1 00:00:00,120 --> 00:00:02,800 Speaker 1: I want to tell you about a moment earlier this year. 2 00:00:04,080 --> 00:00:06,520 Speaker 1: I was at my friend Ruby's house. We were gathered 3 00:00:06,519 --> 00:00:09,520 Speaker 1: to watch the Benito Bowl. Apparently there's some sort of 4 00:00:09,520 --> 00:00:13,039 Speaker 1: sporting event happening at the same time. But we were 5 00:00:13,400 --> 00:00:17,520 Speaker 1: sad for Benito Antonio Martinez o Gascio. Okay, well, we 6 00:00:17,520 --> 00:00:20,480 Speaker 1: weren't exactly sad because all of us adults were standing 7 00:00:20,520 --> 00:00:24,000 Speaker 1: in a semi circle, entranced by the magic of Bad 8 00:00:24,040 --> 00:00:28,280 Speaker 1: Bunny's performance that start in the sugar cane field, all 9 00:00:28,320 --> 00:00:32,960 Speaker 1: the Latino venders, the actual wedding. It was the joy, 10 00:00:33,159 --> 00:00:37,239 Speaker 1: the nourishment we needed at the time. And then we 11 00:00:37,320 --> 00:00:42,800 Speaker 1: see him dressed in all white, his voice firm and smooth. 12 00:00:44,200 --> 00:00:51,000 Speaker 1: It is the one and only Ricky Martin singing arguably 13 00:00:51,080 --> 00:00:54,720 Speaker 1: one of the most political anti colonial anthems of Bad 14 00:00:54,840 --> 00:01:00,960 Speaker 1: Bunny's catalog, Loke Hawaii a quie against statehood for Puerto Rico. 15 00:01:01,480 --> 00:01:05,440 Speaker 1: And I am in awe of this moment. I know 16 00:01:05,640 --> 00:01:10,039 Speaker 1: immediately the potency of the symbolism. Here here is the 17 00:01:10,160 --> 00:01:13,080 Speaker 1: artist who most represents what some people called the Latin 18 00:01:13,160 --> 00:01:16,560 Speaker 1: boom in the late nineties, the moment in history when 19 00:01:16,680 --> 00:01:19,680 Speaker 1: US audiences were suddenly like Oh gosh, darn, look at 20 00:01:19,720 --> 00:01:24,280 Speaker 1: these fiery Latins. They exist. And now, about two and 21 00:01:24,280 --> 00:01:27,959 Speaker 1: a half decades later, Ricky Martin stands before us, not 22 00:01:28,080 --> 00:01:33,880 Speaker 1: performing in English to a white audience for recognition or acceptance. No, 23 00:01:34,040 --> 00:01:39,440 Speaker 1: he stands before us, singing a song of resistance in Spanish. 24 00:01:40,200 --> 00:01:43,760 Speaker 1: And I stand there acutely aware that I would remember 25 00:01:43,840 --> 00:01:48,160 Speaker 1: this moment for decades to come, that this was a 26 00:01:48,200 --> 00:01:51,560 Speaker 1: touchstone moment not only for the long storied arc of 27 00:01:51,680 --> 00:01:56,720 Speaker 1: Ricky's career, but for the complicated narrative of Latino belonging 28 00:01:57,040 --> 00:02:02,320 Speaker 1: in the United States. And then my trance is interrupted 29 00:02:03,640 --> 00:02:08,919 Speaker 1: by the choir of boys behind me. Who's that? Yells 30 00:02:08,960 --> 00:02:11,600 Speaker 1: my eleven year old son and his two best friends, 31 00:02:12,200 --> 00:02:15,120 Speaker 1: And then all three of his moms turn around and yell, 32 00:02:15,520 --> 00:02:19,520 Speaker 1: what do you mean that's Ricky Martin? And the three 33 00:02:19,560 --> 00:02:27,560 Speaker 1: preteens say who's Ricky Martin? And then I realize I 34 00:02:27,600 --> 00:02:32,240 Speaker 1: have failed my child. He has grown up knowing about 35 00:02:32,280 --> 00:02:37,320 Speaker 1: Juangareel de Carleon Selena, Prince, Kate Bush, and so many 36 00:02:37,440 --> 00:02:41,600 Speaker 1: musical icons who paved away. But I have done him 37 00:02:41,639 --> 00:02:45,760 Speaker 1: a disservice by not teaching him about the man who 38 00:02:45,880 --> 00:02:49,239 Speaker 1: had to live a vida loca so bad Bunny could 39 00:02:49,280 --> 00:02:54,680 Speaker 1: do loa. And I'm going to be honest, I feel 40 00:02:54,720 --> 00:02:59,320 Speaker 1: that I have also failed myself because I've written a 41 00:02:59,440 --> 00:03:03,120 Speaker 1: lot about the late nineties Latin boom, which that term 42 00:03:03,240 --> 00:03:05,160 Speaker 1: is silly, and we're going to talk about how even 43 00:03:05,280 --> 00:03:07,639 Speaker 1: Ricky knew it was a weird concept way back when. 44 00:03:08,320 --> 00:03:11,840 Speaker 1: But anyway, I have written a lot about this historic moment, 45 00:03:12,320 --> 00:03:15,840 Speaker 1: but I have very on Brad centered the divas of 46 00:03:15,880 --> 00:03:21,160 Speaker 1: the moment, jay Lo, Shaquidra, the og predecessor, Selina, and 47 00:03:21,200 --> 00:03:24,720 Speaker 1: I have mentioned Ricky, but I have never gone deep 48 00:03:25,240 --> 00:03:30,280 Speaker 1: on what he meant. Betro Yeah, no more. I'm going 49 00:03:30,360 --> 00:03:32,880 Speaker 1: to do right by my son, by all of y'all 50 00:03:32,880 --> 00:03:35,560 Speaker 1: out there who may not know, or who may have forgotten, 51 00:03:36,120 --> 00:03:40,800 Speaker 1: just how much this man did for the culture. Because 52 00:03:40,880 --> 00:03:43,880 Speaker 1: let me tell you, whether you are Latino or queer, 53 00:03:44,040 --> 00:03:47,600 Speaker 1: or just someone who is trying to live more authentically, 54 00:03:48,400 --> 00:03:53,400 Speaker 1: you have something to glean from Ricky Martin's life and legacy. 55 00:03:54,640 --> 00:03:57,600 Speaker 1: This man was out here figuring things out on his own, 56 00:03:58,080 --> 00:04:01,600 Speaker 1: surviving child stardom. I want to talk to you because 57 00:04:01,640 --> 00:04:05,320 Speaker 1: you are the cutest thing I have seen being fetishized 58 00:04:05,360 --> 00:04:09,120 Speaker 1: by American media. You recalled the Puerto Rican Elvis, and 59 00:04:09,240 --> 00:04:14,440 Speaker 1: you can understand why scrutinize obsessively about his sexuality and. 60 00:04:14,400 --> 00:04:17,960 Speaker 2: With you, there have been the rumors that question I'll 61 00:04:17,960 --> 00:04:20,800 Speaker 2: talk about your sexual orientation. You must be aware of 62 00:04:20,839 --> 00:04:22,240 Speaker 2: basing them, of course. 63 00:04:22,520 --> 00:04:26,400 Speaker 1: And ultimately he stayed true to himself, to his roots, 64 00:04:26,480 --> 00:04:31,480 Speaker 1: to his integrity. So let's fucking go. This one's for 65 00:04:31,640 --> 00:04:39,520 Speaker 1: Ricky Martin. This is Morely Excited, the show where we 66 00:04:39,600 --> 00:04:45,320 Speaker 1: explore cultural moments of the past and present today the 67 00:04:45,360 --> 00:05:10,640 Speaker 1: meaning of Ricky Martin's evolution. Enrique Ricky Martin Morales was 68 00:05:10,680 --> 00:05:14,680 Speaker 1: born on December twenty fourth, nineteen seventy one, in San Juan, 69 00:05:14,839 --> 00:05:19,279 Speaker 1: Puerto Rico. His mother was an accountant, his father a psychologist, 70 00:05:19,600 --> 00:05:22,800 Speaker 1: and by the early eighties he stars in commercials for 71 00:05:23,000 --> 00:05:36,160 Speaker 1: Orange Crush, Soda Orange and for Burger King. I encourage 72 00:05:36,160 --> 00:05:38,040 Speaker 1: you to watch this episode on YouTube so you can 73 00:05:38,080 --> 00:05:41,680 Speaker 1: see how sweet he looks. In nineteen eighty four, when 74 00:05:41,760 --> 00:05:46,000 Speaker 1: Ricky is twelve years old, he joins boy band Menudo. 75 00:05:47,400 --> 00:05:50,680 Speaker 1: He is teeny tiny when he joins the boy band, 76 00:05:50,720 --> 00:05:54,560 Speaker 1: which is like a Latin American Jackson five. We cannot 77 00:05:54,839 --> 00:06:01,400 Speaker 1: gloss over Menudo. They were huge. Their fandom was verya esque, 78 00:06:01,600 --> 00:06:05,440 Speaker 1: with mostly young girls screaming franetically anytime they were close 79 00:06:05,480 --> 00:06:09,680 Speaker 1: to the boy band. Manuta was such a cultural phenomenon 80 00:06:10,120 --> 00:06:14,279 Speaker 1: that the band is seared into people's most formative memories. 81 00:06:14,839 --> 00:06:18,039 Speaker 1: Here's my friend and La Brega editor Lauda Bettis and 82 00:06:18,080 --> 00:06:22,320 Speaker 1: Puerto Rico, who remembers when Ricky was introduced in the band. 83 00:06:23,040 --> 00:06:27,880 Speaker 3: I was three years old, and I remember vividly not 84 00:06:27,920 --> 00:06:30,920 Speaker 3: only watching him, but what I felt, how it felt, 85 00:06:30,960 --> 00:06:35,159 Speaker 3: it was so exciting, and how I thought he was 86 00:06:35,200 --> 00:06:36,239 Speaker 3: the most beautiful boy. 87 00:06:37,000 --> 00:06:39,599 Speaker 1: You can see the frenzy when the band, including newly 88 00:06:39,640 --> 00:06:42,720 Speaker 1: integrated Little Ricky, was a guest on one of Oprah's 89 00:06:42,760 --> 00:06:45,799 Speaker 1: early TV shows. I want to talk to you because 90 00:06:45,839 --> 00:06:50,720 Speaker 1: you are the cutest thing. I assume when you first 91 00:06:50,800 --> 00:06:52,320 Speaker 1: knew that you were going to be picked to be 92 00:06:52,400 --> 00:06:54,800 Speaker 1: in this group, what did you do to go home 93 00:06:54,800 --> 00:07:00,040 Speaker 1: and celebrate? Well, all my parents, two of my family. 94 00:07:02,600 --> 00:07:03,960 Speaker 3: Listen, don't purr back there. 95 00:07:04,040 --> 00:07:06,320 Speaker 4: We got a hair all your family. 96 00:07:06,960 --> 00:07:11,000 Speaker 1: Ricky's hair is perfectly coaved with layered strans raining his 97 00:07:11,120 --> 00:07:15,360 Speaker 1: little face, and he looks dowiyed, earnest, maybe a little nervous, 98 00:07:15,760 --> 00:07:20,760 Speaker 1: his English still a bit halting. Damn yeah, disco. Fine, 99 00:07:20,840 --> 00:07:21,920 Speaker 1: you went to a disco. 100 00:07:21,680 --> 00:07:22,560 Speaker 4: Party after that? 101 00:07:23,800 --> 00:07:28,640 Speaker 1: Oh, a disco party. Now, twelve year old Ricky doesn't 102 00:07:28,680 --> 00:07:31,840 Speaker 1: just join a boy band when he joins Manudo, he 103 00:07:31,960 --> 00:07:37,920 Speaker 1: joins a strict, very regimented machine with a strategy on youth. 104 00:07:38,680 --> 00:07:41,360 Speaker 1: Every member of Manula was cycled out once they were 105 00:07:41,400 --> 00:07:44,440 Speaker 1: sixteen or seventeen, when their voice is changed or they 106 00:07:44,440 --> 00:07:48,720 Speaker 1: got facial hair. Manudo was a chronic youth group, but 107 00:07:48,800 --> 00:07:53,080 Speaker 1: with the responsibilities and pressures of adults. Many years after 108 00:07:53,160 --> 00:07:56,560 Speaker 1: Ricky's tenure in Manudo, other band members will say the 109 00:07:56,600 --> 00:08:01,160 Speaker 1: band was riddled with abuse and untenable pressure, but Ricky 110 00:08:01,200 --> 00:08:05,280 Speaker 1: has never said anything negative about Manudo on record. In fact, 111 00:08:05,400 --> 00:08:08,920 Speaker 1: in the late nineties, he tells Rosie O'Donnell Manudo provided 112 00:08:09,000 --> 00:08:11,600 Speaker 1: him with preparation. Manudo was great. 113 00:08:11,640 --> 00:08:14,320 Speaker 5: I mean five years of intense discipline of working a lot. 114 00:08:15,480 --> 00:08:17,120 Speaker 1: You know, if I had to start all over again, 115 00:08:17,160 --> 00:08:19,600 Speaker 1: I would do it because I guess I'm where I'm 116 00:08:19,600 --> 00:08:21,400 Speaker 1: at today because of the discipline that I got being 117 00:08:21,600 --> 00:08:25,480 Speaker 1: in a band like this. So this is his entire adolescence. 118 00:08:25,920 --> 00:08:30,040 Speaker 1: He sings in Spanish and English and French and Portuguese. 119 00:08:30,360 --> 00:08:33,679 Speaker 1: He turns on the charm and he is great at it. 120 00:08:34,200 --> 00:08:37,040 Speaker 1: Other band members have said Ricky was like the golden 121 00:08:37,120 --> 00:08:41,080 Speaker 1: boy of Menudo, and this is his life until seventeen 122 00:08:41,280 --> 00:08:45,199 Speaker 1: years old, when he inevitably ages out of the boy band. 123 00:08:46,160 --> 00:08:49,320 Speaker 1: A couple years later, he puts out his first solo 124 00:08:49,480 --> 00:08:54,719 Speaker 1: record in Spanish, self titled Ricky Martin. We're going to 125 00:08:54,800 --> 00:08:57,199 Speaker 1: include this video in our show notes so you can 126 00:08:57,240 --> 00:09:00,959 Speaker 1: take a look at Ricky with his perfectly wavy beach 127 00:09:01,080 --> 00:09:06,439 Speaker 1: locks with an Adonnis facique, shirtless with only a sleeveless 128 00:09:06,520 --> 00:09:10,400 Speaker 1: open black vest hanging over his shoulders and a big 129 00:09:10,559 --> 00:09:15,200 Speaker 1: silver Gothic cross on his glistening chest. He's wearing white 130 00:09:15,360 --> 00:09:18,960 Speaker 1: like black jeans with a big belt buckle, and he 131 00:09:19,240 --> 00:09:24,360 Speaker 1: is swaying those hips, smiling at the crowd. Honey, he 132 00:09:24,600 --> 00:09:29,360 Speaker 1: is giving hot vampire muse Okay, like the vampire less 133 00:09:29,400 --> 00:09:33,600 Speaker 1: Stott would want to spend eternity with this man. Look, 134 00:09:33,679 --> 00:09:36,839 Speaker 1: there's a lot to say about Ricky Martin's character, at 135 00:09:36,880 --> 00:09:40,360 Speaker 1: his kind heart and his long career, and we're gonna 136 00:09:40,400 --> 00:09:43,280 Speaker 1: get to all of that, but Babe, we gotta take 137 00:09:43,320 --> 00:09:47,720 Speaker 1: a moment to just state the obvious. This man is 138 00:09:48,360 --> 00:09:53,440 Speaker 1: absolutely gorgeous, not to be weird. There are beautiful people 139 00:09:53,520 --> 00:09:57,240 Speaker 1: out there, and then there are beautiful people, and he 140 00:09:57,679 --> 00:10:02,600 Speaker 1: is beautiful. In capital letter gon mucho rispeto, with love 141 00:10:02,640 --> 00:10:06,520 Speaker 1: and admiration from my queer heart. You know, for me, 142 00:10:07,000 --> 00:10:10,880 Speaker 1: Ricky was always in the background, and I grew up 143 00:10:11,240 --> 00:10:15,240 Speaker 1: knowing he was massively successful and beautiful. But I feel 144 00:10:15,240 --> 00:10:17,360 Speaker 1: like I took him for granted. You know, I was 145 00:10:17,400 --> 00:10:21,080 Speaker 1: too obsessed with the divas, just you know, not realizing 146 00:10:21,120 --> 00:10:24,440 Speaker 1: how gay I was. But when I spent hours going 147 00:10:24,480 --> 00:10:29,120 Speaker 1: through archival videos of him for this episode, I was like, Oh, 148 00:10:29,120 --> 00:10:33,319 Speaker 1: my goodness, this is a once in a generation of beauty. 149 00:10:33,840 --> 00:10:35,640 Speaker 1: This is the kind of man who'd wait to find 150 00:10:35,800 --> 00:10:39,440 Speaker 1: bus and sculptures of had he lived in Grecian times. 151 00:10:40,040 --> 00:10:42,760 Speaker 1: So I could not do an episode on Ricky Martin 152 00:10:42,920 --> 00:10:49,199 Speaker 1: without a proper acknowledgment of his beauty. Anyway, Ricky's first 153 00:10:49,240 --> 00:10:52,480 Speaker 1: album is a major success in nineteen ninety one. It's 154 00:10:52,520 --> 00:10:55,840 Speaker 1: one of the highest debuts for a Latin artist under Sony, 155 00:10:56,400 --> 00:11:01,400 Speaker 1: and at this point he's on a roll. His second album, Skyrock, 156 00:11:01,559 --> 00:11:03,960 Speaker 1: is to the top of the Latin charts, and he 157 00:11:04,120 --> 00:11:07,480 Speaker 1: soon named Top New Latin Artist at the nineteen ninety 158 00:11:07,520 --> 00:11:11,720 Speaker 1: three Billboard Music Awards. He then ventures into acting, does 159 00:11:11,760 --> 00:11:15,840 Speaker 1: a sitcom role in English here huh, I brought you 160 00:11:15,920 --> 00:11:19,800 Speaker 1: this of your chapter and then no big Deal. He 161 00:11:19,880 --> 00:11:22,800 Speaker 1: lands a regular character on General Hospital, one of the 162 00:11:22,800 --> 00:11:25,960 Speaker 1: biggest soaps in the United States. He plays a singer 163 00:11:26,040 --> 00:11:27,319 Speaker 1: named Miel Morris. 164 00:11:27,920 --> 00:11:31,400 Speaker 3: I just found a friend of mine as aides and 165 00:11:31,600 --> 00:11:32,720 Speaker 3: use a satiny peplay. 166 00:11:33,520 --> 00:11:36,320 Speaker 1: By the way, Ricky Leader says he hated going to 167 00:11:36,360 --> 00:11:40,240 Speaker 1: the General Hospital set. He doesn't feel comfortable. Remember this 168 00:11:40,320 --> 00:11:44,560 Speaker 1: is nineteen ninety four nineteen ninety six. Our man is 169 00:11:44,600 --> 00:11:48,840 Speaker 1: often the only Latino in the room. I imagine it slowely. 170 00:11:49,559 --> 00:11:52,280 Speaker 1: So he returns to his love of music, and he 171 00:11:52,360 --> 00:11:59,160 Speaker 1: releases his third album with a chart topper, Maria for 172 00:11:59,200 --> 00:12:01,640 Speaker 1: all of you young watching whom I think, Oh, this 173 00:12:01,760 --> 00:12:04,920 Speaker 1: is senyora music. Babe, Let me school you a little okay. 174 00:12:05,559 --> 00:12:09,640 Speaker 1: First of all, senoras are cool, Okay. Second, this song 175 00:12:09,720 --> 00:12:14,559 Speaker 1: fused together Flamenco salsa dance and Afro Caribbean rhythms. 176 00:12:15,320 --> 00:12:15,920 Speaker 4: Was there at the. 177 00:12:15,920 --> 00:12:18,880 Speaker 1: Time an industry push to use some of these sounds 178 00:12:18,880 --> 00:12:23,559 Speaker 1: in Latin music. Yes, but I also think Arbrimo. Ricky 179 00:12:23,600 --> 00:12:28,400 Speaker 1: Martin was out here evolving the pop song formula. This 180 00:12:28,480 --> 00:12:33,720 Speaker 1: song is everywhere, and I think seeing Ricky become an 181 00:12:33,760 --> 00:12:38,520 Speaker 1: international hit while being so legible as a Latino meant 182 00:12:38,559 --> 00:12:42,280 Speaker 1: a lot to people. Here's Futuro senior producer and hardcore 183 00:12:42,360 --> 00:12:45,400 Speaker 1: Ricky Martin fan Gini Montalvo, who was growing up in 184 00:12:45,480 --> 00:12:47,000 Speaker 1: Georgia when this song came out. 185 00:12:47,440 --> 00:12:50,160 Speaker 4: Goad I just remember that song like blew my mind 186 00:12:50,200 --> 00:12:53,559 Speaker 4: because I was discovering my Latini dad, also as a teenager, 187 00:12:54,240 --> 00:12:56,840 Speaker 4: having grow up in the most non Latino place on 188 00:12:56,880 --> 00:12:57,960 Speaker 4: the planet. 189 00:12:58,080 --> 00:12:58,560 Speaker 3: And. 190 00:13:00,240 --> 00:13:02,360 Speaker 5: That song just meant everything to me. 191 00:13:03,120 --> 00:13:06,800 Speaker 1: Maria also solidified Ricky Martin not just as a beloved 192 00:13:06,920 --> 00:13:11,520 Speaker 1: Latin American star, but a global pop king in the making. 193 00:13:12,200 --> 00:13:14,240 Speaker 1: And then because he can and he's a man of 194 00:13:14,280 --> 00:13:17,320 Speaker 1: many talents, He's like, Okay, I'm gonna try Broadway now, 195 00:13:17,520 --> 00:13:20,760 Speaker 1: and he plays a lead role Marius Pontmerci in Lem's 196 00:13:20,800 --> 00:13:24,640 Speaker 1: arab After Le miss Is when things get really cooking. 197 00:13:25,160 --> 00:13:28,440 Speaker 1: Ricky returns to the studio for his fourth album, Vuelve, 198 00:13:28,920 --> 00:13:31,720 Speaker 1: which lands him a Grammy nomination. And I'm not talking 199 00:13:31,720 --> 00:13:35,400 Speaker 1: about a Latin Grammy. This was before the Latin Grammys 200 00:13:35,440 --> 00:13:41,200 Speaker 1: ever existed. I'm talking mainstream English Grammys. Ricky Martin is 201 00:13:41,240 --> 00:13:44,880 Speaker 1: set to perform at the award in nineteen ninety nine. Actually, 202 00:13:45,400 --> 00:13:49,080 Speaker 1: he's going to sing the Cup of Life, his FIFA 203 00:13:49,240 --> 00:13:52,040 Speaker 1: World Cup song, which by the way, has been hailed 204 00:13:52,400 --> 00:13:57,120 Speaker 1: as the best World Cup anthem of all time and 205 00:13:57,240 --> 00:13:59,920 Speaker 1: he absolutely devoured. 206 00:14:01,679 --> 00:14:02,120 Speaker 3: Oh. 207 00:14:02,160 --> 00:14:04,200 Speaker 1: I can't play the song here, but I have a 208 00:14:04,320 --> 00:14:07,800 Speaker 1: video about it on my Instagram. Maria is moly excited 209 00:14:07,880 --> 00:14:12,920 Speaker 1: with underscores between every word. This is a historic performance. 210 00:14:12,960 --> 00:14:18,320 Speaker 1: The music industry, including the Grammys themselves, officially recognize this 211 00:14:18,440 --> 00:14:22,760 Speaker 1: moment as the defining event that ushers in what people 212 00:14:22,800 --> 00:14:27,800 Speaker 1: call the so called Latin Boom. I really can't overstate 213 00:14:27,840 --> 00:14:31,320 Speaker 1: what a momentous performance this is. I asked Putuo senior 214 00:14:31,320 --> 00:14:35,119 Speaker 1: producer and Ricky Martin loyal Fancini Montalvo again to describe 215 00:14:35,200 --> 00:14:37,600 Speaker 1: what it was like watching this on TV. 216 00:14:38,240 --> 00:14:41,840 Speaker 5: Like, I literally I remember standing in my living room 217 00:14:41,880 --> 00:14:44,880 Speaker 5: watching as these like it's the them boris like came 218 00:14:44,920 --> 00:14:48,400 Speaker 5: down the aisles at the Gringo Grammys. This was before 219 00:14:48,440 --> 00:14:50,840 Speaker 5: the Latin Grammys, the last year before the Latin Grammys 220 00:14:50,840 --> 00:14:53,560 Speaker 5: were inaugurated, and like people were. 221 00:14:53,440 --> 00:14:57,200 Speaker 1: So excited, So naturally we get to the era of 222 00:14:57,280 --> 00:15:01,520 Speaker 1: Ricky Martin. You probably remember when he was living Lavida 223 00:15:01,600 --> 00:15:05,600 Speaker 1: Loca and becomes the first Latino to debut a song 224 00:15:05,800 --> 00:15:10,360 Speaker 1: at number one on the US Billboard two hundred charts. 225 00:15:10,880 --> 00:15:13,760 Speaker 1: He draws the largest crowd in the history of the 226 00:15:13,760 --> 00:15:15,640 Speaker 1: Today Show. Up to that point. 227 00:15:16,280 --> 00:15:19,480 Speaker 2: You've recalled the Puerto Rican Elvis, and you can understand 228 00:15:19,560 --> 00:15:20,840 Speaker 2: why he's proud. 229 00:15:21,520 --> 00:15:24,320 Speaker 1: All Greman is on the boat who gathered when Elvis 230 00:15:24,400 --> 00:15:27,560 Speaker 1: Presley with Damad has died on the Gleam and probably 231 00:15:27,680 --> 00:15:31,120 Speaker 1: with the Beatles. Ricky appears on the cover of Time 232 00:15:31,200 --> 00:15:35,520 Speaker 1: Magazine and Rolling Stone and also New York Magazine, Interview Magazine, 233 00:15:35,560 --> 00:15:42,160 Speaker 1: People Team, People, and Entertainment Magazine, and Ricky Mania is real. 234 00:15:42,720 --> 00:15:45,280 Speaker 1: Here he is on the Rose O'donnald Show the day 235 00:15:45,440 --> 00:15:47,080 Speaker 1: his English album releases. 236 00:15:47,560 --> 00:15:50,360 Speaker 3: I've recorded in many languages, but come on English, it's 237 00:15:50,400 --> 00:15:50,920 Speaker 3: so important. 238 00:15:51,120 --> 00:15:52,040 Speaker 4: And then let me tell you something. 239 00:15:52,080 --> 00:15:57,080 Speaker 1: America is in love with you, right, that's important. I 240 00:15:57,120 --> 00:15:59,800 Speaker 1: want you to remember that Ricky saying how a cent 241 00:16:00,240 --> 00:16:04,040 Speaker 1: it is to sing in English. But let's get something clear. 242 00:16:04,600 --> 00:16:07,960 Speaker 1: Even at the height of English Ricky Mania, he is 243 00:16:08,280 --> 00:16:12,760 Speaker 1: adamant he'll never abandon Spanish. Here's Ricky with Jay Leno. 244 00:16:13,960 --> 00:16:21,120 Speaker 3: I will not stop singing in Spanish. 245 00:16:18,440 --> 00:16:20,960 Speaker 1: Better now that he is considered a pop star in 246 00:16:21,000 --> 00:16:26,400 Speaker 1: the United States. While American journalists start prying into some 247 00:16:26,520 --> 00:16:28,080 Speaker 1: rumors about Ricky. 248 00:16:28,360 --> 00:16:33,320 Speaker 2: You know you could stop, You could say as many 249 00:16:33,440 --> 00:16:36,280 Speaker 2: artists have, Yes, I am gay. 250 00:16:38,200 --> 00:16:41,680 Speaker 1: We'll be right back with guess what. Another cringing interview 251 00:16:41,720 --> 00:16:45,760 Speaker 1: from the two thousands, and also the not cringy way. 252 00:16:45,960 --> 00:17:00,600 Speaker 1: Ricky Martin responds and rises, it is the year two thousand, 253 00:17:00,920 --> 00:17:04,399 Speaker 1: a year we love on the show, and Ricky Martin 254 00:17:04,480 --> 00:17:09,120 Speaker 1: releases his second English album, sound Loaded, with a hit 255 00:17:09,520 --> 00:17:14,880 Speaker 1: lead single, she Bangs. We need a moment to talk 256 00:17:14,920 --> 00:17:19,439 Speaker 1: about this video. The premise is Hot Horny Underwater Club 257 00:17:19,960 --> 00:17:24,320 Speaker 1: and it starts with some really fine octopus men, no 258 00:17:24,480 --> 00:17:29,080 Speaker 1: literally half naked men with cgi octopus tentacles. Most everyone 259 00:17:29,240 --> 00:17:32,040 Speaker 1: in the video is half naked, actually kind of twerking. 260 00:17:32,200 --> 00:17:35,960 Speaker 1: There's some girl on girl grinding. Almost everyone has a 261 00:17:36,000 --> 00:17:39,000 Speaker 1: certain look on their face, lip half raised, looking a 262 00:17:39,000 --> 00:17:42,720 Speaker 1: little feral. At one point, Ricky is laying down with 263 00:17:42,800 --> 00:17:46,959 Speaker 1: his shirt open, with various hands rubbing his body, his 264 00:17:47,160 --> 00:17:52,280 Speaker 1: blue jeans unbuttoned and he's making all kinds of faces. 265 00:17:53,400 --> 00:17:55,640 Speaker 1: I can't play you the music in this episode because 266 00:17:55,680 --> 00:17:58,920 Speaker 1: of copyright laws, but if you follow me on Instagram, 267 00:17:59,040 --> 00:18:01,840 Speaker 1: I have a real shit showing you this risky video 268 00:18:01,920 --> 00:18:05,440 Speaker 1: and explaining why I think it's the predecessor of a 269 00:18:05,480 --> 00:18:09,400 Speaker 1: certain bad bunny song I met Maria. Is we excited 270 00:18:09,400 --> 00:18:15,359 Speaker 1: on Instagram? With underscores between each word? Anyway, the conventional 271 00:18:15,400 --> 00:18:18,359 Speaker 1: thinking of this time is that artists have to gross 272 00:18:18,440 --> 00:18:21,440 Speaker 1: over to the English market. No one in this era, 273 00:18:21,640 --> 00:18:24,320 Speaker 1: or at least that I can remember, really challenge this 274 00:18:24,440 --> 00:18:27,359 Speaker 1: notion in a big way. And you know, it's very 275 00:18:27,440 --> 00:18:30,320 Speaker 1: clear that Ricky is treated by US media as a 276 00:18:30,359 --> 00:18:34,680 Speaker 1: sort of hot Latin lover trope. But you know, when 277 00:18:34,720 --> 00:18:37,920 Speaker 1: I see she Bangs, I don't see a Latino artist 278 00:18:38,040 --> 00:18:42,040 Speaker 1: necessarily pandering to a trope. I think that would be 279 00:18:42,280 --> 00:18:46,479 Speaker 1: a lazy take. Is there maybe some artistic engineering around 280 00:18:46,480 --> 00:18:49,760 Speaker 1: his image? Like does his team maybe play up his strengths, 281 00:18:49,880 --> 00:18:53,439 Speaker 1: ie he's beautiful and sexy and an amazing dancer and 282 00:18:53,480 --> 00:18:58,240 Speaker 1: creating this really exciting fusion music. Yes? Does US media 283 00:18:58,280 --> 00:19:01,800 Speaker 1: then take all this and play to a trope? Also? 284 00:19:01,920 --> 00:19:02,200 Speaker 4: Yes? 285 00:19:02,840 --> 00:19:08,159 Speaker 1: Billboard magazine called him a hot Tamali, which Tamalis are 286 00:19:08,240 --> 00:19:12,959 Speaker 1: Mexican and also the singular of Tamales is tamal. A 287 00:19:13,000 --> 00:19:16,160 Speaker 1: grammatical hill. I will die on a personal pet peeve 288 00:19:16,160 --> 00:19:21,760 Speaker 1: of mine, but anyway, grammatically incorrect cliches. Aside the coverage 289 00:19:21,800 --> 00:19:26,560 Speaker 1: around Ricky feels charged at this time, in most notably 290 00:19:26,680 --> 00:19:31,640 Speaker 1: a now infamous interview also from two thousand and with you. 291 00:19:31,760 --> 00:19:35,280 Speaker 2: There have been the rumors that question, I'll talk about 292 00:19:35,320 --> 00:19:38,200 Speaker 2: your sexual orientation. You must be aware of busie on me. 293 00:19:38,320 --> 00:19:43,040 Speaker 1: Of course, when Barbara Walters tries to make him come out. 294 00:19:43,200 --> 00:19:46,760 Speaker 2: You know you could stop these rumors. You could say, 295 00:19:46,880 --> 00:19:51,960 Speaker 2: as many artists have, yes I am gay, or you 296 00:19:52,000 --> 00:19:55,320 Speaker 2: could say no, I'm not, or you could leave it 297 00:19:55,400 --> 00:20:04,280 Speaker 2: as you are ambiguous to put you on the spot. 298 00:20:01,040 --> 00:20:10,280 Speaker 2: And I'm bringing it up because you know, named. 299 00:20:10,520 --> 00:20:15,560 Speaker 1: For giving me the opportunity to express the rumors. 300 00:20:17,680 --> 00:20:21,280 Speaker 3: But for some reason, I just don't feel like it. 301 00:20:22,160 --> 00:20:26,360 Speaker 1: I love that answer, I just don't feel like it. 302 00:20:27,040 --> 00:20:29,520 Speaker 1: That should be enough, and it feels like it was 303 00:20:29,560 --> 00:20:32,600 Speaker 1: an answer that was ahead of its time. Why would 304 00:20:32,640 --> 00:20:35,320 Speaker 1: he come out on her terms in an ambush moment? 305 00:20:36,000 --> 00:20:40,199 Speaker 1: And I love that he centers his feelings. I don't 306 00:20:40,320 --> 00:20:43,000 Speaker 1: feel like it new mantra, Babe, I don't feel like 307 00:20:43,080 --> 00:20:48,639 Speaker 1: it period. You know now coming out is kind of 308 00:20:48,800 --> 00:20:52,440 Speaker 1: antiquated in some circles, Thank goodness. A lot of queer 309 00:20:52,440 --> 00:20:56,000 Speaker 1: people nowadays don't need to come out because well, they 310 00:20:56,000 --> 00:21:00,800 Speaker 1: were never in, never living in a heterone normative straight 311 00:21:00,880 --> 00:21:06,760 Speaker 1: reality Pababe. In two thousand, the entire public world was 312 00:21:06,800 --> 00:21:12,119 Speaker 1: a heteronormative straight reality, and coming out was a big deal. 313 00:21:12,480 --> 00:21:16,879 Speaker 1: It was risky and could hurt your livelihood, not to 314 00:21:17,000 --> 00:21:20,520 Speaker 1: mention the emotional scarring of someone trying to force you 315 00:21:21,040 --> 00:21:25,399 Speaker 1: on national television to come out. Ricky wrote this in 316 00:21:25,400 --> 00:21:29,760 Speaker 1: his memoir quote, it was a topic I constantly struggled with, 317 00:21:29,960 --> 00:21:32,520 Speaker 1: one that caused me a lot of pain and anxiety. 318 00:21:33,119 --> 00:21:35,760 Speaker 1: And every time someone wrote in an article that I 319 00:21:35,840 --> 00:21:38,919 Speaker 1: was a homosexual, or each time this was asked of 320 00:21:38,960 --> 00:21:42,560 Speaker 1: me in an interview and not very subtly, it pushed 321 00:21:42,560 --> 00:21:46,400 Speaker 1: me further away from my truth. The rumors and questions 322 00:21:46,560 --> 00:21:51,280 Speaker 1: only increased my insecurity and my self rejection. They reminded 323 00:21:51,320 --> 00:21:54,480 Speaker 1: me of all the reasons why I was uncomfortable in 324 00:21:54,520 --> 00:21:58,800 Speaker 1: my own skin. At times, I felt I hated myself 325 00:21:59,440 --> 00:22:03,159 Speaker 1: because it was always presented under such a negative lens 326 00:22:03,680 --> 00:22:11,919 Speaker 1: as something scandalous and bad. It reinforced my desire to deny. Oh, Ricky, 327 00:22:12,000 --> 00:22:19,040 Speaker 1: we love you. Coming off of Ricky Mania and his 328 00:22:19,359 --> 00:22:23,680 Speaker 1: massive success in the US, Ricky releases a couple more albums, 329 00:22:23,720 --> 00:22:27,120 Speaker 1: one in Spanish, another in English. In two thousand and eight, 330 00:22:27,160 --> 00:22:31,359 Speaker 1: he becomes a dad, Welcoming too, baby boys. He talks 331 00:22:31,400 --> 00:22:35,200 Speaker 1: about loving being a dad, and it really suits him 332 00:22:35,240 --> 00:22:39,560 Speaker 1: because there's always been something really tender and caring about Ricky. 333 00:22:40,160 --> 00:22:43,359 Speaker 1: We really see this. In twenty ten, inspired by his 334 00:22:43,480 --> 00:22:45,840 Speaker 1: children and the legacy he wants to leave for them, 335 00:22:46,440 --> 00:22:50,080 Speaker 1: he comes out through a statement on his website. It's 336 00:22:50,119 --> 00:22:51,919 Speaker 1: a long statement, so I can't read it all, but 337 00:22:51,960 --> 00:22:55,200 Speaker 1: I really encourage you too. It's quite touching and earnest. 338 00:22:55,800 --> 00:22:59,679 Speaker 1: Let me read you some excerpts. Quote. To keep living 339 00:22:59,800 --> 00:23:03,200 Speaker 1: as I did up until today would be to indirectly 340 00:23:03,280 --> 00:23:07,639 Speaker 1: diminish the glow that my kids were born with. Enough 341 00:23:07,800 --> 00:23:11,159 Speaker 1: is enough. This has to change. This was not supposed 342 00:23:11,200 --> 00:23:13,639 Speaker 1: to happen five or ten years ago. It's supposed to 343 00:23:13,760 --> 00:23:17,239 Speaker 1: happen now. I am proud to say that I am 344 00:23:17,280 --> 00:23:22,720 Speaker 1: a fortunate homosexual man. I'm very blessed to be who 345 00:23:22,760 --> 00:23:28,640 Speaker 1: I am. I am blessed to be who I am. 346 00:23:29,480 --> 00:23:33,840 Speaker 1: Wow you are, Ricky, we all are. What a pioneer. 347 00:23:35,440 --> 00:23:40,320 Speaker 1: The next year, in twenty eleven, Ricky releases Musika Alma Sexo, 348 00:23:40,760 --> 00:23:44,679 Speaker 1: which is a critical hit. A few years later, he 349 00:23:44,760 --> 00:23:48,080 Speaker 1: stars as a coach on the Voice Australia. He releases 350 00:23:48,160 --> 00:23:51,560 Speaker 1: another album in twenty fifteen, which wins a Grammy for 351 00:23:51,720 --> 00:23:56,440 Speaker 1: Best Latin Pop Album. He gets married, then divorce, does 352 00:23:56,480 --> 00:24:00,440 Speaker 1: some acting, and in twenty nineteen, when Puerto Rico's governor 353 00:24:00,800 --> 00:24:05,800 Speaker 1: was exposed for homophobic text messages, including about Ricky himself, 354 00:24:06,359 --> 00:24:09,919 Speaker 1: Ricky Martin flew home and was one of a few 355 00:24:10,160 --> 00:24:15,400 Speaker 1: cultural figures who joined hundreds of thousands of protesters, forcing 356 00:24:15,440 --> 00:24:19,080 Speaker 1: the governor to resign. Here he is protesting an a 357 00:24:19,119 --> 00:24:31,920 Speaker 1: clip from Bloomberg News. I want to contrast this moment 358 00:24:32,000 --> 00:24:35,560 Speaker 1: in twenty nineteen when he's protesting with a point he 359 00:24:35,640 --> 00:24:39,280 Speaker 1: makes in his memoir. He writes, quote, I think that 360 00:24:39,400 --> 00:24:42,000 Speaker 1: one of the reasons why I found it so hard 361 00:24:42,040 --> 00:24:45,840 Speaker 1: to accept myself was because in my profession, I have 362 00:24:46,080 --> 00:24:50,080 Speaker 1: often been considered to be a Latin idol, a pop star, 363 00:24:50,640 --> 00:24:53,359 Speaker 1: and for some a sex symbol. I don't know if 364 00:24:53,400 --> 00:24:55,280 Speaker 1: it has to do with the fact that I'm Latin, 365 00:24:55,400 --> 00:24:57,359 Speaker 1: or it has to do with the global image of 366 00:24:57,400 --> 00:25:00,760 Speaker 1: the quote Latin lover. But I always had the feeling 367 00:25:00,840 --> 00:25:04,320 Speaker 1: that certain things were expected of me, among which was 368 00:25:04,359 --> 00:25:07,200 Speaker 1: the fact that I was supposed to seduce and allow 369 00:25:07,280 --> 00:25:11,560 Speaker 1: myself to be seduced by women. Maybe if there had 370 00:25:11,640 --> 00:25:15,840 Speaker 1: been another artist, another Latin idol, who had come before me, 371 00:25:16,520 --> 00:25:20,320 Speaker 1: I might have been less afraid. But the reality is 372 00:25:20,320 --> 00:25:22,719 Speaker 1: that I didn't have a role model, and that, in 373 00:25:22,800 --> 00:25:29,720 Speaker 1: my mind, helped make the whole thing entirely inconceivable. End quote. 374 00:25:30,880 --> 00:25:33,359 Speaker 1: I bring up this quote because the so called Latin 375 00:25:33,359 --> 00:25:38,400 Speaker 1: boom was both a touchstone for Latinos but also harmful. 376 00:25:39,119 --> 00:25:42,320 Speaker 1: I believe that the way Ricky Martin was framed prevented 377 00:25:42,400 --> 00:25:47,159 Speaker 1: him from being the full dimensional person he is, and 378 00:25:47,240 --> 00:25:50,400 Speaker 1: he had to write the script on his own. How 379 00:25:50,440 --> 00:25:52,640 Speaker 1: to come out and to come out with a message 380 00:25:52,680 --> 00:25:56,080 Speaker 1: of self love and celebration. How to come back to 381 00:25:56,160 --> 00:25:59,920 Speaker 1: singing in Spanish to his original audience, to his artistic 382 00:26:00,160 --> 00:26:04,480 Speaker 1: roots even after the crossover success. How to be very 383 00:26:04,520 --> 00:26:09,680 Speaker 1: publicly Latino without pandering to the reductive notions of Latini 384 00:26:09,720 --> 00:26:14,040 Speaker 1: dad of the time. And look did he always do perfect, 385 00:26:14,840 --> 00:26:16,879 Speaker 1: no ask me how do I feel? 386 00:26:17,400 --> 00:26:20,520 Speaker 2: How do you feel? 387 00:26:20,920 --> 00:26:25,399 Speaker 1: But I believe Ricky Martin's legacy changed the game. I'm 388 00:26:25,480 --> 00:26:28,000 Speaker 1: not trying to be cute when I say Bad Bunny 389 00:26:28,160 --> 00:26:31,439 Speaker 1: is able to be as free, as unapologetic as he 390 00:26:31,560 --> 00:26:35,840 Speaker 1: is because of the iterative and very real progress Ricky 391 00:26:35,880 --> 00:26:39,119 Speaker 1: Martin made. Remember when Ricky Martin said this. 392 00:26:39,560 --> 00:26:42,159 Speaker 3: I've recorded in many in many languages, but come on, English, 393 00:26:42,200 --> 00:26:42,960 Speaker 3: It's so important. 394 00:26:43,920 --> 00:26:46,520 Speaker 1: Isn't it kind of stunning that we went from that 395 00:26:47,160 --> 00:26:51,480 Speaker 1: to Bad Bunny in just two plus decades saying this 396 00:26:51,760 --> 00:26:53,320 Speaker 1: about singing in English. 397 00:26:53,800 --> 00:26:54,840 Speaker 5: I don't care. 398 00:26:58,520 --> 00:27:00,520 Speaker 1: That clip, by the way, is from an interview with 399 00:27:00,560 --> 00:27:03,760 Speaker 1: The New York Times as popcast. I don't think we 400 00:27:03,800 --> 00:27:08,520 Speaker 1: could have gone straight to Bad Bunnies defiance. Ricky Martin 401 00:27:08,720 --> 00:27:11,920 Speaker 1: had to set the stage, not just as an artist, 402 00:27:12,080 --> 00:27:15,080 Speaker 1: but also as a queer person. I think of how 403 00:27:15,160 --> 00:27:19,359 Speaker 1: Juan Gavriel couldn't really come out a generation before, and 404 00:27:19,400 --> 00:27:23,280 Speaker 1: then Ricky Martin did, but with a lot of controversy 405 00:27:23,359 --> 00:27:27,200 Speaker 1: leading up to it. And now artists like young Mikel 406 00:27:27,280 --> 00:27:30,720 Speaker 1: can be as queer as they want on stage. People 407 00:27:30,880 --> 00:27:33,880 Speaker 1: don't necessarily have to come out all the time anymore 408 00:27:34,320 --> 00:27:38,879 Speaker 1: because queer elders like Ricky once had the courage to 409 00:27:38,960 --> 00:27:43,400 Speaker 1: do so, or for example, Jenna Ortega can be as 410 00:27:43,480 --> 00:27:47,120 Speaker 1: goth and as eccentric as she wants. Latinos are less 411 00:27:47,160 --> 00:27:51,280 Speaker 1: and less beholden to the fiery Mummy or hot Latin 412 00:27:51,320 --> 00:27:56,440 Speaker 1: lover trope. I believe Ricky Martin played a key role 413 00:27:56,840 --> 00:28:03,480 Speaker 1: in that cultural evolution. Art has lineage, queerness has lineage, 414 00:28:03,840 --> 00:28:07,320 Speaker 1: and Ricky Martin, in my opinion, is an important elder 415 00:28:07,720 --> 00:28:13,200 Speaker 1: in both of those lineages. Maybe a Zaddy elder, but really, 416 00:28:13,440 --> 00:28:16,760 Speaker 1: I think one hundred years from now, Latinos will use 417 00:28:16,880 --> 00:28:22,480 Speaker 1: Ricky Martin's long career arc to understand belonging and history 418 00:28:22,640 --> 00:28:26,600 Speaker 1: in this country. Or actually, I think we can take 419 00:28:26,640 --> 00:28:30,359 Speaker 1: it beyond that. I think Ricky Martin's legacy, as our 420 00:28:30,400 --> 00:28:34,600 Speaker 1: producer Brittany Cronan pointed out to me, shows the evolution 421 00:28:34,760 --> 00:28:40,080 Speaker 1: of Latinos and queer people beyond belonging in the US. 422 00:28:40,800 --> 00:28:44,600 Speaker 1: And the key to understanding this is in Ricky's performance 423 00:28:44,760 --> 00:28:50,120 Speaker 1: of locallyas Hawaii at the super Bowl. This is arguably 424 00:28:50,320 --> 00:28:55,680 Speaker 1: the most high profile anti colonial anthem of our time. 425 00:28:56,440 --> 00:29:00,000 Speaker 1: It's a cry against statehood, it's a rally for resistance, 426 00:29:00,520 --> 00:29:03,760 Speaker 1: and I want to talk about the specific section. Ricky 427 00:29:03,840 --> 00:29:10,720 Speaker 1: sings nosuel te lavandera nilviden elelolai gueno ko kia contigo 428 00:29:11,040 --> 00:29:17,040 Speaker 1: lokes Hawaii. He sings. The lelolai is a traditional vocal 429 00:29:17,120 --> 00:29:22,000 Speaker 1: improvisation sung by Hivarros. The song is imploring Puerto Ricans 430 00:29:22,200 --> 00:29:27,160 Speaker 1: to hold on to cultural specificity, to collective memory, to 431 00:29:27,360 --> 00:29:32,160 Speaker 1: identity as resistance and bad Bunny in the song is 432 00:29:32,240 --> 00:29:36,080 Speaker 1: not asking to belong in or to the United States 433 00:29:36,200 --> 00:29:41,040 Speaker 1: in any way. In fact, loke LEAs Hawaii is the opposite. 434 00:29:41,600 --> 00:29:45,480 Speaker 1: It is saying we do not want to belong, We 435 00:29:45,640 --> 00:29:50,640 Speaker 1: want to hold on to what is ours. And how 436 00:29:50,920 --> 00:29:56,120 Speaker 1: powerful to have Ricky Martin seeing this verse the artists 437 00:29:56,120 --> 00:29:59,360 Speaker 1: who the industry in a way forced to belong to 438 00:29:59,440 --> 00:30:04,280 Speaker 1: the American mainstream, insisting on framing him within these tropes 439 00:30:04,320 --> 00:30:09,800 Speaker 1: of Latinidad had straight Latin lover that flattened his dimensionality. 440 00:30:10,800 --> 00:30:14,000 Speaker 1: But no more. What a joy it is to see 441 00:30:14,120 --> 00:30:18,280 Speaker 1: him break free from those stereotypes. And because he has, 442 00:30:19,040 --> 00:30:22,600 Speaker 1: he has given all of us, including my son, who 443 00:30:22,640 --> 00:30:26,760 Speaker 1: will know who Ricky is, permission to do the same. 444 00:30:27,840 --> 00:30:52,680 Speaker 1: And in this way we all owe Ricky Martin Way 445 00:30:52,720 --> 00:30:55,760 Speaker 1: Excited is written by me Maria Garcia and it's produced 446 00:30:55,800 --> 00:30:59,880 Speaker 1: by Futuro Studios in collaboration with Iheart's Mai Gultura part 447 00:31:00,080 --> 00:31:04,200 Speaker 1: Cast Network. Our senior producer is Marta Martinez. Our associate 448 00:31:04,240 --> 00:31:07,680 Speaker 1: producer is Brittany Cronin, with support for this episode from 449 00:31:07,880 --> 00:31:12,240 Speaker 1: Roxana Aguirre. Our editor is Marlon Bishop. Our production manager 450 00:31:12,360 --> 00:31:17,760 Speaker 1: is Vikgoria Estrada. 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