WEBVTT - Conversations with Kaitlyn Bristowe 0:00:02.160 --> 0:00:06.680 This is Conversations with Olivia Jade and I Heart Radio Podcast. 0:00:07.120 --> 0:00:11.560 Welcome back to another episode of Conversations. Today's guest. If 0:00:11.680 --> 0:00:16.239 you're familiar with the ABC franchise, I think you'll definitely 0:00:16.320 --> 0:00:18.840 know who she is. She's been on Dancing with the Stars, 0:00:18.920 --> 0:00:22.919 she's been on The Bachelor, She's hosted The Bachelorette. Um, 0:00:23.000 --> 0:00:25.720 she's really involved herself in the whole space, and I'm 0:00:25.760 --> 0:00:29.120 so curious from just like the little things to like 0:00:29.160 --> 0:00:31.600 where she started and how she got here. And I 0:00:31.640 --> 0:00:34.480 think probably a lot of you are curious as well 0:00:34.520 --> 0:00:37.479 if you're a fan. So I'm very excited to have 0:00:37.680 --> 0:00:40.960 Caitlin Bristow on the podcast today and I really hope 0:00:41.000 --> 0:00:45.000 you guys enjoyed this episode. Hi, Hi, oh, look how 0:00:45.040 --> 0:00:49.800 cute your background is? Well, yeah, I it's wallpaper and 0:00:49.840 --> 0:00:53.040 a Neon sign and I yeah, it's my little like 0:00:53.240 --> 0:00:56.160 ladies lounge. I call it. I love that. That's so cute. Well, 0:00:56.160 --> 0:00:58.920 welcome to the podcast. Thank you so much for coming on, 0:00:59.520 --> 0:01:01.840 Thank you for having me. Your hair looks great. That color, 0:01:02.000 --> 0:01:04.360 Thank you so much. I just died it and I 0:01:04.400 --> 0:01:09.040 don't know what came over me to thank you that. Um, 0:01:09.080 --> 0:01:11.440 did you just get back from the tour. Did it 0:01:11.480 --> 0:01:15.120 just end? Um? So they got it ended at the 0:01:15.240 --> 0:01:18.240 end of March. Okay, so you've been I've been done 0:01:18.240 --> 0:01:20.399 for a second. Yeah, it feels like it was just 0:01:20.520 --> 0:01:23.679 ended yesterday. But I'm also like, brain fog is so 0:01:23.760 --> 0:01:25.520 real for me right now because I was in Mexico 0:01:25.920 --> 0:01:28.280 and when you get back from vacation, everybody always says 0:01:28.280 --> 0:01:30.440 you need a vacation from a vacation because of that 0:01:30.520 --> 0:01:33.280 kind of vacation. So I don't mind my brain fog today, 0:01:33.440 --> 0:01:36.160 no worries about all. Um, Well, you want to tell 0:01:36.280 --> 0:01:38.640 everybody a little bit about yourself today we have Caitlin 0:01:38.680 --> 0:01:41.800 Bristow on the podcast. I'm so excited and um we 0:01:41.840 --> 0:01:43.920 can just jump right into it. But for those maybe 0:01:43.920 --> 0:01:47.720 who don't know you, Yeah, where you come from everything. 0:01:47.840 --> 0:01:50.920 I come from a teeny tiny little town in Alberta 0:01:50.960 --> 0:01:54.480 called La Duke in Canada, and I grew up there. 0:01:54.640 --> 0:01:57.280 I wanted to be a dancer my whole life. That's 0:01:57.280 --> 0:02:00.080 what my mom was, a professional ballerina. I wanted to 0:02:00.120 --> 0:02:02.320 follow in her footsteps. I had this whole dream of 0:02:02.320 --> 0:02:05.360 being a dancer. I moved to Vancouver, Canada to be 0:02:05.400 --> 0:02:07.960 a part of a dance company. It didn't work out 0:02:08.000 --> 0:02:10.519 for me, and then I was like, well, I guess 0:02:10.520 --> 0:02:12.200 I'm going to pick up my stuff and move with 0:02:12.240 --> 0:02:15.240 my boyfriend, who was a hockey player, very Canadian of me, 0:02:15.639 --> 0:02:17.839 and we moved kind of all over the place, and 0:02:18.000 --> 0:02:21.280 I ended up completely losing myself and it was just 0:02:21.320 --> 0:02:23.880 a shell of myself because I was living somebody else's life. 0:02:24.160 --> 0:02:25.960 And my girlfriend was like, you need to go on 0:02:26.000 --> 0:02:29.440 the Bachelor when because we broke up, obviously, because you 0:02:29.440 --> 0:02:31.000 need to go on the Bachelor. And I was like, 0:02:31.040 --> 0:02:34.000 do they even pick Canadians, like Canadians go on that show? 0:02:34.480 --> 0:02:37.040 And she was like, yeah, they always picked Canadians, and 0:02:37.080 --> 0:02:39.240 so she filled out all the information for me, kind 0:02:39.240 --> 0:02:42.040 of sent in my application and they ended up calling 0:02:42.080 --> 0:02:44.440 me a year later. So I was on Season nineteen 0:02:44.480 --> 0:02:47.600 of The Bachelor, and then I become become became season 0:02:47.639 --> 0:02:50.960 eleven Bachelorette, and then from there I went on to 0:02:50.960 --> 0:02:53.160 start my podcast Off the Vine, and I started a 0:02:53.160 --> 0:02:56.000 wine label called Spade and Sparrows, and I have a 0:02:56.000 --> 0:02:58.520 hair accessory line called Do Edit, and then I ended 0:02:58.600 --> 0:03:01.680 up winning Dancing with the Stars period that as boss 0:03:01.720 --> 0:03:04.200 Woman in a nutshell it's actually so crazy to think though, 0:03:04.240 --> 0:03:08.120 because something like The Bachelor has presented so many opportunities 0:03:08.160 --> 0:03:10.440 and like completely changed your life and you're one of 0:03:10.480 --> 0:03:12.040 like the O G s. I would say, because I 0:03:12.040 --> 0:03:15.480 feel like now the show was so different. Yes, and 0:03:15.600 --> 0:03:18.359 just like because I remember watching like I was always 0:03:18.360 --> 0:03:20.119 an avid fan of the show with my mom. I'd 0:03:20.160 --> 0:03:22.400 like make her, I'd force her to watch it with me, 0:03:22.440 --> 0:03:23.920 and I was like way too young to probably even 0:03:24.000 --> 0:03:27.200 understand what was going on. Um, but I remember your season, 0:03:27.400 --> 0:03:29.320 and then I remember a few seasons after, and then 0:03:29.320 --> 0:03:31.480 obviously with the rise of social media, I feel like 0:03:31.520 --> 0:03:35.080 it changed so much. Yes, but I have so many 0:03:35.240 --> 0:03:38.760 questions about like me just being a super fan, but 0:03:38.840 --> 0:03:42.160 like really like the old school kind of Bachelor vibe 0:03:42.200 --> 0:03:44.560 because I feel like now maybe maybe I'm wrong, but 0:03:44.600 --> 0:03:47.160 I feel like now it's turned into like sometimes people 0:03:47.200 --> 0:03:50.920 go on for maybe hoping like for this world that 0:03:51.160 --> 0:03:53.880 some have created after and I think like when you 0:03:53.920 --> 0:03:56.080 guys all went on it, that was like a genuine 0:03:56.120 --> 0:03:59.040 like it was a dating show. It really was, Yes, 0:03:59.280 --> 0:04:02.000 it was so genuine. I mean I knew that you 0:04:02.040 --> 0:04:04.360 could make a name for yourself, like I knew some 0:04:04.400 --> 0:04:07.120 people went on to like, you know, hosting gigs like 0:04:07.480 --> 0:04:09.840 on E News or whatever, if you know, if that 0:04:09.920 --> 0:04:13.400 was they chose to go that route. But social media 0:04:13.560 --> 0:04:16.680 was not um what it is today. And I genuinely 0:04:16.720 --> 0:04:19.279 went on being like like, if I fall in love, 0:04:19.320 --> 0:04:21.760 that's great. If I build something from it, that's also great. 0:04:21.800 --> 0:04:23.800 But social media was not you know, the way of 0:04:23.839 --> 0:04:25.720 the world that you couldn't build a business or a 0:04:25.760 --> 0:04:28.479 platform the way you can now. You couldn't make money 0:04:28.480 --> 0:04:30.039 off of it. It wasn't like a thing where I 0:04:30.080 --> 0:04:31.720 went on to the show and I was like, I'm 0:04:31.720 --> 0:04:33.760 going to get a bunch of Instagram followers, Like that 0:04:33.800 --> 0:04:36.159 thought never crossed my mind. And I feel like it 0:04:36.200 --> 0:04:39.120 was on my season where social media really kind of 0:04:39.120 --> 0:04:41.880 started to blow up with people following people from the show. 0:04:41.960 --> 0:04:45.560 So it was a wild experience. Did you feel like 0:04:45.600 --> 0:04:47.840 when you were off the show just such a big 0:04:47.839 --> 0:04:50.120 like switch in your world of like walking down the 0:04:50.120 --> 0:04:52.160 street and having people know you now, And was that 0:04:52.200 --> 0:04:56.359 like kind of weird to adjust? It was and it wasn't. 0:04:56.440 --> 0:04:58.520 I don't know why. My parents and my sister and 0:04:58.520 --> 0:05:01.200 everyone always was like, Caitlin, you were out for this lifestyle. 0:05:01.279 --> 0:05:04.240 Like so when like my whole life, I thought I 0:05:04.279 --> 0:05:06.880 was going to be maybe like a backup dancer or 0:05:06.960 --> 0:05:09.680 do movies or TV with dancing. Like I thought I 0:05:09.720 --> 0:05:12.320 was going to do something. Um So when this happened, 0:05:12.320 --> 0:05:14.200 my whole family was kind of like, yeah, of course 0:05:14.320 --> 0:05:16.240 you went on the Bachelor. That's so something you would do, 0:05:16.360 --> 0:05:18.800 that's where And so when it happened, of course it 0:05:18.880 --> 0:05:20.880 was not normal to walk down the street and have 0:05:20.920 --> 0:05:25.280 people recognize me. But it was just like the transition 0:05:25.360 --> 0:05:28.279 was so weird because I would turned from like an 0:05:28.320 --> 0:05:30.599 extrovert into an introvert. And I think that was the 0:05:30.640 --> 0:05:34.480 weirdest transition for me because I was so outgoing. I 0:05:34.560 --> 0:05:37.320 was always out I was always talking everybody, making new friends, 0:05:37.400 --> 0:05:39.880 and everyone would have been like Caitlin's the biggest extrovert. 0:05:40.160 --> 0:05:42.400 And then when I came off the show, it was 0:05:42.440 --> 0:05:46.159 almost like I enjoyed my personal time and my personal 0:05:46.200 --> 0:05:48.600 space and I didn't trust anybody, and it was more 0:05:48.720 --> 0:05:51.240 like that's what changed for me. I actually relate to 0:05:51.279 --> 0:05:53.480 that a lot as well. Obviously I wasn't on The Bachelor, 0:05:53.520 --> 0:05:56.039 but um, I do feel like when like certain parts 0:05:56.080 --> 0:05:58.560 of life and certain aspects get like a little bit 0:05:58.560 --> 0:06:02.800 more public, it comp like made me go the opposite yeah, 0:06:02.920 --> 0:06:05.520 and just want to like keep everything super private and 0:06:05.560 --> 0:06:08.479 not have like that judgment or whatever it is. It's like, 0:06:08.560 --> 0:06:12.320 I think it can even be like subconscious sometimes. For sure, 0:06:12.400 --> 0:06:14.680 I didn't even I didn't even realize I was doing that. 0:06:14.760 --> 0:06:17.520 Like a lot of my close friends. We actually had 0:06:17.560 --> 0:06:20.640 this whole debate one time with Jason, my fiance, was like, oh, 0:06:20.680 --> 0:06:22.680 Caitlin is such an introvert. And then it was with 0:06:22.720 --> 0:06:24.280 all of my friends who have known me for so long, 0:06:24.320 --> 0:06:27.640 and they're like, she's not. She's actually an extrovert, but 0:06:27.720 --> 0:06:30.400 this situation has made her go inwards, like and we 0:06:30.440 --> 0:06:32.880 had this whole debate about it because I would have 0:06:32.920 --> 0:06:34.840 thought after I came off of a TV show, I 0:06:34.839 --> 0:06:38.080 would have loved like meeting new people and being like, 0:06:38.120 --> 0:06:40.839 oh my god, yeah, like take a photo. Yeah. I 0:06:40.880 --> 0:06:44.479 thought I would be like so comfortable with that. Um. 0:06:44.520 --> 0:06:47.440 But weirdly, yeah, I went inward and obviously you can 0:06:47.520 --> 0:06:50.440 understand that, yeah totally. And then you were the bachelorette. 0:06:51.640 --> 0:06:56.479 How was that experience? So weird? Dating like so many 0:06:56.520 --> 0:06:59.719 guys at once and having to choose it feels so 0:07:00.120 --> 0:07:02.839 wrong because you would never do that in the outside world, 0:07:02.880 --> 0:07:05.440 but you really have to compartmentalize, like, Okay, this is 0:07:05.480 --> 0:07:08.080 not the outside world. This is a TV show, So 0:07:08.160 --> 0:07:09.840 you've got to make TV and you've got to make 0:07:09.880 --> 0:07:12.720 good TV. Um, but you also are trying to find love, 0:07:12.760 --> 0:07:15.360 and that is a real thing. And it was you know, 0:07:15.400 --> 0:07:18.040 I went my whole life not knowing how. You know, 0:07:18.120 --> 0:07:20.400 I've never been on a reality TV show before. I've 0:07:20.400 --> 0:07:24.400 never experienced television, so it was I I went onto 0:07:24.400 --> 0:07:27.679 The Bachelor like pretty naive, and you know, I didn't 0:07:27.720 --> 0:07:30.400 understand that producers had to make a TV show, whereas 0:07:30.480 --> 0:07:32.720 when I was a bachelorette, I was like, okay, like 0:07:33.000 --> 0:07:35.320 let's make some good TV and let's fall in love. 0:07:35.360 --> 0:07:38.680 And that was like the most dangerous combination because I 0:07:38.760 --> 0:07:41.800 ended up, you know, hurting so many people's feelings and um, 0:07:42.000 --> 0:07:46.040 losing people's trust and constantly disappointing everybody, and then just 0:07:46.480 --> 0:07:50.000 ended up being so hard on myself because the thing 0:07:50.000 --> 0:07:52.160 that I hate the most in life is disappointing people 0:07:52.200 --> 0:07:53.800 I care about, and that's what I felt like. I 0:07:53.840 --> 0:07:56.840 just constantly was doing well. People were judging me for it. 0:07:56.960 --> 0:07:59.640 But looking back now, I mean, it's been so many 0:07:59.720 --> 0:08:03.080 years is that I would have said, like, it was hell. 0:08:03.200 --> 0:08:05.280 It was really honestly hell for me to go through that, 0:08:05.640 --> 0:08:08.920 But I would do it all over again. And I 0:08:08.960 --> 0:08:11.280 just think, like, it's like you said earlier, It's gotten 0:08:11.280 --> 0:08:13.680 me so many opportunities and I feel like I'm just 0:08:13.760 --> 0:08:16.920 able to live the life that I'm like, I love 0:08:17.000 --> 0:08:19.640 doing podcasting, I love having a wine label, and I 0:08:19.640 --> 0:08:22.800 wouldn't have had that without the show. So um years later, 0:08:22.880 --> 0:08:25.040 I'm able to look back at it with like, see 0:08:25.080 --> 0:08:27.960 the positives. Yeah, yeah, for sure, I know, but I 0:08:27.960 --> 0:08:30.240 feel like, also, that's not really your fault. You did 0:08:30.640 --> 0:08:33.439 have like literally you had to date all the different guys, 0:08:33.480 --> 0:08:35.800 So I mean that's the format of the show. I 0:08:35.920 --> 0:08:39.280 had fun for the first Yeah, it was fun for 0:08:39.320 --> 0:08:41.600 the first like a few weeks, because you know, you've 0:08:41.600 --> 0:08:43.720 got a bunch of good looking dudes and they're all like, 0:08:44.120 --> 0:08:46.920 oh my god, Caitlin, and they put you on the pedestal. 0:08:47.120 --> 0:08:48.880 And then after a while you're like, oh, ship, this 0:08:48.960 --> 0:08:51.400 gets really real. Yeah. Then you actually start to like 0:08:51.520 --> 0:08:53.880 feel for these people, and like, even if it's not 0:08:53.920 --> 0:08:55.760 like in an in love way, you're like, well, I 0:08:55.760 --> 0:08:57.280 still care and I don't want to hurt you because 0:08:57.320 --> 0:08:59.720 I'm the same way. I like hate disappointing people. I 0:08:59.720 --> 0:09:02.800 would I think I've hurt anybody's feelings. I'm like so 0:09:02.880 --> 0:09:04.760 messed up over it. I feel so bad, So I 0:09:04.800 --> 0:09:12.079 cannot imagine doing that. And then after Bachelorette time has 0:09:12.120 --> 0:09:16.960 gone on living life, you end up posting the Double 0:09:17.080 --> 0:09:21.800 Bachelorette season, right, Yes, that was Yes? How was that? 0:09:21.880 --> 0:09:23.720 It was that weird? And how did that come about? 0:09:23.800 --> 0:09:26.760 And then like, not why you because you're amazing, but 0:09:27.000 --> 0:09:30.040 did you stay connected with the franchise to that when 0:09:30.200 --> 0:09:33.160 obviously Chris Harrison had to leave, Like, I'm just so 0:09:33.200 --> 0:09:36.199 curious about how that came about. I still am kind 0:09:36.200 --> 0:09:38.319 of curious about how that all played out, because I 0:09:39.240 --> 0:09:41.440 keep thinking, like, how did I get Like what turn 0:09:41.520 --> 0:09:43.560 did I take in life that I was, you know, 0:09:43.720 --> 0:09:47.160 taking over a role that was such an important role 0:09:47.200 --> 0:09:50.959 and some and one that had been you know, the 0:09:51.320 --> 0:09:53.680 role that has been filled for so long by the 0:09:53.720 --> 0:09:56.520 same consistent person who was so good at his job 0:09:56.640 --> 0:09:59.120 and everyone knew he was the face of the franchise. 0:09:59.160 --> 0:10:02.560 And so it was interesting because I did keep in 0:10:02.600 --> 0:10:05.520 test with so many people from you know, the show 0:10:05.559 --> 0:10:08.840 producers or certain people I had like bad blood with 0:10:08.880 --> 0:10:12.320 because I felt manipulated. Um but you know, we all 0:10:12.520 --> 0:10:15.160 after time and healing, you can come around and see 0:10:15.320 --> 0:10:17.640 that they were just doing their jobs. But um so 0:10:17.679 --> 0:10:21.080 I kept to touch with certain people and then I 0:10:21.240 --> 0:10:23.960 kind of was like I felt like maybe even a 0:10:24.000 --> 0:10:26.920 bit blacklisted from the show after for a while because 0:10:26.920 --> 0:10:28.840 I was so bitter and I'm a very like honest 0:10:28.840 --> 0:10:31.160 person who speaks my mind about everything, and I probably 0:10:31.160 --> 0:10:33.200 said a little too much and they were like, well, 0:10:33.440 --> 0:10:35.800 don't bite the hand that feeds you, like we'll show 0:10:35.840 --> 0:10:37.839 you kind of thing. And so it was a bit 0:10:37.880 --> 0:10:40.520 of like shock like butting heads for a little while 0:10:40.559 --> 0:10:43.040 after that. But I think after, you know, after I 0:10:43.080 --> 0:10:46.079 broke up with my past relationship from the show, I 0:10:46.160 --> 0:10:49.480 realized how much of a platform that was for me 0:10:49.559 --> 0:10:52.160 to live a life that I wanted to live and 0:10:52.200 --> 0:10:54.160 then kind of got back in the good books. And 0:10:55.160 --> 0:10:57.160 I was so shocked because when they called me to 0:10:57.200 --> 0:10:59.800 do that, I was like, is it a hosting role? 0:10:59.800 --> 0:11:02.040 And are like, we're not really sure what it's gonna 0:11:02.040 --> 0:11:04.040 look like, like they're kind of trying to figure it 0:11:04.040 --> 0:11:06.600 out as time goes on, too, so they were like, 0:11:06.640 --> 0:11:10.240 it's kind of like a mentor role, ummun Tasia would 0:11:10.320 --> 0:11:13.000 kind of go in and, you know, help with the 0:11:13.000 --> 0:11:15.600 bachelorette and talk her through some things that only a 0:11:15.600 --> 0:11:18.360 handful of people that could do, you know, women having 0:11:18.400 --> 0:11:21.199 conversations that they couldn't have with Chris Harrison. But it's 0:11:21.240 --> 0:11:25.600 more of a mentor role, not um not host. And 0:11:25.600 --> 0:11:27.160 then we got there and we were doing the show 0:11:27.160 --> 0:11:29.120 and I'm like, well, this is definitely hosting, Like we're 0:11:29.200 --> 0:11:32.120 doing the final here's the final rows and going in 0:11:32.160 --> 0:11:34.400 for the certain parts and like tinking the glass to 0:11:34.480 --> 0:11:40.679 be like okay giving out there. So then the next season, 0:11:40.720 --> 0:11:42.520 I was like, Okay, we're hosting. So then I got 0:11:42.520 --> 0:11:45.160 it in my head that like we could potentially be 0:11:45.320 --> 0:11:47.760 hosts of the show, and I thought it made so 0:11:47.840 --> 0:11:50.760 much sense because if I had a woman that was 0:11:50.800 --> 0:11:53.320 helping me there, that had been in my shoes before, 0:11:54.160 --> 0:11:57.000 that would have well, I mean, it might have changed everything. 0:11:57.040 --> 0:11:59.400 So it wasn't a good idea, but I feel like 0:11:59.480 --> 0:12:02.480 it just would helped mentally so much more to have 0:12:02.559 --> 0:12:06.000 someone empower you and validate your insecurities and everything that 0:12:06.040 --> 0:12:08.880 you're going through. So um, I just kind of had 0:12:08.880 --> 0:12:11.480 now put my head in the space of like, oh, 0:12:11.520 --> 0:12:13.559 maybe I could potentially host this, So it was a 0:12:13.600 --> 0:12:16.520 little sad when they didn't go with us again and Bachelorette, 0:12:16.559 --> 0:12:23.160 but I get having a consistent host and but yeah, 0:12:23.320 --> 0:12:26.760 I agree with the heck um no, but that's amazing. 0:12:26.760 --> 0:12:29.720 You guys did a really great job on that. I'll 0:12:29.760 --> 0:12:32.319 stop about The Bachelor now because you have so many 0:12:32.360 --> 0:12:51.559 other things, just super fan. We obviously both did Dancing 0:12:51.559 --> 0:12:53.959 with the Stars. You won Dancing with the Stars, which 0:12:54.040 --> 0:12:55.920 is so exciting and I feel like a lot of 0:12:55.960 --> 0:12:58.640 people unless you've been on the show. And I was 0:12:58.679 --> 0:13:01.000 talking about this recently with some buddy who was at 0:13:01.640 --> 0:13:03.720 a dinner with me and we had like started talking 0:13:03.800 --> 0:13:05.600 randomly and she was like, I had a Dancing with 0:13:05.600 --> 0:13:07.800 the Stars and like randomly came up, and I was like, 0:13:08.120 --> 0:13:13.600 people don't understand how tiring that show is and how 0:13:13.679 --> 0:13:18.240 much work goes into it and you want it. It 0:13:18.440 --> 0:13:22.520 is literally the definition of blood, sweat and tears. Like 0:13:22.960 --> 0:13:28.280 you put everything into it mentally, physically, emotionally. It's so 0:13:28.960 --> 0:13:32.080 draining and so much work and so many hours of 0:13:32.120 --> 0:13:35.760 your day. Like people really don't know until there unless 0:13:35.760 --> 0:13:38.040 they've been on the show, Like how much work you 0:13:38.120 --> 0:13:40.600 put into it, and I just remember, like in the 0:13:40.679 --> 0:13:43.160 last three weeks of it, I was like, send me home, 0:13:43.200 --> 0:13:46.120 I can't do this anymore. But you know, I'm I 0:13:46.160 --> 0:13:47.840 would be like with then I'd get on the dance 0:13:47.840 --> 0:13:50.280 floor and be like, I can't go home. But like 0:13:50.400 --> 0:13:53.840 my ribs were injured, my ankle was injured. I was 0:13:53.920 --> 0:13:56.800 just like in pain the whole time. And I just 0:13:56.920 --> 0:13:59.880 like had that mentality of like you just gotta get 0:13:59.920 --> 0:14:01.800 to another day and then the next decade, and you 0:14:01.880 --> 0:14:03.840 just got to get through another day. But yeah, and 0:14:03.880 --> 0:14:05.720 you did so great on the show. You were one 0:14:05.760 --> 0:14:07.760 of our favorites. You're so sweet. Thank you. I was 0:14:07.840 --> 0:14:10.880 so nervous because I've never danced before, so I was like, 0:14:11.320 --> 0:14:14.559 I don't know if this show, if this could be, 0:14:14.679 --> 0:14:16.720 this could do the exact opposite. I want people to 0:14:16.760 --> 0:14:19.200 like see my personality, but like what if I had 0:14:19.240 --> 0:14:21.720 just come across and it's so embarrassing and I can't dance. 0:14:21.760 --> 0:14:24.120 But I honestly had so much fun doing it that 0:14:24.160 --> 0:14:27.800 I like made it worth it. But you know what's 0:14:27.800 --> 0:14:30.200 funny too, I remember, like you know how they make 0:14:30.240 --> 0:14:33.800 you do those interviews after like every probably twice a week, 0:14:33.880 --> 0:14:35.320 or something where you go in and then you sit 0:14:35.360 --> 0:14:37.080 there for hours and then you leave and then you 0:14:37.080 --> 0:14:39.160 go back to practice or whatever it was. I missed 0:14:39.200 --> 0:14:41.200 one of them one time, my agents calling me like 0:14:41.480 --> 0:14:43.680 where are you. They're all like they have to leave whatever, 0:14:43.720 --> 0:14:46.680 and I just remember like sobbing on my bed. I 0:14:46.720 --> 0:14:50.280 was so stressed. I was like, no, I can't do it, 0:14:50.360 --> 0:14:55.840 like I'm tired, and it's brutal. It really is. It 0:14:55.960 --> 0:14:59.680 really is a brutal process that's obviously like you get 0:14:59.720 --> 0:15:01.360 so much out of it, and then when it's just 0:15:01.440 --> 0:15:03.440 finished and then you go home, you're like, it was 0:15:03.480 --> 0:15:06.240 such a whirlwind and it changes your whole life in perspective, 0:15:06.280 --> 0:15:08.520 and you like feel like you've accomplished so much, and 0:15:08.520 --> 0:15:10.760 then it just ends so abruptly and then you're like 0:15:10.840 --> 0:15:13.400 what just happened? And then literally would would never do 0:15:13.520 --> 0:15:15.400 something like that again. But then you miss you know, 0:15:15.480 --> 0:15:18.520 your partner and everybody around and the Monday nights it's 0:15:18.560 --> 0:15:22.880 so far you partners with again Artom Artom right, he's 0:15:22.960 --> 0:15:25.200 so lovely. And then when you when you were going 0:15:25.240 --> 0:15:27.480 on tour, where you like hesitant at all or was 0:15:27.520 --> 0:15:32.840 it just like I'm down zero hesitation? I because because 0:15:32.840 --> 0:15:35.080 of my passion for dance my whole life. I was like, 0:15:35.160 --> 0:15:36.720 if you told me I was going to tour on 0:15:36.760 --> 0:15:40.240 a tour bus, dancing with professionals, like in different cities 0:15:40.280 --> 0:15:42.360 on a bus, I was like, this is a dream 0:15:42.440 --> 0:15:45.440 come true. So um yeah, zero hesitation. I was like, 0:15:45.440 --> 0:15:47.120 sign me up, I'll do the whole tour. How was 0:15:47.160 --> 0:15:48.680 the tour because you got to be with like 'm 0:15:48.760 --> 0:15:51.400 On and Amanda and some people from my season who 0:15:51.480 --> 0:15:54.920 I adore. Also, how funny is them? On? He is 0:15:56.000 --> 0:15:57.880 He's one of my favorite people I've ever come across 0:15:58.000 --> 0:16:02.240 my whole life. Here just the happiest, funniest, most chill, 0:16:02.480 --> 0:16:05.920 laid back, coolest, Like I just we ended up bonding 0:16:06.000 --> 0:16:08.760 so much because we were always backstage, like not in 0:16:08.840 --> 0:16:11.240 all of the dances, so we would learn the choreography 0:16:11.280 --> 0:16:14.720 together backstage and like do hilarious versions of the show. 0:16:14.760 --> 0:16:17.120 But yeah, it was so fun being on tour. I 0:16:17.200 --> 0:16:20.320 truly thought it would be way harder than it was. 0:16:20.400 --> 0:16:24.280 I thought, you know, being away, um on a bus, 0:16:24.440 --> 0:16:26.480 sleeping on a bus every night, trying to podcast and 0:16:26.560 --> 0:16:28.440 run my business as while being on the road. Like 0:16:28.720 --> 0:16:30.560 it was hard. Of course, don't get me wrong, but 0:16:30.640 --> 0:16:33.200 I loved every second of it so much because I 0:16:33.240 --> 0:16:36.760 got along so well with everybody and there was no 0:16:36.840 --> 0:16:42.320 drama and it was just surprisingly like easy and and 0:16:42.520 --> 0:16:45.160 fun and we just like bonded. It felt like family. 0:16:45.280 --> 0:16:47.920 And um, I missed the bus nights so much, not 0:16:48.000 --> 0:16:51.560 the sleeping part, but like the bonding, game nights, drinking wine, 0:16:51.760 --> 0:16:54.320 all those kinds of things. Yeah, I feel like also 0:16:54.400 --> 0:16:56.760 with at least with my season, and I'm sure it's 0:16:56.760 --> 0:16:59.600 similar to you as well, Like you get so close 0:16:59.800 --> 0:17:02.160 with everybody on the show at the time, just because 0:17:02.160 --> 0:17:04.600 like everybody feels like they really understand what each one 0:17:04.680 --> 0:17:07.400 is going through, and like, I feel so lucky with 0:17:07.520 --> 0:17:09.439 the people I had on my season because I'm like 0:17:09.480 --> 0:17:12.040 somewhere like posing age with me, and then some were 0:17:12.080 --> 0:17:14.880 just like such great mentors to have around. And then 0:17:15.240 --> 0:17:17.879 we had like me Laura, who was like mom figure 0:17:17.920 --> 0:17:19.760 to me, and then like a mom who I would 0:17:19.760 --> 0:17:22.080 like just hang with most of my time. And then 0:17:22.080 --> 0:17:24.800 I had Jokeo, who was like a little sister, adorable, 0:17:24.840 --> 0:17:27.880 fun to be around. So you did have a good 0:17:27.880 --> 0:17:30.000 season of people. I remember being like, oh, that looks 0:17:30.040 --> 0:17:33.520 like fun, and everybody like what's crazy is it's so competitive, 0:17:33.560 --> 0:17:36.480 but everybody's also rooting for each other because you know, 0:17:36.560 --> 0:17:39.080 like you said, what you're going through. And so it's 0:17:39.119 --> 0:17:42.720 such a unique atmosphere because I'm the most competitive person 0:17:43.040 --> 0:17:45.320 going like I need to check myself even in my 0:17:45.359 --> 0:17:49.119 relationship sometimes because I'm so competitive. And so for me 0:17:49.160 --> 0:17:51.000 it was so interesting because I was like, Wow, I'm 0:17:51.000 --> 0:17:53.480 really like rooting for the people that are up against me. 0:17:53.880 --> 0:17:56.000 And it's because you you do. You just understand what 0:17:56.040 --> 0:17:57.800 you're going through and it becomes a family. But I 0:17:57.840 --> 0:18:00.600 will say our season was so different from any other 0:18:00.600 --> 0:18:04.040 one because ours was right like covid D and we 0:18:04.119 --> 0:18:07.840 couldn't even hang out with each other, like it was nuts. Yeah, 0:18:07.880 --> 0:18:10.160 I think ours we were supposed to not hang out 0:18:10.160 --> 0:18:12.200 with one another and they would like try and be strict. 0:18:12.200 --> 0:18:14.320 But I think also by that time it was kind 0:18:14.359 --> 0:18:17.320 of like a free for all um, so it kind 0:18:17.320 --> 0:18:19.280 of worked out. But when you were on tour, was 0:18:19.320 --> 0:18:22.320 it hard being away from obviously like Jason and I 0:18:22.680 --> 0:18:25.360 saw you have two dogs. Yes, oh my gosh, they're 0:18:26.160 --> 0:18:29.000 right now. It was really hard to be away from them. 0:18:29.000 --> 0:18:32.119 But this is not really a good thing. But I 0:18:32.280 --> 0:18:34.480 was prepped for it because of filming back to back 0:18:34.520 --> 0:18:37.879 Bachelor at seasons and from being Dancing with the Stars, 0:18:37.880 --> 0:18:41.560 Like we were kind of in this mentality that we're like, oh, 0:18:41.640 --> 0:18:44.239 we get to miss each other and we'll like you know. 0:18:44.400 --> 0:18:46.960 But but that being said, it was actually really hard. 0:18:47.040 --> 0:18:48.960 And we're supposed to be planning a wedding and when 0:18:48.960 --> 0:18:51.520 I came back, he was gone on a book tour 0:18:51.720 --> 0:18:54.679 and we've kind of been like, gosh, we need to 0:18:54.720 --> 0:18:57.760 reconnect because we want to plan this wedding and we 0:18:57.800 --> 0:19:00.760 are so disconnected from being apart and being so busy 0:19:00.840 --> 0:19:03.320 that now that I mean, he's coming home tonight from 0:19:03.320 --> 0:19:05.840 New York and we're like, let's just like sit down 0:19:05.840 --> 0:19:08.560 and talk because we have not been able to do that. 0:19:08.680 --> 0:19:10.639 So it's also like so hard I feel like in 0:19:10.640 --> 0:19:13.280 a relationship too, because it's so much about like spending 0:19:13.320 --> 0:19:17.080 that quality time and like keeping the romance alive. Yeah, no, 0:19:17.280 --> 0:19:19.800 that that went out the window for us because we 0:19:19.800 --> 0:19:24.080 were just both so busy and then realized how important 0:19:24.119 --> 0:19:26.520