WEBVTT - The Top 8 BobbyCast Interviews of 2020 (Part 2)

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<v Speaker 1>Welcome back to the Bobby Cast, the Top eight interviews

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<v Speaker 1>of the Year. This is part two what we're looking

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<v Speaker 1>back on some of our favorite moments from this podcast.

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<v Speaker 1>If you miss part one, go back and check it

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<v Speaker 1>out because there's a lot of good stuff there. Lionel Richie,

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<v Speaker 1>Chris Kirkpatrick, event SNC. But this episode we'll hear from Shay,

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<v Speaker 1>from Dan and Shay, Russell Dickerson, Morgan Wallen and Luke Combs.

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<v Speaker 1>They've all had really big years and had a chance

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<v Speaker 1>of talking to different points of the year, so it's

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<v Speaker 1>been pretty cool. It's also cool to go back and

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<v Speaker 1>listen to some of these on our podcast feed from

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<v Speaker 1>before they blew up, because I have a lot of those.

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<v Speaker 1>We're talking to folks before they blew up. It's like, Hey,

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<v Speaker 1>what's this about? What are you about? And then what bam?

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<v Speaker 1>Here they go. Now. Also, be sure to subscribe wherever

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<v Speaker 1>mind giving us a five star rating and a quick

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<v Speaker 1>little review because that will help us out in the

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<v Speaker 1>long run. And if you hear me say this and

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<v Speaker 1>you don't do it, that's bad luck. I've heard that

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<v Speaker 1>lots of people have really bad luck if they don't

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<v Speaker 1>do it. Bad Yeah, just for you, not for aybody else.

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<v Speaker 1>You won't be in this together. You'll be in this alone.

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<v Speaker 1>All right, let's kick it off here. Here is Shane Mooney.

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<v Speaker 1>Here you go at there's a number five, number four

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<v Speaker 1>four four. We do six last week eight. Oh it's

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<v Speaker 1>top eight. Yeah, all right, let's leave all us on

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<v Speaker 1>the podcast to I'm an idiot. I thought we were

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<v Speaker 1>doing top ten even though I just said three lines ago.

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<v Speaker 1>All right, we're not gonna edit this out. Friends. There

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<v Speaker 1>we go tweet me if you heard this and thought

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<v Speaker 1>Boby's the idiot. We'll kick it off with Shane Mooney

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<v Speaker 1>of Dan and Shay at number four. Here you go, like,

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<v Speaker 1>I feel proudness for you and Dan both because it's

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<v Speaker 1>just I've just seen because we kind of came in

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<v Speaker 1>at the same time. I've seen you go from two

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<v Speaker 1>guys that they patched together, that you guys patched together.

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<v Speaker 1>People are like, I don't know if their country, yeah

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<v Speaker 1>that was your whole rap. I don't know if they're

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<v Speaker 1>gonna make it. I don't know if that they're you know,

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<v Speaker 1>the guy can sing okay, but they just didn't know

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<v Speaker 1>for sure. I mean it was I saw one of

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<v Speaker 1>the coolest uh. Like it was an Instagram message. I

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<v Speaker 1>think this girl had this picture to us, and she

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<v Speaker 1>was like, I think she had tagged us and it

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<v Speaker 1>said I saw these guys. Uh. It was in two

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<v Speaker 1>thousand twelve, I think or two, right after we had met,

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<v Speaker 1>and we were doing this round at Soulshine Pizza that

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<v Speaker 1>I don't think is there anymore. I think it's something

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<v Speaker 1>else now in Midtown And she was like, I saw

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<v Speaker 1>these guys play around, you know, however long ago in

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<v Speaker 1>two thousand thirteen, and now I just bought a ticket

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<v Speaker 1>to see them in Bridge Down, and it kind of

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<v Speaker 1>took me. It took me back for a second because

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<v Speaker 1>I was just like, man, this is just as as

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<v Speaker 1>they think it's it's cool. A lot of times you're

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<v Speaker 1>so busy with building it that it's hard to look back.

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<v Speaker 1>And I saw that picture and immediately in that moment,

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<v Speaker 1>it was just like, well, that's that's heavy. You know,

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<v Speaker 1>we're struggling in that moment, couldn't We were probably paying

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<v Speaker 1>for Honestly, I think the deal we did weren't getting

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<v Speaker 1>paid for the round. It was we got a slice

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<v Speaker 1>of pizza, like that was what we were getting paid.

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<v Speaker 1>Pizza and experience, yeah absolutely, And and playing to where

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<v Speaker 1>people would actually be there to listen, yeah yeah, which

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<v Speaker 1>they weren't that, but we didn't get the pizza, which

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<v Speaker 1>was pretty awesome. Apparently there was one girl though, that

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<v Speaker 1>was there and got to kind of see that, which

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<v Speaker 1>was a pretty cool moment. I don't know. I I

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<v Speaker 1>looked up the most Google questions about you here you go.

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<v Speaker 1>Number one is are you and Shay related? You can

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<v Speaker 1>answer these. I'm not gonna answer them for you, but

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<v Speaker 1>are are Are Dan and Shay related? We're not. We're

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<v Speaker 1>not related, not that I know about. Okay, did you

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<v Speaker 1>twenty three and me? And make sure I haven't yet.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, it's it's starting to starting to think about

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<v Speaker 1>it now. Though. What is make a lot of sense

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<v Speaker 1>for me is when I see you guys. I don't

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<v Speaker 1>know what a ward show it was, but you guys

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<v Speaker 1>don't like each other to the point of it's not

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<v Speaker 1>just I'll compare it to and I'm not married, you're

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<v Speaker 1>married now, but a marriage that's been through like ten

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<v Speaker 1>years and and this is not you guys, but they're

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<v Speaker 1>together and they just do it because they've agreed to

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<v Speaker 1>a partnership. It's like you guys that are that married

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<v Speaker 1>couple that you look at and go, wow, they still

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<v Speaker 1>like each other after all this time. It is man

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<v Speaker 1>and it feels like that. And I think it's because

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<v Speaker 1>it started out with a from a place of mutual respect.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, it wasn't just this, It wasn't so much

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<v Speaker 1>a lot of you know, lot of times it's this

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<v Speaker 1>whimsical thing that happens and you know, you don't even

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<v Speaker 1>have time to really get to know each other. You

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<v Speaker 1>know a lot of times in bands that it can

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<v Speaker 1>happen quickly and you you didn't have the time where

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<v Speaker 1>you were kind of grinding it out with each other

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<v Speaker 1>on the road and doing you know, millions of shows together. Um,

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<v Speaker 1>and Dan and I had kind of we had become

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<v Speaker 1>kind of who we were going to be when we

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<v Speaker 1>had met. We knew where we were trying to get to,

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<v Speaker 1>and we just really respected what each other, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>we're doing, and uh yeah, I mean it's it's kind

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<v Speaker 1>of crazy because Dan and I are really complete opposites

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<v Speaker 1>in most ways, in most ways, and I think from that,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, it's kind of like a puzzle piece. It's

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<v Speaker 1>like he picks up what I can't do. He's an

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<v Speaker 1>unbelievable producer. He makes me sound good. I can't do

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<v Speaker 1>any of that. I don't know what I'm doing the studio.

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<v Speaker 1>So it's kind of that thing of I trust him,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, with literally like my life and my well being,

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<v Speaker 1>and he trusts me with with that as well. And

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<v Speaker 1>I think it just kind of, you know, it's it's

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<v Speaker 1>clol it's it's like being family, but it's really just

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<v Speaker 1>a I don't know, it's a really cool thing because

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<v Speaker 1>I do, I do still like and we are still

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<v Speaker 1>best friends. You know. It's kind of one of those

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<v Speaker 1>things of all the time we're always looking at each

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<v Speaker 1>other being like, I can't believe that this is this

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<v Speaker 1>is happening. It's just crazy. The second one is who

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<v Speaker 1>are She's parents? Who are parents? Rick and Cindy Mooney?

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<v Speaker 1>Are their names? Natural? Damn Arkansas and everybody pay. A

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<v Speaker 1>lot of people watching from Natural don't think they just

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<v Speaker 1>got internet, So this is probably gonna be a pretty

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<v Speaker 1>big deal, you know. You you laugh about natural Damn

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<v Speaker 1>arketsall about my town Mountain Pine, Arkansas. We just got

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<v Speaker 1>a cell phone tower now months ago. Wow, Now where

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<v Speaker 1>where is that? As far as like where a Little

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<v Speaker 1>Rock is? Because that we're on the you know, the

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<v Speaker 1>western side of Arkansas. So if you go straight dow

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<v Speaker 1>because I know where you are. If you go straight down,

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<v Speaker 1>Mountain Pine is below Little Rock on the same side

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<v Speaker 1>of the state, about an hour the left side of

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<v Speaker 1>the states down. Is that towards Eldado or is that

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<v Speaker 1>the other it's the other side, the other side. But

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<v Speaker 1>I went to Fable and I was with the razor

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<v Speaker 1>by game this past week, and I don't get many

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<v Speaker 1>weekends where I'm off, and so I went over and

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<v Speaker 1>I took Adam Hamburg, who's a dear friend of mine,

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<v Speaker 1>and I saw that and you're with Ronnie Brewer, right, Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>they were my points were they were asking about you.

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<v Speaker 1>They were like, have you seen Shay lately? And it's

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<v Speaker 1>it's almost like if someone that they think we're all

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<v Speaker 1>like related to hang out that we're all like you.

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<v Speaker 1>He's in the kitchen, what's up? What's up with Like

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<v Speaker 1>you know, I've seen him, probably got a month, but

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<v Speaker 1>I think he's doing pretty good. I watch him on

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<v Speaker 1>Instagram with it. It's just funny how when we all

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<v Speaker 1>come from Arkansas and afterward I hung out with a

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<v Speaker 1>lot of listeners and a lot of people that listen

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<v Speaker 1>to the show are watching American Idol, and they were

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<v Speaker 1>I probably got asked about you four times. They think

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<v Speaker 1>all of Arkansas boys run together. We should probably have

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<v Speaker 1>a meeting, and we haven't had one. And at least

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<v Speaker 1>it's been a couple of member's Chapter of Arkansas. Here's

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<v Speaker 1>the one. Does Shay get paid more than Dan? Yeah?

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<v Speaker 1>That was in the deal. I was like, look, if

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<v Speaker 1>I'm gonna see, if I'm gonna do this, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>you might do most of the work, but this is

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<v Speaker 1>how it's gonna be. I assume there's this. That's it.

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<v Speaker 1>You guys are even split as far as I know.

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<v Speaker 1>Maybe he maybe he does. I don't know. One more.

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<v Speaker 1>Does Dan or Shay sing speechless? Well? We boasting dancing's

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<v Speaker 1>harmony sing the lead? But you yeah, I'm not. I'm

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<v Speaker 1>not that that sounded pretty amazing. I'll be honest with you. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>do you want to join? Yeah? Okay, yeah, that'd be cool.

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<v Speaker 1>Can you imagine if I went out and just we

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<v Speaker 1>didn't say anything about it just as a joke. We

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<v Speaker 1>didn't acknowledge it. We just walked out and you know,

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<v Speaker 1>we did see anything. I just walked out and it

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<v Speaker 1>was like like Danna say, and it's me and and

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<v Speaker 1>we start speakless. And they would totally depend on if,

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<v Speaker 1>like if someone knew that it was you or not,

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<v Speaker 1>because if they did it and they hadn't seen it before,

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<v Speaker 1>they'd be like, I didn't even I had no idea

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<v Speaker 1>that it was three of them. Then no, no, you

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<v Speaker 1>don't know. I don't come now. I put on like

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<v Speaker 1>a black better and I never break character, and I

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<v Speaker 1>sing as great as I can, and just we keep

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<v Speaker 1>cameras in the crowd. We'll see if people are stunned.

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<v Speaker 1>We never acknowledge it. I'll tell you it's gonna be

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<v Speaker 1>it's gonna be a pretty great social experiment that will happen.

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<v Speaker 1>And I can tell you no one will get angry

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<v Speaker 1>it that What kid were you in high school? What

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<v Speaker 1>were you known at shay is the were you the singer? Were? Did? Yeah? Yeah?

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<v Speaker 1>I think yeah, A little great that people knew most

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<v Speaker 1>about you was what probably honestly more that I was

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<v Speaker 1>kind of like the funny guy, I would say, because

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<v Speaker 1>I didn't like sing a ton I did, Like I

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<v Speaker 1>was definitely kind of known for that, but I was.

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<v Speaker 1>I was definitely the class clown. I would say, um,

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<v Speaker 1>but yeah, I did sing at like events, like randomly,

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<v Speaker 1>I would do like we had chapel. It was a

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<v Speaker 1>Christian school, So I would sing in chapel like people

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<v Speaker 1>that you were so good because you didn't do it

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<v Speaker 1>all the time. Oh yeah. Sometimes. I remember when I

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<v Speaker 1>came to school because I started like halfway through a

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<v Speaker 1>fifth grade and so I remember I I like, they

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<v Speaker 1>asked me to sing at chapel, and I was like

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<v Speaker 1>my first I had been. I had sang in church

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<v Speaker 1>and like you know, done that whole thing. But that

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<v Speaker 1>was like my first like real world at school. It

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<v Speaker 1>was like halfway through the year and I came in

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<v Speaker 1>singing at chapel. It's my moment I felt I felt

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<v Speaker 1>really good at what age? Did you? Oh, I'm not

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<v Speaker 1>just good for hearing a small town. I'm actually good

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<v Speaker 1>enough to go and try something outside of what I'm

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<v Speaker 1>accustomed to. Yeah, man, honestly, I was. I was probably

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<v Speaker 1>I was eight years old when we first started coming

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<v Speaker 1>to Nashville because we would make these little trips because

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<v Speaker 1>I would sing with my sisters. I have two older sisters,

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<v Speaker 1>eric As the oldest, and then Gabby um, and we

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<v Speaker 1>would saying. We would travel around and like you know,

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<v Speaker 1>just kind of for fun, we go to churches and

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<v Speaker 1>do the whole deal. Um. And when I was about eight,

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<v Speaker 1>we came to Nashville and at that point I kind

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<v Speaker 1>of told my dad like, I'm I wanna this is

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<v Speaker 1>like what I wanna do. That was just like I

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<v Speaker 1>didn't know that I was like people would. I think

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<v Speaker 1>people a lot of times I kind of assumed that

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<v Speaker 1>I was like this, I don't want to say like prodigy,

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<v Speaker 1>but like was like always insanely good at singing. It

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<v Speaker 1>was just like that wasn't necessarily case. We just everyone

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<v Speaker 1>in my family did it. And I think just for

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<v Speaker 1>the sheer fact that I was young, people would be like, oh,

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<v Speaker 1>he's like he's really good. But we were in small

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<v Speaker 1>you know, this was small towns, so it's kind of

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<v Speaker 1>like I would take it as as a grand assault.

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<v Speaker 1>I think my parents would too, like they knew I was,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, pretty good, but I don't know that it

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<v Speaker 1>was this is gonna be your career kind of thing

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<v Speaker 1>that kind of came honestly later, and I did it.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, I was coming to Nashville since I was eight,

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<v Speaker 1>but it wasn't I never knew. There wasn't a ton

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<v Speaker 1>of people that were just like this is undeniable, Like

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<v Speaker 1>they knew that I was good. But it wasn't until

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<v Speaker 1>I was a little bit older where we had a

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<v Speaker 1>couple of people be like, you should you guys could

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<v Speaker 1>do this, But it was never I don't know, you

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<v Speaker 1>go to college for a year, right, yeah, and then

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<v Speaker 1>you go, I'm gonna go I need to go to

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<v Speaker 1>do music. Yea. What was the point in going to school?

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<v Speaker 1>Where it clicked? Was like, it's gonna be tough, but

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<v Speaker 1>I gotta get out of school. And I actually it

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<v Speaker 1>wasn't even a real It wasn't actually a school. It

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<v Speaker 1>was actually a ministry school. So I went there. It

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<v Speaker 1>was like a nine month program and I had a

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<v Speaker 1>full ride to go to like a music school. And

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<v Speaker 1>I decided right before because my sister Gabby had decided

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<v Speaker 1>she was going to go up to Pittsburgh to go

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<v Speaker 1>to this like nine month you know program, and I

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<v Speaker 1>was just like I kind of wanna I'm gonna go

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<v Speaker 1>with you. I'm gonna do this. And it was kind

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<v Speaker 1>of that I wasn't quite sure what I was gonna

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<v Speaker 1>do with my life. I was about to graduate, and

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<v Speaker 1>I didn't want to go to school for something that

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<v Speaker 1>I already felt like I was. I didn't think I

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<v Speaker 1>was gonna like learn and if I was going for

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<v Speaker 1>like engineering or something like that, which is probably what

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<v Speaker 1>I would have done, I just I didn't want to

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<v Speaker 1>go to school for like performance major, you know, and

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<v Speaker 1>like learn how to sing. I just felt like that

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<v Speaker 1>wasn't really the vibe. And so yeah, I kind of

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<v Speaker 1>took that that nine months and lived in Pittsburgh. Um,

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<v Speaker 1>and then right after that I moved back home, which

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<v Speaker 1>is when kind of the whole tea paying thing happened.

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<v Speaker 1>Which is an interesting thing too, because when you can

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<v Speaker 1>really sing, you can also kind of pick where you sing. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>Even I give Garth as an example, he was singing

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<v Speaker 1>rock songs. Yeah, he was, you know, he was kind

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<v Speaker 1>of finding his place early. Um. So how do you

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<v Speaker 1>get discovered by because what was it called what was

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<v Speaker 1>t paint? It was called nappy boy, Nappy Boy? How

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<v Speaker 1>do you get hooked up with them? How do they

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<v Speaker 1>see you? What are the steps that led you to

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<v Speaker 1>go there? Did you moved to Atlanta for a while.

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<v Speaker 1>I did move to Atlanta, So I was so I

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<v Speaker 1>lived in Pittsburgh and my sister was she had this

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<v Speaker 1>uh she was super good. She a good dancer, like

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<v Speaker 1>she was a choreographer and Tylla's stuff and she was

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<v Speaker 1>had met this guy named Mike who was actually a

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<v Speaker 1>backup dancer for Tea Pain, and so we kind of

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<v Speaker 1>all were hanging out there for a little while. And um,

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<v Speaker 1>long story short, we get back to Arkansas after you know,

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<v Speaker 1>the school, after the nine months, and we're there and

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<v Speaker 1>I just randomly get like a text, was like, Hey,

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<v Speaker 1>what are you doing. I knew he had worked with

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<v Speaker 1>Tea Pain, and I guess he had sent some YouTube

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<v Speaker 1>video mine to Tea Pain. And I was and I

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<v Speaker 1>was at Van Buren actually, and I was in a movie.

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<v Speaker 1>I'll never forget this, and I like he was like, hey,

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<v Speaker 1>like he wants to like, you know, FaceTime you or whatever.

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<v Speaker 1>And I was just like I was in this movie

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<v Speaker 1>and I didn't have any service, and I was like,

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<v Speaker 1>I was like, this is the craziest thing ever. So

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<v Speaker 1>I go out of the movie and my friend was

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<v Speaker 1>like the manager watching was watching him? Did you think

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<v Speaker 1>he was? Like? I thought he was like to have

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<v Speaker 1>heard of this movie is called hot Rod. It was

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<v Speaker 1>like this little project I was working on. So you

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<v Speaker 1>leave the theater, Yeah, so I leave it. So I

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<v Speaker 1>walked outside and I didn't have any WiFi and this

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<v Speaker 1>service wasn't good enough, so I had to get on WiFi.

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<v Speaker 1>I think it was a FaceTime call. I can't remember

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<v Speaker 1>if that was even a thing then, but either way,

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<v Speaker 1>I didn't have any service. I had to like go

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<v Speaker 1>get on the WiFi. So my friend was the manager

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<v Speaker 1>there and like gave me the WiFi passard and I'm

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<v Speaker 1>in like this back room at the movie theater like

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<v Speaker 1>face timing or whatever. T pain and he was like, hey,

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<v Speaker 1>I want you come to Memphis, like we're playing a show.

0:13:29.400 --> 0:13:30.920
<v Speaker 1>There was him and Chris Brown. I want you to come,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, play with us and and do this whole deal.

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<v Speaker 1>So I was just like, yeah, all right, let's just

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<v Speaker 1>do this whole deal. Mean, I didn't have no idea.

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<v Speaker 1>To this day, I don't know what that meant. You

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<v Speaker 1>know those moments like you get the call and you're

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<v Speaker 1>just like yeah, whatever it is I'm down yea, And

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<v Speaker 1>that got me into a lot of trouble probably at

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<v Speaker 1>some points in my life. Like whatever that is, I'm

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<v Speaker 1>doing it. So the legend of the fort which in

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<v Speaker 1>different places we've talked about, but you guys met in

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<v Speaker 1>the living room for at a house which you've been

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<v Speaker 1>backed by. Have even seen you guys posted before, Um

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<v Speaker 1>Dan was living in that house and you went over

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<v Speaker 1>to the house I did, So I was living on

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<v Speaker 1>I was living with my buddy actually at the time,

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<v Speaker 1>um I had I was, I was, I think I

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<v Speaker 1>was maybe I don't even remember how if I even

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<v Speaker 1>was paying him, but I was basically sleeping on his

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<v Speaker 1>couch for like a little while. His name was Brandon Metcalf,

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<v Speaker 1>great guy, and he had a studio and I was

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<v Speaker 1>like working a lot with him when I had moved

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<v Speaker 1>to Nashville and kind of had my place, and um

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<v Speaker 1>there was a guy named Andrew um that just one

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<v Speaker 1>night we had been writing a lot and he told

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<v Speaker 1>me he was like, man, I'm going over to these

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<v Speaker 1>guys house. They had a band at the time. He's like,

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<v Speaker 1>they're having a house party. Uh, you know, you want

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<v Speaker 1>to come with me? And I was just like, yeah, sure,

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<v Speaker 1>let's do it. And at that time it was just

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<v Speaker 1>kind of like any time you could go somewhere without

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<v Speaker 1>spending any money. And he knew that there was like

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<v Speaker 1>we knew that there was a keg, and I was

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<v Speaker 1>like a little bit of englishment that's that's always changed,

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<v Speaker 1>was like, do you think they go like pizza or

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<v Speaker 1>someone like I haven't even like a couple of days,

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<v Speaker 1>but it was like, yeah, we showed up at this

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<v Speaker 1>house and little did I know that that night was

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<v Speaker 1>going to completely change my life. At number three, this

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<v Speaker 1>is the pretty recent one. This is Russell Dickerson from

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<v Speaker 1>the New House, the New Studio. I'm not sure if

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<v Speaker 1>I'm mentioning this clip or not, but I drove up

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<v Speaker 1>to the house and he was standing out in the

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<v Speaker 1>dark by himself, and he's a tall hunting figure. It's

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<v Speaker 1>the lights aren't on. He's a he's a big old boy.

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<v Speaker 1>Here you go, number three. Do you feel though, now

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<v Speaker 1>with four number ones, like you can take a breath,

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<v Speaker 1>not in a way of relaxing, but in not worrying

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<v Speaker 1>that you won't stay? Yeah, a little bit. I mean

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<v Speaker 1>with everyone that gets that way, And I think why

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<v Speaker 1>this one is so special is because it's off album too,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, And I think this kind of nips the

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<v Speaker 1>sophomore slump in the bud. You know, this is the

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<v Speaker 1>first song from the second album, but the four record

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<v Speaker 1>is and I don't know it's right. It's called Southern.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm the biggest Russell Dickerson stand there is. So the

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<v Speaker 1>song is out, the record is not yet, and you

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<v Speaker 1>already have a number one before the records even out?

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<v Speaker 1>Come on? What else can you ask? But I don't know.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know. That's like best case scenario. So it

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<v Speaker 1>comes out December four. Let me play your four number

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<v Speaker 1>one in the case we have some brand new Russell

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<v Speaker 1>Dee fans. All right, yours? Here you go first, which is,

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<v Speaker 1>by the way, funny story. I of course, I'm just

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<v Speaker 1>gonna go ahead and interrupt you there. Yes, I will

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<v Speaker 1>come sing at your wedding. Wasn't the question? That's funny.

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<v Speaker 1>Caitlin and I were listening to songs last night because

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<v Speaker 1>she's trying to find a song to walk down the

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<v Speaker 1>aisle too. She doesn't want to walk down to Dada,

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<v Speaker 1>and we wanted to pick a song that meant a

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<v Speaker 1>lot to us. But we were scrolling and why I

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<v Speaker 1>think about yours is because there's a whole wedding mix

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<v Speaker 1>of this song too that I didn't even know. It's

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<v Speaker 1>how is it different though? It's just there's no drums,

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<v Speaker 1>there's no you know, there's no big guitar solo. It's

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<v Speaker 1>like a kind of piano cello. We vibe. But we

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<v Speaker 1>didn't pick it, but it was up there in the

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<v Speaker 1>top ten. We just but I was like, hey, this

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<v Speaker 1>song is really great. I was like, I love Russell.

0:17:14.720 --> 0:17:17.600
<v Speaker 1>We just didn't have a story to it as a couple.

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<v Speaker 1>Absolutely happen to like defend myself and I'm like, hey man,

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<v Speaker 1>that's a great song, trust me. So that was your

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<v Speaker 1>first number one. Here is Blue Tacoma, Here is every

0:17:32.800 --> 0:17:38.479
<v Speaker 1>little thing. I mean, that's a jam. Listen of all

0:17:38.560 --> 0:17:40.520
<v Speaker 1>of your listen, they're all good, right, but that's the

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<v Speaker 1>one that it comes on. I can't get it out

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<v Speaker 1>of my head. Yes, that's the goal. I mean, that's

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<v Speaker 1>the ultimate goal. And you know it's not a slow

0:17:49.119 --> 0:17:51.040
<v Speaker 1>love song. So your sets, one of your big hits

0:17:51.040 --> 0:17:53.800
<v Speaker 1>has got an energy, got to Yeah, that's what was

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<v Speaker 1>so huge about this song actually taken off was like

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<v Speaker 1>we finally have more than I mean I remember having

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<v Speaker 1>to teach people blue to Elma in the crowd, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>and so to have that, you know, it's kind of

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<v Speaker 1>mid ish. But then every little thing bro and that

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<v Speaker 1>was a yeah so, and every little thing was just

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<v Speaker 1>like I felt so good to having the set and

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<v Speaker 1>this I love you like I used to, which it

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<v Speaker 1>feels like just looking at the title, like you're saying

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<v Speaker 1>I don't love you like I used to in a

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<v Speaker 1>bad way. Do you know that? Do you know that?

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<v Speaker 1>When you absolutely alright? So, but it doesn't mean that

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<v Speaker 1>at all. No, So in the first verse, we kind

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<v Speaker 1>of wanted that to be the kind of fake out.

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<v Speaker 1>It's like I've always loved you, but something's changed, Blame

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<v Speaker 1>it on time, whatever, but it's not the same, you

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<v Speaker 1>know what I mean. It's up until the course just

0:18:37.960 --> 0:18:39.919
<v Speaker 1>punches you in the face. That's what we wanted you

0:18:39.960 --> 0:18:42.080
<v Speaker 1>to think that it was a breakup song. But it's

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<v Speaker 1>like this gets better every time you kissed me like this,

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<v Speaker 1>you know what I mean. So I'm such a melody

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<v Speaker 1>guy that it took me a while. I was like, Okay,

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<v Speaker 1>well he's said about something, But then I just knew

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<v Speaker 1>na no no, no, no, no, no no no, no, but

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<v Speaker 1>then it took me a little bit as just a

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<v Speaker 1>guy that doesn't know lyrics. Right, good, good though. Congratulations man, man,

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<v Speaker 1>this is a big week. Is all of these songs?

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<v Speaker 1>Were they written with all four of them written with

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<v Speaker 1>the same folks, same folks? Yeah, Casey Brown and Parker Welling,

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<v Speaker 1>my Bellmont friends. That was like I tried the I

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<v Speaker 1>tried the hit songwriter a out, you know, I wrote

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<v Speaker 1>with I mean, I don't have to name all the people,

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<v Speaker 1>but I wrote with all the who's who's the songwriters,

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<v Speaker 1>and it just didn't the magic. Wasn't there? Do they have?

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<v Speaker 1>Because I don't know either one of them, and I'm

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<v Speaker 1>I'm saying it's in the most respectful way. There's obviously

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<v Speaker 1>something that clicks with the battery of you three. Have

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<v Speaker 1>they written other massive hits or big hits? This is

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<v Speaker 1>all our first four number one. That's awesome, so cool man,

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<v Speaker 1>It's I mean even I like yours, the first number

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<v Speaker 1>one we all had together. Dude. I was just like

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<v Speaker 1>standing up there, you know how you have the number

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<v Speaker 1>one parties and everybody gather around, there's chips and salsa

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<v Speaker 1>and everything, and I'm just like standing up on the stages,

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<v Speaker 1>crying because like it's been it's been a long journey

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<v Speaker 1>to get to this point into all for all three

0:19:57.440 --> 0:20:00.359
<v Speaker 1>of us who went to Belmont together and all had

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<v Speaker 1>our first number one together. It's just like one of

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<v Speaker 1>those so super special moments. Is that how you and

0:20:05.440 --> 0:20:09.320
<v Speaker 1>Tyler Hubbard are friends from column? Yeah, they came to

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<v Speaker 1>one of my first shows ever, Brian and Tyler. So

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<v Speaker 1>they came and I was probably playing to like eight

0:20:16.920 --> 0:20:18.800
<v Speaker 1>people at twelfth and quarter and to it then we're

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<v Speaker 1>Brian and ty Yeah. Yeah, so they were literally a

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<v Speaker 1>quarter of the crowd and uh man, it's just like

0:20:24.359 --> 0:20:26.480
<v Speaker 1>they came up to me afterwards and were like, hey, bro,

0:20:26.600 --> 0:20:29.000
<v Speaker 1>cool vibe cool songs. Well, they weren't friends with yours

0:20:29.080 --> 0:20:32.960
<v Speaker 1>then they saw you, yeah, and so they were. They

0:20:32.960 --> 0:20:34.919
<v Speaker 1>were like songwriters at the time. They were just like,

0:20:34.920 --> 0:20:37.000
<v Speaker 1>we want to write. We've been writing songs together. So

0:20:37.040 --> 0:20:39.920
<v Speaker 1>they invited me over. We wrote my pretty much first

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<v Speaker 1>EP together with F G L. And that was like

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<v Speaker 1>the start of it all, I mean, not not for me,

0:20:47.280 --> 0:20:49.800
<v Speaker 1>and then then it was a start of it for

0:20:49.840 --> 0:20:53.639
<v Speaker 1>them because they went from just nothing too. They played

0:20:53.640 --> 0:20:55.520
<v Speaker 1>me the demo for Cruise and I was like well,

0:20:56.320 --> 0:20:59.359
<v Speaker 1>see you all later, bro, because y'all are gone taking

0:20:59.400 --> 0:21:02.080
<v Speaker 1>off And you guys are like close family friends. Yeah,

0:21:02.240 --> 0:21:04.720
<v Speaker 1>you and Tyler, Yeah, we're very close. I feel like

0:21:04.760 --> 0:21:07.720
<v Speaker 1>every second Instagram pictures you on his or his on yours. Yeah,

0:21:08.000 --> 0:21:11.880
<v Speaker 1>he's coronaing right now and the bus he is, he's

0:21:12.000 --> 0:21:15.480
<v Speaker 1>straight up quarantining. Have you talked to him? Is he playing? Like?

0:21:15.640 --> 0:21:16.800
<v Speaker 1>Was he playing video Guess what I would do. I

0:21:16.840 --> 0:21:18.960
<v Speaker 1>put myself in the mindset I was playing video games

0:21:19.040 --> 0:21:20.320
<v Speaker 1>or if I was trapped in a bus, I play

0:21:20.359 --> 0:21:22.879
<v Speaker 1>video games. I would have all the time in the

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<v Speaker 1>world to work, but I would keep going. Well, since

0:21:24.480 --> 0:21:25.800
<v Speaker 1>I have all this time, I'm not gonna work yet,

0:21:25.920 --> 0:21:28.359
<v Speaker 1>and my work would continue to put off. What is

0:21:28.359 --> 0:21:30.879
<v Speaker 1>he doing? The same way? He told me he's written

0:21:30.880 --> 0:21:33.800
<v Speaker 1>like five songs by himself already, and he's just like

0:21:34.200 --> 0:21:36.280
<v Speaker 1>that's him though, he just like never stops. I mean

0:21:36.320 --> 0:21:38.800
<v Speaker 1>you never stop either. But I don't have a talent,

0:21:39.000 --> 0:21:43.360
<v Speaker 1>Like I don't have a skill that stone telling you

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<v Speaker 1>this is the truth my podcast, let me talk. I

0:21:47.800 --> 0:21:50.600
<v Speaker 1>don't have something that I can just bet all the

0:21:50.680 --> 0:21:53.000
<v Speaker 1>chips on and go. This is my talent. I stand

0:21:53.000 --> 0:21:58.440
<v Speaker 1>behind it. My my skill is knowing that my grind

0:21:58.760 --> 0:22:02.080
<v Speaker 1>is going to keep me year. I've worked, We've all

0:22:02.080 --> 0:22:03.920
<v Speaker 1>worked extremely hard. But at least you can sing. I

0:22:03.920 --> 0:22:06.320
<v Speaker 1>can do nothing. I go out and I fail and

0:22:06.359 --> 0:22:09.480
<v Speaker 1>figure things out slowly but shortly. But thank you for

0:22:09.520 --> 0:22:12.080
<v Speaker 1>saying that. But I think I think you're never gonna

0:22:12.080 --> 0:22:14.639
<v Speaker 1>convince me I'm talented. And when people tell me, if

0:22:14.640 --> 0:22:16.960
<v Speaker 1>people like, man, you're you're very talented, I get offended,

0:22:18.080 --> 0:22:22.240
<v Speaker 1>like me and you're you're you're so talented, yeah, because

0:22:22.240 --> 0:22:25.240
<v Speaker 1>I'm like, no, I'm not talented at all. I just

0:22:25.240 --> 0:22:28.960
<v Speaker 1>show up. Yeah, Which is weird that I get upset

0:22:28.960 --> 0:22:31.159
<v Speaker 1>at folks for telling me I'm talented. Like even Russell

0:22:31.160 --> 0:22:34.040
<v Speaker 1>said that triggered me. I was like, I was like,

0:22:34.119 --> 0:22:38.200
<v Speaker 1>that's not true. I was reading your your wife's Instagram, which,

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<v Speaker 1>by the way, if you want to hear Russell's whole

0:22:40.280 --> 0:22:43.480
<v Speaker 1>origin story because you are basically an X man, basically,

0:22:44.440 --> 0:22:46.480
<v Speaker 1>there's one of these with Russell and his wife the

0:22:46.520 --> 0:22:49.000
<v Speaker 1>first time, maybe the first time we met. That's when

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<v Speaker 1>that was no, right around right around then, because your

0:22:52.920 --> 0:22:55.879
<v Speaker 1>wife saved me outside of the Ryman doing a show,

0:22:56.440 --> 0:22:58.679
<v Speaker 1>and then you guys came up a couple of days later. Ye,

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<v Speaker 1>all I know is they're I'm going to the back

0:23:01.119 --> 0:23:03.159
<v Speaker 1>door with the rheman. There are a lot of folks

0:23:03.520 --> 0:23:06.399
<v Speaker 1>and a lot of those autographed people that want you

0:23:06.440 --> 0:23:08.520
<v Speaker 1>to sign something so I can sell it immediately. And

0:23:08.640 --> 0:23:12.199
<v Speaker 1>I'm being hounded and a voice jumps in from the

0:23:12.240 --> 0:23:15.600
<v Speaker 1>clouds and goes stop, he has to get inside. And

0:23:15.680 --> 0:23:17.080
<v Speaker 1>I looked over and I was like, who is this

0:23:17.160 --> 0:23:19.280
<v Speaker 1>master figure? And it was your wife. And she has

0:23:19.280 --> 0:23:21.840
<v Speaker 1>scored me in the in the in the rhyman for

0:23:21.880 --> 0:23:24.200
<v Speaker 1>the an opera show that me, you and Michael Ray did. Yeah,

0:23:24.200 --> 0:23:25.920
<v Speaker 1>we were there for that. Yeah, all right enough, I'm

0:23:25.920 --> 0:23:28.359
<v Speaker 1>gonna read you something she wrote. This was on his

0:23:28.600 --> 0:23:31.480
<v Speaker 1>on her Instagram. This man is celebrating his fourth number

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<v Speaker 1>one on Cunt Radio this week. I'll never stop celebrating

0:23:34.119 --> 0:23:37.160
<v Speaker 1>your accomplishments at Russell d the little ones, the big ones,

0:23:37.320 --> 0:23:39.800
<v Speaker 1>and this is a big one. I'll never stop celebrating

0:23:39.840 --> 0:23:41.560
<v Speaker 1>because I know what it cost to get us here,

0:23:41.960 --> 0:23:45.600
<v Speaker 1>sleeping on seatbelts and vans, watching you put on an

0:23:45.640 --> 0:23:47.959
<v Speaker 1>arena worthy show to six people in a field who

0:23:48.000 --> 0:23:51.280
<v Speaker 1>would listen, barely getting by being told no over and

0:23:51.320 --> 0:23:54.240
<v Speaker 1>over again. All of it. You never wavered, not in

0:23:54.280 --> 0:23:57.280
<v Speaker 1>your dreams, your work, ethic, or in your character. Some

0:23:57.320 --> 0:23:59.440
<v Speaker 1>people are giving success in spite of who they are,

0:23:59.680 --> 0:24:01.320
<v Speaker 1>and you were given it because of who you are.

0:24:01.600 --> 0:24:03.399
<v Speaker 1>I'm so thankful our son has you to look up

0:24:03.440 --> 0:24:07.240
<v Speaker 1>to in every way. Four for four baby, let's celebrate

0:24:07.240 --> 0:24:10.240
<v Speaker 1>with some corrabas. Thank you Jesus. There are a lot

0:24:10.240 --> 0:24:12.960
<v Speaker 1>of people like to talk about in this paragraph. For sure.

0:24:13.200 --> 0:24:15.359
<v Speaker 1>I think your wife's fantastic. By the way, Oh my gosh, dude,

0:24:15.400 --> 0:24:19.439
<v Speaker 1>she's such a writer, man, she is lover. Okay, up, first,

0:24:19.920 --> 0:24:23.679
<v Speaker 1>let's talk about the sleeping on seatbelts and vans straight up,

0:24:23.760 --> 0:24:25.560
<v Speaker 1>because when you have to lay down in a van

0:24:25.680 --> 0:24:28.159
<v Speaker 1>and you can't get the seatbelt all, there's nowhere to

0:24:28.160 --> 0:24:30.359
<v Speaker 1>put it. We'll go into the seat. Yeah, there's there's

0:24:30.400 --> 0:24:33.119
<v Speaker 1>the seatbelt, like the actual belt with the buckle, and

0:24:33.160 --> 0:24:35.640
<v Speaker 1>then there's what you bug into that literally is up

0:24:35.680 --> 0:24:38.000
<v Speaker 1>your crack. You can try, you can put a pillow

0:24:38.000 --> 0:24:41.439
<v Speaker 1>over it never stays still, your hip bones just digging

0:24:41.480 --> 0:24:45.080
<v Speaker 1>into du It's the God bless any and everyone still

0:24:45.200 --> 0:24:47.119
<v Speaker 1>to ourn in vans. I'd like to tell her that

0:24:47.200 --> 0:24:49.639
<v Speaker 1>was a really fantastic reference that I could feel in

0:24:49.680 --> 0:24:52.280
<v Speaker 1>my body, because when I first started touring doing comedy,

0:24:52.320 --> 0:24:54.960
<v Speaker 1>I just slept in a sprinter van in the middle

0:24:55.000 --> 0:24:57.800
<v Speaker 1>seat because the back seat had crap in it, but

0:24:57.840 --> 0:25:01.280
<v Speaker 1>the middle seats that seatbeats sp or bro tell me

0:25:01.320 --> 0:25:04.320
<v Speaker 1>about a because she must be talking about a show specifically.

0:25:04.359 --> 0:25:06.920
<v Speaker 1>She remembers, were you ever in a field and there

0:25:07.000 --> 0:25:10.080
<v Speaker 1>was Oh, yeah, absolutely, we were opening up. I bet

0:25:10.080 --> 0:25:13.359
<v Speaker 1>the one she's talking about is, well, dude, there's been

0:25:13.400 --> 0:25:17.879
<v Speaker 1>a lot. Actually I have go pro footage of this show.

0:25:18.280 --> 0:25:20.840
<v Speaker 1>It was. It's so we did the knack A circuit,

0:25:20.920 --> 0:25:25.679
<v Speaker 1>which is national collegiate whatever association of whatever. So they

0:25:25.720 --> 0:25:27.760
<v Speaker 1>put on shows. So they brought us in for like

0:25:27.920 --> 0:25:33.040
<v Speaker 1>maybe two bucks. So we drive eight hours a whole band, everybody,

0:25:33.520 --> 0:25:38.720
<v Speaker 1>and it's further like you name it, like registration day,

0:25:39.080 --> 0:25:42.240
<v Speaker 1>but like nobody cares, you know what I mean, Like

0:25:42.280 --> 0:25:46.199
<v Speaker 1>nobody came to this function and they just like they

0:25:46.240 --> 0:25:49.119
<v Speaker 1>had like cotton candy and popcorn and everything, and there

0:25:49.160 --> 0:25:53.679
<v Speaker 1>was legit, maybe twenty total people just scattered around these

0:25:53.720 --> 0:25:57.320
<v Speaker 1>little stations and like zero people up at the stage

0:25:57.320 --> 0:26:00.920
<v Speaker 1>watching us, and so you know that was normal for us.

0:26:01.200 --> 0:26:05.919
<v Speaker 1>What goes on in your mind whenever you've been paid

0:26:05.920 --> 0:26:09.879
<v Speaker 1>to do a show, but nobody cares. My honestly, my

0:26:09.920 --> 0:26:14.119
<v Speaker 1>mindset was will get there one day. Like I I

0:26:14.200 --> 0:26:17.920
<v Speaker 1>just if I had gained six new fans that show

0:26:18.000 --> 0:26:21.239
<v Speaker 1>she's talking about, then great. Like that was my mindset of, like,

0:26:21.359 --> 0:26:24.040
<v Speaker 1>we will get there one day, six people at a

0:26:24.040 --> 0:26:26.679
<v Speaker 1>time if we have to, you know, And like it

0:26:26.800 --> 0:26:30.280
<v Speaker 1>was just in my mind, it was just arenas And

0:26:30.359 --> 0:26:33.160
<v Speaker 1>you know, I watched Garth Brooks DVDs, I watched Keith

0:26:33.240 --> 0:26:36.520
<v Speaker 1>Urban's DVDs of their their live show, and I just like,

0:26:37.240 --> 0:26:40.360
<v Speaker 1>in my mind, I would just kinda go there when

0:26:40.359 --> 0:26:43.520
<v Speaker 1>there's no one, when no one cares and there's six

0:26:43.560 --> 0:26:46.399
<v Speaker 1>people in a field. Isn't it crazy too? You mentioned

0:26:46.480 --> 0:26:48.600
<v Speaker 1>Keith he used to play in an airport. He would

0:26:48.640 --> 0:26:50.840
<v Speaker 1>stand on that that thing where the bags went around,

0:26:52.080 --> 0:26:54.439
<v Speaker 1>and he would say people would be annoyed that they

0:26:54.480 --> 0:26:57.800
<v Speaker 1>were playing and he had to visualize something like there's

0:26:57.800 --> 0:26:59.960
<v Speaker 1>something that he had to focus on just to get

0:27:00.000 --> 0:27:02.159
<v Speaker 1>to that next step. Yeah, now here you are. And

0:27:02.200 --> 0:27:03.520
<v Speaker 1>we have a lot of new artists that listened to

0:27:03.560 --> 0:27:05.960
<v Speaker 1>this podcast specifically because we put on producers, who put

0:27:06.000 --> 0:27:07.879
<v Speaker 1>on managers. You know, it's a little more on the

0:27:07.880 --> 0:27:10.080
<v Speaker 1>weeds But what's great is you're talking about this because

0:27:10.080 --> 0:27:11.760
<v Speaker 1>there are a lot of new artists right now listening

0:27:12.280 --> 0:27:16.000
<v Speaker 1>who feel like they can't get that full step forward.

0:27:16.040 --> 0:27:19.760
<v Speaker 1>It's it's constantly a step backward. What do you tell them?

0:27:19.920 --> 0:27:21.760
<v Speaker 1>You just gotta keep showing, Like you said, you gotta

0:27:21.840 --> 0:27:25.080
<v Speaker 1>keep showing up. That was what, And you have to

0:27:25.359 --> 0:27:28.280
<v Speaker 1>you have to do it humbly. You can't you can't

0:27:28.359 --> 0:27:30.679
<v Speaker 1>rush trying to. You can't be too good for that

0:27:30.720 --> 0:27:33.320
<v Speaker 1>two fifty dollar show, you know what I mean, Like

0:27:33.359 --> 0:27:35.400
<v Speaker 1>there comes to a point where it financially doesn't make sense,

0:27:35.440 --> 0:27:38.880
<v Speaker 1>and it didn't, but you know I was, you just

0:27:38.920 --> 0:27:42.360
<v Speaker 1>have to show up and show up humbly and keep

0:27:42.400 --> 0:27:45.320
<v Speaker 1>showing up taking two fifty because two fifty will turn

0:27:45.359 --> 0:27:48.840
<v Speaker 1>into five hundred to a thousand to five, you know,

0:27:49.080 --> 0:27:52.800
<v Speaker 1>until you're opening up for Thomas Rhett, opening up for

0:27:52.920 --> 0:27:55.879
<v Speaker 1>Kane Brown, and you know that was I know. I

0:27:55.920 --> 0:27:58.800
<v Speaker 1>don't take any show for granted because I've been I've

0:27:58.800 --> 0:28:01.720
<v Speaker 1>been there. You know. It's like it's like rich people

0:28:01.720 --> 0:28:04.760
<v Speaker 1>who used to be homeless, like they know they came

0:28:04.840 --> 0:28:08.520
<v Speaker 1>from nothing and now they have every I'm not saying

0:28:08.520 --> 0:28:11.400
<v Speaker 1>I'm rich. I'm saying you know, listen, I know because

0:28:11.400 --> 0:28:14.840
<v Speaker 1>I'm living it like I was a welfare food stamp kid,

0:28:15.160 --> 0:28:17.520
<v Speaker 1>and so I appreciate what I have even more than

0:28:17.560 --> 0:28:20.760
<v Speaker 1>that the same way that you're talking about. Um, I

0:28:20.800 --> 0:28:22.040
<v Speaker 1>want to mention one of the thing and I want

0:28:22.080 --> 0:28:24.560
<v Speaker 1>to go back. But Corrab is that is also a

0:28:24.600 --> 0:28:28.160
<v Speaker 1>place that Caitlin and we'll do Olive Garden on normal nights,

0:28:28.200 --> 0:28:30.639
<v Speaker 1>but when we get fancy, we go to Corrabs because

0:28:30.760 --> 0:28:34.960
<v Speaker 1>we're speaking our language. Because Crab is like nicer. Both

0:28:34.960 --> 0:28:39.000
<v Speaker 1>are great, love them both, but Corrabs I might wear pants,

0:28:39.360 --> 0:28:43.640
<v Speaker 1>I can wear sweatstall gardens. I feel like I need

0:28:43.680 --> 0:28:46.600
<v Speaker 1>something with a scene. Yeah. Well because the first of all,

0:28:47.000 --> 0:28:50.040
<v Speaker 1>the wait staff is dressed a little night, they're dressed nicer,

0:28:50.720 --> 0:28:59.040
<v Speaker 1>you know what I'm saying. Yeah, Crab is fantastic at

0:28:59.120 --> 0:29:00.920
<v Speaker 1>number two. And this was tough because two and one

0:29:00.920 --> 0:29:04.560
<v Speaker 1>are both really good. Morgan Wallen has really only long

0:29:04.640 --> 0:29:07.240
<v Speaker 1>form interviews since all the drama. We were the first

0:29:07.240 --> 0:29:09.040
<v Speaker 1>place he came. He was like, Hey, I want to

0:29:09.040 --> 0:29:11.200
<v Speaker 1>talk about this and kind of get it over with.

0:29:12.040 --> 0:29:13.600
<v Speaker 1>I was like, cool, come to the house. He did,

0:29:13.640 --> 0:29:15.200
<v Speaker 1>and then we played piano over with the hell at

0:29:15.200 --> 0:29:18.000
<v Speaker 1>my house number two. Here's Morgan Wallen when you cut

0:29:18.040 --> 0:29:20.880
<v Speaker 1>the mullet, because I credit you to the entire country

0:29:20.920 --> 0:29:24.320
<v Speaker 1>music mullet world. You were the first one that said, hey,

0:29:24.320 --> 0:29:25.760
<v Speaker 1>this is just what it is. Now everybody does that

0:29:25.800 --> 0:29:27.560
<v Speaker 1>a little bit, but honest to God, and I'm not

0:29:27.640 --> 0:29:29.600
<v Speaker 1>just blowing smoke every buck as you're here, you were

0:29:29.600 --> 0:29:31.680
<v Speaker 1>the first one to kind of bring it back and

0:29:31.720 --> 0:29:34.520
<v Speaker 1>make it cool again. Back. Yeah, I'll say I didn't

0:29:34.520 --> 0:29:38.000
<v Speaker 1>invent it. I mean yeah, but I'm saying that the

0:29:38.040 --> 0:29:40.680
<v Speaker 1>next generation of country guys, even some of the older

0:29:40.720 --> 0:29:43.480
<v Speaker 1>guys that are being funny and cutting it's all because

0:29:43.480 --> 0:29:46.400
<v Speaker 1>of you. You know that, right. I got a pretty

0:29:46.400 --> 0:29:48.520
<v Speaker 1>good feeling that I definitely had a good part in it.

0:29:48.720 --> 0:29:50.400
<v Speaker 1>Why why did you cut them all in? And did

0:29:50.400 --> 0:29:54.280
<v Speaker 1>you expect it to last? Uh? Well I had after

0:29:54.360 --> 0:29:55.720
<v Speaker 1>I cut my long hair. I kind of just had

0:29:55.760 --> 0:30:01.160
<v Speaker 1>a haircut, you know. And as as I remember, um

0:30:01.320 --> 0:30:04.080
<v Speaker 1>Stacy at CMT told me one time, he was like,

0:30:04.440 --> 0:30:07.120
<v Speaker 1>you can usually tell if you can look at a

0:30:07.160 --> 0:30:09.840
<v Speaker 1>silhouette of a person, you can usually tell that's them.

0:30:10.040 --> 0:30:12.320
<v Speaker 1>I was like, well, I don't know if you could

0:30:12.320 --> 0:30:14.640
<v Speaker 1>do that with me right now. So I started thinking

0:30:14.640 --> 0:30:17.719
<v Speaker 1>you know, and I couldn't really didn't really think anything.

0:30:17.760 --> 0:30:19.120
<v Speaker 1>So I was like, well, whatever, I'm just gonna to

0:30:19.200 --> 0:30:21.440
<v Speaker 1>let my music speak for itself, I guess. And then

0:30:21.520 --> 0:30:24.160
<v Speaker 1>I went back home to uh my parents on Easter.

0:30:24.360 --> 0:30:26.440
<v Speaker 1>I guess it was three years ago. Now, maybe maybe

0:30:26.520 --> 0:30:29.840
<v Speaker 1>you have three I think, And uh I was looking

0:30:29.840 --> 0:30:32.360
<v Speaker 1>through a photo album of my parents when they got married.

0:30:32.880 --> 0:30:35.520
<v Speaker 1>My dad had a mullet, and uh, me and him

0:30:35.600 --> 0:30:37.200
<v Speaker 1>look a lot of like, we're just a lot of

0:30:37.200 --> 0:30:39.400
<v Speaker 1>like in general. And he was twenty five when he

0:30:39.440 --> 0:30:41.240
<v Speaker 1>got married, and I was twenty five at the time,

0:30:41.280 --> 0:30:43.640
<v Speaker 1>so I guess not even three years almost three years ago,

0:30:44.240 --> 0:30:46.600
<v Speaker 1>and uh I was either five whatever. I was the same,

0:30:46.760 --> 0:30:48.480
<v Speaker 1>around the same age as him, Like, well, Dad, you

0:30:48.480 --> 0:30:50.160
<v Speaker 1>look pretty good in that. If if you can do that,

0:30:50.600 --> 0:30:52.320
<v Speaker 1>I can do that. I'm gonna wear a mullet. He

0:30:52.360 --> 0:30:54.080
<v Speaker 1>was like, all right, man, I don't He probably didn't

0:30:54.080 --> 0:30:56.560
<v Speaker 1>believe me or whatever. But I went back and told

0:30:56.600 --> 0:31:00.200
<v Speaker 1>Amy Amy Cruiz is my Amy George Julias I was

0:31:00.240 --> 0:31:02.520
<v Speaker 1>her last name. I knew her when she was Amy Cruz,

0:31:02.600 --> 0:31:06.120
<v Speaker 1>but um she I told her. I said, Hey, Amy,

0:31:06.160 --> 0:31:07.800
<v Speaker 1>I think I think I know what her could I

0:31:07.800 --> 0:31:10.120
<v Speaker 1>want to think I'm gonna get a mullet. She was

0:31:10.200 --> 0:31:12.520
<v Speaker 1>like really, I said yeah, and she was aw for

0:31:12.760 --> 0:31:14.880
<v Speaker 1>She's like yeah, yeah. So I was like, all right, cool.

0:31:15.200 --> 0:31:17.800
<v Speaker 1>And then you know my label management there there, I

0:31:17.840 --> 0:31:21.760
<v Speaker 1>tell them I'm getting one, like what, no, please, God no,

0:31:22.320 --> 0:31:24.160
<v Speaker 1>And I'm like, y'all know what happens when you'll tell

0:31:24.160 --> 0:31:26.480
<v Speaker 1>me no, I'm gonna do exactly the opposite of that.

0:31:26.960 --> 0:31:29.920
<v Speaker 1>So I did. I grew it, and uh, I did not.

0:31:30.080 --> 0:31:32.560
<v Speaker 1>But I didn't expect it. It wasn't like I had

0:31:32.560 --> 0:31:35.640
<v Speaker 1>forgotten about the whole silhouette thing at that point. It

0:31:35.760 --> 0:31:38.160
<v Speaker 1>wasn't like I didn't expect it to become a thing.

0:31:38.200 --> 0:31:40.600
<v Speaker 1>I didn't expect to show up at shows and dudes

0:31:40.640 --> 0:31:42.920
<v Speaker 1>are wearing mullets and cut off flannels. I just I

0:31:42.960 --> 0:31:45.160
<v Speaker 1>don't know. I just I just liked how it looks

0:31:45.200 --> 0:31:48.840
<v Speaker 1>and and and uh, Harry, we are. Yeah, that's I mean,

0:31:48.840 --> 0:31:52.480
<v Speaker 1>that's what I know, isn't it you? And because it's

0:31:52.520 --> 0:31:57.720
<v Speaker 1>such a lasting first impression. But again, much like up down,

0:31:58.040 --> 0:31:59.720
<v Speaker 1>it's like you're the mullet guy. That's how you get

0:31:59.720 --> 0:32:01.600
<v Speaker 1>in the door. Or but then you kind of open

0:32:01.680 --> 0:32:03.240
<v Speaker 1>your rib cage up and you're like this is the

0:32:03.240 --> 0:32:05.880
<v Speaker 1>rest of me. Like the mullet gets you in the

0:32:05.960 --> 0:32:09.440
<v Speaker 1>heart is what makes you last, right, Yeah, And that's

0:32:09.480 --> 0:32:10.760
<v Speaker 1>a good way to put it. I've never thought of

0:32:10.800 --> 0:32:13.320
<v Speaker 1>it that way. But you know, people, whether they like

0:32:13.400 --> 0:32:14.880
<v Speaker 1>it or they hate it, they're still gonna say that's

0:32:14.880 --> 0:32:17.440
<v Speaker 1>a mullet, you know. And I wear really darker un glasses.

0:32:17.640 --> 0:32:19.920
<v Speaker 1>I'm just a generic white guy, right, I really am

0:32:19.960 --> 0:32:23.600
<v Speaker 1>just another generic white And so I was going, well,

0:32:23.640 --> 0:32:26.120
<v Speaker 1>I can't see what can I do to make me

0:32:26.160 --> 0:32:28.560
<v Speaker 1>stand out? Because I always thought if someone could draw

0:32:28.600 --> 0:32:31.560
<v Speaker 1>a character of you pretty easily, that means that what

0:32:31.600 --> 0:32:33.120
<v Speaker 1>you're doing stands it. So I was like, I'm just

0:32:33.160 --> 0:32:35.560
<v Speaker 1>gonna a big, darker un glasses and that's where that

0:32:35.600 --> 0:32:40.680
<v Speaker 1>comes from. Kind of the same idea about the silhouette. Yeah,

0:32:41.440 --> 0:32:43.760
<v Speaker 1>I guess I'll just never forget Stacy's staying that to me, man,

0:32:44.080 --> 0:32:46.480
<v Speaker 1>he said that. I was like, that's a good point, man,

0:32:46.520 --> 0:32:48.320
<v Speaker 1>because I hate there was there was like a picture

0:32:48.320 --> 0:32:51.080
<v Speaker 1>of silhouettes or I don't even know if it was

0:32:51.120 --> 0:32:52.800
<v Speaker 1>a picture like a piece of art or something, but

0:32:52.800 --> 0:32:55.040
<v Speaker 1>there was people and I knew them all from the back,

0:32:55.200 --> 0:32:59.000
<v Speaker 1>not even from the front, from the back, and uh.

0:32:59.120 --> 0:33:01.080
<v Speaker 1>I made me think a little. So I've always remembered that.

0:33:01.200 --> 0:33:02.840
<v Speaker 1>The first show I went to of yours, I was

0:33:02.880 --> 0:33:05.840
<v Speaker 1>at Marathon music work and at a bunch of it

0:33:05.920 --> 0:33:07.840
<v Speaker 1>was like during radio one of those radio seminars, and

0:33:07.840 --> 0:33:09.040
<v Speaker 1>I don't do a lot of that stuff, but I

0:33:09.080 --> 0:33:12.840
<v Speaker 1>was in talent for that maybe, so yeah, and a

0:33:12.880 --> 0:33:15.800
<v Speaker 1>couple of guys like, hey, you're in town, come come

0:33:15.840 --> 0:33:18.440
<v Speaker 1>to Morrigan Wallen show. And I was like, I'm just

0:33:18.480 --> 0:33:20.040
<v Speaker 1>gonna be honest with you. Yeah. I was like, I

0:33:20.080 --> 0:33:22.040
<v Speaker 1>was like, he gonna be there, and they were like

0:33:22.480 --> 0:33:24.400
<v Speaker 1>They're like yeah. I was like, I know like two

0:33:24.400 --> 0:33:27.040
<v Speaker 1>of the songs. Um, yeah, I'll go just because I

0:33:27.040 --> 0:33:28.600
<v Speaker 1>want to see you guys. And I go and it

0:33:28.720 --> 0:33:32.280
<v Speaker 1>is packed to the guilt and you freaking blew through.

0:33:32.400 --> 0:33:34.880
<v Speaker 1>And then I was like, oh, man, like I missed on.

0:33:35.040 --> 0:33:38.840
<v Speaker 1>I missed on knowing how great you were early. Well you,

0:33:39.080 --> 0:33:41.200
<v Speaker 1>I mean, but it doesn't matter. Yeah, I see a

0:33:41.240 --> 0:33:42.520
<v Speaker 1>lot of acts. That's what I meant to say. Whether

0:33:42.560 --> 0:33:44.760
<v Speaker 1>whether whether I'm great or not, you get you get

0:33:44.920 --> 0:33:47.600
<v Speaker 1>swamped with. But I still missed. I still missed, and

0:33:47.600 --> 0:33:49.280
<v Speaker 1>I'm usually pretty good, and I'm telling you that to

0:33:49.320 --> 0:33:51.040
<v Speaker 1>your face. Like I'm missed, and I was like, I

0:33:51.120 --> 0:33:53.120
<v Speaker 1>don't know about what were they gonna be thirty people there?

0:33:53.200 --> 0:33:55.360
<v Speaker 1>And I get there, I can't even move. They had

0:33:55.440 --> 0:33:57.760
<v Speaker 1>to put us in like a little cage to make

0:33:57.800 --> 0:34:01.320
<v Speaker 1>sure nobody did. Yeah, I remember it was phenomenal. So

0:34:03.040 --> 0:34:07.080
<v Speaker 1>and and you came and you played the st Judo

0:34:07.200 --> 0:34:09.279
<v Speaker 1>last year and I was just like, God, damn man,

0:34:09.320 --> 0:34:11.520
<v Speaker 1>this guy is so good. And then you know, so

0:34:11.600 --> 0:34:13.759
<v Speaker 1>your record. What's crazy about it? Is like it comes

0:34:13.800 --> 0:34:18.040
<v Speaker 1>out and does well, but it it's the biggest snow

0:34:18.280 --> 0:34:21.840
<v Speaker 1>slow building snowball I've ever seen. It's wild. It was

0:34:21.920 --> 0:34:24.200
<v Speaker 1>like I can't even remember. It was like a hundred

0:34:24.200 --> 0:34:26.279
<v Speaker 1>in something weeks after that it finally made it to

0:34:26.360 --> 0:34:28.239
<v Speaker 1>number one on like on Billboard for like it was

0:34:28.280 --> 0:34:30.440
<v Speaker 1>like a hundred seventeen weeks or something wild like it.

0:34:30.719 --> 0:34:34.520
<v Speaker 1>Are you feeling it now where it's like, I know

0:34:34.520 --> 0:34:35.840
<v Speaker 1>you're not gonna use the word, but just for the

0:34:35.840 --> 0:34:37.919
<v Speaker 1>fort take of conversation, are you feeling it now where

0:34:37.920 --> 0:34:40.160
<v Speaker 1>you kind of like I can actually feel some of

0:34:40.200 --> 0:34:44.200
<v Speaker 1>the superstardom Or did it hit you like this or

0:34:44.280 --> 0:34:48.759
<v Speaker 1>was it kind of like slow? I think it hit

0:34:48.800 --> 0:34:51.800
<v Speaker 1>me in Alabama about six weeks ago. Well, what's funny

0:34:51.800 --> 0:34:54.520
<v Speaker 1>about that too, is like I have caubited you on TikTok,

0:34:54.520 --> 0:34:57.719
<v Speaker 1>and when you sing straight into TikTok, yeah, I think

0:34:57.760 --> 0:35:01.120
<v Speaker 1>it blows people's socks off because you're so freaking good,

0:35:01.560 --> 0:35:05.280
<v Speaker 1>and I don't think people expect force like a country

0:35:05.280 --> 0:35:08.439
<v Speaker 1>boy like yourself with a mullet to just sound so good.

0:35:09.000 --> 0:35:11.160
<v Speaker 1>Probably not. And then I would see this is way

0:35:11.200 --> 0:35:14.239
<v Speaker 1>before the Alabama stuff. I would see you were worshiped

0:35:14.239 --> 0:35:16.440
<v Speaker 1>on TikTok. There was just a culture of and I

0:35:16.480 --> 0:35:17.880
<v Speaker 1>would get them all and I'd be like, why am

0:35:17.880 --> 0:35:20.239
<v Speaker 1>I watching these girls? I'm talking about how much they

0:35:20.239 --> 0:35:23.160
<v Speaker 1>love Morgan waller Man, and I swiped away from him.

0:35:23.160 --> 0:35:24.960
<v Speaker 1>I didn't want to spend too much time watching I

0:35:25.000 --> 0:35:29.480
<v Speaker 1>don't even but yeah, well I kind of realized that

0:35:29.520 --> 0:35:33.040
<v Speaker 1>about TikTok once the Seven Summers thing happened, because I

0:35:33.080 --> 0:35:36.080
<v Speaker 1>didn't even really know what TikTok was whenever that whole

0:35:36.080 --> 0:35:39.319
<v Speaker 1>thing happened, because I Ja jake On had nominated me

0:35:39.360 --> 0:35:41.800
<v Speaker 1>for a demo challenge on Instagram, like remember when everybody's

0:35:41.800 --> 0:35:44.640
<v Speaker 1>doing those challenges at the beginning of quarantine, just to

0:35:44.719 --> 0:35:46.000
<v Speaker 1>keep you know, we thought it was gonna be a

0:35:46.040 --> 0:35:52.200
<v Speaker 1>little month or whatever. This will be fun. Eight months later, channel,

0:35:52.239 --> 0:35:56.480
<v Speaker 1>I haven't seen any challenges lately, have y'all every uh?

0:35:57.480 --> 0:35:59.840
<v Speaker 1>But you know, somebody I guess screen grabbed it and

0:36:00.200 --> 0:36:03.880
<v Speaker 1>put it on TikTok and somebody from my team I

0:36:03.920 --> 0:36:06.480
<v Speaker 1>can't remember feel set or tracker, but I said, hey,

0:36:06.520 --> 0:36:09.080
<v Speaker 1>have you seen what's going on with with tiktoking Like TikTok,

0:36:09.320 --> 0:36:12.480
<v Speaker 1>I really didn't even know what it was, and they said, yeah,

0:36:12.480 --> 0:36:15.080
<v Speaker 1>it's a new app and somebody's got on there. You know,

0:36:15.360 --> 0:36:18.360
<v Speaker 1>they've got seven summers are using that sound by a lot.

0:36:19.080 --> 0:36:21.640
<v Speaker 1>I was like, okay, that's interesting because I originally put

0:36:21.680 --> 0:36:23.920
<v Speaker 1>that sound bite out on my Instagram to gauge if

0:36:23.960 --> 0:36:25.520
<v Speaker 1>I even wanted to cut the song or not. I

0:36:25.560 --> 0:36:28.200
<v Speaker 1>didn't even know if I was gonna record it, and

0:36:28.320 --> 0:36:30.560
<v Speaker 1>um so I was like, all right, that's cool, you

0:36:30.600 --> 0:36:32.040
<v Speaker 1>know whatever. A couple of weeks ago, by the thing,

0:36:32.040 --> 0:36:33.960
<v Speaker 1>like dude, this thing is like really going off on there.

0:36:34.000 --> 0:36:35.680
<v Speaker 1>I'm like, well, don't you guys think we might need

0:36:35.680 --> 0:36:37.719
<v Speaker 1>to put it out then, you know if it's doing that.

0:36:38.200 --> 0:36:40.239
<v Speaker 1>So we went and recorded it and I think it

0:36:40.320 --> 0:36:42.160
<v Speaker 1>had like thirty million hits on there or something before

0:36:42.200 --> 0:36:46.160
<v Speaker 1>it every even came out. So I started like being like, man,

0:36:46.200 --> 0:36:48.000
<v Speaker 1>this could be a real tool we could use for

0:36:48.000 --> 0:36:51.000
<v Speaker 1>for music and trying to drive people to the new music. So,

0:36:51.160 --> 0:36:54.960
<v Speaker 1>um man, I just started you know, leaking a demo

0:36:55.040 --> 0:36:57.480
<v Speaker 1>on my Instagram ever so often, or you know, playing

0:36:57.520 --> 0:37:00.520
<v Speaker 1>a acoustic thing on my Instagram and didn't even have

0:37:00.520 --> 0:37:02.120
<v Speaker 1>to post it on TikTok. They would just do it,

0:37:02.840 --> 0:37:05.719
<v Speaker 1>and um just you know, just giving little pieces of

0:37:05.760 --> 0:37:08.120
<v Speaker 1>stuff and and and I did that without asking. You know,

0:37:08.160 --> 0:37:09.600
<v Speaker 1>the first couple of times, they're like, dude, what do

0:37:09.640 --> 0:37:11.319
<v Speaker 1>you do? What are you doing? But these songs out

0:37:11.360 --> 0:37:12.759
<v Speaker 1>and then they you know, they kind of were they

0:37:12.800 --> 0:37:14.560
<v Speaker 1>were like, well, they didn't get mad at me. Actually,

0:37:14.560 --> 0:37:17.040
<v Speaker 1>my team they're they're they're so good and understanding. They

0:37:17.080 --> 0:37:18.600
<v Speaker 1>didn't they didn't get mad. But there, you know, they

0:37:18.680 --> 0:37:20.640
<v Speaker 1>they're gonna ask or ask a questions what do you do?

0:37:21.080 --> 0:37:22.600
<v Speaker 1>But so I told them and they're like, all right,

0:37:22.600 --> 0:37:24.520
<v Speaker 1>that's cool, that's a good idea. So we just kept

0:37:24.560 --> 0:37:25.920
<v Speaker 1>you know, I've kind of just continued to do it

0:37:25.920 --> 0:37:28.000
<v Speaker 1>a little bit. And then somebody has like leak some

0:37:28.040 --> 0:37:29.319
<v Speaker 1>demos that I don't even know where they came from.

0:37:29.320 --> 0:37:30.800
<v Speaker 1>I don't even have it. I don't even have the demos.

0:37:30.800 --> 0:37:32.080
<v Speaker 1>I don't know where they even came from that are

0:37:32.120 --> 0:37:34.000
<v Speaker 1>on there. But uh, the ones that I lead can

0:37:34.000 --> 0:37:35.800
<v Speaker 1>put on my Instagram that we I like to do that.

0:37:35.800 --> 0:37:37.719
<v Speaker 1>I'd like to get people's hopes up for that, and

0:37:37.719 --> 0:37:40.320
<v Speaker 1>then you know, drop them soon after, hopefully on TikTok.

0:37:40.360 --> 0:37:43.600
<v Speaker 1>You're a lower case ge god for sure. And and

0:37:43.760 --> 0:37:46.719
<v Speaker 1>somehow I see all these girls just like guys. Get

0:37:46.719 --> 0:37:49.000
<v Speaker 1>over it, like I don't even want to see them anymore.

0:37:49.640 --> 0:37:52.080
<v Speaker 1>It's great, It's great. I love I love that how

0:37:52.120 --> 0:37:54.920
<v Speaker 1>your fan base was organically created and just because you

0:37:54.920 --> 0:37:56.640
<v Speaker 1>brought it up, and I'll only ask a few more questions.

0:37:57.040 --> 0:37:59.800
<v Speaker 1>It's like I'm enjoying. When the Alabama stuff happened, I

0:37:59.840 --> 0:38:02.360
<v Speaker 1>was like, guys, get off his jock, Like I didn't.

0:38:02.760 --> 0:38:06.359
<v Speaker 1>I understand the COVID stuff too, but I was like,

0:38:06.680 --> 0:38:10.560
<v Speaker 1>what do you want from this guy? He's seven years old.

0:38:11.560 --> 0:38:13.799
<v Speaker 1>People were just having fun. I know, I mean, I

0:38:13.880 --> 0:38:16.200
<v Speaker 1>get it, but I also I understand both sides of

0:38:16.200 --> 0:38:17.480
<v Speaker 1>it a little bit, you know, I know, I got

0:38:17.560 --> 0:38:19.160
<v Speaker 1>I know that I got young kids that look up

0:38:19.200 --> 0:38:20.640
<v Speaker 1>to me and all those kind of things too, So

0:38:21.000 --> 0:38:22.440
<v Speaker 1>I do want to be mindful of things. I'm not

0:38:22.440 --> 0:38:24.520
<v Speaker 1>gonna let people control the way I live my life,

0:38:24.640 --> 0:38:27.240
<v Speaker 1>but I do also want to be mindful. And honestly

0:38:27.280 --> 0:38:28.640
<v Speaker 1>I have I have a son now, and I don't

0:38:28.680 --> 0:38:30.520
<v Speaker 1>know that i'd be proud to show him those videos,

0:38:30.520 --> 0:38:32.359
<v Speaker 1>you know. I'm like, I gotta think about some things

0:38:32.360 --> 0:38:35.520
<v Speaker 1>a little bit differently, and honestly, I have. I have

0:38:35.640 --> 0:38:37.920
<v Speaker 1>been in you know, throughout this whole process, There's been

0:38:37.960 --> 0:38:40.680
<v Speaker 1>times where for a while, I would just be like, man,

0:38:40.680 --> 0:38:42.799
<v Speaker 1>I'm really I'm kind of like lonely, and I don't

0:38:42.800 --> 0:38:45.319
<v Speaker 1>know if I even like this, and and then you know,

0:38:45.400 --> 0:38:47.439
<v Speaker 1>there's and then there's another high and you're like, oh yeah,

0:38:47.440 --> 0:38:48.560
<v Speaker 1>I love this, you know, and it just kind of

0:38:48.560 --> 0:38:50.880
<v Speaker 1>goes goes through phases, and I kind of just have

0:38:51.040 --> 0:38:52.520
<v Speaker 1>been living like that, you know, and it's like, I

0:38:52.560 --> 0:38:55.160
<v Speaker 1>don't know, can I not maybe do something to come

0:38:55.200 --> 0:38:56.880
<v Speaker 1>bat that maybe you don't have to be so moody,

0:38:57.120 --> 0:38:59.880
<v Speaker 1>you know. So it was almost a good thing for me,

0:39:00.360 --> 0:39:02.839
<v Speaker 1>you know. It kind of forced me away and just

0:39:02.880 --> 0:39:04.920
<v Speaker 1>to kind of reflect and look at myself and kind

0:39:04.920 --> 0:39:06.560
<v Speaker 1>of get to know myself again. And it was good

0:39:06.560 --> 0:39:09.800
<v Speaker 1>for me. So I took like a while, like almost

0:39:09.800 --> 0:39:11.239
<v Speaker 1>two weeks, and just turned my phone off and just

0:39:11.239 --> 0:39:13.080
<v Speaker 1>didn't didn't even look at it, you know, drove on

0:39:13.080 --> 0:39:15.399
<v Speaker 1>the track here and things like that and just clear

0:39:15.520 --> 0:39:18.080
<v Speaker 1>my head. And uh, that was it was really really

0:39:18.080 --> 0:39:20.120
<v Speaker 1>good for me. So I don't I don't really love

0:39:20.120 --> 0:39:23.760
<v Speaker 1>the circumstances that led to that, but I'm thankful for

0:39:23.760 --> 0:39:25.600
<v Speaker 1>for where it led me. And my only point was

0:39:26.080 --> 0:39:28.120
<v Speaker 1>you were living your life. You're gonna have to You're

0:39:28.120 --> 0:39:30.680
<v Speaker 1>gonna have to learn somehow what you like, what you

0:39:30.719 --> 0:39:33.279
<v Speaker 1>don't like. And I was just like, let's let the guy.

0:39:33.360 --> 0:39:35.680
<v Speaker 1>You weren't doing anything illegal, like, let the guy live

0:39:35.680 --> 0:39:38.840
<v Speaker 1>his life. But I was vocally pro you live in

0:39:38.880 --> 0:39:42.080
<v Speaker 1>your life. I appreciate that man. So you know, I

0:39:42.120 --> 0:39:45.800
<v Speaker 1>had a very similar situation. I'm just now getting married

0:39:45.800 --> 0:39:48.000
<v Speaker 1>in April. I've never been married, how many kids, But

0:39:48.040 --> 0:39:50.840
<v Speaker 1>I was struggling with being single. And Tyler and Florida

0:39:50.840 --> 0:39:53.080
<v Speaker 1>Georgia Lyne t pulled me in to coffee shop. Was like, dude,

0:39:53.520 --> 0:39:56.000
<v Speaker 1>you're kind of spiraling. It was a different spiral. My

0:39:56.040 --> 0:39:59.560
<v Speaker 1>spiral was straight loneliness, and I just could not. I

0:39:59.640 --> 0:40:02.600
<v Speaker 1>was like, I my thing was a ratio of loneliness

0:40:02.640 --> 0:40:05.000
<v Speaker 1>to happiness. That's where I was. And I would have

0:40:05.040 --> 0:40:08.399
<v Speaker 1>some hit and I'd feel great, but then because I'd

0:40:08.400 --> 0:40:09.839
<v Speaker 1>be I'd do a stand up show and I feel

0:40:09.840 --> 0:40:11.160
<v Speaker 1>so loved on stage, but then you go back to

0:40:11.160 --> 0:40:13.600
<v Speaker 1>your hotel room and you're just like, well, it just sucks.

0:40:13.640 --> 0:40:17.719
<v Speaker 1>It's so easy to base your feelings off of what

0:40:17.760 --> 0:40:20.280
<v Speaker 1>other people think, because that's what the that's my job.

0:40:20.440 --> 0:40:22.439
<v Speaker 1>You know. It's like, I pour my heart and soul

0:40:22.480 --> 0:40:24.480
<v Speaker 1>into this. I really want these people to like it.

0:40:24.719 --> 0:40:26.480
<v Speaker 1>And damn they do like it. You know, they do

0:40:26.600 --> 0:40:29.719
<v Speaker 1>like me. That's awesome. And then but you start chasing that,

0:40:29.760 --> 0:40:31.719
<v Speaker 1>you know, that's what that's when you start wanting that

0:40:31.760 --> 0:40:33.799
<v Speaker 1>feeling it all the time and more and more. Yeah,

0:40:33.840 --> 0:40:36.120
<v Speaker 1>it's like it's almost like a drug. Just keep on,

0:40:36.360 --> 0:40:37.839
<v Speaker 1>you know, all that feels good. I like it when

0:40:37.840 --> 0:40:40.880
<v Speaker 1>people like me. I mean, who don't. And I've always

0:40:40.920 --> 0:40:42.560
<v Speaker 1>been the type of guy I really want to make

0:40:42.600 --> 0:40:44.640
<v Speaker 1>everyone around me have a good time and feel good.

0:40:44.920 --> 0:40:47.160
<v Speaker 1>That's like I love that. I don't. I want people

0:40:47.200 --> 0:40:49.839
<v Speaker 1>to to love me. I just always have and um

0:40:49.880 --> 0:40:51.759
<v Speaker 1>so it's it's kind of like it's it's a catch

0:40:51.760 --> 0:40:53.719
<v Speaker 1>twenty two. You know, it's like, you're gonna go back

0:40:53.760 --> 0:40:56.799
<v Speaker 1>and do SNL. Do they think you'll They originally told

0:40:56.800 --> 0:40:58.880
<v Speaker 1>me that they were gonna invite me back. If they do,

0:40:59.120 --> 0:41:03.560
<v Speaker 1>I'll go do it. Yeah. I hate the situation that

0:41:03.680 --> 0:41:07.160
<v Speaker 1>happened for you, but I think if I'm standing back

0:41:07.200 --> 0:41:10.080
<v Speaker 1>ten feet for your career one, I think you learned

0:41:10.080 --> 0:41:12.640
<v Speaker 1>a lot from it. But too, it was great. I

0:41:12.640 --> 0:41:14.440
<v Speaker 1>saw you pop up on the E news feed. You

0:41:14.560 --> 0:41:17.239
<v Speaker 1>crossed over into the news because of this. People were

0:41:17.239 --> 0:41:19.359
<v Speaker 1>sending me like little screenshots whatever, like we've never heard

0:41:19.400 --> 0:41:22.719
<v Speaker 1>of this guy before. I'm like, well, that's good. You know,

0:41:22.719 --> 0:41:24.880
<v Speaker 1>I wouldn't want you to go through it again. However,

0:41:24.960 --> 0:41:27.560
<v Speaker 1>it takes, it takes some deep valleys to to to

0:41:27.680 --> 0:41:30.400
<v Speaker 1>understand how hard it is to climb the tall mountains.

0:41:31.480 --> 0:41:33.120
<v Speaker 1>And it's not even you know, it's not even gonna

0:41:33.120 --> 0:41:34.560
<v Speaker 1>be the lowest. We're gonna go through so many highs

0:41:34.560 --> 0:41:37.440
<v Speaker 1>and lows. But I'm proud of you, man, Thank you.

0:41:37.560 --> 0:41:40.920
<v Speaker 1>I really appreciate that. I'm proud. I'm just I'm just

0:41:41.000 --> 0:41:42.960
<v Speaker 1>such a big fan too. And I'm not someone who

0:41:42.960 --> 0:41:45.399
<v Speaker 1>claims to be there from the start, you know, I'm like, hey,

0:41:45.719 --> 0:41:47.840
<v Speaker 1>what the heck is this guy doing. I don't I

0:41:47.920 --> 0:41:49.799
<v Speaker 1>was the artist fun to convince. I can't even say

0:41:49.840 --> 0:41:51.640
<v Speaker 1>I blame you, man. I came out, I came out

0:41:51.640 --> 0:41:54.000
<v Speaker 1>of the gate with songs that weren't even my personal favorite.

0:41:54.000 --> 0:41:58.520
<v Speaker 1>So you know, I understand chasing you, just still my favorite?

0:41:59.120 --> 0:42:02.320
<v Speaker 1>Uh seven some or The weird thing about Seven Summers

0:42:02.520 --> 0:42:05.239
<v Speaker 1>and more than my Hometown is they kind of are

0:42:05.320 --> 0:42:07.719
<v Speaker 1>running alongside each other, which is rare. They're both on

0:42:07.800 --> 0:42:10.680
<v Speaker 1>top thirty of the chart. I think Hometown is almost

0:42:10.719 --> 0:42:12.839
<v Speaker 1>it's in top three right now. Maybe I believe top three.

0:42:12.880 --> 0:42:14.560
<v Speaker 1>I think they go what is today the fifth They

0:42:14.560 --> 0:42:16.000
<v Speaker 1>told me they're to go on for number one on

0:42:16.120 --> 0:42:18.520
<v Speaker 1>starting pushing spins on the fift So and you already

0:42:18.520 --> 0:42:22.239
<v Speaker 1>have a song it's number or something. Yeah, yeah, dude,

0:42:22.239 --> 0:42:24.640
<v Speaker 1>it's it's wild and and you know, like we were

0:42:24.640 --> 0:42:26.560
<v Speaker 1>talking about the TikTok thing earlier, I knew I had

0:42:26.600 --> 0:42:28.800
<v Speaker 1>a good feeling in that Seven Summers would come out

0:42:28.880 --> 0:42:31.040
<v Speaker 1>out of the gate, you know, pretty strong, definitely not

0:42:31.120 --> 0:42:33.040
<v Speaker 1>as strong as it did. Had no idea it was

0:42:33.040 --> 0:42:34.920
<v Speaker 1>gonna do any of that stuff. I would have worried

0:42:34.920 --> 0:42:37.600
<v Speaker 1>that it was gonna take spins off of I did

0:42:37.600 --> 0:42:39.399
<v Speaker 1>have that worry. I did have that worry, but like

0:42:40.160 --> 0:42:43.080
<v Speaker 1>we didn't even we didn't even plan on putting that

0:42:43.120 --> 0:42:45.200
<v Speaker 1>out as a single. It was almost forced upon us,

0:42:45.239 --> 0:42:47.880
<v Speaker 1>like people were just playing it. So we're like, well,

0:42:47.880 --> 0:42:49.520
<v Speaker 1>if these people are plunting their point, and maybe we

0:42:49.560 --> 0:42:52.279
<v Speaker 1>just ought to make it as single and my I

0:42:52.320 --> 0:42:55.359
<v Speaker 1>mean my label, and I you know, I asked him

0:42:55.360 --> 0:42:56.799
<v Speaker 1>every week. I'm like, yeo, I'm mad at me. Yet

0:42:56.800 --> 0:42:58.360
<v Speaker 1>you know you're having to work two singles. I know

0:42:58.400 --> 0:43:01.000
<v Speaker 1>that's gotta be a pain, but there you obviously, I

0:43:01.000 --> 0:43:03.319
<v Speaker 1>think they're pretty happy about it too, and they work

0:43:03.360 --> 0:43:05.480
<v Speaker 1>really hard and they're doing a good job. All right, Well,

0:43:05.760 --> 0:43:07.319
<v Speaker 1>I'm done with you, but are you sure you don't

0:43:07.320 --> 0:43:09.320
<v Speaker 1>mind walking over the house? Mind? We can, I want to.

0:43:09.320 --> 0:43:11.000
<v Speaker 1>We'll play it on this It'll be like thirty seconds.

0:43:11.080 --> 0:43:12.839
<v Speaker 1>I think people would be free playing. I ain't playing

0:43:12.840 --> 0:43:15.600
<v Speaker 1>the piano. About a month. We'll try, all right, Morgan

0:43:15.640 --> 0:43:18.120
<v Speaker 1>walland we're gonna go. But the next thing you hear

0:43:18.320 --> 0:43:20.080
<v Speaker 1>is us walking over to the house and doing it

0:43:20.080 --> 0:43:57.200
<v Speaker 1>over there by that earlier. That's it. That's it. And

0:43:57.280 --> 0:43:59.239
<v Speaker 1>at number one, I'll tell you I have a guy

0:43:59.280 --> 0:44:01.200
<v Speaker 1>that comes in works on my yard a little bit.

0:44:01.800 --> 0:44:06.640
<v Speaker 1>If I haven't any issues, but like there's like sprinklers

0:44:06.640 --> 0:44:08.919
<v Speaker 1>in the yard and stuff, he'll come fix them. And

0:44:09.000 --> 0:44:10.200
<v Speaker 1>I was out there the day and he goes, hey,

0:44:10.320 --> 0:44:11.799
<v Speaker 1>is it true? I was like, what goes with Luke

0:44:11.800 --> 0:44:15.520
<v Speaker 1>Combs over here? I was like, yeah, he goes Dang.

0:44:15.520 --> 0:44:17.640
<v Speaker 1>I wish I would have been here that day. I

0:44:17.680 --> 0:44:19.640
<v Speaker 1>was like, I know, he's a good guy. Here is

0:44:19.760 --> 0:44:22.480
<v Speaker 1>number one. It is Luke Combs. As you're a kid,

0:44:23.080 --> 0:44:25.040
<v Speaker 1>what is that you're singing? Do you have an eight

0:44:25.120 --> 0:44:27.000
<v Speaker 1>year old wrath? Or did when it? Like? You know,

0:44:27.880 --> 0:44:30.400
<v Speaker 1>I was, I was. I had a really high voice

0:44:30.440 --> 0:44:31.799
<v Speaker 1>when I was little, so I was, I mean I

0:44:31.840 --> 0:44:35.400
<v Speaker 1>was singing Vince Gill, you know, I mean killing that stuff. Uh.

0:44:35.440 --> 0:44:37.760
<v Speaker 1>And then I just got in I always liked singing.

0:44:37.760 --> 0:44:42.000
<v Speaker 1>I always getting trouble in class for humming or you know,

0:44:42.120 --> 0:44:46.839
<v Speaker 1>talking or I was just constantly making noise. Uh. And

0:44:46.880 --> 0:44:48.720
<v Speaker 1>then and then I found a you know, a channel

0:44:48.719 --> 0:44:52.240
<v Speaker 1>for that through chorus class. And like the sixth grade,

0:44:52.239 --> 0:44:55.000
<v Speaker 1>they make us, they made us take every elective in

0:44:55.040 --> 0:44:57.759
<v Speaker 1>the sixth grade. So he took like art and home

0:44:57.840 --> 0:45:02.480
<v Speaker 1>Mack and Jim and and and chorus and band, and

0:45:02.520 --> 0:45:05.640
<v Speaker 1>you took all of those classes. Uh. And then so

0:45:05.719 --> 0:45:08.040
<v Speaker 1>when I went to pick my electives for the next year,

0:45:08.520 --> 0:45:12.240
<v Speaker 1>I picked up my electives were always jim and chorus class.

0:45:12.360 --> 0:45:14.319
<v Speaker 1>That was it. When you started singing? Was it duck

0:45:14.360 --> 0:45:18.160
<v Speaker 1>to water for you? It was, but I didn't know

0:45:18.360 --> 0:45:20.319
<v Speaker 1>it at the time. It was just kind of like

0:45:21.040 --> 0:45:23.319
<v Speaker 1>I just like doing it. But I didn't think. I

0:45:23.360 --> 0:45:27.080
<v Speaker 1>thought it was just you don't understand that. There's I

0:45:27.160 --> 0:45:29.759
<v Speaker 1>just never thought of doing something like this, you know.

0:45:29.800 --> 0:45:31.359
<v Speaker 1>It wasn't like I was the kid that was like,

0:45:31.680 --> 0:45:34.560
<v Speaker 1>I'm gonna be Garth Brooks, I'm gonna do this or that.

0:45:35.120 --> 0:45:38.360
<v Speaker 1>I never had that intention in mind at a young age.

0:45:38.719 --> 0:45:40.840
<v Speaker 1>And I know a lot of people who do you know,

0:45:40.880 --> 0:45:43.000
<v Speaker 1>they heard a Tricia Garwood song and went, I'm gonna

0:45:43.000 --> 0:45:45.440
<v Speaker 1>be Tricia Earwood. That's what I want to do. I

0:45:45.520 --> 0:45:47.759
<v Speaker 1>just never thought of that as an option. I was

0:45:47.800 --> 0:45:50.040
<v Speaker 1>playing sports. I was horrible at sports, but I was

0:45:50.080 --> 0:45:52.560
<v Speaker 1>playing sports. I like doing that, and I was just

0:45:52.640 --> 0:45:56.640
<v Speaker 1>singing because it was something to do that I liked

0:45:56.680 --> 0:45:59.080
<v Speaker 1>to do. You know. I was just, I mean, at

0:45:59.120 --> 0:46:02.680
<v Speaker 1>that point in time, truly just living my life. You know.

0:46:02.680 --> 0:46:06.400
<v Speaker 1>I wasn't playing for the future at that time, and um,

0:46:06.480 --> 0:46:09.719
<v Speaker 1>I didn't really know I was any good until like

0:46:09.840 --> 0:46:12.840
<v Speaker 1>ninth grade, probably until I went to high school and

0:46:12.880 --> 0:46:16.920
<v Speaker 1>my course teacher was like, hey, you're pretty good, you know.

0:46:17.160 --> 0:46:19.880
<v Speaker 1>And I was like, cool, that's good because I like

0:46:20.200 --> 0:46:21.799
<v Speaker 1>I like doing it, so it's cool that I'm good

0:46:21.800 --> 0:46:23.600
<v Speaker 1>at it, you know, And then I sang. I was

0:46:23.640 --> 0:46:25.719
<v Speaker 1>in course class every day of high school from ninth

0:46:25.719 --> 0:46:30.239
<v Speaker 1>grade to the time I graduated. Play football horribly. I

0:46:30.360 --> 0:46:33.840
<v Speaker 1>was horrible, really, And what position do you play? Defensive tackle?

0:46:34.400 --> 0:46:40.320
<v Speaker 1>Did you like hitting? Loved hitting? Um? I didn't have Uh.

0:46:40.400 --> 0:46:45.440
<v Speaker 1>I didn't really have the quickness, per se or the aggression.

0:46:46.360 --> 0:46:50.279
<v Speaker 1>I wasn't like an aggressive guys, but I loved hitting people.

0:46:50.360 --> 0:46:52.960
<v Speaker 1>You weren't singing Vince gil Like. I wasn't singing Vince

0:46:53.040 --> 0:46:56.920
<v Speaker 1>Gill in high school. No, I wasn't. Um I always

0:46:56.960 --> 0:46:59.120
<v Speaker 1>you know. It's funny. I I played rugby in college,

0:46:59.200 --> 0:47:01.839
<v Speaker 1>which I was good at and I did enjoy a lot,

0:47:02.360 --> 0:47:04.160
<v Speaker 1>But I loved I always wanted to I was like

0:47:04.200 --> 0:47:08.920
<v Speaker 1>a running back stuck in a offensive guards body, you

0:47:08.960 --> 0:47:10.440
<v Speaker 1>know what I mean. Like I always wanted to have

0:47:10.560 --> 0:47:12.360
<v Speaker 1>the ball and run with the ball, but that was

0:47:12.400 --> 0:47:15.520
<v Speaker 1>never an option. And the and my my high school

0:47:15.520 --> 0:47:17.280
<v Speaker 1>team we ran we were one of the first teams

0:47:17.280 --> 0:47:20.319
<v Speaker 1>to run the spread. And so obviously there's a high

0:47:20.320 --> 0:47:22.400
<v Speaker 1>school football team. Yeah, you ran the spread, and for

0:47:22.520 --> 0:47:27.399
<v Speaker 1>you in two thousand and probably five four or five.

0:47:27.520 --> 0:47:28.920
<v Speaker 1>And you gotta you gotta be able to move if

0:47:28.920 --> 0:47:33.120
<v Speaker 1>you're running the spread, no doubt, even the line, you

0:47:33.160 --> 0:47:35.640
<v Speaker 1>gotta get up and go. And so I wasn't in

0:47:35.840 --> 0:47:39.080
<v Speaker 1>like in shape enough to be you know, I don't

0:47:39.080 --> 0:47:43.959
<v Speaker 1>have the endurance two to run with the offense because

0:47:43.960 --> 0:47:47.160
<v Speaker 1>we had we had two running backs that ran sub

0:47:47.239 --> 0:47:51.840
<v Speaker 1>for three forties. I mean they were just lightning fast um,

0:47:51.920 --> 0:47:55.480
<v Speaker 1>and so we were up and down the field a lot,

0:47:55.600 --> 0:47:57.920
<v Speaker 1>I mean, thirty forty yard play. It was not something

0:47:57.960 --> 0:48:01.600
<v Speaker 1>that was out of the ordinary for us. And so yeah,

0:48:01.600 --> 0:48:03.719
<v Speaker 1>I was just not cut out for that either. You know,

0:48:03.719 --> 0:48:05.640
<v Speaker 1>in a lot of teams we were playing, we're playing

0:48:05.680 --> 0:48:08.799
<v Speaker 1>we're you know, we're running the wing tea and like

0:48:08.880 --> 0:48:13.040
<v Speaker 1>the super antiquated offenses and stuff like that. So yeah,

0:48:13.080 --> 0:48:15.000
<v Speaker 1>I was just I was just not cut out for

0:48:15.160 --> 0:48:20.120
<v Speaker 1>that particular thing. Now, looking back in time, I would

0:48:20.120 --> 0:48:22.160
<v Speaker 1>have I would have loved to play offensive line. It's

0:48:22.160 --> 0:48:26.400
<v Speaker 1>one of my favorite most intriguing positions now and I

0:48:26.440 --> 0:48:28.720
<v Speaker 1>think I would have been very good at that. Actually,

0:48:29.200 --> 0:48:31.959
<v Speaker 1>Um but I was just I was just not because

0:48:32.000 --> 0:48:34.680
<v Speaker 1>I didn't play when I was little. I started playing

0:48:34.680 --> 0:48:37.279
<v Speaker 1>in high school. So all of my all of my

0:48:37.320 --> 0:48:40.040
<v Speaker 1>teammates have been playing since they were seven or eight

0:48:40.080 --> 0:48:42.200
<v Speaker 1>years old, you know. So by the time I was

0:48:42.239 --> 0:48:44.799
<v Speaker 1>a senior, it was like there are guys who had

0:48:44.840 --> 0:48:48.160
<v Speaker 1>been playing football for fourteen or fifteen years and I

0:48:48.200 --> 0:48:50.920
<v Speaker 1>had only been playing for three. So I was way

0:48:50.960 --> 0:48:55.520
<v Speaker 1>behind the curve of you know, strength training and learning

0:48:55.560 --> 0:48:57.600
<v Speaker 1>the game. And I just wanted to hit people. That

0:48:57.680 --> 0:49:01.480
<v Speaker 1>was it. You go to Appalachian State and as you

0:49:01.560 --> 0:49:03.480
<v Speaker 1>leave high school and you go to college. In your

0:49:03.520 --> 0:49:05.800
<v Speaker 1>mind at that point, why are you going to college?

0:49:07.280 --> 0:49:09.960
<v Speaker 1>I just thought that was what you did because I

0:49:09.960 --> 0:49:14.279
<v Speaker 1>didn't want to go to work, I think, you know. Um,

0:49:14.320 --> 0:49:17.000
<v Speaker 1>but I had went to actually went to a chorus

0:49:17.160 --> 0:49:22.919
<v Speaker 1>camp at app in probably maybe eighth grade or ninth

0:49:22.920 --> 0:49:24.759
<v Speaker 1>grade or something like that. For the summer. I was

0:49:24.800 --> 0:49:27.239
<v Speaker 1>like one of those two weeks you go and stay

0:49:27.239 --> 0:49:29.080
<v Speaker 1>in the dorms and there's kids from all the different

0:49:29.080 --> 0:49:31.759
<v Speaker 1>schools and everything, and I just fell in love with

0:49:31.840 --> 0:49:34.680
<v Speaker 1>that place because I grew up in the mountains already,

0:49:34.719 --> 0:49:36.839
<v Speaker 1>but that was way I mean, that's way in them

0:49:36.960 --> 0:49:38.759
<v Speaker 1>as much in the mountains as you can be in

0:49:38.800 --> 0:49:42.640
<v Speaker 1>North Carolina. Um kind of nestled in this little valley thing.

0:49:42.719 --> 0:49:45.359
<v Speaker 1>And I just fell in love with the campus and

0:49:45.440 --> 0:49:49.120
<v Speaker 1>like the and the weather, you know, I like the cold,

0:49:49.280 --> 0:49:52.360
<v Speaker 1>you know, I'm fine with being cold, and it's very

0:49:52.360 --> 0:49:55.000
<v Speaker 1>cold and it snows a lot there, and I just

0:49:55.320 --> 0:49:59.720
<v Speaker 1>I absolutely was enamored with that place. And ever since

0:49:59.840 --> 0:50:01.359
<v Speaker 1>I went to that camp, I was like, that's where

0:50:01.360 --> 0:50:04.120
<v Speaker 1>I'm gonna go to college. I'm gonna go to school there.

0:50:04.160 --> 0:50:07.600
<v Speaker 1>And I was not a very good student in high school.

0:50:08.160 --> 0:50:10.879
<v Speaker 1>I've always been interested in in learning things. I really

0:50:10.960 --> 0:50:14.120
<v Speaker 1>enjoy that. I just was never interested in learning things

0:50:14.160 --> 0:50:17.319
<v Speaker 1>that people wanted me to learn. So what were you

0:50:17.360 --> 0:50:20.120
<v Speaker 1>doing in college for the most part, if obviously you're

0:50:20.120 --> 0:50:21.920
<v Speaker 1>getting too because you didn't leave until and you left

0:50:21.960 --> 0:50:24.840
<v Speaker 1>right before you graduated, which so then look at us,

0:50:24.880 --> 0:50:26.200
<v Speaker 1>But what were you doing in school? Were you just

0:50:26.480 --> 0:50:29.120
<v Speaker 1>keeping the grades up so you could keep singing, or

0:50:29.200 --> 0:50:32.040
<v Speaker 1>we're like, why what was your motivating? It was like

0:50:33.600 --> 0:50:37.640
<v Speaker 1>it was college was a big time for me of like, okay,

0:50:38.080 --> 0:50:40.720
<v Speaker 1>how do you be three hundred pounds and get a girlfriend?

0:50:41.800 --> 0:50:43.480
<v Speaker 1>That was what I spent most of my time trying

0:50:43.480 --> 0:50:46.000
<v Speaker 1>to figure out. Did you have girls in college? No? No,

0:50:46.239 --> 0:50:49.880
<v Speaker 1>I was definitely not a ladies man. Uh you know,

0:50:50.040 --> 0:50:52.799
<v Speaker 1>not not because I didn't want to be. But in

0:50:52.920 --> 0:50:57.000
<v Speaker 1>high school you don't exactly get judged on your great personality.

0:50:57.760 --> 0:51:00.680
<v Speaker 1>Um So those were interesting times for me. But I

0:51:00.960 --> 0:51:02.960
<v Speaker 1>mean that was what I did in college. Men. I

0:51:03.040 --> 0:51:05.640
<v Speaker 1>hung out, I drank with my buddies. I didn't go

0:51:05.680 --> 0:51:08.320
<v Speaker 1>to class a lot. I played rugby. I sang in

0:51:08.360 --> 0:51:10.719
<v Speaker 1>an acapella group my my first year year and a

0:51:10.760 --> 0:51:15.280
<v Speaker 1>half of school. Um I pled I pledged a fraternity

0:51:15.360 --> 0:51:17.839
<v Speaker 1>and ended up quitting doing that before I became an

0:51:17.800 --> 0:51:21.719
<v Speaker 1>initiative member. Um I did. I did a bunch of stuff. Man,

0:51:21.719 --> 0:51:24.759
<v Speaker 1>I just tried a bunch of stuff, you know. And

0:51:24.840 --> 0:51:28.680
<v Speaker 1>I think that's what I'm thankful for in the college experience,

0:51:28.719 --> 0:51:31.839
<v Speaker 1>because that's where I found out that this is what

0:51:31.840 --> 0:51:33.680
<v Speaker 1>I was supposed to be doing. And you left early

0:51:33.960 --> 0:51:36.680
<v Speaker 1>like you were a closer graduating right. Well, I was

0:51:36.719 --> 0:51:40.080
<v Speaker 1>there for five years, so I didn't leave early, but

0:51:40.239 --> 0:51:43.680
<v Speaker 1>you left I stayed late and I didn't graduate. Yeah

0:51:44.200 --> 0:51:48.280
<v Speaker 1>how many hours you think you need? Not even semester

0:51:48.320 --> 0:51:50.399
<v Speaker 1>and a half yea, not even year. But I could

0:51:50.400 --> 0:51:53.239
<v Speaker 1>have done like a summer and a semester. But the

0:51:53.320 --> 0:51:59.479
<v Speaker 1>problem was I always hated math and I always hated science. Um,

0:51:59.520 --> 0:52:02.239
<v Speaker 1>I'm not good at not good at science, not good

0:52:02.280 --> 0:52:06.239
<v Speaker 1>at math. Um, and so I never What happened was

0:52:06.280 --> 0:52:08.760
<v Speaker 1>I I loved I was a major, and I changed

0:52:08.800 --> 0:52:10.960
<v Speaker 1>my major from business. I started out at business and

0:52:11.000 --> 0:52:12.480
<v Speaker 1>I was like, wait, I hate math, Why am I

0:52:12.480 --> 0:52:14.919
<v Speaker 1>doing that? That's just something that I was like, Oh,

0:52:14.960 --> 0:52:18.000
<v Speaker 1>you could probably get a good job doing business things,

0:52:18.239 --> 0:52:20.560
<v Speaker 1>you know. So I tried that for like a year,

0:52:20.600 --> 0:52:23.440
<v Speaker 1>and then I switched my major to criminal justice because

0:52:23.480 --> 0:52:25.640
<v Speaker 1>do what incriminal justice? Near mind? I wanted to be

0:52:25.719 --> 0:52:28.200
<v Speaker 1>a homicide detective is what I wanted to do. Uh

0:52:28.360 --> 0:52:33.040
<v Speaker 1>still and very interested in that um, and so I

0:52:33.040 --> 0:52:36.040
<v Speaker 1>I went balls to the wall and in that major,

0:52:36.080 --> 0:52:38.200
<v Speaker 1>and I really enjoyed that. So I liked go into

0:52:38.400 --> 0:52:41.920
<v Speaker 1>my you know, forensic science class and my this and

0:52:41.960 --> 0:52:44.400
<v Speaker 1>this and this class. But the things that I the

0:52:44.440 --> 0:52:47.680
<v Speaker 1>twenty one hours I was short where all my math classes,

0:52:48.440 --> 0:52:52.800
<v Speaker 1>all my science classes, so like basic like your freshman

0:52:52.920 --> 0:52:56.000
<v Speaker 1>year stuff. Never took any of them. I never took

0:52:56.160 --> 0:52:59.879
<v Speaker 1>Stats one and stats too, and then I never took

0:53:00.480 --> 0:53:02.759
<v Speaker 1>chemistry or biology because I was like, this is just

0:53:03.320 --> 0:53:04.960
<v Speaker 1>I don't want to do any of this stuff, you know.

0:53:05.320 --> 0:53:08.160
<v Speaker 1>And so by the time I got to the end

0:53:08.200 --> 0:53:11.560
<v Speaker 1>of my major, I kind of ran into this huge

0:53:11.640 --> 0:53:15.400
<v Speaker 1>roadblock because I had two or three classes that I

0:53:15.440 --> 0:53:17.960
<v Speaker 1>needed for my major and they were like, well, you

0:53:18.000 --> 0:53:20.560
<v Speaker 1>can't take this class unless you have Stats one in

0:53:20.640 --> 0:53:23.680
<v Speaker 1>stats too, and you can't take them at the same time.

0:53:24.600 --> 0:53:27.520
<v Speaker 1>So that's at least a year of school to take

0:53:28.200 --> 0:53:30.520
<v Speaker 1>two classes. So I had to do Stats one Stats

0:53:30.520 --> 0:53:34.160
<v Speaker 1>to biology or Chemistry one in biology or chemistry too,

0:53:34.640 --> 0:53:37.640
<v Speaker 1>and those were both prerequisites, and then I would have

0:53:37.680 --> 0:53:39.760
<v Speaker 1>had to take the classes for the end of my major,

0:53:40.280 --> 0:53:41.960
<v Speaker 1>and then I would have had to do my internship

0:53:42.000 --> 0:53:44.080
<v Speaker 1>because I couldn't do my internship until I did the

0:53:44.080 --> 0:53:45.960
<v Speaker 1>classes for the end of my major. And you already

0:53:46.360 --> 0:53:49.080
<v Speaker 1>years and I had already done yeah, like four I was, yeah,

0:53:49.120 --> 0:53:50.719
<v Speaker 1>I've already done like four and a half years. So

0:53:50.760 --> 0:53:53.319
<v Speaker 1>I was like, I'm not staying here for another two

0:53:53.360 --> 0:53:55.560
<v Speaker 1>and a half years in school. At least I ended

0:53:55.600 --> 0:53:58.120
<v Speaker 1>up living in Boone until I was twenty four before

0:53:58.120 --> 0:54:00.719
<v Speaker 1>I moved to Nashville. Um, but I was just like, man,

0:54:00.880 --> 0:54:02.799
<v Speaker 1>I just I don't you know what that by that time,

0:54:02.800 --> 0:54:04.880
<v Speaker 1>I was already playing music. Were you going back and

0:54:04.960 --> 0:54:06.799
<v Speaker 1>the forth from Boone to Nashville or what did you

0:54:06.840 --> 0:54:08.279
<v Speaker 1>when you came to Nashville? Was it you came to

0:54:08.360 --> 0:54:13.080
<v Speaker 1>Nashville the first. I came to Nashville twice in in

0:54:13.120 --> 0:54:15.920
<v Speaker 1>those years, and that was two thousand and at the

0:54:16.040 --> 0:54:21.640
<v Speaker 1>end of two thousand and thirteen, and then the summer

0:54:21.680 --> 0:54:24.840
<v Speaker 1>of two thousand and fourteen the first time. Did you

0:54:24.840 --> 0:54:27.640
<v Speaker 1>know you wanted to stay? Yeah? Oh yeah, because I

0:54:27.680 --> 0:54:29.640
<v Speaker 1>had written a few songs, and so I came at

0:54:29.640 --> 0:54:33.840
<v Speaker 1>the end of and recorded those songs. And then I

0:54:33.960 --> 0:54:36.080
<v Speaker 1>met had you know, through the internet, had met a

0:54:36.120 --> 0:54:37.760
<v Speaker 1>couple of people. I was like, oh, I write songs

0:54:37.800 --> 0:54:39.920
<v Speaker 1>with these guys. And so I wrote a couple of

0:54:39.920 --> 0:54:42.479
<v Speaker 1>songs when I was there, and then I got back

0:54:42.520 --> 0:54:44.560
<v Speaker 1>and I was like, man, like, I gotta play another trip.

0:54:44.600 --> 0:54:47.360
<v Speaker 1>So I played another trip, wrote some more songs, and

0:54:47.400 --> 0:54:51.960
<v Speaker 1>then on that trip and probably aprilish May of two

0:54:52.000 --> 0:54:54.880
<v Speaker 1>thousand and fourteen is when I recorded she got the

0:54:54.880 --> 0:54:58.000
<v Speaker 1>best to me, can I get an outlaw and share

0:54:58.040 --> 0:55:01.279
<v Speaker 1>if you want to? And then at that time after that,

0:55:01.560 --> 0:55:04.600
<v Speaker 1>those came out in June, and I moved in September

0:55:04.719 --> 0:55:07.880
<v Speaker 1>of that year of two four. The tweet you posted

0:55:07.920 --> 0:55:10.000
<v Speaker 1>what you said. I think the topic was tell me

0:55:10.040 --> 0:55:13.360
<v Speaker 1>something about yourself that no one believe. And the just

0:55:13.640 --> 0:55:16.960
<v Speaker 1>of it was that you came to town and you

0:55:17.040 --> 0:55:19.000
<v Speaker 1>had some songs and people were like, hey, they weren't good,

0:55:19.960 --> 0:55:22.279
<v Speaker 1>and your old thing was don't let anyone let you

0:55:22.280 --> 0:55:25.400
<v Speaker 1>stop chasing your dreams. Yeah, those meetings where you were rejected,

0:55:25.680 --> 0:55:30.320
<v Speaker 1>are they vivid to you? The early meetings definitely? Um.

0:55:30.360 --> 0:55:34.720
<v Speaker 1>The one in the meeting in particular was with somebody.

0:55:34.760 --> 0:55:37.719
<v Speaker 1>It was, you know, they have like the artist like

0:55:37.760 --> 0:55:40.480
<v Speaker 1>writer reps at at like b and I. So I

0:55:40.480 --> 0:55:42.840
<v Speaker 1>had a friend that had a rep there and I

0:55:42.880 --> 0:55:45.480
<v Speaker 1>went in and I was like very excited because I

0:55:45.520 --> 0:55:48.279
<v Speaker 1>had just moved to Nashville at this time and I

0:55:48.280 --> 0:55:50.400
<v Speaker 1>didn't know anybody, you know, I knew a couple of

0:55:50.400 --> 0:55:53.439
<v Speaker 1>writing buddies and was going out and playing a few

0:55:53.440 --> 0:55:56.600
<v Speaker 1>writers rounds and writing songs every day. And because by

0:55:56.640 --> 0:55:58.560
<v Speaker 1>that time I was living off of those songs that

0:55:58.640 --> 0:56:03.040
<v Speaker 1>I had put out the previous year and I went

0:56:03.080 --> 0:56:05.120
<v Speaker 1>in and it was kind of like this this person

0:56:05.239 --> 0:56:07.759
<v Speaker 1>was like, we'll play me three songs. And I was like,

0:56:07.800 --> 0:56:10.520
<v Speaker 1>oh cool, Like this person is gonna be like I'm

0:56:10.520 --> 0:56:12.880
<v Speaker 1>gonna play these three songs and like they're gonna walk

0:56:12.960 --> 0:56:16.759
<v Speaker 1>me into the best publishing thing and they're gonna like

0:56:16.800 --> 0:56:19.200
<v Speaker 1>this guy is great, Like how could you not love

0:56:19.280 --> 0:56:22.040
<v Speaker 1>this guy? Give him a publishing deal? So I played

0:56:22.440 --> 0:56:26.520
<v Speaker 1>Hurricane When It Rains in One Number Away, which were

0:56:26.520 --> 0:56:30.000
<v Speaker 1>my first three number ones, and they were like, Okay,

0:56:30.080 --> 0:56:32.840
<v Speaker 1>here's the deal. You gotta get better a songwright, and

0:56:32.840 --> 0:56:35.560
<v Speaker 1>you gotta write better songs and you're never gonna be

0:56:35.640 --> 0:56:40.719
<v Speaker 1>an artist. So that's it. And I was like, and

0:56:40.760 --> 0:56:43.520
<v Speaker 1>I wasn't like mad. Do you know who said it? Yeah,

0:56:43.520 --> 0:56:45.239
<v Speaker 1>but I'm not gonna I'm not gonna say I would

0:56:45.239 --> 0:56:46.600
<v Speaker 1>never ask you to say it, but I'm just asking

0:56:46.600 --> 0:56:49.600
<v Speaker 1>if you know who's that? Oh? I know? Yeah? Have

0:56:49.760 --> 0:56:55.759
<v Speaker 1>you seen them since? Yeah? I've ran into them awkwardly

0:56:55.800 --> 0:56:57.879
<v Speaker 1>at actually the B and My Awards. Do you think

0:56:57.920 --> 0:56:59.920
<v Speaker 1>they remember telling you that or do you don't get

0:57:00.040 --> 0:57:02.040
<v Speaker 1>just someone that was coming through attorney to the system.

0:57:02.120 --> 0:57:04.080
<v Speaker 1>I don't think so at all. Which is fine, you

0:57:04.120 --> 0:57:06.000
<v Speaker 1>know I have I have nothing against that person, you

0:57:06.000 --> 0:57:08.319
<v Speaker 1>know what, because I get it. Man. I mean it's

0:57:08.440 --> 0:57:10.919
<v Speaker 1>it's like if you look at it, would I would,

0:57:10.960 --> 0:57:14.440
<v Speaker 1>I would equate it to at that level, you know,

0:57:14.480 --> 0:57:17.800
<v Speaker 1>because you're not even screened at all. At that level,

0:57:17.920 --> 0:57:20.120
<v Speaker 1>like any Tom Dick or Harry can walk in off

0:57:20.200 --> 0:57:22.160
<v Speaker 1>the street pretty much to be AM and get one

0:57:22.160 --> 0:57:25.880
<v Speaker 1>of those meetings. So I can't imagine the pressure of like, Okay, well,

0:57:25.880 --> 0:57:30.040
<v Speaker 1>I've got six kids that moved to town yesterday that

0:57:30.160 --> 0:57:32.280
<v Speaker 1>want to come in and they all think they're awesome,

0:57:33.160 --> 0:57:35.080
<v Speaker 1>and I've got to be able to figure out which

0:57:35.080 --> 0:57:36.960
<v Speaker 1>ones I think are good enough to go on to

0:57:37.040 --> 0:57:40.880
<v Speaker 1>the next thing. And so I wasn't mad about it

0:57:40.920 --> 0:57:43.720
<v Speaker 1>at all. I'm actually very thankful for that meeting because

0:57:43.800 --> 0:57:45.520
<v Speaker 1>I did go out and feel like I wrote some

0:57:45.560 --> 0:57:48.240
<v Speaker 1>of the best songs that I had ever written, because

0:57:48.280 --> 0:57:51.440
<v Speaker 1>I was like, man, I gotta I gotta write more

0:57:51.640 --> 0:57:54.320
<v Speaker 1>and and do better, Like I'm not even close to

0:57:54.880 --> 0:57:57.040
<v Speaker 1>as good as I need to be. And so I

0:57:57.160 --> 0:58:00.240
<v Speaker 1>just kept my head down and I went and a

0:58:00.240 --> 0:58:03.960
<v Speaker 1>ton of songs and and then there kind of the

0:58:03.960 --> 0:58:05.960
<v Speaker 1>rest is just kind of fell into place. I mean,

0:58:06.000 --> 0:58:08.680
<v Speaker 1>I know that's, you know, summarizing a big chain of events,

0:58:08.680 --> 0:58:10.880
<v Speaker 1>but that's kind of how it felt like at a

0:58:10.880 --> 0:58:12.400
<v Speaker 1>few minutes left her. I wanted to run a couple

0:58:12.360 --> 0:58:14.280
<v Speaker 1>of other things about you that I heard. First of all,

0:58:15.440 --> 0:58:18.200
<v Speaker 1>a lot of folks come in myself included that worked

0:58:18.200 --> 0:58:21.480
<v Speaker 1>retail because we kind of had to. You gotta pay

0:58:21.520 --> 0:58:25.400
<v Speaker 1>the bills somehow as you're chasing your creative endeavor. And

0:58:25.880 --> 0:58:28.960
<v Speaker 1>I worked at hobby Lobby. Mike who was in Michael

0:58:29.000 --> 0:58:32.520
<v Speaker 1>Hobby from Thousand Horses worked at the Buckle. You worked

0:58:32.560 --> 0:58:37.440
<v Speaker 1>at isod How did that go? I was not a

0:58:37.480 --> 0:58:41.440
<v Speaker 1>great fit at izod Um, but I had you know,

0:58:41.480 --> 0:58:43.160
<v Speaker 1>I had as much fun with it is you could

0:58:43.200 --> 0:58:47.600
<v Speaker 1>possibly have folding people's golf sweaters, you know. Um. It

0:58:47.640 --> 0:58:49.400
<v Speaker 1>was in an outlet mall, like one of those like

0:58:49.600 --> 0:58:51.720
<v Speaker 1>Tanger outlets or whatever they call it. They had one

0:58:51.720 --> 0:58:53.760
<v Speaker 1>in Blowing Rock, which is right down the road from Boone.

0:58:54.480 --> 0:58:57.400
<v Speaker 1>So it was I mean, it was pretty pretty miserable.

0:58:58.000 --> 0:59:00.720
<v Speaker 1>And how long did you do that? I probably worked

0:59:00.720 --> 0:59:04.200
<v Speaker 1>there for I mean close to a year probably, I

0:59:04.240 --> 0:59:08.360
<v Speaker 1>would think. And whenever you are walking past a table

0:59:08.400 --> 0:59:11.600
<v Speaker 1>of shirts that are messy, does it bother you and

0:59:11.640 --> 0:59:16.560
<v Speaker 1>will you refold a shirt? No chance, no chance. But

0:59:16.640 --> 0:59:18.560
<v Speaker 1>I'll tell you what I do. I do fold a

0:59:18.600 --> 0:59:21.560
<v Speaker 1>mean shirt, you know when I'm when I'm doing the

0:59:21.600 --> 0:59:23.720
<v Speaker 1>laundry at home, which I'm sure people are supposed to

0:59:23.760 --> 0:59:26.760
<v Speaker 1>do do laundry. Uh, my fiance does handle the brunt

0:59:26.880 --> 0:59:29.800
<v Speaker 1>of the laundry. Um, but I do. I do chip

0:59:29.840 --> 0:59:31.920
<v Speaker 1>in quite a bit and you know, help fold stuff.

0:59:32.000 --> 0:59:34.480
<v Speaker 1>And you know I'm not I'm not afraid to do laundry.

0:59:34.480 --> 0:59:36.240
<v Speaker 1>I I don't. I don't mind it at all. But

0:59:37.680 --> 0:59:43.440
<v Speaker 1>or I I if I wasn't in a committed relationship,

0:59:43.480 --> 0:59:46.680
<v Speaker 1>I would throw it on. Yeah, but I do separate

0:59:46.720 --> 0:59:48.800
<v Speaker 1>it now just because that's what. But now it's like

0:59:48.840 --> 0:59:51.600
<v Speaker 1>her stuff's in there, which is the thing. Like mine

0:59:51.600 --> 0:59:54.440
<v Speaker 1>are just old, like gross t shirts and jeans really,

0:59:54.880 --> 0:59:58.080
<v Speaker 1>so I'm not too worried about them like shrinking or like.

0:59:58.320 --> 1:00:02.200
<v Speaker 1>But now there's this whole like don't wash this thing

1:00:02.280 --> 1:00:06.479
<v Speaker 1>with that thing, and don't drive this thing. But it's

1:00:06.480 --> 1:00:09.600
<v Speaker 1>gotta be tumble dried, but don't put it in with

1:00:09.640 --> 1:00:12.280
<v Speaker 1>this thing that has to be high heat. And then

1:00:12.320 --> 1:00:15.560
<v Speaker 1>some stuff is like cold water and so it's I mean,

1:00:15.560 --> 1:00:18.560
<v Speaker 1>it gets pretty Matthey to me, you know, and we

1:00:18.680 --> 1:00:22.400
<v Speaker 1>know you don't like don't left left school because you

1:00:22.400 --> 1:00:24.200
<v Speaker 1>didn't even take a laundry That was like a year three.

1:00:24.320 --> 1:00:26.360
<v Speaker 1>That was the year three and I skipped laundry class,

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