1 00:00:16,079 --> 00:00:22,480 Speaker 1: Hey, hey, hey, ta cha cha we're black, we're brown, 2 00:00:22,840 --> 00:00:27,720 Speaker 1: and he hey, maanja. So I don't have corona, do you? 3 00:00:27,360 --> 00:00:31,319 Speaker 2: You know? TBD. It feels like at any moment, there's 4 00:00:31,360 --> 00:00:32,960 Speaker 2: just like this cloud of tension. I feel like for 5 00:00:33,000 --> 00:00:35,760 Speaker 2: the past three shows, we've been talking about coronavirus in 6 00:00:35,800 --> 00:00:38,240 Speaker 2: each week, it's just like the anxiety is a little 7 00:00:38,240 --> 00:00:41,240 Speaker 2: bit higher. People at my office are getting more anxious 8 00:00:41,280 --> 00:00:43,720 Speaker 2: about it. I live in the part of New York 9 00:00:43,760 --> 00:00:46,680 Speaker 2: where it's like ground zero where that guy has been 10 00:00:46,720 --> 00:00:49,840 Speaker 2: spreading it like he got around, okay, the busy lawyer, 11 00:00:49,920 --> 00:00:53,680 Speaker 2: the very busy lawyer with lots of friends. Someone at 12 00:00:53,720 --> 00:00:56,120 Speaker 2: my doctor's office contracted it. So I got an email 13 00:00:56,120 --> 00:00:58,920 Speaker 2: from them, No, that's funny. And I was just about 14 00:00:58,960 --> 00:01:00,800 Speaker 2: to go to the my Khanat and I was like, 15 00:01:00,880 --> 00:01:03,960 Speaker 2: let me not go to that appointment. And I still So, 16 00:01:04,040 --> 00:01:06,520 Speaker 2: I've been commuting to work a few days a week, 17 00:01:06,920 --> 00:01:09,840 Speaker 2: and I genuinely go nuts staying at home all day. 18 00:01:09,840 --> 00:01:12,720 Speaker 2: I don't like working from home. So I've been, you know, 19 00:01:12,800 --> 00:01:15,800 Speaker 2: going in three days a week, and you can feel 20 00:01:15,840 --> 00:01:18,399 Speaker 2: the tension on the subway. I take three trains, one 21 00:01:18,440 --> 00:01:20,959 Speaker 2: commuter train and then a couple of subways to get 22 00:01:20,959 --> 00:01:24,880 Speaker 2: to my office, and slowly but surely fewer people are 23 00:01:24,959 --> 00:01:28,360 Speaker 2: on the trains, and it's quiet. There's like this, there's 24 00:01:28,400 --> 00:01:30,440 Speaker 2: just like this tension in the air. And if and 25 00:01:30,440 --> 00:01:33,279 Speaker 2: if you're sitting next to someone who coughs or clears 26 00:01:33,319 --> 00:01:35,600 Speaker 2: their throat, you can see people like give them the 27 00:01:35,680 --> 00:01:39,360 Speaker 2: side eye, you can and it's just and you feel 28 00:01:39,480 --> 00:01:42,039 Speaker 2: like it just and no one's it's like no one's 29 00:01:42,040 --> 00:01:45,640 Speaker 2: barely breathing because they're afraid to breathe the air. It's 30 00:01:45,720 --> 00:01:49,440 Speaker 2: quite quite interesting as like a social experiment. It is 31 00:01:49,800 --> 00:01:52,160 Speaker 2: I and you know, Tiffany, you work at home. But 32 00:01:52,360 --> 00:01:55,400 Speaker 2: for those who have to commute, it has reached a 33 00:01:55,400 --> 00:01:58,920 Speaker 2: point where so, for example, my company finally sent out 34 00:01:59,320 --> 00:02:01,800 Speaker 2: a notice to employees. You know, we're not closing down 35 00:02:01,840 --> 00:02:06,000 Speaker 2: any offices, but it's hard for us to say you 36 00:02:06,000 --> 00:02:07,920 Speaker 2: can't work from home. It's about of course, we can 37 00:02:07,960 --> 00:02:09,840 Speaker 2: all work from home, you know, our jobs as writers 38 00:02:09,840 --> 00:02:12,280 Speaker 2: and editors. You can do that from a computer. So 39 00:02:12,400 --> 00:02:15,520 Speaker 2: it's pretty much up to the individual, you know, if 40 00:02:15,520 --> 00:02:18,120 Speaker 2: you want to come into work. It's and we're still 41 00:02:18,160 --> 00:02:21,160 Speaker 2: in that great area where it's like it's not it's 42 00:02:21,200 --> 00:02:22,880 Speaker 2: not like super I mean, New York is in a 43 00:02:22,919 --> 00:02:27,360 Speaker 2: state of emergency technically, but it's not at the point 44 00:02:27,360 --> 00:02:30,480 Speaker 2: where everyone is like self quarantine, you know, and it's 45 00:02:30,520 --> 00:02:32,000 Speaker 2: just staying like Italy. 46 00:02:32,280 --> 00:02:35,519 Speaker 1: Quarantine, you close the whole country. Yes, I just can't. 47 00:02:35,560 --> 00:02:37,919 Speaker 1: Even my mouth dropped open, like wait what. 48 00:02:38,440 --> 00:02:41,560 Speaker 2: And yeah Italy, I know everyone's reacting to that. I can't. 49 00:02:41,760 --> 00:02:43,480 Speaker 2: That would be scary. And it feels like New York 50 00:02:43,560 --> 00:02:45,840 Speaker 2: in and of itself is a country, like if it 51 00:02:45,880 --> 00:02:49,359 Speaker 2: were to shut down, I mean, i mean just businesses. 52 00:02:50,120 --> 00:02:53,640 Speaker 2: The impact too, small businesses would be great. If people 53 00:02:53,680 --> 00:02:56,480 Speaker 2: are just staying at home and not participating in the economy, 54 00:02:56,520 --> 00:02:59,240 Speaker 2: you know, there is that, uh, definitely a downside. And 55 00:02:59,280 --> 00:03:01,840 Speaker 2: then people who don't have a choice and who have 56 00:03:01,960 --> 00:03:03,760 Speaker 2: to go to work to make a living, you know, 57 00:03:03,800 --> 00:03:06,880 Speaker 2: if you're a waiter or you're a delivery person, you know, 58 00:03:07,160 --> 00:03:08,919 Speaker 2: or or just you work at any job where you 59 00:03:08,960 --> 00:03:10,200 Speaker 2: have to physically be present. 60 00:03:11,120 --> 00:03:13,640 Speaker 1: That's like my husband, he has to fit. He he's 61 00:03:13,680 --> 00:03:16,200 Speaker 1: a super so he can't. You can't do that from 62 00:03:16,440 --> 00:03:18,600 Speaker 1: your home, like things need to be fixed, like and 63 00:03:18,639 --> 00:03:20,800 Speaker 1: then you're thinking, I'm always thinking he's going from apartment 64 00:03:20,800 --> 00:03:24,280 Speaker 1: to apartment to apartment checking, you know, like ah, I 65 00:03:24,400 --> 00:03:27,079 Speaker 1: was just like, okay, I've just been really making him 66 00:03:27,520 --> 00:03:29,839 Speaker 1: wash your hands, washing hands, wash your hands, like more 67 00:03:29,880 --> 00:03:32,240 Speaker 1: than anything, like don't forget to wash your hands because 68 00:03:32,360 --> 00:03:37,400 Speaker 1: don't touch me face. Yes, because literally the the the 69 00:03:37,400 --> 00:03:40,040 Speaker 1: the apartments that he managed, it's three hundred units, So 70 00:03:40,080 --> 00:03:42,760 Speaker 1: just imagine how many people who's coming into contact with 71 00:03:42,960 --> 00:03:45,120 Speaker 1: on a regular basis. So it's definitely nerve wrecking. 72 00:03:45,480 --> 00:03:47,800 Speaker 2: Yeah, and for those of you who have jobs, I 73 00:03:47,840 --> 00:03:50,080 Speaker 2: mean you hope that you have. You know, my neighbor, 74 00:03:50,080 --> 00:03:53,080 Speaker 2: for example, she's a janitor at a public school system. 75 00:03:53,640 --> 00:03:57,480 Speaker 2: Oh someone's up my door. She's a janitor at a 76 00:03:57,480 --> 00:03:59,960 Speaker 2: public school system here that's been close is closing down 77 00:04:00,080 --> 00:04:01,880 Speaker 2: for the next two weeks. And I just chatted with her. 78 00:04:01,920 --> 00:04:04,480 Speaker 2: I saw her outside yesterday and I was like, Ms paullatte, 79 00:04:04,480 --> 00:04:06,520 Speaker 2: how you doing? And she told me the school was 80 00:04:06,520 --> 00:04:08,920 Speaker 2: closing down. And I was like, do you have paid 81 00:04:08,920 --> 00:04:12,160 Speaker 2: time off? And she said yes, thank god. Not everyone 82 00:04:12,240 --> 00:04:14,160 Speaker 2: is that lucky, though, if you know, if you live 83 00:04:14,240 --> 00:04:16,200 Speaker 2: off tips or you live in an hourly wage and 84 00:04:16,240 --> 00:04:18,840 Speaker 2: you don't have paid time off, So it's it's bringing 85 00:04:18,880 --> 00:04:22,520 Speaker 2: back that conversation of you know, people need sickly like 86 00:04:22,600 --> 00:04:25,159 Speaker 2: paid sick leavers, and you know, when things like this happen, 87 00:04:25,200 --> 00:04:28,520 Speaker 2: it's you feel so bad for families or people who 88 00:04:29,120 --> 00:04:31,839 Speaker 2: you know don't have a way to make an income. 89 00:04:31,960 --> 00:04:36,200 Speaker 2: So it's it's getting it's getting pretty scary. People at 90 00:04:36,240 --> 00:04:39,560 Speaker 2: my office have started to request to telecommute those who 91 00:04:39,600 --> 00:04:43,960 Speaker 2: have underlying health conditions because they say, if you're young 92 00:04:44,000 --> 00:04:46,800 Speaker 2: and healthy, generally, you know, you might get a mild case, 93 00:04:46,839 --> 00:04:50,520 Speaker 2: but if you have underlying respiratory issues or get older, 94 00:04:51,760 --> 00:04:55,240 Speaker 2: then you're more at risk of really having severe repercussions 95 00:04:55,240 --> 00:04:58,480 Speaker 2: if you contract it. So you know, and of course 96 00:04:58,600 --> 00:05:00,600 Speaker 2: you know, I think you got to do. Say first, 97 00:05:01,760 --> 00:05:03,960 Speaker 2: I did reach a point last night. I had to 98 00:05:03,960 --> 00:05:05,760 Speaker 2: talk to myself. So I went ahead and bought a 99 00:05:05,760 --> 00:05:08,719 Speaker 2: monthly pass for my train, which is not cheap, okay, 100 00:05:09,400 --> 00:05:12,280 Speaker 2: And I was like, I've honestly been going because I'm like, 101 00:05:12,279 --> 00:05:14,120 Speaker 2: I'm not gonna waste this train ticket. It was three 102 00:05:14,200 --> 00:05:17,320 Speaker 2: hundred dollars. But now I mean, I have a baby, 103 00:05:17,640 --> 00:05:20,600 Speaker 2: I can work from home. The governor has said if 104 00:05:20,640 --> 00:05:22,400 Speaker 2: you can work from home, you should work from home, 105 00:05:22,480 --> 00:05:26,040 Speaker 2: like all the experts say that, and my stubbornness has 106 00:05:26,080 --> 00:05:28,320 Speaker 2: really been about I don't like to be tied. I 107 00:05:28,360 --> 00:05:29,960 Speaker 2: don't want I want to be I just came back, 108 00:05:30,000 --> 00:05:32,240 Speaker 2: you know, I just got back commuting to work and 109 00:05:32,279 --> 00:05:35,080 Speaker 2: I enjoy it, but I think for my own safety 110 00:05:35,120 --> 00:05:37,680 Speaker 2: and for my my baby and my family, I am 111 00:05:37,680 --> 00:05:40,800 Speaker 2: going to start working from home in the near future. 112 00:05:41,480 --> 00:05:44,280 Speaker 2: So that's that's what I'm going to do. And I'm 113 00:05:44,320 --> 00:05:47,039 Speaker 2: not super excited about it. But it's just it's just 114 00:05:47,080 --> 00:05:50,120 Speaker 2: not worth like the anxiety and the risk of bringing 115 00:05:50,160 --> 00:05:54,080 Speaker 2: something home with me. No, no, it's not Yeah, and 116 00:05:54,160 --> 00:05:56,919 Speaker 2: markets continued to react. My husband was just texting me 117 00:05:56,960 --> 00:05:59,120 Speaker 2: this morning, like, ooh, the DAW's going back up. You 118 00:05:59,160 --> 00:05:59,839 Speaker 2: better buy stock. 119 00:06:00,320 --> 00:06:02,640 Speaker 1: Like meanwhile, yesterday was dismal. 120 00:06:03,080 --> 00:06:05,880 Speaker 2: I'm like, yesterday it was like what was it? What 121 00:06:05,920 --> 00:06:08,520 Speaker 2: was Someone tweeted, Oh crap, I forget that. It was 122 00:06:08,560 --> 00:06:11,640 Speaker 2: really really clever. It's like, don't anyway. The idea was 123 00:06:11,680 --> 00:06:13,480 Speaker 2: don't look at your four one k today, just you 124 00:06:13,560 --> 00:06:14,280 Speaker 2: don't look at it. 125 00:06:14,600 --> 00:06:16,760 Speaker 1: I didn't, like, I can't so what I've been doing, 126 00:06:16,800 --> 00:06:18,560 Speaker 1: because you know, I don't want to be totally like 127 00:06:18,560 --> 00:06:20,640 Speaker 1: like unaware, so what I'm not looking at my four 128 00:06:20,720 --> 00:06:22,880 Speaker 1: one k, but I you know how we like, I 129 00:06:22,880 --> 00:06:24,320 Speaker 1: don't know if you used robin Hood, but you know, 130 00:06:24,360 --> 00:06:25,880 Speaker 1: I buy like kind of like stocks. I don't want 131 00:06:25,920 --> 00:06:28,880 Speaker 1: to say for fun, but like, you know, like it's 132 00:06:28,920 --> 00:06:30,680 Speaker 1: not it's not a huge account, but I use that 133 00:06:30,720 --> 00:06:32,640 Speaker 1: as a gauge. I'm like, when I looked at my 134 00:06:32,720 --> 00:06:34,920 Speaker 1: robin Hood account and I see red red red red, 135 00:06:35,360 --> 00:06:38,360 Speaker 1: I'm like, ah, I lost two hundred dollars. But that's 136 00:06:38,480 --> 00:06:40,120 Speaker 1: just with like kind of like the play money I 137 00:06:40,200 --> 00:06:44,640 Speaker 1: used for stocks. So I've just been looking at that honestly. 138 00:06:46,040 --> 00:06:49,039 Speaker 1: Like yesterday, the market halted for fifteen minutes and I 139 00:06:49,160 --> 00:06:52,600 Speaker 1: was like what and I didn't. I'm like, I'd never 140 00:06:52,839 --> 00:06:54,680 Speaker 1: heard of such a thing, and I saw it was 141 00:06:54,720 --> 00:06:59,839 Speaker 1: my friend Tila, Tila Holcum, you know Tila trading Yep, yes, 142 00:07:00,240 --> 00:07:02,160 Speaker 1: and so I was like what. So I honestly have 143 00:07:02,279 --> 00:07:06,080 Speaker 1: been following Tela's page to like because she she trades 144 00:07:06,160 --> 00:07:07,919 Speaker 1: a full time for a living and teaches women how 145 00:07:07,960 --> 00:07:10,040 Speaker 1: to trade too, so she's really good at kind of 146 00:07:10,040 --> 00:07:13,360 Speaker 1: breaking down things like I remember she literally wrote She's 147 00:07:13,360 --> 00:07:15,040 Speaker 1: like I've been saying over and over it ain't time 148 00:07:15,080 --> 00:07:17,600 Speaker 1: to buy yet, and I'm like, okay, what does that mean? 149 00:07:18,160 --> 00:07:18,360 Speaker 2: You know? 150 00:07:18,560 --> 00:07:20,240 Speaker 1: And so I've just been following. So if you have 151 00:07:20,320 --> 00:07:23,920 Speaker 1: some folks that you trust to follow their pages and 152 00:07:24,120 --> 00:07:27,200 Speaker 1: ask questions, and she's doing a lot of educating, I 153 00:07:27,240 --> 00:07:29,400 Speaker 1: feel like she's like, it's showtime synergy. 154 00:07:29,480 --> 00:07:33,160 Speaker 2: You know. My whole thing has been when there's a 155 00:07:33,400 --> 00:07:36,360 Speaker 2: when there's a market downturn like this and stocks are falling, 156 00:07:36,400 --> 00:07:39,280 Speaker 2: I kind of I just say, it's a clearance sale. 157 00:07:39,320 --> 00:07:41,240 Speaker 2: You're getting things at a discount right now if you're 158 00:07:41,240 --> 00:07:43,960 Speaker 2: putting money in the market, And that's how you know, 159 00:07:44,040 --> 00:07:45,960 Speaker 2: And that's just how I sort of wrap my head 160 00:07:45,960 --> 00:07:48,400 Speaker 2: around it and my husband right now being like the 161 00:07:48,400 --> 00:07:50,360 Speaker 2: market's going up, we need to buy. That's just a 162 00:07:50,400 --> 00:07:53,600 Speaker 2: classic investor mistake is when you buy when things are 163 00:07:53,640 --> 00:07:55,760 Speaker 2: going up and you feel like you're in a miss out, 164 00:07:55,880 --> 00:07:57,720 Speaker 2: and then you sell when things go down, and then 165 00:07:57,760 --> 00:08:00,360 Speaker 2: you miss out when things go back up because you've 166 00:08:00,360 --> 00:08:02,720 Speaker 2: sold off. And you have to look at what history. 167 00:08:02,760 --> 00:08:06,560 Speaker 2: Now we have a very you know, near recent historical 168 00:08:06,600 --> 00:08:09,080 Speaker 2: example with the Great Recession of what happened to people 169 00:08:09,080 --> 00:08:11,440 Speaker 2: who got out of the market when things get scary 170 00:08:12,360 --> 00:08:14,680 Speaker 2: versus people who stayed in the market and those who 171 00:08:14,720 --> 00:08:18,200 Speaker 2: stayed in, and whether the storm were much better off 172 00:08:18,240 --> 00:08:20,600 Speaker 2: ten years later than those who took their money out 173 00:08:20,600 --> 00:08:21,080 Speaker 2: of the market. 174 00:08:21,720 --> 00:08:24,680 Speaker 1: And so Tila said this, which I thought was really like, 175 00:08:24,760 --> 00:08:27,400 Speaker 1: I think it's important to understand. She said, cash is 176 00:08:27,440 --> 00:08:31,440 Speaker 1: a position, right, and the best position if you don't 177 00:08:31,440 --> 00:08:33,480 Speaker 1: know what you're doing yet. So it does it make 178 00:08:33,520 --> 00:08:35,280 Speaker 1: sense for you to be in and out, in and out, 179 00:08:35,320 --> 00:08:37,400 Speaker 1: in and out unless you're willing to do the research 180 00:08:37,440 --> 00:08:40,040 Speaker 1: and the work of what it looks like to trade 181 00:08:40,160 --> 00:08:42,720 Speaker 1: during this time period. It's not because I'm like in 182 00:08:42,760 --> 00:08:44,480 Speaker 1: some group chats and everyone's like, I think I'm gonna 183 00:08:44,480 --> 00:08:45,920 Speaker 1: buy ad Visor. I think I'm gonna buy it, And 184 00:08:45,920 --> 00:08:48,640 Speaker 1: I'm like, if you want to have like a Stash 185 00:08:48,880 --> 00:08:51,400 Speaker 1: account or a Robinhood account for kind of like fun 186 00:08:51,480 --> 00:08:53,600 Speaker 1: and investing with a little bit of money here and there, 187 00:08:53,600 --> 00:08:57,080 Speaker 1: but money that you're willing to totally and completely lose, Okay, 188 00:08:57,480 --> 00:08:59,880 Speaker 1: but don't do that with your retirement account. Don't do 189 00:08:59,920 --> 00:09:01,760 Speaker 1: that ye with your with all the money you've saved 190 00:09:01,800 --> 00:09:04,679 Speaker 1: up for wealth, Like, now's not the time to experiment 191 00:09:04,720 --> 00:09:07,199 Speaker 1: if you haven't been doing the research. So, yeah, if 192 00:09:07,200 --> 00:09:08,680 Speaker 1: you want to buy a few stocks here and there 193 00:09:08,760 --> 00:09:10,679 Speaker 1: via these like you know, these kind of what I call, 194 00:09:10,760 --> 00:09:13,360 Speaker 1: like my fund accounts, Okay, but I now's not the 195 00:09:13,400 --> 00:09:15,600 Speaker 1: time to be jumping in and out of the market 196 00:09:15,840 --> 00:09:16,880 Speaker 1: not knowing what you're doing. 197 00:09:17,400 --> 00:09:19,400 Speaker 2: Yeah, And if you have, it's a good time to 198 00:09:19,480 --> 00:09:21,000 Speaker 2: have a financial This is when it's good to have 199 00:09:21,000 --> 00:09:24,400 Speaker 2: a financial planner or an investment advisor who you can 200 00:09:24,480 --> 00:09:27,160 Speaker 2: call and who can talk reason to you and just 201 00:09:27,320 --> 00:09:29,360 Speaker 2: you know, just share your ideas and how you're feeling 202 00:09:29,440 --> 00:09:32,280 Speaker 2: and then have them share their guidance and knowledge there. 203 00:09:32,559 --> 00:09:36,320 Speaker 2: So obviously, Tiffany and I are not financial experts, investment advisors, 204 00:09:36,320 --> 00:09:38,240 Speaker 2: financial planners. We're just we're just in it just like 205 00:09:38,280 --> 00:09:42,319 Speaker 2: you guys are, and seeing the same headlines and trying 206 00:09:42,360 --> 00:09:44,640 Speaker 2: to wrap our own heads around what's going on and 207 00:09:44,840 --> 00:09:49,000 Speaker 2: stop or stop your like emotional response to certain things. 208 00:09:49,679 --> 00:09:51,640 Speaker 2: My Yeah, the way that I'm getting through it is 209 00:09:51,640 --> 00:09:54,360 Speaker 2: just trying to ignore my accounts. They have gone down 210 00:09:54,400 --> 00:09:57,439 Speaker 2: before and they I imagine we'll come back up. It's 211 00:09:57,440 --> 00:10:00,000 Speaker 2: a whole different economy, the health of our We just 212 00:10:00,080 --> 00:10:03,280 Speaker 2: posted like a really big jobs report recently. The economy 213 00:10:03,320 --> 00:10:06,600 Speaker 2: overall is really strong. There will be a coronavirus vaccine 214 00:10:06,760 --> 00:10:09,240 Speaker 2: soon enough, you know, in the next year or so. Yeah, 215 00:10:09,240 --> 00:10:11,400 Speaker 2: it's twelve to eighteen months to get a vaccine. But 216 00:10:11,480 --> 00:10:14,160 Speaker 2: it's I trust that we have people who are developing one, 217 00:10:14,600 --> 00:10:18,160 Speaker 2: and I trust that our economy is relatively strong compared 218 00:10:18,200 --> 00:10:20,120 Speaker 2: even compared to us ten years ago. It was a 219 00:10:20,200 --> 00:10:23,520 Speaker 2: shit show ten years ago, So I really hope that's 220 00:10:23,520 --> 00:10:26,600 Speaker 2: that's my take on it. And other than that, just 221 00:10:27,400 --> 00:10:30,840 Speaker 2: wash your hands and don't touch your four one k Okay. 222 00:10:30,800 --> 00:10:32,800 Speaker 1: Don't touch your face or your full one cat. Wait, 223 00:10:33,520 --> 00:10:34,800 Speaker 1: oh my god, that was what the person. 224 00:10:35,120 --> 00:10:38,360 Speaker 2: It was like, your four one k is like your 225 00:10:38,360 --> 00:10:39,719 Speaker 2: face right now, don't touch it? 226 00:10:40,720 --> 00:10:40,920 Speaker 3: Oh? 227 00:10:40,960 --> 00:10:43,880 Speaker 1: I love it? Oh sorry, I might be stealing there 228 00:10:43,880 --> 00:10:46,560 Speaker 1: for my own from my own socials. No, but I 229 00:10:46,600 --> 00:10:46,920 Speaker 1: love that. 230 00:10:47,480 --> 00:10:50,400 Speaker 2: Yeah, all right, what else is going on? I mean, geez, 231 00:10:50,400 --> 00:10:54,000 Speaker 2: is anybody talking about anything besides coronavirus right now? 232 00:10:56,240 --> 00:10:56,800 Speaker 1: Oh? Go ahead? 233 00:10:56,960 --> 00:10:58,320 Speaker 2: What were you going to say? No? 234 00:10:58,360 --> 00:11:00,520 Speaker 1: There was like this really like it was kind of 235 00:11:00,520 --> 00:11:03,520 Speaker 1: like sad but ended up being much better. Like video 236 00:11:03,559 --> 00:11:06,480 Speaker 1: about this little girl who she's getting her hair retwisted. 237 00:11:06,520 --> 00:11:10,960 Speaker 1: She's super chocolate, little baby, super cute, and she is 238 00:11:11,000 --> 00:11:12,800 Speaker 1: getting her hair done and she's telling she told the 239 00:11:12,840 --> 00:11:15,400 Speaker 1: hairdresser she can't be more than four or five she 240 00:11:15,440 --> 00:11:17,760 Speaker 1: says no, but I'm ugly and said it's so matter 241 00:11:17,800 --> 00:11:20,640 Speaker 1: of fact. The hairdresser stopped in her tracks, and you 242 00:11:20,679 --> 00:11:24,480 Speaker 1: could tell she like gas was like what and turns 243 00:11:24,480 --> 00:11:26,400 Speaker 1: her around and lifts her face up, you know, and 244 00:11:26,440 --> 00:11:29,520 Speaker 1: proceeds to pour all this love and kindness into her 245 00:11:29,559 --> 00:11:32,040 Speaker 1: and tells her, like, you know, just how beautiful she is, 246 00:11:32,120 --> 00:11:34,480 Speaker 1: and like teases her because the little girls just starts 247 00:11:34,559 --> 00:11:37,360 Speaker 1: bawling and crying. I don't know if it was because 248 00:11:37,400 --> 00:11:41,600 Speaker 1: she could tell that the hairdresser was was upset, or 249 00:11:41,720 --> 00:11:44,240 Speaker 1: is she just like you know, whoever had told her 250 00:11:44,240 --> 00:11:47,800 Speaker 1: that It just I don't know, hit her in that moment. 251 00:11:48,080 --> 00:11:50,480 Speaker 1: So she's teasing her and telling her like, look, didn't 252 00:11:50,480 --> 00:11:51,920 Speaker 1: I tell you have two dimples? Do you know how 253 00:11:51,960 --> 00:11:55,360 Speaker 1: who has two dimples? Nobody? I don't even have two dimples. 254 00:11:55,360 --> 00:11:57,199 Speaker 1: And you know, it was just such a beautiful thing 255 00:11:57,240 --> 00:12:00,560 Speaker 1: to witness, especially because the hairdresser in the beginning is like, 256 00:12:00,559 --> 00:12:02,080 Speaker 1: I guess she must be talking to her son and 257 00:12:02,120 --> 00:12:03,599 Speaker 1: telling him, if you don't get out my face, I 258 00:12:03,640 --> 00:12:05,840 Speaker 1: don't even like kids. And then and then. 259 00:12:06,960 --> 00:12:10,040 Speaker 2: She just happened something else and then that interaction. 260 00:12:10,480 --> 00:12:12,719 Speaker 1: Yes, so I think, what happened was that I think 261 00:12:12,720 --> 00:12:14,559 Speaker 1: she was showing people like, this is how you twist hair, 262 00:12:14,960 --> 00:12:17,520 Speaker 1: and then she was doing like a tutorial, and then 263 00:12:17,600 --> 00:12:20,120 Speaker 1: that that happened. And when I tell you, the outpouring 264 00:12:20,160 --> 00:12:21,360 Speaker 1: of love for this little girl, I think her name 265 00:12:21,440 --> 00:12:24,920 Speaker 1: is like Arianna and the outpouring of love. Matthew Cherry, 266 00:12:24,920 --> 00:12:29,240 Speaker 1: the gentleman that won the Oscar for hair love that short. 267 00:12:29,960 --> 00:12:34,160 Speaker 1: He had rounded up a bunch of artists to create 268 00:12:34,440 --> 00:12:36,560 Speaker 1: pictures of her to send to her so she could 269 00:12:36,600 --> 00:12:39,400 Speaker 1: just see herself mm hmm. And then another friend of mine, 270 00:12:39,400 --> 00:12:43,680 Speaker 1: doctor Yaba Blay, She's got this awesome Instagram account called 271 00:12:43,720 --> 00:12:46,400 Speaker 1: professional Black Girl. You should follow it. It's just so uplifting. 272 00:12:46,920 --> 00:12:49,200 Speaker 1: And she rounded up a bunch of us that have 273 00:12:49,520 --> 00:12:53,680 Speaker 1: books that feature black characters so we can send her books, 274 00:12:53,720 --> 00:12:56,560 Speaker 1: so we're all on board to do that. It's just yeah, 275 00:12:58,000 --> 00:13:01,120 Speaker 1: it's just such a like a it's just such a 276 00:13:01,200 --> 00:13:03,520 Speaker 1: you know, I just can't believe that that happened, honestly. 277 00:13:03,360 --> 00:13:06,480 Speaker 2: Yeah, And little girls are so and it's sad. How 278 00:13:06,559 --> 00:13:10,280 Speaker 2: young I remember being like seven, you know, six seven 279 00:13:10,360 --> 00:13:14,000 Speaker 2: years old and feeling ugly, and who knows who gave 280 00:13:14,040 --> 00:13:16,400 Speaker 2: me that idea? And how you get that way. But 281 00:13:16,440 --> 00:13:18,679 Speaker 2: it's so sad how young it starts. And I feel 282 00:13:18,679 --> 00:13:21,400 Speaker 2: like it's so important for us to lift up those 283 00:13:21,400 --> 00:13:23,320 Speaker 2: little girls. You don't know what little girls are going 284 00:13:23,320 --> 00:13:26,840 Speaker 2: through in their minds, and it's just yeah, but that's 285 00:13:26,880 --> 00:13:28,720 Speaker 2: so sweet to hear that she got that, and think 286 00:13:28,760 --> 00:13:32,520 Speaker 2: about how many other little girls could use that same feedback. Yeah, 287 00:13:32,559 --> 00:13:34,200 Speaker 2: So if you know a little girl in your life, 288 00:13:34,280 --> 00:13:35,880 Speaker 2: just take your time, poor love. 289 00:13:35,920 --> 00:13:38,440 Speaker 1: And yeah, And now, I mean, of course you don't 290 00:13:38,440 --> 00:13:40,840 Speaker 1: want girl. It is that we don't want, like, you know, 291 00:13:40,880 --> 00:13:42,840 Speaker 1: you don't want little girls to focus on just looks. 292 00:13:42,840 --> 00:13:45,280 Speaker 1: But I think especially there is definitely a sector of 293 00:13:45,360 --> 00:13:49,880 Speaker 1: little girl that gets bombarded with you're not beautiful because 294 00:13:49,920 --> 00:13:53,439 Speaker 1: you're dark, because your hair is way curlier than others, 295 00:13:53,480 --> 00:13:56,040 Speaker 1: you know. And so although you know it's not our intention, 296 00:13:56,120 --> 00:13:58,240 Speaker 1: I think, you know, like to raise girls to be 297 00:13:58,320 --> 00:14:01,440 Speaker 1: super conscious of their looks, but there's an extra little 298 00:14:01,480 --> 00:14:04,160 Speaker 1: boost that some kids need because the whole world tells 299 00:14:04,200 --> 00:14:06,319 Speaker 1: you're ugly over and over and over and over again. 300 00:14:06,760 --> 00:14:08,680 Speaker 1: And the fact that she's like four or five and 301 00:14:08,840 --> 00:14:11,560 Speaker 1: she is claiming like I'm ugly, I just can't even 302 00:14:12,040 --> 00:14:14,040 Speaker 1: I'm just so happy, like I see, so like my 303 00:14:14,800 --> 00:14:18,480 Speaker 1: bonus daughter, Supergirl, she is like chocolate. She's probably two 304 00:14:18,520 --> 00:14:20,920 Speaker 1: or three shades darker than me, and like, you know, 305 00:14:21,240 --> 00:14:25,680 Speaker 1: super super tightly curled hair. And you can't tell Supergirl 306 00:14:25,720 --> 00:14:27,080 Speaker 1: that she is not the fly if we have been 307 00:14:27,120 --> 00:14:30,160 Speaker 1: pouring love into that little girl. I remember when she 308 00:14:30,280 --> 00:14:33,280 Speaker 1: was like seven or eight and she said, you know, 309 00:14:34,000 --> 00:14:35,960 Speaker 1: she called me Tiffy. You know, Tiffy, I figured out 310 00:14:35,960 --> 00:14:38,320 Speaker 1: why everybody at school wants to be my friend. And 311 00:14:38,360 --> 00:14:40,680 Speaker 1: I'm like why, she said, because I'm just so cute. 312 00:14:42,520 --> 00:14:43,800 Speaker 1: She had to be, like I said, like you know, 313 00:14:43,920 --> 00:14:46,320 Speaker 1: six or seven, and I just remember being blown away 314 00:14:46,320 --> 00:14:48,840 Speaker 1: because I didn't have that confidence because I thought I 315 00:14:48,920 --> 00:14:51,720 Speaker 1: was so black, and black was not a pretty color 316 00:14:51,760 --> 00:14:54,320 Speaker 1: for girls to be. And so just to see like 317 00:14:54,400 --> 00:14:56,600 Speaker 1: how her mom and her dad before I came, just 318 00:14:56,640 --> 00:14:59,080 Speaker 1: poured so much love into her that she walked with confidence. 319 00:14:59,240 --> 00:15:01,520 Speaker 1: And to this day, you know, she's as chocolate as 320 00:15:01,520 --> 00:15:04,160 Speaker 1: can be and just so beautiful and she owns that. 321 00:15:04,240 --> 00:15:06,120 Speaker 1: But that's not like, you know, she doesn't obsessed about 322 00:15:06,120 --> 00:15:09,160 Speaker 1: her looks, but she doesn't think that she's unattractive, you know, 323 00:15:09,280 --> 00:15:12,000 Speaker 1: And I just I just wish more kids grew up 324 00:15:12,080 --> 00:15:14,920 Speaker 1: with that pouring into because it's almost like you have 325 00:15:15,000 --> 00:15:17,560 Speaker 1: to solidify these kids against the world and what they're 326 00:15:17,600 --> 00:15:18,200 Speaker 1: going to receive. 327 00:15:18,880 --> 00:15:21,200 Speaker 2: Yeah, one hundred percent. Well thanks for sharing that story. 328 00:15:21,200 --> 00:15:21,920 Speaker 2: That's really sweet. 329 00:15:22,440 --> 00:15:22,920 Speaker 1: Yeah. 330 00:15:23,200 --> 00:15:25,680 Speaker 2: My other the other thing that people are talking a 331 00:15:25,720 --> 00:15:27,120 Speaker 2: lot about in light of the Corona, but one of 332 00:15:27,160 --> 00:15:29,080 Speaker 2: the like the silver linings. I feel kind of guilty 333 00:15:29,080 --> 00:15:32,960 Speaker 2: for saying that of the coronavirus has been Refinancing mortgages 334 00:15:33,240 --> 00:15:37,080 Speaker 2: has become another hot topic because mortgage rates are at 335 00:15:37,120 --> 00:15:39,360 Speaker 2: like rock bottom. They haven't been this low in a 336 00:15:39,480 --> 00:15:41,680 Speaker 2: long time. To If I know, you don't have a mortgage, 337 00:15:41,680 --> 00:15:44,640 Speaker 2: but for those of us who do, you may feel 338 00:15:44,800 --> 00:15:48,120 Speaker 2: the societal pressure to start looking into refinancing. And it's 339 00:15:48,120 --> 00:15:50,760 Speaker 2: not a bad idea, especially if you're you know, if 340 00:15:50,840 --> 00:15:52,960 Speaker 2: you locked in a rate a few years ago when 341 00:15:53,000 --> 00:15:54,560 Speaker 2: rates were a little bit higher than they are now, 342 00:15:55,040 --> 00:15:57,840 Speaker 2: I locked in my rate. I feel like late twenty seven, 343 00:15:57,920 --> 00:16:00,280 Speaker 2: no twenty eighteen, a couple years ago. Anyway, it was 344 00:16:00,320 --> 00:16:03,080 Speaker 2: like four point three seven five was my rate, and 345 00:16:03,120 --> 00:16:06,440 Speaker 2: now low low rates are like three point two and 346 00:16:06,760 --> 00:16:10,880 Speaker 2: apparently so many people are for letting mortgage lenders wanting 347 00:16:10,920 --> 00:16:13,560 Speaker 2: to refinance some of them aren't lowering their rates because 348 00:16:13,600 --> 00:16:16,840 Speaker 2: they can't handle the volume of like people coming at 349 00:16:16,840 --> 00:16:21,400 Speaker 2: them wanting to refinance. So I put our numbers and 350 00:16:21,640 --> 00:16:24,800 Speaker 2: the questions with refinancing, because you have to pay closing costs. Again, 351 00:16:25,080 --> 00:16:27,560 Speaker 2: it's like a brand new loan, you know, so you're 352 00:16:27,800 --> 00:16:30,840 Speaker 2: you know, for example, like in my state, they charge 353 00:16:30,840 --> 00:16:33,600 Speaker 2: like a one percent tax on the loan, and you 354 00:16:33,720 --> 00:16:36,000 Speaker 2: that's part of your closing costs. And that adds up 355 00:16:36,080 --> 00:16:38,080 Speaker 2: when you have a big mortgage, and you know, plus 356 00:16:38,160 --> 00:16:39,880 Speaker 2: the cost of like having an attorney and all that 357 00:16:39,960 --> 00:16:42,480 Speaker 2: kind of stuff. So we're weighing our options and then 358 00:16:42,520 --> 00:16:43,880 Speaker 2: you have to think how long are you going to 359 00:16:43,920 --> 00:16:47,040 Speaker 2: be in the house for. So I'm curious if any 360 00:16:47,040 --> 00:16:49,600 Speaker 2: of you guys out there have taken advantage of these 361 00:16:49,680 --> 00:16:52,600 Speaker 2: low interest rates and refinanced, and what was that process 362 00:16:52,680 --> 00:16:55,120 Speaker 2: like for you, because I'm I'm considering it and it 363 00:16:55,120 --> 00:16:57,480 Speaker 2: feels like there's a tick tick tick tic tic ticking clock. 364 00:16:57,960 --> 00:17:00,400 Speaker 2: You know, rates won't be this low forever. But trying 365 00:17:00,400 --> 00:17:03,360 Speaker 2: to take my time with that decision because you know, 366 00:17:03,440 --> 00:17:05,280 Speaker 2: it's it's a lot of money upfront, but then it's 367 00:17:05,320 --> 00:17:07,600 Speaker 2: also how long will we stay in this house for 368 00:17:08,000 --> 00:17:10,440 Speaker 2: and when will I save more by locking in a 369 00:17:10,480 --> 00:17:12,679 Speaker 2: lower interest rate because I could save us money on 370 00:17:12,720 --> 00:17:15,920 Speaker 2: our monthly mortgage payment. But when will the savings from 371 00:17:15,920 --> 00:17:19,000 Speaker 2: month to month add up to enough to make sense 372 00:17:19,040 --> 00:17:21,800 Speaker 2: for the upfront costs that will have to pay in 373 00:17:21,880 --> 00:17:25,879 Speaker 2: order to refinance. That is the question I actually used. 374 00:17:26,040 --> 00:17:29,800 Speaker 2: Lending Tree has a really cool refinance break even calculator 375 00:17:29,840 --> 00:17:31,720 Speaker 2: which shows you when you're going to break even. When 376 00:17:31,720 --> 00:17:35,720 Speaker 2: that point happens when you're savings outstrip you know the cost. 377 00:17:36,200 --> 00:17:37,720 Speaker 2: So I'll share a link to that in the show 378 00:17:37,720 --> 00:17:40,040 Speaker 2: notes if you guys are interested, but send us an 379 00:17:40,080 --> 00:17:43,200 Speaker 2: email at Brandanmbisson podcast at gmail dot com, or shoot 380 00:17:43,200 --> 00:17:46,560 Speaker 2: me a note on Instagram at brand Ambission podcast on 381 00:17:46,680 --> 00:17:50,120 Speaker 2: the Gram and let me know if you've refinanced, because 382 00:17:50,119 --> 00:17:51,200 Speaker 2: I'm very curious. 383 00:17:51,480 --> 00:17:53,159 Speaker 1: No, that is I mean my dad did that. I remember. 384 00:17:53,160 --> 00:17:54,960 Speaker 1: I was like, my dad, stay on it at seventy 385 00:17:54,960 --> 00:17:57,800 Speaker 1: something years old, not recently, but there was a dip 386 00:17:57,840 --> 00:18:01,040 Speaker 1: before and he refinanced and was able to. It was 387 00:18:01,080 --> 00:18:02,600 Speaker 1: gonna save him. I think I want to say, like 388 00:18:02,600 --> 00:18:04,520 Speaker 1: two hundred and fifty bucks a month, which is not 389 00:18:04,560 --> 00:18:06,240 Speaker 1: a little bit of money, especially when you're on a 390 00:18:06,320 --> 00:18:10,359 Speaker 1: fixed income as a retiree. So yeah, the thing is 391 00:18:10,640 --> 00:18:12,800 Speaker 1: with your finances, you just have to understand that you 392 00:18:12,840 --> 00:18:15,439 Speaker 1: have to be an active participant, you know, if you're 393 00:18:15,480 --> 00:18:17,080 Speaker 1: going to be on top of them. Gone are the days. 394 00:18:17,200 --> 00:18:18,880 Speaker 1: I don't know there were ever those days, but gone 395 00:18:18,880 --> 00:18:21,040 Speaker 1: are the days where you kind of don't have to 396 00:18:21,680 --> 00:18:25,000 Speaker 1: actively look at your investments, look at your interest rates, 397 00:18:25,000 --> 00:18:27,240 Speaker 1: look at I think we all have to be a 398 00:18:27,240 --> 00:18:30,520 Speaker 1: little bit more financially savvy in order to just be okay, 399 00:18:30,600 --> 00:18:32,639 Speaker 1: which is kind of scary. I'm not gonna lie in 400 00:18:32,720 --> 00:18:35,959 Speaker 1: order to just be okay. Like before, I felt like 401 00:18:36,080 --> 00:18:39,280 Speaker 1: maybe like twenty or thirty years ago, you could not 402 00:18:39,520 --> 00:18:42,040 Speaker 1: actively be a part and be like, well, I'm not 403 00:18:42,080 --> 00:18:44,360 Speaker 1: going to get it. I'm not gonna advance, but I'm 404 00:18:44,359 --> 00:18:45,240 Speaker 1: not gonna fall behind. 405 00:18:45,280 --> 00:18:47,040 Speaker 2: I'm going to get a fention and it's all going 406 00:18:47,119 --> 00:18:49,400 Speaker 2: to Yeah, and it's a whole different world now. 407 00:18:49,680 --> 00:18:52,639 Speaker 1: Yes, like you have to actively be a part of 408 00:18:52,680 --> 00:18:54,760 Speaker 1: it just to maintain status quo. 409 00:18:55,080 --> 00:18:58,000 Speaker 2: Yeah, and the world expects us to be financial experts, like, oh, 410 00:18:58,040 --> 00:19:01,920 Speaker 2: we created this really complex tax coo complex financial market, 411 00:19:02,000 --> 00:19:03,760 Speaker 2: so you guys just catch up and figure things out. 412 00:19:03,760 --> 00:19:05,199 Speaker 2: We're not gonna like tell you how to do it, 413 00:19:05,680 --> 00:19:07,520 Speaker 2: but you'll, you know, figure it out in your adult 414 00:19:07,560 --> 00:19:11,119 Speaker 2: ears somehow, No presh, But that's why we're here to 415 00:19:11,160 --> 00:19:13,760 Speaker 2: help you guys work through it. So continue sending us 416 00:19:13,800 --> 00:19:16,560 Speaker 2: your questions. And speaking of which, should we take a 417 00:19:16,600 --> 00:19:18,919 Speaker 2: quick break and come back and take some questions? 418 00:19:20,000 --> 00:19:20,600 Speaker 1: Yep, we should. 419 00:19:20,880 --> 00:19:57,439 Speaker 3: Fabulous and we're back my favorite segments. 420 00:19:58,640 --> 00:20:00,600 Speaker 2: Got some great questions from you guys. Again. You can 421 00:20:00,640 --> 00:20:03,520 Speaker 2: hit us up Brandhabission Podcast at gmail dot com or 422 00:20:03,640 --> 00:20:06,840 Speaker 2: paying us on Instagram. We're at Brannibision Podcast on the Gram. 423 00:20:07,240 --> 00:20:09,800 Speaker 2: We've got a couple of interesting questions, and we talked 424 00:20:09,840 --> 00:20:11,760 Speaker 2: a lot about investing lately. So let's start with a 425 00:20:11,880 --> 00:20:16,520 Speaker 2: question from wants to Go by MSW and her question 426 00:20:16,600 --> 00:20:19,720 Speaker 2: is about some stock that she purchased. Again, you guys, 427 00:20:19,720 --> 00:20:23,199 Speaker 2: we were not investment advisors obviously, or financial advisors, so 428 00:20:23,280 --> 00:20:25,359 Speaker 2: everything we talk about is just our own opinion and 429 00:20:25,400 --> 00:20:28,359 Speaker 2: how we would approach things. Of course, consult experts on 430 00:20:28,400 --> 00:20:31,720 Speaker 2: your own and don't come at us if things don't 431 00:20:31,760 --> 00:20:34,199 Speaker 2: work out. We're just sharing what we know feel in 432 00:20:34,240 --> 00:20:39,399 Speaker 2: the moment. Here is her question, So I love the podcast. Recently, 433 00:20:39,520 --> 00:20:43,200 Speaker 2: my position at my job was eliminated. At the time, 434 00:20:43,320 --> 00:20:46,119 Speaker 2: I've invested in stocks at my place of work at 435 00:20:46,119 --> 00:20:49,800 Speaker 2: a discounted price. I decided I don't want this stock anymore. 436 00:20:49,920 --> 00:20:52,960 Speaker 2: I've got around six thousand dollars in this stock, but 437 00:20:53,040 --> 00:20:55,880 Speaker 2: the stock is going down every moment. Should I sell 438 00:20:55,920 --> 00:20:58,480 Speaker 2: the stock and just get taxed or should I move 439 00:20:58,560 --> 00:21:01,639 Speaker 2: to another stock or mutual fund? Looking for some guidance 440 00:21:01,760 --> 00:21:05,200 Speaker 2: on this, So it sounds like she's talking about stock options, 441 00:21:05,240 --> 00:21:08,400 Speaker 2: which some employers I talked last week about RSUs restricted 442 00:21:08,440 --> 00:21:14,240 Speaker 2: stock units, which is a incentive that employers give their workers. 443 00:21:14,320 --> 00:21:16,280 Speaker 2: It's saying, you know, we'll give you some shares in 444 00:21:16,320 --> 00:21:19,960 Speaker 2: the company, and they're going to invest in a year, 445 00:21:20,000 --> 00:21:21,840 Speaker 2: which means in a year, you're going to get to, 446 00:21:22,040 --> 00:21:24,679 Speaker 2: you know, take advantage of that stock, sell it, trade it, whatever. 447 00:21:25,040 --> 00:21:26,880 Speaker 2: Stock options are a little bit different. It's like when 448 00:21:26,920 --> 00:21:29,879 Speaker 2: you are able to purchase your company's stock at a discount. 449 00:21:30,000 --> 00:21:32,200 Speaker 2: So it sounds like that's what she's done. She's got 450 00:21:32,240 --> 00:21:34,760 Speaker 2: six thousand dollars in the company stock, and like everyone 451 00:21:34,760 --> 00:21:37,200 Speaker 2: else right now, she's looking at her investments and watching 452 00:21:37,200 --> 00:21:40,480 Speaker 2: them go down, down, down, down down. So, Tiff, what 453 00:21:40,520 --> 00:21:42,240 Speaker 2: do you what do you think about this. 454 00:21:43,119 --> 00:21:46,560 Speaker 1: Well, here's the thing I do think. I like diversification 455 00:21:46,640 --> 00:21:51,840 Speaker 1: of investments, of obviously, and I don't think having a 456 00:21:51,840 --> 00:21:53,639 Speaker 1: ton of money and individual stocks is all with the 457 00:21:53,640 --> 00:21:55,800 Speaker 1: best idea I think, and the rule of thumb is 458 00:21:55,880 --> 00:21:57,840 Speaker 1: really you should not be more than five percent of 459 00:21:57,840 --> 00:22:01,520 Speaker 1: your total portfolio should be an individual stock. That being said, 460 00:22:01,840 --> 00:22:05,600 Speaker 1: the market is paley, that the market is paley, I 461 00:22:05,800 --> 00:22:09,439 Speaker 1: probably would wait until the market stabilizes because it's like 462 00:22:09,560 --> 00:22:13,520 Speaker 1: if you sell now when things are kind of crazy. 463 00:22:15,040 --> 00:22:16,880 Speaker 1: So here's the thing. I think that it's a good 464 00:22:16,960 --> 00:22:20,360 Speaker 1: idea to yes, sell the stock and diversify other places, right, 465 00:22:20,520 --> 00:22:22,639 Speaker 1: but I don't think it's a good idea to necessarily 466 00:22:22,680 --> 00:22:26,080 Speaker 1: do it now. I equate it to this, should you 467 00:22:26,160 --> 00:22:28,600 Speaker 1: renovate your house because it's going to give you a 468 00:22:28,600 --> 00:22:32,320 Speaker 1: better return, Absolutely, but not doing a hurricane like this 469 00:22:32,880 --> 00:22:37,960 Speaker 1: you hunker down, But yeah, wait until the hurricane passes 470 00:22:38,040 --> 00:22:41,160 Speaker 1: and then reevaluate your position as it relates to that stock. 471 00:22:41,440 --> 00:22:45,119 Speaker 1: So the answer is yes, but not right now. 472 00:22:45,400 --> 00:22:47,840 Speaker 2: Yeah, and what are the pros and cons? Like the 473 00:22:47,920 --> 00:22:51,359 Speaker 2: con of selling her stock right now is you're selling 474 00:22:51,400 --> 00:22:54,680 Speaker 2: when things are low. It's like we talked about earlier. 475 00:22:54,720 --> 00:22:57,400 Speaker 2: It's an emotional response to the market going down. People 476 00:22:57,440 --> 00:22:59,760 Speaker 2: wanted us to sell because things aren't working out for them, 477 00:23:00,160 --> 00:23:02,800 Speaker 2: But you could potentially miss out if when the market 478 00:23:02,800 --> 00:23:05,480 Speaker 2: goes back up. The tricky thing is when you're just 479 00:23:05,520 --> 00:23:08,919 Speaker 2: talking about one stock, it seems like every company is 480 00:23:08,920 --> 00:23:11,960 Speaker 2: being hit right now by the market downturn pretty you know, 481 00:23:12,080 --> 00:23:15,520 Speaker 2: much across the board, so it may not be Sometimes 482 00:23:15,560 --> 00:23:18,159 Speaker 2: stocks for companies fall because the management of the company 483 00:23:18,280 --> 00:23:21,719 Speaker 2: is you know, terrible, or someone quits high up at 484 00:23:21,720 --> 00:23:23,960 Speaker 2: the company and the market is reacting to that, or 485 00:23:24,440 --> 00:23:27,160 Speaker 2: the product that the company makes, you know, just got 486 00:23:27,160 --> 00:23:30,840 Speaker 2: recalled by the FDA or something like that, and that's 487 00:23:30,880 --> 00:23:33,720 Speaker 2: when the market will tank and the company itself is 488 00:23:33,760 --> 00:23:36,880 Speaker 2: getting hurt by that. But when you have like widespread 489 00:23:36,920 --> 00:23:39,960 Speaker 2: market downturn like right now and everyone's getting hit, it's 490 00:23:40,000 --> 00:23:43,399 Speaker 2: a little bit different. And you know, if you're whenever 491 00:23:43,440 --> 00:23:45,320 Speaker 2: you're investing in anyone company, you want to look at 492 00:23:45,320 --> 00:23:48,320 Speaker 2: the health of the company and do you think, okay, 493 00:23:48,359 --> 00:23:50,520 Speaker 2: the company is this is just a reaction to this 494 00:23:50,600 --> 00:23:54,640 Speaker 2: coronavirus mayhem right now, and generally the stock is pretty good, 495 00:23:54,720 --> 00:23:57,320 Speaker 2: so pretty strong, So you want to weather the storm 496 00:23:57,359 --> 00:24:00,600 Speaker 2: and wait things out. But like to, he said, in 497 00:24:00,640 --> 00:24:03,280 Speaker 2: a perfect world, you wouldn't want It's hard with that. 498 00:24:03,320 --> 00:24:05,119 Speaker 2: It's hard for us to know. You only say you 499 00:24:05,119 --> 00:24:07,880 Speaker 2: have six thousand dollars, and maybe that's fine because you've 500 00:24:07,920 --> 00:24:09,439 Speaker 2: got a bunch of money in your four one k 501 00:24:09,560 --> 00:24:13,040 Speaker 2: well diversified, or you've got a brokerage account well diversified, 502 00:24:13,040 --> 00:24:14,720 Speaker 2: and this is just six k on the side. But 503 00:24:14,760 --> 00:24:17,719 Speaker 2: it's hard for us to know without understanding like what 504 00:24:17,920 --> 00:24:22,760 Speaker 2: percentage of your overall investment this six thousand dollars is. 505 00:24:22,800 --> 00:24:24,560 Speaker 2: So it could be a pebble or it could be, 506 00:24:24,960 --> 00:24:27,159 Speaker 2: you know, a boulder in terms of size. 507 00:24:27,359 --> 00:24:29,560 Speaker 1: But what we do know right now is the market 508 00:24:29,600 --> 00:24:32,040 Speaker 1: is really crazy. It is so either way, even if 509 00:24:32,080 --> 00:24:34,760 Speaker 1: you're going to sell, I just don't it. Just to me, 510 00:24:34,840 --> 00:24:37,879 Speaker 1: it doesn't make sense to make a move during crazy times. 511 00:24:38,119 --> 00:24:40,800 Speaker 1: Yeah a big move, Yeah, gotcha? All right. 512 00:24:40,840 --> 00:24:44,120 Speaker 2: Well, if you're truly you know, wanting to know what's 513 00:24:44,160 --> 00:24:46,640 Speaker 2: best for you, again, without knowing your entire financial picture, 514 00:24:46,680 --> 00:24:49,280 Speaker 2: which we could never know, can't give you like specific 515 00:24:49,280 --> 00:24:51,600 Speaker 2: advice for not investment advisors, but maybe you want to 516 00:24:51,600 --> 00:24:54,119 Speaker 2: consult an expert to see what you should do with that. 517 00:24:54,359 --> 00:24:57,919 Speaker 2: But personally I'm with Tiffany in terms of I'm not 518 00:24:57,920 --> 00:24:59,760 Speaker 2: touching my own investments right now. I'm trying not to 519 00:24:59,760 --> 00:25:02,320 Speaker 2: look have like one eye open a little bit. But 520 00:25:02,520 --> 00:25:07,159 Speaker 2: I'm not making any hasty moves right now. And that 521 00:25:07,359 --> 00:25:08,880 Speaker 2: is anything else to add, Tiffany. 522 00:25:09,680 --> 00:25:12,520 Speaker 1: No, just you know, we are your financial girlfriends, not 523 00:25:12,560 --> 00:25:13,560 Speaker 1: your financial gurus. 524 00:25:14,440 --> 00:25:16,520 Speaker 2: All right, all right, well, thank you very much for 525 00:25:16,520 --> 00:25:20,600 Speaker 2: your question, Missy, and let's go to the gram where 526 00:25:20,600 --> 00:25:23,800 Speaker 2: we have an interesting question about someone another kind of 527 00:25:23,800 --> 00:25:28,600 Speaker 2: interesting relationship in finance predicament. This listener wants to remain anonymous, 528 00:25:28,600 --> 00:25:32,439 Speaker 2: which we shall respect, so let's call her. Why am 529 00:25:32,480 --> 00:25:35,280 Speaker 2: I thinking of Shirley? I don't know why. Sorry, that's 530 00:25:35,320 --> 00:25:43,440 Speaker 2: a terrible thing. At Shirley. I want Shary Lee. Maybe 531 00:25:43,480 --> 00:25:47,720 Speaker 2: we'll just call her Sharley. Okay, okay, Shirley. Hello. I've 532 00:25:47,720 --> 00:25:50,880 Speaker 2: been in a five year relationship with a financially intelligent man. 533 00:25:51,200 --> 00:25:53,600 Speaker 2: I have a great job as a budget manager, two 534 00:25:53,600 --> 00:25:57,320 Speaker 2: teenagers and one hundred thousand dollars in school loans and 535 00:25:57,400 --> 00:26:00,879 Speaker 2: twenty thousand dollars in credit card debt? Is it okay 536 00:26:00,880 --> 00:26:03,560 Speaker 2: to ask him to manage my finances until I get 537 00:26:03,600 --> 00:26:06,120 Speaker 2: out of debt? We're moving towards marriage, but I don't 538 00:26:06,160 --> 00:26:08,800 Speaker 2: want to get married with so much debt. Please don't 539 00:26:08,880 --> 00:26:13,439 Speaker 2: use my name. You got it, Sherley. Wow, so Cherry. 540 00:26:14,040 --> 00:26:15,560 Speaker 1: Now you know I'm not even here to do it 541 00:26:15,600 --> 00:26:18,600 Speaker 1: because I have definitely been six figures in debt, not 542 00:26:18,800 --> 00:26:22,359 Speaker 1: just with with mortgage, but like credit cards to the loans. 543 00:26:22,400 --> 00:26:28,480 Speaker 1: So I feel for you. Here's the thing, though, how 544 00:26:28,480 --> 00:26:31,560 Speaker 1: long have you all been dating? You have too? Oh well, 545 00:26:31,640 --> 00:26:34,240 Speaker 1: yeah that's pretty solid, but you have two kids. I'm 546 00:26:34,280 --> 00:26:39,280 Speaker 1: just slightly nervous about quote unquote letting him manage, meaning like, 547 00:26:39,359 --> 00:26:41,440 Speaker 1: are you going to be giving him your money every month? 548 00:26:42,520 --> 00:26:44,360 Speaker 1: What I do think, because this is what super Man 549 00:26:44,400 --> 00:26:46,000 Speaker 1: and I did when we were living together but we 550 00:26:46,000 --> 00:26:48,840 Speaker 1: were married, is that we would sit down every two 551 00:26:48,840 --> 00:26:51,720 Speaker 1: weeks and work on the financials together. That I think, 552 00:26:51,840 --> 00:26:54,679 Speaker 1: absolutely you should be doing that. But I feel a 553 00:26:54,760 --> 00:26:58,919 Speaker 1: little hesitant about kind of like giving someone access to 554 00:26:59,040 --> 00:27:02,000 Speaker 1: my financial the bank account, Like obviously Superman has all 555 00:27:02,040 --> 00:27:04,359 Speaker 1: the access now, but we're married. I would feel a 556 00:27:04,359 --> 00:27:07,600 Speaker 1: little hesitant about giving someone access to my all my 557 00:27:07,680 --> 00:27:10,439 Speaker 1: credit cards, my bank accounts and all of that. And 558 00:27:10,480 --> 00:27:15,720 Speaker 1: we're not married. So working together to get on financial track, yes, 559 00:27:16,119 --> 00:27:19,399 Speaker 1: having full access on my financials and I don't know 560 00:27:19,440 --> 00:27:19,919 Speaker 1: about all that. 561 00:27:20,600 --> 00:27:23,480 Speaker 2: Yeah, no, I agree, you're first of all, you're going 562 00:27:23,560 --> 00:27:25,600 Speaker 2: to have to really let's just assume that they have 563 00:27:25,680 --> 00:27:29,159 Speaker 2: great trust. He is aware of this debt and you 564 00:27:29,200 --> 00:27:33,480 Speaker 2: trust him implicitly and everything, and five years relationship, you know, 565 00:27:33,520 --> 00:27:36,080 Speaker 2: so you definitely know who he is by now. What 566 00:27:36,160 --> 00:27:38,639 Speaker 2: I would say is, if he's financially savvy and he 567 00:27:38,680 --> 00:27:40,960 Speaker 2: has strategies that he can coach you on and be 568 00:27:41,080 --> 00:27:44,560 Speaker 2: like your financial accountability partner, maybe you need that. Maybe 569 00:27:44,560 --> 00:27:47,080 Speaker 2: you need someone to sit down look at the numbers 570 00:27:47,080 --> 00:27:48,800 Speaker 2: with you and help you come up with the game plan. 571 00:27:48,880 --> 00:27:51,680 Speaker 2: And that's fine, But I wouldn't necessarily hand over the 572 00:27:51,760 --> 00:27:54,120 Speaker 2: keys of the castle and say I'm going to give 573 00:27:54,119 --> 00:27:56,680 Speaker 2: you my debt and my here's my income each month 574 00:27:56,720 --> 00:27:59,120 Speaker 2: you decide how to use it and turn a blind 575 00:27:59,160 --> 00:28:01,440 Speaker 2: eye to it. Think you need to be involved, side 576 00:28:01,440 --> 00:28:04,879 Speaker 2: by side every step of the way, like tiff was saying, 577 00:28:04,960 --> 00:28:07,640 Speaker 2: and in a in a you know, like Tiffany and Superman, 578 00:28:07,680 --> 00:28:10,520 Speaker 2: you know they have a real trusted partnership. And I 579 00:28:10,600 --> 00:28:12,520 Speaker 2: mean it didn't. It wasn't like from the beginning where 580 00:28:12,560 --> 00:28:15,239 Speaker 2: Superman was, you know, wanting you to coach him, right, 581 00:28:15,280 --> 00:28:19,600 Speaker 2: I mean like any like with any partner is like, yeah, 582 00:28:19,840 --> 00:28:23,200 Speaker 2: you think you're a financial expert's yeah, I was. 583 00:28:23,160 --> 00:28:24,840 Speaker 1: That he was not looking forward to the coaching. I 584 00:28:24,920 --> 00:28:25,679 Speaker 1: forced the coaching on. 585 00:28:25,800 --> 00:28:27,960 Speaker 2: Yeah, you guys love to hear our advice. You know 586 00:28:28,000 --> 00:28:32,720 Speaker 2: who doesn't our spouses? Yes, but uh but if you 587 00:28:32,760 --> 00:28:35,080 Speaker 2: guys have that, really have that trust already, then I 588 00:28:35,119 --> 00:28:37,360 Speaker 2: would say, yeah, I think it's fine for him. If 589 00:28:37,359 --> 00:28:39,720 Speaker 2: he's got some strategies he can help you on hold 590 00:28:39,760 --> 00:28:42,840 Speaker 2: you accountable, that's all fine. Clearly, you know you have 591 00:28:42,960 --> 00:28:45,719 Speaker 2: significant debt, and I would say something needs to be 592 00:28:45,760 --> 00:28:48,320 Speaker 2: done for sure, especially that twenty thousand dollars in credit 593 00:28:48,400 --> 00:28:51,680 Speaker 2: card debt. That concerns me, especially when it's accruing interest. 594 00:28:51,800 --> 00:28:53,920 Speaker 2: You want to you want to get you want to 595 00:28:53,960 --> 00:28:56,200 Speaker 2: get some kind of plan in place to start whittling 596 00:28:56,200 --> 00:28:58,960 Speaker 2: that down. I don't know what kind of I don't 597 00:28:59,000 --> 00:29:00,720 Speaker 2: know what kind of student loans you have, whether they're 598 00:29:00,720 --> 00:29:03,239 Speaker 2: private or federal. But there's things you can take as 599 00:29:03,240 --> 00:29:04,760 Speaker 2: well to make that more manageable. 600 00:29:04,880 --> 00:29:07,600 Speaker 1: So you might want to consider refinancing those now now 601 00:29:07,600 --> 00:29:08,840 Speaker 1: the interest rates are lower. 602 00:29:09,400 --> 00:29:11,560 Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, if you've got private loans you want 603 00:29:11,560 --> 00:29:14,640 Speaker 2: to refinance them, or federal loans you know as well, 604 00:29:16,000 --> 00:29:19,920 Speaker 2: you can consolidate those. There's there's options. There's income driven 605 00:29:19,960 --> 00:29:22,600 Speaker 2: repayment plans. I don't know if you how you how 606 00:29:22,600 --> 00:29:24,880 Speaker 2: that would shake out with you with your income. There's 607 00:29:25,000 --> 00:29:28,520 Speaker 2: there's options. You know, you could use a personal loan 608 00:29:28,920 --> 00:29:31,360 Speaker 2: to consolidate your credit card debt maybe you have you 609 00:29:31,360 --> 00:29:34,480 Speaker 2: can save on interest that way, if your credit is healthy, 610 00:29:34,520 --> 00:29:38,360 Speaker 2: that can be an option. Balance transfersus. There's there's things 611 00:29:38,400 --> 00:29:41,280 Speaker 2: so if you're you know, if your husband or sorry, 612 00:29:41,280 --> 00:29:44,440 Speaker 2: your partner is interested and you know has some great 613 00:29:44,440 --> 00:29:47,440 Speaker 2: tips or strategies to help you with the sure on 614 00:29:47,480 --> 00:29:49,440 Speaker 2: your own. I don't know did you say this earlier, Tiffany, 615 00:29:49,480 --> 00:29:52,680 Speaker 2: but I would say, don't take every you know, maybe 616 00:29:52,680 --> 00:29:54,840 Speaker 2: he has ideas and he's super smart, but also do 617 00:29:54,920 --> 00:29:58,200 Speaker 2: your own research and learn so that it's not all 618 00:29:58,240 --> 00:30:01,960 Speaker 2: coming from one source. And and I think any good 619 00:30:02,000 --> 00:30:06,880 Speaker 2: partner would support you educating yourself and not just you know, 620 00:30:07,000 --> 00:30:10,320 Speaker 2: taking them at their word, because then you want to 621 00:30:10,360 --> 00:30:12,320 Speaker 2: feel empowered. And if things don't work out, you don't 622 00:30:12,320 --> 00:30:14,200 Speaker 2: want to be like, oh no, I'm gonna you know 623 00:30:14,440 --> 00:30:17,000 Speaker 2: everything I knew was tied up in this one person. 624 00:30:17,080 --> 00:30:19,080 Speaker 2: Now I don't know anything and I can't handle my 625 00:30:19,080 --> 00:30:23,520 Speaker 2: own finances. You'll exactly, You'll feel better and more empowered 626 00:30:23,640 --> 00:30:25,880 Speaker 2: as a woman and as a woman and as a 627 00:30:25,920 --> 00:30:30,320 Speaker 2: mother and as a working mom if you understand things 628 00:30:30,480 --> 00:30:30,920 Speaker 2: as well. 629 00:30:31,360 --> 00:30:34,320 Speaker 1: So basically I wouldn't have to do it for you, 630 00:30:34,400 --> 00:30:35,240 Speaker 1: but definitely with you. 631 00:30:37,320 --> 00:30:41,080 Speaker 2: And yeah, he should and hopefully he knows about it, because, 632 00:30:41,120 --> 00:30:43,720 Speaker 2: like you said, going into a marriage and springing that 633 00:30:43,800 --> 00:30:48,440 Speaker 2: on him it probably wouldn't be good. Thank you very 634 00:30:48,520 --> 00:30:52,840 Speaker 2: much for your question, Miss Sherley. Yes, Aunt Shirley, we 635 00:30:52,920 --> 00:30:53,280 Speaker 2: miss you. 636 00:30:53,440 --> 00:30:57,440 Speaker 1: Oh nobody does love Sherely. I know it's saally, but 637 00:30:57,480 --> 00:30:58,240 Speaker 1: you know it sounds. 638 00:30:58,320 --> 00:31:01,440 Speaker 2: Everyone's got lee as I'm a mandol. Go to Sherry Lee. 639 00:31:02,120 --> 00:31:06,280 Speaker 2: There's a ruby lee or a'll leave that is? 640 00:31:07,080 --> 00:31:08,280 Speaker 1: I love it all right. 641 00:31:08,480 --> 00:31:10,680 Speaker 2: Thank you guys so much for your questions. Again. Hit 642 00:31:10,760 --> 00:31:13,520 Speaker 2: us up at Brando Mission Podcast at gmail dot com 643 00:31:13,600 --> 00:31:17,440 Speaker 2: or brand and Mission Podcast on Instagram. 644 00:31:17,560 --> 00:31:20,400 Speaker 1: And now it's time to boost a break with our 645 00:31:20,520 --> 00:31:24,440 Speaker 1: BA family. Will you booze? Will you break? What you're 646 00:31:24,480 --> 00:31:27,480 Speaker 1: going to do? Mandy, I'm gonna do. 647 00:31:28,000 --> 00:31:30,800 Speaker 2: I'm gonna do a break really quick and uh and 648 00:31:30,840 --> 00:31:33,640 Speaker 2: I won't go on too too long about this, but 649 00:31:34,360 --> 00:31:37,160 Speaker 2: I want to do a break. Maybe I'll do a 650 00:31:37,200 --> 00:31:38,800 Speaker 2: boostand a break. So I want to do a break 651 00:31:38,960 --> 00:31:42,000 Speaker 2: for people out there who need to hear this, who 652 00:31:42,480 --> 00:31:46,680 Speaker 2: respond to feedback in the workplace defensively. If your first 653 00:31:46,720 --> 00:31:51,840 Speaker 2: response to criticism or negative feedback in the workplace is 654 00:31:51,960 --> 00:31:56,400 Speaker 2: to be defensive and point the finger at other people, 655 00:31:57,000 --> 00:31:59,480 Speaker 2: I want to just say, take, like, take ten seconds, 656 00:31:59,520 --> 00:32:01,960 Speaker 2: take a deep breath before you write that email, before 657 00:32:02,000 --> 00:32:05,040 Speaker 2: you respond in a defensive way, and like be a 658 00:32:05,040 --> 00:32:08,160 Speaker 2: little introspective, because as a manager, I often have to 659 00:32:08,160 --> 00:32:12,240 Speaker 2: give constructive feedback and criticize people if they're not doing 660 00:32:12,320 --> 00:32:17,200 Speaker 2: things properly. And it's really difficult to help someone grow 661 00:32:17,320 --> 00:32:20,040 Speaker 2: and to build a team when people are unwilling to 662 00:32:20,120 --> 00:32:23,880 Speaker 2: accept and learn from that feedback. And I have had 663 00:32:23,920 --> 00:32:26,240 Speaker 2: to humble myself throughout my career. I don't think i'd 664 00:32:26,280 --> 00:32:28,360 Speaker 2: be where I am if I wasn't a humble person 665 00:32:28,400 --> 00:32:31,880 Speaker 2: who could take and accept feedback and accept that sometimes 666 00:32:31,920 --> 00:32:33,880 Speaker 2: I don't do things the right way or that I 667 00:32:33,920 --> 00:32:37,680 Speaker 2: could be better at something. And it will just hurt. 668 00:32:37,720 --> 00:32:39,760 Speaker 2: It will make you a horrible person to work with, 669 00:32:40,320 --> 00:32:43,200 Speaker 2: It will stop people from wanting to see you move 670 00:32:43,280 --> 00:32:46,320 Speaker 2: up and succeed. It'll stop people from giving you, you know, 671 00:32:46,320 --> 00:32:48,760 Speaker 2: if you've been complaining about not being trusted with more 672 00:32:48,800 --> 00:32:52,400 Speaker 2: responsibilities or getting that promotion. I mean, sometimes for me 673 00:32:52,480 --> 00:32:56,440 Speaker 2: it comes down to does this person handle feedback well? 674 00:32:57,040 --> 00:33:00,760 Speaker 2: Can they see that there's room to grow? And it 675 00:33:00,800 --> 00:33:03,840 Speaker 2: may be tough to hear, but I've just seen those 676 00:33:03,880 --> 00:33:06,400 Speaker 2: two types of people and manage those two types of 677 00:33:06,400 --> 00:33:09,920 Speaker 2: people and the ones who can't accept feedback and learn 678 00:33:09,920 --> 00:33:13,120 Speaker 2: from it and grow from it and see the value 679 00:33:13,200 --> 00:33:16,040 Speaker 2: in getting the feedback. You know, if there's great you 680 00:33:16,080 --> 00:33:19,680 Speaker 2: should feel good about having, if they're doing it in 681 00:33:19,680 --> 00:33:23,040 Speaker 2: the right way, having a manager, having colleagues who feel 682 00:33:23,720 --> 00:33:26,120 Speaker 2: who care enough about you to give you feedback so 683 00:33:26,200 --> 00:33:28,280 Speaker 2: that you can grow. And I think that there's a 684 00:33:28,320 --> 00:33:31,080 Speaker 2: story you can tell yourself when you get constructive or 685 00:33:31,080 --> 00:33:34,920 Speaker 2: difficult feedback. The story can be, Oh, this person is 686 00:33:35,040 --> 00:33:38,719 Speaker 2: just criticizing me. Oh this is not my fault. This 687 00:33:38,760 --> 00:33:41,320 Speaker 2: person's micromanaging me like they just want to. They just 688 00:33:41,360 --> 00:33:43,640 Speaker 2: like are bringing me down. That's one story you can 689 00:33:43,640 --> 00:33:45,840 Speaker 2: tell yourself. Or the other story can be this is 690 00:33:45,880 --> 00:33:48,120 Speaker 2: a learning moment, this person cares enough to give me 691 00:33:48,160 --> 00:33:51,600 Speaker 2: this feedback. Let me actually look at the feedback and 692 00:33:52,080 --> 00:33:54,440 Speaker 2: think objectively as much as I can about what they're 693 00:33:54,480 --> 00:33:57,960 Speaker 2: saying and help figure out how I can grow and 694 00:33:58,080 --> 00:34:01,200 Speaker 2: learn from this and collaborate with that person to improve. 695 00:34:01,720 --> 00:34:04,440 Speaker 2: And I've seen the struggle. It's really hard for some 696 00:34:04,560 --> 00:34:06,920 Speaker 2: people to get there. But if you want to succeed 697 00:34:06,960 --> 00:34:09,360 Speaker 2: in your career, it's one of the best tips I 698 00:34:09,360 --> 00:34:12,200 Speaker 2: can give you is to bring humility to the table 699 00:34:12,360 --> 00:34:17,640 Speaker 2: and have take feedback, learn from it, and grow from it. 700 00:34:18,040 --> 00:34:21,359 Speaker 2: People in management positions love working with people like that, 701 00:34:21,440 --> 00:34:24,399 Speaker 2: and it really sucks when you have people who who 702 00:34:24,440 --> 00:34:26,840 Speaker 2: can't do that, and then it's like. 703 00:34:26,960 --> 00:34:29,600 Speaker 1: Break what about you? You said you're going to do 704 00:34:29,600 --> 00:34:30,319 Speaker 1: a boost and a breaking. 705 00:34:30,320 --> 00:34:32,320 Speaker 2: Oh the boost would be for people who can take feedback. 706 00:34:33,120 --> 00:34:34,520 Speaker 2: I was just trying, how are they going to like, 707 00:34:34,560 --> 00:34:37,439 Speaker 2: how are they going to spin this positive or negative? Yeah? 708 00:34:37,520 --> 00:34:40,400 Speaker 2: Boost for boost for everybody out there. And I had 709 00:34:40,440 --> 00:34:42,400 Speaker 2: to learn how to take I'm a writer and I 710 00:34:42,440 --> 00:34:44,879 Speaker 2: get edited by you know, I was a writer. I'm 711 00:34:44,880 --> 00:34:49,120 Speaker 2: an editor now, but having to take criticism from sometimes 712 00:34:49,120 --> 00:34:51,719 Speaker 2: people I didn't know about stuff that the stories that 713 00:34:51,760 --> 00:34:55,240 Speaker 2: I would produce, I mean talk about direct feedback every 714 00:34:55,280 --> 00:34:57,400 Speaker 2: single day. And if you're in a field where you're 715 00:34:57,440 --> 00:34:59,879 Speaker 2: getting feedback every single day, you're not going to You're 716 00:34:59,880 --> 00:35:01,680 Speaker 2: not gonna last very long if you can't take it. 717 00:35:01,760 --> 00:35:04,160 Speaker 2: So a boost for people who take that feedback and 718 00:35:04,239 --> 00:35:06,520 Speaker 2: can grow from it and accept and and know that 719 00:35:06,560 --> 00:35:09,400 Speaker 2: it comes from a place of you know, well meaning 720 00:35:09,400 --> 00:35:10,320 Speaker 2: and for your own growth. 721 00:35:10,640 --> 00:35:14,400 Speaker 1: So I'm going to do kind of like a double booth. 722 00:35:14,600 --> 00:35:17,960 Speaker 1: So first booth, we did it, We did it, We 723 00:35:18,000 --> 00:35:21,680 Speaker 1: did it. Yeah, lo and CMO, So y'all really show now. 724 00:35:21,680 --> 00:35:23,360 Speaker 1: I mean, by the time you hear this is it's 725 00:35:23,400 --> 00:35:27,160 Speaker 1: it will be passed. But on Tuesday, the Mollymore kickstarter 726 00:35:27,280 --> 00:35:30,360 Speaker 1: officially is done. And girl, we have raised over fifty 727 00:35:30,360 --> 00:35:32,120 Speaker 1: two thousand dollars. 728 00:35:32,239 --> 00:35:36,759 Speaker 2: Oh my god, honestly, that's amazing. I haven't checked in 729 00:35:36,800 --> 00:35:39,440 Speaker 2: a minute. That's wait, you were trying to raise how much? 730 00:35:39,760 --> 00:35:44,320 Speaker 1: Thirty five thousand? Full crap? I know. And each additional 731 00:35:44,360 --> 00:35:47,920 Speaker 1: five thousand dollars means that I can donate two hundred 732 00:35:47,920 --> 00:35:50,520 Speaker 1: more books I did the math, and hire one additional teacher. 733 00:35:51,360 --> 00:35:51,640 Speaker 2: Wow. 734 00:35:51,680 --> 00:35:55,319 Speaker 1: So it's been I mean, like, this is definitely one 735 00:35:55,320 --> 00:35:57,839 Speaker 1: of the hardest things I've done before. I will say this, 736 00:35:57,920 --> 00:36:00,839 Speaker 1: the pre work was so hard, and the Kickstarter, if 737 00:36:00,880 --> 00:36:03,320 Speaker 1: you do the pre work, it's not as hard, especially 738 00:36:03,400 --> 00:36:06,600 Speaker 1: past like the first week. But I honestly, I told 739 00:36:06,680 --> 00:36:09,920 Speaker 1: myself in my mind, my you know what, you killed it. 740 00:36:10,000 --> 00:36:12,000 Speaker 1: If you get to forty thousand, you know you ask 741 00:36:12,040 --> 00:36:14,359 Speaker 1: for thirty five, you get to forty, who girl? So 742 00:36:14,480 --> 00:36:16,839 Speaker 1: to get to fifty two? Because last night, Mandy, we 743 00:36:16,840 --> 00:36:18,759 Speaker 1: were at like I don't even want to say, like 744 00:36:18,800 --> 00:36:21,279 Speaker 1: maybe like forty seven or something, so you know, I 745 00:36:21,320 --> 00:36:24,160 Speaker 1: didn't I was kind of holding my breath that maybe 746 00:36:24,200 --> 00:36:26,719 Speaker 1: we could crack fifty, but like, let's not get crazy. 747 00:36:26,960 --> 00:36:29,480 Speaker 1: So to get past fifty two is like I think, 748 00:36:29,760 --> 00:36:32,600 Speaker 1: I think people. One of the things that this has 749 00:36:32,600 --> 00:36:35,640 Speaker 1: taught me is I think folks think that having an 750 00:36:35,680 --> 00:36:38,440 Speaker 1: audience does not guarantee that people are going to support 751 00:36:38,480 --> 00:36:41,640 Speaker 1: something that's not necessarily fully in alignment with what they 752 00:36:41,680 --> 00:36:44,080 Speaker 1: know you for. You know, if you one thing like oh, 753 00:36:44,080 --> 00:36:47,160 Speaker 1: I'm coming up with a financial book, then my expectation is, Hey, 754 00:36:47,560 --> 00:36:50,640 Speaker 1: you come to me for personal finance as the budgetista. 755 00:36:50,800 --> 00:36:52,760 Speaker 1: You're gonna buy my adult book because you're an adult. 756 00:36:53,080 --> 00:36:55,920 Speaker 1: But to convince people who don't have kids, you know, 757 00:36:56,080 --> 00:36:59,640 Speaker 1: to purchase a financial literacy well, a children's book with 758 00:36:59,680 --> 00:37:02,840 Speaker 1: a final literacy undertone for kids. It's that was a 759 00:37:02,840 --> 00:37:06,640 Speaker 1: bigger leap, and you know, and I just I'm just 760 00:37:06,680 --> 00:37:08,600 Speaker 1: really grateful for every single person. There are people who 761 00:37:08,920 --> 00:37:11,640 Speaker 1: donated a dollar, five dollars. I just love that, Like 762 00:37:11,680 --> 00:37:16,080 Speaker 1: I am grateful for the people who donated seven hundred, 763 00:37:16,080 --> 00:37:18,920 Speaker 1: and equally is grateful for people who donated a dollar 764 00:37:19,239 --> 00:37:21,560 Speaker 1: because with those are people who are like, I don't 765 00:37:21,600 --> 00:37:24,200 Speaker 1: have much, but I love what you're doing. You've helped me, 766 00:37:24,239 --> 00:37:26,239 Speaker 1: so I'm going to pour back into the babies. So 767 00:37:26,400 --> 00:37:29,600 Speaker 1: I'm just yeah, I'm just grateful over twelve hundred people donated. 768 00:37:29,640 --> 00:37:32,839 Speaker 1: And what I love almost thirteen hundred. What I really 769 00:37:32,880 --> 00:37:34,759 Speaker 1: love is that you know that we not that I 770 00:37:34,800 --> 00:37:37,240 Speaker 1: love this, but the fact is we didn't go viral. 771 00:37:37,680 --> 00:37:41,560 Speaker 1: These people that donated are individually won Like I can 772 00:37:41,680 --> 00:37:43,600 Speaker 1: go behind the scenes and see each in one of 773 00:37:43,640 --> 00:37:46,279 Speaker 1: your names, and so to see people that have not 774 00:37:46,320 --> 00:37:49,400 Speaker 1: spoken to in years, that have not seen the year's 775 00:37:49,600 --> 00:37:52,640 Speaker 1: middle school friends, high school friends, I'm like, oh my gosh, 776 00:37:52,840 --> 00:37:55,000 Speaker 1: it's just yeah, it's just been Honestly, it's just been 777 00:37:55,040 --> 00:37:58,239 Speaker 1: an amazing journey. So That is my boost, Like, whoo, 778 00:37:58,840 --> 00:38:02,040 Speaker 1: the good thing is at mymore dot com. As soon 779 00:38:02,040 --> 00:38:05,000 Speaker 1: as it like closes, the kickstarter closes, it will turn 780 00:38:05,000 --> 00:38:07,279 Speaker 1: into just a general pre order page. And the book 781 00:38:07,280 --> 00:38:09,480 Speaker 1: I think is like I want to say, seventeen dollars, 782 00:38:09,520 --> 00:38:12,000 Speaker 1: like a regular children's book of that size, So you'll 783 00:38:12,040 --> 00:38:13,879 Speaker 1: be able to just pre order just regularly that same 784 00:38:13,880 --> 00:38:17,399 Speaker 1: website at mollymore dot com. Al I am O r E. 785 00:38:17,600 --> 00:38:20,400 Speaker 1: But my real true boost is I think I just 786 00:38:20,440 --> 00:38:23,880 Speaker 1: found amazing admin. I don't think she listens to Brian Abishen, 787 00:38:24,360 --> 00:38:25,960 Speaker 1: but I want her to stay. 788 00:38:26,160 --> 00:38:28,480 Speaker 2: So how amazing could she be if she's not a listener? 789 00:38:28,480 --> 00:38:29,280 Speaker 2: I don't understand. 790 00:38:30,360 --> 00:38:32,919 Speaker 1: Well, she's been a DreamCatcher for a long time. But 791 00:38:33,520 --> 00:38:36,040 Speaker 1: here's something that really helped because I've been having a 792 00:38:36,040 --> 00:38:38,800 Speaker 1: hard time finding the right fit. Remember I had that 793 00:38:39,120 --> 00:38:41,239 Speaker 1: lady that grand opening, grand closing. We let her go 794 00:38:41,280 --> 00:38:43,840 Speaker 1: within twenty four hours. We were learning, like, how do 795 00:38:43,880 --> 00:38:46,160 Speaker 1: you find the right admin? Finding an executive admin is 796 00:38:46,200 --> 00:38:46,640 Speaker 1: not easy? 797 00:38:46,760 --> 00:38:48,840 Speaker 2: A few months ago, yeah. 798 00:38:48,400 --> 00:38:51,240 Speaker 1: It was, but even before that, like we were looking. 799 00:38:51,280 --> 00:38:53,480 Speaker 1: We've been looking. I've been looking honestly for like nearly 800 00:38:53,520 --> 00:38:56,600 Speaker 1: I feel like two years. But that's not odd because 801 00:38:56,640 --> 00:38:59,480 Speaker 1: most of my my my friends in business same thing. 802 00:38:59,800 --> 00:39:02,200 Speaker 1: They have a great CFO, they have a great bookkeeper, 803 00:39:02,239 --> 00:39:04,480 Speaker 1: they have a great all these other things. But finding 804 00:39:04,520 --> 00:39:07,840 Speaker 1: an executive admin who is who wants to be an admin, 805 00:39:07,920 --> 00:39:09,960 Speaker 1: not wants to be I'll be an admin because I'm 806 00:39:09,960 --> 00:39:12,120 Speaker 1: really trying to be dot dot do, but someone who 807 00:39:12,160 --> 00:39:14,000 Speaker 1: really just wants to be the best adam in possible. 808 00:39:14,840 --> 00:39:18,880 Speaker 1: It's really hard. So we did some really deep dive interviews. 809 00:39:18,880 --> 00:39:21,000 Speaker 1: So we interviewed i want to say, like ten different people, 810 00:39:21,040 --> 00:39:23,520 Speaker 1: whittled it down to five, and we had them submit 811 00:39:23,560 --> 00:39:26,760 Speaker 1: everything from here's the scenario that might be in Tiffany's inbox, 812 00:39:26,840 --> 00:39:28,880 Speaker 1: what do you say, let me see how your PowerPoint 813 00:39:28,920 --> 00:39:31,200 Speaker 1: presentation looks, let me see how excel looks like. We 814 00:39:31,239 --> 00:39:34,640 Speaker 1: did all the things, got it down to three really 815 00:39:34,680 --> 00:39:38,319 Speaker 1: great women, and after interviewing them, one really stood out 816 00:39:38,640 --> 00:39:40,359 Speaker 1: to me. The other two were great too, but one 817 00:39:40,480 --> 00:39:43,960 Speaker 1: really stood out as a unicorn and she was a 818 00:39:44,040 --> 00:39:46,080 Speaker 1: dream catcher for a number of years. I knew her 819 00:39:46,520 --> 00:39:48,240 Speaker 1: just from like in like kind of like in passing. 820 00:39:48,280 --> 00:39:50,560 Speaker 1: We've done things together, and I was like, oh her, 821 00:39:50,920 --> 00:39:54,560 Speaker 1: she's awesome. So then we did something new this time 822 00:39:54,960 --> 00:39:58,680 Speaker 1: that we had the team. She worked a paid almost 823 00:39:58,680 --> 00:40:01,880 Speaker 1: like a paid preview for two weeks. So the first 824 00:40:01,920 --> 00:40:04,000 Speaker 1: week she got paid to work with the team and 825 00:40:04,040 --> 00:40:06,080 Speaker 1: they did some trainings and things like that, and they 826 00:40:06,120 --> 00:40:08,279 Speaker 1: loved her. And in the second week she worked with 827 00:40:08,320 --> 00:40:10,759 Speaker 1: me where we spoke for like a few minutes every 828 00:40:10,800 --> 00:40:12,200 Speaker 1: morning and like kind of work through the day and 829 00:40:12,239 --> 00:40:14,239 Speaker 1: what needed to be done. And she's been amazing, when 830 00:40:14,280 --> 00:40:17,080 Speaker 1: I tell you. And so the key is now is 831 00:40:17,360 --> 00:40:20,319 Speaker 1: that preview is not just for us to decide if 832 00:40:20,360 --> 00:40:22,759 Speaker 1: she's a fit. She has to decide if we're a fit. 833 00:40:22,840 --> 00:40:25,919 Speaker 1: And so I know that it's really hectic sometimes working 834 00:40:25,920 --> 00:40:29,680 Speaker 1: over at the Budgetnissa, And I know I'll find out 835 00:40:29,680 --> 00:40:32,239 Speaker 1: tomorrow if I know if I've already chosen her. I'm like, oh, 836 00:40:32,320 --> 00:40:35,600 Speaker 1: choose you. I find out tomorrow if she chooses us back, 837 00:40:36,239 --> 00:40:38,359 Speaker 1: and we haven't scared her away with all the shenanigans 838 00:40:38,360 --> 00:40:40,720 Speaker 1: that it takes to like keep a business like this running. 839 00:40:40,760 --> 00:40:43,480 Speaker 1: So yeah, that's just really my my brown boost. She 840 00:40:43,560 --> 00:40:45,120 Speaker 1: is brown, so I wanted to boost her. I'm not 841 00:40:45,120 --> 00:40:47,600 Speaker 1: gonna say hun yet what we call Michelle, because you know, 842 00:40:47,800 --> 00:40:49,920 Speaker 1: the running joke is all the admins are named Michelle, 843 00:40:50,880 --> 00:40:55,839 Speaker 1: So new Michelle, hopefully you choose you choose us back. 844 00:40:59,120 --> 00:41:02,440 Speaker 2: It's like Avilada when she just kept calling her the 845 00:41:02,520 --> 00:41:03,239 Speaker 2: other girl's name. 846 00:41:04,680 --> 00:41:06,520 Speaker 1: But no, she's like I said, she's awesome. And but 847 00:41:06,800 --> 00:41:08,239 Speaker 1: one thing I do know, this is what I told 848 00:41:08,239 --> 00:41:11,640 Speaker 1: the team that when you find somebody amazing, what it 849 00:41:11,719 --> 00:41:14,200 Speaker 1: what reminds me is that there are other amazing people 850 00:41:14,239 --> 00:41:16,520 Speaker 1: out there. So for whatever reason, if we don't, she 851 00:41:16,560 --> 00:41:20,520 Speaker 1: doesn't choose us and me that what it does is 852 00:41:20,560 --> 00:41:22,920 Speaker 1: she made it clear for me to figure out what 853 00:41:22,960 --> 00:41:24,600 Speaker 1: it is I needed and what I'm looking for to 854 00:41:24,640 --> 00:41:26,840 Speaker 1: adden because she's a plus so so I'm trying to 855 00:41:26,840 --> 00:41:29,160 Speaker 1: look at the good side but also whole fingers because 856 00:41:29,160 --> 00:41:31,680 Speaker 1: she's been talking like we had like our morning talk 857 00:41:31,719 --> 00:41:34,800 Speaker 1: today and the way she's talking like yeah, so on Thursday, 858 00:41:34,840 --> 00:41:36,800 Speaker 1: I'm like, are you gonna be here on Thursday? So 859 00:41:36,960 --> 00:41:41,000 Speaker 1: I'm hoping if you listen to girl, please say we 860 00:41:41,160 --> 00:41:41,600 Speaker 1: need to. 861 00:41:42,200 --> 00:41:44,040 Speaker 2: And when you find the right person, it does feel 862 00:41:44,080 --> 00:41:46,120 Speaker 2: like you found like a love match or something. I mean, 863 00:41:46,160 --> 00:41:48,680 Speaker 2: it's like dating. You're like, I just I've left really 864 00:41:48,680 --> 00:41:51,400 Speaker 2: good interviews just on Cloud nine, Like that was a 865 00:41:51,440 --> 00:41:54,520 Speaker 2: great date. I want to text my mom and tell 866 00:41:54,520 --> 00:41:56,520 Speaker 2: her about this great person I just met and how 867 00:41:56,719 --> 00:41:59,879 Speaker 2: you know, like and that is the best feeling is. 868 00:42:00,239 --> 00:42:01,960 Speaker 1: Lie, Like I told her, I felt like I was 869 00:42:01,960 --> 00:42:04,480 Speaker 1: like kicking game. I said, girl, this is what I said. Literally, 870 00:42:04,560 --> 00:42:07,439 Speaker 1: it'll take a whole day to recognize sunshine. I would 871 00:42:07,480 --> 00:42:10,719 Speaker 1: love for you to be on the team, you know, 872 00:42:10,800 --> 00:42:13,200 Speaker 1: So fingers crossed either way, Like it's just I mean, 873 00:42:13,520 --> 00:42:16,239 Speaker 1: either way, it's it's it's good either way. So but 874 00:42:16,560 --> 00:42:18,200 Speaker 1: either we learned a really great lesson or we have 875 00:42:18,239 --> 00:42:21,560 Speaker 1: a really great person, hopefully both. So that's my brown boosty. 876 00:42:21,600 --> 00:42:24,000 Speaker 2: It's oh fabulous. That's great to end the show on 877 00:42:24,040 --> 00:42:26,719 Speaker 2: a high note. And congrats again on the success of 878 00:42:26,760 --> 00:42:28,920 Speaker 2: that kickstarter. I'm so excited for Molly Moore and I 879 00:42:28,920 --> 00:42:31,600 Speaker 2: hope this is just one of many, many, many, mallymore 880 00:42:31,600 --> 00:42:34,960 Speaker 2: books to come. And I can't wait to see how big, 881 00:42:35,640 --> 00:42:36,920 Speaker 2: how big everything gets with that. 882 00:42:37,800 --> 00:42:39,880 Speaker 1: I know, honestly, I'm like, I'm just holding out by 883 00:42:39,880 --> 00:42:42,520 Speaker 1: the seat of my pants. I'm like, whatever whatever comes, 884 00:42:42,560 --> 00:42:44,920 Speaker 1: I'm just welcoming it with opening arms and I have 885 00:42:45,239 --> 00:42:48,440 Speaker 1: I'm keeping low expectation but open to all opportunities. 886 00:42:48,520 --> 00:42:53,040 Speaker 2: Speak to the universe. Yes, all right, guys, well, wash 887 00:42:53,080 --> 00:42:56,399 Speaker 2: your hands, don't touch your face, be safe, work from 888 00:42:56,440 --> 00:42:58,040 Speaker 2: home if you can, and. 889 00:42:58,080 --> 00:42:58,960 Speaker 1: Don't touch it for one K. 890 00:42:59,560 --> 00:43:03,640 Speaker 2: Yes, touch your for one K. Consult at expert if 891 00:43:03,680 --> 00:43:07,560 Speaker 2: you have. If you're thinking about doing anything with your investments, 892 00:43:07,560 --> 00:43:10,960 Speaker 2: talk to an expert first. Hit us up with your questions. 893 00:43:11,040 --> 00:43:13,160 Speaker 2: Let us know you know if you've made any financial 894 00:43:13,200 --> 00:43:17,760 Speaker 2: moves in light of all this coronavirus, you know, market upheaval, 895 00:43:17,800 --> 00:43:20,960 Speaker 2: whether it's refinancing your mortgage or looking at your investments. 896 00:43:21,000 --> 00:43:22,799 Speaker 2: You know, I'm curious, We're all curious how you guys 897 00:43:22,800 --> 00:43:25,720 Speaker 2: are handling it, So shoot us a note Instagram, Brando 898 00:43:25,760 --> 00:43:29,399 Speaker 2: Mission Podcast Gmail. We're Brando Mission Podcast at gmail dot 899 00:43:29,440 --> 00:43:31,600 Speaker 2: com and we're also on Twitter and Facebook, so you 900 00:43:31,600 --> 00:43:35,120 Speaker 2: can find us that way as well. Stay safe out there, 901 00:43:35,200 --> 00:43:35,879 Speaker 2: have a great week. 902 00:43:36,680 --> 00:43:47,439 Speaker 1: Bye bye