1 00:00:00,640 --> 00:00:03,520 Speaker 1: You are listening to the Dan Patrick Show on Fox 2 00:00:03,520 --> 00:00:06,559 Speaker 1: Sports Radio Hour two on this Thursday, Dan and the 3 00:00:06,640 --> 00:00:09,360 Speaker 1: Dan Nstan Patrick Show come on in stay awhile the 4 00:00:09,440 --> 00:00:13,800 Speaker 1: NFL dealing with a COVID breakout, Chiefs Chargers coming up tonight. 5 00:00:14,120 --> 00:00:16,840 Speaker 1: Urban Meyer has been fired. All of that's happened in 6 00:00:16,840 --> 00:00:19,640 Speaker 1: the last twenty four hours. And then you got Dion Sanders. 7 00:00:19,920 --> 00:00:23,240 Speaker 1: He got the number one recruit in America to go 8 00:00:23,280 --> 00:00:30,480 Speaker 1: to Jackson State, Travis Hunter recruiting early signing day and Dion, 9 00:00:30,920 --> 00:00:34,200 Speaker 1: you know, Dion went to Florida State and he wanted 10 00:00:34,240 --> 00:00:37,159 Speaker 1: the job at Florida State. Way didn't get the job 11 00:00:37,200 --> 00:00:40,519 Speaker 1: at Florida State, took the job at Jackson State. And 12 00:00:40,680 --> 00:00:43,360 Speaker 1: now the people at Florida State are really upset because 13 00:00:43,479 --> 00:00:46,240 Speaker 1: Florida State thought that they were going to get Travis Hunter. 14 00:00:46,600 --> 00:00:50,440 Speaker 1: He's a defensive back wide receiver out of Georgia, but 15 00:00:50,880 --> 00:00:54,600 Speaker 1: Dion got him. And you know, Dion gave us a 16 00:00:54,680 --> 00:00:56,840 Speaker 1: heads up a couple of days ago saying I'm going 17 00:00:56,880 --> 00:01:00,280 Speaker 1: to shock the world. We're gonna shock the world. Here's 18 00:01:00,360 --> 00:01:03,520 Speaker 1: Dion two days ago. Let me tell you guys, this 19 00:01:04,319 --> 00:01:09,600 Speaker 1: signing day is tomorrow. I'm going on record to tell you, guys, 20 00:01:10,920 --> 00:01:14,640 Speaker 1: we're gonna shot the country. I'm telling you right now, 21 00:01:15,000 --> 00:01:18,280 Speaker 1: you've heard it from me. We're gonna shot the country. 22 00:01:18,280 --> 00:01:20,560 Speaker 1: You're gonna you're not gonna wait to this air to 23 00:01:20,600 --> 00:01:22,600 Speaker 1: air this what I'm saying. All right, we'll cut it 24 00:01:22,640 --> 00:01:26,959 Speaker 1: in every new station, out to every new station, I 25 00:01:27,040 --> 00:01:31,600 Speaker 1: promise you. That was courtesy of Barstool Sports. And I wonder, 26 00:01:31,680 --> 00:01:34,000 Speaker 1: and he has a partnership with Barstool, and I wonder 27 00:01:34,360 --> 00:01:37,160 Speaker 1: the impact of name, image and likeness. What can you 28 00:01:37,280 --> 00:01:39,640 Speaker 1: give him, because now you can do it above board. 29 00:01:40,319 --> 00:01:42,120 Speaker 1: You can just say, look, I'm gonna give you a 30 00:01:42,160 --> 00:01:46,000 Speaker 1: million dollars. You find a sponsor. You know, maybe it's 31 00:01:46,040 --> 00:01:49,920 Speaker 1: Barstool that's financing this, but Dion has a partnership there. 32 00:01:50,280 --> 00:01:52,680 Speaker 1: I'm gonna guess that, you know, maybe a documentary is 33 00:01:52,680 --> 00:01:56,360 Speaker 1: gonna come out, maybe in the fall next fall. Got 34 00:01:56,400 --> 00:01:59,280 Speaker 1: a lot of coverage out of this, And I thought 35 00:01:59,400 --> 00:02:03,120 Speaker 1: SMU was going to hire Dion and said I would 36 00:02:03,120 --> 00:02:07,240 Speaker 1: have hired Dion. I know he hasn't coached before, or 37 00:02:07,280 --> 00:02:09,880 Speaker 1: he has very little coaching experience, or he's coached in 38 00:02:09,960 --> 00:02:13,200 Speaker 1: high school. Okay, you know what happens when you're a coach, 39 00:02:13,560 --> 00:02:17,480 Speaker 1: you're a CEO. He may not be able to X 40 00:02:17,520 --> 00:02:22,639 Speaker 1: and O, but he can CEO and that's the difference. 41 00:02:23,240 --> 00:02:27,240 Speaker 1: Dion can hire people who can do that. He's magnetic, 42 00:02:28,160 --> 00:02:33,880 Speaker 1: He's able to bring people together his ego. He's going 43 00:02:34,000 --> 00:02:38,200 Speaker 1: to win. He's not going to be embarrassed. And you 44 00:02:38,240 --> 00:02:42,200 Speaker 1: know he still has an impact on players, kids and 45 00:02:42,240 --> 00:02:46,359 Speaker 1: then their parents. Remember Dion Sanders. I mean these dbs now, 46 00:02:46,680 --> 00:02:51,600 Speaker 1: they still want to be like Dion Sanders coach prime. 47 00:02:52,840 --> 00:02:57,600 Speaker 1: I would have hired him in a second and there, 48 00:02:57,800 --> 00:03:00,320 Speaker 1: and I do think you're gonna have coach. You know, 49 00:03:00,639 --> 00:03:04,800 Speaker 1: schools that are gonna look towards coaches like Dion because 50 00:03:04,800 --> 00:03:08,480 Speaker 1: when you bring them in, there's name recognition and you're 51 00:03:08,520 --> 00:03:12,240 Speaker 1: gonna run a football program. It's not just I mean, 52 00:03:12,280 --> 00:03:14,720 Speaker 1: you gotta win press conferences. You've gotta be able to 53 00:03:14,760 --> 00:03:18,840 Speaker 1: walk into a recruit's home and say to mom, I 54 00:03:18,960 --> 00:03:21,919 Speaker 1: got him, I'm gonna take care of him. And that's 55 00:03:21,960 --> 00:03:27,880 Speaker 1: what happened. That's what happened. He said, I can do that. 56 00:03:28,560 --> 00:03:30,840 Speaker 1: How many people can do that? You can have some 57 00:03:30,919 --> 00:03:35,640 Speaker 1: big time recruiters. Ian Lincoln Riley brought his number one 58 00:03:35,680 --> 00:03:39,080 Speaker 1: recruit with him to USC. He can't walk into the 59 00:03:39,160 --> 00:03:42,920 Speaker 1: same living room as Dion can. When Dion shows up, 60 00:03:44,240 --> 00:03:49,400 Speaker 1: I where's jersey, where's cowboy jersey? Where's Super Bowl rings? 61 00:03:49,600 --> 00:03:54,600 Speaker 1: Where's Hall of Fame jacket? He walks in? Now I 62 00:03:54,680 --> 00:03:58,440 Speaker 1: wonder how long Dion stays at Jackson State, because if 63 00:03:58,480 --> 00:04:03,280 Speaker 1: I'm an athletic director, he got my attention yesterday. Because 64 00:04:03,600 --> 00:04:08,160 Speaker 1: college football is all about recruiting. We just had Jimmy 65 00:04:08,240 --> 00:04:10,800 Speaker 1: Johnson on the last hour and he said, hey, talent 66 00:04:10,800 --> 00:04:15,040 Speaker 1: will give you ten wins. I mean, it's an accident 67 00:04:15,120 --> 00:04:17,600 Speaker 1: if you don't win ten games at you know, some 68 00:04:17,680 --> 00:04:22,880 Speaker 1: of these blue blood programs. It's about recruiting. You know, 69 00:04:23,240 --> 00:04:25,119 Speaker 1: we get this guy, and we keep this guy away 70 00:04:25,160 --> 00:04:28,320 Speaker 1: from you and then maybe you build something here. Now 71 00:04:28,320 --> 00:04:31,160 Speaker 1: it's Jackson State. I don't know how they monetize this. 72 00:04:31,960 --> 00:04:34,800 Speaker 1: I don't know what this player hopes to get there, 73 00:04:35,200 --> 00:04:37,240 Speaker 1: but if he wants to go to the NFL as 74 00:04:37,279 --> 00:04:43,679 Speaker 1: a defensive back, I got Dion Sanders right. So that's 75 00:04:43,680 --> 00:04:46,599 Speaker 1: how I viewed it. And you know, it's one of 76 00:04:46,600 --> 00:04:50,960 Speaker 1: the more impactful signings in recent college football history. And 77 00:04:51,080 --> 00:04:53,000 Speaker 1: I thought it was going to be Arch Manning and 78 00:04:53,120 --> 00:04:55,840 Speaker 1: it may still be coming up in another year. But 79 00:04:56,080 --> 00:05:00,640 Speaker 1: Travis Hunter is different. Cornerback, potential two way player, decommitted 80 00:05:00,640 --> 00:05:05,440 Speaker 1: from Florida State. Made that announcement yesterday, highest ranking recruit 81 00:05:05,720 --> 00:05:10,279 Speaker 1: to sign with a historically black college or university. And 82 00:05:10,360 --> 00:05:12,799 Speaker 1: then you look at the bigger picture and it seems 83 00:05:12,800 --> 00:05:16,080 Speaker 1: to indicate that players ability to market themselves is having 84 00:05:16,080 --> 00:05:20,600 Speaker 1: an impact. You know, with possible deals with Hunter yesterday, 85 00:05:20,800 --> 00:05:23,920 Speaker 1: nothing was confirmed, but it's easy to imagine. I mean, 86 00:05:24,320 --> 00:05:29,480 Speaker 1: what happens if Draft Kings fan duel wants to partnership, 87 00:05:29,800 --> 00:05:33,320 Speaker 1: have a partnership with the university. Can you do that? 88 00:05:33,640 --> 00:05:36,760 Speaker 1: Is it legal? I don't know if there are any rules. 89 00:05:38,040 --> 00:05:43,920 Speaker 1: If barstool is helping finance this, that's gambling money. Does 90 00:05:44,080 --> 00:05:48,000 Speaker 1: college football have a problem with this? No salary caps 91 00:05:48,080 --> 00:05:52,800 Speaker 1: right now, he's not going to see top level competition there, 92 00:05:53,040 --> 00:05:56,279 Speaker 1: but thanks to a new world order in college football, 93 00:05:56,839 --> 00:05:59,680 Speaker 1: he's going to profit as he builds his brand. And 94 00:06:00,080 --> 00:06:02,680 Speaker 1: if you talk to these kids, they all think they're 95 00:06:02,680 --> 00:06:05,440 Speaker 1: a brand. They're told they're a brand in high school, 96 00:06:05,960 --> 00:06:09,320 Speaker 1: they're treated like a brand. Now they just want to 97 00:06:09,320 --> 00:06:11,719 Speaker 1: take it to the next level and be a brand. 98 00:06:12,600 --> 00:06:17,240 Speaker 1: And Dion was able to capitalize on that eight seven 99 00:06:17,320 --> 00:06:19,480 Speaker 1: seven three d P show Email address DP at dan 100 00:06:19,520 --> 00:06:23,159 Speaker 1: Patrick dot com, Twitter handle at DP show. I don't 101 00:06:23,200 --> 00:06:25,400 Speaker 1: know how big of an impact. And we talked about 102 00:06:25,400 --> 00:06:28,320 Speaker 1: this prior to the show, and I was probably in 103 00:06:28,360 --> 00:06:31,720 Speaker 1: the minority. You know, Paulie was big on how important 104 00:06:31,720 --> 00:06:35,120 Speaker 1: this is going to be. It's still Jackson State. Are 105 00:06:35,120 --> 00:06:37,200 Speaker 1: you going to watch a game? Can you find a game? 106 00:06:38,360 --> 00:06:40,479 Speaker 1: It's a dB? Are you going to tune in to 107 00:06:40,520 --> 00:06:42,960 Speaker 1: watch a guy that nobody's going to throw in his direction? 108 00:06:43,520 --> 00:06:46,440 Speaker 1: Maybe when you watch him on offense? Is Dion going 109 00:06:46,480 --> 00:06:49,520 Speaker 1: to be there for let's say three years and then 110 00:06:49,560 --> 00:06:53,000 Speaker 1: this kid's going to go to the NFL? Do other 111 00:06:53,040 --> 00:06:56,560 Speaker 1: schools do this? I think it was Howard University that hired. 112 00:06:57,320 --> 00:07:01,760 Speaker 1: They recruited Thonmaker's brother, and that was supposed to be 113 00:07:01,800 --> 00:07:06,640 Speaker 1: a major coup. Nobody's talked about Howard and Thonmaker's brother 114 00:07:06,839 --> 00:07:11,679 Speaker 1: playing basketball. So you know Hugh Jackson, former Brown's head coach, 115 00:07:12,120 --> 00:07:17,960 Speaker 1: coaching historically black college. You have Eddie George, former Heisman 116 00:07:18,000 --> 00:07:21,720 Speaker 1: Trophy winner. You know there are there's name recognition there, 117 00:07:22,280 --> 00:07:25,360 Speaker 1: but are you going to have this wave of talent 118 00:07:25,520 --> 00:07:29,080 Speaker 1: going to historically black colleges? In the universities. And if so, 119 00:07:29,560 --> 00:07:32,640 Speaker 1: can you parlay that into a TV deal? Can you 120 00:07:32,680 --> 00:07:37,480 Speaker 1: get on the Mothership or Fox? You know Dion is 121 00:07:37,520 --> 00:07:41,240 Speaker 1: going to have groundwork laid. Now, how do you maximize that? 122 00:07:41,520 --> 00:07:44,640 Speaker 1: And is he going to stay there? Because what if 123 00:07:44,640 --> 00:07:48,440 Speaker 1: he's offered a major john, which shouldn't be out of 124 00:07:48,440 --> 00:07:51,840 Speaker 1: the question. What if it's a mid level, what if 125 00:07:51,840 --> 00:07:53,920 Speaker 1: it's an upgrade, what if it's a MAC job, what 126 00:07:53,960 --> 00:07:58,560 Speaker 1: if it's a Big twelve job? Would he take it? 127 00:08:01,080 --> 00:08:06,520 Speaker 1: I would hire him because he's dynamic, and he's got 128 00:08:06,560 --> 00:08:10,800 Speaker 1: the pedigree of I did it, and he's got name recognition, 129 00:08:11,320 --> 00:08:13,720 Speaker 1: and you just bring in the people who can do 130 00:08:13,760 --> 00:08:17,440 Speaker 1: the things that you're not good at. And that's why 131 00:08:17,440 --> 00:08:21,880 Speaker 1: I think Dion. I'm not surprised he's successful Jackson State, 132 00:08:23,080 --> 00:08:25,200 Speaker 1: and I wouldn't be surprised if he was successful at 133 00:08:25,200 --> 00:08:29,560 Speaker 1: the next level, not at all, because he has something 134 00:08:29,600 --> 00:08:36,440 Speaker 1: that very few coaches have. He did it. He walks 135 00:08:36,440 --> 00:08:39,880 Speaker 1: the walk, he talks to talk, and he's magnetic. He 136 00:08:40,000 --> 00:08:42,720 Speaker 1: walks into the living room. Anytime we've been around Dion, 137 00:08:44,200 --> 00:08:48,160 Speaker 1: there's before Dion and then there's after Dion. But when 138 00:08:48,360 --> 00:08:52,000 Speaker 1: he comes on the show, when he walks in. It's 139 00:08:52,120 --> 00:08:56,480 Speaker 1: it's primetime, and you know he's there and he is, 140 00:08:57,120 --> 00:09:01,600 Speaker 1: he's magnetic. Yeah, mcclub different sport, but this formula in 141 00:09:01,720 --> 00:09:04,760 Speaker 1: college basketball has not worked that well. Like I'm a 142 00:09:04,960 --> 00:09:10,560 Speaker 1: Clyde direxort, Chris Mallen, Patrick Ewing, Joan Howard has worked. Yeah, Ewing, 143 00:09:10,600 --> 00:09:12,840 Speaker 1: it's been okay. They had a big win against Syracuse. 144 00:09:13,000 --> 00:09:15,560 Speaker 1: But you're right, Chris maullin didn't work out. Clyde the Glide, 145 00:09:17,520 --> 00:09:20,800 Speaker 1: But Dion, to me, is different. Football is different too, right. 146 00:09:21,080 --> 00:09:23,760 Speaker 1: Deon's got a personality that's different from every one of 147 00:09:23,800 --> 00:09:29,240 Speaker 1: those guys you mentioned, Like he's charismatic, he's a household name. 148 00:09:30,240 --> 00:09:34,360 Speaker 1: You know, you gotta be a little bit older, remember Mully, Ewing, 149 00:09:34,440 --> 00:09:40,840 Speaker 1: Clyde the Glide. Deon is still relevant and and and and, 150 00:09:40,920 --> 00:09:43,760 Speaker 1: as he said in an interview with The Mothership, I 151 00:09:43,880 --> 00:09:46,680 Speaker 1: walk in it's different than anybody else. He walks in 152 00:09:46,720 --> 00:09:49,640 Speaker 1: there and he's right. Now. I don't know what this 153 00:09:49,679 --> 00:09:52,680 Speaker 1: means bigger picture. I'm probably smart, not smart enough to 154 00:09:52,720 --> 00:09:57,400 Speaker 1: understand that. I don't know how long he stays. Can 155 00:09:57,440 --> 00:10:00,320 Speaker 1: you get more recruits like this? And what do you 156 00:10:00,360 --> 00:10:03,160 Speaker 1: do with that? Can you turn it into you know, 157 00:10:03,280 --> 00:10:09,680 Speaker 1: Eddie Robinson was at Grambling probably coach sixty years, but 158 00:10:10,320 --> 00:10:13,199 Speaker 1: he would send players to the NFL. But it wasn't 159 00:10:13,200 --> 00:10:16,440 Speaker 1: like you went, well, I really want to watch Grambling football. 160 00:10:17,200 --> 00:10:21,560 Speaker 1: You would want to see Grambling football players because they 161 00:10:21,600 --> 00:10:23,439 Speaker 1: were going to play in the NFL. But as far 162 00:10:23,480 --> 00:10:27,600 Speaker 1: as the competition, you know, it was uneven Walter Payton 163 00:10:27,640 --> 00:10:30,120 Speaker 1: when he was at Jackson State. I'd only heard of him. 164 00:10:30,160 --> 00:10:33,960 Speaker 1: Now it's different now because there are very few secrets. 165 00:10:34,080 --> 00:10:38,120 Speaker 1: You can't hide anybody. You know, Steve McNair at Alcorn State. 166 00:10:38,200 --> 00:10:42,160 Speaker 1: You know you'd heard about Aaron McNair, but you know 167 00:10:42,360 --> 00:10:46,320 Speaker 1: now it feels like Leonora Ryne. You can get a 168 00:10:46,360 --> 00:10:50,200 Speaker 1: defensive back from there and you'll know about him. You 169 00:10:50,240 --> 00:10:53,520 Speaker 1: know this kid, he'll already be on the radar for 170 00:10:53,640 --> 00:10:56,800 Speaker 1: NFL scouts. But as far as the competition, there the 171 00:10:56,840 --> 00:11:01,040 Speaker 1: tune in factor, how do you monetize this? You know, 172 00:11:01,400 --> 00:11:04,719 Speaker 1: people showing up to watch this, That's what I'd be 173 00:11:04,760 --> 00:11:08,719 Speaker 1: curious about. Yeah, same here. I'm curious if, like now 174 00:11:08,720 --> 00:11:11,600 Speaker 1: the swack can call ESPN or Fox say can we 175 00:11:11,600 --> 00:11:13,760 Speaker 1: get a bigger TV deal? Better TV deal? Maybe like 176 00:11:13,760 --> 00:11:17,400 Speaker 1: a MAC deal where now Swack on Friday nights or 177 00:11:17,440 --> 00:11:19,520 Speaker 1: Wednesday nights or something like that. Now you got a 178 00:11:19,559 --> 00:11:21,240 Speaker 1: hook to get in the door. Deon can get you 179 00:11:21,320 --> 00:11:23,280 Speaker 1: that meeting or get you in the door, or like 180 00:11:23,440 --> 00:11:26,320 Speaker 1: a school that may have never called someone like Randy Moss. 181 00:11:26,360 --> 00:11:28,080 Speaker 1: I don't know if Randy Moss ever wanted to coach, 182 00:11:28,360 --> 00:11:30,439 Speaker 1: but if I was at school in the Swack, I 183 00:11:30,440 --> 00:11:32,120 Speaker 1: would call Randy Moss say, if you want to run 184 00:11:32,160 --> 00:11:34,400 Speaker 1: a program, you want to talk a guy who crosses 185 00:11:34,440 --> 00:11:36,080 Speaker 1: over and parents would like, oh my gosh, he's in 186 00:11:36,120 --> 00:11:37,920 Speaker 1: our living room. That may not have been a thing 187 00:11:37,960 --> 00:11:41,840 Speaker 1: two years ago, but now people like to imitate. Yeah, 188 00:11:42,120 --> 00:11:47,160 Speaker 1: well there's only one Dion. Yeah. I mean, Randy's got swag, 189 00:11:47,240 --> 00:11:50,800 Speaker 1: but he's he doesn't have what Dion has. Yeah, mclo 190 00:11:50,960 --> 00:11:53,200 Speaker 1: I signed an interview with Travis Hunter from before this 191 00:11:53,280 --> 00:11:55,040 Speaker 1: all happened, and he said he wanted to go to 192 00:11:55,040 --> 00:11:58,280 Speaker 1: Florida State just because of Dion. That was the main reason. Yeah, 193 00:11:58,320 --> 00:12:01,440 Speaker 1: and a lot of young players still emulate him. Oh 194 00:12:01,600 --> 00:12:05,520 Speaker 1: you watch somebody, but they pick six, they go Pranson 195 00:12:05,559 --> 00:12:08,440 Speaker 1: down the sidelines like Deon Sanders. It's been a long 196 00:12:08,440 --> 00:12:11,520 Speaker 1: time since Deon played football all right. A couple of 197 00:12:11,520 --> 00:12:15,240 Speaker 1: phone calls in here Andrew and Washington leads us at 198 00:12:15,280 --> 00:12:19,960 Speaker 1: this hour. Hi Andrew A right, Dan five seven, still improving, 199 00:12:20,000 --> 00:12:25,400 Speaker 1: one sixty five, Thank you great sound. Hey, I just 200 00:12:25,480 --> 00:12:27,800 Speaker 1: had a little urban Meyer thing. You know, you've brought 201 00:12:27,840 --> 00:12:30,120 Speaker 1: it up a lot where he just had complete control 202 00:12:30,200 --> 00:12:33,280 Speaker 1: at Ohio State and I forgot. I mean I think 203 00:12:33,280 --> 00:12:36,679 Speaker 1: he forgot about coaching. So you look at coaches versus controllers. 204 00:12:36,720 --> 00:12:41,160 Speaker 1: You know, coaches need a lead teach, developed have compassion, 205 00:12:41,200 --> 00:12:43,120 Speaker 1: which I didn't hear of any of those things happening 206 00:12:43,640 --> 00:12:47,400 Speaker 1: in Jacksonville. You know, you do have to be a CEO, which, 207 00:12:47,720 --> 00:12:51,000 Speaker 1: but that control that you have of your team needs 208 00:12:51,000 --> 00:12:54,760 Speaker 1: to help the players, not hinder the players, and his 209 00:12:54,800 --> 00:12:57,760 Speaker 1: control seems like it hindered in his teaching style did 210 00:12:57,800 --> 00:13:01,280 Speaker 1: not go over well. He didn't changed like Tom Coughlin. 211 00:13:01,320 --> 00:13:03,760 Speaker 1: Did you know. That's a good analogy. Where Tom Coughlin 212 00:13:03,920 --> 00:13:06,720 Speaker 1: was a hard nosed coach. He kind of changed his view, 213 00:13:06,920 --> 00:13:09,600 Speaker 1: had a lot of success, created his players different. They 214 00:13:09,679 --> 00:13:13,160 Speaker 1: got two super Bowls out of it. So with all 215 00:13:13,160 --> 00:13:15,240 Speaker 1: that said, all weighing on the poll question, I still 216 00:13:15,240 --> 00:13:17,640 Speaker 1: think urban Meyer will land on his feet sooner than 217 00:13:17,720 --> 00:13:20,559 Speaker 1: John Bruten And the reason being is he's already been 218 00:13:20,559 --> 00:13:24,040 Speaker 1: through this. I mean he's had you know, Florida behind him, 219 00:13:24,040 --> 00:13:26,920 Speaker 1: he's had Ohio State stuff behind him, and he's always 220 00:13:26,960 --> 00:13:30,360 Speaker 1: been able to maneuver himself into a position to get 221 00:13:30,360 --> 00:13:32,520 Speaker 1: a better job. So I think in a few years 222 00:13:32,559 --> 00:13:35,400 Speaker 1: he'll beat back at a coaching job, probably in college. 223 00:13:35,440 --> 00:13:38,080 Speaker 1: I'm guessing. Yeah, well I could see that happening. Thanks 224 00:13:38,080 --> 00:13:40,520 Speaker 1: for the phone called Zack and California Hijack. What's on 225 00:13:40,520 --> 00:13:44,839 Speaker 1: your mind today? What's going on? Van and the dan 226 00:13:45,000 --> 00:13:52,880 Speaker 1: Nets six to five whopping two seventy five? Wanted to 227 00:13:52,880 --> 00:13:56,719 Speaker 1: touch in on that Urban Myers subject. You know, you 228 00:13:56,880 --> 00:14:00,280 Speaker 1: just I've coached for eight years at the varsity level 229 00:14:00,280 --> 00:14:02,120 Speaker 1: in high school, and I know it's nowhere near the 230 00:14:02,160 --> 00:14:05,079 Speaker 1: same thing, But I do have friends that play professional sports, 231 00:14:05,160 --> 00:14:08,640 Speaker 1: and you just can't talk to him like that in 232 00:14:08,679 --> 00:14:11,679 Speaker 1: this kind of business. And I just don't think you 233 00:14:11,679 --> 00:14:14,839 Speaker 1: should be pointing fingers at others, and as the leader 234 00:14:14,880 --> 00:14:18,040 Speaker 1: on the team, you should be you know, taking responsibility 235 00:14:18,040 --> 00:14:21,200 Speaker 1: and accountability and all that stuff and not putting others down. 236 00:14:21,480 --> 00:14:24,000 Speaker 1: You're better off the doing the ted Lasso dance instead 237 00:14:24,040 --> 00:14:26,280 Speaker 1: of you know what, he's been doing. You know, that's 238 00:14:26,280 --> 00:14:28,280 Speaker 1: all I got to say. You've always have a great 239 00:14:28,280 --> 00:14:31,400 Speaker 1: rest of your day and go rams. Maybe let's go 240 00:14:31,760 --> 00:14:34,880 Speaker 1: thank you, Zach. Yeah, you come in and this is 241 00:14:34,880 --> 00:14:36,960 Speaker 1: how you coach, and this is how you're successful, and 242 00:14:37,000 --> 00:14:39,280 Speaker 1: then you think that you can still do that when 243 00:14:39,280 --> 00:14:43,920 Speaker 1: you get to the NFL. You know, we ask players 244 00:14:43,960 --> 00:14:48,640 Speaker 1: to change, like we should be asking coaches to change too. 245 00:14:49,680 --> 00:14:52,920 Speaker 1: And it always amazes me when a coach will yell 246 00:14:53,000 --> 00:14:55,880 Speaker 1: at you and he wants you to have discipline, but 247 00:14:55,960 --> 00:14:59,560 Speaker 1: he's undisciplined while he yells at you for making sure 248 00:14:59,600 --> 00:15:02,520 Speaker 1: that you or disciplined, throwing you know, his headset down. 249 00:15:02,760 --> 00:15:04,760 Speaker 1: Bob Knight would do this all the time. He yelled 250 00:15:04,760 --> 00:15:08,640 Speaker 1: at his players, you know, show composure and be disciplined 251 00:15:08,640 --> 00:15:11,920 Speaker 1: and do all the things I say, while he's undisciplined 252 00:15:11,960 --> 00:15:14,440 Speaker 1: in doing what he's doing, saying what he's saying. Yeah. See, 253 00:15:14,640 --> 00:15:16,560 Speaker 1: I can't tell you the amount of times I've seen 254 00:15:16,800 --> 00:15:19,360 Speaker 1: either like say one of my son's coaches or a 255 00:15:19,400 --> 00:15:21,600 Speaker 1: coach on the other sideline that like a soccer game, 256 00:15:21,880 --> 00:15:28,480 Speaker 1: going screaming calm down, relax, and you're like, dude, you're 257 00:15:28,560 --> 00:15:31,440 Speaker 1: screaming at them. Like that. There's nothing calm about what 258 00:15:31,480 --> 00:15:36,680 Speaker 1: you're doing. Calm down. Who should Jacksonville higher. 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Be sure 279 00:16:42,920 --> 00:16:45,520 Speaker 1: to catch us live every weekday morning nine until noon 280 00:16:45,600 --> 00:16:48,680 Speaker 1: eastern six to nine Pacific on Fox Sports Radio, and 281 00:16:48,760 --> 00:16:52,200 Speaker 1: you can find us on the iHeartRadio app at FSR 282 00:16:52,560 --> 00:16:55,480 Speaker 1: or stream us live on the Peacock app. He joins 283 00:16:55,560 --> 00:16:58,560 Speaker 1: us on the program, Albert, thanks for joining us. Why 284 00:16:58,760 --> 00:17:01,920 Speaker 1: was Urban fired us to night? I think it just 285 00:17:02,000 --> 00:17:04,000 Speaker 1: reached the point of no return, Dan, I mean, like 286 00:17:04,080 --> 00:17:07,320 Speaker 1: the bottom line is, uh, you know, after everything that 287 00:17:07,320 --> 00:17:09,719 Speaker 1: had happened over the course of the last you know, 288 00:17:09,840 --> 00:17:13,359 Speaker 1: two months, going back to October. Um. You know, I 289 00:17:13,400 --> 00:17:16,400 Speaker 1: think the question Shotkahn had to ask himself was our 290 00:17:16,440 --> 00:17:19,640 Speaker 1: people in this building still responding to Urban Meyer? Um? 291 00:17:19,920 --> 00:17:23,640 Speaker 1: And you know, sometimes perception can become reality and um, 292 00:17:23,840 --> 00:17:26,600 Speaker 1: you know, I I think when the you know report 293 00:17:26,640 --> 00:17:29,119 Speaker 1: from NFL dot Com. You know, Tom pelliserah did a 294 00:17:29,119 --> 00:17:31,600 Speaker 1: great job with that last week. You know, when that 295 00:17:31,720 --> 00:17:34,320 Speaker 1: surfaces and you know, then you have um, you know, 296 00:17:34,359 --> 00:17:36,520 Speaker 1: the former kicker Josh Lambo coming out and saying what 297 00:17:36,560 --> 00:17:40,280 Speaker 1: he had said to Rick stroud Um yesterday. You know, 298 00:17:40,320 --> 00:17:42,800 Speaker 1: the green lights on for everybody who has an issue, 299 00:17:42,840 --> 00:17:44,480 Speaker 1: everybody who has nax to grind to come out and 300 00:17:44,480 --> 00:17:47,000 Speaker 1: say something about it. And at that point, you know, 301 00:17:47,040 --> 00:17:50,840 Speaker 1: the question becomes, is this the right environment for our 302 00:17:50,880 --> 00:17:53,920 Speaker 1: young players to be in over the next month? And 303 00:17:54,080 --> 00:17:56,639 Speaker 1: clearly you know the answer to that question for shodkn 304 00:17:56,720 --> 00:17:59,400 Speaker 1: was no. The situation was untenable going forward, and that's 305 00:17:59,400 --> 00:18:01,600 Speaker 1: why he had to make this move. What do you 306 00:18:01,600 --> 00:18:04,720 Speaker 1: think is going to happen with that contract? It's a 307 00:18:04,760 --> 00:18:07,240 Speaker 1: great question because I don't know, Like, I don't know 308 00:18:07,240 --> 00:18:09,560 Speaker 1: that you can fire him for cause for the Lamdbow thing, 309 00:18:09,640 --> 00:18:12,600 Speaker 1: because I mean, like logistically, and I'm not a lawyer, 310 00:18:12,680 --> 00:18:15,399 Speaker 1: but like, logistically I look at it, and it happened 311 00:18:15,440 --> 00:18:19,040 Speaker 1: in August. And if it happened in August and Shad 312 00:18:19,119 --> 00:18:21,639 Speaker 1: Khan knew about it and decided to go forward with 313 00:18:21,720 --> 00:18:24,800 Speaker 1: him and let him coach out three quarters of an 314 00:18:24,880 --> 00:18:28,960 Speaker 1: NFL season, then in his mind, did it really like 315 00:18:29,200 --> 00:18:32,080 Speaker 1: rise to the level of a fire for a cause 316 00:18:32,200 --> 00:18:36,080 Speaker 1: sort of offense? Logic would tell you know, Um, so, 317 00:18:36,520 --> 00:18:38,920 Speaker 1: I mean my guess is behind the scenes, some sort 318 00:18:38,920 --> 00:18:41,720 Speaker 1: of settlement has worked out and that maybe we never 319 00:18:41,800 --> 00:18:44,880 Speaker 1: hear about that. But um, you know, I don't know 320 00:18:45,040 --> 00:18:47,119 Speaker 1: that they can really fire him for cause based on 321 00:18:47,200 --> 00:18:49,639 Speaker 1: what we've seen to this point, um and based on 322 00:18:49,680 --> 00:18:51,840 Speaker 1: what we know to this point. As unhealthy as that 323 00:18:51,880 --> 00:18:54,120 Speaker 1: building was, I mean, the one thing that I think 324 00:18:54,200 --> 00:18:57,560 Speaker 1: would maybe potentially rise to that level was something that 325 00:18:57,560 --> 00:19:00,119 Speaker 1: that that that that happened in August and that were 326 00:19:00,119 --> 00:19:03,199 Speaker 1: into all accounts the owner knew about right after it happened. 327 00:19:04,080 --> 00:19:07,520 Speaker 1: Who's more likely to get another job first, Urban or 328 00:19:07,600 --> 00:19:10,680 Speaker 1: John Gruden? I don't think either were working in the 329 00:19:10,760 --> 00:19:15,119 Speaker 1: NFL again. I mean, I'll just be honestly, well, Urban can't, 330 00:19:15,119 --> 00:19:21,080 Speaker 1: but college, yeah, And I just like so I talked 331 00:19:21,119 --> 00:19:24,040 Speaker 1: to Urban about this in a summer Dan and I 332 00:19:24,080 --> 00:19:28,080 Speaker 1: didn't sense a great desire to go back to college. 333 00:19:28,160 --> 00:19:30,680 Speaker 1: And I think the main reason why is because I 334 00:19:30,720 --> 00:19:33,320 Speaker 1: think recruiting had worn him out. I think the twenty 335 00:19:33,359 --> 00:19:35,520 Speaker 1: four seven nature of it, you know, has sort of 336 00:19:35,560 --> 00:19:37,560 Speaker 1: become an issue for him as he had gotten older. 337 00:19:37,920 --> 00:19:40,000 Speaker 1: And I think any coach that's moved from college the 338 00:19:40,119 --> 00:19:42,119 Speaker 1: NFL would tell you, you you know, one of the biggest 339 00:19:42,119 --> 00:19:45,000 Speaker 1: benefits is getting away from basically having to Live Your 340 00:19:45,040 --> 00:19:47,119 Speaker 1: Life twenty four seventh for a phone at the whims 341 00:19:47,119 --> 00:19:51,200 Speaker 1: of sixteen and seventeen year olds, because recruiting controls who 342 00:19:51,200 --> 00:19:53,720 Speaker 1: wins and loses at that level, you know, And so 343 00:19:54,800 --> 00:19:57,040 Speaker 1: I don't know that he would want to dive into 344 00:19:57,080 --> 00:19:59,080 Speaker 1: the world of recruiting, not to mention what it's become 345 00:19:59,160 --> 00:20:02,760 Speaker 1: since he left with Nil with the transfer portal and 346 00:20:02,800 --> 00:20:06,680 Speaker 1: everything else, and so you know, maybe like that's just 347 00:20:06,880 --> 00:20:10,120 Speaker 1: you know, his obsession with competition pushes him back into it. 348 00:20:10,480 --> 00:20:12,120 Speaker 1: But I think if he asked him right now, he'd 349 00:20:12,119 --> 00:20:15,000 Speaker 1: probably tell you he's probably coached his last game. Yeah, 350 00:20:15,080 --> 00:20:17,120 Speaker 1: I just don't see it. You know. These guys are 351 00:20:17,160 --> 00:20:21,080 Speaker 1: so ego maniacal, and yeah, I mean he's only fifty seven. 352 00:20:21,240 --> 00:20:24,520 Speaker 1: He might appear to be an unhealthy fifty seven, but 353 00:20:24,640 --> 00:20:28,360 Speaker 1: it's still only fifty seven. And I don't know. These 354 00:20:28,400 --> 00:20:30,720 Speaker 1: guys all think they can fix something. I mean, the 355 00:20:30,840 --> 00:20:33,520 Speaker 1: question the other question, though, Dan is right, like who's 356 00:20:33,520 --> 00:20:36,280 Speaker 1: going to hire him at this point? Like like and 357 00:20:36,400 --> 00:20:38,399 Speaker 1: look like we've seen cases where guys have gotten back 358 00:20:38,480 --> 00:20:41,280 Speaker 1: up on their like Q Freeze got back on his feet, right, 359 00:20:41,359 --> 00:20:43,720 Speaker 1: Bobby Petrino got back on his feet. So we've seen 360 00:20:43,760 --> 00:20:46,959 Speaker 1: examples of it. But does Urban want to take a 361 00:20:47,000 --> 00:20:50,480 Speaker 1: step back? Because I don't know, Like would USC hire 362 00:20:50,560 --> 00:20:52,600 Speaker 1: him right now? You know what I mean? Would Texas 363 00:20:52,640 --> 00:20:55,560 Speaker 1: hire him right now? So him going back to college coaching, 364 00:20:56,000 --> 00:20:58,280 Speaker 1: like what level would that require him going in on? 365 00:20:58,560 --> 00:21:00,960 Speaker 1: You know? And does he want to do that? Like 366 00:21:01,040 --> 00:21:03,520 Speaker 1: if he doesn't have the stage of an Ohio State 367 00:21:03,600 --> 00:21:05,919 Speaker 1: or of Florida, does he want to go back and 368 00:21:05,960 --> 00:21:08,200 Speaker 1: coach it? And I don't know. I'll throw a name 369 00:21:08,200 --> 00:21:11,600 Speaker 1: out there like an Iowa State, you know what I mean? 370 00:21:11,880 --> 00:21:14,400 Speaker 1: Or an Oregon State, Like does he want to do that? 371 00:21:14,480 --> 00:21:16,879 Speaker 1: I don't know. It's hard for me to see because 372 00:21:16,960 --> 00:21:19,160 Speaker 1: you know, I recruiting was an issue for him when 373 00:21:19,160 --> 00:21:21,640 Speaker 1: he was in Ohio State. Boy, let me tell you, 374 00:21:21,960 --> 00:21:24,320 Speaker 1: it's not going to be easier if you're going to 375 00:21:24,400 --> 00:21:27,640 Speaker 1: one of those like tier two power five jobs, much 376 00:21:27,720 --> 00:21:29,920 Speaker 1: less some sort of mid major. And I could see 377 00:21:29,960 --> 00:21:34,320 Speaker 1: a scenario where Ryan Day eventually goes to the NFL. Yeah, 378 00:21:34,400 --> 00:21:38,359 Speaker 1: Luke Fickle takes over at Ohio State. You know, because 379 00:21:38,359 --> 00:21:40,480 Speaker 1: I've already had a couple of people say, could you 380 00:21:40,520 --> 00:21:43,040 Speaker 1: see Urban if Ryan Day left going back to Ohio 381 00:21:43,119 --> 00:21:45,879 Speaker 1: State and I go I don't see that. I would 382 00:21:45,880 --> 00:21:48,040 Speaker 1: think that they would look at Luke Fickle before they 383 00:21:48,040 --> 00:21:50,480 Speaker 1: wouldn't or Matt Campbell. I mean, like, I like, there 384 00:21:50,520 --> 00:21:52,359 Speaker 1: are people who would line up. There are young people 385 00:21:52,400 --> 00:21:54,400 Speaker 1: who I think would line up for that job. Luke 386 00:21:54,400 --> 00:21:57,000 Speaker 1: Fickle certainly has a respect of a lot of people 387 00:21:57,880 --> 00:21:59,680 Speaker 1: in that place, and you know, I think he would 388 00:21:59,680 --> 00:22:02,200 Speaker 1: be a handed it. And Matt Campbell, I can tell 389 00:22:02,240 --> 00:22:03,600 Speaker 1: you for a fact. And I don't know if this 390 00:22:03,680 --> 00:22:07,000 Speaker 1: is even out there, but in twenty nineteen, twenty eighteen, 391 00:22:07,000 --> 00:22:10,000 Speaker 1: twenty nineteen, before they turned to Ryan Day, they took 392 00:22:10,040 --> 00:22:12,800 Speaker 1: a very very hard look at bringing Matt Campbell over 393 00:22:12,840 --> 00:22:16,200 Speaker 1: from Iowa State before deciding to go with Ryan Day. 394 00:22:16,320 --> 00:22:18,639 Speaker 1: So there are a couple of guys in Fickel and 395 00:22:18,680 --> 00:22:21,600 Speaker 1: Campbell who are from Ohio where that would qualify as 396 00:22:21,600 --> 00:22:24,240 Speaker 1: their dream job that I think that that Ohio State 397 00:22:24,240 --> 00:22:27,200 Speaker 1: would probably go to before they go back to Urban. Now, 398 00:22:27,200 --> 00:22:31,720 Speaker 1: that said, he wasn't administrator at Ohio State, right, and 399 00:22:31,880 --> 00:22:34,080 Speaker 1: you know he's obviously still close with Ryan Day. So 400 00:22:34,200 --> 00:22:37,359 Speaker 1: does the possibility exist that maybe he goes back in 401 00:22:37,440 --> 00:22:40,400 Speaker 1: some sort of administrative role to Ohio State and helps 402 00:22:40,440 --> 00:22:43,160 Speaker 1: Ryan Day out. I think that's possible. How at tracked 403 00:22:43,160 --> 00:22:48,119 Speaker 1: to vice the Jacksonville john You know, I think it 404 00:22:48,160 --> 00:22:50,119 Speaker 1: was way more attractive a year ago because a year 405 00:22:50,160 --> 00:22:53,280 Speaker 1: ago you had you knew you were getting Trevor Lawrence. 406 00:22:53,280 --> 00:22:55,800 Speaker 1: So in either case, twenty twenty one, twenty twenty two, 407 00:22:55,800 --> 00:22:59,320 Speaker 1: you're getting Trevor Lawrence. Last year you had a blank slate, 408 00:22:59,440 --> 00:23:01,760 Speaker 1: you had all the cap space, you had all the 409 00:23:01,840 --> 00:23:04,600 Speaker 1: draft picks, and you don't have all of that this 410 00:23:04,720 --> 00:23:08,160 Speaker 1: time around. Now, Like the draft picks are on the roster, 411 00:23:08,280 --> 00:23:09,919 Speaker 1: but you don't get to make those picks yourself. Some 412 00:23:10,000 --> 00:23:11,520 Speaker 1: of the cap money's spent, so you don't get to 413 00:23:11,520 --> 00:23:16,439 Speaker 1: spend that yourself, you know. So, and there are those drawbacks. 414 00:23:16,960 --> 00:23:19,640 Speaker 1: I don't think the location is the most most most 415 00:23:19,640 --> 00:23:23,240 Speaker 1: attractive to a lot of coaches going and living in Jacksonville, 416 00:23:23,240 --> 00:23:26,600 Speaker 1: Florida have to attract players to Jacksonville, Florida. That's not 417 00:23:26,640 --> 00:23:29,480 Speaker 1: the most attractive. So that's not the best situation in 418 00:23:29,520 --> 00:23:32,679 Speaker 1: the league. And then you know, I mean the owner 419 00:23:32,720 --> 00:23:34,560 Speaker 1: hasn't shown that he can win. I mean, let's call 420 00:23:34,600 --> 00:23:36,480 Speaker 1: it what is. And I think we all like Sean Khan, 421 00:23:37,000 --> 00:23:40,840 Speaker 1: is he more successful than Jimmy Haslam? Right, now as 422 00:23:40,840 --> 00:23:43,720 Speaker 1: an owner nor like like where would he rank like 423 00:23:43,760 --> 00:23:45,400 Speaker 1: based on what he's done in ten years? Where would 424 00:23:45,400 --> 00:23:47,720 Speaker 1: he rank like near the bottom? Right? So look, I 425 00:23:47,760 --> 00:23:50,240 Speaker 1: think you have to add all those things together. That said, 426 00:23:50,840 --> 00:23:53,600 Speaker 1: there's still a chance to work with Trevor Lawrence right, Like, 427 00:23:53,840 --> 00:23:56,560 Speaker 1: there's still a young roster with pomp promising young pieces 428 00:23:56,600 --> 00:23:58,920 Speaker 1: on it. Travis atm we'll see what he becomes. You 429 00:23:59,000 --> 00:24:01,080 Speaker 1: got Josh Allen on the defensive side of the ball. 430 00:24:01,720 --> 00:24:04,520 Speaker 1: You got some veteran pieces like Miles jack So like, 431 00:24:04,680 --> 00:24:06,560 Speaker 1: there's something to work with there. And I think because 432 00:24:06,560 --> 00:24:09,080 Speaker 1: of the quarterbacks attractive, but I don't think it's Quay 433 00:24:09,119 --> 00:24:12,359 Speaker 1: as attractive as it was a year ago. I was 434 00:24:12,440 --> 00:24:18,800 Speaker 1: wondering Byron Leftwitch, yeah, Bucks offensive coordinator. I mean, imagine 435 00:24:18,840 --> 00:24:23,720 Speaker 1: if Tom Brady today had a press conference and just said, 436 00:24:23,840 --> 00:24:26,120 Speaker 1: you know, hey, I don't know what jackson gonna do. 437 00:24:26,520 --> 00:24:30,480 Speaker 1: Jacksonville is going to do, but you know, I would 438 00:24:30,520 --> 00:24:32,480 Speaker 1: hate to lose Byron Leftwitch, but he's going to be 439 00:24:32,480 --> 00:24:34,280 Speaker 1: a head coach one like, I don't know, maybe if 440 00:24:34,280 --> 00:24:38,160 Speaker 1: you jump start that talk, if Eric b Enemy would 441 00:24:38,200 --> 00:24:40,680 Speaker 1: get a chance here, Brian Dable, who's done a great 442 00:24:40,720 --> 00:24:42,359 Speaker 1: job with John, Like, you got to get somebody who's 443 00:24:42,400 --> 00:24:44,800 Speaker 1: going to develop Trevor Lawrence and that's I mean, that's 444 00:24:44,800 --> 00:24:46,680 Speaker 1: the main thing, right, Like, I think you're sort of 445 00:24:46,680 --> 00:24:50,360 Speaker 1: in the same situation as the Rams were in twenty sixteen, 446 00:24:50,520 --> 00:24:54,480 Speaker 1: and that was a dysfunctional mess on the level of this, 447 00:24:54,840 --> 00:24:57,560 Speaker 1: Like the Rams were, like after their first year in 448 00:24:57,600 --> 00:25:00,119 Speaker 1: Los Angeles, coaching didn't get along with the front office. 449 00:25:00,200 --> 00:25:02,159 Speaker 1: Fisher gets fired with a month left in the season. 450 00:25:02,480 --> 00:25:05,080 Speaker 1: Jared Goff looked god awful and you remember this Dan 451 00:25:05,160 --> 00:25:08,280 Speaker 1: in year one, right, And so everything for them was like, 452 00:25:08,400 --> 00:25:10,879 Speaker 1: how do we get things right in general? But like, 453 00:25:10,920 --> 00:25:12,840 Speaker 1: how do we create the right environment for our young 454 00:25:12,920 --> 00:25:16,159 Speaker 1: quarterback that we drafted first overall? And what do they do? Well? 455 00:25:16,160 --> 00:25:17,920 Speaker 1: A lot of people said you need an experienced guy 456 00:25:17,960 --> 00:25:20,800 Speaker 1: to come in and clean this up. They went in 457 00:25:20,840 --> 00:25:23,760 Speaker 1: the opposite direction. They went completely in the other direction 458 00:25:24,080 --> 00:25:26,119 Speaker 1: and maybe picked a guy that you know, it was 459 00:25:26,160 --> 00:25:28,280 Speaker 1: a year or two early, you know, at least on paper, 460 00:25:28,560 --> 00:25:30,439 Speaker 1: and it winds up being like as big a home 461 00:25:30,520 --> 00:25:31,920 Speaker 1: run of a hire as we've seen in the last 462 00:25:31,960 --> 00:25:34,199 Speaker 1: ten years in Sean mcfay so, Like, I think the 463 00:25:34,240 --> 00:25:36,800 Speaker 1: idea of bringing a young guy who can energize your building, 464 00:25:36,960 --> 00:25:40,040 Speaker 1: and who can revitalize your young quarterback is good Byron 465 00:25:40,119 --> 00:25:42,520 Speaker 1: left which is a good name. You mentioned Brian dave All, 466 00:25:42,520 --> 00:25:45,600 Speaker 1: that's another good name. I'd throw Kellen Moore, the Cowboys 467 00:25:45,600 --> 00:25:48,720 Speaker 1: offensive coordinator who's helped bring Dak Prescott along. He's a 468 00:25:48,760 --> 00:25:51,280 Speaker 1: good name. I also wouldn't rule out And this one's 469 00:25:51,280 --> 00:25:53,479 Speaker 1: gonna be I know that this is sort of a 470 00:25:53,480 --> 00:25:56,959 Speaker 1: divisive one. Josh McDaniels. I mean, like, you look at 471 00:25:56,960 --> 00:26:00,280 Speaker 1: what he's done with Mac Jones in Trevor Lawrence's draft class, right, 472 00:26:00,280 --> 00:26:01,919 Speaker 1: And it's not just Mac Jones if you look at 473 00:26:01,920 --> 00:26:04,800 Speaker 1: his history. Developed Matt Castle into a quarterback who want 474 00:26:04,800 --> 00:26:07,840 Speaker 1: a division title with another team. Developed Jimmy Garoppolo into 475 00:26:07,880 --> 00:26:10,359 Speaker 1: a quarterback who went to a Super Bowl with another team. 476 00:26:10,480 --> 00:26:12,800 Speaker 1: Developed Jacobe Bursett into a guy who's probably going to 477 00:26:12,840 --> 00:26:15,440 Speaker 1: spend ten years in the NFL. He's got great track 478 00:26:15,480 --> 00:26:18,320 Speaker 1: record with quarterbacks. He's been a head coach before. And 479 00:26:18,359 --> 00:26:21,760 Speaker 1: I will say this too, shod Khan, Tony Kahn. That 480 00:26:21,840 --> 00:26:24,520 Speaker 1: ownership group they listened to Bill Belichick. One of the 481 00:26:24,520 --> 00:26:27,920 Speaker 1: reasons Doug Marrone wound up going from interim coach to 482 00:26:28,000 --> 00:26:30,800 Speaker 1: full time head coach in twenty and seventeen. Is because 483 00:26:30,840 --> 00:26:33,679 Speaker 1: Bill Belichick told the Cons this guy can do it, 484 00:26:33,920 --> 00:26:37,160 Speaker 1: so they've got history of going to Belichick. Belichick sort 485 00:26:37,200 --> 00:26:40,080 Speaker 1: of owes Josh McDaniels one after what happened a couple 486 00:26:40,080 --> 00:26:42,480 Speaker 1: of years ago with the Giant's job in the Panther's job, 487 00:26:43,000 --> 00:26:45,560 Speaker 1: so it wouldn't surprise me at Bill Belichick went to 488 00:26:45,640 --> 00:26:48,399 Speaker 1: bat for Josh McDaniels with Jacksonville. And it's not the 489 00:26:48,440 --> 00:26:53,560 Speaker 1: craziest idea because Josh McDaniels history of developing quarterbacks is 490 00:26:53,680 --> 00:26:56,080 Speaker 1: I think at an example or a level. What about 491 00:26:56,119 --> 00:26:59,560 Speaker 1: Doug Peterson, who, yeah, he won a Super Bowl and 492 00:26:59,680 --> 00:27:04,000 Speaker 1: just disappeared, right. And there's some interesting, you know like 493 00:27:04,080 --> 00:27:06,920 Speaker 1: retread names that I think you're going to hear, and 494 00:27:07,280 --> 00:27:08,439 Speaker 1: you know a lot of them are on the defensive 495 00:27:08,440 --> 00:27:11,720 Speaker 1: side of ball quit quite honestly, like Rahee Morris, Todd Bowles, 496 00:27:12,320 --> 00:27:14,600 Speaker 1: Um Dan Quinn, Like those are all good names that 497 00:27:14,600 --> 00:27:17,080 Speaker 1: I think you're gonna hear. Kind of goes through the cycle, 498 00:27:17,560 --> 00:27:20,639 Speaker 1: um this year. Like I think Doug Peterson's another one 499 00:27:20,680 --> 00:27:24,240 Speaker 1: that's a good name. And you know, obviously like Carson Wentz, 500 00:27:24,320 --> 00:27:27,160 Speaker 1: benefited early in his career. Now you know one sideways 501 00:27:27,240 --> 00:27:29,640 Speaker 1: later on, but you look early in his career, Doug 502 00:27:29,680 --> 00:27:32,960 Speaker 1: Peterson was able to build a staff and bringing in 503 00:27:33,000 --> 00:27:36,160 Speaker 1: like Frank Reich as offensive coordinator and John d. Filippo 504 00:27:36,280 --> 00:27:38,879 Speaker 1: as his quarterbacks coach, a coach, a staff that was 505 00:27:38,920 --> 00:27:41,320 Speaker 1: able to support the young quarterback, and they got him 506 00:27:41,320 --> 00:27:43,840 Speaker 1: playing at an MVP level by year two. And I 507 00:27:43,880 --> 00:27:45,840 Speaker 1: know that team, you know, didn't go to the super 508 00:27:45,880 --> 00:27:48,040 Speaker 1: Bowl with Carson Wentz, but they went to the Super 509 00:27:48,119 --> 00:27:50,080 Speaker 1: Bowl with Car with with with the team that Carson 510 00:27:50,160 --> 00:27:53,520 Speaker 1: Wentz was an MVP candidate force. So I think Doug 511 00:27:53,520 --> 00:27:55,640 Speaker 1: Peterson is a name that you kick around and and 512 00:27:55,640 --> 00:27:58,080 Speaker 1: and makes a lot of sense and the beauty of it. Dan, 513 00:27:58,440 --> 00:28:01,320 Speaker 1: here's the thing they've got months now, you know, before 514 00:28:01,640 --> 00:28:04,159 Speaker 1: you know, the before we get to Black Monday and 515 00:28:04,200 --> 00:28:07,239 Speaker 1: they're even allowed to hire somebody. And so I think 516 00:28:07,280 --> 00:28:08,879 Speaker 1: you look at it. If you're then this gives you 517 00:28:08,920 --> 00:28:10,760 Speaker 1: the chance to cast a wide net. You don't need 518 00:28:10,800 --> 00:28:14,880 Speaker 1: to focus on first chance guy, retread guy, defensive guy, 519 00:28:15,000 --> 00:28:17,719 Speaker 1: offensive guy. They've now got the time to cast that 520 00:28:17,760 --> 00:28:20,160 Speaker 1: wide net and look at whoever they want to look at. 521 00:28:20,320 --> 00:28:24,080 Speaker 1: What's the current state of COVID in the NFL, in 522 00:28:24,160 --> 00:28:28,240 Speaker 1: are any games in jeopardy? And well, it's it's interesting 523 00:28:28,240 --> 00:28:32,600 Speaker 1: because I don't think so. Like the NFL will tell 524 00:28:32,640 --> 00:28:36,440 Speaker 1: you that they're not considering postponing games. I think it's 525 00:28:36,440 --> 00:28:38,320 Speaker 1: gonna be much harder. It'll be much harder to move 526 00:28:38,400 --> 00:28:40,840 Speaker 1: games this year than it was last year, mainly because 527 00:28:40,840 --> 00:28:43,440 Speaker 1: you got fans in the stands like last year. Yeah, 528 00:28:43,600 --> 00:28:47,479 Speaker 1: is there a forefeit policy the forfeit, yes, But the 529 00:28:47,480 --> 00:28:51,400 Speaker 1: forfeit policies only goes into effect if the spread within 530 00:28:51,440 --> 00:28:54,479 Speaker 1: a building can be traced to an unvaccinated player. In 531 00:28:54,520 --> 00:28:57,480 Speaker 1: other words, like if I'm unvaccinated and I bring it 532 00:28:57,600 --> 00:29:00,520 Speaker 1: into the office like then the team can be held 533 00:29:00,600 --> 00:29:03,920 Speaker 1: responsible for that. If the players who have passed it 534 00:29:03,960 --> 00:29:07,480 Speaker 1: around are vaccinated, then the league has said they'll do 535 00:29:07,520 --> 00:29:10,320 Speaker 1: what they can to accommodate everybody. I mean, I think 536 00:29:10,320 --> 00:29:12,040 Speaker 1: they're going to do what they can to get these 537 00:29:12,040 --> 00:29:14,560 Speaker 1: games played. Part of the issue, though, Dan, you know, 538 00:29:14,800 --> 00:29:18,040 Speaker 1: doctor Allen Sills, the chief medical officer for the league, 539 00:29:18,320 --> 00:29:21,000 Speaker 1: went in front of the owners yesterday and basically said 540 00:29:21,000 --> 00:29:23,120 Speaker 1: to them, this is omicron. That's why this is happening 541 00:29:23,120 --> 00:29:24,520 Speaker 1: with the Rams that's why this is happening with the 542 00:29:24,560 --> 00:29:27,600 Speaker 1: Browns and the problem we have right now. This is 543 00:29:27,680 --> 00:29:31,720 Speaker 1: more contagious than the previous strains, but it's also got 544 00:29:31,880 --> 00:29:35,400 Speaker 1: milder effects. So basically you're seeing something that's probably going 545 00:29:35,440 --> 00:29:37,880 Speaker 1: to spread a little easier, but it's going to have 546 00:29:37,960 --> 00:29:40,360 Speaker 1: less of an effect on the people involved. And that's 547 00:29:40,400 --> 00:29:42,200 Speaker 1: why they've gone to the union and they're talking to 548 00:29:42,240 --> 00:29:46,040 Speaker 1: the union about finding a way to change the protocols 549 00:29:46,040 --> 00:29:48,760 Speaker 1: and make maybe significant changes to the protocols. So a 550 00:29:48,800 --> 00:29:51,640 Speaker 1: couple ideas that have been discussed. One is incentivizing the 551 00:29:51,640 --> 00:29:54,200 Speaker 1: booster and if you get this, to say the players, 552 00:29:54,200 --> 00:29:55,600 Speaker 1: if you get the booster, then you don't have to 553 00:29:55,600 --> 00:29:57,840 Speaker 1: test anymore. I don't think that one's going to happen. 554 00:29:58,080 --> 00:30:01,120 Speaker 1: A second idea that I think maybe a little more 555 00:30:01,200 --> 00:30:04,720 Speaker 1: sense is if you test, going back to daily testing, 556 00:30:05,040 --> 00:30:07,960 Speaker 1: and then if a guy tests positive and he's asymptomatic 557 00:30:08,120 --> 00:30:11,000 Speaker 1: Mattock and he's vaccinated, he can stay in the building. 558 00:30:11,040 --> 00:30:13,920 Speaker 1: He just has to mask and distance and he can play. 559 00:30:14,000 --> 00:30:17,240 Speaker 1: Because there's been no evidence of on field transmission of 560 00:30:17,240 --> 00:30:20,000 Speaker 1: the virus one way or another. With how quickly this 561 00:30:20,120 --> 00:30:23,240 Speaker 1: spread between the Brown situation, the Rams situation, and really 562 00:30:23,280 --> 00:30:25,680 Speaker 1: all seven of the teams that are in intensive protocols 563 00:30:25,760 --> 00:30:29,040 Speaker 1: right now. I think the league is concerned that this 564 00:30:29,080 --> 00:30:31,640 Speaker 1: is the tip of the iceberg and they are going 565 00:30:31,720 --> 00:30:34,560 Speaker 1: to be put in certain circumstances where you could have 566 00:30:34,560 --> 00:30:36,720 Speaker 1: a situation like you had last year in Denver with 567 00:30:36,760 --> 00:30:40,719 Speaker 1: the quarterbacks or New Orleans with the running backs. Great stuff, Albert, 568 00:30:40,760 --> 00:30:44,080 Speaker 1: Thanks is always for joining us. You got Dan Albert Breer, 569 00:30:44,240 --> 00:30:47,960 Speaker 1: Senior NFL reporter, lead content strategist for the Monday Morning Quarterback. 570 00:30:48,880 --> 00:30:51,280 Speaker 1: Always smarter when Albert comes on a couple of phone 571 00:30:51,280 --> 00:30:53,800 Speaker 1: calls here Jeff and Detroit. Hi Jeff, what's on your mind? 572 00:30:56,120 --> 00:30:58,760 Speaker 1: What up? Though? One time for Chad row Well here 573 00:30:58,800 --> 00:31:01,400 Speaker 1: in Michigan. I want to be too very due to 574 00:31:01,800 --> 00:31:05,200 Speaker 1: Herbert Myers exit, but we kind of thought this one comment. 575 00:31:05,480 --> 00:31:07,720 Speaker 1: I mean, when you get to the point where you 576 00:31:07,880 --> 00:31:11,600 Speaker 1: just run Columbus, Ohio and then you go wherever you 577 00:31:11,680 --> 00:31:13,239 Speaker 1: want to go and do whatever you want to do, 578 00:31:13,480 --> 00:31:15,720 Speaker 1: you get to the NFL, it's not the same. It 579 00:31:15,880 --> 00:31:18,400 Speaker 1: really isn't the same. And I kind of feel bad 580 00:31:19,160 --> 00:31:23,440 Speaker 1: for Trevor Lawrence, the quarterback, because time at the time 581 00:31:23,480 --> 00:31:25,800 Speaker 1: he had to get up there and make excuses for 582 00:31:26,040 --> 00:31:28,640 Speaker 1: his coach. By my question to your man is Vista. 583 00:31:29,680 --> 00:31:32,960 Speaker 1: If you're a coach and you get offered both jobs, 584 00:31:33,400 --> 00:31:36,720 Speaker 1: which one would you take? Also the Deon situation, Man, 585 00:31:36,920 --> 00:31:39,360 Speaker 1: you did a wonderful job. I loved your commentary on that. 586 00:31:39,960 --> 00:31:41,520 Speaker 1: You hit You hit the nail on the head with 587 00:31:41,600 --> 00:31:44,400 Speaker 1: the Deon because Florida States should have had Behon as 588 00:31:44,400 --> 00:31:46,600 Speaker 1: their coach. But which one would you take that? What 589 00:31:47,080 --> 00:31:52,440 Speaker 1: job Jacksonville or between? Yeah? Between Jacksonville and Jacksonville. I'm 590 00:31:52,440 --> 00:32:02,160 Speaker 1: sorry Jacksonville and the Raiders gid apologize. Yeah, the Raiders did. Um. 591 00:32:02,360 --> 00:32:06,520 Speaker 1: I'd have to look at you know, draft picks. They've 592 00:32:06,560 --> 00:32:08,680 Speaker 1: done a horrible job at their draft picks. They got 593 00:32:08,680 --> 00:32:11,760 Speaker 1: a new stadium, a lot of momentum there, super Bowl 594 00:32:11,760 --> 00:32:16,720 Speaker 1: com into town. Um you got you got a good quarterback, 595 00:32:16,960 --> 00:32:20,120 Speaker 1: solid quarterback, got a good running back, good tight end. 596 00:32:21,040 --> 00:32:27,520 Speaker 1: They they whipped big time on draft picks. Jackson You know, 597 00:32:29,920 --> 00:32:33,400 Speaker 1: how about a third option? How about it? How about 598 00:32:33,400 --> 00:32:36,320 Speaker 1: it to stay here and do this job instead of Yes, 599 00:32:37,120 --> 00:32:41,080 Speaker 1: Trevor Lawrence, his maturity through this is pretty remarkable. He's 600 00:32:41,120 --> 00:32:42,800 Speaker 1: handled he's handled this about as good as he can. 601 00:32:42,840 --> 00:32:44,360 Speaker 1: I mean even in that sound bite we played in 602 00:32:44,360 --> 00:32:46,680 Speaker 1: the last hour, You're like, he sounds like a veteran. 603 00:32:46,720 --> 00:32:49,400 Speaker 1: He doesn't sound like, you know, a kid. But imagine 604 00:32:49,520 --> 00:32:52,640 Speaker 1: if now, if you're Trevor Lawrence, do you go to 605 00:32:52,720 --> 00:32:56,760 Speaker 1: Shod Khan and say, I'd like to be involved in 606 00:32:56,960 --> 00:33:02,240 Speaker 1: the coaching search. Now, if I'm Shad Khan, I say, 607 00:33:03,280 --> 00:33:05,760 Speaker 1: while I like that my quarterback is doing that, I'm 608 00:33:05,800 --> 00:33:10,200 Speaker 1: going to tell him, No, you don't have experience here, 609 00:33:10,680 --> 00:33:14,080 Speaker 1: unless you're going to tell me about Dabo Sweeney. No, 610 00:33:14,240 --> 00:33:18,440 Speaker 1: I'd rather not put you in a position where I 611 00:33:18,480 --> 00:33:20,040 Speaker 1: tell you we're not going to hire the guy you 612 00:33:20,040 --> 00:33:23,400 Speaker 1: want us to hire. I would not. You haven't done anything. 613 00:33:23,480 --> 00:33:26,440 Speaker 1: You got to worry about being a good quarterback. Don't 614 00:33:26,440 --> 00:33:30,920 Speaker 1: be involved in the coaching search. But Shadkan can say 615 00:33:31,120 --> 00:33:34,320 Speaker 1: you have my word, I will find the best person 616 00:33:34,680 --> 00:33:38,800 Speaker 1: to help develop you, which, of course he thought he had. 617 00:33:39,240 --> 00:33:41,760 Speaker 1: Gus and Los Angeles, Hey Gus, what's on your mind? 618 00:33:44,080 --> 00:33:47,520 Speaker 1: Good morning, mister patricks o Paul as well. Really quickly 619 00:33:47,520 --> 00:33:50,280 Speaker 1: before I get into the urban Marthin mclovin hate that 620 00:33:50,320 --> 00:33:51,960 Speaker 1: I'm not going to be able to see in February, 621 00:33:52,080 --> 00:33:54,480 Speaker 1: was looking forward? Do you describing to me, the time 622 00:33:54,520 --> 00:33:56,720 Speaker 1: you saw the great White Shark, it's going to be 623 00:33:56,800 --> 00:34:00,479 Speaker 1: sad not to see it quickly. Just wanted to talk 624 00:34:00,520 --> 00:34:02,720 Speaker 1: about the Urban mar thing. So when it was announced 625 00:34:02,760 --> 00:34:07,400 Speaker 1: last night that he was fired, I was curious, once again, 626 00:34:07,840 --> 00:34:10,879 Speaker 1: it's like this college coach, Oh, he's done so much 627 00:34:10,920 --> 00:34:14,080 Speaker 1: in college, did so much in college, they bring him in. 628 00:34:14,200 --> 00:34:16,680 Speaker 1: Why didn't it work out? I looked up into Super 629 00:34:16,680 --> 00:34:21,000 Speaker 1: Bowl winning coaches, and out of the fifty five that 630 00:34:21,080 --> 00:34:23,839 Speaker 1: have been handed out, with the exception of Pete Carroll 631 00:34:23,880 --> 00:34:26,320 Speaker 1: and Jimmy Johnson and Barry Switzer, which kind of is 632 00:34:26,400 --> 00:34:30,719 Speaker 1: Jimmy Johnson's that's been the only time so out of 633 00:34:30,719 --> 00:34:33,560 Speaker 1: fifty five, three guys have only gotten it. When is 634 00:34:33,600 --> 00:34:36,160 Speaker 1: it going to be to where it's like it doesn't 635 00:34:36,239 --> 00:34:39,200 Speaker 1: matter anymore how great of a college coaches is. It's 636 00:34:39,239 --> 00:34:41,719 Speaker 1: like like, it's like all these guys that win the 637 00:34:41,760 --> 00:34:44,600 Speaker 1: Super Bowls, they've been in the NFL, they've been defensive 638 00:34:44,600 --> 00:34:47,920 Speaker 1: line coach, offensive coordinators, they've done stuff in the NFL 639 00:34:47,960 --> 00:34:51,400 Speaker 1: to prove that they can coach NFL guys. So it's like, 640 00:34:51,600 --> 00:34:53,919 Speaker 1: when is it gonna kind of be like, okay, cool, 641 00:34:53,960 --> 00:34:55,920 Speaker 1: they've won national titles, but what have they done in 642 00:34:55,920 --> 00:34:58,759 Speaker 1: the NFL. That's my question. So you can boys have 643 00:34:58,800 --> 00:35:01,200 Speaker 1: a great week, Thank you, Gus. I think what happens 644 00:35:01,360 --> 00:35:05,720 Speaker 1: is you build up this resume and you own a town, 645 00:35:06,360 --> 00:35:10,520 Speaker 1: you own Columbus, you own Gainesville, and then you get 646 00:35:10,560 --> 00:35:13,880 Speaker 1: to the NFL and you think you can do the same. Well, 647 00:35:14,320 --> 00:35:17,040 Speaker 1: you can get all the talent you can recruit and 648 00:35:17,120 --> 00:35:19,640 Speaker 1: you can win ten games, but that doesn't work in 649 00:35:19,680 --> 00:35:24,480 Speaker 1: the NFL. I mean Steve Spurrier, he had he had 650 00:35:24,480 --> 00:35:27,040 Speaker 1: it made at Florida and then all of a sudden 651 00:35:27,320 --> 00:35:32,160 Speaker 1: goes on, I'm gonna try the NFL. Then he goes 652 00:35:32,160 --> 00:35:35,480 Speaker 1: back South Carolina. He did pretty well. Hell, he won 653 00:35:35,600 --> 00:35:39,960 Speaker 1: at Duke. Like Spurrier was just a great college coach. 654 00:35:40,880 --> 00:35:43,439 Speaker 1: Nick Saban is not wired to be an NFL head coach. 655 00:35:44,800 --> 00:35:47,440 Speaker 1: I mean he was an average NFL coach and when 656 00:35:47,560 --> 00:35:52,680 Speaker 1: they're long, but it feels like your ego doesn't get 657 00:35:52,719 --> 00:35:57,279 Speaker 1: inflated when you're in the NFL as an assistant and 658 00:35:57,320 --> 00:36:00,359 Speaker 1: then you graduate to be a head coach. So you've 659 00:36:00,400 --> 00:36:03,879 Speaker 1: worked to get up, but in the system and you're 660 00:36:04,000 --> 00:36:07,759 Speaker 1: there with the players and an offensive coordinator, a defensive coordinator. 661 00:36:08,200 --> 00:36:12,640 Speaker 1: You have a great relationship with certain players as people. 662 00:36:13,320 --> 00:36:16,640 Speaker 1: Head coach doesn't have the time to do that. The 663 00:36:16,680 --> 00:36:22,000 Speaker 1: assistant does. He develops rapport because you have to. The 664 00:36:22,120 --> 00:36:27,359 Speaker 1: head coach doesn't. He's the CEO. And I think that's 665 00:36:27,360 --> 00:36:29,480 Speaker 1: where you see a lot of these coaches like Eric 666 00:36:29,520 --> 00:36:31,200 Speaker 1: b Enemy is not going to get a head coaching 667 00:36:31,280 --> 00:36:33,399 Speaker 1: job and all of a sudden, you know his ego 668 00:36:33,480 --> 00:36:36,640 Speaker 1: is going to be out of control. Or Byron Leftwich. 669 00:36:37,239 --> 00:36:39,319 Speaker 1: It's because they've been in the system. They worked in 670 00:36:39,360 --> 00:36:42,680 Speaker 1: the system, they understand the system. Urban comes in and 671 00:36:42,719 --> 00:36:44,880 Speaker 1: goes I can be just like I was in Columbus 672 00:36:45,000 --> 00:36:48,160 Speaker 1: or Gainesville, and the answers, no, you can't, Steve Spurrier, 673 00:36:48,239 --> 00:36:51,120 Speaker 1: I can be the old ball coach, headball coach like 674 00:36:51,160 --> 00:36:56,520 Speaker 1: I was in Florida. Though you can't. And that's the difference. 675 00:36:56,560 --> 00:37:00,440 Speaker 1: I think it's the ego of this. You're you're the 676 00:37:00,480 --> 00:37:03,600 Speaker 1: main person in college in the NFL, it's all about players. 677 00:37:04,239 --> 00:37:06,360 Speaker 1: Take a break. More phone calls coming up. Thanks for 678 00:37:06,400 --> 00:37:08,840 Speaker 1: listening to The Dan Patrick Show podcast. 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Urban myth would have been way to go. 708 00:38:56,800 --> 00:39:00,160 Speaker 1: Do you have mock headlines today? Tell what you know? 709 00:39:00,280 --> 00:39:11,759 Speaker 1: Have limerick? So no monk headline, no limerick. You could 710 00:39:11,800 --> 00:39:13,960 Speaker 1: probably throw a limerick together if we're up for that. Yeah, 711 00:39:14,200 --> 00:39:20,560 Speaker 1: maybe next time Urban Myers. This happens all the time. 712 00:39:20,840 --> 00:39:22,520 Speaker 1: You know, when we're calling around, we want to get 713 00:39:22,520 --> 00:39:25,600 Speaker 1: the right guest on you know, big story, and you know, 714 00:39:25,680 --> 00:39:27,960 Speaker 1: we'll reach out to a lot of different people, and 715 00:39:28,000 --> 00:39:30,719 Speaker 1: then whenever we hear that somebody is swamped or they 716 00:39:30,760 --> 00:39:36,080 Speaker 1: can't do it, Pauli always says the same thing to Fritzie. Yes, 717 00:39:36,560 --> 00:39:38,520 Speaker 1: we'll call you next time. Irban Myer gets fired in 718 00:39:38,560 --> 00:39:41,480 Speaker 1: the middle of the night and the national news story. 719 00:39:41,640 --> 00:39:44,120 Speaker 1: It drives me crazy. It's like a let's say blank 720 00:39:44,239 --> 00:39:50,279 Speaker 1: football team upsets Ohio States or Alabama. We'd love to 721 00:39:50,280 --> 00:39:52,480 Speaker 1: have your coach on Fritzie does the work. We'd love 722 00:39:52,520 --> 00:39:54,279 Speaker 1: to have your coach on Monday to talk about it. 723 00:39:54,600 --> 00:39:56,080 Speaker 1: He's a little busy right now. He's out on the 724 00:39:56,120 --> 00:39:59,960 Speaker 1: recruiting trail. We'll call you next time that Rice upset, 725 00:40:00,000 --> 00:40:04,759 Speaker 1: that's Alabama. Oh boy, what are you doing? Y's nuts right, 726 00:40:04,800 --> 00:40:07,560 Speaker 1: I'm right. If Rice upset Alabama, I think we'll get 727 00:40:07,640 --> 00:40:11,440 Speaker 1: Rice's head coach. We've had situations where, yes, I mean 728 00:40:11,480 --> 00:40:13,400 Speaker 1: people who will never be talked about again on a 729 00:40:13,480 --> 00:40:16,960 Speaker 1: national radio show, pass on an interview. Oh, Paulie just 730 00:40:17,080 --> 00:40:20,400 Speaker 1: takes it so like I I take it personally. But 731 00:40:20,480 --> 00:40:24,359 Speaker 1: I know that people are busy, and yes I have 732 00:40:25,080 --> 00:40:27,680 Speaker 1: you know, I think this show takes priority, and I 733 00:40:27,719 --> 00:40:30,800 Speaker 1: know it shouldn't. But when you reach out to somebody, 734 00:40:30,800 --> 00:40:34,279 Speaker 1: you're like, they can't join us. Oh great, we'll wait 735 00:40:34,360 --> 00:40:41,479 Speaker 1: till next time. Indiana State upsets Duke Duke. Oh yeah great, yeah, 736 00:40:41,520 --> 00:40:46,520 Speaker 1: next time, tell him next time. Yes, Steton and probably 737 00:40:46,600 --> 00:40:48,719 Speaker 1: seventy percent of the time too, when you hear oh 738 00:40:48,760 --> 00:40:50,680 Speaker 1: so and so's unavailable. What they don't have phones? Right 739 00:40:51,800 --> 00:40:53,480 Speaker 1: where do they go that there's no phones, they don't 740 00:40:53,480 --> 00:40:56,040 Speaker 1: have a cell phone. That is true, That is true. Well, 741 00:40:56,080 --> 00:40:58,800 Speaker 1: we'll get the he's unavailable. What do you mean he's unavailable? 742 00:40:58,840 --> 00:41:01,560 Speaker 1: What is he available? We'll tape it, we'll come back 743 00:41:01,560 --> 00:41:05,160 Speaker 1: in in the afternoon. Yeah, you give him every option. 744 00:41:05,440 --> 00:41:07,560 Speaker 1: I'll send him back a note. Dan is available twenty 745 00:41:07,560 --> 00:41:09,719 Speaker 1: four hours a day to interview year guy. Yes, When 746 00:41:09,800 --> 00:41:11,920 Speaker 1: when is he available? Yes? Roger Goodell hasn't that cell 747 00:41:11,920 --> 00:41:16,600 Speaker 1: phone service since twenty twelve. He's just unable. No, he's unavailable. Available, 748 00:41:16,680 --> 00:41:20,919 Speaker 1: But does they're unreachable? No, I just cannot can't, can't 749 00:41:20,960 --> 00:41:24,600 Speaker 1: reach him. Yeah, it's okay. It's a better story that 750 00:41:24,680 --> 00:41:28,320 Speaker 1: the commissioner doesn't join us than he does. Yeah, it's okay. 751 00:41:28,440 --> 00:41:31,880 Speaker 1: I don't take it personally. It's a badge of courage. 752 00:41:31,920 --> 00:41:35,439 Speaker 1: It's pride where he knows that he'll face some tough 753 00:41:35,520 --> 00:41:38,520 Speaker 1: questions and I'll you know, be fair to him. But 754 00:41:38,680 --> 00:41:41,040 Speaker 1: he probably doesn't, you know, like, why do I want 755 00:41:41,040 --> 00:41:44,080 Speaker 1: to ruin my day? Why do I want to interrupt 756 00:41:44,120 --> 00:41:47,400 Speaker 1: my day to you know, have him pepper me with questions. 757 00:41:47,600 --> 00:41:50,560 Speaker 1: I get it now. That doesn't stop the other commissioners 758 00:41:50,560 --> 00:41:53,440 Speaker 1: from joining us. I mean Rob Manfred I'm always asking 759 00:41:53,520 --> 00:41:56,759 Speaker 1: him tough questions. Yes, mclenan, what's the thing that you 760 00:41:56,840 --> 00:41:59,200 Speaker 1: and see League always used to get into something about it. 761 00:41:59,760 --> 00:42:01,400 Speaker 1: I remember you tell the story that he would always 762 00:42:01,400 --> 00:42:03,239 Speaker 1: get lunch right before they are there was something about 763 00:42:03,280 --> 00:42:06,400 Speaker 1: hot dogs. He'd have a hot dog. He'd listen to 764 00:42:06,440 --> 00:42:09,600 Speaker 1: our show in that like thirty minute window during lunch, 765 00:42:10,160 --> 00:42:13,640 Speaker 1: and then you know, I would say, hey, Commissioner, we're 766 00:42:13,640 --> 00:42:15,359 Speaker 1: going to call you, and he'd hear it while he 767 00:42:15,440 --> 00:42:18,680 Speaker 1: was getting a hot dog at someplace in Milwaukee, and 768 00:42:18,719 --> 00:42:21,760 Speaker 1: then we would talk to the commissioner. He was always 769 00:42:21,800 --> 00:42:26,560 Speaker 1: available for me, always, and we didn't always agree. He'd 770 00:42:26,560 --> 00:42:29,600 Speaker 1: get mad at me, but I could. I could at 771 00:42:29,680 --> 00:42:33,760 Speaker 1: least tell him something and he would answer a question, 772 00:42:33,840 --> 00:42:36,040 Speaker 1: sometimes to be on the record. Sometimes it wouldn't be, 773 00:42:36,120 --> 00:42:38,200 Speaker 1: but he was at least available. And I always appreciate 774 00:42:38,320 --> 00:42:43,240 Speaker 1: David Stern. We famously butted heads, but he was available. 775 00:42:44,360 --> 00:42:47,880 Speaker 1: And really one of the nicest gestures is when he 776 00:42:47,960 --> 00:42:51,920 Speaker 1: passed away, the NBA reached out and said, you know, 777 00:42:52,000 --> 00:42:55,960 Speaker 1: we want to invite you to the wake. And it 778 00:42:56,040 --> 00:42:57,600 Speaker 1: was in the morning and I, you know, I was 779 00:42:57,640 --> 00:43:01,160 Speaker 1: doing the show but I really appreciated that, and I'm 780 00:43:01,200 --> 00:43:03,040 Speaker 1: sure the commissioner would have gotten a big kick out 781 00:43:03,040 --> 00:43:05,439 Speaker 1: of that that they were going to have me there. 782 00:43:06,480 --> 00:43:11,600 Speaker 1: Final hour coming up, gets more phone calls, more on 783 00:43:11,920 --> 00:43:16,520 Speaker 1: urban Meyer being fired. 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