WEBVTT - There's A Moron

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<v Speaker 1>Broadcasting live from the Abraham Lincoln Radio Studio at the

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<v Speaker 1>George Washington Broadcast Center.

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<v Speaker 2>Jack Armstrong and Joe Getty. Armstrong and Getty.

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<v Speaker 3>And now, here's Armstrong and Getty.

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<v Speaker 4>And you boys ought to be awfully proud to know

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<v Speaker 4>that you're the first ever Milwaukee Brewer team.

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<v Speaker 2>To be world champion.

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<v Speaker 5>So this is a non-sports comment about the Milwaukee Brewers

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<v Speaker 5>winning the World Series last night.

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<v Speaker 2>Pat Murphy, their manager, got his.

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<v Speaker 5>First full-time Major League Baseball managing job at age 64.

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<v Speaker 3>Wow.

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<v Speaker 5>And was National League Manager of the Year that year

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<v Speaker 5>and the next year and won the World Series last night.

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<v Speaker 2>Right.

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<v Speaker 5>But he'd been chasing that job his entire post-playing career,

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<v Speaker 5>and they.

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<v Speaker 3>Get it until he was in his mid-60s. Rejected over

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<v Speaker 3>and over again.

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<v Speaker 2>Wow. You know, it's never too late. Or something. Until

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<v Speaker 2>it is. Until it is. Oh, so exciting.

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<v Speaker 5>Or it's idiotic to take your golden years and continue

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<v Speaker 5>to chase a dream that clearly is not meant for you.

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<v Speaker 2>The trick is knowing which. Exactly.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah. Like Churchill said, never, never, never give up. Unless

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<v Speaker 3>you're one of those American Idol contestants who suck.

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<v Speaker 2>And you really ought to.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>You're never going to be.

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<v Speaker 3>It's an honorable profession.

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<v Speaker 5>You're not going to make your living as a professional singer,

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<v Speaker 5>which is fine.

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<v Speaker 2>Do something else.

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<v Speaker 5>That's the problem with a lot of those things is

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<v Speaker 5>that the saying of if you're going the wrong direction.

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<v Speaker 2>The best thing you can do is turn around and

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<v Speaker 2>go the other direction. Correct, yes. That's progress.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 3>Well, that's the trick in knowing, though. If you are

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<v Speaker 3>a Pat Murphy, never, never, never give up.

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<v Speaker 5>So we'll go big a little bit later, maybe even

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<v Speaker 5>this hour, on the Alaska story. So the New York

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<v Speaker 5>Times breaks the story that the extra Dan Sullivan, you know,

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<v Speaker 5>it's always good to keep an extra around in case

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<v Speaker 5>you need it.

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<v Speaker 2>Decoy Dan!

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<v Speaker 5>In Alaska was on purpose. Yeah, no freaking kidding. But

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<v Speaker 5>so the New York Times, that was an exclusive. Here's

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<v Speaker 5>their big exclusive today. NVIDIA chief seen as target of

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<v Speaker 5>Chinese spy plot. So, oh, Wang with the cool leather

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<v Speaker 5>jackets running the most valuable company in the world. And

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<v Speaker 5>more importantly than that, NVIDIA has the best chips in

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<v Speaker 5>the world that everybody wants, including China, for, you know,

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<v Speaker 5>the big AI wars that are going to take over

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<v Speaker 5>the world. And it turns out this very attractive Chinese

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<v Speaker 5>woman named Alice Wang.

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<v Speaker 3>Hey, China, get some more names. You need more names.

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<v Speaker 3>Everybody's named Lee and Wang. You can't have, it's hard

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<v Speaker 3>to follow these stories. Sounds like racism to me, Round Eye.

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<v Speaker 3>They're not relatives or married or anything like that. He

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<v Speaker 3>was just, it just keeps saying a close relationship. All right,

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<v Speaker 3>whatever that is.

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<v Speaker 5>Turned out she's a Chinese citizen. She had been funneling

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<v Speaker 5>intelligence information to Beijing for a long time, and they're

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<v Speaker 5>not exactly sure what.

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<v Speaker 2>Mr.

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<v Speaker 5>Wang, one of the most powerful figures in the AI revolution,

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<v Speaker 5>was unaware of this, obviously. The White House was tipped

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<v Speaker 5>off on this last year. Trump was briefed about the

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<v Speaker 5>intelligence findings, which have not previously been reported in the media,

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<v Speaker 5>and chose not to do anything with the information. Now,

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<v Speaker 5>this is the New York Times take on this, although

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<v Speaker 5>it rings true to me.

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<v Speaker 2>Mr.

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<v Speaker 5>Trump has been wary of disrupting NVIDIA's chip sales, which

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<v Speaker 5>are driving the economy in the stock market.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, yeah.

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<v Speaker 3>Well, letting a guy know, hey, your squeeze is not

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<v Speaker 3>what she seems to be probably wouldn't disrupt the market,

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<v Speaker 3>would it? I mean, I don't get the part that

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<v Speaker 3>would be that disruptive, but clearly I'm missing something. His

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<v Speaker 3>girlfriend is funneling secrets to the Chinese government. You don't

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<v Speaker 3>think that might change stock market thinking about how valuable

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<v Speaker 3>and unique NVIDIA chips are if you feel like China

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<v Speaker 3>now has that technology and can start selling them too?

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<v Speaker 2>Sure, yeah.

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<v Speaker 3>I'd want to know a lot more about how significant

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<v Speaker 3>the leaks were, but my takeaway, as if I needed

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<v Speaker 3>to take this away, is any Chinese citizen or any

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<v Speaker 3>human who has family they care about who is a

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<v Speaker 3>Chinese citizen, is a potential tool of the Chinese Communist Party.

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<v Speaker 2>Always, every day, never forget.

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<v Speaker 5>So this New York Times article is based on interviews

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<v Speaker 5>with people briefed on the surveillance who spoke on the

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<v Speaker 5>condition of anonymity, as usual. American officials had already suspected

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<v Speaker 5>that Ms. Wang was helping China evade constraints on its

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<v Speaker 5>ability to gain access to advanced AI chips, which ain't good.

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<v Speaker 5>But the revelation that she was feeding information directly to

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<v Speaker 5>Beijing raised more troubling possibilities, including that Mr. Wang had

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<v Speaker 5>insights into Mr. Trump's thinking on an issue of vital

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<v Speaker 5>importance to both nations, one likely to come up when

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<v Speaker 5>the president visits China next month.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh, my gosh.

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<v Speaker 3>The number of contacts he's had with Trump and the

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<v Speaker 3>whole leadership team. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>Wow. Mr.

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<v Speaker 5>Wang has not received a defensive briefing warning sometimes given

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<v Speaker 5>to Americans who are being targeted by foreign intelligence services.

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<v Speaker 5>People briefed with the surveillance. So the New York Times

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<v Speaker 5>is beyond hinting that the Trump administration could have done

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<v Speaker 5>more to warn Wang, Mr.

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<v Speaker 2>Wang, not Mrs. Wang, because they're both named Wang. Or

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<v Speaker 2>go with first names. That'd be a good idea.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 5>And I mentioned last week, I guess, for the super

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<v Speaker 5>cool and hip people, you only call him by his

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<v Speaker 5>first name anyway. He's one of those first-name people like Elon.

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<v Speaker 5>I find that so annoying, but go ahead. NVIDIA said

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<v Speaker 5>that the company employed Ms. Wang was like any other

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<v Speaker 5>regional customer that had previously investigated and bugged claims that

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<v Speaker 5>the blah, blah, blah, blah, blah. So NVIDIA is denying this,

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<v Speaker 5>I guess, which you do, especially if you don't want

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<v Speaker 5>the stock to drop all.

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<v Speaker 2>Of a sudden, I suppose.

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<v Speaker 5>Anyway, it'll be interesting to see more information that comes

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<v Speaker 5>out on that whole story. It's very troubling and has

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<v Speaker 5>been for a very long time that the United States

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<v Speaker 5>is far and away the innovator in practically everything. Golf

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<v Speaker 5>club technology, computers, cell phones, computer chips. We're the best

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<v Speaker 5>at everything.

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<v Speaker 3>AI, everything.

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<v Speaker 2>Fighter jets.

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<v Speaker 3>Yes.

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<v Speaker 2>Fighter jets. All kinds of weapons systems.

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<v Speaker 3>We're the best at that in the world by far

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<v Speaker 3>because of our system where the smart people come here

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<v Speaker 3>and less regulation.

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<v Speaker 2>And blah, blah, blah, blah, blah.

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<v Speaker 3>But then we let our number one enemy on earth

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<v Speaker 3>steal it right away. skip all the hard part and

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<v Speaker 3>have exactly the same thing. They got a fighter jet

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<v Speaker 3>that is same as our fighter jet. We should have been,

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<v Speaker 3>we should have had the dominant fighter plane on planet

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<v Speaker 3>earth for decades before anybody could catch up to us. Nope.

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<v Speaker 2>They stole all the technology and caught up to us

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<v Speaker 2>right away.

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<v Speaker 3>Our naivete, our naivete in engaging with China from the

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<v Speaker 3>Nixon administration on and getting addicted to cheap Chinese crap

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<v Speaker 3>in our markets and our households and our lives is,

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<v Speaker 3>It's one of the great geopolitical miscalculations in human history.

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<v Speaker 3>And it was absolutely deliberately planned by the Chinese from

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<v Speaker 3>the beginning. Read the 100-year marathon by Michael Pillsbury.

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<v Speaker 2>Is that it? Yeah, it's... Whoops. Yeah, whoops.

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<v Speaker 5>So NVIDIA's got the best, fastest chips that drive the

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<v Speaker 5>whole AI thing, and now hopefully China doesn't have a

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<v Speaker 5>lot of the information you need to make the same chips.

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<v Speaker 3>And she tried to reach Nelson through his... I'm not

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<v Speaker 3>saying it's unfortunate and childish.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh, you're right, it is. Yeah, yeah. Anyway, yeah. Wow, wow, wow. Hey,

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<v Speaker 2>there's this hot young girl who's really wanting me. Chinese citizen.

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<v Speaker 2>Really took a shine into you. Weirdly, weirdly, she's just

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<v Speaker 2>Chinese as it turns out. Isn't that funny? She's such

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<v Speaker 2>a sweetheart. I can't wait till you meet her.

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<v Speaker 3>Oh, Lord.

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<v Speaker 2>God dang it, people.

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<v Speaker 3>There's not some nice statuette Swedish blonde you're interested in?

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<v Speaker 3>You're kind of a silver-haired fox guy anyway, and you're

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<v Speaker 3>one of the most richest people on Earth.

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<v Speaker 2>Can't you get a girlfriend who's not a Chinese spy?

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>You'd think, you know, his dating pool would be fairly extensive.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>How about weed out Chinese spies?

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<v Speaker 3>Boy, Eric Swalwell is nodding sadly in his home right

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<v Speaker 3>now listening to us.

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<v Speaker 2>Tell me about it, he's thinking. I'm saying, yeah. I mean,

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<v Speaker 2>come on.

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<v Speaker 5>Your Bumble profile, you should just put on there. Jensen, like,

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<v Speaker 5>turn offs, turn offs. Communist Party members.

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<v Speaker 3>Right.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>Don't even call. Yeah. Don't swipe. Whatever. I don't know

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<v Speaker 2>how it works.

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<v Speaker 5>People are putting no MAGA on there or whatever for

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<v Speaker 5>their profiles. He needs to put on there no communist spies.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, dang it. It's an oversight. What are you going

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<v Speaker 2>to do? He's busy running the company.

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<v Speaker 3>Oh, speaking of foreigners on the run, have you followed

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<v Speaker 3>the Bolsonaro story out of Brazil?

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<v Speaker 2>They just had, you know, we.

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<v Speaker 3>are so headed for this with the lawfare culture that's.

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<v Speaker 2>Going on right now.

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<v Speaker 3>The guy almost wins the presidency a couple of nights ago,

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<v Speaker 3>but the winners, the left-wing strongman, what's his name, Lalo

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<v Speaker 3>or Taco or whatever his name is, while he's a

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<v Speaker 3>left-wing strongman, he's going to arrest Bolsonaro and charge him

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<v Speaker 3>with all sorts of crimes, real and imagined.

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<v Speaker 2>So you lose the election.

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<v Speaker 3>You have to flee over land to, what was it, Ecuador?

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<v Speaker 3>And then he jumped on a private jet and now

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<v Speaker 3>he's in Miami because he's friendly with the Trump family.

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<v Speaker 3>So you lose the election, you have to flee the country.

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<v Speaker 3>And we're close to that. There are folks, we reported

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<v Speaker 3>this a week or so ago, all over D.C., everybody

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<v Speaker 3>involved in the administration is getting lawyered up for when

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<v Speaker 3>and if the Democrats take the House and the Senate

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<v Speaker 3>because it's going to become lawfare mania again. I accuse

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<v Speaker 3>the Democrats of really starting the modern lawfare, trying to

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<v Speaker 3>prosecute Trump for ridiculous imagined crap. And then the Trump

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<v Speaker 3>administration is gleefully joined in the fray and is prosecuting

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<v Speaker 3>everybody that's in their sights, including ridiculously, and Comey's a villain.

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<v Speaker 3>But this latest one, indicting Comey, it's just, it's a joke. Um,

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<v Speaker 3>so how, how far till we're in banana Republic zones

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<v Speaker 3>and then, then, but you know, throwing people in jail,

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<v Speaker 3>you don't hold a, uh, Hey, it was a great effort. Sorry.

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<v Speaker 3>We lost a rally or speech or whatever you flee

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<v Speaker 3>for your lives.

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<v Speaker 4>Nice.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I know.

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<v Speaker 5>We can dig into the economic numbers that came out today.

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<v Speaker 5>I guarantee you Donald Trump and the Republicans are happy

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<v Speaker 5>about it because it's pretty strong overall GDP growth.

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<v Speaker 2>But did they exceed expectations? And plenty of other stuff

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<v Speaker 2>that we can get into. Stay here. Armstrong and Getty.

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<v Speaker 3>Apple's new foldable iPhone is cracking after just days or

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<v Speaker 3>hours of use.

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<v Speaker 5>The situation is so bad, several teenagers actually looked up

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<v Speaker 5>from their phones. Speaking of things cracking, that's going to

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<v Speaker 5>be a huge problem if that turns out to be

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<v Speaker 5>like an actual problem and not just a very rare.

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<v Speaker 2>They misused it or something.

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<v Speaker 3>Do we have a term for the. Because this could

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<v Speaker 3>be an actual problem and an issue that Apple has

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<v Speaker 3>to grapple with, or it could be incredibly rare, utterly insignificant,

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<v Speaker 3>but because it's tied to the hot thing, it gets

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<v Speaker 3>lots of clicks.

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<v Speaker 2>Is there a remora? Is that the fish.

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<v Speaker 5>That latches onto a shark and swims? It's like a

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<v Speaker 5>parasite story. Yeah, there should be a term for that.

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<v Speaker 5>My son's MacBook Air, which is fairly old, got a

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<v Speaker 5>cracked screen somehow.

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<v Speaker 2>He doesn't seem to understand, know how that happened. I

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<v Speaker 2>try to remind them. I do this. I think a

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<v Speaker 2>lot of us do this.

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<v Speaker 5>You have these things that your phone is the best example.

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<v Speaker 2>They're so expensive. You get so used to carrying them

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<v Speaker 2>around all the time.

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<v Speaker 5>You treat them like they're You know, like a $ 5

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<v Speaker 5>Atom or whatever, and toss it on the bed or whatever.

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<v Speaker 2>Like a comb.

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<v Speaker 5>Not like it's a $ 1, 000 computer that you're carrying around. Anyway,

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<v Speaker 5>the screen got cracked on his MacBook, and so I

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<v Speaker 5>took it to the local repair person to fix it.

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<v Speaker 3>$ 450 to fix it. They got to put a new

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<v Speaker 3>screen out.

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<v Speaker 2>$ 450.

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<v Speaker 5>So it's right on that edge of, well, is it

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<v Speaker 5>better to just get a new one? Because it's older,

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<v Speaker 5>and it's right on the cusp. But I thought, geez,

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<v Speaker 5>that's an expensive repair. What would it cost to fix

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<v Speaker 5>those duos?

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<v Speaker 2>I can't imagine. Well, with those.

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<v Speaker 3>Expensive chips these days, we know computers are really, really high.

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<v Speaker 3>And thanks to old Jensen Wang and his hot commie girlfriend,

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<v Speaker 3>it might get worse or better.

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<v Speaker 2>This guy, it's a.

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<v Speaker 5>One guy rented out a space in a strip mall

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<v Speaker 5>that probably used to be a yogurt stand or whatever.

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<v Speaker 2>And.

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<v Speaker 5>Uh, he fixes people's iPhones and computers. And I said,

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<v Speaker 5>do you stay pretty busy? And he said, I am

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<v Speaker 5>swamped all the time.

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<v Speaker 3>Oh, but he can charge pretty much whatever the hell

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<v Speaker 3>he wants. And, uh, he's on the West side of

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<v Speaker 3>my town. He just everybody in that end, probably he's

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<v Speaker 3>the most convenient guy. And, uh, And what a skill

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<v Speaker 3>to have. And I said, did you learn all this

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<v Speaker 3>pretty much just by screwing around with stuff?

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<v Speaker 5>He said, yeah, just pretty much self-taught. Just I was

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<v Speaker 5>interested in it. And then I'd start buying parts and

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<v Speaker 5>switching them out. And you learn by doing and everything

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<v Speaker 5>like that. And I said, man, AI is not going

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<v Speaker 5>to replace you. And he said, nope, not a chance.

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<v Speaker 5>I'll be able to do this the rest of my life.

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<v Speaker 2>Wow, good for him. I love that. That's an American success.

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<v Speaker 2>What a cool talent to have. I mean, that is

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<v Speaker 2>something that will be in demand.

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<v Speaker 5>Be like being somebody who could, like, you know, like

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<v Speaker 5>a farrier back in the 1800s, shoe a horse or

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<v Speaker 5>something like that.

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<v Speaker 2>You are needed. Every town needs you. Right, right.

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<v Speaker 3>And I could totally see, you know, he's charging $ 79

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<v Speaker 3>for an iPhone repair or whatever. I could totally see

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<v Speaker 3>him thinking, I'm going to tell this guy $ 89. Let's

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<v Speaker 3>try 99, you know, and just see what the market

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<v Speaker 3>will bear. I show up, is it $ 79 or $ 89?

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<v Speaker 2>I don't care. Tell me how much it is all for. Exactly.

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<v Speaker 3>I mean, unless he went like nuts, that's $ 450 to

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<v Speaker 3>replace it.

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<v Speaker 2>You know, then you'd notice. But it's definitely. You're there.

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<v Speaker 2>You need it fixed.

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<v Speaker 3>It's inelastic.

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<v Speaker 5>You probably really need it fixed unless you're somebody who

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<v Speaker 5>has like multiple computers and you use this one sometimes

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<v Speaker 5>as opposed to this is the thing I use every day. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 5>what a great business to be in.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm going to teach one of my kids to learn

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<v Speaker 2>how to fix iPhones and computers.

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<v Speaker 5>As I was walking over to the place yesterday, I

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<v Speaker 5>walked by a car on the street that had a

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<v Speaker 5>whole bunch of bumper stickers. People tend to either be

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<v Speaker 5>bumper sticker person or not bumper sticker person. Not a

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<v Speaker 5>lot of people with one or two bumper stickers. You

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<v Speaker 5>either have zero or eight for some reason. I don't

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<v Speaker 5>know what that is. And I grew up in a

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<v Speaker 5>household where my dad kind of looked down on bumper

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<v Speaker 5>sticker people, so I've never been a bumper sticker person.

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<v Speaker 5>If you grew up in a household where, absolutely, you

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<v Speaker 5>fly your flag of what you believe on the bumper

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<v Speaker 5>of your car, you probably do that as.

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<v Speaker 2>An adult, too, I guess. I don't know. Boy, just

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<v Speaker 2>my kids' colleges, that's the only things we've ever had.

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<v Speaker 2>Window sticker.

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<v Speaker 5>This bumper sticker said, billionaires are a threat. You are

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<v Speaker 5>a moron.

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<v Speaker 2>That's funny.

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<v Speaker 5>That's exactly what I said to my son as we

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<v Speaker 5>walked by a car.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, there's a moron. Isn't that nice? In America's sun,

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<v Speaker 2>a moron can afford a car.

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<v Speaker 3>That tiny bumper sticker announced so much about them. Oh,

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<v Speaker 3>but I could guess correctly like a hundred different things

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<v Speaker 3>about that person.

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<v Speaker 2>Correct. Yes. Yes, you could.

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<v Speaker 3>Based on that one bumper sticker. So, conservatism is dead.

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<v Speaker 3>In other news, rain is expected. Yeah, man, you look

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<v Speaker 3>at some recent polls.

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<v Speaker 2>I ain't going to like this, am I?

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<v Speaker 3>The francification of America. Put on your beret, folks, and

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<v Speaker 3>stay tuned.

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<v Speaker 2>Armstrong and Getty.

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<v Speaker 5>Somewhere between 28 and 38, I would guess, based on

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<v Speaker 5>the pictures. Jensen's Chinese spy girlfriend.

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<v Speaker 3>He's 64.

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<v Speaker 5>He's pretty young, very attractive. New York Times has a

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<v Speaker 5>lot of pictures of them, like, walking out of bars

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<v Speaker 5>at night and stuff like that.

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<v Speaker 2>Nice.

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<v Speaker 5>Yeah. So the guy running the most valuable company in

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<v Speaker 5>the world with the most exclusive chips had a Chinese

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<v Speaker 5>spy girlfriend, it appears. And she'll send an info back

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<v Speaker 5>to the Communist Party.

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<v Speaker 2>Fantastic.

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<v Speaker 3>Michael, play me clip 55, would you please? This fellow

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<v Speaker 3>is the president of the United States. Republicans win the

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<v Speaker 3>House of Representatives and the Senate.

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<v Speaker 2>And remember, House and Senate.

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<v Speaker 3>I am going to give all adult citizens in the United.

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<v Speaker 4>States $ 5, 000.

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<v Speaker 2>$ 5, 000.

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<v Speaker 5>I hate to be negative, but I think at this

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<v Speaker 5>point you could say, and I will ship an elephant

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<v Speaker 5>to everyone's home.

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<v Speaker 2>You'll have it by Tuesday. Oh, I've always wanted an elephant.

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<v Speaker 2>There's no way the Republicans are going to take the House.

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<v Speaker 3>Well, nobody's going to get $ 5, 000. Putting aside the ridiculousness

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<v Speaker 3>of that proposition, he sounds slurry to me in that.

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<v Speaker 2>What are you insinuating? Age finally catching up with him.

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<v Speaker 2>Every once in a while he does, and I think

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<v Speaker 2>it's a teeth thing.

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<v Speaker 5>He's done that for years, where all of a sudden

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<v Speaker 5>he gets the big, he's really slurred.

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<v Speaker 2>I think his teeth slide looser. I don't know what happened. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>it could be a dentures thing. I don't know. Anyway,

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<v Speaker 2>we'll all keep an eye out for that. We will. Well, yes.

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<v Speaker 3>I had to do something as a transition. Jason Riley,

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<v Speaker 3>great columnist for the Wall Street Journal. His column this

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<v Speaker 3>week was, Hispanics ditch Trump for the same reason as

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<v Speaker 3>everyone else. which is a bit of a harsh headline.

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<v Speaker 3>But what he's talking about is while there are some

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<v Speaker 3>signs that the manner in which the ICE crackdown has

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<v Speaker 3>been conducted has cost votes in the Hispanic community, it's

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<v Speaker 3>not the factor. And this is so interesting. It goes

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<v Speaker 3>against so much of the popular narrative from the lamestream media.

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<v Speaker 3>But a Pew Research Center survey this month asked Hispanic

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<v Speaker 3>voters to name their top issues.

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<v Speaker 2>Immigration ranked fifth.

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<v Speaker 3>After the economy, health care, education, and the future of democracy,

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<v Speaker 3>whatever that means. Moreover, issues around race and ethnicity ranked

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<v Speaker 3>second from the bottom in their list of concerns, which

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<v Speaker 3>stands to reason, Jason points out, because that's not what

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<v Speaker 3>attracted them to Trump in the first place. It's kitchen table,

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<v Speaker 3>how's the economy, how's my job? issues, and they went

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<v Speaker 3>way to Trump because they perceived him as a good

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<v Speaker 3>manager of the economy, and now that, you know, they're

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<v Speaker 3>frustrated by inflation and taxes and blah, blah, energy prices,

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<v Speaker 3>they're going away. That's virtually all you need to know.

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<v Speaker 3>I think it's just so hard for people who are,

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<v Speaker 3>like the media particularly.

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<v Speaker 5>Most of whom grew up in a family that voted

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<v Speaker 5>D for every race, local to president their entire lives,

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<v Speaker 5>and now they have also. And then they have their

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<v Speaker 5>view of whatever Republican voters are. I think it's so

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<v Speaker 5>hard for those people to imagine people that, like, I

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<v Speaker 5>don't care who's going to make the groceries cheaper or

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<v Speaker 5>the gas lower. I don't care at all. I don't

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<v Speaker 5>ever think about it. I don't even know what you're

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<v Speaker 5>talking about. There are lots and lots of voters like that. Well,

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<v Speaker 5>you add to that, because I think you're absolutely right.

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<v Speaker 5>You add to that the fact that.

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<v Speaker 3>Nobody is close to as Just fixated on ethnic issues

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<v Speaker 3>because Hispanic isn't a race. Anyway, nobody's as fixated on

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<v Speaker 3>racial issues as white college miseducated people, particularly women. The

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<v Speaker 3>Hispanic people in the survey.

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<v Speaker 2>Are like, what?

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<v Speaker 3>I don't have time to worry about that crap. I'm

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<v Speaker 3>trying to feed my kids. By the way, their schools suck.

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<v Speaker 2>And what was the other one?

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<v Speaker 3>Our democracy seems to be really corrupt and everybody's making

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<v Speaker 3>money that's what i care about not being called latinx

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<v Speaker 3>or not my guess.

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<v Speaker 5>Would be if you're from mexico or some other corrupt

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<v Speaker 5>country you really hate the sniff of corruption right when

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<v Speaker 5>you're in the united states they go i've seen this

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<v Speaker 5>before no it's.

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<v Speaker 3>Like right it's like cubans watching a socialism and communism

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<v Speaker 3>come in they are a especially acutely aware of that,

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<v Speaker 3>and folks from the Soviet bloc, too. Which brings us to, gosh,

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<v Speaker 3>dang it, I don't want to be discouraging. I don't

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<v Speaker 3>want people to tune in and think, wow, I'm sad now, exhausted.

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<v Speaker 2>Sure, glad I tuned in. Yeah, no kidding. How do

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<v Speaker 2>I present this? I could lie. That's what I'll do.

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<v Speaker 2>I'll lie.

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<v Speaker 3>Wall Street Journal had this dealio. Conservatives and liberals agree

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<v Speaker 3>on many of these policies.

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<v Speaker 2>Do you, too?

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<v Speaker 3>Take our quiz to find out how your view of

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<v Speaker 3>these ideas compares with those of people in our latest survey.

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<v Speaker 2>What a good quiz.

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<v Speaker 3>And so, yeah, I took the quiz. First, they asked me,

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<v Speaker 3>what do you most identify as? Very liberal, somewhat liberal, moderate,

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<v Speaker 3>somewhat conservative, or very conservative? I told them, very conservative.

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<v Speaker 2>That's what you consider yourself?

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh, I think so. At least how I define it.

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<v Speaker 2>But here's the... I don't know what I consider myself.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't think about it that much. I don't either.

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<v Speaker 2>It depends on the issue. I'd rather nail down an issue.

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<v Speaker 2>I'll tell you where I am on the spectrum on

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<v Speaker 2>that one.

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<v Speaker 3>Well, and interestingly, that was kind of my takeaway from

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<v Speaker 3>this quiz. Ultimately, it defined me as pretty conservative or

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<v Speaker 3>somewhat conservative or something, and I don't know why. But

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<v Speaker 3>so let's all go through this together, folks, and we'll

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<v Speaker 3>take this on your behalf. Do you support— Jack, you will.

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<v Speaker 2>Be our chairman.

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<v Speaker 3>If there's a disagreement, you will decide— Do you support

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<v Speaker 3>or oppose capping credit card interest rates at 10%?

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<v Speaker 2>No, absolutely no. That's a horrible idea. I'm sorry. We're

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<v Speaker 2>never going to get through this because I have so

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<v Speaker 2>many gripes.

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<v Speaker 3>Here are your choices. See if you, and Katie, I'd

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<v Speaker 3>love to hear your opinion too. Do you support or

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<v Speaker 3>oppose this? It's a top priority for me. I generally

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<v Speaker 3>support it. I generally oppose it, or I find this concerning.

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<v Speaker 3>Do they have one lower than that? Is there a

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<v Speaker 3>no effing way? I have contempt for any moron who

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<v Speaker 3>would think this is, that's, I'm sorry, I used the

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<v Speaker 3>M word.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't get why.

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<v Speaker 3>I find this concerning is more than I generally oppose it.

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<v Speaker 2>You're slicing it thin, but you're right. Did you just

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<v Speaker 2>call moron the M word? I did, and I apologize

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<v Speaker 2>for using it.

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<v Speaker 3>People need to learn about economics to understand it as

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<v Speaker 3>the wonderful book, The Writh of the Rational Voter, as

0:24:30.720 --> 0:24:33.239
<v Speaker 3>some pronounce it, The Myth of the Rational Voter pointed out.

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<v Speaker 3>People systematically misunderstand certain aspects of economics like.

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<v Speaker 2>Way more than random.

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<v Speaker 3>Oh, yeah, yeah.

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<v Speaker 5>I can easily see how a person would say, yeah,

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<v Speaker 5>they should crap that. And I think you could explain

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<v Speaker 5>to them quite quickly why that's a terrible idea. And

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<v Speaker 5>then they say, OK, I get it. But just back

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<v Speaker 5>on the moron thing. So you just didn't want to

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<v Speaker 5>call them a moron, or has moron become a word

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<v Speaker 5>like retarded where we're not supposed to say it anymore?

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<v Speaker 2>No, no, no, no, no. Okay.

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<v Speaker 3>It was just me realizing, wait a minute, Joe, your premise,

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<v Speaker 3>you jackass, is that I'm the moron here, ironically.

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<v Speaker 2>He had four fingers pointing back at you. No, I don't.

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<v Speaker 2>Look at that.

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<v Speaker 4>Okay.

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<v Speaker 3>My whole premise is that these attitudes are really widespread,

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<v Speaker 3>and it's a problem. For instance, Jack, we're going to

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<v Speaker 3>start the show with a showstopper right here. All right,

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<v Speaker 3>so I went ahead and said I find this concerning.

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<v Speaker 3>Capping the maximum interest on credit cards is broadly popular

0:25:32.760 --> 0:25:39.480
<v Speaker 3>across all ideological groups, and opposition to the idea is muted. Overall, 79%

0:25:39.480 --> 0:25:44.430
<v Speaker 3>of Americans support this, and 15% oppose it. And there

0:25:44.510 --> 0:25:48.609
<v Speaker 3>is no, virtually no difference between the very liberal and

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<v Speaker 3>the very conservative as to opposition.

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<v Speaker 5>So that is an indicator of how we don't teach

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<v Speaker 5>basic economics in school at all.

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<v Speaker 2>That's what that is.

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<v Speaker 3>Let's plunge on. Do you support or oppose capping child

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<v Speaker 3>care costs?

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<v Speaker 2>Oh, my God.

0:26:04.200 --> 0:26:07.360
<v Speaker 3>Overall, 74% of Americans support this.

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<v Speaker 5>God, is there any sort of cost thing that you

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<v Speaker 5>would cap that is a good idea?

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<v Speaker 2>I can't think of one off the top of my head. No,

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<v Speaker 2>not really.

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<v Speaker 3>No.

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<v Speaker 2>It's a very special circumstance. It makes things more expensive.

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<v Speaker 3>I understand you want things cheaper, but that's not what

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<v Speaker 3>you're going to get with this, people. You're either going

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<v Speaker 3>to get less apartments, which will make the rents higher. Well,

0:26:27.800 --> 0:26:29.179
<v Speaker 3>if they can't raise the rent, they can't raise the rent.

0:26:29.359 --> 0:26:30.899
<v Speaker 3>But there won't be any apartments to get.

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<v Speaker 2>Right.

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<v Speaker 3>Or massive redistribution of income. I mean, if you kept

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<v Speaker 3>child care costs... They're going to have to be heavily

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<v Speaker 3>subsidized by the government because, as I've said many times,

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<v Speaker 3>you really want the low bidder caring for your baby.

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<v Speaker 2>Really?

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<v Speaker 5>Let's think about this. It's very popular. And then the

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<v Speaker 5>credit card thing. Well, the credit card companies will just

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<v Speaker 5>stop giving out credit to people.

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<v Speaker 3>Do you support or oppose limiting rent increases to 5%

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<v Speaker 3>above the rate of inflation? 65% of Americans support it.

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<v Speaker 2>What was that one on the childcare cost? Like 80%? 74%.

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<v Speaker 2>God dang, three quarters. That is really something. All right.

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<v Speaker 2>This is all kind of the same.

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<v Speaker 3>I would have thought that when I was 20, but

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<v Speaker 3>didn't somebody come along and no life experience or I

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<v Speaker 3>don't know.

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<v Speaker 2>Right, right, right, right. Are we too hip for the room, friends?

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<v Speaker 3>I feel like we've explained why price controls backfire a

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<v Speaker 3>Many times, I don't want to move too swiftly for

0:27:39.680 --> 0:27:44.980
<v Speaker 3>people who are not familiar with the concepts, but why

0:27:45.040 --> 0:27:48.980
<v Speaker 3>would you bring something to market unless it exceeds your

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<v Speaker 3>costs by enough to make it worth going to the trouble?

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<v Speaker 3>How is that? So if the government says, you know what?

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<v Speaker 3>We're capping child care costs at twenty dollars an hour. Yes.

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<v Speaker 2>Yes.

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<v Speaker 3>Justice, you say who's bringing child care for that rate?

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<v Speaker 2>Well, right.

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<v Speaker 5>And I know as a guy who has paid for

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<v Speaker 5>a lot of child care over the last five years.

0:28:13.070 --> 0:28:16.050
<v Speaker 5>I pay more than that for better people. So now

0:28:16.109 --> 0:28:18.689
<v Speaker 5>those better people are going to find something else to do.

0:28:20.140 --> 0:28:20.699
<v Speaker 2>Most likely.

0:28:21.180 --> 0:28:22.359
<v Speaker 5>And you're going to end up with the people that

0:28:22.400 --> 0:28:25.459
<v Speaker 5>are only worth probably $ 15 an hour, but are now

0:28:25.480 --> 0:28:28.840
<v Speaker 5>getting paid more because there's nobody else out there. There's

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<v Speaker 5>a little bit more sanity when it comes to supporting

0:28:32.760 --> 0:28:38.160
<v Speaker 5>or opposing raising the minimum wage to $ 20. Overall, 57%

0:28:38.160 --> 0:28:40.480
<v Speaker 5>of Americans support this and 39% oppose it.

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<v Speaker 2>Interesting. So we're very conservative. Healthcare. I thought this was interesting.

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<v Speaker 3>Do you support or oppose banning surprise medical bills?

0:28:52.010 --> 0:28:53.550
<v Speaker 2>I'm not sure why this is on the quiz because

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<v Speaker 2>my understanding.

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<v Speaker 3>Of the issue is it's you go in to get

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<v Speaker 3>your knee fixed and three weeks later you get a

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<v Speaker 3>bill from a guy you've never heard of, you never saw,

0:29:02.780 --> 0:29:06.360
<v Speaker 3>who allegedly looked at your scan or something and they're

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<v Speaker 3>outside your network and all of a sudden you got

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<v Speaker 3>an $ 800 bill.

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<v Speaker 5>You don't know what the hell it is. I don't

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<v Speaker 5>see that as a conservative or liberal topic. It's so

0:29:16.980 --> 0:29:19.880
<v Speaker 5>complicated when you get to healthcare. We had this conversation yesterday,

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<v Speaker 5>Henry and I, we needed to go to, we needed

0:29:21.980 --> 0:29:24.600
<v Speaker 5>a doctor's appointment. And so I did urgent care, which

0:29:24.640 --> 0:29:30.290
<v Speaker 5>has now become like a, now they have urgent care

0:29:30.530 --> 0:29:33.610
<v Speaker 5>all day, every day. It used to be after hours.

0:29:33.670 --> 0:29:36.130
<v Speaker 5>Now it's just a different hospital. They moved my doctor

0:29:36.270 --> 0:29:38.650
<v Speaker 5>out of this place to a different place. The actual Dr.

0:29:38.690 --> 0:29:39.080
<v Speaker 2>Magnet Boyman.

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<v Speaker 5>Now it's urgent care all day, every day. And it

0:29:41.360 --> 0:29:44.700
<v Speaker 5>seems to be for poorer people to have a place

0:29:44.720 --> 0:29:46.880
<v Speaker 5>to go to the doctor, which I assume is picked

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<v Speaker 5>up by the taxpayer to a great extent for people

0:29:49.600 --> 0:29:52.160
<v Speaker 5>who don't have any insurance. And it's just a different thing.

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<v Speaker 5>And I don't even know what's going on here at

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<v Speaker 5>this point.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, it's a no point. It's a walk-in doctor.

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<v Speaker 3>Oh, my.

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<v Speaker 5>But it's not like the kind where they have just

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<v Speaker 5>prices on the board.

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<v Speaker 2>I like those.

0:30:05.210 --> 0:30:07.690
<v Speaker 5>I did one of those in Salina, Kansas, actually, where

0:30:07.810 --> 0:30:11.020
<v Speaker 5>Trump is speaking Saturday, when my son had something. They

0:30:11.040 --> 0:30:13.280
<v Speaker 5>had one of those, whatever they call those. It was

0:30:13.300 --> 0:30:15.920
<v Speaker 5>like a standalone thing. And it just had a price,

0:30:16.040 --> 0:30:18.239
<v Speaker 5>and you could decide to do it or not. But

0:30:18.260 --> 0:30:21.140
<v Speaker 5>this is like the whole complicated, you don't get billed,

0:30:21.780 --> 0:30:23.880
<v Speaker 5>goes through insurance or doesn't or something.

0:30:24.220 --> 0:30:25.370
<v Speaker 2>It's all such a mess.

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<v Speaker 3>Uh, getting back to the thread of the thing. Oh,

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<v Speaker 3>we don't have much time. Do you support or oppose

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<v Speaker 3>capping prescription drug prices? 87% of Americans support this, uh,

0:30:35.840 --> 0:30:39.780
<v Speaker 3>nevermind making it worth it to innovate new treatments and

0:30:39.800 --> 0:30:41.460
<v Speaker 3>that sort of thing. Don't really have time to get

0:30:41.520 --> 0:30:45.060
<v Speaker 3>into that. Um, do you support or oppose requiring insurance

0:30:45.120 --> 0:30:49.420
<v Speaker 3>companies to cover services and medications prescribed by your doctor?

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<v Speaker 2>Uh, 88% of Americans, uh, support this.

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<v Speaker 3>Um, It's going to drive the insurance companies out of business, though,

0:30:57.910 --> 0:31:01.710
<v Speaker 3>because your doctor, wanting to avoid a suit for malpractice,

0:31:02.250 --> 0:31:04.390
<v Speaker 3>will say, all right, you got a sore throat?

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<v Speaker 2>Go get an x-ray, I guess.

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<v Speaker 5>I have trouble weighing in on anything when you get

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<v Speaker 5>into the medical world. As our friend Craig has told

0:31:11.050 --> 0:31:14.290
<v Speaker 5>us over and over, it's already practically socialized medicine. We

0:31:14.330 --> 0:31:16.990
<v Speaker 5>have so much government intervention and wealth redistribution.

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<v Speaker 1>Right.

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0:31:35.640 --> 0:31:38.870
<v Speaker 3>the vast majority of Americans want to become more like France.

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<v Speaker 4>Well, what's harder and harder and harder as time goes

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<v Speaker 4>on is getting paid for your work. You know, I

0:32:55.040 --> 0:32:58.840
<v Speaker 4>used to make money for writing songs, but also for

0:32:58.880 --> 0:33:02.360
<v Speaker 4>selling records. And you don't sell records anymore. So what

0:33:02.400 --> 0:33:06.090
<v Speaker 4>you might make from selling records is gone. In all

0:33:06.130 --> 0:33:08.770
<v Speaker 4>the times I've been streamed on YouTube or any of

0:33:08.810 --> 0:33:13.160
<v Speaker 4>those formats... I've never received anything. It's kind of hard

0:33:13.300 --> 0:33:15.360
<v Speaker 4>getting paid for what it is that you create.

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<v Speaker 2>You can have a hit song, and back in the day,

0:33:17.800 --> 0:33:18.700
<v Speaker 2>you'd make a fortune.

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<v Speaker 5>That's Vince Gill, who's had a lot of hit songs

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<v Speaker 5>back in the day when, yeah, you have a hit

0:33:24.070 --> 0:33:26.510
<v Speaker 5>album with four or five big songs on it, you're

0:33:26.710 --> 0:33:29.970
<v Speaker 5>set for life. You don't ever have to work again.

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<v Speaker 5>One album, three, four big hits, country music, absolutely. Nothing now.

0:33:36.090 --> 0:33:39.010
<v Speaker 5>You don't make a freaking cent. You make a cent,

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<v Speaker 5>but not worth even enough to even mention.

0:33:41.370 --> 0:33:43.130
<v Speaker 2>Isn't that amazing? I wouldn't bend over to pick it up.

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<v Speaker 5>What a huge change in a major industry. There's all

0:33:48.270 --> 0:33:51.050
<v Speaker 5>kinds of people that have been living the lifestyles of

0:33:51.070 --> 0:33:54.350
<v Speaker 5>the rich and famous from a couple of hits back

0:33:54.390 --> 0:33:54.850
<v Speaker 5>in the day.

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<v Speaker 3>If that happened now, they'd be working at the grocery

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<v Speaker 3>store and it'd be a trivia question. I think that

0:34:00.450 --> 0:34:02.410
<v Speaker 3>occasionally when I see, you know, one of my favorite

0:34:02.430 --> 0:34:07.979
<v Speaker 3>YouTube stars interviewing musicians, some rock royalty, or, you know,

0:34:08.040 --> 0:34:10.219
<v Speaker 3>somebody whose name you know, oh, it turns out he

0:34:10.260 --> 0:34:13.680
<v Speaker 3>wrote that tune, that tune, and they're living the life

0:34:13.739 --> 0:34:16.610
<v Speaker 3>of Riley. Today, they would be working part-time at the

0:34:16.620 --> 0:34:19.189
<v Speaker 3>grocery store to make ends meet, and.

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<v Speaker 2>They're rock royalty.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, they wouldn't be wearing the cool, I'm a former

0:34:23.989 --> 0:34:26.710
<v Speaker 3>rock and roll star thing. I still live in a

0:34:26.730 --> 0:34:30.670
<v Speaker 3>really big house and fly private because of these hit

0:34:30.690 --> 0:34:33.230
<v Speaker 3>songs I had. No, you'd be wearing khakis and comfortable

0:34:33.250 --> 0:34:35.190
<v Speaker 3>shoes because you're delivering Amazon packages.

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<v Speaker 2>Right, yeah. Yeah, there's quite the change. It is wild

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<v Speaker 2>that that happened in such a short amount of time.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't know.

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<v Speaker 5>I don't know what you're going to do about it.

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<v Speaker 5>And I was going to transition that into the economic

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<v Speaker 5>news that came out today.

0:34:49.080 --> 0:34:49.560
<v Speaker 2>The U.S.

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<v Speaker 5>Economy accelerated at its fastest rate in a year, 3.4% growth.

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<v Speaker 5>This is good news for Trump and the Republicans on

0:34:55.719 --> 0:34:58.719
<v Speaker 5>the campaign trail. You look at the graph going back

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<v Speaker 5>to 2021, and it's a bar graph, and it's a

0:35:01.080 --> 0:35:04.970
<v Speaker 5>dang good quarter looking back over the last several years,

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<v Speaker 5>but driven in large part by all the AI stuff,

0:35:11.150 --> 0:35:12.290
<v Speaker 5>which is either real or it's not.

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<v Speaker 2>Now, as we talked about last week, AI is for real.

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<v Speaker 5>There could be a giant crash, and it doesn't mean

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<v Speaker 5>AI isn't real. My super genius economic friend made this

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<v Speaker 5>point to me a couple weeks ago about the dot-com crash. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 5>all those ridiculous websites that hadn't made any money, they

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<v Speaker 5>crashed and disappeared. The Internet didn't—it wasn't that the Internet

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<v Speaker 5>wasn't a big thing.

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<v Speaker 4>Right.

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<v Speaker 2>It was the biggest thing ever. Right, right.

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<v Speaker 3>And many, many websites are very profitable. You've heard of them.

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<v Speaker 2>Right. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 5>And AI, there could be a giant AI crash in

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<v Speaker 5>the stock market because of the incestuous chip buying.

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<v Speaker 2>And all that sort of stuff. But it doesn't mean

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<v Speaker 2>AI ain't a really, really big thing.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah. I wish I had the slightest idea. Oh, nobody does.

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<v Speaker 5>Stock market grew pretty well, and consumer spending continues to

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<v Speaker 5>be strong, driving up the stock market. All this talk

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<v Speaker 5>about affordability and being broke, and that's the number one

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<v Speaker 5>issue in the country, but we're still spending?

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<v Speaker 3>I am so mystified by the current economy. I think

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<v Speaker 3>everybody is. So, Abdul, I'll say it is a jihadist

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<v Speaker 3>breaking news. We'll talk about that next hour, among other things.

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<v Speaker 3>Stick around or grab the podcast.

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<v Speaker 2>Armstrong and Getty.