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Speaker 8: Well, there must have been some point where you got emotional.

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Speaker 8: But a lawyer without capital case experience was not their

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Speaker 8: The offer was life without parole, a lot for a

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Speaker 8: According to Kelly Gleeson, Talman did not spend much time

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Speaker 3: On March twenty ninth, nineteen ninety six, after just ninety

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Speaker 1: Well, I remember thinking, the defense has not got a

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Speaker 11: She was shuffled between.

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Speaker 11: Her father beat her so badly with a belt and

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Speaker 4: She was emotionally abused.

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Speaker 11: Her mom cared more about alcohol and the man in

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Speaker 3: There was seldom food in the house. Christa's bed didn't

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Speaker 11: She was sexually molested by her grandmother's boyfriend.

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Speaker 11: Because of that molestation, she was going to school drawing

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Speaker 11: And you know she wasn't yetting counseling, when if that

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Speaker 3: Christo was sexually assaulted again when she was eleven. She

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Speaker 3: year later, when she was twelve, Christa attempted suicide for

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Speaker 10: There's a story that I don't know why this one

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Speaker 3: This is Steve Ferrell again, another of Krista's attorneys.

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Speaker 10: There's an episode where her father has her and he's

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Speaker 3: Christo was around ten or twelve when this happened. She

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Speaker 10: So he drives her from West Virginia down to North

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Speaker 4: She's alone. She's just alone.

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Speaker 10: Yeah, she's completely alone, navigating this world with mental health

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Speaker 3: Teachers, her parents, others who knew Christa as a child

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Speaker 11: She didn't know what was wrong with her, but even

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Speaker 3: When Christa arrived at Job Corps in the summer of

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Speaker 4: She said her.

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Speaker 3: Favorite food was pizza, and that she she wanted to

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Speaker 11: She wanted to be a nurse. She wanted to make

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Speaker 3: The portrait psychologist Diana McCoy crafted of Christa was of

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Speaker 4: But that never happened.

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Speaker 11: She was going to be the sole witness. That was

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Speaker 3: The night before the trial that all changed. McCoy was

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Speaker 11: There are discrepant stories about why that decision was made,

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Speaker 3: Trial instead Chris's lawyer decided to call three witnesses, Christa's mother, father,

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Speaker 5: I should be the one in hersy not for her.

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Speaker 5: I should be the one to be punished for this crab,

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Speaker 3: This is Christ's mother, Carissa Hansen testifying, trying a bit

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Speaker 9: In that penalty phase.

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Speaker 10: Was not a single positive thing about Krista.

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Speaker 9: It was all what a problem she was.

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Speaker 10: They didn't see kind of the root of the problems.

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Speaker 10: We didn't have anyone to connect the dots. You need

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Speaker 9: Things happen to her. And that's not an excuse.

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Speaker 10: It never is an excuse, But it's a reason to

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Speaker 9: That's the role of mitigation.

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Speaker 3: Reporter John North confirms that their testimony did little to

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Speaker 1: What was the appropriate punishment for a crime of this nature?

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Speaker 1: The utter taking, slaughter, torture of an innocent human being

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Speaker 3: All good questions, but it was the job of Chris's

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Speaker 10: He had her sign a release giving him the media

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Speaker 3: After Chris's conviction, Her lawyer, Bill Palman, had christ to

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Speaker 3: Ultimately, the jury was not persuaded to spare Christa's life.

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Speaker 4: She was sentenced to.

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Speaker 3: The electric chair for killing Colleen and sent to the

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