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Speaker 2: You're listening to Fox Sports Radio.

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Speaker 1: Well, every year, I pick a team that I think

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Speaker 1: is going to come close to doubling their wins, and

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Speaker 1: I've been on about a four year streak, and the

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Speaker 1: Patriots were that team this year.

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Speaker 3: For a lot of reasons.

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Speaker 1: One, I didn't like the direction of the Dolphins or

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Speaker 1: the Jets, and I thought they could go four and

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Speaker 1: oh and I also think so much of Mike Frable,

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Speaker 1: who's just a really bright guy. Everybody I've ever known

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Speaker 1: that knows Mike just instantly connects with him. Drew Bledsone

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Speaker 1: knows him. They actually played together for a year and

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Speaker 1: Drew is joining us undisclosed location in the Northwest. I'm jealous,

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Speaker 1: that's all I'm gonna say. A beautiful, beautiful place. So

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Speaker 1: you were only a team eight for a year, but

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Speaker 1: everybody I know that's played with him or been in

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Speaker 1: a staff. He just is you know, Drew. Some guys

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Speaker 1: just have a connect ability. And so tell me about

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Speaker 1: your relationship with Rabel in the year you played with him.

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Speaker 4: You know, it's funny because I only played with Mike

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Speaker 4: for like five or six years. You know, we just

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Speaker 4: had a great connection personally. You know, it's not a

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Speaker 4: surprise to me or to anybody that knows Mike that

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Speaker 4: he's had great success as a coach. You know, one

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Speaker 4: funny thing about Mike is he just had so damn

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Speaker 4: much energy as a player. You know, he would you know,

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Speaker 4: in the middle of practice, he would go run scout team,

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Speaker 4: kickoff coverage just to burn off some energy. I've compared

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Speaker 4: him to like a like a labrador, you know, like

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Speaker 4: like you got to run him, you know, like like

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Speaker 4: you had to run him. And honestly, that's how Rabes

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Speaker 4: ended up catching all those touchdowns that he caught. I

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Speaker 4: get credit for those, call him because before games, he

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Speaker 4: had to burn off energy before NFL games, So I

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Speaker 4: pregame and that's when you know, Charlie Wise and Belichick

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Speaker 5: So he owes me for all of those touchdown cans.

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Speaker 1: He certainly does. I will say Drake May, I liked

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Speaker 1: But you know, Vrabel kept saying he just needs to

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Speaker 1: understand you got to be a leader. On Tuesday, Wednesday, Thursday,

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Speaker 1: This is your team now. But I do think Drew

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Speaker 1: you know this. When you go to an NFL team,

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Speaker 1: first two or three years, and yet your coach is like,

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Speaker 1: all right, be a leader. You're talking to thirty seven

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Speaker 1: in Drake May, when you are a young guy looking

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Speaker 5: God, it was intimidating. Man. I mean I was twenty one.

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Speaker 4: I just turned twenty one stepping into the huddle with

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Speaker 4: that's where that's where Drake is. But you know, but

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Speaker 4: being a leader doesn't mean you have to be vocal

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Speaker 4: be heard vocally. Uh and uh, you know, but watching

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Speaker 4: I think the comparisons and I you know, look, we're

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Speaker 4: And I think the comparisons between Drake may And and

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Speaker 5: I really do. And and that's high.

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Speaker 4: Praise for Drake as just a second year player, but

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Speaker 1: So you know, this happens in the NFL from time

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Speaker 1: Philly's got talent, but they have no identity. They don't

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Speaker 1: you know, they've had so much success, it's like, guys,

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Speaker 1: you're kind of a blue collar, punch in the mouth offense.

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Speaker 1: when you watch Philly and you're like, how does Saquan

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Speaker 4: Yeah, you know, I think Philly. You're exactly right. They

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Speaker 4: are a punchy in the mouth. Run the football, play defense,

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Speaker 4: and that's you know, that's that's who they are.

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Speaker 4: But in order to you know, in order to play

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Speaker 5: Now you know, they're four and.

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Speaker 4: One, I don't know, and they played you know, the

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Speaker 4: there's no reason to panic, uh, you know, with what's

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Speaker 4: their identity, you know, and it's it's fitting for Philly

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Speaker 4: because that's what Philly is is a city, you know,

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Speaker 4: it's a blue collar city.

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Speaker 5: And that's the way the Eagles.

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Speaker 4: But they have to be remarkably consistent offensively to play

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Speaker 1: So you are the rare, like Peyton Manning, you're a

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Speaker 1: You're a top draft pick. So you didn't, like Baker

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Speaker 3: You didn't have that nasty chip on the shoulder.

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Speaker 1: You may have had it from how you were treated

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Speaker 3: That's not your life.

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Speaker 1: And I said, I think chip on the shoulder is

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Speaker 1: important as long as it doesn't consume you and define you.

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Speaker 1: I thought it kind of defined Baker for about three years.

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Speaker 1: It's like, dude, you don't have to go to the

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Speaker 1: Sometimes it's okay to be like, hey, I'm telling a guy.

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Speaker 1: Baker and Sam yesterday, I had a lot of critics

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Speaker 3: Do you buy that?

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Speaker 4: I think there's something to that, Colin. You know, you

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Speaker 4: look at Baker and I was curious to see how

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Speaker 4: he handled that, you know, because he was that underdog guy,

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Speaker 5: Of a sudden, you know, top draft pick.

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Speaker 4: And you know, it's hard to have a chip on

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Speaker 4: that doesn't really fly. People aren't aren't looking down on

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Speaker 4: think that's kind of just how he's wired. And it's

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Speaker 4: needs to run around. He needs to be a football player,

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Speaker 4: you know, rather than just a you know, a game

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Speaker 5: And uh, that's when he's at his best, I think.

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Speaker 4: And and so you know, sometimes you have to manufacture.

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Speaker 5: That chip on your shoulder.

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Speaker 4: Uh and uh you know, so maybe that's why Baker

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Speaker 5: But but the guy's got real arm talent.

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Speaker 4: You know, like you look at it like he's a

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Speaker 5: Uh, you know, this guy he can spin it. You know,

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Speaker 4: Not a guy that's getting by on you know, average ability.

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Speaker 5: He can really throw the ball.

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Speaker 4: Uh you know, so uh you know, for him to

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Speaker 4: be looked at as this uh this underdog anymore, I

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Speaker 4: don't think is accurate. I think I do think he's

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Speaker 4: one of the elite guys in the NFL.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, sort of.

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Speaker 1: So I want to kind of end it on this

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Speaker 1: is that Belichick is not working in college and I

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Speaker 3: I love it.

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Speaker 1: And my theory theory is always once you buy into

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Speaker 1: your own supply, you're done. It doesn't matter how smart

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Speaker 1: you are or once you get rigid. The late Bobby

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Speaker 1: Knight's like, I'm not gonna do one and done's well, bro,

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Speaker 1: everybody else is doing them.

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Speaker 3: You know, you got it. You gotta put your arm

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Speaker 1: And Belichick, you know, he said later in his career,

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Speaker 1: it's like, there's certain guys that don't want to coach.

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Speaker 3: Well, you gotta you need talent.

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Speaker 1: You're buying into your own hype. Vrabel is about the

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Speaker 4: You know, Colin, there was one thing that was really

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Speaker 5: You remember when Dak got hurt a few years back.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, so did I. I thought that Jets would be competitive.

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Speaker 1: He's an easy guy to root for, Drew Bledso Double

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Speaker 5: We're almost done with harvest.

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Speaker 1: Double Back. Look it up the Double Back Winery in Walla, Walla, Washington.

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Speaker 1: I don't think as many hosts I.

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Speaker 3: Know where that's at exactly exactly. I can find not

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Speaker 5: Not many people do. It's the end of the road.

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Speaker 3: You don't age, my man, You look great. Thanks for

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Speaker 4: Likewise, Colin, always good to catch up anybody.

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Speaker 1: The great Drew Blood so four time pro bowler, number

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Speaker 1: one pick. I can't tell you where he's at, but

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Speaker 3: Turn on the news.

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Speaker 2: This is the headline.

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Speaker 9: News, all right, Colin, Let's get started with that. Patriots

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Speaker 8: Colin, was this one personal for you?

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Speaker 3: One hundred percent?

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Speaker 7: Obviously.

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Speaker 8: But to myself.

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Speaker 1: Well, they needed they needed that from him, Like, that's

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Speaker 9: No, we've talked around it, but there was an incident

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Speaker 9: Diggs side eyeing Josh.

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Speaker 5: Did you see that?

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Speaker 9: After the game? I'm like, why are you guys feeding

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Speaker 8: I'll leave it at that.

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Speaker 9: Impressive win for the Patriots, no doubt, still think the

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Speaker 3: The better team, right, No, I mean, listen, do you

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Speaker 5: You know, the.

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Speaker 1: You know you think you don't think it's an upset.

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Speaker 1: They were an eight and a half point favorite.

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Speaker 8: Significant.

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Speaker 1: That's about what the Giants will be as an underdog

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Speaker 9: Let me ask you, so that division is Bills and

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Speaker 3: Oh?

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Speaker 1: I think the Patriots are I think the Patriots that skin.

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Speaker 9: And if you maybe combined the Jets and Dolphins, they

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Speaker 1: Think the Jets are in the running for a number

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Speaker 8: Miami's awesome. What's the problem with that.

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Speaker 1: He's a little fin for me. But he has had

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Speaker 9: I know there was major hype coming into the season,

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Speaker 9: but Bro, look at these throws.

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Speaker 8: That's not even.

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Speaker 3: Close and he holds the ball his lack.

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Speaker 9: I mean, that's just such a bad miss.

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Speaker 8: And I know people want to fend.

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Speaker 9: Hey, hey, I'm off the arch Banning train.

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Speaker 3: He was terrible.

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Speaker 9: Two picks, took six sacks.

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Speaker 1: Now they're old lines, not great. They're all lines not great,

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Speaker 1: but sometimes you have to trust your eyes. His ball

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Speaker 1: sometimes doesn't have the velocity. He has bad misses. The

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Speaker 1: old lines not great. He's barely sixty and he's holding

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Speaker 1: the ball too long. So is he's seeing the field.

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Speaker 1: I'm not sure he sees the field terrible enough. Well,

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Speaker 1: there is something to be said. Bo Nick's a great example.

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Speaker 1: Bow last year held the ball a lot a little

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Speaker 1: about a second too long, bo Nicks. I was telling

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Speaker 1: the staff this morning. He plays so fast now, and

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Speaker 1: a lot of it is it takes you a while

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Speaker 1: to see the field. Arch Manning sat at Texas for

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Speaker 1: two years, didn't play. So you watch him and you're like,

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Speaker 1: he just doesn't. I mean, you're waiting for it to pop,

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Speaker 1: but he holds the ball, he doesn't see it and

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Speaker 1: let it rip quick. Mahomes is legendary, see it, let

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Speaker 1: it rip go accurate like Mahomes is like Marino.

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Speaker 3: It doesn't most guys can't do that.

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Speaker 1: But I watched bow NICKX yesterday and I'm like, oh

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Speaker 1: my god, bo Nicks has sped his process up in

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Speaker 1: the last year. Arch just feels slow and kind of ponderous.

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Speaker 8: Back then, yeah, it doesn't. And again I'm not going

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Speaker 8: to hammer the guy.

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Speaker 9: It doesn't seem like he processes quickly enough, so you

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Speaker 9: need to be decid off his quarterback. I'm going look

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Speaker 9: at this, read this, read bing bang boo quickly and

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Speaker 9: he's it doesn't feel like it's clicking. And now I

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Speaker 9: will say Arch talk to the media afterward, and it's

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Speaker 9: worth listening to.

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Speaker 8: As much as lost his sting stinger heart, this one's

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Speaker 8: going to hurt. It's always something to learn from.

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Speaker 3: You win some and then you learn some. So you

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Speaker 3: got to learn from this and get better.

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Speaker 9: I know you're all over the Texas message boards. There

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Speaker 9: is some chatter do we sit him down soft benching

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Speaker 9: if you will. Sark by the way, Sark is coming

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Speaker 9: out defending him hard. He's like, hey, who's going to

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Speaker 9: Ohio State and the swamp and winning? And it's like, well,

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Speaker 9: let's start.

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Speaker 3: You open the season number one in the country.

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Speaker 8: You're now out of the.

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Speaker 3: Top twenty five.

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Speaker 1: Well and again they started with four new offensive linemen,

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Speaker 1: but Oregon had to replace all eleven starters on offense,

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Speaker 1: and their offense looks unbelievable.

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Speaker 8: I will say we saw this with Beck.

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Speaker 9: He lost Bowers and lad McConkey and regressed, this guy's

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Speaker 9: missing golden and bonding.

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Speaker 1: So Lancer Line is a guy that I've on the

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Speaker 1: show a lot, a lot of respect for Lance. He

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Speaker 1: works for like NFL dot Com, he's he watches. He

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Speaker 1: is a scout. I mean Lance, he does radio, but

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Speaker 1: he's also a scout. And he said Arch just doesn't

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Speaker 1: see the field. So when I watched the Florida game,

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Speaker 1: I sat there for about two and a half hours

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Speaker 1: watching a series of you know, UCLA Penn State at Washington, Maryland.

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Speaker 1: And that's my take is that it takes rookies in

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Speaker 1: the NFL. A lot of them don't see the field quickly.

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Speaker 1: Mahomes was rare. But when I watch Arch, he's not

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Speaker 1: seeing the play. He's holding the ball too long. And

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Speaker 1: then when you watch the the video behind him, it's like, no, bro,

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Speaker 1: that's open you have. I would say Arch is not

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Speaker 1: yet an anticipatory thrower. He has to see something absolutely open. Well,

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Speaker 1: that's not the NFL. And to be honest, when you

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Speaker 1: play Ohio State, you have to be an anticipatory thrower.

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Speaker 1: Because Ohio State's got first round draft picks on that defense.

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Speaker 8: We're not saying he's cooked. He can still turn it

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Speaker 8: around anybody.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, but he's just not. You can see it. It's

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Speaker 3: not it's not, it's just plotting.

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Speaker 8: He's not there yet.

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Speaker 9: Final story, Colin is the Major League Baseball Playoffs. The

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Speaker 9: AO Playoffs have been electric, except if you're a Yankees fan.

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Speaker 9: The Blue Jays have scored twenty three runs in two games, brutal.

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Speaker 9: The scene in Seattle last night was really good. Mariners

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Speaker 9: won their first playoff home game since two thousand and one.

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Speaker 3: Crowd was nuts.

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Speaker 8: Yeah, crowd was going bonkers.

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Speaker 9: Today we get the Dodgers versus the Phillies on TBS,

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Speaker 9: Cubs Brewers on TBS, and then tomorrow on Fox. These

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Speaker 9: are the big ones Mariners, Tigers, and Blue Jays. Yankees,

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Speaker 9: Yankees are desperate, must win.

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Speaker 1: Look at those old throwback Mariner uniforms.

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Speaker 8: Yeah.

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Speaker 3: I don't go to eBay nostalgic about the Baron.

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Speaker 1: Well, it was my favorite team growing up. I can

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Speaker 1: literally know I go. I went to the opener at

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Speaker 1: the Kingdome against the Angels in nineteen seventy seven.

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Speaker 3: I can give you the starting lineup now.

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Speaker 8: I think we're good on that.

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Speaker 3: No, I got it, Bob.

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Speaker 1: Stintson, then Danny Meyer, Jose Biaz, Craig Reynolds, Bill Stein,

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Speaker 1: Diego Sagie pitched, Rupert two P.

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Speaker 3: Jones and center.

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Speaker 8: Oh right, the producers A Jona Roberts.

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Speaker 9: Get him out of this stop now, please joke keep going,

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Speaker 9: go on, come on.

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Speaker 8: Who's the dh did.

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Speaker 3: They Yeah, Lee Stanton, Oh wonderful. And they pitched.

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Speaker 1: They faced Frank Tanana, Bobby Gritch, Joe Rudy or the Angels. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: Joe Rudy Homer to left field. I was in right field,

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Speaker 1: way up top of the stadium, the back then now

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Speaker 1: you're in the regul When I see those old Mariner uniforms,

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Speaker 1: that was my first team. I listened. They were on

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Speaker 1: kV I in Seattle. I listened every day. I want

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Speaker 1: to be a baseball announcer. So I read that our

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Speaker 1: team was terrible. We had a terrible staff. We had

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Speaker 1: a guy named Enrique Romo who went to the Pirates.

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Speaker 1: He was our number one, he was our number two starter.

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Speaker 1: He was Okay, anyway, I know I'm boring all of you,

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Speaker 1: but you know when you're it was nineteen seventy seven,

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Speaker 1: so I'm like a thirteen year old kid and I

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Speaker 1: lived for the Mariners.

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Speaker 3: I mean I listened every night.

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Speaker 9: Games on FS one Tomorrow, Blue Jays, Yankees.

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Speaker 8: That's way more important than your marriage.

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Speaker 1: Well right, I'm gonna tell you they're gonna blame Aaron Boone,

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Speaker 1: but you got to get people.

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Speaker 9: You see the meme about Aaron Boone, like if he

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Speaker 9: didn't hit a home run against the Red Sox, he'd

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Speaker 9: be coaching the Savannah Bananas. That it's kind of funny.

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Speaker 9: I lacked on my line.

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Speaker 1: Well, the Boone family, Bob Brett and that was the

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Speaker 1: highlight of his career. I mean as a player, I

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Speaker 1: just don't I think the Yankees are. They don't sacrifice,

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Speaker 1: they don't do small ball, bullpen, shaky, home run reliant.

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Speaker 1: I mean, they've spent a lot of money on this team,

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Speaker 1: and they they are completely reliant on John Carlos Stanton.

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Speaker 1: First of all, Garrett Cole got hurt before the season,

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Speaker 1: So you're not winning a World Series. I mean, if

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Speaker 1: you go to the games against the Dodgers in the

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Speaker 1: series last year when Cole didn't pitch, they looked totally out.

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Speaker 8: He can win three straight. It's the Blue Jays, Okay.

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Speaker 1: No, the Yankees. Let's be fair. I don't have it

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Speaker 1: in front of me. The Yankees have dominated the American

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Speaker 1: League Central. Take away the American League Central in the

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Speaker 1: last ten years. In the playoffs, didn't.

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Speaker 3: Dominate, i'd be blue. Jays are pretty good.

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Speaker 2: J Mack with a new Well, that's the news, and

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Speaker 2: thanks for stopping by the herd line there.

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Speaker 3: It is interesting.

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Speaker 1: Giants awful, Jets, awful, Knicks fire their coach, Mets flail

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Speaker 1: and you know, everybody beats up on Aaron Boone. But

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Speaker 1: the Yankees are the most successful team in New York

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Speaker 1: sports of the majors by far, and they're the team

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Speaker 1: that doesn't fire anybody. So they're the one team they're

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Speaker 1: never in chaos their front office, Brian Cashman, Aaron Boone,

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Speaker 1: they don't. They've only had three managers I think in

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Speaker 1: like thirty years.

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Speaker 3: They don't. They kept Joe Tory forever.

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Speaker 1: So the yank you know, Yankee haters and Yankee critics

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Speaker 1: all want everybody to fire it. Well, then you'd be

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Speaker 1: the Jets and the Giants, and the Knicks and the

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Speaker 1: Mets and the that's not the Yankees. The Yankees are patient,

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Speaker 1: like the Dodgers. They wanted to run Dave Roberts out

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Speaker 1: of town boom. He wins this year. Everybody, well, they

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Speaker 1: don't have any energy. When when you win your division

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Speaker 1: every year, it's it's a marathon. Dodgers have a chance

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Speaker 1: tonight to go up to nothing on the Phillies, and I, honestly,

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Speaker 1: I thought the Phillies would win the series because I

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Speaker 1: didn't trust the Dodgers bullpen. But these these baseball seasons

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Speaker 1: are long, and a big part of making it work

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Speaker 1: is your ability. Aaron Boone very pro player, Dave Roberts Dodgers,

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Speaker 1: very pro player. You can't you know, Larry Bowle was

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Speaker 1: a great player. He tried to manage, wear guys out.

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Speaker 1: You got to get along with people. You got to

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Speaker 1: get along with your players. When you have double think

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Speaker 1: about this, between spring training and the regular season, you

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Speaker 1: make the playoffs, you're two hundred games in that. That's

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Speaker 1: just the two hundred days you're with your players. What

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Speaker 1: about the what about the days you don't have a

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Speaker 1: game and you're with the players. You know, you're with

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Speaker 1: the players seventy five percent of the year. You got

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Speaker 1: to get.

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Speaker 3: Along with him.

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Speaker 1: And Aaron Boone is very players love him.

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Speaker 3: It's the Herd.

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Speaker 2: Be sure to catch live editions of The Herd weekdays

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Speaker 2: and newon Easter not a em Pacific on Fox Sports

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Speaker 2: Radio FS one and the iHeartRadio app.

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Speaker 3: So Drew Bleedzoe stopped by.

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Speaker 1: He was a teammate one year of Mike Frable and

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Speaker 1: he was talking about Vrabel was like, just just go,

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Speaker 1: go go, and Drew said, he and Vrabel, who's now

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Speaker 1: coaching the Patriots they beat the Bills last night, connected

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Speaker 1: very quickly.

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Speaker 4: It's not a surprise to me or to anybody that

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Speaker 4: knows Mike that he's had great success as a coach.

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Speaker 4: You know, one funny thing about Mike is he just

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Speaker 4: had so damn much energy as a player. You know,

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Speaker 4: he would you know, in the middle of practice he

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Speaker 4: would go run scout team, kickoff coverage just to burn

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Speaker 4: off some energy.

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Speaker 5: I've I've compared him.

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Speaker 4: To like a like a labrador, you know, like you

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Speaker 4: like you got to run him.

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Speaker 3: Yeah.

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Speaker 1: And I will say this, look at the Jets and

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Speaker 1: look at New England, both the coaches. I would say

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Speaker 1: the Jets, Aaron Glenn inherited more talent than New England.

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Speaker 1: And look at what Aaron Glenn's done. And look at

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Speaker 1: what Vrabel's done. I mean, it's it's a it's a

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Speaker 1: really good team. And I think, you know, Drake May

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Speaker 1: at Carolina he's a hit. Bon Nicks is a hit.

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Speaker 1: Jaden Daniels is a hit. I think Caleb to some

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Speaker 1: level is gonna hit. Here's Matt how Back earlier on

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Speaker 1: the young Drake May.

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Speaker 8: They drafted Drake May for a reason.

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Speaker 10: They wanted their own version of Josh Allen and like

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Speaker 10: that doesn't really exist, but they saw something with the

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Speaker 10: third pick overall in that draft and they said, you

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Speaker 10: know what, we think that this guy could be that.

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Speaker 5: You know, they tried.

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Speaker 10: The Mac Jones thing and they were like, yeah, you're good,

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Speaker 10: but you're not Josh Allen. We're looking for Josh Allen

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Speaker 10: and we'll take the risk for the upside. And I

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Speaker 10: think Drake May has everybody in New England fired up.

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Speaker 3: Well.

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Speaker 1: I also think, you know, one of the real advantages

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Speaker 1: is Drake May is big with a good arm. Go

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Speaker 1: look at northern quarterbacks, quarterbacks that play in cold weather.

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Speaker 1: You know, Sam Darnold's got a big arm. He's up

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Speaker 1: in Seattle, right and if Green Bay generally Jordan Love,

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Speaker 1: Aaron Rodgers far big Arms, Mahomes Kansas City, big Arm,

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Speaker 1: Josh Allen, Jim Kelly Studs in Buffalo, big Arm, Eli Manning,

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Speaker 1: Big Arm in New York.

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Speaker 3: So Drake Made's a big kid.

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Speaker 1: I mean, Joe Flacco had success in Baltimore, Big Ben

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Speaker 1: had success in Pittsburgh. Like when you you know, when

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Speaker 1: you look around and you're drafting a guy, you have

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Speaker 1: to consider that. In the AFC, you know who's your quarterback. Again,

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Speaker 1: you want to get a guy like bow Nicks in Denver.

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Speaker 1: It gets cold, but it's usually pretty brute brilliant until Thanksgiving,

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Speaker 1: beautiful weather. Bow Nicks got a good arm, so, uh

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Speaker 1: you you can get away with some of that stuff.

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Speaker 1: A smaller guy like a Bryce Young didn't have a

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Speaker 1: huge arm. It's in Carolina or like in Atlanta, because

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Speaker 1: you're playing indoors in a dome in the NFC South.

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Speaker 1: But Drake may looks the part. I did ask a

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Speaker 1: couple of guests about the I just I don't even

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Speaker 1: know what to do with it.

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Speaker 3: I'm watching that fumble. I watched it live. The running

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Speaker 3: back for Arizona, like the third string running back who

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Speaker 3: got a chance. De Murcata de Mercado it's a third

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Speaker 3: string running back. He gets a chance to play. Bad

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Speaker 3: team tames like Arizona don't get seventy yard rushing touchdowns.

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Speaker 3: They open up this huge hole. He burst through it.

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Speaker 3: I just don't know what you're thinking. I think it's

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Speaker 3: like performative. I'm gonna try to be cool. But it's

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Speaker 3: just now some argue that he had reached the goal line.

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Speaker 3: I thought it was. I thought it was go either way.

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Speaker 1: I almost think, you know, if I was an official,

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Speaker 1: I wouldn't have a lot of sympathy for showing it.

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Speaker 8: It doesn't matter.

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Speaker 9: Don't leave it up to replay or certain angles or official.

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Speaker 8: No, just score the touchdown.

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Speaker 1: Ad Mitchell did the same thing last week. He's showing off.

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Speaker 1: It's just like bro and like this guy never scored

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Speaker 1: an I think maybe he has an nffore.

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Speaker 8: He's like a third down back. But this was essentially

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Speaker 8: the game.

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Speaker 1: Oh no, no, they see Arizona wins the game last week.

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Speaker 1: Ad Mitchell, who, by the way, mostly got he only

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Speaker 1: played six snaps yesterday in a blowout. So the Colts

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Speaker 1: coaches clearly and this I thought that was the game

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Speaker 1: for the Rams. I thought the Rams were in big trouble, Like, dude,

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Speaker 1: what are you doing looking back? Just get to the

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Speaker 1: end zone.

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Speaker 9: So the other problem coling with Arizona, like they could

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Speaker 9: have been a playoff team this year.

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Speaker 8: Okay, they now have that brutal loss to the Niners

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Speaker 8: when they should have been they should have beaten Okay,

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Speaker 8: and now you have this loss of.

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Speaker 9: The winless Titans. You can't fall behind in that division,

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Speaker 9: Rams Niners. Wait till the Niners get healthy. They're gonna

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Speaker 9: just run away and hide. And we both agree Seattle's

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Speaker 9: a pretty damn good team. So I you don't want

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Speaker 9: to write someone off, but you couldn't put it that

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Speaker 9: play that could decide their season. Oh that's serious.

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Speaker 3: I don't think there's any question that that could decide

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Speaker 3: their season. You can't lose.

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Speaker 1: You can't punt a game at home. I'm not Quarterbacks

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Speaker 1: make mistakes. People fumble, like, I don't get worked up

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Speaker 1: over it.

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Speaker 8: Now.

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Speaker 1: If you do have a fumble issue, Kyron Williams of

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Speaker 1: the Rams, you got to clean it up. Kicky Barbara

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Speaker 1: out a fumble issue for years. He cleaned it up.

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Speaker 1: But this stuff I have no patience for. People will say,

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Speaker 1: like Jimmy Johnson would cut you for that.

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Speaker 9: Yeah, listen the Cardinals, they ended up like there was

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Speaker 9: a flukey play with the interception that was fumbled and

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Speaker 9: recovered in the end zone, and then they had they had,

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Speaker 9: you know, three downs to get a first down and

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Speaker 9: maybe milk the clock, and Jonathan Gannon ran into the

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Speaker 9: line of scrimmage three times. They say, oh, well, punt

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Speaker 9: it to cam Ward. He's not going to do anything,

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Speaker 9: and you got beat. I'm off Arizona. I mean, we've

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Speaker 9: talked about coaches getting fired, whether it's McDaniel callahan, I

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Speaker 9: think Jonathan Gennon probably gets put in.

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Speaker 3: You.

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Speaker 1: No, it's a bummer though, because it's not a it's

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Speaker 1: not one of the better ownership situations. You're in a

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Speaker 1: tough division, you're losing games like that. I watched them

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Speaker 1: play San Francisco and I thought they gave Kyle Shanahan trouble.

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Speaker 1: I thought they I thought, I think Gannon can coach

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Speaker 1: when I watch them. You know, it's for years and

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Speaker 1: years people were beating up on Chris Balderd with the

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Speaker 1: Colts the gym. I take away as I'm watching the games,

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Speaker 1: they just need a quarterback.

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Speaker 3: You get them.

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Speaker 1: Daniel Jones and it's like, and we don't even think

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Speaker 1: Daniel Jones is great. Colts are going to win that

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Speaker 1: division going away. I have the right pieces as a

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Speaker 1: coach or a GM