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Speaker 1: seven pm Wednesday night at the Cowboys Club in Frisco, Texas.

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Speaker 1: That can mean only one thing. This is the Power Hour.

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Speaker 1: This is Cowboys cross Talk and we are going to

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Speaker 1: bring it to you heavy for the next hour. Shannon

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Speaker 1: Gross to my right, Kevin Gray from the flagship station

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Speaker 1: one oh five three the fan. How's it going, Kevin?

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Speaker 1: Good to be here at the Cowboys Club, Shannon Head

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Speaker 1: sitting next to Royalty on my right here, So I'm

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Speaker 1: just happy to be in the place this evening with

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Speaker 1: passing along. Who is to your right well next to

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Speaker 1: me is a six time pro bowler. It needs no

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Speaker 1: introduction introduction, but I'm gonna introduce him anyway. It is

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Speaker 1: Nate Newton joining us. Hey, what's up something, man? I'm

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Speaker 1: excited about being him but more important, I'm gonna let Grace.

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Speaker 1: Is he doing it like that? I'm gonna do this

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Speaker 1: dude over tomorrow. Yeah. Well, further to my right, I

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Speaker 1: got a proud boomer Sooner from Norman, Oklahoma, where he

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Speaker 1: resided and played terrific college football, Tony Casius joining Tony.

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Speaker 1: Welcome to Yes sing off for Tony. You've been man.

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Speaker 1: Last time we saw you, we were doing all this virtual.

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Speaker 1: It's good to see you in person. It's good to

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Speaker 1: be here hanging out. How have you been, man? I'm

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Speaker 1: got a lot better. You know. This guy's sitting next

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Speaker 1: to me. It's from an hour just nothing but fun

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Speaker 1: and um. One thing I do remember the last time

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Speaker 1: I was at a cowboys club. I believe that was

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Speaker 1: Valley Ranch, and that was that was totally different cowboys club, boy,

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Speaker 1: It is nothing like this. But nevertheless, it's great to

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Speaker 1: be here, man. I'm looking forward to Good to have

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Speaker 1: you man, Good to have you forore we get into

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Speaker 1: the cowboy stuff. What about you Sooners? This year looking

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Speaker 1: pretty good. How you feel about it? Well, I'm a

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Speaker 1: little abivalent about him because I saw what happened to

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Speaker 1: him against two Lane, and every year we you know,

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Speaker 1: we're ranked relatively high, we got a tremendous quarterback, I guess,

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Speaker 1: and Spencer Rattlers still I think the jury's out on him.

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Speaker 1: But uh, you know the thing with Oklahoma, you just

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Speaker 1: want to be there at the end, correct. And if

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Speaker 1: they're there at the end, didn't you know that they

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Speaker 1: have a pretty good chance of winning a Big twelve championship.

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Speaker 1: I still it's kind of foreign to think about them

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Speaker 1: being the SEC and SEC BI SEC, and I'm like,

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Speaker 1: oh my gosh, there's no two lanes, there's no Kansas States,

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Speaker 1: there's no Texas. I'm sorry, but I'll probably get a

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Speaker 1: glad of grief for that. But um, we'll be there.

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Speaker 1: But it's always it seems like it's always the narrative.

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Speaker 1: It's all about the defense. And you know, Spencer Rattler

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Speaker 1: But uh, we'll be there at the end til we

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Speaker 1: get the SEC. As you mentioned, and then you played

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Speaker 1: big boy football. Yeah all right, well, Kevin, let's get

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Speaker 1: into the Cowboys. Let's let you have first shot at it. Yes, sir,

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Speaker 1: two games in man, Okay, first game. We're not gonna

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Speaker 1: talk about moral victories on this show, we're not allowed

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Speaker 1: to do that. One thing I have learned hanging out

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Speaker 1: with Nate, you don't talk about moral victories around former

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Speaker 1: NFL players because those things don't exist. To fans they do,

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Speaker 1: to former players, they do not. So we're not even

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Speaker 1: gonna down that road. Well played game against Tampa, well played, dirty,

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Speaker 1: of the season into the playoffs. What's your what's your

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Speaker 1: what's your take on the team so far? Two games

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Speaker 1: in after two games being one in one, knowing how

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Speaker 1: the road against a talented Chargers football team. You we've

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Speaker 1: the Cowboys have wanted to play, right, the offense complimenting

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Speaker 1: you're not good. I always feel like that way. Yea,

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Speaker 1: oh and two. Yeah, So you know, I think that's

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Speaker 1: and when you get in the red zone and keep

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Speaker 1: A lot of people were about yards you know, and

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Speaker 1: what did you what was your I guess brightest most encouraging.

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Speaker 1: There are a lot of a lot of really good

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Speaker 1: there were a lot of real encouraging things. Turnovers are

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Speaker 1: but like you said, Tony, they still happened. They used

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Speaker 1: to take the ball down and score. And that's exactly

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Speaker 1: And you know whatever, however you get turnovers, some takeaways,

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Speaker 1: Dallas is doing that pretty well in the first two

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Speaker 1: as Tony mentioned, that's a mindset. We saw some of

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Speaker 1: So we talk about that complimentary football. I think for me,

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Speaker 1: That was huge for me because they came out a

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Speaker 1: we had a disappointing loss against Tampa. We're come in

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Speaker 1: and ready to play ball. And that's exactly what they did.

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Speaker 1: Mica pars is what he did, being able to play

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Speaker 1: done that, and you're just like, how did he do that?

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Speaker 1: You know? The thing for him, he's so athletic, and

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Speaker 1: they can attest to this. Those offensive linemen, especially tackles,

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Speaker 1: they hate speed. Yes, very infurious speed, and when you

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Speaker 1: got a guy out there, they can run that fast.

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Speaker 1: And some of the things that he does is just

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Speaker 1: it's almost like doing a cone drill. It's change of direction.

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Speaker 1: And I don't know, I don't think it's an anomaly.

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Speaker 1: I think when you don't have game tape from someone

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Speaker 1: They talk about that a little bit Tony. Tony mentioned it,

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Speaker 1: some jet sweeps, doing those kinds of things. So I

427
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Speaker 1: thought Keller Moore called a fantastic game. And it's something

428
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Speaker 1: that he's being malleable to the opponents that he has.

429
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Speaker 1: He's not beholden to an opponent each week, and you're

430
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Speaker 1: seeing that each time he gets out there and play calling.

431
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Speaker 1: I'm gonna let you add on because I'm laughing a

432
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Speaker 1: little bit. I'm gonna let you add onto that tone.

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Speaker 1: No carry on, Yeah, I'll tell you what we gotta

434
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Speaker 1: We gotta get off of Kellen Moore because I called

435
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Speaker 1: him Kevin Moore twice in a row because of Kevin

436
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Speaker 1: Gray is sitting to my right. So after this, no

437
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Speaker 1: more Kellen Moore. It ain't it ain't gonna beat Josh Hype.

438
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Speaker 1: Last we gotta called called justusin Herbert Josh Hype like

439
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Speaker 1: three different times. Oh man, you usually just talking about

440
00:24:00,840 --> 00:24:05,160
Speaker 1: the sooner Nato Butcher a name, but I've never had

441
00:24:05,200 --> 00:24:08,520
Speaker 1: heard him call a guy completely different person. Yeah, yeah,

442
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Speaker 1: And now this is the amazing thing. And this is

443
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Speaker 1: what I like about coaches that understand their players more

444
00:24:16,320 --> 00:24:20,760
Speaker 1: importantly when the players understand their roles. Now it looks

445
00:24:20,840 --> 00:24:25,320
Speaker 1: like coach is calling these fantastic plays. I think what

446
00:24:25,400 --> 00:24:28,880
Speaker 1: he's doing better, a better job. And him and Dak

447
00:24:28,920 --> 00:24:33,240
Speaker 1: and Concert is calling the right matchups, putting the defense,

448
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Speaker 1: stressing the defense, and it looks it looks like whoa

449
00:24:36,680 --> 00:24:39,600
Speaker 1: because we always ran in the reverse. We always did this,

450
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Speaker 1: and we gave it the polo one too many times

451
00:24:42,240 --> 00:24:45,560
Speaker 1: last year. But now, Jesse, Jesse Holley, our team may

452
00:24:45,600 --> 00:24:50,000
Speaker 1: said something so right, We're putting Tony Pollard in the game.

453
00:24:50,080 --> 00:24:53,000
Speaker 1: He was in there twenty times, eighteen times. They gave

454
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Speaker 1: him the ball sixteen times. What does that say? That

455
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Speaker 1: says that we're gonna use him. Now you strack confere

456
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Speaker 1: into linebackers, you strike conference and safeties because now they

457
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Speaker 1: ain't only just want to bring him in as a decoy,

458
00:25:07,040 --> 00:25:10,080
Speaker 1: They're gonna use it. So now Zeke's still a bang guy.

459
00:25:10,160 --> 00:25:12,720
Speaker 1: He's still a big bang back. Things ain't gonna changing

460
00:25:12,760 --> 00:25:15,200
Speaker 1: that right now. But when you bring in a Tony Polo,

461
00:25:15,280 --> 00:25:18,280
Speaker 1: when you got uh number eighty eight, the last eighty

462
00:25:18,400 --> 00:25:21,040
Speaker 1: wasn't naming city Lamb, City Lamb, ain't gonna messing them

463
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Speaker 1: Oklahoma players. We got cite Lamb coming out of the

464
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Speaker 1: backfield out of that's creative. Yeah, but everything, yes, has

465
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Speaker 1: been what we've been normally doing. But here's the greatest,

466
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Speaker 1: the great the greatness of that. If you're putting Tony

467
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Speaker 1: Poler in the game and he gets a sixteen you said,

468
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Speaker 1: yeah out of eighteen nine, and he's getting the ball

469
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Speaker 1: and he's making plays, What's I tell you, regardless of

470
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Speaker 1: who's in the ball wherever you want to make adjustments,

471
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Speaker 1: if that guy still is what the average like eight

472
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Speaker 1: or nine yards per play, right yeah, and you're not

473
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Speaker 1: stopping it as a defension like, oh my gosh, what

474
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Speaker 1: are we gonna do? Yeah, because we're gonna we're gonna

475
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Speaker 1: try to make you know, to check you know, to adjusting,

476
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Speaker 1: you know, format into that formation. But still we're just

477
00:26:00,600 --> 00:26:03,080
Speaker 1: still not talking and we're still not making those plays.

478
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Speaker 1: And at the end of the day, that really puts

479
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Speaker 1: a lot of stress on their defense and there's a

480
00:26:07,520 --> 00:26:09,560
Speaker 1: lot of doubt that all of a sudden starts settling

481
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Speaker 1: in and that's not a good thing. All Right, we're

482
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Speaker 1: gonna take our next break. When we come back, Let's

483
00:26:14,000 --> 00:26:17,640
Speaker 1: get into some Dak talk, Tony. Let's talk about Yeah,

484
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Speaker 1: Josh hyper they brought it up earlier. They'll do that.

485
00:26:21,160 --> 00:26:25,679
Speaker 1: I'll be calling Dak Josh, don't they brought it up

486
00:26:25,720 --> 00:26:29,159
Speaker 1: earlier when they got you from Atlanta. Talk about what

487
00:26:29,359 --> 00:26:32,600
Speaker 1: that we come back. That situation was, like, how was

488
00:26:32,640 --> 00:26:35,760
Speaker 1: that coming into the Cowboys organization? How was it different

489
00:26:35,760 --> 00:26:37,760
Speaker 1: from where you had been? And then how did you guys,

490
00:26:38,520 --> 00:26:41,280
Speaker 1: you know, build those Super Bowl teams and everything. So

491
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Speaker 1: let's talk about all that when we come back. You're

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Speaker 1: listening to Cowboys Cross Talk. We're alive from Cowboys Club

493
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Speaker 1: here at the Star Frisco and you're listening to us

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Speaker 1: on the Dallas Cowboys Radio Network, to s WBC Mortgages,

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Speaker 1: Cowboys Cross Talk Check broadcasting live from the Cowboys Club

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Speaker 1: at the Star and for Welcome back to the show,

497
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Speaker 1: live from Cowboys Club here in Frisco, Texas. We gotta

498
00:30:07,280 --> 00:30:09,640
Speaker 1: They just opened up the blinds and man, what a

499
00:30:09,760 --> 00:30:12,280
Speaker 1: view they have and from this place, it's gorgeous. It's

500
00:30:12,400 --> 00:30:16,360
Speaker 1: it's so beautiful, so beautiful, almost as beautiful as is

501
00:30:16,400 --> 00:30:19,440
Speaker 1: that smile on, Nate Newton. You know what, I'm gonna

502
00:30:19,440 --> 00:30:21,760
Speaker 1: tell you something, Man, tell me something, Nat. That's the

503
00:30:21,800 --> 00:30:23,520
Speaker 1: only thing I had. Man, once I got all my

504
00:30:23,560 --> 00:30:25,800
Speaker 1: teeth in my head. Man, my mama said, baby, when

505
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Speaker 1: I got a little thunder, Baby, that's all. You gotta

506
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Speaker 1: your smile. Hold on to it. That smile to take

507
00:30:32,040 --> 00:30:36,840
Speaker 1: you a long ways in these days. We need to smile.

508
00:30:37,000 --> 00:30:40,360
Speaker 1: That's right, man, we're a little bit older. We better smile.

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Speaker 1: Nate Shannon grows, Kevin Gray, joined by Tony Casillas. Go ahead, Tony,

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Speaker 1: what we're saying. No, I was just talking about the sunset. Oh,

511
00:30:48,160 --> 00:30:50,960
Speaker 1: this is this is amazing. We see we're just talking

512
00:30:50,960 --> 00:30:53,680
Speaker 1: about this in the break and it's just amazing. We

513
00:30:53,760 --> 00:30:56,160
Speaker 1: thought Valley Ranch was the you know what, but this

514
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Speaker 1: was stated of od it was at the time. It's

515
00:30:58,480 --> 00:31:02,160
Speaker 1: been a long time ago, but this place is this Wow. Yeah,

516
00:31:02,200 --> 00:31:05,000
Speaker 1: it does not get much better. Doesn't get better. It doesn't.

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Speaker 1: Before we get back into the show, BC Mortgage, Tony,

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Speaker 1: pro today. I'm I'm gonna call him. Man, I'm gonna

522
00:31:21,920 --> 00:31:23,840
Speaker 1: call him and I'm gonna make a propos him. What's that?

523
00:31:24,120 --> 00:31:26,480
Speaker 1: Because I need him alone? One hundred thousand dollars for

524
00:31:26,640 --> 00:31:30,480
Speaker 1: what and I want to and I wanna eight hundred

525
00:31:30,560 --> 00:31:35,320
Speaker 1: year mortgage and pay a dollar a year? What are you?

526
00:31:35,600 --> 00:31:36,960
Speaker 1: What are you gonna do with a hundred grand? Though

527
00:31:37,160 --> 00:31:41,200
Speaker 1: I put it in the base, I was gonna invested

528
00:31:41,880 --> 00:31:46,000
Speaker 1: right behind you. Yeah all right, Well, Tony. They brought

529
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Speaker 1: it up last last segment, talked about getting you from

530
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Speaker 1: Atlanta coming into the Cowboys. What was that experience like

531
00:31:52,800 --> 00:31:56,440
Speaker 1: coming into the Cowboy organization? You know it was? It

532
00:31:56,560 --> 00:32:00,520
Speaker 1: was football you for for me? Because you gotta understand

533
00:32:00,520 --> 00:32:02,440
Speaker 1: when I played in doubt. Excuse me. When I played

534
00:32:02,440 --> 00:32:05,280
Speaker 1: in Atlanta. Uh, I was a second player picking in

535
00:32:05,320 --> 00:32:08,719
Speaker 1: the draft, and be careful what you wished for, okay,

536
00:32:09,080 --> 00:32:13,120
Speaker 1: because that's no the indication. Yeah, it's it's an honor

537
00:32:13,640 --> 00:32:16,400
Speaker 1: and you may get obviously paid more, but you're not

538
00:32:16,400 --> 00:32:18,600
Speaker 1: gonna go to a team that's really on the up

539
00:32:18,640 --> 00:32:20,960
Speaker 1: and up. So at the time, I was in Atlanta

540
00:32:21,040 --> 00:32:23,120
Speaker 1: for five years and I just kind of lost my

541
00:32:23,640 --> 00:32:25,880
Speaker 1: passion for playing football. I mean, I still went out

542
00:32:25,880 --> 00:32:29,240
Speaker 1: there and play, but it was there was no it

543
00:32:29,280 --> 00:32:31,240
Speaker 1: was an uphill battle every day. And I think there's

544
00:32:31,240 --> 00:32:33,480
Speaker 1: a lot to be said for playing the game of football,

545
00:32:34,000 --> 00:32:36,640
Speaker 1: especially back in that air, because it was his bang bang,

546
00:32:36,680 --> 00:32:39,840
Speaker 1: and just it was a grind. And so when I

547
00:32:39,840 --> 00:32:43,280
Speaker 1: had the opportunity, it's a true stories. When Atlanta was

548
00:32:43,320 --> 00:32:47,280
Speaker 1: we were playing um the Dallas nineteen I think it

549
00:32:47,360 --> 00:32:50,600
Speaker 1: was ninety, nineteen ninety, and I was an actor. Jerry

550
00:32:50,600 --> 00:32:55,080
Speaker 1: Glanville crazy crazy, asked Jerry Glanville, and I wasn't. I

551
00:32:55,120 --> 00:32:57,320
Speaker 1: wasn't his guy. And there was a truth to that

552
00:32:57,520 --> 00:33:00,960
Speaker 1: limited that because if you're not his guy, especially man,

553
00:33:01,160 --> 00:33:03,560
Speaker 1: especially if your ego is just cam'p fit in the room,

554
00:33:03,600 --> 00:33:05,840
Speaker 1: then you're not gonna fit in. I don't care about

555
00:33:05,880 --> 00:33:08,680
Speaker 1: it doesn't matter what you do. And I just remember

556
00:33:09,040 --> 00:33:11,440
Speaker 1: we were playing Dallas and I was inactive, and I,

557
00:33:11,520 --> 00:33:13,760
Speaker 1: you know, Dave wants that he recruited me. He was

558
00:33:13,760 --> 00:33:16,320
Speaker 1: at Oklahoma State when I was coming out of high school.

559
00:33:16,640 --> 00:33:18,480
Speaker 1: And I went on and start telling, hey, day man,

560
00:33:18,920 --> 00:33:21,560
Speaker 1: they're not gonna bring me back. I don't fit in

561
00:33:21,600 --> 00:33:23,160
Speaker 1: with Jerry. Is there any way you can get me

562
00:33:23,160 --> 00:33:27,680
Speaker 1: the hell out of here? For real? And then I

563
00:33:27,680 --> 00:33:29,880
Speaker 1: guess there was any tampering rules. I don't know that

564
00:33:30,000 --> 00:33:36,680
Speaker 1: statue of at that point myself, let me let me

565
00:33:36,720 --> 00:33:44,280
Speaker 1: be the tamper, right, I didn't sound right? So uh

566
00:33:44,400 --> 00:33:46,440
Speaker 1: so I just thought, well and I just kind of

567
00:33:46,600 --> 00:33:50,440
Speaker 1: entered with him and I and um and so this

568
00:33:50,480 --> 00:33:52,960
Speaker 1: went on until the beginning of training camp, and I

569
00:33:53,040 --> 00:33:56,760
Speaker 1: knew that it wasn't gonna happen, so I decided to, look,

570
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Speaker 1: I'll just take matters in my own hands. I called

571
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Speaker 1: Ken hare Rock and I said, look, I'm retired, and

572
00:34:01,680 --> 00:34:04,640
Speaker 1: I wasn't the conventional guy. Just did things differently, and like,

573
00:34:04,720 --> 00:34:07,040
Speaker 1: I'm tired of Look the money's great, but look, I

574
00:34:07,200 --> 00:34:09,080
Speaker 1: I just I'm not coming back. Knowing that I was

575
00:34:09,120 --> 00:34:13,400
Speaker 1: just trying to get out of Atlanta. And so about

576
00:34:14,440 --> 00:34:17,680
Speaker 1: forty eight hours later, I get this phone call from

577
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Speaker 1: from Dave Wanstead and uh and Jared, not Jerry but Jimmy.

578
00:34:22,360 --> 00:34:24,040
Speaker 1: Jerry didn't even know my name back then. That's what

579
00:34:24,080 --> 00:34:27,800
Speaker 1: I finally, he didn't know Tony can see as was

580
00:34:27,800 --> 00:34:29,359
Speaker 1: but took a lot of credit for it. But hey,

581
00:34:29,400 --> 00:34:33,560
Speaker 1: that's he got me the hell out of here. And

582
00:34:33,600 --> 00:34:35,480
Speaker 1: he says, we're gonna trade for it, and I said, okay,

583
00:34:35,520 --> 00:34:38,920
Speaker 1: that's and and look when I and the rest is history.

584
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Speaker 1: When I met guys like Nay, and I came because

585
00:34:42,840 --> 00:34:47,239
Speaker 1: it was an environment. Whenever the physicality of playing, going

586
00:34:47,239 --> 00:34:49,399
Speaker 1: through training camp, it was just it was murder man.

587
00:34:49,480 --> 00:34:52,200
Speaker 1: I mean it was tough, but to be able to

588
00:34:52,239 --> 00:34:55,760
Speaker 1: come to Dallas and be around guys like Nay Kevin Gogan,

589
00:34:57,560 --> 00:34:59,680
Speaker 1: that made it fun and real. I mean it was hard,

590
00:35:00,040 --> 00:35:02,480
Speaker 1: don't get it. Don't get me wrong. It was it

591
00:35:02,520 --> 00:35:05,360
Speaker 1: was tough, but it was just a different environment. And

592
00:35:05,440 --> 00:35:08,520
Speaker 1: I think when you're an environment that it's it's positive

593
00:35:08,560 --> 00:35:10,640
Speaker 1: and there's an up and up and there's a there's

594
00:35:10,680 --> 00:35:13,600
Speaker 1: a goal, then you feel better about yourself. And I

595
00:35:14,160 --> 00:35:16,680
Speaker 1: was happy, man. And like I said, the rest is history.

596
00:35:16,719 --> 00:35:19,600
Speaker 1: I never dranted. I'd come here and go the playoffs

597
00:35:19,640 --> 00:35:21,439
Speaker 1: of ninety one and then went back to back Super

598
00:35:21,480 --> 00:35:24,640
Speaker 1: Bowl rings. Yeah, Nate, what do you remember about when

599
00:35:24,719 --> 00:35:27,840
Speaker 1: he came in and working man? And uh, you know,

600
00:35:27,960 --> 00:35:29,840
Speaker 1: I just remember used a crack on me all the

601
00:35:29,880 --> 00:35:31,800
Speaker 1: time in the locker room. That's all I loved about me.

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00:35:32,920 --> 00:35:35,440
Speaker 1: You know what, Tony, I'm gonna tell you how far

603
00:35:35,640 --> 00:35:39,200
Speaker 1: I didn't know. I ain't always of hispanic descent. I

604
00:35:39,280 --> 00:35:43,680
Speaker 1: just thought he was a cool looking white guy, cool

605
00:35:43,680 --> 00:35:48,360
Speaker 1: white guy with the tan. Yeah like wow, man. Yeah,

606
00:35:48,520 --> 00:35:51,399
Speaker 1: so you know, I'm gonna tell you something. And when

607
00:35:51,400 --> 00:35:53,520
Speaker 1: you mentioned Kevin Gold and Marked two in the our

608
00:35:53,640 --> 00:35:58,720
Speaker 1: offensive line was the most pranksters you know, and and

609
00:35:58,719 --> 00:36:00,480
Speaker 1: and you never knew when you walking to the Tide

610
00:36:00,520 --> 00:36:03,359
Speaker 1: locker room just started a training camp. All the way

611
00:36:03,400 --> 00:36:05,880
Speaker 1: through to the to the to the Super Bowls that

612
00:36:05,960 --> 00:36:08,960
Speaker 1: we won. Just somebody was coming at you every day,

613
00:36:09,600 --> 00:36:13,360
Speaker 1: you know, having fun. Then we got Charles Haley. Oh lord,

614
00:36:13,719 --> 00:36:17,399
Speaker 1: all rules, no rules, none whatsoever. And I still got

615
00:36:17,400 --> 00:36:20,279
Speaker 1: to live that to this day. You didn't mention the rules. Yeah,

616
00:36:19,920 --> 00:36:23,120
Speaker 1: we we we witnessed that firsthand last week on the show.

617
00:36:23,200 --> 00:36:28,840
Speaker 1: So I wish Great would have been here. Yeah, great,

618
00:36:28,920 --> 00:36:31,279
Speaker 1: hand I just carried the ball, just took it. Man,

619
00:36:31,520 --> 00:36:34,000
Speaker 1: just handing my business. There's a time and place. She said,

620
00:36:34,000 --> 00:36:36,000
Speaker 1: you just don't know what to say. I got I

621
00:36:36,080 --> 00:36:40,480
Speaker 1: got no comment, I got nothing nothing. What did you say? Yeah?

622
00:36:40,480 --> 00:36:43,400
Speaker 1: Oh damn yeah yeah, And we were I would never

623
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Speaker 1: get away for that. Yeah. We were on live radio.

624
00:36:45,440 --> 00:36:46,759
Speaker 1: So there were a couple of times Nate would just

625
00:36:46,800 --> 00:36:49,440
Speaker 1: look at me, like, what's about to happen? And I

626
00:36:49,480 --> 00:36:51,840
Speaker 1: was like, you know the things the twenty second button

627
00:36:51,880 --> 00:36:57,960
Speaker 1: run here, they won't. That's that's FCC online one for

628
00:36:58,120 --> 00:37:04,600
Speaker 1: Charles's beside. Beside as your kids, man, he got twins.

629
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Speaker 1: Explaining your family, Man, tell tell everybody, man, I want

630
00:37:07,280 --> 00:37:09,880
Speaker 1: to get his them. Man, Well, yeah, you know, I

631
00:37:09,880 --> 00:37:12,480
Speaker 1: think that as you get you go, you get older

632
00:37:12,480 --> 00:37:15,160
Speaker 1: in life, things change and you know your you know

633
00:37:15,280 --> 00:37:18,880
Speaker 1: your your goals and everything, the things that are important

634
00:37:18,880 --> 00:37:21,880
Speaker 1: to you. It becomes more family warranted. And look, I

635
00:37:23,080 --> 00:37:25,120
Speaker 1: I've been married for almost twenty five years and I'll

636
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Speaker 1: be the first one to say that I'm not the

637
00:37:27,360 --> 00:37:29,279
Speaker 1: best person to be. I mean, you know when you're

638
00:37:29,320 --> 00:37:31,839
Speaker 1: married that long. It's a lot of work. Yeah, yeah

639
00:37:31,880 --> 00:37:35,560
Speaker 1: it is, and I'm usually the culprit. But but what

640
00:37:35,600 --> 00:37:38,680
Speaker 1: I what I found out is like having a family

641
00:37:38,760 --> 00:37:41,879
Speaker 1: and being able to watch our kids do their own

642
00:37:41,920 --> 00:37:45,319
Speaker 1: thing and be professionals and go to college and be

643
00:37:45,360 --> 00:37:47,719
Speaker 1: able to find their own self. You know, all the

644
00:37:47,760 --> 00:37:50,040
Speaker 1: stuff we did, you know on the resume and the the

645
00:37:50,160 --> 00:37:52,919
Speaker 1: next great, but now it's just obviously time because that's

646
00:37:52,920 --> 00:37:56,040
Speaker 1: been so long ago. But still it's it's fun to

647
00:37:56,080 --> 00:37:58,760
Speaker 1: watch him. And so you know, my son is getting

648
00:37:58,760 --> 00:38:02,840
Speaker 1: married in November first, twenty seven and engaged to a

649
00:38:02,840 --> 00:38:06,200
Speaker 1: beautiful girl that unfortunately both I went to ut but

650
00:38:06,280 --> 00:38:11,000
Speaker 1: that's okay. University of Texas, I found out, is an

651
00:38:11,040 --> 00:38:16,200
Speaker 1: academic school. Now everybody's at on notice, uh, but we

652
00:38:16,280 --> 00:38:18,279
Speaker 1: have fun with It's interesting when you're in a group

653
00:38:18,760 --> 00:38:22,440
Speaker 1: text message and you start, just as I said, just

654
00:38:22,680 --> 00:38:25,520
Speaker 1: cracking on the person and like Texas got beat by

655
00:38:25,840 --> 00:38:30,640
Speaker 1: was at Arkansas. Yeah, yeah, all of a sudden they

656
00:38:30,800 --> 00:38:34,399
Speaker 1: leave the building, Chase and my son went, Texas left

657
00:38:34,440 --> 00:38:38,600
Speaker 1: the conversation. So back to the family. That's what we

658
00:38:38,680 --> 00:38:42,520
Speaker 1: do with good text message. I got twins daughters at Arkansas.

659
00:38:43,320 --> 00:38:45,560
Speaker 1: She's a junior. I twins and my sons. That owe you.

660
00:38:45,760 --> 00:38:48,920
Speaker 1: He always wanted to be a sooner um. But that's fun, man,

661
00:38:48,960 --> 00:38:51,680
Speaker 1: That's that's the greatest part about that is being old

662
00:38:51,719 --> 00:38:55,160
Speaker 1: to see them move on and do some really great things.

663
00:38:56,040 --> 00:38:58,080
Speaker 1: But you guys played with a pretty good quarterback back

664
00:38:58,120 --> 00:39:00,840
Speaker 1: in the day, if I remember correct, Steve Washing was

665
00:39:00,920 --> 00:39:06,960
Speaker 1: hell and we've got the makings of a of a

666
00:39:07,280 --> 00:39:14,640
Speaker 1: possibly you know. Yeah, that's next baby on that trajectory. Yeah, yeah, exactly, exactly,

667
00:39:15,520 --> 00:39:24,200
Speaker 1: specually respectful game. Okay, yeah, who you're talking about? The

668
00:39:24,280 --> 00:39:30,520
Speaker 1: Carter talking? Yeah, come on, Nate number eight. Oh yeah, yeah,

669
00:39:31,480 --> 00:39:34,200
Speaker 1: Oh my goodness. Anyway, I'm not talking to Mike Golf.

670
00:39:34,239 --> 00:39:38,600
Speaker 1: Turns my golf a second. You're that old. Yeah, I've

671
00:39:38,640 --> 00:39:40,560
Speaker 1: been a copy since I was ten eleven years old.

672
00:39:40,600 --> 00:39:44,160
Speaker 1: I watched Roger because I going to back yard. I

673
00:39:44,280 --> 00:39:46,040
Speaker 1: go in the back yard like I'll rodg you know it,

674
00:39:46,120 --> 00:39:48,880
Speaker 1: anyway in the world I can. You can't conspire Roger

675
00:39:48,920 --> 00:39:52,080
Speaker 1: back then. But anyway, what do you guys? Kevin start

676
00:39:52,160 --> 00:39:55,000
Speaker 1: with you? What have you? How have you seen Dak progress?

677
00:39:55,040 --> 00:39:58,600
Speaker 1: Because I think he's he's been an underdog his whole life.

678
00:39:58,600 --> 00:40:01,240
Speaker 1: He's done nothing but prove everybod wrong his whole life.

679
00:40:01,480 --> 00:40:03,960
Speaker 1: All he's needed is a chance. The way that he

680
00:40:04,040 --> 00:40:07,000
Speaker 1: got the job to begin with is just unbelievable. That

681
00:40:07,120 --> 00:40:09,680
Speaker 1: he even saw a field as a starter, and he's

682
00:40:09,719 --> 00:40:12,480
Speaker 1: done nothing but get better and better and shut everybody up.

683
00:40:12,520 --> 00:40:15,959
Speaker 1: And this year he's picking right up where he left

684
00:40:16,000 --> 00:40:18,839
Speaker 1: off before he got hurt. So what do you where

685
00:40:18,840 --> 00:40:21,040
Speaker 1: do you see his trajectory? Where do you see this

686
00:40:22,239 --> 00:40:24,360
Speaker 1: just this progression? What do you see in Dak? I

687
00:40:24,400 --> 00:40:26,960
Speaker 1: think one of the coolest parts of watching Dak Prescottson's

688
00:40:26,960 --> 00:40:30,040
Speaker 1: coming out of Mississippi State is that he has over

689
00:40:30,080 --> 00:40:32,680
Speaker 1: the year has become the unquestioned leader of this football team.

690
00:40:32,760 --> 00:40:35,800
Speaker 1: They find they lead. He leads by example, they follow

691
00:40:35,880 --> 00:40:38,000
Speaker 1: his lead, but more importantly, he backs it up on

692
00:40:38,040 --> 00:40:40,640
Speaker 1: the football field. So I think this year he has

693
00:40:40,640 --> 00:40:43,920
Speaker 1: a true opportunity to be a top five quarterback in

694
00:40:43,960 --> 00:40:47,200
Speaker 1: this league. You've seen how he's progressed in terms of

695
00:40:47,239 --> 00:40:51,000
Speaker 1: the deep ball, accuracy, the tight window throws, all the

696
00:40:51,040 --> 00:40:53,279
Speaker 1: things that you would want an upper echelon quarterback to do.

697
00:40:53,680 --> 00:40:56,160
Speaker 1: He's doing those things now And I think one of

698
00:40:56,160 --> 00:40:58,480
Speaker 1: the best throws that he had on Sunday, you know,

699
00:40:58,640 --> 00:41:01,319
Speaker 1: the pacity had to Mary Cooper on the final drive,

700
00:41:01,400 --> 00:41:03,839
Speaker 1: fitting it inside of a tight window, leading the two

701
00:41:03,840 --> 00:41:05,279
Speaker 1: minute drive to be able to set him up a

702
00:41:05,320 --> 00:41:08,960
Speaker 1: field goal. That's the personification of one rain to cutter Presscott,

703
00:41:08,960 --> 00:41:11,040
Speaker 1: and I just love watching him play weekend in week out.

704
00:41:11,280 --> 00:41:13,399
Speaker 1: I think Cowboys fans are really seeing a man coming

705
00:41:13,440 --> 00:41:15,080
Speaker 1: to his own. I think he has that chance to

706
00:41:15,120 --> 00:41:17,399
Speaker 1: be a toipe five quarterback in this league. I love

707
00:41:17,440 --> 00:41:21,160
Speaker 1: the guy. I think that he exudes confidence, exudes leadership,

708
00:41:21,200 --> 00:41:25,640
Speaker 1: and not to say that body language is everything, but

709
00:41:25,880 --> 00:41:28,400
Speaker 1: he has this command that you can see and you

710
00:41:28,440 --> 00:41:31,480
Speaker 1: can sense, and I think that when you play the

711
00:41:31,480 --> 00:41:34,040
Speaker 1: game a little intuitive to leadership when it comes to

712
00:41:34,080 --> 00:41:38,319
Speaker 1: the quarterback. Yeah, you mentioned Troy Troy. Troy was an

713
00:41:38,320 --> 00:41:42,000
Speaker 1: amazing leader. He didn't I always say that the way

714
00:41:42,040 --> 00:41:45,920
Speaker 1: that I described him, he was a very constructive. He

715
00:41:46,000 --> 00:41:48,799
Speaker 1: was still in a constructive way. It wasn't like he

716
00:41:48,920 --> 00:41:51,279
Speaker 1: was you know, he didn't want to talk to you

717
00:41:51,360 --> 00:41:53,960
Speaker 1: or anything like that, but he was. He was in

718
00:41:53,960 --> 00:41:57,200
Speaker 1: that game mode and he knew his place and his role,

719
00:41:57,880 --> 00:42:00,759
Speaker 1: and so we understood that. I think that when you

720
00:42:00,800 --> 00:42:04,080
Speaker 1: look at Dak the similarities to a quarterback is look

721
00:42:04,080 --> 00:42:07,120
Speaker 1: if you're gonna make a bath throw right, it's how

722
00:42:07,160 --> 00:42:10,040
Speaker 1: you respond. And this guy, to me is confident. He mean,

723
00:42:10,040 --> 00:42:13,160
Speaker 1: he'll take ownership for it. But I think that he

724
00:42:13,200 --> 00:42:15,520
Speaker 1: answers a lot of questions are lines in early season

725
00:42:15,880 --> 00:42:18,520
Speaker 1: two games, but he's answered a lot of questions of

726
00:42:18,600 --> 00:42:22,320
Speaker 1: why you a validation, why are you paying the big money?

727
00:42:22,520 --> 00:42:25,480
Speaker 1: Why they believe in him because he has all those instincts,

728
00:42:25,719 --> 00:42:28,520
Speaker 1: he has all those those characteristics. And that's what you

729
00:42:28,560 --> 00:42:31,520
Speaker 1: wanted a quarterback. Yeah, you know, this is what I

730
00:42:31,560 --> 00:42:33,440
Speaker 1: had to make myself do something. You have to go

731
00:42:33,480 --> 00:42:36,200
Speaker 1: back and look and you like, you say Trouva's story

732
00:42:36,520 --> 00:42:39,839
Speaker 1: and not in the standoffish back I almost Cattonio. Not

733
00:42:39,920 --> 00:42:43,239
Speaker 1: in the standoffish way. He meant business. And I tell

734
00:42:43,320 --> 00:42:45,160
Speaker 1: this story all the time. I you know, I used to,

735
00:42:45,280 --> 00:42:47,800
Speaker 1: you know, have a lot of fun when I was cowboy.

736
00:42:48,120 --> 00:42:50,839
Speaker 1: So a lot of times I was sleeping. I don't

737
00:42:50,840 --> 00:42:55,799
Speaker 1: believe it. I wouldn't go I wouldn't I wouldn't go

738
00:42:55,880 --> 00:42:59,000
Speaker 1: home some nights because I still isolated. Like three four

739
00:42:59,000 --> 00:43:01,080
Speaker 1: in the morning, I'm like, if I drive way out

740
00:43:01,120 --> 00:43:03,399
Speaker 1: to way out where out of live that I ain't

741
00:43:03,440 --> 00:43:05,799
Speaker 1: gonna make it back. So I was sleeping my car.

742
00:43:06,719 --> 00:43:08,680
Speaker 1: I was gonna sleep in my car, and I would

743
00:43:08,680 --> 00:43:15,200
Speaker 1: see I was I would see Troy and other guys

744
00:43:15,239 --> 00:43:17,759
Speaker 1: come in early in the morning. And I would watch

745
00:43:17,840 --> 00:43:21,120
Speaker 1: Troy a lot of time. He'll be on his phone, talking, laughing,

746
00:43:21,480 --> 00:43:24,160
Speaker 1: having fun. As soon as he hit that front door,

747
00:43:24,560 --> 00:43:29,319
Speaker 1: that player's interest face go to all business man. One

748
00:43:29,360 --> 00:43:30,719
Speaker 1: time I was gonna ask him, but I said, now,

749
00:43:30,760 --> 00:43:32,759
Speaker 1: I don't you know, Troy had two thousand miles stair.

750
00:43:32,800 --> 00:43:34,759
Speaker 1: I didn't want that stare on me, so, you know,

751
00:43:35,040 --> 00:43:38,520
Speaker 1: And that is and I learned then he was a professional.

752
00:43:39,120 --> 00:43:41,360
Speaker 1: He knew when the turning on. He knew because he

753
00:43:41,360 --> 00:43:43,480
Speaker 1: would come to all our parties. I would have big

754
00:43:43,520 --> 00:43:46,959
Speaker 1: birthday parties and Christmas parties. Troy would never missed, none

755
00:43:46,960 --> 00:43:48,840
Speaker 1: of it. Man, and I would just be gonna jumped

756
00:43:48,840 --> 00:43:53,680
Speaker 1: off eight dumped outside eighteen. He's still show up, you know.

757
00:43:53,800 --> 00:43:57,360
Speaker 1: But and that's that. And see, this is what we forget.

758
00:43:57,960 --> 00:44:02,520
Speaker 1: This is what we forget. Dak is no different than

759
00:44:02,560 --> 00:44:06,399
Speaker 1: the rookie we saw. He's no different. When he's had

760
00:44:06,440 --> 00:44:11,160
Speaker 1: the tools around him, he's never failed. Just think about it.

761
00:44:11,320 --> 00:44:13,520
Speaker 1: We keep saying he's this, this, this, this and he's

762
00:44:13,520 --> 00:44:17,240
Speaker 1: getting better. But Dak looking his rookie year, his record

763
00:44:17,320 --> 00:44:20,359
Speaker 1: was what he won eleven twelve games because he had

764
00:44:20,400 --> 00:44:24,120
Speaker 1: the tools around him. Give a great quarterback great tools

765
00:44:24,120 --> 00:44:27,319
Speaker 1: and they'll never failed. All right, let's take our last break.

766
00:44:27,320 --> 00:44:29,600
Speaker 1: When we come back, we're gonna talk more football. There's

767
00:44:29,600 --> 00:44:31,920
Speaker 1: a game Monday night. We haven't even mentioned that. We

768
00:44:31,960 --> 00:44:34,560
Speaker 1: should probably talk a little Cowboys Eagles when we come back.

769
00:44:34,600 --> 00:44:38,640
Speaker 1: We don't matter a Cowboys win. We can just we

770
00:44:38,680 --> 00:44:41,840
Speaker 1: can just end the show now. We might not come back.

771
00:44:42,400 --> 00:44:44,799
Speaker 1: Come back. Tune in to see if we come back.

772
00:44:47,280 --> 00:44:49,880
Speaker 1: If you're listening to Cowboys Crosstalk on the Dallas Cowboys

773
00:44:49,960 --> 00:47:58,560
Speaker 1: Radio Network when it broadcasting live from the Cowboys Club

774
00:47:58,760 --> 00:48:02,799
Speaker 1: at the Star in first Man, I cannot believe we

775
00:48:02,880 --> 00:48:06,040
Speaker 1: only have one more segment of the show. Tony Cassius,

776
00:48:06,160 --> 00:48:08,440
Speaker 1: the guest of honor. It has been so much fun, man,

777
00:48:08,520 --> 00:48:12,279
Speaker 1: time has flown by Nate Newton to your left, six

778
00:48:12,320 --> 00:48:14,400
Speaker 1: time Pro bowler, three times Super Bowl champ. How you

779
00:48:14,480 --> 00:48:20,680
Speaker 1: do it? You hang? Okay, alright? To your left, Kevin Gray, Yes, sir,

780
00:48:20,840 --> 00:48:22,920
Speaker 1: And then I'm Shannon Gross And let me tell you

781
00:48:22,920 --> 00:48:24,719
Speaker 1: guys one quick thing before we get back into some

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785
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Speaker 1: And Nate Brandon Graham's hurt is out for the season,

786
00:48:43,400 --> 00:48:46,520
Speaker 1: but you're one of your favorite defensive players in the

787
00:48:46,600 --> 00:48:49,120
Speaker 1: league right now. Will be paying a visit to the

788
00:48:49,200 --> 00:48:52,560
Speaker 1: Dallas Cowboys and at and T Stadium Monday night. And

789
00:48:52,680 --> 00:48:55,279
Speaker 1: his name is Fletcher Cox. Yes, sir, he's thirty years

790
00:48:55,280 --> 00:48:58,439
Speaker 1: old now, yes, sir, it's still still commander of that boy.

791
00:48:58,560 --> 00:49:01,040
Speaker 1: Does he still have juice in the He still have juice?

792
00:49:01,120 --> 00:49:03,960
Speaker 1: Then he got a sidekick college of Von hal Grave.

793
00:49:04,520 --> 00:49:06,120
Speaker 1: Oh man, he got two sack get in the lot.

794
00:49:06,200 --> 00:49:08,040
Speaker 1: But you know how you got that great player to

795
00:49:08,120 --> 00:49:10,480
Speaker 1: you over there singled up. This hal Grave kid is

796
00:49:10,480 --> 00:49:12,840
Speaker 1: doing some damage. But I'm telling you, old man, but

797
00:49:12,960 --> 00:49:14,520
Speaker 1: we got we got him. Know, we got him in

798
00:49:14,560 --> 00:49:16,320
Speaker 1: the White House. We got him with the President. You

799
00:49:16,360 --> 00:49:18,480
Speaker 1: got it with Jack Bart, Yes, sir, that's who he

800
00:49:18,480 --> 00:49:20,319
Speaker 1: will be over the most of the time so we

801
00:49:20,360 --> 00:49:22,279
Speaker 1: can sing them block. You think we're good, Oh yeah,

802
00:49:22,320 --> 00:49:24,200
Speaker 1: we're good. We should be good. What do you see

803
00:49:24,280 --> 00:49:26,239
Speaker 1: Tony What do you see when you when you see

804
00:49:26,280 --> 00:49:29,160
Speaker 1: Fletcher cos Nate Nate loves the guy. What what kind

805
00:49:29,160 --> 00:49:32,359
Speaker 1: of player. He's kind of unassuming looking, he's this big dude,

806
00:49:32,400 --> 00:49:37,000
Speaker 1: and yeah, but he's very athletic, he's powerful, and he's

807
00:49:37,040 --> 00:49:41,560
Speaker 1: got a he's very he's very uh, you know, he

808
00:49:41,840 --> 00:49:44,080
Speaker 1: can do a lot of different things. Very versatile, it's

809
00:49:44,080 --> 00:49:46,120
Speaker 1: the best word to look for. He can play the

810
00:49:46,200 --> 00:49:48,279
Speaker 1: run and he can play the pass, and I think

811
00:49:48,280 --> 00:49:50,840
Speaker 1: for him that's something that it's hard to find a

812
00:49:50,880 --> 00:49:54,400
Speaker 1: defensive lineman that can rush the passer, especially inside, and

813
00:49:54,520 --> 00:50:00,279
Speaker 1: play the run. But he's just very he's sneaky, kind

814
00:50:00,280 --> 00:50:02,680
Speaker 1: of a sneaky guy. You look up and they say

815
00:50:02,719 --> 00:50:08,080
Speaker 1: that could well not in that in that I guess

816
00:50:08,120 --> 00:50:10,840
Speaker 1: that that text, but I'm here the thing when I

817
00:50:10,880 --> 00:50:12,600
Speaker 1: look at him, it's like when you look at him,

818
00:50:13,080 --> 00:50:15,040
Speaker 1: some of the things he does and maybe it's just

819
00:50:15,040 --> 00:50:18,680
Speaker 1: because if he's the size, yeah, but he's really he

820
00:50:18,719 --> 00:50:21,360
Speaker 1: gets up filled extremely well. He's always up filled, and

821
00:50:21,360 --> 00:50:23,520
Speaker 1: I think for a great defensive lineman, you always want

822
00:50:23,520 --> 00:50:25,440
Speaker 1: to try to, you know, play on that line at

823
00:50:25,480 --> 00:50:29,279
Speaker 1: the side, the line of scrimmage. And again he he

824
00:50:30,239 --> 00:50:32,600
Speaker 1: you gotta count for that guy when you put him

825
00:50:32,600 --> 00:50:34,879
Speaker 1: on one on one and you match him up against

826
00:50:34,920 --> 00:50:37,560
Speaker 1: Zach Martin. Now you're good there. But it's those matchups

827
00:50:37,600 --> 00:50:39,440
Speaker 1: that he's able to do. And it seems like that

828
00:50:39,600 --> 00:50:42,440
Speaker 1: he when I say sneaky, he always sneaks up on

829
00:50:42,520 --> 00:50:44,799
Speaker 1: you and makes that big play whenever they need to

830
00:50:44,840 --> 00:50:47,480
Speaker 1: make the play. And you're like, Okay, that's Fletcher Cocks.

831
00:50:49,200 --> 00:50:54,080
Speaker 1: That shouldn't be sneaky. Yeah, Kevin. After the Chargers game,

832
00:50:54,120 --> 00:50:56,080
Speaker 1: I was like, Oh, they gonna they're gonna kill these folks.

833
00:50:56,080 --> 00:50:58,480
Speaker 1: They're gonna kill the Eagles. They're gonna win by seventeen.

834
00:50:58,680 --> 00:51:03,200
Speaker 1: And there's been some injuries and some folks going into

835
00:51:03,280 --> 00:51:07,239
Speaker 1: COVID protocol this week. I'm a little concerned this week.

836
00:51:07,520 --> 00:51:09,480
Speaker 1: How do you feel about going into this game? What

837
00:51:09,560 --> 00:51:11,840
Speaker 1: are your thoughts on the Eagles? I think the matchup

838
00:51:11,880 --> 00:51:14,080
Speaker 1: that I'm looking most forward to. Obviously you're gonna be

839
00:51:14,160 --> 00:51:17,000
Speaker 1: missing potentially Kean O'Neill, who was put on the COVID

840
00:51:17,040 --> 00:51:20,920
Speaker 1: list as a close contact. Micah Parsons versus Jalen Hurts.

841
00:51:21,000 --> 00:51:23,800
Speaker 1: Jalen Hurts, the leading passer on this team, leading rusher

842
00:51:23,880 --> 00:51:26,920
Speaker 1: on this team, also the speed of Micah Parsons and

843
00:51:27,000 --> 00:51:29,560
Speaker 1: how is he a spy on Monday Night? How did

844
00:51:29,560 --> 00:51:32,279
Speaker 1: they deploy him against a dual threat quarterback who can

845
00:51:32,320 --> 00:51:34,000
Speaker 1: throw a deep ball but can also make it happen

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Speaker 1: in the run game. And the secondary for the Philadelphia Eagles,

847
00:51:37,040 --> 00:51:40,080
Speaker 1: Stephen Nelson Darius Slay going up against Ceede Lamb and

848
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Speaker 1: Amari Cooper, that's gonna be a lot of fun to watch.

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Speaker 1: So those two matchups for me are gonna be what

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Speaker 1: I'm gonna be looking for on Monday Night to see

851
00:51:46,960 --> 00:51:50,440
Speaker 1: how the Cowboys Kelling Moore dan Quinn handled themselves against

852
00:51:50,520 --> 00:51:52,880
Speaker 1: Nick Sirianni in this offense for the Philadelphia Eagles. You

853
00:51:52,920 --> 00:51:55,120
Speaker 1: know the funny thing about it is you did like

854
00:51:55,160 --> 00:51:58,560
Speaker 1: I did. You mention Cooper. It's he If he's ready,

855
00:51:59,040 --> 00:52:02,480
Speaker 1: there's no matchup. But if he's not ready, Oh yeah,

856
00:52:02,520 --> 00:52:04,000
Speaker 1: it's gonna be a match up because it's gonna come

857
00:52:04,000 --> 00:52:07,400
Speaker 1: down to Ceedee Lamb and uh and Wilson and my

858
00:52:07,480 --> 00:52:10,279
Speaker 1: other guy, Big eighty five. It's gonna go around Brown,

859
00:52:10,320 --> 00:52:13,359
Speaker 1: He's gonna come down. Now. Now we become and even

860
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Speaker 1: though Ceedee Lamb is on the version of rising up,

861
00:52:16,200 --> 00:52:20,799
Speaker 1: we become a average while receiving court because everybody kind

862
00:52:20,800 --> 00:52:23,799
Speaker 1: of got those three type of guys. This Cooper guy

863
00:52:23,920 --> 00:52:27,359
Speaker 1: makes everybody go up just a not so yeah. Yeah,

864
00:52:27,480 --> 00:52:29,440
Speaker 1: and I really like Blake Jarving. To me, I think

865
00:52:29,480 --> 00:52:32,920
Speaker 1: that guy this is a game that you can utilize him, Yes, sir,

866
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Speaker 1: because of just the style of defense they play in

867
00:52:36,239 --> 00:52:38,640
Speaker 1: the tight end. You have to be able to you know,

868
00:52:38,719 --> 00:52:42,000
Speaker 1: just kind of do the situational and just it's manageable.

869
00:52:42,160 --> 00:52:45,920
Speaker 1: You know first, you know, second and third down. But uh,

870
00:52:45,960 --> 00:52:49,360
Speaker 1: you know, I Amari Cooper to me, is is underappreciated.

871
00:52:49,800 --> 00:52:53,319
Speaker 1: That guy is nasty when you watch his route running. Yeah,

872
00:52:53,360 --> 00:52:55,399
Speaker 1: he's not one of these raw, raw guys, but when

873
00:52:55,400 --> 00:52:59,280
Speaker 1: he's when you're I guarantee, when you're wherever he's at

874
00:52:59,320 --> 00:53:01,719
Speaker 1: and you got one on one and whatever coverage you're in,

875
00:53:02,239 --> 00:53:04,560
Speaker 1: you're sitting there saying, oh my god, you gotta cal

876
00:53:04,640 --> 00:53:07,839
Speaker 1: for nineteen. Yeah. Feel and he was a baller, man.

877
00:53:07,880 --> 00:53:10,000
Speaker 1: I don't care what people say. I mean, I still

878
00:53:10,040 --> 00:53:12,400
Speaker 1: think he's the best wide receiver on this team without

879
00:53:12,400 --> 00:53:16,920
Speaker 1: a doubt. Yeah, yep, agreed. You're very familiar with Jalen Hurts. Yeah,

880
00:53:16,920 --> 00:53:18,920
Speaker 1: what how do you how do you what have you

881
00:53:18,960 --> 00:53:21,000
Speaker 1: seen him develop, because a lot of people are writing

882
00:53:21,040 --> 00:53:22,560
Speaker 1: him off going into this year and they're like they're

883
00:53:22,560 --> 00:53:25,040
Speaker 1: gonna be and he looks like he's got a little something. Well,

884
00:53:25,080 --> 00:53:27,480
Speaker 1: I know, against Atlanta, I don't I don't know what

885
00:53:27,600 --> 00:53:29,799
Speaker 1: kind of measuring stick that is, because I mean that

886
00:53:29,840 --> 00:53:31,880
Speaker 1: he did, he did, he had a good game and

887
00:53:31,960 --> 00:53:36,600
Speaker 1: they lost last weekend. But you know, Jalen is uh,

888
00:53:36,640 --> 00:53:38,800
Speaker 1: he kind of reminds me a little about a little

889
00:53:39,040 --> 00:53:42,719
Speaker 1: like like Dak. He's a guy that works hard. He's uh,

890
00:53:43,200 --> 00:53:45,839
Speaker 1: you know, he appreciates it, and he's really a guy

891
00:53:45,880 --> 00:53:48,960
Speaker 1: that's really gonna work his butt off to develop that.

892
00:53:49,560 --> 00:53:52,600
Speaker 1: But I just think that what you mentioned as far

893
00:53:52,640 --> 00:53:55,359
Speaker 1: as trying to keep him and utilize him to make

894
00:53:55,440 --> 00:53:58,160
Speaker 1: him one dimensional, it's easier said than done because he's

895
00:53:58,160 --> 00:54:00,360
Speaker 1: gonna take off. But I don't know if it's a

896
00:54:00,480 --> 00:54:03,120
Speaker 1: if it's man demand of its own Coverts, but I

897
00:54:03,160 --> 00:54:06,200
Speaker 1: guarantee it if you if that's the premimeter is really

898
00:54:06,239 --> 00:54:08,319
Speaker 1: something that you have to really defend against someone like

899
00:54:08,400 --> 00:54:12,200
Speaker 1: Jalen Hurts. And as you mentioned, um, Michael Parsons may

900
00:54:12,239 --> 00:54:15,000
Speaker 1: be a guy that may may be a big role

901
00:54:15,040 --> 00:54:17,400
Speaker 1: in stopping that. Take him out of the game. You

902
00:54:18,000 --> 00:54:21,200
Speaker 1: got to. I watched him. I watched him against Atlanta.

903
00:54:21,320 --> 00:54:23,799
Speaker 1: He was nice. Love. I watched him against before tonight.

904
00:54:23,840 --> 00:54:26,439
Speaker 1: He was nice. He wasn't spack time. He was nice.

905
00:54:26,960 --> 00:54:29,600
Speaker 1: And see, a nice kid, a nice guy will always

906
00:54:29,600 --> 00:54:32,680
Speaker 1: get you because you're gonna always unestimate the nice guy,

907
00:54:32,719 --> 00:54:35,960
Speaker 1: the guy that is just getting the job done. He

908
00:54:36,040 --> 00:54:40,440
Speaker 1: got a Smith kid from Bama. They can say what

909
00:54:40,480 --> 00:54:44,200
Speaker 1: they want. They better covering. Yeah, it's a great tandem. Yeah.

910
00:54:44,239 --> 00:54:45,759
Speaker 1: And that's the thing about it. You you want to

911
00:54:45,760 --> 00:54:48,960
Speaker 1: make you want to make Jalen Hurts throw the football? Yeah,

912
00:54:49,000 --> 00:54:51,400
Speaker 1: And I think that when they do all these RPOs

913
00:54:51,440 --> 00:54:53,800
Speaker 1: and they do he's own read and everything. That's different,

914
00:54:53,880 --> 00:54:56,000
Speaker 1: more easier said than done. But you want to put

915
00:54:56,120 --> 00:54:59,480
Speaker 1: him in as a as an offensive quarterback, you know,

916
00:54:59,680 --> 00:55:02,640
Speaker 1: throwing quarterback in their offense. All right, let's go around

917
00:55:02,640 --> 00:55:06,399
Speaker 1: at the table, Kevin. You started the Cowboys need to

918
00:55:06,440 --> 00:55:08,640
Speaker 1: do this to win. And what is your prediction for

919
00:55:08,680 --> 00:55:11,719
Speaker 1: the game. Cowboys need to account for Jalen Hurts at

920
00:55:11,760 --> 00:55:13,480
Speaker 1: both the run game. In the past game, the Cowboys

921
00:55:13,520 --> 00:55:15,480
Speaker 1: went twenty four twenty one at home. I'm Monday Night

922
00:55:15,520 --> 00:55:18,480
Speaker 1: Football twenty four twenty one with all the injuries, what's

923
00:55:18,480 --> 00:55:22,799
Speaker 1: the line. I have no idea. I'm gonna say it's close.

924
00:55:22,920 --> 00:55:25,200
Speaker 1: I'm just gonna get it's close. I'm gonna pick it

925
00:55:25,239 --> 00:55:27,279
Speaker 1: back on that. I think Jalen Hurts as a big key,

926
00:55:27,320 --> 00:55:30,359
Speaker 1: but I think I think offensively, this is a game

927
00:55:30,400 --> 00:55:33,279
Speaker 1: where they we mentioned Fletcher Cox, but I think this

928
00:55:33,360 --> 00:55:36,239
Speaker 1: is a game continuation of the momentum of being over too.

929
00:55:36,280 --> 00:55:39,120
Speaker 1: You're you got home field, you're at home, You're Monday

930
00:55:39,239 --> 00:55:41,360
Speaker 1: night football playing on the national TV. This is a

931
00:55:41,480 --> 00:55:44,120
Speaker 1: time to just really just go out there and continue

932
00:55:44,160 --> 00:55:47,160
Speaker 1: that Keller Moore type of offense where you're you're keeping

933
00:55:47,200 --> 00:55:49,719
Speaker 1: them off out of swords, and I think it's a

934
00:55:49,719 --> 00:55:52,680
Speaker 1: game the Cowboys can win. I'm gonna go. I'm gonna

935
00:55:52,719 --> 00:55:57,279
Speaker 1: go thirty five seventeen. All right, I'm gonna say this

936
00:55:57,360 --> 00:55:59,520
Speaker 1: right here, and it's not being arrogant or anything. I

937
00:55:59,560 --> 00:56:03,640
Speaker 1: think the Pus have to show up and play almost

938
00:56:03,719 --> 00:56:06,440
Speaker 1: penalty free football if they just don't do anything to

939
00:56:06,560 --> 00:56:10,239
Speaker 1: hurt themselves offensive a defensive tomorrow. Penalty wise, they have

940
00:56:10,320 --> 00:56:12,120
Speaker 1: played on a different level of the last two weeks,

941
00:56:12,120 --> 00:56:14,200
Speaker 1: and I think if they stay at that level at

942
00:56:14,280 --> 00:56:18,279
Speaker 1: home with the crowd. Just play penalty free, which is

943
00:56:18,320 --> 00:56:20,360
Speaker 1: hard to do, but get close to that as you

944
00:56:20,400 --> 00:56:23,040
Speaker 1: can and have fun. They'll win the game. This will

945
00:56:23,080 --> 00:56:24,719
Speaker 1: be a win the game by one point, one point.

946
00:56:24,800 --> 00:56:26,640
Speaker 1: This will be one of those games that in previous

947
00:56:26,760 --> 00:56:29,600
Speaker 1: years you can make excuses for the injuries. I think

948
00:56:29,600 --> 00:56:33,320
Speaker 1: it's gonna be fun to see how they performed against

949
00:56:33,360 --> 00:56:35,200
Speaker 1: the team they should beat with all these injuries. In

950
00:56:35,239 --> 00:56:39,920
Speaker 1: the past they would struggle. Let's see how they go out. Yeah, exactly, Yeah, Tony,

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00:56:40,000 --> 00:56:42,160
Speaker 1: It's been awesome, man. Thank you so much. You come

952
00:56:42,200 --> 00:56:44,640
Speaker 1: back to any time. Kevin, Thanks for joining us day,

953
00:56:44,800 --> 00:56:48,359
Speaker 1: thanks for being here, Thank you for tuning in. Thanks.

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