:52,440 --> 00:30:55,760 Speaker 3: to build strength, to build armor, right, you need to 759 00:30:55,840 --> 00:30:57,200 Speaker 3: do that, and you need to build it from a 760 00:30:57,240 --> 00:31:00,440 Speaker 3: general perspective that can enhance the specific skills that you 761 00:31:00,520 --> 00:31:03,680 Speaker 3: already have attained over the years, especially at his level. Right, 762 00:31:03,760 --> 00:31:06,800 Speaker 3: he's been boxing for I think he said like twenty years. 763 00:31:06,760 --> 00:31:07,320 Speaker 2: Or something like that. 764 00:31:07,520 --> 00:31:09,440 Speaker 1: Stupid, So I was like, oh four Olympia. 765 00:31:09,560 --> 00:31:13,040 Speaker 2: Yea, yeah, you don't Jesus four four. He's thirty eight 766 00:31:13,160 --> 00:31:14,400 Speaker 2: years old. Yah, you know what I'm saying. 767 00:31:14,400 --> 00:31:16,720 Speaker 3: And then you talk about Okay, he's also boxing since 768 00:31:16,800 --> 00:31:19,440 Speaker 3: he was a kid, So you know, I wanted to 769 00:31:19,520 --> 00:31:21,479 Speaker 3: make sure that we were giving him the tools right 770 00:31:21,600 --> 00:31:24,920 Speaker 3: from a from a physicality perspective, and then on top 771 00:31:24,960 --> 00:31:26,920 Speaker 3: of that, what does that do from a mental perspective? 772 00:31:27,240 --> 00:31:30,040 Speaker 3: It gives you confidence because now I'm more physically stronger. 773 00:31:30,520 --> 00:31:31,760 Speaker 3: So then when I go on the mats, or I 774 00:31:31,800 --> 00:31:33,040 Speaker 3: go in the cage, or I go in the ring, 775 00:31:33,600 --> 00:31:36,240 Speaker 3: I know that I have the skills because I do 776 00:31:36,360 --> 00:31:39,320 Speaker 3: that every day. And now I have the physical capabilities 777 00:31:39,560 --> 00:31:42,800 Speaker 3: to withstand blows like forces that have come upon me 778 00:31:43,080 --> 00:31:44,520 Speaker 3: and the force that I can produce out. 779 00:31:45,160 --> 00:31:46,880 Speaker 1: All right, if you can give me a when you're 780 00:31:46,920 --> 00:31:49,560 Speaker 1: behind the scenes, you get invested. You're a teacher, your coach, 781 00:31:49,680 --> 00:31:52,240 Speaker 1: all that has there been a high profile victory that 782 00:31:52,320 --> 00:31:55,440 Speaker 1: you worked on that year, Like I know, I know 783 00:31:55,840 --> 00:31:57,600 Speaker 1: what was put in that camp. I was a part 784 00:31:57,640 --> 00:32:00,360 Speaker 1: of it, and you retain that pride for your student 785 00:32:01,080 --> 00:32:02,120 Speaker 1: is the one that stands up. 786 00:32:02,520 --> 00:32:06,160 Speaker 3: Dustin Poorrie went in the interim world title against Max Holloway. 787 00:32:06,160 --> 00:32:09,520 Speaker 5: If you were there that night that night, No, I wasn't. 788 00:32:09,720 --> 00:32:12,000 Speaker 3: I was at home because I think we had another 789 00:32:12,440 --> 00:32:14,720 Speaker 3: another fighter fighting on the weekend after so I had 790 00:32:14,760 --> 00:32:18,120 Speaker 3: to stay back and I jumped up like I was there, 791 00:32:18,160 --> 00:32:20,240 Speaker 3: and I think I woke up everybody in my household, 792 00:32:20,760 --> 00:32:22,920 Speaker 3: like I lost my voice everything, because I knew that 793 00:32:23,120 --> 00:32:25,840 Speaker 3: this was something that was really something he wanted to 794 00:32:25,880 --> 00:32:26,840 Speaker 3: do and wanted to achieve. 795 00:32:26,960 --> 00:32:27,680 Speaker 2: And it was great. 796 00:32:27,800 --> 00:32:28,720 Speaker 5: That was a tough fart too. 797 00:32:28,960 --> 00:32:30,960 Speaker 2: It was man, and it was it was. 798 00:32:31,200 --> 00:32:36,080 Speaker 3: Entertaining, but like I never really got uncomfortable watching him fight. 799 00:32:36,840 --> 00:32:39,440 Speaker 3: And that's weird because you know, as as a coach, 800 00:32:39,760 --> 00:32:41,400 Speaker 3: I'm always like I don't know, you know what I mean, 801 00:32:41,480 --> 00:32:43,440 Speaker 3: Like I know that they can do it, but you're 802 00:32:43,480 --> 00:32:46,360 Speaker 3: not in there with them. This fight particularly, I was like, 803 00:32:46,640 --> 00:32:49,240 Speaker 3: he's got it. He's like he's got it, and you know, 804 00:32:49,280 --> 00:32:52,640 Speaker 3: obviously other fights, bigger fights. In that way, I was 805 00:32:52,720 --> 00:32:54,480 Speaker 3: kind of like, damn, this is a tough one, but 806 00:32:54,840 --> 00:32:56,320 Speaker 3: you know, I got all faith in my'm man. But 807 00:32:56,400 --> 00:32:58,360 Speaker 3: at the end of the day, this one, I was like, 808 00:32:58,440 --> 00:32:59,440 Speaker 3: he's got it for sure. 809 00:32:59,320 --> 00:33:01,760 Speaker 1: All right, look at him this you know, we use 810 00:33:01,800 --> 00:33:04,360 Speaker 1: that term a lot that you invented U bl upper 811 00:33:04,400 --> 00:33:06,959 Speaker 1: bound limits. Looking at Phill the rue in relation to us, 812 00:33:07,480 --> 00:33:09,200 Speaker 1: we see, even though it's ten years, they look. 813 00:33:09,040 --> 00:33:09,720 Speaker 5: Like different species. 814 00:33:09,800 --> 00:33:12,239 Speaker 1: Some of the upper bound limits. If we either if 815 00:33:12,240 --> 00:33:13,960 Speaker 1: I could get going on a twenty thirteen feet or 816 00:33:14,000 --> 00:33:16,440 Speaker 1: plan like a right. But here's the point, when you 817 00:33:16,520 --> 00:33:20,960 Speaker 1: look at his beard, that's also what you could be 818 00:33:21,040 --> 00:33:23,080 Speaker 1: if you took a little bit more attention. You died 819 00:33:23,120 --> 00:33:25,120 Speaker 1: and you grew it out. You quafted how much maintenance 820 00:33:25,240 --> 00:33:27,160 Speaker 1: is involved that because it's fantastic. 821 00:33:26,840 --> 00:33:29,520 Speaker 2: On the beard. I've always had a beard, man, I've 822 00:33:29,560 --> 00:33:30,040 Speaker 2: always had it. 823 00:33:30,480 --> 00:33:33,080 Speaker 3: I think, you know, you have to thicker over the years, though, Yeah, 824 00:33:33,320 --> 00:33:35,400 Speaker 3: I think, well I took I understand I take care 825 00:33:35,440 --> 00:33:35,800 Speaker 3: of it more. 826 00:33:35,960 --> 00:33:36,880 Speaker 2: You know, you condition it. 827 00:33:37,520 --> 00:33:39,400 Speaker 6: Kimbo always said you take care of your beard. Your 828 00:33:39,400 --> 00:33:40,160 Speaker 6: beard takes care of you. 829 00:33:40,320 --> 00:33:43,640 Speaker 2: Absolutely. I know what he was referred to. 830 00:33:43,800 --> 00:33:44,000 Speaker 1: I do. 831 00:33:44,240 --> 00:33:44,440 Speaker 5: Yeah. 832 00:33:44,600 --> 00:33:45,320 Speaker 1: I may never heard people. 833 00:33:45,600 --> 00:33:48,200 Speaker 5: He may have been a bodyguard on porn side. I 834 00:33:48,200 --> 00:33:48,480 Speaker 5: don't know. 835 00:33:48,800 --> 00:33:51,320 Speaker 2: I'm just saying that guy. Yeah, no, man shout out 836 00:33:51,320 --> 00:33:51,760 Speaker 2: to Kimball. 837 00:33:51,880 --> 00:33:53,520 Speaker 1: Well we can be impressed with coach here. 838 00:33:53,680 --> 00:33:55,520 Speaker 6: But I do have one more on the serious angle. 839 00:33:55,600 --> 00:33:58,000 Speaker 6: If I may, I don't do serious, Okay, go ahead, 840 00:33:58,400 --> 00:33:58,920 Speaker 6: if I may. 841 00:33:58,880 --> 00:34:00,840 Speaker 5: If I may, I'm going to ask it this way. 842 00:34:00,840 --> 00:34:04,480 Speaker 6: I'm not going to ask how much could strengthen conditioning 843 00:34:04,800 --> 00:34:07,600 Speaker 6: prevent injuries among MME fighters. But what I will ask 844 00:34:07,800 --> 00:34:11,200 Speaker 6: is what role can it play? What role can it do? 845 00:34:11,360 --> 00:34:14,200 Speaker 6: Because it seems like your guys once they're in that 846 00:34:14,360 --> 00:34:17,440 Speaker 6: program for a while, they just in the fights, they're 847 00:34:17,520 --> 00:34:19,440 Speaker 6: rough and tumble, but they can seem to always be 848 00:34:19,440 --> 00:34:21,040 Speaker 6: able to make it without too much issue. 849 00:34:21,680 --> 00:34:24,000 Speaker 3: I mean, it's reducing the risk of non contact injuries. 850 00:34:24,200 --> 00:34:26,320 Speaker 3: You know, you can't obviously, you know somebody you know 851 00:34:26,480 --> 00:34:29,239 Speaker 3: kicks a knee or something like that, you can't do much. 852 00:34:29,360 --> 00:34:31,759 Speaker 3: But when it comes to non contact injuries, we want 853 00:34:31,800 --> 00:34:34,520 Speaker 3: to negate that totally right, especially in camp when things 854 00:34:34,560 --> 00:34:39,320 Speaker 3: get rougher, you know, intensities go up, reducing of calorie 855 00:34:39,360 --> 00:34:41,319 Speaker 3: and take you know, all those things come into play. 856 00:34:41,680 --> 00:34:43,279 Speaker 3: We like to make sure that we get a full 857 00:34:43,320 --> 00:34:45,440 Speaker 3: on assessment. In the beginning. I want to see bone 858 00:34:45,480 --> 00:34:47,480 Speaker 3: mineral density. I want to see, you know, how how 859 00:34:47,560 --> 00:34:50,000 Speaker 3: low are they in body fat percentage at that particular time, 860 00:34:50,040 --> 00:34:52,319 Speaker 3: like usually around eight to nine weeks and that's when 861 00:34:52,320 --> 00:34:53,799 Speaker 3: I'll go and take them to the lab and get 862 00:34:53,800 --> 00:34:56,160 Speaker 3: a DEXA scan done, because that's pretty much the gold standard, 863 00:34:56,840 --> 00:34:58,719 Speaker 3: and I'll measure all that out and then we'll get 864 00:34:58,760 --> 00:35:01,239 Speaker 3: dietary needs based upon that. If I have my if 865 00:35:01,280 --> 00:35:03,800 Speaker 3: I had my full go like, if I had full control, 866 00:35:03,880 --> 00:35:06,719 Speaker 3: that's what I would do. And then from there, you know, 867 00:35:06,800 --> 00:35:09,640 Speaker 3: it's figuring out what's their compensation patterns, where where are 868 00:35:09,640 --> 00:35:12,759 Speaker 3: they deficient, at where their asymmetries, and you'll find that, 869 00:35:12,920 --> 00:35:15,600 Speaker 3: you know, if somebody's just too much on one side 870 00:35:15,600 --> 00:35:19,520 Speaker 3: of the body, or isn't really rotating appropriately, or you know, 871 00:35:19,680 --> 00:35:22,800 Speaker 3: has compensation patterns inside of a joint and doesn't have 872 00:35:22,840 --> 00:35:25,719 Speaker 3: the capacity to do things. We want to gain more capacity, 873 00:35:25,760 --> 00:35:27,640 Speaker 3: we want to gain more control, we want to build 874 00:35:27,719 --> 00:35:30,359 Speaker 3: more base and that's how you can reduce the risk 875 00:35:30,440 --> 00:35:31,840 Speaker 3: of that non contact injury. 876 00:35:32,440 --> 00:35:35,200 Speaker 1: Doctor Bambam could fix my liver in probably like three weeks, all. 877 00:35:35,200 --> 00:35:37,240 Speaker 6: Right, I need him to fix my shoulder. And also 878 00:35:37,520 --> 00:35:39,560 Speaker 6: the way I look, I need Look. 879 00:35:39,640 --> 00:35:42,400 Speaker 1: You can't see a man this tatted up without talking 880 00:35:42,400 --> 00:35:44,319 Speaker 1: about it. And this and I don't know a ton 881 00:35:44,360 --> 00:35:46,279 Speaker 1: about the you know the history of it like you do, 882 00:35:46,400 --> 00:35:47,239 Speaker 1: But that's impressing me. 883 00:35:47,400 --> 00:35:49,319 Speaker 5: You've paid some money for these. Yeah. 884 00:35:49,360 --> 00:35:51,120 Speaker 2: Yeah, and I got more since we talked. 885 00:35:51,160 --> 00:35:52,520 Speaker 5: Man, you got you got a guy you go. 886 00:35:52,600 --> 00:35:55,320 Speaker 3: To Yeah, he's actually in Pompao. I went to high school. Actually, 887 00:35:55,400 --> 00:35:56,759 Speaker 3: I played little league football with him. 888 00:35:56,880 --> 00:35:57,040 Speaker 5: Yeah. 889 00:35:57,120 --> 00:35:59,160 Speaker 3: So he's gotten, he's done all my stuff and we're 890 00:35:59,160 --> 00:36:01,879 Speaker 3: still going going on way up. As you've seen my guy, 891 00:36:02,000 --> 00:36:04,040 Speaker 3: Jake Bosswick. I got to try to catch up to him. 892 00:36:04,080 --> 00:36:04,279 Speaker 5: Yeah. 893 00:36:04,280 --> 00:36:05,799 Speaker 6: I mean that's not a job you can I mean, 894 00:36:05,960 --> 00:36:08,840 Speaker 6: I mean, like if someone asked him, what do you 895 00:36:08,880 --> 00:36:10,560 Speaker 6: do for a living? Oh, I fight bare knuckle right. 896 00:36:11,000 --> 00:36:13,520 Speaker 6: It works out, but you would never be like attorney, 897 00:36:13,880 --> 00:36:16,320 Speaker 6: you know, accountants point. 898 00:36:16,480 --> 00:36:17,960 Speaker 1: Carnival rides on the weekends. 899 00:36:18,239 --> 00:36:21,160 Speaker 5: He's too big and strong for that. Very friendly too, 900 00:36:21,200 --> 00:36:23,000 Speaker 5: by the way, he's a nice guy. 901 00:36:23,120 --> 00:36:24,720 Speaker 2: He's a nice guy, super charismatic. 902 00:36:24,800 --> 00:36:26,200 Speaker 5: So you got into this whole bit where like you're 903 00:36:26,239 --> 00:36:27,000 Speaker 5: coaching coaches. 904 00:36:27,040 --> 00:36:27,960 Speaker 6: What does that mean? 905 00:36:28,239 --> 00:36:31,200 Speaker 3: Yeah, So the coaches that the trainers that work with fighters, 906 00:36:31,320 --> 00:36:33,640 Speaker 3: or work with athletes or just general pop clients that 907 00:36:34,000 --> 00:36:35,640 Speaker 3: want to learn some of the methods that I've been 908 00:36:35,680 --> 00:36:36,960 Speaker 3: able to put together. 909 00:36:37,160 --> 00:36:37,719 Speaker 2: I coach them. 910 00:36:37,880 --> 00:36:40,440 Speaker 3: So now I put together a mentorship program and I 911 00:36:40,480 --> 00:36:43,200 Speaker 3: can coach any trainer from around the world. So we 912 00:36:43,320 --> 00:36:46,680 Speaker 3: have over five thousand coaches in the mentorship program from 913 00:36:46,680 --> 00:36:50,120 Speaker 3: anywhere from like you know, Italy to Australia to the 914 00:36:50,239 --> 00:36:53,239 Speaker 3: US to Canada. And the great thing there is that 915 00:36:53,560 --> 00:36:55,719 Speaker 3: not only am I able to help them, but I'm 916 00:36:55,800 --> 00:36:58,560 Speaker 3: helping them help all the other athletes that they work with. 917 00:36:59,120 --> 00:37:01,640 Speaker 3: So now I can spread out my methods. I can 918 00:37:01,680 --> 00:37:03,799 Speaker 3: spread out the service that I've been able to give 919 00:37:03,880 --> 00:37:05,759 Speaker 3: to the people that work with me directly, and I 920 00:37:05,800 --> 00:37:07,239 Speaker 3: could do that in a wider range. 921 00:37:07,280 --> 00:37:09,759 Speaker 6: Are these coaches like specific to combat sports or they 922 00:37:09,880 --> 00:37:11,040 Speaker 6: tend to be whatever? 923 00:37:11,239 --> 00:37:11,439 Speaker 2: Yeah? 924 00:37:11,520 --> 00:37:14,279 Speaker 3: Anything, really if you're if you love the methods, if 925 00:37:14,320 --> 00:37:16,480 Speaker 3: you love the systems that I use, and the systems 926 00:37:16,480 --> 00:37:18,960 Speaker 3: can be spread around any area. I still use candense 927 00:37:19,000 --> 00:37:21,960 Speaker 3: conjugate from my from my general pop clients because it 928 00:37:22,080 --> 00:37:24,880 Speaker 3: is versatile. It's just a skeleton system and then from 929 00:37:24,920 --> 00:37:26,600 Speaker 3: there you plug and paste and I give them certain 930 00:37:26,640 --> 00:37:31,279 Speaker 3: protocols and things of that nature. In training ideologies to 931 00:37:31,360 --> 00:37:33,279 Speaker 3: a degree, I'm not a big ideology guy. I'm not 932 00:37:33,320 --> 00:37:36,320 Speaker 3: a big guy like I'm not a huge proponent of 933 00:37:36,480 --> 00:37:39,359 Speaker 3: like living in one world. I do like to take 934 00:37:39,400 --> 00:37:41,600 Speaker 3: things from every other person that I feel is appropriate 935 00:37:42,680 --> 00:37:43,879 Speaker 3: or you know, different. 936 00:37:43,640 --> 00:37:45,400 Speaker 5: Methods cash Fabia included. 937 00:37:46,000 --> 00:37:49,120 Speaker 2: Definitely not definitely not. I was about like who is 938 00:37:49,160 --> 00:37:50,440 Speaker 2: that that don't even better? 939 00:37:50,560 --> 00:37:52,480 Speaker 5: Is the Diego's old guy? Nah? 940 00:37:52,719 --> 00:37:56,320 Speaker 3: Like there's certain things that just doesn't make sense. But 941 00:37:57,120 --> 00:37:59,160 Speaker 3: you know, and when it comes down to it's like 942 00:37:59,360 --> 00:38:05,160 Speaker 3: fundamental patterns understanding fatigue management, you know, understanding communication and 943 00:38:05,200 --> 00:38:08,279 Speaker 3: then putting it all together in a systemized approach that 944 00:38:08,440 --> 00:38:10,840 Speaker 3: can progress an athlete and also reduce the risk of 945 00:38:11,040 --> 00:38:11,920 Speaker 3: non contact injury. 946 00:38:12,040 --> 00:38:13,759 Speaker 2: That's the that's the main print, strong right there. 947 00:38:13,840 --> 00:38:15,640 Speaker 5: Bro, That's it. I'm look at this equipment. I'm so 948 00:38:15,760 --> 00:38:17,319 Speaker 5: fucking jealous of your equipment. Man. 949 00:38:17,480 --> 00:38:19,120 Speaker 2: Man, what happened? 950 00:38:19,880 --> 00:38:22,920 Speaker 6: I flew to the wrong airport, that is what happens. 951 00:38:23,000 --> 00:38:25,160 Speaker 6: That's a that's a truth thing. I watched this ready 952 00:38:25,160 --> 00:38:27,120 Speaker 6: for this PC tell me if I say anything wrong. 953 00:38:27,760 --> 00:38:29,960 Speaker 6: So the back extension there of the Ghost machine. Here's 954 00:38:30,000 --> 00:38:32,359 Speaker 6: why that one's special because you've got the back tray 955 00:38:32,440 --> 00:38:34,880 Speaker 6: on it, which means with the bands on the bottom, 956 00:38:34,920 --> 00:38:37,759 Speaker 6: which means not only can you do barbell raises up 957 00:38:37,800 --> 00:38:40,600 Speaker 6: the bottom for your posterior chain, but you can now 958 00:38:40,640 --> 00:38:43,400 Speaker 6: attach bands to it as well. The one I have 959 00:38:43,520 --> 00:38:45,880 Speaker 6: at home does not have that capability. This one allows 960 00:38:45,880 --> 00:38:48,359 Speaker 6: you to go, Pete rubish super heavy on the back area. 961 00:38:49,040 --> 00:38:50,640 Speaker 1: Pete, that's pretty nerd heavy. 962 00:38:50,680 --> 00:38:50,960 Speaker 6: Right there. 963 00:38:51,360 --> 00:38:52,360 Speaker 5: There's your there's your deadlift. 964 00:38:52,440 --> 00:38:54,800 Speaker 2: Jack. I have well, what do we call band tension 965 00:38:54,920 --> 00:38:55,680 Speaker 2: at an N range? 966 00:38:56,200 --> 00:38:57,640 Speaker 5: I don't know. I don't do bands very much. 967 00:38:57,719 --> 00:39:00,440 Speaker 2: So bands at an N range gives you accommodated. 968 00:39:00,000 --> 00:39:02,799 Speaker 6: Resistance, comminator resistance. That's it, Phil can I I want 969 00:39:02,800 --> 00:39:04,520 Speaker 6: to get on the seal row before we go. Okay, 970 00:39:05,680 --> 00:39:08,799 Speaker 6: I never used the reverse I have a reverse cypers. 971 00:39:08,560 --> 00:39:10,719 Speaker 1: Okay, I ask you key questions about Jim culture, but 972 00:39:10,760 --> 00:39:12,800 Speaker 1: I want you to be dead honest with me. Okay, 973 00:39:13,480 --> 00:39:14,840 Speaker 1: lifting gloves, yeah your name. 974 00:39:14,840 --> 00:39:19,560 Speaker 2: No way, y way, like the president. 975 00:39:24,440 --> 00:39:27,239 Speaker 1: Figure out what I don't use that I've used in 976 00:39:27,320 --> 00:39:30,919 Speaker 1: since high school. You know it's good enough for Ronnie. Listen, 977 00:39:31,320 --> 00:39:32,440 Speaker 1: GSP is food enough for me? 978 00:39:32,520 --> 00:39:35,000 Speaker 5: Listen? Listen. I'm forty three. Okay. 979 00:39:35,719 --> 00:39:38,000 Speaker 6: It looks like I've been hit by a bus and 980 00:39:38,120 --> 00:39:40,200 Speaker 6: they threw lard on me. That's what I look like. 981 00:39:40,280 --> 00:39:42,200 Speaker 6: I looked terrible, But there was once upon a time 982 00:39:42,719 --> 00:39:45,640 Speaker 6: I lived in the gym. These fuckers don't believe anything 983 00:39:45,680 --> 00:39:46,040 Speaker 6: I say. 984 00:39:46,040 --> 00:39:48,800 Speaker 2: All right, back to my line, and I respect, I 985 00:39:48,880 --> 00:39:49,760 Speaker 2: respect his knowledge. 986 00:39:50,960 --> 00:39:52,360 Speaker 1: Any very book heavy. 987 00:39:53,040 --> 00:39:55,960 Speaker 6: Dude in the marine courts gymnast was definitely true. You 988 00:39:56,080 --> 00:39:58,960 Speaker 6: walk into any gym filled with dudes like this just 989 00:39:59,040 --> 00:40:02,440 Speaker 6: running put on the just running trains. I've heard the stories, 990 00:40:02,480 --> 00:40:02,960 Speaker 6: all right. 991 00:40:06,400 --> 00:40:08,080 Speaker 5: They're gonna throw you out of the window. 992 00:40:08,239 --> 00:40:10,239 Speaker 2: Yeah, will I had had. 993 00:40:10,400 --> 00:40:14,320 Speaker 3: I had a swat officer try to put these things on, 994 00:40:14,440 --> 00:40:17,040 Speaker 3: and I grabbed them like mid like pulled down. 995 00:40:17,120 --> 00:40:19,440 Speaker 1: I was like, get the condomns for your hands. All right, 996 00:40:19,640 --> 00:40:22,879 Speaker 1: back to gym culture. What about people that have meet 997 00:40:23,040 --> 00:40:25,279 Speaker 1: ways and means, they even have the hopes and dreams, 998 00:40:25,320 --> 00:40:26,960 Speaker 1: Yet they're still working out in their front yard? How 999 00:40:27,120 --> 00:40:28,800 Speaker 1: like just homeless bullshit? 1000 00:40:28,920 --> 00:40:29,040 Speaker 5: Is that? 1001 00:40:29,160 --> 00:40:29,279 Speaker 7: You know? 1002 00:40:29,360 --> 00:40:31,440 Speaker 2: As far as they're doing, Like. 1003 00:40:31,480 --> 00:40:33,560 Speaker 6: Before, he's taking a shot at me, but he's wrong, 1004 00:40:33,640 --> 00:40:33,759 Speaker 6: you know. 1005 00:40:33,880 --> 00:40:35,920 Speaker 1: Instead of like working out in his basement, Luke goes 1006 00:40:35,960 --> 00:40:38,480 Speaker 1: out in the front yard and Washington I did for 1007 00:40:38,560 --> 00:40:40,600 Speaker 1: a long time and just flaunt that story. 1008 00:40:40,680 --> 00:40:42,279 Speaker 2: It sounds like I'm fully with him, but I'm not 1009 00:40:42,360 --> 00:40:44,040 Speaker 2: mad at I'm. 1010 00:40:45,600 --> 00:40:47,239 Speaker 5: Mostly you can man like. 1011 00:40:47,400 --> 00:40:49,440 Speaker 6: This was during the pandemic, when the gyms were open, 1012 00:40:49,480 --> 00:40:50,799 Speaker 6: they were closed, they were open, they were clothing. 1013 00:40:50,880 --> 00:40:51,480 Speaker 5: This is you know, I don't know what. 1014 00:40:51,520 --> 00:40:53,320 Speaker 6: It wasn't Florida, but certainly most of the country was. 1015 00:40:53,520 --> 00:40:55,960 Speaker 6: So I just started investing in my home gym. And 1016 00:40:56,120 --> 00:40:59,000 Speaker 6: during COVID it was like, dude, it wasn't unusual, you know. 1017 00:40:59,239 --> 00:41:01,280 Speaker 6: Depending again that didn't have the same kind of lockdowns, 1018 00:41:01,280 --> 00:41:03,160 Speaker 6: but it was a while in DC where you couldn't 1019 00:41:03,160 --> 00:41:05,120 Speaker 6: even leave your fucking house or whatever. So we were 1020 00:41:05,200 --> 00:41:07,200 Speaker 6: just I was just ordering ship and having it set, 1021 00:41:07,480 --> 00:41:09,400 Speaker 6: and then I had enough. I was like, I got 1022 00:41:09,400 --> 00:41:10,280 Speaker 6: a little set here. 1023 00:41:10,200 --> 00:41:10,360 Speaker 2: You know. 1024 00:41:10,440 --> 00:41:12,520 Speaker 5: That's but now my shoulders all jacked up. So I'm 1025 00:41:12,560 --> 00:41:12,960 Speaker 5: using kettle. 1026 00:41:13,760 --> 00:41:15,279 Speaker 2: That's what you were telling me. We got some keb 1027 00:41:15,400 --> 00:41:15,960 Speaker 2: stuff that we can do. 1028 00:41:16,160 --> 00:41:16,680 Speaker 5: I'll show you how. 1029 00:41:16,800 --> 00:41:20,680 Speaker 1: And finally about gym culture, how do you make sense 1030 00:41:20,719 --> 00:41:23,280 Speaker 1: of or understand that I can walk into most gym's 1031 00:41:23,320 --> 00:41:25,880 Speaker 1: fitness centers see almost no old guys in there. But 1032 00:41:25,920 --> 00:41:28,920 Speaker 1: if I go in the men's restroom, there's just balls 1033 00:41:29,000 --> 00:41:30,840 Speaker 1: hanging out. It's like a party. 1034 00:41:30,920 --> 00:41:34,920 Speaker 3: It's like the ball got in first, because there buttnaging 1035 00:41:34,920 --> 00:41:35,880 Speaker 3: and asna primarily. 1036 00:41:36,160 --> 00:41:38,880 Speaker 2: Right, there may be a steam room, right, the Russian 1037 00:41:38,920 --> 00:41:40,120 Speaker 2: teeth and shaven. 1038 00:41:39,840 --> 00:41:43,080 Speaker 6: With with just old men. Old men will literally put 1039 00:41:43,120 --> 00:41:43,640 Speaker 6: on socks and. 1040 00:41:43,640 --> 00:41:44,880 Speaker 5: Shoes before under. 1041 00:41:46,200 --> 00:41:49,960 Speaker 2: That's very true. I left the gym after that one. 1042 00:41:49,960 --> 00:41:51,359 Speaker 2: I was good. I never went back. 1043 00:41:51,800 --> 00:41:53,799 Speaker 6: With the number one benefit, I guess the ember one 1044 00:41:53,840 --> 00:41:55,480 Speaker 6: benefit of owning your own gym is what like you 1045 00:41:55,520 --> 00:41:56,759 Speaker 6: can just work out whenever the fuck you. 1046 00:41:56,840 --> 00:41:57,560 Speaker 5: Want you can. 1047 00:41:57,640 --> 00:41:59,480 Speaker 2: I mean, I use this is my lab, right. 1048 00:41:59,520 --> 00:42:01,160 Speaker 6: This isn't like to the public right now, No, no, 1049 00:42:01,480 --> 00:42:02,080 Speaker 6: this is private. 1050 00:42:02,400 --> 00:42:05,440 Speaker 3: But yeah, even when I started the gym, I just 1051 00:42:05,520 --> 00:42:10,000 Speaker 3: got sick. I started at a real competitive powerlifting gym 1052 00:42:10,160 --> 00:42:12,399 Speaker 3: when I was fighting too as well, so I never 1053 00:42:12,480 --> 00:42:14,719 Speaker 3: really did the gold gym LA fitness. I would go 1054 00:42:14,840 --> 00:42:18,279 Speaker 3: here and there. But I grew up in a powerlifting 1055 00:42:18,360 --> 00:42:19,440 Speaker 3: strong man environment. 1056 00:42:19,560 --> 00:42:20,400 Speaker 2: As far as that. 1057 00:42:20,560 --> 00:42:23,440 Speaker 7: Judgment full zone, yeah, only judgments are like you couldn't 1058 00:42:23,480 --> 00:42:27,320 Speaker 7: touch the radio unless you squatted over four hundred and 1059 00:42:27,320 --> 00:42:30,480 Speaker 7: fifty pounds and banche at least three hundred pounds, right, 1060 00:42:30,560 --> 00:42:33,160 Speaker 7: you didn't touch the radio And so with. 1061 00:42:33,280 --> 00:42:35,080 Speaker 2: That there was no gloves by the way either. 1062 00:42:37,520 --> 00:42:40,200 Speaker 3: I couldn't do that either, And so for me, I 1063 00:42:40,360 --> 00:42:42,640 Speaker 3: was like I wanted to get I wanted to keep 1064 00:42:42,680 --> 00:42:45,560 Speaker 3: that environment going. And I said, well if I have 1065 00:42:45,680 --> 00:42:47,839 Speaker 3: the means to do, so I just create my own 1066 00:42:47,960 --> 00:42:50,239 Speaker 3: environment and make sure that the culture is what I 1067 00:42:50,360 --> 00:42:50,840 Speaker 3: wanted to be. 1068 00:42:51,200 --> 00:42:52,040 Speaker 2: And so that's what I do. 1069 00:42:52,719 --> 00:42:54,800 Speaker 6: Fair enough, do you feel like, in all seriousness, do 1070 00:42:54,880 --> 00:42:57,240 Speaker 6: you feel like it's kind of funny? 1071 00:42:57,320 --> 00:42:57,440 Speaker 5: Right? 1072 00:42:57,560 --> 00:42:57,600 Speaker 8: Like? 1073 00:42:57,640 --> 00:42:59,239 Speaker 6: When I look around, I'm like, who else is doing 1074 00:42:59,320 --> 00:43:01,719 Speaker 6: what Phil does? And of course you're pretty unique, but 1075 00:43:01,800 --> 00:43:03,680 Speaker 6: there are other people trying to do certain kinds of things. 1076 00:43:03,719 --> 00:43:06,440 Speaker 6: Like he moved on, but for a while both Sandoval 1077 00:43:06,640 --> 00:43:10,200 Speaker 6: was at at UFCPI. But funnily enough, where did he 1078 00:43:10,320 --> 00:43:10,719 Speaker 6: come from? 1079 00:43:11,040 --> 00:43:13,240 Speaker 5: Football? Right? To what extent? 1080 00:43:13,440 --> 00:43:16,719 Speaker 6: Is that some kind of influence on how you think 1081 00:43:16,760 --> 00:43:20,080 Speaker 6: about your facility, how to train everything. 1082 00:43:20,200 --> 00:43:22,080 Speaker 3: We still have high school football guys that come in here. 1083 00:43:22,200 --> 00:43:25,359 Speaker 3: We have to have some NFL fifteen NFL guys coming 1084 00:43:25,400 --> 00:43:29,480 Speaker 3: in on Wednesday this Wednesday. But yeah, it's because of 1085 00:43:29,520 --> 00:43:32,160 Speaker 3: the fact that football was our first understanding of how 1086 00:43:32,200 --> 00:43:35,400 Speaker 3: to do strength and conditioning as from a sport perspective, right, 1087 00:43:35,800 --> 00:43:39,600 Speaker 3: that was the first sport that actually really adopted strength 1088 00:43:39,680 --> 00:43:42,399 Speaker 3: and conditioning. And then you know, other sports came along, 1089 00:43:42,560 --> 00:43:46,520 Speaker 3: hockey and even like basketball and baseball they didn't come 1090 00:43:46,600 --> 00:43:49,480 Speaker 3: till later, but football was that sport. So you have 1091 00:43:49,520 --> 00:43:52,080 Speaker 3: a lot of guys that won. It was one of 1092 00:43:52,120 --> 00:43:53,959 Speaker 3: those things where you wanted to get bigger, stronger, faster. 1093 00:43:54,120 --> 00:43:55,600 Speaker 3: So how do you get bigger, stronger faster Where you 1094 00:43:55,640 --> 00:43:57,080 Speaker 3: do that in the weight room, right, And you need 1095 00:43:57,120 --> 00:43:59,840 Speaker 3: to get bigger, stronger faster for football because football is 1096 00:43:59,880 --> 00:44:03,440 Speaker 3: a very you know, high impact sport, right, and so 1097 00:44:03,600 --> 00:44:05,040 Speaker 3: for that, I think that that's why a lot of 1098 00:44:05,080 --> 00:44:07,360 Speaker 3: those guys kind of migrate over to other sports and 1099 00:44:07,400 --> 00:44:09,640 Speaker 3: they have the understanding of it because they have a 1100 00:44:09,719 --> 00:44:12,640 Speaker 3: background in basic biomechanics and physiology and so on and 1101 00:44:12,680 --> 00:44:13,040 Speaker 3: so forth. 1102 00:44:13,040 --> 00:44:15,759 Speaker 6: All Right, who's been like you know, you just test them, 1103 00:44:15,800 --> 00:44:17,560 Speaker 6: you see him work out, You're just like, this guy's 1104 00:44:17,560 --> 00:44:18,280 Speaker 6: a fucking freak. 1105 00:44:18,520 --> 00:44:22,799 Speaker 3: The one that just left Boston Ja Jake Bosswick has 1106 00:44:22,880 --> 00:44:25,960 Speaker 3: been with me for seven years and I would tell 1107 00:44:25,960 --> 00:44:28,480 Speaker 3: you right now, the kid puts in so much work 1108 00:44:28,560 --> 00:44:30,920 Speaker 3: and effort. And I have another one. There's two and 1109 00:44:30,960 --> 00:44:32,480 Speaker 3: they go hand in hand. It's like they kind of 1110 00:44:32,880 --> 00:44:34,920 Speaker 3: they compete all the time. It's him and Tyler Ray 1111 00:44:35,280 --> 00:44:37,600 Speaker 3: who works out of works out of Kilcliff, now I 1112 00:44:37,760 --> 00:44:40,480 Speaker 3: call it Kilfliff. But these two guys, they're not the 1113 00:44:40,680 --> 00:44:43,719 Speaker 3: biggest names, but they put in the most work, right. 1114 00:44:43,920 --> 00:44:47,200 Speaker 3: And then another guy that's outside of that, timbaland. 1115 00:44:47,440 --> 00:44:49,160 Speaker 6: Timberland, well I've seen his transformation. 1116 00:44:49,280 --> 00:44:50,920 Speaker 1: Man, I'm gonna take like Timberland and Magoo. 1117 00:44:51,320 --> 00:44:55,600 Speaker 6: Yes, they were from Virginia Beach, Timberland, So walk me 1118 00:44:55,680 --> 00:44:57,560 Speaker 6: through that. You're going through your day and you get 1119 00:44:57,600 --> 00:44:59,520 Speaker 6: a phone call or however it happened. 1120 00:44:59,680 --> 00:45:03,440 Speaker 3: So yeah, So it's funny because Jake actually did padwork 1121 00:45:03,480 --> 00:45:06,560 Speaker 3: with him. So he's been doing PAD work with Timberland 1122 00:45:06,600 --> 00:45:10,799 Speaker 3: for like five six years and then one day Tim 1123 00:45:11,160 --> 00:45:13,040 Speaker 3: you told Jake, He's like, man, who's the trainer that 1124 00:45:13,080 --> 00:45:13,440 Speaker 3: you work with? 1125 00:45:13,520 --> 00:45:14,399 Speaker 2: I want to work with him. 1126 00:45:14,960 --> 00:45:17,800 Speaker 3: So Jake actually called me and goes, Tim wants to 1127 00:45:17,800 --> 00:45:19,600 Speaker 3: work with you, come to the house. So I was 1128 00:45:19,680 --> 00:45:22,600 Speaker 3: like cool, went to the house. I for the first year, 1129 00:45:23,120 --> 00:45:26,120 Speaker 3: I saw that he had no movement in his hips. 1130 00:45:26,200 --> 00:45:28,759 Speaker 3: He had very little movement in his upper back. So 1131 00:45:28,960 --> 00:45:31,440 Speaker 3: we had him on the floor doing mobility work and 1132 00:45:31,719 --> 00:45:35,680 Speaker 3: just basic biomechanics for the entire year and so that 1133 00:45:36,000 --> 00:45:38,120 Speaker 3: he bought into that system, and then from there we 1134 00:45:38,200 --> 00:45:40,040 Speaker 3: started to grow into Okay, now he's standing up, Now 1135 00:45:40,080 --> 00:45:42,640 Speaker 3: he's doing more dynamic movements, and he built a great 1136 00:45:42,719 --> 00:45:45,479 Speaker 3: base with David Alexander, one of the guys. 1137 00:45:45,560 --> 00:45:46,759 Speaker 2: I don't know if you guys know who that is. 1138 00:45:46,840 --> 00:45:49,680 Speaker 3: He's another great strength conditioning coach, work with Lebron and 1139 00:45:50,360 --> 00:45:52,920 Speaker 3: d Wade and all those guys down in Miami. Built 1140 00:45:52,960 --> 00:45:54,840 Speaker 3: a good base with him, and then for me, I 1141 00:45:55,000 --> 00:45:56,920 Speaker 3: just took it and just try to run with it 1142 00:45:56,960 --> 00:45:58,240 Speaker 3: as much as possible. 1143 00:45:58,040 --> 00:45:59,760 Speaker 2: And started to progress him going further. 1144 00:46:00,200 --> 00:46:02,320 Speaker 1: Say names, because you may have had to sign an NDA, 1145 00:46:02,480 --> 00:46:07,120 Speaker 1: but you got a celebrity clientele. That's impressive almost like man, 1146 00:46:07,280 --> 00:46:09,200 Speaker 1: maybe that's the pivot. I mean, that's that could be 1147 00:46:09,280 --> 00:46:10,879 Speaker 1: a fun of fun life for the rest. 1148 00:46:11,320 --> 00:46:14,120 Speaker 6: Could you live off of just training Timberland alone? 1149 00:46:14,560 --> 00:46:15,520 Speaker 2: Yeah? Absolutely? 1150 00:46:16,000 --> 00:46:18,600 Speaker 6: You know what, Phil, fuck you well, I want to 1151 00:46:18,640 --> 00:46:19,600 Speaker 6: give you the chance to answer this. 1152 00:46:20,800 --> 00:46:21,160 Speaker 1: What's that? 1153 00:46:21,440 --> 00:46:21,480 Speaker 8: Like? 1154 00:46:21,560 --> 00:46:24,240 Speaker 1: You know, it's one thing to train actually you know Olympian, 1155 00:46:24,360 --> 00:46:28,800 Speaker 1: NFL or mixed martial artists or berknuckle fighter? What's the 1156 00:46:28,880 --> 00:46:30,400 Speaker 1: life training athletically ordinary? 1157 00:46:30,440 --> 00:46:31,279 Speaker 2: Because these these. 1158 00:46:31,280 --> 00:46:34,960 Speaker 1: Movie stars, they're they're yoke shit. But you know, did 1159 00:46:35,000 --> 00:46:36,879 Speaker 1: they put in the work to get that? That's my question. 1160 00:46:37,040 --> 00:46:38,480 Speaker 3: I mean, I know, I know the Rock puts in 1161 00:46:38,840 --> 00:46:40,520 Speaker 3: crazy amount of work. I know, Kevin Hart puts in 1162 00:46:40,520 --> 00:46:42,320 Speaker 3: a crazy amount of work. And I'm just saying that 1163 00:46:42,360 --> 00:46:44,120 Speaker 3: I don't train them. Don't don't say that train them. 1164 00:46:44,440 --> 00:46:46,160 Speaker 3: But I know the guys that do, and I know 1165 00:46:46,719 --> 00:46:49,760 Speaker 3: you know them as as individuals. They're the hardest workers 1166 00:46:49,800 --> 00:46:52,279 Speaker 3: in the room wherever they go, right. But Timber is 1167 00:46:52,280 --> 00:46:54,839 Speaker 3: the same person. He's the same way I put him 1168 00:46:54,960 --> 00:46:57,680 Speaker 3: with some of my elite fighters. He trains with Jake, 1169 00:46:57,760 --> 00:47:01,400 Speaker 3: sometimes he trains with Tyler sometimes seen it. And he 1170 00:47:01,560 --> 00:47:03,680 Speaker 3: may not be able to do most of the actual, 1171 00:47:04,120 --> 00:47:07,359 Speaker 3: you know, exercises or anything like that, but he'll still put. 1172 00:47:07,280 --> 00:47:09,040 Speaker 2: In the effort, which is important. 1173 00:47:09,280 --> 00:47:12,759 Speaker 3: And I've noticed with the most elite people they did 1174 00:47:12,840 --> 00:47:15,640 Speaker 3: that that common theme of effort is solely there. 1175 00:47:16,440 --> 00:47:19,239 Speaker 5: Right. He may be athletically ordinary, but in no other way. 1176 00:47:19,320 --> 00:47:21,839 Speaker 1: Is what he's trying to say, is that Marky Mark 1177 00:47:21,920 --> 00:47:24,640 Speaker 1: does so much ship before you even think about waking up. 1178 00:47:25,160 --> 00:47:27,080 Speaker 5: Yeah, it's not chicken and broccoli that got on those apps. 1179 00:47:27,160 --> 00:47:27,879 Speaker 5: Let's just be very well. 1180 00:47:27,960 --> 00:47:31,120 Speaker 6: Maybe that helps, but I'm sure I'm listen all those 1181 00:47:31,200 --> 00:47:33,720 Speaker 6: guys in Hollywood, who's the guy who plays Stork Hemsworth 1182 00:47:33,800 --> 00:47:36,719 Speaker 6: or whatever. It's like, my wife has a crush on 1183 00:47:36,840 --> 00:47:38,799 Speaker 6: that dude, and I was She was like, he lifts 1184 00:47:38,840 --> 00:47:40,600 Speaker 6: so many ways, and I'm like, he does. 1185 00:47:42,640 --> 00:47:44,200 Speaker 2: Are right now? 1186 00:47:45,320 --> 00:47:47,160 Speaker 6: My wife's South America, But I was like, I was like, yes, 1187 00:47:47,239 --> 00:47:51,480 Speaker 6: he does lift weights. He also lifts psalms and t 1188 00:47:51,680 --> 00:47:54,319 Speaker 6: r T. And you know, I'm not. 1189 00:47:54,320 --> 00:47:57,360 Speaker 2: Hate on they do have anything at that and everything. 1190 00:47:57,120 --> 00:47:59,080 Speaker 6: That I just try to explain to people, there's a 1191 00:47:59,280 --> 00:48:02,359 Speaker 6: certain kind of realistic perspective you have to have, even 1192 00:48:02,400 --> 00:48:04,800 Speaker 6: if you work your assoles. Yeah, there's a level that 1193 00:48:04,840 --> 00:48:06,680 Speaker 6: you're going to level out at and it doesn't look 1194 00:48:06,719 --> 00:48:07,880 Speaker 6: like thor Yeah, you have. 1195 00:48:07,920 --> 00:48:10,239 Speaker 3: A genetic makeup at a genetic ceiling per se. You 1196 00:48:10,320 --> 00:48:12,239 Speaker 3: know that you have to hit and that that's that's 1197 00:48:12,280 --> 00:48:14,160 Speaker 3: what it is, but you can always push it to 1198 00:48:14,320 --> 00:48:15,480 Speaker 3: the actual ceiling. 1199 00:48:15,200 --> 00:48:15,759 Speaker 2: Of where that is. 1200 00:48:16,239 --> 00:48:19,160 Speaker 6: So, so, where where's Phil the roo headed man? Man? 1201 00:48:19,640 --> 00:48:21,000 Speaker 6: Since we talked on the first time, You've be like 1202 00:48:21,000 --> 00:48:22,439 Speaker 6: a completely different person in certain ways. 1203 00:48:22,480 --> 00:48:22,960 Speaker 2: I appreciate. 1204 00:48:22,960 --> 00:48:24,719 Speaker 3: I'm trying to do it all man, honestly, you know, 1205 00:48:24,840 --> 00:48:26,200 Speaker 3: I just want to put the people in the right 1206 00:48:26,239 --> 00:48:27,880 Speaker 3: place to do it. You know, I'm trying to build 1207 00:48:27,920 --> 00:48:31,080 Speaker 3: a solid team with everybody that I have here and 1208 00:48:31,200 --> 00:48:33,160 Speaker 3: then scale it, you know, not only not only for 1209 00:48:33,239 --> 00:48:35,239 Speaker 3: this gym, but for gyms to come. You know, I 1210 00:48:35,320 --> 00:48:37,520 Speaker 3: want to do a licensing where I'm licensing out the 1211 00:48:37,560 --> 00:48:40,480 Speaker 3: methods to all gyms in the world. That one may 1212 00:48:40,520 --> 00:48:42,320 Speaker 3: be the mentori is that I that I coach that 1213 00:48:42,440 --> 00:48:45,239 Speaker 3: have gyms they can use those methods. And as we 1214 00:48:45,400 --> 00:48:47,720 Speaker 3: license that, then we can start to do more continuing 1215 00:48:47,840 --> 00:48:50,200 Speaker 3: education on that front. Put together a university or a 1216 00:48:50,320 --> 00:48:53,880 Speaker 3: course that is a CEU for any nationally accredited certification. 1217 00:48:54,360 --> 00:48:56,600 Speaker 3: That's going to help my guys still stay relevant in 1218 00:48:56,680 --> 00:48:59,279 Speaker 3: their certifications. Then on top of that, you know, I 1219 00:48:59,320 --> 00:49:00,960 Speaker 3: want to I want to something with Tim. We got 1220 00:49:01,040 --> 00:49:03,600 Speaker 3: something big with Pushing Peaks, which is a program that 1221 00:49:03,680 --> 00:49:07,000 Speaker 3: we have out, but it's really more so about optimizing 1222 00:49:07,080 --> 00:49:09,439 Speaker 3: human performance from a whole, and I want to build 1223 00:49:09,480 --> 00:49:12,839 Speaker 3: that up into something spectacular, maybe do conferences down the line, 1224 00:49:12,840 --> 00:49:14,160 Speaker 3: and then also maybe a sports club. 1225 00:49:14,280 --> 00:49:15,560 Speaker 2: So there's a lot there I can. 1226 00:49:15,440 --> 00:49:15,719 Speaker 5: Go on it. 1227 00:49:15,840 --> 00:49:17,239 Speaker 1: Just don't sell out. If they're like, we want you 1228 00:49:17,280 --> 00:49:20,080 Speaker 1: to be the official gym of power Slat, be like, so. 1229 00:49:20,239 --> 00:49:21,400 Speaker 2: I'm gonna I had a couple of it. 1230 00:49:21,560 --> 00:49:23,400 Speaker 6: I'll just say this, this is just a personal thing 1231 00:49:23,480 --> 00:49:24,640 Speaker 6: for me. If I just want to tell you this 1232 00:49:24,719 --> 00:49:27,120 Speaker 6: on camera. Listen, anyone who makes it from any walk 1233 00:49:27,160 --> 00:49:29,080 Speaker 6: of life, I have respect for right and I feel 1234 00:49:29,080 --> 00:49:31,520 Speaker 6: like you're not done. But I do feel like you've 1235 00:49:31,560 --> 00:49:34,920 Speaker 6: made something for yourself pretty pretty special. I especially appreciate 1236 00:49:34,920 --> 00:49:36,680 Speaker 6: it out of like the blue collar guys who don't 1237 00:49:36,680 --> 00:49:39,719 Speaker 6: have ship handed to them. And you didn't just do 1238 00:49:39,800 --> 00:49:43,360 Speaker 6: it with hard work. You did it with constant adult learning, 1239 00:49:44,080 --> 00:49:48,239 Speaker 6: making good decisions, betting on yourself, investing in yourself. You've 1240 00:49:48,320 --> 00:49:50,200 Speaker 6: never been short on that, and I've kind of watched 1241 00:49:50,239 --> 00:49:51,759 Speaker 6: it from afar and I've been like, I don't think 1242 00:49:52,239 --> 00:49:54,360 Speaker 6: your success is in any way accidental, bro, it's not. 1243 00:49:54,680 --> 00:49:56,439 Speaker 2: I appreciate that really coming from you guys. 1244 00:49:56,520 --> 00:49:58,840 Speaker 3: I thank you so much, man, because it really is 1245 00:49:58,920 --> 00:50:02,600 Speaker 3: a constant, constant like progression and grind to a degree 1246 00:50:02,719 --> 00:50:05,839 Speaker 3: like I don't stop, it doesn't stop, and it's I'm 1247 00:50:06,120 --> 00:50:08,400 Speaker 3: grateful and blessed to have the family that I have 1248 00:50:08,719 --> 00:50:12,120 Speaker 3: that understand that. You know, my wife is phenomenal. She 1249 00:50:12,320 --> 00:50:14,520 Speaker 3: knows that I'm up at eleven twelve, one o'clock at night, 1250 00:50:14,600 --> 00:50:17,160 Speaker 3: still study and still putting together you know, plans and 1251 00:50:17,239 --> 00:50:20,480 Speaker 3: programs and formulating new processes, so that we can grow 1252 00:50:20,640 --> 00:50:23,920 Speaker 3: and do things that I always saw myself doing, right, 1253 00:50:24,040 --> 00:50:29,319 Speaker 3: traveling the world, helping people and accomplishing many things to come, 1254 00:50:29,400 --> 00:50:32,480 Speaker 3: and then building something of that, right, building quote unquote 1255 00:50:32,520 --> 00:50:35,120 Speaker 3: a legacy. But really it's just what I can pass 1256 00:50:35,200 --> 00:50:36,960 Speaker 3: down to the people that follow me. 1257 00:50:37,680 --> 00:50:40,680 Speaker 6: Right. Where does your vision for yourself come from? And 1258 00:50:40,800 --> 00:50:43,000 Speaker 6: when I say vision, I don't mean like that thing. 1259 00:50:43,280 --> 00:50:46,640 Speaker 6: I mean thinking of yourself as someone who is capable 1260 00:50:47,280 --> 00:50:51,400 Speaker 6: of doing things, because, honestly, man like, that's not necessarily inherent. 1261 00:50:51,520 --> 00:50:53,839 Speaker 6: It's certainly not intuitive. A lot of people grow up 1262 00:50:53,880 --> 00:50:56,280 Speaker 6: thinking why would I even bother? I can't be anything? 1263 00:50:56,719 --> 00:50:58,480 Speaker 6: And you had every reason to not think that, at 1264 00:50:58,560 --> 00:51:00,120 Speaker 6: least for a certain part of your life. But you 1265 00:51:00,200 --> 00:51:01,880 Speaker 6: never really seem to. You always seem to be like, oh, 1266 00:51:02,400 --> 00:51:03,160 Speaker 6: this will always go. 1267 00:51:03,320 --> 00:51:03,480 Speaker 2: Well. 1268 00:51:03,719 --> 00:51:05,839 Speaker 3: Yeah, It's interesting you asked me that because I thought 1269 00:51:05,880 --> 00:51:09,200 Speaker 3: about that last night and I was like, literally last night, 1270 00:51:09,400 --> 00:51:13,640 Speaker 3: and I go, I've never had doubt in myself, Like 1271 00:51:13,760 --> 00:51:17,280 Speaker 3: I've always been like strategic, where like, okay, be smart, 1272 00:51:17,520 --> 00:51:20,360 Speaker 3: like it's gonna take time, and getting older, I'm a 1273 00:51:20,719 --> 00:51:24,160 Speaker 3: lot more patient in my approach where I'm a little 1274 00:51:24,200 --> 00:51:27,719 Speaker 3: bit more strategy based for the most part. When I 1275 00:51:27,800 --> 00:51:29,640 Speaker 3: was younger, it was like, just go after it, get 1276 00:51:29,680 --> 00:51:31,200 Speaker 3: it done. And in your twenties you can kind of 1277 00:51:31,280 --> 00:51:33,759 Speaker 3: do that when you get to your thirties. And we'll 1278 00:51:33,800 --> 00:51:35,400 Speaker 3: see in my forties. And the great thing is I 1279 00:51:35,480 --> 00:51:38,040 Speaker 3: have people that are at that level in the forties 1280 00:51:38,080 --> 00:51:41,520 Speaker 3: and fifties, like yourself, that I can go to see 1281 00:51:41,600 --> 00:51:44,520 Speaker 3: that I did that, that I could go to ask 1282 00:51:44,600 --> 00:51:46,560 Speaker 3: for advice on like what did you feel at this 1283 00:51:46,680 --> 00:51:47,719 Speaker 3: particular time in your life? 1284 00:51:47,760 --> 00:51:49,640 Speaker 2: What did you feel at this particular time? And I'll 1285 00:51:49,680 --> 00:51:50,280 Speaker 2: never forget. 1286 00:51:51,640 --> 00:51:53,279 Speaker 3: So Tim is now like a mentor to me too 1287 00:51:53,280 --> 00:51:55,480 Speaker 3: as well, not only that he's a business partner, but 1288 00:51:55,800 --> 00:51:58,160 Speaker 3: for me, I asked him, I go, you know, he goes. 1289 00:51:58,480 --> 00:51:59,920 Speaker 2: He actually said, I love you. 1290 00:52:00,280 --> 00:52:01,840 Speaker 3: The reason why he stuck with me is because he 1291 00:52:01,920 --> 00:52:05,880 Speaker 3: loves my my grind, my effort, the stuff that I 1292 00:52:05,960 --> 00:52:06,200 Speaker 3: put in. 1293 00:52:06,880 --> 00:52:08,720 Speaker 2: He goes. Man, He's like, just keep working. 1294 00:52:09,200 --> 00:52:13,640 Speaker 3: He's like, be strategic, be conscious of your thoughts, understand 1295 00:52:13,680 --> 00:52:16,600 Speaker 3: what you're doing, but know that you have to be patient. 1296 00:52:17,160 --> 00:52:20,960 Speaker 3: And his mentor told him, his mentor is a big 1297 00:52:21,080 --> 00:52:22,719 Speaker 3: name and I'm not gonna say the name, but he's 1298 00:52:22,760 --> 00:52:23,239 Speaker 3: a big name. 1299 00:52:24,560 --> 00:52:26,439 Speaker 2: Told him, you're not gonna make your real money. 1300 00:52:26,560 --> 00:52:27,920 Speaker 3: Just be patient because you're not gonna make your real 1301 00:52:27,920 --> 00:52:31,280 Speaker 3: money till you're fifty, because that's when everything comes together. 1302 00:52:32,080 --> 00:52:32,919 Speaker 1: Pete earning years. 1303 00:52:33,000 --> 00:52:33,919 Speaker 5: Yep, that's what they say. 1304 00:52:34,200 --> 00:52:36,759 Speaker 3: I mean whatever that means. I just took it as 1305 00:52:36,960 --> 00:52:38,879 Speaker 3: just be patient and it's gonna come. And don't look 1306 00:52:38,880 --> 00:52:41,719 Speaker 3: at anybody else and try to dictate what you're doing 1307 00:52:41,840 --> 00:52:43,600 Speaker 3: or feel bad about what you're doing or where you're 1308 00:52:43,600 --> 00:52:45,279 Speaker 3: at because you look at somebody else at. 1309 00:52:45,200 --> 00:52:45,719 Speaker 2: A higher level. 1310 00:52:45,800 --> 00:52:47,680 Speaker 1: You run your own race, motherfucker exactly. 1311 00:52:47,800 --> 00:52:48,480 Speaker 5: That was good. I like that. 1312 00:52:48,520 --> 00:52:49,520 Speaker 2: We should put that on the shirt. 1313 00:52:50,560 --> 00:52:53,000 Speaker 6: So do you see a world where you might just 1314 00:52:53,200 --> 00:52:54,960 Speaker 6: like not train anime fighters anymore? 1315 00:52:55,120 --> 00:52:56,200 Speaker 2: Yeah, No, I definitely do. 1316 00:52:56,480 --> 00:52:59,560 Speaker 3: I'm at that point now where like I have my guys, 1317 00:52:59,600 --> 00:53:01,600 Speaker 3: I don't want to take on any new clients to 1318 00:53:01,760 --> 00:53:05,239 Speaker 3: that degree. I have my personal training clients, I have 1319 00:53:05,880 --> 00:53:09,360 Speaker 3: my online clients, I have my fighters, but I'm not 1320 00:53:10,520 --> 00:53:14,120 Speaker 3: interested right now unless it's something that really it's like 1321 00:53:14,360 --> 00:53:15,920 Speaker 3: Dustin says, like it got to get me out of bed, 1322 00:53:16,200 --> 00:53:20,080 Speaker 3: you know, in that particular way. I always will help somebody, 1323 00:53:20,560 --> 00:53:23,799 Speaker 3: but I'm gonna give them to my coaches that I coach. 1324 00:53:23,880 --> 00:53:24,000 Speaker 2: Now. 1325 00:53:24,520 --> 00:53:27,200 Speaker 3: So now those young guys coming up, whether they be 1326 00:53:27,239 --> 00:53:29,920 Speaker 3: in the UFC, Belatoor, NFC, whatever, if they come to 1327 00:53:29,960 --> 00:53:32,960 Speaker 3: the gym, I'm gonna say, go to you know, go 1328 00:53:33,120 --> 00:53:34,960 Speaker 3: to k go to Jack. These are my young kids 1329 00:53:34,960 --> 00:53:36,759 Speaker 3: that are actually coming up in the game. So I 1330 00:53:36,840 --> 00:53:38,600 Speaker 3: want them to get the experience. I want them to 1331 00:53:38,640 --> 00:53:41,799 Speaker 3: get what I got. So that's where I'm at right now, 1332 00:53:41,800 --> 00:53:42,439 Speaker 3: That's where I'm headed. 1333 00:53:43,400 --> 00:53:45,719 Speaker 6: Well, Phil, I have over the years, man, I will 1334 00:53:45,800 --> 00:53:48,600 Speaker 6: just tell you that, like I have all It's funny, right, 1335 00:53:48,680 --> 00:53:53,520 Speaker 6: I've been, I have always been, or not always. But 1336 00:53:53,760 --> 00:53:55,879 Speaker 6: every time there's a new wrinkle, I'm like, huh, look 1337 00:53:55,920 --> 00:53:58,319 Speaker 6: at Phil trying something new doing this, Like there's new 1338 00:53:58,360 --> 00:54:00,880 Speaker 6: little wrinkles every time. I have to learn to stop 1339 00:54:01,040 --> 00:54:03,759 Speaker 6: being I guess I am. I'm I'm no longer surprised. 1340 00:54:04,080 --> 00:54:06,880 Speaker 6: But you do find ways to grow and reinvent and 1341 00:54:07,000 --> 00:54:09,759 Speaker 6: self again better yourself in ways that it's just so. 1342 00:54:11,080 --> 00:54:15,120 Speaker 5: Not just unusual, but proof of concept. It all mostly 1343 00:54:15,160 --> 00:54:16,400 Speaker 5: anyway that seemed to work for you. 1344 00:54:16,480 --> 00:54:18,200 Speaker 3: And I have to say this because you gave me 1345 00:54:18,360 --> 00:54:22,040 Speaker 3: a spotlight when nobody did. You started me out in 1346 00:54:22,200 --> 00:54:24,320 Speaker 3: this world. I always say that I always you know, 1347 00:54:24,560 --> 00:54:26,960 Speaker 3: have gratitude towards you and what you've done for me. 1348 00:54:27,440 --> 00:54:29,200 Speaker 3: So I thank you once again for putting out there 1349 00:54:29,200 --> 00:54:29,879 Speaker 3: and let me do whatever. 1350 00:54:29,920 --> 00:54:31,640 Speaker 5: Think nothing of it. It's funny. Do you remember what 1351 00:54:31,719 --> 00:54:33,040 Speaker 5: you asked me when I called you on the phone? 1352 00:54:33,160 --> 00:54:33,279 Speaker 2: Uh? 1353 00:54:33,400 --> 00:54:37,200 Speaker 6: Nah, you go, uh, why do you want to talk 1354 00:54:37,320 --> 00:54:41,440 Speaker 6: to me? And we walked through it and in the 1355 00:54:41,560 --> 00:54:42,960 Speaker 6: end it came out just fine. But I remember you 1356 00:54:43,040 --> 00:54:44,600 Speaker 6: being like, why do you want to talk to me? 1357 00:54:44,719 --> 00:54:46,600 Speaker 6: And I was like, because I think this might be interesting? 1358 00:54:46,680 --> 00:54:48,759 Speaker 2: Yeah, perfect, Yeah, I think at that point I was 1359 00:54:48,840 --> 00:54:51,239 Speaker 2: kind of like, what's going on here? You know? 1360 00:54:51,440 --> 00:54:54,000 Speaker 3: And so and I'm still very selfless, so I'm like, 1361 00:54:54,040 --> 00:54:56,160 Speaker 3: why are you talking to me? You're an MMA journalist 1362 00:54:56,239 --> 00:54:58,120 Speaker 3: to a degree, right, we're combat sport journalists. 1363 00:54:58,120 --> 00:55:00,680 Speaker 8: Now you're entertanners. We've evolved, entertain one hundred percent like 1364 00:55:00,760 --> 00:55:07,000 Speaker 8: you involved. You evolved tremendously, and I prefer the term 1365 00:55:07,040 --> 00:55:08,880 Speaker 8: pornographer there you go. 1366 00:55:09,360 --> 00:55:11,759 Speaker 3: Yeah, And I've always watched your breakdowns and everything, and 1367 00:55:12,160 --> 00:55:15,000 Speaker 3: you come at that at that way and like in 1368 00:55:15,080 --> 00:55:17,640 Speaker 3: that way the same way I come at physical preparation. 1369 00:55:18,120 --> 00:55:24,200 Speaker 6: So that's where yeah, yeah, uh, let's let's sad, perhaps 1370 00:55:24,280 --> 00:55:27,000 Speaker 6: let's sad and depressed. Uh well, Phil, thank you for 1371 00:55:27,080 --> 00:55:27,759 Speaker 6: bringing us in here. 1372 00:55:27,800 --> 00:55:27,960 Speaker 5: Man. 1373 00:55:28,600 --> 00:55:29,960 Speaker 6: I guess if folks want to get in touch with you, 1374 00:55:30,040 --> 00:55:33,360 Speaker 6: and I actually don't know who is the right person 1375 00:55:33,520 --> 00:55:35,960 Speaker 6: for Phil Derux, Like, who would I send your way? 1376 00:55:36,520 --> 00:55:38,040 Speaker 6: You look you cast a pretty wide net. 1377 00:55:38,200 --> 00:55:40,440 Speaker 3: Sure, yeah, I mean well, if you were to go 1378 00:55:40,560 --> 00:55:42,279 Speaker 3: to any of my social media accounts, you can get 1379 00:55:42,320 --> 00:55:42,560 Speaker 3: me there. 1380 00:55:42,800 --> 00:55:44,319 Speaker 2: Ruth Strong at the Ruth Strong and. 1381 00:55:44,360 --> 00:55:46,520 Speaker 3: Then I have my accounts for the gym and and 1382 00:55:46,719 --> 00:55:49,719 Speaker 3: education space, and then my website is derouthstroan dot com. 1383 00:55:49,800 --> 00:55:52,080 Speaker 3: My Twitter is at the Rustrong. If you want to 1384 00:55:52,080 --> 00:55:54,120 Speaker 3: find out more like videos and stuff, it's Phil Derue 1385 00:55:54,239 --> 00:55:56,880 Speaker 3: on YouTube. I get all that stuff on there. But 1386 00:55:56,920 --> 00:55:59,240 Speaker 3: if you want to contact me directly and contact my assistant, 1387 00:55:59,280 --> 00:56:02,719 Speaker 3: morning cha. Two time world champion boxer. So don't don't. 1388 00:56:02,920 --> 00:56:03,520 Speaker 3: Don't get slick. 1389 00:56:03,560 --> 00:56:06,160 Speaker 1: At the Mount, she trained the million Dollar Baby for 1390 00:56:06,239 --> 00:56:09,000 Speaker 1: the film Looks Department. I was great meet and her lucky. 1391 00:56:09,000 --> 00:56:10,239 Speaker 1: I didn't tell her my review of the film. 1392 00:56:10,400 --> 00:56:11,879 Speaker 6: It just goes off a clip, dude. 1393 00:56:11,920 --> 00:56:13,240 Speaker 5: I mean, I know won a lot of awards. 1394 00:56:13,280 --> 00:56:14,279 Speaker 1: No one prepared me at all. 1395 00:56:14,560 --> 00:56:15,960 Speaker 5: It gets sad, Yeah, I get sad. 1396 00:56:16,640 --> 00:56:19,319 Speaker 2: Luckily she did no writing on the film. Yeah, fair enough. 1397 00:56:19,719 --> 00:56:22,480 Speaker 3: But at Maureen or actually it's it's Maureen at de 1398 00:56:22,560 --> 00:56:23,440 Speaker 3: Roustawan dot com. 1399 00:56:24,040 --> 00:56:26,960 Speaker 6: All he does is bill Champions, Bill Champions built himself, 1400 00:56:27,320 --> 00:56:29,640 Speaker 6: built a business, built Champions and. 1401 00:56:29,960 --> 00:56:33,440 Speaker 1: Uh, imagine, imagine this artist could take in an unfinished 1402 00:56:33,840 --> 00:56:36,440 Speaker 1: work like this, like this, dad bod and give hibout, 1403 00:56:36,440 --> 00:56:37,520 Speaker 1: give him about three to six. 1404 00:56:37,800 --> 00:56:39,879 Speaker 5: I need to move and see what happens for my life. 1405 00:56:40,080 --> 00:56:42,280 Speaker 5: I honestly feel like i'd be I'd look completely different. 1406 00:56:42,480 --> 00:56:46,279 Speaker 2: Absolutely, I would. I would let you inject, absolutely for sure. 1407 00:56:46,600 --> 00:56:48,600 Speaker 5: Well, you know, Phil, I'm pretty pathetic these days, but 1408 00:56:48,800 --> 00:56:49,680 Speaker 5: I try, I try. 1409 00:56:50,080 --> 00:56:51,960 Speaker 1: I'd like to get a Saggie nipple like most good 1410 00:56:52,040 --> 00:56:53,200 Speaker 1: champions these days, spoke weed. 1411 00:56:53,239 --> 00:56:56,200 Speaker 6: I heard that's what you gotta do, all right. There 1412 00:56:56,360 --> 00:56:58,920 Speaker 6: is Phildru that's Brian Campbell and Luke Thomas. More to 1413 00:56:58,920 --> 00:56:59,879 Speaker 6: comment Room Service diver