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Speaker 1: Star in for School, Dallas Cowboys Select Ezikie Elliott and

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Speaker 1: now your hosts Dane Brugler, David Hellman and Brian brought

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Speaker 1: and then onto Pro Days and then into the NFL Draft.

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Speaker 1: As the Big Boys guy said, Brian brought us here.

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Speaker 1: Dane Brugler, David Hellman and KK Garrison, Executive Producing. How

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Speaker 1: is everybody doing, David, welcome back, by the way, Thank you,

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Speaker 1: Thanks sorry I missed on Monday. Thanks for Marty Gras.

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Speaker 1: It was. It was a delight. Yeah, what I remember

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Speaker 1: of it at least, And I know you stopped in

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Speaker 1: some of those else if you looked at you, we

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Speaker 1: we joked, me and my buddy that went joked that

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Speaker 1: get home, let's just get home, Just get home. Well,

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Speaker 1: I'll tell you what I'm gonna We've got to break.

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Speaker 1: The show's got to break a little early today at

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Speaker 1: eleven fifty five. So I do want to get into

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Speaker 1: our first subject, and I want to throw it over

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Speaker 1: to David Hellman because I think this is gonna be

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Speaker 1: I think this is a great idea. I do. I

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Speaker 1: really like this idea. Dane Brugler came in with it,

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Speaker 1: and and David has taken it, and I think it's

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Speaker 1: gonna be a very entertaining for everybody involved. So let's

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Speaker 1: immediately get involved. I love it entertaining and informative because honestly,

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Speaker 1: I feel like a lot of this these are the

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Speaker 1: listen to this show wants. Yeah, so all right, we're

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Speaker 1: gonna call it make me feel better. What I did

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Speaker 1: was I wouldn't feel better. I went through every position.

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Speaker 1: I didn't do quarterback. Sorry, get over it. I don't.

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Speaker 1: I don't think the Cowboys need to draft one as

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Speaker 1: badly as a few of you do. I went through

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Speaker 1: the rest of the positions that we talk about on

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Speaker 1: this show, and I thought about what concerns me about them,

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Speaker 1: and I want YouTube geniuses to make me feel better.

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Speaker 1: So I'm just you know, I'm not starting with need.

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Speaker 1: I'm just going I'm starting offense, going through defense. We're

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Speaker 1: gonna start with running back. I don't want to spend

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Speaker 1: a top one hundred pick on a running back, but

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Speaker 1: I need Zeke Elliott insurance at some point in the

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Speaker 1: later rounds make me feel better about those possibilities. And

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Speaker 1: this is a draft that's deep at running back. It

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Speaker 1: is a deep draft running back good, you know it.

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Speaker 1: I think it's just for a team like the Cowboys

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Speaker 1: that don't need a bell cow They can kind of

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Speaker 1: play it by ear in the fourth, the fifth, the sixth,

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Speaker 1: other positions. It wouldn't be a surprise if they went

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Speaker 1: they could do depending on how the board plays out. Uh.

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Speaker 1: That guy we talked about, Darryl Williams from LSU, Yes,

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Speaker 1: I make a lot of sense that is gonna be

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Speaker 1: a better pro than he was in College. Uh. You

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Speaker 1: know guy we've talked about before, who if not for

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Speaker 1: him as one of the better running backs in this group.

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Speaker 1: What about keeping him with the sec John Kelly from Tennis,

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Speaker 1: That's what I was hoping. You're gonna go there. Love

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Speaker 1: you what you're on your game already this morning. John

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Speaker 1: He is tough, physical runner, and he catches the football well.

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Speaker 1: He could go earlier, but I thought outside the top

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Speaker 1: guy that separates? Right? No, that's not going to be

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Speaker 1: I feel like I need a route runner. I need

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Speaker 1: somebody that's gonna I need somebody that's gonna help my quarterback. Right,

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Speaker 1: That's what I'm looking for. And those type of guys

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Speaker 1: But you know you can still use those types of

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Speaker 1: a player like a Cobbs to say, Noah Brown, who's

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Speaker 1: already in the roster. Right See, I'm I'm less concerned

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Speaker 1: about size. Like, give me a guy who like knows

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Speaker 1: the whole route tree. Yeah that right away? Okay size

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Speaker 1: God or no different? But at least he lined up

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Speaker 1: Make me feel better? Okay, let's continue on with make

439
00:21:32,160 --> 00:21:35,720
Speaker 1: me feel better offensive guard. There might not be two

440
00:21:35,800 --> 00:21:38,720
Speaker 1: names we've beaten into the ground more than Isaiah Wynn

441
00:21:39,359 --> 00:21:44,240
Speaker 1: and Will Hernandez. Yeah, assuming the Cowboys don't draft one

442
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Speaker 1: of those two guards, make me feel better and find

443
00:21:48,359 --> 00:21:51,080
Speaker 1: me some viable guys that you could get later on

444
00:21:51,280 --> 00:21:54,199
Speaker 1: as early as the second but as late as the

445
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Speaker 1: third or the fourth round. I think this is a

446
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Speaker 1: position where I'm gonna struggle to make you feel better?

447
00:21:58,520 --> 00:22:02,040
Speaker 1: Oh boy, yeah, brought us might help me out here.

448
00:22:02,119 --> 00:22:03,800
Speaker 1: I mean, how can we make him feel better about

449
00:22:03,840 --> 00:22:06,520
Speaker 1: the guard position? If you don't get win, you don't

450
00:22:06,520 --> 00:22:09,919
Speaker 1: get her. Nandez, you like Smith? So I do like

451
00:22:09,960 --> 00:22:12,359
Speaker 1: Braydon Smith from Auburn. Yeah, I do like him. And

452
00:22:12,640 --> 00:22:14,960
Speaker 1: you know what, scouts will probably. I know I went

453
00:22:15,000 --> 00:22:18,240
Speaker 1: on a rail mission against him last week. That's fine.

454
00:22:18,280 --> 00:22:19,960
Speaker 1: I mean, I just wanted to take the other You

455
00:22:19,960 --> 00:22:22,280
Speaker 1: wouldn't take him in a third. I don't think I

456
00:22:22,320 --> 00:22:24,960
Speaker 1: would take him in the third because I have I

457
00:22:25,000 --> 00:22:29,080
Speaker 1: have Corbett from Nevada better than him. Yeah. It's solid player,

458
00:22:29,280 --> 00:22:31,720
Speaker 1: so you know. And the fact he played tackle, he

459
00:22:31,920 --> 00:22:34,959
Speaker 1: you know, playing the potentially play guard for you. I

460
00:22:35,000 --> 00:22:36,639
Speaker 1: think that, you know what, and then it might be

461
00:22:36,680 --> 00:22:40,240
Speaker 1: a wild thing. But I don't think that priced the

462
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Speaker 1: Ohio State Center. He could play guard. But I don't

463
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Speaker 1: think you're gonna get him in them. I think you'd

464
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Speaker 1: have to hit him at fifty if you're gonna. I

465
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Speaker 1: think he's been long gone before them. Just my opinion,

466
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Speaker 1: guys that I think the center. All right? How about this,

467
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Speaker 1: how do you feel about Daniels from Iowa? Then you

468
00:22:57,480 --> 00:22:58,959
Speaker 1: feel like he could play guard, and I can take

469
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Speaker 1: him in nineteen if you want him. I think both

470
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Speaker 1: Price and Daniels are early guys, top thirty to thirty five. Yikes. Yeah,

471
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Speaker 1: well okay, then you know, now you talk about could

472
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Speaker 1: you play Cole? Would you play Cold? Michigan center? Tackle

473
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Speaker 1: it guard? I you know I struggle with Cold because

474
00:23:14,080 --> 00:23:17,800
Speaker 1: I do too. Who's a left tackle at Michigan? You know,

475
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Speaker 1: obviously he's an inside player at the Senior Bowl, he

476
00:23:21,200 --> 00:23:24,359
Speaker 1: just got got Yeah. I like the Senior Bowl. It's

477
00:23:24,400 --> 00:23:26,760
Speaker 1: hard to most guys help themselves, but every year there's

478
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Speaker 1: one or two that you kind of walk away saying, wow,

479
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Speaker 1: I very discouraged by what he did. And Cole is

480
00:23:32,280 --> 00:23:35,840
Speaker 1: one of them right now Arkansas. Yeah, I like him.

481
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Speaker 1: He's kind of another one is going under the radar

482
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Speaker 1: because he missed the last dale months of the season

483
00:23:40,720 --> 00:23:43,119
Speaker 1: with an injury. Yeah, didn't have a chance of the

484
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Speaker 1: workout or play at the Senior Bowl because of the injury.

485
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Speaker 1: If the medicals are clean, He's an interesting guy because

486
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Speaker 1: I think he would be one of the few that

487
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Speaker 1: you consider taking the second or third round. A guy

488
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Speaker 1: that can play guard, play mostly center, but can play

489
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Speaker 1: guard and be just as effective. That's a good name.

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Speaker 1: You wouldn't be happy with Nick Gates from Nebraska, No,

491
00:24:03,880 --> 00:24:06,679
Speaker 1: not at all. No, he was an open gate at

492
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Speaker 1: the left tackle. Whoah, So I know he's probably were

493
00:24:12,040 --> 00:24:15,760
Speaker 1: projecting inside. Uh and the smaller area will help him. No,

494
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Speaker 1: I I think I think you give a fair assessment

495
00:24:18,520 --> 00:24:21,400
Speaker 1: to him. I don't think it's fair. Yeah, this guard classes,

496
00:24:21,640 --> 00:24:24,840
Speaker 1: it's hard to get you know, too too excited about

497
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Speaker 1: the options if and I know I'm kind of making

498
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Speaker 1: a case for why you should go win or you know,

499
00:24:29,840 --> 00:24:32,080
Speaker 1: all of these guys at nineteen, but there's not a

500
00:24:32,160 --> 00:24:33,880
Speaker 1: lot of depth in this guard class. See this, think

501
00:24:33,920 --> 00:24:36,119
Speaker 1: the well, go ahead? This is this is This is

502
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Speaker 1: the argument then that they had last year with drafting

503
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Speaker 1: Taco and do you look at it early? Do you

504
00:24:43,200 --> 00:24:45,600
Speaker 1: have to because you look at the depth of the position,

505
00:24:46,080 --> 00:24:48,480
Speaker 1: and do you feel and and Dane gave you a

506
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Speaker 1: bunch of names. You know, we we we went through

507
00:24:51,000 --> 00:24:53,479
Speaker 1: a bunch of guys that would have to be guys

508
00:24:53,520 --> 00:24:55,600
Speaker 1: that you know, they play at one position, you'd have

509
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Speaker 1: to probably flip them over to play guard where you

510
00:24:58,720 --> 00:25:01,199
Speaker 1: know when yeah, he was a tackle, but man, he

511
00:25:01,280 --> 00:25:03,440
Speaker 1: was really good. You watched and played similarly. We started

512
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Speaker 1: at guard his first few years too, so he's yeah,

513
00:25:05,400 --> 00:25:07,399
Speaker 1: you've seen him, seen him, you've seen him play it.

514
00:25:07,760 --> 00:25:09,239
Speaker 1: And then you look at you know, you look at

515
00:25:09,359 --> 00:25:12,840
Speaker 1: like you know with Hernande is the same way. You

516
00:25:12,880 --> 00:25:16,200
Speaker 1: know now you're thinking, okay, after those two, who are

517
00:25:16,200 --> 00:25:17,919
Speaker 1: the guys? I mean, we were trying to make you

518
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Speaker 1: feel better, and we really didn't. But maybe it's at

519
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Speaker 1: nineteen you have to do that. I know you don't

520
00:25:23,480 --> 00:25:26,439
Speaker 1: want to do that right, but it might be the

521
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Speaker 1: best player at that position, or the best player on

522
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Speaker 1: your board is a guard. I'm gonna go and if

523
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Speaker 1: that's if that's true then because I'll tell you this way,

524
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Speaker 1: I feel better now watching a bunch of one techniques.

525
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Speaker 1: If if I and I know you're gonna get to it,

526
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Speaker 1: we got we're going, okay, I'll let you get to

527
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Speaker 1: that then. But I mean, and I know this is

528
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Speaker 1: the draft show, but what y'all just did was tell

529
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Speaker 1: me that this team needs to get hold of a guy,

530
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Speaker 1: a guy that can start at left guard in free

531
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Speaker 1: agency one way or the other. That would be my

532
00:25:53,800 --> 00:25:57,239
Speaker 1: plan A. Whether it's Jonathan Cooper or somebody else, I

533
00:25:57,240 --> 00:26:01,239
Speaker 1: don't care but you can't go into this knowing that

534
00:26:01,280 --> 00:26:03,240
Speaker 1: you have to draft the starting left guard. Yeah, you

535
00:26:03,280 --> 00:26:06,879
Speaker 1: just can't. And thirty one other teams knowing that too. Yeah, Um,

536
00:26:07,000 --> 00:26:09,280
Speaker 1: offensive tackle. I don't want to spend a ton of

537
00:26:09,280 --> 00:26:12,240
Speaker 1: time on this, but you know, Tyron Smith's injury issues

538
00:26:12,359 --> 00:26:14,560
Speaker 1: or a thing that get talked about a lot. Where

539
00:26:14,560 --> 00:26:17,119
Speaker 1: can this team find a tackle that suits its need?

540
00:26:17,240 --> 00:26:19,840
Speaker 1: I e. A swing tackle that can also step in

541
00:26:19,920 --> 00:26:21,400
Speaker 1: for a start. They we're gonna be hearing those two

542
00:26:21,440 --> 00:26:24,400
Speaker 1: words a lot of think the swing tackle. Yeah, that's

543
00:26:24,440 --> 00:26:25,920
Speaker 1: something that I know a lot of fans. Yeah, I

544
00:26:26,240 --> 00:26:28,000
Speaker 1: throw that out there a lot. I kind of I'll

545
00:26:28,000 --> 00:26:30,879
Speaker 1: take it's it's not a it's not a it's a

546
00:26:31,080 --> 00:26:32,800
Speaker 1: it's a real thing. I mean you do. Yeah, but

547
00:26:32,840 --> 00:26:35,880
Speaker 1: you need somebody. I mean they're only gonna dress seven. Yeah,

548
00:26:36,240 --> 00:26:37,920
Speaker 1: you know, a guy's gonna have to play the left

549
00:26:37,920 --> 00:26:40,600
Speaker 1: and right side. Yeah. I actually think there's some pretty

550
00:26:40,600 --> 00:26:44,320
Speaker 1: good candidates. Okay, I really do Top one h Parker?

551
00:26:44,480 --> 00:26:48,840
Speaker 1: Where do you have Parker? Uh NCA and t Kid? Yeah? Third, Okay,

552
00:26:49,040 --> 00:26:51,520
Speaker 1: I like him a lot. Yeah, we talked about Oka four.

553
00:26:52,240 --> 00:26:55,040
Speaker 1: Now he's not ready maybe, but I'm not sure I'd

554
00:26:55,160 --> 00:26:58,160
Speaker 1: draft him, really, be honest with you, Like, I'll grate

555
00:26:58,280 --> 00:27:00,560
Speaker 1: him on my my rankings because I great every player,

556
00:27:00,600 --> 00:27:02,679
Speaker 1: but I'm not serod draft him because I worry about

557
00:27:02,760 --> 00:27:06,399
Speaker 1: his He's not a glass eater. Oh he's not a

558
00:27:06,440 --> 00:27:08,679
Speaker 1: tough guy, and I'm not I'm not gonna go as

559
00:27:08,680 --> 00:27:10,679
Speaker 1: far as to call him soft or anything, you know,

560
00:27:10,720 --> 00:27:13,600
Speaker 1: but he's just he's not a natural football player who

561
00:27:13,720 --> 00:27:16,359
Speaker 1: grinds it out. And right, let me take you off that.

562
00:27:16,440 --> 00:27:20,200
Speaker 1: How about Ranking from Mississippi State. I like Ranking? Uh

563
00:27:20,320 --> 00:27:22,159
Speaker 1: do you think he can hold up a tackle? I

564
00:27:22,240 --> 00:27:24,600
Speaker 1: kind of worry me a little bit. I think he

565
00:27:24,680 --> 00:27:28,320
Speaker 1: might be a better center, to be honest, but that's

566
00:27:28,320 --> 00:27:31,240
Speaker 1: a that's that's like watching Cole Yeah, Cole playing. Well,

567
00:27:31,320 --> 00:27:33,679
Speaker 1: it's such a weird flex tackle center. All right, how

568
00:27:33,680 --> 00:27:34,919
Speaker 1: about this and let me tell you another name. How

569
00:27:34,920 --> 00:27:38,280
Speaker 1: about Crosby from Oregon. Yeah, I like Crosby. I think

570
00:27:38,280 --> 00:27:42,200
Speaker 1: he's um in the second round. Okay, yeah, I actually

571
00:27:42,200 --> 00:27:45,560
Speaker 1: have him the third. Uh. Well, let me put it

572
00:27:45,600 --> 00:27:47,480
Speaker 1: this way. I think he's gonna go in the second round. Okay,

573
00:27:47,480 --> 00:27:51,320
Speaker 1: because again tackle supplying to man, Yeah, they're they're gonna

574
00:27:51,320 --> 00:27:55,080
Speaker 1: go high. About Jones from Ohio, State didn't like him

575
00:27:55,080 --> 00:27:56,840
Speaker 1: as much as you did. I think I gave him

576
00:27:56,840 --> 00:27:59,719
Speaker 1: a three. Okay, that's why I have him. Okay, him Parker.

577
00:28:00,000 --> 00:28:03,000
Speaker 1: There's whether it's be from LSU. Let me be, let

578
00:28:03,000 --> 00:28:06,240
Speaker 1: me be a little more direct. How comfortable the y'all like,

579
00:28:06,320 --> 00:28:09,320
Speaker 1: How high the y'all feel comfortable picking this guy knowing

580
00:28:09,440 --> 00:28:12,840
Speaker 1: that ideally his job is to be the third tackle.

581
00:28:13,359 --> 00:28:16,000
Speaker 1: This is where I this is where I look at

582
00:28:15,760 --> 00:28:19,119
Speaker 1: at Paul Alexander and I say, listen, you need to

583
00:28:19,160 --> 00:28:23,760
Speaker 1: find a way to get Chads Green. Ready. Oh no,

584
00:28:24,000 --> 00:28:26,080
Speaker 1: scared the crap out of all of our listeners. Okay,

585
00:28:26,080 --> 00:28:30,200
Speaker 1: but listen to me here. Chads Green had one bad

586
00:28:30,280 --> 00:28:34,879
Speaker 1: game against Atlanta, like a historically bad game, but in

587
00:28:34,960 --> 00:28:38,360
Speaker 1: the in the previous season when he was in the

588
00:28:38,480 --> 00:28:41,160
Speaker 1: reason why they put him out there was because this,

589
00:28:41,600 --> 00:28:43,360
Speaker 1: I'm gonna say this till him blue in the face.

590
00:28:43,680 --> 00:28:46,160
Speaker 1: They did him a disservice by playing him at guard,

591
00:28:46,760 --> 00:28:50,040
Speaker 1: by taking him as they should have. They should have

592
00:28:50,080 --> 00:28:53,520
Speaker 1: had a they had a plan if something happens with Smith,

593
00:28:54,360 --> 00:28:56,920
Speaker 1: use him as your backup left tack. Hey, and I

594
00:28:57,000 --> 00:28:59,760
Speaker 1: hear you, and I'm I never agreed with anybody that

595
00:28:59,800 --> 00:29:02,320
Speaker 1: thought Chaz Green should be cut, but he's still a

596
00:29:03,200 --> 00:29:05,640
Speaker 1: You can't trust him completely and be he's heading into

597
00:29:05,680 --> 00:29:09,480
Speaker 1: a contract so I just don't. Can't you can't. Okay,

598
00:29:09,480 --> 00:29:12,240
Speaker 1: before the Atlanta game, could you trust him? Yes? Funny

599
00:29:12,280 --> 00:29:15,560
Speaker 1: how that works? Huh Yeah, you guys sound a little neat. Okay,

600
00:29:15,640 --> 00:29:19,360
Speaker 1: but he's heading into a contract season. That's fine. Play him,

601
00:29:19,400 --> 00:29:21,440
Speaker 1: but figure it out. You find a way to get

602
00:29:21,520 --> 00:29:24,200
Speaker 1: him better. You not want to try to address the

603
00:29:24,200 --> 00:29:26,440
Speaker 1: long term future of the position. I just named off

604
00:29:26,440 --> 00:29:28,360
Speaker 1: five guys, and every one of them he went, I

605
00:29:28,400 --> 00:29:30,560
Speaker 1: don't think the guy could play. He's not a glass eater.

606
00:29:30,680 --> 00:29:34,000
Speaker 1: I don't like every one of those guys, not everyone. No,

607
00:29:34,120 --> 00:29:36,959
Speaker 1: but what I said about one guy, but the other

608
00:29:37,000 --> 00:29:39,560
Speaker 1: guys didn't get me all. You took one of the

609
00:29:39,560 --> 00:29:41,360
Speaker 1: guys that said you think brought us he could be

610
00:29:41,400 --> 00:29:44,000
Speaker 1: a sinner. I think it might be his best position

611
00:29:44,080 --> 00:29:47,440
Speaker 1: long term. You guys, what are you doing? Brian's angry?

612
00:29:47,960 --> 00:29:50,640
Speaker 1: What are you doing? Seriously, I'm looking for a tackle

613
00:29:50,680 --> 00:29:53,480
Speaker 1: I can draft on Day three to you might hate

614
00:29:53,560 --> 00:29:56,920
Speaker 1: Chaz Green, but you hate these other guys more. Well, No,

615
00:29:56,960 --> 00:29:58,479
Speaker 1: I just I don't think you could rely on Chaz

616
00:29:58,600 --> 00:30:01,600
Speaker 1: Green's sound like you can run and five guys I

617
00:30:01,720 --> 00:30:04,719
Speaker 1: named you No, because this is not a great tackle class.

618
00:30:04,960 --> 00:30:07,000
Speaker 1: It's not. It's not. You're not gonna find a lot

619
00:30:07,000 --> 00:30:09,320
Speaker 1: of depth, not a lot of value. One one name

620
00:30:09,320 --> 00:30:11,160
Speaker 1: to keep an eye. On day three, he's like, oh,

621
00:30:11,160 --> 00:30:13,000
Speaker 1: he's avoiding me. He knows he's looking right at you.

622
00:30:13,080 --> 00:30:15,280
Speaker 1: Good because I don't love the talent on day two

623
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Speaker 1: of this draft. To day make me feel better? Do it?

624
00:30:17,800 --> 00:30:21,920
Speaker 1: Come on tackle from Stony Brook? Oh God, that doesn't.

625
00:30:21,960 --> 00:30:26,440
Speaker 1: That doesn't. Okay, No, this is going along with again,

626
00:30:26,520 --> 00:30:28,840
Speaker 1: Chad's Greenford one more year. Again, going along with what

627
00:30:28,920 --> 00:30:31,840
Speaker 1: you're saying. Tell Paulexander get him ready, you're you have chat.

628
00:30:32,040 --> 00:30:35,680
Speaker 1: What about Parker? Then, well, I think asking price if

629
00:30:35,680 --> 00:30:38,480
Speaker 1: the if at eighty one, okay, you know, maybe I

630
00:30:38,480 --> 00:30:40,200
Speaker 1: think he should be in consideration, but he might be

631
00:30:40,240 --> 00:30:42,040
Speaker 1: gone there or it might be a better option. So

632
00:30:42,080 --> 00:30:45,040
Speaker 1: I think he should be in consideration. But if you

633
00:30:45,080 --> 00:30:48,360
Speaker 1: want to starter, or say you go nose tackle, corner,

634
00:30:48,480 --> 00:30:51,200
Speaker 1: linebacker your first three picks, and you still need that

635
00:30:51,280 --> 00:30:56,600
Speaker 1: tackle fourth fifth round, timon Paris from uh ST Stony Brook.

636
00:30:56,680 --> 00:30:59,800
Speaker 1: He's a guy that you can develop. I mean, let

637
00:30:59,840 --> 00:31:02,240
Speaker 1: me you didn't like weather be at all from LSU?

638
00:31:02,480 --> 00:31:05,520
Speaker 1: Did he was? I hang him of four? So another

639
00:31:05,560 --> 00:31:09,720
Speaker 1: guy didn't like top one hundred. But ye day three,

640
00:31:09,800 --> 00:31:11,480
Speaker 1: early day three, I think you'd be pot Would you

641
00:31:11,480 --> 00:31:13,040
Speaker 1: like to go on record and say you wouldn't draft

642
00:31:13,120 --> 00:31:15,440
Speaker 1: him like you've done some other guys. One guy, I said, well,

643
00:31:15,440 --> 00:31:17,120
Speaker 1: I'm just asking now. I just want to I want

644
00:31:17,120 --> 00:31:20,080
Speaker 1: to learn no figure that our most contentious debate is

645
00:31:20,120 --> 00:31:23,240
Speaker 1: about the third tackle on the team. I just I

646
00:31:23,320 --> 00:31:25,680
Speaker 1: just this team, this team needs to go get free

647
00:31:25,680 --> 00:31:28,520
Speaker 1: agent offensive lineman. That's what I think. Um, that's just

648
00:31:28,640 --> 00:31:31,320
Speaker 1: that costs you money. I'm not you don't have to

649
00:31:31,360 --> 00:31:33,280
Speaker 1: give a guy a forty million dollar deal. You just

650
00:31:33,360 --> 00:31:35,400
Speaker 1: need to go get somebody. I'm on board getting a

651
00:31:35,440 --> 00:31:37,680
Speaker 1: swing tackle. I just don't love the value a day

652
00:31:37,680 --> 00:31:40,080
Speaker 1: two in this draft, Um, that the tackles that you're

653
00:31:40,080 --> 00:31:42,000
Speaker 1: gonna get because again supply and demand, these tackles are

654
00:31:42,000 --> 00:31:43,880
Speaker 1: gonna pushed up the board. They're gonna go a lot

655
00:31:43,880 --> 00:31:45,760
Speaker 1: earlier than you would take them. So I think your

656
00:31:45,800 --> 00:31:48,880
Speaker 1: best route might be you live with Chaz Green, or

657
00:31:48,880 --> 00:31:51,240
Speaker 1: you're adding free agency and then you draft a developmental

658
00:31:51,240 --> 00:31:55,040
Speaker 1: tackle on Day three. That I you know, bring them

659
00:31:55,040 --> 00:31:57,080
Speaker 1: along and then by you know, next year, he's your

660
00:31:57,120 --> 00:31:59,240
Speaker 1: swing tackle. I'd be a new coaching staff if you

661
00:31:59,280 --> 00:32:01,960
Speaker 1: don't develop. But he don't coach Chaz Green up a

662
00:32:02,000 --> 00:32:04,120
Speaker 1: little bit. I'm gonna try to save a little time

663
00:32:04,200 --> 00:32:06,800
Speaker 1: here because these two positions remind me a lot of

664
00:32:06,800 --> 00:32:11,320
Speaker 1: each other. Defensive tackle. We have talked an enormous amount

665
00:32:11,360 --> 00:32:14,959
Speaker 1: about Vita Vea and Maurice Hearst as possibilities at nineteen

666
00:32:15,440 --> 00:32:18,760
Speaker 1: at linebacker. We have also done the same thing with

667
00:32:18,880 --> 00:32:23,960
Speaker 1: Roquan Smith and Tremaine Edmonds, who maybe nineteens not realistic,

668
00:32:24,000 --> 00:32:28,520
Speaker 1: but you you hope for the best. Make me feel

669
00:32:28,600 --> 00:32:32,560
Speaker 1: better about who those guys could be and when they

670
00:32:32,560 --> 00:32:36,480
Speaker 1: could be drafted. If not those guys at linebacker. At

671
00:32:36,520 --> 00:32:40,880
Speaker 1: both spots, where do you have Sinshi? Hey, all right,

672
00:32:40,880 --> 00:32:45,000
Speaker 1: we're talking two positions here, Sonack Wisconsin. There you go,

673
00:32:45,120 --> 00:32:49,120
Speaker 1: Jack Sinshi. It's it's hard because his draft grade is

674
00:32:49,160 --> 00:32:52,400
Speaker 1: based on twenty sixteen tape. Well, it's based entirely on

675
00:32:52,440 --> 00:32:55,000
Speaker 1: the medicals. Yeah, how did those come back? If his

676
00:32:55,120 --> 00:32:57,560
Speaker 1: medicals come back, I'm looking at this kid, Oh yeah,

677
00:32:57,560 --> 00:33:00,280
Speaker 1: oh absolutely, if he's healthy. If the medicals are aren't

678
00:33:00,320 --> 00:33:03,520
Speaker 1: an issue. He's a top fifty player. Okay, I mean,

679
00:33:03,560 --> 00:33:05,600
Speaker 1: so that's a type of talent we're talking about. This

680
00:33:05,720 --> 00:33:08,360
Speaker 1: is a former walk on, went to Wisconsin, developed into

681
00:33:08,400 --> 00:33:11,840
Speaker 1: a starter. My problem with him the last two years Okay,

682
00:33:11,880 --> 00:33:15,080
Speaker 1: he's played seven games the last two years. He hasn't

683
00:33:15,120 --> 00:33:17,920
Speaker 1: He hasn't started since last October of twenty and sixteen.

684
00:33:17,960 --> 00:33:20,840
Speaker 1: Sounds like another linebacker we got here, and that's the

685
00:33:21,320 --> 00:33:25,040
Speaker 1: that's the worry with Sitchi. So do you feel like

686
00:33:25,080 --> 00:33:27,360
Speaker 1: though that teams won't take him early? Then it just

687
00:33:27,440 --> 00:33:32,080
Speaker 1: it depends on medicals. If twenty sixteen tape is very good, yeah, yeah,

688
00:33:32,160 --> 00:33:36,840
Speaker 1: before we tour, meaning Wisconsin puts out linebackers, they do so,

689
00:33:36,840 --> 00:33:40,400
Speaker 1: so Citchi is a top fifty talent. The medicals. You

690
00:33:40,400 --> 00:33:42,560
Speaker 1: trust your doctors if they say, I know a lot

691
00:33:42,600 --> 00:33:44,360
Speaker 1: of fans are listening to this saying, no, forget them.

692
00:33:44,360 --> 00:33:47,160
Speaker 1: As soon as they hear these injured questions. Now I'll

693
00:33:47,240 --> 00:33:49,200
Speaker 1: let me let me kill them. That's what I do

694
00:33:49,280 --> 00:33:51,400
Speaker 1: with like Jalen Smith and guys like that. You gotta

695
00:33:51,440 --> 00:33:53,440
Speaker 1: you gotta trust the doctor. And if the doctor says,

696
00:33:53,480 --> 00:33:55,480
Speaker 1: you know what, he just bad luck, he should be

697
00:33:55,840 --> 00:33:57,560
Speaker 1: you know fully on the men to be close one

698
00:33:57,600 --> 00:34:00,280
Speaker 1: hundred percent by training camp. Hey, you feel good about

699
00:34:00,360 --> 00:34:06,720
Speaker 1: him at eighty one? Him or Jewel, Josie Jewel? Iowa, Um,

700
00:34:06,760 --> 00:34:08,640
Speaker 1: I mean I've got Jewel higher right now because of

701
00:34:08,760 --> 00:34:12,120
Speaker 1: the two situation. What about the by U kid Warner?

702
00:34:12,719 --> 00:34:14,799
Speaker 1: I like him a lot too. I think at eighty

703
00:34:14,840 --> 00:34:16,319
Speaker 1: one he'd be a heck of a pick. I think

704
00:34:16,320 --> 00:34:20,200
Speaker 1: if you talk to Kavanaugh and Katie, they they're they're

705
00:34:20,239 --> 00:34:23,600
Speaker 1: they're they're rallying against him. They hate everybody, No, they don't.

706
00:34:23,680 --> 00:34:25,839
Speaker 1: They don't hate everybody. They get in discussions like Dan

707
00:34:25,920 --> 00:34:28,200
Speaker 1: and I just had about offensive linemen stuff. I mean,

708
00:34:28,520 --> 00:34:30,680
Speaker 1: I like one. I think Warner is going to be

709
00:34:30,719 --> 00:34:32,920
Speaker 1: a really good player. I do. I think that. I

710
00:34:32,920 --> 00:34:34,680
Speaker 1: think you could play him with a a lot of different spots.

711
00:34:34,800 --> 00:34:36,759
Speaker 1: He could play him every down. He doesn't get he

712
00:34:36,760 --> 00:34:38,319
Speaker 1: won't come off the field. He'll need him to. And

713
00:34:38,360 --> 00:34:41,760
Speaker 1: he's in ARCAG. Yeah you know what I mean. Uh

714
00:34:41,800 --> 00:34:45,080
Speaker 1: he's a guy that is a team captain. He didn't

715
00:34:45,080 --> 00:34:48,399
Speaker 1: miss a game in the last three years. Uh So yeah,

716
00:34:48,520 --> 00:34:50,600
Speaker 1: give me Warner if he's there at eighty one. I

717
00:34:50,600 --> 00:34:53,319
Speaker 1: think that is your consolation prize and you feel good

718
00:34:53,320 --> 00:34:55,920
Speaker 1: about it after not getting quand orm Tremaine Edmunds in

719
00:34:55,960 --> 00:35:00,000
Speaker 1: the first round. All right, how about d tackle real quick? Uh?

720
00:35:00,000 --> 00:35:01,880
Speaker 1: A guy that I know you guys recently just watched

721
00:35:01,920 --> 00:35:04,399
Speaker 1: and love one of my five favorite players. You did

722
00:35:04,400 --> 00:35:06,920
Speaker 1: have him first. I give Dane Burglar full credit for this.

723
00:35:07,000 --> 00:35:09,480
Speaker 1: One of my five favorite players in this draft from UCF,

724
00:35:09,880 --> 00:35:13,000
Speaker 1: Dedrin Senat, the nose tackle who and a lot of

725
00:35:13,000 --> 00:35:15,239
Speaker 1: people here South Florida and they think a small watch

726
00:35:15,280 --> 00:35:18,439
Speaker 1: him guy. He had a full ride to Florida State.

727
00:35:18,760 --> 00:35:21,040
Speaker 1: He chose to go to South Florida. It had been

728
00:35:21,080 --> 00:35:24,320
Speaker 1: better than naughty. Yeah, yeah, he would a better player.

729
00:35:24,320 --> 00:35:26,200
Speaker 1: I've got him just ahead of naughty, and I like

730
00:35:26,280 --> 00:35:28,680
Speaker 1: Naughty two from Florida State. A good player, so not

731
00:35:28,800 --> 00:35:31,000
Speaker 1: your He's your no. If you don't get Vita veau

732
00:35:31,560 --> 00:35:35,040
Speaker 1: in at nineteen or your nose tackle, Sonat's the guy

733
00:35:35,080 --> 00:35:37,560
Speaker 1: to look at at day two. This is this is me,

734
00:35:37,840 --> 00:35:41,520
Speaker 1: This is me right here. If if this is why

735
00:35:41,680 --> 00:35:46,040
Speaker 1: I wouldn't I would consider guard at nineteen. This is

736
00:35:46,040 --> 00:35:48,640
Speaker 1: why you keep talking about how many defensive tackles you're

737
00:35:48,640 --> 00:35:52,040
Speaker 1: watching that you like bingo. I feel better about the

738
00:35:52,080 --> 00:35:56,000
Speaker 1: one technique defensive tackles. If that's route, I don't. I

739
00:35:56,000 --> 00:36:00,680
Speaker 1: don't feel tremendously great about Hurst defensive tack Chael Michigan.

740
00:36:00,960 --> 00:36:03,320
Speaker 1: I don't feel tremendously great about him. I need to

741
00:36:03,360 --> 00:36:06,600
Speaker 1: go back and really grind that one down. But I

742
00:36:06,640 --> 00:36:09,160
Speaker 1: will tell you this though, I do feel good about

743
00:36:09,239 --> 00:36:17,160
Speaker 1: Vya Son, Payne, Phillips, Naughty Ford. I just named five guys,

744
00:36:17,239 --> 00:36:20,640
Speaker 1: six guys, didn't I write there for you that? I mean,

745
00:36:20,719 --> 00:36:23,840
Speaker 1: like I say, it's if you had to find a

746
00:36:23,880 --> 00:36:27,239
Speaker 1: one technique. Those guys can play one technique and be good. Yeah,

747
00:36:27,440 --> 00:36:33,319
Speaker 1: he loves Phillips. He's right about Phillips. Stanford deepense. For

748
00:36:33,440 --> 00:36:35,359
Speaker 1: all the talk of these two guys at the top,

749
00:36:35,560 --> 00:36:38,279
Speaker 1: this is a deep position. Wait, we'll see linebacker. We

750
00:36:38,360 --> 00:36:40,560
Speaker 1: talk about two guys for a reason because we don't

751
00:36:40,600 --> 00:36:42,799
Speaker 1: feel great about it. I don't feel good about the

752
00:36:42,840 --> 00:36:46,360
Speaker 1: three techniques and so But David Irving, you know, maybe

753
00:36:46,400 --> 00:36:48,400
Speaker 1: somebody in the draft is gonna go, you know what,

754
00:36:48,520 --> 00:36:51,399
Speaker 1: we can't find this guy could play three technique. Maybe

755
00:36:51,400 --> 00:36:53,200
Speaker 1: we have to give up a second round pick to

756
00:36:53,239 --> 00:36:56,520
Speaker 1: get You know, I'm not buying your hype that Malique

757
00:36:56,560 --> 00:36:58,880
Speaker 1: can only play one anyway, for whatever that's worth. So

758
00:36:59,200 --> 00:37:01,680
Speaker 1: it's fine, play three. That's fine. I mean, I'm just

759
00:37:01,800 --> 00:37:05,439
Speaker 1: telling you though, if you don't get disappointed if vita

760
00:37:05,480 --> 00:37:08,440
Speaker 1: Vea is not there. Yeah, and even if he's there

761
00:37:08,480 --> 00:37:11,240
Speaker 1: and they don't take him, that will be the great hindsight,

762
00:37:11,480 --> 00:37:15,759
Speaker 1: you know, that'll be the great hindsight the one or no,

763
00:37:15,760 --> 00:37:18,160
Speaker 1: no exactly, or it'd be like it'd be like, you know,

764
00:37:18,239 --> 00:37:21,239
Speaker 1: with what they should have taken. What I mean, that's

765
00:37:21,320 --> 00:37:23,160
Speaker 1: you know, they that's kind of how this is going

766
00:37:23,200 --> 00:37:26,719
Speaker 1: to work. To me, Veya, if you pass on Vitavea

767
00:37:27,200 --> 00:37:28,719
Speaker 1: not as big of a deal of passing on what

768
00:37:29,000 --> 00:37:32,280
Speaker 1: vita Vea has his issues. He's not the perfect clean player.

769
00:37:32,560 --> 00:37:34,480
Speaker 1: This is a guy that the physical traits are off

770
00:37:34,520 --> 00:37:38,200
Speaker 1: the charts. Discipline, technique, effort, those are all up and down.

771
00:37:38,239 --> 00:37:40,799
Speaker 1: Oh no, and so but I feel better about the

772
00:37:40,800 --> 00:37:44,200
Speaker 1: overall position of one technique the three technique. I agree.

773
00:37:44,280 --> 00:37:45,880
Speaker 1: One thing I will kind of disagree with you. I

774
00:37:45,920 --> 00:37:47,960
Speaker 1: didn't get to take the best player at nineteen. I

775
00:37:47,960 --> 00:37:50,000
Speaker 1: don't like I don't like the idea of thinking, well,

776
00:37:50,000 --> 00:37:52,520
Speaker 1: this is better and now if the players are even yeah,

777
00:37:52,520 --> 00:37:54,440
Speaker 1: if you know, if you if you their stat will

778
00:37:54,440 --> 00:37:56,440
Speaker 1: have him separate. You know that well, I mean if

779
00:37:56,480 --> 00:37:58,520
Speaker 1: you all right, say you view Vita Vea and Isaiah

780
00:37:58,560 --> 00:38:02,880
Speaker 1: Win like almost dead similar grade one. Oh, then I agree,

781
00:38:03,080 --> 00:38:05,160
Speaker 1: you know, looking towards the future of the position in

782
00:38:05,200 --> 00:38:08,120
Speaker 1: the second third round. But if you like a guy,

783
00:38:08,160 --> 00:38:10,240
Speaker 1: if he's a hot, better first round player on your board,

784
00:38:11,000 --> 00:38:12,839
Speaker 1: I'm a fan of taking that, stay and put stay,

785
00:38:12,960 --> 00:38:15,440
Speaker 1: taking that player as opposed to, well, this other position

786
00:38:15,480 --> 00:38:18,239
Speaker 1: has better depth. Would you take senate at AT's not

787
00:38:18,480 --> 00:38:22,880
Speaker 1: at at fifty? I could envision a scenario. Yeah, I

788
00:38:22,880 --> 00:38:25,439
Speaker 1: mean he didn't make my top fifty, but close right, yeah,

789
00:38:25,440 --> 00:38:27,399
Speaker 1: I mean he's right there in that mix. It could,

790
00:38:27,600 --> 00:38:29,359
Speaker 1: it could happen. I think the main thing I learned

791
00:38:29,360 --> 00:38:31,200
Speaker 1: about the draft as I do this more and more

792
00:38:31,280 --> 00:38:33,520
Speaker 1: is that there aren't a lot of teams that truly

793
00:38:33,560 --> 00:38:37,120
Speaker 1: have the discipline to do that. Like they get caught up.

794
00:38:37,200 --> 00:38:41,640
Speaker 1: It's it's it's best player, by need best player. But

795
00:38:41,840 --> 00:38:43,719
Speaker 1: we're screwed if we don't, you know what I mean.

796
00:38:44,880 --> 00:38:48,040
Speaker 1: I'm a dinosaur in this. I'm a dinosaur in scouting

797
00:38:48,080 --> 00:38:50,480
Speaker 1: because of my background with the Packers, because we were

798
00:38:50,480 --> 00:38:52,759
Speaker 1: a best player and we never went on I mean

799
00:38:52,800 --> 00:38:54,400
Speaker 1: we didn't really go on knee. We just took the

800
00:38:54,440 --> 00:38:57,560
Speaker 1: best player. But nowadays it really is. I trying to

801
00:38:57,640 --> 00:39:00,359
Speaker 1: argue that, but I can't because team's draft need all

802
00:39:00,360 --> 00:39:02,840
Speaker 1: the time they do well. And I think people have

803
00:39:02,840 --> 00:39:04,880
Speaker 1: to keep in mind too, that a lot of teams

804
00:39:05,080 --> 00:39:08,040
Speaker 1: their draft board consists of one hundred and thirty players.

805
00:39:08,040 --> 00:39:10,239
Speaker 1: One hundred and fifty players, yeah, hundred eighty player. I

806
00:39:10,280 --> 00:39:13,160
Speaker 1: mean it's not the three hundred. Trust me, our board

807
00:39:13,200 --> 00:39:14,960
Speaker 1: would be that way, right, it's not you know, we're

808
00:39:15,000 --> 00:39:16,960
Speaker 1: looking at all these guys, but a lot of teams

809
00:39:17,160 --> 00:39:20,560
Speaker 1: it's not that that extensive of a board, and so

810
00:39:21,080 --> 00:39:22,759
Speaker 1: it might not be as much of a reach in

811
00:39:22,800 --> 00:39:25,080
Speaker 1: their eyes. There you go, Do you want to take

812
00:39:25,080 --> 00:39:27,680
Speaker 1: a break and finish this or just try to roll through? No, no,

813
00:39:27,840 --> 00:39:29,640
Speaker 1: let's let's let's take a break and then we'll come

814
00:39:29,640 --> 00:39:32,640
Speaker 1: back and finish it up. And then yeah, two more positions. Yeah,

815
00:39:32,680 --> 00:39:35,040
Speaker 1: but we'll we'll we'll do we'll go quick. Okay, yeah,

816
00:39:35,160 --> 00:39:37,759
Speaker 1: get two. I do want to get to people's questions. Okay,

817
00:39:37,800 --> 00:39:40,200
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00:41:09,920 --> 00:41:12,839
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851
00:41:15,120 --> 00:41:18,160
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852
00:41:18,280 --> 00:41:20,839
Speaker 1: game's on the line, you're on your feet, whether you're

853
00:41:20,880 --> 00:41:23,520
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854
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855
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Speaker 1: the Dallas Cowboys dot Com Draft show. Cowboys on the

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00:41:44,920 --> 00:41:47,360
Speaker 1: the draft show. I'm gonna finish this thing up. We

861
00:41:47,360 --> 00:41:49,360
Speaker 1: gotta get out here a little early. Like I said,

862
00:41:49,360 --> 00:41:51,120
Speaker 1: we got something we have to do, so we're gonna

863
00:41:51,280 --> 00:41:53,319
Speaker 1: David hustle all but we got this all right. I'm

864
00:41:53,320 --> 00:41:56,040
Speaker 1: glad Dane mentioned t J. Watt because he almost won

865
00:41:56,080 --> 00:41:58,840
Speaker 1: Defensive Rookie of the Year as the sixth pass rusher

866
00:41:58,920 --> 00:42:03,400
Speaker 1: taken in last year's draft. That's how good that class was.

867
00:42:04,280 --> 00:42:06,800
Speaker 1: Make me feel better about the fact that it doesn't

868
00:42:06,800 --> 00:42:10,520
Speaker 1: feel as deep this year. And I'm sitting here thinking

869
00:42:11,440 --> 00:42:14,640
Speaker 1: I don't necessarily love my options at nineteen other than

870
00:42:14,680 --> 00:42:19,319
Speaker 1: maybe Davenport, right, I mean, Chubb won't be there, And

871
00:42:19,360 --> 00:42:23,560
Speaker 1: then I think, I don't know, well, it's early, lest

872
00:42:23,920 --> 00:42:26,160
Speaker 1: I don't love my options at fifty. Basically, I mean,

873
00:42:26,280 --> 00:42:28,879
Speaker 1: is this position deep enough that you can afford to

874
00:42:28,920 --> 00:42:31,359
Speaker 1: wait on it? Is? Basically how I want you to

875
00:42:31,360 --> 00:42:33,400
Speaker 1: make me feel better if you can. I think this

876
00:42:33,440 --> 00:42:36,360
Speaker 1: group has a lot of talent, yeah, but it doesn't

877
00:42:36,360 --> 00:42:38,680
Speaker 1: have a lot of polished players that you feel really

878
00:42:38,719 --> 00:42:41,560
Speaker 1: good about. You know, each one. You can pull holes

879
00:42:41,640 --> 00:42:45,040
Speaker 1: in all these guys. Right after Chubb even Davenport to

880
00:42:45,080 --> 00:42:47,560
Speaker 1: an extent. You know, I think there's a handful of

881
00:42:47,560 --> 00:42:51,959
Speaker 1: guys you consider at nineteen. Maybe not a handful, maybe

882
00:42:51,960 --> 00:42:55,879
Speaker 1: like a few, Yeah, Sam Hubbard being one from Ohio State.

883
00:42:56,040 --> 00:42:59,360
Speaker 1: Harold Landry from Boston College. Harold Landry a guy that

884
00:42:59,560 --> 00:43:01,480
Speaker 1: based on he has in sixteen tape, you see a

885
00:43:01,520 --> 00:43:06,440
Speaker 1: first rounder. Sure this year. Injuries, other factors. He couldn't

886
00:43:06,600 --> 00:43:09,000
Speaker 1: perform in the Senior Bowl because of injuries, and then

887
00:43:09,040 --> 00:43:11,480
Speaker 1: in the day two you have plenty of question marks.

888
00:43:12,239 --> 00:43:15,480
Speaker 1: Arden Key, Yeah, I don't think he's a consideration for

889
00:43:15,520 --> 00:43:17,640
Speaker 1: this team. With the Randy Gregory situation, Yes, I would

890
00:43:17,640 --> 00:43:21,120
Speaker 1: agree that quo with the size, how does he fit? Yes?

891
00:43:22,719 --> 00:43:25,719
Speaker 1: Maybe the most The biggest mystery of all is Hercules

892
00:43:25,760 --> 00:43:28,960
Speaker 1: mod Offa from Washington State. Who you watch him and

893
00:43:29,160 --> 00:43:31,640
Speaker 1: he lined up as a more of a three technique

894
00:43:31,640 --> 00:43:35,239
Speaker 1: on the interior. His initial burst off the ball is amazing.

895
00:43:36,280 --> 00:43:39,520
Speaker 1: I'll throw Armstrong from Kansas another good player, but again

896
00:43:39,560 --> 00:43:41,839
Speaker 1: I think he's probably more of a stand up guy. Yeah.

897
00:43:41,880 --> 00:43:43,879
Speaker 1: It could be alignman, It depends on where people look

898
00:43:43,880 --> 00:43:45,920
Speaker 1: at him. He might be a three four outside lineback

899
00:43:46,080 --> 00:43:48,920
Speaker 1: him in NUOSU for USC same paper. Yeah, there's a

900
00:43:49,000 --> 00:43:51,200
Speaker 1: lot of tweeters. There are lot of tweeters in this thing.

901
00:43:51,560 --> 00:43:53,760
Speaker 1: That's always the key of the draft. How the draft,

902
00:43:53,960 --> 00:43:57,680
Speaker 1: how these defensive end, these tweeter guys, how they fit. Yeah,

903
00:43:58,280 --> 00:44:00,960
Speaker 1: dictates how draft is gonna go in my opinion, Right, Yeah,

904
00:44:01,239 --> 00:44:03,120
Speaker 1: I think if you're looking for a defensive end, your

905
00:44:03,160 --> 00:44:07,400
Speaker 1: best bet is probably waiting until days two, third round

906
00:44:07,480 --> 00:44:11,960
Speaker 1: and seeing if a duke ed four men. Yeah, you know,

907
00:44:12,920 --> 00:44:14,839
Speaker 1: it's just a lot of question marks in this draft.

908
00:44:14,840 --> 00:44:16,120
Speaker 1: A pass rusher and one of these A few of

909
00:44:16,120 --> 00:44:18,279
Speaker 1: these guys are gonna hit Harold Andrew you know, maybe

910
00:44:18,320 --> 00:44:20,920
Speaker 1: a pro bowler next year. But again, all these guys

911
00:44:21,080 --> 00:44:23,760
Speaker 1: after Chub, you can pull holes in him. Yeah, assuming

912
00:44:23,960 --> 00:44:26,359
Speaker 1: I know we've talked about this real but assuming he fell,

913
00:44:27,080 --> 00:44:31,280
Speaker 1: would you take to Avenport? H I would, Yes, I think, yeah,

914
00:44:31,280 --> 00:44:34,080
Speaker 1: that's I think. Yeah, I think that's a That's one

915
00:44:34,120 --> 00:44:36,839
Speaker 1: of those ones to me that you kind of look

916
00:44:36,840 --> 00:44:39,120
Speaker 1: at the situation you say, well, hey, maybe we got

917
00:44:39,120 --> 00:44:42,160
Speaker 1: a gift here. Yeah, you know, we got the raw guy,

918
00:44:42,360 --> 00:44:45,840
Speaker 1: but you know the guy that you can get developed. Yeah,

919
00:44:45,880 --> 00:44:48,359
Speaker 1: I'm only going to do safety. I mean, if y'all

920
00:44:48,400 --> 00:44:50,400
Speaker 1: desperately want us to do corner. We can do it

921
00:44:50,440 --> 00:44:52,960
Speaker 1: at another time. But this team has a lot of corners.

922
00:44:52,960 --> 00:44:54,640
Speaker 1: A lot of corners, yeah, a lot of corners, probably

923
00:44:54,640 --> 00:44:58,680
Speaker 1: a deepest position. Yeah, I think so. Um players. I

924
00:44:58,760 --> 00:45:03,000
Speaker 1: want to know about safety because if it's not Derwin

925
00:45:03,160 --> 00:45:06,840
Speaker 1: James at nineteen, then I don't know where to draft

926
00:45:06,840 --> 00:45:09,560
Speaker 1: a safety where it makes sense. I don't really, I

927
00:45:09,920 --> 00:45:11,719
Speaker 1: don't have a firm grasp on that. I don't know

928
00:45:11,719 --> 00:45:17,080
Speaker 1: trade back in value with golden but yeah, I mean yeah,

929
00:45:17,320 --> 00:45:19,640
Speaker 1: I would playim it free. Yeah, he's that nickel n

930
00:45:20,719 --> 00:45:23,080
Speaker 1: You could do both. Yeah, I do too. He's kind

931
00:45:23,080 --> 00:45:25,200
Speaker 1: of like if you talk about Fitzpatrick, I think the

932
00:45:25,239 --> 00:45:29,440
Speaker 1: same thing. Knife. Yeah, you can play him on outside corner,

933
00:45:29,440 --> 00:45:31,919
Speaker 1: pla him inside nickel you could let he could play free.

934
00:45:31,960 --> 00:45:34,520
Speaker 1: No problem. People out here are the people are listening

935
00:45:34,520 --> 00:45:36,640
Speaker 1: to us are struggling bad because now they're listening to

936
00:45:36,719 --> 00:45:39,440
Speaker 1: to talk about Byron Jones. Look, I might move him

937
00:45:39,480 --> 00:45:41,040
Speaker 1: to the corner. They might move and keep in say

938
00:45:41,080 --> 00:45:43,320
Speaker 1: a good points. And I guess that people are tired

939
00:45:43,360 --> 00:45:46,560
Speaker 1: of the hybrid player. Yeah I shouldn't say the hybrid player. No,

940
00:45:46,600 --> 00:45:49,399
Speaker 1: they're like play put a guy to position in playing well,

941
00:45:49,640 --> 00:45:52,880
Speaker 1: not especially here. You did a better job of clarifying that,

942
00:45:52,920 --> 00:45:55,560
Speaker 1: because what I like is there just is there a safety.

943
00:45:55,719 --> 00:45:57,839
Speaker 1: I'm not talking about a guy who can do, but like,

944
00:45:57,960 --> 00:46:00,360
Speaker 1: is there just a safety that you feel good about

945
00:46:00,840 --> 00:46:03,759
Speaker 1: other than maybe Derwin James, which honestly, I don't think

946
00:46:03,800 --> 00:46:08,200
Speaker 1: that's gonna be real non Harrison Alabama anywhere really well,

947
00:46:08,320 --> 00:46:11,319
Speaker 1: or you would draft Harrison at nineteen No no, no,

948
00:46:11,320 --> 00:46:14,080
Speaker 1: I said, you said safety feel good about you? Okay,

949
00:46:14,120 --> 00:46:16,600
Speaker 1: all right, okay, So after Derwin James, who's your top

950
00:46:16,680 --> 00:46:20,080
Speaker 1: strong safety's at Harrison? Yeah? It is? It is. I

951
00:46:20,160 --> 00:46:23,640
Speaker 1: like Harrison and I like um Marcus Allen from Allen.

952
00:46:23,680 --> 00:46:26,520
Speaker 1: I think both those guys are downhill. They're gonna they're

953
00:46:26,600 --> 00:46:30,160
Speaker 1: strong tacklers. Bates from not strong Sade, but Bates from

954
00:46:31,560 --> 00:46:34,760
Speaker 1: they go on the free side, bates From from Wake

955
00:46:34,800 --> 00:46:37,520
Speaker 1: Forest and then but I like on the strong side too.

956
00:46:37,600 --> 00:46:42,480
Speaker 1: The kid Kylie White White, Kylie White that Kylie fits

957
00:46:42,600 --> 00:46:45,840
Speaker 1: is the m Yeah, but yeah, I think that the

958
00:46:45,880 --> 00:46:49,719
Speaker 1: West Virginia kid. It's later again, it's not something I

959
00:46:49,760 --> 00:46:51,440
Speaker 1: would I would think about. I think a player I

960
00:46:51,480 --> 00:46:53,839
Speaker 1: like more than others is Jordan Whitehead. Yeah, the pit

961
00:46:53,960 --> 00:46:56,200
Speaker 1: free safety, a guy yeah, I have him in the

962
00:46:56,239 --> 00:46:59,399
Speaker 1: same the same scenario as White. He's a top. He's

963
00:46:59,440 --> 00:47:00,920
Speaker 1: a top as Fleet, who I think is going to

964
00:47:00,960 --> 00:47:03,520
Speaker 1: get better and better with pro coaching. So I think

965
00:47:03,520 --> 00:47:06,880
Speaker 1: the top free safety after Derwin James, who I think

966
00:47:06,920 --> 00:47:09,000
Speaker 1: Derwin James is both the free and strong is on

967
00:47:09,000 --> 00:47:12,440
Speaker 1: my board. Jordan waited. There you go. If y'all were curious,

968
00:47:12,800 --> 00:47:16,640
Speaker 1: you made me feel better about five positions, and you

969
00:47:16,920 --> 00:47:22,000
Speaker 1: made me not really feel better about four half and half. Yeah,

970
00:47:22,040 --> 00:47:24,880
Speaker 1: winning records exactly. Yeah. I don't know about the playoffs,

971
00:47:24,920 --> 00:47:28,640
Speaker 1: Jason Garrett, but yeah, winning record. All right, that's so well.

972
00:47:28,680 --> 00:47:30,680
Speaker 1: I'm gonna stick it with you though. We get about,

973
00:47:30,680 --> 00:47:34,000
Speaker 1: like I say, probably six seven minutes if we could. Yeah,

974
00:47:34,120 --> 00:47:36,080
Speaker 1: just got a couple of questions and we'll try and

975
00:47:36,120 --> 00:47:40,080
Speaker 1: not It's me Dane that usually we labors the point.

976
00:47:40,120 --> 00:47:44,960
Speaker 1: But go ahead. Okay um. This is the abbreviated Twitter

977
00:47:45,040 --> 00:47:48,960
Speaker 1: on the twenty the abbreviated uh okay um. Actually, you know,

978
00:47:49,000 --> 00:47:52,520
Speaker 1: since we didn't do quarterback, here's a question from Joel um.

979
00:47:52,800 --> 00:47:55,239
Speaker 1: Is there an is there a mid round quarterback you

980
00:47:55,320 --> 00:47:58,040
Speaker 1: feel good about in this class? And do you think

981
00:47:58,680 --> 00:48:01,160
Speaker 1: this team could or should do that? We've kind of

982
00:48:01,200 --> 00:48:04,560
Speaker 1: talked about a quarterback a little bit, but I mean

983
00:48:04,600 --> 00:48:06,960
Speaker 1: that's that's I wait till after the combine. You know,

984
00:48:07,040 --> 00:48:08,799
Speaker 1: Jeff and Katie and I to get him wrong, So

985
00:48:08,880 --> 00:48:11,319
Speaker 1: go ahead and give us some right quarter quarterback. Kyle

986
00:48:11,360 --> 00:48:13,799
Speaker 1: a Letta from Richmond, a guy that played really well

987
00:48:13,840 --> 00:48:16,440
Speaker 1: to Senior Bowls. You know, he's a guy probably in

988
00:48:16,440 --> 00:48:18,640
Speaker 1: that fifth round that you could bring in and feel

989
00:48:18,680 --> 00:48:21,759
Speaker 1: good about him if you're looking for a wild card, sixth,

990
00:48:21,760 --> 00:48:23,520
Speaker 1: seventh round that you just kind of rolled the dice.

991
00:48:23,840 --> 00:48:27,360
Speaker 1: Chase Litton from Marshall. Uh. He's kind of the East

992
00:48:27,400 --> 00:48:30,080
Speaker 1: Coast raw version of Josh Allen where you saw him

993
00:48:30,080 --> 00:48:33,040
Speaker 1: the other day when we got big, well built athletes

994
00:48:33,040 --> 00:48:36,040
Speaker 1: and he moves well, he's got a big arm, and

995
00:48:36,200 --> 00:48:39,920
Speaker 1: the flashes, the highlights, they make you feel good about him.

996
00:48:39,960 --> 00:48:41,640
Speaker 1: But he has no idea what he's doing out there.

997
00:48:41,680 --> 00:48:44,360
Speaker 1: I mean, he needs built from the ground up. So

998
00:48:44,440 --> 00:48:47,560
Speaker 1: he's purely a developmental prospect, a guy that you just

999
00:48:47,640 --> 00:48:49,600
Speaker 1: roll the dice on later in the draft. Sounds like

1000
00:48:49,600 --> 00:48:53,879
Speaker 1: a job for Kellen Moore. Um by the way, Oh nice,

1001
00:48:54,160 --> 00:48:56,680
Speaker 1: Uh okay, Actually y'all were talking about this. Y'all were

1002
00:48:56,680 --> 00:48:58,640
Speaker 1: talking about this a little bit before the show started.

1003
00:48:58,760 --> 00:49:02,080
Speaker 1: Um Den's wants to know, who's a guy that you

1004
00:49:02,200 --> 00:49:05,920
Speaker 1: didn't like but you're having a change of heart. Who

1005
00:49:06,000 --> 00:49:09,840
Speaker 1: did I say, Pettis? Oh yeah, Pettis. Yeah. You go

1006
00:49:09,920 --> 00:49:13,440
Speaker 1: back and this is a long process, and sometimes you

1007
00:49:13,480 --> 00:49:15,919
Speaker 1: watch the tape and or you see him live and

1008
00:49:16,000 --> 00:49:18,080
Speaker 1: you actually helped you there a little bit. Well, you

1009
00:49:18,080 --> 00:49:21,520
Speaker 1: get an initial perspective on the player, uh, and that

1010
00:49:21,840 --> 00:49:25,600
Speaker 1: stays with you. And maybe you're just watching the right

1011
00:49:25,680 --> 00:49:28,600
Speaker 1: tape or in right tape and you know you it's

1012
00:49:28,800 --> 00:49:31,240
Speaker 1: it's hard to not to do this without getting opinions

1013
00:49:31,239 --> 00:49:33,800
Speaker 1: from other people. Sure, it's it can be valuable. I

1014
00:49:33,800 --> 00:49:36,800
Speaker 1: mean people you trust when broadness you tell me to

1015
00:49:37,280 --> 00:49:39,440
Speaker 1: you know you love player? Yeah, same with you. A

1016
00:49:39,480 --> 00:49:41,080
Speaker 1: lot of times. I'm gonna go back and watch more.

1017
00:49:41,160 --> 00:49:43,600
Speaker 1: See Okay, did I get something right? Maybe he just

1018
00:49:43,719 --> 00:49:45,239
Speaker 1: you know, likes him better than I do, and I

1019
00:49:45,440 --> 00:49:47,160
Speaker 1: Dante Pettis is one of those players, went back and

1020
00:49:47,280 --> 00:49:49,680
Speaker 1: watch more of him. He's a really good player. Um

1021
00:49:50,120 --> 00:49:52,280
Speaker 1: I like him a lot, and we talked about him earlier.

1022
00:49:52,760 --> 00:49:55,239
Speaker 1: I bumped them up a little bit based on my

1023
00:49:55,320 --> 00:49:58,400
Speaker 1: initial perspective of him. So did you have any of

1024
00:49:58,400 --> 00:50:00,600
Speaker 1: those guys that round Notre Dame. Yeah, I know. I

1025
00:50:00,600 --> 00:50:02,760
Speaker 1: gotten a discussion with you last year. You're right about

1026
00:50:02,760 --> 00:50:08,799
Speaker 1: the player equanimous Nimius Brown, Saint Brown, Saint Brown. Yes,

1027
00:50:09,080 --> 00:50:15,200
Speaker 1: there you go. Um here's the one from Daniel. Initially

1028
00:50:15,239 --> 00:50:18,600
Speaker 1: more surprising to you this Cowboys team taking a guard

1029
00:50:18,640 --> 00:50:22,319
Speaker 1: at nineteen or the Frederick pick at thirty one, four

1030
00:50:22,400 --> 00:50:24,560
Speaker 1: or five years ago, whatever that was. I was. I

1031
00:50:24,600 --> 00:50:28,640
Speaker 1: had a third round grade on Frederick. Yeah, itself positively floored. Yeah.

1032
00:50:28,719 --> 00:50:31,520
Speaker 1: See which I love doing this show because I think

1033
00:50:31,560 --> 00:50:34,440
Speaker 1: anybody that cares about the draft is mentally prepared for

1034
00:50:34,600 --> 00:50:37,200
Speaker 1: the prospect of drafting a guard in the first round. Yep.

1035
00:50:37,320 --> 00:50:39,680
Speaker 1: I don't think anybody was expecting a center to be

1036
00:50:39,719 --> 00:50:41,680
Speaker 1: the pick in the first round. What happened alone, what

1037
00:50:41,760 --> 00:50:45,319
Speaker 1: happened looked like could have been sheer disaster. Bail You

1038
00:50:45,400 --> 00:50:47,960
Speaker 1: bail and you don't get a second round pick is deflating.

1039
00:50:48,080 --> 00:50:50,200
Speaker 1: And you bail and you don't get a player that

1040
00:50:50,239 --> 00:50:52,279
Speaker 1: you thought was a second round player and got a

1041
00:50:52,320 --> 00:50:54,799
Speaker 1: cent and you got a center. Yeah that was. That

1042
00:50:54,920 --> 00:50:57,200
Speaker 1: was one of those days. And I remember going through

1043
00:50:57,239 --> 00:51:00,440
Speaker 1: it and lo and behold, Brian brought us raising my

1044
00:51:00,480 --> 00:51:03,440
Speaker 1: hand very wrong about Travis Frederick damn near everybody was

1045
00:51:03,840 --> 00:51:06,759
Speaker 1: um uncle Jerry. I might be putting y'all on the

1046
00:51:06,760 --> 00:51:10,880
Speaker 1: spot here, sorry, but I think it's interesting just who's

1047
00:51:10,920 --> 00:51:15,600
Speaker 1: a player offense defense who fits the Cowboys the best,

1048
00:51:15,760 --> 00:51:19,960
Speaker 1: regardless of need, regardless of whether or not they actually

1049
00:51:20,000 --> 00:51:22,680
Speaker 1: need that player. They're just a guy that's like, oh yeah,

1050
00:51:22,719 --> 00:51:25,239
Speaker 1: he would kill in this in this scheme. I think

1051
00:51:25,239 --> 00:51:29,719
Speaker 1: it's Calvin Ridley again that hurts hurts, Yeah, you know

1052
00:51:29,920 --> 00:51:33,080
Speaker 1: he's how about he's the Z receiver. He makes Death better,

1053
00:51:33,120 --> 00:51:35,800
Speaker 1: he makes Ze better, he makes Dac better. He his impact,

1054
00:51:35,880 --> 00:51:38,719
Speaker 1: the ripple effect on the rest of the offense. That's

1055
00:51:38,760 --> 00:51:41,840
Speaker 1: to me why he would uh just be a perfect

1056
00:51:41,880 --> 00:51:46,200
Speaker 1: fit for what they do. How about James? It's safety Derwin? Yeah, James,

1057
00:51:46,200 --> 00:51:48,160
Speaker 1: mean you don't think maybe that safety is a need?

1058
00:51:48,239 --> 00:51:50,200
Speaker 1: It depends on what you do with Byron Jones. I

1059
00:51:50,239 --> 00:51:53,080
Speaker 1: think it is. You think it's a need? Yeah, okay,

1060
00:51:53,400 --> 00:51:56,640
Speaker 1: does it? Would you expect what's realistic expectations out of Derwin?

1061
00:51:56,760 --> 00:52:00,120
Speaker 1: James is a rookie, hey, because I think we were

1062
00:52:00,320 --> 00:52:03,160
Speaker 1: he's he's a potential pick. I mean, you're drafting him

1063
00:52:03,160 --> 00:52:04,680
Speaker 1: for who he's going to be two years from now.

1064
00:52:04,960 --> 00:52:07,560
Speaker 1: But as a rookie, what a realistic expectation. I think

1065
00:52:07,560 --> 00:52:09,560
Speaker 1: he could be an impact player as a rookie. Yeah,

1066
00:52:09,560 --> 00:52:11,680
Speaker 1: I really do. I think I think you know, and

1067
00:52:12,040 --> 00:52:15,520
Speaker 1: we we saw what with what Ramsey and those guys,

1068
00:52:15,520 --> 00:52:18,200
Speaker 1: I mean the Florida State kids. Usually those Florida State

1069
00:52:18,280 --> 00:52:21,600
Speaker 1: secondary guys, you can count on them. I'm okay with him,

1070
00:52:22,160 --> 00:52:24,680
Speaker 1: And I didn't want to like him initially. Yeah, and

1071
00:52:24,719 --> 00:52:26,760
Speaker 1: I was like, you know, here's another one of those guys.

1072
00:52:26,800 --> 00:52:29,680
Speaker 1: You have to what's he what's he play? You watch him?

1073
00:52:29,719 --> 00:52:31,799
Speaker 1: He makes plays? Oh, he'd be a great He's got

1074
00:52:31,840 --> 00:52:35,040
Speaker 1: an attitude. Yeah, I'm a fan of I know. We

1075
00:52:35,080 --> 00:52:37,080
Speaker 1: got a question on Twitter earlier someone comparing him to

1076
00:52:37,160 --> 00:52:40,719
Speaker 1: Roy Williams and kind of worried about he's another Roy Williams's.

1077
00:52:41,200 --> 00:52:44,480
Speaker 1: Roy Williams was a good straight line athlete. Derwin James

1078
00:52:44,600 --> 00:52:46,959
Speaker 1: is a phenomenal is an athlete. He just cover Wait

1079
00:52:47,040 --> 00:52:49,560
Speaker 1: do you see a move his jumps? I mean he's

1080
00:52:49,560 --> 00:52:52,839
Speaker 1: gonna test way better than we will be talking about

1081
00:52:52,960 --> 00:52:55,640
Speaker 1: him one day there at the Combine, trust me. Oh yeah,

1082
00:52:55,840 --> 00:52:58,160
Speaker 1: uh one more real which this? Yeah, we got about

1083
00:52:58,160 --> 00:53:01,200
Speaker 1: another minute from offensive line. Same thing, But Caleb brings

1084
00:53:01,280 --> 00:53:03,040
Speaker 1: up a good point. I know this is the draft show,

1085
00:53:03,080 --> 00:53:06,120
Speaker 1: but linebacker you've just told us is not a deep

1086
00:53:06,200 --> 00:53:08,960
Speaker 1: position in the draft. Yeah, get some questions there. It's

1087
00:53:09,000 --> 00:53:10,960
Speaker 1: another spot where I think it would be smart to

1088
00:53:11,560 --> 00:53:14,160
Speaker 1: pick up a free agent. I know Caleb Caleb mentioned

1089
00:53:14,160 --> 00:53:16,120
Speaker 1: Derek Johnson. You know, he's going to be released by

1090
00:53:16,160 --> 00:53:18,040
Speaker 1: the Chiefs. He's a high profile name of I mean,

1091
00:53:18,080 --> 00:53:21,120
Speaker 1: he's University of Texas. He's a dinosaur by NFL standards,

1092
00:53:21,320 --> 00:53:24,080
Speaker 1: But that is still I mean, if the money's right,

1093
00:53:24,160 --> 00:53:27,200
Speaker 1: that's another spot where that's what the Cowboys love to do.

1094
00:53:27,400 --> 00:53:29,560
Speaker 1: You don't want to leave yourself with a hole where

1095
00:53:29,600 --> 00:53:31,840
Speaker 1: you need to draft a guy. Yeah, they do it.

1096
00:53:31,880 --> 00:53:34,600
Speaker 1: They've done a good job. Well they put it this way,

1097
00:53:34,640 --> 00:53:37,239
Speaker 1: protecting themselves. Yeah. Remember, I mean we would look at

1098
00:53:37,280 --> 00:53:39,480
Speaker 1: the you know what they did at running back before

1099
00:53:39,480 --> 00:53:43,120
Speaker 1: they drafted Zeke. Yeah, I mean exactly. That's that's kind

1100
00:53:43,120 --> 00:53:45,799
Speaker 1: of what they're m which I wonder, like, you know,

1101
00:53:46,040 --> 00:53:49,359
Speaker 1: everybody has their doubts about Lee and Jalen being able

1102
00:53:49,400 --> 00:53:51,839
Speaker 1: to stay healthy, and I'm just curious to see if

1103
00:53:51,880 --> 00:53:55,719
Speaker 1: they they're they're eternal optimists. So do they see it

1104
00:53:55,800 --> 00:53:57,719
Speaker 1: as the dire need that I do. I don't know.

1105
00:53:58,080 --> 00:54:00,759
Speaker 1: Will we can ask those questions? Got that coming up?

1106
00:54:00,800 --> 00:54:04,080
Speaker 1: All right, Thank you guys, appreciate all your hard work.

1107
00:54:04,160 --> 00:54:06,080
Speaker 1: Thank you Bronis. Let's go watch some more tape do

1108
00:54:06,160 --> 00:54:09,319
Speaker 1: it draft. She will be back Monday to AM, so

1109
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Speaker 1: stay tuned