WEBVTT - Haunt and Tell

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<v Speaker 1>Welcome to We Talk Back Podcast, the production of iHeartRadio

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<v Speaker 1>and the Black Effect Network.

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<v Speaker 2>We're just two unapologetically black women with an opinion who talks.

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<v Speaker 2>What's up y'all?

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<v Speaker 1>Thank you for tuning in for a new episode and

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<v Speaker 1>We Talked Back, a show dedicated to you, Dreamers and.

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<v Speaker 3>Chaser Bra.

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<v Speaker 1>Halloween show co host AJ Holliday, what's up.

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<v Speaker 2>Tam Bam, y'ah, it's Tam Bam. I love y'all. Happy Halloween,

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<v Speaker 2>Happy Halloween. Aj.

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<v Speaker 3>You put on the costume later it was yeah, were

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<v Speaker 3>you dressing up as.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm gonna be an ugly bitch because I'm about bad

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<v Speaker 2>bitch all year long?

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<v Speaker 1>You know, if I had planned better, I wanted to

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<v Speaker 1>do what's the ship on Game of Thrones and ship

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<v Speaker 1>the motherfuckers with the white hair the Valorians.

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<v Speaker 2>Uh yeah, isn't isn't it?

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<v Speaker 3>Aren't they?

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<v Speaker 2>The Valorians with the white Yeah? That would people would

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<v Speaker 2>have thought you was storm. They wouldn't knew if I

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<v Speaker 2>had a dragon. Though.

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<v Speaker 1>If I had a dragon, your motherfuck is better. Now

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<v Speaker 1>let me get a dragon in real life. I'mnna be

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<v Speaker 1>your car stating all over this bitch, your coddas.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm not dressing up as ship. I'm not doing nothing.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm gonna pass. I think I'm gonna like I saw

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<v Speaker 2>this tutorial how to make a three D spider on

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<v Speaker 2>your eye with an eyeliner with make up. Yeah, I'm

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<v Speaker 2>gonna do that. And I'm just gonna sit on the

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<v Speaker 2>porch with my mama. I'm gonna smoke a little weed.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm gonna get all around the house and the kids

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<v Speaker 2>gonna get on and be like, why are you a costume?

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<v Speaker 2>Smell like marijuana. I'm gonna go on the side of

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<v Speaker 2>the house. And then I would come back and sit

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<v Speaker 2>on the porch with my mama passed. I can.

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<v Speaker 1>These kids be big as hall tricky treat And I

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<v Speaker 1>guess that's how we looked because I definitely was in

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<v Speaker 1>middle school still going to get my kids.

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<v Speaker 2>Yell, yeah, I'm going to get my candy. It's not

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<v Speaker 2>the same anymore though. Like when we were kids, so

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<v Speaker 2>many people would knock on your door. It's not like

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<v Speaker 2>that now.

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<v Speaker 3>No, it's not.

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<v Speaker 2>And it's just not safe for real. You know, you

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<v Speaker 2>gotta go out with your kids.

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<v Speaker 1>You can't like we used to just be in a

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<v Speaker 1>big ass groups yep, and go.

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<v Speaker 3>Dark as hell. Latest latest hell at night.

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<v Speaker 2>Door to door, still knocking on people door for candy.

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<v Speaker 1>The park in the neighborhood I grew up in that,

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<v Speaker 1>my mom still lives in. It used to be a

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<v Speaker 1>graveyard back in the day. So we would all and.

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<v Speaker 2>It be pitch black out there.

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<v Speaker 1>We would be running through that fucking park at night

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<v Speaker 1>because it's a lot of open spaces in the back,

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<v Speaker 1>it's just trees.

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<v Speaker 4>He I don't know, Mama, I mean smoking Mama for Halloween.

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<v Speaker 2>That's right, that's yeah, take your wing off. You got

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<v Speaker 2>some nappy brains over there are real girl. You do

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<v Speaker 2>not know my life. Okay, Actually I don't have no

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<v Speaker 2>brains underneath this bitch.

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<v Speaker 1>I got my hair slicked back in a ponytail and

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<v Speaker 1>little one little ponytail.

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<v Speaker 2>Let's get into sins.

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<v Speaker 3>Okay.

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<v Speaker 2>So y'all, I know everybody's seen Derek got arrested, laud.

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<v Speaker 1>They running these young niggas, do the ringer. But do

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<v Speaker 1>you think this is the beginning of a new era

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<v Speaker 1>for hip hop?

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<v Speaker 3>In a way?

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<v Speaker 1>You got the young Thug trial that's ongoing, which I

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<v Speaker 1>think is about to be a mistrial because the state

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<v Speaker 1>just wasn't prepared to try them Okay, you got a

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<v Speaker 1>lot of people who got off you guys, some people

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<v Speaker 1>who actually took plea deals. My advice to all y'all

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<v Speaker 1>young niggas out here doing shit, always take that shit

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<v Speaker 1>to trial.

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<v Speaker 3>The more you take it the trial, we're going to kind.

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<v Speaker 1>Of like back the system up a little bit at

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<v Speaker 1>least give y'all. I guess some of y'all niggas some time.

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<v Speaker 2>I got some advice for y'all. Stop telling on y'all.

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<v Speaker 2>Motherfucker itself and the songs.

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<v Speaker 1>Like that far Yeah, I killed a nigga on Thursday fifteen.

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<v Speaker 2>It's like they're making their killing each other the half

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<v Speaker 2>content essentially.

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<v Speaker 1>That's what it is. That is what the drill music

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<v Speaker 1>is about. It's about it's about doing the things, and

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<v Speaker 1>they're rapping about it. So I think it's that era

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<v Speaker 1>is coming to an end, right, because that is like

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<v Speaker 1>the Chicago shit.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, but it's also New York ship too. That drill

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<v Speaker 2>sound is also very New York too. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>But yeah, So Dirk Is is being held on federal

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<v Speaker 1>bond excuse me, no bond.

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<v Speaker 3>He's being held by the Freds with no bond for

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<v Speaker 3>murder for hire.

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<v Speaker 2>And it's like retaliation, right.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, So I just don't understand why these guys want

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<v Speaker 1>to get out the hood.

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<v Speaker 3>Oh maybe they don't.

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<v Speaker 1>Maybe they just want a lot of money but still

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<v Speaker 1>be affiliated and associated with hoodshit. Because I'm just like,

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<v Speaker 1>you risk your life to get to this point to

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<v Speaker 1>still be doing the dumb shit that can take you

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<v Speaker 1>you back to where you came from.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, so what's his face? Okay, what's his face? What's

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<v Speaker 2>his name?

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<v Speaker 3>Because he made a statement, Oh, Kwando Rundo.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, yeah, you saw the statement that he made and

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<v Speaker 2>I hope it's well received by the two, but it's

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<v Speaker 2>probably not, but I would hope. So he basically was

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<v Speaker 2>trying to piece it out like I ain't even we

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<v Speaker 2>we did all of this to get out the hood

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<v Speaker 2>and we're still doing hood shit and like people going

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<v Speaker 2>to jail and people dying and enough is enough. But

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<v Speaker 2>you know, I mean, if if he did it, is

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<v Speaker 2>he wrong to be in jail? People? All Right? So

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<v Speaker 2>here's the thing. There's this hood code that's like, oh,

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<v Speaker 2>free my nigga whoever, Right, But if your nigga whoever

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<v Speaker 2>was really committing crimes out here, do they deserve to

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<v Speaker 2>be free? That's the question.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know, man, A lot of people need to

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<v Speaker 1>be in jail. A lot of lot of people need

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<v Speaker 1>to be yeah, and especially people who are financing younger

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<v Speaker 1>people to crash out right, So you sitting up on

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<v Speaker 1>the throne and then you're you're giving all these little

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<v Speaker 1>boys a low couple dollars to make these other boys

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<v Speaker 1>daddies cry mm hmm, I mean the other Yeah, like

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<v Speaker 1>somebody's gonna cry. Moms crying, daddy's crying there, they have children,

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<v Speaker 1>They're crying, like what we doing?

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<v Speaker 2>But the music is just ah, some of this music

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<v Speaker 2>is so dark. It's just like people are losing their humanity.

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<v Speaker 2>That's what it seems like. The music is like pushing

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<v Speaker 2>the envelope and making people lose their humanity. Some of

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<v Speaker 2>the comments you see on social media, it's like, damn,

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<v Speaker 2>you know you all are talking about real people, right,

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<v Speaker 2>These are real human lives that have been taken.

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<v Speaker 3>And why you gotta be us making this type of music.

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<v Speaker 2>Right, No other culture is making music about killing each

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<v Speaker 2>other the way death music.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, gotta be careful, man, with the tongue is a wawn.

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<v Speaker 2>It is a magic one and I think y'all don't

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<v Speaker 2>realize it. We be cursing ourselves.

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<v Speaker 3>Yep.

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<v Speaker 1>So really like this is what was supposed to happen

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<v Speaker 1>for him, like he wrote it. It was written literally

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<v Speaker 1>written and spoken.

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<v Speaker 2>Did you see the video from a million dollars worth

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<v Speaker 2>of game where I don't be knowing niggas name?

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<v Speaker 3>What's his name?

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<v Speaker 2>I follow? He He was like basically in tears talking

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<v Speaker 2>about how he had to let go of he had

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<v Speaker 2>to forgive and let go of the hurt for someone

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<v Speaker 2>murdering his loved one so he could be there for

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<v Speaker 2>their kids, so he could be there for his loved

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<v Speaker 2>one's children and still be around because if he didn't

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<v Speaker 2>let that go, he wouldn't And he was trying to

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<v Speaker 2>encourage them to not to retaliate, not to do these things.

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<v Speaker 2>And here we are, yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>Because you know, people talk so much about women and

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<v Speaker 1>how emotional we is. And I say this all the time,

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<v Speaker 1>like when men get emotional, somebody.

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<v Speaker 2>Dies, Like y'all literally run here.

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<v Speaker 1>Writing poems about each other and how you're gonna get

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<v Speaker 1>this person up out of here? Like why are you

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<v Speaker 1>so fixated on them that much? Like they're taking up

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<v Speaker 1>that much space in your mind?

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<v Speaker 5>Right?

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<v Speaker 1>I don't want to kill nobody I don't want somebody

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<v Speaker 1>up out of here that bad now.

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<v Speaker 3>Y'all molester and shit like that.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, we need to those are the type of people. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>we collectively we should be getting together. But man, this

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<v Speaker 2>hood shit, y'all banging about neighborhoods. Y'all don't own no property.

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<v Speaker 1>Y'all just runing there bringing out a property value as

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<v Speaker 1>far as I'm concerned.

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<v Speaker 3>But no, there's no.

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<v Speaker 1>No real y'all not really dying for nothing. I can

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<v Speaker 1>give y'all niggas something to die for. That's what you need.

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<v Speaker 1>Let's let's get let's get organizal cues. Yes, if you want.

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<v Speaker 3>To crash out, hit me up. If you a crash dummy,

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<v Speaker 3>email me at. We talked back EU T dot call.

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<v Speaker 2>We got a job for you, EIL. Yes, a person's email.

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<v Speaker 2>It's a yeah, like hit us up or hit me up.

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<v Speaker 2>I got a job for you. Because this ain't it.

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<v Speaker 2>What y'all doing, ain't it. There's no benefit. So Nick

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<v Speaker 2>Cannon did the Ray Daniels podcast and he said that

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<v Speaker 2>he felt insecure towards Mariah Carey. He got married. He said,

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<v Speaker 2>I got married in my twenties to the biggest star

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<v Speaker 2>in the World, The Masked Singer host forty four, Nick

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<v Speaker 2>Cannon said, calling Carry's level of fame on a different

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<v Speaker 2>stratosphere from his own. I would lay up at night

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<v Speaker 2>thinking like, is this who I am? My Mariah Carey's man?

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<v Speaker 2>Is that what my life is supposed to be? The

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<v Speaker 2>rappers doubts heightened after Carrie fifty five gave birth to

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<v Speaker 2>their now thirteen year old twins, Moroccan and Monroe in

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<v Speaker 2>two thousand and I'm carrying a purse, the diaper bag,

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<v Speaker 2>and you know, I'm standing on the corner like wait,

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<v Speaker 2>the all that Alum said of their family hierarchy at

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<v Speaker 2>the time, she's rocking. She's rocking being the alpha can

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<v Speaker 2>and continue clarifying that his ex wife deserves that role

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<v Speaker 2>in a relationship. I believe she needs a dude like that,

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<v Speaker 2>he said. I'm just not that dude. Men need to

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<v Speaker 2>be oftentimes the alpha in the relationship to not feel

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<v Speaker 2>emasculated by a woman.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, but I don't think it's a woman's job to

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<v Speaker 1>make you feel like a man like a man is just.

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<v Speaker 3>Just is right.

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<v Speaker 1>So he has to be comfortable within him his own self.

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<v Speaker 1>There's nothing I can do to make him more comfortable

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<v Speaker 1>with him. You know, so Mariah Carey just being Mariah Carey.

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<v Speaker 1>You saw who Mariah Carey was before you go.

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<v Speaker 2>Exactly before you engage that lady, you knew she was

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<v Speaker 2>a princess. And now you got the princess, and you

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<v Speaker 2>want to treat the princess like shet the princess like no, like.

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<v Speaker 3>This is what happens, this is what you're gonna get.

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<v Speaker 1>So, I mean, I think a lot of women experience

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<v Speaker 1>or have experienced men who, you know, they say they

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<v Speaker 1>want these strong women, they say they want these beautiful

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<v Speaker 1>women that get a lot of attention.

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<v Speaker 2>They say that's what they want until they actually get

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<v Speaker 2>it right. I know someone personally who's going through that.

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<v Speaker 2>Like he was dating a woman who's the daughter of

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<v Speaker 2>a very famous comedian here in the States, and he

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<v Speaker 2>they went on a date. I don't know if I

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<v Speaker 2>should even tell this story, but I keep it light.

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<v Speaker 2>They went on a date and basically someone wanted like

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<v Speaker 2>a photo with her, and he took the photo, and

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<v Speaker 2>that person it says something along the line is like,

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<v Speaker 2>oh you got that nigga train, ain't it or something?

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<v Speaker 2>But like in a joking manner, I'm assuming in a

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<v Speaker 2>joking manner, and he felt very emasculated by that and

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<v Speaker 2>just felt like he couldn't be with this person because

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<v Speaker 2>of who's basically who she was and what she had

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<v Speaker 2>going on.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, she didn't say the thing. I can see

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<v Speaker 1>why a man would get upset about that, though she

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<v Speaker 1>didn't say it. Somebody else, I guess scoping the scene

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<v Speaker 1>and came to that conclusion that he's a puppy.

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<v Speaker 3>But if that were my man, like, you can't say

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<v Speaker 3>that to him?

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<v Speaker 2>Like what girl?

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<v Speaker 1>He just taking a picture like I got him trained. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>I would take offense to that for him, like he

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<v Speaker 1>wouldn't have to say nothing. He wouldn't be made to

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<v Speaker 1>feel like he couldn't say anything either, Like I can

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<v Speaker 1>understand why a man wouldn't appreciate that somebody saying that

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<v Speaker 1>to him and then me not defending him or him.

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<v Speaker 1>Maybe he felt like he should have said something in

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<v Speaker 1>the moment and didn't.

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<v Speaker 2>No, I mean, I get it. I mean I personally

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<v Speaker 2>don't think I would have thought much of.

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<v Speaker 3>It, like a stranger saying you me and you.

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<v Speaker 2>Both know what time it is. You know, It's just

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<v Speaker 2>I guess it does lean on what he felt already right. God, yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>I think that played more of a role in it

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<v Speaker 2>than this actual statement by some random person asking for

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<v Speaker 2>a picture, Like what they talking about They don't know

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<v Speaker 2>what the dynamic of our relationship is, but do you?

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<v Speaker 2>Because this struck a nerve for a reason. You know

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<v Speaker 2>what if that person would have went on and went

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<v Speaker 2>to social media and it was like.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah I saw someone so in her puppy, Trina just

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<v Speaker 3>did it.

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<v Speaker 1>See, I mean, what's the difference then, like when we

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<v Speaker 1>talked about what Trina was saying about her husband now husband,

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<v Speaker 1>like just the way in which then she is saying

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<v Speaker 1>that though, so she said it.

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<v Speaker 2>You know, yeah, the woman he was dating didn't say

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<v Speaker 2>that to.

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<v Speaker 1>Him, right, But I think, yeah, he should have took

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<v Speaker 1>it out on her, right, She couldn't control what other

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<v Speaker 1>people was doing.

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<v Speaker 2>I you know, I told him it was I think

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<v Speaker 2>that this was an ego thing. I think it was

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<v Speaker 2>a huge ego play right there. And he was like,

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<v Speaker 2>perhaps I got.

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<v Speaker 3>Though, right, man, get the fuck about it there.

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<v Speaker 1>So, y'all, Shack reveals why he doesn't consider texting or

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<v Speaker 1>emotional affairs as cheating. It shouldn't matter what I'm doing

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<v Speaker 1>on my phone quote unquote do you agree with that?

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<v Speaker 2>The United States government apparently agrees because if you go

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<v Speaker 2>up at the nigga poe and I have permission, you

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<v Speaker 2>going to jail.

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<v Speaker 3>My yo, goddad business.

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<v Speaker 2>I disagree. Emotional affair is worse than a physical one.

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<v Speaker 2>To me, it don't there. Yeah, it don't always start there.

0:14:35.800 --> 0:14:38.560
<v Speaker 2>It starts there for women. For women, it starts there.

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<v Speaker 2>Men have physical affairs and it don't mean nothing. Here'll

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<v Speaker 2>go forty dollars, I pay you to go away. But

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<v Speaker 2>once you start communicating with a woman and having an

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<v Speaker 2>emotional connection with this woman and being vulnerable and sharing

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<v Speaker 2>how bad your day was with this bitch and why

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<v Speaker 2>you're on like your bitch at the house, wh I

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<v Speaker 2>ever catch a nigga talking about me? To the next

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<v Speaker 2>metaph fact, a nigga has I went.

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<v Speaker 1>Back in my Facebook messages to two thousand and nine

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<v Speaker 1>and I this bitch was stalking me about this nigga

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<v Speaker 1>I was fucking with at the time, and girl I

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<v Speaker 1>was rereading the message out loud in my homegirl, and

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<v Speaker 1>the girl in the message, she was like, hey, big nose,

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<v Speaker 1>that's what she said to me.

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<v Speaker 2>But that I mean he said to her that no,

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<v Speaker 2>not that.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm just saying, like that was so funny rereading that,

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<v Speaker 1>how many years later now, But no, in the messages,

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<v Speaker 1>she was saying, oh yeah, and he'd be telling me

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<v Speaker 1>how you be trying to change out he dressed. At

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<v Speaker 1>that moment, I knew he was talking shit, right because

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<v Speaker 1>this nigga was wearing cross colors and shit. And I'm

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<v Speaker 1>out here with a nice peak HOAt on, like, nigga,

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<v Speaker 1>I need a man who dresses like an adult.

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<v Speaker 2>So, yeah, I used to be some of our discussions.

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<v Speaker 2>I guess was this cross coming well fat Albert shit?

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<v Speaker 3>You know those like when Kuji kind of came back.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, like when.

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<v Speaker 1>Kuji no like the Kougie color, remember Kooji he kind

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<v Speaker 1>of came back. And this had to been like what

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<v Speaker 1>two thousand and five, something like that ioie jacket. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>Like he was wearing all that clown shit. And I'm like, man,

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<v Speaker 1>you're a grown man. Like, yeah, we in our twenties,

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<v Speaker 1>but I liked, I like how grown men dress, So

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<v Speaker 1>I just would you could do both. You know, I'm

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<v Speaker 1>not saying you gotta do like this, do this all

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<v Speaker 1>the time, but guess how he dressed now today, like

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<v Speaker 1>a grown man Okay. Yeah, so niggas just don't know

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<v Speaker 1>what's good for them and she was a hood rat. Okay,

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<v Speaker 1>I was arguing with a bitch who has six kids

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<v Speaker 1>and six baby daddies and he wasn't one of them.

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<v Speaker 2>But I also agree. I disagree, and I agree with

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<v Speaker 2>Scheck because don't go on my phone. Yeah, absolutely, But

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<v Speaker 2>I want to be so in love with my man

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<v Speaker 2>that there's nothing there for you to find, sir, There'll

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<v Speaker 2>be nothing there because I'm just so in love with

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<v Speaker 2>this woman. I hate that about me though. When I

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<v Speaker 2>love a nigga, I'll be in love with his ass.

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<v Speaker 2>Ooh wee, what another nigga gotta say to me?

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<v Speaker 3>You lying.

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<v Speaker 2>Girl?

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<v Speaker 1>Fuck you yo, I'd be in love and single, like

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know what the fuck you talking about. I

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<v Speaker 1>gotta keep the fratnizing going just a little tiny bit.

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<v Speaker 1>And I'm only saying this right now because my nigga

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<v Speaker 1>ain't home. But you gotta know that about me, and

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<v Speaker 1>I know that about him. I know if I go

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<v Speaker 1>on that nigga phone, I'm gonna se some shit. I

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<v Speaker 1>don't want to see you, so I would never my

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<v Speaker 1>homegirl showed me this weekend. Did you know that you

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<v Speaker 1>can set your iPhone on top of another iPhone and

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<v Speaker 1>they connect. So now your screen is on my phone,

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<v Speaker 1>Like I can go through your phone right quick, but

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<v Speaker 1>on my phone.

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<v Speaker 2>I didn't know it did that. Yeah, I know they connect.

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<v Speaker 2>I know they can like zap each other or some shit.

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<v Speaker 1>No not not sending like the air drop, but not

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<v Speaker 1>an air drop.

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<v Speaker 2>No share information like when you put them on top

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<v Speaker 2>of each other.

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<v Speaker 1>She put her phone on top of mind and her

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<v Speaker 1>screen was on my phone.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh bitch, I'm gonna try that, like her.

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<v Speaker 1>Screensaver, shit was on my phone, like any I don't

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<v Speaker 1>want to do that. I'm afraid to go through people shit,

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<v Speaker 1>so I will never see if a man is emotionally

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<v Speaker 1>cheating on me. I do think emotional cheating is worse

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<v Speaker 1>than actually physically cheating, because I think that's next, right,

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<v Speaker 1>depending on how strong the feelings become from just talking,

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<v Speaker 1>because talking is very intimate.

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<v Speaker 2>I think if a man is emotionally cheating on you,

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<v Speaker 2>he's probably already physically cheated. For men.

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<v Speaker 1>For women, we be talking up a storm for NASA,

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<v Speaker 1>like yeah, I'm gonna see you a lying okay. We

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<v Speaker 1>just like we just like the attention a little bit

0:18:46.720 --> 0:18:47.920
<v Speaker 1>TENSI horrid just to know.

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<v Speaker 2>We still got it. Yeah, Am I gonna actually fuck

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<v Speaker 2>on this dude? Probably not, but I like to know

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<v Speaker 2>that you want to fuck me a little bit. No,

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<v Speaker 2>that's wrong what you're talking about. So Shaq then says,

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<v Speaker 2>I'm gonna end up alone. Duh.

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<v Speaker 3>I already know.

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<v Speaker 2>It because y'all be making rules up as you go along.

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<v Speaker 1>There is no handbook on how to be the perfect

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<v Speaker 1>man or a perfect husband, and y'all be making sit

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<v Speaker 1>up without telling us. He added, I'm not physically seeing

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<v Speaker 1>somebody me the diesel, and I'm with you every day,

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<v Speaker 1>and you know my schedule. It shouldn't matter what I'm

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<v Speaker 1>doing on my phone. It's not cheating. And then you

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<v Speaker 1>can't tell me that's worse than cheating.

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<v Speaker 3>It's not.

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<v Speaker 1>I just don't understand that, he confessed. I already know

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<v Speaker 1>I'm gonna end up being alone.

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<v Speaker 2>He's speaking that over the power of the tongue. The

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<v Speaker 2>tongue is imagine why you're speaking that for your life,

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<v Speaker 2>So you're probably gonna be right.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, he's gonna wait, and he's gonna find he's gonna

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<v Speaker 1>be a hospice husband. He's gonna find a woman to

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<v Speaker 1>take care of him when he get real old dick

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<v Speaker 1>ain't working, and then now you want to you want

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<v Speaker 1>somebody to be in love with you, You want a caretaker.

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<v Speaker 1>That's a lot of men with means dom around. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>they play around, and I guess he thinks he has

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<v Speaker 1>everything right.

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<v Speaker 3>It's just like this.

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<v Speaker 1>Is why I be saying them niggas only deserve the

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<v Speaker 1>bitches they have before they have money.

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<v Speaker 3>Like Shaq, what type of niggas, Big goofy Shack.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, look the type of bitches Big goofy Shack

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<v Speaker 2>would have been getting without no money. I always think

0:20:27.400 --> 0:20:32.680
<v Speaker 2>about that joke. Bolls broke another one, broken another one,

0:20:37.800 --> 0:20:38.600
<v Speaker 2>shout out the shack.

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<v Speaker 1>We went to goofy ass. I like Shack though, shock

0:20:41.440 --> 0:20:44.760
<v Speaker 1>funny as hell. So Shaq might might get the bitches.

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<v Speaker 2>If he ain't had no money, because hopefully he'll so

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<v Speaker 2>be like funny and hell, But Shack, I don't know.

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<v Speaker 3>That's the way I get me.

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<v Speaker 2>If you can make me laugh, you could be ugly.

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<v Speaker 2>I'd be like, he's kind of look like I'm trying

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<v Speaker 2>to compare him to somebody who is fine.

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<v Speaker 3>And don't.

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<v Speaker 2>And don't look like that don't look nothing like that nigga,

0:21:06.720 --> 0:21:08.480
<v Speaker 2>but he's funny, so he's starting to look better.

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<v Speaker 3>All right, y'all.

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<v Speaker 1>So since it's Halloween, we just want to get into

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<v Speaker 1>some a little storytelling the artist storytelling and maybe tell

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<v Speaker 1>us some stories of our own.

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<v Speaker 2>Tim Yeah, let's talk about it. I found like a

0:21:21.040 --> 0:21:26.160
<v Speaker 2>guy from South Carolina who does storytelling, so we're gonna

0:21:26.200 --> 0:21:28.159
<v Speaker 2>have him on in a second. He's gonna tell a

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<v Speaker 2>story for us in just a second book. Who come back?

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<v Speaker 2>All right, guys, we're back, and it's Halloween. As we

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<v Speaker 2>said earlier, and we you know, we had to do

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<v Speaker 2>a spooky episode for Halloween, so we invited a very

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<v Speaker 2>special guest on today, Darien McLeod. He is a storyteller

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<v Speaker 2>from South Carolina, and he's gonna share about storytelling with

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<v Speaker 2>us and share some spooky stories. Welcome Darien. How you doing.

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<v Speaker 6>I'm good. Thanks for having me on, Thanks for inviting me, Thank.

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<v Speaker 2>You for coming. I know short notice, I was hunting

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<v Speaker 2>you down, I was blowing you up.

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<v Speaker 6>You were you get an ad for effort like this?

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<v Speaker 6>What is gone? But it's cool. I've been there, I

0:22:19.280 --> 0:22:21.320
<v Speaker 6>know how that goes. It's it's cool, But you definitely

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<v Speaker 6>get an ad for effort.

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<v Speaker 2>Thank you. Tell us in our audience about yourself and

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<v Speaker 2>how you got in the storytelling.

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<v Speaker 6>Well, I'm an artist based out of Columbia, South Carolina,

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<v Speaker 6>and I've been telling the stories now thirty one thirty

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<v Speaker 6>two years. And actually my official training is as a

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<v Speaker 6>visual artist. I have a degree of visual art from

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<v Speaker 6>the University of South Carolina. And I was doing what

0:22:52.000 --> 0:22:55.439
<v Speaker 6>everybody does. I was out there struggling, you know, working

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<v Speaker 6>at the local Army Navy store, which was a very

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<v Speaker 6>good gig at the time, paid no money, but the

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<v Speaker 6>people were cool. We had a good time. But I

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<v Speaker 6>needed a gig. I needed some I need some bennies,

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<v Speaker 6>I need some health benefits, you know what I mean.

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<v Speaker 6>So I we had a new library system that was

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<v Speaker 6>opening opening up here in Columbia at that time, and

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<v Speaker 6>I went and applied at the library system, applied in

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<v Speaker 6>every department because I needed a gig, and I got

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<v Speaker 6>an interview with a children's apartment, which is a whole

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<v Speaker 6>story in and of itself, which we're going to some

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<v Speaker 6>other day. I got an interview and I dugg them

0:23:37.920 --> 0:23:40.200
<v Speaker 6>and they dug me, and they said, Okay, we want

0:23:40.240 --> 0:23:42.679
<v Speaker 6>to hire you, but can you tell stories at our

0:23:42.680 --> 0:23:45.960
<v Speaker 6>big storytelling festival. They have a big storytelling festival called

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<v Speaker 6>Augusta Baker's Dozen every year, and Augusta Baker was what

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<v Speaker 6>I used to call She used to be the grand

0:23:54.040 --> 0:23:58.360
<v Speaker 6>Dam of storytelling. She was a librarian out of New

0:23:58.440 --> 0:24:02.320
<v Speaker 6>York City who had moved to Columbia, South Carolina to

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<v Speaker 6>be closer to her son, and so the library used

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<v Speaker 6>to have what still does have a festival and a

0:24:08.160 --> 0:24:11.840
<v Speaker 6>storytelling festival in her honor every year. I said, oh, yeah, no, yeah,

0:24:11.880 --> 0:24:14.119
<v Speaker 6>no problem. I had no idea what they were talking about,

0:24:15.080 --> 0:24:19.560
<v Speaker 6>but I knew I needed a gig, right, So I

0:24:19.600 --> 0:24:21.960
<v Speaker 6>got the gig and I researched it, like I started

0:24:22.000 --> 0:24:24.159
<v Speaker 6>looking at. I remember one of the first storytellers I

0:24:24.200 --> 0:24:27.000
<v Speaker 6>looked at was a woman who's passed on now, was

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<v Speaker 6>a fabulous storyteller, woman named Jackie Jackie Torrence. And I

0:24:32.960 --> 0:24:35.040
<v Speaker 6>saw what she did, and I said, oh, yo, that's

0:24:35.040 --> 0:24:38.520
<v Speaker 6>what Steve used to do. I played high school football

0:24:38.560 --> 0:24:41.560
<v Speaker 6>with this kid named Steve Wise, who was still one

0:24:41.560 --> 0:24:45.800
<v Speaker 6>of the greatest storytellers I have ever heard. He would

0:24:45.840 --> 0:24:49.119
<v Speaker 6>tell stories about Pop Worner football and make it sound

0:24:49.160 --> 0:24:52.399
<v Speaker 6>like it was Monday Night NFL. You know, he tells

0:24:52.400 --> 0:24:55.399
<v Speaker 6>these stories about seven and eight year old and you'd

0:24:55.440 --> 0:24:58.320
<v Speaker 6>just be sitting there with your mouth a gape, you know, like,

0:24:58.520 --> 0:25:00.280
<v Speaker 6>and I said, oh, yo, that's what Steve's to do,

0:25:00.560 --> 0:25:02.439
<v Speaker 6>So I can do that. I can do that. So

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<v Speaker 6>I told at the festival that's my first time telling,

0:25:08.720 --> 0:25:11.880
<v Speaker 6>and people kind of dug me. So from there, people

0:25:12.119 --> 0:25:16.360
<v Speaker 6>started asking me, Hey, would you come telling my classroom? Hey,

0:25:16.400 --> 0:25:18.280
<v Speaker 6>would you come to my school? Hey, would you come

0:25:18.280 --> 0:25:20.480
<v Speaker 6>to my library? Hey would you come to my festival?

0:25:20.480 --> 0:25:22.600
<v Speaker 6>Would you come to my church? And next thing, you know,

0:25:22.640 --> 0:25:25.159
<v Speaker 6>it's just kind of snowballed, and I was telling the

0:25:25.160 --> 0:25:30.200
<v Speaker 6>stories all over the place like memorial services and radio

0:25:30.520 --> 0:25:37.080
<v Speaker 6>and TV and the interwebs. Yeah, and it's it's it's

0:25:37.080 --> 0:25:39.080
<v Speaker 6>been really cool. It's been life changing. That led me.

0:25:39.760 --> 0:25:44.439
<v Speaker 6>I'm also an actor director. Storytelling led me to the

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<v Speaker 6>stage also as an actor and a director. It's been good.

0:25:47.440 --> 0:25:50.040
<v Speaker 6>It's been it's been a while. It's been a wild ride,

0:25:50.080 --> 0:25:53.359
<v Speaker 6>but it's been a good ride, A real cool ride.

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<v Speaker 2>All right.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, I just say, are you LeVar Burton that type

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<v Speaker 3>of character?

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<v Speaker 6>I'm good, right, But it's funny that you say that right,

0:26:03.960 --> 0:26:07.199
<v Speaker 6>because Okay, so when I first started, you know, I

0:26:07.240 --> 0:26:09.879
<v Speaker 6>was doing story times with the library, and I was

0:26:10.320 --> 0:26:12.640
<v Speaker 6>and the kids, little kids would come and they would

0:26:12.640 --> 0:26:16.080
<v Speaker 6>get confused, and they were asking me. There was a

0:26:16.200 --> 0:26:19.960
<v Speaker 6>whole generation of kids who thought I was LeVar Burton.

0:26:20.080 --> 0:26:23.160
<v Speaker 6>Was funny really And after a while I was like, no,

0:26:23.520 --> 0:26:25.320
<v Speaker 6>but LeVar needs to start seeing some of these.

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<v Speaker 3>Checks exactly down for him, exactly so the artist.

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<v Speaker 1>Storytelling is probably one of humanity's like most important arts

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<v Speaker 1>as far as I'm concerned, especially like with politics and

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<v Speaker 1>the things that are going on right now, I feel

0:26:46.160 --> 0:26:49.560
<v Speaker 1>like we like we're like in a pivotal, pivotal moment

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<v Speaker 1>in history. Tell our listeners like some of the key

0:26:55.000 --> 0:26:58.280
<v Speaker 1>elements that make storytelling so powerful?

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<v Speaker 6>What is many things? Like you brought up politics. One

0:27:02.119 --> 0:27:03.840
<v Speaker 6>of the things about politics. One of the big things

0:27:03.880 --> 0:27:07.480
<v Speaker 6>about politics. It is storytelling. It's being able to tell

0:27:07.560 --> 0:27:12.280
<v Speaker 6>your opponent or your story, being able to tell people

0:27:12.720 --> 0:27:14.959
<v Speaker 6>a story about yourself, the story about your opponent. Think

0:27:14.960 --> 0:27:19.080
<v Speaker 6>about it. The culture is held in the stories we

0:27:19.200 --> 0:27:22.320
<v Speaker 6>know about the past. We know about the present. We

0:27:22.359 --> 0:27:26.240
<v Speaker 6>could dream about the future because the stories before we

0:27:26.320 --> 0:27:30.840
<v Speaker 6>could speak, we were drawing pictures on cave walls were

0:27:30.920 --> 0:27:35.879
<v Speaker 6>pointing to the sky and grunting and gesturing and trying

0:27:35.920 --> 0:27:40.080
<v Speaker 6>to tell the next person where the good hunting grounds were.

0:27:41.840 --> 0:27:45.919
<v Speaker 6>Now we have there's so many forms of storytelling, from

0:27:46.640 --> 0:27:52.280
<v Speaker 6>journalism to film, I was about to say, to podcasting,

0:27:52.960 --> 0:27:57.760
<v Speaker 6>to theater, to dance, to art, visual art, you name it.

0:27:58.800 --> 0:28:02.320
<v Speaker 6>We're always trying to tell our story.

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<v Speaker 1>I saw in an interview that you did when you

0:28:06.200 --> 0:28:11.359
<v Speaker 1>mentioned your studies, but you also mentioned Santa Ria. So

0:28:11.560 --> 0:28:14.040
<v Speaker 1>are you and a cult practitioner.

0:28:16.000 --> 0:28:18.440
<v Speaker 6>I'm not okay, you did a little bit of homework.

0:28:19.359 --> 0:28:21.879
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I need That's the type of stuff I'm into anyway,

0:28:21.960 --> 0:28:23.520
<v Speaker 2>So that's why I was asking.

0:28:23.280 --> 0:28:26.480
<v Speaker 6>Okay, cool I have. I have a lot of friends

0:28:26.480 --> 0:28:32.800
<v Speaker 6>who are EFI and who were who practiced Sria and

0:28:33.920 --> 0:28:37.159
<v Speaker 6>know all about their research. So as a storyteller, one

0:28:37.160 --> 0:28:40.080
<v Speaker 6>of the things I think about storytellers is we're curious.

0:28:40.360 --> 0:28:43.800
<v Speaker 6>We're curious people, so we always want to know this.

0:28:43.920 --> 0:28:46.040
<v Speaker 6>And as a child it was up for me it

0:28:46.080 --> 0:28:49.400
<v Speaker 6>was Greek mythology and Norse mythology, and then when I

0:28:49.440 --> 0:28:53.200
<v Speaker 6>got older, Egyptian mythology became available to me. And then

0:28:53.240 --> 0:28:56.160
<v Speaker 6>as I got older, all of a sudden, I started

0:28:56.200 --> 0:29:00.640
<v Speaker 6>meeting people who are practicing Santria and started to meet

0:29:01.240 --> 0:29:06.760
<v Speaker 6>reading about the Risha and a little bit of Asian mythology,

0:29:07.040 --> 0:29:10.480
<v Speaker 6>so all of that kind of meat mixes together. So yeah,

0:29:10.680 --> 0:29:15.200
<v Speaker 6>like yeah, yeah, yeah those some of the stories are incredible,

0:29:16.000 --> 0:29:23.240
<v Speaker 6>you know, incredible, Like my personal favorite is Shango I love,

0:29:23.280 --> 0:29:26.320
<v Speaker 6>you know, the guy to fund that, you know. But

0:29:26.440 --> 0:29:30.680
<v Speaker 6>uh yeah, So there's every culture. Every group of people

0:29:31.120 --> 0:29:34.360
<v Speaker 6>has their stories. Every group of people no matter where

0:29:34.360 --> 0:29:38.320
<v Speaker 6>they are. You go anywhere in the world and that

0:29:38.360 --> 0:29:40.320
<v Speaker 6>group of people have their stories. In some parts of

0:29:40.360 --> 0:29:45.120
<v Speaker 6>the world, stories were currency. We could trade, we could bother.

0:29:45.560 --> 0:29:48.000
<v Speaker 6>You could feed me a meal if I can tell

0:29:48.040 --> 0:29:50.880
<v Speaker 6>you good story. You know, and I'm not speaking just

0:29:51.720 --> 0:29:56.000
<v Speaker 6>parts of Africa, Asia, the troubadours of Europe. You know,

0:29:56.480 --> 0:29:58.680
<v Speaker 6>they were really stories. And if you got caught telling

0:29:58.720 --> 0:30:00.680
<v Speaker 6>someone else's story, you can get a lot of trouble.

0:30:00.760 --> 0:30:03.240
<v Speaker 6>That can happen now. But the same thing happens now

0:30:03.240 --> 0:30:06.440
<v Speaker 6>when we go to the movies. I'm gonna we don't

0:30:06.480 --> 0:30:08.920
<v Speaker 6>think of the movies as a story, but for two

0:30:08.960 --> 0:30:13.400
<v Speaker 6>hours we sit there and we watch these actors play

0:30:13.400 --> 0:30:16.560
<v Speaker 6>out a story before our eyes. We bar, we give

0:30:16.640 --> 0:30:20.120
<v Speaker 6>them x amount of dollars fifteen twenty dollars. We sit

0:30:20.200 --> 0:30:24.920
<v Speaker 6>there and it's a big collaborative the playwright to the directors,

0:30:24.960 --> 0:30:27.000
<v Speaker 6>to the actors, but they tell us the story.

0:30:28.280 --> 0:30:31.640
<v Speaker 2>Absolutely, so we would love for you to tell us

0:30:31.680 --> 0:30:32.320
<v Speaker 2>the story.

0:30:32.520 --> 0:30:33.920
<v Speaker 3>But let me help you getting character.

0:30:33.960 --> 0:30:39.000
<v Speaker 1>Because do you remember have y'all seen when Damson Idris

0:30:39.200 --> 0:30:42.600
<v Speaker 1>he was talking, he was doing an interview talking about snowfall,

0:30:42.640 --> 0:30:45.479
<v Speaker 1>and he was saying how he had to summons the devil,

0:30:45.800 --> 0:30:49.440
<v Speaker 1>essentially like to get into character. Have you ever been

0:30:49.520 --> 0:30:51.720
<v Speaker 1>possessed by a character?

0:30:52.240 --> 0:30:54.840
<v Speaker 6>I wouldn't say I've been possessed, but I've definitely embodied.

0:30:55.960 --> 0:30:57.560
<v Speaker 6>That would be the word I would use. I think

0:30:57.600 --> 0:31:03.200
<v Speaker 6>it's probably just smantics. We're talking about the same, but yeah, embodied.

0:31:03.600 --> 0:31:06.920
<v Speaker 6>And I definitely wanted to make sure your listening audience

0:31:08.080 --> 0:31:11.920
<v Speaker 6>knew a little something about storytelling or not that that

0:31:12.040 --> 0:31:14.200
<v Speaker 6>you don't know because you know a lot, but maybe

0:31:14.400 --> 0:31:19.640
<v Speaker 6>just think a little bit about storytelling. Yeah, absolutely, So

0:31:19.680 --> 0:31:25.520
<v Speaker 6>to that point, once there was a man whoever evening

0:31:25.600 --> 0:31:30.000
<v Speaker 6>got to work, will return home, remove his coat and

0:31:30.080 --> 0:31:33.840
<v Speaker 6>take off his jacket, hang his hat, take his supper,

0:31:34.000 --> 0:31:36.680
<v Speaker 6>sit before the fire. After eating. He would take out

0:31:36.720 --> 0:31:42.160
<v Speaker 6>his pipe and slowly blows smoke rings into the flames.

0:31:42.880 --> 0:31:47.360
<v Speaker 6>He was a very very ordinary man. For you see

0:31:47.920 --> 0:31:52.400
<v Speaker 6>the extraordinary person in this story, it's the wife. For

0:31:52.480 --> 0:31:54.520
<v Speaker 6>every evening after a husband would return and she would

0:31:54.600 --> 0:31:56.440
<v Speaker 6>cook or clean, or whoever it was that she would do.

0:31:56.560 --> 0:31:58.920
<v Speaker 6>She would take her seat next to him before the fire,

0:31:59.640 --> 0:32:02.960
<v Speaker 6>and as he slowly blew his smoke rings in her

0:32:03.040 --> 0:32:08.280
<v Speaker 6>right hand, she would take a very soft cloth. Then

0:32:08.360 --> 0:32:15.760
<v Speaker 6>she began to rub her left arm and hand and slowly, slowly,

0:32:16.400 --> 0:32:18.440
<v Speaker 6>and to when even she looked up from the flames

0:32:20.040 --> 0:32:26.600
<v Speaker 6>her right arm. Her left arm was made of solid gold,

0:32:27.440 --> 0:32:30.160
<v Speaker 6>and every evening she would sit there, slowly, slowly polishing

0:32:30.160 --> 0:32:32.280
<v Speaker 6>her golden arms. And to one of the things, she

0:32:32.280 --> 0:32:34.320
<v Speaker 6>looked up in the flames, and she said to her husband,

0:32:34.320 --> 0:32:35.320
<v Speaker 6>she said.

0:32:35.640 --> 0:32:36.320
<v Speaker 2>Promise me.

0:32:37.960 --> 0:32:40.440
<v Speaker 6>I promise me that when I die, you shall buri

0:32:40.680 --> 0:32:44.440
<v Speaker 6>me with my goad. Then and a husband, he looked

0:32:44.440 --> 0:32:47.520
<v Speaker 6>at me, she said, what what are you talking about?

0:32:48.080 --> 0:32:50.200
<v Speaker 6>And she said, promise me that when I die, you

0:32:50.200 --> 0:32:53.520
<v Speaker 6>should bury me with my gold and arm. And so

0:32:53.600 --> 0:32:55.960
<v Speaker 6>he made that promise, thinking nothing of it. But the

0:32:56.040 --> 0:33:00.680
<v Speaker 6>time came where the woman died, and the night before

0:33:00.800 --> 0:33:03.400
<v Speaker 6>her funeral. The husband he's sitting in a very same

0:33:03.480 --> 0:33:05.520
<v Speaker 6>room where he made his promise, and he thought to himself,

0:33:05.520 --> 0:33:08.560
<v Speaker 6>and he thought, I can't bury let them bury her

0:33:08.560 --> 0:33:11.240
<v Speaker 6>with that golden arm. Why if I had that golden arma,

0:33:11.640 --> 0:33:17.400
<v Speaker 6>I could buy myself a new suit of clothes. No, no,

0:33:17.480 --> 0:33:19.320
<v Speaker 6>I can't let them bury her with that golden arm.

0:33:19.480 --> 0:33:22.880
<v Speaker 6>Why if I had that golden arma, I could buy

0:33:22.920 --> 0:33:27.840
<v Speaker 6>myself a new car. No, no, I can't let them

0:33:27.840 --> 0:33:29.840
<v Speaker 6>bury her with that golden arm. Why if I had

0:33:29.880 --> 0:33:33.480
<v Speaker 6>that golden arm, I could buy myself a new house.

0:33:35.000 --> 0:33:38.440
<v Speaker 6>So with that he went to the place and he

0:33:38.560 --> 0:33:44.320
<v Speaker 6>cut the golden arm off. That next night, after the funeral,

0:33:45.080 --> 0:33:50.280
<v Speaker 6>he's sitting at very same laughing, laughing proudly to himself.

0:33:55.240 --> 0:34:06.160
<v Speaker 6>I've got the golden arm. I've got the golden on.

0:34:07.680 --> 0:34:10.480
<v Speaker 6>I can buy myself a news to the clothes. I

0:34:10.520 --> 0:34:13.320
<v Speaker 6>could buy a big car. I can buy the biggest,

0:34:13.400 --> 0:34:17.919
<v Speaker 6>the newest, the bightest house in the county. I've got

0:34:18.120 --> 0:34:21.680
<v Speaker 6>the golden all. But as he stood there looking out

0:34:21.680 --> 0:34:25.719
<v Speaker 6>that window and the night skies, those same skies that

0:34:25.800 --> 0:34:32.319
<v Speaker 6>were clear began to cloud, those same winds that were

0:34:32.360 --> 0:34:40.040
<v Speaker 6>still began to blow and he thought he thought he

0:34:40.160 --> 0:34:49.480
<v Speaker 6>heard something. He thought he heard, oh, stood.

0:34:51.760 --> 0:34:57.040
<v Speaker 2>Cool, And then on.

0:34:59.120 --> 0:35:00.799
<v Speaker 6>What what was that? It's just the wind, that's how

0:35:00.840 --> 0:35:02.360
<v Speaker 6>it was, just the wind. But there it was again,

0:35:04.080 --> 0:35:17.960
<v Speaker 6>o my cold. Then so there was again he was

0:35:18.000 --> 0:35:19.680
<v Speaker 6>coming closer and closer. He ran to the front door.

0:35:19.719 --> 0:35:24.480
<v Speaker 6>He shut it, and then he locked it, but he

0:35:24.480 --> 0:35:33.040
<v Speaker 6>could still hear it coming ever closer. Oo, stood.

0:35:34.719 --> 0:35:35.560
<v Speaker 2>My go.

0:35:37.800 --> 0:35:42.719
<v Speaker 6>Then he's coming closer and closer. He began to run

0:35:42.760 --> 0:35:45.440
<v Speaker 6>through the house of someplace something side the closet. He

0:35:45.600 --> 0:35:49.640
<v Speaker 6>ran aside and he shut that door. But then he

0:35:49.640 --> 0:35:51.320
<v Speaker 6>could here on the other side of the front door.

0:35:52.480 --> 0:36:02.560
<v Speaker 6>Oohoo my go, you know. And I was in the

0:36:02.560 --> 0:36:06.040
<v Speaker 6>front room stool.

0:36:07.400 --> 0:36:08.320
<v Speaker 2>My cool.

0:36:10.600 --> 0:36:15.520
<v Speaker 6>Then he's coming closer and closer. He began to clutch

0:36:15.600 --> 0:36:20.160
<v Speaker 6>that God arm tighter and tighter to his chest. Oh

0:36:21.680 --> 0:36:42.840
<v Speaker 6>store my, Then on otool my goo, then on yo.

0:36:53.440 --> 0:36:56.200
<v Speaker 6>And with that the ghost reached out, grabbed the golden arm,

0:36:58.360 --> 0:37:00.600
<v Speaker 6>ran through the house. I've never seen it ever again.

0:37:00.680 --> 0:37:03.759
<v Speaker 6>The man dropped dead from fright and that was the

0:37:03.880 --> 0:37:06.040
<v Speaker 6>end of that.

0:37:06.480 --> 0:37:08.239
<v Speaker 1>I was waiting for him to say he would Oh,

0:37:08.239 --> 0:37:09.720
<v Speaker 1>I could buy myself a new wife.

0:37:13.880 --> 0:37:16.760
<v Speaker 2>I was waiting on old man Ariman. Ain't nobody scanning,

0:37:16.840 --> 0:37:18.240
<v Speaker 2>No motherfucker. Old man.

0:37:20.200 --> 0:37:22.919
<v Speaker 3>Took me that goddamn am you see.

0:37:23.080 --> 0:37:28.040
<v Speaker 6>Uh, that's up to y'all. That's y'all gig until the

0:37:28.480 --> 0:37:30.400
<v Speaker 6>next story. That's y'all gig.

0:37:30.719 --> 0:37:33.520
<v Speaker 2>I got one, all right, here's what I'm gonna get it.

0:37:35.560 --> 0:37:42.360
<v Speaker 2>It was a dog night the wind howl like the

0:37:42.440 --> 0:37:45.920
<v Speaker 2>band Cheese. Trump got re.

0:37:45.880 --> 0:38:06.760
<v Speaker 5>Elected, Sary store not saying nights, no stupid.

0:38:10.760 --> 0:38:11.759
<v Speaker 2>Do you have another.

0:38:13.680 --> 0:38:15.000
<v Speaker 3>Hold on? Did you make that up?

0:38:15.080 --> 0:38:15.279
<v Speaker 2>Right?

0:38:15.360 --> 0:38:16.400
<v Speaker 3>That was a made up story?

0:38:16.440 --> 0:38:19.200
<v Speaker 6>No? That story so that is an old story. That

0:38:19.280 --> 0:38:21.839
<v Speaker 6>story is over four hundred years old. This story comes

0:38:21.840 --> 0:38:24.040
<v Speaker 6>to us all the way as far as my research

0:38:24.040 --> 0:38:27.000
<v Speaker 6>can tell, all the way from England. So I tell

0:38:27.040 --> 0:38:31.000
<v Speaker 6>people all the time that story does what all stories do.

0:38:31.160 --> 0:38:33.840
<v Speaker 6>It travels through the people. That's how you get a

0:38:33.840 --> 0:38:36.600
<v Speaker 6>story over four hundred years ago to be with us

0:38:36.680 --> 0:38:39.319
<v Speaker 6>right here, right now on this podcast. It travels through

0:38:39.320 --> 0:38:41.920
<v Speaker 6>the people across the ward and travel it's all. Their

0:38:41.960 --> 0:38:45.000
<v Speaker 6>story is all over the world now, all over the

0:38:45.000 --> 0:38:47.879
<v Speaker 6>world now, but it travels through the people. So when

0:38:47.880 --> 0:38:50.040
<v Speaker 6>I was a kid, the big kids in my neighborhood

0:38:50.600 --> 0:38:53.879
<v Speaker 6>told us that story and took her to the haunted house. See,

0:38:53.880 --> 0:38:56.359
<v Speaker 6>I grew up in every neighborhood had at least one

0:38:56.400 --> 0:38:58.920
<v Speaker 6>haunted house. And it took us there and told us

0:38:58.920 --> 0:39:01.720
<v Speaker 6>the story and ran out trying to make us cry,

0:39:01.880 --> 0:39:04.239
<v Speaker 6>and you know, you know how to get down. But yeah,

0:39:04.280 --> 0:39:09.040
<v Speaker 6>so that story is well trapped, well troubled. And for

0:39:09.080 --> 0:39:11.799
<v Speaker 6>the longest I thought that story came from my neighborhood.

0:39:13.080 --> 0:39:15.600
<v Speaker 6>Oh really, yeah yeah yeah, yeah, yeah yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>I grew up in a haunted house, my mama house.

0:39:20.520 --> 0:39:23.240
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, the house my mom still lives in. That house

0:39:23.360 --> 0:39:27.760
<v Speaker 2>is haunted. I think most people have something yeah.

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<v Speaker 6>M hm, oh yeah, yeah, yeah. You guys have a deep,

0:39:32.440 --> 0:39:36.960
<v Speaker 6>deep history with haunts and hats and hags and all

0:39:37.000 --> 0:39:37.960
<v Speaker 6>that good stuff.

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<v Speaker 2>In American trauma.

0:39:41.600 --> 0:39:45.359
<v Speaker 1>I mean, that's usually the spirits that can settle the

0:39:45.400 --> 0:39:47.879
<v Speaker 1>ones who die from a lot of trauma. They still

0:39:47.920 --> 0:39:53.160
<v Speaker 1>have unfinished things, like they just died abruptly mm hmmm.

0:39:52.920 --> 0:39:53.520
<v Speaker 3>A lot of times.

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<v Speaker 6>So I take it then, you guys believe in ghosts

0:39:55.760 --> 0:39:57.359
<v Speaker 6>absolutely absolutely.

0:39:58.400 --> 0:40:06.480
<v Speaker 1>I might be a duppy, you know sometimes duppy is

0:40:06.520 --> 0:40:08.600
<v Speaker 1>like the Jamaicans called ghost duppies.

0:40:08.680 --> 0:40:10.120
<v Speaker 3>But I remember one of my my.

0:40:10.160 --> 0:40:12.680
<v Speaker 1>Ex boyfriends, his mom used to always be like you know,

0:40:12.719 --> 0:40:14.800
<v Speaker 1>don't sleep at the window open, because she would be

0:40:14.840 --> 0:40:17.520
<v Speaker 1>complaining about one of her neighbors and said that the neighbor,

0:40:17.920 --> 0:40:21.239
<v Speaker 1>this living person, was actually a hag. At night when

0:40:21.280 --> 0:40:23.480
<v Speaker 1>she goes to sleep, her spirit is leaving her body

0:40:23.520 --> 0:40:26.880
<v Speaker 1>and coming in the house. So make sure you close

0:40:26.920 --> 0:40:27.759
<v Speaker 1>the windows at night.

0:40:28.200 --> 0:40:29.239
<v Speaker 3>I believe stuff.

0:40:29.000 --> 0:40:31.239
<v Speaker 6>Like you ever heard you ever heard it? Sort of

0:40:31.320 --> 0:40:34.520
<v Speaker 6>the hag that would shed her skin, take her figurenail

0:40:34.600 --> 0:40:39.600
<v Speaker 6>and split herself wide open, and her skeleton wrapped in muscle,

0:40:39.920 --> 0:40:43.279
<v Speaker 6>would leave her skin, and then as she would go

0:40:43.320 --> 0:40:45.839
<v Speaker 6>out and do her business, she would come back and

0:40:45.880 --> 0:40:46.880
<v Speaker 6>put her skin back on.

0:40:48.719 --> 0:40:51.600
<v Speaker 1>So she just been just leaving banana shillings all over

0:40:51.600 --> 0:40:57.880
<v Speaker 1>the place. Skin shillings. No, I never heard that one.

0:40:58.680 --> 0:41:04.640
<v Speaker 2>No little plastic served. Yes, I definitely believe in in

0:41:04.840 --> 0:41:09.279
<v Speaker 2>hags and all the things absolutely because I've experienced them.

0:41:10.520 --> 0:41:14.200
<v Speaker 2>I believe in the possibility of all I've never experienced them.

0:41:14.560 --> 0:41:16.800
<v Speaker 2>I've seen like the closest thing I've ever seen to

0:41:17.680 --> 0:41:22.840
<v Speaker 2>uh maybe something supernatural or something that that's here that

0:41:22.960 --> 0:41:27.439
<v Speaker 2>we can't see, is at my grandmother's house. My great

0:41:27.480 --> 0:41:30.879
<v Speaker 2>grandmother used to sit in the rocking chair. Yeah, I've

0:41:30.880 --> 0:41:33.560
<v Speaker 2>seen this with my own eyes. I'm not lying. My

0:41:33.680 --> 0:41:37.400
<v Speaker 2>great grandmother passed away in like nineteen ninety four, and

0:41:37.760 --> 0:41:41.319
<v Speaker 2>that rocking chair would rock by itself sometimes. I don't

0:41:41.320 --> 0:41:43.359
<v Speaker 2>know how it happened, but that rock and chair would

0:41:43.360 --> 0:41:45.440
<v Speaker 2>just start rocking. That's her shit, that's not when.

0:41:47.200 --> 0:41:48.719
<v Speaker 6>Not when vibration.

0:41:50.080 --> 0:41:52.279
<v Speaker 2>I don't know what was going on. I used to

0:41:52.320 --> 0:41:55.839
<v Speaker 2>be flabbergasted, like are we saying? And then the rocking

0:41:55.920 --> 0:41:58.400
<v Speaker 2>chair would just start rocking by stuff, and my grandma

0:41:58.480 --> 0:42:02.560
<v Speaker 2>would say, Mama, wheel, okay, you can go on, you

0:42:02.600 --> 0:42:06.160
<v Speaker 2>can go home. It's okay, We're gonna be fine. And

0:42:06.280 --> 0:42:08.319
<v Speaker 2>my grandma be talking to a rocket shaer that ain't

0:42:08.320 --> 0:42:10.960
<v Speaker 2>nobody in. I wave the fuck out of Dodge. I'm like,

0:42:11.040 --> 0:42:13.120
<v Speaker 2>you know what, it's time to go outside and play,

0:42:13.160 --> 0:42:14.640
<v Speaker 2>because she gets kind of creepy in this.

0:42:16.640 --> 0:42:17.680
<v Speaker 6>Something outside.

0:42:21.320 --> 0:42:23.080
<v Speaker 2>But that's the only thing I've ever seen in my

0:42:23.280 --> 0:42:26.000
<v Speaker 2>entire life that will suggest that there are there is

0:42:26.200 --> 0:42:29.719
<v Speaker 2>life outside of what we can see. You know, yeah,

0:42:29.800 --> 0:42:30.680
<v Speaker 2>I believe.

0:42:30.440 --> 0:42:34.759
<v Speaker 6>There's a there's a world beyond this world. I don't

0:42:34.760 --> 0:42:38.200
<v Speaker 6>know what that definition is. I don't know what you know,

0:42:38.320 --> 0:42:41.799
<v Speaker 6>what exactly a ghost of ghostly spirit is? I don't

0:42:41.800 --> 0:42:46.200
<v Speaker 6>know some people, you know, they're spiritual whatever you know, Uh,

0:42:46.360 --> 0:42:55.560
<v Speaker 6>yesterday's religion is today's superstition of spiritual reality. You know.

0:42:55.680 --> 0:42:58.000
<v Speaker 6>So you don't know. But I do believe there's a

0:42:58.160 --> 0:43:03.400
<v Speaker 6>world beyond this world that we don't We can't define

0:43:03.400 --> 0:43:05.719
<v Speaker 6>worlds beyond our world. But I do believe there's a

0:43:05.800 --> 0:43:06.759
<v Speaker 6>world beyond our world.

0:43:07.360 --> 0:43:09.359
<v Speaker 2>And I believe there's more people there than it is here.

0:43:10.440 --> 0:43:13.319
<v Speaker 1>I think I think the veil between worlds are getting

0:43:13.360 --> 0:43:15.560
<v Speaker 1>thinner and thinner. And this is why some people may

0:43:15.640 --> 0:43:19.879
<v Speaker 1>have more stories nowadays, because I don't believe that energy dies.

0:43:19.960 --> 0:43:24.480
<v Speaker 2>I believe energy is forever. So sometimes your great grandma

0:43:24.760 --> 0:43:27.560
<v Speaker 2>probably feel like she at home like she is. He

0:43:27.719 --> 0:43:30.320
<v Speaker 2>just can't see her on the realm that she's in,

0:43:31.680 --> 0:43:33.600
<v Speaker 2>you know, but she's so around.

0:43:34.760 --> 0:43:37.719
<v Speaker 6>I believe something very like that. You're right. Energy transforms,

0:43:38.560 --> 0:43:44.840
<v Speaker 6>It can't be destroyed, transforms, matter becomes, energy becomes I

0:43:44.880 --> 0:43:48.680
<v Speaker 6>don't know, energy transforms, So right, what happens with the energy?

0:43:48.680 --> 0:43:52.680
<v Speaker 6>Where does it go? Does it maintain a consciousness? Does

0:43:52.719 --> 0:43:53.640
<v Speaker 6>it go other places?

0:43:53.719 --> 0:43:54.080
<v Speaker 4>Does it do?

0:43:54.400 --> 0:43:54.480
<v Speaker 2>Now?

0:43:54.560 --> 0:43:56.680
<v Speaker 6>These are things that we're telling in our storytelling. Now,

0:43:56.920 --> 0:43:59.840
<v Speaker 6>these are things The Bible is a collection of stories

0:44:00.960 --> 0:44:04.640
<v Speaker 6>you know, stories to educate the teachers things. Any any

0:44:05.239 --> 0:44:10.280
<v Speaker 6>religious text, any religious tone, is a collection of stories

0:44:10.440 --> 0:44:13.080
<v Speaker 6>to make us think about exactly what you just said.

0:44:14.920 --> 0:44:22.520
<v Speaker 6>From science fiction to comics to religion. Yeah, it's all stories.

0:44:22.920 --> 0:44:25.600
<v Speaker 6>Are you when you sit down and you go, you

0:44:25.719 --> 0:44:27.680
<v Speaker 6>call up your girlf like, girl, you can't believe what

0:44:27.760 --> 0:44:32.000
<v Speaker 6>he done? Now you're telling stories. You know, when your

0:44:32.080 --> 0:44:35.160
<v Speaker 6>kid comes home from school and tells you something funny

0:44:35.320 --> 0:44:38.200
<v Speaker 6>that happened in school, they're telling stories.

0:44:38.320 --> 0:44:38.440
<v Speaker 2>You know.

0:44:39.480 --> 0:44:42.120
<v Speaker 6>I forget the exact there was someone who did some

0:44:42.200 --> 0:44:44.839
<v Speaker 6>type of study that said there was I forget the number,

0:44:44.880 --> 0:44:47.439
<v Speaker 6>were something that number like, I think it's like eighty

0:44:47.560 --> 0:44:49.960
<v Speaker 6>two percent of the time we're talking, we're telling the story.

0:44:51.520 --> 0:44:55.400
<v Speaker 2>So yeah, and when as these niggas have them belying,

0:44:56.239 --> 0:45:00.359
<v Speaker 2>you know the rat of story tell us.

0:45:00.560 --> 0:45:03.200
<v Speaker 3>But actually they were actually not a good storytellers.

0:45:06.640 --> 0:45:09.399
<v Speaker 6>I think, I think, I think y'all talking about something.

0:45:09.520 --> 0:45:15.759
<v Speaker 6>Use a different guests on. Here, have your therapist on

0:45:16.640 --> 0:45:17.640
<v Speaker 6>to discuss that.

0:45:18.800 --> 0:45:20.439
<v Speaker 2>Do you do you have one more to share?

0:45:20.719 --> 0:45:22.160
<v Speaker 3>You have a therapist on?

0:45:22.719 --> 0:45:24.480
<v Speaker 2>You caught that we don't have any.

0:45:29.480 --> 0:45:32.080
<v Speaker 6>I've actually got to go, but I would love to

0:45:32.200 --> 0:45:34.520
<v Speaker 6>plug my company absolutely.

0:45:34.200 --> 0:45:36.880
<v Speaker 1>So y'all absolutely all are listening to the co founder

0:45:37.040 --> 0:45:40.800
<v Speaker 1>and creative director or founder, right, are you the founder

0:45:40.800 --> 0:45:43.520
<v Speaker 1>of co founder? I saw all right, co founder of

0:45:43.640 --> 0:45:46.160
<v Speaker 1>the NIA company, the NIA Theater Company.

0:45:46.400 --> 0:45:46.719
<v Speaker 6>Thank you?

0:45:46.920 --> 0:45:54.440
<v Speaker 2>Okay, can you share some of this nonprofits and initiatives?

0:45:54.560 --> 0:45:59.120
<v Speaker 6>Sorry, well, we're not a nonprofit we actually okay, got it,

0:45:59.440 --> 0:46:03.560
<v Speaker 6>but we are. We're a theater company and we do

0:46:03.800 --> 0:46:09.239
<v Speaker 6>everything from original adaptations of children's literature, which we call

0:46:09.320 --> 0:46:11.600
<v Speaker 6>our family arm my Family Show, all the way to

0:46:11.800 --> 0:46:15.480
<v Speaker 6>really cutting edge adult offerings. Either one of you know,

0:46:15.600 --> 0:46:22.960
<v Speaker 6>a show Passover by Antoine, Antoinette NWANDU No. Looked at

0:46:22.960 --> 0:46:32.360
<v Speaker 6>me like, what, well, it's it's a passover? How is passover?

0:46:32.480 --> 0:46:32.600
<v Speaker 2>Now?

0:46:32.800 --> 0:46:39.320
<v Speaker 6>I forget it's I think anyway, it's really edgy adult theater.

0:46:39.840 --> 0:46:43.040
<v Speaker 6>And we've been together for twenty six years and we've

0:46:43.040 --> 0:46:47.680
<v Speaker 6>been making theater. We theater for the people. We make theater.

0:46:49.320 --> 0:46:53.960
<v Speaker 6>We tell stories that wouldn't get told otherwise. So we

0:46:54.160 --> 0:46:58.440
<v Speaker 6>do everything top Dog Underdog. We did that when it

0:46:58.560 --> 0:47:02.560
<v Speaker 6>was a new show. I'm trying to think of Jesus

0:47:02.600 --> 0:47:08.399
<v Speaker 6>hoped a trade bunch of mccallagus from my Children's wing.

0:47:10.600 --> 0:47:11.960
<v Speaker 6>As a matter of fact, we just did a show

0:47:12.000 --> 0:47:17.120
<v Speaker 6>this morning during this during the fall. For twelve years now,

0:47:17.200 --> 0:47:20.280
<v Speaker 6>we've done a show in partnership with the South Carolina

0:47:20.320 --> 0:47:26.080
<v Speaker 6>Philharmonic and Richly School District One called The Gift That

0:47:26.280 --> 0:47:29.319
<v Speaker 6>Ran Away or is it fish or Fishes? And it's

0:47:29.360 --> 0:47:31.880
<v Speaker 6>an original piece I'm really proud of. It's the original

0:47:31.920 --> 0:47:37.440
<v Speaker 6>piece that I copy wrote. And it's a bit of science,

0:47:37.680 --> 0:47:41.680
<v Speaker 6>is a bit of zio zoology. It's a music by

0:47:41.719 --> 0:47:45.680
<v Speaker 6>Camille sang Song, the composer Camille sang Song is performed

0:47:45.719 --> 0:47:50.200
<v Speaker 6>by the South Carolina Philharmonic. And we see every second

0:47:50.280 --> 0:47:53.600
<v Speaker 6>grader and District two. That's about twenty five three thousand

0:47:53.600 --> 0:47:56.840
<v Speaker 6>and second graders over the spans of four days. And

0:47:57.160 --> 0:47:58.399
<v Speaker 6>it's cool. It's really cool.

0:47:59.120 --> 0:47:59.279
<v Speaker 2>Yeah.

0:47:59.320 --> 0:47:59.960
<v Speaker 6>It's super.

0:48:01.239 --> 0:48:03.960
<v Speaker 2>Like plug all your social media where people can actually

0:48:04.040 --> 0:48:05.280
<v Speaker 2>find you our listeners.

0:48:05.840 --> 0:48:11.200
<v Speaker 6>You can find the NEA company at purpose People dot company,

0:48:11.440 --> 0:48:17.879
<v Speaker 6>not dot com, Purpose People dot Company on Facebook. Darren

0:48:18.000 --> 0:48:25.200
<v Speaker 6>McCloud Storyteller and I think don't have a website. I

0:48:25.280 --> 0:48:29.920
<v Speaker 6>think my website is Darren mc Yeah, I think it's

0:48:30.120 --> 0:48:33.359
<v Speaker 6>I think my website is Darren McCloud storyteller dot com.

0:48:33.480 --> 0:48:40.839
<v Speaker 6>It is, you know, so like yeah, I know y'all

0:48:40.880 --> 0:48:42.480
<v Speaker 6>live and die by the social media.

0:48:42.480 --> 0:48:46.480
<v Speaker 1>If I'm like, we really don't, okay, we just we

0:48:46.600 --> 0:48:48.520
<v Speaker 1>do all little bit of research we have to do

0:48:48.600 --> 0:48:51.080
<v Speaker 1>when we have people on, but we really are not.

0:48:51.800 --> 0:48:56.640
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, well, we appreciate you coming out. I know you

0:48:56.760 --> 0:48:59.560
<v Speaker 2>gotta go, but we appreciate thank you so much.

0:49:00.880 --> 0:49:01.239
<v Speaker 3>Thank you.

0:49:06.280 --> 0:49:11.960
<v Speaker 2>Oo stole my gold and watch because somebody broke in

0:49:12.040 --> 0:49:15.279
<v Speaker 2>my motherfucker house. And so for me, listen, if y'all,

0:49:16.040 --> 0:49:18.560
<v Speaker 2>if y'all are an attorney and listen to the show,

0:49:19.840 --> 0:49:21.719
<v Speaker 2>I need y'all to DM me because I need an

0:49:21.719 --> 0:49:25.080
<v Speaker 2>attorney because what the fuckstole by? That's what we needed

0:49:25.120 --> 0:49:32.160
<v Speaker 2>to be. I was fun, though, you stupid girl.

0:49:32.360 --> 0:49:32.960
<v Speaker 3>That was fun.

0:49:33.120 --> 0:49:35.800
<v Speaker 2>But y'all that's Halloween, and I guess I don't know.

0:49:35.920 --> 0:49:41.120
<v Speaker 2>I got an actual real life scary I've experienced, so

0:49:41.360 --> 0:49:42.120
<v Speaker 2>y'all Okay.

0:49:42.520 --> 0:49:45.399
<v Speaker 3>The year was nineteen ninety nine.

0:49:48.640 --> 0:49:52.440
<v Speaker 2>Young ag was like sixteen to seventeen years old right

0:49:52.520 --> 0:49:57.000
<v Speaker 2>around with an older drug dealer. So we going into

0:49:57.080 --> 0:50:00.760
<v Speaker 2>two ky year two thousand set up the screen.

0:50:00.880 --> 0:50:02.200
<v Speaker 3>So yeah, that's the screen.

0:50:02.680 --> 0:50:05.279
<v Speaker 2>No, Lil Wayne was playing in the background all.

0:50:05.280 --> 0:50:08.680
<v Speaker 3>Right, back that up was playing. I had on a

0:50:09.719 --> 0:50:11.480
<v Speaker 3>navy blue velore.

0:50:12.600 --> 0:50:17.160
<v Speaker 1>Long body con skirt and top with a high slit

0:50:17.600 --> 0:50:18.680
<v Speaker 1>and black boots.

0:50:18.840 --> 0:50:22.839
<v Speaker 2>Okay, nigga picked me up from my daddy house.

0:50:23.040 --> 0:50:26.600
<v Speaker 3>What kind of car that nigga had? A cutless bitch?

0:50:26.800 --> 0:50:30.040
<v Speaker 1>No, wait, even it was a cutlass or a Cadillac Deville.

0:50:30.120 --> 0:50:36.920
<v Speaker 3>You remember them rooms on it?

0:50:37.200 --> 0:50:41.400
<v Speaker 2>Like, yeah, remember when I mentioned the girl telling me

0:50:41.440 --> 0:50:42.640
<v Speaker 2>how she's gonna tell my daddy.

0:50:42.640 --> 0:50:45.520
<v Speaker 3>I'm talking to this older nigga. This was the older nigga.

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<v Speaker 1>So the year was were going into two thousand, So

0:50:48.280 --> 0:50:51.000
<v Speaker 1>this is New Year's Eve nineteen ninety nine going into

0:50:51.000 --> 0:50:55.560
<v Speaker 1>the year two thousand. His dad owns a nightclub, but

0:50:55.640 --> 0:50:57.239
<v Speaker 1>he probably owns it now because I'm pretty sure his

0:50:57.360 --> 0:50:59.800
<v Speaker 1>dad probably's out of here. I don't know my daddy's alive.

0:50:59.920 --> 0:51:02.080
<v Speaker 1>I don't know anyway. I feel like his dad did

0:51:02.120 --> 0:51:04.520
<v Speaker 1>pass away though. So he owns this this spot now,

0:51:05.080 --> 0:51:08.279
<v Speaker 1>and it's at a place here in Charleston called Mosquito Beach.

0:51:08.520 --> 0:51:10.560
<v Speaker 1>It's only one way out of Mesquita Beach and one

0:51:10.600 --> 0:51:15.000
<v Speaker 1>way in. It's one road right. So we're now leaving

0:51:15.080 --> 0:51:19.160
<v Speaker 1>the club. So now it's two thousand, it's after midnight,

0:51:19.600 --> 0:51:22.800
<v Speaker 1>so we're leaving the club, and it was like a

0:51:22.880 --> 0:51:26.719
<v Speaker 1>bunch of like just uh, it's marshy land and then

0:51:26.960 --> 0:51:29.680
<v Speaker 1>the ocean is right there, so it's always like really

0:51:30.280 --> 0:51:33.040
<v Speaker 1>foggy outside in that area. And so this is winter,

0:51:33.200 --> 0:51:36.640
<v Speaker 1>so it's kind of chilly outside, so it's heavy, dense fog.

0:51:36.760 --> 0:51:42.000
<v Speaker 1>We're driving through, right, some shit like that. So we're

0:51:42.080 --> 0:51:44.440
<v Speaker 1>driving down this one street. It's a two way street,

0:51:44.480 --> 0:51:46.600
<v Speaker 1>but just one long street, and there was a car

0:51:47.040 --> 0:51:52.000
<v Speaker 1>driving real slow on one side of the street, and

0:51:52.160 --> 0:51:55.800
<v Speaker 1>then the other side it was an ambulance speeding, like

0:51:55.920 --> 0:52:02.319
<v Speaker 1>heading towards as speeding. He's driving down, he's driving. I'm

0:52:02.360 --> 0:52:05.080
<v Speaker 1>on the passenger side, and I lied to y'all, niggas

0:52:05.120 --> 0:52:09.920
<v Speaker 1>not he ran. He hit somebody, that's what it was,

0:52:10.000 --> 0:52:12.880
<v Speaker 1>an old white man in the middle of the street.

0:52:14.200 --> 0:52:17.960
<v Speaker 1>He hit this person, but the car went through them.

0:52:18.719 --> 0:52:20.840
<v Speaker 1>So I turned around immediately like to look out the

0:52:20.920 --> 0:52:25.320
<v Speaker 1>back window, and it was nothing there. So he then says,

0:52:25.400 --> 0:52:29.800
<v Speaker 1>you saw that shit too, So in my mom like

0:52:29.880 --> 0:52:32.160
<v Speaker 1>did somebody just die? And like that's the spirit and

0:52:32.200 --> 0:52:34.719
<v Speaker 1>the ambulance is going to pick them up. And this

0:52:34.880 --> 0:52:37.640
<v Speaker 1>person driving slowly was seeing the same shit we were seeing,

0:52:38.400 --> 0:52:42.640
<v Speaker 1>Like just the the thing was in the road and

0:52:42.760 --> 0:52:43.520
<v Speaker 1>we went through it.

0:52:44.040 --> 0:52:44.759
<v Speaker 3>The person.

0:52:47.040 --> 0:52:50.560
<v Speaker 2>My ghost dad, Yes, like fucking ghost dad, and.

0:52:50.600 --> 0:52:53.080
<v Speaker 1>It's happened in real life like I and I guess,

0:52:53.160 --> 0:52:56.480
<v Speaker 1>unless he cooperated, I probably would have just thought it

0:52:56.600 --> 0:52:57.680
<v Speaker 1>was just some fucking food.

0:52:58.960 --> 0:53:03.719
<v Speaker 2>Wasn't that loud that you might have been smoking? As

0:53:03.920 --> 0:53:07.040
<v Speaker 2>seventeen but I wasn't, or sixteen, however old I was.

0:53:07.120 --> 0:53:10.160
<v Speaker 2>I might be that Nigga might supposed to be in jail,

0:53:12.160 --> 0:53:13.279
<v Speaker 2>I know, because he was.

0:53:13.719 --> 0:53:15.400
<v Speaker 3>He had you on age.

0:53:17.000 --> 0:53:21.560
<v Speaker 2>He killed somebody applearly, there's a lot of crowns being

0:53:21.600 --> 0:53:22.120
<v Speaker 2>committed in it.

0:53:22.200 --> 0:53:24.839
<v Speaker 1>So that's that's one of my scary stories. And y'all,

0:53:24.960 --> 0:53:27.560
<v Speaker 1>I uh, my mom's house is for real haunted. It'd

0:53:27.600 --> 0:53:29.200
<v Speaker 1>be all type of shit going on there, Like when

0:53:29.239 --> 0:53:31.680
<v Speaker 1>I was staying with her when I first moved back

0:53:31.719 --> 0:53:36.879
<v Speaker 1>to Charleston the first month or so, it was like something.

0:53:37.960 --> 0:53:40.080
<v Speaker 3>Either was like just trying to get my attention or

0:53:40.440 --> 0:53:41.920
<v Speaker 3>like I'm sleeping most.

0:53:41.800 --> 0:53:44.240
<v Speaker 1>Nights and I could see like this big black blob

0:53:44.320 --> 0:53:47.080
<v Speaker 1>of something like mixing up above me in the bed

0:53:48.320 --> 0:53:50.759
<v Speaker 1>and I don't before yeah, and I don't mind that

0:53:50.920 --> 0:53:55.000
<v Speaker 1>type of shit, but don't touch me, like as long

0:53:55.040 --> 0:53:56.239
<v Speaker 1>as it don't touch me.

0:53:56.440 --> 0:53:59.680
<v Speaker 3>I'm not afraid of it. Like I'm not afraid of

0:53:59.719 --> 0:54:01.800
<v Speaker 3>ghost Just don't put your hands on me.

0:54:03.400 --> 0:54:04.600
<v Speaker 2>How blob got hands?

0:54:04.680 --> 0:54:04.919
<v Speaker 6>Bitch?

0:54:07.040 --> 0:54:10.680
<v Speaker 2>Well, don't like, don't like, don't rub my body.

0:54:10.960 --> 0:54:13.040
<v Speaker 1>I'm so scared to sleep with my feet from underneath

0:54:13.040 --> 0:54:15.080
<v Speaker 1>the cover because all I think about is something fucking

0:54:15.160 --> 0:54:16.440
<v Speaker 1>touching my feet while I'm asleep.

0:54:16.920 --> 0:54:18.879
<v Speaker 2>Well, what you think if the coven out there, they're

0:54:18.920 --> 0:54:22.920
<v Speaker 2>not gonna touch your Yes, how work whether you got

0:54:23.000 --> 0:54:23.640
<v Speaker 2>a blanket or not.

0:54:23.800 --> 0:54:29.280
<v Speaker 1>Oh my god, that's not how I think blankets shield

0:54:29.400 --> 0:54:30.640
<v Speaker 1>you from ghosts.

0:54:31.680 --> 0:54:32.680
<v Speaker 3>You get underneath the cover.

0:54:32.840 --> 0:54:34.719
<v Speaker 1>Now, if the ghost start coming undneath the cove, they

0:54:34.800 --> 0:54:35.680
<v Speaker 1>trying to kill your ass.

0:54:35.920 --> 0:54:39.279
<v Speaker 2>So imagine the ghosts in here and be like, oh

0:54:39.520 --> 0:54:42.959
<v Speaker 2>damn that bitch under the blanket. We can't see her feet.

0:54:43.040 --> 0:54:43.640
<v Speaker 2>I can't even.

0:54:45.239 --> 0:54:46.960
<v Speaker 3>Are you afraid how to dark? Because I am?

0:54:47.360 --> 0:54:48.919
<v Speaker 2>I am? I don't sleep in the dark.

0:54:49.040 --> 0:54:51.040
<v Speaker 1>No, I'm not afraid of dark because I like sleeping

0:54:51.080 --> 0:54:53.279
<v Speaker 1>in the dark. I'm afraid of dark spaces. So like,

0:54:53.320 --> 0:54:55.080
<v Speaker 1>if I'm in the room and the door is open

0:54:55.160 --> 0:54:58.279
<v Speaker 1>and it's like it just looks like a dark hole.

0:54:58.880 --> 0:55:00.759
<v Speaker 3>I don't like that. I don't like open closets. I

0:55:00.760 --> 0:55:02.160
<v Speaker 3>don't like open bathroom doors.

0:55:02.520 --> 0:55:05.960
<v Speaker 1>I don't like open hallway doors because I don't like

0:55:06.080 --> 0:55:10.320
<v Speaker 1>looking down that dark hallway narrow spin.

0:55:11.760 --> 0:55:14.560
<v Speaker 2>Oh yeah, I usually sleep with my bedroom door open

0:55:15.120 --> 0:55:17.200
<v Speaker 2>and all of that be dark, but my room will

0:55:17.280 --> 0:55:20.520
<v Speaker 2>have like a sliver of light from the closet or

0:55:20.560 --> 0:55:24.200
<v Speaker 2>a slibber light from some fucking weird because I can't

0:55:24.239 --> 0:55:26.320
<v Speaker 2>sleep in pitch black. I cannot.

0:55:26.920 --> 0:55:28.839
<v Speaker 1>I can, And then I can't sleep in my door

0:55:29.000 --> 0:55:31.200
<v Speaker 1>like open, because if somebody come in to do something

0:55:31.239 --> 0:55:32.720
<v Speaker 1>to me. And this is when I was living alone,

0:55:33.200 --> 0:55:34.840
<v Speaker 1>Like I need to be able to prepare, Like you

0:55:34.960 --> 0:55:36.880
<v Speaker 1>just sleeping with your door open, somebody's gonna get in

0:55:36.920 --> 0:55:39.000
<v Speaker 1>your house to come straight in your room, in your room,

0:55:39.360 --> 0:55:42.640
<v Speaker 1>like I'm at least tear somebody wiggling the door or

0:55:42.719 --> 0:55:45.440
<v Speaker 1>trying to get in, because I would lock my from

0:55:45.480 --> 0:55:46.040
<v Speaker 1>my bedroom.

0:55:46.880 --> 0:55:50.480
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, but based on your story, go say, wiggling the

0:55:50.560 --> 0:55:56.520
<v Speaker 2>door you're coming through that give me my golden arm,

0:55:56.960 --> 0:55:59.399
<v Speaker 2>give me if I golden washed, bitch. When I found

0:55:59.440 --> 0:56:02.000
<v Speaker 2>out who brought get to my house, I was like, Oh,

0:56:02.800 --> 0:56:05.600
<v Speaker 2>what if it was a ghost, What if what a ghost?

0:56:05.680 --> 0:56:10.080
<v Speaker 2>Need to watch he might be trying to borter it

0:56:10.200 --> 0:56:12.680
<v Speaker 2>to get to the other side. Girl. God, how it

0:56:12.920 --> 0:56:16.239
<v Speaker 2>was I'll trying to buy his way into heaven. Right,

0:56:17.920 --> 0:56:21.279
<v Speaker 2>I got all. If somebody attorney in North Carolina you

0:56:21.360 --> 0:56:24.719
<v Speaker 2>listen to this show, please DM me because I need hell,

0:56:24.840 --> 0:56:27.480
<v Speaker 2>I need some assistance. That's all the whole story I

0:56:27.640 --> 0:56:29.520
<v Speaker 2>was thinking about. Oh, he got jokes.

0:56:31.360 --> 0:56:32.520
<v Speaker 3>He's not even talking about you.

0:56:32.920 --> 0:56:36.399
<v Speaker 2>Crazy, right, because how first of all, her RT wasn't

0:56:36.400 --> 0:56:38.600
<v Speaker 2>even gold in the beginning. It turned into a golden

0:56:38.640 --> 0:56:42.000
<v Speaker 2>hor she was rubbing it and then it turned gold. Yeah,

0:56:42.080 --> 0:56:43.240
<v Speaker 2>she's a thief.

0:56:44.800 --> 0:56:44.840
<v Speaker 6>This.

0:56:45.160 --> 0:56:48.080
<v Speaker 3>I don't know if it's global warming or not, but

0:56:48.680 --> 0:56:50.800
<v Speaker 3>do you not remember like Halloween used.

0:56:50.640 --> 0:56:53.239
<v Speaker 2>To be real cold cold? Yeah, it used to be

0:56:53.280 --> 0:56:56.440
<v Speaker 2>freezing cold. The fair my mama used to have on

0:56:56.480 --> 0:56:59.120
<v Speaker 2>a trench leather coat or trench wol code like in

0:56:59.480 --> 0:57:03.000
<v Speaker 2>at it's hot a twel outside. It's definitely global warming,

0:57:03.280 --> 0:57:05.400
<v Speaker 2>and we should be scared because.

0:57:05.280 --> 0:57:06.160
<v Speaker 3>Nigga's global warm.

0:57:06.200 --> 0:57:08.080
<v Speaker 2>I just think the Earth is changing like as it's

0:57:08.120 --> 0:57:10.560
<v Speaker 2>supposed to. That's the globe warming up.

0:57:11.000 --> 0:57:16.240
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, but it's also we have like long winters now too, though,

0:57:16.480 --> 0:57:18.880
<v Speaker 1>like it's colder longer. So I just think we just

0:57:19.080 --> 0:57:24.600
<v Speaker 1>in a different position in the universe. Yeah, like something's different.

0:57:25.080 --> 0:57:26.760
<v Speaker 1>I mean, things aren't supposed to say the same. I

0:57:26.800 --> 0:57:29.160
<v Speaker 1>don't think it's global warming though, but if it is,

0:57:29.240 --> 0:57:30.200
<v Speaker 1>guess who wanna survive?

0:57:31.720 --> 0:57:33.120
<v Speaker 3>The niggas who you sit the heat?

0:57:33.800 --> 0:57:37.720
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, but here's the thing, we gonna survive, right. But

0:57:38.000 --> 0:57:40.040
<v Speaker 2>I be feeling like we come back because people are like,

0:57:40.400 --> 0:57:42.439
<v Speaker 2>by the time that shit happened, i'mna be long gone.

0:57:42.520 --> 0:57:47.200
<v Speaker 2>You're gonna be back again, and somebody else suffering, yes, suffering,

0:57:47.760 --> 0:57:50.320
<v Speaker 2>so they'll stop saying I ain't gonna be here. You

0:57:50.600 --> 0:57:52.840
<v Speaker 2>very well mighty, and all of us gonna have to

0:57:52.880 --> 0:57:55.800
<v Speaker 2>wear has mask suits to go outside because you keep

0:57:55.840 --> 0:57:58.200
<v Speaker 2>on fucking up the ozone layer Shah.

0:57:58.840 --> 0:58:01.200
<v Speaker 1>Earth definitely tied of us when we started seeing all

0:58:01.240 --> 0:58:05.440
<v Speaker 1>these crazy ass storms. I mean, I do think some

0:58:05.560 --> 0:58:07.520
<v Speaker 1>of it is manipulated a little bit, because they do

0:58:07.720 --> 0:58:10.200
<v Speaker 1>have harp. It's a real thing, so they probably be

0:58:10.400 --> 0:58:12.040
<v Speaker 1>beefing up storms.

0:58:12.720 --> 0:58:14.920
<v Speaker 2>We are probably like COVID.

0:58:15.320 --> 0:58:18.680
<v Speaker 1>But for the Earth absolutely, they said during COVID, like

0:58:18.960 --> 0:58:21.040
<v Speaker 1>Earth kind of healed a little bit because people weren't

0:58:21.080 --> 0:58:23.800
<v Speaker 1>moving around as much. There was less smog, less pollution

0:58:23.960 --> 0:58:26.880
<v Speaker 1>in the air animals people ain't seen any years. It

0:58:26.960 --> 0:58:29.880
<v Speaker 1>was coming out like, hey, we out these niggas inside,

0:58:31.360 --> 0:58:33.800
<v Speaker 1>but we need to do that at least five times

0:58:33.840 --> 0:58:35.760
<v Speaker 1>a year, as in a house, that.

0:58:35.800 --> 0:58:39.160
<v Speaker 2>Would be nice. I listen as sad as COVID was

0:58:39.280 --> 0:58:41.680
<v Speaker 2>with all the you know people passing away from it.

0:58:42.320 --> 0:58:44.560
<v Speaker 2>I got a bike. I hadn't had a bike. I

0:58:44.680 --> 0:58:47.360
<v Speaker 2>was almost got killed. Now I will say that we're

0:58:47.440 --> 0:58:50.960
<v Speaker 2>riding the bike. Yeah, I was riding down one of

0:58:51.000 --> 0:58:53.200
<v Speaker 2>them country rolls. I told that story on here, and

0:58:53.280 --> 0:58:54.720
<v Speaker 2>then three bulls came wrong.

0:58:55.000 --> 0:58:56.680
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, stupid.

0:58:57.200 --> 0:58:59.840
<v Speaker 2>Oh my god. I was so glad that nigga had

0:58:59.880 --> 0:59:02.440
<v Speaker 2>that pistol because they was about to eat my I

0:59:02.480 --> 0:59:04.800
<v Speaker 2>had on red pants. I probably looked like a big,

0:59:05.160 --> 0:59:06.960
<v Speaker 2>fat ass steak riding down the street.

0:59:08.960 --> 0:59:09.880
<v Speaker 3>Give me that boogie.

0:59:12.840 --> 0:59:14.800
<v Speaker 2>But y'all, lit'sten dress the kids out. We want to

0:59:14.800 --> 0:59:15.320
<v Speaker 2>se them kids.

0:59:15.400 --> 0:59:18.000
<v Speaker 1>Pictures, man, d have muss some pictures of y'all kids. Uh,

0:59:18.560 --> 0:59:20.400
<v Speaker 1>Halloween costumes.

0:59:20.240 --> 0:59:24.200
<v Speaker 2>Yes, especially if you actually tried, you know, if you

0:59:24.280 --> 0:59:26.120
<v Speaker 2>gotta you know what, sit it, fuck it. If you

0:59:26.160 --> 0:59:28.880
<v Speaker 2>ain't even try real hard, send it anyway. What to

0:59:29.000 --> 0:59:31.280
<v Speaker 2>put the costume on a kid? Like put a sheet

0:59:31.320 --> 0:59:32.880
<v Speaker 2>with holes in the ass. You ever seen that?

0:59:33.360 --> 0:59:35.560
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, some people, that's all they can afford those costs.

0:59:36.120 --> 0:59:38.680
<v Speaker 1>Marshalls and Tej and Max got some super cute costumes.

0:59:38.720 --> 0:59:40.360
<v Speaker 1>Like I wish I had a kid. I'm gonna send

0:59:40.360 --> 0:59:43.960
<v Speaker 1>you this little uh unicorn costume they had in there.

0:59:44.000 --> 0:59:46.840
<v Speaker 2>I'm jealous because I got a kid to take pictures

0:59:46.840 --> 0:59:51.040
<v Speaker 2>in that. It's so cute. And are you gonna dress

0:59:51.120 --> 0:59:55.320
<v Speaker 2>up men? Meat? I did see like some little bat ears.

0:59:55.920 --> 0:59:56.840
<v Speaker 3>I should have ordered them.

0:59:56.920 --> 0:59:57.400
<v Speaker 2>What it is?

0:59:58.000 --> 0:59:59.120
<v Speaker 3>Oh, tomorrow's Halloween.

0:59:59.400 --> 1:00:01.680
<v Speaker 2>Tomorrow's when you gotta get it from Target or something

1:00:01.720 --> 1:00:05.040
<v Speaker 2>like that. I'm not a BELLA don't know it's Halloween,

1:00:05.160 --> 1:00:06.600
<v Speaker 2>so she's not getting a cost.

1:00:06.800 --> 1:00:08.240
<v Speaker 1>That's how I'm gonna do with my kids. I think

1:00:08.240 --> 1:00:09.760
<v Speaker 1>I'm not gonna tell him a by None of this ship.

1:00:09.800 --> 1:00:11.560
<v Speaker 1>The only thing I'm gonna tell him about his birthday.

1:00:11.920 --> 1:00:14.560
<v Speaker 1>I'm not gonna tell me Donald's exist. I'm not gonna

1:00:14.560 --> 1:00:18.280
<v Speaker 1>tell him about Halloween, Christmas, none of them.

1:00:19.920 --> 1:00:22.680
<v Speaker 2>Nobody, they're not. My kid's not gonna know how old

1:00:22.720 --> 1:00:27.560
<v Speaker 2>they are until they tall, because I wanted to think

1:00:27.600 --> 1:00:31.680
<v Speaker 2>that they can fly free, you know how small babies. Oh,

1:00:31.800 --> 1:00:34.880
<v Speaker 2>I to shut the fuck up. I don't know how

1:00:34.920 --> 1:00:38.400
<v Speaker 2>old you are. You don't have a big ass six

1:00:38.520 --> 1:00:41.120
<v Speaker 2>year old. I say he too, though he ain't gonna

1:00:41.120 --> 1:00:43.080
<v Speaker 2>know how old he is. He's gonna be confused. A hem.

1:00:43.520 --> 1:00:43.960
<v Speaker 2>I don't know.

1:00:46.000 --> 1:00:46.400
<v Speaker 6>My mom.

1:00:47.800 --> 1:00:51.040
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, because it's abuse. It's gonna know where we're at.

1:00:51.720 --> 1:00:53.840
<v Speaker 2>That's how you are, depending on where we're at. Be

1:00:55.560 --> 1:00:58.840
<v Speaker 2>under five, free, you under five. My nigga.

1:00:59.360 --> 1:01:01.840
<v Speaker 1>If somebody till my kid about any of these things,

1:01:01.920 --> 1:01:02.960
<v Speaker 1>I'm gonna say it's the devil.

1:01:03.080 --> 1:01:05.400
<v Speaker 3>I'm like McDonald's is the devil.

1:01:07.440 --> 1:01:08.200
<v Speaker 2>Who told you that.

1:01:10.360 --> 1:01:15.240
<v Speaker 3>I'm gonna demonize all the things, right, But but.

1:01:15.320 --> 1:01:16.920
<v Speaker 2>When you do that, that's how your kids end up

1:01:16.960 --> 1:01:24.000
<v Speaker 2>hoes you got That's what happened the ones who had whoa.

1:01:24.440 --> 1:01:26.720
<v Speaker 2>That was the baddest was when we got big, like

1:01:26.880 --> 1:01:27.479
<v Speaker 2>god damn.

1:01:28.080 --> 1:01:30.160
<v Speaker 3>So you mean to tell me people who who parents

1:01:30.200 --> 1:01:32.200
<v Speaker 3>ain't telling about? McDonald's is the biggest hose.

1:01:33.000 --> 1:01:35.520
<v Speaker 2>If you didn't have organg holes though, if you didn't

1:01:35.520 --> 1:01:37.680
<v Speaker 2>have a happy meal, You've been passing out happy meals

1:01:37.720 --> 1:01:44.960
<v Speaker 2>for about ten years now. I'd rather I want to

1:01:45.440 --> 1:01:47.360
<v Speaker 2>organic hold in ship. Give it to me.

1:01:47.720 --> 1:01:50.520
<v Speaker 3>I got her a little bit shit. We're gonna sell

1:01:50.600 --> 1:01:51.600
<v Speaker 3>averge Virginity.

1:01:52.160 --> 1:01:54.280
<v Speaker 2>Are you a big spooky person though, Like, are you

1:01:54.400 --> 1:01:58.200
<v Speaker 2>into like scary movies? And yes, I don't know why.

1:01:58.400 --> 1:02:03.919
<v Speaker 1>I literally just started watching hell Raiser and it's old whack. Yes,

1:02:04.000 --> 1:02:06.760
<v Speaker 1>it's so lame, but I'm looking for things because like

1:02:06.800 --> 1:02:08.680
<v Speaker 1>they got the Cuban Air, so that's Saturn.

1:02:08.760 --> 1:02:11.080
<v Speaker 2>It's different little things they be having hidden in movies.

1:02:11.120 --> 1:02:12.600
<v Speaker 1>And I'm like, let me go back and watch that

1:02:13.200 --> 1:02:16.640
<v Speaker 1>with my current brain because as a kid, you're just scared,

1:02:16.960 --> 1:02:18.400
<v Speaker 1>but it's disclosure in movies.

1:02:18.440 --> 1:02:21.760
<v Speaker 2>So I started back watching Hall Raiser and it's fucking whack. Man.

1:02:21.840 --> 1:02:24.720
<v Speaker 2>That shit is not scary. I don't watch I've never

1:02:24.760 --> 1:02:27.880
<v Speaker 2>seen Hell Raiser. I won't watch the Insidious movies. Those

1:02:27.880 --> 1:02:31.120
<v Speaker 2>shit has kind of scared me too, is scary. I've

1:02:31.200 --> 1:02:33.400
<v Speaker 2>never seen none of them I have, and I don't

1:02:33.440 --> 1:02:33.760
<v Speaker 2>know why.

1:02:33.840 --> 1:02:35.160
<v Speaker 3>I like to feel scared like that.

1:02:35.280 --> 1:02:38.000
<v Speaker 2>It's like being scared too, but only would have little

1:02:38.000 --> 1:02:40.479
<v Speaker 2>bit though, So I think it's just some whole shit

1:02:40.720 --> 1:02:43.840
<v Speaker 2>and it's correlated with scary because I don't want to

1:02:43.880 --> 1:02:46.280
<v Speaker 2>be sitting scared by myself. Well, when they got to

1:02:46.280 --> 1:02:54.240
<v Speaker 2>be like, oh, pretend me, that's scary, hohle shit, Yeah,

1:02:54.320 --> 1:02:54.600
<v Speaker 2>that's it.

1:02:54.840 --> 1:02:57.320
<v Speaker 1>No, I like scary movies and I'm watching by myself too,

1:02:57.480 --> 1:02:59.880
<v Speaker 1>Like it'd be a whole date when I watch TV.

1:03:00.040 --> 1:03:03.640
<v Speaker 2>I'm gonna take a shower, get my little food whatever. Yeah,

1:03:03.800 --> 1:03:06.560
<v Speaker 2>I like watch a scary movie by yourself. Yes, I

1:03:06.760 --> 1:03:07.360
<v Speaker 2>like to feel.

1:03:08.000 --> 1:03:09.360
<v Speaker 3>I like to feel kind of scary.

1:03:09.800 --> 1:03:13.000
<v Speaker 2>Oh yeah. The series I'm watching right now, I think

1:03:13.040 --> 1:03:13.680
<v Speaker 2>I send it to you.

1:03:13.920 --> 1:03:15.560
<v Speaker 3>The Devil's Hour. Did I send it to you?

1:03:16.000 --> 1:03:16.680
<v Speaker 2>Yeah? You mentioned it.

1:03:16.920 --> 1:03:21.120
<v Speaker 1>It's not it's not scary though, It's like it's not though,

1:03:21.320 --> 1:03:24.760
<v Speaker 1>like it's you know how people say, like what after

1:03:24.920 --> 1:03:26.400
<v Speaker 1>like three o'clock in the morning is usually like the

1:03:26.480 --> 1:03:29.560
<v Speaker 1>dead hour. People call it the dead hour, like three

1:03:29.760 --> 1:03:33.920
<v Speaker 1>four No, so the dead hour is like wee hours

1:03:33.960 --> 1:03:36.120
<v Speaker 1>of the night, like when everything is sleep because you know,

1:03:36.120 --> 1:03:37.440
<v Speaker 1>they say you're supposed to go to sleep with the

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<v Speaker 1>birds and wake up with the birds. So it's like

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<v Speaker 1>that time like when the world is real still like

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<v Speaker 1>between three and four am. But this lady in the series,

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<v Speaker 1>she keeps waking up every night at three.

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<v Speaker 2>We talked about this.

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<v Speaker 3>Last week, did I three thirty three a M.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, because I want you to put you a DM

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<v Speaker 2>say what they said about I'd be saying the same

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<v Speaker 2>shit or something. No, she was like that, AJ judging

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<v Speaker 2>us for watching true crime, but she watches some shit

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<v Speaker 2>called The devil Our or some shit.

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<v Speaker 1>Like yeah, but if it's not about it's about time traveling,

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<v Speaker 1>not even time travel, it's really about reincarnation.

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<v Speaker 2>But realizing that, like I was telling it. Oh boy,

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<v Speaker 2>like we're here, right, and when we die.

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<v Speaker 1>Some people in this show, the main character, he remembers

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<v Speaker 1>his previous lives, right, so he's actually trying to save people.

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<v Speaker 1>He kills himself or somebody kills him, right, and he

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<v Speaker 1>comes back, but he already knows what happened, like he's

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<v Speaker 1>taking notes from the last life. So remember you ever

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<v Speaker 1>seen me put that on my story? Remember Remember Remember?

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<v Speaker 1>And I think when I have a kid, I'm going

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<v Speaker 1>to keep telling him remember remember remember. Because I believe

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<v Speaker 1>in reincarnation. I believe we exist on different timelines and

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<v Speaker 1>different lives, and I believe that you can actually come

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<v Speaker 1>back as your current self.

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<v Speaker 3>Remember your past life.

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<v Speaker 1>You just be forgetting, especially like adults are dream killers,

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<v Speaker 1>so like little kids, they probably.

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<v Speaker 2>Be remember who they are.

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<v Speaker 1>Shoot up the damn womb, Like god, damn, I'm backing

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<v Speaker 1>this motherfucker. That might be the light we're seeing coming

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<v Speaker 1>out the womb. That's what people see when they die

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<v Speaker 1>or have near death, near death experiences. They're seeing that

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<v Speaker 1>light coming out of the next womb.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, that's what I think.

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<v Speaker 3>So what if you can remember.

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<v Speaker 1>Your previous lives? But it's it's a simulation. That's what

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<v Speaker 1>the story the series is about.

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<v Speaker 3>The devils are. It's just a simulation. Go watch the

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<v Speaker 3>episode that means the serious Anyway'm.

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<v Speaker 2>Gonna watch it. I'm gonna watch it. I'm gonna try

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<v Speaker 2>it out.

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<v Speaker 3>Anyway, y'all, if you enjoyed this episode.

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