WEBVTT - Rick Wilson & Trae Crowder 0:00:00.640 --> 0:00:04.160 Hi, I'm Molly John Fast and this is Fast Politics, 0:00:04.360 --> 0:00:07.160 where we discussed the top political headlines with some of 0:00:07.160 --> 0:00:11.600 today's best minds. And Donald Trump has signed an executive 0:00:11.760 --> 0:00:13.920 order to dismantle Voice of America. 0:00:14.160 --> 0:00:15.840 We have such a great show for you today. 0:00:15.880 --> 0:00:19.840 The Lincoln Project's own Rick Wilson joins us to discuss 0:00:20.200 --> 0:00:24.920 the handling of the cr and democratic leadership strategies. Then 0:00:24.960 --> 0:00:29.720 we'll talk to comedian Trey Crowder about his new comedy special, 0:00:29.840 --> 0:00:30.680 Trash Daddy. 0:00:30.800 --> 0:00:31.800 But first the news. 0:00:32.360 --> 0:00:37.680 So, Molly, the Trump deportations are starting to not seem 0:00:37.760 --> 0:00:41.320 like it's the rapists and criminals he promised, and some 0:00:41.440 --> 0:00:43.920 people we really need in this country. And this is 0:00:44.200 --> 0:00:46.879 getting confusing for some of those MAGA people who are 0:00:46.880 --> 0:00:49.360 willing to admit that Trump can have faults at times. 0:00:49.920 --> 0:00:53.760 Yeah, it turns out that Trump is actually just deporting 0:00:54.000 --> 0:00:58.040 people who have last names. So here's a doctor studying 0:00:58.040 --> 0:01:00.880 at Brown. You may know Brown as the Ivy League 0:01:00.920 --> 0:01:06.080 institution in Rhode Island. She was deported out of the 0:01:06.120 --> 0:01:09.360 country for reasons still unclear to her family, her lawyer, 0:01:09.480 --> 0:01:13.360 and her Brown Medicine colleagues. They did not do anything 0:01:13.360 --> 0:01:15.520 to stop the plane who was learning details of the 0:01:15.520 --> 0:01:19.880 event through information relaid by her family members, So clearly 0:01:19.959 --> 0:01:23.480 they wanted to deport her, regardless of if the judge 0:01:23.520 --> 0:01:26.959 said orders are not worth seeing this everywhere Trump world 0:01:27.160 --> 0:01:30.120 getting court orders telling them not to deport people, and 0:01:30.160 --> 0:01:34.279 them just deporting people. Why because they don't follow the law. 0:01:34.520 --> 0:01:37.800 Why don't they follow the law because they're criminals. 0:01:38.360 --> 0:01:40.360 And we're seeing this more and more. 0:01:41.080 --> 0:01:46.240 She was a doctor in Rhode Island evaluating potential transplant 0:01:46.280 --> 0:01:52.400 recipients and following the progress of those patients after their procedures. Oh, 0:01:52.520 --> 0:01:55.600 a transplant doctor. That is not who we should be 0:01:55.680 --> 0:01:56.960 deporting team. 0:01:57.160 --> 0:02:00.880 Yeah, and people don't realize transplant doctors are really hard 0:02:00.920 --> 0:02:01.400 to come by. 0:02:01.760 --> 0:02:05.480 Well, and also the whole idea here is I mean, 0:02:05.520 --> 0:02:09.120 this is just so fucked up, and you'll be shocked 0:02:09.160 --> 0:02:12.080 to know that she is not the only one. 0:02:12.400 --> 0:02:12.640 Yeah. 0:02:12.720 --> 0:02:16.440 No, I've read another story that just seemed dumbfounding why 0:02:16.440 --> 0:02:19.160 they would deport this person. They had a light marijuana 0:02:19.200 --> 0:02:22.280 possession charge that was then forgiven and they deported him. 0:02:22.600 --> 0:02:23.520 It's ridiculous. 0:02:23.960 --> 0:02:27.520 So Molly Trump is celebrating after killing an anti money 0:02:27.600 --> 0:02:28.200 laundering law. 0:02:28.320 --> 0:02:30.000 Does that sound like training the swamp to you. 0:02:30.480 --> 0:02:35.079 Trump celebrates after killing anti money laundering law. Look, this 0:02:35.120 --> 0:02:38.639 is the whole thing, right. They're ending the Consumer Protection Bureau, 0:02:38.800 --> 0:02:42.760 They're ending all these laws, these anti corruption laws. They're 0:02:42.840 --> 0:02:47.840 just firing inspectors general. These are not things that you 0:02:48.040 --> 0:02:51.960 do when you want to end corruption. These are not 0:02:52.200 --> 0:02:56.120 moves for transparency. These are things you do when you 0:02:56.160 --> 0:03:01.079 want to increase corruption. Firing the people people who root 0:03:01.160 --> 0:03:07.920 out corruption means that they are planning on doing corruption 0:03:08.760 --> 0:03:12.400 in In fact, the government will no longer require shell 0:03:12.480 --> 0:03:17.840 companies to disclose their owners and beneficiaries, allowing wealthy corporations 0:03:17.840 --> 0:03:22.480 and individuals to hide the profits from the public. Some 0:03:22.680 --> 0:03:27.320 businesses to report information on people who control or own 0:03:27.360 --> 0:03:28.519 a company indirectly. 0:03:29.160 --> 0:03:31.960 Quickly, Trump went. 0:03:31.840 --> 0:03:36.000 To Truse Social after the Treasury announcement, posting exciting news. 0:03:36.560 --> 0:03:40.200 The Biden rule has been an absolute disaster for small businesses. 0:03:40.520 --> 0:03:43.440 It has been an absolute disaster for people who want 0:03:43.600 --> 0:03:45.400 to do crimes. 0:03:44.920 --> 0:03:46.120 And hide them. 0:03:47.000 --> 0:03:50.600 And now it is gone coincidence. 0:03:50.800 --> 0:03:53.920 I think not no, And I think the Lever did 0:03:53.960 --> 0:03:57.200 that great documentary, The Master Plaod that really laid out 0:03:57.400 --> 0:04:00.080 how much of this has been a long played The 0:04:00.120 --> 0:04:02.360 Republican Party to do these type of things, and that 0:04:02.560 --> 0:04:05.320 people that we thought were saying, like John Roberts, the 0:04:05.360 --> 0:04:09.200 Supreme Court justice, is all part of this and totally 0:04:09.240 --> 0:04:12.720 in on it. Yeah, but Molly, this must just be 0:04:12.760 --> 0:04:18.440 our Trump arrangement syndrome talking and sadly, in Minnesota. 0:04:17.640 --> 0:04:18.760 Our mental illness. 0:04:19.080 --> 0:04:21.760 Yeah, Republicans are pushing to get that classified as a 0:04:21.839 --> 0:04:23.839 mental illness in Minnesota. 0:04:24.000 --> 0:04:28.320 Yes, mental illness, all right, whatever, I mean, this is 0:04:28.360 --> 0:04:34.640 so dumb. This is like welcome to peak dumb Trump troll. 0:04:35.440 --> 0:04:38.039 We're not mentally ill. We just want him to stop 0:04:38.080 --> 0:04:39.000 breaking the law. 0:04:39.560 --> 0:04:42.120 Yeah, it's the more craven reads of this are that 0:04:42.279 --> 0:04:44.120 you know this is going to be for in prison. 0:04:44.279 --> 0:04:45.200 I don't think this is that. 0:04:45.240 --> 0:04:48.120 This is just that everything in the Republican everything, the 0:04:48.160 --> 0:04:51.360 Republican Party is trying to own the Libs s right now. 0:04:51.880 --> 0:04:56.839 Okay, So Chris Murphy says, Americans want Democrats to take 0:04:57.279 --> 0:05:01.520 risks right now to save our democracy. Direct Chris Murphy, 0:05:01.760 --> 0:05:07.679 that is correct. Nobody wants Democrats to just roll over 0:05:07.880 --> 0:05:12.159 and watch Republicans and American democracy. We want to see 0:05:12.160 --> 0:05:16.120 Democrats fight like Republicans. We want to see them protect 0:05:16.240 --> 0:05:17.680 norms and institutions. 0:05:17.760 --> 0:05:19.080 We want to see them. 0:05:19.200 --> 0:05:23.160 Protect us, protect their voters. I mean they're already deporting people. 0:05:23.520 --> 0:05:26.280 Where does this end? And I think Chris Murphy is 0:05:26.279 --> 0:05:29.240 completely right. I think the whole idea that I feel 0:05:29.279 --> 0:05:32.559 like our elected leaders are just not meeting the moment 0:05:32.600 --> 0:05:33.000 at all. 0:05:33.200 --> 0:05:35.440 And I'm not the only one, by the way. 0:05:35.560 --> 0:05:39.600 The polling, I mean, like the polling shows that Democrats 0:05:39.600 --> 0:05:43.640 are like the least popular they've ever been, twenty seven percent. 0:05:43.880 --> 0:05:46.440 I mean, the voters are not happy. 0:05:46.600 --> 0:05:48.320 And I think a lot of people are mistaking that. 0:05:48.360 --> 0:05:51.760 For the voters just hate the Democratic brand right now, 0:05:51.800 --> 0:05:53.560 and it doesn't seem to be that it's that it's 0:05:53.600 --> 0:05:56.520 like embarrassing because they don't represent what we want. 0:05:57.080 --> 0:05:59.920 Yeah, And I also think like people are taking real risks. 0:06:00.040 --> 0:06:03.960 They're out there protesting in a very crazy moment in 0:06:04.000 --> 0:06:07.520 American life, and your constituent should not be taking. 0:06:07.279 --> 0:06:08.480 More risks than you will. 0:06:14.960 --> 0:06:16.960 Rick Wilson is the founder of the Lincoln Project and 0:06:17.000 --> 0:06:20.480 the host of the Enemy's List Welcome Back, Too Fast Politics. 0:06:20.560 --> 0:06:26.520 Rick Wilson, Mollie junk Fast. Thanks, going great, going great. 0:06:27.000 --> 0:06:30.040 It's going great. Everything is awesome. 0:06:30.680 --> 0:06:34.599 So basically every what I love about European newspapers. Is 0:06:34.600 --> 0:06:38.320 they're all like you guys are on the knife edge 0:06:38.320 --> 0:06:39.400 of fascism. 0:06:39.640 --> 0:06:42.640 FYI, I will say this, I'm not even sure we're 0:06:42.680 --> 0:06:44.400 on the knife's edge anymore. I feel like the diving 0:06:44.440 --> 0:06:48.000 board is like going, and we're headed towards it at 0:06:48.000 --> 0:06:50.720 a very fast pace after having decided to dive right 0:06:50.720 --> 0:06:53.039 into the delicious warm waters of oppression. 0:06:53.279 --> 0:06:54.960 So here's a question for you. 0:06:55.240 --> 0:07:01.280 I vacinate between being very worried m thinking oh, these 0:07:01.279 --> 0:07:03.159 guys are pretty incompetent and it'll be okay. 0:07:03.400 --> 0:07:04.960 I embrace their incompetence. 0:07:05.040 --> 0:07:07.280 If we survive, it will be because of that. 0:07:07.520 --> 0:07:10.520 Right, Yeah, I embrace their incompetence. But I mean I 0:07:10.560 --> 0:07:11.440 can't count on. 0:07:11.400 --> 0:07:14.320 It, right, right, That's I think that's a move. 0:07:14.560 --> 0:07:16.400 I can't like wake up in the marine and go, well, 0:07:16.480 --> 0:07:18.960 thank god, they'll all fuck up because they're such idiots. 0:07:19.440 --> 0:07:21.520 I mean, they may well fuck up, but there is 0:07:21.560 --> 0:07:24.120 a certain degree of momentum right now on things where 0:07:24.120 --> 0:07:26.960 they're not fucking up. And I'll give you the perfect example. 0:07:27.200 --> 0:07:29.360 And not a lot of people have like fully locked 0:07:29.400 --> 0:07:33.160 onto this yet. But today, in absolute defiance of a 0:07:33.200 --> 0:07:36.960 federal court order, Trump continued to deport el Salvadorians out 0:07:37.000 --> 0:07:39.960 of the country. There's an absolute court order that says 0:07:40.480 --> 0:07:43.800 thou shalt not until we have a hearing, and they said, 0:07:44.440 --> 0:07:46.080 fuck you, and they're doing it. 0:07:46.440 --> 0:07:51.000 But hot take, they're not deporting them to al Salvador, right. 0:07:51.280 --> 0:07:53.120 No, of course not. Who the fuck knows where they're 0:07:53.120 --> 0:07:56.440 going to deport him. But this idea though, that these 0:07:56.480 --> 0:08:01.720 guys have have just decided to ignore the very clear 0:08:01.800 --> 0:08:05.000 stipulations of a court order. That is a post small 0:08:05.080 --> 0:08:07.880 d democratic country unless you have a rule of law 0:08:07.920 --> 0:08:11.400 that everybody plays by, and these guys do not. Right now, 0:08:11.840 --> 0:08:13.960 I think we're in some terrible kind of position. 0:08:14.160 --> 0:08:18.560 So let's not get fatalistic, let's get happy and I'm 0:08:18.600 --> 0:08:20.880 just kidding. No, let's just sort of talk to where 0:08:20.880 --> 0:08:23.800 we are right now. There was a CR. It was 0:08:24.040 --> 0:08:26.440 in the House. I want to talk this through because 0:08:26.760 --> 0:08:29.800 they had to pass the CR to stop a shutdown. 0:08:29.880 --> 0:08:33.320 The Democrats didn't have to, but there was a moment 0:08:33.480 --> 0:08:38.040 right a cliff and Republicans probably would have written Republicans 0:08:38.040 --> 0:08:40.400 were supposedly from what I understand from what I heard 0:08:40.440 --> 0:08:43.439 from the office one of the leadership offices. I'm not 0:08:43.480 --> 0:08:46.679 going to say which one. They were told that OMB 0:08:47.000 --> 0:08:50.960 was delighted with a shutdown and that ross Volt was 0:08:51.000 --> 0:08:56.000 planning on designating HR as essential. 0:08:55.679 --> 0:08:57.000 Workers a central personnel. 0:08:57.080 --> 0:08:59.640 Yeah right, so they were going to put HR as 0:08:59.679 --> 0:09:02.440 a center to workers and just keep firing the federal 0:09:02.480 --> 0:09:08.640 government during the shutdown. And this thread got the leadership 0:09:08.679 --> 0:09:12.720 world scared enough to just keep going and just give 0:09:12.760 --> 0:09:14.760 them the R. But here's my hot ist taken. I 0:09:14.800 --> 0:09:17.400 want you to talk to us about this again. You know, 0:09:17.559 --> 0:09:21.000 what people say and what really happened are two different things. Maybe, 0:09:21.080 --> 0:09:23.880 but I wonder if you could talk through why once 0:09:23.920 --> 0:09:27.800 the CR got out of the House, Democrats were actually cooked. 0:09:28.240 --> 0:09:31.560 I still believe that Schumer had more leverage than he 0:09:31.880 --> 0:09:35.120 either understood or cared to exercise. I found the whole 0:09:35.120 --> 0:09:37.400 thing still deeply inexplicable. 0:09:37.600 --> 0:09:39.800 But if we could go back to the original sin 0:09:39.880 --> 0:09:42.480 here the CR in the House. 0:09:42.920 --> 0:09:46.199 Oh yeah, Look, my view on everything with the Democrats 0:09:46.240 --> 0:09:49.080 right now is they've got to form a shield wall 0:09:49.440 --> 0:09:52.880 of absolute no on this bullshit. They've got to stop 0:09:52.920 --> 0:09:55.480 this idea that they're going to My honorable colleague across 0:09:55.520 --> 0:09:58.920 the aisle is a good faith interlocktor. They're not. They've 0:09:59.000 --> 0:10:01.440 yet to understand you have to stop them over and 0:10:01.440 --> 0:10:03.440 over again. You don't just get to stop them one time. 0:10:03.720 --> 0:10:05.360 You have to stop them every time. 0:10:05.880 --> 0:10:08.600 So when we talk about this CR in the House, 0:10:09.280 --> 0:10:12.600 it was voted, there was one Democrat who voted for it, 0:10:12.960 --> 0:10:14.800 Jared Golden, main. 0:10:15.360 --> 0:10:17.760 Beloved of no labels. Jared Golden. 0:10:17.880 --> 0:10:21.960 Well, I have met him before, and he's a in 0:10:21.960 --> 0:10:24.360 an R plus twenty seven district. 0:10:24.400 --> 0:10:27.720 Right, he's like the last rural Democrat. Now pause for 0:10:27.720 --> 0:10:28.200 a minute. 0:10:28.600 --> 0:10:33.120 I still think that had Jeffries been more with it, 0:10:33.480 --> 0:10:36.720 he could have told Golden not to vote for it 0:10:36.760 --> 0:10:37.760 and it wouldn't have passed. 0:10:38.000 --> 0:10:40.840 Yeah, he could have said to Golden, I'm counting this vote. 0:10:40.880 --> 0:10:42.960 I'm whipping this vote. You don't get a pass on 0:10:43.000 --> 0:10:46.120 this one, but you do get ten million dollars if 0:10:46.160 --> 0:10:48.720 you need it. None of this is to my mind 0:10:49.160 --> 0:10:52.000 forgivable for any of them. They all have to take 0:10:52.040 --> 0:10:56.440 some responsibility here. But I think Schumer precapitulated in this thing, 0:10:56.480 --> 0:11:01.080 which really I found unbelievable that he showed his cards 0:11:01.360 --> 0:11:05.120 before even bothering to find out what he could get. Yeah, 0:11:05.160 --> 0:11:06.880 and he should have asked for something. He should have 0:11:06.920 --> 0:11:07.760 gone for something. 0:11:08.000 --> 0:11:11.080 Right, This is something I'd love to talk to you. 0:11:11.160 --> 0:11:13.240 For one we're talking about, which is when you have 0:11:13.320 --> 0:11:16.760 a cr like this and you have a House that's 0:11:16.800 --> 0:11:20.240 so tight and a Senate where you know you need 0:11:20.280 --> 0:11:23.360 four votes, right, I wonder if you could play out 0:11:23.400 --> 0:11:26.000 to me what you think this would have looked like 0:11:26.120 --> 0:11:29.320 with a Harry Reed, Nancy Pelosi one two. 0:11:29.360 --> 0:11:31.360 Or if it was Mitch McConnell on the other side. 0:11:31.440 --> 0:11:35.240 They would have leaned in on everybody. They would have 0:11:35.280 --> 0:11:38.120 leaned in on those House members that like Golden they 0:11:38.160 --> 0:11:41.320 got flaky and shaky. They would have told their own members, 0:11:41.679 --> 0:11:45.040 you are voting for this bill at your mortal fucking peril. 0:11:45.240 --> 0:11:47.960 Do not believe for a moment I'm not keeping track 0:11:48.040 --> 0:11:51.240 of every one of you. This is not acceptable. If 0:11:51.280 --> 0:11:55.359 you don't show a weak spot, it can't be exploited. 0:11:55.480 --> 0:11:58.600 And they showed very simply that Chuck Schumer was afraid 0:11:59.080 --> 0:12:01.800 more of the blow back than of the game. I 0:12:01.840 --> 0:12:05.440 don't accept a world where I know for a fact 0:12:05.960 --> 0:12:10.040 Mitch McConnell would have absolutely run John Thune's bell if 0:12:10.080 --> 0:12:11.600 he was on the other side of this equation. 0:12:12.080 --> 0:12:14.560 Right, No, No, absolutely, one hundred percent. 0:12:14.720 --> 0:12:17.080 I just think it's unforgivable, and. 0:12:17.000 --> 0:12:20.040 It seems like my man is not getting forgiven. So 0:12:20.400 --> 0:12:22.400 let's talk about sort of where we are as a 0:12:22.440 --> 0:12:26.400 party right now. So Democrats are everyone I know, Maybe 0:12:26.440 --> 0:12:28.120 not everyone I know, but a lot of people I 0:12:28.200 --> 0:12:31.400 know are protesting all the time. Right, You cannot walk 0:12:31.400 --> 0:12:34.320 down the street without whacking into a protest. Right, They're 0:12:34.360 --> 0:12:36.520 everywhere there on the west side, they're on the east side, 0:12:36.520 --> 0:12:41.800 then they're uptown, theyir midtown. Columbia University grad student still 0:12:41.960 --> 0:12:47.280 in a Louisiana detention center. He is got a green card, 0:12:47.360 --> 0:12:50.640 married to a pregnant citizen. 0:12:50.880 --> 0:12:52.400 Pregnant American citizen. 0:12:52.520 --> 0:12:58.640 Yes, yes, his crime was being the negotiator, right, and yeah. 0:12:58.800 --> 0:13:01.960 Yeah, we are seeing a preview. They're finding a person 0:13:02.000 --> 0:13:05.160 who is an affiliate, if you want to say it 0:13:05.160 --> 0:13:09.839 that way in the most exaggerated case, but a loud 0:13:09.880 --> 0:13:13.439 mouth in the actual case. If you believe that you 0:13:13.520 --> 0:13:17.560 can redefine everything as terrorism, then nothing is terrorism. If 0:13:17.600 --> 0:13:20.480 you're gonna if you're gonna find a college protester who's 0:13:20.480 --> 0:13:23.520 started to build a you know what, it was illegal, Okay, 0:13:23.640 --> 0:13:26.120 he violated the law. There are plenty of ways and 0:13:26.160 --> 0:13:29.640 plenty of things on the scale where violating the law 0:13:30.320 --> 0:13:34.520 is horrible but is punishable, And this is one of 0:13:34.559 --> 0:13:37.160 their things where they want they're trying to lure the 0:13:37.160 --> 0:13:40.040 country into this dialogue that anyone who's critical of Trump's 0:13:40.080 --> 0:13:45.520 priorities eg. Israel is somehow a terrorist or a terrorist affiliate, right. 0:13:45.600 --> 0:13:49.240 But I also think some of this is that he's 0:13:49.400 --> 0:13:52.200 using antisept like this guy does not give a fuck 0:13:52.240 --> 0:13:53.400 about anti Semitism. 0:13:53.520 --> 0:13:55.080 Oh share about anti Semitism. 0:13:55.360 --> 0:13:59.000 He's like, anti Semitism is the scourge and these people 0:13:59.040 --> 0:14:01.800 aren't anti Semitic. And it's like, as a liberal Jew, 0:14:01.960 --> 0:14:05.400 I can tell you that this is not about making 0:14:05.480 --> 0:14:08.480 life better for Jews. And I think the sooner that 0:14:08.640 --> 0:14:12.120 Jews are able to wake the fuck up and know 0:14:12.240 --> 0:14:14.880 that this has nothing to do with an anti Semitism, 0:14:15.080 --> 0:14:16.360 the better look. 0:14:16.400 --> 0:14:18.480 I think there are a lot of people on the 0:14:18.600 --> 0:14:21.920 right who have decided that their superpower is going to 0:14:21.960 --> 0:14:26.280 be leveling opposition by saying that if you're not with us, 0:14:26.280 --> 0:14:29.280 you're anti anti semit you're a terrorist. And then the 0:14:29.360 --> 0:14:31.640 problem I think we're about to encounter, and I don't 0:14:31.680 --> 0:14:34.840 think it's a trivial problem, is that they have found 0:14:35.240 --> 0:14:38.640 a weak spot in American liberals where they don't want 0:14:38.680 --> 0:14:40.640 to be called anti Semitic, even if they know it's 0:14:40.640 --> 0:14:43.080 not true, even if they know it's garbage. They don't 0:14:43.120 --> 0:14:44.360 want to be called that. They don't want to be 0:14:44.360 --> 0:14:46.280 in that position. They don't want to feel that way. 0:14:46.560 --> 0:14:49.120 And it's awful. But you know, these guys are not 0:14:49.240 --> 0:14:51.800 good faith actors. I keep saying that to people. It's like, 0:14:52.000 --> 0:14:54.000 do not think that this that this is some sort 0:14:54.040 --> 0:14:57.000 of difference of opinion, This is some sort of difference 0:14:57.080 --> 0:15:01.480 of ideology. This is a politic tactic where they're going 0:15:01.560 --> 0:15:04.480 to say, Okay, well, now we took out that terrorist 0:15:05.280 --> 0:15:07.360 and that now we have to take out these other 0:15:07.600 --> 0:15:12.160 terrorists who are also opposed to Trump's policies, whether it's 0:15:12.160 --> 0:15:13.840 on Israel or anything else. 0:15:14.320 --> 0:15:16.920 Right, And I think that is I think that is 0:15:16.960 --> 0:15:20.440 the big that this really does not have anything to 0:15:20.520 --> 0:15:24.000 do with anti Semitism, but has everything to do with 0:15:24.160 --> 0:15:26.560 Trump's enemies or perceived. 0:15:26.200 --> 0:15:27.040 Or real enemies. 0:15:27.200 --> 0:15:29.040 That's right. I think that's exactly right. 0:15:29.080 --> 0:15:30.880 And this is hit with a one two punch, right, 0:15:30.960 --> 0:15:34.600 four hundred million dollars of funding from Columbia arresting grad 0:15:34.680 --> 0:15:38.040 students and sending them to Louisiana, right, Like, this is 0:15:38.320 --> 0:15:43.800 part of authoritarian playbooks. So all of the experts in authoritarianism, 0:15:43.800 --> 0:15:47.400 and I'm thinking about Steven Lebitski from Harvard, who is 0:15:47.520 --> 0:15:51.640 one of my favorites, say you have to push back hard, 0:15:51.720 --> 0:15:54.120 you have to push back right away. You have to 0:15:54.280 --> 0:15:57.800 immediately get together as a group. Like, how much of 0:15:57.840 --> 0:16:01.280 the country do you think like love this trump ism, 0:16:01.600 --> 0:16:06.080 this authoritarianism, this sort of orange orbonism. 0:16:06.440 --> 0:16:07.360 Twenty five percent? 0:16:07.560 --> 0:16:08.600 That's what I think too. 0:16:09.080 --> 0:16:11.320 I think it's I think it's twenty five percent, And 0:16:11.360 --> 0:16:13.800 I think an awful lot of that twenty five percent 0:16:14.280 --> 0:16:19.240 is relatively soft, because you know they're there. Yes, there 0:16:19.240 --> 0:16:23.280 are the Tucker Carlsonite sort of tendency in the GOP today, 0:16:23.360 --> 0:16:25.240 but that is still a minority, and there are still 0:16:25.280 --> 0:16:27.880 a lot of people that don't look at at oppression 0:16:28.120 --> 0:16:31.480 and dictatorship as the role model for American political life. 0:16:31.600 --> 0:16:33.760 Even in the MAGA world, there's some there's been some 0:16:33.880 --> 0:16:35.720 hesitation in some like, oh do we have to do 0:16:35.800 --> 0:16:39.760 that right? Not enough in my opinion, not consistently in 0:16:39.800 --> 0:16:42.480 my opinion. But the space that they're in right now 0:16:42.560 --> 0:16:45.480 I think is very problematic for them because you really 0:16:45.520 --> 0:16:47.840 are asking a bunch of Americans who grew up in 0:16:47.880 --> 0:16:50.520 the Cold War, who did not believe in Putin and 0:16:50.560 --> 0:16:52.840 the Russians as the good guys. You're asking them to 0:16:52.880 --> 0:16:55.400 pretend that Putin and the Russian are the good guys. 0:16:55.720 --> 0:16:56.600 Yeah, and they're not. 0:16:57.200 --> 0:16:58.320 Nope, they are. 0:16:58.240 --> 0:17:01.480 Not, are not, now, never have been, never will be. 0:17:01.880 --> 0:17:05.000 Yeah, nobody thinks they're the good guys. They are not 0:17:05.160 --> 0:17:05.879 the good guys. 0:17:06.000 --> 0:17:08.800 Man, they are exceedingly bad guys. And one of the 0:17:08.800 --> 0:17:11.359 things we're about to learn. I think I think the 0:17:11.400 --> 0:17:14.720 Europeans have done a kind of brilliant job in resetting 0:17:15.000 --> 0:17:18.240 the power equation in Europe. Yeah, by just saying, Okay, 0:17:18.320 --> 0:17:21.000 well we'll buy our own airplanes, we'll build our own Shit, 0:17:21.359 --> 0:17:23.240 We're not going to play this game, and we're not 0:17:23.280 --> 0:17:25.480 going to sit here in MacDonald Trump break apart the 0:17:25.520 --> 0:17:29.240 rest of the European Alliance. I think Trump really thought 0:17:29.520 --> 0:17:32.359 that there would be a quick capitulation by the rest 0:17:32.359 --> 0:17:35.040 of Europe, because he does have that sort of that 0:17:35.080 --> 0:17:39.199 sort of cheesy, cliched Tucker style thing of like everyone 0:17:39.240 --> 0:17:43.120 in the European Union is a trans wissy or whatever. 0:17:43.480 --> 0:17:45.840 They have this like stupid image in their heads, that 0:17:46.080 --> 0:17:46.760 is not true. 0:17:47.359 --> 0:17:50.640 Right, We're in it, right, We're in Project twenty twenty five. 0:17:50.760 --> 0:17:52.560 Right, we are all in that shit. 0:17:52.920 --> 0:17:56.160 Yeah, let's sort of talk from minute. If you were 0:17:56.359 --> 0:17:59.880 in the kind of dream scenario where you like, if 0:17:59.880 --> 0:18:04.119 you you were actually sort of setting up people to 0:18:04.280 --> 0:18:08.000 survive democracy, to survive what would be your first thing 0:18:08.040 --> 0:18:08.439 you would do? 0:18:08.840 --> 0:18:11.159 Well, The first thing you have to do is address 0:18:11.359 --> 0:18:16.000 the singular force that's giving all these Republicans' confidence to 0:18:16.000 --> 0:18:19.000 stick with Trump, and that singular force is Elon Musk. 0:18:19.200 --> 0:18:23.119 Right now, they wake up every day and they say, Haha, 0:18:23.200 --> 0:18:25.640 if I do what Elon wants, He'll throw twenty five 0:18:25.640 --> 0:18:28.080 to fifty million, one hundred million dollars at my campaign 0:18:28.119 --> 0:18:29.600 if I need it. And look, I don't think a 0:18:29.600 --> 0:18:32.600 lot of them are wrong about that. So the destruction 0:18:32.680 --> 0:18:35.680 of Tesla's stock value in the market has done more 0:18:35.720 --> 0:18:39.040 for American politics in the last ten days than any 0:18:39.080 --> 0:18:41.520 of us bitching or writing op eds. I think that 0:18:41.680 --> 0:18:44.760 is an important thing to consider. What's the only thing 0:18:44.800 --> 0:18:47.399 that started to alter his behavior. It's his stock price 0:18:47.520 --> 0:18:50.159 crashing into the ground. Look, folks, if you've got a 0:18:50.160 --> 0:18:52.680 Tesla to sell it, if you're think about buying a Tesla. Don't. 0:18:52.800 --> 0:18:56.119 If you're a state government and you give Tesla buyers 0:18:56.200 --> 0:19:00.560 any kind of incentive, cancel it tomorrow. California, by the way, 0:19:00.760 --> 0:19:03.879 is part of why Elon Musk is still surviving financially, 0:19:04.320 --> 0:19:09.320 because California is still giving people these enormous tax credits 0:19:08.920 --> 0:19:13.359 and rebates for electric vehicles. I know you love electric vehicles, guys. 0:19:13.359 --> 0:19:16.359 I'm not no hate on electric vehicles, but Tesla is 0:19:16.400 --> 0:19:19.359 no longer an electric vehicle company. It is a bank 0:19:19.600 --> 0:19:20.679 for fascists. 0:19:21.040 --> 0:19:26.040 Yeah, I mean no, it's true. I mean that's the 0:19:26.080 --> 0:19:28.480 thing is, they can't make us fine. Tesla is as 0:19:28.560 --> 0:19:33.200 much as Teslay Teslay. Yeah, that's a really good point. 0:19:33.400 --> 0:19:36.840 Tesla stock. So basically Elon has has. 0:19:37.040 --> 0:19:40.080 You gotta start. You gotta start knocking Elon's knocking Elon's 0:19:40.119 --> 0:19:44.639 ability to wage these battles down to size. Everything about 0:19:44.680 --> 0:19:48.320 his financial position is about the value of his Tesla 0:19:48.359 --> 0:19:52.200 stock everything. And I think if you end up where 0:19:52.520 --> 0:19:56.399 Elon's waking up in the morning and saying, ah, crap, now, 0:19:56.680 --> 0:19:59.960 it's starting to get tighter and smaller my margin of error, 0:20:00.080 --> 0:20:02.800 and I could be fucked. I could lose Starlink, I 0:20:02.800 --> 0:20:07.040 could lose SpaceX, I could lose all this financial leverage 0:20:07.040 --> 0:20:11.600 I've had over so many Republican members of the House 0:20:11.640 --> 0:20:12.199 and the Senate. 0:20:12.480 --> 0:20:13.000 Yeah. 0:20:13.200 --> 0:20:16.280 No, it's a really good point, Rick Wilson, do you 0:20:16.280 --> 0:20:18.919 think Democrats should have a new Senate leadership? 0:20:19.119 --> 0:20:19.600 Yes? I do. 0:20:19.800 --> 0:20:20.919 And who do you think it should be? 0:20:21.119 --> 0:20:22.960 I don't know who it should be, but Chuck Schumer 0:20:23.040 --> 0:20:25.720 is not a wartime consigliary, and we need a wartime 0:20:25.720 --> 0:20:26.680 consiguliary right. 0:20:26.600 --> 0:20:30.080 Now, Rick Wilson, will you come back always? 0:20:31.160 --> 0:20:31.560 You know me? 0:20:33.720 --> 0:20:38.120 Tree Crowder is a comedian whose new special, Trash Daddy 0:20:38.320 --> 0:20:40.719 is out on YouTube right now. 0:20:41.359 --> 0:20:44.080 Welcome to Fast Politics. 0:20:44.160 --> 0:20:46.000 Try Yeah, glad to be here. 0:20:46.359 --> 0:20:49.760 So explain to us how you got to be the 0:20:49.840 --> 0:20:53.240 liberal redneck and your origin story, as we. 0:20:53.119 --> 0:20:55.720 Say, yeah, well, for that, you got to go back 0:20:55.760 --> 0:21:00.000 to the mid nineties rural Tennessee place called Clay County. 0:21:00.000 --> 0:21:02.520 There's no traffic lights for McDonald's in Clay County where 0:21:02.520 --> 0:21:04.960 I grew up. 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