WEBVTT - Nazis Don't Go To Valhalla: Spooky Week #5

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<v Speaker 1>It's it's spook all right, I didn't so if I'm

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<v Speaker 1>done for the day, taking taking the rest off by ament,

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<v Speaker 1>we sure do. Uh. So, you know, normally this is

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<v Speaker 1>a show about collapse, all that good stuff, YadA, YadA, YadA,

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<v Speaker 1>But fucking it's Halloween week. So we're we're we're we're

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<v Speaker 1>we're making sure all of our stuff has a little

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<v Speaker 1>bit of an extra spooky twist. It's like when you

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<v Speaker 1>you make a martini and you decide to actually put

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<v Speaker 1>vermuth inside it, as opposed to just kind of waving

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<v Speaker 1>it nearby. That's what we're doing this week, with spookiness

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<v Speaker 1>being the vermouth and mixing up our martini. Today is

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<v Speaker 1>Margaret Killjoy, Margaret Hello, Hello, I'm a famous mixologist, so

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<v Speaker 1>clearly this would be very good. Now Margaret today for

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<v Speaker 1>this very special episode of it could happen here on

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<v Speaker 1>Spooky Week. You have written us, well, you've written a

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<v Speaker 1>short story and you're going to read it and and

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<v Speaker 1>and we're all gonna enjoy it. Is that is that accurate? Um?

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<v Speaker 1>I hope at least I can I can testify to

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<v Speaker 1>the first parts, and I hope for the last part. Excellent.

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<v Speaker 1>All right, Well, with without further ado, or with minimal

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<v Speaker 1>further ado. Let's uh, let's let's let's just you know,

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<v Speaker 1>with the with the stuff, with the stuff, Margaret, with

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<v Speaker 1>this stuff. Well this is great because this is actually

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<v Speaker 1>a short story that you start reading of. Oh ship, Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>where's that link? You tested it to me, but I

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<v Speaker 1>don't have my phone on me. Okay, let me put

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<v Speaker 1>it in the chat here um based impressive, to say

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<v Speaker 1>the least, based in fiction pilled. Okay, I start reading

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<v Speaker 1>the italics. Yeah, it's the first A couple of paragraphs

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<v Speaker 1>of introduction, and your your interview. Me, all right, motherfucker's

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<v Speaker 1>let's get it started. The Northern Host, for all its lingering,

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<v Speaker 1>horror and misery, the wake of a war is rich

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<v Speaker 1>to reign for a folklorist like myself. More people report

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<v Speaker 1>more supernatural experiences during times of war than times of peace.

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<v Speaker 1>Some of my peers have argued the stress and shock

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<v Speaker 1>of battle leaves our brains more susceptible to mass delusion.

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<v Speaker 1>Others claim that the veil between worlds remains thin when

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<v Speaker 1>so many are passing from life to death. The Second

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<v Speaker 1>American Civil War has been no exception. Most famously, of course,

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<v Speaker 1>soldiers from each of the three armies present at the

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<v Speaker 1>fifteen day Siege of St. Louis reported a wailing man

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<v Speaker 1>who walked among the wounded, healing some and ending the

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<v Speaker 1>lives of others. On the Cascadian Front, rebel forces spoke

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<v Speaker 1>of black bears, who in effect stood central for their

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<v Speaker 1>guerrilla positions. During the White Army's occupation of Washington, d C.

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<v Speaker 1>Civilians and soldiers alike reported apparitions pouring out from the

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<v Speaker 1>Pentagon Crater every new moon. Of all the various myths

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<v Speaker 1>and legends to spring up in the wake of the

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<v Speaker 1>recent conflict, however, I find myself most strongly drawn to

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<v Speaker 1>the stories of the Northern host. Never have I heard

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<v Speaker 1>a myth recounted in such detail by such a wide

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<v Speaker 1>variety of people. My favorite telling comes from Private Sarah

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<v Speaker 1>Dollar in the Battle of Ashville. This interview was recorded

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<v Speaker 1>in the spring of and lightly edited for clarity with

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<v Speaker 1>permission of the subject. Note that the subject refers to

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<v Speaker 1>the White Army by pejoratives throughout. These have been left

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<v Speaker 1>intact for the historical record. Could you introduce yourself and

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<v Speaker 1>tell me what you saw. Yeah, my my name is

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<v Speaker 1>Sarah Daher. I'm thirty one years old. I live in

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<v Speaker 1>Ashville and the Appalachian region of the United States of

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<v Speaker 1>America on stolen Cherokee Land. My u S military rank

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<v Speaker 1>was private. They may us all privates when they incorporated

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<v Speaker 1>the Irregulars into the Army, but I only served in

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<v Speaker 1>the Union to fight the White Army a year later.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm one of those crazy radicals who doesn't think the

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<v Speaker 1>reconfiguration goes far enough. I've never fired a gun in

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<v Speaker 1>my life before the Irregulars, and I hope I never

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<v Speaker 1>fired another one again. By temperament, I'm neither a lover

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<v Speaker 1>nor a fighter. I'm just your average trans girl who

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<v Speaker 1>likes cats and hates Nazis. I fought in three engagements

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<v Speaker 1>in Weaverville, Leicester, and Asheville. I think I killed two people.

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<v Speaker 1>One of them I know I killed him. I saw

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<v Speaker 1>him bleed out and I saw him taken away in

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<v Speaker 1>a black bag. The other person was a man I

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<v Speaker 1>shot in the thigh during the Battle of Asheville. I

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<v Speaker 1>didn't know you could die from a bullet in the thigh,

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<v Speaker 1>but I've spent a lot of time looking at casualty records,

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<v Speaker 1>and someone who fit that man's general description died in

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<v Speaker 1>that battle from a bullet to the thigh. Does that

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<v Speaker 1>bother you? Yes, No, I don't know. I don't lose

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<v Speaker 1>sleep over it, but I think about it a lot.

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<v Speaker 1>I look at the docks on both of them. The

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<v Speaker 1>first guy was a true believer, a real blood and

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<v Speaker 1>soil type. It doesn't bother me that I mingled those

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<v Speaker 1>two things for him. The second man, though, I'm not

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<v Speaker 1>so sure, he signed up because his son signed up.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't have any kids myself, but I could see

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<v Speaker 1>myself doing that. His son survived the war. Have you

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<v Speaker 1>been in contact with his son? Now? Funk? That guy

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<v Speaker 1>that kids a fucking Nazi and I don't know how

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<v Speaker 1>he talked his way out of the tribunals. Can you

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<v Speaker 1>tell me what you saw at the Battle of Asheville.

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<v Speaker 1>This was during the Fascist Spring Offensive last year, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>Hitler's birthday April. By that point, the White Army was

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<v Speaker 1>pretty much done, but they weren't about to go down

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<v Speaker 1>without doing some major symbolic damage. So there were about

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<v Speaker 1>forty of us, all irregulars, with our own commanders, no

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<v Speaker 1>army oversight. Morale was down. We felt pretty abandoned. Common

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<v Speaker 1>sentiment in the South I was on the street out

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<v Speaker 1>in front of the library, walking rounds. Downtown was half

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<v Speaker 1>rubble at that point. Only the library was standing because

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<v Speaker 1>symbols matter and all that bullsh ship, So that's where

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<v Speaker 1>we were making a stand. Neither side had artillery. Really

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<v Speaker 1>by that point, the brass had just commandeered even our

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<v Speaker 1>RPGs for the quote real fight. Air support wasn't coming,

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<v Speaker 1>not for them and not for us. Really, the Battle

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<v Speaker 1>of Ashville was was like nothing to the rest of

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<v Speaker 1>the world, and we knew it. So I was doing

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<v Speaker 1>the rounds thinking about my ship luck, thinking maybe I

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<v Speaker 1>was going to die, and how so many people had died,

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<v Speaker 1>and what's another dead girl to add to the pile.

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<v Speaker 1>I was thinking about how at least this dead girl

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<v Speaker 1>is going to die surrounded by or in defensive books.

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<v Speaker 1>And then I heard dogs from around the side of

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<v Speaker 1>the building. One barked loud and near, the other sort

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<v Speaker 1>of distant and echoy. I went to check it out,

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<v Speaker 1>turned the corner and there was this naked guy. He

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<v Speaker 1>was pale as hell, tall, tattooed and scarred, and like

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<v Speaker 1>I said, he was naked as the sun. I stared

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<v Speaker 1>at him, he stared at me. I got so distracted

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<v Speaker 1>trying to figure him out that it took me a

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<v Speaker 1>moment to realize there were nine others behind him, or

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<v Speaker 1>maybe they weren't there at first. I don't know. Oh

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<v Speaker 1>most of them were men, mostly of the tall Norse

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<v Speaker 1>looking variety, but there was a Middle Eastern man and

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<v Speaker 1>three women, including one who by my read was Latin

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<v Speaker 1>X No dogs anywhere that I could see. The man

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<v Speaker 1>closest to me he asked me something in a language

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<v Speaker 1>I didn't know. I just kind of stared. He asked

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<v Speaker 1>me another question in another language. What I asked? Who

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<v Speaker 1>are you? Who are we fighting? He asked? His accent

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<v Speaker 1>was thick, and I couldn't place it for the life

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<v Speaker 1>of me. I mean, I know now, but I sure

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<v Speaker 1>as ship didn't know it then we I asked what

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<v Speaker 1>I was due back out front, because I was a

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<v Speaker 1>century doing the rounds and this sure needed reporting. But

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<v Speaker 1>what the hell was I going to tell? People? Who

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<v Speaker 1>are we fighting? Where are we You're in Asheville? Who

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<v Speaker 1>are you? Ah? The American conflict? The man said behind him.

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<v Speaker 1>Others nodded. Their movements were sloppy, dream like they were drunk.

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<v Speaker 1>I later realized one of them had dried blood running

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<v Speaker 1>down from her lip onto her not insubstantial. Ally, you're

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<v Speaker 1>fighting the nationalists, the first one said, we're here to

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<v Speaker 1>help you. Who are you, I asked this third time

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<v Speaker 1>he actually answered, my name is bell Gear. We are

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<v Speaker 1>the dead. We are the inn here from Valhalla. Every

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<v Speaker 1>day we are sent to a battle to fight, and

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<v Speaker 1>we die. The others behind him nodded, definitely drunk. Now,

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<v Speaker 1>I know there were good folks on our side who

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<v Speaker 1>were into European paganism, but you have to understand that

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<v Speaker 1>a lot more of the fashion were into that ship

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<v Speaker 1>than anybody else. If they hadn't been naked and drunk,

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<v Speaker 1>I might have mistaken them for the enemy and shot them. Valhalla,

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<v Speaker 1>I said, reciting the tiny bit I knew that's where

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<v Speaker 1>Vikings go if they die in battle, feast every day

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<v Speaker 1>and fight every night in Odin's hall until the end

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<v Speaker 1>of the world, where you like also fight and die.

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<v Speaker 1>But wolf eats the sun or something close enough. Bell

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<v Speaker 1>Gear said, I mean Odin only gets half the battle dead,

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<v Speaker 1>and Viking isn't a good name for us. But sure,

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<v Speaker 1>and you're here because we are to take arms alongside you,

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<v Speaker 1>fight your enemies and die Today am I going to

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<v Speaker 1>die today? Only the seers and the gods know that.

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<v Speaker 1>I've been calling myself a witch half my life, but

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<v Speaker 1>honestly that was mostly because I like taro and astrology

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<v Speaker 1>and panagrams and ship I've never been someone who took

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<v Speaker 1>the supernatural all that seriously. But nothing in the world

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<v Speaker 1>made sense like it used to. Fascists had just been

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<v Speaker 1>driven out of d C. Cascadia had not only succeeded,

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<v Speaker 1>but was in a civil war of its own now.

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<v Speaker 1>Mexico was gone and replaced by self governing states of

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<v Speaker 1>almost every stripe in the political rainbow. China had backed

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<v Speaker 1>white supremacists and other nationalist types in an American civil war,

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<v Speaker 1>and antigovernment leftists were fighting alongside weirdos like me in

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<v Speaker 1>the damn u s Army. I can't say those things

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<v Speaker 1>were as weird as naked dead don't call us vikings

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<v Speaker 1>talking to me in the street. But somehow all of

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<v Speaker 1>that was just comparably bizarre. Come let us arm ourselves

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<v Speaker 1>and fight together. You and I Belger said, So that's

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<v Speaker 1>how I'm the Northern host. Most people don't believe me,

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<v Speaker 1>assume it was just some kind of drunk wing nuts.

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<v Speaker 1>Maybe some irregulars I've never met before, but I saw

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<v Speaker 1>what I saw, and I believe it. The rest of

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<v Speaker 1>us who survived they saw it too, And how did

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<v Speaker 1>it go? Yeah? Pardon the battle? How did it go?

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<v Speaker 1>We got the iron here yard into irregular's garb and

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<v Speaker 1>armed them. There were plenty of guns at that point

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<v Speaker 1>in the forgotten hellhole of front. Bullets not so much,

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<v Speaker 1>but plenty of guns. They were all comfortable with firearms,

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<v Speaker 1>though one fellow groused about what he wouldn't do for

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<v Speaker 1>an axe and shield, and another said what we had

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<v Speaker 1>was fine, but monofilament web guns were better than any

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<v Speaker 1>combat shotgun. To hear them, tell it, funk it? Why

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<v Speaker 1>am I pretending like I don't believe them? I believe

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<v Speaker 1>them with every bit of my soul, and damn what

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<v Speaker 1>people think of me for it. The Northern Host fight

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<v Speaker 1>every night, and every night. They are in a different

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<v Speaker 1>time and place. Most battles in human history were in

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<v Speaker 1>the past, they said, which sounds optimistic, doesn't it, But

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<v Speaker 1>they said they fought in every century up to the

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<v Speaker 1>Nothing happen after the twenty four century. Ragnarok most likely

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<v Speaker 1>the end of the world, wolves eating the sun, and

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<v Speaker 1>the moon all that. They stood guard out with me

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<v Speaker 1>out front. Around midday we got hit with an e MP.

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<v Speaker 1>We knew that was coming. It didn't screw us up much.

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<v Speaker 1>We had a hardened phone in the basement, and all

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<v Speaker 1>our weapons operated just as well in dumb mode a

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<v Speaker 1>smart mode, including our own e MPs. The White Army

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<v Speaker 1>showed up, maybe a hundred men, all men, that's their

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<v Speaker 1>whole stick. They came in on motorcycles and a t

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<v Speaker 1>v s and horses more stick. Like a fucking folksy

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<v Speaker 1>they are. We hit them with the m e mp

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<v Speaker 1>s anyway level the field, took out the a t

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<v Speaker 1>v s, the bikes were retrofitted, no electric and a horse.

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<v Speaker 1>You can't impel horse. I don't know if there was

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<v Speaker 1>a skirmish in that war that didn't start with both

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<v Speaker 1>sides ritually knocking the other one back to basically the

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<v Speaker 1>twentieth century. I think the tactical e MP is the

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<v Speaker 1>reason there's anything left of this country. We took a

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<v Speaker 1>few pot shots while they were still at range, but

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<v Speaker 1>we didn't have the AMMO to waste on anything else.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't think we'd at any damage. They took up

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<v Speaker 1>position further up the hill and the ruins of the

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<v Speaker 1>old Basilica. Then we waited. We should have mined the church.

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<v Speaker 1>That old thing was blown half to ship. Anyway, it

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<v Speaker 1>wouldn't have made the world any worse if we'd either

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<v Speaker 1>leveled it or hidden explosives throughout. But you know, ethical

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<v Speaker 1>war or whatever, don't mind churches. The other side leveled

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<v Speaker 1>every mosques, inn agogue and quote heretic church they got

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<v Speaker 1>their hands on, not to mention libraries and universities and

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<v Speaker 1>even the goddamn Statue of Liberty because they hate immigrants.

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<v Speaker 1>But we were supposed to be fighting a quote ethical war.

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<v Speaker 1>Those two words don't got nothing to do with one another,

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<v Speaker 1>and everyone knows it. So they hold up in the Basilica,

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<v Speaker 1>and we pulled back into the library and we had

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<v Speaker 1>one of those good old fashioned standoffs where people die

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<v Speaker 1>slowly from sniper fire and everything is awful. That's when

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<v Speaker 1>Laura got shot right in the head because we missed

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<v Speaker 1>a spot when we bulletproof the facade. She's dead. She

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<v Speaker 1>had natural red hair, but she always died at Redder

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<v Speaker 1>And her favorite show is by for the Vampire Slayer.

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<v Speaker 1>And she liked to drink water out of long stem glasses.

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<v Speaker 1>She was I think she was thirty seven, way past

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<v Speaker 1>rafting age. She volunteered. It was her first engagement. She

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<v Speaker 1>was only there because she loved books, had plenty of

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<v Speaker 1>time to avoid looking at her corpse while she was

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<v Speaker 1>in there with us dead. Dwight was another one of

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<v Speaker 1>my friends in the unit, one of my favorite people,

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<v Speaker 1>hands down, total weirdo, and he was all obsessed with

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<v Speaker 1>that Viking ship and Dark ages in general. Both his

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<v Speaker 1>parents had come over from Sweden, though his dad was

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<v Speaker 1>originally from Nigeria. Dwight had one degree in medieval studies

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<v Speaker 1>in another African history, and I can't tell you how

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<v Speaker 1>many times during basic he'd run down the details of

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<v Speaker 1>this or that ancient battle, whether in Europe or Africa.

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<v Speaker 1>If there were guns involved, he didn't care about it,

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<v Speaker 1>but if there were swords in armor or spears and shields,

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<v Speaker 1>he was all in. He started talking to the Vikings

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<v Speaker 1>first thing. He was the first person to believe them,

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<v Speaker 1>to to really believe them, and his faith was contagious.

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<v Speaker 1>While we were pinned down, he asked them everything. Mostly

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<v Speaker 1>they were quiet, even taciturn, but there was one thing

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<v Speaker 1>they were very insistent on, and that I overheard them

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<v Speaker 1>talking about Nazis don't go to Valhalla. But why not?

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<v Speaker 1>Dwight asked, It takes two things to go to Valhalla.

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<v Speaker 1>The spokesperson said, you have to die in battle, and

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<v Speaker 1>you have to venerate Odin. A bunch of those fuckers

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<v Speaker 1>are Odiness, he said, no, they aren't. They're nationalist, fascists,

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<v Speaker 1>racial separatists are all kinds of things, but they don't

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<v Speaker 1>venerate Odin. Whatever they think, What do you mean? They

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<v Speaker 1>only know one half of Odin. They know the masculine side,

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<v Speaker 1>the heterosexual side, the Christian side. They worship a bastardization

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<v Speaker 1>of our God, a bastardization first created by a nationalist

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<v Speaker 1>Christian eight hundred years ago that's only gotten further afield

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<v Speaker 1>since our Odin practices women's magic, the magic of these

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<v Speaker 1>sexually penetrated. We also worship female gods of war, and

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<v Speaker 1>male gods of the hearth, and gods who change their

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<v Speaker 1>gender when they're board. Nazis don't understand that any of it.

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<v Speaker 1>In life, we aided, sometimes traded. Other times we also

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<v Speaker 1>did all sorts of things that won't fit your modern sensibilities,

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<v Speaker 1>things that were I alive. You might kill me for

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<v Speaker 1>but we're not Nazis, and people who worship a Christian

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<v Speaker 1>version of our God most certainly do not go to Valhalla.

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<v Speaker 1>It was as if the man had used up every

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<v Speaker 1>word allotted to him for the day, because I don't

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<v Speaker 1>believe one of them spoke again before the battle began

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<v Speaker 1>in earnest And how long was that another hour? Maybe

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<v Speaker 1>the sun was still right overhead when the White Army

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<v Speaker 1>rushed us. It was a bullshit move, rushing us one

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<v Speaker 1>part over confidence in one part desperation. If you can

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<v Speaker 1>imagine that they knew they were losing the war at

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<v Speaker 1>that point, but they had us more than two to one,

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<v Speaker 1>and we all know that KKK commanders don't give two

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<v Speaker 1>ships about the lives of their men. That's when I

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<v Speaker 1>put a bullet on a man's leg while he was

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<v Speaker 1>in the street running. It was a good shot. He

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<v Speaker 1>was running, and I led the target and everything. I've

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<v Speaker 1>been aiming for center body mass, but but still at

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<v Speaker 1>least a hundred yards against a moving target. I was

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<v Speaker 1>proud of that shot at the time on a technical level,

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<v Speaker 1>even if I'm not sure I'm proud of it any

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<v Speaker 1>more now that I know the man's name. We expected

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<v Speaker 1>the charge. What we didn't expect was the ordinance that

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<v Speaker 1>knocked the reinforced front off its hinges. But that happened,

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<v Speaker 1>and almost all the fighting happened right there on the

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<v Speaker 1>first floor among the empty shelves. The whole thing felt

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<v Speaker 1>like it lasted half an hour. I've looked it up since.

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<v Speaker 1>From the time of the first blast at the time

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<v Speaker 1>the last shot was fired, we're talking about three minutes.

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<v Speaker 1>In twelve seconds, we thought they were going to pour

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<v Speaker 1>in through the door after they blew at the funk off.

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<v Speaker 1>So James got in there with our one functioning automatic

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<v Speaker 1>and he took at least ten of the fash down

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<v Speaker 1>with him before someone got him in the neck. It

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<v Speaker 1>was a faint and they blew a hole in the

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<v Speaker 1>side of the building while well that was going on,

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<v Speaker 1>and that's where they got in close quarters combat. As

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<v Speaker 1>a whole different beast, a worse one, maybe maybe a

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<v Speaker 1>better one. I go back on forth on that sometimes

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<v Speaker 1>instead of sleeping, I think about the pros and cons

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<v Speaker 1>of various types of absolute are Is it better to

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<v Speaker 1>see your death coming or to get picked off without

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<v Speaker 1>knowing it. I would have thought the Vikings would expend

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<v Speaker 1>themselves right off I mean Vikings. They were starting to

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<v Speaker 1>sober up by that point, but still they'd been drinking,

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<v Speaker 1>and they were already dead, and they were doomed to die.

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<v Speaker 1>But they were smarter than that. Never risked themselves unnecessarily.

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<v Speaker 1>Your next assumption of a comrade you know is doomed

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<v Speaker 1>is that they'll sacrifice themselves to save others. None of

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<v Speaker 1>that either. They knew they were the best trained soldiers

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<v Speaker 1>on the field, and that in order for us to win,

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<v Speaker 1>they had to be in the fight as long as

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<v Speaker 1>they could. They were smart like that. Assholes like that.

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<v Speaker 1>I stationed myself in the back. I fancy myself more

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<v Speaker 1>of a sniper than the assault sort, so I watched

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<v Speaker 1>the whole thing go down. I also only hit three

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<v Speaker 1>targets out of a hundred and seventeen bullets I fired,

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<v Speaker 1>But that's another story. I watched us win. We took

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<v Speaker 1>casualties of fifty half of those were k I A.

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<v Speaker 1>But we defeated a force twice our strength. I watched

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<v Speaker 1>the in hangar bayonet in and shoot them, and I

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<v Speaker 1>saw one of the Viking women break a man's face

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<v Speaker 1>apart with her fists. Soon after, a bullet found her

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<v Speaker 1>heart and she collapsed with a smile on her lips.

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<v Speaker 1>She disappeared like literally she phased out of existence, being

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<v Speaker 1>me up Scotty. We pushed them back onto the pavement,

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<v Speaker 1>And when I say we, I'm honestly not being fair

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<v Speaker 1>because I didn't do much of it myself. We had

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<v Speaker 1>them scattered and running, most of them. Dwight was out there,

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<v Speaker 1>waving a pistol in one hand and swinging a wooden

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<v Speaker 1>stock rifle like a club in the other. A Viking

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<v Speaker 1>with a shotgun stood beside him. I think the same

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<v Speaker 1>fashy little ship killed them both, maybe in the same

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<v Speaker 1>three round burst. I tagged the fashion in his belly,

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<v Speaker 1>and his friends helped him get away, and the remaining

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<v Speaker 1>Nazis ran. He survived his wound. Why do we have

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<v Speaker 1>so much information about the war? Does it do me

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<v Speaker 1>any good to know who I killed and who I didn't?

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<v Speaker 1>And Dwight. Dwight lay alone in the concrete, face down.

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<v Speaker 1>There wasn't much blood, but he was dead. Two ravens

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<v Speaker 1>sat atop him, one on each shoulder. I've never seen

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<v Speaker 1>a raven in Asheville in my life, not before, not since.

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<v Speaker 1>There were two of them, as big as people say

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<v Speaker 1>those things are. They barked, and they sounded like dogs.

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<v Speaker 1>One was loud, like it was right where I was.

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<v Speaker 1>The other was distant, echoing. Then they flew away, directly

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<v Speaker 1>up and towards the sun, and I tried to watch

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<v Speaker 1>to see where they went, but you can't look directly

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<v Speaker 1>at the sun like that. I looked back down and

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<v Speaker 1>Dwight was gone. Okay, so his body was still there,

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<v Speaker 1>but there was there was something about him that was gone,

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<v Speaker 1>and I don't know how to tell you what it was.

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<v Speaker 1>That that was that we won sort of. They didn't

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<v Speaker 1>storm the library, which I guess means we won. But

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<v Speaker 1>sometimes I think I'd burn every single book in that place.

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<v Speaker 1>It would bring back Lord or Dwight or any of

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<v Speaker 1>the rest of my friends. The war was over at

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<v Speaker 1>that point, even if we didn't know it yet. So

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<v Speaker 1>what did they die for? I guess for symbols. Maybe

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<v Speaker 1>symbols matter that much. I don't know. I deserted after that,

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<v Speaker 1>half the survivors of the Battle of Asheville less than

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<v Speaker 1>a week later up in Pittsburgh, and I suppose I'd

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<v Speaker 1>be dead if I had gone, And it probably makes

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<v Speaker 1>me a coward that I didn't It's not that I

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<v Speaker 1>was afraid of dying. It's that I was afraid of

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<v Speaker 1>dying in battle because I believe in Odin Now it's

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<v Speaker 1>hard not to believe in a god without venerating him.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't want to go to Valhalla. I don't want

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<v Speaker 1>to fight ever again, let alone every night. I don't

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<v Speaker 1>want to serve with the iron and yard at the

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<v Speaker 1>twilight of the gods sometime in the century. If I

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<v Speaker 1>don't want to do that, then I don't want to

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<v Speaker 1>die in battle. Dwight, though I expect he's happy. I

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<v Speaker 1>expect he dies every day with a smile on his

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<v Speaker 1>lips and meat and his belly. He won't have to

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<v Speaker 1>fight alongside the monsters of the human race either, because,

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<v Speaker 1>as I learned in Nashville, Nazis don't go to Valhalla.

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<v Speaker 1>All right, that was awesome, markret thing you Yeah, thanks.

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<v Speaker 1>D'll put a bunch of applause noise here because translating

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<v Speaker 1>over yeah and and and and uh an air horn

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<v Speaker 1>stick an, I don't think the air horn is going

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<v Speaker 1>to be that as no Garrison air horn show. Thank you,

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<v Speaker 1>thank you, Garrison. Margaret Um, how long ago did you

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<v Speaker 1>write that? I wrote that I believe in two seventeen May.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh yeah, well it's not gotten less relevant. Yeah, man,

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<v Speaker 1>I uh, there's definitely some times where I've I've wished

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<v Speaker 1>for a platoon of vikings uh to deal with some ship.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah uh, well this has been it could happen here,

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<v Speaker 1>and this has been spooky week. You enjoyed this scary

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<v Speaker 1>story that's also relevant to our theme of collapse. Margaret,

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<v Speaker 1>you want to tell the people where they can find you. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm on Twitter at Magpie kill Joy. I'm on Instagram

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<v Speaker 1>because you've asked me to plug things, and I'm definitely

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<v Speaker 1>just gonna go ahead and plug things. Um. I have

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<v Speaker 1>a book coming out from a K Press. It's a

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<v Speaker 1>reissue of my anarchist utopian book, A Country of Ghosts.

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<v Speaker 1>If you like my very I like writing war stories,

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<v Speaker 1>but I specifically like writing war stories that are actually sad.

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<v Speaker 1>And how about how war is horrible? Um, and so

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<v Speaker 1>A Country of Ghosts is such a book and this

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<v Speaker 1>story will eventually I'm excited to say I just signed

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<v Speaker 1>the contract for a k Press is going to put

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<v Speaker 1>out a short story anthology of mine which will include

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<v Speaker 1>this story. Yeah, that sounds incredibly rad Yes, great publisher. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>not biased at all in that. No, no, no, nor

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<v Speaker 1>towards stories of the Second American Civil War with superior

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<v Speaker 1>I've been introduced to just today. Um, all right, we'll

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<v Speaker 1>check out Margaret's book Parentheses. S uh and and um,

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<v Speaker 1>check out this show when it comes back someday one day.

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