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Speaker 1: I sat down with Zach Williams. He was working at

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Speaker 3: Let's start it off with the Bobbycast.

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Speaker 4: Looking for You? Is that that song for me? That's

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Speaker 4: like it just kind of says it. It's it's you

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Speaker 4: know it. It tells the story of the road that

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Speaker 4: I've been on for so many years and in my

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Speaker 4: past and what I've gone through, and you know, I

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Speaker 4: grew up I kind of said it well ago. You know,

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Speaker 4: I grew up every night playing music on stages when

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Speaker 4: I was in the band, smoky bars and nightclubs, and

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Speaker 4: it was great for two or three hours while you're

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Speaker 4: on stage, and then you'd step off, you'd be empty,

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Speaker 4: and you know, drugs, alcohol, relationships, chasing fortune, fame, It

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Speaker 4: was all that, like, what can make that better?

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Speaker 5: What can make me feel better?

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Speaker 4: And and it did for a season, you know, it

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Speaker 4: was like and then that goes away.

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Speaker 5: And my dad, when I.

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Speaker 4: Was working for him on the construction site, we would

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Speaker 4: sit down on these job sites and he would it'd

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Speaker 4: always tell me. He would say, hey, I don't I

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Speaker 4: don't have an answer for you other than Jesus, like

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Speaker 4: you need to get your life together. And I didn't

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Speaker 4: want to hear it at the time, but I knew

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Speaker 4: he was telling the truth. And I used to hear

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Speaker 4: this saying as a kid, it's the first place you

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Speaker 4: find something is always the last place you look for it.

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Speaker 4: And I was like, I've tried everything else, but Jesus

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Speaker 4: might as well give it a shot. And it was

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Speaker 4: like when I got in that place in my life

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Speaker 4: and I you know, I was like, God, can you.

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Speaker 5: Help me out?

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Speaker 4: He was there and I realized all my life I've

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Speaker 4: been looking for him, like all those things that I've

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Speaker 4: been trying to find to feel that hole that was

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Speaker 4: actually in search of him.

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Speaker 5: And so yeah, when I played that song for Dolly, she.

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Speaker 3: Was like I was going there now, Yeah, dude, she was.

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Speaker 4: We were in Dollywood working on her Christmas Christmas thing,

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Speaker 4: and she asked me what I was working on, and

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Speaker 4: I told her that I told her this record and

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Speaker 4: I said, I actually got the title from it, from

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Speaker 4: this song called looking for You.

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Speaker 5: I said, there's a lyric that.

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Speaker 4: Says, down one hundred highways of empty pursuit and a

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Speaker 4: thousand foolish things I went through.

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Speaker 5: Didn't know it back then, but now I do.

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Speaker 4: I was looking for You and she's like playing the song,

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Speaker 4: and so I play it for and she's, I mean.

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Speaker 3: Is there a little bit of pressure again?

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Speaker 2: You know you're good?

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Speaker 3: There was, but it's Dolly.

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Speaker 5: It was Dollie, but she was.

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Speaker 4: Dolly has a way of like making you feel like

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Speaker 4: you're the only person in the room. And she she

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Speaker 4: is so down to earth and so humble and just

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Speaker 4: so so much fun. She's like the I've told people,

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Speaker 4: she's like the the fun ant at Christmas that everybody

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Speaker 4: wants to see and hang out with.

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Speaker 5: You know, It's like.

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Speaker 3: She's very warm and you always feel a valued Yeah.

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Speaker 4: And just to even make it even better, that day,

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Speaker 4: while all this was going on, we were I was

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Speaker 4: on the Keto die. A couple of her guys on

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Speaker 4: you know what we do. She was like, it's really good.

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Speaker 4: She's like they got these poor ground here at dolly Wood.

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Speaker 4: She was like, and I make this blue cheese dip

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Speaker 4: somebody out to get all this stuff and we're sitting

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Speaker 4: And so I played the song and she's like coming along.

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Speaker 5: Harmony parts and I was like, oh, that's really cool.

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Speaker 4: And then as the song's finished, and she's like wiping

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Speaker 5: She said why didn't you ask me to sing on

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Speaker 4: And I was like, I didn't know if you'd want to,

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Speaker 4: and she was like, well, I thought we did pretty

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Speaker 5: And I was like, you're right. And I still thought

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Speaker 5: she was joking.

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Speaker 4: And so a year later, we were trying to decide

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Speaker 4: last single on this record, and I said, well, Dollie

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Speaker 4: did say she would sing on it, and I didn't

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Speaker 4: know if she really would.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, it's a weird thing to follow through on, like

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Speaker 1: follow up on it, because you're like, yeah, I didn't

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Speaker 3: But again it's you're in like the moment.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, and I did.

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Speaker 4: We we uh, we reached out to here on like

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Speaker 4: a Thursday Friday. She said, yeah, send it over Monday.

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Speaker 4: She sent it back and it was done with her vocals,

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Speaker 4: like over the weekend.

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Speaker 5: She did it.

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Speaker 3: What's really cool?

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Speaker 1: First of all is that and that you have and

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Speaker 1: have have had a relationship with Dollie. But secondly, you've

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Speaker 1: want a Grammy with Dolly? Yeah, like that kind of

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Speaker 1: trumps everybody. That kind of trump's stories of like doing

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Speaker 1: charity work with Dolly, Like you want to grammy?

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Speaker 3: Like that's awesome.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, it's man, I know it was.

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Speaker 3: Does the grammy have your names on it?

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Speaker 5: Yeah?

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Speaker 3: So you on your Grammy. It's like in the car

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Speaker 3: it has pretty cool man.

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Speaker 4: What was wild though, is that day, you know that

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Speaker 4: we that was nearing COVID. So the Grammys were a

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Speaker 4: lot different that year. And we had a little Grammy

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Speaker 4: party at my house and we were supposed to supposed

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Speaker 4: when the when it was going to be announced, and

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Speaker 4: it at the same time. And then they were like, no,

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Speaker 4: to announce my like noon and I was like, oh, man,

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Speaker 4: if we lose this, this party's gonna say, like, this

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Speaker 5: All these people showing up.

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Speaker 4: And when they announced it, they announced Casey Bethard's name first,

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Speaker 4: and I thought, oh, we freaking lost. And now I

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Speaker 4: was like, wait a minute. He wrote the song with me.

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Speaker 4: I was like, we won, like and it was just

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Speaker 4: like and so I call Casey, Me and Jonathan call

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Speaker 4: Casey and he's like he's in Florida on the beach

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Speaker 4: we just want to Grammy and he was like, are

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Speaker 4: you kidding me? He wasn't even watching it. I was

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Speaker 4: just like, yeah, that's that sounds a bit like him. Dang,

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Speaker 4: that's it was really.

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Speaker 3: Cool, It's really cool. It's super cool that.

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Speaker 1: Again, I would just be my neurosis would go, I

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Speaker 1: know Dolly said that, but did.

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Speaker 3: She really mean it?

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Speaker 1: That's exactly what I don't want to like bother her

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Speaker 1: because I already have a good relationship.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I was, Yeah, she's been so she's been so

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Speaker 4: sweet to us, like we we go down and rehearsing

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Speaker 4: her place down on Laverne, Like it's just she's been like, hey,

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Speaker 4: for rehearsals, Like, are you serious?

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Speaker 5: She's like yeah, wow.

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Speaker 1: She just sent So I have the these little funkos,

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Speaker 1: which I've only been introduced lately to the funko culture.

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Speaker 1: Are you familiar with the funko? I don't know what

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Speaker 1: that is, Mike, will you hand me the dollie funk

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Speaker 1: so I have? Again, I didn't know what they were.

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Speaker 5: But that as like something my kids might.

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Speaker 1: Probably athletes have them, celebrities have them. And so I

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Speaker 1: Dolly one and I sent them over to her and

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Speaker 1: she signed them for me, and then I auction them

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Speaker 1: off for a Saint Day.

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Speaker 5: Yeah.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, but they don't come signed and Dollie doesn't have

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Speaker 1: it was like, and I don't want to ask her

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Speaker 1: do it. Oh, but it's still like, I don't want

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Speaker 1: to bother her. But she's yeah, No, she's awesome. She's

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Speaker 5: I mean, that's great.

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Speaker 4: She was telling me she's got a she was telling

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Speaker 4: me she's got a Broadway musical coming out in twenty

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Speaker 4: twenty five.

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Speaker 3: I'm sure to be a massive success and it deserves

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Speaker 7: Kind good.

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Speaker 3: Levee cast up little food for yourself.

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Speaker 8: Life.

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Speaker 6: Oh it's pretty bad.

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Speaker 3: Hey, it's pretty beautiful.

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Speaker 5: Beautiful.

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Speaker 9: That for a little more exciting, said he you're kicking

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Speaker 9: with full Thing with Amy Brown.

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Speaker 10: Hey, it's Amy Brown from Four Things with Amy Brown.

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Speaker 10: And here's what we talked about this week on my podcast.

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Speaker 10: All Right, I kind of want to talk about the

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Speaker 10: Taco bell motto. Here for a second, because your great

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Speaker 10: grandma and grandpa owned Taco Bells, and then your grandpa

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Speaker 10: ended up running a lot of them, to which my

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Speaker 10: mom was then his assistant. So she worked at Taco

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Speaker 10: Bell for twenty five years. And then my ex husband's

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Speaker 10: dad also worked there.

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Speaker 11: In the office.

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Speaker 10: I mean the tangled webs we weave, because then my

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Speaker 10: dad ended up dating your great grandmother, so your grandpa

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Speaker 10: was dating you know. Yeah, it gets complicated. So see,

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Speaker 10: we really welcome everybody, everybody as everyone everyone is welcomed us.

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Speaker 10: But a Taco Bell saying was serving on both sides

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Speaker 10: of the counter. And even my mom her work email,

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Speaker 10: she would sign off like her signature on her email

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Speaker 10: was here to serve. I know, a big motto within

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Speaker 10: at least that franchise group. So Taco Bell is a

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Speaker 10: franchise in our family. That was a franchise that was

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Speaker 10: based in Austin, and they would all go to the

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Speaker 10: office every day, and that was a company that cultivated

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Speaker 10: a lot of connection and community and love and service.

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Speaker 10: And I know that your mom talks about serving both

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Speaker 10: Well, I truly am encouraged because I could be better

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Speaker 2: We're gonna do it live. We are the one, two,

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Speaker 8: What up, everybody? I am lunchbox. I know the most

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Speaker 8: Over to you, coach, And here's a clip from this

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Speaker 2: I got a message. We can just say it's an email,

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Speaker 2: This is a deeper, deeper way to think about things.

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Speaker 2: So this is the next level. A lot of our

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Speaker 2: But it's on our Facebook. Christopher Toefer. Almost this is

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Speaker 8: So we go back to the exec and be like, wow,

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Speaker 2: Because we have the exec's attention and we just said, oh,

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Speaker 6: Dude.

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Speaker 8: That is like the scene in Dumb and Dumber when

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Speaker 6: This and this? And instead we slam the door shut.

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Speaker 6: What an analogy? Can't believe this?

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Speaker 2: Floyd, First, Mary dumps us and the cops take our

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Speaker 7: Yeah, when are we ever going to catch a break.

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Speaker 14: Spoiler alert, Hi y'all, Hi guys.

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Speaker 10: We're going on a national bikini tour and we're looking

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Speaker 7: Who can grease us up before each competition.

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Speaker 2: This is us getting the email.

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Speaker 6: You are in luck.

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Speaker 3: There's a town about three miles that way. I'm sure,

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Speaker 2: Okay, Yeah, we don't know what you're talking about. The

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Speaker 15: Yeah, we're not.

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Speaker 2: Looking for an intern.

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Speaker 6: My man, get out of here. Do you realize what

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Speaker 5: Why?

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Speaker 2: Why this is me bringing up the email to you?

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Speaker 2: Now we're running after the email, Jane trying to talk.

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Speaker 6: We got it, We caught him.

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Speaker 3: You'll have to excuse my friend.

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Speaker 6: He's a little slow.

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Speaker 3: The town is back.

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Speaker 1: That way, got that time.

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Speaker 8: Can I just tell you, I still don't understand one

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Speaker 2: It was one of the best movies of our childhood.

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Speaker 8: I agree, And he was like, it is just so

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Speaker 2: Also, Am I not right on that there's a touch

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Speaker 6: Yeah?

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Speaker 2: Yeah, so that it caters to now the crime generation.

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Speaker 2: Last podcast I tagged every crime podcast crime Officionado crime

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Speaker 8: I don't understand how you don't find Dumb and Dumber funny.

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Speaker 8: That worries me. It worried me about Clay. I mean

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Speaker 8: Nope, I was doing emails then we went to that.

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Speaker 8: I love listening to this podcast. I only recently started

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Speaker 2: Who said didn't have a lot going for me?

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Speaker 6: But it's so much more.

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Speaker 8: I love lunchbox and raised stories about their kids, wives,

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Speaker 8: Well, she's just saying stories. You guys definitely should have

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Speaker 8: more segments on what you call the Big Show. I

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Speaker 8: love all those guys, but some of your stories on

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Speaker 8: here are better. Keep it up, guys. Alyssa chorus, chorus,

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Speaker 8: Thank you Alyssa.

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Speaker 6: Yeah that was good.

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Speaker 2: That's a good segment, dude. How many emails do we get?

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Speaker 2: Real talk?

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Speaker 8: We get a lot, and I should read them more

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Speaker 8: because I don't. I get behind and I just I

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Speaker 2: And all our information is at sored Loosers dot com.

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Speaker 8: Right, yeah, you can go to our website and our emails.

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Speaker 8: We are the sore Losers at gmail dot com. Because

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Speaker 8: you know, we really should talk about that more.

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Speaker 2: He paid some money for that site.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, we did. You realize I had to buy it

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Speaker 6: from someone?

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Speaker 2: you did?

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Speaker 6: I trust you?

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Speaker 2: Did you do it like the lady in the country,

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Speaker 2: the country people negotiations?

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Speaker 6: Yes, I did. And it didn't go very well?

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Speaker 2: Right, things went south.

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Speaker 5: We lost.

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Speaker 8: Well, let's just say it might have been in the case, right,

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Speaker 8: But did you talk them down?

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Speaker 6: Please just say you did?

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Speaker 5: Yeah?

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Speaker 6: Originally it was five.

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Speaker 2: K Okay, then that's impressed with what you did.

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Speaker 6: Yeah.

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Speaker 16: Hey, it's Mike d And this week on movie Mike's

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Speaker 16: Movie Podcast, my wife Kelsey joins me and we recap

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Speaker 16: all the best and worst movies we watched in the

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Speaker 16: month of May, giving you recommendations on movies you should

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Speaker 16: check out in theaters or streaming, and giving you our

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Speaker 16: picks of movies you need to avoid. I also gave

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Speaker 16: my spoiler free review on Furiosa and why it didn't

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Speaker 16: do so well at the box office For the first

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Speaker 16: time ever, I'm actually worried about the fate of movie theater.

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Speaker 16: So I get into all that, Plus a look at

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Speaker 16: the new Malwana IU trailer so be sure to check

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Speaker 16: out this entire episode. But right now, here's just a

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Speaker 16: little bit of our best and worst of May. All right,

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Speaker 16: we have a lot to get into, so let's start

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Speaker 16: off with what was the best movie you saw in May?

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Speaker 11: That's so easy. It was Babes.

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Speaker 16: I knew it was going to be Babes, hands down

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Speaker 16: your favorite movie.

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Speaker 11: I already want to see it again already. Yeah, that's

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Speaker 11: what you're doing right now.

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Speaker 16: That's rare to go see a movie and want to

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Speaker 16: see it again these days.

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Speaker 11: It made me laugh so hard, And.

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Speaker 16: As many movies as we watch, it's pretty rare we

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Speaker 16: go back and rewatch a movie. I can't remember the

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Speaker 16: last one that as soon as it hits streaming, I

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Speaker 16: wanted to go rewatch again. My best had to go

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Speaker 16: to The Fall Guy. And I think the reason that

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Speaker 16: is now looking back on it, is because I feel

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Speaker 16: like as big of a fan of just movies in

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Speaker 16: general i am. I think that's why that movie spoke

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Speaker 16: so much to me, because it also shows you the

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Speaker 16: movie making process.

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Speaker 11: You love a movie about a movie.

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Speaker 16: Yeah, it's pretty meta, and I didn't know how well

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Speaker 16: it was going to do with people who maybe didn't

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Speaker 16: care so much about that because it.

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Speaker 11: Was so good.

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Speaker 17: Though, that was my runner up for Best of the

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Speaker 17: Month because it just was. I loved it because everything

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Speaker 17: about it.

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Speaker 16: Ryan Gosling plays a stunt man who gets hurt, retires

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Speaker 16: from stunt stunting, stunting stunting stunt manning, and then gets

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Speaker 16: pulled back in. So while he is doing stuntman things

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Speaker 16: in the fake movie on set, he is also doing

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Speaker 16: stunt like things in The fall Guy, so it goes

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Speaker 16: kind of like two layers. He's also acting as a stuntman,

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Speaker 16: but he's also doing stunt things as the actor.

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Speaker 11: It was meta within a meta movie.

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Speaker 16: There are a lot of those moments, and I feel

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Speaker 16: like at times it almost got way too into it.

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Speaker 16: But I loved how unorthodox and different it felt than

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Speaker 16: anything I'd seen in theaters in a long time. So

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Speaker 16: that was my best of the month. What is your worst?

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Speaker 11: A movie? I should have let you go see by yourself.

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Speaker 11: It's called I Saw the TV.

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Speaker 3: I knew you were gonna do it.

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Speaker 11: It was too artsy for me. I am not high

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Speaker 11: brown comes to movies.

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Speaker 17: The only thing I would say I'm ever maybe highbrow

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Speaker 17: about his books, and I'll even read like popular books.

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Speaker 11: Like I'm not a book.

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Speaker 17: Snob, but like I enjoy deeper books than I do

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Speaker 17: deeper movies.

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Speaker 11: I was so bored. I was so freakin' bored.

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Speaker 16: I will say I didn't love I Saw the TV Glow,

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Speaker 16: but I also didn't hate it as much as you did.

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Speaker 16: I really enjoyed the vibe of I Saw the TV Glow.

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Speaker 16: So what it's about is this kid named Owen and

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Speaker 16: him and a friend get infatuated with this late night

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Speaker 16: show that is kind of reminiscent of what you would

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Speaker 16: see on Nickelodeon in the early nineties, kind of like

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Speaker 16: the show.

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Speaker 6: Are You Afraid of the Dark?

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Speaker 16: Is what this show is in the movie, it's called

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Speaker 16: the pink Opake, and it's them becoming infatuated with this

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Speaker 16: show and then not being able to tell reality from

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Speaker 16: the show, and that is generally what the movie is about.

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Speaker 16: I will say the trailer was a little bit misleading

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Speaker 16: because I thought it was going to have a little

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Speaker 16: bit more of a traditional story structure of here's this

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Speaker 16: story with these two characters find this weird show, and

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Speaker 16: then they have to go on some adventure. There was

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Speaker 16: really no adventure in the movie. The storytelling was really abstract,

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Speaker 16: which even for me that I loved the vibe of it,

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Speaker 16: that nineties retro vibe. The soundtrack soundtrack is great. Oh,

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Speaker 16: I've been listening to it NonStop. Literally, it is my

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Speaker 16: most played thing for the last week and a half

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Speaker 16: because I loved it so much and even for a

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Speaker 16: movie to make me want to go seek out its soundtrack,

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Speaker 16: I feel is really powerful.

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Speaker 17: Willy Wonka made you seek out the soundtrack Willy Wonka.

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Speaker 16: I also listened to the Asteroid City soundtrack.

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Speaker 11: We listened to Willy Wonka for quite a while.

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Speaker 6: That was maybe a week. It was probably a week.

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Speaker 16: Cashtroid City I listened to that probably for a week.

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Speaker 16: Two Last Train, Yeah, I listened to that on a

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Speaker 16: lot too, but for like for music that would actually

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Speaker 16: go into something I would listen to on the rag.

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Speaker 17: You also wanted to see this movie because Phoebe Bridgers

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Speaker 17: wasn't it for sixty seconds?

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Speaker 6: Yeah? I thought she was gonna be bigger wrong, but she.

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Speaker 11: There's a lot of things we thought about this movie.

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Speaker 16: Music was a big part of it, because at times

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Speaker 16: this movie felt like it transformed into a music video.

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Speaker 16: There were sequences that were just really beautifully shot, a

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Speaker 16: lot of cool, fun neon visuals with a really cool

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Speaker 16: song playing over it, and it was these moments where

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Speaker 16: it didn't really feel that attached to the movie, so

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Speaker 16: I enjoyed that part of it. I think that's why

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Speaker 16: all the songs were so cemented in my head. Even

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Speaker 16: the song with Phoebe Bridges was on screen in her band,

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Speaker 16: I was like, I need to go listen to that song.

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Speaker 16: It didn't occur to me. Oh, it's probably a real song,

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Speaker 16: a part of the soundtrack. So I feel like all

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Speaker 16: of the parts of it were good, but when you

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Speaker 16: put them all together, the overall movie wasn't what I

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Speaker 16: thought it was going to be. It's like taking a

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Speaker 16: bunch of good ingredients and throwing them all together into

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Speaker 16: a dinner, but then the dinner not being good because

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Speaker 16: it's just a bunch of ingredients that don't really go

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Speaker 16: well together, which also happens to us often. Oh yeah,

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Speaker 16: that was exactly how was speaking to me right now.

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Speaker 16: Sometimes I think I want something and then I make

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Speaker 16: exactly what I wanted, and I think that's not what

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Speaker 16: I wanted.

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Speaker 6: It taste good.

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Speaker 11: I say that often.

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Speaker 17: I throw things in a bowl and I'm like, this

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Speaker 17: wasn't the vibee was going for, and that's what the

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Speaker 17: movie gave me, not the vibe I it was going for.

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Speaker 6: That's your worst.

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Speaker 16: Huh what would you rate it? Because I know what

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Speaker 16: you said right after we watched it, You're like zero

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Speaker 16: out of five.

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Speaker 6: I'm out of here? Are you still at the zero?

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Speaker 6: You can be at the zero.

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Speaker 11: I'll give it a point five for the soundtrack.

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Speaker 6: Soundtrack is good.

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Speaker 16: I recommend well, you kind of got to be into

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Speaker 16: sad indie music, which is like my jam Phoebe Bridges

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Speaker 16: on a soundtrack that's gonna be all me all day.

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Speaker 11: Yeah, I'll give it a point five for the soundtrack.

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Speaker 16: All right, we got it to a point five everybody.

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Speaker 16: She was at a zero for me. The worst movie

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Speaker 16: I saw in May, hands down, is not only the

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Speaker 16: worst movie I've seen in May, but so far probably

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Speaker 16: the worst I've seen all year maybe ever. Oh, it's

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Speaker 16: up there for being one of the worst movies of

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Speaker 16: all time. It is unfrosted with Jerry Seinfeld.

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Speaker 11: How was that a real movie? I have so many

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Speaker 11: big names.

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Speaker 16: I don't know how he thought this was funny to me.

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Speaker 16: Jerry Seinfeld hasn't been funny. I mean, I never really

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Speaker 16: found Seinfeld to be that funny. It was not my

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Speaker 16: go to show.

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Speaker 17: He also just said in an interview that he misses

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Speaker 17: toxic masculinity and the like dominant male personality.

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Speaker 11: So his really his whole terrible takes.

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Speaker 16: His whole promotional run for this movie was really weird

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Speaker 16: because he came out saying that movies were dead, They're

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Speaker 16: not relevant anymore, and he's saying this while promoting a movie.

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Speaker 16: To me, he feels like he is this authority on comedy.

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Speaker 6: I get it.

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Speaker 16: He was big in the nineties. He has a really big,

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Speaker 16: prominent stand up career. He's very influential to people. A

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Speaker 16: lot of comedians look up to him. I never found

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Speaker 16: him funny.

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Speaker 11: He did the ant movie that says a lot B movie,

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Speaker 11: the B movie.

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Speaker 16: Yeah, B movie director has opinions on what movies need

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Speaker 16: to be going forwards. Ants yea, yeah, there was a

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Speaker 16: Bugs Life, and there was Bugs.

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Speaker 17: Life, perfect movie, no notes, Untouchable, the B movie Yes, Okay.

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Speaker 6: Thank You isn't actually bad.

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Speaker 11: It isn't terrible. It's a B movie though.

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Speaker 16: Yeah, B movie's pretty bad. But Seinfeld as a whole

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Speaker 16: I've never really been that big a fan of I

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Speaker 16: know people say, oh, you don't get his comedy. He

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Speaker 16: likes pointing out the mundane, Like I just think he's

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Speaker 16: out of touch. I don't want to hear a billionaire

639
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Speaker 16: tell me what is funny.

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Speaker 17: The funniest person on Seinfeld was Julia Louis Dreyfus.

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Speaker 16: Yeah, that's the other thing about Seinfeld. He was not

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Speaker 16: the funniest part about that show.

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Speaker 11: He was not.

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Speaker 16: It was her and Kramer. Yeah, and I put Costanzo

645
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Speaker 16: at third.

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Speaker 11: It was not him.

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Speaker 16: He was the least funny thing about Seinfeld.

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Speaker 6: Carol, she's a queen of talking.

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Speaker 16: She's getting You're not afraid to fail this episode, so

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Speaker 16: just let it flow.

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Speaker 6: No one can do. We have a care lne Is

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Speaker 6: found Caroline.

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Speaker 15: Hey, y'all, it's Caroline Hobby from Get Real with Caroline Hobby,

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Speaker 15: And here is a clip from this week's episode.

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Speaker 7: One thing your dad said to you one time.

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Speaker 13: That he didn't even remember.

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Speaker 7: He didn't even remember.

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Speaker 15: He probably said it in the heat of him being

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Speaker 15: triggered trying to get you to behave in the way

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Speaker 15: he needed you to behave because you ultimately he loves you,

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Speaker 15: and he thought he needed to keep you safe by

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Speaker 15: keeping you in these boundaries that he thought you needed

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Speaker 15: to be in, which you obviously didn't. But like he's

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Speaker 15: trying to love you in the best way he knows how,

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Speaker 15: but he just mess it up because it's human and

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Speaker 15: it's one thing he said that shaped your whole life.

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Speaker 15: Let's talk about that story, because it's just like so

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Speaker 15: many of us can relate to this and giving your

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Speaker 15: dad so much grace.

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Speaker 13: Which I do, you know, and both of us are

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Speaker 13: crying speaking this.

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Speaker 7: It's apparent child relationship is so difficult.

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Speaker 13: It's so difficult. I think, Yeah, I think what you

674
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Speaker 13: just said. I'm going to go back and listen to

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Speaker 13: this podcast and have my dad hear what you just said. Actually,

676
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Speaker 13: because it's so powerful and it's so healing to acknowledge

677
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Speaker 13: our parents for being human and at the same time,

678
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Speaker 13: you know, owning that what happened to us was real, right,

679
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Speaker 13: And so my dad and so I had my dad

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Speaker 13: read this chapter a year ago because I had finished

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Speaker 13: the book and I knew he needed to read it

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Speaker 13: well in advance.

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Speaker 7: Oh yeah, oh yeah, that's a big one.

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Speaker 13: And we didn't talk for two months. He was very

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Speaker 13: upset by it.

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Speaker 7: It was a big one.

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Speaker 13: It's a big one. Yeah, and he wanted he was

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Speaker 13: the one that wanted to talk to me, actually, but

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Speaker 13: I had held a boundary and just kind of got

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Speaker 13: a little messy, as parent child relationships do, even in

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Speaker 13: your forties.

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Speaker 7: Well in your forties is when you started to have

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Speaker 7: the real.

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Speaker 13: Reckoning, correct, And that's what I'm amen.

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Speaker 15: It's a transition from you're not the kid anymore. You've

696
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Speaker 15: done your work, yes, and maybe you've even healed some

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Speaker 15: beyond what your dad was capable of because you have

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Speaker 15: new resources.

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Speaker 13: Well that's exactly what had happened. There was a reckoning.

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Speaker 13: So we met for breakfast after not talking for a while,

701
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Speaker 13: and I looking back on that moment, I know that

702
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Speaker 13: I wrote this book like my higher self, like I said,

703
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Speaker 13: wrote this book for many reasons. I wrote this book

704
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Speaker 13: to heal my lineage with my dad. You know, he

705
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Speaker 13: was so shocked and hurt that.

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Speaker 7: You have no idea that you felt this way. No,

707
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Speaker 7: because he was in survival.

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Speaker 15: He wasn't survival think about Marguerite honestly bringing it back

709
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Speaker 15: like that's his deep lineage. Yeah, and that's his survival.

710
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Speaker 15: He probably didn't like Holocaust survivors or.

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Speaker 13: His parents, his parents. Yeah, most of my family, extended

712
00:31:58,680 --> 00:32:02,920
Speaker 13: family died in the Holocaust. My grandfather, his dad, my grandfather.

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Speaker 7: He cave to you.

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Speaker 13: Yeah, he my great grandfather did.

715
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Speaker 7: And that's your dad's grandfather.

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Speaker 15: Yeah, my dad's craved you and spoke messages over you,

717
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Speaker 15: which is incredible.

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Speaker 13: Yeah.

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Speaker 7: But your dad didn't have the opportunity to have this easy.

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Speaker 13: No, he didn't.

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Speaker 7: He experienced it was all hard.

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Speaker 13: His upbringing was tougher than mine, and survival dramatically harder

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Speaker 13: than mine.

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Speaker 15: It's like people were like, oh, let's find some enjoyment today.

725
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Speaker 15: Let's how can we make your day great today?

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Speaker 1: Oh?

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Speaker 7: Dad, Absolutely, it's like, how can you survive today?

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Speaker 13: He had. And it was that breakfast, that reckoning that

729
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Speaker 13: I realized, like, my okay, how do I say this?

730
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Speaker 13: My dad told me in that breakfast that when I

731
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Speaker 13: was ten years old, I pulled away from him, that

732
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Speaker 13: I got, you know, too cool for my dad. And

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Speaker 13: he never got over that.

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Speaker 7: He never he didn't know how to transition, He never.

735
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Speaker 13: Knew how to evolve, evolve. It made him sad that

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Speaker 13: I am mad that I would stop wanting to hold

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Speaker 13: his hand.

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Speaker 15: But here's the thing I've seen this so many times.

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Speaker 15: The age from nine to eleven, girls change. I've seen

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Speaker 15: it with like, yeah, a firsthand. That's when you transition

741
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Speaker 15: from the little girl into the teenager, moving on to

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Speaker 15: the woman. It's a transitional time and you become a

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Speaker 15: new person.

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Speaker 13: I know that. But my dad's wounding care girl was gone,

745
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Speaker 13: His little girl was gone, and I get that.

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Speaker 15: I look at Sunny and I think to myself all

747
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Speaker 15: the time, this is going to evaporate. Her littleness is

748
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Speaker 15: gonna leave, and like, I miss it already. Yeah, and

749
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Speaker 15: once it's gone, it's gone. You can't ever get it back. Yeah,

750
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Speaker 15: it's only memories and it's gone. It's like disappears.

751
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Speaker 13: And I don't think my dad again had the tools

752
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Speaker 13: and how to reconcile that within himself.

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Speaker 7: He was sad.

754
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Speaker 13: Oh, he was so sad, and then his sadness manifested

755
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Speaker 13: into anger.

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Speaker 7: We y'all super close when you were a little.

757
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Speaker 13: Yeah. So when I was fourteen years old, my dad

758
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Speaker 13: and I got into a big fight, and in his fury,

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Speaker 13: he told me that he was going to call me

760
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Speaker 13: Jessica zero because I was going to amount to nothing.

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Speaker 15: And he's just trying to shock you back into line. Correct,

762
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Speaker 15: that's all I was trying to do. He's just trying

763
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Speaker 15: to shock you back in to lines that he can control,

764
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Speaker 15: can keep you safe.

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Speaker 13: Correct, that's it, And that is exactly it.

766
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Speaker 7: And I see parents do that all the time.

767
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Speaker 15: That's hard to parent. And I resorted to threat sometimes.

768
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Speaker 15: I'm like, Sonny, you're not gonna get any ice cream or.

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Speaker 7: Washed iPod ever get in your life. You don't do

770
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Speaker 7: like what in the world.

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Speaker 13: So I can't relate to being a mother. I know

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Speaker 13: that that is the hardest job in the world. And

773
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Speaker 13: I said that in my book, like if you want to,

774
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Speaker 13: if you want your ego to be brought to your

775
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Speaker 13: knees to see how flawed you are to have a kid.

776
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Speaker 15: But my point, you run out of and you can't

777
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Speaker 15: get him to do what you want. You resort to

778
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Speaker 15: all these tactics, especially if you haven't worked on your

779
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Speaker 15: own wounds. Oh my god, the tactics that parents can

780
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Speaker 15: resort to are so crazy because you're you got to

781
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Speaker 15: keep your kids in line, because your things, they're going

782
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Speaker 15: to die if stray off.

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Speaker 13: And there's just trauma that forms around all of it.

784
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Speaker 7: And you say these things and you don't even realize

785
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Speaker 7: the impact your He.

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Speaker 13: Didn't even remember that that one freaking sentence drove my

787
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Speaker 13: entire life until I was forty. I am going to

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Speaker 13: prove my dad wrong.

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Speaker 7: I'm going to show him about it again. You just

790
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Speaker 7: carried it.

791
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Speaker 13: I just carried inside, and I was like, I'm going

792
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Speaker 13: to prove to all I've ever wanted to do. This

793
00:35:31,920 --> 00:35:34,520
Speaker 13: is why I mean, I've made a ton of money.

794
00:35:34,560 --> 00:35:38,040
Speaker 13: I've had a ton of success. I've had so many

795
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Speaker 13: third party validations with awards and media and book deals

796
00:35:42,440 --> 00:35:44,279
Speaker 13: and dah dah dah dah and money in the bank

797
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Speaker 13: and people telling me I'm awesome at my retreats, and

798
00:35:46,960 --> 00:35:48,279
Speaker 13: my staff loving to work for me.

799
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Speaker 7: Like even validating all I'm about.

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Speaker 13: But underneath it all, all they wanted to do is

801
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Speaker 13: make my dad proud of me. Was he ever being

802
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Speaker 13: able to, Oh, he's so proud of me. He's so

803
00:35:57,840 --> 00:35:59,960
Speaker 13: proud of me. But see, that's the thing he did.

804
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Speaker 13: I didn't know that that sentence, that moment, the way

805
00:36:04,160 --> 00:36:07,360
Speaker 13: that he raised me in his own unconscious stuff, especially

806
00:36:07,360 --> 00:36:12,800
Speaker 13: when I was a teenager, became the like under belly

807
00:36:12,960 --> 00:36:17,440
Speaker 13: hum of my entire ambition, And this whole time, my

808
00:36:17,480 --> 00:36:19,560
Speaker 13: Dad's like, my daughter's amazing, tells us all of his

809
00:36:19,560 --> 00:36:21,400
Speaker 13: friends about me. It comes to everything I do, like,

810
00:36:21,560 --> 00:36:24,080
Speaker 13: is so proud of me and has even said it.

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Speaker 13: But because I never healed it, and that's why I

812
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Speaker 13: think it open wound.

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Speaker 7: It was an open and deep open wa Yeah.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, Thanks for listening to this week's Sunday Sampler. New

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