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<v Speaker 1>I'm Maria Inojosa. Nose Bayan.

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<v Speaker 2>Marta Lopez was sitting in the passenger seat of the

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<v Speaker 2>family car in October of twenty twenty one while her

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<v Speaker 2>husband Freddie drove through the streets of Los Angeles. She

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<v Speaker 2>was checking the local news on her phone when something

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<v Speaker 2>on Univision caught her attention.

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<v Speaker 1>There is Milo Sintras Families cal do Asta.

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<v Speaker 2>The city of Los Angeles was launching a new program

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<v Speaker 2>to support low income families, especially those hit hard by

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<v Speaker 2>the pandemic. But it all sounded Martha thought just too

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<v Speaker 2>good to be true. The program would give them one

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<v Speaker 2>thousand dollars a month for one year. Martha's husband had

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<v Speaker 2>lost his job early in the pandemic and she was

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<v Speaker 2>a stay at home mom taking care of their two

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<v Speaker 2>young daughters, so the family hadn't had a stable income

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<v Speaker 2>for more than six months. Those way up, so Martha

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<v Speaker 2>decided to apply for the program. About six months later,

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<v Speaker 2>she got the call.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah you medi here on Yosa sikomon chok o Hami No.

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<v Speaker 2>She couldn't believe she had been selected. It felt like

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<v Speaker 2>a miracle.

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<v Speaker 4>She says, Anda youady a media Yes, yes, staff to

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<v Speaker 4>Premier mild is the miss.

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<v Speaker 2>And then Martha got her debit card with the first

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<v Speaker 2>one thousand dollars on it, ready for her to use. However,

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<v Speaker 2>she wanted no rules, no restrictions, no receipts needed from

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<v Speaker 2>Futuru media and pr X. It's Latino USA. I'm Maria

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<v Speaker 2>no Josa today, no strings attached. What happens when people

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<v Speaker 2>who are ruggling to make ends meet get a stable

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<v Speaker 2>income from the government. We look at how this strategy

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<v Speaker 2>could help tackle inequality in the United States. Maybe you've

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<v Speaker 2>heard this term before. Universal basic income. It's the idea

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<v Speaker 2>of giving people cash regularly and unconditionally, so that they

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<v Speaker 2>can spend the money as they wish, regardless of their

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<v Speaker 2>economic status.

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<v Speaker 1>Or immediate need.

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<v Speaker 2>It's all to ensure a basic living standard for everyone.

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<v Speaker 2>It's a concept that's become pretty popular in recent years,

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<v Speaker 2>especially with the fear of technological advances leaving more and

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<v Speaker 2>more people out of work. In his twenty twenty presidential campaign,

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<v Speaker 2>tech entrepreneur Andrew Yang ran on the promise to provide

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<v Speaker 2>people universal basic income. It was the first time a

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<v Speaker 2>candidate had done that.

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<v Speaker 5>Soniversal can Come.

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<v Speaker 2>Would be one thousand dollars dividend for every American adult

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<v Speaker 2>citizen every month under my plan. Cash programs aren't new.

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<v Speaker 2>Different variations have existed for decades, both inside and outside

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<v Speaker 2>of the US. They often target specific groups in need,

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<v Speaker 2>and they try to promote certain behaviors like restricting what

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<v Speaker 2>people can or can't spend the money on. But the

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<v Speaker 2>idea of the government handing people free money is something

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<v Speaker 2>that some Americans still find uncomfortable, or maybe many did

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<v Speaker 2>before the stimulus checks received during the pandemic made us

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<v Speaker 2>a lot more familiar.

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<v Speaker 1>With this idea.

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<v Speaker 6>Federal stimulus checks are being distributed this week, and it's

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<v Speaker 6>a welcome relief for those out of work and hoping

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<v Speaker 6>for better days to come.

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<v Speaker 2>Even before the pandemic, California was already leading a kind

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<v Speaker 2>of renaissance of the basic income idea. More than one

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<v Speaker 2>hundred guaranteed income programs have launched across the country, and

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<v Speaker 2>most are found in the state of California. All of

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<v Speaker 2>them are still in the pilot phase. They usually run

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<v Speaker 2>for one or two years. The results have been interesting,

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<v Speaker 2>but these conversations have mostly stayed inside city councils and

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<v Speaker 2>university classrooms. So what's it like for the people who

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<v Speaker 2>are participating in these programs? How is a guaranteed income

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<v Speaker 2>making a difference for them?

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<v Speaker 1>If at all?

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<v Speaker 2>Latino USA Senior producer Marta Martinez spent a month in

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<v Speaker 2>Los Angeles following two women who participated in one of

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<v Speaker 2>the biggest guaranteed income programs in the country and where

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<v Speaker 2>half of the beneficiaries are Latinos and Latinas. Here's Marta

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<v Speaker 2>with the story.

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<v Speaker 3>Ola p Pasa see Oh Stuck here a Plan.

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<v Speaker 1>It's January twenty fifth, and the twenty fifth of the

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<v Speaker 1>month is when everything starts for participants of Big Leap.

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<v Speaker 1>That's the guaranteed basic income program the City of Los

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<v Speaker 1>Angeles launched in twenty twenty two. Marta Lopev, who we

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<v Speaker 1>met at the beginning of the show, is one of

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<v Speaker 1>over thirty two hundred people who got selected, and almost

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<v Speaker 1>eighty percent of them are women.

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<v Speaker 4>Nokamira for Tunaa Perosi is the Kreya Mucco.

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<v Speaker 1>Marta feels very lucky. More than fifty thousand people applied.

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<v Speaker 3>Sandamlas Say is the La man Larba.

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<v Speaker 1>Marta, who is from Honduras, has been running around the

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<v Speaker 1>house since six am. She's also thirty eighty years old,

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<v Speaker 1>the median age of Bigly participants. She has straight, dark

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<v Speaker 1>chocolate hair cut in the perfect horizontal line right above

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<v Speaker 1>her shoulders. Her prominent cheeks and forehead are sprinkled with freckles.

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<v Speaker 1>Media the program coordinators put me in touch with Martha

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<v Speaker 1>and some other participants who feel comfortable sharing their experiences publicly. Today,

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<v Speaker 1>Martha will get a transfer of one thousand dollars on

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<v Speaker 1>her program debit card for her to spend however she wants.

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<v Speaker 1>Martha only has three deposits left. Her twelve months are

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<v Speaker 1>almost up. Today, Martha hasn't been able to go to

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<v Speaker 1>the ATM to retreat the money, as she usually does

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<v Speaker 1>on the twenty fifth of the.

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<v Speaker 7>Month if on the Yoma is protecting Locala.

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<v Speaker 1>Her daughter, Lizzie, who is eight years old, is sick again,

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<v Speaker 1>so Martha had to stay home and take care of

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<v Speaker 1>her water in Lawuka, the skinny girl with black, shiny

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<v Speaker 1>eyes and two missing frontis, has asthma, and the unusually

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<v Speaker 1>cool temperatures California has been experiencing this winter are testing

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<v Speaker 1>her health. She's been missing school more often than Martha

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<v Speaker 1>would like to beta, and because Lizzie didn't go to school,

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<v Speaker 1>her little sister, Sophia, who is five years old, didn't

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<v Speaker 1>want to go either. No yeah, yeah, yeah.

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<v Speaker 7>Chow.

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<v Speaker 1>Sophia prefers to spend the afternoon hanging from her mother's

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<v Speaker 1>neck and kissing her. She's the clown of the house.

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<v Speaker 1>You never know what will come out of her unfiltered mouth.

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<v Speaker 1>The family of four lives in a one bedroom apartment

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<v Speaker 1>in South Lay, tacked between the One and Freeway and Broadway,

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<v Speaker 1>immersed in the never ending buzz of traffic.

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<v Speaker 7>It's a wainbow. She loves rainbows.

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<v Speaker 1>It's a welcoming home. The living room is filled with toys,

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<v Speaker 1>and there are studio pictures of Lizzie and Sophia hanging

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<v Speaker 1>on several walls.

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<v Speaker 3>Preparing caldo gaina una ros blanco.

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<v Speaker 1>Marta is preparing Lizzie's favorite food, calo hen soup to

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<v Speaker 1>help her recover from her cold. Well she cuts the vegetables.

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<v Speaker 1>Martha shares some tips on how she tries to save

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<v Speaker 1>money Parta.

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<v Speaker 3>De casa, manera massabien and too pecto rodinero bradio La

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<v Speaker 3>casa so significant.

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<v Speaker 1>She cooks at home every day because it's healthier and

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<v Speaker 1>cheaper than eating out.

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<v Speaker 4>Termina sien dome na al gore let's to burget mohrhence.

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<v Speaker 3>Mano.

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<v Speaker 1>Also, eating out can be more of a concern than

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<v Speaker 1>a fun experience for the family because, besides having asthma,

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<v Speaker 1>Lizzie has a severe allergy to cow's milk. Lizzie's fragile

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<v Speaker 1>health has limited MARTA's options to find a full time

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<v Speaker 1>job because she needs to keep a clothes eye on

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<v Speaker 1>her at all times. The family's earnings are under the

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<v Speaker 1>federal poverty line that was less than twenty seven dollars

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<v Speaker 1>a year for a family of four in twenty twenty one,

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<v Speaker 1>and they rely on food stems for their food supply

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<v Speaker 1>that's usually enough for the month. Lately, inflation has made

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<v Speaker 1>things tighter, but Martha says there are some items that

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<v Speaker 1>she just cannot not buy, like cooking oil.

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<v Speaker 3>Lotre go cord mediavo uno inmoteroluso Martin.

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<v Speaker 1>It's oil to fry food or to make her seasonings.

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<v Speaker 1>So instead of buying two bottles now she buys one

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<v Speaker 1>and moderates use. Having the extra help of one thousand

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<v Speaker 1>dollars a month through the city's program has allowed the

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<v Speaker 1>family to afford themselves a caprico every once in a.

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<v Speaker 3>While prove tacos so they were sen.

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<v Speaker 1>Guando Sunday is smartas day to rest and be with

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<v Speaker 1>her family. Sometimes they eat out, usually tackles, and during

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<v Speaker 1>the summer, she took the girls to the aquarium or

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<v Speaker 1>the beach, Sophia Lizzie. Dinner is ready, but only Sophia

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<v Speaker 1>shows up with her bubbly eyes and mischievous smiles. Lizzie

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<v Speaker 1>has fallen asleep in the bedroom while watching cartoons. Well

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<v Speaker 1>we eat caloa. Sofia tells me where babies come from.

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<v Speaker 1>She says, parents buy them.

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<v Speaker 7>At stores, My mom my Fami.

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<v Speaker 1>Marta came to the United States in twenty fourteen. It

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<v Speaker 1>wasn't her first time visiting, but this time Martha wasn't

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<v Speaker 1>traveling alone. She was pregnant with Lizzi. She first lived

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<v Speaker 1>with her sister in Philadelphia, and that's where she gave

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<v Speaker 1>birth to Lizzi on her own. Her husband, Freddi was

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<v Speaker 1>still back in on duras im Asalio. Lizzie was beautiful,

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<v Speaker 1>like a little doll, Marca says, but it was a

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<v Speaker 1>difficult time for her.

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<v Speaker 3>Not dino yo barra barastra, mihiirago vien duruwa is dressed.

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<v Speaker 1>Martha didn't have money to buy clothes for her daughter,

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<v Speaker 1>not even when they left the hospital. So when Lizzie

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<v Speaker 1>was three months old, Martha had to start working at

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<v Speaker 1>a factory packaging fruit. She worried about so many things.

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<v Speaker 1>Ami Freddie wasn't there to support her. She had to

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<v Speaker 1>earn money to pay for rent a babysitter, to cover

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<v Speaker 1>for her daughter's basic needs and her own. On top

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<v Speaker 1>of the financial stress Martha was dealing with. This was

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<v Speaker 1>nine months old when she was diagnosed with a severe

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<v Speaker 1>allergy to cow's milk. Martha felt like she had failed.

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<v Speaker 1>She started having trouble sleeping, She lost her appetite, her

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<v Speaker 1>hair started falling off.

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<v Speaker 3>But as dion Dia k.

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<v Speaker 1>One day, when she got back from work, she felt

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<v Speaker 1>like her body was exploding. You imps.

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<v Speaker 3>Or Media fell on a party.

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<v Speaker 1>Scared, she couldn't breathe. A tingling sensation spread across the

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<v Speaker 1>left side of her body.

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<v Speaker 3>To the girl, let's say you memor your memoir.

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<v Speaker 1>Martha thought she was going to die. At the hospital,

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<v Speaker 1>doctors told her she had had a panic attack. She

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<v Speaker 1>had never heard that term before, but Marta knew that

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<v Speaker 1>going back to Honduda's was not an option. Two of

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<v Speaker 1>her brothers, who run a bus company, had been killed

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<v Speaker 1>by criminal gangs who demanded a quota, a monthly payment

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<v Speaker 1>in exchange for their safety. Meha Caparos, Martha was scared

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<v Speaker 1>that in Honduras. She could get killed at any moment. Eventually,

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<v Speaker 1>Freddie came to the US and the family moved to

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<v Speaker 1>Los Angeles. Martha gave birth to their second daughter, Sophia,

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<v Speaker 1>and became a stay at home mamuando. When they moved,

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<v Speaker 1>she asked Freddy half jokingly to live near her hospital.

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<v Speaker 3>Well, sim maybe then well.

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<v Speaker 1>Martha says that after the panic attack, her life has

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<v Speaker 1>never been the same. The next day, on January twenty sixth,

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<v Speaker 1>I accompany Marta to get her big lip deposit at

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<v Speaker 1>an ATM inside a supermarket in South La Liza didn't

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<v Speaker 1>go to school today either. She still hasn't fully recovered

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<v Speaker 1>from her code. This is the ATM Marta uses most

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<v Speaker 1>of the time to get her cash from the program.

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<v Speaker 1>She inserts the card into the ATM slot, A button

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<v Speaker 1>appears on the screen that allows her to directly withdraw

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<v Speaker 1>one thousand dollars at once. The program decided to distribute

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<v Speaker 1>the money through prepaid debit cards because they were looking

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<v Speaker 1>for a system that would be flexible but also safe.

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<v Speaker 1>Some of the participants don't have bank accounts, and some

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<v Speaker 1>people aren't used to making card payments.

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<v Speaker 3>Gussie its list.

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<v Speaker 1>In less than a minute. Martha has the cash in

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<v Speaker 1>her hands and she quickly puts the stack of bills

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<v Speaker 1>inside of her purse, except for a couple of twenties

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<v Speaker 1>she keeps in her pocket.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, thank you and nich manus putla Ana.

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<v Speaker 8>Met with.

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<v Speaker 1>These deposits make Martha feel secure and give her the

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<v Speaker 1>confidence that she'll be able to pay for her basic

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<v Speaker 1>expenses each month, which are around fifteen hundred dollars without rent.

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<v Speaker 1>The family pays a little over one thousand dollars a

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<v Speaker 1>month for their one bedroom apartment. Martha uses five hundred

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<v Speaker 1>from the Big Leap program for rent and the other

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<v Speaker 1>half well, in recent months, she started investing the money

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<v Speaker 1>on something she's very excited about. Well.

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<v Speaker 3>In Bertier and Loquez San Pres.

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<v Speaker 1>Martha has been investing the other five hundred on what

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<v Speaker 1>she calls her small business.

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<v Speaker 2>Coming up on letting the USA, we find out how

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<v Speaker 2>Martha is investing the other half of the cash from

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<v Speaker 2>the Guaranteed Income program, and we learn about the origins

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<v Speaker 2>of universal basic income. Stay with us not themas.

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<v Speaker 9>Get usuena umo jote came through Muchasa mucho amor Inlardino

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<v Speaker 9>Musical and Miss Agri and Milman much at the Ponto.

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<v Speaker 2>Hey, we're back before the break. You met Marta Lopez,

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<v Speaker 2>one of the participants of Big Leap. It's the guarantee

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<v Speaker 2>basic income program the city of Los Angeles, launched in

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<v Speaker 2>twenty twenty two and one of the biggest in the country.

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<v Speaker 2>Participants get one thousand dollars a month for a year

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<v Speaker 2>without any restrictions how to spend the money. Marta has

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<v Speaker 2>been investing half of the money on something very special

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<v Speaker 2>for her. But before we find out what that is,

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<v Speaker 2>we're gonna meet Michaela, another program participant. Here's Latino USA

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<v Speaker 2>Senior producer Marta Martinez once again with the story.

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<v Speaker 1>It's Saturday morning and we're in the car with Mikaela.

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<v Speaker 1>We're not using Mikaela's last name because she's undocumented. The

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<v Speaker 1>Big LEAG program didn't ask about legal status in its

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<v Speaker 1>application because the city wanted to broaden access as much

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<v Speaker 1>as possible. This is also the first time Mikaela has

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<v Speaker 1>ever gotten any aid from the government. We're heading from

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<v Speaker 1>South la where she lives, to a food bank in

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<v Speaker 1>Korea Town. Mikhaela's landlord is driving.

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<v Speaker 8>TIEMP.

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<v Speaker 1>Mikhayela is fifty one years old and she doesn't have

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<v Speaker 1>a car, so she can only go to the food

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<v Speaker 1>bank whenever her landlord can drive her. She says, you

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<v Speaker 1>wouldn't be able to afford a n uber. Mikaela sits

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<v Speaker 1>in the front and most of her face is covered

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<v Speaker 1>by a black face mask, but her eyes are delicately

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<v Speaker 1>made up with a rose colored eyeshadow and a touch

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<v Speaker 1>of glitter. She has a curly mop of blonde hair,

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<v Speaker 1>almost white at the top. Her nails are painted light pink,

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<v Speaker 1>but they look worn down.

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<v Speaker 8>Rat They are rat pour k as the pis fasi.

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<v Speaker 1>Mikhaela says she's very thrifty. In this country, people spend

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<v Speaker 1>money on things they don't need, but she can't afford

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<v Speaker 1>to do that. Mikhayela is a siamstress and a single

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<v Speaker 1>mother of two. The majority of Bigley participants are single

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<v Speaker 1>mothers like her. She came to the US almost thirty

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<v Speaker 1>years ago from Mexico with the father of her two boys,

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<v Speaker 1>but he was physically abusive and they soon separated. Mikaela

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<v Speaker 1>says he has never provided any support for her sons,

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<v Speaker 1>who are now in their twenties.

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<v Speaker 8>Mos Con La Costa for Que Malaga.

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<v Speaker 1>Mikaela relies on her sewing, but it's not a well

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<v Speaker 1>paying job. On a good week, she says she makes

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<v Speaker 1>six hundred dollars, but that means working every day from

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<v Speaker 1>seven am till eleven pm. She rents two rooms in

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<v Speaker 1>her landlord's house, one for her and one for her

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<v Speaker 1>oldest son, who is twenty five years old. She pays

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<v Speaker 1>eight hundred and fifty dollars a month for the rooms,

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<v Speaker 1>and she's been using most of her program money on rent.

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<v Speaker 1>She's also been supporting her youngest son through college in Merced, California.

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<v Speaker 1>He got a scholarship, but it didn't fully cover his tuition,

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<v Speaker 1>so Mikaela sent him about five hundred dollars a month

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<v Speaker 1>to pay for his classes and other things he needed,

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<v Speaker 1>depending on how much she was able to make sewing

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<v Speaker 1>or how much she could borrow from friends and acquaintances.

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<v Speaker 8>Listen dian Naervio's with Hi.

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<v Speaker 1>Mikhaela always worried would she be able to make ends meet,

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<v Speaker 1>and it wasn't just a tuition. He always needed something.

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<v Speaker 8>Then God tample Mansa Kokoopoo pastades Kokopo cal Setenis.

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<v Speaker 1>He texted her saying he needed soap, toothpaste, socks. As

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<v Speaker 1>a single mom, Mikaela has to figure out ways to

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<v Speaker 1>save money all the time, and that's how she found

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<v Speaker 1>out about this food bank. She's been going there for

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<v Speaker 1>ten years now. Nikayla comes every two or three weeks

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<v Speaker 1>to stock up for her and her son, and for

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<v Speaker 1>fifty dollars, she can get as much food as she wants.

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<v Speaker 8>Fat In the end, you say that.

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<v Speaker 5>Mikhaela.

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<v Speaker 1>Mikaela got her twelve and last cash transfer from the

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<v Speaker 1>Big Lee program this month. She was among those who

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<v Speaker 1>were first randomly selected to participate. The City of Los

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<v Speaker 1>Angeles partnered with the University of Pennsylvania to manage the

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<v Speaker 1>selection process, as well as all other research aspects of

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<v Speaker 1>the program. Angelina's were able to apply either online or

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<v Speaker 1>in person during a period of ten days. In the

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<v Speaker 1>fall of twenty twenty one, we.

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<v Speaker 6>Had two hundred and fifty thousand people visit our website

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<v Speaker 6>and in the air little over fifty thousand people applied

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<v Speaker 6>for the program.

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<v Speaker 1>This is Abigail Marquez, the General manager of the Community

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<v Speaker 1>Investment for Families Apartment with the City of Los Angeles.

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<v Speaker 1>Her unit is in charge of implementing the Big leap program.

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<v Speaker 1>Abigail says that the fact that over fifty thousand people

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<v Speaker 1>applied illustrates how big the need is. Some ten thousand

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<v Speaker 1>people who applied actually didn't respond when the program informed

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<v Speaker 1>them that they had been randomly selected.

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<v Speaker 6>People distrust government, and so people felt like, this is

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<v Speaker 6>a catch. How is it that that we're getting one

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<v Speaker 6>thousand dollars.

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<v Speaker 1>It's unheard of.

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<v Speaker 6>It really is unheard of.

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<v Speaker 1>Another five thousand out of fifty thousand didn't fulfill the

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<v Speaker 1>selection criteria, that is being an adult living in the

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<v Speaker 1>city of Los Angeles under the twenty twenty one federal

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<v Speaker 1>poverty line and having at least one child that means

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<v Speaker 1>making less than eighteen thousand dollars a year for a

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<v Speaker 1>family of two. Because of the people who either didn't

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<v Speaker 1>respond or didn't qualify in the first selection round, some

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<v Speaker 1>participants got their first CATSH trend first a little bit

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<v Speaker 1>earlier than others, about a couple of months apart. That's

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<v Speaker 1>why Marta, the woman we met at the beginning of

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<v Speaker 1>the show, still has some deposits left, but Mikaela doesn't.

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<v Speaker 6>The pandemic created an opportunity for us to do something

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<v Speaker 6>different as local government in the way that we were

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<v Speaker 6>responding to the needs and challenges, primarily those from communities

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<v Speaker 6>of color. But I think it's an opportunity to reflect

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<v Speaker 6>on how we could do things differently moving forward.

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<v Speaker 1>In early twenty twenty, Mikhaela was working at a textile

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<v Speaker 1>factory and.

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<v Speaker 10>La Pandemias and dicaol Mundo and Sima servajo mebermas carrillos.

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<v Speaker 1>With a pandemic. The world fell apart for her. She

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<v Speaker 1>got COVID, she lost her job. Then she started sewing

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<v Speaker 1>face masks on her own to get.

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<v Speaker 10>By janoomere no poor mir Pergatia, Bantos, dress, Santiacae, Sali,

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<v Speaker 10>Jello so Caveza.

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<v Speaker 1>She couldn't eat, she couldn't sleep. Her head hurts so

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<v Speaker 1>much she felt her eyes would fall out. She had takikardias.

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<v Speaker 1>Her heart started pounding in the middle of the night,

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<v Speaker 1>and she was falling deeper and deeper into dead. To

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<v Speaker 1>help her youngest son.

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<v Speaker 8>For Doma Trasco Noja.

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<v Speaker 1>He was going to graduate from college soon and she

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<v Speaker 1>felt she couldn't leave him hanging. It was actually her

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<v Speaker 1>youngest son who found out about the Big Clip program.

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<v Speaker 8>See applicat meal Manzueles Punao.

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<v Speaker 1>He helped her fill out the online application because Mikaela

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<v Speaker 1>barely speaks English and she's not great with technology either.

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<v Speaker 1>Six months later, she got a message from the City

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<v Speaker 1>of Los Angeles. She had already forgotten what it was about,

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<v Speaker 1>but she went to the government office anyway, and then

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<v Speaker 1>they gave her a debit card tray.

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<v Speaker 8>So inclusive Chao yallow a ladio is positively di Jossi.

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<v Speaker 1>Mikaela couldn't believe it. At first. She thought she was

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<v Speaker 1>going to have to work in exchange for the cash,

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<v Speaker 1>and she worried about how she would combine that with

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<v Speaker 1>her sewing. When she found out that she didn't need

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<v Speaker 1>to do anything, just use the money as she needed,

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<v Speaker 1>she thought she was going to pass.

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<v Speaker 8>Out semi Yeah, not a lass.

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<v Speaker 10>Like you in this difficult tekastoid omega manalo sayula milan.

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<v Speaker 1>For someone who's poor, Mikhaila says, one thousand dollars a

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<v Speaker 1>month is a lot of money. She closed her eyes

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<v Speaker 1>and said, now I have to give it my own.

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<v Speaker 1>The City of Los Angeles has invested more than thirty

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<v Speaker 1>six million dollars into the Big Lee program. The city

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<v Speaker 1>is tapping money from its general fund, which also finances

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<v Speaker 1>it's public safety and infrastructure, among other services. And all

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<v Speaker 1>of that gets funded through taxes, fines, and other fees

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<v Speaker 1>local government collects. This year, for example, LA's general fund

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<v Speaker 1>has a budget of almost eight billion dollars, and so

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<v Speaker 1>the Bigley program is barely making a dent. At the

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<v Speaker 1>heart of the program is the idea that there are

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<v Speaker 1>no rules or guidance on how to spend the money.

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<v Speaker 1>Here's Abigail Marquez again from the city.

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<v Speaker 6>I fundamentally believe that if we remove barriers from people

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<v Speaker 6>to access programs and we empower them to make decisions

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<v Speaker 6>for themselves, they are in the best position to make

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<v Speaker 6>those decisions. Oftentimes, in my opinion, government is overly prescriptive.

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<v Speaker 6>We have too many requirements, too many rules.

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<v Speaker 1>So far, data the city has collected shows that participants

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<v Speaker 1>are spending the money on covering their basic needs.

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<v Speaker 6>Many are spending the money on helping to cover their

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<v Speaker 6>rent costs. Thirty four percent of our participants are spending

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<v Speaker 6>money on food and groceries. They're not spending money on

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<v Speaker 6>purchasing a new car or anything that's lavish.

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<v Speaker 1>We could say that there's a new wave of guaranteeing

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<v Speaker 1>come program, and probably the one that initiated it and

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<v Speaker 1>got a lot of media attention was the one Michael

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<v Speaker 1>Tobs started when he became the mayor of Stockton, a

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<v Speaker 1>city of over three hundred and twenty thousand people in California,

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<v Speaker 1>a central body.

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<v Speaker 11>I told my staff to look at like, how are

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<v Speaker 11>we going to get rid of poverty? At art meet

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<v Speaker 11>and they came back with this idea of giving people money,

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<v Speaker 11>And honestly, at first I was a little bit nervous.

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<v Speaker 11>It felt very bold and very radical, a little bit

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<v Speaker 11>of a crazy idea.

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<v Speaker 1>The program started in twenty nineteen and it gave one

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<v Speaker 1>hundred and twenty five people five hundred dollars a month

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<v Speaker 1>for two years.

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<v Speaker 12>So Stockton is very important because it was the first

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<v Speaker 12>city led or mayor led pilot in the US.

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<v Speaker 1>This is Juliana bi Dada Nure, a political philosopher and

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<v Speaker 1>the faculty director of the Stanford Basic Income Lab.

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<v Speaker 12>After one year into the program, people reported feeling less stressed,

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<v Speaker 12>there was an uptick in employment, and also people spend

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<v Speaker 12>the money wisely.

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<v Speaker 1>Juliana is from friends and the concept of universal basic

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<v Speaker 1>income or UBI can actually be traced back to the

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<v Speaker 1>French Revolution in the late eighteenth century with William Thomas

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<v Speaker 1>Pain's idea of a dividend.

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<v Speaker 12>Essentially the idea that we are all owed a share

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<v Speaker 12>of what we own in common. Could be natural resources,

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<v Speaker 12>you could frame it as the wealth of the earth,

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<v Speaker 12>but it's also connected with the idea that we are

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<v Speaker 12>all owe a share of the wealth generated by previous

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<v Speaker 12>generations and.

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<v Speaker 1>The wealth that we could create as current generations. A

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<v Speaker 1>similar idea became popular among neo liberals as well, who

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<v Speaker 1>saw basic income as a tool to keep the government

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<v Speaker 1>out of people's lives. Even President Richard Nixon in the

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<v Speaker 1>late nineteen sixties pushed for a reform of the national

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<v Speaker 1>welfare system that actually sounded pretty similar to providing a

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<v Speaker 1>basic income.

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<v Speaker 13>And that is why tonight, I therefore propose that we

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<v Speaker 13>abolish the present welfare system and that we adopted its

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<v Speaker 13>place a new family assistance system.

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<v Speaker 1>Nixon's Family Assistance program aimed to give families of four

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<v Speaker 1>sixteen hundred dollars a year, which today it would amount

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<v Speaker 1>to a little over thirteen thousand dollars, so actually pretty

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<v Speaker 1>similar to the amount of money participants of the Los

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<v Speaker 1>Angeles program got this year. But Senators rejected Nixon's plan twice.

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<v Speaker 1>It was a complex process, but basically Republicans thought the

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<v Speaker 1>program was too expensive and expensive, and Democrats thought it

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<v Speaker 1>wasn't enough money for the families. Around the same time,

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<v Speaker 1>in the nineteen sixties and seventies, universal basic income also

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<v Speaker 1>became a central fight for feminists. They saw UBI as

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<v Speaker 1>a way to pay for all the unpaid care work

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<v Speaker 1>that women were doing at home, and a tool to

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<v Speaker 1>rebalance the power relationships between men and women men.

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<v Speaker 12>There's also a really interesting origin that comes from Martin

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<v Speaker 12>Luther King, the Black Panther Party, and also the National

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<v Speaker 12>Welfare Rights Organization.

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<v Speaker 1>That was an organization for mostly by black matters, and.

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<v Speaker 12>The idea here was really to ensure that no one

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<v Speaker 12>was reduced to live in poverty without access to the

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<v Speaker 12>means of survival that was supposed to be key to

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<v Speaker 12>the notion of economic freedom.

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<v Speaker 1>More recently, UBI has become very popular in Silicon Valley

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<v Speaker 1>among tech millionaires who see this concept almost as a

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<v Speaker 1>magic wand that could quote unquote disrupt the social welfare

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<v Speaker 1>system and fix all social problems, some problems created by

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<v Speaker 1>these millionaires themselves. For example, Jack Dorsey, the founder of

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<v Speaker 1>Twitter donated fifteen million dollars to a mayor's coalition created

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<v Speaker 1>by the Mayor of Stockton.

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<v Speaker 12>Now, the tendency of billionaires to like quick fixes that

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<v Speaker 12>do not really address the root causes of inequalities and

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<v Speaker 12>poverty makes them really sub optimal advocates of basic income,

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<v Speaker 12>because I think the idea of basic income is really

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<v Speaker 12>one of building a very robust safety net. It's not

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<v Speaker 12>one that makes a system that produces so much inequality

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<v Speaker 12>work a little better.

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<v Speaker 1>There are ubi supporters coming from very different political backgrounds,

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<v Speaker 1>but there are also many critics. Probably the most common

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<v Speaker 1>criticism is the belief that if you give people money,

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<v Speaker 1>they will stop working.

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<v Speaker 12>There is considerable evidence that people want to work and

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<v Speaker 12>will work when given the transfer, and throughout the world

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<v Speaker 12>with cashtroms for our programs, what we've seen is that

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<v Speaker 12>people use the cash to retrain, to get a driver's license,

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<v Speaker 12>to pay for childcare, to do what is needed to

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<v Speaker 12>do to remove barriers to employment.

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<v Speaker 1>Another criticism targets the universal aspect of this concept. Why

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<v Speaker 1>give money to people who don't need it?

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<v Speaker 12>Universality is really key to this sigmatized public assistance. We've

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<v Speaker 12>created this system that is so stigmatizing that a lot

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<v Speaker 12>of eligible people end up not claiming benefits, in part

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<v Speaker 12>by fear of being demonized as welfare queens and benefits scrounders.

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<v Speaker 12>So these stereotypes are very damaging.

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<v Speaker 1>A quick note here, the pilot programs that have launched

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<v Speaker 1>in recent years across the US are not fully universal.

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<v Speaker 1>They all target groups in need, like people living in

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<v Speaker 1>poverty or above a certain age. But they're similar to

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<v Speaker 1>UBI in that they provide a stable income and don't

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<v Speaker 1>have any restrictions on how people can use the cash.

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<v Speaker 1>And then, of course there's the criticism that UBI is

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<v Speaker 1>too expensive. It's undeniable that these programs cost a lot

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<v Speaker 1>of money, But Julianna says there are other important social

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<v Speaker 1>costs in.

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<v Speaker 12>The equation poverty object Poverty costs enormously to communities. You

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<v Speaker 12>just have to think about the costs in terms of health,

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<v Speaker 12>in terms of crime, of the clustering of this advantage

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<v Speaker 12>that happens when people start losing an income, losing their homes,

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<v Speaker 12>and then it becomes extremely costly on the long run.

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<v Speaker 12>I mean, of course, the human cast, the moral cost

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<v Speaker 12>is the most important one, but even in monetary terms,

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<v Speaker 12>it's it's a disaster. So once you start building that

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<v Speaker 12>in and once you start thinking about the fact that

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<v Speaker 12>actually giving people cash can even grow the economy, you

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<v Speaker 12>realize that it's not as bad as it looks.

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<v Speaker 3>Royal Hanna's Taipei.

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<v Speaker 1>We're on a busy block on Manchester Avenue in South

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<v Speaker 1>LA with Martha, the woman from Andudas met earlier, and

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<v Speaker 1>her daughter Lizzie.

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<v Speaker 7>I'm pretty sure my light slow and they're like, berg,

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<v Speaker 7>think it not.

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<v Speaker 1>In left leg, Martha shows me this big empty space

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<v Speaker 1>with very tall ceilings and freshly painted white walls. This

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<v Speaker 1>is how Martha has been investing the other half of

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<v Speaker 1>the big leap money. She's about to open her own.

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<v Speaker 3>Store, well La Mayoria de Cosa so on.

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<v Speaker 1>The Martha will sell mostly clothes, but also toys, shoes,

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<v Speaker 1>women's accessories. She buys these carded palettes from big retailers

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<v Speaker 1>like Target or Costco, and then she sells the items

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<v Speaker 1>at an affordable price in her neighborhood.

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<v Speaker 3>And musium.

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<v Speaker 1>Martha is excited about opening the store, but when she

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<v Speaker 1>thinks about having to make rent for the space and

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<v Speaker 1>about starting something new, she gets a little scared too.

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<v Speaker 1>Her husband, Freddy isn't fully on board with Marthas and Davers.

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<v Speaker 1>He thinks it's a huge financial risk. Her daughters aren't

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<v Speaker 1>very supportive either, because they aren't used to her mother

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<v Speaker 1>spending so much time out of the house. But none

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<v Speaker 1>of that stops Marta la. It's a dream Martha has

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<v Speaker 1>had for a long time, but she was too busy

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<v Speaker 1>taking care of her daughters. She feels confident about taking

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<v Speaker 1>this step because she knows how to run a store.

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<v Speaker 1>She's done it before me Mama.

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<v Speaker 3>Tormented the pas of Pecanos.

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<v Speaker 1>Back in Onduras, Marta studied marketing in college. In the

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<v Speaker 1>small city of Choloma in the northwest of the country,

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<v Speaker 1>her mother opened a mini market. The family business started small,

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<v Speaker 1>selling groceries, and Martha helped her mother manage the store.

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<v Speaker 1>She loved it and she was good at it. The

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<v Speaker 1>business grew and the family soon owned three stores.

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<v Speaker 4>Sstaalas Jimmy Mama's Diversifico muchosun Negosha followed Exito Total.

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<v Speaker 1>When criminal gangs killed her two brothers, Marta and her

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<v Speaker 1>mother decided to close the businesses. And when Marta left Ondudas,

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<v Speaker 1>her dream of following in her mother's steps became more

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<v Speaker 1>and more distant. When the pandemic hit and Freddi lost

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<v Speaker 1>his job and then injured his hand. The family was

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<v Speaker 1>left without a stable source of income for many months.

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<v Speaker 1>They barely survived on the three to four hundred dollars

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<v Speaker 1>Freddy was able to make every week with spontaneous gigs.

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<v Speaker 1>Marta was trying to find ways to help keep the

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<v Speaker 1>family afloat. She applied for the weekly program, but she

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<v Speaker 1>also got creative at home.

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<v Speaker 3>Al Principean Kosalski Missi hasi wan the hand of Kenaiann

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<v Speaker 3>Proveecho Mahenka.

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<v Speaker 1>At first, she was giving away toll is her daughters

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<v Speaker 1>didn't use anymore, using platforms like Facebook. Then people started

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<v Speaker 1>offering her money for them and and that experience revived

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<v Speaker 1>her dream. So when she got selected for the Big

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<v Speaker 1>Ley program, she knew she had to invest the money wisely.

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<v Speaker 3>Jeans closes.

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<v Speaker 1>She could have spent the money on shoes or clothes

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<v Speaker 1>for herself and her daughters, but that would have been it. Instead,

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<v Speaker 1>Marta decided to buy merchandise and then sell it to

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<v Speaker 1>generate a profit. Martha is unfolding clothes and hanging them

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<v Speaker 1>on a circular hangar, being busy makes Marta feel good.

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<v Speaker 1>It's like therapy, she says. Well, she organizes sneakers and

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<v Speaker 1>Ellie caps on a long white plastic table. Martha gets

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<v Speaker 1>a video calls it's Martha's mother calling from Honduras. Her

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<v Speaker 1>name is Martha as well. Moving the phone around, MARTA's

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<v Speaker 1>her mother the new.

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<v Speaker 3>Space, Mama r.

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<v Speaker 1>Martha's mother recommends her not to drill any holes on

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<v Speaker 1>the walls because she might not get her deposit back today.

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<v Speaker 1>She has to leave the space. Martha actually borrowed money

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<v Speaker 1>from her mother and some other family members in Hondudas

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<v Speaker 1>to open the store.

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<v Speaker 3>Grandmos.

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<v Speaker 1>Martha's mother tells her she has a gift that God

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<v Speaker 1>gave her. And look at you're a business woman, her

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<v Speaker 1>mother tells her, as she is, Mamma the.

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<v Speaker 3>Way I am.

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<v Speaker 1>Martha tells her mother she's gonna call her later because

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<v Speaker 1>she needs to call a client who wants to buy

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<v Speaker 1>some gifts. They talk every day, often more than once.

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<v Speaker 3>By a mom.

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<v Speaker 1>I asked Marta if she already has a name in

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<v Speaker 1>mind for her store.

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<v Speaker 4>The one outlet, the one and honor as a your

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<v Speaker 4>daddy was Sonya Looras.

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<v Speaker 1>Martha says she would love to name the store dubone outlet.

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<v Speaker 1>The one is her mother's last name, and she wants

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<v Speaker 1>to honor her, a strong, bold woman who worked a

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<v Speaker 1>lot and was also a dreamer, just like Martha.

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<v Speaker 2>Coming up on Latino USA. We go to Martha's grand

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<v Speaker 2>opening and we asked, what's the future of guaranteed income

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<v Speaker 2>programs in the United States?

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<v Speaker 1>Stay with us, not the ys.

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<v Speaker 5>Hi, Latino USA. My name is Magali garciaflex. I grew

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<v Speaker 5>up along the US Mestical border in Laredo, Texas. The

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<v Speaker 5>first time I started listening to Latino USA was in

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<v Speaker 5>the fall of twenty fourteen. I had just started a

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<v Speaker 5>new job at Providence College, and I turned to Latino

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<v Speaker 5>USA as both material for class, but also as a

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<v Speaker 5>way to feel closer to home. The familiar voices, especially

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<v Speaker 5>the trans languaging between English and Spanish, and the topics

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<v Speaker 5>that really resonated with me are what made me feel

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<v Speaker 5>like I know, USA was so right.

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<v Speaker 3>And so special for me.

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<v Speaker 5>Seal complex, here's too many more.

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<v Speaker 1>Hey, we're back.

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<v Speaker 2>Before the break, we saw how Marta and Michaela, two

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<v Speaker 2>participants of Los Angeles's Guaranteed Income program, are spending the

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<v Speaker 2>one thousand dollars they're getting every month for one year.

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<v Speaker 2>You know, USA senior producer Marta Martinez is going to

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<v Speaker 2>pick up the story from here, Ola.

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<v Speaker 1>Today is the grand opening of Martha's store. I can't

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<v Speaker 1>even recognize the space. It's now so full of clothes, toys,

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<v Speaker 1>home supplies. By the window, there's a display for Saint

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<v Speaker 1>Valentine's Day, full of hearts and stuffed animals. I noticed

0:43:49.800 --> 0:43:52.720
<v Speaker 1>that Marta didn't follow her mother's advice, and she drilled

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<v Speaker 1>two giant racks on the left wall. They're packed with

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<v Speaker 1>T shirts, sweaters, jeans. She's going all in. Hello, ladies,

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<v Speaker 1>how are you today. MARTA's daughters, Lizzie and Sophia are

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<v Speaker 1>also here, and they're dressed for the occasion. They each

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<v Speaker 1>wear a big bowl on their hair. Lizzie is covered

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<v Speaker 1>in rainbows, a big rainbow on her chest and a

0:44:20.120 --> 0:44:23.480
<v Speaker 1>rainbow pattern skirt. Sophia has a T shirt with a

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<v Speaker 1>unicorn on the front and on the back.

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<v Speaker 7>Well, yes, Corney, fairly, Fia, oh, Sophia.

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<v Speaker 1>Marta greets everyone who enters the store and answers their

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<v Speaker 1>questions single promise. In the back of the store, there's

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<v Speaker 1>a small table where they're serving natches the fruit. The

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<v Speaker 1>same long plastic table from the first day I visited

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<v Speaker 1>the store is now covered in all kinds of chips

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<v Speaker 1>and sodas for everyone to pick up for free. Sophie

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<v Speaker 1>asks me if I want anything.

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<v Speaker 7>Oh, by the way, we have chips, drinks, whatever, And.

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<v Speaker 1>Then she tells me about what a particular soda is

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<v Speaker 1>made of.

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<v Speaker 7>And it's made of sugar coop And that's.

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<v Speaker 1>More than a store opening. It feels like a neighborhood

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<v Speaker 1>birthday party. And then Martha's next door neighbors sho Gloria

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<v Speaker 1>and Marcus neighbors.

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<v Speaker 7>Welcome.

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<v Speaker 1>They're both tall and thin and here waiting for you.

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<v Speaker 1>Marcus walks slowly and is always joking.

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<v Speaker 9>Nurse is nice.

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<v Speaker 1>Marcus sits and it's some natchos well. His wife Gloria

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<v Speaker 1>browses around. He sits next to two solvador and women

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<v Speaker 1>who don't speak English, but he seems to be enjoying himself.

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<v Speaker 7>Go back in her pressure room.

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<v Speaker 1>Gloria ends up buying a couple of long sleeve shirts

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<v Speaker 1>and a pair of pants. It took a while for

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<v Speaker 1>Martha to have a relationship with Marcus and Gloria. Language

0:46:11.480 --> 0:46:20.480
<v Speaker 1>was a barrier but over time they've become closer. The

0:46:20.560 --> 0:46:23.600
<v Speaker 1>couple sits down its cake and chats with the group

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<v Speaker 1>for a while. It's getting late. While Marcus and Gloria leave,

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<v Speaker 1>Martha gets a call from her mother. Martha moves the

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<v Speaker 1>phone around and shows her mother how full the story is.

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<v Speaker 1>Now the celebration is complete. The City of Los Angeles

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<v Speaker 1>doesn't have hard data yet on the impact of the

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<v Speaker 1>Big Leap program. It'll still take months to analyze what

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<v Speaker 1>happened during the year when partic sipens cutter cash transfers,

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<v Speaker 1>and what happened during the six months after that. But

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<v Speaker 1>Abigail Marquez from La City Government is quite impressed so far,

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<v Speaker 1>even after twenty years working in public administration.

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<v Speaker 6>It's all anecdotal at this point, but we have learned

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<v Speaker 6>that through this program, people are feeling less stress and

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<v Speaker 6>less anxiety. That's allowing households to plan for the future,

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<v Speaker 6>which oftentimes many people take for granted.

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<v Speaker 1>Reports from over twenty other pilot programs across the country

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<v Speaker 1>have shown similar positive results reduced stress levels, improved physical health,

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<v Speaker 1>higher full time employment rates, including the final results from

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<v Speaker 1>the Stockton program, which came out recently. Abigail says Stockton,

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<v Speaker 1>sparked the national movement.

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<v Speaker 6>We have cities for guaranteed income, we have counties for

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<v Speaker 6>guaranteed income, and we're talking about this at the federal level,

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<v Speaker 6>you know, with the President and many of our congressional

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<v Speaker 6>representatives as well.

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<v Speaker 1>The state of California is funding several guaranteed income programs

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<v Speaker 1>for mothers and children, and in the state of New York,

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<v Speaker 1>people are pushing for a similar initiative. In twenty twenty one,

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<v Speaker 1>the Biden administration expanded the Child Independent Tax Credit that

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<v Speaker 1>gave families up to three hundred dollars a month per child.

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<v Speaker 1>They didn't call it guaranteed income, but it was pretty

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<v Speaker 1>similar and it helped cut child poverty in half. For

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<v Speaker 1>many experts, it's clear that guaranteed income programs work. The

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<v Speaker 1>question is how they can strengthen the social welfare system,

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<v Speaker 1>not dismantle it. I shared it with Abigail one of

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<v Speaker 1>the questions that keeps resonating in my head since I

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<v Speaker 1>started reporting on the Big Lead program on what this

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<v Speaker 1>year has been like for Marta and Mikaela and another

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<v Speaker 1>thirty two hundred people.

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<v Speaker 14>They've definitely gotten this economic stability for a year, but

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<v Speaker 14>now are going to stop receiving that, Like, what's going

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<v Speaker 14>to happen to these people?

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<v Speaker 6>So that's you know, that is the unfortunate aspect of

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<v Speaker 6>this work is that we won't really know people are working,

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<v Speaker 6>but the economy is not working for our lowest wage earners.

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<v Speaker 1>I also asked Juliana Bida Lanure from Stanford's Basic Income Lab.

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<v Speaker 8>Yeah, that's such an important question. I worry about this too,

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<v Speaker 8>you know.

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<v Speaker 12>I think people have been incredible by enlarged using the

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<v Speaker 12>cash in ways that put them in a better.

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<v Speaker 8>Position after the program ends.

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<v Speaker 12>But it's still a very big concern because the idea

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<v Speaker 12>of the of the program is not like we give

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<v Speaker 12>you cash for a little while and then you're on

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<v Speaker 12>your own.

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<v Speaker 1>It's actually the opposite of that.

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<v Speaker 12>The idea is we create this robust flaw that will

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<v Speaker 12>ensure that this is guaranteed and you know that you

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<v Speaker 12>will always be able to rely on this. And the

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<v Speaker 12>question is also like what kinds of choices you make

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<v Speaker 12>when that's secured.

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<v Speaker 1>Juliana believes that beyond the hard data that these pilot

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<v Speaker 1>programs will gather on their positive impact, there are bigger

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<v Speaker 1>moral and political questions to consider when thinking about the

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<v Speaker 1>future of UBI.

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<v Speaker 12>It's really about what we owe each other. In wealthy Nasian,

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<v Speaker 12>we have accumulated unprecedented wealth off the backs of workers

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<v Speaker 12>past and present, and so I think it's really time

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<v Speaker 12>to redistribute this wealth more fairly.

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<v Speaker 1>And she wishes that the pandemic helps us think differently

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<v Speaker 1>about emergencies.

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<v Speaker 12>Now we think about cashas like effective, but we continue

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<v Speaker 12>to think about cash as only for emergency situations, but

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<v Speaker 12>not realizing that abject poverty, economic insecurity ah emergencies and

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<v Speaker 12>that we need to fix it now.

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<v Speaker 1>I meet Mikhaela at the red brick home in South

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<v Speaker 1>where she rents two rooms. We walked to the backyard

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<v Speaker 1>where there's a shed she has converted into her sewing workshop.

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<v Speaker 10>The man.

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<v Speaker 1>It's been hard to meet with Mikhaela because she's always working.

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<v Speaker 1>Last night she finished her latest assignment. She sold five

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<v Speaker 1>hundred blouses for two dollars.

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<v Speaker 10>Each Plando in Tregando.

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<v Speaker 1>She was folding clothes until eleven pm the night before.

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<v Speaker 1>She won't be receiving any more cash transfers from Big Leap,

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<v Speaker 1>so she feels she can't say no to any new assignments.

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<v Speaker 1>Mikaela shows me around the tiny well organized.

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<v Speaker 10>Shed connom presta Makina is the makina is tramakina.

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<v Speaker 1>After Mikhayela paid off her son's college debt, she bought

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<v Speaker 1>four second hands sewing machinets. They added up to about

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<v Speaker 1>five thousand dollars and she's still paying for them.

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<v Speaker 10>Reno borgestava, pagandoodiz sala rerenta and ton says yo no

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<v Speaker 10>al cansa and no salad in nero.

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<v Speaker 1>She used to pay one hundred and ten dollars a

0:52:11.040 --> 0:52:14.239
<v Speaker 1>month to rent the machines, but now all she makes

0:52:14.320 --> 0:52:17.279
<v Speaker 1>with her work she keeps, even if it isn't much.

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<v Speaker 1>Mikhaela says that without the help of Big Lip, she

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<v Speaker 1>would never have been able to purchase the sewing machines.

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<v Speaker 1>That's because you always left hand to mouth.

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<v Speaker 10>Doosolo parami san sali loyo yora was.

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<v Speaker 8>Mia yudai.

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<v Speaker 1>This whole year of receiving a stable income was a

0:52:44.880 --> 0:52:48.480
<v Speaker 1>big relief for Mikhaela. She felt she was getting out

0:52:48.480 --> 0:52:51.240
<v Speaker 1>of the hole, that she was finally able to breathe.

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<v Speaker 1>But now that the program is over, she still has

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<v Speaker 1>other problems to worry about.

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<v Speaker 10>Miss Manos komote Otterna.

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<v Speaker 1>Mikaela shows me her hands. She wears two black wrisbands

0:53:05.600 --> 0:53:09.239
<v Speaker 1>after developing carpal tunnel on both hands from so many

0:53:09.360 --> 0:53:13.480
<v Speaker 1>years of sewing and iron clothes. The doctor says she'll

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<v Speaker 1>probably need surgery, but she doesn't have the money to

0:53:16.719 --> 0:53:19.200
<v Speaker 1>pay for the procedure and she can't afford going on

0:53:19.320 --> 0:53:20.320
<v Speaker 1>signif either.

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<v Speaker 8>Independent was.

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<v Speaker 1>Medicina, Mikaela shows me a giant orange bottle full of pills. Chelsea,

0:53:33.600 --> 0:53:37.600
<v Speaker 1>and she's taking a hundred milligram ibuprofen pills to keep going.

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<v Speaker 1>A couple of nights ago, at one in the morning,

0:53:42.760 --> 0:53:45.360
<v Speaker 1>she was in bed and the taki cardia came.

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<v Speaker 8>Back my pega barossolo sinkos wundos verte meat.

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<v Speaker 1>Her heart started racing so hard she could even see

0:54:02.719 --> 0:54:06.040
<v Speaker 1>her nightgown going up and down. She thought her heart

0:54:06.200 --> 0:54:10.280
<v Speaker 1>was going to jump out of her chests.

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<v Speaker 8>Yes and dia perro ci fut.

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<v Speaker 1>It went on for twenty minutes. She thought she was

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<v Speaker 1>going to faint, and she ended up calling an ambulance.

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<v Speaker 10>Talvesi yo talves me pantstres prone.

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<v Speaker 1>Mikhaela wonders if all of this is because of the

0:54:38.160 --> 0:54:42.880
<v Speaker 1>Bigley program ending, but she tells herself that she has

0:54:42.960 --> 0:54:46.800
<v Speaker 1>to move forward and work harder. She does have a dream,

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<v Speaker 1>like Marta. Mikaela wants to open her own small business,

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<v Speaker 1>a sewing workshop. She wants to hire about five people

0:54:56.000 --> 0:54:56.600
<v Speaker 1>to help her.

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<v Speaker 10>Permitted questa adasatamente novi aldiya viorna in Berti and ali

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<v Speaker 10>mi propio peke presita.

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<v Speaker 1>With the Big Lip Program, Mikhaela got one step closer

0:55:17.080 --> 0:55:20.399
<v Speaker 1>to her goal of creating her own business, but she's

0:55:20.440 --> 0:55:30.480
<v Speaker 1>still pretty far away from achieving it. I catch up

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<v Speaker 1>with Marta at her store three days before her next

0:55:33.239 --> 0:55:36.680
<v Speaker 1>Big Lip cash transfer, her second to last. There are

0:55:36.760 --> 0:55:39.759
<v Speaker 1>even more goods now, a small fridge with sodas near

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<v Speaker 1>the entrance, columns of toilet paper piling up in the

0:55:43.160 --> 0:55:43.800
<v Speaker 1>back room.

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<v Speaker 4>The loya vendid contradovoice this fetch i dig grandia.

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<v Speaker 1>There hasn't been a single day when Marta left the

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<v Speaker 1>store without selling anything. Today it's three pm and she's

0:56:01.520 --> 0:56:04.960
<v Speaker 1>already made one hundred and fifty dollars. Marta worried a

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<v Speaker 1>lot about being able to cover rent for the space

0:56:07.719 --> 0:56:10.919
<v Speaker 1>with the store cells because it's twelve hundred dollars a month.

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<v Speaker 1>It's the best person.

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<v Speaker 8>See see.

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<v Speaker 4>See I thank you maday, so he puts, yeah, this

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<v Speaker 4>is excellenteo ya competra marcari yoo mas.

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<v Speaker 1>Martha says she's already made double the rent for this

0:56:31.960 --> 0:56:35.239
<v Speaker 1>month and all the extra money she has invested it

0:56:35.360 --> 0:56:39.240
<v Speaker 1>in new merchandise. Martha only has two more cash deposits

0:56:39.320 --> 0:56:42.279
<v Speaker 1>left from Big Deep, but she says she's not sad

0:56:42.360 --> 0:56:45.600
<v Speaker 1>that the program is ending. Having a steady cash support

0:56:45.880 --> 0:56:48.680
<v Speaker 1>allowed her to do things she always dreamed of, but

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<v Speaker 1>she would have never been able to achieve on her own.

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<v Speaker 3>So on those dollar nomelo u ningun son and now

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<v Speaker 3>that sun Cantida buena de avechalgo Provicio's.

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<v Speaker 1>See that's as at brend she would have never in

0:57:14.520 --> 0:57:18.520
<v Speaker 1>her life had access to twelve thousand dollars otherwise, and

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<v Speaker 1>Marta thinks she's used the money well. When she was

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<v Speaker 1>leaving day to day, she wasn't able to think beyond

0:57:28.280 --> 0:57:30.760
<v Speaker 1>how to get to the end of the month, and

0:57:31.120 --> 0:57:36.120
<v Speaker 1>like Mikaela, that made her physically sick. Once they were

0:57:36.200 --> 0:57:39.040
<v Speaker 1>able to get out of survival mode and keep their

0:57:39.120 --> 0:57:42.919
<v Speaker 1>head above water, that's when they started thinking long term

0:57:43.280 --> 0:57:47.280
<v Speaker 1>and making smart decisions about money. Both Marta and Mikhaela

0:57:47.480 --> 0:57:51.280
<v Speaker 1>had dreams to open their own businesses, businesses that would

0:57:51.320 --> 0:57:54.560
<v Speaker 1>employ other people and contribute to the economic prosperity of

0:57:54.600 --> 0:57:59.000
<v Speaker 1>their communities. But now that they'll stop receiving cash, it's

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<v Speaker 1>not clear what they'll be able to keep up with

0:58:01.800 --> 0:58:09.680
<v Speaker 1>the steady growth They've both decided to keep trying. Martha

0:58:09.760 --> 0:58:13.439
<v Speaker 1>gets to work for herself now, not for others, making

0:58:13.480 --> 0:58:16.200
<v Speaker 1>her own schedule and adapting to her daughters too, and.

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<v Speaker 7>We don't think connecting for snack time.

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<v Speaker 1>Her husband, Freddie, picked up the girls from school early

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<v Speaker 1>today because Sophia isn't feeling well. No, it looks like

0:58:29.080 --> 0:58:32.040
<v Speaker 1>the virus that first made Lizzie sick has been passing

0:58:32.160 --> 0:58:36.560
<v Speaker 1>from one family member to another. The girls and Freddie

0:58:36.960 --> 0:58:39.440
<v Speaker 1>still aren't fully on board with this new life of

0:58:39.520 --> 0:58:40.880
<v Speaker 1>Martha as an entrepreneur.

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<v Speaker 13>Why you don't like here?

0:58:47.120 --> 0:58:50.480
<v Speaker 7>And there's no TV so I can't do anything.

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<v Speaker 1>After school, the girls spend some time at the store

0:58:54.480 --> 0:58:57.320
<v Speaker 1>with Martha, and then they all go home for dinner.

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<v Speaker 1>Martha has no plans to go back to the life

0:59:00.240 --> 0:59:01.000
<v Speaker 1>she had before the.

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<v Speaker 7>Program, unless my belly will get my dad's.

0:59:04.960 --> 0:59:09.040
<v Speaker 1>Sophia looks very pale and her stomach aches. She's far

0:59:09.120 --> 0:59:12.720
<v Speaker 1>from her usual bubbly self, but she'll still make the

0:59:12.800 --> 0:59:16.200
<v Speaker 1>most unexpected comments, like when she's talking about her dad.

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<v Speaker 7>Him and Spanish. I call him Babby in the English,

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<v Speaker 7>as you know, but I've called him sometimes sometimes I

0:59:29.280 --> 0:59:29.880
<v Speaker 7>call him that.

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<v Speaker 1>It's almost five pm. Marta decides that today she's gonna

0:59:34.920 --> 0:59:38.240
<v Speaker 1>close the store early and she's gonna go home and

0:59:38.360 --> 0:59:46.480
<v Speaker 1>take care of her daughters. Yeah, because now she is

0:59:46.600 --> 0:59:47.000
<v Speaker 1>the boss.

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<v Speaker 7>However, s we go about?

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<v Speaker 3>Have you seen?

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