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Speaker 1: how are you doing? Hey? What's that enough hype for you?

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Speaker 1: Rodney did a good job. Here's this deal. Man. You

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Speaker 1: one of the story I say, story that said legendary

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Speaker 1: you're on the wall down there and the math Ye, Rodney,

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