1 00:00:04,840 --> 00:00:07,400 Speaker 1: The following. He's a production of Dallas Cowboys dot Com 2 00:00:07,440 --> 00:00:19,960 Speaker 1: and the Dallas Cowboys Football Club, Blowing out of the backfields, 3 00:00:20,040 --> 00:00:25,240 Speaker 1: flowing down the sidelines. He's hanging with the Boys, presented 4 00:00:25,320 --> 00:00:30,240 Speaker 1: by Wing Stuff where Flavor gets its wings. Now, your hosts, 5 00:00:30,360 --> 00:00:40,880 Speaker 1: Nate Newton, Kurt Daniels, Jesse Holly, and Shannon Gross, Welcome 6 00:00:40,960 --> 00:00:46,000 Speaker 1: to the show Thursday, live from the s WBC Mortgage 7 00:00:46,200 --> 00:00:50,440 Speaker 1: living Room in Frisco, Texas. Shann and Gross, Jesse Holly, 8 00:00:51,000 --> 00:00:57,440 Speaker 1: Kurt Daniels. We are natelist today. Nate. I'm having some difficulty, 9 00:00:57,640 --> 00:01:00,360 Speaker 1: so Chef Jesse is back in the building. We'll be 10 00:01:00,400 --> 00:01:04,880 Speaker 1: looking at us today. Let's just cook, oh man, let's cook. 11 00:01:05,240 --> 00:01:09,479 Speaker 1: We gotta. Nat is having technical difficulty, so he will 12 00:01:09,520 --> 00:01:13,319 Speaker 1: not be joining us. Chris is having technical difficulties too, 13 00:01:13,360 --> 00:01:17,120 Speaker 1: because I'm hearing all kinds of echo. We'll get that 14 00:01:17,200 --> 00:01:19,640 Speaker 1: under control. There we go, There we go, There we go. 15 00:01:20,080 --> 00:01:24,400 Speaker 1: Now we're in business, all right, man? Where do we start? Today? 16 00:01:24,520 --> 00:01:28,520 Speaker 1: Today is Thursday, and hopefully by next week I will 17 00:01:28,560 --> 00:01:30,800 Speaker 1: get this poster hung on the wall behind me so 18 00:01:30,840 --> 00:01:37,200 Speaker 1: I don't have to keep rollings. I know I'm gonna 19 00:01:37,200 --> 00:01:39,720 Speaker 1: get it. I'm gonna get it fixed eventually. I'm going 20 00:01:39,800 --> 00:01:43,000 Speaker 1: to get it fixed eventually. All right, let's tell you 21 00:01:43,000 --> 00:01:46,520 Speaker 1: know what. Let's start with Let's start with Sean good news. 22 00:01:46,920 --> 00:01:49,440 Speaker 1: Let's good news. Let's do good news. Let's let's do 23 00:01:49,560 --> 00:01:51,640 Speaker 1: good news. Let's you know what's good new more Dallas 24 00:01:51,640 --> 00:01:56,840 Speaker 1: Cowboy does Bryant, Yes, the Ravens signing this morning with 25 00:01:56,920 --> 00:02:01,040 Speaker 1: the Ravens. I saw that back to their practice squad, 26 00:02:01,520 --> 00:02:04,160 Speaker 1: so you know, all of his workouts are paid off 27 00:02:04,200 --> 00:02:06,639 Speaker 1: and they've you know, they flew him in this morning 28 00:02:06,680 --> 00:02:09,680 Speaker 1: and so everything passed with the physical and all the 29 00:02:09,720 --> 00:02:13,280 Speaker 1: COVID stuff and the workout works all well, Dez will 30 00:02:13,320 --> 00:02:15,720 Speaker 1: be a Baltimore Raven. He'll be on the practice squad. 31 00:02:16,120 --> 00:02:17,960 Speaker 1: But you know the new rules with the practice squad, 32 00:02:18,040 --> 00:02:21,320 Speaker 1: you can bring guys up and down. So Daz will 33 00:02:21,400 --> 00:02:25,720 Speaker 1: be hopefully on a team by the end of business day. 34 00:02:25,760 --> 00:02:29,160 Speaker 1: So shout out to Dez Bryant and his team for 35 00:02:29,320 --> 00:02:32,440 Speaker 1: getting him back on the field. He hasn't played in 36 00:02:32,480 --> 00:02:34,680 Speaker 1: the n He hasn't played in the NFL game since 37 00:02:34,720 --> 00:02:39,800 Speaker 1: December twenty seventeen. Yeah, it's been a while. Do you 38 00:02:39,840 --> 00:02:42,800 Speaker 1: expect him Jesse being a wide receiver and being out 39 00:02:42,800 --> 00:02:44,200 Speaker 1: of the game that long. Do you expect him to 40 00:02:44,240 --> 00:02:46,280 Speaker 1: have any kind of impact this season or is that 41 00:02:46,360 --> 00:02:49,720 Speaker 1: kind of a setup move for next season. No, I 42 00:02:49,760 --> 00:02:53,880 Speaker 1: think this is a setup move for late season playoff. 43 00:02:55,800 --> 00:02:57,760 Speaker 1: I think with this team, you look at what the 44 00:02:57,840 --> 00:03:01,760 Speaker 1: Ravens do to add that kind of dimension in the 45 00:03:01,800 --> 00:03:04,440 Speaker 1: red zone will do wonders for what they want to 46 00:03:04,480 --> 00:03:07,560 Speaker 1: do with Lamar Jackson, especially those tight ends. So giving 47 00:03:07,600 --> 00:03:11,280 Speaker 1: a guy like that the red zone opportunities, you know, 48 00:03:11,360 --> 00:03:14,680 Speaker 1: you gotta respect that fadeball um, you gotta respect that. 49 00:03:14,760 --> 00:03:18,320 Speaker 1: So I think this is more for a late season 50 00:03:19,120 --> 00:03:23,480 Speaker 1: playoff tight push and adding that extra extra animal in 51 00:03:23,520 --> 00:03:25,440 Speaker 1: the red zone that they have to now account for. 52 00:03:26,080 --> 00:03:28,960 Speaker 1: I'm surprised that he didn't sign somewhere sooner given that 53 00:03:29,000 --> 00:03:31,359 Speaker 1: way to practice squad works this year, with being able 54 00:03:31,400 --> 00:03:33,200 Speaker 1: to add veterans and bring him up and down that 55 00:03:33,280 --> 00:03:35,360 Speaker 1: sort of thing. It's good to see him, Good to 56 00:03:35,400 --> 00:03:38,760 Speaker 1: see him back in the league. Yeah, I'm happy, man. 57 00:03:40,720 --> 00:03:42,520 Speaker 1: He's a guy that's even though he's been out of 58 00:03:42,520 --> 00:03:45,440 Speaker 1: the league, he's you know, he's stayed engaged. He watches 59 00:03:45,480 --> 00:03:47,760 Speaker 1: the games on the weekends. He's still you know, he's 60 00:03:47,760 --> 00:03:49,280 Speaker 1: still got a lot of guys that he played with 61 00:03:49,400 --> 00:03:52,440 Speaker 1: on this team that he you know, keeps up with 62 00:03:52,560 --> 00:03:56,520 Speaker 1: and talks about on Twitter every every Cowboys game Sunday. So, um, 63 00:03:57,520 --> 00:04:00,760 Speaker 1: you'd like to see people that are as passionate as 64 00:04:00,800 --> 00:04:05,560 Speaker 1: he is. Sometimes too passionate, some would argue, but you 65 00:04:05,560 --> 00:04:08,400 Speaker 1: you know, you can tell he actually loves the game 66 00:04:08,440 --> 00:04:11,520 Speaker 1: and loves being around the guys. And you know, I 67 00:04:11,640 --> 00:04:15,400 Speaker 1: love seeing you know, something like that where you know 68 00:04:15,520 --> 00:04:17,880 Speaker 1: he's not done yet. So I think that'd be a 69 00:04:17,880 --> 00:04:21,440 Speaker 1: really cool thing. Another guy, that's another good news, Randy Gregory. 70 00:04:21,560 --> 00:04:24,760 Speaker 1: We didn't talk about this yesterday, but eligible to play 71 00:04:24,760 --> 00:04:28,240 Speaker 1: on Sunday. Do we think there's a chance in hell 72 00:04:28,320 --> 00:04:30,240 Speaker 1: that he sees the field or has he got three 73 00:04:30,320 --> 00:04:32,880 Speaker 1: or four weeks to getting conditioned and and all that 74 00:04:32,920 --> 00:04:35,679 Speaker 1: stuff before he I mean, we could use the help, 75 00:04:36,080 --> 00:04:39,479 Speaker 1: but Jesse as a player, would he be ready to 76 00:04:39,480 --> 00:04:41,440 Speaker 1: play Sunday? Or has he got two or three or 77 00:04:41,480 --> 00:04:44,719 Speaker 1: four weeks left before he can get there? So now, 78 00:04:44,960 --> 00:04:48,120 Speaker 1: to correct me if I'm wrong, Kurt Schennon, when they 79 00:04:48,279 --> 00:04:52,040 Speaker 1: reinstated him, he still had the ability to be at 80 00:04:52,040 --> 00:04:54,000 Speaker 1: the facility. Correct, He didn't have to stay away from 81 00:04:54,000 --> 00:04:57,320 Speaker 1: the facility, right, and he's he's been working out, he's 82 00:04:57,360 --> 00:05:00,720 Speaker 1: been working out, right, Yeah, So I mean as far 83 00:05:00,800 --> 00:05:03,520 Speaker 1: as shape now working out, has he been working out, 84 00:05:03,560 --> 00:05:05,520 Speaker 1: and has he been practicing or this is his first 85 00:05:05,520 --> 00:05:08,920 Speaker 1: week actually practicing. I think he's been able to practice too, right, 86 00:05:09,520 --> 00:05:12,360 Speaker 1: I believe the same thing. So if he's been practicing 87 00:05:12,360 --> 00:05:14,120 Speaker 1: and he's been here, I mean he's been here for 88 00:05:14,160 --> 00:05:17,360 Speaker 1: six weeks, so you know, giving those guys a look 89 00:05:17,360 --> 00:05:22,000 Speaker 1: on this practice squad? Uh, you know, scout team type stuff. Hell, 90 00:05:22,120 --> 00:05:24,479 Speaker 1: what do we have to lose it this time? You 91 00:05:24,480 --> 00:05:26,520 Speaker 1: know what I'm saying. At this point in time, We're 92 00:05:26,520 --> 00:05:29,360 Speaker 1: looking for anything that's going to give us a spark, 93 00:05:29,960 --> 00:05:32,560 Speaker 1: any live body that's going to give us some action, 94 00:05:32,760 --> 00:05:35,480 Speaker 1: anybody that we can give an assignment to and that 95 00:05:35,520 --> 00:05:42,800 Speaker 1: can actually execute it. So I don't I don't. If 96 00:05:42,839 --> 00:05:45,479 Speaker 1: he doesn't play, I'm like, well, I didn't he play 97 00:05:45,640 --> 00:05:48,080 Speaker 1: because you need the bodies. You need the bodies, you 98 00:05:48,200 --> 00:05:52,560 Speaker 1: fresh body, active body, and you know this is a 99 00:05:52,680 --> 00:05:55,839 Speaker 1: game where you can't. You can't lose to the football 100 00:05:55,880 --> 00:05:59,120 Speaker 1: team of Washington. You can't. So I mean, I want 101 00:05:59,120 --> 00:06:02,080 Speaker 1: to get guys after their office A lot is not 102 00:06:02,160 --> 00:06:06,200 Speaker 1: that good. I want to get guys, Randy ever Sin 103 00:06:06,440 --> 00:06:10,320 Speaker 1: the Marcus um u all. Did I know he had 104 00:06:10,320 --> 00:06:12,400 Speaker 1: the next thing? You know, kind of this week. But 105 00:06:12,440 --> 00:06:14,240 Speaker 1: I want to get guy after this quarterback. I want 106 00:06:14,320 --> 00:06:16,479 Speaker 1: Kyle Allen to feel the pressure. I want Kyle Allen 107 00:06:16,520 --> 00:06:19,360 Speaker 1: to be touched. I want Kyle Allen to be uh. 108 00:06:21,040 --> 00:06:23,039 Speaker 1: I want I want him to feel the pressure. I 109 00:06:23,040 --> 00:06:25,359 Speaker 1: want to feel the heat. So if that means putting 110 00:06:25,400 --> 00:06:28,320 Speaker 1: in Reddy Gregory for twenty twenty five snaps, I'm with it. 111 00:06:29,080 --> 00:06:33,919 Speaker 1: I think it'll be interesting to sue who they bench, Yeah, 112 00:06:34,000 --> 00:06:36,280 Speaker 1: because you know, are they gonna sit one of the 113 00:06:36,360 --> 00:06:38,000 Speaker 1: young guys. I think we're all kind of at the 114 00:06:38,000 --> 00:06:40,040 Speaker 1: point we'd like to see these young guys get a chance, 115 00:06:40,080 --> 00:06:42,680 Speaker 1: you know, Bradley and a and some of the guys 116 00:06:42,680 --> 00:06:45,200 Speaker 1: in the middle. Hamilton had a good game, you know, 117 00:06:45,320 --> 00:06:48,680 Speaker 1: relatively speaking last week, Gallimore. But you know, do you 118 00:06:48,839 --> 00:06:52,279 Speaker 1: sit a Griffin or a Poe or a Crawford. I 119 00:06:52,320 --> 00:06:55,400 Speaker 1: mean it's gonna be interesting. I mean you can sit 120 00:06:55,520 --> 00:06:57,400 Speaker 1: you can sit Poe. I mean he'll be doing the 121 00:06:57,440 --> 00:07:00,200 Speaker 1: exact same thing he's doing on the bench that he's 122 00:07:00,200 --> 00:07:02,479 Speaker 1: actually doing in the game. So you won't you won't 123 00:07:02,520 --> 00:07:05,960 Speaker 1: miss you'll you'll probably gain something by him not being 124 00:07:06,040 --> 00:07:08,880 Speaker 1: on the field, because all you're doing is taking up 125 00:07:09,200 --> 00:07:12,440 Speaker 1: not even good space. He's just there and getting he's 126 00:07:12,480 --> 00:07:15,240 Speaker 1: pulling up grass with his cleats. That's that's what I 127 00:07:15,280 --> 00:07:17,360 Speaker 1: hope they do. I hope they let these young guys 128 00:07:17,360 --> 00:07:20,920 Speaker 1: playing it. Remember Alden Smith popped up on the injury 129 00:07:22,440 --> 00:07:27,640 Speaker 1: with the neck, Yeah, yesterday, So this is the week 130 00:07:27,680 --> 00:07:34,240 Speaker 1: for him to be sitting down. Well, he practice. He'll 131 00:07:34,320 --> 00:07:37,440 Speaker 1: practice a little bit yesterday, practice more today, so you 132 00:07:37,480 --> 00:07:40,640 Speaker 1: know they'll still see in. You know, you know, maybe 133 00:07:40,640 --> 00:07:43,760 Speaker 1: they don't have to take anybody off if you know, 134 00:07:43,920 --> 00:07:48,400 Speaker 1: if if you're down on Zach Martin this game, you know, 135 00:07:48,560 --> 00:07:51,600 Speaker 1: with his such concussion and stuff like that. So I 136 00:07:51,640 --> 00:07:53,960 Speaker 1: don't know. I don't know that though, if he's available 137 00:07:54,000 --> 00:07:56,720 Speaker 1: to go, then I think he should be up. Remember, 138 00:07:56,800 --> 00:07:59,560 Speaker 1: you have to you have to bring in eight offensive 139 00:07:59,560 --> 00:08:07,080 Speaker 1: linemen and to per do we even have, Yeah, bring 140 00:08:07,080 --> 00:08:09,280 Speaker 1: eight offensive alignment. You can bring the two off the 141 00:08:09,320 --> 00:08:11,600 Speaker 1: practice squad and they can play. Does that make sense? 142 00:08:11,720 --> 00:08:13,920 Speaker 1: If you don't, if you don't suit up eight, you 143 00:08:13,920 --> 00:08:16,680 Speaker 1: can't have those extra two guys. And you're always gonna 144 00:08:16,680 --> 00:08:19,840 Speaker 1: want those extra two guys Okay, so it doesn't matter 145 00:08:19,880 --> 00:08:21,920 Speaker 1: if the guy's hurt, he's gonna have pads and the 146 00:08:21,960 --> 00:08:28,320 Speaker 1: should shoulder pads and the helmet on. Got you another 147 00:08:28,320 --> 00:08:32,040 Speaker 1: guy that that Sean Lee spoke yesterday, Kurt, Do you 148 00:08:32,480 --> 00:08:35,439 Speaker 1: have any idea what that's what that's all about? Is 149 00:08:35,440 --> 00:08:37,480 Speaker 1: he getting ready to play? Was that just kind of 150 00:08:38,160 --> 00:08:41,400 Speaker 1: checking in and say hey, I'm still here? You know? Yeah? 151 00:08:41,400 --> 00:08:43,800 Speaker 1: I think like Jesse kind of. I think I can't 152 00:08:43,800 --> 00:08:45,640 Speaker 1: remember he said it in a tweeter or text, but 153 00:08:45,840 --> 00:08:48,040 Speaker 1: I think it's just a veteran trying to calm down 154 00:08:48,040 --> 00:08:52,319 Speaker 1: the room a little bit. And I don't know, Jesse 155 00:08:52,960 --> 00:08:55,400 Speaker 1: tell us, you know, was he doing to me? He's 156 00:08:55,400 --> 00:08:58,040 Speaker 1: probably doing that more for the media and fans than 157 00:08:58,080 --> 00:08:59,959 Speaker 1: he is for the team itself. But I don't know 158 00:09:00,640 --> 00:09:04,280 Speaker 1: will that resonate any with the players? No, that that 159 00:09:04,360 --> 00:09:07,920 Speaker 1: was that one that's strictly media driven stuff. Let let 160 00:09:07,920 --> 00:09:11,520 Speaker 1: me send a veteran guy who people respect, whose word 161 00:09:11,760 --> 00:09:16,439 Speaker 1: is respected across the league, to the fan base and 162 00:09:16,520 --> 00:09:20,439 Speaker 1: let Captain Sean Lee calm the rocky waters, you know. 163 00:09:20,760 --> 00:09:23,360 Speaker 1: And what he said was what you wanted a guy 164 00:09:23,400 --> 00:09:26,160 Speaker 1: like Sean Lee to say, say, listen, we don't really 165 00:09:26,200 --> 00:09:28,760 Speaker 1: take well, you know, we don't really listen to lynymous sources. 166 00:09:29,120 --> 00:09:31,400 Speaker 1: Can you really truch anonymous sources? Is it even the 167 00:09:31,520 --> 00:09:33,680 Speaker 1: real Can it be somebody who's in the locker room? 168 00:09:33,920 --> 00:09:37,240 Speaker 1: Maybe it wasn't. So he they sent the one guy 169 00:09:37,440 --> 00:09:40,920 Speaker 1: who people know and respect to go out to face 170 00:09:40,920 --> 00:09:43,760 Speaker 1: the media to say the right things because you you know, 171 00:09:44,160 --> 00:09:46,920 Speaker 1: we all speculated on who it was or who it 172 00:09:47,000 --> 00:09:49,360 Speaker 1: may be, and so you don't want to put those 173 00:09:49,360 --> 00:09:51,840 Speaker 1: guys in front of the camera to get berated with 174 00:09:51,880 --> 00:09:54,959 Speaker 1: those questions. But for me, I think Sean Lee was 175 00:09:55,000 --> 00:09:58,160 Speaker 1: the perfect person to put out there. And this is 176 00:09:58,160 --> 00:10:00,640 Speaker 1: a guy who might, like I say, I didn't look 177 00:10:00,640 --> 00:10:03,760 Speaker 1: at it. What was the purpose of Shawn Lee even speaking? Like, 178 00:10:04,440 --> 00:10:06,800 Speaker 1: why was Shaun Lee speaking? He's not playing this weekend, 179 00:10:07,320 --> 00:10:08,839 Speaker 1: not a part of the game plan. He hasn't done 180 00:10:08,840 --> 00:10:12,240 Speaker 1: anything significant all season long, so there was no need 181 00:10:12,280 --> 00:10:15,000 Speaker 1: for Sean Lee to be in front of the camera. 182 00:10:15,320 --> 00:10:17,839 Speaker 1: But great job by rich dalrymple for getting the right 183 00:10:17,840 --> 00:10:19,480 Speaker 1: people to go in front of the camera to say 184 00:10:19,520 --> 00:10:22,000 Speaker 1: the right things, to send that message out to the 185 00:10:22,080 --> 00:10:25,240 Speaker 1: masses to kind of just kind of calm the waters 186 00:10:25,280 --> 00:10:27,599 Speaker 1: a little bit. It's still a little bit rocky. But 187 00:10:27,880 --> 00:10:30,599 Speaker 1: Captain Lee came out and this gave a statement to 188 00:10:30,840 --> 00:10:34,199 Speaker 1: see and and that's weird to me because PR doesn't 189 00:10:34,280 --> 00:10:36,480 Speaker 1: usually do things like that. Usually they're more of a 190 00:10:36,559 --> 00:10:40,080 Speaker 1: hands off approach and just they don't our PR staff 191 00:10:40,120 --> 00:10:43,800 Speaker 1: doesn't do a lot of I guess, you know, kind 192 00:10:43,800 --> 00:10:46,360 Speaker 1: of spinning in situations like that when it comes to 193 00:10:46,400 --> 00:10:49,360 Speaker 1: the football stuff. So you think that was a PR 194 00:10:49,440 --> 00:10:51,920 Speaker 1: move or do you think that was Sean Lee saying, hey, 195 00:10:51,960 --> 00:10:55,240 Speaker 1: I need to get control of this and get this 196 00:10:55,440 --> 00:10:57,600 Speaker 1: was that the player? Was it player driven or was 197 00:10:57,640 --> 00:11:00,199 Speaker 1: it PR driven or was it coaching driven? Do you 198 00:11:00,880 --> 00:11:04,040 Speaker 1: think that was PR driven? Jesse, I think it was. 199 00:11:04,240 --> 00:11:07,559 Speaker 1: I think it was calculated. I don't think it was 200 00:11:08,920 --> 00:11:11,439 Speaker 1: just a random occurrence with Sean Lee wanted to come 201 00:11:11,440 --> 00:11:13,960 Speaker 1: out and say something. I think it was a calculated 202 00:11:13,960 --> 00:11:15,400 Speaker 1: and I just say Rich dalm but I don't know 203 00:11:15,400 --> 00:11:17,720 Speaker 1: if it's actually Rinch Dalrymple, So Rich don't please don't 204 00:11:17,720 --> 00:11:21,559 Speaker 1: texta call me and fussed me out. But it just 205 00:11:21,679 --> 00:11:25,400 Speaker 1: felt calculated. It felt like this was the statement we 206 00:11:25,400 --> 00:11:27,840 Speaker 1: should put out. This was not saying any statement, but 207 00:11:27,840 --> 00:11:29,920 Speaker 1: this is the player who we should have speak on 208 00:11:29,920 --> 00:11:31,840 Speaker 1: this matter right now, and this guy, Like I said, 209 00:11:31,880 --> 00:11:34,080 Speaker 1: what has Sean Lee done that we want to even 210 00:11:34,160 --> 00:11:36,120 Speaker 1: hear from him at this point in time? And I don't. 211 00:11:36,160 --> 00:11:38,040 Speaker 1: I don't mean that in a very I don't mean 212 00:11:38,080 --> 00:11:40,400 Speaker 1: that in an angry way or a facetious way. I'm 213 00:11:40,440 --> 00:11:42,880 Speaker 1: just saying, what is Shan Lee doing that we need 214 00:11:42,920 --> 00:11:45,000 Speaker 1: to hear from him? You know what I'm saying. Like 215 00:11:45,160 --> 00:11:48,160 Speaker 1: he's he's not the quarterback, he's not the start running back, 216 00:11:48,760 --> 00:11:51,040 Speaker 1: Like he doesn't fit any of those categories as of 217 00:11:51,080 --> 00:11:53,600 Speaker 1: a guy that we want to hear from right now. 218 00:11:53,640 --> 00:11:56,000 Speaker 1: He's not announcing that he's coming back this week, right. 219 00:11:56,120 --> 00:11:59,959 Speaker 1: Nothing about Sean Lee speaking in that particular moment about 220 00:12:00,240 --> 00:12:05,040 Speaker 1: that particular topic at that particular time. To me, it 221 00:12:05,160 --> 00:12:09,040 Speaker 1: seems that this was orchestrated by someone, whoever it may be. 222 00:12:09,200 --> 00:12:12,480 Speaker 1: It just didn't seem like, oh, yeah, today's Tuesday, Well 223 00:12:12,520 --> 00:12:15,120 Speaker 1: today Thursday, today's Wednesday. So let's get Sean Lee in 224 00:12:15,160 --> 00:12:17,400 Speaker 1: front of the camera for what we haven't heard from 225 00:12:17,400 --> 00:12:20,640 Speaker 1: Shan Lee in five weeks? We have heard one. We 226 00:12:20,679 --> 00:12:25,760 Speaker 1: have heard one thing from Sean Lee. Yeah, at this point, 227 00:12:26,280 --> 00:12:28,720 Speaker 1: I mean, if he was playing, maybe the players might 228 00:12:29,280 --> 00:12:30,599 Speaker 1: might he might be able to step up in the 229 00:12:30,640 --> 00:12:33,240 Speaker 1: room and say something. But right now he's just like 230 00:12:33,240 --> 00:12:36,280 Speaker 1: he said, and it's kind of moved on and left 231 00:12:36,280 --> 00:12:38,199 Speaker 1: to this. You know, injured guys are just sort of 232 00:12:38,240 --> 00:12:42,040 Speaker 1: forgotten in some ways. Maybe coach call, Maybe coach called 233 00:12:42,160 --> 00:12:46,840 Speaker 1: Rich and told him to fix this issue. Yeah, you know, 234 00:12:47,080 --> 00:12:50,000 Speaker 1: And that's another thing I've been thinking about what coach 235 00:12:50,080 --> 00:12:54,320 Speaker 1: McCarthy is you And I know the coach has been 236 00:12:54,320 --> 00:12:58,000 Speaker 1: in this league for a very long time, but even 237 00:12:58,040 --> 00:13:01,960 Speaker 1: as a player, like my first teams with Cincinnati and 238 00:13:02,000 --> 00:13:04,520 Speaker 1: then I came to the Cowboys and it was like 239 00:13:05,320 --> 00:13:08,880 Speaker 1: whoa when it comes to the media coverage and how 240 00:13:08,960 --> 00:13:13,199 Speaker 1: things grow and blow up with this particular team, and 241 00:13:13,240 --> 00:13:16,400 Speaker 1: it was it was shocking to me. And then I 242 00:13:16,400 --> 00:13:18,880 Speaker 1: went on to New England and it was a completely 243 00:13:18,960 --> 00:13:22,600 Speaker 1: different vibe when it came to media and publicity and 244 00:13:22,640 --> 00:13:25,680 Speaker 1: things of that nature. And I was thinking yesterday and 245 00:13:25,720 --> 00:13:29,160 Speaker 1: I wasn't on the throne, but I was just thinking, um, 246 00:13:31,120 --> 00:13:33,840 Speaker 1: like Mike, for coach McCarthy is like, you spent a 247 00:13:33,840 --> 00:13:36,359 Speaker 1: lot of time in Green Bay and that's not a 248 00:13:36,520 --> 00:13:40,559 Speaker 1: very big media driven market, you know, small town, small 249 00:13:40,640 --> 00:13:43,240 Speaker 1: kind of really you know, intimate setting that you have 250 00:13:43,360 --> 00:13:46,480 Speaker 1: there in Green Bay, but when you came here, like, 251 00:13:46,520 --> 00:13:48,720 Speaker 1: did you think that you would be having to deal 252 00:13:48,760 --> 00:13:53,040 Speaker 1: with this much media criticism and having to answer questions 253 00:13:53,040 --> 00:13:56,160 Speaker 1: and be on multiple radio shows and every time you 254 00:13:56,200 --> 00:13:59,040 Speaker 1: look up, you're the lead at you know, on all 255 00:13:59,080 --> 00:14:01,640 Speaker 1: the three letter full of networks and you know, you 256 00:14:01,679 --> 00:14:05,000 Speaker 1: know what I'm saying on the internet, Like like, that's 257 00:14:05,000 --> 00:14:09,480 Speaker 1: something that I don't think many players or many coaches 258 00:14:09,679 --> 00:14:13,199 Speaker 1: realize until you're actually sitting in the seat with the 259 00:14:13,280 --> 00:14:16,280 Speaker 1: star on your helmet or on your chest, because this 260 00:14:16,440 --> 00:14:19,520 Speaker 1: has to be this has to be something completely different 261 00:14:19,520 --> 00:14:23,520 Speaker 1: than what he's been used to. Yeah, Yeah, we talked. Yeah, 262 00:14:23,560 --> 00:14:25,840 Speaker 1: we talked about that last night on Cowboys Cross Talk. 263 00:14:25,880 --> 00:14:27,840 Speaker 1: You know, we had Dat Winn was was on the 264 00:14:27,880 --> 00:14:30,920 Speaker 1: show with us, and from the Fan we had Mike 265 00:14:30,960 --> 00:14:33,160 Speaker 1: Fisher was on and then and then I hosted, and 266 00:14:33,160 --> 00:14:35,640 Speaker 1: then Nate was on with us. And that's one thing 267 00:14:35,720 --> 00:14:38,040 Speaker 1: we talked about on the show is if that comment 268 00:14:38,120 --> 00:14:42,160 Speaker 1: gets made in Jacksonville, I mean that that probably doesn't 269 00:14:42,160 --> 00:14:46,600 Speaker 1: even make local sports page or local sports news. You know, 270 00:14:46,720 --> 00:14:49,840 Speaker 1: a practice squad guy for the Cowboy says that, and 271 00:14:49,880 --> 00:14:52,000 Speaker 1: all of a sudden it's on you know, it's on 272 00:14:52,120 --> 00:14:54,440 Speaker 1: national news and it's a two day story, not just 273 00:14:54,520 --> 00:14:57,880 Speaker 1: one news cycle. We're still talking about it. So that's 274 00:14:58,240 --> 00:15:01,800 Speaker 1: that's just the power of of the Dallas Cowboys is 275 00:15:01,800 --> 00:15:04,400 Speaker 1: they're always going to be a story. They're always going 276 00:15:04,480 --> 00:15:07,440 Speaker 1: to be in the news. And hey, ownership likes that. 277 00:15:07,640 --> 00:15:10,960 Speaker 1: Ownership loves to be you know, they love for the 278 00:15:11,000 --> 00:15:13,800 Speaker 1: Cowboys name to be talked about. So I mean that's 279 00:15:13,840 --> 00:15:17,120 Speaker 1: something that's you know, any news is good news, right, 280 00:15:17,360 --> 00:15:19,960 Speaker 1: Any news is good news, and being being top of 281 00:15:20,000 --> 00:15:22,880 Speaker 1: mind and being in the conversation is a good thing 282 00:15:22,920 --> 00:15:25,360 Speaker 1: around here. So that's you know, Jesse talk a little 283 00:15:25,400 --> 00:15:27,960 Speaker 1: bit about that. You've been to a couple of different stops, Cincinnati, 284 00:15:28,720 --> 00:15:30,440 Speaker 1: you know, New England. We've talked about it on the 285 00:15:30,440 --> 00:15:34,600 Speaker 1: show before. But just does that as a player, does 286 00:15:34,720 --> 00:15:38,320 Speaker 1: that affect your mentality or the way you do your 287 00:15:38,360 --> 00:15:41,160 Speaker 1: business when you come here and the light is so bright, 288 00:15:41,440 --> 00:15:45,800 Speaker 1: and I know, obviously after football there's opportunities during the season, 289 00:15:45,840 --> 00:15:49,720 Speaker 1: there's opportunities for shows and things like that, But does 290 00:15:49,800 --> 00:15:53,000 Speaker 1: it does it affect you, I guess kind of your 291 00:15:53,240 --> 00:15:56,680 Speaker 1: persona or your personality or the way you go about 292 00:15:56,680 --> 00:16:00,640 Speaker 1: your your business off the field, whenever you're exposed to 293 00:16:00,760 --> 00:16:06,160 Speaker 1: the brand and the star. We talked about this a 294 00:16:06,160 --> 00:16:09,320 Speaker 1: little bit last year, and you guys had Mike Fisher 295 00:16:09,440 --> 00:16:11,280 Speaker 1: on your show last night. I guess he kind of 296 00:16:11,280 --> 00:16:14,400 Speaker 1: like coined this phrase, was you know, fifty three brands 297 00:16:15,400 --> 00:16:19,760 Speaker 1: and with that is that you know? Even when I 298 00:16:19,880 --> 00:16:22,000 Speaker 1: was when I first came to the Cowboys my first 299 00:16:22,080 --> 00:16:24,200 Speaker 1: year the Cowboys, I did the entire year on the 300 00:16:24,240 --> 00:16:27,480 Speaker 1: practice squad. Now I'm coming off a show, and that 301 00:16:27,560 --> 00:16:30,640 Speaker 1: offseason I made about thirty five to forty five thousand 302 00:16:30,640 --> 00:16:35,240 Speaker 1: dollars and autograph signings. I didn't play one down. I 303 00:16:35,280 --> 00:16:39,480 Speaker 1: didn't play one down. Wow, Like, think about that for 304 00:16:39,520 --> 00:16:41,960 Speaker 1: a second. My first year here, two thousand and nine, 305 00:16:42,440 --> 00:16:44,520 Speaker 1: after coming from the show, I was on the practice 306 00:16:44,520 --> 00:16:47,920 Speaker 1: squad the entire year. I did not play one down. 307 00:16:48,400 --> 00:16:52,360 Speaker 1: And I'm not exaggerating. It was a smooth thirty to 308 00:16:52,480 --> 00:16:55,000 Speaker 1: forty five thousand dollars that I made that offseason and 309 00:16:55,160 --> 00:17:00,240 Speaker 1: autograph signings and appearances. Now you know reality TV star, 310 00:17:00,560 --> 00:17:02,760 Speaker 1: So I get it. I get it. But I didn't 311 00:17:02,760 --> 00:17:05,919 Speaker 1: play one down. Like I didn't play one snap. But 312 00:17:05,920 --> 00:17:09,760 Speaker 1: I didn't play one snap at all, And the request 313 00:17:09,880 --> 00:17:12,439 Speaker 1: was still there the people still wanted to be and 314 00:17:12,520 --> 00:17:15,560 Speaker 1: to meet and to have it. It was easy. It 315 00:17:15,640 --> 00:17:18,560 Speaker 1: was easy money. But that just gives you a small 316 00:17:18,600 --> 00:17:22,159 Speaker 1: example of what Dallas is. Everybody has shows. And then 317 00:17:22,280 --> 00:17:25,720 Speaker 1: I went to New England. It was nothing like that. 318 00:17:25,800 --> 00:17:28,959 Speaker 1: And I remember a conversation that Bill Belichick had and 319 00:17:28,960 --> 00:17:31,560 Speaker 1: we always and we always bring this up. You know, 320 00:17:31,600 --> 00:17:34,040 Speaker 1: we always do the comparison of what you know, the 321 00:17:34,080 --> 00:17:36,920 Speaker 1: Patriots do. And I do this because to me, they're 322 00:17:36,920 --> 00:17:40,080 Speaker 1: the gold standard right there, They're the roles of the 323 00:17:40,160 --> 00:17:44,359 Speaker 1: National Football League. They're they're the you know, the Mercedes bins. 324 00:17:44,480 --> 00:17:48,440 Speaker 1: Right everything is compared to the best. And I remember 325 00:17:48,560 --> 00:17:51,720 Speaker 1: sitting in the meeting and kind of almost just like 326 00:17:51,760 --> 00:17:55,720 Speaker 1: housekeeping stuff. And Bill Belichick said, you know, he goes listen. 327 00:17:56,720 --> 00:18:01,840 Speaker 1: Once September comes, you belong to me. I don't want 328 00:18:01,840 --> 00:18:06,600 Speaker 1: to see mall appearances. I don't want to see club appearances, 329 00:18:06,960 --> 00:18:11,840 Speaker 1: I don't want to see autograph signings. From September to February. 330 00:18:12,119 --> 00:18:16,879 Speaker 1: You will belong to me. Anything that is not approved 331 00:18:16,920 --> 00:18:21,400 Speaker 1: by me, you will pay the punishment for it. So 332 00:18:21,480 --> 00:18:23,600 Speaker 1: like if you're going to do commercials and all that 333 00:18:23,680 --> 00:18:27,080 Speaker 1: kind of stuff. And the prime example was look at Grunk. 334 00:18:28,160 --> 00:18:31,800 Speaker 1: Grunk did all his wild and crazy stuff win in 335 00:18:32,000 --> 00:18:36,399 Speaker 1: the off season. During the season, you never occurred from Gronk. 336 00:18:36,680 --> 00:18:40,280 Speaker 1: You never saw Gronk. Why is that? That was the 337 00:18:40,400 --> 00:18:46,200 Speaker 1: Bill Belichick effect? And it was come September where it's 338 00:18:46,280 --> 00:18:48,920 Speaker 1: nothing but football. I don't want to hear about commercials. 339 00:18:48,960 --> 00:18:51,440 Speaker 1: I don't want to hear about appearances. I don't want 340 00:18:51,440 --> 00:18:54,600 Speaker 1: to Why have we've never We've never seen or heard 341 00:18:54,640 --> 00:18:56,920 Speaker 1: anything when the New England picks go on a bye 342 00:18:56,920 --> 00:19:01,800 Speaker 1: week about anyone going anywhere doing nothing? Never never, If 343 00:19:01,800 --> 00:19:04,000 Speaker 1: you know, the only person who did a weekly radio 344 00:19:04,080 --> 00:19:06,800 Speaker 1: show was Tom Brady when he did you know what 345 00:19:06,800 --> 00:19:08,760 Speaker 1: what he had the national one that he would do 346 00:19:09,240 --> 00:19:12,600 Speaker 1: um then but again if it wasn't approved by Bill Belichick. 347 00:19:13,119 --> 00:19:15,879 Speaker 1: So there wasn't the middle of the mall autograph signings, 348 00:19:16,200 --> 00:19:20,879 Speaker 1: there wasn't the club appearances and and and in that city. 349 00:19:21,560 --> 00:19:24,320 Speaker 1: Bill was so connected that you know, stuff would get 350 00:19:24,359 --> 00:19:27,080 Speaker 1: back to him. And what you didn't want was stuff 351 00:19:27,119 --> 00:19:29,639 Speaker 1: to get back to him because he didn't care who 352 00:19:29,680 --> 00:19:32,720 Speaker 1: you were. You were going to pay the penalty for it. 353 00:19:32,720 --> 00:19:34,760 Speaker 1: And it was the media pressure, though it's intense. I 354 00:19:34,800 --> 00:19:38,000 Speaker 1: would think Boston media would be it's intense. It is here. 355 00:19:38,080 --> 00:19:41,480 Speaker 1: But yeah, but but but it was it's still that's 356 00:19:41,560 --> 00:19:44,200 Speaker 1: the culture that Bill Bellows are created. Like, I don't 357 00:19:44,200 --> 00:19:47,160 Speaker 1: care what the media pressure says, here's what we're going 358 00:19:47,200 --> 00:19:49,600 Speaker 1: to do. If you're not going to be one hundred 359 00:19:49,640 --> 00:19:51,880 Speaker 1: percent committed to what we're doing here in the building 360 00:19:52,640 --> 00:19:54,440 Speaker 1: or you know, and then you and then your family, 361 00:19:54,720 --> 00:19:56,800 Speaker 1: then this is not a team for you. You know. 362 00:19:58,040 --> 00:20:00,240 Speaker 1: And it didn't matter who it was. It did didn't 363 00:20:00,240 --> 00:20:02,560 Speaker 1: matter who it was. You know, Antonio Brown, he got 364 00:20:02,640 --> 00:20:05,080 Speaker 1: rid of Antonio Brown in eleven days. He was like, yeah, 365 00:20:05,119 --> 00:20:07,320 Speaker 1: you got a great time, But I told you just 366 00:20:07,400 --> 00:20:09,840 Speaker 1: stay off the internet and don't talk about so and 367 00:20:09,840 --> 00:20:12,879 Speaker 1: so and so and so you did otherwise you gotta go. 368 00:20:13,880 --> 00:20:19,479 Speaker 1: And and that's the difference. Uh. Where here it's fifty 369 00:20:19,480 --> 00:20:22,320 Speaker 1: three brands. Everybody has their own thing to do. Everybody 370 00:20:22,359 --> 00:20:24,440 Speaker 1: has their own brand, Everybody has their own thing that 371 00:20:24,480 --> 00:20:26,919 Speaker 1: they're trying to promote and sell. And I get it. 372 00:20:26,960 --> 00:20:30,280 Speaker 1: I understand it. Shoot, you know, while you hot, you hot, 373 00:20:30,680 --> 00:20:33,199 Speaker 1: monetize it, do what you gotta do. But it's just 374 00:20:33,200 --> 00:20:35,560 Speaker 1: a it's just a different place that you just don't know. 375 00:20:35,880 --> 00:20:38,120 Speaker 1: I mean, in Cincinnati, nobody wanted to be nobody want 376 00:20:38,119 --> 00:20:45,480 Speaker 1: to hit an All right, let's take our first break fellas. 377 00:20:45,520 --> 00:20:48,280 Speaker 1: When we come back, let's talk about this game in 378 00:20:48,440 --> 00:20:52,199 Speaker 1: Washington against that football team that has not yet been named. 379 00:20:52,720 --> 00:20:56,560 Speaker 1: Maybe the last segment will play a little uh fun 380 00:20:56,960 --> 00:20:59,800 Speaker 1: question roulette with Chris Beam. Maybe we'll get him involved 381 00:20:59,840 --> 00:21:02,159 Speaker 1: in the show. 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So these two teams, 444 00:24:41,560 --> 00:24:46,560 Speaker 1: the Cowboys and the Washington football team, have a lot 445 00:24:46,600 --> 00:24:51,440 Speaker 1: of similarities, but on opposite sides of the ball. So 446 00:24:51,560 --> 00:24:55,720 Speaker 1: Washington's offensive line is ranked twenty eight in run block 447 00:24:55,960 --> 00:25:00,080 Speaker 1: by Football Outsiders. Thanks for that info, Kurt, And and 448 00:25:00,760 --> 00:25:04,439 Speaker 1: they have the worst running game in the NFL. You know, 449 00:25:04,520 --> 00:25:07,640 Speaker 1: the Cowboys arguably have one of the best passing games 450 00:25:07,840 --> 00:25:11,240 Speaker 1: in the NFL up until this past week, but their 451 00:25:11,280 --> 00:25:16,040 Speaker 1: defense is terrible. So I mean, is this a team, Jesse, 452 00:25:16,160 --> 00:25:20,720 Speaker 1: Do you think we can that Cowboys can finally stop 453 00:25:20,800 --> 00:25:26,920 Speaker 1: a team by just share a team that's worse than 454 00:25:26,960 --> 00:25:28,399 Speaker 1: they are on the other side of the ball for 455 00:25:28,480 --> 00:25:31,639 Speaker 1: the defense. Do you think this is the week this 456 00:25:31,800 --> 00:25:34,200 Speaker 1: could fix everything that ails us or is it gonna 457 00:25:34,240 --> 00:25:40,600 Speaker 1: be the other way around where we fix everything like that? 458 00:25:40,600 --> 00:25:44,119 Speaker 1: That's the part that still lingers in my mind is 459 00:25:44,160 --> 00:25:50,240 Speaker 1: that we gave the awful New York Giants thirty four points. 460 00:25:51,080 --> 00:25:53,359 Speaker 1: Now you can say, you can say, let's take seven 461 00:25:53,400 --> 00:25:56,119 Speaker 1: off of the pick six. We gave the Giants twenty 462 00:25:56,119 --> 00:26:00,800 Speaker 1: eight points. Okay, like the Giants, you gave up more 463 00:26:00,840 --> 00:26:05,040 Speaker 1: than they've been averaging every game and the first damnitor 464 00:26:05,080 --> 00:26:12,040 Speaker 1: the first quarter, right, and so like that's a thought 465 00:26:12,080 --> 00:26:14,119 Speaker 1: that kind of sits in the back of my mind, 466 00:26:14,640 --> 00:26:18,680 Speaker 1: and then I start to think about Hm. I believe 467 00:26:19,200 --> 00:26:21,760 Speaker 1: Ron Rivera is a decent head coach, is a good 468 00:26:21,800 --> 00:26:24,720 Speaker 1: football head coach, and he's going to try to get 469 00:26:24,800 --> 00:26:28,000 Speaker 1: things fixed as best he can. That's why he went 470 00:26:28,080 --> 00:26:32,399 Speaker 1: to the move with Kyle Allen. Um. I gotta be 471 00:26:32,440 --> 00:26:34,800 Speaker 1: totally honest with you. I have to be totally honest 472 00:26:34,840 --> 00:26:38,119 Speaker 1: with you. I don't see me picking the Cowboys to 473 00:26:38,200 --> 00:26:43,240 Speaker 1: win another football game like for a while, and that's 474 00:26:43,240 --> 00:26:46,480 Speaker 1: that's a bad place to be. But I just like 475 00:26:46,600 --> 00:26:49,080 Speaker 1: I try to find ways to say, Okay, where can 476 00:26:49,160 --> 00:26:51,679 Speaker 1: this team win a football game? Out like, where can 477 00:26:51,760 --> 00:26:56,000 Speaker 1: this team have a distinct advantage where I'm comfortable enough 478 00:26:56,000 --> 00:26:59,320 Speaker 1: with going against saying oh, yeah, we're gonna dominate that 479 00:26:59,400 --> 00:27:05,520 Speaker 1: area of game. I don't see it. Defensively, We're now 480 00:27:05,640 --> 00:27:08,960 Speaker 1: talking about now being to our third string worth the 481 00:27:09,000 --> 00:27:13,159 Speaker 1: backups offensively on the offensive line. And I know that 482 00:27:13,280 --> 00:27:15,680 Speaker 1: Zeke is working through his things, but I do think 483 00:27:16,080 --> 00:27:18,439 Speaker 1: this is going to bother him mentally, like you're going 484 00:27:18,480 --> 00:27:21,199 Speaker 1: to see a different type of runner in Zeke for 485 00:27:21,240 --> 00:27:23,920 Speaker 1: a little while. And then I think about the one 486 00:27:23,920 --> 00:27:26,960 Speaker 1: advantage that we may have is in our receivers. But 487 00:27:27,080 --> 00:27:28,960 Speaker 1: then I say, well, how will he get him the 488 00:27:28,960 --> 00:27:31,720 Speaker 1: ball right? Will he hold the ball too long? And 489 00:27:31,880 --> 00:27:35,160 Speaker 1: I think to myself, what can we do at anywhere 490 00:27:35,240 --> 00:27:39,159 Speaker 1: across the board to give ourselves a significant advantage? And 491 00:27:39,359 --> 00:27:44,520 Speaker 1: I struggle finding it because we're just so deficient in 492 00:27:44,600 --> 00:27:47,560 Speaker 1: so many different areas across the board, and It makes 493 00:27:47,560 --> 00:27:51,440 Speaker 1: it it makes it tough to even evaluate a team 494 00:27:51,480 --> 00:27:54,160 Speaker 1: like this. It makes it tough to even say where 495 00:27:54,200 --> 00:27:57,040 Speaker 1: are we going to hang our hat at because nobody knows, 496 00:27:57,160 --> 00:27:59,119 Speaker 1: they don't know what the We thought that at the 497 00:27:59,160 --> 00:28:00,919 Speaker 1: end of this team was run in the football and 498 00:28:01,320 --> 00:28:04,119 Speaker 1: we can't do that, right. I think Zeke's averaging like 499 00:28:04,240 --> 00:28:08,560 Speaker 1: less than seventy five yards a game? What right we think? 500 00:28:08,600 --> 00:28:11,160 Speaker 1: You know, hey, it was passing the ball? Well, Dad, 501 00:28:11,320 --> 00:28:14,280 Speaker 1: who still needs the league in passing yards even even 502 00:28:14,280 --> 00:28:17,920 Speaker 1: though he didn't play last week? Well as can any 503 00:28:17,960 --> 00:28:19,959 Speaker 1: Dalton get the ball to the ruppings that they need 504 00:28:19,960 --> 00:28:24,440 Speaker 1: to get to because we can't block up the defensive 505 00:28:24,520 --> 00:28:27,600 Speaker 1: front a long enough for anything to do pass five 506 00:28:27,640 --> 00:28:30,359 Speaker 1: to eight yards. So it's just it's it's it's gonna 507 00:28:30,400 --> 00:28:32,960 Speaker 1: be a tough game to watch, and it's a tough 508 00:28:33,000 --> 00:28:35,080 Speaker 1: it's a tough game to evaluate and try to predict 509 00:28:35,359 --> 00:28:39,880 Speaker 1: what's going to be happen positive for this football team. Yeah, 510 00:28:39,920 --> 00:28:43,640 Speaker 1: I don't see how Like I think the most of 511 00:28:43,680 --> 00:28:48,400 Speaker 1: the you know, the Washington's ground game is up the middle. 512 00:28:48,400 --> 00:28:50,040 Speaker 1: I mean, they just want to pound it three there 513 00:28:50,040 --> 00:28:53,760 Speaker 1: and that's our maybe weakest spot is our defensive line. Middle. 514 00:28:53,800 --> 00:28:56,880 Speaker 1: So you know, if I'm Washington, not just do the 515 00:28:56,920 --> 00:28:59,640 Speaker 1: same thing everybody else has been doing, just hammering in 516 00:28:59,720 --> 00:29:03,239 Speaker 1: there and prove you can stop it. And I don't know, 517 00:29:03,680 --> 00:29:06,600 Speaker 1: I'm kind of unfortunately fallen in line with Jesse in 518 00:29:06,680 --> 00:29:08,320 Speaker 1: that it's gonna be hard to pick them to win 519 00:29:08,560 --> 00:29:15,680 Speaker 1: until you see some kind of life out of this team. 520 00:29:13,480 --> 00:29:18,600 Speaker 1: M I bring it back, finger back around, Channing, give 521 00:29:18,640 --> 00:29:21,400 Speaker 1: us something positive going to beat this team, you know, 522 00:29:22,840 --> 00:29:24,560 Speaker 1: I mean the way you beat this team. I think 523 00:29:24,640 --> 00:29:26,760 Speaker 1: it's simple this week, to be honest with you, I 524 00:29:26,840 --> 00:29:30,959 Speaker 1: think you got two bad football teams that are struggling 525 00:29:31,520 --> 00:29:35,640 Speaker 1: that don't really I mean, you've got an identity, but 526 00:29:35,720 --> 00:29:37,800 Speaker 1: it's kind of a vague identity because I think the 527 00:29:37,840 --> 00:29:43,000 Speaker 1: Cowboys identity is the offense. Nothing you're doing specifically right 528 00:29:43,040 --> 00:29:47,520 Speaker 1: now is the identity of the offense. I think, Washington, 529 00:29:47,720 --> 00:29:51,840 Speaker 1: the identity that team is obviously the defense, but nothing 530 00:29:51,880 --> 00:29:54,840 Speaker 1: really specific the front seven is I guess the identity there. 531 00:29:55,480 --> 00:29:58,640 Speaker 1: You got two teams that are struggling. I think whoever 532 00:29:58,680 --> 00:30:01,840 Speaker 1: wins the turnover battle, because if you fix the turnover 533 00:30:01,880 --> 00:30:05,320 Speaker 1: battle on the Cowboy side, like you probably win one 534 00:30:05,400 --> 00:30:07,640 Speaker 1: or two more games. And the two games that you 535 00:30:07,680 --> 00:30:11,560 Speaker 1: won aren't even in question. You you you you beat 536 00:30:11,600 --> 00:30:15,960 Speaker 1: those teams. So I think as bad as these teams are, 537 00:30:16,360 --> 00:30:19,200 Speaker 1: whoever wins, if you wind up at the end of 538 00:30:19,240 --> 00:30:22,719 Speaker 1: this game in the positive on the turnover battle, I 539 00:30:22,760 --> 00:30:25,920 Speaker 1: think you win this game. So hang on to the ball. Now, 540 00:30:26,520 --> 00:30:30,239 Speaker 1: that's if you can keep Andy Dalton upright, if they 541 00:30:30,360 --> 00:30:32,520 Speaker 1: come up with a little bit of a scheme to 542 00:30:32,600 --> 00:30:34,680 Speaker 1: get the ball out quicker. Because if you and see 543 00:30:34,920 --> 00:30:38,000 Speaker 1: and see, and that's and that's my and that's my dilemma. 544 00:30:38,160 --> 00:30:40,000 Speaker 1: I look at it and say, okay, let's take our 545 00:30:40,040 --> 00:30:42,120 Speaker 1: two head coaches, and let's look at them as being 546 00:30:42,440 --> 00:30:47,960 Speaker 1: like two assassins, two like top level assassins. Right, you 547 00:30:48,080 --> 00:30:51,000 Speaker 1: got Mike McCarthey, who is an offensive an assassin, and 548 00:30:51,040 --> 00:30:53,960 Speaker 1: then you got uh Ron Rivera, who's in a defensive 549 00:30:53,960 --> 00:30:58,920 Speaker 1: assassin right river Boat run, He love him. And so 550 00:30:59,280 --> 00:31:04,040 Speaker 1: my thing with that is is if Mike's weapon of 551 00:31:04,240 --> 00:31:10,280 Speaker 1: choice is going to be offensive and Riverboat Ron's weapon 552 00:31:10,400 --> 00:31:15,760 Speaker 1: of choice is going to be defensive, which which one 553 00:31:15,800 --> 00:31:23,520 Speaker 1: of these two has the best equipped combat gun to 554 00:31:23,520 --> 00:31:26,760 Speaker 1: to finish the job. And when you look at it, 555 00:31:26,840 --> 00:31:31,160 Speaker 1: what they have defensively in Washington upfront with all those 556 00:31:31,200 --> 00:31:33,320 Speaker 1: guys in the front seven and hold Comb and other 557 00:31:33,320 --> 00:31:38,200 Speaker 1: guys at their linebacker. There, they are better equipped and 558 00:31:38,360 --> 00:31:43,080 Speaker 1: more healthy to win at what their coach is good 559 00:31:43,080 --> 00:31:46,480 Speaker 1: at opposed to what we have and what our coach 560 00:31:46,640 --> 00:31:49,240 Speaker 1: is good at. If you told me I had Dak, 561 00:31:49,520 --> 00:31:52,360 Speaker 1: then I'm like, let's go right, I will figure it out. 562 00:31:52,640 --> 00:31:55,120 Speaker 1: But now that we have Andy, we have the backup 563 00:31:55,160 --> 00:31:58,400 Speaker 1: to the backup to the backup plane, and our strength 564 00:31:58,480 --> 00:32:02,480 Speaker 1: is offense. We you don't have enough of the bullets 565 00:32:03,480 --> 00:32:06,920 Speaker 1: to do it offensively opposed to what they do well, 566 00:32:07,360 --> 00:32:10,240 Speaker 1: and they have their bullets there. So like that's the 567 00:32:10,240 --> 00:32:12,600 Speaker 1: part when I look at it and I go, Okay, yes, 568 00:32:12,640 --> 00:32:16,240 Speaker 1: we're both deficiental each side of the ball. But if 569 00:32:16,240 --> 00:32:19,080 Speaker 1: it came down to having to hang your hat on 570 00:32:19,080 --> 00:32:24,280 Speaker 1: one thing, the football team of Washington with that front, 571 00:32:24,440 --> 00:32:28,040 Speaker 1: that front line, that front defensive line, that front seven, 572 00:32:28,360 --> 00:32:31,400 Speaker 1: they are more equipped to go into battle and win 573 00:32:31,480 --> 00:32:34,360 Speaker 1: with that, with that style and their head coach than 574 00:32:34,440 --> 00:32:38,480 Speaker 1: we are with ours and what we have available. Yeah, 575 00:32:38,560 --> 00:32:42,880 Speaker 1: and Kurt, to answer your question, the one thing I 576 00:32:42,880 --> 00:32:45,240 Speaker 1: think that gives me a little bit of hope, not 577 00:32:45,360 --> 00:32:49,240 Speaker 1: a lot, but kind of reinforced it last night talking 578 00:32:49,280 --> 00:32:52,520 Speaker 1: to Dad Win was you know, he thinks that this 579 00:32:52,680 --> 00:32:55,840 Speaker 1: defense is going to progressively get better. He thinks some 580 00:32:55,880 --> 00:32:59,360 Speaker 1: of the issues of what you're hearing, the communication and 581 00:32:59,400 --> 00:33:02,320 Speaker 1: then people's saying the coaches, you know, don't know how 582 00:33:02,320 --> 00:33:08,640 Speaker 1: to coach, that that's a byproduct of them changing the system, 583 00:33:08,760 --> 00:33:12,920 Speaker 1: changing the scheme, and not being able to spend that 584 00:33:13,000 --> 00:33:16,040 Speaker 1: time together at the beginning of the year. He thinks 585 00:33:16,080 --> 00:33:18,400 Speaker 1: that's gonna work itself out as you go. Now, will 586 00:33:18,440 --> 00:33:20,440 Speaker 1: it be too late by the time it starts clicking? 587 00:33:20,600 --> 00:33:23,120 Speaker 1: Is that this game? Is that the next game? Is 588 00:33:23,120 --> 00:33:25,240 Speaker 1: that four games from now? Is that the last couple 589 00:33:25,240 --> 00:33:27,280 Speaker 1: of games of the season. I guess that's going to 590 00:33:27,360 --> 00:33:30,320 Speaker 1: be the million dollar question. But you know, and that's 591 00:33:30,360 --> 00:33:32,160 Speaker 1: another thing we brought up on the show last night. 592 00:33:32,240 --> 00:33:34,560 Speaker 1: Didn't this coaching staff tell us at the beginning of 593 00:33:34,600 --> 00:33:38,520 Speaker 1: the season that they weren't changing the scheme, that they 594 00:33:38,600 --> 00:33:40,680 Speaker 1: may throw some different looks in there, but they were 595 00:33:40,680 --> 00:33:42,760 Speaker 1: still going to run the basically the same scheme. And 596 00:33:42,880 --> 00:33:46,920 Speaker 1: hasn't the scheme changed from from what they were running 597 00:33:47,000 --> 00:33:51,080 Speaker 1: last year On the defensive front, I think I know 598 00:33:51,160 --> 00:33:53,880 Speaker 1: that they MacCarthy in fact, I think he said yesterday 599 00:33:53,880 --> 00:33:57,280 Speaker 1: that they originally tried to add more to what was 600 00:33:57,360 --> 00:33:59,560 Speaker 1: done last year. They felt like, you know, it's just 601 00:33:59,600 --> 00:34:02,720 Speaker 1: too Nella the defense, which it was, but then in 602 00:34:02,760 --> 00:34:05,000 Speaker 1: week two they had to dial it back down and 603 00:34:05,040 --> 00:34:08,960 Speaker 1: make it and simplify it because you know, of the confusion, 604 00:34:09,000 --> 00:34:10,400 Speaker 1: they didn't have time to work on it in the 605 00:34:10,400 --> 00:34:13,520 Speaker 1: offseason and stuff. So yeah, I think you're right, Shannon, 606 00:34:13,560 --> 00:34:17,080 Speaker 1: And hopefully that's the cases that as they get more 607 00:34:17,160 --> 00:34:20,719 Speaker 1: time with these coaches, with the system, they'll they'll get better. 608 00:34:20,719 --> 00:34:22,319 Speaker 1: I mean they have to, right, they can't get worse. 609 00:34:22,360 --> 00:34:24,359 Speaker 1: And the more time they spend in it, so yeah, 610 00:34:24,360 --> 00:34:28,560 Speaker 1: they can't. We'll see they can like like, but they 611 00:34:28,640 --> 00:34:32,319 Speaker 1: actually can get worse, like you can. We're on a 612 00:34:32,440 --> 00:34:36,160 Speaker 1: historically bad pace as we talk about this defense right now. 613 00:34:36,520 --> 00:34:41,240 Speaker 1: They can they can get worse. And it doesn't help 614 00:34:41,320 --> 00:34:44,120 Speaker 1: when you have like the conversations come out of the 615 00:34:44,120 --> 00:34:47,399 Speaker 1: locker room about anonymous sources saying this that the third 616 00:34:47,440 --> 00:34:50,000 Speaker 1: about coaching and not coaching and teaching and not teaching 617 00:34:50,239 --> 00:34:53,560 Speaker 1: and so on and so forth. So it and and 618 00:34:53,640 --> 00:34:55,640 Speaker 1: the part where it hurts you is that you come 619 00:34:55,680 --> 00:34:57,680 Speaker 1: into this game and you're all route route and ready 620 00:34:57,800 --> 00:34:59,960 Speaker 1: ready to go. And then when they when they when 621 00:35:00,160 --> 00:35:02,680 Speaker 1: running back, gut you up the middle for a forty 622 00:35:02,680 --> 00:35:05,600 Speaker 1: five yard game. You know what happens, Guys start looking 623 00:35:05,640 --> 00:35:07,800 Speaker 1: around at one another saying up here we go again, 624 00:35:08,280 --> 00:35:10,399 Speaker 1: and you lose the fight in the fights knocked out 625 00:35:10,400 --> 00:35:12,080 Speaker 1: of you and the dogs knocked out of you. And 626 00:35:12,120 --> 00:35:16,080 Speaker 1: so yeah, things can actually get worse, Kurt, it can 627 00:35:17,440 --> 00:35:20,240 Speaker 1: and and if But the thing is, it only gets 628 00:35:20,320 --> 00:35:24,520 Speaker 1: worse if players allow it to get worse. Like that's 629 00:35:24,520 --> 00:35:27,000 Speaker 1: when the leadership comes in. Like that, that's the part 630 00:35:27,080 --> 00:35:30,279 Speaker 1: that I just want. I want the players to be 631 00:35:30,280 --> 00:35:33,120 Speaker 1: better in the sense of not just on the field 632 00:35:33,200 --> 00:35:35,919 Speaker 1: playing better. I just want them to be better as 633 00:35:35,920 --> 00:35:38,239 Speaker 1: far as leadership. I want them to be better as 634 00:35:38,280 --> 00:35:41,920 Speaker 1: far as you know, doing everything that you can, Like 635 00:35:42,000 --> 00:35:45,680 Speaker 1: don't I said it yesterday, don't just come with the problem, 636 00:35:46,239 --> 00:35:48,799 Speaker 1: like come with the problem and waves to work through 637 00:35:48,800 --> 00:35:51,640 Speaker 1: the solution, because you can't just come and say that 638 00:35:51,719 --> 00:35:55,960 Speaker 1: doesn't work or this ain't it and have nothing else 639 00:35:56,000 --> 00:35:58,120 Speaker 1: to show us, you know what I'm saying, Like, you 640 00:35:58,200 --> 00:36:01,239 Speaker 1: just can't do that because generally of personally going to 641 00:36:01,280 --> 00:36:03,600 Speaker 1: continue on with they're playing because they're saying well, what 642 00:36:03,640 --> 00:36:07,000 Speaker 1: solutions do you have? You gotta have some solutions, man. 643 00:36:07,120 --> 00:36:09,400 Speaker 1: And when I look at some of this stuff and 644 00:36:09,640 --> 00:36:12,680 Speaker 1: you watch the film, you're saying, Okay, you're telling me 645 00:36:12,760 --> 00:36:17,040 Speaker 1: our scheme doesn't work. But here it is. You simply 646 00:36:17,080 --> 00:36:19,720 Speaker 1: aren't getting off a block. Yeah, you know what I'm saying. 647 00:36:19,960 --> 00:36:23,000 Speaker 1: It's like, you can fix the effort. I mean, that's 648 00:36:23,000 --> 00:36:25,399 Speaker 1: something you can control, is your effort. It's like, hey, 649 00:36:25,480 --> 00:36:28,759 Speaker 1: if you got off the block, you actually would have 650 00:36:28,800 --> 00:36:32,040 Speaker 1: been there for the tackle. Or hey, if you actually 651 00:36:32,080 --> 00:36:35,839 Speaker 1: went up the field and not inside, it actually would 652 00:36:35,840 --> 00:36:40,040 Speaker 1: have worked. So that's the part that it just I 653 00:36:40,080 --> 00:36:43,000 Speaker 1: don't know, man, I don't know. Well, one thing I 654 00:36:43,120 --> 00:36:44,920 Speaker 1: do know is we have to take our last break 655 00:36:44,960 --> 00:36:47,279 Speaker 1: and when we come back, let's have some fun to 656 00:36:47,360 --> 00:36:50,520 Speaker 1: last segment. Let's do something we've never done before. Let's 657 00:36:50,560 --> 00:36:55,359 Speaker 1: have fun with Chris Bean. You're fired now, might We're 658 00:36:55,360 --> 00:36:58,359 Speaker 1: gonna let Chris Bean throw a little question roulette at us. 659 00:36:58,640 --> 00:37:01,800 Speaker 1: Stay tuned, figure out. Nothing's off the table. It doesn't 660 00:37:01,800 --> 00:37:05,160 Speaker 1: even have to be football. Let's go next segment, hanging 661 00:37:05,200 --> 00:37:08,040 Speaker 1: with the boys. We'll be right back. 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Yeah, you know what next next time we 726 00:40:59,160 --> 00:41:01,000 Speaker 1: all go to dinner to Yeah, we'll just leave that 727 00:41:01,239 --> 00:41:06,600 Speaker 1: ten dollars extra tip that there we go. We'll give back. 728 00:41:06,640 --> 00:41:10,440 Speaker 1: We'll give back Chris Bean like you got four you 729 00:41:10,520 --> 00:41:13,680 Speaker 1: got four minutes. Have at it. Whatever you want to 730 00:41:13,719 --> 00:41:17,040 Speaker 1: ask us and we have to answer. Okay, take it away, Chris. 731 00:41:17,400 --> 00:41:20,719 Speaker 1: Questions for you, Shannon. Okay, the first question is you 732 00:41:20,719 --> 00:41:25,320 Speaker 1: you know you started uh um basically Dallas Cowboys, Facebook 733 00:41:25,320 --> 00:41:30,439 Speaker 1: and all that from scratch. Okay, correct? Yeah, So does 734 00:41:30,480 --> 00:41:33,120 Speaker 1: that keep you up at night sometimes? I mean just 735 00:41:33,200 --> 00:41:37,399 Speaker 1: by like, you know, to this what progress from back 736 00:41:37,400 --> 00:41:40,319 Speaker 1: in the days. So now you just shocked because I 737 00:41:40,320 --> 00:41:46,560 Speaker 1: mean you've you started it, um, you know I don't 738 00:41:46,600 --> 00:41:49,520 Speaker 1: really think about it a lot. When we first when 739 00:41:49,520 --> 00:41:52,000 Speaker 1: I first moved over from the merch side to head 740 00:41:52,080 --> 00:41:54,880 Speaker 1: up or start our social media department, it basically it 741 00:41:54,920 --> 00:41:56,759 Speaker 1: was just Twitter and Facebook and it was just an 742 00:41:56,840 --> 00:42:00,560 Speaker 1: RSS feed, so it was just a straight news feed copy. 743 00:42:00,600 --> 00:42:02,360 Speaker 1: And now it's kind of we were one of the 744 00:42:02,360 --> 00:42:04,680 Speaker 1: first teams to ever have a full time person running 745 00:42:04,760 --> 00:42:07,759 Speaker 1: social media. And just to you know, I have the 746 00:42:07,920 --> 00:42:10,200 Speaker 1: privilege about once a year to speak to you know, 747 00:42:10,320 --> 00:42:13,640 Speaker 1: different classes like an SMU and things like that, and 748 00:42:13,680 --> 00:42:17,399 Speaker 1: just to every year to see the presentation that I give, 749 00:42:18,360 --> 00:42:22,279 Speaker 1: progress and develop in all the new technologies and the 750 00:42:22,280 --> 00:42:25,600 Speaker 1: new platforms to go from where we were about nine 751 00:42:25,680 --> 00:42:29,080 Speaker 1: years ago. And nine years really isn't that long that 752 00:42:29,239 --> 00:42:31,840 Speaker 1: long of a time to go from nine years of 753 00:42:32,280 --> 00:42:35,120 Speaker 1: where social media started to where it is now and 754 00:42:35,160 --> 00:42:38,120 Speaker 1: then if you can project and you know, to what's 755 00:42:38,120 --> 00:42:41,000 Speaker 1: going to happen in the future, it's it doesn't really 756 00:42:41,040 --> 00:42:44,319 Speaker 1: keep me up at night, but it's it's amazing how 757 00:42:44,400 --> 00:42:49,399 Speaker 1: fast technology has moved, because it seems like the previous 758 00:42:49,440 --> 00:42:52,560 Speaker 1: thirty years everything was you know, kind of in print 759 00:42:52,680 --> 00:42:55,239 Speaker 1: and you had to read books and magazines, and then 760 00:42:55,239 --> 00:42:58,279 Speaker 1: the Internet came along, and then the social media was 761 00:42:58,360 --> 00:43:00,520 Speaker 1: kind of like the reinvention of the Internet. And since 762 00:43:01,280 --> 00:43:05,080 Speaker 1: since that happened, it's just things had moved so fast 763 00:43:05,160 --> 00:43:08,120 Speaker 1: and so quickly that it's you know, I feel like 764 00:43:08,160 --> 00:43:10,799 Speaker 1: the old guy in the room now whenever we start 765 00:43:10,880 --> 00:43:13,319 Speaker 1: talking about all these strategies and everything, just because it's 766 00:43:13,360 --> 00:43:17,040 Speaker 1: moving so fast, and you know, there's TikTok and snapchat 767 00:43:17,040 --> 00:43:20,319 Speaker 1: and Instagram and Instagram stories and all that stuff. So 768 00:43:20,680 --> 00:43:22,920 Speaker 1: it doesn't keep me up at night, but it amazes 769 00:43:23,000 --> 00:43:25,960 Speaker 1: me how far it's come in such a short period 770 00:43:26,000 --> 00:43:29,000 Speaker 1: of time. All Right, So my next questions for Jesse, 771 00:43:30,520 --> 00:43:32,680 Speaker 1: So I know, I know what the best part of 772 00:43:32,719 --> 00:43:36,000 Speaker 1: fourth and Long was. It's probably getting on the team 773 00:43:36,040 --> 00:43:46,560 Speaker 1: making that check. What was the worst part of fourth Alarm? Oh, 774 00:43:46,600 --> 00:43:49,000 Speaker 1: this is the two part answer. The worst part was 775 00:43:49,640 --> 00:43:53,359 Speaker 1: just being away from everything because they took away our 776 00:43:53,360 --> 00:44:00,760 Speaker 1: cell phones, our TV, radio, iPads, internet, like we had nothing, nothing, 777 00:44:01,280 --> 00:44:03,759 Speaker 1: and so we had to get like scores of like 778 00:44:04,560 --> 00:44:07,719 Speaker 1: the NCAA tournament from the security guards when they would 779 00:44:07,760 --> 00:44:09,600 Speaker 1: switch out, like hey man, you can give us a 780 00:44:09,640 --> 00:44:11,320 Speaker 1: run out of the scores today. So that was the 781 00:44:11,360 --> 00:44:13,880 Speaker 1: worst part. You couldn't call your family, be around your friends, 782 00:44:14,280 --> 00:44:16,400 Speaker 1: be around your loved ones, or any of that. For 783 00:44:16,480 --> 00:44:21,799 Speaker 1: two months, it was like literally like jail. But the worst, 784 00:44:21,840 --> 00:44:27,359 Speaker 1: the worst to me, the worst thing that we had 785 00:44:27,400 --> 00:44:30,600 Speaker 1: to do while we were there was one night they 786 00:44:30,680 --> 00:44:34,040 Speaker 1: took us to a field in South Dallas and they 787 00:44:34,080 --> 00:44:39,200 Speaker 1: had churned this field upside down, turned this field upside down, 788 00:44:39,239 --> 00:44:41,600 Speaker 1: and then they had the rain trucks and they had 789 00:44:41,680 --> 00:44:45,040 Speaker 1: muddy this feel up. And we shot this episode at 790 00:44:45,040 --> 00:44:48,960 Speaker 1: about two or three o'clock in the morning. No imagine 791 00:44:49,040 --> 00:44:51,279 Speaker 1: we're shooting this episode at two or three o'clock in 792 00:44:51,280 --> 00:44:55,000 Speaker 1: the morning. And the drill is you have. It's a 793 00:44:55,080 --> 00:44:58,600 Speaker 1: gauntlet drill. You gotta hold two footballs and guys get 794 00:44:58,640 --> 00:45:02,000 Speaker 1: a chance. It's three levels. It's two defenders, two defenders, 795 00:45:02,280 --> 00:45:05,560 Speaker 1: one defender, and you have to run through there without 796 00:45:05,719 --> 00:45:09,879 Speaker 1: fumbling either one of these footballs. If you do, you get, 797 00:45:09,920 --> 00:45:13,680 Speaker 1: you know, you get. That's a point against you. And 798 00:45:13,840 --> 00:45:20,200 Speaker 1: it's probably about forty degrees outside. It's cold as hell, 799 00:45:21,719 --> 00:45:27,680 Speaker 1: and you're soaking wet, you're covered in mud. And you know, 800 00:45:28,480 --> 00:45:31,000 Speaker 1: if you know about shooting episodes like this, it ain't 801 00:45:31,040 --> 00:45:33,799 Speaker 1: a ten fifteen in the episode. You may see it 802 00:45:33,880 --> 00:45:36,840 Speaker 1: in a ten or fifteen minute span, but it takes 803 00:45:36,920 --> 00:45:39,560 Speaker 1: us four or five, six, seven eight hours to actually 804 00:45:39,600 --> 00:45:42,520 Speaker 1: shoot ten or fifteen minutes what you see on actual TV. 805 00:45:43,000 --> 00:45:45,480 Speaker 1: So we're out there for about five, I mean five 806 00:45:45,560 --> 00:45:48,880 Speaker 1: to seven hours in this mud, going over and over, 807 00:45:49,000 --> 00:45:51,759 Speaker 1: and I mean we're covered from mud from head to toe. 808 00:45:51,800 --> 00:45:55,600 Speaker 1: We're soaking wet, and it's like forty degrees outside, we're shivering, 809 00:45:55,640 --> 00:45:58,879 Speaker 1: we're frozen. But again, the eye and this guy don't lie, 810 00:45:58,920 --> 00:46:01,439 Speaker 1: so you can't fake it. Because if everyone's gonna seeing 811 00:46:01,440 --> 00:46:03,280 Speaker 1: on TV that you was you know, you were soft 812 00:46:03,600 --> 00:46:05,520 Speaker 1: and you let a little bit of cold get to you. 813 00:46:05,760 --> 00:46:08,240 Speaker 1: So that was the That was the two worst parts 814 00:46:08,280 --> 00:46:13,960 Speaker 1: about being to me on fourth and long. I think 815 00:46:14,000 --> 00:46:16,719 Speaker 1: I did once. I think do you still get do 816 00:46:16,760 --> 00:46:21,440 Speaker 1: you still get recognized from the show? Yeah? Every day? 817 00:46:21,840 --> 00:46:25,960 Speaker 1: Do you really tell me? I love the show? And 818 00:46:26,000 --> 00:46:30,240 Speaker 1: I'll never get tired of hearing that? Ever, when's the movie? Awesome? 819 00:46:30,760 --> 00:46:34,959 Speaker 1: There you go, approach approach. Jesse Sony bought the life 820 00:46:35,000 --> 00:46:37,839 Speaker 1: rights to my story like four years ago, but they've 821 00:46:38,040 --> 00:46:39,759 Speaker 1: they cut me a check like four years ago. They 822 00:46:39,840 --> 00:46:42,000 Speaker 1: just never have done anything with it. I don't know, Hey, 823 00:46:42,200 --> 00:46:45,319 Speaker 1: if they do, do something. If they do something with it, 824 00:46:45,400 --> 00:46:47,279 Speaker 1: you make sure that this show is a part of it. 825 00:46:47,520 --> 00:46:50,279 Speaker 1: That's right, you know, I want my TV. I want 826 00:46:50,440 --> 00:46:52,520 Speaker 1: I want I want my I want my sag card. 827 00:46:54,440 --> 00:46:56,200 Speaker 1: I got one more question, but where at the time? 828 00:46:56,400 --> 00:47:03,960 Speaker 1: All right, last question? All right, Kurts. What kind of 829 00:47:03,960 --> 00:47:08,600 Speaker 1: always barked into the background. Oh, it's it's a once 830 00:47:08,680 --> 00:47:11,440 Speaker 1: kind of a terrier border collie mix and one is 831 00:47:11,480 --> 00:47:16,120 Speaker 1: a kind of a lab mix. So they're both pains 832 00:47:16,120 --> 00:47:19,840 Speaker 1: in the butt. I got a question for Kurt. I 833 00:47:19,880 --> 00:47:22,360 Speaker 1: got a question for Kurt. You're not getting off that easy. 834 00:47:22,520 --> 00:47:25,040 Speaker 1: If you were not, if you were not doing this job, 835 00:47:25,360 --> 00:47:28,920 Speaker 1: what would you be doing? What would I be doing? Home? Man? 836 00:47:29,000 --> 00:47:33,080 Speaker 1: I have no idea working great answer. Hopefully I'd be 837 00:47:33,080 --> 00:47:37,719 Speaker 1: working in sports somewhat. Question was most random when you're 838 00:47:37,719 --> 00:47:43,840 Speaker 1: working for the magazine? Most random fan mail? Oh, we 839 00:47:44,000 --> 00:47:46,040 Speaker 1: got some scary ones a couple, you know, we have 840 00:47:46,080 --> 00:47:48,440 Speaker 1: a few wackos right in and we have some you 841 00:47:48,480 --> 00:47:51,719 Speaker 1: know with crazy trade proposals and that sort of thing. 842 00:47:51,800 --> 00:47:55,480 Speaker 1: So um yeah, probably the ones that stand out of 843 00:47:55,520 --> 00:47:57,480 Speaker 1: the ones are kind of threatening and all that. So, 844 00:47:58,280 --> 00:48:01,960 Speaker 1: you know, the magazine, the security magazine was really big 845 00:48:02,040 --> 00:48:06,920 Speaker 1: in the prison system. Yeah, yeah, I'm serious. I'm serious. 846 00:48:07,000 --> 00:48:11,040 Speaker 1: We had a big, big prison subscription following there because 847 00:48:11,040 --> 00:48:13,520 Speaker 1: they because they couldn't they couldn't get TV, they couldn't 848 00:48:13,520 --> 00:48:15,880 Speaker 1: get you know, cell phones, they couldn't get internet, so 849 00:48:15,960 --> 00:48:18,160 Speaker 1: it was really big. When they got rid of the 850 00:48:18,160 --> 00:48:22,600 Speaker 1: magazine as a weekly publication, there were some heartbroken inmates 851 00:48:22,680 --> 00:48:26,560 Speaker 1: that were just destroyed because of that. So this is true. 852 00:48:26,760 --> 00:48:30,160 Speaker 1: That is true. That's funny, Kurt, Kurt, would you be 853 00:48:30,239 --> 00:48:32,040 Speaker 1: if you could, if you could be anything, would you 854 00:48:32,080 --> 00:48:38,200 Speaker 1: be a rock star or a pro baseball player? Oh? Wow, man, 855 00:48:38,960 --> 00:48:42,080 Speaker 1: that's a good one. Probably probably a pro baseball player. 856 00:48:42,520 --> 00:48:45,680 Speaker 1: But I've always dreamed about being a rock star too. 857 00:48:45,760 --> 00:48:50,680 Speaker 1: So who's your favorite? Too old? Well? I was always 858 00:48:50,760 --> 00:48:55,800 Speaker 1: Van Alm So that was okay. I like this. We 859 00:48:55,920 --> 00:48:59,560 Speaker 1: might need to do this segment every Friday. Maybe we 860 00:48:59,640 --> 00:49:02,640 Speaker 1: do this every what's a week, Chris, I'll work, Yeah, 861 00:49:02,960 --> 00:49:04,640 Speaker 1: work on that. Maybe we'll bring it back next week 862 00:49:04,680 --> 00:49:07,680 Speaker 1: when Nate's on there. Okay, well, Chris, thanks for contributing. 863 00:49:08,200 --> 00:49:11,200 Speaker 1: Kurt looking good in that blue man. That's a that's 864 00:49:11,200 --> 00:49:15,440 Speaker 1: a good color on you. Jesse, Keep cooking, Son, keep cooking, 865 00:49:15,680 --> 00:49:19,040 Speaker 1: keep kissing them guns, keep growing them, good looking poster 866 00:49:19,120 --> 00:49:22,120 Speaker 1: behind you. Thank you week Stop, Thank Yes, WBC Mortgage. 867 00:49:22,400 --> 00:49:25,799 Speaker 1: We will be back tomorrow, hopefully, hopefully Nate is not 868 00:49:25,920 --> 00:49:29,600 Speaker 1: technically challenged again. Tomorrow, we'll have a full crew. We'll 869 00:49:29,600 --> 00:49:32,840 Speaker 1: bring it back to your life tomorrow, same time, same plays, 870 00:49:32,920 --> 00:49:36,160 Speaker 1: Hanging with the Boys. This has been a production of 871 00:49:36,320 --> 00:49:39,839 Speaker 1: Dallas Cowboys dot Com and the Dallas Cowboys Football Clock.