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Speaker 1: Wind Down with Jana Kramer and I'm Heart Radio podcast.

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Speaker 2: Guys our nanny quit? Yeah, oh wait are we do? Well?

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Speaker 3: This is really funny and this isn't a spot. I

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Speaker 3: don't even know if this is a spot, but so

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Speaker 3: I've been using care dot com. So on the way here,

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Speaker 3: we'll seeing we're trying to find a nanny here, which

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Speaker 3: ended up finding one here for the short term time

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Speaker 3: that we're in Los Angeles, but we're also looking for

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Speaker 3: a nanny in Nashville. And I just don't understand some

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Speaker 3: of these girls that post pictures on care dot com

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Speaker 3: because I'm like, don't you know the females hiring. It's

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Speaker 3: like he's I'm laughing in the car and he's like,

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Speaker 3: why are you laughing? I said, because I don't understand

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Speaker 3: some of these girls' profile pictures because the wives are hiring,

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Speaker 3: Like I don't. I don't see a guy going on

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Speaker 3: care dot com and going through the nannies. And maybe

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Speaker 3: they do, and that's that's awesome, but you know, I

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Speaker 3: personally am doing it and I'm laughing because this one

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Speaker 3: photo is like, Hi, I'm twenty two years old and

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Speaker 3: I have pricky boobs, Like don't don't post the perky

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Speaker 3: boob photo like you're not gonna be hired. I'm not

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Speaker 3: hiring you. So I just said no, thanks. I mean,

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Speaker 3: and I'm not saying post an ugly photo. I'm just saying,

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Speaker 3: don't post if you're if you're young, if you're younger

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Speaker 3: than like twenty.

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Speaker 2: I don't know, dress for the part.

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Speaker 4: Dress for the part.

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Speaker 2: You should dress for the part.

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Speaker 3: So to the girls out there that are on care

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Speaker 3: dot com, I wouldn't put your Instagram.

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Speaker 4: Right the same profile picture as your Instagram as your

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Speaker 4: care dot com picture.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, because I'm like, no, I'm not going to hire you. Sorry.

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Speaker 3: Not that I don't trust my husband, not that I

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Speaker 3: don't trust you, know whatever. I just I well, I'll

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Speaker 3: say this. I just think it's not smart for I mean,

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Speaker 3: you look at some of these nannies and I'm like, well, you.

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Speaker 2: Kind of ask for it. She's kind of hot, you

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Speaker 2: know what I mean.

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Speaker 3: You're in close quarters, right, not saying that Ben Affleck

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Speaker 3: was wrong, but you look at the nanny and I'm like, well,

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Speaker 3: she's really cute.

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Speaker 4: Playing with fire.

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Speaker 2: You're playing with fire.

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Speaker 4: I think the same thing goes for like assistants or

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Speaker 4: old friend of ours in Nashville, Like his assistant was

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Speaker 4: a beautiful young woman and he ended up getting he

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Speaker 4: had he had a beautiful wife and like three kids.

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Speaker 4: And and even with the first time we met that her, oh,

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Speaker 4: I was like, everyone, we're with Jane and her band

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Speaker 4: and we're all just kind of like, that's probably not

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Speaker 4: a good idea.

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Speaker 1: And if you're trying to diet, don't bring a chocolate

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Speaker 1: cake into the house, right, And here's the deal.

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Speaker 3: And I want to say this because I know Brittany

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Speaker 3: are one of our former nannies listens to the show.

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Speaker 3: It's not that Brittany wasn't cute, because I think Brittany,

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Speaker 3: you're you're you're so cute. But there's a different thing

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Speaker 3: that women, girls put off. Like I mean Brittany was like,

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Speaker 3: how would you describe Brittany. I mean, she's so cute,

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Speaker 3: but she doesn't put off the no.

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Speaker 2: I mean britt.

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Speaker 4: Brett, I mean she's one of us that like she

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Speaker 4: was part of the family, Like she's one of the guys,

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Speaker 4: like her hanging She's.

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Speaker 3: Like one of the guys totally, but not in a

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Speaker 3: way where I feel like some of the girls, maybe

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Speaker 3: some of those nannies like the ben AFFLECKX and the

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Speaker 3: Gavin Rossdell's nannies. They put off more of a sexier vibe.

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Speaker 1: Why bother? Yeah, why why even put that temptation out there?

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Speaker 4: Right?

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Speaker 1: Focus on each other.

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Speaker 5: And Alice from Brady Bunch vibe?

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Speaker 3: Right, Yeah, So, I mean I'm going for the more

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Speaker 3: one hundred percent. I love that you had to reference

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Speaker 3: a photo like I. I did watch The Brady Bunch heytimes.

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Speaker 5: It works it right, you're.

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Speaker 1: Very young and does references.

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Speaker 4: Would you ever would you ever hire a manny?

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Speaker 2: Well, I asked you about that one guy. I said,

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Speaker 2: what about this guy Tipathy?

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Speaker 4: Yeah, well he also looked like he he has some issues.

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Speaker 3: But well, I would hire a guy I would hire.

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Speaker 3: I would probably, I'd be honestly, I'd I'd rather hire

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Speaker 3: a gay man over a straight man for sure. Not

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Speaker 3: saying that I would be tempted.

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Speaker 4: But no, I and that's not that wouldn't even be

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Speaker 4: my reason for not hiring a guy. It wouldn't be that.

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Speaker 4: It's just I think there's still something there's just some

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Speaker 4: jobs in this world that are just women are better

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Speaker 4: suited for. No, I'm no, I'm not saying it's from

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Speaker 4: a biological standpoint of women are naturally more nurturing.

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Speaker 2: Agreed.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, so it's just a softer approach, you know, more

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Speaker 4: much like it's just it's just your human nature. So

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Speaker 4: I just feel like it's a safer bet over and

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Speaker 4: I feel like when it comes to that stuff, women

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Speaker 4: are able to You're able to kind of feel their

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Speaker 4: energy right easier than your men.

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Speaker 3: It's funny though, I was starting to read reviews though

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Speaker 3: about some of the girls because I've narrowed it down

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Speaker 3: to a couple of girls in Nashville, and they're all

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Speaker 3: once a little young, I really want to go older

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Speaker 3: I like or I like the fifty year between forty

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Speaker 3: don't care about Instagram, they don't care like this is

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Speaker 3: their job, they're not looking to.

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Speaker 4: Just they don't have a lot of social plans.

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Speaker 3: And also they've probably raised their own kids a lot

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Speaker 3: of exactly, So I mean I lean towards that. But

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Speaker 3: then I also like, again, I like the way Brittany

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Speaker 3: was like, let's go to the zoo and let's do this,

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Speaker 3: and I'm like, you have so much more energy than me,

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Speaker 3: which I like in a younger person, because I see

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Speaker 3: that a lot of younger people do that.

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Speaker 2: But here's the answering.

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Speaker 4: You can count younger people. You can got to like workhorse.

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Speaker 4: You can kind of work them a little bit more,

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Speaker 4: you know what I mean. They're not jade. You gotta

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Speaker 4: work them. They got to earn their stripes.

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Speaker 2: Yeah.

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Speaker 3: But so I was reading some of the reviews and

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Speaker 3: some of the girls, and this one girl which I

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Speaker 3: liked and then ended up saying no to. One of

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Speaker 3: the reviews said that she was she was playing the

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Speaker 3: like no joke on care they were she was playing

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Speaker 3: so that they're divorced and they her whole intent was

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Speaker 3: to get into the father's life. Like she was so

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Speaker 3: this is a review.

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Speaker 2: A review wrote the review the wife.

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Speaker 3: Oh my god, Yeah, I was reading this like this

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Speaker 3: is some juicy stuff on care dot com.

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Speaker 1: I mean two stars because she did great laundry.

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Speaker 3: She actually only had one because I was like, why

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Speaker 3: did she have one star? This isn't good? And then

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Speaker 3: I said nope, no, thanks, don't need you in the house.

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Speaker 4: I will say around that, though, I think for that

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Speaker 4: to happen, the husband and wife clearly didn't have very

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Speaker 4: good communication. Yeah, because I feel like if someone like

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Speaker 4: we'd come to each other. They'd be like, hey, so

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Speaker 4: and so I was saying you said this, or you're

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Speaker 4: doing this this way, and you'd be like, what, No,

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Speaker 4: I don't we know how we're doing No, I didn't

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Speaker 4: do that. Yeah, and we'd be like okay, like we

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Speaker 4: we'd smell blood in the water, like pretty quick back,

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Speaker 4: all right, this isn't.

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Speaker 2: I would hope.

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Speaker 4: So we would because we talk about I'm just having.

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Speaker 3: A lot of anxiety because we have a lot of

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Speaker 3: trips coming up. We're going to Scotland, we have our

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Speaker 3: podcast tour, which by the way, is in May, so

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Speaker 3: you guys get your tickets Boston, Virginia, and New York.

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Speaker 3: But I'm scared because we have this new nanny coming

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Speaker 3: in and I've just heard all the horror stories and

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Speaker 3: I'm she seems great.

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Speaker 2: I really like her energy.

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Speaker 3: She has two she's from Greece, she's you know, she's

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Speaker 3: in her fifties, I think, but I'm still so scared.

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Speaker 3: I see those things on the news and I don't

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Speaker 3: I'm just scared, Like, what if she's crazy, what if

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Speaker 3: she just hurts our children. I'm like, I'm genuinely having anxiety.

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Speaker 1: Will have it in any camra, I'm sorry.

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Speaker 4: Yep, we're getting more.

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Speaker 2: So we just we bought we bought five cameras.

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Speaker 4: Wow.

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Speaker 3: There's this new system called Blink. Have you ever heard

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Speaker 3: of it? It works with Alexa. But there's these little

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Speaker 3: small cameras. So we're gonna put them in the kids rooms,

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Speaker 3: which we already have cameras anyways, but I just want

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Speaker 3: them more around the house. But even so, if something

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Speaker 1: There, are they hidden cameras here.

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Speaker 2: She'll know, she'll know she's on camera.

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Speaker 4: We're gonna have it so because before we just had

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Speaker 4: one in Joe Jason's room, but now we're gonna have

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Speaker 4: going to have one another one in Jay's room so

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Speaker 4: we can see it all on the same device.

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Speaker 2: Yeah.

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Speaker 4: So yeah, we're gonna have it all over.

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Speaker 3: What if something were to happen and we're not there,

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Speaker 3: we're in freaking Boston doing wine down, or we're in Scotland,

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Speaker 3: how do you I mean, you just call the police.

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Speaker 4: I think. I mean, because this is going to be

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Speaker 4: a new nanny, I think it'd be smart to maybe

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Speaker 4: have Julie or somebody to stop by every now and then. Yeah,

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Speaker 4: it's be like, hey, you know our new nanny's name,

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Speaker 4: Be like, hey, you know, Julie's gonna stop by, just

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Speaker 4: you know, a familiar face. The other kids are doing

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Speaker 3: It's just weird because when Jolie was little, I traveled

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Speaker 3: with me. We flew went everywhere together. So I feel

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Speaker 3: like this is kind of the first time we're having

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Speaker 1: Why not, because you're working so much when you're when

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Speaker 2: Can't bring him to Scotland.

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Speaker 3: So because it's I mean with a baby and Jolie,

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Speaker 3: I mean, the flights.

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Speaker 4: Were already just because we have a two kids.

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Speaker 2: Now it's when it was it was easier, it.

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Speaker 4: Was easy, and we didn't have to buy her a seat.

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Speaker 3: Yet and if we were because we're technically still in

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Speaker 3: l so the podcast tours in May, so again it'd

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Speaker 3: it's all champagne problems, but I think just some having

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Speaker 3: I'm very interested to hear some nanny story. So email

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Speaker 4: literally just hitchhike. It's that's unheard of today. That won't happen,

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Speaker 2: But back then you are you going to be more trusting.

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Speaker 4: Come home, baby.

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Speaker 2: So I don't know where we're going to be, but

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Speaker 4: It would be super cool if the kids were a

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Speaker 2: But wow, us two dogs and tags.

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Speaker 4: And see where we end up.

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Speaker 4: But what are we going to say? Do I feel

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Speaker 3: Oh? Yeah, so in Nashville. I mean we're going to

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Speaker 1: You are people less crime, right, And I'm sure you

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Speaker 4: I mean, i'd see why helicopter parenting is a thing

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Speaker 1: I think Paris back then were just ignorant of the world.

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Speaker 3: Right Well, to brighten things up a little bit, we

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Speaker 2: Who I just I love them.

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Speaker 1: their way out of jail. On the other hand, when

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Speaker 1: you think of the crimes that really are committed that

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Speaker 1: require incarceration, this seems low on that totem pole. I

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Speaker 1: understand that they kept other kids out of college, but

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Speaker 1: they didn't kill anybody, they didn't hurt anybody. They didn't,

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Speaker 1: you know, so that's an interesting thing.

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Speaker 3: I mean, there are a lot of people that are

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Speaker 3: getting released from jail because of overcrowding, So people that

447
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Speaker 3: have committed serious crimes, like serious serious?

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Speaker 4: Is it bad that I have I don't know if

449
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Speaker 4: this is even an old fashioned mindset, but this is

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Speaker 4: just it might be backlatched on this. But my opinion

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Speaker 4: with the whole prison system, depending on your crime.

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Speaker 7: If you.

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Speaker 4: If it has anything to do with children, molestation, abuse,

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Speaker 4: you're dead, kidnapping, murder, anything like that with children, You're

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Speaker 4: going take you out back like death penalty definitely, yeah,

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Speaker 4: but not even death like shoot them. Not even death

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Speaker 4: penalty because that could be twenty years you're on death

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Speaker 4: row or something true, like.

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Speaker 5: Like instant capital punishment.

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Speaker 3: What if people look, I think that's anything with kids

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Speaker 3: and any of that stuff. I think it's so heinous.

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Speaker 3: But what if someone does, can someone change from that?

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Speaker 3: Like I mean, trust me, if it's my kid I

464
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Speaker 3: would want. I'll take him out back, I'll kill him.

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Speaker 1: That's the interesting thing about the death penalties. People who

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Speaker 1: like I consider myself anti death penalty because so many

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Speaker 1: there's so many wrongful convictions as the long process of

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Speaker 1: the victiary.

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Speaker 4: Right.

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Speaker 1: But if it was my kid, yes, I'm in favor

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Speaker 1: of capital punishment. So it's a tough you're kind of

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Speaker 1: torn on that. But if it's cut and dried, I

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Speaker 1: have no issue with that.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean, if it's if it's clear as day

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Speaker 4: and there's no question behind.

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Speaker 2: Me, and what if they're young and under a lot

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Speaker 2: of drugs.

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Speaker 4: And obviously there's still there's still very equation. I don't

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Speaker 4: I don't know what those are, right, didn't think of

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Speaker 4: them all about. But all I'm saying is there's I

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Speaker 4: feel like there should be some crimes in this country that, yeah,

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Speaker 4: like you said, depending on this variables, age, situation, under

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Speaker 4: the influence or not on the under the influence, his

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Speaker 4: history of crime, whatever it may be. Some things I

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Speaker 4: just think people don't deserve no chance.

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Speaker 1: Well, let me ask you, the Devil's advocate. Yeah, couldn't

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Speaker 1: you argue that every crime of that magnitude murder child molestation,

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Speaker 1: that sort of thing. There is a story there's all,

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Speaker 1: whether it's abuse as a child, psychological problems, mental problems.

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Speaker 1: You could argue that anyone who commits a crime like that,

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Speaker 1: there's always a story that could sway the opinion of

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Speaker 1: saying they.

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Speaker 3: Didn't have the help of therapy to help them because

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Speaker 3: they were because of their Yeah, I mean, freaking look

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Speaker 3: at what's his face that he was, the the kid

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Speaker 3: in jail that oh, come on that documentary that was

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Speaker 3: like ever to make a murder, making a murder, making

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Speaker 3: a murder, the the the cousin or the brother or

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Speaker 3: the he was so he wasn't mental.

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Speaker 2: He didn't even know words properly spectrum.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, so I mean, like, I.

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Speaker 2: Mean, he could have been so easy like okay, okay

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Speaker 2: somebody because I don't know, because you said to all

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Speaker 2: kill somebody like he did. He wasn't smart, you know.

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Speaker 1: Is there evil or is there always a reason?

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Speaker 4: And that and that's that's to your point. I unders

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Speaker 4: I understand that you could go back on everybody and

508
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Speaker 4: there's some kind of story, but I truly feel that

509
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Speaker 4: they are evil to do some of these things. You

510
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Speaker 4: are evil. Ted Bundy is an evil person stuff like that.

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Speaker 4: You are an evil, evil, evil person. Regardless of what's

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Speaker 4: happened to you in your life, you are evil. So

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Speaker 4: I just feel people that are, you know, in that category.

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Speaker 4: It's just like, why waste our tax dollars in people's

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Speaker 4: time to sit on death rover for twenty however, you know,

516
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Speaker 4: twenty plus years whatever the average is. I don't even

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Speaker 4: know what the average is to sit there.

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Speaker 2: So do you think they should take felicity and an't

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Speaker 2: becky up back?

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Speaker 4: Oh that's how we got into this heinous prime did.

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Speaker 2: I'm just curious, like, what do you think that like

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Speaker 2: they should serve?

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Speaker 4: I just think that's you know, take it in, you know,

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Speaker 4: in perspective, like you said, like, all right, were there

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Speaker 4: any tax fraud?

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Speaker 1: Potentially yes, because they wrote it off as a charitable donation.

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Speaker 4: Because that kind then yeah, people that if it comes

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Speaker 4: down to that, it's like, hey, I mean the laws

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Speaker 4: of law.

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Speaker 1: Look, if they're putting away non wealthy families for crimes

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Speaker 1: like this, then you gotta I agree with that.

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Speaker 2: What I don't agree with is making a Well, they

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Speaker 2: are celebrities, so we have to prove.

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Speaker 1: A point, right. I don't like that make an example,

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Speaker 1: make an.

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Speaker 2: Example, right, But I think if you do it with

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Speaker 2: everyone else.

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Speaker 1: Then do it.

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Speaker 4: I think that's a great point by you, because that's

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Speaker 4: probably why the prosecutors their plea deals all include jail time, right,

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Speaker 4: because they it's like almost they have to, like they

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Speaker 4: look terrible if they don't. Yeah, if they don't.

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Speaker 1: And social media is covered with issues like you know,

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Speaker 1: a black mother in somewhere who voted and she was

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Speaker 1: that eligible to vote and didn't realize she was an

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Speaker 1: eligible to vote, and now she's in jail. You know

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Speaker 1: that sort of thing that those comparisons are always going to.

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Speaker 2: Con be in.

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Speaker 4: So many defense attorneys will reference that that case.

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Speaker 2: You know, I'm sorry, that's an actual case.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I can bring up the detail on it, but

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Speaker 4: but yeah, well I'm saying they'll reference Lorie Laughlin and

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Speaker 4: Felicity Huffman's case when you know their clients go through

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Speaker 4: any kind of tax fraud or money and she's or whatever,

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Speaker 4: Like they'll start saying, in you know, Laughlin and Huffman

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Speaker 4: versus the State of California, this happened and they didn't

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Speaker 4: get any time.

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Speaker 1: Why is my client Rosa Maria Ortega voted voter fraud

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Speaker 1: because she voted illegally, says she had no idea because

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Speaker 1: she doesn't speak English that well, and she's doing eight

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Speaker 1: years in prison.

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Speaker 3: Eight years Yeah, see that right there is just ridiculous,

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Speaker 3: ridiculous what that's such?

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Speaker 4: Bs like, how can how can I judge?

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Speaker 1: And it was appealed and it held up an appeal

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Speaker 1: and the Attorney general says it's the open and shut

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Speaker 1: case of voter fraud. She pretended to be a citizen,

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Speaker 1: she voted and she's being punished.

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Speaker 2: Was she doing that to get citizen to pretend that

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Speaker 2: she was she actually a citizen.

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Speaker 1: So the prosecutor is saying she wasn't a citizen, she

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Speaker 1: was pretending to be a citizen. Her team is saying

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Speaker 1: that she had no idea that she couldn't vote. She

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Speaker 1: lives here, she voted. Everyone else's not right, And that's

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Speaker 1: the thing. What's the benefit of voting?

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Speaker 4: What no? I no, I'm saying. I'm from saying from

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Speaker 4: a standpoint, why would she purposely go vote? Like is

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Speaker 4: there anything to gain? Because right, they're not paying, it

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Speaker 4: doesn't it doesn't give you any.

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Speaker 3: But if she's maybe she was trying to prove because

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Speaker 3: she wasn't. She's not technically a citizen in the US.

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Speaker 4: It's a legal.

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Speaker 1: Permanent legal She's not a citizen, she's a legal residence.

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Speaker 2: She's a legal residen.

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Speaker 1: She's not here illegally. She's rather like distinction that I'm

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Speaker 1: not even that clear on the difference to a citizen

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Speaker 1: an illegal permanent residence, right.

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Speaker 4: I think. But to March point, she's probably just caught

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Speaker 4: up in It's like people, she knows, oh, this is

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Speaker 4: what we do, and she's probably like, well, I'm legally

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Speaker 4: I am allowed to live here, so yeah, I guess

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Speaker 4: I'll go vote.

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Speaker 2: Is there any benefits of voting in her situation?

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Speaker 4: That's what I'm saying. What's the benefit?

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Speaker 2: Well, that's what I'm asking. Does anyone know what the

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Speaker 2: benefit could be?

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Speaker 4: She has nothing to gain. It's literally just you know,

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Speaker 4: you're right as a citizen, which she thought she was,

599
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Speaker 4: but she's not. And she just thought she could do it.

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Speaker 4: But she realized what's her master plan here?

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Speaker 8: Right?

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Speaker 2: Let's curious. I'm like, where's the.

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Speaker 9: No.

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Speaker 4: I think it was just situation, a situational thing that exactly,

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Speaker 4: like Mark.

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Speaker 3: Said, Leslie, let us know she our girlfriend, lest they

607
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Speaker 3: always sends us notes. She's like, well on this, I

608
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Speaker 3: think it should have been this. So we are so

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Speaker 3: excited because in the studio and wind Down Studio with

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Speaker 3: Seth cross Note and Stacey Miller, I feel like you

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Speaker 3: guys are turning what is it lemons into lemonade? Right,

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Speaker 3: I mean, you guys, I see this. You guys have

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Speaker 3: Seth cross Note in Stacy Miller's Dumpster Fire podcast is

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Speaker 3: available now wherever you listen to podcasts. So you guys

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Speaker 3: are turning kind of this massive disaster into a silver

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Speaker 3: lining of a podcast.

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Speaker 8: Yeah, that's that's the goal. You know, there's so many stories.

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Speaker 8: You know, the documentaries did a great.

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Speaker 2: Job, but and then there's a Netflix in a Hulu

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Speaker 2: on right exactly okay, and.

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Speaker 8: There's just so much more of the story and there's

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Speaker 8: so many more things going on today. So we just

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Speaker 8: felt like it'd be fun to cover it and also

624
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Speaker 8: maybe draw attention to the people that were victims in

625
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Speaker 8: the Bahamas and continue to raise awareness about their gofund

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Speaker 8: me and stuff like that.

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Speaker 4: So what's the goal behind the podcast? Not only I

628
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Speaker 4: know you talk about the fire festival, but what other

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Speaker 4: things do you guys talk about?

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Speaker 8: So you know, we're kind of in this unique position

631
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Speaker 8: where I went down there as sort of a comedy

632
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Speaker 8: writer to sort of poke fun at the whole influencer angle.

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Speaker 3: And then it's a basic let's just draw some love

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Speaker 3: towards that fantastic because like I.

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Speaker 8: Don't I mean, I don't look like an influencer.

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Speaker 2: So like watching it, I was like, I'm very curious

637
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Speaker 2: and like what his intentions were there.

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Speaker 4: Lately?

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Speaker 8: So you know, we thought, uh, yeah, to turn it

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Speaker 8: into a podcast and maybe learn more about some of

641
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Speaker 8: the things like where do all the money go? You know,

642
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Speaker 8: like you know what else is kind of behind the

643
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Speaker 8: scenes that didn't get talked about on the documentaries?

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Speaker 2: Or how much did you actually pay? Are you allowed

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Speaker 2: to say that?

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Speaker 4: Yeah?

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Speaker 8: A little less than five thousand dollars for that?

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Speaker 3: Okay, seeing okay, because I know there was a couple

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Speaker 3: of ones. There was a there was that like four

650
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Speaker 3: thousand dollars tier, and then there was a what twenty thousand? Yeah,

651
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Speaker 3: there's all these different Yeah, did you get your money back?

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Speaker 3: And did the people get their money back that went

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Speaker 3: to the festival.

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Speaker 8: I have a friend who got stuck in the Miami

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Speaker 8: airport and never got her money back, so she didn't

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Speaker 8: even make it down to the island. So we ended

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Speaker 8: up not getting anything from fire Fire Festival or anything.

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Speaker 8: So I don't think they, to my knowledge, made any

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Speaker 8: refundsay anybody.

660
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Speaker 3: So the people that spent twenty plus green, I mean

661
00:28:48,160 --> 00:28:51,200
Speaker 3: any money at all, didn't get any money back, not

662
00:28:51,320 --> 00:28:51,959
Speaker 3: to my knowledge.

663
00:28:53,200 --> 00:28:55,520
Speaker 2: Stacey, how did you get like into this and with

664
00:28:56,040 --> 00:28:57,000
Speaker 2: how did you guys meet?

665
00:28:57,360 --> 00:28:59,280
Speaker 7: That's sort of a funny story. I have known stuff

666
00:28:59,320 --> 00:29:01,600
Speaker 7: for quite some time. Our neighborhoods backed up together and

667
00:29:02,840 --> 00:29:05,000
Speaker 7: so I's younger than me, but we became friends. He

668
00:29:05,240 --> 00:29:09,280
Speaker 7: ran this blog post that sort of funny content, and

669
00:29:09,400 --> 00:29:11,520
Speaker 7: I was going to help spotor him, so I did,

670
00:29:11,600 --> 00:29:14,240
Speaker 7: and he would toss out things that include and tagged

671
00:29:14,280 --> 00:29:16,719
Speaker 7: me and that sort of thing often. And then one

672
00:29:16,760 --> 00:29:19,240
Speaker 7: morning I woke up and my social media on my

673
00:29:19,320 --> 00:29:22,200
Speaker 7: phone was just going crazy, and I looked and he

674
00:29:22,360 --> 00:29:26,000
Speaker 7: was posting all this content from this fire festival and

675
00:29:26,080 --> 00:29:28,440
Speaker 7: he tagged me, said they will be hearing from Stacy.

676
00:29:28,640 --> 00:29:31,240
Speaker 7: I had never heard of the fire festival, and so

677
00:29:31,360 --> 00:29:34,480
Speaker 7: I was like, what he might be jumping and more

678
00:29:34,520 --> 00:29:37,600
Speaker 7: I was like, this doesn't look good right, And so

679
00:29:37,720 --> 00:29:39,520
Speaker 7: I called him and he was in the airport in

680
00:29:39,520 --> 00:29:41,640
Speaker 7: the Bahamas. As soon as as soon as he had

681
00:29:41,640 --> 00:29:45,240
Speaker 7: said hello, I could tell he was wrecked. Yeah, he

682
00:29:45,360 --> 00:29:47,080
Speaker 7: was wrecked. And so I was like, hey man, okay,

683
00:29:47,600 --> 00:29:49,479
Speaker 7: because well he went into the story. Well I think

684
00:29:49,520 --> 00:29:51,720
Speaker 7: I'm getting ready to get out. I couldn't then in bed.

685
00:29:52,000 --> 00:29:53,880
Speaker 7: I'm going to sleep in two days having anything to

686
00:29:53,920 --> 00:29:56,640
Speaker 7: eat or drink. I'm pretty sure I get on this flight,

687
00:29:56,800 --> 00:29:58,479
Speaker 7: and I said, we'll call you when you get to Miami,

688
00:29:58,880 --> 00:29:59,320
Speaker 7: and he did.

689
00:30:00,240 --> 00:30:01,560
Speaker 2: Why didn't they cancel it?

690
00:30:02,880 --> 00:30:05,479
Speaker 3: So what is Where's why? I just don't did Were

691
00:30:05,520 --> 00:30:07,720
Speaker 3: they going to lose more? Would they have had to

692
00:30:07,840 --> 00:30:08,560
Speaker 3: pay people back?

693
00:30:08,680 --> 00:30:09,360
Speaker 2: Is that the issue?

694
00:30:09,560 --> 00:30:11,920
Speaker 8: There were a lot of things. So Billy had a

695
00:30:12,040 --> 00:30:15,160
Speaker 8: lot of loans do like the week after the festival.

696
00:30:15,240 --> 00:30:17,520
Speaker 8: So if he cancels the festival and people don't show up,

697
00:30:17,760 --> 00:30:20,520
Speaker 8: then you know, he's not going to get a lot

698
00:30:20,600 --> 00:30:24,120
Speaker 8: of the income that he was planning on receiving from

699
00:30:24,920 --> 00:30:28,160
Speaker 8: other investors. So he had like a term sheet from

700
00:30:28,240 --> 00:30:31,040
Speaker 8: Comcast that I think was either ten or twenty five million,

701
00:30:31,080 --> 00:30:33,320
Speaker 8: I can't remember, but they were going to invest in

702
00:30:33,360 --> 00:30:35,280
Speaker 8: the festival. So I think that Billy thought, if I

703
00:30:35,440 --> 00:30:39,240
Speaker 8: pull this off, it'll it'll at least be like proof

704
00:30:39,240 --> 00:30:41,200
Speaker 8: of concept. You know, first year got off to a

705
00:30:41,240 --> 00:30:43,520
Speaker 8: rocky start. But next year, you know there'll be a

706
00:30:43,800 --> 00:30:46,320
Speaker 8: bud light mainstage. You know, like we'll show him that

707
00:30:46,360 --> 00:30:49,360
Speaker 8: it works. But I think he just had to throw

708
00:30:49,440 --> 00:30:53,400
Speaker 8: it because you know, it's all part of like this

709
00:30:53,480 --> 00:30:55,200
Speaker 8: house of cards that he was running.

710
00:30:55,600 --> 00:30:58,320
Speaker 4: Do you think Billy's a bad guy or just subject

711
00:30:58,440 --> 00:31:02,320
Speaker 4: to trying to over succeed and he's just delusional, or

712
00:31:02,760 --> 00:31:04,600
Speaker 4: do you think there's some personality.

713
00:31:05,520 --> 00:31:09,160
Speaker 7: Look, he had this company called Magneesis, the monderstanding.

714
00:31:08,680 --> 00:31:11,719
Speaker 2: That he was it's the credit cards, right, and then

715
00:31:11,760 --> 00:31:14,000
Speaker 2: he goes and puts.

716
00:31:13,800 --> 00:31:18,200
Speaker 7: On this fire festival, which was impossible from the get go, right,

717
00:31:19,040 --> 00:31:21,600
Speaker 7: and then he lures these guys out of their homes,

718
00:31:21,640 --> 00:31:23,600
Speaker 7: out of their state, out of their country, and dumps

719
00:31:23,640 --> 00:31:26,320
Speaker 7: them on a desert island and the sun goes down.

720
00:31:26,360 --> 00:31:28,000
Speaker 7: That's when it gets really dangerous.

721
00:31:28,080 --> 00:31:30,040
Speaker 4: Right, Yeah, so it all blows up.

722
00:31:30,200 --> 00:31:33,400
Speaker 7: He gets indicted, right, gets a lawyer, He gets out

723
00:31:33,480 --> 00:31:36,680
Speaker 7: on pre trial release and does it again.

724
00:31:37,120 --> 00:31:40,720
Speaker 2: Emails right, right, accents vip accents stuff.

725
00:31:40,800 --> 00:31:40,920
Speaker 4: Right.

726
00:31:41,000 --> 00:31:43,200
Speaker 7: So to get back to your original question, Yeah, I

727
00:31:43,280 --> 00:31:45,160
Speaker 7: think he's a special person. I think it takes a

728
00:31:45,240 --> 00:31:47,280
Speaker 7: special depraved heart to do something.

729
00:31:47,640 --> 00:31:48,240
Speaker 1: I agree with you.

730
00:31:48,480 --> 00:31:50,520
Speaker 4: I mean, that's definitely what my opinion is. When you

731
00:31:50,600 --> 00:31:53,320
Speaker 4: said he's done it multiple times and the fact that

732
00:31:53,440 --> 00:31:55,920
Speaker 4: he's on you know, pre trout bail or whatever it was,

733
00:31:56,120 --> 00:31:59,560
Speaker 4: and he still had the nerve to be the same way.

734
00:32:00,320 --> 00:32:02,080
Speaker 2: What did we just take them out back then, babe?

735
00:32:02,160 --> 00:32:04,880
Speaker 2: Because we talked about earlier just taking people out back

736
00:32:04,960 --> 00:32:05,920
Speaker 2: and just shoot.

737
00:32:05,680 --> 00:32:10,560
Speaker 4: Them little more prison sentences, come to my come to

738
00:32:10,640 --> 00:32:11,680
Speaker 4: my court, man, I'll take.

739
00:32:11,600 --> 00:32:14,040
Speaker 2: Care of things, Michael's court. You just take them out back.

740
00:32:14,440 --> 00:32:16,640
Speaker 7: Yeah, that's sort of what happens growing up. You take

741
00:32:16,640 --> 00:32:18,120
Speaker 7: out with the woodshed and you learn your lesson. But

742
00:32:18,440 --> 00:32:21,160
Speaker 7: you know, I've sort of coined him the millennial mate off.

743
00:32:21,960 --> 00:32:24,720
Speaker 4: Yeah, oh yeah, what he is, no question.

744
00:32:25,080 --> 00:32:27,320
Speaker 7: And those folks, man, you know they can go. They

745
00:32:27,840 --> 00:32:29,720
Speaker 7: look at jail, they'll do it again. You got to

746
00:32:29,800 --> 00:32:33,880
Speaker 7: hurt them where they they're there. They keep sort of

747
00:32:34,160 --> 00:32:36,320
Speaker 7: their pride the most, and that's their own pocket.

748
00:32:36,080 --> 00:32:40,120
Speaker 4: Book, right. How how much longer can you guys discuss

749
00:32:40,280 --> 00:32:44,000
Speaker 4: the fire festival specifically? Like what else are there other

750
00:32:44,080 --> 00:32:46,760
Speaker 4: things that you guys are investigating and looking into that

751
00:32:46,920 --> 00:32:48,520
Speaker 4: this kind of stuff has happened, just not to you.

752
00:32:49,120 --> 00:32:51,400
Speaker 8: Yeah, So there are other stories of people that were

753
00:32:52,320 --> 00:32:55,000
Speaker 8: kind of defrauded in other ways, and so a lot

754
00:32:55,040 --> 00:32:58,120
Speaker 8: of the things that kind of the documentary just doesn't

755
00:32:58,160 --> 00:33:01,320
Speaker 8: get a time to go into, is you know, Billy

756
00:33:01,400 --> 00:33:04,000
Speaker 8: was going after unaccredited investors. So there were you know,

757
00:33:04,160 --> 00:33:07,000
Speaker 8: a couple that takes out two hundred thousand dollars their

758
00:33:07,040 --> 00:33:09,320
Speaker 8: whole retirement and invests it with Billy, you know, and

759
00:33:09,440 --> 00:33:11,800
Speaker 8: like you don't hear those stories of those people. So

760
00:33:11,920 --> 00:33:15,360
Speaker 8: there's so many levels to this that are like related

761
00:33:15,400 --> 00:33:17,880
Speaker 8: to fire. They just don't make the headlines because it's

762
00:33:17,960 --> 00:33:21,240
Speaker 8: not you know, the supermodels or the beach or anything

763
00:33:21,280 --> 00:33:23,760
Speaker 8: like that. So there's so many instances of that. And

764
00:33:23,840 --> 00:33:26,840
Speaker 8: then also just kind of the people that were involved,

765
00:33:26,920 --> 00:33:29,320
Speaker 8: like what are they up to now? And they're running

766
00:33:29,400 --> 00:33:33,800
Speaker 8: similar companies, similar structured companies, and you kind of want

767
00:33:33,840 --> 00:33:36,440
Speaker 8: to say, like is this a scam too? So there's

768
00:33:36,440 --> 00:33:37,840
Speaker 8: a lot of kind of threads to follow.

769
00:33:38,200 --> 00:33:40,240
Speaker 4: How did he convince because like, when you know, when

770
00:33:40,240 --> 00:33:43,720
Speaker 4: we were watching the the Netflix we didn't see Hulu one,

771
00:33:43,760 --> 00:33:46,840
Speaker 4: but the net Netflix documentary, how did he convince that

772
00:33:47,000 --> 00:33:49,840
Speaker 4: many you know, people who seem successful in their world

773
00:33:49,920 --> 00:33:52,120
Speaker 4: where the marketing and advertising, this that logistics.

774
00:33:52,200 --> 00:33:53,480
Speaker 3: I mean that one guy was about the suck a

775
00:33:53,560 --> 00:33:56,040
Speaker 3: d like I mean, you know what I mean to

776
00:33:56,120 --> 00:33:58,080
Speaker 3: get these people?

777
00:33:58,240 --> 00:33:59,040
Speaker 2: When do you just say no?

778
00:33:59,360 --> 00:34:03,440
Speaker 7: Yeah? Aut he's a talented young man, and every time

779
00:34:03,520 --> 00:34:05,200
Speaker 7: he went away, he came back with more money. Every

780
00:34:05,240 --> 00:34:07,120
Speaker 7: time they needed more money, he'd leave and come back

781
00:34:07,120 --> 00:34:10,880
Speaker 7: with a couple more million, and so everybody just you know,

782
00:34:11,040 --> 00:34:12,919
Speaker 7: thought he was going to be able to raise enough.

783
00:34:13,480 --> 00:34:15,440
Speaker 7: You know, at some point, I think everybody knew that

784
00:34:15,560 --> 00:34:18,520
Speaker 7: it was impossible. Yeah.

785
00:34:18,600 --> 00:34:22,720
Speaker 4: I remember like two weeks out and there's nothing. It's crazy.

786
00:34:22,800 --> 00:34:27,600
Speaker 7: They were trying to Billy was trying to scam money

787
00:34:27,680 --> 00:34:34,080
Speaker 7: out of Seth the day before her.

788
00:34:33,239 --> 00:34:34,799
Speaker 4: That you talked about on the documentary. Yeah.

789
00:34:35,000 --> 00:34:36,520
Speaker 2: I just feel so bad for the people. I mean,

790
00:34:36,560 --> 00:34:37,759
Speaker 2: I know a lot of people are like, oh, there's

791
00:34:37,800 --> 00:34:39,360
Speaker 2: just these rich kids that are buying.

792
00:34:39,280 --> 00:34:42,479
Speaker 3: But there's still people that spent their hard earned money

793
00:34:43,040 --> 00:34:46,279
Speaker 3: saved up probably to be there, and that's just sad.

794
00:34:46,440 --> 00:34:48,239
Speaker 8: A lot of people paid like five hundred to one

795
00:34:48,280 --> 00:34:51,080
Speaker 8: thousand dollars to go, so it really wasn't this crazy

796
00:34:51,160 --> 00:34:53,480
Speaker 8: thing like we Mark and I went and you know,

797
00:34:53,600 --> 00:34:55,920
Speaker 8: we our original ticket was one thousand dollars, and then

798
00:34:55,960 --> 00:34:58,360
Speaker 8: we thought, all right, we'll do this VIP thing for

799
00:34:58,600 --> 00:35:00,880
Speaker 8: two thousand total. And then and when we saw all

800
00:35:00,920 --> 00:35:03,560
Speaker 8: these crazy things getting added, like twenty five thousand dollars

801
00:35:03,600 --> 00:35:05,839
Speaker 8: yacht package, I was like, I think maybe we're out

802
00:35:05,840 --> 00:35:07,719
Speaker 8: of our league here. So what if we just buy

803
00:35:07,840 --> 00:35:11,040
Speaker 8: this like artist pass and everything will be included. And

804
00:35:11,080 --> 00:35:13,320
Speaker 8: the artist pass is like twenty seven hundred, So I'm like,

805
00:35:13,320 --> 00:35:15,960
Speaker 8: all right, forty seven hundred dollars, Like that's kind of

806
00:35:16,000 --> 00:35:18,440
Speaker 8: my limit for this thing. But that's still four or

807
00:35:18,520 --> 00:35:22,280
Speaker 8: five nights in the Bahamas, a festival, food, drinks included.

808
00:35:22,280 --> 00:35:23,520
Speaker 8: I mean, you had to a festival and it's like

809
00:35:23,560 --> 00:35:25,920
Speaker 8: twenty bucks of beer, so you're, you know, like it's

810
00:35:26,000 --> 00:35:28,239
Speaker 8: not too outrageous. And that was still kind of the

811
00:35:28,360 --> 00:35:31,359
Speaker 8: higher end of it. Like our other two friends that went,

812
00:35:31,560 --> 00:35:33,000
Speaker 8: you know, they paid about a thousand dollars a go.

813
00:35:33,239 --> 00:35:35,560
Speaker 4: What was the first thing that really kind of triggered

814
00:35:35,560 --> 00:35:37,399
Speaker 4: you to be like hmm and might kind of really

815
00:35:37,440 --> 00:35:38,960
Speaker 4: start asking yourself these questions.

816
00:35:39,560 --> 00:35:42,839
Speaker 8: Well, that was so you know, you'd get emails from

817
00:35:42,920 --> 00:35:45,279
Speaker 8: them and it would make you stretch your head. But

818
00:35:45,360 --> 00:35:47,960
Speaker 8: then you'd ask a question and follow up like the wristbands.

819
00:35:48,000 --> 00:35:50,279
Speaker 8: They said, put you know, five hundred dollars for every

820
00:35:50,360 --> 00:35:52,160
Speaker 8: day you're going and I and I replied to them,

821
00:35:52,200 --> 00:35:54,080
Speaker 8: and I said, you know, we've got the artist pass,

822
00:35:54,200 --> 00:35:56,120
Speaker 8: we've got the VP. What could I possibly need to

823
00:35:56,160 --> 00:35:58,080
Speaker 8: give you any more money for? And this is, Oh,

824
00:35:58,120 --> 00:36:00,200
Speaker 8: you're good, don't worry. But you know, if you want

825
00:36:00,200 --> 00:36:02,319
Speaker 8: a plane ride or a boat ride or like, I'm good,

826
00:36:02,360 --> 00:36:05,600
Speaker 8: I don't even a plane on the island. But you know,

827
00:36:05,719 --> 00:36:07,360
Speaker 8: that was all part of them trying to raise some

828
00:36:07,440 --> 00:36:09,840
Speaker 8: money really quickly to pay back some some debts that

829
00:36:09,920 --> 00:36:10,319
Speaker 8: they owed.

830
00:36:10,400 --> 00:36:15,640
Speaker 2: But what happened to jo Rule? Did he get under

831
00:36:15,680 --> 00:36:19,600
Speaker 2: fire for this? A lawyer speaker speaking.

832
00:36:20,239 --> 00:36:26,520
Speaker 7: Question, Yes, Rules, lawyer, We discussed matters. We came to

833
00:36:26,560 --> 00:36:30,399
Speaker 7: the agreement that both parties are gonna focus on other

834
00:36:30,520 --> 00:36:31,320
Speaker 7: business matters.

835
00:36:32,480 --> 00:36:36,960
Speaker 2: Okay, in lawyer terms, that means what. I don't understand

836
00:36:37,040 --> 00:36:39,359
Speaker 2: that that is the official one.

837
00:36:39,640 --> 00:36:44,640
Speaker 8: Okay, But he's facing some other lawsuits. You know, I

838
00:36:44,680 --> 00:36:46,720
Speaker 8: think they've consolidated a bunch of civil suits.

839
00:36:47,040 --> 00:36:49,480
Speaker 2: His name was equally on it, right, Yeah.

840
00:36:49,280 --> 00:36:50,880
Speaker 7: We named him on the complaint.

841
00:36:51,000 --> 00:36:53,400
Speaker 4: Yeah, okay, yeah, do you go do you go with

842
00:36:53,560 --> 00:36:55,719
Speaker 4: Seth anywhere he goes. We're talking about this stuff to

843
00:36:55,760 --> 00:36:57,920
Speaker 4: make sure that, like, I know, you guys have a

844
00:36:58,000 --> 00:37:00,560
Speaker 4: friendship too, But is this also like kind of you know,

845
00:37:00,760 --> 00:37:02,640
Speaker 4: doing your job also and making sure that he doesn't

846
00:37:02,640 --> 00:37:03,440
Speaker 4: say anything.

847
00:37:03,360 --> 00:37:05,520
Speaker 7: Sure, and you know, felt the questions that maybe he

848
00:37:06,800 --> 00:37:08,840
Speaker 7: shouldn't answer and maybe I should answer it. Sure, make

849
00:37:08,880 --> 00:37:11,359
Speaker 7: sure we say things that we're supposed to say. They

850
00:37:11,800 --> 00:37:13,320
Speaker 7: not say things we're not supposed to say.

851
00:37:13,280 --> 00:37:15,640
Speaker 4: Right, because in this delicate of a situation, I'm sure

852
00:37:15,760 --> 00:37:18,279
Speaker 4: any kind of defense on Billy's end they're trying to.

853
00:37:18,520 --> 00:37:21,279
Speaker 4: They probably you know, kind of every detail that you

854
00:37:21,360 --> 00:37:22,040
Speaker 4: say to try to.

855
00:37:22,400 --> 00:37:24,040
Speaker 8: Yeah, we have to be careful. So I mean a

856
00:37:24,080 --> 00:37:26,200
Speaker 8: lot of the things that we're hearing from people are

857
00:37:26,920 --> 00:37:29,120
Speaker 8: you know, their stories of well, this is what I

858
00:37:29,360 --> 00:37:31,440
Speaker 8: experience with Billy. So I have to say, you know,

859
00:37:31,560 --> 00:37:34,400
Speaker 8: this is what John Smith says about X, Y and

860
00:37:34,560 --> 00:37:37,960
Speaker 8: Z and I, you know, talking to credible people, I'm like,

861
00:37:38,040 --> 00:37:40,000
Speaker 8: I know this is a fact, you know, and I

862
00:37:40,160 --> 00:37:42,400
Speaker 8: believe this person, but I still have to frame it that,

863
00:37:43,000 --> 00:37:45,320
Speaker 8: you know, this is the story we heard play this clip,

864
00:37:45,600 --> 00:37:48,120
Speaker 8: you know, because they're pretty wild stories, you know, like

865
00:37:48,640 --> 00:37:50,560
Speaker 8: drug dealers on the island and stuff like that.

866
00:37:50,640 --> 00:37:52,959
Speaker 3: Because even I mean and just like what they said

867
00:37:53,000 --> 00:37:54,839
Speaker 3: that the tents were going to look like and then

868
00:37:54,960 --> 00:37:57,719
Speaker 3: showing up like that, Oh my gosh, you.

869
00:37:57,800 --> 00:38:01,320
Speaker 4: Won the class action suit? What's the timeline on collection?

870
00:38:01,560 --> 00:38:03,360
Speaker 3: It was something like that, Stacy, But how do you

871
00:38:03,440 --> 00:38:06,279
Speaker 3: get that much for if you didn't put It's just like,

872
00:38:06,800 --> 00:38:10,040
Speaker 3: so you only spend actually with five thousand dollars. But

873
00:38:10,120 --> 00:38:12,520
Speaker 3: then but yeah, you're getting five millions, So is that

874
00:38:12,760 --> 00:38:16,160
Speaker 3: just your time? And you're did you get PTSD like

875
00:38:16,719 --> 00:38:17,440
Speaker 3: from the bad.

876
00:38:20,000 --> 00:38:20,920
Speaker 2: From the Bad beds?

877
00:38:21,760 --> 00:38:23,560
Speaker 7: Now, what happened was there was a class action that

878
00:38:23,680 --> 00:38:26,480
Speaker 7: was already filed. It's filed actually out here in California,

879
00:38:27,320 --> 00:38:29,680
Speaker 7: but Mark Garrett goes his firm. By the time Seth

880
00:38:29,760 --> 00:38:32,520
Speaker 7: came back and I met with him in Raley, there

881
00:38:32,560 --> 00:38:34,560
Speaker 7: was a lassuit was already fouled. So we had to

882
00:38:34,640 --> 00:38:37,040
Speaker 7: decide whether we wanted to participate in that class action

883
00:38:37,239 --> 00:38:39,359
Speaker 7: or do we want to bring our own individual action.

884
00:38:39,880 --> 00:38:45,279
Speaker 7: And so we quickly determined that the person who got

885
00:38:45,320 --> 00:38:47,960
Speaker 7: a verdict first across the finish line first was going

886
00:38:48,040 --> 00:38:50,279
Speaker 7: to be in the best position to collect, So we

887
00:38:50,400 --> 00:38:53,840
Speaker 7: opted not to participate in the class action we filed

888
00:38:53,920 --> 00:38:57,400
Speaker 7: our own individual case. We got a verdict against Billy

889
00:38:57,920 --> 00:39:01,120
Speaker 7: for five million dollars as both for mister Crossno and

890
00:39:01,200 --> 00:39:04,640
Speaker 7: mister Thompson. I could ask that question a lot, Jenna

891
00:39:04,719 --> 00:39:06,160
Speaker 7: that well, you know, you guys only spend a couple

892
00:39:06,200 --> 00:39:10,160
Speaker 7: thousand dollars, how'd you wind up with you know, multi

893
00:39:10,760 --> 00:39:14,520
Speaker 7: a million? And the answer that is this in North Carolina,

894
00:39:16,040 --> 00:39:19,040
Speaker 7: when you've been defrauded, the court or the remedy is

895
00:39:19,280 --> 00:39:22,279
Speaker 7: you make the person whole. And the second half of

896
00:39:22,360 --> 00:39:26,760
Speaker 7: that is you make sure this individual doesn't do it again.

897
00:39:27,680 --> 00:39:30,680
Speaker 7: So we sued for punitive damages and so it was

898
00:39:30,760 --> 00:39:33,960
Speaker 7: the punishabillity, you know. One. Secondly, it was to send

899
00:39:34,000 --> 00:39:37,400
Speaker 7: a message to every other person out there that's trying to,

900
00:39:37,680 --> 00:39:41,160
Speaker 7: you know, separate consumers from their cash. You better do

901
00:39:41,280 --> 00:39:44,920
Speaker 7: it lawfully in this state. If not, you're gonna get tattooed.

902
00:39:45,040 --> 00:39:46,960
Speaker 2: But like, will he actually get that money?

903
00:39:47,640 --> 00:39:49,200
Speaker 7: Yes, we believe we're going to be able to satisfy

904
00:39:49,239 --> 00:39:51,960
Speaker 7: that judgment. I can't tell you exactly the specifics of

905
00:39:52,040 --> 00:39:54,440
Speaker 7: that because there's a lot of people circle right now,

906
00:39:54,600 --> 00:39:56,480
Speaker 7: so so yes, but.

907
00:39:56,640 --> 00:39:58,719
Speaker 3: I just I'm curious, like how you get money out

908
00:39:58,760 --> 00:40:02,759
Speaker 3: of someone that has no money. I've always wondered that, well,

909
00:40:02,960 --> 00:40:06,160
Speaker 3: we believe he does where from how like there's no

910
00:40:06,320 --> 00:40:09,080
Speaker 3: investors giving he's living in his or now he's in jail.

911
00:40:09,160 --> 00:40:11,240
Speaker 3: But I mean before that, I mean he lost his penthouse,

912
00:40:11,280 --> 00:40:14,520
Speaker 3: he lost everything, So I don't understand all his investors

913
00:40:14,520 --> 00:40:16,000
Speaker 3: are surely not giving him money.

914
00:40:16,280 --> 00:40:19,120
Speaker 2: Right, So where is it? Where is it? And I

915
00:40:19,160 --> 00:40:24,080
Speaker 2: would like to tell you that you're so annoying. I

916
00:40:24,200 --> 00:40:25,200
Speaker 2: want to know the answer.

917
00:40:26,120 --> 00:40:27,880
Speaker 8: But I mean any assets that he had, you know

918
00:40:27,960 --> 00:40:31,160
Speaker 8: that you can file leans on properties and things like that,

919
00:40:31,400 --> 00:40:34,560
Speaker 8: even if he has owned no no, but I mean

920
00:40:34,680 --> 00:40:36,600
Speaker 8: if he has any income, if he has a trust

921
00:40:36,640 --> 00:40:39,320
Speaker 8: that his parents left, if he has you know, stuff

922
00:40:39,360 --> 00:40:39,560
Speaker 8: like that.

923
00:40:39,760 --> 00:40:42,520
Speaker 10: So but there's also you.

924
00:40:42,560 --> 00:40:47,200
Speaker 8: Know, we believe there are you know, things not in

925
00:40:47,280 --> 00:40:49,960
Speaker 8: the United States, you know, being held.

926
00:40:49,840 --> 00:40:55,439
Speaker 4: Off answer like that, And Billy, I mean that doesn't

927
00:40:55,440 --> 00:40:58,120
Speaker 4: surprise me. You would think someone like that he's got.

928
00:40:59,560 --> 00:41:01,520
Speaker 8: When you have a private pilot that can fly under

929
00:41:01,560 --> 00:41:04,920
Speaker 8: the Bahamas and cat bags account something's kind of easy

930
00:41:04,960 --> 00:41:08,160
Speaker 8: to come from what we've heard put things places.

931
00:41:08,280 --> 00:41:10,239
Speaker 2: So do you guys want to have your own documentary

932
00:41:10,560 --> 00:41:12,959
Speaker 2: kind of spin off? From your podcast. Maybe we've talked

933
00:41:13,000 --> 00:41:13,320
Speaker 2: about it.

934
00:41:13,360 --> 00:41:17,120
Speaker 7: It's funny he owns the uh fire festival tradework.

935
00:41:17,480 --> 00:41:21,080
Speaker 8: Yeah, so we were kind of keeping that under wraps,

936
00:41:21,160 --> 00:41:28,480
Speaker 8: but so mere Yeah, so yeah, I came back and

937
00:41:28,800 --> 00:41:31,840
Speaker 8: and creating the podcast name. I'm pretty risk averse. So

938
00:41:31,880 --> 00:41:33,560
Speaker 8: I called Stacey and I said, I don't want to

939
00:41:33,640 --> 00:41:36,200
Speaker 8: infringe on the fire trademark. And his sister in law

940
00:41:36,200 --> 00:41:38,279
Speaker 8: happens to be an IP attorney, connects me with her.

941
00:41:38,800 --> 00:41:40,440
Speaker 8: She's looking through and she says, no, you can call

942
00:41:40,520 --> 00:41:43,320
Speaker 8: your dumpster fire podcast. And she said, well, fire Festival

943
00:41:43,400 --> 00:41:45,520
Speaker 8: is actually going to expire in about a couple of months.

944
00:41:46,120 --> 00:41:47,880
Speaker 10: I was like, well, what if what if I just

945
00:41:48,360 --> 00:41:48,680
Speaker 10: bought it?

946
00:41:48,920 --> 00:41:50,800
Speaker 8: Like and she's like, yeah, you can do that, and

947
00:41:50,840 --> 00:41:52,399
Speaker 8: so I was like, I can say I own fire

948
00:41:52,480 --> 00:41:55,520
Speaker 8: Festival like quote unquote, and she was like, yeah, you

949
00:41:55,520 --> 00:41:57,000
Speaker 8: can do that, and so I thought it'd be hilarious

950
00:41:57,040 --> 00:42:00,759
Speaker 8: on the podcast, Like the b storyline is can I

951
00:42:00,920 --> 00:42:01,880
Speaker 8: throw a fire festival?

952
00:42:02,080 --> 00:42:02,239
Speaker 9: You know?

953
00:42:02,560 --> 00:42:03,640
Speaker 2: Did you get sued?

954
00:42:03,680 --> 00:42:03,839
Speaker 3: Though?

955
00:42:04,440 --> 00:42:05,239
Speaker 2: Could people see you?

956
00:42:05,280 --> 00:42:09,000
Speaker 3: Because I mean, from like a lawyers standpoint, like is

957
00:42:09,040 --> 00:42:12,719
Speaker 3: that really smart to own that because people could go

958
00:42:12,880 --> 00:42:13,520
Speaker 3: after him or.

959
00:42:13,560 --> 00:42:16,680
Speaker 7: It's an opportunity for sure, but I don't think he

960
00:42:17,719 --> 00:42:19,480
Speaker 7: is not going to set himself up for any liability

961
00:42:19,520 --> 00:42:20,600
Speaker 7: of what's happened in the past.

962
00:42:20,800 --> 00:42:23,040
Speaker 2: Right, Oh yeah, okay, got it, Stacy?

963
00:42:23,160 --> 00:42:24,920
Speaker 4: Is this kind of taking over your practice? Your law

964
00:42:24,960 --> 00:42:26,879
Speaker 4: practice right now? Is just kind of working with Seth

965
00:42:26,960 --> 00:42:28,319
Speaker 4: and kind of figuring all this stuff out.

966
00:42:28,440 --> 00:42:30,080
Speaker 7: Well, we've certainly been very busy. But I mean, I

967
00:42:30,120 --> 00:42:32,480
Speaker 7: got to tell you, I see these fraud cases, you know,

968
00:42:32,600 --> 00:42:34,520
Speaker 7: every day sort of what I do, right, Not not

969
00:42:34,680 --> 00:42:37,920
Speaker 7: every fraud case involves supermodels in the in the Bahamas, Right,

970
00:42:38,239 --> 00:42:41,880
Speaker 7: that's get paid. Yeah, some of them did. But but

971
00:42:41,960 --> 00:42:43,920
Speaker 7: it has been busy, but this has you know, this

972
00:42:44,160 --> 00:42:47,920
Speaker 7: is in essence what we see all the time, somebody

973
00:42:48,000 --> 00:42:53,200
Speaker 7: making a material misrepresentation to lure somebody to purchase something.

974
00:42:53,600 --> 00:42:56,680
Speaker 7: They rely on those misrepresentations and they're damaged.

975
00:42:56,760 --> 00:42:56,880
Speaker 4: Right.

976
00:42:56,960 --> 00:43:00,720
Speaker 7: We see this in essence, and with the internet out today,

977
00:43:01,480 --> 00:43:06,920
Speaker 7: it's you know a plethora of schemes to defraud consumers.

978
00:43:07,640 --> 00:43:07,839
Speaker 2: Wow.

979
00:43:08,160 --> 00:43:11,080
Speaker 4: Do you feel bad at all for capitalizing on the

980
00:43:11,160 --> 00:43:13,560
Speaker 4: whole fire festival thing or is it more like opportunistic,

981
00:43:13,760 --> 00:43:16,440
Speaker 4: like you're just kind of for yourself and you know,

982
00:43:16,600 --> 00:43:17,920
Speaker 4: taking advantage of the situation.

983
00:43:18,239 --> 00:43:20,920
Speaker 8: Yeah, I mean I think that, you know, one of

984
00:43:20,960 --> 00:43:23,920
Speaker 8: our goals is to raise awareness for the people in

985
00:43:24,000 --> 00:43:26,120
Speaker 8: the Bahamas, So we kind of put that on the

986
00:43:26,200 --> 00:43:30,120
Speaker 8: forefront on all of our like on the website, and

987
00:43:30,239 --> 00:43:32,719
Speaker 8: we're you know, encouraging people to donate and if we ever,

988
00:43:32,960 --> 00:43:35,800
Speaker 8: you know, once I guess that the moneys from the

989
00:43:36,480 --> 00:43:38,720
Speaker 8: lawsuit come in, you know, we'd be glad to donate

990
00:43:38,840 --> 00:43:41,440
Speaker 8: a portion of that to the to the Bahamas and

991
00:43:41,480 --> 00:43:44,360
Speaker 8: the people there, because the good thing that the Netflix

992
00:43:44,400 --> 00:43:46,800
Speaker 8: film did was raise awareness to Mary Ann and the

993
00:43:46,840 --> 00:43:47,560
Speaker 8: people down there.

994
00:43:47,680 --> 00:43:47,839
Speaker 4: Yeah.

995
00:43:47,880 --> 00:43:49,960
Speaker 8: I think her GoFundMe was set at one hundred and

996
00:43:50,000 --> 00:43:52,600
Speaker 8: twenty three thousand, and the last time I checked it

997
00:43:52,840 --> 00:43:54,560
Speaker 8: reached about two hundred and thirty thousand.

998
00:43:54,640 --> 00:43:55,520
Speaker 4: Wow, that's fantastic.

999
00:43:55,600 --> 00:43:58,040
Speaker 8: So she's helping because then there's a second go fundme

1000
00:43:58,320 --> 00:44:00,960
Speaker 8: with a goal of four hundred thousand for the for

1001
00:44:01,080 --> 00:44:03,680
Speaker 8: the other workers, and so she's giving her extra to

1002
00:44:03,840 --> 00:44:06,080
Speaker 8: that go fund me because you know, the media runs

1003
00:44:06,120 --> 00:44:08,319
Speaker 8: with that one, and then you know, the next one

1004
00:44:08,520 --> 00:44:09,520
Speaker 8: didn't pop up till like a.

1005
00:44:09,520 --> 00:44:10,160
Speaker 10: Week or two later.

1006
00:44:10,280 --> 00:44:13,080
Speaker 8: So and then you know, if we're able to actually

1007
00:44:13,120 --> 00:44:16,640
Speaker 8: put on a fire festival, we absolutely give a portion back,

1008
00:44:17,000 --> 00:44:19,040
Speaker 8: you know, to the Bahamas, and we wouldn't hold it

1009
00:44:19,120 --> 00:44:21,279
Speaker 8: in the Bahamas. We'd do it somewhere where you know,

1010
00:44:22,120 --> 00:44:23,600
Speaker 8: you're not going to leave people stranded.

1011
00:44:23,719 --> 00:44:26,000
Speaker 4: Would you ever take over kind of that concept and

1012
00:44:26,040 --> 00:44:27,120
Speaker 4: that responsibility to.

1013
00:44:27,640 --> 00:44:30,120
Speaker 8: I would have WHI are the right people because I

1014
00:44:30,120 --> 00:44:31,360
Speaker 8: don't know how to throw a music festival.

1015
00:44:31,440 --> 00:44:32,480
Speaker 7: Yeah, so I'm not.

1016
00:44:34,040 --> 00:44:35,279
Speaker 2: Actually happened, Yeah, you know.

1017
00:44:35,480 --> 00:44:39,480
Speaker 4: Yeah, that would that would be that would be fantastic off.

1018
00:44:39,600 --> 00:44:39,799
Speaker 1: Yeah.

1019
00:44:40,120 --> 00:44:41,960
Speaker 8: So that's kind of the goal with the trademark. It

1020
00:44:42,120 --> 00:44:44,399
Speaker 8: was bought kind of Tongue in Cheek that I thought

1021
00:44:44,480 --> 00:44:47,000
Speaker 8: well or applied for Tongue in Cheek and so we're

1022
00:44:47,000 --> 00:44:50,440
Speaker 8: still through that, going through that process. But if it happens,

1023
00:44:50,600 --> 00:44:51,160
Speaker 8: stay tuned.

1024
00:44:51,400 --> 00:44:53,920
Speaker 3: Well, I love it well Seth and Stacy. You can

1025
00:44:54,000 --> 00:44:57,400
Speaker 3: listen to their podcast, The Dumpster Fire podcast, available wherever you.

1026
00:44:57,440 --> 00:44:59,279
Speaker 2: Listen to podcasts. So, thank you guys so much for

1027
00:44:59,360 --> 00:45:00,520
Speaker 2: coming in there. Interesting.

1028
00:45:00,680 --> 00:45:02,279
Speaker 4: Yeah, thank you, I really appreciate it.

1029
00:45:02,360 --> 00:45:02,600
Speaker 7: Thanks.

1030
00:45:07,120 --> 00:45:07,920
Speaker 2: It was fascinating.

1031
00:45:08,360 --> 00:45:10,200
Speaker 4: Yeah, there's so much.

1032
00:45:10,320 --> 00:45:12,239
Speaker 2: I just think it's I don't know, the owning the

1033
00:45:12,360 --> 00:45:13,640
Speaker 2: fire thing is interesting to me.

1034
00:45:14,239 --> 00:45:16,319
Speaker 1: It seems like it would make them a target, Yeah,

1035
00:45:17,120 --> 00:45:18,239
Speaker 1: for people trying to make.

1036
00:45:18,200 --> 00:45:21,880
Speaker 2: Some Why would you want to redo that disaster?

1037
00:45:22,120 --> 00:45:22,200
Speaker 1: Right?

1038
00:45:22,239 --> 00:45:25,799
Speaker 4: Actually think it's ironic actually kind of like that part.

1039
00:45:26,719 --> 00:45:27,480
Speaker 2: Are the roll up here?

1040
00:45:27,600 --> 00:45:28,000
Speaker 4: They are.

1041
00:45:30,480 --> 00:45:33,760
Speaker 2: Welcome in studio, Jeremy and Audrey Rollo.

1042
00:45:36,440 --> 00:45:37,960
Speaker 4: Yeah, pleasure to be here.

1043
00:45:38,239 --> 00:45:40,160
Speaker 2: Did I say Jeremy again? I always know.

1044
00:45:41,760 --> 00:45:41,960
Speaker 3: I have.

1045
00:45:44,640 --> 00:45:47,920
Speaker 2: Jeremy. It's just okay, it's a Jermy. A lot of

1046
00:45:47,920 --> 00:45:49,120
Speaker 2: people call him Jerry.

1047
00:45:49,280 --> 00:45:51,080
Speaker 10: People spell my name was a g all the time,

1048
00:45:51,200 --> 00:45:52,319
Speaker 10: So that's weird.

1049
00:45:52,600 --> 00:45:53,359
Speaker 2: That's a little weird.

1050
00:45:53,640 --> 00:45:55,239
Speaker 3: You guys have a book out. You're on your book

1051
00:45:55,239 --> 00:45:59,640
Speaker 3: tour now, A love letter life. Yes, it's so good, honestly,

1052
00:45:59,800 --> 00:46:00,640
Speaker 3: so inspire.

1053
00:46:01,160 --> 00:46:01,520
Speaker 4: Thank you.

1054
00:46:01,800 --> 00:46:04,799
Speaker 2: Even Michael was reading it and he was just like, babe, even,

1055
00:46:04,960 --> 00:46:06,520
Speaker 2: come on, it's for the guys too.

1056
00:46:07,160 --> 00:46:07,359
Speaker 1: Yeah.

1057
00:46:08,640 --> 00:46:10,719
Speaker 3: You know, I will say you're totally right, but I

1058
00:46:10,760 --> 00:46:12,719
Speaker 3: will say this is this is what Michael does. He'll

1059
00:46:12,719 --> 00:46:13,920
Speaker 3: be like, I can't wait to read this book, and

1060
00:46:13,960 --> 00:46:15,840
Speaker 3: he never opens it. So when I say even is

1061
00:46:15,840 --> 00:46:17,200
Speaker 3: because he actually opened the book.

1062
00:46:17,719 --> 00:46:18,799
Speaker 2: You're a reader.

1063
00:46:19,360 --> 00:46:22,239
Speaker 4: I've never been a reader. A reader and now I'm

1064
00:46:22,360 --> 00:46:24,920
Speaker 4: trying to Yeah, and it's just the thing is the

1065
00:46:24,960 --> 00:46:26,520
Speaker 4: only time to do is like at night, and then

1066
00:46:26,520 --> 00:46:30,319
Speaker 4: I get five words, and I'm going, yeah, but.

1067
00:46:30,360 --> 00:46:31,799
Speaker 3: It's kind of a little bit of a trigger at

1068
00:46:31,840 --> 00:46:33,680
Speaker 3: times because he's like, I got a book it says

1069
00:46:33,800 --> 00:46:35,680
Speaker 3: you know, how to be an adult. That's one book

1070
00:46:35,719 --> 00:46:36,840
Speaker 3: he wants to read. And I'm like, well, baby, you

1071
00:46:36,880 --> 00:46:38,560
Speaker 3: actually have to open the book.

1072
00:46:39,400 --> 00:46:41,000
Speaker 4: Like, yeah, how more of If I just sit on

1073
00:46:41,080 --> 00:46:45,160
Speaker 4: my nightstand, the words will start when I sleep. Yeah,

1074
00:46:45,920 --> 00:46:46,320
Speaker 4: there we go.

1075
00:46:47,360 --> 00:46:50,240
Speaker 10: That gets into the whole discussion like is audiobooking really reading?

1076
00:46:50,520 --> 00:46:50,759
Speaker 4: Yeah?

1077
00:46:51,200 --> 00:46:53,440
Speaker 2: You know interesting some people think.

1078
00:46:53,400 --> 00:46:57,400
Speaker 10: I think, I think that you're getting the ingesting. The

1079
00:46:57,680 --> 00:47:00,480
Speaker 10: ingestion of listening is obviously way different. And then like

1080
00:47:00,800 --> 00:47:03,279
Speaker 10: read actually reading, And so I'm on the fence of like,

1081
00:47:04,000 --> 00:47:05,640
Speaker 10: I don't know if you can say I read a

1082
00:47:05,680 --> 00:47:06,840
Speaker 10: book if you listen to it.

1083
00:47:06,960 --> 00:47:09,760
Speaker 4: I agree with that, yea, even for someone who doesn't.

1084
00:47:09,840 --> 00:47:12,000
Speaker 10: But I love audiobooking. It's one of my favorite things.

1085
00:47:13,320 --> 00:47:15,160
Speaker 2: Like listening to a podcast. I've never done an audio.

1086
00:47:15,520 --> 00:47:18,080
Speaker 10: You wouldn't say, like you wouldn't say I read a podcast,

1087
00:47:18,160 --> 00:47:18,480
Speaker 10: would you?

1088
00:47:19,040 --> 00:47:19,279
Speaker 9: Yeah?

1089
00:47:20,920 --> 00:47:21,560
Speaker 2: But it depends.

1090
00:47:21,560 --> 00:47:24,120
Speaker 11: Audiobooks though can be it depends on the person doing it,

1091
00:47:24,560 --> 00:47:26,680
Speaker 11: like it depends on the voice of the person reading

1092
00:47:26,719 --> 00:47:29,200
Speaker 11: the book, because sometimes it can be so boring.

1093
00:47:29,360 --> 00:47:32,719
Speaker 10: Yeah, sometimes they read, Yeah, it has to be.

1094
00:47:33,280 --> 00:47:35,200
Speaker 11: The most fun ones are the people that actually, we

1095
00:47:35,280 --> 00:47:37,239
Speaker 11: got to read our own audiobook, which is so fun.

1096
00:47:37,560 --> 00:47:39,120
Speaker 2: It's like our voices read book.

1097
00:47:39,840 --> 00:47:42,160
Speaker 3: I can only read from first person, like I have

1098
00:47:42,280 --> 00:47:45,080
Speaker 3: a hard time reading if it says she said, and

1099
00:47:45,200 --> 00:47:48,600
Speaker 3: this person said, it has to be from the reader.

1100
00:47:48,800 --> 00:47:51,040
Speaker 3: So like Emily Giffen is one of my favorite authors.

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00:47:51,160 --> 00:47:53,320
Speaker 2: Love her to death. But she writes always in that

1102
00:47:53,600 --> 00:47:54,680
Speaker 2: first person, so.

1103
00:47:54,760 --> 00:47:57,319
Speaker 4: Interesting, like when we read Jolie our daughter or three

1104
00:47:57,400 --> 00:48:00,719
Speaker 4: year old books and it's always dialogue and it's like

1105
00:48:00,880 --> 00:48:03,440
Speaker 4: every other sense he said, they exclaim. But it's just

1106
00:48:03,520 --> 00:48:06,239
Speaker 4: like it's tiring to read every sentence. You have to

1107
00:48:06,360 --> 00:48:08,160
Speaker 4: read that, you know, react.

1108
00:48:07,880 --> 00:48:09,759
Speaker 1: If I do, I do voices and there I don't

1109
00:48:09,800 --> 00:48:10,560
Speaker 1: have to say that, he said.

1110
00:48:10,640 --> 00:48:12,080
Speaker 4: She started doing voices.

1111
00:48:12,120 --> 00:48:12,960
Speaker 1: You can skip those lines.

1112
00:48:13,080 --> 00:48:14,560
Speaker 2: When she starts to learn how to read, She's like,

1113
00:48:14,680 --> 00:48:17,560
Speaker 2: what you're missing? And I'm like, I don't care. We

1114
00:48:17,719 --> 00:48:19,040
Speaker 2: do we skip a lot?

1115
00:48:19,440 --> 00:48:20,160
Speaker 1: Yeah, a lot?

1116
00:48:21,000 --> 00:48:22,480
Speaker 4: Or make it up. I actually don't anymore.

1117
00:48:22,600 --> 00:48:26,279
Speaker 2: You don't anymore? No, really, I read her every word live.

1118
00:48:26,440 --> 00:48:29,640
Speaker 2: Oh you guys, how old your daughter? Diligent nineteen months

1119
00:48:30,040 --> 00:48:30,840
Speaker 2: nineteen months.

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Speaker 1: Are we so fun?

1121
00:48:31,880 --> 00:48:35,200
Speaker 2: Are we going for baby too? Like, definitely we want

1122
00:48:35,239 --> 00:48:35,919
Speaker 2: to have more kids.

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00:48:36,040 --> 00:48:38,480
Speaker 10: Yeah, I'm ready to have another. No, I don't want

1124
00:48:38,520 --> 00:48:40,680
Speaker 10: them to be too far apart. I'm like, yeah, they

1125
00:48:40,800 --> 00:48:43,160
Speaker 10: got to be friends, Like I don't want one to

1126
00:48:43,200 --> 00:48:45,600
Speaker 10: be a senior in high school looking at their freshman's sister,

1127
00:48:45,760 --> 00:48:47,400
Speaker 10: you know, like how it was with me.

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Speaker 3: Really yeah, but my brother he wouldn't even let me

1129
00:48:50,600 --> 00:48:52,240
Speaker 3: like ride in his car on the way to school

1130
00:48:52,520 --> 00:48:54,279
Speaker 3: because he didn't want to be associated with her.

1131
00:48:54,840 --> 00:48:57,440
Speaker 2: That is why it is so sad. I know, your

1132
00:48:57,520 --> 00:48:59,120
Speaker 2: only brother or only siblings.

1133
00:49:00,040 --> 00:49:02,440
Speaker 3: Well, well no, I have technically have two half sisters,

1134
00:49:02,600 --> 00:49:06,200
Speaker 3: but they're super young. But but yeah, so my older brother.

1135
00:49:06,280 --> 00:49:08,319
Speaker 3: But yeah, he would never let me ride in his car,

1136
00:49:08,400 --> 00:49:10,040
Speaker 3: and if I did, I had to sit in the back,

1137
00:49:10,160 --> 00:49:11,759
Speaker 3: like I could not be associated with him.

1138
00:49:12,280 --> 00:49:14,480
Speaker 10: That's where like being a twin was so fun. Yeah,

1139
00:49:14,760 --> 00:49:16,719
Speaker 10: we were read default friend.

1140
00:49:16,880 --> 00:49:18,680
Speaker 2: Really you had no choice, Yeah, we had no He

1141
00:49:18,840 --> 00:49:20,240
Speaker 2: was there always.

1142
00:49:20,080 --> 00:49:22,839
Speaker 10: You know, yeah for sure, and we rode together every day,

1143
00:49:23,160 --> 00:49:25,320
Speaker 10: you know, unless we're doing something different after school.

1144
00:49:25,560 --> 00:49:27,720
Speaker 4: So I love I love that kind of twin dynamic

1145
00:49:27,800 --> 00:49:30,160
Speaker 4: where it's like you guys embrace it. Yeah, you're just

1146
00:49:30,239 --> 00:49:32,000
Speaker 4: like you love each other for it, because some don't

1147
00:49:32,040 --> 00:49:36,000
Speaker 4: for oh, absolutely some kind of independency issue where it's

1148
00:49:36,040 --> 00:49:38,600
Speaker 4: just like I'm me, he's there, you know. Yep, you

1149
00:49:38,680 --> 00:49:40,400
Speaker 4: don't want to be affiliated with each other.

1150
00:49:40,520 --> 00:49:42,799
Speaker 3: Can I just ask on your family side first? Yeah,

1151
00:49:43,000 --> 00:49:46,960
Speaker 3: just is does Dwarfism run genetically? I don't know how

1152
00:49:47,040 --> 00:49:48,759
Speaker 3: that because both of your parents are.

1153
00:49:48,760 --> 00:49:50,600
Speaker 10: Dwarfs, right, youna, what a nightmare question.

1154
00:49:50,760 --> 00:49:53,319
Speaker 2: I'm sorry, I'm like, you did film the TV show,

1155
00:49:53,440 --> 00:49:54,000
Speaker 2: so like I.

1156
00:49:54,040 --> 00:49:57,799
Speaker 10: Have to like, I'm totally kidding. I'm totally kidding. It's

1157
00:49:57,840 --> 00:50:01,400
Speaker 10: actually really weird. You You guys are just as likely

1158
00:50:01,480 --> 00:50:02,880
Speaker 10: to have a little person as I am.

1159
00:50:03,080 --> 00:50:05,640
Speaker 11: Really for us, because we don't because it's a dominant

1160
00:50:05,760 --> 00:50:10,000
Speaker 11: jean well even that it's kind of confusing, but yeah,

1161
00:50:10,160 --> 00:50:12,120
Speaker 11: it's a dominant gene for the most part, but you know,

1162
00:50:12,160 --> 00:50:12,919
Speaker 11: the whole gene pool.

1163
00:50:12,960 --> 00:50:14,960
Speaker 10: I feel like, so when people still don't know what's

1164
00:50:15,000 --> 00:50:15,600
Speaker 10: going on in that.

1165
00:50:15,640 --> 00:50:18,160
Speaker 3: Realm, I just know that Mike's left eye has the

1166
00:50:18,200 --> 00:50:21,640
Speaker 3: same left eye Jace. Jeans are like insane right out right? Yeah,

1167
00:50:21,800 --> 00:50:23,720
Speaker 3: oh crazy, but I mean jeans are just like nuts.

1168
00:50:23,880 --> 00:50:26,799
Speaker 10: Yeah, they're crazy and so like Audrey's in my cape,

1169
00:50:27,040 --> 00:50:29,480
Speaker 10: or possibility of having a little person to be same

1170
00:50:29,560 --> 00:50:31,719
Speaker 10: as your guys is at the end of the day,

1171
00:50:31,719 --> 00:50:33,400
Speaker 10: if you broke it down, which is an interesting thing

1172
00:50:33,920 --> 00:50:34,879
Speaker 10: because you wouldn't think.

1173
00:50:34,840 --> 00:50:38,880
Speaker 2: So, you know, but is your is your brother on

1174
00:50:39,120 --> 00:50:40,520
Speaker 2: normal size? I guess how do I say that?

1175
00:50:41,200 --> 00:50:43,840
Speaker 10: When is a little person? Oh, which is like the

1176
00:50:43,920 --> 00:50:46,840
Speaker 10: weird part about it. And then two, I've got a

1177
00:50:46,920 --> 00:50:49,520
Speaker 10: younger sister and then a younger brother. We're all three

1178
00:50:49,600 --> 00:50:52,960
Speaker 10: years apart. So Zach and I twins, twenty nine sister

1179
00:50:53,480 --> 00:50:56,359
Speaker 10: and then younger brother, all three years apart. And it's

1180
00:50:56,400 --> 00:50:59,960
Speaker 10: what's really weird is like I'm perfectly healthy, average high

1181
00:51:00,120 --> 00:51:04,480
Speaker 10: person in Zach's actually a really healthy, very healthy a

1182
00:51:04,600 --> 00:51:06,400
Speaker 10: condo pleasure dwarfs. So it's kind of funny how that

1183
00:51:06,480 --> 00:51:10,000
Speaker 10: all worked. We call them acon but a condoplasia.

1184
00:51:10,120 --> 00:51:10,680
Speaker 1: Yeah, what is that?

1185
00:51:10,840 --> 00:51:14,160
Speaker 10: There's like several hundred types of Dwarfism out there.

1186
00:51:14,760 --> 00:51:15,280
Speaker 4: It's crazy.

1187
00:51:15,360 --> 00:51:18,280
Speaker 10: Yeah, So like there's different types of acons, there's hypoacons,

1188
00:51:18,320 --> 00:51:20,359
Speaker 10: there's you know, it gets crazy. There's a whole LP

1189
00:51:20,440 --> 00:51:22,960
Speaker 10: a Little People of America. There's a whole organization where

1190
00:51:22,960 --> 00:51:25,759
Speaker 10: people meet every year and this is a whole rabbit trail,

1191
00:51:25,800 --> 00:51:28,560
Speaker 10: but like it gets really crazy. There's like a we're kids,

1192
00:51:28,640 --> 00:51:33,080
Speaker 10: so mean to you about yeah you know, yeah, I

1193
00:51:33,160 --> 00:51:38,520
Speaker 10: would say there were definitely, Yeah, there were definitely times

1194
00:51:38,560 --> 00:51:40,880
Speaker 10: where it got a little intense, like even in the

1195
00:51:41,000 --> 00:51:44,600
Speaker 10: height of like filming like TV years, how many years?

1196
00:51:45,200 --> 00:51:47,520
Speaker 4: Oh boy, this is our world?

1197
00:51:47,640 --> 00:51:48,920
Speaker 10: Yeah, our sixteenth year.

1198
00:51:49,320 --> 00:51:49,560
Speaker 1: Wow.

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Speaker 10: Yeah, but we're not film. Audrey and I were done.

1200
00:51:53,239 --> 00:51:56,640
Speaker 10: So we stepped away two years ago to write books

1201
00:51:56,680 --> 00:51:59,920
Speaker 10: and just pursue just too hard. As you know, it's

1202
00:52:00,239 --> 00:52:03,279
Speaker 10: have you done anything for fifteen years? It just it

1203
00:52:03,440 --> 00:52:05,359
Speaker 10: just gets to the point where you're like, I'm ready

1204
00:52:05,400 --> 00:52:08,080
Speaker 10: to go do something else, you know. And then then

1205
00:52:08,080 --> 00:52:10,520
Speaker 10: I married Audrey really and it's like, whoa, we got

1206
00:52:10,600 --> 00:52:13,000
Speaker 10: some passion here, So let's go do something with the

1207
00:52:13,040 --> 00:52:15,680
Speaker 10: tools we feel like we've been given. Let's go exercise

1208
00:52:15,719 --> 00:52:18,000
Speaker 10: some of this. If you have different avenues than necessarily

1209
00:52:18,560 --> 00:52:20,160
Speaker 10: you know, the reality television show.

1210
00:52:19,960 --> 00:52:20,440
Speaker 1: I grew up on.

1211
00:52:20,520 --> 00:52:22,880
Speaker 10: Plus, it just got to a point to your point, Jenneral,

1212
00:52:23,000 --> 00:52:25,680
Speaker 10: it's like it got hard. So it was a little hard,

1213
00:52:25,840 --> 00:52:26,000
Speaker 10: you know.

1214
00:52:26,280 --> 00:52:28,040
Speaker 4: How did the show you guys be on the show,

1215
00:52:28,120 --> 00:52:30,000
Speaker 4: And when Audrey came in the picture, like affect your

1216
00:52:30,040 --> 00:52:32,160
Speaker 4: dating life and you know, in a positive but then

1217
00:52:32,200 --> 00:52:32,920
Speaker 4: also negative.

1218
00:52:33,320 --> 00:52:35,680
Speaker 10: That's a good question. Well, one cool thing about our

1219
00:52:35,719 --> 00:52:37,880
Speaker 10: book is like we kind of tell the story that

1220
00:52:38,040 --> 00:52:40,440
Speaker 10: was never told, you know, because they filmed our wedding.

1221
00:52:41,000 --> 00:52:43,279
Speaker 10: There's like two point four two point three million people

1222
00:52:43,320 --> 00:52:49,160
Speaker 10: watched it, but nobody followed our courtship and our dating

1223
00:52:49,320 --> 00:52:49,960
Speaker 10: and that whole.

1224
00:52:49,840 --> 00:52:53,719
Speaker 11: Because we did long distance. Yeah, our entire dating relationship.

1225
00:52:53,760 --> 00:52:56,080
Speaker 11: So it was like they literally couldn't film it. And

1226
00:52:56,160 --> 00:52:58,640
Speaker 11: Jeremy was kind of not really on the show as much.

1227
00:52:58,680 --> 00:53:01,880
Speaker 2: At the time. I was in Santa Barbara, I was

1228
00:53:01,960 --> 00:53:03,319
Speaker 2: at school. What did you guys meet?

1229
00:53:03,400 --> 00:53:04,319
Speaker 1: So blind date?

1230
00:53:04,600 --> 00:53:06,800
Speaker 11: Oh, that's right, set up by set up by friends,

1231
00:53:06,840 --> 00:53:09,120
Speaker 11: though it wasn't just like random blind date. Yeah, we

1232
00:53:09,520 --> 00:53:11,120
Speaker 11: both trusted our friends that were dating.

1233
00:53:11,160 --> 00:53:12,920
Speaker 2: Did you watch did you know?

1234
00:53:13,239 --> 00:53:15,759
Speaker 11: I'd never seen the show, but I knew of the

1235
00:53:15,800 --> 00:53:18,520
Speaker 11: show because everyone in Oregon knew of the pumpkin Patch.

1236
00:53:19,040 --> 00:53:21,040
Speaker 11: So the pumpkin patch was like a thing before the show.

1237
00:53:21,080 --> 00:53:24,160
Speaker 11: It was like their family had this pumpkin patch that

1238
00:53:24,280 --> 00:53:26,360
Speaker 11: everyone went to every weekend in October.

1239
00:53:26,440 --> 00:53:29,680
Speaker 2: It is a huge thing. And then so I knew

1240
00:53:29,719 --> 00:53:31,640
Speaker 2: of that, but I didn't know of the TV show.

1241
00:53:31,840 --> 00:53:34,000
Speaker 10: Yeah, and then our friends basically bagdask like, you guys

1242
00:53:34,040 --> 00:53:35,800
Speaker 10: have got to meet, and so we're like, okay, so

1243
00:53:35,960 --> 00:53:36,239
Speaker 10: we did.

1244
00:53:36,600 --> 00:53:40,080
Speaker 4: Did you know from the Blind from the Good Girl? Really? Well?

1245
00:53:40,080 --> 00:53:41,000
Speaker 2: Do you mean to read the book?

1246
00:53:41,320 --> 00:53:46,600
Speaker 4: I knows our listeners need. That's sitting. That's sitting. That's

1247
00:53:46,600 --> 00:53:48,360
Speaker 4: the next one in my lineup. So I'm hoping the

1248
00:53:48,400 --> 00:53:52,360
Speaker 4: same to be an adult relationship.

1249
00:53:52,480 --> 00:53:56,759
Speaker 2: Okay, there you go. They seem like compatible. What do

1250
00:53:56,800 --> 00:53:58,640
Speaker 2: you want people? What's the takeaway for y'all?

1251
00:53:58,760 --> 00:53:58,960
Speaker 1: Book?

1252
00:53:59,600 --> 00:54:02,000
Speaker 10: Yeah, so we it would be a success and that

1253
00:54:02,080 --> 00:54:04,279
Speaker 10: we're already seeing kind of some of this response come in,

1254
00:54:04,400 --> 00:54:05,480
Speaker 10: which is just I've read.

1255
00:54:05,880 --> 00:54:09,600
Speaker 2: We follow each other on Special. I love seeing everyone's comments.

1256
00:54:09,680 --> 00:54:12,400
Speaker 10: It's been so special. But we would want people to

1257
00:54:12,440 --> 00:54:16,200
Speaker 10: put down the book and feel absolutely ignited, not just ignited,

1258
00:54:16,239 --> 00:54:18,680
Speaker 10: but equipped and inspired to write their own love of

1259
00:54:18,760 --> 00:54:20,319
Speaker 10: their life, to go out and pursue a love story

1260
00:54:20,360 --> 00:54:22,560
Speaker 10: that they would actually want read back to them one day.

1261
00:54:22,840 --> 00:54:24,440
Speaker 10: So we believe we're all writing our love story, and

1262
00:54:24,480 --> 00:54:25,560
Speaker 10: at the end of our life, we're all going to

1263
00:54:25,600 --> 00:54:28,120
Speaker 10: have our life song, if you will, sung back to us,

1264
00:54:28,200 --> 00:54:29,960
Speaker 10: and we hope you like what you hear in the

1265
00:54:30,000 --> 00:54:32,160
Speaker 10: same way. We want to live the story every single

1266
00:54:32,239 --> 00:54:34,319
Speaker 10: day and ignite people to do that so that when

1267
00:54:34,360 --> 00:54:36,200
Speaker 10: they do get to the end of their life, they

1268
00:54:36,239 --> 00:54:37,600
Speaker 10: have a story that they want to read, that they

1269
00:54:37,600 --> 00:54:38,640
Speaker 10: would want read back to them.

1270
00:54:38,719 --> 00:54:41,160
Speaker 2: So that's what we that's like a notebook of you.

1271
00:54:41,520 --> 00:54:43,319
Speaker 10: Yeah, that's like our hope for what the book does

1272
00:54:43,400 --> 00:54:45,640
Speaker 10: to people. And I guess the reason is because we

1273
00:54:45,719 --> 00:54:49,120
Speaker 10: just think we believe relationships and the marriage relationships specifically

1274
00:54:49,239 --> 00:54:52,360
Speaker 10: is just so powerful. It's like, why aren't we pressing

1275
00:54:52,400 --> 00:54:52,759
Speaker 10: into them?

1276
00:54:53,040 --> 00:54:56,800
Speaker 4: How do you guys handle adversity or issues within your marriage?

1277
00:54:56,840 --> 00:55:00,640
Speaker 4: Because again, I mean your book, stuff that I have

1278
00:55:00,760 --> 00:55:02,600
Speaker 4: read in it and just talking to you guys on

1279
00:55:02,680 --> 00:55:04,520
Speaker 4: your podcast and everything. You guys are so in love,

1280
00:55:04,560 --> 00:55:06,400
Speaker 4: you guys are so affectionate and everything. But when it

1281
00:55:06,480 --> 00:55:09,000
Speaker 4: comes to those hard times, how do you guys handle

1282
00:55:09,040 --> 00:55:09,799
Speaker 4: those and kind of work?

1283
00:55:10,520 --> 00:55:10,719
Speaker 7: Yeah?

1284
00:55:12,200 --> 00:55:13,239
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, give me the hard ones.

1285
00:55:13,400 --> 00:55:15,600
Speaker 11: Yeah, of course you get to say the love the

1286
00:55:15,640 --> 00:55:21,080
Speaker 11: amazing thing about our book, babe, Yeah, no, yeah, I

1287
00:55:21,160 --> 00:55:23,200
Speaker 11: mean that is something that we do talk about a

1288
00:55:23,280 --> 00:55:25,040
Speaker 11: lot in the book because we just we didn't want

1289
00:55:25,080 --> 00:55:27,319
Speaker 11: to be you know, the world doesn't need another highlight reel, right,

1290
00:55:27,400 --> 00:55:30,640
Speaker 11: So we wanted to share like the struggles, the reality

1291
00:55:30,840 --> 00:55:33,120
Speaker 11: of the messy stuff of our relationship in the book.

1292
00:55:33,520 --> 00:55:35,399
Speaker 11: So we talk a lot about there's a chapter called

1293
00:55:35,400 --> 00:55:38,000
Speaker 11: the Code of Conflict, and we talk a lot about

1294
00:55:38,120 --> 00:55:41,680
Speaker 11: just how we handle conflict in our relationship and how

1295
00:55:41,760 --> 00:55:45,920
Speaker 11: we try to view conflict as an opportunity for learning

1296
00:55:46,000 --> 00:55:50,359
Speaker 11: more about each other. And that doesn't always necessarily work out,

1297
00:55:51,360 --> 00:55:54,120
Speaker 11: but we've kind of set ourselves these boundaries for when

1298
00:55:54,160 --> 00:55:55,919
Speaker 11: we do fight, how to do it in a fair way.

1299
00:55:56,640 --> 00:56:00,600
Speaker 11: And so I want to I feel like we are

1300
00:56:00,719 --> 00:56:03,720
Speaker 11: kind of non negotiables for conflict. Like, when conflict does arise,

1301
00:56:03,760 --> 00:56:06,480
Speaker 11: it's inevitable, But how do we prevent conflict from turning

1302
00:56:06,520 --> 00:56:08,800
Speaker 11: into fighting? How do we keep it in like a

1303
00:56:08,880 --> 00:56:11,840
Speaker 11: conflict to resolve conflict to resolve mode as opposed to

1304
00:56:12,000 --> 00:56:13,160
Speaker 11: conflict to fighting it?

1305
00:56:13,360 --> 00:56:15,719
Speaker 10: Yeah, because ultimately, like what's the point, what's the goal?

1306
00:56:15,960 --> 00:56:16,560
Speaker 1: What's the point?

1307
00:56:16,640 --> 00:56:18,799
Speaker 10: Like we believe, you know, the point of marriage isn't

1308
00:56:18,960 --> 00:56:22,240
Speaker 10: just marriage itself, right, because if the point of marriage

1309
00:56:22,360 --> 00:56:24,719
Speaker 10: was marriage, then the ultimate goal would probably be happiness

1310
00:56:24,840 --> 00:56:27,879
Speaker 10: or something. But we think happiness is actually a byproduct

1311
00:56:28,520 --> 00:56:31,240
Speaker 10: of how you would treat your marriage, or approach conflict

1312
00:56:31,280 --> 00:56:33,359
Speaker 10: and whatnot. So I think the perspective of, like, Okay,

1313
00:56:33,400 --> 00:56:36,560
Speaker 10: we're on a mission together. We got goals, we've got

1314
00:56:36,600 --> 00:56:39,480
Speaker 10: an agenda, we've got a framework to achieve this. It's

1315
00:56:39,520 --> 00:56:44,880
Speaker 10: so funny. Every single successful business, sports team, organization, you

1316
00:56:45,040 --> 00:56:46,680
Speaker 10: name it, on the planet, what do they all have.

1317
00:56:47,640 --> 00:56:49,880
Speaker 10: They all have a mission statement, they all have goals,

1318
00:56:50,360 --> 00:56:52,080
Speaker 10: they all have a strategy for.

1319
00:56:52,239 --> 00:56:55,160
Speaker 11: Success, they all have yearly summits, they all have Well,

1320
00:56:55,200 --> 00:56:56,680
Speaker 11: why don't we ever do that with our marriages? Like

1321
00:56:57,200 --> 00:57:01,200
Speaker 11: they're designing success in their you know, all every other

1322
00:57:01,360 --> 00:57:03,200
Speaker 11: organization does that, but we don't do that with our marriages.

1323
00:57:03,239 --> 00:57:04,200
Speaker 11: Why aren't we as intentional?

1324
00:57:04,280 --> 00:57:06,200
Speaker 10: It's like we get married and then we throw everything

1325
00:57:06,239 --> 00:57:07,440
Speaker 10: up in there. We go, well, I hope this one

1326
00:57:07,480 --> 00:57:07,799
Speaker 10: works out.

1327
00:57:07,920 --> 00:57:09,040
Speaker 2: Let's just let it be spontaneous.

1328
00:57:09,560 --> 00:57:12,000
Speaker 10: But I'm going to train really hard and put diet

1329
00:57:12,080 --> 00:57:15,680
Speaker 10: restrictions in everything for my half marathon. Right right, It's like,

1330
00:57:16,280 --> 00:57:18,360
Speaker 10: what are we doing? It's like, of course, of course

1331
00:57:18,520 --> 00:57:21,160
Speaker 10: things are failing left and rights, because we're literally planning

1332
00:57:21,240 --> 00:57:24,080
Speaker 10: for failure. So that being said, going back to your

1333
00:57:24,200 --> 00:57:27,000
Speaker 10: question of like, you know, handling conflict and stuff, I

1334
00:57:27,040 --> 00:57:29,160
Speaker 10: think we just have a fun perspective of like, Okay,

1335
00:57:29,240 --> 00:57:31,920
Speaker 10: we're on mission here, so how do we plan for

1336
00:57:32,040 --> 00:57:34,640
Speaker 10: success because there's going to be conflict? Of course, can't

1337
00:57:34,640 --> 00:57:37,160
Speaker 10: get rid of it. Like literally, there's always going to

1338
00:57:37,160 --> 00:57:38,520
Speaker 10: be conflict because I'm going to be a different me

1339
00:57:38,640 --> 00:57:40,440
Speaker 10: next year. She's going to have to deal with a

1340
00:57:40,480 --> 00:57:41,880
Speaker 10: different me conflict.

1341
00:57:42,000 --> 00:57:44,280
Speaker 4: I think what you guys said is great is you know,

1342
00:57:44,400 --> 00:57:46,800
Speaker 4: what's the ultimate goal of whatever you do is you guys,

1343
00:57:46,840 --> 00:57:49,600
Speaker 4: whatever the conflict is. And I think that's where, at

1344
00:57:49,680 --> 00:57:52,160
Speaker 4: least in the infancy, Jane and I kind of look back,

1345
00:57:52,280 --> 00:57:55,480
Speaker 4: we realize we were in the infancy of we're just

1346
00:57:55,520 --> 00:57:59,160
Speaker 4: trying to be right. That doesn't that's not the purpose really.

1347
00:57:58,960 --> 00:58:01,280
Speaker 2: I think what we wanted to be heard. Yeah, we

1348
00:58:01,760 --> 00:58:02,840
Speaker 2: didn't know how to hear each other.

1349
00:58:03,200 --> 00:58:04,880
Speaker 4: Ultimately, we wanted to be heard, but we did it

1350
00:58:04,960 --> 00:58:06,040
Speaker 4: by trying to win.

1351
00:58:06,400 --> 00:58:08,640
Speaker 2: Yeah, you know, no, no, hear me, hear me, hear me.

1352
00:58:08,760 --> 00:58:09,560
Speaker 2: It's like, well, I'm not.

1353
00:58:10,080 --> 00:58:11,920
Speaker 4: And it's like if we felt like we won, then

1354
00:58:12,000 --> 00:58:14,360
Speaker 4: we felt like we were heard. But really that's not

1355
00:58:15,040 --> 00:58:15,280
Speaker 4: at all.

1356
00:58:15,440 --> 00:58:17,760
Speaker 10: That is a very awesome statement.

1357
00:58:18,160 --> 00:58:20,960
Speaker 3: Yeah, and then our voices just kept getting hired. Were

1358
00:58:21,160 --> 00:58:23,000
Speaker 3: like wow, we're well getting that's therapist.

1359
00:58:23,520 --> 00:58:23,920
Speaker 4: I love.

1360
00:58:26,720 --> 00:58:30,000
Speaker 10: The volume of your voice. It does not determine the

1361
00:58:30,080 --> 00:58:33,360
Speaker 10: validity of your argument, but it feels like it's so much.

1362
00:58:33,920 --> 00:58:35,920
Speaker 2: It's not for Jeremy though.

1363
00:58:36,000 --> 00:58:38,920
Speaker 11: Jeremy's voice, I'm a nine. So I'm like, he's never

1364
00:58:38,960 --> 00:58:42,640
Speaker 11: a little peacemaker. He is like the passive aggressive in

1365
00:58:42,720 --> 00:58:46,280
Speaker 11: the argument. You know, he's just like disappear gone, there's

1366
00:58:46,320 --> 00:58:49,320
Speaker 11: no Yeah, it's just I'm like, wait, where's the intensity?

1367
00:58:49,320 --> 00:58:50,320
Speaker 11: You're gonna match me back?

1368
00:58:50,400 --> 00:58:50,520
Speaker 10: Right?

1369
00:58:50,960 --> 00:58:51,320
Speaker 7: What are you?

1370
00:58:52,440 --> 00:58:54,800
Speaker 4: I'm the intensity and jan is the passive aggressive. So

1371
00:58:54,920 --> 00:58:56,560
Speaker 4: even I'll get animated, I'll be like, you know what,

1372
00:58:56,800 --> 00:58:59,320
Speaker 4: like what's going on? And Jenmy like, well, you're getting heightened.

1373
00:58:59,320 --> 00:59:02,280
Speaker 4: I'm like no, I'm just that's I'm just kind of like, no,

1374
00:59:02,400 --> 00:59:04,640
Speaker 4: I'm talking about this. You don't need to be so

1375
00:59:04,720 --> 00:59:07,080
Speaker 4: hiphry just because I get animated. She says, I'm being mean.

1376
00:59:07,400 --> 00:59:09,400
Speaker 4: I actually haven't said anything mean. I don't know.

1377
00:59:09,520 --> 00:59:11,320
Speaker 10: Just I don't know about you, Jenama. Sometimes I've got

1378
00:59:11,400 --> 00:59:14,280
Speaker 10: to like check my spirit because sometimes we'll get into

1379
00:59:14,760 --> 00:59:17,960
Speaker 10: what Emerson Egritch calls he did fellowship, what do you

1380
00:59:18,040 --> 00:59:21,000
Speaker 10: call it? He did fellowship? And like Audill get all

1381
00:59:21,040 --> 00:59:23,280
Speaker 10: animated and get all crazy, and I'll just go, babe,

1382
00:59:23,320 --> 00:59:28,720
Speaker 10: you need to calm down, right. I know it's even

1383
00:59:28,800 --> 00:59:30,920
Speaker 10: say it is kind of crazy, but it's and I

1384
00:59:31,000 --> 00:59:33,840
Speaker 10: gotta check my spirit because sometimes it'll like flare her up,

1385
00:59:33,920 --> 00:59:37,200
Speaker 10: you know. But sometimes it'll be like, actually that always

1386
00:59:37,200 --> 00:59:39,600
Speaker 10: flares you up if I say it like that audaciously,

1387
00:59:39,640 --> 00:59:41,200
Speaker 10: you know, like you need to calm down. But we

1388
00:59:41,320 --> 00:59:44,280
Speaker 10: do have those moments of like me trying to match

1389
00:59:44,320 --> 00:59:47,120
Speaker 10: her intensity or should I like try to calm her

1390
00:59:47,200 --> 00:59:50,600
Speaker 10: down and likewise me not being passive agressive. Sometimes Audrey

1391
00:59:50,640 --> 00:59:52,320
Speaker 10: needs to tell me like, hey, do you like, do

1392
00:59:52,360 --> 00:59:53,760
Speaker 10: you care I engage with this?

1393
00:59:54,080 --> 00:59:55,760
Speaker 2: I don't just walk away from anything there.

1394
00:59:56,240 --> 00:59:59,760
Speaker 10: Yeah, it's man. Dealing with that stuff is just so

1395
01:00:01,080 --> 01:00:02,040
Speaker 10: and so helpful for us.

1396
01:00:02,240 --> 01:00:03,560
Speaker 11: Do you guys know do you guys do anagram?

1397
01:00:04,200 --> 01:00:08,680
Speaker 2: We did, but we forgot that's like the numbers, right.

1398
01:00:09,120 --> 01:00:09,320
Speaker 7: Yeah.

1399
01:00:10,000 --> 01:00:12,640
Speaker 2: We had a we had a span of like.

1400
01:00:14,520 --> 01:00:18,520
Speaker 3: Psychics and healers and everyone come in like that week

1401
01:00:18,680 --> 01:00:20,360
Speaker 3: and there was just just do it all. It was

1402
01:00:20,440 --> 01:00:22,000
Speaker 3: just as a lot and so I think I was

1403
01:00:22,440 --> 01:00:24,400
Speaker 3: I need to listen back to the podcast because we

1404
01:00:24,480 --> 01:00:26,840
Speaker 3: did have an anagram.

1405
01:00:26,440 --> 01:00:31,280
Speaker 4: Person with so many in a small window. It was

1406
01:00:31,480 --> 01:00:31,720
Speaker 4: kind of.

1407
01:00:33,440 --> 01:00:34,960
Speaker 2: Blurry. But what does it tell you?

1408
01:00:37,480 --> 01:00:39,640
Speaker 10: Basically, like not to get all into the anagram train

1409
01:00:39,680 --> 01:00:42,680
Speaker 10: because it's such a tangent, but it's it's essentially.

1410
01:00:42,480 --> 01:00:46,880
Speaker 11: A uh self Discoveries for self growth. So it teaches

1411
01:00:46,920 --> 01:00:49,400
Speaker 11: you more about yourself. It shows you like the box

1412
01:00:49,440 --> 01:00:50,760
Speaker 11: you're in and teaches you how to get out of it.

1413
01:00:50,880 --> 01:00:53,320
Speaker 2: So it's not an excuse for you to, like conversation

1414
01:00:54,120 --> 01:00:54,800
Speaker 2: the way you are.

1415
01:00:55,160 --> 01:00:57,960
Speaker 11: It's teaching you how you are, the way you are,

1416
01:00:58,040 --> 01:00:59,680
Speaker 11: why you are the way you are, what motivates you

1417
01:00:59,760 --> 01:01:01,840
Speaker 11: to be that way so that you can change and grow.

1418
01:01:02,080 --> 01:01:02,920
Speaker 2: And it's so good for me.

1419
01:01:03,040 --> 01:01:05,000
Speaker 10: It's been probably one of the most helpful tools, like

1420
01:01:05,240 --> 01:01:09,120
Speaker 10: we've ever discovered itself that should it's.

1421
01:01:08,840 --> 01:01:16,120
Speaker 4: Probably it's more I mean too, but that's not the bottom.

1422
01:01:16,520 --> 01:01:17,960
Speaker 3: I mean, if we if we were ever to write

1423
01:01:17,960 --> 01:01:19,480
Speaker 3: a book, would you actually read our own book? But

1424
01:01:20,000 --> 01:01:21,720
Speaker 3: we're like no, because yeah.

1425
01:01:21,640 --> 01:01:25,040
Speaker 4: I've read it while I was typing it. No, But

1426
01:01:25,160 --> 01:01:28,320
Speaker 4: that's kind of like a more introspective way of learning

1427
01:01:28,320 --> 01:01:32,280
Speaker 4: yourself compared to like introspective way of learning yourself compared

1428
01:01:32,280 --> 01:01:34,480
Speaker 4: to like love languages, love languages and learning yourself.

1429
01:01:34,520 --> 01:01:37,040
Speaker 3: But this is like a deeper dive into I think

1430
01:01:37,080 --> 01:01:40,840
Speaker 3: that one's more for learning about the other person love languages.

1431
01:01:41,320 --> 01:01:43,320
Speaker 2: So I think we always know our love languages. It's

1432
01:01:43,320 --> 01:01:44,600
Speaker 2: about learning what the other persons is.

1433
01:01:44,800 --> 01:01:48,320
Speaker 4: Yeah, you don't really know your love language until you know,

1434
01:01:48,520 --> 01:01:51,840
Speaker 4: like until you know what it is on paper, Like

1435
01:01:51,840 --> 01:01:53,960
Speaker 4: I wouldn't. I wouldn't have known how to articulate my

1436
01:01:54,040 --> 01:01:54,560
Speaker 4: love language.

1437
01:01:54,640 --> 01:01:55,400
Speaker 2: Really, I feel like.

1438
01:01:58,480 --> 01:01:59,960
Speaker 10: I would say so if I.

1439
01:02:02,360 --> 01:02:02,720
Speaker 1: Wouldn't.

1440
01:02:02,920 --> 01:02:05,400
Speaker 10: Guys, naturally, I didn't know mine. I think until I

1441
01:02:05,480 --> 01:02:09,760
Speaker 10: actually started someone you started like meeting that need. And

1442
01:02:09,800 --> 01:02:11,240
Speaker 10: actually we tell the story in the book when I

1443
01:02:11,280 --> 01:02:16,160
Speaker 10: first recognized it, remember with the yeah words of affirmation?

1444
01:02:16,960 --> 01:02:19,240
Speaker 3: So what's next? They got the love letter life. Now

1445
01:02:19,400 --> 01:02:23,200
Speaker 3: what's what's the sequel? What's the what's are you just

1446
01:02:23,360 --> 01:02:24,240
Speaker 3: trying to tell me?

1447
01:02:24,360 --> 01:02:24,919
Speaker 2: I'm sure?

1448
01:02:25,720 --> 01:02:25,919
Speaker 11: Yeah.

1449
01:02:26,800 --> 01:02:27,960
Speaker 2: The book tour just been crazy.

1450
01:02:28,360 --> 01:02:29,240
Speaker 1: It's been so fun.

1451
01:02:29,480 --> 01:02:30,600
Speaker 2: It has been really fun.

1452
01:02:30,800 --> 01:02:33,240
Speaker 11: It's so cool to get to do this together because

1453
01:02:33,880 --> 01:02:35,160
Speaker 11: it would have been one thing, like a lot of

1454
01:02:35,160 --> 01:02:37,560
Speaker 11: people write books, but then the fact that we get

1455
01:02:37,600 --> 01:02:39,680
Speaker 11: to write a book that's actually our story and then

1456
01:02:39,880 --> 01:02:41,960
Speaker 11: experience it all together and go on this tour to

1457
01:02:41,960 --> 01:02:43,000
Speaker 11: the other is just so fun.

1458
01:02:43,960 --> 01:02:44,640
Speaker 10: It's pretty fun.

1459
01:02:45,040 --> 01:02:47,600
Speaker 2: We're I mean, there's more books in the works, but yeah.

1460
01:02:47,480 --> 01:02:50,200
Speaker 10: More, but the podcast is fun. We're kind of trying

1461
01:02:50,240 --> 01:02:50,480
Speaker 10: to like.

1462
01:02:50,600 --> 01:02:53,439
Speaker 2: Soak this one in which we were also on your podcast. Yeah,

1463
01:02:53,600 --> 01:02:56,040
Speaker 2: that was really fun. We appreciate you'll having a Yeah,

1464
01:02:56,080 --> 01:02:56,240
Speaker 2: that was.

1465
01:02:56,240 --> 01:02:56,680
Speaker 1: A great one.

1466
01:02:57,840 --> 01:02:59,120
Speaker 10: I don't know when we're gonna put that one out,

1467
01:02:59,160 --> 01:02:59,920
Speaker 10: but we just planned it.

1468
01:03:00,200 --> 01:03:01,320
Speaker 1: We just planned it before this.

1469
01:03:01,600 --> 01:03:05,160
Speaker 11: Literally we're like rearranging all the schedules, so we're like.

1470
01:03:05,240 --> 01:03:07,640
Speaker 4: We're plugging with all the time together in the book

1471
01:03:07,680 --> 01:03:09,640
Speaker 4: tour and the podcasting, everything that you guys do together.

1472
01:03:09,680 --> 01:03:10,640
Speaker 4: What do you do for yourselves?

1473
01:03:11,280 --> 01:03:13,640
Speaker 10: Yeah, that's good, dude. We're trying to get back to that.

1474
01:03:13,800 --> 01:03:15,600
Speaker 10: Man like we I feel like we went through a

1475
01:03:15,680 --> 01:03:19,240
Speaker 10: season of uh, you know, having like this. This the

1476
01:03:19,280 --> 01:03:21,320
Speaker 10: book really is kind of an overflow of a passion

1477
01:03:21,360 --> 01:03:23,720
Speaker 10: we have for like pursuing healthy relationship and whatnot and

1478
01:03:23,800 --> 01:03:26,280
Speaker 10: just bring in our generation people along our journey with

1479
01:03:26,400 --> 01:03:28,360
Speaker 10: us as we learn and grow. But alongside of the

1480
01:03:28,400 --> 01:03:31,280
Speaker 10: book and like our our care for relationships, we started

1481
01:03:31,360 --> 01:03:34,040
Speaker 10: quite a few projects and I think right now we're

1482
01:03:34,080 --> 01:03:37,160
Speaker 10: kind of we're realizing, like this isn't like there's more

1483
01:03:37,280 --> 01:03:39,760
Speaker 10: to life than work. We just like working together. We

1484
01:03:39,880 --> 01:03:41,920
Speaker 10: love it, and we're always starting something and we lay

1485
01:03:41,960 --> 01:03:44,600
Speaker 10: in bed like till one am just talking about the

1486
01:03:44,640 --> 01:03:45,320
Speaker 10: next project.

1487
01:03:46,000 --> 01:03:46,480
Speaker 4: We love that.

1488
01:03:46,880 --> 01:03:50,479
Speaker 10: We just to your point, it's coming at a cost.

1489
01:03:50,600 --> 01:03:54,160
Speaker 10: And like recently we've realized like, wow, I really liked

1490
01:03:54,200 --> 01:03:56,200
Speaker 10: bike riding it once upon a time, like maybe I

1491
01:03:56,240 --> 01:03:58,920
Speaker 10: should start bike riding every Saturday. And that's kind of

1492
01:03:58,960 --> 01:04:03,120
Speaker 10: been our personal, I think conviction just as we finished

1493
01:04:03,160 --> 01:04:06,000
Speaker 10: the book up and it's been so beautiful and awesome fun.

1494
01:04:06,480 --> 01:04:08,840
Speaker 10: But now we're realizing, like okay, after this, going back

1495
01:04:08,840 --> 01:04:11,680
Speaker 10: to your question, Jane, it's like, let's like what's next,

1496
01:04:11,800 --> 01:04:14,000
Speaker 10: Like we're probably going to try to calm down for

1497
01:04:14,080 --> 01:04:17,000
Speaker 10: a second, like all summer, you know, just like Okay,

1498
01:04:17,280 --> 01:04:20,280
Speaker 10: that was amazing. Let's kind of let's kind of keep

1499
01:04:20,320 --> 01:04:23,920
Speaker 10: some stuff going, rejuvenate, refill, refuel, so.

1500
01:04:24,200 --> 01:04:25,840
Speaker 11: Tend to sort of some of the things that we've

1501
01:04:25,960 --> 01:04:28,240
Speaker 11: let be on the back burner and in maintenance mode

1502
01:04:28,280 --> 01:04:30,480
Speaker 11: for a while because are other things that we have

1503
01:04:30,560 --> 01:04:31,000
Speaker 11: got going on.

1504
01:04:31,080 --> 01:04:32,720
Speaker 2: We just kind of okay, we just got to wait

1505
01:04:32,800 --> 01:04:34,240
Speaker 2: because we got to work on this big project.

1506
01:04:34,280 --> 01:04:35,760
Speaker 10: Well that's okay, there's seasons for everything.

1507
01:04:35,880 --> 01:04:37,760
Speaker 3: So I agree, and I think there are seasons for

1508
01:04:37,960 --> 01:04:41,640
Speaker 3: I mean, I know Mike needs more of his time,

1509
01:04:41,840 --> 01:04:43,720
Speaker 3: but you know he's like, well, don't you want to

1510
01:04:43,760 --> 01:04:45,880
Speaker 3: go and you know, go for a hike, er do this.

1511
01:04:45,960 --> 01:04:48,040
Speaker 3: I'm like, yeah, but when tell me, like in our

1512
01:04:48,120 --> 01:04:50,640
Speaker 3: day right now, we have so much going on with

1513
01:04:50,800 --> 01:04:53,360
Speaker 3: the two kids. I mean it's I'm like, yes, what

1514
01:04:53,520 --> 01:04:56,120
Speaker 3: I love to go with the girls to the spa

1515
01:04:56,280 --> 01:04:59,479
Speaker 3: for three hours. I would love that, but I also

1516
01:04:59,560 --> 01:05:01,640
Speaker 3: have a list of things I have to do that

1517
01:05:01,760 --> 01:05:08,479
Speaker 3: I honestly won't even finish, Like in the day. Again,

1518
01:05:08,560 --> 01:05:10,240
Speaker 3: it's the season we're in right now, is we have

1519
01:05:10,280 --> 01:05:12,280
Speaker 3: a lot of projects right now, the season that we're in,

1520
01:05:12,480 --> 01:05:13,120
Speaker 3: and it's and then.

1521
01:05:13,080 --> 01:05:14,640
Speaker 2: Then hopefully next season, the.

1522
01:05:14,640 --> 01:05:18,000
Speaker 11: Season that we don't It's like our bedtime conversations, pillow,

1523
01:05:19,440 --> 01:05:20,640
Speaker 11: when is the season going to end?

1524
01:05:20,680 --> 01:05:22,720
Speaker 2: We can't just keep launching new things every month. We

1525
01:05:22,800 --> 01:05:25,960
Speaker 2: can't just keep releasing it. Maybe maybe the winter time, Moore.

1526
01:05:26,040 --> 01:05:28,280
Speaker 9: The train that keeps it going that like is always yeah,

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Speaker 9: She's definite, yeah, yeah, And then I just want to

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01:05:30,840 --> 01:05:33,120
Speaker 9: like sometimes step in and just go like no, I'm

1529
01:05:33,160 --> 01:05:35,080
Speaker 9: gonna go for a walk open I'm like, I don't care, like,

1530
01:05:35,160 --> 01:05:36,920
Speaker 9: let it all hit the wall, you know, yeah, and

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01:05:37,000 --> 01:05:39,000
Speaker 9: I'll be back in ten minutes or an hour.

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01:05:39,120 --> 01:05:41,200
Speaker 2: We are trying to create a brand, trying to make

1533
01:05:41,240 --> 01:05:42,480
Speaker 2: a circle very hard.

1534
01:05:43,080 --> 01:05:45,600
Speaker 4: Last night we're in bed, go to bed, and she's

1535
01:05:45,880 --> 01:05:47,680
Speaker 4: asked me a question about later this month, about a

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01:05:47,720 --> 01:05:49,440
Speaker 4: traveling plan, if we're going to do it. I'm just

1537
01:05:49,480 --> 01:05:52,800
Speaker 4: kind of like, can we talk about tomorrow? And she's

1538
01:05:52,880 --> 01:05:57,400
Speaker 4: just like, you just like messed her up. Yeah, this

1539
01:05:57,600 --> 01:05:58,760
Speaker 4: is so to me.

1540
01:05:59,000 --> 01:06:04,120
Speaker 11: Everything is urgent, urgent, Jeremy, nothing is urgent. And also

1541
01:06:04,480 --> 01:06:06,880
Speaker 11: there's no such thing as a crisis. There's no such

1542
01:06:06,960 --> 01:06:09,680
Speaker 11: thing as an emergency. Like I tell this story all

1543
01:06:09,720 --> 01:06:13,320
Speaker 11: the time, a motorcycle accident. Do you tell you guys this, No, okay,

1544
01:06:13,360 --> 01:06:14,560
Speaker 11: this is it's the motorcycle.

1545
01:06:14,800 --> 01:06:17,400
Speaker 2: And also we this is another change it.

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01:06:17,520 --> 01:06:20,160
Speaker 11: When we lived in La we drove on this tiny

1547
01:06:20,240 --> 01:06:23,200
Speaker 11: little motorcycle around splitting traffic.

1548
01:06:24,360 --> 01:06:27,960
Speaker 2: What we were but we were like flip and we

1549
01:06:28,040 --> 01:06:34,080
Speaker 2: were on this motorcycle when we lived here. Stupid, stupid.

1550
01:06:34,800 --> 01:06:37,919
Speaker 11: We got a motorcycle acciday and I flew up Jared

1551
01:06:38,000 --> 01:06:39,720
Speaker 11: kind of like spun off into the ditch. We're fine,

1552
01:06:39,880 --> 01:06:41,360
Speaker 11: car hit us and we just like spun off in

1553
01:06:41,360 --> 01:06:41,600
Speaker 11: the day.

1554
01:06:41,680 --> 01:06:42,280
Speaker 1: We were going.

1555
01:06:45,160 --> 01:06:45,840
Speaker 10: I didn't even want to.

1556
01:06:47,320 --> 01:06:50,920
Speaker 11: Jeremy, Jeremy, Yeah, Jeremy lifts up the fire engines, come

1557
01:06:51,000 --> 01:06:52,840
Speaker 11: all this stuff. The lady's freaking out. She thinks we're

1558
01:06:52,840 --> 01:06:55,160
Speaker 11: gonna like sewer, you know, like all this stuff. Jeremy

1559
01:06:55,200 --> 01:06:57,120
Speaker 11: lifts up the bike and he's like, Babe, the bike

1560
01:06:57,240 --> 01:06:59,000
Speaker 11: is fine. Do you want to still go to breakfast?

1561
01:07:02,080 --> 01:07:06,520
Speaker 2: Nothing is ever wrong guys, those guys in general.

1562
01:07:06,360 --> 01:07:08,440
Speaker 4: Right, But it's just the thing is like, you know,

1563
01:07:08,600 --> 01:07:10,720
Speaker 4: Jane would be coming to me this this week about

1564
01:07:10,720 --> 01:07:11,840
Speaker 4: a lot of stuff. We have a lot of moving

1565
01:07:11,880 --> 01:07:13,680
Speaker 4: parts our house.

1566
01:07:13,800 --> 01:07:17,440
Speaker 2: We're moving. There's movers, we got a schedule we have

1567
01:07:17,520 --> 01:07:18,320
Speaker 2: to move for Balant.

1568
01:07:18,840 --> 01:07:21,479
Speaker 4: We're talking about it and Jana we're on the phone

1569
01:07:21,560 --> 01:07:23,480
Speaker 4: or in person, and she just starts like, okay, and

1570
01:07:23,560 --> 01:07:25,520
Speaker 4: you call this person do this. I'm like, honey, let's

1571
01:07:25,600 --> 01:07:27,240
Speaker 4: just just give it a second. You know, I gotta

1572
01:07:27,240 --> 01:07:29,320
Speaker 4: call them right now. I gotta make this decision right now,

1573
01:07:29,400 --> 01:07:31,280
Speaker 4: we have to do this. I'm like, let's just look

1574
01:07:31,280 --> 01:07:32,000
Speaker 4: at all variables.

1575
01:07:32,280 --> 01:07:34,640
Speaker 2: But there's no other variables. And guess what, there was another.

1576
01:07:34,520 --> 01:07:39,680
Speaker 10: Variable, right, Yes, here's what's so funny about this.

1577
01:07:39,800 --> 01:07:41,000
Speaker 2: What do you mean waiting?

1578
01:07:41,080 --> 01:07:43,960
Speaker 1: Because the male and I think this is the balance

1579
01:07:44,000 --> 01:07:45,880
Speaker 1: that makes it work, right, because if two people are

1580
01:07:45,920 --> 01:07:47,600
Speaker 1: that high strong, it's not gonna work. If two people

1581
01:07:47,600 --> 01:07:48,880
Speaker 1: are that laid back, it's not gonna work.

1582
01:07:49,080 --> 01:07:52,120
Speaker 2: Yes, it's balance before to wait.

1583
01:07:52,080 --> 01:07:54,280
Speaker 1: There's a million things and everything's going crazy and I'm

1584
01:07:54,280 --> 01:07:56,200
Speaker 1: so stressed out. And his thing is, look, everything's gonna

1585
01:07:56,200 --> 01:07:57,240
Speaker 1: be fine, and you're both right.

1586
01:07:57,520 --> 01:07:57,680
Speaker 4: Yea.

1587
01:07:58,440 --> 01:08:00,320
Speaker 1: It's just a different perspective on the same situation.

1588
01:08:00,440 --> 01:08:02,920
Speaker 10: Yeah, So here's where like I think that collides and

1589
01:08:02,960 --> 01:08:05,920
Speaker 10: this is again kind of We interviewed Chris Hewarts who

1590
01:08:06,000 --> 01:08:08,800
Speaker 10: wrote Sacred Enneagram, and he brought this perspective to us,

1591
01:08:08,840 --> 01:08:11,440
Speaker 10: which I thought was awesome, and that is what we

1592
01:08:11,600 --> 01:08:15,080
Speaker 10: used to battle out. We now accept as the gift

1593
01:08:15,160 --> 01:08:18,400
Speaker 10: that the other brings to the conversation. So like without Audrey,

1594
01:08:18,479 --> 01:08:21,760
Speaker 10: I would probably not I would sloth mode, I would

1595
01:08:21,760 --> 01:08:24,920
Speaker 10: tend to do way less right. But without me, Audrey

1596
01:08:24,920 --> 01:08:27,599
Speaker 10: would be way way unhealthy and still having anxiety attacks

1597
01:08:27,640 --> 01:08:29,439
Speaker 10: like all the time, lose her hair. So it's like

1598
01:08:29,520 --> 01:08:31,280
Speaker 10: we bring a gift to each other and once we

1599
01:08:31,439 --> 01:08:33,760
Speaker 10: like start to accept that and then wrestle in the

1600
01:08:33,880 --> 01:08:36,679
Speaker 10: tension of that. Right, that's when I think true health

1601
01:08:36,880 --> 01:08:39,800
Speaker 10: is kind of realized. And for us, obviously we're still

1602
01:08:39,800 --> 01:08:42,680
Speaker 10: in the process very much so, but that was a

1603
01:08:43,080 --> 01:08:45,280
Speaker 10: very awesome perspective shift like that. I had was like, wow,

1604
01:08:45,360 --> 01:08:48,080
Speaker 10: her intensity like babe, bring it, let's go. Thank you

1605
01:08:48,920 --> 01:08:52,439
Speaker 10: as long as she on the turn side goes thank

1606
01:08:52,520 --> 01:08:54,840
Speaker 10: you for calming me down, like yeah, let's let's go

1607
01:08:54,960 --> 01:08:57,160
Speaker 10: do something this weekend. I think there's a balance there,

1608
01:08:57,200 --> 01:09:01,560
Speaker 10: and obviously it's hinges on healthy communication to find it.

1609
01:09:01,760 --> 01:09:02,880
Speaker 4: But do you agree with this?

1610
01:09:03,320 --> 01:09:05,559
Speaker 3: I agree with the one side, but I don't agree

1611
01:09:05,600 --> 01:09:10,400
Speaker 3: with because I still think. I still think that certain

1612
01:09:10,439 --> 01:09:13,400
Speaker 3: things like you would never think about, we have to move,

1613
01:09:13,880 --> 01:09:16,680
Speaker 3: you know, across country, and there's all these different variables

1614
01:09:17,160 --> 01:09:19,519
Speaker 3: that have to line up in place for these things

1615
01:09:19,600 --> 01:09:23,760
Speaker 3: to happen. So I think the timing of things is

1616
01:09:23,840 --> 01:09:25,800
Speaker 3: very important because if not, then we would have lost

1617
01:09:25,840 --> 01:09:27,840
Speaker 3: out on more. We would have spent more money, and.

1618
01:09:29,040 --> 01:09:32,240
Speaker 4: Timing is timing is right, and I understand that. But

1619
01:09:32,360 --> 01:09:34,320
Speaker 4: I think, you know, Jeremy hit it on the head.

1620
01:09:34,360 --> 01:09:36,120
Speaker 4: That's exactly how we are. I think it is a

1621
01:09:36,160 --> 01:09:39,840
Speaker 4: gift because if I matched your energy. We'd be constantly

1622
01:09:40,240 --> 01:09:44,320
Speaker 4: in panic and anxiety. I bring it down. Just let

1623
01:09:44,360 --> 01:09:46,439
Speaker 4: me just give Let me just give a small example.

1624
01:09:46,560 --> 01:09:48,240
Speaker 4: And this isn't to put Jada on blast or anything

1625
01:09:48,240 --> 01:09:51,679
Speaker 4: like that. It's not a terrible thing. But we had

1626
01:09:52,000 --> 01:09:54,320
Speaker 4: an issue with our nanny. She quit Listen.

1627
01:09:57,000 --> 01:09:58,760
Speaker 2: We have so many trips coming up.

1628
01:09:59,400 --> 01:09:59,719
Speaker 1: Go ahead?

1629
01:09:59,720 --> 01:10:02,720
Speaker 4: Are she can't even let the sloth talk? Yeah, she's

1630
01:10:03,040 --> 01:10:04,640
Speaker 4: she's like ten conversations ahead of me.

1631
01:10:04,760 --> 01:10:04,960
Speaker 10: Yeah.

1632
01:10:05,320 --> 01:10:07,880
Speaker 4: No, that's not even the one I was gonna talk about. Okay,

1633
01:10:08,080 --> 01:10:11,519
Speaker 4: we needed our nanny for some dates. Later in May,

1634
01:10:12,320 --> 01:10:16,639
Speaker 4: she responded saying that I told Jana back in January

1635
01:10:17,160 --> 01:10:19,960
Speaker 4: that I needed these dates X Y and Z off

1636
01:10:20,080 --> 01:10:23,080
Speaker 4: because family obligation and so on, and she ended up

1637
01:10:23,080 --> 01:10:26,160
Speaker 4: screenshotting me the text before I ever got any of that.

1638
01:10:27,240 --> 01:10:29,720
Speaker 4: Jana was like, she did not tell me, no, no, no,

1639
01:10:29,880 --> 01:10:31,920
Speaker 4: And where I wanted to go to Jamie. I wanted

1640
01:10:31,920 --> 01:10:35,200
Speaker 4: to say, well, can you look just I just make

1641
01:10:35,240 --> 01:10:37,640
Speaker 4: sure because I'm like, I'm the messenger, right, I'm the

1642
01:10:37,640 --> 01:10:41,240
Speaker 4: messenger between our contractor between our nanny. I'm that guy,

1643
01:10:41,520 --> 01:10:43,720
Speaker 4: and just Jana has her hand inside of me and

1644
01:10:43,840 --> 01:10:45,920
Speaker 4: just like using my mouth as a puppet. So I'm

1645
01:10:45,920 --> 01:10:48,000
Speaker 4: just saying where she says. So Jana's like, go respond

1646
01:10:48,080 --> 01:10:49,400
Speaker 4: right now, tell her right now that you know this

1647
01:10:49,520 --> 01:10:52,280
Speaker 4: is unacceptable, and so on and so forth, and just

1648
01:10:52,520 --> 01:10:55,479
Speaker 4: my personality, I wanted to be like, let's just make sure.

1649
01:10:55,640 --> 01:10:58,160
Speaker 4: But I didn't say it. I said okay, I kind

1650
01:10:58,200 --> 01:10:59,680
Speaker 4: of gave you know, through my towel. I was like,

1651
01:10:59,680 --> 01:11:01,000
Speaker 4: all right, fine, I said it.

1652
01:11:02,000 --> 01:11:02,400
Speaker 7: Come back.

1653
01:11:02,560 --> 01:11:05,639
Speaker 4: Our nanny sends me the screenshot of her telling Jana

1654
01:11:05,960 --> 01:11:08,240
Speaker 4: that she needed those days off, and Jan's saying, okay,

1655
01:11:08,600 --> 01:11:11,920
Speaker 4: no problem, explamation boy, smiled face, It's all good. And

1656
01:11:12,160 --> 01:11:13,479
Speaker 4: I had to sit there and be the bad guy.

1657
01:11:13,680 --> 01:11:16,160
Speaker 2: It was a really long time ago. Regardless she did

1658
01:11:16,200 --> 01:11:16,840
Speaker 2: stor but you did.

1659
01:11:17,479 --> 01:11:18,479
Speaker 4: You didn't put on the calendar.

1660
01:11:20,439 --> 01:11:23,080
Speaker 11: So you're Nanny Quinn and you're moving. But were you

1661
01:11:23,120 --> 01:11:24,600
Speaker 11: gonna bring Was she gonna move with you?

1662
01:11:25,200 --> 01:11:27,000
Speaker 2: We hadn't really figured it out yet. I don't think

1663
01:11:27,080 --> 01:11:29,040
Speaker 2: she would have because I think we there was a

1664
01:11:29,080 --> 01:11:31,160
Speaker 2: lot of things happening nanny until you move.

1665
01:11:31,840 --> 01:11:35,040
Speaker 3: Yes, so that's been very stressful. But we've I actually

1666
01:11:35,080 --> 01:11:36,920
Speaker 3: did use care dot com and we have someone that

1667
01:11:36,960 --> 01:11:40,240
Speaker 3: we hired off there. So but but yeah, so I

1668
01:11:40,320 --> 01:11:42,360
Speaker 3: think there was just some issues already that we were

1669
01:11:42,360 --> 01:11:45,439
Speaker 3: getting frustrated with. But it's gonna be good for the

1670
01:11:45,520 --> 01:11:47,080
Speaker 3: next situation because I.

1671
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Speaker 4: Just don't think certain things have to be that stressful.

1672
01:11:50,720 --> 01:11:51,479
Speaker 2: I wasn't stressed.

1673
01:11:51,760 --> 01:11:53,920
Speaker 4: No, I'm just saying just decisions and stuff like that,

1674
01:11:54,080 --> 01:11:56,760
Speaker 4: Like we can. We can make the decisions in this

1675
01:11:57,240 --> 01:11:59,280
Speaker 4: in the same time. We know it's a big deal.

1676
01:11:59,320 --> 01:12:01,920
Speaker 4: We can make this station the same timely meaner with

1677
01:12:02,000 --> 01:12:05,280
Speaker 4: this kind of demeanor as opposed to go right now

1678
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Speaker 4: we have millions.

1679
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Speaker 10: It's just you're so lucky that you guys both bring

1680
01:12:10,680 --> 01:12:11,000
Speaker 10: a gift.

1681
01:12:11,080 --> 01:12:11,679
Speaker 4: You're so lucky.

1682
01:12:11,880 --> 01:12:12,120
Speaker 2: Thank you.

1683
01:12:12,479 --> 01:12:14,880
Speaker 3: You guys are a gift though, and your love Letter

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Speaker 3: Life is beautiful. Where else can our fans follow you?

1685
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Speaker 10: Yeah, so pretty much. To find all the irons we

1686
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Speaker 10: have in the fire, you can just go to the

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Speaker 5: That's the other big miss with the j Jeremy with

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Speaker 4: With an E.

1692
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Speaker 11: Our names on social media, Instagra.

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Speaker 1: We're big on Instagram.

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Speaker 10: Jeremy roll Off.

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Speaker 3: It's amazing, and guys, thank you.

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Speaker 2: I love you guys. Can we please like hang out?

1698
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Speaker 8: Yeah?

1699
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Speaker 4: Thank you?

1700
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Speaker 7: Please?

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm stress Okay, I love it.

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Speaker 2: I love the Rollofs. They're so sweet.

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Speaker 4: They're like our counterpart.

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Speaker 2: I really they're like our counterpart.

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Speaker 4: That they're fantastic.

1731
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Speaker 2: I really like them a lot. Who I know this

1732
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Speaker 2: is kind of getting a long show, but can we

1733
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Speaker 2: just do one? Email? Mark?

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Speaker 1: I mean, we've got some really interesting ones, but this

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Speaker 1: one I found particularly intriguing From Mandy, I've been with that.

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Speaker 2: Right now, you're going to pick that one?

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Speaker 3: What?

1738
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Speaker 4: Really? Do you not want it?

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Speaker 2: No? You can.

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Speaker 1: Mandy says that my boyfriend for almost four years, we

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Speaker 1: are looking to get engaged this year. We don't really

1742
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Speaker 1: have a sex life, and that's mainly his choice. We're

1743
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Speaker 1: a very pda and affectionate couple. I feel one hundred

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01:14:34,320 --> 01:14:36,360
Speaker 1: percent loved by him and every other way.

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01:14:36,240 --> 01:14:36,960
Speaker 4: With no doubts.

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01:14:37,439 --> 01:14:40,360
Speaker 1: Backstory, he and his ex chose to have an abortion

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01:14:40,520 --> 01:14:43,160
Speaker 1: when they were together, and he won't forgive himself for it.

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01:14:43,600 --> 01:14:45,720
Speaker 1: I think it's really messed him up. He says he

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01:14:45,800 --> 01:14:47,600
Speaker 1: finds me attractive. He says, when we get married, it

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01:14:47,600 --> 01:14:49,439
Speaker 1: won't be like this. And I don't know what to believe.

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01:14:49,640 --> 01:14:51,280
Speaker 1: I feel like I've tried everything. I can't get him

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01:14:51,280 --> 01:14:52,840
Speaker 1: to open up, and if I try too much, he

1753
01:14:52,920 --> 01:14:54,599
Speaker 1: gets very shy and closes up.

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01:14:56,479 --> 01:15:07,840
Speaker 2: Oh, I mean there's no question in there, But I mean,

1755
01:15:08,439 --> 01:15:09,320
Speaker 2: not having sex for.

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Speaker 4: Four years, I don't see how, just in my personal opinion,

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01:15:13,760 --> 01:15:17,679
Speaker 4: I don't see how when they get married it'll change.

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01:15:18,640 --> 01:15:22,960
Speaker 4: I think people, I think people set too many expectations.

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01:15:23,800 --> 01:15:26,920
Speaker 4: When it's when we get married, this will happen. I

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01:15:27,000 --> 01:15:30,320
Speaker 4: thought that. I thought that about myself and issues that

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01:15:30,400 --> 01:15:34,479
Speaker 4: I dealt with. And you know, when I get married,

1762
01:15:34,479 --> 01:15:36,759
Speaker 4: i'll ever cheat right when I get married.

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01:15:37,160 --> 01:15:38,479
Speaker 2: Yeah, jokes on you, kid.

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01:15:40,200 --> 01:15:44,719
Speaker 4: Oh how far we've come. You know, when I get married,

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01:15:44,760 --> 01:15:47,400
Speaker 4: I won't have issues with When I.

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01:15:47,400 --> 01:15:49,120
Speaker 2: Get married, I won't be passive aggressive.

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01:15:49,800 --> 01:15:52,280
Speaker 4: I just feel like people think that's a fixer and

1768
01:15:52,360 --> 01:15:53,719
Speaker 4: it's nothing's going to change.

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01:15:55,040 --> 01:15:58,000
Speaker 2: Yeah, Mandy, I mean, is does she say that he's

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01:15:58,040 --> 01:15:58,599
Speaker 2: doing therapy?

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01:15:59,000 --> 01:16:01,160
Speaker 1: No, the boy, he's crying out for it. She doesn't

1772
01:16:01,160 --> 01:16:02,160
Speaker 1: mention it, but I hope he is.

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01:16:02,320 --> 01:16:04,599
Speaker 2: I know I would just say I would be cautious

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01:16:04,760 --> 01:16:06,599
Speaker 2: to marry.

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01:16:06,840 --> 01:16:08,639
Speaker 3: I think he needs to do some work on himself

1776
01:16:08,720 --> 01:16:12,599
Speaker 3: in therapy, because I mean, I can understand how he's

1777
01:16:12,640 --> 01:16:15,400
Speaker 3: beating himself up and if he's really worried about having

1778
01:16:15,439 --> 01:16:18,439
Speaker 3: another baby and that happening, you know, are you maybe

1779
01:16:18,520 --> 01:16:20,920
Speaker 3: get on the pill to make him more comfortable.

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01:16:21,360 --> 01:16:23,639
Speaker 1: I think it's kind of something we've touched on earlier

1781
01:16:23,680 --> 01:16:26,400
Speaker 1: in this podcast, not today, but in previous episodes, how

1782
01:16:26,439 --> 01:16:32,040
Speaker 1: he's now married the concept of sex with this incredible

1783
01:16:32,160 --> 01:16:35,280
Speaker 1: crushing guilt he's dealing with, and one directly led to

1784
01:16:35,320 --> 01:16:37,479
Speaker 1: the other, and they're just all in one big ball.

1785
01:16:37,560 --> 01:16:39,800
Speaker 1: And that's why he needs the therapy, is to sort

1786
01:16:39,840 --> 01:16:43,000
Speaker 1: those things out and separate the untangle those points he

1787
01:16:43,080 --> 01:16:43,559
Speaker 1: can that's.

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01:16:43,479 --> 01:16:46,479
Speaker 4: A great point. He hasn't been able to in a

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01:16:46,560 --> 01:16:50,519
Speaker 4: healthy way compartmentalize those aspects of the relationship and what

1790
01:16:50,640 --> 01:16:51,479
Speaker 4: marriage entails.

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01:16:51,560 --> 01:16:55,040
Speaker 2: And yeah, that's a great point. So give him a chance.

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01:16:55,120 --> 01:16:58,559
Speaker 3: But I would very highly suggest he like having him

1793
01:16:58,600 --> 01:17:00,599
Speaker 3: go to therapy and working through that, because that's going

1794
01:17:00,640 --> 01:17:03,559
Speaker 3: to be a tough one and the longer it goes

1795
01:17:04,160 --> 01:17:04,559
Speaker 3: the worst.

1796
01:17:04,560 --> 01:17:05,439
Speaker 2: I think it'll be too.

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01:17:06,360 --> 01:17:08,120
Speaker 4: Yeah, don't wait to tell you're married to try to

1798
01:17:09,080 --> 01:17:10,240
Speaker 4: work on that stuff. Right.

1799
01:17:10,320 --> 01:17:14,200
Speaker 1: Some argue against having a couples therapy before you get married,

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01:17:14,520 --> 01:17:16,600
Speaker 1: but this is a situation that really calls out for it.

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01:17:16,720 --> 01:17:17,720
Speaker 2: Oh, I say you should always have.

1802
01:17:18,320 --> 01:17:22,400
Speaker 4: If people don't believe in therapy before marriage, then they're

1803
01:17:22,560 --> 01:17:26,759
Speaker 4: just kind of being naive. And it's like they almost

1804
01:17:26,760 --> 01:17:28,920
Speaker 4: don't want to know the problems they have because they

1805
01:17:29,000 --> 01:17:31,240
Speaker 4: just want to have that dream of being married to

1806
01:17:31,320 --> 01:17:33,719
Speaker 4: that person, so they don't want to figure out any issues.

1807
01:17:33,800 --> 01:17:35,920
Speaker 1: Right, you shouldn't have problems, you'll living together a few years.

1808
01:17:35,960 --> 01:17:38,120
Speaker 4: Everyone should be everything should be easy. But again that's

1809
01:17:38,120 --> 01:17:38,920
Speaker 4: a common misconception.

1810
01:17:39,800 --> 01:17:42,600
Speaker 3: Well, I learned a lot this episode about fire and

1811
01:17:42,680 --> 01:17:46,439
Speaker 3: the roll offs, and you know Laura Laughlin and them

1812
01:17:46,520 --> 01:17:48,240
Speaker 3: going to prison since.

1813
01:17:50,320 --> 01:17:52,599
Speaker 2: And how about Mike just wants to take them out back.

1814
01:17:53,080 --> 01:17:56,759
Speaker 2: So stay tuned, guys, Stay tuned to see who's around

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01:17:56,880 --> 01:17:59,360
Speaker 2: next week. Wind Down, next time.

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Speaker 1: Taken Away

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Speaker 8: MHM