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Speaker 1: Edge Martinez in Real Life podcast. This episode and conversation

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Speaker 1: is powered by Adu sa Hey. Everybody, welcome back to

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Speaker 1: another edition of Edge Martinez IRL Takeaways, where we discussed

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Speaker 1: some of our amazing conversations that we have with our guests.

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Speaker 1: This takeaway episode is about our Janelle Money conversation. First

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Speaker 1: of all, we shot this interview. By the way, Brittany

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Speaker 1: is here. Brittany Ortine. This is my show producer, sometimes director,

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Speaker 1: sometimes catering, sometimes booking. All the things we loved Janelle.

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Speaker 1: The night before we shot this interview, I went to

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Speaker 1: a listening session for her upcoming album that the label

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Speaker 1: had invited me too. It's like a really nice rooms,

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Speaker 1: you know some label people, which usually those things are

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Speaker 1: like stuffing me and like everybody acts too good to

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Speaker 1: vibe out to anything. So Janelle walks into the event.

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Speaker 1: Were you there with me? Yes? Oh, you were there.

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Speaker 1: It was all read in the room. There was there

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Speaker 1: was food, It was a vibe. Immediately, there was a vibe.

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Speaker 1: You walked in the drinks and the setting was good.

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Speaker 1: And then Janelle shows up to the thing with her

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Speaker 1: crew and they're performing and singing and vibing to every song.

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Speaker 1: It was. I didn't feel the need to want to

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Speaker 1: get up. It was so entertaining just watching them. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: that she sucked me right into like I'm I'm in,

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Speaker 1: I'm in on the album No matter what, whether I

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Speaker 1: was interviewing her or not, she just takes you to

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Speaker 1: this like world and it's very sexy, and she's an

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Speaker 1: amazing performer, and she had just come off of Knives Out,

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Speaker 1: and so you know, she's a movie star, musician, star,

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Speaker 1: all the things. But I honestly really didn't know much

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Speaker 1: about her human side, Like I had never really I'd

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Speaker 1: interviewed her once on the radio before, but it was

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Speaker 1: a very kind of like about your project type of interview,

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Speaker 1: and so you know, it was interested to see what

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Speaker 1: was gonna come out of it. I really didn't have

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Speaker 1: much of an agenda except to say that I really

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Speaker 1: liked the song float, and you know, she what else.

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Speaker 1: She appears to be so free, and she appears to

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Speaker 1: be comfortable in her sexuality, more so now lately than ever,

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Speaker 1: which people don't always know how to receive, and so

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Speaker 1: I knew that those kind of things would come up,

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Speaker 1: but I don't know, I was kind of surprised. I

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Speaker 1: feel like we I feel like she came in. I

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Speaker 1: don't know. I feel like it was one of those

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Speaker 1: times where I didn't necessarily lead the conversation, like a

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Speaker 1: conversation just kind of happened. And she has so many

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Speaker 1: kind of ideas about life and where she is in

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Speaker 1: her life that she just came to the table with

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Speaker 1: stuff to say. Does that make sense?

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Speaker 2: Yeah?

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Speaker 1: We always love that, right right, As people who do

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Speaker 1: a podcast, we like when people come with things to say.

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Speaker 1: She pulled out her phone and she had notes in

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Speaker 1: her formation affirmations that she could share, which were really good.

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Speaker 1: I love the toast that we that we did to

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Speaker 1: the lives.

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Speaker 3: We lead, to the dreams we chase, to the dreams

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Speaker 3: we chase, to the moments that we make, and to

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Speaker 3: the fucked up shit we can't rate to.

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Speaker 1: The moments we make and fuck them shit we can't rape.

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Speaker 3: Cheers to you.

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Speaker 1: So yes, I feel like that that's a great toast.

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Speaker 1: I feel like if I was drunk somewhere, that toast

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Speaker 1: would be really good to the fuck that shit we get.

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Speaker 1: It improves with the liquor. Yeah, I feel like I

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Speaker 1: want to try that somewhere at some point. One of

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Speaker 1: the takeaways I had was when we're talking about her sexuality.

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Speaker 1: And it's funny because I was reluctant to bring it

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Speaker 1: up for the reasons I mentioned during the pod about like,

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Speaker 1: I get it, she doesn't want to be the poster

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Speaker 1: talking about that every day. It's like any of us.

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Speaker 1: It's like, imagine you had to talk about your relationships

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Speaker 1: with your significant other, gay, straight, whatever you are, Like,

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Speaker 1: I don't want to do that all the time. Like

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Speaker 3: I'm proud to be queer, Like I'm proud to be

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Speaker 3: what I'm saying, and but speaking about it sometimes does

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Speaker 3: so you need to say the right things all that.

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Speaker 3: I don't put that pressure myself. I speak for me.

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Speaker 3: I love though, that people can identify with what it

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Speaker 3: is that I'm saying and they feel empowered, they feel seen.

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Speaker 1: That's important.

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Speaker 3: Yes, I remember where I was in my life, and

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Speaker 3: I remember loving Lauren Hill. I felt seen. I felt like, ah,

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Speaker 3: I love one, this is where I'm at.

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Speaker 1: It was interesting to me for her to hear her

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Speaker 1: directly hurt people, you know, yeah, her community or that

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Speaker 2: Yeah, we could play that part so you don't have

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Speaker 1: Yeah, Yeah, I like that. I think it's something to

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Speaker 1: like a why don't you come out? But I get it,

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Speaker 1: I get it. It's your choice. I mean you have to.

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Speaker 1: And you know, I respect her for being for taking

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Speaker 1: I'm on it, but she says, definitely seems free. That

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Speaker 2: part about making my inner voice being the biggest voice.

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Speaker 3: I have to remember and remind myself that my inner voice,

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Speaker 3: it's great when people are complimenting you and giving you

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Speaker 1: We say those things, but it's important to remember them

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Speaker 1: how many years have you known me?

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Speaker 1: we do, but imperfection is actually more interesting, which is

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Speaker 1: what Janelle was saying, and so that journey and the

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Speaker 1: then like let it go, it just relieves you of pressure.

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Speaker 1: You can enjoy the moments better. And sometimes magic happens

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Speaker 3: Yes?

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Speaker 1: Yeah, So I loved that because I have I have

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Speaker 2: And even when you're a master or you think you've

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Speaker 1: It's so true, And don't be afraid and enjoy that process.

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Speaker 3: Don't be afraid to be a beginner. Yes, you don't

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Speaker 3: You have it figured out. Versus when you don't, you're

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Speaker 3: Like you need to be smoking to commune. Okay, go

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Speaker 3: We're creating our own worlds.

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Speaker 1: Right Listen, that's not a small thing. People we get

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Speaker 1: I'm working. Your life is a vacation, is it?

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Speaker 1: No, it's not. My life is not a vacation.

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Speaker 2: No. I'm implementing the ideology that you are. This is

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Speaker 1: Yes, this is the matrix. She definitely said that a

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Speaker 1: I don't know, it was just it was a lovely experience.

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Speaker 1: She's a she's a phenomenal artist, and I learned a

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