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Speaker 1: It's part two of our Deep Dive with James Comer.

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Speaker 1: James Comer sat down with Center Ted Cruz and I

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Speaker 1: to talk about the whistleblowers, and now the media has

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Speaker 1: they're actually not even really whistle blowers. This is something

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Speaker 1: for example, said that the GOP investigating Hunter Biden probe,

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Speaker 1: they're doing it with what they described as quote so

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Speaker 1: called whistle blowers. So now they're saying even the whistleblowers,

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Speaker 1: the people that are career workers at the FBI, career

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Speaker 1: workers at the IRS, those that were Democrats that have

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Speaker 1: come forward as whistlers, are now saying they're not really

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Speaker 1: whistle blowers, they're quote so called whistleblowers. On Thursdays broadcasts

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Speaker 1: of NBC's Meet the Press Now to show they have

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Speaker 1: that's on MSNBC NBC News, Capitol Hill correspondent said that

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Speaker 1: the Republicans in Congress will use the new FBI one

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Speaker 1: zero two three form. It's been released on the Biden

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Speaker 1: family in Ukraine. It's been released by Senator Chuck Grassley

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Speaker 1: earlier in the day to quote bolster these investigations that

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Speaker 1: we saw them do earlier this week with irs so

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Speaker 1: called whistleblowers about Hunter Biden and how the tax investigation

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Speaker 1: to the President Joe Biden's son was handled. So now

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Speaker 1: NBC News is saying that they're actually just so called

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Speaker 1: that's it, just just so called whistleblowers.

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Speaker 2: Listen about what Chuck Grassley, the Senator from Iowa did

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Speaker 2: informant document related to Hunter Biden's business dealings that some

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Speaker 2: Republicans claim could implicate President Biden. Now explain, especially Ken,

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Speaker 2: what this document is about, and then catch us up

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Speaker 2: to speed on why it's so significant.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, this is pretty dense reading. And I'm sure that

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Speaker 3: you guys went through this immediately too, because this is

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Speaker 3: a document that we've really been waiting to see for

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Speaker 3: a while.

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Speaker 2: Here.

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Speaker 3: Now, the long fabled ten twenty three form that Grassley

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Speaker 3: has long pointed to as a potential smoking gun implicating

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Speaker 3: then Vice President Joe Biden in the dealings with Barisma

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Speaker 3: to point out that that's not what this document does.

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Speaker 3: And frankly, in reading it, there are even some things

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Speaker 3: that could be lost in translation between the Russian that

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Speaker 3: he's referring to, and the translation of that Russian. So

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Speaker 3: it's not exactly a clean win or loss for anyone.

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Speaker 3: But nevertheless, Republicans are going to point to this continuously

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Speaker 3: as a clear sign of wrongdoing or potential wrongdoing, and

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Speaker 3: given a lenient deal by the Department of Justice for

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Speaker 3: his tax violations. This is yet another page of that

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Speaker 3: as we watch the Senate and the House move forward

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Speaker 3: on the House side using the power of the gabble

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Speaker 3: against his son, Hunter Biden.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, and worth pointing.

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Speaker 1: Out, I love by the way, how they described that. Right, Well,

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Speaker 1: these so called whistle bers. Okay, so NBC News now

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Speaker 1: move on from it because there's really nothing here because

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Speaker 1: in the history of the world, we've never had to

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Speaker 1: They're just straight up lying to you. I want to

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Speaker 1: what you think about all of this the number now,

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Speaker 1: with the stage set, with what you're now seeing the

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Speaker 1: two of our interview with James Comer. We did this

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Speaker 1: missenter Ted Cruise. If you missed the first part, go

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Speaker 1: back and listen to it all right, And I want

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Speaker 1: to pick it up with the money laundering. I want

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Speaker 1: pick it up with the WhatsApp message has now become

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Speaker 1: so famous that WhatsApp message was Hunter Biden shaking down

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Speaker 5: Ask you something.

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Speaker 6: So one of the things we've talked about a lot

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Speaker 6: is the WhatsApp message that that Hunter Biden sent to

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Speaker 6: his Chinese business associate, and the text of it says, quote,

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Speaker 6: I'm sitting here with my father and we would like

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Speaker 6: to understand why the commitment made has not been fulfilled.

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Speaker 6: Tell the director that I would like to resolve this

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Speaker 6: the chairman, I will will make certain that between the

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Speaker 6: waiting for the call with my father now. Number one

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Speaker 6: we've talked about there are really only two defenses that

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Speaker 6: One they can claim it's fake and fraudulent that it

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Speaker 6: The second thing they could claim as Hunter was lying,

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Speaker 5: Have they claimed that they have it.

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Speaker 7: No. All they've said is, well, he was on drugs

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Speaker 7: and he was going through a hard period in his life.

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Speaker 6: And am I right that the investigators wanted to use

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Speaker 6: GPS information to determine was Joe Biden sitting next to Hunter?

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Speaker 6: Because if he's typing this, I'm sitting next to my dad,

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Speaker 6: the fact that his dad was sitting next to him

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Speaker 7: They said that could have been easily proven. And so

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Speaker 7: why did they were not allowed to do that and

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Speaker 7: who was they? Just so everybody res s whistleblower. The

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Speaker 1: So, going back to Yessay's pod, they weren't allowed to

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Speaker 1: when they were trying to question him, his lawyers were

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Speaker 5: And there's another thing.

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Speaker 7: They interviewed some of these former associates like Rob Walker yep,

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Speaker 7: of those interviews, somebody told him there was a storage

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Speaker 4: Would prove they were telling the truth.

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Speaker 7: They were telling the truth, and that Joe was involved,

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Speaker 7: and they were never allowed to go into that storage building.

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Speaker 7: They were tipped off.

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Speaker 6: When they say today, you mean the Department of Justice

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Speaker 6: tipped Hunter Biden off that the invigators and wanted to

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Speaker 7: They tipped him off that they wanted to talk to

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Speaker 7: him at his house in California and they wanted to,

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Speaker 7: uh search his storage unit.

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Speaker 6: And look, if someone is guilty, if someone's a criminal,

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Speaker 5: What does drug dealer do? Yeah, he gets rid of

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Speaker 6: Sure is there any law enforcement justification for telling the

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Speaker 5: Hey, here's where we want to search.

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Speaker 6: To see if there's evidence of your criminality, and has

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Speaker 6: Devil's advocate. So they're saying we were trying to what

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Speaker 7: The one argument that they disclosed in the testimony to

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Speaker 7: the Overset Committee was that the Deputy US Attorney Wolf

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Speaker 7: said that the reason she wouldn't allow them to talk

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Speaker 7: who received wires and who were also subjects.

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Speaker 5: They were written out.

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Speaker 6: And let me stop you there, James, because look, I

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Speaker 6: can understand someone saying, Okay, maybe it's a little shady,

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Speaker 5: Talking to kids. I get it. But wait, these kids

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Speaker 5: were getting money from the Chinese communists in Romanian Foreign

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Speaker 5: national All right, you've got little kids.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, I'm gonna ask you right now on the record

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Speaker 6: on Verdict time, right, your children received any money from

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Speaker 6: the Chinese Communists?

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Speaker 5: By the way, James, you have kids, have your kids

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Speaker 8: Like?

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Speaker 5: Seriously, who the hell does.

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Speaker 4: Nobody unless you're money laundering?

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Speaker 6: Right? And by the way, these kids are little kids, yep,

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Speaker 6: so they're not working for it. Is it fair to

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Speaker 7: I doubt that the grandchild, who was in college at

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Speaker 7: the time, did anything near of any value to receive

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Speaker 7: a wire from a Romanian foreign national.

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Speaker 1: This is what money laundering sounds like. Hey, Ben Ferguson

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Speaker 1: But what actually happened in Ukraine? And what are the

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Speaker 6: Take listen well, and we've seen now it's broken recently

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Speaker 6: after that email, Joe Biden flies to Ukraine. Holds a

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Speaker 6: That's the quid pro quo in Ukraine. It was Joe Biden,

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Speaker 5: Yes, that's right.

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Speaker 5: For decades. I think that so.

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Speaker 7: You know, if you study Joe Biden like I have,

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Speaker 7: And look, they had to know what was going on

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Speaker 7: We're just now getting the Ukrainian money. But yes, Hunter

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Speaker 7: A ten to twenty three is a is a forum

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Speaker 6: So the informant called or spoke to the FBI and said,

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Speaker 5: Yes? Did that get investigated? No?

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Speaker 7: And that's why Grassley has been upset about that. You're

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Speaker 1: When you hear James comer sitting there telling you all

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Speaker 1: These are real whistleblowers coming forward telling you real information,

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Speaker 5: Again, never did, never did.

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Speaker 6: And by the way, David White, so the US attorney

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Speaker 7: The sad no weell in Kentucky, how US attorneys get appointed.

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Speaker 6: Let's be clear, no US attorney gets appointed without the

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Speaker 5: Senators, at least one in Kentucky and.

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Speaker 6: In Delaware there were two Home states Senator Tom Carper

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Speaker 5: They're both Democrats.

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Speaker 6: Joe Biden is the godfather of all Democrats in Delaware.

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Speaker 6: So what it means is David Weiss had to sign

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Speaker 5: Is all that right? That's right? And look, I mean

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Speaker 7: McConnell has a big say and who gets a pointed

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Speaker 5: I mean, that's just the way it works. And let

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Speaker 6: In Texas, there are not US attorneys appointed without John

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Speaker 5: That's the way the Senate operates, That's exactly.

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Speaker 6: And we have the ability to kill any US Attorney nominee.

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Speaker 6: That's just the way the Senate operates. And so I

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Speaker 6: Biden tax investigation was very different from any other case

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Speaker 6: How unusual is that?

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Speaker 7: It's unprecedented? Unprecedented. I mean, we create an RS Tax

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Speaker 7: what the whistleblowers have testified. And I can tell you,

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Speaker 6: By the way, is there a Democrat in the House

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Speaker 6: In the Senate on Senate Judiciary, not a single Democrat

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Speaker 1: Anybody even walking to you behind the scenes like hey,

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Speaker 4: This is corruption. I'm a Democrat.

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Speaker 1: I can't take the political risk because the have you

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Speaker 7: Behind the scenes, most Democrats wish Joe Biden would go home.

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Speaker 4: Okay, so they understand the liability.

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Speaker 7: Publicly question anything they've done pertaining to wrongdoing.

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Speaker 6: All right, let me give you another quote again from

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Speaker 6: on what's that messages from Hudder Biden where he suggested

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Speaker 5: Then, let me give another quote.

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Speaker 5: Right, Is that accurate? That is accurate?

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Speaker 7: And what he was talking about were the US attorneys

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Speaker 6: And am I right that the DCUs attorney was personally

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Speaker 6: That's both accurate and in both instances, Weiss wanted to

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Speaker 6: And the reason that matters is the most egregious tax

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Speaker 6: crimes that he committed were occurred in d C and

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Speaker 6: Central District, California, and both of these political donors to Biden.

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Speaker 6: Harris said, no, we won't bring those claims. That's right now. Look,

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Speaker 6: one of the consequences of this testimony. Merrick Garland, Biden's

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Speaker 6: Actually in response to questioning from me, he said, there's

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Speaker 6: no political interference whatsoever. And David Wise, the US attorney

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Speaker 6: is allowed to bring whatever charges he wants with zero interference.

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Speaker 6: He lied to you, Senator, and lying under oath is

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Speaker 6: a felon. And also the testimony the DOJ informed Hunter

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Speaker 6: Biden when they were gonna interview him, and form Hunter

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Speaker 6: Biden when they're gonna search the warehouse. All of that

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Speaker 6: is obstruction of justice.

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Speaker 5: That's right.

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Speaker 6: As I view it, I want to see if you

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Speaker 6: view it the same way, there are two and only

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Speaker 6: two scenarios. Either the whistleblowers are telling the truth, in

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Speaker 6: which case Merrick Garland has committed multiple felonies, or the

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Speaker 6: whistleblowers are not telling the truth, and so Merrick Garland's

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Speaker 6: entitled to defend themselves and maybe he can demonstrate what

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Speaker 6: they're saying is But if what they're saying is true,

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Speaker 6: we have an Attorney General as a fellow.

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Speaker 7: I think you're exactly right, and I think that more

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Speaker 7: and more people in the House of Representatives are realizing that.

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Speaker 7: I think today was a pivotal moment. I think a

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Speaker 7: lot of the moderate Republicans that get nervoush when you

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Speaker 7: talk about impeachment because honestly, a lot of our guys

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Speaker 7: don't want to impeach because they don't have confidence that's

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Speaker 7: the Senate will convict.

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Speaker 6: Well, and the Senate won't. To be clear, the chances

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Speaker 6: a single Democrat who will vote to convict and it

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Speaker 6: doesn't matter what the evidence is. So to impeach in

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Speaker 6: the House takes a majority.

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Speaker 5: Right.

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Speaker 6: If Republicans stand together they'll do so, though, I'll predict

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Speaker 6: if y'all impeach, whether it is Merrick Garland or Allahidro

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Speaker 6: Mayorkas or Joe Biden, I'll predict you will not get

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Speaker 6: a single Democrat that votes to impeach in the House.

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Speaker 7: Yeah.

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Speaker 1: Now, if you want to hear the rest of this conversation,

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Speaker 1: you can download Vernon Ted Cruz wherever you get your podcasts,

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Speaker 1: and listen to it in its entirety. There's also something

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Speaker 1: else that's happening now, and that is the deep state

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Speaker 1: is really now digging in to fight back because they

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Speaker 1: realize they're in trouble. CNN this Morning had this to

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Speaker 1: say about Chuck Grassley releasing this FBI document. Listen this

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Speaker 1: this ten to twenty three form listen all right.

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Speaker 8: The FBI, the White House sharply criticizing a move by

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Speaker 8: Senator Chuck Grassley, the Iowa Republican releasing an internal FBI

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Speaker 8: document with unverified claims from twenty sixteen that President Biden

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Speaker 8: and his son Hunter purportedly received bribes from the CEO

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Speaker 8: of the Ukrainian energy company Barisma. Now, Grassley says he

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Speaker 8: is able to release that document. It's called a form

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Speaker 8: ten twenty three because of quote legally protected disclosure by

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Speaker 8: Justice Department whistleblowers. But the FBI says Grassley's release of

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Speaker 8: this information unverified information at a minimum, risks the safety

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Speaker 8: of confidential sources, and the White House sharply criticized Republicans

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Speaker 8: for pushing long debunkedanes.

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Speaker 1: They're going to fight back. They're going to keep fighting back.

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Speaker 1: They're now going to go after Center Grassley. They're gonna

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Speaker 1: go after anybody that keeps doing this moving forward. They're

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Speaker 1: gonna go after every whistleblower. The media is going to

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Speaker 1: do this for them, just the same way that I

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Speaker 1: just mentioned what happened in NBC News saying that you know,

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Speaker 1: well parts of Biden's FBI form could be lost in

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Speaker 1: translation from Russia, right, like implying that, well, you can't

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Speaker 1: say that this form is any good because this form

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Speaker 1: it came through and it's in Russian, and so we

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Speaker 1: we apparently our government's too stupid or the media is

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Speaker 1: too stupid. We can't we can't figure out how to

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Speaker 1: translate Russian, right, So it's just too hard translating Russia

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Speaker 1: a Russian uh is just something we just can't take on.

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Speaker 1: That's their new alibi. And if you're a whistleblower, you're

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Speaker 1: not really a whistleblower. You're an alleged whistle blower, you're

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Speaker 1: a so called whistlebler, you're not actually a whistlebler because

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Speaker 1: because apparently the only people that can be whistleblowers now

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Speaker 1: are people that the media and the Democratic Party decide

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Speaker 1: to give that title too. If you come in, you

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Speaker 1: use the whistlewlarer laws, you go through the back channel,

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Speaker 1: the channels the way you're supposed to be a whistleblower,

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Speaker 1: and you do everything perfectly, but you're telling a you're

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Speaker 1: boyling the whistle and saying they don't want you to know.

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Speaker 1: Then you're no longer a whistlebler. You're an alleged whistler.

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Speaker 1: In other words, you're a fake, you're a fraud, you're

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Speaker 1: not real, and they will come after you with everything

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Speaker 1: they have. Now, there's one of two things that are

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Speaker 1: going to happen. Now. There's either going to be so

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Speaker 1: many people in our government that are so angry at

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Speaker 1: the demonizing and dehumanizing behavior of the deep state attacking

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Speaker 1: these whistleblowers, that more whistle blowers will come forward. And

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Speaker 1: I think there's a very good chance that could happen,

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Speaker 1: because if you see your friends being crucified this way

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Speaker 1: that you work with, that you know are not pushing

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Speaker 1: a political agenda and or ideology, you're going to be

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Speaker 1: mad as hell and you're probably gonna say, screw it,

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Speaker 1: I'll come forward. Two. This may be a massive political

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Speaker 1: backfire for the Democrats because they just usually get their way.

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Speaker 1: That's what normally happens, right, they can say and do

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Speaker 1: whatever they want to do. I think that's going to

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Speaker 1: backfire big time now. I think it's gonna be significant

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Speaker 1: that other people are gonna say, I'm gonna stand with

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Speaker 1: my friends who are telling the truth, And how dare

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Speaker 1: you act like they're politically motivated when they are just

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Speaker 1: trying to tell you that they couldn't do their job.

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Speaker 1: And when you see them treat your friends this way,

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Speaker 1: that's when people start to come back and say, no,

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Speaker 1: don't forget. If you want to listen to part one,

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Speaker 1: Go Back Down with Ben ferguson podcasts, you can hear

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Speaker 1: part one