1 00:00:02,320 --> 00:00:04,680 Speaker 1: Hey, thanks for listening to the best of Cabino and 2 00:00:04,840 --> 00:00:07,360 Speaker 1: Rich podcast. Be sure to catch us live every day 3 00:00:07,640 --> 00:00:10,520 Speaker 1: from five to seven pm Eastern two to four pacifics 4 00:00:10,560 --> 00:00:11,520 Speaker 1: on Fox Sports Radio. 5 00:00:11,680 --> 00:00:13,840 Speaker 2: Find your local station for Debino and Rich at Fox 6 00:00:13,840 --> 00:00:16,639 Speaker 2: Sports Radio dot com, or stream us live every day. 7 00:00:16,520 --> 00:00:22,960 Speaker 3: On the iHeartRadio app by searching FSR. Carrie, I feel 8 00:00:22,960 --> 00:00:25,480 Speaker 3: it just needs to be said. There's a huge podcast 9 00:00:25,600 --> 00:00:28,360 Speaker 3: dropping in two hours. We'll get to that. But I 10 00:00:28,560 --> 00:00:31,080 Speaker 3: never root for injuries, So I don't want anybody to 11 00:00:31,120 --> 00:00:33,440 Speaker 3: think that we're happy anybody is injured. That is not 12 00:00:33,520 --> 00:00:36,800 Speaker 3: the case. Never against Shad or Sanders, never against them. 13 00:00:36,800 --> 00:00:40,120 Speaker 3: It stinks that he got dinged up in practice today, 14 00:00:40,440 --> 00:00:43,159 Speaker 3: Dan the Heck's Buyer, I feel like I need to 15 00:00:43,240 --> 00:00:47,160 Speaker 3: say that because the whole issue with Shador was perception 16 00:00:47,920 --> 00:00:51,640 Speaker 3: is reality, Right, That's the perception is reality. That's what 17 00:00:51,680 --> 00:00:54,240 Speaker 3: I'm saying. There's a perception that I'm against shaudor Sanders. 18 00:00:54,520 --> 00:00:56,600 Speaker 3: That is not the case. It is one hundred percent 19 00:00:56,760 --> 00:00:59,320 Speaker 3: not the case, but I still need to fight against it. Anyway. 20 00:00:59,480 --> 00:01:02,040 Speaker 3: That's where we start today, on this Wednesday, And there's 21 00:01:02,080 --> 00:01:05,400 Speaker 3: a perception that Travis Kelce may have lost the step. Yeah, 22 00:01:05,440 --> 00:01:08,520 Speaker 3: he's fighting back from that perception. We dive in, welcome in. 23 00:01:08,600 --> 00:01:11,560 Speaker 3: He is the all pro. I'm Dan byersitting in for 24 00:01:11,680 --> 00:01:14,200 Speaker 3: Cavino and Rich who were in for Dan Patrick earlier. Today. 25 00:01:14,959 --> 00:01:19,920 Speaker 3: Jason Stewart is here. Hello everybody. Hello, he's our executive 26 00:01:19,920 --> 00:01:23,720 Speaker 3: producer today. Ryan Smith is at the board. What's going on? 27 00:01:23,800 --> 00:01:27,679 Speaker 3: Papa Bear? Hello? Hello? And Chris Burfetts set the news 28 00:01:27,680 --> 00:01:32,720 Speaker 3: deesk Hi Hello, Chris Hello? All right? You good? Everything's set? 29 00:01:32,760 --> 00:01:34,319 Speaker 3: With your your mic because I know you want to 30 00:01:34,319 --> 00:01:37,440 Speaker 3: weigh in on the pod that's about to drop and 31 00:01:37,640 --> 00:01:41,160 Speaker 3: Travis Kelsey's upcoming season a lot to prove for the 32 00:01:41,680 --> 00:01:44,199 Speaker 3: three time Super Bowl champion, one hundred percent that part 33 00:01:44,280 --> 00:01:44,680 Speaker 3: is coming. 34 00:01:44,680 --> 00:01:46,839 Speaker 4: But I just want to let everybody know, like off 35 00:01:46,880 --> 00:01:49,880 Speaker 4: the air, he has his Witches brew going, he has 36 00:01:49,960 --> 00:01:51,800 Speaker 4: a smoke he has to say. He's going, you know, 37 00:01:51,880 --> 00:01:53,880 Speaker 4: wishing to to do it with nom joking. He's not 38 00:01:53,920 --> 00:01:56,840 Speaker 4: doing that at all. He's definitely just dropping good takes. 39 00:01:56,840 --> 00:01:59,120 Speaker 4: And I know everybody's been up in arms about that 40 00:01:59,160 --> 00:02:00,800 Speaker 4: the last couple of days, but no, I mean it's 41 00:02:00,840 --> 00:02:03,640 Speaker 4: so much going on, you know, this Travis stuff, and 42 00:02:04,520 --> 00:02:06,200 Speaker 4: you know, as a player back in the day, like 43 00:02:06,240 --> 00:02:09,280 Speaker 4: you really had to focus on your craft, like that 44 00:02:09,440 --> 00:02:10,880 Speaker 4: was a big thing. If you had anything that was 45 00:02:10,919 --> 00:02:13,679 Speaker 4: going on outside of the game, it was always kind 46 00:02:13,680 --> 00:02:14,560 Speaker 4: of like frowned upon. 47 00:02:14,840 --> 00:02:16,320 Speaker 3: You know, the job is the job. 48 00:02:16,360 --> 00:02:19,040 Speaker 4: We're here to be the best version of the football 49 00:02:19,040 --> 00:02:20,519 Speaker 4: player that we can be, right, And then you start 50 00:02:20,600 --> 00:02:22,720 Speaker 4: getting endorsements, you get a little you know, you get 51 00:02:22,720 --> 00:02:24,640 Speaker 4: a little fame, and you start getting a little notoriety, 52 00:02:24,639 --> 00:02:27,880 Speaker 4: and obviously for your own personal reasons, you know, you 53 00:02:27,919 --> 00:02:30,919 Speaker 4: go after those things. I think, you know, the team 54 00:02:31,000 --> 00:02:34,600 Speaker 4: always wants you to talk about the team, yes, and 55 00:02:34,680 --> 00:02:36,640 Speaker 4: talk about what's going on day to day there and 56 00:02:36,639 --> 00:02:38,600 Speaker 4: how you're getting better and how the team's getting better. 57 00:02:39,080 --> 00:02:42,000 Speaker 4: But again, like this, you know, this career, the NFL 58 00:02:42,080 --> 00:02:44,000 Speaker 4: is such a short one, so you want to maximize 59 00:02:44,000 --> 00:02:48,040 Speaker 4: your window, so doing other things. When I think the 60 00:02:48,080 --> 00:02:52,560 Speaker 4: season is over, I feel it's perfectly fine. But when 61 00:02:52,600 --> 00:02:55,200 Speaker 4: it bleeds into what's going on throughout the year and 62 00:02:55,280 --> 00:02:57,520 Speaker 4: you know, day to day stuff, that becomes a problem. 63 00:02:57,560 --> 00:02:59,960 Speaker 4: And I think for Travis this is only just the 64 00:03:01,120 --> 00:03:03,919 Speaker 4: I mean, obviously he's older, he has lost the step 65 00:03:03,960 --> 00:03:06,640 Speaker 4: and you know, you know, the game changes, the game 66 00:03:06,680 --> 00:03:10,639 Speaker 4: catches up to the greatest, the greatest of who've ever 67 00:03:10,680 --> 00:03:12,079 Speaker 4: done it, and he's one of those guys that can 68 00:03:12,120 --> 00:03:14,200 Speaker 4: be in that same categories, one of the greatest tight 69 00:03:14,280 --> 00:03:15,000 Speaker 4: ends I've ever done it. 70 00:03:15,080 --> 00:03:18,120 Speaker 3: Well, let me just quick just interrupt, because I just 71 00:03:18,120 --> 00:03:21,119 Speaker 3: want people to understand essentially where we're talking what we're 72 00:03:21,160 --> 00:03:29,040 Speaker 3: talking about here. Travis Kelcey spoke with GQ and said, quote, 73 00:03:29,360 --> 00:03:31,560 Speaker 3: I think it might have slipped a little bit because 74 00:03:31,560 --> 00:03:34,520 Speaker 3: that did have a little more focus in trying to 75 00:03:34,680 --> 00:03:37,880 Speaker 3: set myself up. And he's talking about losing focus from 76 00:03:37,920 --> 00:03:41,520 Speaker 3: the football field because of other off field opportunities that 77 00:03:41,600 --> 00:03:45,080 Speaker 3: came up. Said opportunities came up quote where I was 78 00:03:45,120 --> 00:03:48,120 Speaker 3: excited to venture into a new world of acting and 79 00:03:48,160 --> 00:03:51,680 Speaker 3: being an entertainer. Shot up, was the host of a 80 00:03:51,680 --> 00:03:56,360 Speaker 3: Amazon series during the offseason, appeared in an FX series 81 00:03:56,440 --> 00:03:59,280 Speaker 3: as well, talking about all of the other things that 82 00:03:59,360 --> 00:04:03,080 Speaker 3: happened outside of football, and says that he may have 83 00:04:03,160 --> 00:04:05,920 Speaker 3: lost his focus looking at those things, which is a 84 00:04:05,960 --> 00:04:07,840 Speaker 3: reason why he had a dip in his numbers these 85 00:04:07,880 --> 00:04:10,440 Speaker 3: past couple of seasons. So that's what Travis kelce ended 86 00:04:10,520 --> 00:04:13,200 Speaker 3: up saying the GQ. Sorry I interrupted, but just wanted 87 00:04:13,240 --> 00:04:16,839 Speaker 3: to set the scene, so we can debate time where 88 00:04:16,880 --> 00:04:18,360 Speaker 3: Travis Kelsey is Yeah, no question not. 89 00:04:18,440 --> 00:04:19,800 Speaker 4: I mean I probably jumped the gun a little bit 90 00:04:19,800 --> 00:04:22,240 Speaker 4: on that, but you know, it's it's that, right, like 91 00:04:22,279 --> 00:04:25,760 Speaker 4: being a player and really concentrating on getting better at 92 00:04:25,800 --> 00:04:28,040 Speaker 4: your craft and your job is always party number one. 93 00:04:28,040 --> 00:04:30,040 Speaker 4: But when you step outside and do other things that 94 00:04:30,600 --> 00:04:33,479 Speaker 4: you know can expand your career post football, I'm always 95 00:04:33,480 --> 00:04:35,880 Speaker 4: on board for that. But when you when it bleeds 96 00:04:35,920 --> 00:04:39,000 Speaker 4: into the team, bleeds into your performance, that becomes the issue. 97 00:04:39,040 --> 00:04:41,920 Speaker 4: But the issue isn't that for Travis Kelcey in my opinion, 98 00:04:42,560 --> 00:04:45,080 Speaker 4: it's just that he's lost a step. And again, like you, 99 00:04:45,440 --> 00:04:48,200 Speaker 4: it happens naturally. It's part of the old addage that 100 00:04:48,920 --> 00:04:52,320 Speaker 4: you know, nobody's nobody beats Father time, right, and that's 101 00:04:52,360 --> 00:04:55,640 Speaker 4: what's happening here. It's not about him having a terrible 102 00:04:55,680 --> 00:04:59,320 Speaker 4: gig on FX and doing a bad job, and it's 103 00:04:59,440 --> 00:05:01,600 Speaker 4: you know, it's even though it's fun and he's done 104 00:05:01,600 --> 00:05:04,400 Speaker 4: a great job of actually putting himself out there, this 105 00:05:04,480 --> 00:05:06,640 Speaker 4: isn't the issue, Dan, and I hate when people make 106 00:05:06,680 --> 00:05:10,440 Speaker 4: excuses like that. Is just say I'm gonna you know, the 107 00:05:11,120 --> 00:05:13,440 Speaker 4: last two seasons were down years. And that's part of 108 00:05:13,480 --> 00:05:15,520 Speaker 4: being a professional as well. I've had down years and 109 00:05:15,560 --> 00:05:17,400 Speaker 4: you bounce back and you come back and do what 110 00:05:17,440 --> 00:05:18,800 Speaker 4: you can for your team. And I think that's what 111 00:05:18,880 --> 00:05:20,000 Speaker 4: he should be talking about more. 112 00:05:20,080 --> 00:05:22,200 Speaker 3: I think there's a couple of different levels to this 113 00:05:22,240 --> 00:05:24,880 Speaker 3: Travis Kelcey conversation, and just the first of which is 114 00:05:24,920 --> 00:05:27,560 Speaker 3: the stat line. So over the last two years he 115 00:05:27,680 --> 00:05:30,000 Speaker 3: is not top the one thousand yards. In twenty twenty three, 116 00:05:30,000 --> 00:05:32,560 Speaker 3: if he played in every game played in fifteen of 117 00:05:32,600 --> 00:05:35,680 Speaker 3: the seventeen probably would have had nine hundred and eighty 118 00:05:35,680 --> 00:05:38,640 Speaker 3: four yards, but just five touchdowns that year. Last year, 119 00:05:38,680 --> 00:05:41,600 Speaker 3: playing in sixteen games, targets were down, receptions were down 120 00:05:41,880 --> 00:05:44,760 Speaker 3: eight hundred and twenty three yards, and just three touchdowns. 121 00:05:45,320 --> 00:05:49,400 Speaker 3: And what I find here is what they're trying to 122 00:05:49,440 --> 00:05:53,280 Speaker 3: find here, What is the reality of this, Because not 123 00:05:53,320 --> 00:05:58,400 Speaker 3: only is it the numbers sliding, you're saying that Father 124 00:05:58,480 --> 00:06:02,640 Speaker 3: Time is unbeaten. And then now you have another angle 125 00:06:02,680 --> 00:06:05,480 Speaker 3: of it of his effort into this. In Super Bowl 126 00:06:05,480 --> 00:06:08,159 Speaker 3: fifty nine against the Eagles. Yeah, something we've talked about, 127 00:06:08,480 --> 00:06:11,039 Speaker 3: which I think was on clear display for hundreds of 128 00:06:11,040 --> 00:06:14,280 Speaker 3: millions to see that there just wasn't There was there 129 00:06:14,320 --> 00:06:17,320 Speaker 3: was something missing, something wasn't there in Super Bowl fifty nine. 130 00:06:17,680 --> 00:06:20,480 Speaker 3: So Kelsey goes on to tell GQ Magazine, I have 131 00:06:20,600 --> 00:06:23,040 Speaker 3: such motivation to show up this year for my guys. 132 00:06:23,520 --> 00:06:25,200 Speaker 3: I don't say this is I shouldn't have done it, 133 00:06:25,279 --> 00:06:27,680 Speaker 3: meaning the other off field stuff. I'm just saying that 134 00:06:27,720 --> 00:06:29,680 Speaker 3: my work ethic is such that I have so much 135 00:06:29,680 --> 00:06:32,039 Speaker 3: pride in how I do things that I never want 136 00:06:32,040 --> 00:06:33,720 Speaker 3: the product to tail off. And I feel like these 137 00:06:33,760 --> 00:06:37,000 Speaker 3: past two years haven't been to my standard, and that 138 00:06:37,160 --> 00:06:39,960 Speaker 3: maybe how he feels. And sometimes you're the last one 139 00:06:39,960 --> 00:06:45,160 Speaker 3: to know yes, yes, right, yes, And I'm wondering if 140 00:06:45,160 --> 00:06:47,800 Speaker 3: that's the case with Travis Kelcey. But this is what 141 00:06:47,880 --> 00:06:52,760 Speaker 3: I think is interesting because our executive producer Jason Stewart, 142 00:06:53,040 --> 00:06:55,600 Speaker 3: who unlike you carry has not played in the NFL, 143 00:06:56,440 --> 00:06:59,880 Speaker 3: but he had a different opinion on what Travis Kelcey 144 00:07:00,240 --> 00:07:05,520 Speaker 3: was saying or not saying in here. And Jason, your explanation, 145 00:07:05,880 --> 00:07:07,920 Speaker 3: in your words, how you put what Kelsey did here 146 00:07:07,920 --> 00:07:09,480 Speaker 3: with GQ Magazine was what. 147 00:07:10,520 --> 00:07:13,920 Speaker 5: I think that only a guy that's already had his 148 00:07:13,960 --> 00:07:17,880 Speaker 5: career could say this like the balls of somebody to 149 00:07:18,000 --> 00:07:22,200 Speaker 5: say in GQ to your fans that maybe something was 150 00:07:22,200 --> 00:07:26,320 Speaker 5: distracting me from doing the ultimate thing last year and 151 00:07:26,400 --> 00:07:30,200 Speaker 5: went in a Super Bowl. You can't a first or 152 00:07:30,200 --> 00:07:33,200 Speaker 5: second year player can't admit this. Even a midstream player 153 00:07:33,240 --> 00:07:36,400 Speaker 5: can't admit this. So I kind of admire it for 154 00:07:36,480 --> 00:07:39,920 Speaker 5: being refreshing that you just don't hear people admit to this. 155 00:07:41,240 --> 00:07:43,840 Speaker 5: You know for a fact that it has happened in 156 00:07:43,880 --> 00:07:46,480 Speaker 5: other cases, but they never admit it. In fact, they 157 00:07:46,520 --> 00:07:49,600 Speaker 5: emphatically deny it and they get offended by it. So 158 00:07:49,680 --> 00:07:52,080 Speaker 5: that was kind of my takeaway. It's either refreshing to 159 00:07:52,160 --> 00:07:55,440 Speaker 5: hear or if I'm a Chiefs fan, that's kind of 160 00:07:55,440 --> 00:07:57,160 Speaker 5: a punch in the gut a little bit, is it not? 161 00:07:58,040 --> 00:08:00,640 Speaker 4: If it was year five Travis kel who's coming off 162 00:08:00,640 --> 00:08:02,600 Speaker 4: of Pro Bowl and then in you know, year sixy 163 00:08:02,600 --> 00:08:05,000 Speaker 4: had a down year, that would make more sense to me, 164 00:08:05,280 --> 00:08:08,600 Speaker 4: like it would be a valid option for him to 165 00:08:08,600 --> 00:08:12,080 Speaker 4: go that route. Him going that route when we know 166 00:08:13,080 --> 00:08:15,880 Speaker 4: that he's telling off and he's done, you know, it's just, yeah, 167 00:08:16,000 --> 00:08:18,280 Speaker 4: that part just doesn't It doesn't ring true to me 168 00:08:18,320 --> 00:08:21,560 Speaker 4: at all. It feels like something that's trying to buffer 169 00:08:21,960 --> 00:08:23,640 Speaker 4: the last two years, which I don't know why he 170 00:08:23,680 --> 00:08:24,120 Speaker 4: would do that. 171 00:08:24,400 --> 00:08:26,800 Speaker 3: I would rather say this is a weird pride thing. 172 00:08:26,840 --> 00:08:30,480 Speaker 3: And that's why I side with what you're saying. Not 173 00:08:30,560 --> 00:08:32,400 Speaker 3: that I'm against what Jason says, but I think that 174 00:08:32,440 --> 00:08:35,840 Speaker 3: you're you're on target with what he says. It's easier 175 00:08:35,840 --> 00:08:39,160 Speaker 3: to say I just I didn't try, rather than to say, like, 176 00:08:39,280 --> 00:08:41,679 Speaker 3: I don't have it if I don't have it anymore. 177 00:08:42,000 --> 00:08:44,200 Speaker 3: And the reason why maybe he can say that is 178 00:08:44,240 --> 00:08:46,439 Speaker 3: because he did have it at one time, whereas someone 179 00:08:46,840 --> 00:08:50,080 Speaker 3: who didn't ever have it, you really can't take any 180 00:08:50,080 --> 00:08:51,880 Speaker 3: stock into what you're saying. So the fact that we're 181 00:08:51,880 --> 00:08:55,320 Speaker 3: even considering it shows you what Travis Kelcey accomplished throughout 182 00:08:55,360 --> 00:08:58,560 Speaker 3: his career. But I think that your point is exactly right. 183 00:08:58,720 --> 00:09:01,760 Speaker 3: The we want want to know if all right, is 184 00:09:01,800 --> 00:09:05,200 Speaker 3: it the is it the girlfriend now fiance that's the 185 00:09:05,240 --> 00:09:08,160 Speaker 3: biggest pop star in the world. Well, I think that's 186 00:09:08,200 --> 00:09:10,400 Speaker 3: the rumors, right, That's that's the whole deal. Maybe we'll 187 00:09:10,400 --> 00:09:13,280 Speaker 3: find out in two hours as they're dropping albums and 188 00:09:13,320 --> 00:09:15,960 Speaker 3: everything of the New Heights podcast. But all of that 189 00:09:16,120 --> 00:09:19,440 Speaker 3: is going on, but he's gonna point to these other things. 190 00:09:19,440 --> 00:09:22,640 Speaker 3: So it's not the relationship, it's not the play. It's 191 00:09:22,679 --> 00:09:25,720 Speaker 3: not it's not me wearing down as a player and 192 00:09:25,760 --> 00:09:29,280 Speaker 3: just getting older. It's FX and it's the Amazon Game 193 00:09:29,360 --> 00:09:31,400 Speaker 3: show and it's all of that stuff. And I think 194 00:09:31,440 --> 00:09:36,560 Speaker 3: that's that's easy to point to. The The thing that 195 00:09:36,720 --> 00:09:41,360 Speaker 3: just makes me laugh about this whole thing is this 196 00:09:41,520 --> 00:09:46,640 Speaker 3: isn't too Diana Rossini of The Athletic, This isn't to ESPN. 197 00:09:47,600 --> 00:09:52,719 Speaker 3: This is the GQ magazine. Okay, so this is like, 198 00:09:53,200 --> 00:09:56,880 Speaker 3: this is like, guess what I'm done doing nudes to 199 00:09:56,960 --> 00:09:59,679 Speaker 3: playgirl magazine. Like that's what that's what it would be. 200 00:09:59,760 --> 00:10:03,000 Speaker 3: I'm not going to eat meat anymore to carnivores. Only 201 00:10:03,120 --> 00:10:05,040 Speaker 3: that Like that's the like, that's what he's doing. He's like, 202 00:10:05,400 --> 00:10:08,080 Speaker 3: I've lost my way in speaking the GQ. 203 00:10:08,080 --> 00:10:12,679 Speaker 6: Magazine like like this is this is the Like that's 204 00:10:12,760 --> 00:10:15,400 Speaker 6: the part. Also, I'm going to you and going to 205 00:10:15,440 --> 00:10:18,080 Speaker 6: your side and being like, yeah, like I don't think 206 00:10:18,160 --> 00:10:20,839 Speaker 6: that you truly believe any. 207 00:10:20,640 --> 00:10:23,720 Speaker 3: Of of that other stuff. I think you don't want 208 00:10:23,720 --> 00:10:25,720 Speaker 3: to believe that you lost a step yep. And it's 209 00:10:25,720 --> 00:10:29,360 Speaker 3: easy to point to that other stuff. And by the way, 210 00:10:29,559 --> 00:10:31,600 Speaker 3: more more power to you if you can be the 211 00:10:31,640 --> 00:10:35,280 Speaker 3: cover person on GQ. I'm not. I'm just it's funny 212 00:10:35,320 --> 00:10:38,320 Speaker 3: to me to sit there and to read an article 213 00:10:38,440 --> 00:10:41,880 Speaker 3: in GQ about how committed Travis Kelce is the football? 214 00:10:43,480 --> 00:10:46,320 Speaker 3: Am I wrong? Like like this is? That's the part 215 00:10:46,400 --> 00:10:50,199 Speaker 3: that it just it made me chuckle because that's not 216 00:10:50,240 --> 00:10:52,280 Speaker 3: necessarily where I thought I would I would be able 217 00:10:52,320 --> 00:10:53,280 Speaker 3: to read that sort of artist. 218 00:10:53,360 --> 00:10:55,520 Speaker 4: So, Dan, you're trying to say GQ doesn't put out 219 00:10:55,600 --> 00:10:56,920 Speaker 4: legit articles, what are you doing? 220 00:10:57,040 --> 00:11:00,320 Speaker 3: What's going on saying is that your interests are in 221 00:11:00,400 --> 00:11:04,520 Speaker 3: other areas, and GQ magazine is probably one of those areas. 222 00:11:04,640 --> 00:11:05,640 Speaker 3: It's a terrible cover too. 223 00:11:05,679 --> 00:11:07,959 Speaker 4: Right away, I'm sorry, I'm kind of hating I'm kind 224 00:11:07,960 --> 00:11:11,400 Speaker 4: of hating coat. Yeah, it was a like a bare 225 00:11:11,440 --> 00:11:12,760 Speaker 4: head on top of his head or something. 226 00:11:12,840 --> 00:11:15,079 Speaker 3: Was it? Was it that extreme? Or am I exaggerating? 227 00:11:15,120 --> 00:11:16,640 Speaker 3: I thought it was some fir thing. I didn't get 228 00:11:16,640 --> 00:11:18,640 Speaker 3: the whole, the whole sort of deal I was. I 229 00:11:18,679 --> 00:11:21,120 Speaker 3: didn't see the entire picture. But he was brooding. He 230 00:11:21,120 --> 00:11:22,360 Speaker 3: had a brooding look on his face. 231 00:11:22,400 --> 00:11:24,200 Speaker 4: It was crazy, man. But again, listen to listen to 232 00:11:24,240 --> 00:11:28,679 Speaker 4: this right, So, the greatest of all time. He was 233 00:11:28,760 --> 00:11:32,439 Speaker 4: filming a movie, an animated movie that was one of 234 00:11:32,480 --> 00:11:38,000 Speaker 4: the biggest movies at the time, Michael Jordan, right, while 235 00:11:38,040 --> 00:11:41,400 Speaker 4: also preparing for a season where they came back and 236 00:11:41,440 --> 00:11:43,440 Speaker 4: won a championship and they had the best team, the 237 00:11:43,480 --> 00:11:46,000 Speaker 4: best record up until the Golden State Wars came and 238 00:11:46,000 --> 00:11:48,559 Speaker 4: broke that record. They won seventy two games. He filmed 239 00:11:48,600 --> 00:11:52,280 Speaker 4: the movie, he actually set his workout schedule early in 240 00:11:52,320 --> 00:11:53,959 Speaker 4: the morning. He would get his work out in early 241 00:11:54,000 --> 00:11:56,360 Speaker 4: in the morning. So as far as being able to 242 00:11:56,480 --> 00:12:00,920 Speaker 4: do both, in general, it can be done. So that's 243 00:12:00,960 --> 00:12:03,120 Speaker 4: not an excuse. Number one, Like if he can go 244 00:12:03,200 --> 00:12:04,959 Speaker 4: out and film a whole movie where he's in the 245 00:12:05,000 --> 00:12:09,040 Speaker 4: whole movie and he's carrying the movie Michael Jordan, workout, 246 00:12:09,360 --> 00:12:12,600 Speaker 4: play games after filming, and then do it all over 247 00:12:12,640 --> 00:12:16,120 Speaker 4: again the next day. Like there's no reason for any 248 00:12:16,160 --> 00:12:18,719 Speaker 4: player to say that something else got in the way 249 00:12:18,760 --> 00:12:20,640 Speaker 4: when you commit it to what you committed to. And 250 00:12:20,679 --> 00:12:23,360 Speaker 4: so you know he's been committed to football. If he wasn't, 251 00:12:23,520 --> 00:12:25,360 Speaker 4: Andy Reed wouldn't allow him to play or be a 252 00:12:25,400 --> 00:12:26,320 Speaker 4: part of what's going on. 253 00:12:26,440 --> 00:12:27,680 Speaker 3: Like and it reads the. 254 00:12:27,640 --> 00:12:29,480 Speaker 4: Old school coulture, you know what I mean, Like, so 255 00:12:29,559 --> 00:12:33,040 Speaker 4: that stuff doesn't even I don't get with that at all. 256 00:12:33,080 --> 00:12:35,360 Speaker 4: And so when you just can't like take what the 257 00:12:35,400 --> 00:12:38,640 Speaker 4: real the realism of all of this and say, you 258 00:12:38,679 --> 00:12:41,199 Speaker 4: know what, again, I'm getting older, I gotta find new 259 00:12:41,200 --> 00:12:42,960 Speaker 4: ways to get open and help my team win. I 260 00:12:42,960 --> 00:12:44,440 Speaker 4: think that would have been the better thing for me 261 00:12:44,480 --> 00:12:44,719 Speaker 4: to hear. 262 00:12:45,200 --> 00:12:48,600 Speaker 3: I love when bands admit their album's stunk, right like 263 00:12:48,640 --> 00:12:50,880 Speaker 3: when when it bobs like that. You'll hear that and 264 00:12:50,920 --> 00:12:52,960 Speaker 3: it may be in to promote the next album, but 265 00:12:53,000 --> 00:12:55,960 Speaker 3: they'll just be like, yeah, we just it wasn't. It 266 00:12:55,960 --> 00:12:58,920 Speaker 3: wasn't there. They look back and say it was missing there. 267 00:12:58,960 --> 00:13:01,840 Speaker 3: There was just something wasn't And maybe in this time 268 00:13:01,840 --> 00:13:04,600 Speaker 3: with Travis Kelcey, he'll look back and say that if 269 00:13:04,600 --> 00:13:06,840 Speaker 3: he has a great year, and that will be the problem. 270 00:13:06,920 --> 00:13:10,400 Speaker 3: But again, I think I'm leaning more towards towards where 271 00:13:10,440 --> 00:13:12,439 Speaker 3: you are and that he doesn't have it because also 272 00:13:13,040 --> 00:13:16,960 Speaker 3: in this piece with GQ, it focused on how he's 273 00:13:17,000 --> 00:13:21,640 Speaker 3: prepping for the upcoming season and has added a a 274 00:13:21,720 --> 00:13:25,400 Speaker 3: speed coach, a speed and agility coach to his repertoire, 275 00:13:25,440 --> 00:13:29,080 Speaker 3: and so he's been working out in Florida and the 276 00:13:29,200 --> 00:13:32,000 Speaker 3: point that was made as part of this article is 277 00:13:32,040 --> 00:13:36,240 Speaker 3: that Travis Kelcey is the most effective when he's running 278 00:13:36,280 --> 00:13:39,559 Speaker 3: between twelve and sixteen miles per hour. Now, this isn't 279 00:13:39,679 --> 00:13:41,440 Speaker 3: meant to get into the weeds. It's just that if 280 00:13:41,480 --> 00:13:44,200 Speaker 3: he runs full speed, nineteen miles per hour was a 281 00:13:44,240 --> 00:13:47,079 Speaker 3: top speed they had clocked him at in a Super Bowl. 282 00:13:47,320 --> 00:13:49,800 Speaker 3: He does not have the ability then to move his 283 00:13:49,880 --> 00:13:53,199 Speaker 3: body and elude defenders like he would normally do. And 284 00:13:53,200 --> 00:13:56,720 Speaker 3: I'm curious as a player like you hear that Travis 285 00:13:56,800 --> 00:14:01,040 Speaker 3: Kelcey at times looks slow on the field, like just 286 00:14:01,120 --> 00:14:03,760 Speaker 3: like maybe it's because he's so massive in a certain way, 287 00:14:04,120 --> 00:14:06,240 Speaker 3: but also now it's like, is he not going to 288 00:14:06,280 --> 00:14:08,920 Speaker 3: full he's not going full speed. Do you think that's 289 00:14:08,920 --> 00:14:10,600 Speaker 3: a cover up for him losing a step or do 290 00:14:10,600 --> 00:14:13,280 Speaker 3: you think that that is an actual excuse? Is someone 291 00:14:13,320 --> 00:14:15,880 Speaker 3: who's spent eight years in the National Football League when 292 00:14:15,920 --> 00:14:18,560 Speaker 3: we have a speed coach? Is that is that bologney 293 00:14:18,640 --> 00:14:21,560 Speaker 3: or is that something that we could legitimately take up 294 00:14:21,600 --> 00:14:26,240 Speaker 3: and say, Okay, that's a legitimate, legitimate thing that Travis 295 00:14:26,320 --> 00:14:28,160 Speaker 3: Kelsey does when he plays. No, it's blooney. 296 00:14:28,600 --> 00:14:33,600 Speaker 4: How many tight ends are out running anybody anyway? You're 297 00:14:33,640 --> 00:14:36,960 Speaker 4: not out running corners because because he's such a good player, 298 00:14:37,000 --> 00:14:39,120 Speaker 4: you're gonna put probably one of your best cover guys 299 00:14:39,120 --> 00:14:41,640 Speaker 4: on him. So he's never beaten anybody with speed, He's 300 00:14:41,640 --> 00:14:44,560 Speaker 4: beaten him with positioning, he's beaten him with the christness 301 00:14:45,160 --> 00:14:47,920 Speaker 4: that he runs his routes, and that part of it 302 00:14:47,960 --> 00:14:49,560 Speaker 4: is just not there right now. He can't get in 303 00:14:49,600 --> 00:14:53,200 Speaker 4: and out of breaks, click identifying defenses. He will always know, 304 00:14:53,320 --> 00:14:55,280 Speaker 4: but that's part of it. It is not straight straight 305 00:14:55,320 --> 00:14:56,320 Speaker 4: ahead speed anyway. 306 00:14:56,400 --> 00:14:59,440 Speaker 3: Ever. That's very interesting, Yeah, because that's what they're saying here, 307 00:14:59,600 --> 00:15:01,360 Speaker 3: is that when and he's running at twelve to sixteen, 308 00:15:01,360 --> 00:15:05,080 Speaker 3: he has more ability to move and elude defenders, and 309 00:15:05,120 --> 00:15:07,280 Speaker 3: he can separate from a linebacker at that speed. He 310 00:15:07,320 --> 00:15:09,480 Speaker 3: doesn't need to be at nineteen miles per hour. But 311 00:15:09,560 --> 00:15:11,280 Speaker 3: it seems like it's more trying to add to a 312 00:15:11,360 --> 00:15:13,720 Speaker 3: narrative that he hasn't lost a step. The pr span 313 00:15:13,880 --> 00:15:17,160 Speaker 3: is impeccable right now with no, you're right, you're one 314 00:15:17,200 --> 00:15:20,120 Speaker 3: hundred percent. That's all I hear, if that's what it is. Yeah, 315 00:15:20,120 --> 00:15:21,800 Speaker 3: And I just point to the fact of the two 316 00:15:21,880 --> 00:15:24,120 Speaker 3: years ago when on a bye week he flew to 317 00:15:24,160 --> 00:15:27,360 Speaker 3: South America to see Taylor Swift in concert. Yeah, and 318 00:15:27,440 --> 00:15:29,440 Speaker 3: I know that's not brought up. I have actually have 319 00:15:29,520 --> 00:15:33,160 Speaker 3: no problem with him doing an off season TV show. No, 320 00:15:33,360 --> 00:15:36,480 Speaker 3: Jordan is like the one of one of doing what 321 00:15:36,920 --> 00:15:39,640 Speaker 3: he and there's really nobody else that can do that. 322 00:15:40,160 --> 00:15:42,840 Speaker 3: Even other players will bring up Shudor Sanders Shore Sanders 323 00:15:42,880 --> 00:15:44,640 Speaker 3: wants to work on music in his downtime when he's 324 00:15:44,640 --> 00:15:48,040 Speaker 3: sitting at home and done with practice. Go right ahead, now, 325 00:15:48,360 --> 00:15:50,080 Speaker 3: we don't want you to play twelve hours of Call 326 00:15:50,120 --> 00:15:52,800 Speaker 3: of Duty like Kyler Murray, you know, supposedly used to. 327 00:15:53,200 --> 00:15:54,880 Speaker 3: I don't think that's a great use of time, but 328 00:15:55,440 --> 00:15:57,040 Speaker 3: you do have to have an escape. You do have 329 00:15:57,040 --> 00:16:00,200 Speaker 3: a Tuesday off day. I hate comparing real world to 330 00:16:00,360 --> 00:16:02,680 Speaker 3: your world of an athlete, like the nine to five 331 00:16:02,720 --> 00:16:05,440 Speaker 3: Monday through Friday job or the factory job. I hate 332 00:16:05,520 --> 00:16:08,160 Speaker 3: comparing it to professional athletes. But it's the same way. 333 00:16:08,200 --> 00:16:10,360 Speaker 3: If we're going to be critical of an athlete doing something, 334 00:16:10,560 --> 00:16:13,080 Speaker 3: we'd have to be critical of somebody going somewhere on 335 00:16:13,080 --> 00:16:15,000 Speaker 3: a Saturday or Sunday on their week off. Like it's 336 00:16:15,040 --> 00:16:17,640 Speaker 3: just at some point you need some escape. Even if 337 00:16:17,680 --> 00:16:20,000 Speaker 3: you're you're in a season, and granted you have an 338 00:16:20,040 --> 00:16:22,080 Speaker 3: off season, but your off season isn't like an offseason, 339 00:16:22,160 --> 00:16:24,600 Speaker 3: you have mini camps and the whole deal. So that's 340 00:16:24,760 --> 00:16:27,160 Speaker 3: why I just I don't love to compare the two, 341 00:16:27,640 --> 00:16:31,360 Speaker 3: but it just seems like they're picking spots of the 342 00:16:31,400 --> 00:16:34,320 Speaker 3: TV show, the game show, and nothing else around it. 343 00:16:34,440 --> 00:16:36,600 Speaker 3: That's what it is. But all that's off season stuff, 344 00:16:37,080 --> 00:16:40,120 Speaker 3: and to me, I don't think that would affect it. 345 00:16:40,560 --> 00:16:43,680 Speaker 3: But also like when you're just looking at this world 346 00:16:43,760 --> 00:16:47,960 Speaker 3: here that does the game show in August or July 347 00:16:48,080 --> 00:16:51,040 Speaker 3: of twenty twenty four, June of twenty twenty four, does 348 00:16:51,080 --> 00:16:53,440 Speaker 3: that come back February twenty twenty five when you're not 349 00:16:53,480 --> 00:16:56,120 Speaker 3: putting forth the effort in the Super Bowl? Does it 350 00:16:56,600 --> 00:16:58,680 Speaker 3: go through weeks one through eighteen at that point? I 351 00:16:58,680 --> 00:17:01,960 Speaker 3: don't think it does. Yeah, I agree with you. I 352 00:17:02,240 --> 00:17:06,120 Speaker 3: think that this is kind of a cover up, if 353 00:17:06,160 --> 00:17:08,040 Speaker 3: you will, on what the real problem is with Travis 354 00:17:08,119 --> 00:17:10,560 Speaker 3: Kelce and it doesn't come off. It doesn't come off great. 355 00:17:10,720 --> 00:17:11,960 Speaker 3: Like again, yes, you want to. 356 00:17:11,880 --> 00:17:15,879 Speaker 4: Be forward and up right and up forth and have 357 00:17:16,000 --> 00:17:18,640 Speaker 4: that type of energy, but again, some things are better 358 00:17:18,720 --> 00:17:19,280 Speaker 4: left and said. 359 00:17:19,280 --> 00:17:20,399 Speaker 3: We already kind of know the answer to. 360 00:17:20,440 --> 00:17:23,639 Speaker 5: That, don't you think, though, I mean, and I'm starting 361 00:17:23,720 --> 00:17:26,320 Speaker 5: to I'm starting to kind of agree with your side 362 00:17:26,320 --> 00:17:28,520 Speaker 5: of this here, but there's don't you agree it's a 363 00:17:28,520 --> 00:17:32,159 Speaker 5: strange way to cover something up by welcoming a whole 364 00:17:32,320 --> 00:17:36,159 Speaker 5: new thing of criticism, Like I know, going on GQ, 365 00:17:36,320 --> 00:17:38,920 Speaker 5: if you're saying that he's speaking to a certain audience 366 00:17:38,960 --> 00:17:41,879 Speaker 5: and that maybe maybe we over here wouldn't have gotten 367 00:17:41,880 --> 00:17:46,040 Speaker 5: the information. But it just seems like he's welcoming a 368 00:17:46,080 --> 00:17:50,399 Speaker 5: whole batch of criticism by admitting to being distracted to 369 00:17:50,520 --> 00:17:52,520 Speaker 5: an entire fan base who is trying to win a 370 00:17:52,560 --> 00:17:53,800 Speaker 5: third straight Super Bowl. 371 00:17:53,920 --> 00:17:57,200 Speaker 3: Right. We all know someone who loves to admit when 372 00:17:57,200 --> 00:18:02,480 Speaker 3: they're wrong because they get the soft landing. Someone says, 373 00:18:02,680 --> 00:18:05,080 Speaker 3: you know what, I messed up. I can't do that again. 374 00:18:05,160 --> 00:18:07,760 Speaker 3: What is your natural response? Hey man, there'll be so 375 00:18:07,800 --> 00:18:09,879 Speaker 3: hard on yourself, like you've done a really good job. 376 00:18:10,440 --> 00:18:13,960 Speaker 3: It's an actual tactic that I think that people will use, 377 00:18:14,400 --> 00:18:17,600 Speaker 3: where they will admit what they want to admit is wrong. 378 00:18:17,680 --> 00:18:19,120 Speaker 3: And I think that's part of it is he doesn't 379 00:18:19,119 --> 00:18:21,000 Speaker 3: want to admit that he lost a step or he 380 00:18:21,040 --> 00:18:23,440 Speaker 3: doesn't want to admit and I don't think his relationship 381 00:18:23,480 --> 00:18:24,560 Speaker 3: had anything to do with it. I don't think he 382 00:18:24,560 --> 00:18:26,400 Speaker 3: should have gone to South America on a bye week. 383 00:18:27,000 --> 00:18:28,879 Speaker 3: But then the NFL is like, well, to cover it up, 384 00:18:28,880 --> 00:18:31,560 Speaker 3: we'll send teams to South America. You know, I'm just kidding, 385 00:18:31,600 --> 00:18:34,960 Speaker 3: but the I don't like those areas aren't being touched. 386 00:18:34,960 --> 00:18:38,760 Speaker 3: He's pointed to two off season entities of acting on 387 00:18:38,840 --> 00:18:42,119 Speaker 3: TV that I think are easy to point to, and 388 00:18:42,119 --> 00:18:45,399 Speaker 3: then when you say, guess what, I lost a step, 389 00:18:45,440 --> 00:18:48,119 Speaker 3: then you're like, you know what, man, you help us 390 00:18:48,119 --> 00:18:50,959 Speaker 3: win three super Bowls. I can't wait for the upcoming season. 391 00:18:51,040 --> 00:18:53,640 Speaker 3: Instead of being like, why have you slacked off these 392 00:18:53,720 --> 00:18:56,160 Speaker 3: last three years? Why are you just riding into the sunset. 393 00:18:56,400 --> 00:18:59,439 Speaker 3: They try to take control of the narrative by admitting 394 00:18:59,440 --> 00:19:02,080 Speaker 3: they're wrong, but they only want to admit what they 395 00:19:02,119 --> 00:19:04,640 Speaker 3: want to admit because then they know the other parties 396 00:19:04,680 --> 00:19:06,720 Speaker 3: will respond in that way. 397 00:19:06,920 --> 00:19:09,120 Speaker 4: Jay, STU, think about this. Out of those three things 398 00:19:09,119 --> 00:19:13,160 Speaker 4: that we just talked about, the TV show, the hosting gig, 399 00:19:13,840 --> 00:19:15,760 Speaker 4: and not being able to do it anymore, which one 400 00:19:15,800 --> 00:19:16,120 Speaker 4: is worse? 401 00:19:18,280 --> 00:19:22,439 Speaker 5: Which one is worse from the standpoint of a fan base? Yeah, like, 402 00:19:22,520 --> 00:19:24,160 Speaker 5: what's more of an indictment? 403 00:19:24,280 --> 00:19:24,480 Speaker 3: Yeah? 404 00:19:25,920 --> 00:19:28,520 Speaker 4: Out of those three, the last one you mentioned exactly, 405 00:19:28,880 --> 00:19:32,199 Speaker 4: and he didn't mention that one, So that tells me 406 00:19:32,240 --> 00:19:33,040 Speaker 4: what it is right. 407 00:19:32,880 --> 00:19:35,920 Speaker 3: There, those are the blame. That's why he didn't. It's 408 00:19:35,960 --> 00:19:37,800 Speaker 3: that TV show, which is why he only had eight 409 00:19:37,840 --> 00:19:38,960 Speaker 3: hundred and twenty three yards. 410 00:19:39,040 --> 00:19:41,399 Speaker 4: Imagine telling you your fan base, Dan, and you and 411 00:19:41,440 --> 00:19:43,560 Speaker 4: your teammates. I can't do it anymore, but I'm coming 412 00:19:43,560 --> 00:19:46,320 Speaker 4: out here again for year seventeen or whatever it is. Right, Yeah, 413 00:19:46,359 --> 00:19:48,600 Speaker 4: that would be even more selfish any other things. 414 00:19:48,600 --> 00:19:50,440 Speaker 3: That's an interesting way to put it. And again, doesn't 415 00:19:50,440 --> 00:19:52,960 Speaker 3: seem like the Chiefs have ever planned for this for 416 00:19:53,040 --> 00:19:55,800 Speaker 3: thereaton the next era of Travis Kelcey, And though they've 417 00:19:55,800 --> 00:19:58,920 Speaker 3: had a couple of guys. Noah Gray is in there 418 00:19:59,640 --> 00:20:03,400 Speaker 3: as a part possibility, but you know there was. They're 419 00:20:03,440 --> 00:20:05,960 Speaker 3: a team that could use that next era tight end 420 00:20:05,960 --> 00:20:08,640 Speaker 3: and they haven't moved on from it necessarily, And they've 421 00:20:08,720 --> 00:20:12,840 Speaker 3: tried to get outside guys to help to help Patrick Mahomes. 422 00:20:12,880 --> 00:20:17,320 Speaker 3: Maybe they need somebody that's like Travis Kelcey to help 423 00:20:17,560 --> 00:20:21,720 Speaker 3: cure those offensive question for you, Dan, what if? What if? 424 00:20:21,880 --> 00:20:23,639 Speaker 3: What if he wasn't with Taylor Swift right now? 425 00:20:23,640 --> 00:20:25,280 Speaker 4: Would they still have him on the team after the 426 00:20:25,359 --> 00:20:27,280 Speaker 4: last two years in his performance, Yes. 427 00:20:27,200 --> 00:20:29,920 Speaker 3: Yes, I do think Okay, yes, right, I don't think 428 00:20:29,920 --> 00:20:32,600 Speaker 3: that Taylor Swift has that much power. Again, he won, 429 00:20:33,200 --> 00:20:36,600 Speaker 3: he won Super Bowls before he met on Taylor Swift. Sure, 430 00:20:36,680 --> 00:20:38,760 Speaker 3: so so like in the reason and that's probably you know, 431 00:20:38,920 --> 00:20:42,040 Speaker 3: it helps it helps me, Travis Kelce like, I get 432 00:20:42,080 --> 00:20:44,040 Speaker 3: all of that. So there's just a lot of equity 433 00:20:45,000 --> 00:20:47,639 Speaker 3: in there, and there are probably very few people that 434 00:20:47,720 --> 00:20:50,439 Speaker 3: can say what he said. It's just do you believe 435 00:20:50,440 --> 00:20:53,080 Speaker 3: what he's actually saying? For sure? We'll find out over 436 00:20:53,119 --> 00:20:57,480 Speaker 3: eighteen weeks, starting the week of the first week of September. 437 00:20:57,480 --> 00:21:00,240 Speaker 3: He's Carry Roads. I'm Dan Byer. Jason Stewarts here up 438 00:21:00,240 --> 00:21:02,520 Speaker 3: at Jason Stewart. 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One super fan and 449 00:21:32,880 --> 00:21:34,840 Speaker 3: I don't know if he's a super fan, but he's 450 00:21:34,840 --> 00:21:38,359 Speaker 3: sure a celebrity fan doesn't have much faith in Jerry 451 00:21:38,480 --> 00:21:42,440 Speaker 3: Jones or what the Dallas Cowboys are doing. Hit carry 452 00:21:42,480 --> 00:21:44,240 Speaker 3: up at Carrie twenty five Roads. You can find me 453 00:21:44,359 --> 00:21:48,240 Speaker 3: at Dan Byer on Fox. Max tweets into the show 454 00:21:48,280 --> 00:21:51,240 Speaker 3: and the conversation we were just talking about with record breaking. 455 00:21:51,880 --> 00:21:54,720 Speaker 3: As a Tigers fan, I'd much rather see Cal Rawley, 456 00:21:54,800 --> 00:21:57,199 Speaker 3: the big Dumper, hold the Ale home run record than 457 00:21:57,200 --> 00:22:00,520 Speaker 3: any Yankee. So there it goes. There's a different way 458 00:22:00,560 --> 00:22:03,840 Speaker 3: of looking at it, not wanting a Yankee to hold 459 00:22:03,880 --> 00:22:06,199 Speaker 3: the honors. So anybody but a Yankee, whether it be 460 00:22:06,320 --> 00:22:09,680 Speaker 3: cal Rale, a Mariner, or anybody else, to take away 461 00:22:09,720 --> 00:22:13,280 Speaker 3: the Ale home run record from Aaron Judge. Max is 462 00:22:13,320 --> 00:22:15,919 Speaker 3: happy with that. That's how you can reach us on 463 00:22:16,200 --> 00:22:18,840 Speaker 3: X again at Carrie twenty five Roads at Dan Byron Fox, 464 00:22:18,920 --> 00:22:21,840 Speaker 3: Jason Stewart's our executive producer, Ryan Smith on the Ones 465 00:22:21,840 --> 00:22:24,320 Speaker 3: and twos, and Chris purfett Is at the news desk. 466 00:22:24,480 --> 00:22:27,760 Speaker 3: I mentioned Denzel Washington. Did you know that Denzel Washington 467 00:22:28,560 --> 00:22:32,000 Speaker 3: was a huge Cowboys fan? No, I did not know that. 468 00:22:32,080 --> 00:22:35,199 Speaker 3: I didn't know. I didn't know that either. What I 469 00:22:35,200 --> 00:22:38,080 Speaker 3: find so interesting if there was one team you could 470 00:22:38,080 --> 00:22:41,640 Speaker 3: pick Denzel Washington to be a fan of in all sports, 471 00:22:41,640 --> 00:22:43,040 Speaker 3: who do you think it would have been? 472 00:22:43,320 --> 00:22:44,560 Speaker 4: I thought it would have been one of the big 473 00:22:44,600 --> 00:22:48,240 Speaker 4: cities that New York or an LA type of situation. 474 00:22:48,280 --> 00:22:50,440 Speaker 3: I think the Lakers, because I feel like we see 475 00:22:50,520 --> 00:22:53,240 Speaker 3: him a lot at Laker games. I get, you're an actor, 476 00:22:53,320 --> 00:22:56,640 Speaker 3: you live in southern California. The Lakers are the scene. 477 00:22:57,200 --> 00:23:00,600 Speaker 3: But if I had to pick, you know who it 478 00:23:00,880 --> 00:23:04,520 Speaker 3: was on what team was his absolute favorite? I thought 479 00:23:04,560 --> 00:23:07,840 Speaker 3: it would be the Lakers. Now, in the picture that 480 00:23:07,960 --> 00:23:09,919 Speaker 3: was used in the article that was sent over to 481 00:23:10,040 --> 00:23:14,080 Speaker 3: us by our executive producer Jason Stewart, Denzel Washington is 482 00:23:14,119 --> 00:23:17,639 Speaker 3: wearing a Yankees cap, and now he's telling us that 483 00:23:17,680 --> 00:23:22,080 Speaker 3: he's been a Dallas Cowboys fan since the nineteen sixties. Like, 484 00:23:22,160 --> 00:23:25,800 Speaker 3: you could not pick three bigger brands that people despise 485 00:23:26,040 --> 00:23:31,399 Speaker 3: more than the Cowboys, Yankees, and Lakers. But Denzel is 486 00:23:31,440 --> 00:23:35,760 Speaker 3: the biggest star of the stars, and those are apparently 487 00:23:36,119 --> 00:23:37,639 Speaker 3: I'm just guessing. I don't know if the Yankees or not, 488 00:23:37,680 --> 00:23:40,320 Speaker 3: but he's wearing a Yankees cap. He actually came from 489 00:23:40,359 --> 00:23:42,320 Speaker 3: New York, so there could be some ties there with 490 00:23:42,400 --> 00:23:44,520 Speaker 3: the Yankees and would have a reason to be a 491 00:23:44,560 --> 00:23:47,160 Speaker 3: fan of them. But I think we all know someone 492 00:23:47,160 --> 00:23:49,400 Speaker 3: in our life who's a Cowboys, Yankees, or Laker fan. 493 00:23:49,680 --> 00:23:53,320 Speaker 3: And now we know that Denzel Washington is speaking with ESPN, 494 00:23:53,359 --> 00:23:56,320 Speaker 3: says he's been a Cowboys fan since the nineteen sixties 495 00:23:56,320 --> 00:23:59,160 Speaker 3: and that Jerry Jones is making it hard for him 496 00:23:59,160 --> 00:24:01,800 Speaker 3: as a fan not to be a fan because he 497 00:24:01,800 --> 00:24:03,920 Speaker 3: says he's always going to be a Cowboys fan. But quote, 498 00:24:03,920 --> 00:24:05,920 Speaker 3: I'm still going to have the star. Oh we actually 499 00:24:06,000 --> 00:24:08,359 Speaker 3: have the audio. Okay, all right, let's play from what 500 00:24:08,720 --> 00:24:11,639 Speaker 3: Denzel had to say on ESPN about the Cowboys and 501 00:24:11,720 --> 00:24:12,320 Speaker 3: Jerry Jones. 502 00:24:12,760 --> 00:24:16,160 Speaker 2: I've been a Cowboy fan since the sixties. He's making 503 00:24:16,200 --> 00:24:19,560 Speaker 2: it hard for me not to be a fan because 504 00:24:19,560 --> 00:24:21,560 Speaker 2: I'm still a Cowboy fan. I'm still gonna have to 505 00:24:21,560 --> 00:24:24,200 Speaker 2: start on the side of the hat. But he ain't 506 00:24:24,240 --> 00:24:29,040 Speaker 2: thinking about us. He's thinking about his pocket. Okay, I 507 00:24:29,040 --> 00:24:32,520 Speaker 2: mean Jerry Jones on the phone, Get him on the phone. 508 00:24:33,320 --> 00:24:35,400 Speaker 3: What does he say? You tell me? What does he say? 509 00:24:36,040 --> 00:24:38,960 Speaker 3: He says that he's getting rip my Cowboys. 510 00:24:39,640 --> 00:24:42,480 Speaker 8: We're the most successful brand in sports, you. 511 00:24:42,359 --> 00:24:44,000 Speaker 9: Know, you mean in terms of what championship? 512 00:24:44,160 --> 00:24:46,119 Speaker 3: No, of course he can't sayship. 513 00:24:47,280 --> 00:24:50,480 Speaker 8: Talking about recognition, notoriety, dollars and cents. 514 00:24:50,240 --> 00:24:50,800 Speaker 7: And sports that. 515 00:24:50,880 --> 00:24:52,359 Speaker 9: But in the end, one of the Yankee you. 516 00:24:52,400 --> 00:24:54,480 Speaker 8: Haven't been in an NFC championship game or Super Bowl 517 00:24:54,480 --> 00:24:58,560 Speaker 8: than thirty years. Thirty years, okay, and for some reason 518 00:24:58,680 --> 00:24:59,760 Speaker 8: he's just stubborn. 519 00:24:59,800 --> 00:24:59,960 Speaker 4: Man. 520 00:25:00,160 --> 00:25:02,879 Speaker 8: It just and then you got his son sitting there 521 00:25:02,920 --> 00:25:05,280 Speaker 8: talking about Michael Paus' is like, hey, he. 522 00:25:05,240 --> 00:25:08,680 Speaker 3: Gotta want to sign a contract. What makes no sense? Guys, 523 00:25:08,960 --> 00:25:09,600 Speaker 3: But you know this. 524 00:25:09,720 --> 00:25:16,080 Speaker 2: There's box office and there's Oscars. Jerry been a while, 525 00:25:16,320 --> 00:25:17,080 Speaker 2: he ain't been to the show. 526 00:25:17,080 --> 00:25:20,680 Speaker 3: You wouldn't know, geeze Dan. 527 00:25:21,480 --> 00:25:24,119 Speaker 4: The most impressive thing about all of this for me 528 00:25:24,440 --> 00:25:29,000 Speaker 4: is we finally found out who Denzel roots for in 529 00:25:29,000 --> 00:25:31,440 Speaker 4: twenty twenty five. He's living right as one of the 530 00:25:31,480 --> 00:25:33,720 Speaker 4: biggest stars in the world. The fact that we didn't 531 00:25:33,760 --> 00:25:36,080 Speaker 4: know that about him. He's living the way you probably 532 00:25:36,080 --> 00:25:38,480 Speaker 4: should live as a celebrity, don't. That's the thing about 533 00:25:38,480 --> 00:25:41,520 Speaker 4: Denzel that makes him still popular too. We don't know 534 00:25:41,680 --> 00:25:44,080 Speaker 4: anything about him. We don't know what he does outside 535 00:25:44,080 --> 00:25:46,440 Speaker 4: of acting, and I think that's impressive. 536 00:25:46,680 --> 00:25:48,520 Speaker 3: I thought it was impressive. I thought he was reading 537 00:25:48,520 --> 00:25:50,920 Speaker 3: a script when he first started talking everything he said 538 00:25:51,040 --> 00:25:54,200 Speaker 3: right like, I thought that he was in care Like listen, listen, 539 00:25:54,320 --> 00:25:57,479 Speaker 3: just to the beginning of this. This sounds like, uh, 540 00:25:57,640 --> 00:25:59,840 Speaker 3: this sounds like I went up, Now you're the actor, 541 00:26:00,080 --> 00:26:02,760 Speaker 3: I'll play the role. And I'm gonna say, you know what, 542 00:26:04,280 --> 00:26:05,480 Speaker 3: You're no Cowboys fan. 543 00:26:07,000 --> 00:26:09,160 Speaker 2: I've been a Cowboy fan since the sixties. 544 00:26:10,240 --> 00:26:14,320 Speaker 3: See like right there, Like that's that's in character, right, 545 00:26:14,640 --> 00:26:18,320 Speaker 3: You're no cowboy fan. It sounding good. You're no Cowboy fan, Denzel. 546 00:26:19,480 --> 00:26:22,520 Speaker 3: You know, cowboy fan. Play the butt again, Play the 547 00:26:22,520 --> 00:26:23,160 Speaker 3: butt again, and. 548 00:26:23,119 --> 00:26:26,000 Speaker 2: Play cowboy since the sixties. 549 00:26:26,560 --> 00:26:31,120 Speaker 3: Yes, yes, so cool. He's the best. So when Denzel 550 00:26:31,280 --> 00:26:35,680 Speaker 3: Washington is now a Cowboys fan, because we just kind 551 00:26:35,760 --> 00:26:38,840 Speaker 3: of I feel like we found out about it, I 552 00:26:38,880 --> 00:26:40,680 Speaker 3: can't call him a super fan. And I also don't 553 00:26:40,720 --> 00:26:42,840 Speaker 3: think you can be a super fan of three teams. 554 00:26:43,640 --> 00:26:45,719 Speaker 3: I think you can only be a super fan of 555 00:26:45,840 --> 00:26:49,600 Speaker 3: one team because that's what takes you down that road. 556 00:26:49,920 --> 00:26:53,720 Speaker 3: And they're super fans. They're celebrity super fans. When you 557 00:26:53,760 --> 00:26:56,760 Speaker 3: when you think of the Lakers. Who do you think 558 00:26:56,800 --> 00:27:00,800 Speaker 3: of as as their superfan Zach Nicholson, Yes, absolutely, I 559 00:27:00,880 --> 00:27:02,640 Speaker 3: think that there are second and third place. I actually 560 00:27:02,680 --> 00:27:05,399 Speaker 3: thought maybe Denzel could get a podium spot because I 561 00:27:05,400 --> 00:27:07,000 Speaker 3: feel like we see him a lot at Laker games, 562 00:27:07,000 --> 00:27:11,480 Speaker 3: like Flee right at Chili Peppers. Diane Cannon, we would 563 00:27:11,480 --> 00:27:14,840 Speaker 3: always see her at Laker games. So those are celebrities. 564 00:27:14,840 --> 00:27:18,720 Speaker 3: But Jack Nicholson probably the biggest celebrity sports fan that 565 00:27:18,760 --> 00:27:22,800 Speaker 3: there is. I'll say this, Paul Rudd and Eric stone Street. 566 00:27:23,080 --> 00:27:25,439 Speaker 3: Stone Street because a modern family and where he was 567 00:27:25,560 --> 00:27:29,040 Speaker 3: and plus during this decade of success, whether it be 568 00:27:29,080 --> 00:27:32,560 Speaker 3: the Royals in the Chiefs, like I feel like those 569 00:27:32,560 --> 00:27:36,280 Speaker 3: two guys because they're Kansas City fans, have gotten a 570 00:27:36,359 --> 00:27:41,320 Speaker 3: lot of run as celebrity fans of their hometown Kansas 571 00:27:41,320 --> 00:27:43,720 Speaker 3: City teams. So first it was the Royals, then it's 572 00:27:43,880 --> 00:27:46,480 Speaker 3: obviously the Chiefs over the past you know, seven or 573 00:27:46,480 --> 00:27:49,760 Speaker 3: eight years since they've been winning Super Bowls and going 574 00:27:49,840 --> 00:27:51,439 Speaker 3: to Super Bowls. But I feel like we get a 575 00:27:51,440 --> 00:27:54,800 Speaker 3: lot of Paul Rudd and a lot of Eric stone 576 00:27:54,800 --> 00:27:57,320 Speaker 3: Street when it comes to a team like Kansas City. 577 00:27:57,920 --> 00:28:00,880 Speaker 3: Other celebrity super fans that you can think of plus 578 00:28:00,880 --> 00:28:03,560 Speaker 3: we'll take your nominations at Carrie twenty five Roads. You 579 00:28:03,600 --> 00:28:05,880 Speaker 3: can find me at Dan Byer on Fox phone number 580 00:28:05,880 --> 00:28:08,560 Speaker 3: eight seven seven nine nine six six three six nine. 581 00:28:08,600 --> 00:28:10,600 Speaker 3: That's eight seven seven nine to nine on Fox. Who 582 00:28:10,600 --> 00:28:12,440 Speaker 3: pops up into your mind? That's quite a few. 583 00:28:12,480 --> 00:28:14,560 Speaker 4: And the one that I mean, obviously, this guy's not 584 00:28:14,560 --> 00:28:16,400 Speaker 4: a celebrity, and I'm a Jet guy. But I don't 585 00:28:16,400 --> 00:28:18,280 Speaker 4: know if you guys even know, but the Fireman Ed 586 00:28:19,040 --> 00:28:20,880 Speaker 4: as a as a Superjet fan, the guy. 587 00:28:20,680 --> 00:28:22,960 Speaker 3: That leads the Jets cheer all, he would be super fan. 588 00:28:23,520 --> 00:28:26,080 Speaker 3: Only do I know a Fireman D When I went 589 00:28:26,119 --> 00:28:29,040 Speaker 3: to a Jets game fourteen years ago. Uh, I've got 590 00:28:29,080 --> 00:28:33,760 Speaker 3: about eight videos of Fireman Ed leading cheers. There you go. 591 00:28:34,240 --> 00:28:36,280 Speaker 3: You weren't playing for them at the time. This is 592 00:28:36,280 --> 00:28:39,000 Speaker 3: about twenty eleven. I went to just a regular season game, 593 00:28:39,040 --> 00:28:40,800 Speaker 3: and that's that's really all it was. It's just I 594 00:28:40,800 --> 00:28:42,600 Speaker 3: wanted to see the stadium, wanted to see what the 595 00:28:42,600 --> 00:28:46,360 Speaker 3: atmosphere was like, and I wanted to see what Fireman 596 00:28:46,520 --> 00:28:49,280 Speaker 3: Ed did, and it was it was a deal. So 597 00:28:49,560 --> 00:28:53,320 Speaker 3: I'm totally down to the Fireman D. He's near the 598 00:28:53,320 --> 00:28:54,920 Speaker 3: top of the food chain. When I think of like 599 00:28:54,960 --> 00:28:57,320 Speaker 3: super fans one hundred percent. But I'll go, I guess 600 00:28:57,360 --> 00:28:59,680 Speaker 3: celebrity the one that we've seen the most and I 601 00:28:59,720 --> 00:29:02,840 Speaker 3: think with a kind of coincidence with their success is 602 00:29:03,280 --> 00:29:06,680 Speaker 3: Bradley Cooper with the Eagles. He's always there pretty much, 603 00:29:06,800 --> 00:29:09,800 Speaker 3: I mean for the big games, even when they're not big. Yeah, 604 00:29:09,840 --> 00:29:12,400 Speaker 3: and he's in the areas, he's there, So I'll give 605 00:29:12,480 --> 00:29:14,560 Speaker 3: him a little credit for sticking sticking with this team. 606 00:29:14,920 --> 00:29:19,000 Speaker 3: I had always thought that it was because he was 607 00:29:19,040 --> 00:29:22,200 Speaker 3: in that movie about the Eagles, like that's what And 608 00:29:22,240 --> 00:29:24,280 Speaker 3: then I'm like, I didn't know what came first, chicken 609 00:29:24,400 --> 00:29:25,960 Speaker 3: or the egg. And then I found out he's from 610 00:29:26,160 --> 00:29:28,360 Speaker 3: the area, So I didn't realize. But so when I'm like, oh, 611 00:29:28,400 --> 00:29:31,720 Speaker 3: that's that fits in just well that that he played 612 00:29:31,720 --> 00:29:34,160 Speaker 3: the role in. Was it Silver Linings Playbook? Yeah, that's 613 00:29:34,320 --> 00:29:36,880 Speaker 3: the name of the movie. Yeah. I think that he's 614 00:29:36,920 --> 00:29:41,680 Speaker 3: absolutely Jason Stewart's celebrity sports fans. So I have one. 615 00:29:41,720 --> 00:29:44,560 Speaker 5: But I did think as you guys were talking there, 616 00:29:45,160 --> 00:29:49,480 Speaker 5: I thought of an interesting subcategory of the adult world 617 00:29:50,280 --> 00:29:56,720 Speaker 5: super fans on only fans. Interesting subcategory, right, I'm sure 618 00:29:56,720 --> 00:30:03,040 Speaker 5: that's searched. Who matth McConaughey. I think is has reached 619 00:30:03,080 --> 00:30:09,760 Speaker 5: the point maybe of being obnoxious, because everything Longhorn all 620 00:30:09,800 --> 00:30:12,760 Speaker 5: of a sudden becomes about McConaughey, and he really loves 621 00:30:12,760 --> 00:30:15,320 Speaker 5: the attention. But it's the first thing that comes to 622 00:30:15,360 --> 00:30:15,760 Speaker 5: my mind. 623 00:30:16,760 --> 00:30:19,440 Speaker 3: I I remember being on the field for a game 624 00:30:19,440 --> 00:30:22,680 Speaker 3: that Texas won, like their Bowl game, and he's, you know, 625 00:30:22,840 --> 00:30:26,640 Speaker 3: amongst the amongst the crowd, and then the mix and everything. Yeah, 626 00:30:27,160 --> 00:30:29,280 Speaker 3: tried to try to steal a picture, tried to not 627 00:30:29,360 --> 00:30:31,360 Speaker 3: with him, but just of him. I think it did 628 00:30:31,360 --> 00:30:33,600 Speaker 3: a pretty good job. Chris Prophet so on. 629 00:30:33,800 --> 00:30:36,000 Speaker 1: I don't think she's on only fans. But you guys, 630 00:30:36,080 --> 00:30:39,840 Speaker 1: remember there was a no for Florida State. There was 631 00:30:39,880 --> 00:30:42,320 Speaker 1: like a a porn star fan who was trying to 632 00:30:42,360 --> 00:30:45,800 Speaker 1: attract like players to Florida State for the seminals. 633 00:30:47,560 --> 00:30:57,720 Speaker 3: Yeah, way to play stupid. Who is that we've left 634 00:30:57,760 --> 00:31:01,000 Speaker 3: like Ben Stiller, Tracy Moore on the board for the 635 00:31:01,080 --> 00:31:05,960 Speaker 3: for the Knicks, Right, Yeah, that's the big the biggest, 636 00:31:06,000 --> 00:31:10,560 Speaker 3: biggest one, probably of all of them. I was I 637 00:31:10,600 --> 00:31:12,959 Speaker 3: was about to write that. I wrote down Mary hart 638 00:31:13,480 --> 00:31:16,080 Speaker 3: uh behind him played for the Dodgers, right I obviously 639 00:31:16,240 --> 00:31:18,840 Speaker 3: her and Larry King when when Larry King used to 640 00:31:18,840 --> 00:31:22,120 Speaker 3: be a Dodger fan, you know r I p no 641 00:31:22,120 --> 00:31:25,240 Speaker 3: no longer no, no longer a member of this category. 642 00:31:25,280 --> 00:31:27,800 Speaker 3: But Chris go to Chris. He goes right to the adult. 643 00:31:28,160 --> 00:31:32,200 Speaker 3: But he found the pathway by using get I get accused. 644 00:31:32,440 --> 00:31:34,360 Speaker 3: I get accused all the time of making about Detroit. 645 00:31:34,400 --> 00:31:36,480 Speaker 3: I could have said, hell, hey, I got Tim Robinson, 646 00:31:36,960 --> 00:31:40,320 Speaker 3: Sam Richardsoner now like big Lions guys and everything and 647 00:31:40,480 --> 00:31:43,880 Speaker 3: never heard of no who was Who's the game? Who's 648 00:31:43,920 --> 00:31:48,800 Speaker 3: the video game? Ninja? Yes? Yeah, everyone thinks fan. 649 00:31:49,120 --> 00:31:52,360 Speaker 1: And also Bob Seeger is a big Lions. 650 00:31:52,080 --> 00:31:54,240 Speaker 3: Fan as well. That I could keep going back and 651 00:31:54,280 --> 00:31:57,640 Speaker 3: back with the Lions. Sure, I'll tell you another like 652 00:31:57,720 --> 00:32:02,120 Speaker 3: super fan. I think Lil Wayne and the Packers for 653 00:32:02,160 --> 00:32:05,120 Speaker 3: what he is, he's like it's so random, but he 654 00:32:05,120 --> 00:32:07,440 Speaker 3: talks about when the Packers made the Super Bowl, when 655 00:32:07,440 --> 00:32:09,800 Speaker 3: Brett Favre and Reggie White won it in Super Bowl 656 00:32:09,840 --> 00:32:11,680 Speaker 3: thirty one, they were in New Orleans, and he became 657 00:32:11,800 --> 00:32:14,760 Speaker 3: like a die hard Packers fan, right, Like, that's one 658 00:32:14,760 --> 00:32:17,520 Speaker 3: that stands out to me of like the newer generation 659 00:32:17,720 --> 00:32:20,960 Speaker 3: of sports celebrity fans. I got one more diehard. That's 660 00:32:21,000 --> 00:32:21,760 Speaker 3: kind of offbeat. 661 00:32:21,840 --> 00:32:25,360 Speaker 4: But he's had all the games, all the big basketball games, 662 00:32:25,400 --> 00:32:27,000 Speaker 4: and I know he's a super fan of basketball. I 663 00:32:27,000 --> 00:32:30,400 Speaker 4: don't know if there's a specific team, but James Goldstein, 664 00:32:31,160 --> 00:32:34,360 Speaker 4: the guy that dresses weird at everything big basketball game. 665 00:32:34,560 --> 00:32:37,040 Speaker 3: Yes, I know exactly. You know, he goes everywhere, exact 666 00:32:37,080 --> 00:32:39,760 Speaker 3: game that he can go to, gets front row seats 667 00:32:39,760 --> 00:32:40,360 Speaker 3: to everyone. 668 00:32:40,520 --> 00:32:42,560 Speaker 4: What's the story? Is he like a real estate guy. 669 00:32:42,640 --> 00:32:44,640 Speaker 4: He's a fashion I know he's a big fashion guy. 670 00:32:44,640 --> 00:32:48,920 Speaker 4: I don't know what all he's done. Yes, everybody knows him. 671 00:32:48,920 --> 00:32:53,720 Speaker 4: He has carte blanche. I've seen him. I've seen him 672 00:32:54,040 --> 00:32:56,480 Speaker 4: like I was fortunate enough to cover a couple of 673 00:32:56,640 --> 00:32:58,760 Speaker 4: NBA finals. In one of the NBA finals that I 674 00:32:58,840 --> 00:33:02,920 Speaker 4: covered was two thousand and seven with the Spurs and Calves. 675 00:33:03,360 --> 00:33:05,320 Speaker 4: So you have Lebron. You don't think that the Spurs 676 00:33:05,320 --> 00:33:07,680 Speaker 4: are a big deal, but you remember back then Eva 677 00:33:07,760 --> 00:33:13,480 Speaker 4: Longoria and Tony Parker were together. There's also there's I'm 678 00:33:13,520 --> 00:33:17,720 Speaker 4: totally blanking on the actor's name, but I just remember 679 00:33:17,760 --> 00:33:21,760 Speaker 4: and seeing how celebrities were treated around the NBA finals. 680 00:33:21,800 --> 00:33:27,240 Speaker 4: Some more got more respect than others. Jimmy Goldstein got 681 00:33:28,240 --> 00:33:30,880 Speaker 4: got that like the Eva Longoria treatment like wherever you 682 00:33:30,920 --> 00:33:33,520 Speaker 4: wanted to go, whoever you wanted to talk to, No 683 00:33:33,640 --> 00:33:37,000 Speaker 4: security guard was stopping you. But again to your point 684 00:33:37,040 --> 00:33:41,080 Speaker 4: of who is the guy with the funky clothes sitting courtside? 685 00:33:41,440 --> 00:33:43,120 Speaker 3: There's the myth about him. You do know him, but 686 00:33:43,160 --> 00:33:45,800 Speaker 3: then he's he is the celebrity. He is the celebrity. 687 00:33:45,880 --> 00:33:49,040 Speaker 1: Co sure, Yes, speaking of funky, do you remember there 688 00:33:49,080 --> 00:33:51,680 Speaker 1: was a I remember seeing Jack Nicholson, you know, the 689 00:33:51,760 --> 00:33:55,680 Speaker 1: Lakers legend. I'm pretty sure he was at courtside for 690 00:33:55,720 --> 00:33:59,240 Speaker 1: a Clippers playoff game about ten years ago, really, and 691 00:33:59,280 --> 00:34:02,200 Speaker 1: it was like a great betrayal. I remember that was 692 00:34:02,240 --> 00:34:05,880 Speaker 1: like lob City Alsodden Jack Nicholson's there. Also, does every 693 00:34:05,920 --> 00:34:09,640 Speaker 1: city have like a famous lawyer injury lawyer. 694 00:34:09,640 --> 00:34:12,600 Speaker 3: Superman dude? Yes, yes, I feel like there's a lot. 695 00:34:12,880 --> 00:34:16,040 Speaker 3: I know I can't name every single one, but I 696 00:34:16,080 --> 00:34:19,719 Speaker 3: know LA does, Detroit does, for sure, I know Milwaukee 697 00:34:19,760 --> 00:34:22,560 Speaker 3: does as well. Yes, people know them and yeah you 698 00:34:22,560 --> 00:34:26,879 Speaker 3: can see them. They probably purchased minority shares into the organization. 699 00:34:27,520 --> 00:34:30,880 Speaker 3: I'll I love the mix of celebrity and super fans. 700 00:34:31,800 --> 00:34:33,840 Speaker 3: I'm going to give you who I think is the 701 00:34:33,920 --> 00:34:36,279 Speaker 3: biggest super fan, and I don't think he's a fan 702 00:34:36,320 --> 00:34:42,919 Speaker 3: of the team anymore. Marlin's Man, Remember Marlin's Guy, marlins Man, 703 00:34:43,160 --> 00:34:46,120 Speaker 3: Do you remember Jason Stewart, You know who I'm talking about, 704 00:34:46,760 --> 00:34:48,520 Speaker 3: Marlin's Man, Marlin's Guy. 705 00:34:48,640 --> 00:34:50,640 Speaker 5: That I was going to bring him up as like 706 00:34:50,760 --> 00:34:58,040 Speaker 5: the poor man's what's his name, Weinstein Gold you guys, 707 00:34:58,040 --> 00:35:02,200 Speaker 5: oh man, poor Man's goals. Marlin's Man wishes he got 708 00:35:02,360 --> 00:35:06,279 Speaker 5: that love because he pays to get into all the 709 00:35:06,320 --> 00:35:10,880 Speaker 5: sporting events. But I remember when my twenty twenty year 710 00:35:10,880 --> 00:35:13,840 Speaker 5: old son at the time so Marlin's Man at a 711 00:35:13,920 --> 00:35:17,080 Speaker 5: Dodger game, ran, I've never seen my son get so 712 00:35:17,239 --> 00:35:21,359 Speaker 5: excited to take a selfieousybody. Marlin's Man resonates with gen 713 00:35:21,480 --> 00:35:23,000 Speaker 5: Z a lot. 714 00:35:23,160 --> 00:35:27,879 Speaker 3: He absolutely does, because he's everywhere, and that's the that's 715 00:35:27,960 --> 00:35:30,320 Speaker 3: part of the deal. The other thing with Marlin's Man 716 00:35:30,600 --> 00:35:34,279 Speaker 3: is he and the organization had a split, like when 717 00:35:34,320 --> 00:35:37,680 Speaker 3: Derek Jeter came in. Huh, there was a fracture in 718 00:35:37,719 --> 00:35:41,040 Speaker 3: the relationship. And Marlin's Man still wears his Marlin's gear 719 00:35:41,480 --> 00:35:43,719 Speaker 3: for a uniform set that they no longer wear. They 720 00:35:43,719 --> 00:35:46,600 Speaker 3: have an entirely different logo. They don't wear that Blaze 721 00:35:46,640 --> 00:35:49,879 Speaker 3: Orange one. But I have seen within the calendar year 722 00:35:50,080 --> 00:35:53,279 Speaker 3: Marlin's man at a sporting event. I have not seen 723 00:35:53,320 --> 00:35:55,680 Speaker 3: him as much lately, but I know that I've seen 724 00:35:55,719 --> 00:35:58,640 Speaker 3: him behind on plate for at least a game this year. Krise, 725 00:35:58,840 --> 00:36:04,600 Speaker 3: can we find Marlon Harland Man's real name? Yes, Lawrence Levy, Yes, 726 00:36:04,880 --> 00:36:09,080 Speaker 3: that's who he was. Kurt's and Erie, Pennsylvania. Kurt, Welcome 727 00:36:09,120 --> 00:36:10,880 Speaker 3: to Communo and Rich here on Fox Sports Radio. 728 00:36:11,680 --> 00:36:12,680 Speaker 9: Hey, what's going up, guys? 729 00:36:12,800 --> 00:36:13,239 Speaker 3: What's happened? 730 00:36:13,680 --> 00:36:14,960 Speaker 10: Man doing? 731 00:36:15,000 --> 00:36:15,439 Speaker 9: All right? 732 00:36:15,600 --> 00:36:17,359 Speaker 10: Did you guys mention Chiefs fan yet? 733 00:36:18,000 --> 00:36:18,160 Speaker 6: Oh? 734 00:36:18,200 --> 00:36:20,239 Speaker 3: The one that got arrested or the uh. 735 00:36:20,200 --> 00:36:22,280 Speaker 9: The the one that was Robin Banks? 736 00:36:23,680 --> 00:36:23,879 Speaker 4: Yeah? 737 00:36:24,040 --> 00:36:24,279 Speaker 9: Chief? 738 00:36:24,520 --> 00:36:25,560 Speaker 3: Is it Chief's Aholic? 739 00:36:25,880 --> 00:36:30,320 Speaker 10: Yeah? Yeah, that guy was awesome and he's in jail 740 00:36:30,400 --> 00:36:30,799 Speaker 10: right now. 741 00:36:31,120 --> 00:36:34,719 Speaker 3: But yes, is it the Netflix documentary? Kurt? Is that 742 00:36:34,760 --> 00:36:35,600 Speaker 3: where it is? Where? 743 00:36:36,040 --> 00:36:36,239 Speaker 9: Oh? 744 00:36:36,440 --> 00:36:39,720 Speaker 10: No, I just knew about it from paying attention to sports. 745 00:36:39,760 --> 00:36:40,040 Speaker 3: I didn't. 746 00:36:40,040 --> 00:36:42,600 Speaker 10: I mean, I'm gonna watch the documentary if there is one. 747 00:36:42,640 --> 00:36:46,320 Speaker 3: There is one, Yeah on Netflix. Oh, these these super 748 00:36:46,360 --> 00:36:49,080 Speaker 3: fans are amazing, Kurt, good, good nomination. I went to 749 00:36:49,080 --> 00:36:51,959 Speaker 3: the celebrity route and talking about the Kansas City Chiefs, 750 00:36:52,080 --> 00:36:54,240 Speaker 3: I saw Paul run at Super Bowl fifty nine walking 751 00:36:54,880 --> 00:36:57,239 Speaker 3: on the field uh with his son prior to the 752 00:36:57,239 --> 00:36:59,840 Speaker 3: Eagles and Chiefs game, And I just feel like like 753 00:37:00,000 --> 00:37:03,400 Speaker 3: throughout that week, whenever the Chiefs are there, you always 754 00:37:03,400 --> 00:37:06,600 Speaker 3: have either Eric stone Street or Paul Rudd as part 755 00:37:06,600 --> 00:37:09,640 Speaker 3: of the conversation. Wasn't Billy Crystill a big met fan? 756 00:37:10,080 --> 00:37:12,200 Speaker 3: He was a big Clip Noise Yankees fan because he 757 00:37:12,280 --> 00:37:15,440 Speaker 3: loved Making Man, but he loved the Clippers as well. 758 00:37:15,960 --> 00:37:18,880 Speaker 3: He and Penny Marshall were huge Clipper fans. And on 759 00:37:19,000 --> 00:37:25,240 Speaker 3: the super fan tip of Clippers Clipper Darryl of course, yah, 760 00:37:25,280 --> 00:37:27,960 Speaker 3: there would there would be one. I'll tell you one 761 00:37:28,000 --> 00:37:31,320 Speaker 3: in the college ranks you mentioned earlier, Matthew McConaughey and Texas. 762 00:37:32,840 --> 00:37:37,359 Speaker 3: Ohio State has two super fans, one that is liked 763 00:37:37,360 --> 00:37:41,399 Speaker 3: and one that nobody Billy likes, but you will if 764 00:37:41,440 --> 00:37:44,120 Speaker 3: you ever watch an Ohio State football game, you will 765 00:37:44,200 --> 00:37:50,920 Speaker 3: undoubtedly see Big nutt or Buckeye Guy. Big Nuts, the 766 00:37:50,920 --> 00:37:55,400 Speaker 3: guy that people like. Buckeye Guy showed up at Earl 767 00:37:55,560 --> 00:37:59,960 Speaker 3: Bruce's a memorial service in his full Ohio State gear 768 00:38:00,239 --> 00:38:02,319 Speaker 3: like this is just one of the things. He's the 769 00:38:02,320 --> 00:38:04,680 Speaker 3: guy that's always on TV he's dressed up. He's got 770 00:38:04,680 --> 00:38:08,040 Speaker 3: an Ohio State cape and a cowboy hat on big nuts. 771 00:38:08,040 --> 00:38:10,400 Speaker 3: The one who paints his face. I think he's lost 772 00:38:10,400 --> 00:38:13,800 Speaker 3: a little weight. But every single Saturday that they play, 773 00:38:14,280 --> 00:38:17,560 Speaker 3: it's who the camera goes to, and they are always 774 00:38:17,640 --> 00:38:21,640 Speaker 3: on TV. But sometimes your super fan, your sports superfan, 775 00:38:22,120 --> 00:38:24,920 Speaker 3: is not liked by your regular fan base. And that 776 00:38:25,080 --> 00:38:27,840 Speaker 3: happened to be the case, uh with with one of 777 00:38:27,880 --> 00:38:29,200 Speaker 3: the Ohio State superfans. 778 00:38:29,400 --> 00:38:31,759 Speaker 4: What was the guy, the OKC superfan, the one that 779 00:38:31,920 --> 00:38:33,320 Speaker 4: was really tan with the white teeth. 780 00:38:33,320 --> 00:38:38,680 Speaker 3: I can't do it was Portland that yeah, yes, yeah again, 781 00:38:38,920 --> 00:38:43,319 Speaker 3: Yeah he was great. And Charles Barkley back and forth. Yes, 782 00:38:43,400 --> 00:38:46,239 Speaker 3: I remember that as well. Matt and Augusta Georgia. We're 783 00:38:46,280 --> 00:38:49,160 Speaker 3: talking super fans and slub fans here on Cavino and 784 00:38:49,239 --> 00:38:51,280 Speaker 3: Rich here on Fox Sports Radio. Matt, what's going on. 785 00:38:51,760 --> 00:38:53,480 Speaker 10: Hey, Georgia. 786 00:38:53,560 --> 00:38:54,479 Speaker 9: But I real quick. 787 00:38:54,520 --> 00:38:58,120 Speaker 10: There was a guy for fift years at the University 788 00:38:58,160 --> 00:39:02,120 Speaker 10: of Florida. They called himself mister two Bits, and he 789 00:39:02,160 --> 00:39:04,839 Speaker 10: would run from one spot of the stadium to the other. 790 00:39:05,000 --> 00:39:08,800 Speaker 10: He was a ticket by in person and leave the 791 00:39:08,840 --> 00:39:11,760 Speaker 10: two Bits year in the entire stadium eighty ninety thousand 792 00:39:11,840 --> 00:39:14,520 Speaker 10: people would chime in and he was like beloved. He 793 00:39:14,600 --> 00:39:17,880 Speaker 10: went swooler in the fifties and didn't stop and diet 794 00:39:18,960 --> 00:39:23,600 Speaker 10: I mean the twenty ten or something. He may have 795 00:39:23,680 --> 00:39:25,640 Speaker 10: to know the Florida Gators to know it, but he 796 00:39:25,800 --> 00:39:26,919 Speaker 10: was like super fan. 797 00:39:27,239 --> 00:39:30,040 Speaker 3: Oh he was, He absolutely was. He didn't And and 798 00:39:30,080 --> 00:39:32,960 Speaker 3: to Matt's point, who was in Valdosta not Augusta as 799 00:39:33,000 --> 00:39:37,000 Speaker 3: he said the he was known in the stadium. It's 800 00:39:37,040 --> 00:39:40,080 Speaker 3: not like CBS put him on TV right but before 801 00:39:40,120 --> 00:39:42,840 Speaker 3: every game because I had covered a few Florida games 802 00:39:42,880 --> 00:39:45,400 Speaker 3: back in the day and it was yeah, two bits, 803 00:39:45,520 --> 00:39:48,800 Speaker 3: four bits, six bits a dollar like that sort of chance. 804 00:39:48,880 --> 00:39:51,080 Speaker 3: He would do that before the game. So I know 805 00:39:51,160 --> 00:39:54,360 Speaker 3: exactly what Matt is talking about. There's but again like 806 00:39:54,440 --> 00:39:58,000 Speaker 3: he wouldn't he wouldn't have been on TV some of 807 00:39:58,040 --> 00:40:00,560 Speaker 3: these some of these guys Clipper Daryl get you know 808 00:40:00,640 --> 00:40:02,919 Speaker 3: shots from Prime Ticket or you know the Logan TV. 809 00:40:03,040 --> 00:40:07,160 Speaker 3: And we know Marlin's Man and others, Fireman ed, Fireman 810 00:40:07,320 --> 00:40:11,879 Speaker 3: absolutely Fireman that is guests on shows right like we're 811 00:40:11,880 --> 00:40:15,400 Speaker 3: talking Jets today, Fireman d comes and you know, joins 812 00:40:15,400 --> 00:40:18,120 Speaker 3: the program and you know, like when does it become 813 00:40:18,200 --> 00:40:20,600 Speaker 3: too much as a superfan. Dan is there when you're 814 00:40:20,680 --> 00:40:25,319 Speaker 3: going on show exactly. That is the line, and that's it. 815 00:40:26,480 --> 00:40:29,600 Speaker 3: James is in Virginia winging in on the celeb super 816 00:40:29,640 --> 00:40:31,920 Speaker 3: fan conversation. James, what's happening? 817 00:40:32,000 --> 00:40:34,560 Speaker 9: Oh, thank you for taking my call. Gentlemen. 818 00:40:34,640 --> 00:40:38,440 Speaker 4: Happy Wednesday, Man, Happy Wednesday. 819 00:40:38,160 --> 00:40:40,680 Speaker 9: Big time all the time, every time, man, And I'd 820 00:40:40,719 --> 00:40:43,200 Speaker 9: be remiss if I didn't call in and shout out 821 00:40:43,239 --> 00:40:46,080 Speaker 9: my man. May he rests in teeth cheap z man 822 00:40:46,160 --> 00:40:48,440 Speaker 9: for salute the Commanders Man. But back then it was 823 00:40:48,520 --> 00:40:51,120 Speaker 9: hell to the Redskins, and my man always came in 824 00:40:51,120 --> 00:40:55,200 Speaker 9: with his big headdress. Super fan all the way. Line. Man, Hey, 825 00:40:55,239 --> 00:40:57,520 Speaker 9: I appreciate you guys getting me also quick, y'all have 826 00:40:57,560 --> 00:40:58,279 Speaker 9: a wonderful day. 827 00:40:58,360 --> 00:40:58,520 Speaker 4: Man. 828 00:40:58,760 --> 00:40:59,719 Speaker 9: Salute the Commanders. 829 00:41:00,239 --> 00:41:02,960 Speaker 3: Brother. Yeah, I remember, I remember, and I remember videos 830 00:41:03,000 --> 00:41:07,160 Speaker 3: of him fighting with Cowboy fans physically fighting, and they 831 00:41:07,200 --> 00:41:10,000 Speaker 3: actually made NFL film's clips when they're talking about the 832 00:41:10,040 --> 00:41:13,319 Speaker 3: Cowboys Washington rivalry at the time, you would see him, Yes, 833 00:41:13,520 --> 00:41:15,359 Speaker 3: there there were. Now I'm not saying that he fought 834 00:41:15,360 --> 00:41:17,799 Speaker 3: every game. I'm just saying with the Cowboys rivalry that 835 00:41:17,920 --> 00:41:19,640 Speaker 3: was always a built up one oh Man. 836 00:41:19,719 --> 00:41:21,719 Speaker 5: Yeah, we just had a phone call by the way 837 00:41:21,760 --> 00:41:23,600 Speaker 5: that he didn't want to come on the air, but 838 00:41:23,640 --> 00:41:27,279 Speaker 5: he had a good one. Was there one person or 839 00:41:27,360 --> 00:41:29,160 Speaker 5: was it a collection of people that would show up 840 00:41:29,160 --> 00:41:32,560 Speaker 5: with the three sixteen sign? One guy, one guy with 841 00:41:32,600 --> 00:41:37,040 Speaker 5: the three sixteen sign, the Austin No, the John three sixteen, 842 00:41:37,120 --> 00:41:40,040 Speaker 5: the first to start it. That's how Austin got it. Yeah, 843 00:41:40,400 --> 00:41:43,000 Speaker 5: but well I shouldn't say that's how Awesome got it. 844 00:41:43,080 --> 00:41:46,359 Speaker 5: But the guy who was behind the goalpost and at 845 00:41:46,400 --> 00:41:48,880 Speaker 5: the John three sixteen, I think there was a documentary 846 00:41:48,880 --> 00:41:53,120 Speaker 5: made about him as well, Like I relieve, Yes, I 847 00:41:53,160 --> 00:41:56,480 Speaker 5: don't know the exact details of it, but yes, I 848 00:41:56,520 --> 00:41:59,600 Speaker 5: think that was that was one guy that it became 849 00:41:59,680 --> 00:42:03,120 Speaker 5: pop and maybe was done by other people, but I 850 00:42:03,160 --> 00:42:05,720 Speaker 5: know solely at first it was done by by one person. 851 00:42:05,800 --> 00:42:08,880 Speaker 4: Dan, I'm questioning your fan with Seattle. Now, until I 852 00:42:08,960 --> 00:42:11,440 Speaker 4: see you painted up or wearing a sign or a 853 00:42:11,480 --> 00:42:13,160 Speaker 4: T shirt, you're not a super fan. 854 00:42:13,520 --> 00:42:15,720 Speaker 3: That's well, you know, the Seahawks have had a couple 855 00:42:15,719 --> 00:42:19,959 Speaker 3: of like recent super fans where you know it's guys, 856 00:42:20,200 --> 00:42:23,680 Speaker 3: guys from Seattle, like Joel McHale, Chris Pratt. Yeah, one 857 00:42:23,760 --> 00:42:28,000 Speaker 3: Wayne Wilson was another Mina Kimes is probably the biggest 858 00:42:28,040 --> 00:42:29,960 Speaker 3: like super fan, but I mean she's a member of 859 00:42:29,960 --> 00:42:32,440 Speaker 3: the media. I don't know you can put it that way. 860 00:42:32,520 --> 00:42:34,640 Speaker 3: But I'll tell you what, watching the Seahawks in the 861 00:42:34,680 --> 00:42:36,600 Speaker 3: eighties and nineties, there weren't a lot of celebrities that 862 00:42:36,640 --> 00:42:39,680 Speaker 3: were claiming the Seahawks at that time, right And nowadays 863 00:42:39,719 --> 00:42:43,240 Speaker 3: different story, but so more of the new school celebs 864 00:42:43,280 --> 00:42:45,040 Speaker 3: that have that have come around for the Seahawks and 865 00:42:45,080 --> 00:42:47,719 Speaker 3: maybe maybe they'll be coming out for the Mariners as well, 866 00:42:48,320 --> 00:42:52,040 Speaker 3: you know, as they continue their push good conversation here, 867 00:42:52,360 --> 00:42:56,360 Speaker 3: what's more annoying to you celeb fans like as a player? Well, actually, no, 868 00:42:56,480 --> 00:42:58,360 Speaker 3: I know that answer. You would love to mingle with 869 00:42:58,360 --> 00:43:01,360 Speaker 3: the celebrities. It's the super fans where you're like, Okay, 870 00:43:01,440 --> 00:43:03,040 Speaker 3: you may want to chill on the face paint. Is 871 00:43:03,040 --> 00:43:03,439 Speaker 3: that right? 872 00:43:03,640 --> 00:43:05,800 Speaker 4: Exactly? You're a grown man. You got a nine to 873 00:43:05,880 --> 00:43:07,800 Speaker 4: five that you got to go to relax a little. 874 00:43:07,600 --> 00:43:10,120 Speaker 3: Bit, just a little bit. Yes, he's carry roads. I'm 875 00:43:10,200 --> 00:43:12,960 Speaker 3: Dan byer in for Covino and Rich here on Fox 876 00:43:13,000 --> 00:43:13,720 Speaker 3: Sports Radio. 877 00:43:13,760 --> 00:43:16,319 Speaker 7: Fox Sports Radio has the best sports talk lineup in 878 00:43:16,360 --> 00:43:19,440 Speaker 7: the nation. Catch all of our shows at Foxsports Radio 879 00:43:19,520 --> 00:43:22,080 Speaker 7: dot com and within the iHeartRadio app. 880 00:43:23,880 --> 00:43:26,200 Speaker 3: Chris Quick Question, before you Yeah, put you step away. 881 00:43:26,239 --> 00:43:30,480 Speaker 3: Barry Sanders retires in nineteen ninety eight, a shock to 882 00:43:30,520 --> 00:43:34,520 Speaker 3: the Lions fans. As part of that retirement, we go 883 00:43:34,600 --> 00:43:38,080 Speaker 3: back a long long ways. Do Lions fans miss Barry 884 00:43:38,080 --> 00:43:41,560 Speaker 3: Sanders not continuing his career? Are they resentment? Is there 885 00:43:41,560 --> 00:43:43,879 Speaker 3: any resentment at all that he didn't become the all 886 00:43:43,920 --> 00:43:46,640 Speaker 3: time leading rusher? If we can just take a look 887 00:43:46,640 --> 00:43:50,080 Speaker 3: at the Lions fans minds when it comes to Barry Sanders' retirements, 888 00:43:50,600 --> 00:43:52,279 Speaker 3: where do they sit? Even though it happened twenty five 889 00:43:52,360 --> 00:43:52,960 Speaker 3: years ago. 890 00:43:52,880 --> 00:43:55,239 Speaker 1: So it is a long time ago. I don't think 891 00:43:55,239 --> 00:43:57,880 Speaker 1: there's a lot of resentment, partly because I think what 892 00:43:58,040 --> 00:44:01,480 Speaker 1: happens after a career, once some time has passed, is 893 00:44:01,520 --> 00:44:03,760 Speaker 1: whether or not you decide to stand in good graces 894 00:44:03,800 --> 00:44:06,400 Speaker 1: with the team. And for Barry Sanders, he's always on 895 00:44:06,440 --> 00:44:08,640 Speaker 1: the sideline with the Lions. He's become something of an 896 00:44:08,680 --> 00:44:13,440 Speaker 1: ambassador for the team. He's always representing them, doing interviews 897 00:44:13,920 --> 00:44:17,520 Speaker 1: and appearing before major games. The Lions, especially with when 898 00:44:17,560 --> 00:44:22,080 Speaker 1: the ownership flipped over to Sheila hamp has really taken 899 00:44:22,160 --> 00:44:24,839 Speaker 1: a hard policy of making sure all the legends come back. 900 00:44:25,080 --> 00:44:27,040 Speaker 1: I think there was some resentment, a lot of resentment 901 00:44:27,080 --> 00:44:29,839 Speaker 1: with like Megatron, with Calvin Johnson when he left, because 902 00:44:29,840 --> 00:44:32,920 Speaker 1: there was the whole you know, million dollars on the table. 903 00:44:33,040 --> 00:44:36,359 Speaker 1: Still that was a big sticking point. But you know, 904 00:44:36,640 --> 00:44:38,360 Speaker 1: I think there was a lot of reconciliation. But the 905 00:44:38,360 --> 00:44:41,520 Speaker 1: first one to really have that, you know, embrace the 906 00:44:41,560 --> 00:44:44,320 Speaker 1: Lions coming back was Barry Sanders. So if there's anyone 907 00:44:44,400 --> 00:44:47,960 Speaker 1: still complaining about Barry Sanders among Lions fans, they're like 908 00:44:48,200 --> 00:44:51,160 Speaker 1: the oldest of old heads. I think most people see 909 00:44:51,239 --> 00:44:53,200 Speaker 1: him as the Lions legend unequivocally. 910 00:44:53,239 --> 00:44:55,240 Speaker 3: The reason I bring it up is because Barry Sanders 911 00:44:55,320 --> 00:44:56,799 Speaker 3: was on his way to being the all time leading 912 00:44:56,840 --> 00:44:58,880 Speaker 3: rusher in the NFL and was going to set that 913 00:44:58,920 --> 00:45:01,920 Speaker 3: record if you would have played a couple of more seasons. 914 00:45:02,000 --> 00:45:05,200 Speaker 3: Emmett Smith ultimately left the game in two thousand and 915 00:45:05,200 --> 00:45:08,600 Speaker 3: four with over eighteen three hundred yards, But when Barry 916 00:45:08,640 --> 00:45:12,080 Speaker 3: Sanders left in nineteen ninety eight, he had fifteen two 917 00:45:12,160 --> 00:45:14,959 Speaker 3: hundred and sixty nine yards and was fifteen hundred yards 918 00:45:15,000 --> 00:45:17,440 Speaker 3: shy of Walter Payton's record, So it would have been 919 00:45:17,440 --> 00:45:19,319 Speaker 3: Barry Sanders, and Barry Sanders may still be the leading 920 00:45:19,400 --> 00:45:24,319 Speaker 3: rushing leading running back or for rushing yards today if 921 00:45:24,320 --> 00:45:27,360 Speaker 3: he would have continued to play in his career. That's 922 00:45:27,800 --> 00:45:29,680 Speaker 3: why I started and why I asked the question to 923 00:45:29,760 --> 00:45:32,400 Speaker 3: Chris is that would also be a Lions record, right 924 00:45:32,480 --> 00:45:35,000 Speaker 3: like that would be a record embraced by the city. 925 00:45:35,400 --> 00:45:38,000 Speaker 3: Cal Raley is on the verge of breaking a lot 926 00:45:38,000 --> 00:45:42,920 Speaker 3: of records for the Seattle Mariners right now, he is. 927 00:45:43,440 --> 00:45:46,640 Speaker 3: He's just shy of the pace to break Aaron Judge's 928 00:45:46,760 --> 00:45:50,840 Speaker 3: record of sixty two American League home runs right now, 929 00:45:51,200 --> 00:45:54,480 Speaker 3: He's on pace for sixty one. So they're saying the 930 00:45:54,600 --> 00:45:57,000 Speaker 3: likelihood of breaking in of sixty three or more is 931 00:45:57,040 --> 00:45:59,640 Speaker 3: thirty eight point five percent. That's according to bet online 932 00:45:59,680 --> 00:46:02,319 Speaker 3: right now now, will he break the record? Yes, is 933 00:46:02,320 --> 00:46:05,480 Speaker 3: plus one twenty. No is minus one sixty that's for 934 00:46:05,600 --> 00:46:09,239 Speaker 3: Judges sixty two. However, this was the one that I 935 00:46:09,239 --> 00:46:12,720 Speaker 3: thought was interesting. Will cal Raley break King Griffy Junior's 936 00:46:12,840 --> 00:46:16,880 Speaker 3: Mariner's single season home run record of fifty six seventy 937 00:46:16,920 --> 00:46:19,200 Speaker 3: one percent? Chance study will is he has forty five 938 00:46:19,239 --> 00:46:23,000 Speaker 3: home runs right now with forty two games left minus 939 00:46:23,000 --> 00:46:27,040 Speaker 3: two fifty, Yes, no, plus one seventy. Cal Raley is 940 00:46:27,080 --> 00:46:31,319 Speaker 3: having a magnificent season. If you're a Mariners fan, do 941 00:46:31,360 --> 00:46:33,319 Speaker 3: you want cal Raley to have that record or King 942 00:46:33,320 --> 00:46:38,080 Speaker 3: Griffy Junior to have that record? As a Mariner fan, 943 00:46:40,000 --> 00:46:40,920 Speaker 3: that's a that's a hard one. 944 00:46:41,000 --> 00:46:46,480 Speaker 4: Dan. I think that the sweetest swinging lefty ever, and 945 00:46:46,760 --> 00:46:51,759 Speaker 4: just the name recognition, the father dynamic as well, just 946 00:46:51,800 --> 00:46:53,680 Speaker 4: the lure that the Griffies have. 947 00:46:55,239 --> 00:46:57,720 Speaker 3: That'd be a tough one to break. Yes, I agree 948 00:46:57,760 --> 00:47:00,000 Speaker 3: to break. And it's why I brought it up because 949 00:47:00,120 --> 00:47:02,560 Speaker 3: it's not meant to disrespect cal Rally in any way. 950 00:47:03,200 --> 00:47:05,520 Speaker 3: But there is something about Ken Griffey Jr. Who was 951 00:47:05,640 --> 00:47:08,359 Speaker 3: every kid's favorite player. I feel like of my age 952 00:47:08,360 --> 00:47:11,920 Speaker 3: and growing up because he's just he had everything and 953 00:47:12,360 --> 00:47:15,359 Speaker 3: he is, you know, so much of that organization. Even 954 00:47:15,400 --> 00:47:17,320 Speaker 3: though he left for a couple of years to play 955 00:47:17,320 --> 00:47:20,560 Speaker 3: for the Reds, it's still they have Ken Grifree Junior 956 00:47:20,680 --> 00:47:24,600 Speaker 3: have your single season home run mark. I think is 957 00:47:24,719 --> 00:47:28,399 Speaker 3: pretty special. And it's not that the Mariners again would 958 00:47:28,480 --> 00:47:30,919 Speaker 3: cheer against cal ralely right, but I think that there 959 00:47:30,960 --> 00:47:35,000 Speaker 3: are records sometimes that you just don't want to have broken. 960 00:47:35,480 --> 00:47:38,000 Speaker 3: Roger marris Is broke a record of sixty one when 961 00:47:38,040 --> 00:47:40,759 Speaker 3: McGuire and Sosa and everybody were chasing it. And while 962 00:47:40,760 --> 00:47:43,600 Speaker 3: there were steroid thoughts maybe at that time that something 963 00:47:43,680 --> 00:47:45,719 Speaker 3: was going on, there was still a group of people 964 00:47:45,760 --> 00:47:49,280 Speaker 3: that didn't want sixty one broken and that they wanted 965 00:47:49,320 --> 00:47:53,279 Speaker 3: that number to stay. And it's since been broken by 966 00:47:53,360 --> 00:47:56,120 Speaker 3: McGuire and Sosa and then obviously Bonds after that, you know, 967 00:47:56,239 --> 00:47:59,319 Speaker 3: ended up seventy three, and why Judges now sixty two 968 00:47:59,440 --> 00:48:02,600 Speaker 3: is looked at is such a unique number because he 969 00:48:02,640 --> 00:48:04,960 Speaker 3: didn't pass Bonds a single season, but you can say 970 00:48:04,960 --> 00:48:07,400 Speaker 3: that it's an American League record. I just think the 971 00:48:07,480 --> 00:48:10,400 Speaker 3: thought process of breaking records and who you want to 972 00:48:10,440 --> 00:48:14,680 Speaker 3: have those records is trickier than you would think on 973 00:48:14,719 --> 00:48:17,160 Speaker 3: the surface. And I would just think, as a Mariners fan, 974 00:48:17,680 --> 00:48:20,960 Speaker 3: to have Ken Griffy Junior hold that single season record, 975 00:48:21,480 --> 00:48:24,720 Speaker 3: I think that they would they would want Ken Griffy 976 00:48:24,800 --> 00:48:27,319 Speaker 3: Junior to still have that. I could be completely off base. 977 00:48:27,360 --> 00:48:29,000 Speaker 3: I'm not a Mariners fan, but I think it's a 978 00:48:29,000 --> 00:48:31,120 Speaker 3: record that you would say, maybe I don't want that 979 00:48:31,120 --> 00:48:31,719 Speaker 3: one to be broken. 980 00:48:31,800 --> 00:48:33,719 Speaker 4: Yeah, get close to a col don't break it, just 981 00:48:33,719 --> 00:48:36,160 Speaker 4: get really close, like have have the end of the 982 00:48:36,160 --> 00:48:39,319 Speaker 4: season be a little countdown that you know he might 983 00:48:39,640 --> 00:48:41,960 Speaker 4: possibly do it, or he's on the brink of doing it. 984 00:48:42,000 --> 00:48:46,840 Speaker 4: But yeah, being the flag bearer for the Mariners, having 985 00:48:46,880 --> 00:48:49,080 Speaker 4: that guy be Ken Griffy Junior, it's a big deal. 986 00:48:49,360 --> 00:48:52,400 Speaker 3: Win a World Series could make up for it. Jason Stewart, 987 00:48:52,400 --> 00:48:53,360 Speaker 3: our executive producer. 988 00:48:53,560 --> 00:48:56,439 Speaker 5: I think Roger Morris is like the perfect example here 989 00:48:57,160 --> 00:48:59,920 Speaker 5: because the people that at the time complained that Roger 990 00:49:01,040 --> 00:49:03,680 Speaker 5: was just kind of this like Johnny cum Lately who 991 00:49:03,880 --> 00:49:07,640 Speaker 5: hadn't had a great Yankee career. They played I think 992 00:49:07,680 --> 00:49:09,680 Speaker 5: they I want to say, they expanded to one hundred 993 00:49:09,680 --> 00:49:13,160 Speaker 5: and sixty two games, So the whole asterisk took place 994 00:49:13,320 --> 00:49:16,400 Speaker 5: and it held up. By the way, the criticism of 995 00:49:16,480 --> 00:49:21,439 Speaker 5: Roger Merris building up to that sixty one season has 996 00:49:21,480 --> 00:49:24,080 Speaker 5: held up. He didn't he did not have a great 997 00:49:24,120 --> 00:49:26,920 Speaker 5: career afterwards. That was kind of like his one off, 998 00:49:27,000 --> 00:49:31,560 Speaker 5: And I think that's the criticism of cal Rawley's uh season. 999 00:49:32,160 --> 00:49:34,000 Speaker 5: We don't know yet if he's going to have other 1000 00:49:34,320 --> 00:49:37,560 Speaker 5: years like this. This could be his one season. We 1001 00:49:37,640 --> 00:49:39,719 Speaker 5: knew Ken Griffy was amazing, He was a Hall of 1002 00:49:39,719 --> 00:49:42,120 Speaker 5: Famer he's the natural. So I think that's what you're 1003 00:49:42,120 --> 00:49:45,160 Speaker 5: speaking to, like, we want, we want our heroes to 1004 00:49:45,239 --> 00:49:47,319 Speaker 5: have these records, not just kind of like Johnny cum 1005 00:49:47,400 --> 00:49:48,719 Speaker 5: Lately who had one great year. 1006 00:49:48,840 --> 00:49:51,120 Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, I think that's a that's a big part 1007 00:49:51,160 --> 00:49:53,200 Speaker 3: of it, and it's also just of who Ken Griffy 1008 00:49:53,239 --> 00:49:58,239 Speaker 3: Junior is and what he meant to that franchise, into 1009 00:49:58,280 --> 00:50:01,520 Speaker 3: that team and to to all us. I actually think 1010 00:50:01,560 --> 00:50:05,000 Speaker 3: the worst case scenario would be Raleigh to break fifty 1011 00:50:05,080 --> 00:50:09,160 Speaker 3: six but not get to Judges sixty two, so to 1012 00:50:09,239 --> 00:50:11,440 Speaker 3: be in that sweet spot, which, by the way, seems 1013 00:50:11,480 --> 00:50:13,560 Speaker 3: like where he's gonna land in his home run total 1014 00:50:13,560 --> 00:50:16,320 Speaker 3: if he goes on a tear. Now there's others. Mickey Mantle, 1015 00:50:16,360 --> 00:50:19,080 Speaker 3: as a switch hitter, hit the most home runs in 1016 00:50:19,120 --> 00:50:22,000 Speaker 3: a single season that was fifty four. There's an eighty 1017 00:50:22,080 --> 00:50:24,520 Speaker 3: seven and a half percent likelihood, according to bent Online, 1018 00:50:24,560 --> 00:50:27,360 Speaker 3: that he breaks that number. As for Bonds's mark of 1019 00:50:27,400 --> 00:50:29,759 Speaker 3: seventy three right now, it's plus two thousand and a 1020 00:50:29,800 --> 00:50:32,640 Speaker 3: long shot twenty to one. Current odds are less than 1021 00:50:32,640 --> 00:50:35,439 Speaker 3: five percent that Raley would be able to hit seventy three, 1022 00:50:35,520 --> 00:50:37,640 Speaker 3: hit forty five with forty two to go. That seems 1023 00:50:37,719 --> 00:50:40,480 Speaker 3: very unlikely. But if you were to fall short of Judge, 1024 00:50:40,520 --> 00:50:42,279 Speaker 3: like if you were to break Judges record and I 1025 00:50:42,280 --> 00:50:45,680 Speaker 3: have sixty three, then I think now we've really developed 1026 00:50:45,680 --> 00:50:48,960 Speaker 3: a new star in Major League Baseball because now your 1027 00:50:49,080 --> 00:50:51,920 Speaker 3: name is attached to that record. But if he was 1028 00:50:51,960 --> 00:50:56,200 Speaker 3: in between, if he would broke Griffy's record but didn't 1029 00:50:56,200 --> 00:50:59,440 Speaker 3: get to Judges, to Jason's point of us not knowing 1030 00:51:00,400 --> 00:51:02,520 Speaker 3: what cal Rawley's career is going to be or the 1031 00:51:02,520 --> 00:51:04,959 Speaker 3: rest of it's going to be, I think there would 1032 00:51:04,960 --> 00:51:07,000 Speaker 3: be some unhappy people. It's not that I don't want 1033 00:51:07,040 --> 00:51:10,000 Speaker 3: records broken, but it's just the fact of certain records. 1034 00:51:10,040 --> 00:51:12,440 Speaker 3: It's why I just thought with with Barry Sanders, if 1035 00:51:12,440 --> 00:51:14,920 Speaker 3: Barry Sanders breaks the rushing record, it's not just Barry 1036 00:51:14,920 --> 00:51:18,239 Speaker 3: Sanders record, it's the entire city of Detroit's record, it's 1037 00:51:18,280 --> 00:51:21,160 Speaker 3: the Lions record, it's probably the State of Michigan's record. 1038 00:51:21,320 --> 00:51:24,160 Speaker 3: So like those things come with those sort of marks, 1039 00:51:24,160 --> 00:51:26,680 Speaker 3: And that's why I think where cal Raley is right now, 1040 00:51:26,719 --> 00:51:28,640 Speaker 3: he's in an interesting spot because there could be some 1041 00:51:28,719 --> 00:51:31,719 Speaker 3: history on its side, but he also could have the 1042 00:51:31,760 --> 00:51:36,480 Speaker 3: best player in franchise history. Maybe move aside Jason. 1043 00:51:36,160 --> 00:51:39,040 Speaker 5: I was thinking about this, so I grew up with 1044 00:51:39,120 --> 00:51:41,120 Speaker 5: an on the I mean I have a bunch of 1045 00:51:41,120 --> 00:51:43,920 Speaker 5: family on the East Coast or just big Johnny unitas 1046 00:51:44,040 --> 00:51:46,560 Speaker 5: people yep, like you don't know, Johnny United Us. To 1047 00:51:46,560 --> 00:51:48,759 Speaker 5: a lot of people of a certain age, is like 1048 00:51:48,800 --> 00:51:51,440 Speaker 5: their hero. And then you're thinking, who holds the cold 1049 00:51:51,560 --> 00:51:55,160 Speaker 5: single season record for passing? Peyton probably holds it, and 1050 00:51:55,239 --> 00:51:59,000 Speaker 5: that's fine, Peyton holding it, but Andrew luck is the 1051 00:51:59,120 --> 00:52:01,000 Speaker 5: single season? Is that good? 1052 00:52:01,400 --> 00:52:01,919 Speaker 3: Is that Okay? 1053 00:52:02,000 --> 00:52:05,040 Speaker 5: If you're a diehard Colts fan from Wyduck. 1054 00:52:05,239 --> 00:52:08,600 Speaker 3: Hey what you got? Damn? I No, I would say no, 1055 00:52:08,800 --> 00:52:11,120 Speaker 3: like you don't want like then you just then you 1056 00:52:11,360 --> 00:52:14,239 Speaker 3: just say you chalk it up to well, that's just 1057 00:52:14,280 --> 00:52:18,960 Speaker 3: today's that's just today's NFL. But there's something historic about it. 1058 00:52:19,040 --> 00:52:21,960 Speaker 3: Even though we all remember Ken Garofid junior playing, it's 1059 00:52:22,000 --> 00:52:24,319 Speaker 3: been a while, it's spent a little while, so there's 1060 00:52:24,360 --> 00:52:27,839 Speaker 3: some there's some history, there's some nostalgia with it. And 1061 00:52:28,320 --> 00:52:30,800 Speaker 3: to that, like, even if Peyton Manning had the record, 1062 00:52:30,840 --> 00:52:32,800 Speaker 3: you could say, yeah, and it's not as much about 1063 00:52:33,200 --> 00:52:36,920 Speaker 3: lux decision, but yet it is you didn't want to 1064 00:52:36,960 --> 00:52:39,239 Speaker 3: play anymore, right, and was at that level and maybe 1065 00:52:39,280 --> 00:52:40,920 Speaker 3: could have been a great So you feel a little 1066 00:52:40,920 --> 00:52:43,920 Speaker 3: empty with that feeling. Yeah, I think there's absolutely something 1067 00:52:43,960 --> 00:52:45,280 Speaker 3: to that. That's funny, Johnny. 1068 00:52:45,320 --> 00:52:49,239 Speaker 4: You Johnny, you went to the University of where that's right, 1069 00:52:49,360 --> 00:52:49,920 Speaker 4: that's right. 1070 00:52:49,800 --> 00:52:51,400 Speaker 3: Statue in the end zone or do they move it. 1071 00:52:51,440 --> 00:52:54,440 Speaker 3: I know they've renovated it, like you know, twenty times. 1072 00:52:54,280 --> 00:52:57,320 Speaker 4: It's still there. Lamar's is inside, but here's a steal 1073 00:52:57,760 --> 00:52:58,960 Speaker 4: at the foot at the foot. 1074 00:52:58,840 --> 00:53:01,440 Speaker 3: Right, he's Carrier Roads. I'm Empire in four Cavino and 1075 00:53:01,560 --> 00:53:03,160 Speaker 3: Rich here on Fox Sports Radio.