1 00:00:02,800 --> 00:00:03,680 Speaker 1: Hey, man, what's your name? 2 00:00:04,480 --> 00:00:06,320 Speaker 2: I prefer you call me the Buddha or. 3 00:00:06,280 --> 00:00:12,640 Speaker 1: Buddha Buddha, the famous guy from that religion. What's going on? 4 00:00:15,280 --> 00:00:21,120 Speaker 2: Well, I've been doing uh, quite a bit of nicrosocifide 5 00:00:21,160 --> 00:00:27,319 Speaker 2: the last few months, and you know, I thought, I thought, 6 00:00:27,320 --> 00:00:30,800 Speaker 2: I should, you know, stop and you know, for because 7 00:00:30,800 --> 00:00:33,760 Speaker 2: it's really not that great for you or whatever. But 8 00:00:34,400 --> 00:00:38,800 Speaker 2: and it's expensive as well. But you know, and I 9 00:00:38,840 --> 00:00:40,720 Speaker 2: was kind of scared because I was having these weird 10 00:00:40,760 --> 00:00:46,240 Speaker 2: illucinations and stuff, and I, uh, but I just kept 11 00:00:46,320 --> 00:00:48,000 Speaker 2: doing it because it feels really good. 12 00:00:48,520 --> 00:00:49,120 Speaker 3: And then. 13 00:00:50,479 --> 00:00:55,440 Speaker 2: I I just like kept pushing myself that limit where 14 00:00:55,440 --> 00:01:01,160 Speaker 2: I was having these complete dysphoric hallucinations, and I sort 15 00:01:01,200 --> 00:01:05,319 Speaker 2: of realized that, you know, there was like a deeper 16 00:01:05,400 --> 00:01:09,560 Speaker 2: meaning to it and that I was basically when I 17 00:01:09,600 --> 00:01:13,240 Speaker 2: was doing that, I was like essentially like destroying my ego. 18 00:01:13,360 --> 00:01:16,560 Speaker 2: Like I wasn't even a part of my own reality 19 00:01:16,600 --> 00:01:18,800 Speaker 2: and my own body. 20 00:01:19,920 --> 00:01:23,360 Speaker 1: Uh that's now nitros. That's like the balloon ship, right. 21 00:01:24,920 --> 00:01:27,520 Speaker 2: Yeah, it's a gas. Yeah, you fill up balloons with it. 22 00:01:28,000 --> 00:01:29,600 Speaker 1: What kinds of things were you hallucinating? 23 00:01:31,360 --> 00:01:37,440 Speaker 2: All sorts of things. I was like shifting into other 24 00:01:37,680 --> 00:01:43,399 Speaker 2: entities and being like godlike figures and demonic figures, and 25 00:01:44,120 --> 00:01:47,920 Speaker 2: seeing like the speed of time and crease and decrease 26 00:01:48,040 --> 00:01:52,400 Speaker 2: and drink and very small sizes and grow very large 27 00:01:52,440 --> 00:01:56,160 Speaker 2: and become like part of the universe, and she starts 28 00:01:56,240 --> 00:01:59,600 Speaker 2: being born all sart the crazy. So anyways, I was 29 00:01:59,600 --> 00:02:02,200 Speaker 2: seeing all this stuff, and I was really afraid of 30 00:02:02,240 --> 00:02:06,880 Speaker 2: it at first, and then you know, I kind of 31 00:02:06,920 --> 00:02:10,840 Speaker 2: realized what I was seeing was, you know, that my 32 00:02:10,919 --> 00:02:16,560 Speaker 2: ego was basically like leaving my body temporarily, and I 33 00:02:16,560 --> 00:02:19,000 Speaker 2: don't know, I feel like it's like almost like changing 34 00:02:19,040 --> 00:02:22,080 Speaker 2: my life because I've had like all these perspective shifts 35 00:02:22,120 --> 00:02:28,119 Speaker 2: and like, you know, I call myself Buddha because that's 36 00:02:28,480 --> 00:02:35,359 Speaker 2: what people of that religion or that lifestyle they that's 37 00:02:35,400 --> 00:02:39,120 Speaker 2: what they believe, that that we're not just our body, 38 00:02:39,160 --> 00:02:45,680 Speaker 2: were a part of everything essentially. And I've been doing 39 00:02:45,680 --> 00:02:48,320 Speaker 2: all these things I never thought I could do, Like 40 00:02:49,440 --> 00:02:54,280 Speaker 2: started working out, started painting, I built a bow out 41 00:02:54,320 --> 00:03:01,800 Speaker 2: of a stick in the woods. I I I'm learning Spanish, 42 00:03:02,120 --> 00:03:03,320 Speaker 2: all sorts of crazy shit. 43 00:03:04,200 --> 00:03:06,880 Speaker 1: These are all things you're doing because you became addicted 44 00:03:06,919 --> 00:03:07,920 Speaker 1: to the nitrosoxide. 45 00:03:11,400 --> 00:03:15,240 Speaker 2: Well not really, because of the addiction to the nitrosox side, 46 00:03:15,280 --> 00:03:17,880 Speaker 2: but because of the visions I had from it. 47 00:03:18,000 --> 00:03:20,160 Speaker 1: You know, what was it about the visions that you 48 00:03:20,200 --> 00:03:23,560 Speaker 1: had that caused you to do all these productive things? 49 00:03:27,960 --> 00:03:33,000 Speaker 2: Well, basically I never thought that my mind was capable 50 00:03:33,040 --> 00:03:37,880 Speaker 2: of producing those kinds of things, you know, Like the 51 00:03:37,960 --> 00:03:41,560 Speaker 2: things I saw were incredible, Like, I never I never 52 00:03:41,600 --> 00:03:44,040 Speaker 2: thought it was possible from my mind to like imagine 53 00:03:44,080 --> 00:03:48,000 Speaker 2: those things basically, So I sort of realized that, you know, 54 00:03:48,120 --> 00:03:50,160 Speaker 2: my potential is really like limitless. 55 00:03:51,560 --> 00:03:54,200 Speaker 1: So have you stopped doing nitrosoxide or are you still 56 00:03:54,240 --> 00:03:56,680 Speaker 1: doing it a lot? Hmmm? 57 00:03:56,840 --> 00:04:00,320 Speaker 2: I wouldn't say a lot. I do it maybe once week. 58 00:04:02,200 --> 00:04:04,400 Speaker 1: Do you feel like, do you feel like you have 59 00:04:04,480 --> 00:04:05,440 Speaker 1: it under control? 60 00:04:07,240 --> 00:04:15,520 Speaker 2: M I mean it's a matter of perspective, I guess, 61 00:04:16,000 --> 00:04:19,160 Speaker 2: you know, like some people think it's not really under 62 00:04:19,160 --> 00:04:19,920 Speaker 2: control if you're. 63 00:04:19,760 --> 00:04:27,080 Speaker 1: Doing it at all, Right, Yeah, I think so. I 64 00:04:27,080 --> 00:04:28,560 Speaker 1: think that that's the way you could look at it. 65 00:04:28,839 --> 00:04:30,760 Speaker 1: Do you want to stop doing nitrous oxide? 66 00:04:34,760 --> 00:04:37,000 Speaker 2: I think I just I would like to try to 67 00:04:37,080 --> 00:04:41,640 Speaker 2: find a way to reach that level of enlightenment without it. 68 00:04:41,800 --> 00:04:46,640 Speaker 1: You know, I've always really felt like, you know, I'm 69 00:04:46,640 --> 00:04:49,240 Speaker 1: gonna probably get some heat for this, but whatever, I 70 00:04:49,279 --> 00:04:54,120 Speaker 1: always have felt like, you, really, you don't need to 71 00:04:54,520 --> 00:04:58,000 Speaker 1: go to Peru and do ayahuasca or take a shit 72 00:04:58,080 --> 00:05:01,880 Speaker 1: ton of mushrooms or an acid or do a bunch 73 00:05:01,880 --> 00:05:05,320 Speaker 1: of nrous oxide to like have epiphanies that help you 74 00:05:05,360 --> 00:05:10,080 Speaker 1: improve your life. I don't think that that's necessary. It's 75 00:05:10,240 --> 00:05:15,120 Speaker 1: and it's unfortunate, right, Like I really, the few times 76 00:05:15,120 --> 00:05:19,000 Speaker 1: I've done mushrooms, I really want, like I wanted so 77 00:05:19,320 --> 00:05:22,520 Speaker 1: badly for there to be a thing I could eat 78 00:05:23,040 --> 00:05:27,599 Speaker 1: that would improve my life. And it's just not true. 79 00:05:27,600 --> 00:05:29,800 Speaker 1: The only thing that actually improves my life is like 80 00:05:30,520 --> 00:05:35,479 Speaker 1: fucking doing shit, you know what I mean? Yeah, And 81 00:05:35,560 --> 00:05:42,640 Speaker 1: I guess I guess that like nitrous oxide and acid 82 00:05:42,720 --> 00:05:45,360 Speaker 1: and I watch whatever these things. I guess these things 83 00:05:45,360 --> 00:05:50,440 Speaker 1: can be like catalysts that inspire you to do shit 84 00:05:51,120 --> 00:05:53,599 Speaker 1: to change your life. But at the end of the day, 85 00:05:53,440 --> 00:05:55,840 Speaker 1: they don't actually do anything for you. It's the actual 86 00:05:55,920 --> 00:05:59,560 Speaker 1: things that you're doing, the learning Spanish, the fucking all 87 00:05:59,600 --> 00:06:01,799 Speaker 1: the other thing things you said that are actually improving 88 00:06:01,800 --> 00:06:03,680 Speaker 1: your life. And then those things have nothing to do 89 00:06:03,800 --> 00:06:09,240 Speaker 1: with the nitrous oxide. They're just you making decisions to 90 00:06:09,320 --> 00:06:10,600 Speaker 1: make your life better. 91 00:06:12,360 --> 00:06:15,400 Speaker 2: Right, But I feel like when I shattered my ego 92 00:06:15,520 --> 00:06:18,080 Speaker 2: like that, it's easier to make decisions like that. 93 00:06:19,640 --> 00:06:22,400 Speaker 1: So if your ego is shattered already, why do you feel. 94 00:06:22,240 --> 00:06:27,600 Speaker 2: Like it's only shattered in those moments? And then, well, 95 00:06:27,600 --> 00:06:32,560 Speaker 2: if I can literally see see my perspective of reality 96 00:06:33,200 --> 00:06:38,360 Speaker 2: shifting back into focus, what. 97 00:06:38,320 --> 00:06:40,720 Speaker 1: Do you mean by it's only shattered in those moments? 98 00:06:41,920 --> 00:06:47,840 Speaker 2: Well, I mean those visions only last like maybe five 99 00:06:47,920 --> 00:06:48,799 Speaker 2: seconds at most. 100 00:06:51,160 --> 00:06:52,839 Speaker 1: It doesn't sound particularly helpful. 101 00:06:55,279 --> 00:06:55,679 Speaker 4: Mmmm. 102 00:06:57,560 --> 00:07:02,000 Speaker 2: Well, I mean it's hard to explain. Really, you know, 103 00:07:02,200 --> 00:07:05,640 Speaker 2: it's I feel like the visions are kind of like 104 00:07:06,960 --> 00:07:11,720 Speaker 2: are shattering in a way because they removed my entire consciousness. 105 00:07:11,960 --> 00:07:18,080 Speaker 1: You know, have you ever spoken to a real therapist 106 00:07:18,120 --> 00:07:18,720 Speaker 1: about any of this? 107 00:07:20,640 --> 00:07:27,960 Speaker 2: No, I'm trying to I basically, I I you know, 108 00:07:28,000 --> 00:07:31,080 Speaker 2: I was trying to get one, but I called a 109 00:07:31,160 --> 00:07:33,480 Speaker 2: couple of months ago and they said they would reach 110 00:07:33,520 --> 00:07:35,920 Speaker 2: back to me when one was available, and I still haven't. 111 00:07:38,840 --> 00:07:40,280 Speaker 1: I mean, look, man, I think it's great that you're 112 00:07:40,280 --> 00:07:43,160 Speaker 1: doing things to improve your life, and I, for whatever 113 00:07:43,200 --> 00:07:45,080 Speaker 1: it's worth, I really don't think that you need to. 114 00:07:46,120 --> 00:07:49,840 Speaker 1: You know, the nitrous oxide was necessarily a part of it. 115 00:07:49,840 --> 00:07:55,520 Speaker 1: It's like I'm trying to think of crap. I can't 116 00:07:55,520 --> 00:07:58,240 Speaker 1: think of an example. But there's like all these cartoons 117 00:07:58,840 --> 00:08:01,280 Speaker 1: that I can think of, where like, you know, someone 118 00:08:01,480 --> 00:08:05,480 Speaker 1: gets like a magical power and it inspires them to 119 00:08:05,600 --> 00:08:08,600 Speaker 1: like go save the day. You don't I'm fucking talking about. 120 00:08:08,800 --> 00:08:11,480 Speaker 1: But then but then at the end of it's revealed 121 00:08:11,520 --> 00:08:13,960 Speaker 1: that they actually never had any magical power. It was 122 00:08:13,960 --> 00:08:18,720 Speaker 1: all just a placebo, and it was actually them themselves 123 00:08:19,080 --> 00:08:22,200 Speaker 1: who saved the day all of their own volition. You know, 124 00:08:22,320 --> 00:08:26,400 Speaker 1: that's you with nitrous oxide, right, Like you're the one 125 00:08:26,520 --> 00:08:29,679 Speaker 1: who's doing all these things to protect it, to improve 126 00:08:29,720 --> 00:08:33,600 Speaker 1: your life. You're the one. It's not it's And you 127 00:08:33,640 --> 00:08:37,400 Speaker 1: can go on Reddit and you can type a whole 128 00:08:37,480 --> 00:08:40,200 Speaker 1: trip report about how all the you know, you took 129 00:08:41,000 --> 00:08:43,120 Speaker 1: acid and it made you clean your room, but at 130 00:08:43,120 --> 00:08:45,120 Speaker 1: the end of the day, you cleaned your room. Right, 131 00:08:45,480 --> 00:08:52,360 Speaker 1: it's not this. I don't don't attribute it to the drug. 132 00:08:52,400 --> 00:08:55,040 Speaker 1: It was you who did it, and it is you 133 00:08:55,080 --> 00:08:56,400 Speaker 1: who can continue to do it. 134 00:08:58,040 --> 00:09:01,280 Speaker 2: Sure, I just feel like, you know, without it, it's 135 00:09:01,320 --> 00:09:05,120 Speaker 2: hard for me to have that kind of clarity, especially 136 00:09:05,200 --> 00:09:08,760 Speaker 2: I would say, I mean, this is probably just an excuse, 137 00:09:08,880 --> 00:09:12,120 Speaker 2: but my whole life. I have what I would consider 138 00:09:12,160 --> 00:09:15,600 Speaker 2: to be like very extreme ADHD that manifests in the mind, 139 00:09:15,920 --> 00:09:18,720 Speaker 2: so it's very hard to control my thoughts, you know, 140 00:09:20,200 --> 00:09:21,520 Speaker 2: have that impulse control. 141 00:09:25,160 --> 00:09:30,480 Speaker 1: Brother, If if if I were you, and I really 142 00:09:32,040 --> 00:09:34,439 Speaker 1: a man, if I were you, man I would really 143 00:09:34,480 --> 00:09:37,840 Speaker 1: go out in search of like legitimate professional ways to 144 00:09:38,640 --> 00:09:42,880 Speaker 1: manage your ADHD instead of self medicating with nitrous oxide. 145 00:09:43,559 --> 00:09:48,320 Speaker 1: You know that that can help me. You know, there's 146 00:09:48,480 --> 00:09:50,600 Speaker 1: there's better ways to manage this. This is what I'm saying. 147 00:09:51,240 --> 00:09:53,920 Speaker 2: Well, yeah, but you know I took all those drugs 148 00:09:53,920 --> 00:09:56,240 Speaker 2: when I was a kid and they didn't really help. 149 00:09:56,320 --> 00:09:56,520 Speaker 2: You know. 150 00:09:59,480 --> 00:10:01,480 Speaker 1: I can't. I I can't give you anything more than that, man, 151 00:10:01,559 --> 00:10:06,199 Speaker 1: I really, I really can't. I think you gotta like 152 00:10:06,200 --> 00:10:08,920 Speaker 1: like you gotta you and at the end of the day, 153 00:10:08,920 --> 00:10:13,719 Speaker 1: man like you gotta you gotta want to stop doing this, 154 00:10:14,520 --> 00:10:16,800 Speaker 1: you know, And if you don't, then there's nothing I 155 00:10:16,840 --> 00:10:19,840 Speaker 1: can say to you that'll make you stop. But if 156 00:10:20,000 --> 00:10:22,560 Speaker 1: if you want to, then you should go, you know, 157 00:10:22,640 --> 00:10:24,400 Speaker 1: talk to a professional about how you can manage your 158 00:10:24,400 --> 00:10:27,240 Speaker 1: ADHD in a way that's not going to like kill you. 159 00:10:27,480 --> 00:10:30,320 Speaker 1: But give yourself some credit for the self improvement that 160 00:10:30,360 --> 00:10:34,760 Speaker 1: you've done on yourself thus far. Don't don't hand it 161 00:10:34,800 --> 00:10:37,480 Speaker 1: over to the nitrosoxs head. The nitrosox side didn't fucking 162 00:10:37,520 --> 00:10:41,560 Speaker 1: do anything for you. It was all you who did 163 00:10:41,600 --> 00:10:44,280 Speaker 1: all the various things in your life that are causing 164 00:10:44,280 --> 00:10:45,920 Speaker 1: you to improve. And I think it will continue to 165 00:10:45,920 --> 00:10:49,360 Speaker 1: be you who does that. But what the fuck do 166 00:10:49,480 --> 00:10:52,560 Speaker 1: I know? I'm a crazy person in a gecko who 167 00:10:53,040 --> 00:10:55,920 Speaker 1: accidentally started a self help show. 168 00:10:58,000 --> 00:10:59,920 Speaker 2: Can I tell you why I like your show? 169 00:11:00,920 --> 00:11:01,160 Speaker 1: Sure? 170 00:11:02,960 --> 00:11:07,000 Speaker 2: Well? I think the lizard costume is is very good 171 00:11:07,040 --> 00:11:11,360 Speaker 2: because the therapist is supposed to be non judgmental, and 172 00:11:11,400 --> 00:11:13,800 Speaker 2: how can you be judgmental when your dress is a 173 00:11:13,840 --> 00:11:14,160 Speaker 2: get go. 174 00:11:19,000 --> 00:11:19,240 Speaker 3: Right? 175 00:11:21,160 --> 00:11:24,720 Speaker 1: I guess that's true. I guess that's true. What's your 176 00:11:24,800 --> 00:11:25,240 Speaker 1: name again? 177 00:11:26,320 --> 00:11:26,880 Speaker 2: A Buddha? 178 00:11:27,440 --> 00:11:28,760 Speaker 1: Budh? Is there anything else you want to say to 179 00:11:28,800 --> 00:11:30,120 Speaker 1: the people of the computer before we go? 180 00:11:31,559 --> 00:11:31,959 Speaker 3: Uh? 181 00:11:32,160 --> 00:11:34,600 Speaker 2: No, thank you very much, Lyle. I appreciate your call 182 00:11:34,640 --> 00:11:36,360 Speaker 2: it very much and the opportunity to talk to you. 183 00:11:36,960 --> 00:11:39,400 Speaker 1: Thank you, Buddha, good luck, and Jesus Christ, stop doing 184 00:11:39,400 --> 00:11:40,760 Speaker 1: so much nicsrous oxide. 185 00:11:41,320 --> 00:11:44,839 Speaker 2: All right, have a good one there, Bye bye bye. 186 00:11:46,800 --> 00:11:48,520 Speaker 1: I don't know if I don't know if that was helpful, 187 00:11:48,600 --> 00:11:50,520 Speaker 1: or if that was judgmental or I don't know about 188 00:11:50,520 --> 00:11:54,880 Speaker 1: any of this should I just I don't know what 189 00:11:55,040 --> 00:11:56,720 Speaker 1: I who want I to tell that guy to stop 190 00:11:56,760 --> 00:11:59,040 Speaker 1: doing so much nitrous oxide. You can stop doing so 191 00:11:59,120 --> 00:12:02,600 Speaker 1: much nitrous oxide when I stopped eating fucking cosmic brownies 192 00:12:02,640 --> 00:12:06,960 Speaker 1: and jacking off and smoking weed all day. So, but 193 00:12:07,080 --> 00:12:10,080 Speaker 1: that didn't that didn't do anything for me. I don't 194 00:12:10,080 --> 00:12:11,959 Speaker 1: think it did. I don't think that jacking off and 195 00:12:12,040 --> 00:12:14,720 Speaker 1: smoking weed, eating cosmic brownies all day improved my life 196 00:12:14,760 --> 00:12:16,680 Speaker 1: in any way, shape or form. I don't think that 197 00:12:16,800 --> 00:12:19,280 Speaker 1: him doing nitrous oxide improved his life in any way, 198 00:12:19,280 --> 00:12:21,280 Speaker 1: shape or form. And I believe both of us would 199 00:12:21,280 --> 00:12:23,680 Speaker 1: probably be happier if we didn't do those things. But 200 00:12:23,800 --> 00:12:26,680 Speaker 1: I don't know. I don't know anything, dude, I'm freaking 201 00:12:26,760 --> 00:12:29,920 Speaker 1: out over here. I don't I just don't know. But 202 00:12:31,840 --> 00:12:44,680 Speaker 1: I'm gonna try to know stuff and things. Yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, Hello? 203 00:12:45,600 --> 00:12:46,560 Speaker 1: Hey what's up? Hey? 204 00:12:46,600 --> 00:12:47,360 Speaker 5: How's it going? Hyle? 205 00:12:49,360 --> 00:12:52,280 Speaker 1: It's going okay, man, it's going okay. How can I 206 00:12:52,280 --> 00:12:53,079 Speaker 1: get you to the sir? 207 00:12:54,920 --> 00:12:55,439 Speaker 3: Yeah? 208 00:12:55,480 --> 00:12:59,400 Speaker 5: So, I'm not sure if you read the message that 209 00:12:59,480 --> 00:13:03,240 Speaker 5: I that I put on there, But I used to 210 00:13:03,280 --> 00:13:07,120 Speaker 5: work at it. Well, I had multiple things, but you know, 211 00:13:07,200 --> 00:13:08,760 Speaker 5: I've been hearing a bunch of stuff and I'm like, 212 00:13:08,800 --> 00:13:11,840 Speaker 5: you know what, let's make it funny today. Is that 213 00:13:11,840 --> 00:13:12,360 Speaker 5: all right with you? 214 00:13:13,480 --> 00:13:14,240 Speaker 1: Go ahead? 215 00:13:15,760 --> 00:13:20,880 Speaker 5: So I used to work at a Papa John's. I 216 00:13:20,960 --> 00:13:24,040 Speaker 5: want to say about maybe three I know it's been 217 00:13:24,160 --> 00:13:28,080 Speaker 5: longer than that, actually, probably like six or seven years ago. 218 00:13:29,040 --> 00:13:33,360 Speaker 5: And it was fine, you know, nothing out of the ordinary, 219 00:13:33,440 --> 00:13:38,079 Speaker 5: la la okay, first customers an asshole. Well okay, I'll 220 00:13:38,160 --> 00:13:41,560 Speaker 5: let that one's live, because you know, customer service when 221 00:13:41,559 --> 00:13:44,760 Speaker 5: it comes to delivering peaches, you know, it's not necessarily 222 00:13:44,800 --> 00:13:50,800 Speaker 5: all that glorious. But you know, three, four, five, six 223 00:13:50,880 --> 00:13:54,720 Speaker 5: times I had enough of these people because it's in 224 00:13:54,760 --> 00:13:59,240 Speaker 5: a college town, right, So I was like, you know what, 225 00:14:00,040 --> 00:14:03,200 Speaker 5: probably never going to see these people ever again, So 226 00:14:03,480 --> 00:14:10,200 Speaker 5: I'm just going to violate their pieces. What I mean 227 00:14:10,360 --> 00:14:15,280 Speaker 5: by that, my best friend told me not to tell it, 228 00:14:15,320 --> 00:14:19,560 Speaker 5: but I want to say it anyways. So I violated 229 00:14:19,600 --> 00:14:22,840 Speaker 5: their pieces in a way to where I dun'k my 230 00:14:23,000 --> 00:14:27,240 Speaker 5: nuts on them. And I gave that special sauce before 231 00:14:28,080 --> 00:14:35,320 Speaker 5: keyword special sauce. But it wasn't to anybody who was 232 00:14:36,840 --> 00:14:39,520 Speaker 5: kind to me because it was basically to where it 233 00:14:39,560 --> 00:14:44,720 Speaker 5: was rated if you're nice to us, if you tipped well, 234 00:14:45,440 --> 00:14:48,600 Speaker 5: but that didn't necessarily factor in. It just added points. 235 00:14:49,000 --> 00:14:55,040 Speaker 5: But if it was an individual to where they basically 236 00:14:55,080 --> 00:15:01,000 Speaker 5: mistreated us, you know, demanded their every last cent then 237 00:15:01,320 --> 00:15:04,720 Speaker 5: or just be an absolute dick, then yeah, I would 238 00:15:04,800 --> 00:15:07,680 Speaker 5: do that. And my body saw me one time and 239 00:15:07,720 --> 00:15:12,560 Speaker 5: he's like, are you kidding me? I'm like, I'll give 240 00:15:12,560 --> 00:15:16,120 Speaker 5: you fifty bucks not to say anything. So I actually 241 00:15:16,120 --> 00:15:19,960 Speaker 5: gave him one hundred because he moved out from up 242 00:15:20,000 --> 00:15:23,640 Speaker 5: nore to actually work with me, and he was an 243 00:15:23,680 --> 00:15:26,280 Speaker 5: online friend at the time, but I met him in 244 00:15:26,320 --> 00:15:29,000 Speaker 5: real life and it was amazing. 245 00:15:31,720 --> 00:15:34,680 Speaker 1: So how much would someone have had to tip you 246 00:15:35,480 --> 00:15:38,840 Speaker 1: for you to not wipe your balls on their pizza? 247 00:15:42,480 --> 00:15:45,400 Speaker 5: I would have to say, like maybe one dollar, but 248 00:15:45,720 --> 00:15:47,800 Speaker 5: it's more like the principle of the matter, I would 249 00:15:47,920 --> 00:15:50,240 Speaker 5: I would say, you know, it would fact like if 250 00:15:50,280 --> 00:15:52,640 Speaker 5: it's like one dollar, then he would equal like ten 251 00:15:52,720 --> 00:15:56,600 Speaker 5: points for you, you know, within my system, or if 252 00:15:56,720 --> 00:15:59,960 Speaker 5: even like a penny, but to ask for exact chance 253 00:16:00,600 --> 00:16:02,680 Speaker 5: and a manner's like, oh well, I need to have 254 00:16:02,760 --> 00:16:06,680 Speaker 5: my exact change now, or something like that, and I'm like, sir, 255 00:16:06,760 --> 00:16:09,840 Speaker 5: I apologize, but unfortunately I do not have that. I 256 00:16:09,960 --> 00:16:12,240 Speaker 5: need to go to the stores like, oh, you better 257 00:16:12,240 --> 00:16:13,760 Speaker 5: do it and give me a free beat that. Yeah, 258 00:16:13,840 --> 00:16:18,760 Speaker 5: you're getting her. You're getting your dunk nut pizza for sure, 259 00:16:18,880 --> 00:16:21,000 Speaker 5: with extra special sauce. 260 00:16:22,000 --> 00:16:28,120 Speaker 1: Over the entire time that you worked at that Papa Johns. 261 00:16:28,920 --> 00:16:30,560 Speaker 1: How long did you work at the Papa Johns? 262 00:16:31,280 --> 00:16:31,440 Speaker 3: Uh? 263 00:16:32,680 --> 00:16:36,760 Speaker 5: Approximately between five to eight months. 264 00:16:37,200 --> 00:16:39,800 Speaker 1: So over the time that you worked at the Papa Johns, 265 00:16:40,040 --> 00:16:44,360 Speaker 1: how many pizzas do you believe that you dunked your 266 00:16:44,400 --> 00:16:46,440 Speaker 1: nuts on slash came onto. 267 00:16:48,040 --> 00:16:52,120 Speaker 5: I would have to say an undeterminable amount. 268 00:16:51,880 --> 00:16:55,040 Speaker 1: Because get go that estimate. Give me and give me 269 00:16:55,040 --> 00:16:55,600 Speaker 1: a range. 270 00:16:56,240 --> 00:17:04,359 Speaker 5: All right, Let's say between fifty to about sixty five. 271 00:17:07,520 --> 00:17:11,200 Speaker 1: You wiped your nuts on fifty pizzas. 272 00:17:12,280 --> 00:17:12,399 Speaker 4: Well. 273 00:17:12,440 --> 00:17:14,800 Speaker 5: I was a delivery driver as well, so I had 274 00:17:14,840 --> 00:17:17,200 Speaker 5: ample time to do it. An I'll just say this much. 275 00:17:17,240 --> 00:17:21,080 Speaker 5: Anybody could do anything to your pizzas, So it all 276 00:17:21,080 --> 00:17:24,159 Speaker 5: according to how you treat somebody, or somebody could just 277 00:17:24,160 --> 00:17:25,919 Speaker 5: be having a bad day. At least I had a 278 00:17:25,960 --> 00:17:27,639 Speaker 5: reason to my matteness, so to speak. 279 00:17:29,640 --> 00:17:36,159 Speaker 1: You're like a fucking batman villain except Jesus on pizza. 280 00:17:37,520 --> 00:17:39,720 Speaker 5: Well, thank you, I guess you can call me mister Freeze. 281 00:17:41,320 --> 00:17:43,400 Speaker 1: None of what either of us just said made any 282 00:17:43,400 --> 00:17:43,920 Speaker 1: sense but. 283 00:17:45,440 --> 00:17:45,800 Speaker 5: Correct. 284 00:17:45,840 --> 00:17:50,520 Speaker 1: Okay, So what kinds of things would people like? When 285 00:17:50,560 --> 00:17:54,280 Speaker 1: you say people mistreated you, what would they do like what? 286 00:17:54,800 --> 00:17:59,240 Speaker 1: I'm very curious. What's the most mild form of mistreatment 287 00:17:59,280 --> 00:18:02,840 Speaker 1: that you received that you responded to by jezzing on 288 00:18:02,880 --> 00:18:04,600 Speaker 1: their pizza? 289 00:18:04,760 --> 00:18:07,960 Speaker 5: Well, it wouldn't be to you know, the mild version 290 00:18:08,000 --> 00:18:10,000 Speaker 5: to be like to an extreme. You know, if somebody's 291 00:18:10,040 --> 00:18:11,639 Speaker 5: having a bad day, you know, I would try to, 292 00:18:12,359 --> 00:18:15,040 Speaker 5: you know, give a quick talk to because I'm not 293 00:18:15,119 --> 00:18:19,679 Speaker 5: a horrible person, contrary to what everybody has heard, but 294 00:18:20,480 --> 00:18:22,840 Speaker 5: you know, somebody's going through bad time, I would try 295 00:18:22,840 --> 00:18:25,560 Speaker 5: to pay for their pizza, so to speak, because you 296 00:18:25,600 --> 00:18:28,480 Speaker 5: can tell in somebody's eyes that they were going through something. 297 00:18:28,960 --> 00:18:31,600 Speaker 5: And some people, you know, I've heard other callers say that, yeah, 298 00:18:31,800 --> 00:18:34,280 Speaker 5: they just needed somebody to talk to, and you know 299 00:18:34,400 --> 00:18:38,800 Speaker 5: I was that person. But as far as would going 300 00:18:38,840 --> 00:18:40,960 Speaker 5: to that extreme for what I've done, that's only for 301 00:18:41,320 --> 00:18:44,600 Speaker 5: extreme measures. It wouldn't be anything mild like oh, you 302 00:18:44,600 --> 00:18:46,800 Speaker 5: know you took so long and blah, blah blah blah. 303 00:18:46,800 --> 00:18:50,080 Speaker 5: It's like, yeah, that's fine because I've been there, you know. 304 00:18:50,280 --> 00:18:53,080 Speaker 1: So well. Okay, but but but you said fifty pizzas. 305 00:18:53,080 --> 00:18:58,240 Speaker 1: I mean that means at least fifty individual people pissed 306 00:18:58,280 --> 00:19:01,840 Speaker 1: you off so much much that you jiz on their pizza. 307 00:19:01,960 --> 00:19:04,919 Speaker 1: What did fifty people? What do these fifty people do 308 00:19:05,000 --> 00:19:09,200 Speaker 1: to you that you felt was so deserving of them 309 00:19:09,880 --> 00:19:11,639 Speaker 1: fucking eating your comb? 310 00:19:13,720 --> 00:19:16,760 Speaker 5: Well, the fact that not only I mean to give 311 00:19:16,800 --> 00:19:20,199 Speaker 5: that number, it's a college town and a lot of 312 00:19:20,200 --> 00:19:23,879 Speaker 5: people love to drink around that area, and there was 313 00:19:23,920 --> 00:19:28,480 Speaker 5: just something that were belligerent, you know, silver Spoon and 314 00:19:28,560 --> 00:19:32,560 Speaker 5: Mouth and titled Bridge Hansels or the Karen that really 315 00:19:32,680 --> 00:19:35,119 Speaker 5: has been drinking has been undergoing a bunch of stress 316 00:19:35,119 --> 00:19:38,119 Speaker 5: and taking it out on somebody else. I have a limit, 317 00:19:39,040 --> 00:19:42,199 Speaker 5: but it's like far enough to where they've called supervisors, 318 00:19:42,200 --> 00:19:45,920 Speaker 5: threatened violence on me and the store. I mean, heck, 319 00:19:46,160 --> 00:19:51,520 Speaker 5: we had one sister property have one individual get robbed 320 00:19:51,520 --> 00:19:54,399 Speaker 5: and shot in the head because of how severe the 321 00:19:54,480 --> 00:19:56,480 Speaker 5: situation was, and he was on his way to deliver 322 00:19:56,520 --> 00:19:59,480 Speaker 5: a pizza. He was at a stop light apparently, and 323 00:19:59,520 --> 00:20:00,960 Speaker 5: at all went down. 324 00:20:02,600 --> 00:20:11,880 Speaker 1: Do you regret doing any of this seven years later, on. 325 00:20:11,920 --> 00:20:17,640 Speaker 5: A logical yes, on a psychological no, not at all. 326 00:20:18,240 --> 00:20:21,919 Speaker 5: They deserve it, and I serve them with a smile. 327 00:20:22,040 --> 00:20:27,080 Speaker 1: Right after, what do you do with your life? Now? 328 00:20:27,200 --> 00:20:30,560 Speaker 1: Where is the pizza masturbator? Seven years later? 329 00:20:34,680 --> 00:20:35,000 Speaker 2: Sorry? 330 00:20:35,040 --> 00:20:38,480 Speaker 5: Just the way you said that was beautiful. Right now 331 00:20:38,880 --> 00:20:44,800 Speaker 5: I am dealing with well, right now, I'll just say this. 332 00:20:44,960 --> 00:20:48,720 Speaker 5: I work at a collision center, but I am dealing 333 00:20:48,760 --> 00:20:53,399 Speaker 5: with a knee issue that has prevented me from working. 334 00:20:56,760 --> 00:21:02,119 Speaker 5: I'm going through lawyers in regards to the injury because 335 00:21:02,160 --> 00:21:07,080 Speaker 5: the company or the UH insurance adjusture doesn't want to 336 00:21:07,080 --> 00:21:07,600 Speaker 5: pay for it. 337 00:21:07,680 --> 00:21:15,880 Speaker 1: So are you still? I mean to get all right, 338 00:21:16,440 --> 00:21:20,520 Speaker 1: if we can get into this for a second, I mean, yeah, look, 339 00:21:23,920 --> 00:21:29,320 Speaker 1: chising on people's pizzas is really fucked up. He's really 340 00:21:29,359 --> 00:21:34,280 Speaker 1: fucked up. What do you are you? I can't. I 341 00:21:34,280 --> 00:21:38,760 Speaker 1: don't even do you? Do you still do fucked up 342 00:21:38,800 --> 00:21:39,359 Speaker 1: ship like that? 343 00:21:42,160 --> 00:21:42,680 Speaker 4: No? 344 00:21:42,760 --> 00:21:46,000 Speaker 5: Not at all. Actually, I've been more tame since I've 345 00:21:46,080 --> 00:21:51,080 Speaker 5: been married. It's calmed me down a lot. I used 346 00:21:51,080 --> 00:21:52,119 Speaker 5: to be more crazier. 347 00:21:53,160 --> 00:21:54,679 Speaker 1: You're how long have you been married for? 348 00:21:55,640 --> 00:22:00,320 Speaker 5: I've been married. Let's see. I think it's about to 349 00:22:00,720 --> 00:22:02,919 Speaker 5: going on two years now, does she know that. 350 00:22:02,920 --> 00:22:04,920 Speaker 1: You used toges on people's pizzas? 351 00:22:05,280 --> 00:22:09,119 Speaker 5: Oh yeah, my best friend, uh basically confirmed it and 352 00:22:10,040 --> 00:22:12,119 Speaker 5: I told her about it. She said, that fucked up. 353 00:22:12,160 --> 00:22:15,439 Speaker 5: Why would you do that? The simple answer is because 354 00:22:15,920 --> 00:22:16,760 Speaker 5: people are answered. 355 00:22:19,040 --> 00:22:21,639 Speaker 1: You still really haven't answered my question to the degree 356 00:22:21,680 --> 00:22:25,400 Speaker 1: that I feel satisfied with, which is, what did these 357 00:22:25,400 --> 00:22:27,240 Speaker 1: people fucking do to make you on a jiz on 358 00:22:27,280 --> 00:22:29,879 Speaker 1: their pizza? Like you like, I mean, give me a 359 00:22:29,880 --> 00:22:33,560 Speaker 1: specific scenario or a story like so far, you're just 360 00:22:33,760 --> 00:22:37,040 Speaker 1: you just give me general answers to this question, all right. 361 00:22:37,400 --> 00:22:42,159 Speaker 5: So one specific answer would be I go to somebody's house. 362 00:22:42,480 --> 00:22:45,400 Speaker 5: It's in the it's in the backwoods right of the 363 00:22:45,440 --> 00:22:49,359 Speaker 5: town that I lived in, and it was hard to 364 00:22:49,359 --> 00:22:51,560 Speaker 5: get there to begin with because it's all rockey and 365 00:22:51,600 --> 00:22:53,240 Speaker 5: the car that I had at the time was kind 366 00:22:53,240 --> 00:22:55,600 Speaker 5: of a It wasn't the best in the world, but 367 00:22:55,680 --> 00:23:00,160 Speaker 5: it was you know, motor transportation. Go knocking on their door. 368 00:23:00,560 --> 00:23:03,920 Speaker 5: They have this scowl look that just made you want 369 00:23:03,960 --> 00:23:07,960 Speaker 5: to go, oh god, why, And. 370 00:23:08,040 --> 00:23:11,720 Speaker 1: You know you can't get You can't jiz on someone's 371 00:23:11,800 --> 00:23:13,440 Speaker 1: pizza because they look. 372 00:23:13,400 --> 00:23:16,960 Speaker 5: Mean, no, no, no, I understand that, but that's why 373 00:23:16,960 --> 00:23:22,800 Speaker 5: I'm getting to that point. So they basically just after 374 00:23:23,040 --> 00:23:25,520 Speaker 5: I opened the door, they opened the door. They just 375 00:23:25,560 --> 00:23:27,720 Speaker 5: start yelling at me like. 376 00:23:27,680 --> 00:23:29,120 Speaker 3: Why the fuck do you say? 377 00:23:29,280 --> 00:23:31,480 Speaker 5: So there's a lot of explosives. 378 00:23:31,680 --> 00:23:34,119 Speaker 3: Why the fuck did you take some goddamn long, motherfucker? 379 00:23:34,320 --> 00:23:35,919 Speaker 3: I swear to God, I should shoot you right in 380 00:23:35,920 --> 00:23:39,480 Speaker 3: the fucking throat right now. I'm like, whoa, whoa, Okay, 381 00:23:41,000 --> 00:23:42,880 Speaker 3: I'm sorry that it took this or you. 382 00:23:42,840 --> 00:23:44,639 Speaker 5: Know it took so long. There is this this this 383 00:23:44,840 --> 00:23:45,439 Speaker 5: going on. 384 00:23:45,720 --> 00:23:47,760 Speaker 3: That I don't give a fuck as I should beat 385 00:23:47,800 --> 00:23:50,040 Speaker 3: you up and have like piples brick your throat out 386 00:23:50,119 --> 00:23:52,200 Speaker 3: right now. I don't give a fuck. I want a 387 00:23:52,280 --> 00:23:54,520 Speaker 3: goddamn refund. I want this, I want that. 388 00:23:54,560 --> 00:23:56,280 Speaker 5: And I'm like, oh, yeah, you're getting your. 389 00:23:56,160 --> 00:23:56,840 Speaker 3: Ship just on. 390 00:23:57,640 --> 00:23:59,600 Speaker 1: So wit a minute, So how did okay, but if 391 00:23:59,640 --> 00:24:03,120 Speaker 1: you were already at the door with the pizza, how 392 00:24:03,160 --> 00:24:07,240 Speaker 1: did you then jizz on the pizza? So were you were? You? 393 00:24:07,320 --> 00:24:07,399 Speaker 6: Like? 394 00:24:07,440 --> 00:24:10,080 Speaker 1: Hold on, I have more, I have a coupon in 395 00:24:10,080 --> 00:24:12,600 Speaker 1: my car. I'll be right back. Well. 396 00:24:12,600 --> 00:24:15,240 Speaker 5: He tried to de escalate the situation by saying, you know, 397 00:24:15,359 --> 00:24:17,679 Speaker 5: I can see I can talk to my manager and 398 00:24:17,720 --> 00:24:20,840 Speaker 5: see you know, since you're very displeased, if you would like, 399 00:24:20,960 --> 00:24:23,040 Speaker 5: you know, to have a refunded in any way, shape 400 00:24:23,080 --> 00:24:24,920 Speaker 5: or form, or get in contact with them so we 401 00:24:24,920 --> 00:24:26,480 Speaker 5: can do said, yeah, I want to do that, and 402 00:24:26,520 --> 00:24:28,760 Speaker 5: you better send that pizza back and have somebody else 403 00:24:28,800 --> 00:24:33,320 Speaker 5: deliver it. And my they actually called the store and 404 00:24:33,400 --> 00:24:36,560 Speaker 5: my manager was there on site and he said, hey, 405 00:24:36,720 --> 00:24:38,800 Speaker 5: just give me the pizza that you have right now, 406 00:24:40,040 --> 00:24:43,959 Speaker 5: just take this one. Everything's you know, been you know, 407 00:24:44,040 --> 00:24:47,040 Speaker 5: taken care of. Just go ahead deliver it. Because I 408 00:24:47,040 --> 00:24:51,280 Speaker 5: don't have any other drivers at that time, and it 409 00:24:51,359 --> 00:24:53,960 Speaker 5: took me in a proxy, it could take me about like, 410 00:24:54,040 --> 00:24:56,520 Speaker 5: you know, ten fifteen minutes. I took an extra like 411 00:24:57,440 --> 00:24:58,000 Speaker 5: three to. 412 00:24:59,760 --> 00:24:59,800 Speaker 6: You. 413 00:25:00,000 --> 00:25:04,280 Speaker 5: I had the mister free sauce. And afterwards they're like, what's. 414 00:25:04,000 --> 00:25:06,680 Speaker 2: About the time, Yeah, you got. 415 00:25:06,440 --> 00:25:09,040 Speaker 3: Here later than normal? What the fuck? 416 00:25:09,160 --> 00:25:12,080 Speaker 5: I'm like, I apologize. I hope you have a great 417 00:25:12,080 --> 00:25:14,680 Speaker 5: rest of your day. Whatever you go through, I hope 418 00:25:14,720 --> 00:25:17,240 Speaker 5: you were able to deal with it better than I could. 419 00:25:17,440 --> 00:25:19,959 Speaker 5: You have a great day. And I just got in 420 00:25:19,960 --> 00:25:22,480 Speaker 5: the car, went down the road, had a smile on 421 00:25:22,520 --> 00:25:24,840 Speaker 5: my face and like, yeah, I'm enjoyed the extra happy 422 00:25:24,840 --> 00:25:25,360 Speaker 5: sauce too. 423 00:25:26,119 --> 00:25:35,520 Speaker 1: You got to stop with the cute names for the sauce. Yeah, uh, 424 00:25:37,680 --> 00:25:39,000 Speaker 1: Jesus christ Man. 425 00:25:40,000 --> 00:25:42,520 Speaker 5: I was a very fucked up individual and I realized that, 426 00:25:42,560 --> 00:25:46,119 Speaker 5: and that's why I'm like, wow, I definitely need to stop, 427 00:25:46,160 --> 00:25:48,359 Speaker 5: which I haven't done anything like that ever since. 428 00:25:53,440 --> 00:25:57,560 Speaker 1: Well, I mean, I guess that's good. 429 00:26:00,400 --> 00:26:03,040 Speaker 5: Changed my personality though, But I and now do I 430 00:26:03,080 --> 00:26:06,240 Speaker 5: talk about it more? Yes, I do regret it for 431 00:26:06,280 --> 00:26:09,280 Speaker 5: a simple fact that it's not only health code violation 432 00:26:09,440 --> 00:26:14,120 Speaker 5: but other things as well. And and I haven't been caught, 433 00:26:14,160 --> 00:26:18,320 Speaker 5: but I still feel remorse, you know, years later, contrary 434 00:26:18,320 --> 00:26:19,240 Speaker 5: to what I said earlier. 435 00:26:19,760 --> 00:26:24,520 Speaker 1: Yeah, that's that's such a one from what you said earlier. 436 00:26:24,680 --> 00:26:26,320 Speaker 5: Yeah, I know, right, It's like, I guess you have 437 00:26:26,359 --> 00:26:29,520 Speaker 5: to talk about I suppose to actually realize what you 438 00:26:30,760 --> 00:26:35,000 Speaker 5: what you've done. I mean, my best friend even said, like, dude, 439 00:26:35,040 --> 00:26:38,040 Speaker 5: that's fucked and he was there with me during that time. 440 00:26:38,640 --> 00:26:40,600 Speaker 5: You know, he didn't stop me or anything. I guess 441 00:26:40,600 --> 00:26:43,240 Speaker 5: he's just as much of a villain than I am, 442 00:26:43,359 --> 00:26:50,679 Speaker 5: by uh association, since he knew. But I'm not going 443 00:26:50,720 --> 00:26:51,879 Speaker 5: to drag him into this though. 444 00:26:52,040 --> 00:26:56,800 Speaker 1: That's I I don't know, do you do you still 445 00:26:56,920 --> 00:27:05,399 Speaker 1: order from Papa John's. 446 00:27:03,240 --> 00:27:03,960 Speaker 5: Excuse me. 447 00:27:04,440 --> 00:27:04,640 Speaker 3: Yeah. 448 00:27:04,760 --> 00:27:08,159 Speaker 5: Actually the only reason why because I actually tipped the 449 00:27:08,520 --> 00:27:12,000 Speaker 5: individual as well. It's like, depending on what my word is, 450 00:27:12,000 --> 00:27:14,440 Speaker 5: I tiped between ten to twenty dollars. 451 00:27:16,280 --> 00:27:18,600 Speaker 1: I still can't, I really still can't get over the 452 00:27:18,640 --> 00:27:20,600 Speaker 1: fact that you said fifty because if you were just 453 00:27:20,920 --> 00:27:24,639 Speaker 1: here's here's I mean, there's a lot of things about 454 00:27:24,640 --> 00:27:30,040 Speaker 1: this that are disturbing, but here's the big thing is 455 00:27:30,080 --> 00:27:34,400 Speaker 1: to me, like, if you've told me if this was like, Okay, 456 00:27:34,520 --> 00:27:38,840 Speaker 1: this person was such a fucking cunt and they were 457 00:27:38,960 --> 00:27:42,119 Speaker 1: horrible and I justed on their pizza, I'd be like, 458 00:27:42,160 --> 00:27:45,399 Speaker 1: that's pretty fucked up. But I mean you're telling me, 459 00:27:45,480 --> 00:27:51,240 Speaker 1: you're telling me this happened fifty to sixty five times, Like, 460 00:27:51,400 --> 00:27:54,320 Speaker 1: are there, like there were really fifty people that were 461 00:27:54,359 --> 00:27:56,480 Speaker 1: that much of an asshole to you? 462 00:27:59,320 --> 00:28:04,000 Speaker 5: Yes? For to prove that if you know anything about 463 00:28:04,160 --> 00:28:07,280 Speaker 5: uh Georgia in the central of Georgia, Yes. 464 00:28:11,440 --> 00:28:13,440 Speaker 1: Okay, I have a way that you can redeem yourself. 465 00:28:16,400 --> 00:28:19,040 Speaker 5: Pray to the almighty gek uh No, I. 466 00:28:18,960 --> 00:28:24,440 Speaker 1: Don't give a ship, well, don't uh you. I think 467 00:28:24,560 --> 00:28:26,760 Speaker 1: I think what you can do is you can jizz 468 00:28:26,760 --> 00:28:30,240 Speaker 1: on a slice of pizza. No, call your friends and 469 00:28:30,359 --> 00:28:33,240 Speaker 1: have him jizz on a slice of pizza and then 470 00:28:33,280 --> 00:28:33,600 Speaker 1: eat it. 471 00:28:35,440 --> 00:28:41,880 Speaker 5: Oh I can, I'll be COOKII with people. Okay, you 472 00:28:41,920 --> 00:28:45,480 Speaker 5: know what, gig. If that's what it takes by your eyes, 473 00:28:45,720 --> 00:28:48,360 Speaker 5: then the guck has spoken. 474 00:28:50,560 --> 00:28:53,760 Speaker 1: I don't like how serious you took. I'm I'm done 475 00:28:53,760 --> 00:28:55,320 Speaker 1: with this. Is there anything else you want to say 476 00:28:55,360 --> 00:28:56,880 Speaker 1: to the people of the computer before we go? 477 00:28:58,400 --> 00:29:04,440 Speaker 5: Yeah, don't do what I did? Uh, and just be 478 00:29:04,600 --> 00:29:07,000 Speaker 5: kind to your fellow human beings contrary. 479 00:29:06,640 --> 00:29:10,000 Speaker 1: To all right? All right, okay, bye, thanks for calling. 480 00:29:11,000 --> 00:29:14,640 Speaker 5: Thank you gay. 481 00:29:14,920 --> 00:29:20,400 Speaker 1: That was that was disturbing. Hello. 482 00:29:21,400 --> 00:29:23,240 Speaker 2: Hello, what is your name? 483 00:29:24,520 --> 00:29:25,360 Speaker 6: My name is Kai. 484 00:29:26,480 --> 00:29:28,640 Speaker 1: How can I get you today? Kai? What's going on? 485 00:29:30,000 --> 00:29:30,080 Speaker 4: So? 486 00:29:31,000 --> 00:29:33,840 Speaker 6: My life has kind of felt like a matter of 487 00:29:34,280 --> 00:29:39,680 Speaker 6: setbacks recently, and I'm just like questioning things and I 488 00:29:39,720 --> 00:29:42,400 Speaker 6: feel like just talking about it may make me feel 489 00:29:42,400 --> 00:29:42,960 Speaker 6: a little better. 490 00:29:45,080 --> 00:29:46,280 Speaker 1: Okay, where do you want to start? 491 00:29:48,280 --> 00:29:51,160 Speaker 6: I guess we'll start with like the beginning of the 492 00:29:51,240 --> 00:29:54,040 Speaker 6: year my dad passed away. 493 00:29:54,560 --> 00:29:56,680 Speaker 1: I'm sorry to hear that, and thank you. 494 00:29:58,600 --> 00:30:01,560 Speaker 6: It really threw me out of whack. I will say 495 00:30:02,200 --> 00:30:05,640 Speaker 6: I wasn't super close with my dad, but it hit 496 00:30:05,720 --> 00:30:08,200 Speaker 6: me a lot harder than I thought I was going 497 00:30:08,280 --> 00:30:11,400 Speaker 6: to be affected by it. And at the time I 498 00:30:11,480 --> 00:30:14,800 Speaker 6: was in school, it was supposed to be graduating, and 499 00:30:15,240 --> 00:30:17,400 Speaker 6: with his passing, I ended up having to put a 500 00:30:17,440 --> 00:30:24,040 Speaker 6: pause on classes. So I ended up delaying my graduation 501 00:30:24,400 --> 00:30:28,680 Speaker 6: to this fall. And on top of that, I got 502 00:30:28,720 --> 00:30:33,880 Speaker 6: into a car accident like two months afterwards. So I 503 00:30:34,120 --> 00:30:37,000 Speaker 6: just I feel like I'm in a matter of setback, 504 00:30:37,280 --> 00:30:41,240 Speaker 6: and I just I don't know what to do going forward. 505 00:30:41,600 --> 00:30:44,520 Speaker 6: Like I want to finish college. I know that, but 506 00:30:45,480 --> 00:30:49,840 Speaker 6: just going forward with life just seems hard because every 507 00:30:49,880 --> 00:30:52,440 Speaker 6: time it's like two steps forward, one step back, and 508 00:30:52,560 --> 00:30:55,959 Speaker 6: I don't really know how to change my luck. I 509 00:30:56,000 --> 00:30:59,040 Speaker 6: know there's things out of my control, but there's also 510 00:30:59,080 --> 00:31:00,920 Speaker 6: things in my control that I can change. 511 00:31:00,920 --> 00:31:01,120 Speaker 4: You know. 512 00:31:02,240 --> 00:31:03,440 Speaker 1: Can I ask how old you are? 513 00:31:05,760 --> 00:31:07,440 Speaker 6: I am twenty four? 514 00:31:08,480 --> 00:31:13,240 Speaker 1: Okay, Well I'm curious what do you What are you 515 00:31:13,320 --> 00:31:15,040 Speaker 1: in college for? What do you like? If you were 516 00:31:15,080 --> 00:31:17,680 Speaker 1: to finish college, what would it be in the field. 517 00:31:17,960 --> 00:31:21,120 Speaker 6: I would have gotten my BS in biology and my 518 00:31:21,240 --> 00:31:23,480 Speaker 6: PA in anthropology. 519 00:31:23,520 --> 00:31:26,720 Speaker 1: Okay? Are those things that excite you and interest to 520 00:31:26,760 --> 00:31:28,640 Speaker 1: you that you want to do one? 521 00:31:30,680 --> 00:31:34,520 Speaker 6: I was actually lined up to go to grad school, 522 00:31:34,640 --> 00:31:39,400 Speaker 6: but because I delayed my graduation. I got pulled away 523 00:31:39,440 --> 00:31:40,520 Speaker 6: from that grad school. 524 00:31:43,000 --> 00:31:46,000 Speaker 1: Okay, what do you want to do? Like what I 525 00:31:46,040 --> 00:31:48,840 Speaker 1: normally I guess what kind of jobs are the uh 526 00:31:49,840 --> 00:31:53,840 Speaker 1: or at the end of those fields? Okay, I graduate me. 527 00:31:54,200 --> 00:31:57,719 Speaker 6: It would be something doing medical stuff. But I'm at 528 00:31:57,720 --> 00:31:59,479 Speaker 6: a point in my life where I feel like I 529 00:31:59,480 --> 00:32:03,480 Speaker 6: need to re evaluate and I don't want to disappoint people. 530 00:32:05,160 --> 00:32:09,680 Speaker 6: But I'm also thinking like maybe I don't do grad 531 00:32:09,720 --> 00:32:14,240 Speaker 6: school and just kind of work on starting my own 532 00:32:14,280 --> 00:32:15,320 Speaker 6: business like I want to. 533 00:32:16,080 --> 00:32:21,040 Speaker 1: Oh, Okay, you said a bunch of interesting things. Just now, 534 00:32:21,960 --> 00:32:25,320 Speaker 1: let's hold on to them. You said, I want to 535 00:32:25,360 --> 00:32:27,920 Speaker 1: start my own business like I've always wanted to do. 536 00:32:28,520 --> 00:32:30,480 Speaker 1: You said I don't want to disappoint people, and you 537 00:32:30,520 --> 00:32:36,960 Speaker 1: said you want to reevaluate your life. So I want to. 538 00:32:37,000 --> 00:32:38,400 Speaker 1: I want to. I want Let's hold on to all 539 00:32:38,520 --> 00:32:41,800 Speaker 1: three of those. Uh what do you what about your life? 540 00:32:41,800 --> 00:32:43,840 Speaker 1: Are you reevaluating. 541 00:32:44,400 --> 00:32:47,440 Speaker 6: The pathway that I'm taking to get to my end goal? 542 00:32:47,720 --> 00:32:51,120 Speaker 6: So I'll kind of explain my end goal, kind of 543 00:32:51,160 --> 00:32:55,840 Speaker 6: going back to the business idea. I really like reptiles 544 00:32:56,240 --> 00:32:59,760 Speaker 6: and I want to have a tortoise ranch, and I 545 00:32:59,760 --> 00:33:02,920 Speaker 6: know that it sounds really crazy, but I want to 546 00:33:02,960 --> 00:33:08,600 Speaker 6: work in conservation and just educating people on reptiles. 547 00:33:09,760 --> 00:33:13,720 Speaker 1: Hold on, I thought the turtles were amphibians. 548 00:33:15,440 --> 00:33:17,120 Speaker 6: No, they're reptiles. 549 00:33:17,760 --> 00:33:20,200 Speaker 1: Okay, I didn't know that for a reptile. I know 550 00:33:20,360 --> 00:33:22,520 Speaker 1: very little about reptiles. 551 00:33:23,120 --> 00:33:24,920 Speaker 6: It's okay, it happens the best of us. 552 00:33:25,480 --> 00:33:28,520 Speaker 1: That sounds beautiful. I love that idea. That's great, that 553 00:33:28,640 --> 00:33:32,720 Speaker 1: sounds cool. And I'm not even saying that because I'm biased. 554 00:33:33,040 --> 00:33:36,600 Speaker 1: But all right, so who are you afraid of disappointing? 555 00:33:36,640 --> 00:33:38,160 Speaker 1: And how would you disappoint them? 556 00:33:39,360 --> 00:33:43,640 Speaker 6: Specifically, my aunt, She's not blood related to me, but 557 00:33:43,720 --> 00:33:48,720 Speaker 6: she's the closest relative that I have. She and her 558 00:33:48,760 --> 00:33:52,240 Speaker 6: mom very much want to see me graduate from grad 559 00:33:52,280 --> 00:33:56,400 Speaker 6: school because I've talked about, like probably since I was little, 560 00:33:57,040 --> 00:33:58,480 Speaker 6: wanting to go into. 561 00:33:58,240 --> 00:34:01,800 Speaker 1: Okay, let me stop you right there. Not that this 562 00:34:02,040 --> 00:34:07,040 Speaker 1: is that important, but it's a little important. Have they 563 00:34:07,120 --> 00:34:11,600 Speaker 1: have they funded your college experience at all? Your mom 564 00:34:11,640 --> 00:34:12,560 Speaker 1: and your aunts. 565 00:34:13,400 --> 00:34:17,400 Speaker 6: Not directly. Sometimes they would give me like supplies and stuff, 566 00:34:17,440 --> 00:34:21,840 Speaker 6: not like textbooks or anything, just like, but but you're you. 567 00:34:21,840 --> 00:34:24,480 Speaker 1: You're the one who's taking on the loans. It's not 568 00:34:24,560 --> 00:34:27,400 Speaker 1: like because because look, I want to say, like I 569 00:34:27,440 --> 00:34:29,239 Speaker 1: want to say, if your I want to say, if 570 00:34:29,239 --> 00:34:32,200 Speaker 1: your family is like giving you a buck, like they 571 00:34:32,239 --> 00:34:34,840 Speaker 1: gave you a bunch of money to go and you're like, 572 00:34:35,120 --> 00:34:40,640 Speaker 1: I want to drop out. I understand that stress, but 573 00:34:41,440 --> 00:34:44,359 Speaker 1: this is like your art. I'm sorry I completely cut 574 00:34:44,400 --> 00:34:47,440 Speaker 1: you off while you were talking. But did you so 575 00:34:47,520 --> 00:34:49,240 Speaker 1: you took out the loans to go to school? 576 00:34:49,760 --> 00:34:50,000 Speaker 4: Yep? 577 00:34:50,080 --> 00:34:53,120 Speaker 6: I've been putting myself through school since I started. 578 00:34:53,719 --> 00:34:56,959 Speaker 1: My friend, you should do whatever the fuck you want 579 00:34:56,960 --> 00:35:00,440 Speaker 1: to do, if that's the case. I, by the way, 580 00:35:00,440 --> 00:35:02,200 Speaker 1: I would say that even if that wasn't the case. 581 00:35:03,200 --> 00:35:04,880 Speaker 1: I think it's a little bit harder if that's not 582 00:35:04,880 --> 00:35:07,480 Speaker 1: the case. But like, so, what if your aunt and 583 00:35:07,520 --> 00:35:09,600 Speaker 1: your mom want you to do something because you were 584 00:35:09,600 --> 00:35:11,759 Speaker 1: talking about doing it since you were a little I 585 00:35:11,800 --> 00:35:15,560 Speaker 1: frankly think that's a horrible reason to do something. 586 00:35:16,400 --> 00:35:24,759 Speaker 6: Yeah, it kind of is. But I have disappointment issues 587 00:35:24,760 --> 00:35:28,120 Speaker 6: in the sense that, like, I feel bad making people 588 00:35:28,120 --> 00:35:31,520 Speaker 6: feel bad, and I know her aunt. 589 00:35:31,520 --> 00:35:35,480 Speaker 1: Yeah, but you can't. Yeah, but but but you you 590 00:35:35,760 --> 00:35:40,360 Speaker 1: really really can't live your life that way. You really can't. 591 00:35:40,360 --> 00:35:45,000 Speaker 1: You're going to actually drive yourself to insanity if you 592 00:35:45,080 --> 00:35:49,160 Speaker 1: try to live your life that way. You will want to. 593 00:35:49,480 --> 00:35:54,680 Speaker 1: It's just because you can't control how your mom feels 594 00:35:54,719 --> 00:35:56,480 Speaker 1: about your own life decisions. 595 00:35:57,560 --> 00:35:57,920 Speaker 2: Yes, A. 596 00:35:58,880 --> 00:36:03,000 Speaker 1: And then B is it's your life and you have 597 00:36:03,080 --> 00:36:04,640 Speaker 1: a cool and you have a cool thing that you 598 00:36:04,680 --> 00:36:06,560 Speaker 1: want to do, this reptile thing. Okay, all right, what 599 00:36:06,600 --> 00:36:08,280 Speaker 1: do we the three things? 600 00:36:08,880 --> 00:36:09,200 Speaker 7: Uh? 601 00:36:09,239 --> 00:36:09,880 Speaker 1: Your evaluation? 602 00:36:10,080 --> 00:36:10,239 Speaker 7: Yeah? 603 00:36:10,239 --> 00:36:12,839 Speaker 1: The business? Okay, so how would you start this business? 604 00:36:14,239 --> 00:36:14,359 Speaker 7: So? 605 00:36:14,920 --> 00:36:18,799 Speaker 6: First thing first would be to get property in order 606 00:36:18,920 --> 00:36:22,520 Speaker 6: to actually do the ranch, I need a property that 607 00:36:22,680 --> 00:36:26,719 Speaker 6: would be large enough to hold tortoises because I'm looking 608 00:36:26,760 --> 00:36:28,839 Speaker 6: at getting giant tortoises specifically. 609 00:36:33,120 --> 00:36:35,200 Speaker 1: That's pretty cool. How do you how do this? Want 610 00:36:35,200 --> 00:36:36,680 Speaker 1: to procure giant tortoises? 611 00:36:38,000 --> 00:36:38,280 Speaker 2: Uh? 612 00:36:38,320 --> 00:36:42,759 Speaker 6: You can actually just buy them online. I don't recommend 613 00:36:42,840 --> 00:36:45,120 Speaker 6: just like buying them blindly, but there's a lot of 614 00:36:46,080 --> 00:36:50,680 Speaker 6: so to speak, dealers and tortoises online that you can find. 615 00:36:51,600 --> 00:36:55,960 Speaker 6: There's a guy that I follow who I'm like, basically 616 00:36:56,080 --> 00:36:59,400 Speaker 6: I want his life when it comes to just tortoise 617 00:36:59,480 --> 00:37:04,160 Speaker 6: ranching who just sells them for like a couple grand. 618 00:37:06,239 --> 00:37:10,839 Speaker 1: That's amazing. So all right, let's talk through this. Then, 619 00:37:11,400 --> 00:37:17,359 Speaker 1: what is currently between you and achieving the schal. 620 00:37:19,040 --> 00:37:24,759 Speaker 6: Finances. Really just trying to get everything in order. I 621 00:37:24,800 --> 00:37:28,160 Speaker 6: feel like I need to get the college stuff done first, 622 00:37:28,560 --> 00:37:30,879 Speaker 6: because that's something I still want to do. I don't 623 00:37:30,880 --> 00:37:33,000 Speaker 6: want to drop out of college. I'm just I'm not 624 00:37:33,040 --> 00:37:34,440 Speaker 6: sure if I want to do grad school. 625 00:37:35,400 --> 00:37:39,279 Speaker 1: But okay, so she haven't you even finished your undergrad No. 626 00:37:39,600 --> 00:37:42,880 Speaker 6: I'm finishing this semester, so I'm really excited. 627 00:37:43,280 --> 00:37:47,239 Speaker 1: Oh all right, so you're almost done. Yeah, okay, So 628 00:37:48,719 --> 00:37:51,359 Speaker 1: the decision is, do I want to try to figure 629 00:37:51,360 --> 00:37:53,600 Speaker 1: out how I'm gonna start this tourist ranch, versus do 630 00:37:53,680 --> 00:37:54,760 Speaker 1: I want to go to grad school? 631 00:37:55,360 --> 00:37:55,880 Speaker 6: Exactly? 632 00:37:57,440 --> 00:37:59,320 Speaker 1: What are the reasons why you would want to go 633 00:37:59,360 --> 00:38:00,000 Speaker 1: to grad school? 634 00:38:01,480 --> 00:38:04,040 Speaker 6: I would be able to pay for it a little 635 00:38:04,080 --> 00:38:06,920 Speaker 6: better than a tortoise ranch, and I would get a 636 00:38:06,960 --> 00:38:12,040 Speaker 6: bigger return quicker when it comes to finances, because I 637 00:38:12,080 --> 00:38:15,240 Speaker 6: would be almost guaranteed a job out of grad school 638 00:38:16,239 --> 00:38:19,160 Speaker 6: because part of the process is like shadowing with the organization, 639 00:38:19,280 --> 00:38:21,480 Speaker 6: and nine times out of ten you get a job 640 00:38:21,520 --> 00:38:30,240 Speaker 6: at that organization, versus like starting a business. I don't 641 00:38:30,239 --> 00:38:32,759 Speaker 6: really know much about starting a business, if I'm going 642 00:38:32,800 --> 00:38:36,839 Speaker 6: to be honest, like I do do like contract work. 643 00:38:36,880 --> 00:38:39,799 Speaker 6: But that's about the basics of stuff that I have 644 00:38:39,960 --> 00:38:44,920 Speaker 6: for starting a business, and especially like buying land and 645 00:38:44,960 --> 00:38:47,040 Speaker 6: that kind of thing to set up this sort of 646 00:38:47,080 --> 00:38:52,160 Speaker 6: business is like way beyond what I know. If that 647 00:38:52,200 --> 00:38:52,760 Speaker 6: makes sense. 648 00:38:54,880 --> 00:38:58,799 Speaker 1: Have you done the math on this of like how 649 00:38:58,840 --> 00:39:00,799 Speaker 1: much does it cost to go to grad school and 650 00:39:00,840 --> 00:39:05,160 Speaker 1: how much does it cost to start up this business? 651 00:39:05,680 --> 00:39:09,480 Speaker 6: Grad school would be cheaper, but that also means that 652 00:39:09,520 --> 00:39:12,720 Speaker 6: I would have to delay even longer from starting because 653 00:39:12,760 --> 00:39:17,480 Speaker 6: this is the end goal is always been to get. 654 00:39:17,320 --> 00:39:18,120 Speaker 3: A ranch. 655 00:39:19,880 --> 00:39:26,200 Speaker 1: Grad twenty four. I think, first of well, I'll say this, 656 00:39:26,239 --> 00:39:28,359 Speaker 1: first of all, I'm glad that you did in none 657 00:39:28,400 --> 00:39:31,600 Speaker 1: of those reasons you gave me. You said anything about 658 00:39:31,600 --> 00:39:33,719 Speaker 1: your mom and your aunt. I think that's the most 659 00:39:33,719 --> 00:39:39,200 Speaker 1: important thing here, Like you actually you gave me pretty 660 00:39:39,239 --> 00:39:46,760 Speaker 1: pretty good solid reasons here. Is there a pathway that involves, Okay, 661 00:39:46,840 --> 00:39:49,960 Speaker 1: I go to grad school, uh, and then I get 662 00:39:49,960 --> 00:39:53,320 Speaker 1: this job and then I can save up more money 663 00:39:54,200 --> 00:39:56,880 Speaker 1: to get the capital to make the ranch. Does that exist? 664 00:39:57,520 --> 00:40:00,479 Speaker 6: Yeah, So that's that's kind of the plan for going 665 00:40:00,520 --> 00:40:04,640 Speaker 6: to grad school. If I do go. I've been thinking, 666 00:40:04,719 --> 00:40:06,520 Speaker 6: if I still want to go to grad school, I 667 00:40:06,600 --> 00:40:10,600 Speaker 6: might just change which pathway I'm going and maybe going too, 668 00:40:10,680 --> 00:40:15,280 Speaker 6: like veterinary medicine. Does that makes sense going to veterinary medicine, 669 00:40:15,320 --> 00:40:19,080 Speaker 6: because after I leave working, you know, a normal mind 670 00:40:19,120 --> 00:40:22,400 Speaker 6: to five job, I can still utilize those skills. 671 00:40:24,400 --> 00:40:27,520 Speaker 1: Uh again, I really, I really I love the starting 672 00:40:27,520 --> 00:40:31,239 Speaker 1: your own business idea. Uh and and and doing the 673 00:40:31,320 --> 00:40:35,279 Speaker 1: ranch I do, and I understand that. To me, in 674 00:40:35,280 --> 00:40:37,000 Speaker 1: my head, it's like, this is just a question of 675 00:40:37,040 --> 00:40:40,440 Speaker 1: how do you get the money that it was required 676 00:40:40,480 --> 00:40:46,880 Speaker 1: to upstart exactly? And uh I this is this is 677 00:40:46,880 --> 00:40:49,160 Speaker 1: all very logical to me. I'm not worried about you. 678 00:40:49,880 --> 00:40:52,560 Speaker 6: Yeah, I mean, I will say that I have people 679 00:40:52,640 --> 00:40:56,000 Speaker 6: like backing, Like I have a very loving and supporting 680 00:40:56,120 --> 00:40:59,880 Speaker 6: boyfriend that is one hundred percent on board with like 681 00:41:00,160 --> 00:41:04,640 Speaker 6: Tortoise ranching with me. We've been together for like ten years, 682 00:41:05,000 --> 00:41:08,640 Speaker 6: so he kind of knows that I am like dead 683 00:41:08,719 --> 00:41:09,480 Speaker 6: serious on it. 684 00:41:12,160 --> 00:41:14,520 Speaker 1: No, Tortoise Ranching is I want you to know, just 685 00:41:14,640 --> 00:41:16,960 Speaker 1: if you ever doubt it. I really just want you 686 00:41:17,040 --> 00:41:22,400 Speaker 1: to know people have had much, much, much stupider dreams 687 00:41:23,000 --> 00:41:24,520 Speaker 1: than to open a tortoise ranch. 688 00:41:25,960 --> 00:41:27,960 Speaker 6: That does make me feel a little better. 689 00:41:28,239 --> 00:41:31,799 Speaker 1: Yeah, I I I mean, I'm sure you can. I 690 00:41:31,840 --> 00:41:34,960 Speaker 1: could name ten stupider dreams than that, But I'm not 691 00:41:35,040 --> 00:41:38,840 Speaker 1: going to I'm out of respect to those those people 692 00:41:38,840 --> 00:41:43,600 Speaker 1: with those stupid dreams. So I'm not worried about anything 693 00:41:43,640 --> 00:41:46,880 Speaker 1: that you said, except for like the trying to please 694 00:41:46,960 --> 00:41:52,600 Speaker 1: your parents and shit. But you you seem you seem 695 00:41:52,640 --> 00:41:53,719 Speaker 1: like you have this on a lock. 696 00:41:55,400 --> 00:41:58,279 Speaker 6: I try to. I'm trying to have it figured out. 697 00:41:58,360 --> 00:42:01,440 Speaker 6: It's just I hate that it's taking me longer to 698 00:42:01,520 --> 00:42:03,680 Speaker 6: get to where I want to be because of all 699 00:42:03,760 --> 00:42:07,360 Speaker 6: these like setbacks and just expectations of people. 700 00:42:09,520 --> 00:42:13,760 Speaker 1: Well, if it makes you feel any better, you should. Actually, 701 00:42:14,000 --> 00:42:17,719 Speaker 1: I'm gonna say something kind of weird that I don't 702 00:42:17,719 --> 00:42:20,080 Speaker 1: even know if I fully believe, but I'm gonna try it. 703 00:42:21,120 --> 00:42:24,680 Speaker 1: You should actually enjoy this time that is spent achieving 704 00:42:24,680 --> 00:42:28,000 Speaker 1: your goal, because once you actually do achieve your goal, 705 00:42:28,080 --> 00:42:30,680 Speaker 1: once you get your tortoise ranch, you might get kind 706 00:42:30,680 --> 00:42:31,120 Speaker 1: of bored. 707 00:42:32,480 --> 00:42:36,200 Speaker 6: I hope not. I love tortoises, but I do understand 708 00:42:36,239 --> 00:42:39,440 Speaker 6: what you're saying that it's like climbing a mountain and 709 00:42:39,560 --> 00:42:42,000 Speaker 6: enjoying the view, and once you get to the top, 710 00:42:42,080 --> 00:42:44,560 Speaker 6: it's just like, oh I did all this for this, 711 00:42:46,400 --> 00:42:46,880 Speaker 6: There we go. 712 00:42:46,960 --> 00:42:49,279 Speaker 1: See You're well, no, not all this for this, I 713 00:42:49,280 --> 00:42:52,360 Speaker 1: guess I don't. Yeah, I think, yeah, you don't know. 714 00:42:52,440 --> 00:42:54,560 Speaker 1: That's stupid. I think when you have a tortoise ranch, 715 00:42:54,600 --> 00:42:56,920 Speaker 1: you'll actually be pretty stoked about that. But again, but 716 00:42:57,000 --> 00:42:58,680 Speaker 1: it's in the future. It's something to look forward to her. 717 00:42:58,760 --> 00:43:03,480 Speaker 1: So yeah, again, I'm not I'm really I'm really not 718 00:43:03,800 --> 00:43:08,080 Speaker 1: worried about you. You seem like if I had to 719 00:43:08,360 --> 00:43:10,720 Speaker 1: place money on whether or not you would eventually start 720 00:43:10,719 --> 00:43:13,960 Speaker 1: this tortoise ranch, I would do it. 721 00:43:13,760 --> 00:43:16,480 Speaker 6: It's gonna happen. I'll make it happen one way or another. 722 00:43:16,600 --> 00:43:17,760 Speaker 6: It's just a matter of time. 723 00:43:18,600 --> 00:43:21,200 Speaker 1: You're gonna have any geckos at this ranch or just tortoises. 724 00:43:22,000 --> 00:43:25,120 Speaker 6: I want to get a giant lizard, not a gecko, 725 00:43:25,280 --> 00:43:26,080 Speaker 6: but a tagu. 726 00:43:27,200 --> 00:43:27,920 Speaker 1: What's a taku? 727 00:43:28,880 --> 00:43:33,839 Speaker 6: A tagu is a giant lizard. They're from Argentina. They're 728 00:43:33,840 --> 00:43:36,960 Speaker 6: about the size of like a small to medium dog, 729 00:43:38,040 --> 00:43:42,279 Speaker 6: and they're just they're really cute and friendly, like they 730 00:43:42,280 --> 00:43:46,719 Speaker 6: have a very outgoing personality. They eat anything. They're like 731 00:43:46,840 --> 00:43:49,440 Speaker 6: much friendlier than monitor lizards. 732 00:43:49,960 --> 00:43:55,560 Speaker 1: So I will manifest a large Argentinian lizard for your future. 733 00:43:56,680 --> 00:43:57,160 Speaker 7: Thank you. 734 00:43:58,320 --> 00:43:59,400 Speaker 1: What is your name again? 735 00:44:00,200 --> 00:44:00,439 Speaker 6: Kai? 736 00:44:01,080 --> 00:44:02,600 Speaker 1: Kai? Is there anything else you want to say to 737 00:44:02,680 --> 00:44:04,320 Speaker 1: the people of the computer before. 738 00:44:04,040 --> 00:44:09,640 Speaker 6: We go, Please watch for reptiles when you guys drive, 739 00:44:09,719 --> 00:44:11,640 Speaker 6: don't run over them. It makes me very sad. 740 00:44:12,080 --> 00:44:15,920 Speaker 1: I second that. I second that I've gotten hit by 741 00:44:15,960 --> 00:44:18,840 Speaker 1: several cars while walking on the streets. So thank you 742 00:44:18,880 --> 00:44:20,200 Speaker 1: for your advocacy for me. 743 00:44:20,880 --> 00:44:23,920 Speaker 6: Of course, of course, good night, Kai. 744 00:44:23,840 --> 00:44:24,200 Speaker 3: Good night. 745 00:44:27,600 --> 00:44:31,399 Speaker 1: Attention listeners of the Therapy Gecko podcast. 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The shows involve a mix of 756 00:45:07,400 --> 00:45:11,960 Speaker 1: material and presentations from myself combined with a group Gecko 757 00:45:12,120 --> 00:45:15,680 Speaker 1: therapy session where members of the audience come on stage 758 00:45:15,760 --> 00:45:18,520 Speaker 1: to share things from their lives in front of a 759 00:45:18,520 --> 00:45:21,360 Speaker 1: big group of people, just like we do here. On 760 00:45:21,400 --> 00:45:24,040 Speaker 1: the podcast. Whether you're a fan of the podcast or 761 00:45:24,080 --> 00:45:26,480 Speaker 1: you have no idea what this is and you clicked 762 00:45:26,520 --> 00:45:28,760 Speaker 1: on it by accident, you're gonna have a great time 763 00:45:28,800 --> 00:45:31,600 Speaker 1: at the live show once again. Tickets are available right 764 00:45:31,640 --> 00:45:35,760 Speaker 1: now at therapy geckotour dot com or at the link 765 00:45:35,840 --> 00:45:38,879 Speaker 1: in the episode description. These are really fun shows. They're 766 00:45:38,920 --> 00:45:41,680 Speaker 1: always wild, they're always unpredictable, and I hope to see 767 00:45:41,719 --> 00:45:42,239 Speaker 1: you guys there. 768 00:45:43,560 --> 00:45:49,000 Speaker 6: From Addie, Hello, Hi is this guy? 769 00:45:49,600 --> 00:45:52,080 Speaker 1: Yes? Who is this? 770 00:45:52,080 --> 00:45:52,920 Speaker 8: This is Addie. 771 00:45:54,080 --> 00:45:56,399 Speaker 1: What's up Addie? How can I get you today? How 772 00:45:56,520 --> 00:45:58,719 Speaker 1: is life? What would you like to talk about on 773 00:45:58,800 --> 00:45:59,880 Speaker 1: the on the on the thing? 774 00:46:02,120 --> 00:46:06,920 Speaker 4: Life's pretty good right now? I have to say overall, yeah, 775 00:46:06,960 --> 00:46:09,200 Speaker 4: I don't know. I just I think I might have 776 00:46:09,239 --> 00:46:12,440 Speaker 4: a cool story about when I had we didn't do 777 00:46:12,760 --> 00:46:16,880 Speaker 4: psychosis that I could talk about. 778 00:46:18,440 --> 00:46:20,440 Speaker 1: Uh, sure, go ahead. 779 00:46:22,680 --> 00:46:25,520 Speaker 4: So there's a little bit of context, I guess to 780 00:46:25,640 --> 00:46:31,360 Speaker 4: kind of like bring the whole situation together. From about 781 00:46:31,360 --> 00:46:35,360 Speaker 4: when I was like sixteen up until twenty, I was 782 00:46:35,440 --> 00:46:37,480 Speaker 4: like a chronic weed smoker. 783 00:46:39,200 --> 00:46:40,759 Speaker 8: I was I. 784 00:46:40,760 --> 00:46:43,920 Speaker 4: Like started off not smoking too much, but it very quickly, like, 785 00:46:44,080 --> 00:46:46,959 Speaker 4: especially when I got to college, I was smoking every 786 00:46:47,000 --> 00:46:47,800 Speaker 4: single day. 787 00:46:48,840 --> 00:46:56,200 Speaker 8: And yeah, I stopped for about three years, and something 788 00:46:56,239 --> 00:46:58,960 Speaker 8: happened in my life that was I had a lot 789 00:46:59,000 --> 00:47:00,799 Speaker 8: going on and I was really stressed out. 790 00:47:00,840 --> 00:47:04,000 Speaker 4: I would definitely say I was addicted to weed and 791 00:47:04,080 --> 00:47:07,160 Speaker 4: I knew it. And so then I picked up smoking again, 792 00:47:07,480 --> 00:47:11,560 Speaker 4: and yeah, I guess my brain is just not one 793 00:47:11,600 --> 00:47:14,080 Speaker 4: of those brains that does well with weed, because I 794 00:47:14,160 --> 00:47:21,239 Speaker 4: ended up having a psychotic episode. So I basically like 795 00:47:21,440 --> 00:47:25,960 Speaker 4: I had never experienced it before. It was basically like 796 00:47:26,080 --> 00:47:32,120 Speaker 4: I completely lost touch of reality right, like I it 797 00:47:32,200 --> 00:47:35,319 Speaker 4: was so strange, like I don't know, Sorry, my thoughts 798 00:47:35,360 --> 00:47:40,560 Speaker 4: are all over the place, but I basically took a 799 00:47:40,640 --> 00:47:45,120 Speaker 4: hit off of a pen that was not like it 800 00:47:45,200 --> 00:47:49,920 Speaker 4: wasn't obviously from like a dispensary or anything. And I 801 00:47:49,960 --> 00:47:53,759 Speaker 4: remember getting into the shower and at the time, I 802 00:47:53,880 --> 00:47:55,680 Speaker 4: was really into Florence and the Machine. 803 00:47:55,719 --> 00:47:56,239 Speaker 9: I still am. 804 00:47:56,320 --> 00:47:59,160 Speaker 4: I love her, And while I was in the shower, 805 00:47:59,400 --> 00:48:03,239 Speaker 4: I felt like I was being spoken to by her, 806 00:48:03,960 --> 00:48:07,960 Speaker 4: like through her music. And also along with this, like 807 00:48:08,040 --> 00:48:11,279 Speaker 4: context wise, like I used to be super super religious, 808 00:48:12,440 --> 00:48:15,919 Speaker 4: I went to like a program to like get into ministry, like. 809 00:48:15,880 --> 00:48:17,720 Speaker 9: I was super super religious. 810 00:48:17,320 --> 00:48:17,880 Speaker 2: For a while. 811 00:48:19,880 --> 00:48:23,080 Speaker 4: And so while I was in the shower. I thought 812 00:48:23,080 --> 00:48:27,160 Speaker 4: that I was having a what like an epiphany. 813 00:48:28,280 --> 00:48:30,239 Speaker 7: Turns out I was just going into psychosis. 814 00:48:30,400 --> 00:48:34,000 Speaker 4: Didn't know that at the time, and I was like sobbing, 815 00:48:34,000 --> 00:48:36,040 Speaker 4: and I was like started coming up with like all 816 00:48:36,080 --> 00:48:40,000 Speaker 4: of these ideas, and like I saw this vision of 817 00:48:40,080 --> 00:48:43,759 Speaker 4: like basically my life right Like it started off with 818 00:48:43,880 --> 00:48:46,759 Speaker 4: just like flowers cooing in a field, and it was 819 00:48:46,840 --> 00:48:49,920 Speaker 4: like these flashes of images of like different things in 820 00:48:49,920 --> 00:48:53,240 Speaker 4: my life that like had happened or were going to happen, 821 00:48:54,960 --> 00:48:56,440 Speaker 4: at least how it felt. 822 00:48:57,800 --> 00:48:59,560 Speaker 6: And I started like. 823 00:48:59,520 --> 00:49:05,600 Speaker 4: Singing to the music, thinking that I was like supposed 824 00:49:05,600 --> 00:49:09,720 Speaker 4: to be calling out to other women and trying to 825 00:49:09,800 --> 00:49:13,840 Speaker 4: like send a message out. And at the time, like 826 00:49:13,880 --> 00:49:17,440 Speaker 4: when it first began, I thought, if this isn't real, 827 00:49:18,160 --> 00:49:21,480 Speaker 4: then nothing will happen. But if this is real, then 828 00:49:21,600 --> 00:49:24,720 Speaker 4: I'll get some sort of reaction like from my roommates 829 00:49:24,760 --> 00:49:28,480 Speaker 4: and stuff, because I was living in a dorm. And 830 00:49:28,560 --> 00:49:30,760 Speaker 4: so I sang for like an hour in the shower, 831 00:49:30,920 --> 00:49:33,760 Speaker 4: just like belting my lungs out, and I was super 832 00:49:33,840 --> 00:49:36,879 Speaker 4: like nervous after I can I. 833 00:49:36,760 --> 00:49:38,960 Speaker 1: I'm real quick, real quick, because some people in the 834 00:49:39,040 --> 00:49:41,600 Speaker 1: chat are mentioning this, Are you sure this was not 835 00:49:41,680 --> 00:49:45,120 Speaker 1: a dnt vape. 836 00:49:45,160 --> 00:49:49,640 Speaker 4: I'm almost I have no idea, I because it was 837 00:49:49,680 --> 00:49:50,360 Speaker 4: from a friend. 838 00:49:51,200 --> 00:49:53,960 Speaker 7: So, like she said, it was a weed pen. Nobody 839 00:49:54,000 --> 00:49:55,000 Speaker 7: else had this reaction. 840 00:49:55,160 --> 00:49:57,879 Speaker 4: Everyone else was fine, Like she was hitting it and 841 00:49:58,080 --> 00:50:01,359 Speaker 4: I was hitting it, and she didn't have any sort of. 842 00:50:01,360 --> 00:50:03,360 Speaker 6: Adverse effects to it. This was just me. 843 00:50:04,800 --> 00:50:07,880 Speaker 1: Maybe you maybe you hit the wrong button. Maybe it 844 00:50:07,960 --> 00:50:10,920 Speaker 1: was like, you know those markers have multiple colors. You 845 00:50:10,920 --> 00:50:13,880 Speaker 1: know the markers you have like multiple colors on you. 846 00:50:13,880 --> 00:50:18,120 Speaker 1: You probably hit the d MT button on this fucking pen. Yeah, 847 00:50:18,960 --> 00:50:23,839 Speaker 1: but yeah, that sounds I have no idea. I mean, 848 00:50:23,880 --> 00:50:27,080 Speaker 1: has that happened to you after the fact, has it 849 00:50:27,120 --> 00:50:28,839 Speaker 1: happened to you at any other times? Fucking weed? 850 00:50:30,280 --> 00:50:33,680 Speaker 4: So there was like, it's nothing like this, Like I 851 00:50:33,719 --> 00:50:36,560 Speaker 4: didn't go So in this case, I completely like lost 852 00:50:36,600 --> 00:50:39,400 Speaker 4: touch of reality. I thought I was the next Messiah 853 00:50:39,480 --> 00:50:41,640 Speaker 4: for like three days, and I would come in and 854 00:50:41,680 --> 00:50:44,080 Speaker 4: out of it. But like for the most part, like 855 00:50:44,280 --> 00:50:46,120 Speaker 4: I was walking around thinking that I was like a 856 00:50:46,160 --> 00:50:49,880 Speaker 4: deity on earth for like three days. I never experienced 857 00:50:49,880 --> 00:50:53,280 Speaker 4: that sort of like complete loss of touch of from reality. 858 00:50:53,760 --> 00:50:56,320 Speaker 6: But I did have what I now. 859 00:50:56,239 --> 00:50:59,120 Speaker 4: Realized through like therapy and talking to doctors what might 860 00:50:59,160 --> 00:51:02,520 Speaker 4: have been like a man induced episode from weed, like 861 00:51:02,560 --> 00:51:06,960 Speaker 4: a couple of years prior. So it's all really strange, 862 00:51:07,080 --> 00:51:09,520 Speaker 4: Like I don't really know how to explain it. 863 00:51:10,840 --> 00:51:12,040 Speaker 1: When's the last time you spoke to weed? 864 00:51:13,840 --> 00:51:14,480 Speaker 7: Over a year ago? 865 00:51:14,600 --> 00:51:18,160 Speaker 4: Now? Like I think almost maybe coming up on two years. 866 00:51:19,320 --> 00:51:22,840 Speaker 4: Uh yeah, maybe like a year and a half actually, 867 00:51:22,960 --> 00:51:23,239 Speaker 4: And do. 868 00:51:23,239 --> 00:51:24,960 Speaker 1: You do you feel do you have you had any 869 00:51:25,000 --> 00:51:26,720 Speaker 1: psychotic episodes since? 870 00:51:27,000 --> 00:51:27,160 Speaker 3: No? 871 00:51:27,280 --> 00:51:29,279 Speaker 4: I haven't, thankfully, No are you? 872 00:51:29,360 --> 00:51:32,680 Speaker 1: Are you feeling better? Does does it feel good to 873 00:51:32,680 --> 00:51:35,400 Speaker 1: be attached to reality or do you sometimes wish. 874 00:51:35,239 --> 00:51:36,279 Speaker 8: To touch a little more? 875 00:51:37,080 --> 00:51:39,040 Speaker 4: You know, it's it's a little strange. It was the 876 00:51:39,080 --> 00:51:42,400 Speaker 4: most terrifying experience of my life. I will say I 877 00:51:42,480 --> 00:51:45,280 Speaker 4: feel very happy to be grounded and attached to reality. 878 00:51:46,080 --> 00:51:47,680 Speaker 6: I do miss the euphoria. 879 00:51:47,880 --> 00:51:49,759 Speaker 7: I guess that I felt. 880 00:51:49,800 --> 00:51:52,759 Speaker 4: Kind of just like the carelessness. And I mean, if 881 00:51:52,800 --> 00:51:53,600 Speaker 4: you feel. 882 00:51:53,280 --> 00:51:55,040 Speaker 7: Like a god like you feel pretty great. 883 00:51:56,120 --> 00:51:59,560 Speaker 4: But yeah, I think I missed the like euphoria that 884 00:51:59,560 --> 00:52:01,360 Speaker 4: I had felt at the time. But I do not 885 00:52:01,480 --> 00:52:04,000 Speaker 4: miss the fear that I felt when I was kind 886 00:52:04,000 --> 00:52:06,960 Speaker 4: of coming down and realizing what was happening. Because it's 887 00:52:06,960 --> 00:52:10,640 Speaker 4: scary to lose, uh, you know, control of your mind like. 888 00:52:10,640 --> 00:52:13,200 Speaker 1: That when you said you thought you were the Messiah 889 00:52:13,320 --> 00:52:14,960 Speaker 1: for three days? What did that work? 890 00:52:15,120 --> 00:52:15,200 Speaker 4: Like? 891 00:52:17,040 --> 00:52:19,120 Speaker 1: What were those thoughts? 892 00:52:20,280 --> 00:52:23,120 Speaker 4: So the night that it happened was definitely the worst. 893 00:52:24,080 --> 00:52:26,800 Speaker 4: I quite literally thought that I was going through a 894 00:52:26,880 --> 00:52:31,520 Speaker 4: transformation that was like I was basically taking on all 895 00:52:31,560 --> 00:52:35,480 Speaker 4: of the sin of the world and like turning into Jesus, 896 00:52:35,520 --> 00:52:38,600 Speaker 4: Like I was going to be the next Jesus basically, 897 00:52:38,640 --> 00:52:40,600 Speaker 4: and so I needed to like and I had like 898 00:52:40,680 --> 00:52:43,720 Speaker 4: some sort of message to like spread to the world 899 00:52:43,800 --> 00:52:47,160 Speaker 4: about like God and mother Nature and stuff. So like 900 00:52:47,320 --> 00:52:51,480 Speaker 4: I I physically like at one point was feeling like 901 00:52:51,600 --> 00:52:55,240 Speaker 4: the pain of like the world on in my body. 902 00:52:56,280 --> 00:52:58,960 Speaker 4: And then the next day, like after I kind of 903 00:52:59,000 --> 00:53:02,399 Speaker 4: like what went throughquote unquote my like transformation the next day, 904 00:53:02,920 --> 00:53:04,440 Speaker 4: this is when I started to kind of come in 905 00:53:04,480 --> 00:53:07,000 Speaker 4: and out of it, where like there were moments where 906 00:53:07,200 --> 00:53:10,640 Speaker 4: I like was walking around my campus like quite literally 907 00:53:10,719 --> 00:53:14,360 Speaker 4: thinking like nobody here knows that I'm a god, like 908 00:53:14,400 --> 00:53:16,799 Speaker 4: that I am like a deity. And then I would 909 00:53:16,880 --> 00:53:18,360 Speaker 4: kind of come down a little bit and be like 910 00:53:18,680 --> 00:53:22,000 Speaker 4: I'm crazy, and then I kind of like flip flop. 911 00:53:22,120 --> 00:53:23,280 Speaker 4: I don't know if that makes sense. 912 00:53:23,440 --> 00:53:25,759 Speaker 1: But what if you were a god, would you be 913 00:53:25,800 --> 00:53:28,160 Speaker 1: a benevolent one? Or were you like or were you 914 00:53:28,160 --> 00:53:30,480 Speaker 1: walking around like nobody here knows that I'm God, so 915 00:53:30,520 --> 00:53:31,640 Speaker 1: they better not fuck with me. 916 00:53:34,520 --> 00:53:37,680 Speaker 7: I you know, I think it's we're just saying think 917 00:53:37,760 --> 00:53:39,759 Speaker 7: a little bit of both. Like I was kind of 918 00:53:39,800 --> 00:53:43,240 Speaker 7: like I was super confident, and most of like I guess, 919 00:53:43,239 --> 00:53:46,439 Speaker 7: what I wanted to do was like like spread love. 920 00:53:46,560 --> 00:53:49,560 Speaker 7: Like I'm a very loving person, so I think mostly benevolent. 921 00:53:49,600 --> 00:53:52,359 Speaker 7: But there was also a side of me that. 922 00:53:52,400 --> 00:53:54,840 Speaker 4: Was like, no one can fucking touch me, and like 923 00:53:54,920 --> 00:53:57,240 Speaker 4: if they did, then you know, I'll show them. 924 00:53:57,440 --> 00:54:01,200 Speaker 1: You know, have you recently else at all as though 925 00:54:01,640 --> 00:54:03,680 Speaker 1: you might be a god of some kind? 926 00:54:06,239 --> 00:54:09,799 Speaker 4: I don't think so. Now I feel very normal, Like 927 00:54:09,880 --> 00:54:12,840 Speaker 4: I feel like I'm just your average you know person. 928 00:54:14,520 --> 00:54:19,279 Speaker 1: Well that's good, that's probably healthy. It's probably healthy not 929 00:54:19,840 --> 00:54:22,959 Speaker 1: thinking that you're thinking that you're a god. But maybe 930 00:54:23,040 --> 00:54:25,640 Speaker 1: maybe a little fun for a day. 931 00:54:25,840 --> 00:54:27,960 Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, I mean for a day if I could, 932 00:54:28,040 --> 00:54:29,640 Speaker 4: if I could do it, I think I would do 933 00:54:29,719 --> 00:54:34,200 Speaker 4: it just to you know, see what it's like. 934 00:54:34,280 --> 00:54:34,640 Speaker 7: But I don't. 935 00:54:34,840 --> 00:54:37,000 Speaker 4: I think that's a lot of responsibility to carry on 936 00:54:37,080 --> 00:54:38,880 Speaker 4: my shoulders to do it, you know, full. 937 00:54:38,719 --> 00:54:43,719 Speaker 1: Time, listen. Anytime you want, you could go into a 938 00:54:43,760 --> 00:54:45,520 Speaker 1: volunt You could probably go into some form of a 939 00:54:45,600 --> 00:54:52,680 Speaker 1: voluntary psychosis. Yeah, but it's not I don't think that's 940 00:54:52,719 --> 00:54:59,560 Speaker 1: a good idea to voluntarily go insane because you want 941 00:54:59,560 --> 00:55:00,920 Speaker 1: to feel like God. 942 00:55:03,719 --> 00:55:04,359 Speaker 8: Yeah. 943 00:55:04,560 --> 00:55:07,719 Speaker 4: Yeah, I think if something bad enough happened where in 944 00:55:07,760 --> 00:55:10,799 Speaker 4: my life where I was like I don't want to 945 00:55:10,800 --> 00:55:13,680 Speaker 4: be a human anymore, maybe that would be like a 946 00:55:13,840 --> 00:55:16,239 Speaker 4: super you know, it would be a super helpful way 947 00:55:16,400 --> 00:55:21,040 Speaker 4: to try to just let go. But yeah, yeah, I 948 00:55:21,040 --> 00:55:21,400 Speaker 4: don't know. 949 00:55:22,880 --> 00:55:23,760 Speaker 1: What's your name again? 950 00:55:24,719 --> 00:55:25,200 Speaker 8: Addie? 951 00:55:25,680 --> 00:55:26,920 Speaker 1: Is there anything else you want to say to the 952 00:55:26,920 --> 00:55:28,520 Speaker 1: people of the computer before we go? Addie? 953 00:55:31,480 --> 00:55:33,560 Speaker 4: Yeah, tell someone that you love them today. 954 00:55:34,920 --> 00:55:41,160 Speaker 1: Tell someone that you love them today. Tell God that 955 00:55:41,200 --> 00:55:47,960 Speaker 1: you love them today. Maybe he'll love you back, especially 956 00:55:48,000 --> 00:55:52,360 Speaker 1: if it maybe he'll stop making all those horrible, horrible 957 00:55:52,400 --> 00:55:54,799 Speaker 1: things happen to you if you tell them you love 958 00:55:54,840 --> 00:55:59,640 Speaker 1: them once in a while. All right, Bye, Eddie, Bye. 959 00:55:59,520 --> 00:56:01,520 Speaker 6: Thanks guy. 960 00:56:03,040 --> 00:56:06,239 Speaker 1: Hello. Hello, what is your name? 961 00:56:07,200 --> 00:56:07,600 Speaker 6: Wow? 962 00:56:07,719 --> 00:56:10,000 Speaker 9: It's Alyssa. I can't believe this. I've been watching the 963 00:56:10,040 --> 00:56:11,320 Speaker 9: stream for years. 964 00:56:11,760 --> 00:56:15,040 Speaker 1: Well, glad to have you here, Alyssa says, here that 965 00:56:15,120 --> 00:56:18,919 Speaker 1: you are concerned you're becoming too much like your mother. 966 00:56:20,800 --> 00:56:23,040 Speaker 9: Yes, and I don't mean that in a bad way. 967 00:56:23,200 --> 00:56:24,960 Speaker 9: I love my mom. She's my best friend. 968 00:56:25,760 --> 00:56:28,120 Speaker 3: But I just. 969 00:56:29,719 --> 00:56:34,560 Speaker 9: I don't know. It's kind of having an impact on 970 00:56:34,719 --> 00:56:38,800 Speaker 9: some of my decisions. I think I messaged you before 971 00:56:38,840 --> 00:56:41,960 Speaker 9: that saying that I'm thinking about becoming a therapist and 972 00:56:42,000 --> 00:56:45,520 Speaker 9: my mom's a therapist. So I've always thought I don't 973 00:56:45,520 --> 00:56:49,560 Speaker 9: want to do that because that's what she does. But 974 00:56:49,680 --> 00:56:51,359 Speaker 9: now I do want to do it, but I don't 975 00:56:51,400 --> 00:56:53,080 Speaker 9: know if I should because that's what she does. Does 976 00:56:53,120 --> 00:56:53,720 Speaker 9: that make sense? 977 00:56:55,200 --> 00:56:58,880 Speaker 1: It makes sense in theory, but in practice, why do 978 00:56:58,960 --> 00:56:59,479 Speaker 1: you care? 979 00:56:59,640 --> 00:57:02,839 Speaker 9: Yeah, exactly. I don't know. It's just me and my 980 00:57:02,840 --> 00:57:06,640 Speaker 9: mom are literally the same person she's We're both the 981 00:57:06,640 --> 00:57:11,000 Speaker 9: same personality type, we're both Leo's, We're very similar. I 982 00:57:11,040 --> 00:57:13,680 Speaker 9: love her, she's my role model, but I don't want to. 983 00:57:15,440 --> 00:57:19,320 Speaker 9: I guess it's a stupid thing. Like if I, quote 984 00:57:19,400 --> 00:57:22,480 Speaker 9: unquote grew up to be like my mom, that wouldn't 985 00:57:22,600 --> 00:57:24,560 Speaker 9: be a bad thing because she's great. 986 00:57:25,600 --> 00:57:27,320 Speaker 1: Well, I mean, take your mom out of it. Like, 987 00:57:27,360 --> 00:57:28,760 Speaker 1: do you want to be a therapist? 988 00:57:29,720 --> 00:57:33,280 Speaker 9: Yeah? I do, I've I always have, but I've always 989 00:57:33,280 --> 00:57:36,080 Speaker 9: told myself, I'm not going to do that because that's 990 00:57:36,080 --> 00:57:37,560 Speaker 9: what my mom does. I don't want to do what 991 00:57:37,600 --> 00:57:40,960 Speaker 9: my mom does. But it's the only thing that I 992 00:57:41,040 --> 00:57:43,560 Speaker 9: keep coming back to, Like I'm so unsatisfied in my 993 00:57:43,680 --> 00:57:52,280 Speaker 9: job right now, and I'm just I've always told myself 994 00:57:52,400 --> 00:57:58,240 Speaker 9: like maybe when I'm older, somewhere down the road, but 995 00:57:58,360 --> 00:58:00,160 Speaker 9: it's just the thing I keep coming back to. So 996 00:58:00,200 --> 00:58:04,040 Speaker 9: I don't know. I guess that's saying it out loud 997 00:58:04,120 --> 00:58:06,520 Speaker 9: makes me realize it's kind of a silly concern. 998 00:58:09,160 --> 00:58:13,000 Speaker 1: I mean, yeah, like I mean, point case closed. If 999 00:58:13,040 --> 00:58:15,760 Speaker 1: you want to be a therapist, then why does it 1000 00:58:15,800 --> 00:58:17,040 Speaker 1: matter if your mom was one? 1001 00:58:17,760 --> 00:58:23,280 Speaker 9: Well that's true, but also like I'm worried. I guess 1002 00:58:23,320 --> 00:58:28,640 Speaker 9: nobody is one hundred percent uh mentally healthy. Like I 1003 00:58:28,760 --> 00:58:34,160 Speaker 9: definitely still have my own stuff I'm working out, So 1004 00:58:34,560 --> 00:58:38,440 Speaker 9: I guess another part of my concern is, like, is it, 1005 00:58:38,880 --> 00:58:43,840 Speaker 9: you know, should I be the person giving people advice 1006 00:58:44,240 --> 00:58:46,120 Speaker 9: when I don't even have my own shaw worked out? 1007 00:58:46,360 --> 00:58:46,600 Speaker 9: You know? 1008 00:58:47,520 --> 00:58:51,120 Speaker 1: I mean, I'm depressed and anxious and completely insane, and 1009 00:58:51,640 --> 00:58:56,320 Speaker 1: for some reason people continue to ask me what they 1010 00:58:56,320 --> 00:59:00,520 Speaker 1: should do with their lives. Oh true, But I'm also 1011 00:59:00,560 --> 00:59:03,800 Speaker 1: I'm not a real therapist. I'm a fucking internet streamer guy. 1012 00:59:03,960 --> 00:59:10,520 Speaker 1: So but I I don't. I look, here's my final 1013 00:59:10,560 --> 00:59:15,040 Speaker 1: opinion on this. What's alyssa is that, like, I mean, 1014 00:59:15,040 --> 00:59:17,320 Speaker 1: stop giving yourself reasons not to do a thing that 1015 00:59:17,360 --> 00:59:19,480 Speaker 1: you want to do, and they're not good. They're not 1016 00:59:19,520 --> 00:59:21,280 Speaker 1: good reasons. Like if you want to do the thing, 1017 00:59:21,360 --> 00:59:22,000 Speaker 1: go do the thing. 1018 00:59:24,120 --> 00:59:27,040 Speaker 9: Yeah, no, that's a good point. It's good to have 1019 00:59:27,280 --> 00:59:29,600 Speaker 9: somebody else to tell me that I just wish. So 1020 00:59:29,720 --> 00:59:32,720 Speaker 9: I feel so directionless, Like sometimes you. 1021 00:59:32,720 --> 00:59:34,200 Speaker 10: Just want what do you mean you feel hold on? 1022 00:59:34,240 --> 00:59:36,760 Speaker 10: Hold on what you keep saying this thing? What do 1023 00:59:36,800 --> 00:59:38,720 Speaker 10: you mean you feel directionless? You have a direction, you 1024 00:59:38,720 --> 00:59:40,360 Speaker 10: have a thing you're telling me over and over again 1025 00:59:40,400 --> 00:59:42,640 Speaker 10: that you want to do. That's the opposite of direction 1026 00:59:42,720 --> 00:59:43,240 Speaker 10: list that's the. 1027 00:59:43,160 --> 00:59:47,240 Speaker 9: Direction out of the country. So that's the other part 1028 00:59:47,240 --> 00:59:50,320 Speaker 9: of it. So what I don't know, I also want 1029 00:59:50,360 --> 00:59:52,439 Speaker 9: to move out of the country, so that's the other 1030 00:59:52,480 --> 00:59:56,920 Speaker 9: part of it. So it's like I can I can 1031 00:59:56,960 --> 00:59:59,560 Speaker 9: apply to grad school here, but then I'm kind of 1032 00:59:59,600 --> 01:00:03,160 Speaker 9: like locking myself into I guess I'm not because I 1033 01:00:03,160 --> 01:00:07,600 Speaker 9: could work remotely once I'm licensed. But the other option 1034 01:00:07,680 --> 01:00:11,240 Speaker 9: would be to apply to grad programs outside of the country. 1035 01:00:11,640 --> 01:00:13,800 Speaker 9: I just can't decide what route to take. 1036 01:00:16,040 --> 01:00:18,280 Speaker 1: What country do you want to move to? 1037 01:00:20,360 --> 01:00:27,000 Speaker 9: Kind of I'm very open honestly. That's like France is one. 1038 01:00:27,800 --> 01:00:30,040 Speaker 9: I just got back from a trip to France. It 1039 01:00:30,160 --> 01:00:32,880 Speaker 9: was really lovely. I can speak a tiny tiny bit 1040 01:00:32,920 --> 01:00:40,160 Speaker 9: of French. Uh, maybe the UK. Those would be my 1041 01:00:40,200 --> 01:00:40,680 Speaker 9: top two. 1042 01:00:40,880 --> 01:00:46,120 Speaker 1: I would say, Okay, this all sounds good. I can, 1043 01:00:46,160 --> 01:00:48,600 Speaker 1: I can, I can. I be honest with you, Yeah, 1044 01:00:48,680 --> 01:00:57,120 Speaker 1: please you there's no reason to invent reasons why you 1045 01:00:57,160 --> 01:01:02,560 Speaker 1: shouldn't go do fun, cool, exciting things, right, You're like, 1046 01:01:02,840 --> 01:01:06,800 Speaker 1: That's what I'm observing is that you're inventing reasons. Yeah, 1047 01:01:07,520 --> 01:01:10,360 Speaker 1: be scared and happy that don't that don't exist. 1048 01:01:12,280 --> 01:01:17,160 Speaker 9: Yeah, because it's just I guess hard to actually like 1049 01:01:17,400 --> 01:01:19,840 Speaker 9: do the thing. You know, you just have to decide to. 1050 01:01:19,880 --> 01:01:23,600 Speaker 1: Just that's the thing. I mean, your mother, the fact 1051 01:01:23,640 --> 01:01:27,080 Speaker 1: that your mom was a therapist, like who, like, who cares? 1052 01:01:27,160 --> 01:01:29,720 Speaker 1: That doesn't matter at all. You want to do this thing, 1053 01:01:29,800 --> 01:01:30,720 Speaker 1: We'll go do it. 1054 01:01:31,960 --> 01:01:33,480 Speaker 9: No, you're right, You're totally right. 1055 01:01:35,400 --> 01:01:36,920 Speaker 3: Uh have to figure out. 1056 01:01:36,800 --> 01:01:42,520 Speaker 1: Where I mean being a therapist in French? That sounds cool? 1057 01:01:42,520 --> 01:01:45,160 Speaker 1: They make a lot of sad, it probably would be sad. 1058 01:01:45,160 --> 01:01:47,600 Speaker 1: They make a lot of sad, It probably would be hard. 1059 01:01:47,640 --> 01:01:50,560 Speaker 1: They make a lot of sad, black and white French 1060 01:01:50,640 --> 01:01:54,560 Speaker 1: movies that make people very sad. So I say, France, 1061 01:01:54,600 --> 01:01:56,440 Speaker 1: I think you should go to friends because that's probably 1062 01:01:56,440 --> 01:01:58,920 Speaker 1: where the most that's probably where the most depressed people are, 1063 01:01:58,960 --> 01:02:01,200 Speaker 1: and that's where you'll get make the most money being 1064 01:02:01,200 --> 01:02:01,840 Speaker 1: a therapist. 1065 01:02:01,920 --> 01:02:06,520 Speaker 9: So I gotta learn the language a little better than 1066 01:02:06,520 --> 01:02:09,000 Speaker 9: I I do know it already. 1067 01:02:09,480 --> 01:02:10,640 Speaker 1: Is there anything else you want to say to the 1068 01:02:10,640 --> 01:02:11,880 Speaker 1: people of the computer before we go? 1069 01:02:13,920 --> 01:02:17,360 Speaker 9: No, I don't think so. Thanks for calling, Thanks for. 1070 01:02:18,760 --> 01:02:23,400 Speaker 1: Thanks for talking to me on the phone anytime. 1071 01:02:24,600 --> 01:02:26,080 Speaker 9: Bye bye. 1072 01:02:28,800 --> 01:02:32,280 Speaker 3: Never Beacond goes on the line making us oone calls 1073 01:02:32,360 --> 01:02:32,920 Speaker 3: every night. 1074 01:02:33,280 --> 01:02:36,120 Speaker 1: Never Beacon goes to side, just teaching news. 1075 01:02:36,920 --> 01:02:37,400 Speaker 3: Good line. 1076 01:02:37,840 --> 01:02:39,800 Speaker 1: Money's not really exper