1
00:00:00,160 --> 00:00:04,880
Speaker 1: I was donkey up to today time. Damn that he hog.

2
00:00:06,400 --> 00:00:10,240
Speaker 2: It's turned the donkey I mean trying to be donkey today.

3
00:00:10,280 --> 00:00:10,559
Speaker 2: No more.

4
00:00:10,640 --> 00:00:12,840
Speaker 3: They should be embarrassed by what they already did. I'm

5
00:00:12,840 --> 00:00:14,200
Speaker 3: not making new people do these days.

6
00:00:14,160 --> 00:00:17,000
Speaker 4: Called donkey of the day, and it really caught me

7
00:00:17,040 --> 00:00:17,599
Speaker 4: off guard.

8
00:00:17,720 --> 00:00:21,160
Speaker 1: Damn Charlamagne, who got the donkey out of day today?

9
00:00:23,880 --> 00:00:26,520
Speaker 3: Yes, donkey today for Monday, July twenty fourth, because it

10
00:00:26,560 --> 00:00:30,120
Speaker 3: goes to Judge Tracy Sworderscrum. She is a Lincoln County

11
00:00:30,160 --> 00:00:32,919
Speaker 3: District judge in Oklahoma. I am convinced I said her

12
00:00:33,280 --> 00:00:36,479
Speaker 3: last name wrong, and I am convinced that society is

13
00:00:36,520 --> 00:00:39,519
Speaker 3: as unseious as it's ever been my whole life. I

14
00:00:39,600 --> 00:00:42,680
Speaker 3: was told art reflect reality, and maybe because I'm older,

15
00:00:42,720 --> 00:00:44,879
Speaker 3: I'm seeing more of the nonsense. But it seems to

16
00:00:44,960 --> 00:00:48,040
Speaker 3: me things that were once regulated to just TV shows

17
00:00:48,080 --> 00:00:50,480
Speaker 3: and movies are actually happening in real life.

18
00:00:50,560 --> 00:00:52,280
Speaker 2: Remember when in certain.

19
00:00:51,960 --> 00:00:55,120
Speaker 3: Films the TV shows they would show courtroom scenes and

20
00:00:55,160 --> 00:00:58,520
Speaker 3: the judge was like, you know, looking at pawn or

21
00:00:58,560 --> 00:01:01,480
Speaker 3: shopping for furniture, just anything other than paying attention to

22
00:01:01,520 --> 00:01:05,039
Speaker 3: the actual case. Well, America, we have reached that point

23
00:01:05,080 --> 00:01:08,040
Speaker 3: where that is actually happening in our courtrooms. Maybe it's

24
00:01:08,080 --> 00:01:10,760
Speaker 3: always been happening, I don't know, But nowadays, since Big

25
00:01:10,800 --> 00:01:13,760
Speaker 3: Brother is always watching, folks is getting caught. And that's

26
00:01:13,760 --> 00:01:16,760
Speaker 3: what happened to Judge Tracy Soda scrim She was presiding

27
00:01:16,800 --> 00:01:19,400
Speaker 3: over the case of a man charged in the beating

28
00:01:19,480 --> 00:01:23,440
Speaker 3: death of his girlfriend's son. Well, during the opening statements

29
00:01:23,440 --> 00:01:25,760
Speaker 3: and testimony, the judge wasn't paying attention. The judge wasn't

30
00:01:25,760 --> 00:01:27,959
Speaker 3: paying attention throughout the whole case. The judge wasn't given

31
00:01:28,000 --> 00:01:31,200
Speaker 3: a good devil damn about what was going on in

32
00:01:31,200 --> 00:01:31,800
Speaker 3: that courtroom.

33
00:01:32,120 --> 00:01:33,080
Speaker 2: Let's go to the news report.

34
00:01:33,120 --> 00:01:37,360
Speaker 5: Plae District Judge Tracy Soderstrom is accused of using her

35
00:01:37,480 --> 00:01:40,760
Speaker 5: cell phone for entertainment during a trial last month. That

36
00:01:40,920 --> 00:01:43,199
Speaker 5: trial was over the murder of a two year old

37
00:01:43,240 --> 00:01:47,280
Speaker 5: little boy. Surveillance video from inside the courtroom leaked to

38
00:01:47,319 --> 00:01:51,000
Speaker 5: the Oklahoma A former judge and current attorney, Tracy Schumacher

39
00:01:51,040 --> 00:01:54,160
Speaker 5: told KOCO Today using a phone or email during a

40
00:01:54,200 --> 00:01:57,960
Speaker 5: trial is normal for judges and lawyers, but this footage

41
00:01:57,960 --> 00:02:00,440
Speaker 5: shows the judge using the cell phone for a purpose

42
00:02:00,560 --> 00:02:03,559
Speaker 5: that didn't have to do with the trial. She also said,

43
00:02:03,600 --> 00:02:07,160
Speaker 5: for judges like Soderstrom. Herre coming from private practice to

44
00:02:07,240 --> 00:02:09,760
Speaker 5: the bench. There's a learning curve, and while this is

45
00:02:09,840 --> 00:02:12,600
Speaker 5: quote a bump in the road, she's hopeful she can

46
00:02:12,680 --> 00:02:15,880
Speaker 5: overcome it in her judicial career and continue to serve

47
00:02:15,919 --> 00:02:17,480
Speaker 5: the citizens of Lincoln County.

48
00:02:18,320 --> 00:02:22,840
Speaker 3: Judge Tracy Solderscrum was busy checking Facebook during the trial.

49
00:02:23,800 --> 00:02:25,120
Speaker 2: This is true. This happened.

50
00:02:25,160 --> 00:02:28,080
Speaker 3: She was texting and scrolling through social media while this

51
00:02:28,160 --> 00:02:31,080
Speaker 3: man was on trial for beating his girlfriend's son to

52
00:02:31,120 --> 00:02:33,800
Speaker 3: death allegedly. Okay, at one point, the judge was seen

53
00:02:33,919 --> 00:02:35,239
Speaker 3: searching for a gift.

54
00:02:36,200 --> 00:02:37,720
Speaker 2: Let me tell you something, man, If the.

55
00:02:37,760 --> 00:02:40,399
Speaker 3: Judge is doing all that during your trial, trust and believe,

56
00:02:40,560 --> 00:02:42,680
Speaker 3: then mine has already made up. All right, you going

57
00:02:42,720 --> 00:02:45,040
Speaker 3: to prison. This is all just formalities, all right. The

58
00:02:45,120 --> 00:02:47,440
Speaker 3: judge is just there so they don't get fine. Now,

59
00:02:47,480 --> 00:02:49,960
Speaker 3: I would assume that's not how a judge is supposed

60
00:02:50,000 --> 00:02:52,160
Speaker 3: to move. I would assume a judge's job is to

61
00:02:52,200 --> 00:02:55,480
Speaker 3: not be biased, to not have any preconceived notions about

62
00:02:55,480 --> 00:02:57,920
Speaker 3: the case, to actually listen to the evidence presented.

63
00:02:58,400 --> 00:03:01,120
Speaker 2: But you can't do any of that. You scrolling Facebook.

64
00:03:01,480 --> 00:03:03,560
Speaker 3: And I heard the news reports say that it's you know,

65
00:03:03,680 --> 00:03:05,560
Speaker 3: fine for judges to be on the phone.

66
00:03:05,600 --> 00:03:07,840
Speaker 2: I don't want my judge on the phone during my trial.

67
00:03:08,000 --> 00:03:10,800
Speaker 3: Okay, what if the judge is searching conversations about the

68
00:03:10,840 --> 00:03:14,320
Speaker 3: case and it's basing what you know they believe off

69
00:03:14,360 --> 00:03:15,920
Speaker 3: what the comments are saying.

70
00:03:16,440 --> 00:03:18,680
Speaker 2: Okay, Look, the trial ended in a.

71
00:03:18,600 --> 00:03:22,920
Speaker 3: Second degree manslaughter conviction, but prosecutors had asked jurors to find.

72
00:03:22,760 --> 00:03:24,360
Speaker 2: Him guilty of first degree murdered.

73
00:03:24,720 --> 00:03:27,560
Speaker 3: Let me tell you something, man, Jurors are banned from

74
00:03:27,600 --> 00:03:30,280
Speaker 3: using cell phones in the courtroom during trials because we

75
00:03:30,320 --> 00:03:32,880
Speaker 3: want them to be present all their time and attention

76
00:03:32,919 --> 00:03:35,680
Speaker 3: should be on the evidence being presented. Shouldn't the damned

77
00:03:35,800 --> 00:03:39,480
Speaker 3: judge be held to the same standard, if not higher.

78
00:03:39,640 --> 00:03:42,120
Speaker 3: A whole case going on and the judges just sitting

79
00:03:42,160 --> 00:03:44,680
Speaker 3: there with the phone in her lapping below the top

80
00:03:44,720 --> 00:03:47,600
Speaker 3: of the judges bench while using it. Aldie said she

81
00:03:47,600 --> 00:03:49,320
Speaker 3: would put it in an open drawer. And now, look,

82
00:03:49,400 --> 00:03:51,680
Speaker 3: some people can multitask, right. I don't know if it's

83
00:03:51,680 --> 00:03:53,280
Speaker 3: illegal for a judge to be on their phone during

84
00:03:53,280 --> 00:03:54,760
Speaker 3: the trial or not, but it's some things that just

85
00:03:54,800 --> 00:03:58,720
Speaker 3: don't seem right ethically. Imagine a doctor tweeting while doing

86
00:03:58,720 --> 00:04:01,560
Speaker 3: some type of surgery on you imagine getting a colonoscopy

87
00:04:02,320 --> 00:04:04,200
Speaker 3: and then watching the tape back and they're paying more

88
00:04:04,240 --> 00:04:07,400
Speaker 3: attention to means than actually probing what's in your ass?

89
00:04:07,840 --> 00:04:10,120
Speaker 3: Why you go there though, because I want you to

90
00:04:10,200 --> 00:04:11,760
Speaker 3: understand you've had a colonoscopy.

91
00:04:11,840 --> 00:04:12,840
Speaker 2: I've had a colonoscopy.

92
00:04:12,880 --> 00:04:14,640
Speaker 3: Can you imagine if you watch the tape back and

93
00:04:14,680 --> 00:04:17,080
Speaker 3: you saw the judges on Instagram laughing.

94
00:04:16,920 --> 00:04:18,440
Speaker 2: Why they supposed to be paying attention to what's going

95
00:04:18,440 --> 00:04:18,960
Speaker 2: on your button?

96
00:04:18,960 --> 00:04:20,640
Speaker 6: But y'all both have been to the dentists too. While

97
00:04:20,640 --> 00:04:22,479
Speaker 6: you ain't go there, damn right, you could have win, Dennis.

98
00:04:22,839 --> 00:04:24,800
Speaker 6: You could wear so many places, but the factor is

99
00:04:24,880 --> 00:04:25,799
Speaker 6: straight to the butt.

100
00:04:27,560 --> 00:04:29,600
Speaker 3: Now, there is such a thing called a Code of

101
00:04:29,680 --> 00:04:32,400
Speaker 3: Judicial Conduct, which states the judge shall act at all

102
00:04:32,520 --> 00:04:35,720
Speaker 3: times in a manner that promotes public confidence in the independence,

103
00:04:35,760 --> 00:04:38,360
Speaker 3: integrity and impartial impartiak.

104
00:04:37,960 --> 00:04:41,160
Speaker 2: What's the words learning impartiality, Yes, of the judiciary? Okay.

105
00:04:41,400 --> 00:04:44,159
Speaker 3: The code does not specifically mentioned the use of mobile

106
00:04:44,200 --> 00:04:46,560
Speaker 3: phones though, so technically we don't even know if the

107
00:04:46,640 --> 00:04:50,840
Speaker 3: judge did something wrong. Look, man, it's over, okay. Machines

108
00:04:51,080 --> 00:04:54,160
Speaker 3: are man machines versus man. The machines of one. Okay,

109
00:04:54,240 --> 00:04:56,400
Speaker 3: in a few years, judges are gonna be AI anyway,

110
00:04:56,560 --> 00:04:58,919
Speaker 3: So it doesn't even matter if judges can't help but

111
00:04:59,040 --> 00:05:01,640
Speaker 3: be distracted by smart phones, what hope.

112
00:05:01,440 --> 00:05:02,520
Speaker 2: Is it for the rest of us?

113
00:05:02,839 --> 00:05:05,480
Speaker 3: Please give just Tracy Sowder scrim the sweet sound to

114
00:05:05,480 --> 00:05:06,160
Speaker 3: the Hamiltons.

115
00:05:06,560 --> 00:05:15,000
Speaker 1: Oh no, you are the doggy of the day, the

116
00:05:15,320 --> 00:05:19,720
Speaker 1: dog all the day.

117
00:05:20,000 --> 00:05:26,080
Speaker 7: Ye, all right, thank you for that donkey today, sir, Yes, indeed,

118
00:05:26,240 --> 00:05:27,039
Speaker 7: all right, b E T.

119
00:05:27,160 --> 00:05:29,000
Speaker 1: We'll see tomorrow, Lawrence, say piece to BT.

120
00:05:28,960 --> 00:05:29,800
Speaker 4: See you later, BT.

121
00:05:30,680 --> 00:05:33,480
Speaker 7: Everybody else, let's open up the phone lines. Eight hundred

122
00:05:33,640 --> 00:05:36,640
Speaker 7: five eight five one five one. Let's just ask has

123
00:05:36,720 --> 00:05:39,760
Speaker 7: being on your phone at work ever got you in trouble?

124
00:05:40,240 --> 00:05:42,760
Speaker 1: That is the question. Eight hundred five eight five.

125
00:05:42,560 --> 00:05:45,000
Speaker 7: One oh five to one. Have you ever been on

126
00:05:45,120 --> 00:05:48,159
Speaker 7: the phone? I know one time I was. I was

127
00:05:48,200 --> 00:05:51,200
Speaker 7: bidding for a car while I was DJing, and I

128
00:05:51,279 --> 00:05:53,200
Speaker 7: was so into the bid I forgot that the record

129
00:05:53,240 --> 00:05:55,240
Speaker 7: was on, and the records just stopped and then it

130
00:05:55,360 --> 00:05:57,600
Speaker 7: was just dead head people just looking at me crazy.

131
00:05:57,600 --> 00:05:59,240
Speaker 1: But I and I ain't even win the bid on

132
00:05:59,320 --> 00:06:01,200
Speaker 1: the car. Has that happened to you?

133
00:06:01,279 --> 00:06:02,960
Speaker 7: Have you ever been on the phone at work and

134
00:06:03,000 --> 00:06:04,279
Speaker 7: it's ever got you in trouble?

135
00:06:04,400 --> 00:06:04,679
Speaker 1: Lauren?

136
00:06:05,000 --> 00:06:08,360
Speaker 4: Yes, I was on my phone during that.

137
00:06:08,880 --> 00:06:10,919
Speaker 6: When I first started with TMZ, I did the TMZ tours,

138
00:06:11,279 --> 00:06:12,720
Speaker 6: I was on my phone on their tour bus and

139
00:06:12,720 --> 00:06:15,960
Speaker 6: I'm in the group chat with my cousins, and my

140
00:06:16,000 --> 00:06:18,760
Speaker 6: cousin then let me know that my boyfriend at the

141
00:06:18,800 --> 00:06:21,720
Speaker 6: time or we were like in a situation ship I

142
00:06:21,760 --> 00:06:23,440
Speaker 6: don't know, but we've been together for some time had

143
00:06:23,440 --> 00:06:25,120
Speaker 6: a baby on the way by her best friend. So

144
00:06:25,160 --> 00:06:27,880
Speaker 6: I literally broke down in tears, could not finish the tour.

145
00:06:27,920 --> 00:06:29,880
Speaker 6: People were looking at me like I was crazy. We

146
00:06:29,880 --> 00:06:31,719
Speaker 6: were mid tour, they had to reroute the bus, and

147
00:06:31,760 --> 00:06:34,239
Speaker 6: I was like, I will never in my life ever

148
00:06:34,520 --> 00:06:37,599
Speaker 6: engage in conversation while I'm at work on the phone

149
00:06:37,839 --> 00:06:39,760
Speaker 6: anything like that with family members.

150
00:06:40,160 --> 00:06:42,600
Speaker 2: With the bus store. That's a great TMZ story.

151
00:06:42,320 --> 00:06:44,280
Speaker 4: I could do.

152
00:06:44,320 --> 00:06:47,960
Speaker 6: You understand how my heart was in my like it

153
00:06:48,040 --> 00:06:50,040
Speaker 6: was at the bottom of my feet, Like I could

154
00:06:50,080 --> 00:06:53,560
Speaker 6: barely speak, Like they thought that like something happen. I

155
00:06:53,560 --> 00:06:55,360
Speaker 6: think they thought like somebody died, Like that's how bad

156
00:06:55,520 --> 00:06:57,200
Speaker 6: I was, like slide down the wall, ugly cry.

157
00:06:57,360 --> 00:06:59,960
Speaker 2: What did you call your boyfriend? What did I when

158
00:07:00,160 --> 00:07:01,440
Speaker 2: When did you call him to confirm?

159
00:07:01,920 --> 00:07:02,080
Speaker 1: Oh?

160
00:07:02,120 --> 00:07:03,400
Speaker 4: No, I knew it was it was my cousin. I

161
00:07:03,440 --> 00:07:05,120
Speaker 4: knew it was true. Like, you know what I mean,

162
00:07:05,320 --> 00:07:06,080
Speaker 4: how do you break up?

163
00:07:06,080 --> 00:07:06,680
Speaker 2: You and the boyfriend?

164
00:07:07,480 --> 00:07:09,520
Speaker 4: It was bad. We ended up getting back together. But

165
00:07:09,560 --> 00:07:10,520
Speaker 4: you're not together no more.

166
00:07:10,920 --> 00:07:12,840
Speaker 2: Oh you got back together, so you're gonna be step mama.

167
00:07:13,240 --> 00:07:16,560
Speaker 6: I was per bit, I was, you know, but it

168
00:07:16,840 --> 00:07:21,400
Speaker 6: was rough. It was a rough transition into yeah.

169
00:07:20,800 --> 00:07:27,800
Speaker 1: Jesus, all right, m hm, last, what's wrong with you?

170
00:07:31,880 --> 00:07:33,760
Speaker 3: I was gonna say, what a king? But I was

171
00:07:33,800 --> 00:07:35,239
Speaker 3: just doing that.

172
00:07:36,120 --> 00:07:38,920
Speaker 6: You really you really want me to get crazy?

173
00:07:38,920 --> 00:07:40,240
Speaker 4: I don't know why do you want me to get crazy?

174
00:07:40,360 --> 00:07:40,800
Speaker 1: Here today?

175
00:07:42,600 --> 00:07:47,560
Speaker 4: Way, King? You have daughters, I'm playing Lauren.

176
00:07:50,280 --> 00:07:52,240
Speaker 1: Do you want this for your four daughters?

177
00:07:52,720 --> 00:07:54,680
Speaker 3: But she got back with him, so clearly he has

178
00:07:54,720 --> 00:07:56,400
Speaker 3: some redeeming quality eight hundred five.

179
00:08:02,440 --> 00:08:07,600
Speaker 4: I like been there. Christ, ladies, sweetly, if you got

180
00:08:07,640 --> 00:08:09,640
Speaker 4: back with the d this.

181
00:08:09,560 --> 00:08:11,600
Speaker 2: Might be a better conversation than the fore word.

182
00:08:11,840 --> 00:08:12,880
Speaker 1: Let's let's save this up.

183
00:08:13,120 --> 00:08:15,440
Speaker 3: Lord, this might be a better conversation. I'm being honest

184
00:08:15,480 --> 00:08:17,760
Speaker 3: with you because you're not the only woman who's been

185
00:08:17,800 --> 00:08:18,400
Speaker 3: in this situation.

186
00:08:18,480 --> 00:08:19,680
Speaker 2: No, I'm not. You know what I'm saying.

187
00:08:19,720 --> 00:08:21,800
Speaker 3: You've been with a man and you love you like

188
00:08:21,880 --> 00:08:23,920
Speaker 3: this man, and this man cheats on you, ends up

189
00:08:23,920 --> 00:08:26,240
Speaker 3: having a baby with somebody else, get somebody else pregnant,

190
00:08:26,240 --> 00:08:27,280
Speaker 3: but you decided to stay.

191
00:08:27,040 --> 00:08:28,960
Speaker 7: With Have you ever went back to the d even

192
00:08:29,000 --> 00:08:31,040
Speaker 7: though you had a you was a step mom, That's

193
00:08:31,080 --> 00:08:31,720
Speaker 7: that's what you're asking.

194
00:08:31,760 --> 00:08:33,640
Speaker 2: Did you ever get to be step mama? She said, yeah.

195
00:08:33,640 --> 00:08:35,560
Speaker 6: I mean, but he also he already had a child

196
00:08:35,679 --> 00:08:37,719
Speaker 6: me and himma had We've been together for ten years

197
00:08:37,760 --> 00:08:38,160
Speaker 6: at this point.

198
00:08:38,200 --> 00:08:41,320
Speaker 4: I mean at that point it was like probably seven eight.

199
00:08:42,000 --> 00:08:43,640
Speaker 6: We went to high school together, so he already had

200
00:08:43,640 --> 00:08:45,360
Speaker 6: a child when I met him, So the stepmom thing

201
00:08:45,480 --> 00:08:48,679
Speaker 6: wasn't an issue or a game changer for me. We

202
00:08:48,679 --> 00:08:51,000
Speaker 6: were in a weird situation. I moved to LA and

203
00:08:51,080 --> 00:08:52,600
Speaker 6: so you know, it was a little rocky.

204
00:08:52,640 --> 00:08:55,080
Speaker 2: It was like you needed a place to stay still up.

205
00:08:55,160 --> 00:08:59,160
Speaker 4: Man, I moved to LA by myself. He was stilling Delaware.

206
00:08:59,320 --> 00:09:00,400
Speaker 2: Oh gotcha.

207
00:09:00,640 --> 00:09:02,800
Speaker 6: Oh, you know, it got a little rocky, Like you know,

208
00:09:02,840 --> 00:09:05,400
Speaker 6: I'm dating people. We both lying to each other, so

209
00:09:05,440 --> 00:09:07,840
Speaker 6: I couldn't really be as mad. And I think that's

210
00:09:07,880 --> 00:09:09,680
Speaker 6: the only reason why I decided to go back because

211
00:09:09,679 --> 00:09:11,760
Speaker 6: if we were like committed, even though he was still lying,

212
00:09:12,040 --> 00:09:14,480
Speaker 6: if we were super committed and I my hands weren't dirty, two,

213
00:09:14,920 --> 00:09:16,760
Speaker 6: I would have been like, oh no, I'm good, So

214
00:09:16,840 --> 00:09:17,319
Speaker 6: let's pivot.

215
00:09:17,360 --> 00:09:18,320
Speaker 2: I want to hear some stories.

216
00:09:18,320 --> 00:09:21,960
Speaker 7: Eight hundred and five. Are you in a similar situation,

217
00:09:22,600 --> 00:09:25,360
Speaker 7: Maybe your man cheated on, you had a baby, went

218
00:09:25,360 --> 00:09:26,800
Speaker 7: back because the d was so good.

219
00:09:28,000 --> 00:09:28,679
Speaker 1: We want to hear from you.

220
00:09:28,800 --> 00:09:30,480
Speaker 7: Let me clear the lines, Let me clean the lines,

221
00:09:30,520 --> 00:09:31,920
Speaker 7: clear the lines, sclate the lines, clate the lines.

222
00:09:31,920 --> 00:09:32,120
Speaker 2: Club.

223
00:09:32,200 --> 00:09:34,240
Speaker 7: Oh okay, we'll take your calls when we come back.

224
00:09:34,280 --> 00:09:36,600
Speaker 7: Eight hundred and five eight five one five These kings, man,

225
00:09:36,600 --> 00:09:38,400
Speaker 7: you stupid. It's the Breakfast Uncle morning.

226
00:09:38,880 --> 00:09:40,000
Speaker 2: The Breakfast Club.

227
00:09:42,600 --> 00:09:44,720
Speaker 3: Donkey today is brought to you by the law office

228
00:09:44,720 --> 00:09:47,640
Speaker 3: of Michael s Lambinsoft. Don't be a donkey. Dob pound

229
00:09:47,640 --> 00:09:50,080
Speaker 3: two fifty on your cell and say the bull. If

230
00:09:50,120 --> 00:09:52,480
Speaker 3: you've been hurting a construction accident, that's pound two five

231
00:09:52,520 --> 00:09:54,120
Speaker 3: oh from your cell and say the bull.