WEBVTT - Bullseye w/ Stephen Tobolowsky 0:00:00.160 --> 0:00:03.960 Of the law and order franchises. SVU is considered especially watchable. 0:00:04.200 --> 0:00:06.760 We are the amateur detectives who kind of investigate the 0:00:06.840 --> 0:00:07.640 vicious felonies. 0:00:07.680 --> 0:00:10.240 These episodes are based on These are our stories. 0:00:10.600 --> 0:00:30.160 Done done, Hello, and welcome to That's Messed Up, a 0:00:30.400 --> 0:00:31.600 SVU podcast. 0:00:31.920 --> 0:00:35.479 I'm one of your hosts, Kara Klank and I'm Liza Traeger, 0:00:35.840 --> 0:00:39.680 and we talk SVU. We talk crimes, We have celeb guests, 0:00:40.520 --> 0:00:44.680 but first we chit chat. What's up? What just happens? 0:00:44.920 --> 0:00:47.559 Is up? Girl? Well, you and I just got back 0:00:47.600 --> 0:00:51.400 from a very fun first I'm still out on the road. 0:00:51.520 --> 0:00:54.200 You're still on the road. Well, I mean I'm back 0:00:54.520 --> 0:00:57.280 because at the TMU part of it's over, you're still 0:00:57.280 --> 0:00:59.560 doing some stand up. But we just got back from 0:00:59.560 --> 0:01:03.440 a fun first leg of our tour. We're so excited. 0:01:03.440 --> 0:01:06.479 It went really great. Everybody was so awesome. We had 0:01:06.880 --> 0:01:09.920 a I had a great time. Like we loved seeing 0:01:09.959 --> 0:01:14.440 everybody in the Carolina in North Carolina and where were 0:01:14.480 --> 0:01:16.600 the fuck else were we? Nashville was a great show. 0:01:16.760 --> 0:01:19.399 We do have one we say about Nashville. 0:01:19.560 --> 0:01:23.800 You guys, we saw a line like twenty thirty people 0:01:23.880 --> 0:01:29.200 deep trying to take photos next to angel wings painted 0:01:29.200 --> 0:01:30.360 on the side of a wall. 0:01:31.200 --> 0:01:35.120 What it's so crazy to me. I know it's for 0:01:35.200 --> 0:01:38.400 social media and whatever. We're all ill with our social media. 0:01:38.520 --> 0:01:41.440 But like in La there's like ninety of those angel 0:01:41.440 --> 0:01:44.080 wings everywhere. You can like take them, take a picture 0:01:44.120 --> 0:01:45.880 of them anywhere, And so it was weird that there 0:01:45.959 --> 0:01:48.840 was just like one set that every that are famous, 0:01:48.840 --> 0:01:50.040 that everybody wanted to go to. 0:01:51.040 --> 0:01:54.400 People were also doing it wrong, like seven people polish 0:01:54.760 --> 0:01:56.560 in front of the wings and it's like, no, the 0:01:56.600 --> 0:01:59.240 whole point is like one person stands and it looks 0:01:59.280 --> 0:02:02.760 like their wings. So like seven of you just wanted 0:02:02.840 --> 0:02:06.040 to be near the wings, not even an optical illusion. 0:02:06.440 --> 0:02:09.000 And I guess if you're from Nashville, tell us that 0:02:09.120 --> 0:02:12.320 like like Taylor Swift painted those wings or tell us 0:02:12.320 --> 0:02:14.800 like the reason why those wings are so important. But 0:02:14.919 --> 0:02:17.080 like I could not figure it out. It just seemed 0:02:17.120 --> 0:02:19.760 like you know, Instagram art on the wall. 0:02:19.800 --> 0:02:22.000 Because we went up, so we were in the gulch 0:02:22.200 --> 0:02:25.760 area and we went to brunch and it was super fine, 0:02:25.960 --> 0:02:27.359 and then we saw it, but there were a lot 0:02:27.520 --> 0:02:29.760 like our We got a hook up, but there were 0:02:29.960 --> 0:02:32.720 giant ass lines to get in the brunch. So when 0:02:32.760 --> 0:02:34.560 we see this big line, we're like, oh, I wonder 0:02:34.600 --> 0:02:37.480 what restaurant that is. And then it was like, oh, 0:02:37.600 --> 0:02:43.120 they're taking photos next to painted wings. 0:02:42.800 --> 0:02:45.600 It was upsetting. It was weird for sure. 0:02:45.960 --> 0:02:49.720 Yes, people just posted on their stories like I spilled 0:02:49.720 --> 0:02:51.840 my drink trying to take a photo of it. The 0:02:51.880 --> 0:02:55.680 internet is fucked, like we're fucked, Like we are so fucked, 0:02:55.840 --> 0:02:58.440 like nothing has happened unless you posted or something. 0:02:58.600 --> 0:03:01.800 It's I just yeah, it rubbed us the wrong way. 0:03:02.680 --> 0:03:05.640 Well listen. If you want to hear all this and 0:03:05.720 --> 0:03:09.560 more live, come see our tour. We are going out 0:03:09.560 --> 0:03:11.680 again in a couple of weeks in November. We're going 0:03:11.720 --> 0:03:14.640 to be in the Midwest, So come see us at 0:03:14.720 --> 0:03:19.359 Zany's Rosemont on November thirteenth, because unfortunately our I mean 0:03:19.639 --> 0:03:22.440 fortunately because we love the everybody that bought tickets, but 0:03:22.480 --> 0:03:25.400 the Chicago show at Zany's Downtown is sold out. So 0:03:25.680 --> 0:03:28.040 head out to the suburbs and see us in Rosemont 0:03:28.120 --> 0:03:30.160 on the thirteenth. It'll be so fun. It's like a 0:03:30.240 --> 0:03:33.240 nice big space. I really like that club. It'll be fun. 0:03:33.840 --> 0:03:36.720 And then Indianapolis will be there on the fifteenth. We'll 0:03:36.760 --> 0:03:39.240 be in Columbus on the sixteenth. We'll be in Cleveland 0:03:39.280 --> 0:03:42.400 on the seventeenth, Detroit on the eighteenth, and Madison, Wisconsin 0:03:42.880 --> 0:03:45.520 on the twentieth. And I think you can even see 0:03:45.600 --> 0:03:48.840 us do stand up both in Detroit and Madison. So 0:03:49.480 --> 0:03:52.000 well you'll see me opening for Lisa in Detroit and 0:03:52.000 --> 0:03:54.920 then Lisa solo and Madison doing great stuff with other 0:03:55.000 --> 0:03:59.120 great openers. And so if you guys are interested, that's 0:03:59.160 --> 0:04:03.000 messed up dot com. Get tickets please. We love meeting 0:04:03.040 --> 0:04:05.400 all of you, seeing all of you. We're selling tour 0:04:05.520 --> 0:04:07.840 only merch you can only get it on the tour. 0:04:08.560 --> 0:04:11.400 And you know, we just love meeting all of you 0:04:11.440 --> 0:04:14.080 guys and doing live shows. And we pick really wild, 0:04:14.200 --> 0:04:16.640 fun episodes to do that are not based on crimes, 0:04:16.760 --> 0:04:18.960 so we get to talk about some of your faves. 0:04:20.080 --> 0:04:20.840 What else, Lisa? 0:04:21.160 --> 0:04:24.000 I mean also, even though the shows are incredible, meeting 0:04:24.040 --> 0:04:28.480 everyone's incredible. Like was there a flat tire? Yes, was 0:04:28.520 --> 0:04:32.640 there a rented out vehicle not checked in by the company, 0:04:32.720 --> 0:04:35.400 but we had to get another car in another city. Yes, 0:04:35.960 --> 0:04:39.440 we're hotel rooms, not our name's not put under the room. 0:04:39.600 --> 0:04:44.080 Like honestly, you know, did we have a tech guy 0:04:44.160 --> 0:04:47.839 in one of these locations that truly I sent a 0:04:47.880 --> 0:04:52.920 formal complaint about. But like, so it is, it's just 0:04:52.960 --> 0:04:55.280 really funny. And what I think about is this quote 0:04:55.320 --> 0:04:57.040 that it might be like a fake thing where people 0:04:57.040 --> 0:04:59.800 think marily Monroe said a bunch of stuff and she hasn't. Yeah, yes, 0:05:00.200 --> 0:05:04.400 that share said I'm only difficult if you're an idiot, 0:05:05.080 --> 0:05:09.120 and I want that tattooed on my body, like truly, 0:05:09.720 --> 0:05:10.400 that's how I feel. 0:05:12.400 --> 0:05:16.120 Oh my god, if this is difficult for you, you're dumb. 0:05:16.240 --> 0:05:19.840 I don't know what to tell you. Yeah, we're not 0:05:19.880 --> 0:05:23.680 so tough. No, but obviously we had so, you know, 0:05:23.760 --> 0:05:26.520 so much fun. But I thought I would just you know, 0:05:26.960 --> 0:05:29.320 sprinkle in that sprinkling. We had fun. 0:05:29.480 --> 0:05:33.400 And then I wrote here Halloween candy murder screen shot, 0:05:33.800 --> 0:05:36.120 and I wish I knew. 0:05:35.960 --> 0:05:38.280 What that was. I can't wait for Halloween. I mean, 0:05:38.360 --> 0:05:40.720 I'm alone with my kids this weekend as a punishment 0:05:40.760 --> 0:05:42.680 for going out of town for ninety No just kidding, 0:05:43.000 --> 0:05:44.800 just my husband's going out of town, so I'm going 0:05:44.839 --> 0:05:47.479 I'm going to be alone taking them to ninety Halloween 0:05:47.520 --> 0:05:53.120 parties coming up. So that's fun. But what do you 0:05:53.120 --> 0:05:57.680 think that means your screenshot Halloween candy murder. I don't know. 0:05:58.320 --> 0:05:59.200 I have no idea. 0:05:59.560 --> 0:06:03.599 Oh oh, is it like all of those memes where 0:06:03.760 --> 0:06:05.520 people put things into the candy. 0:06:05.720 --> 0:06:07.559 Yeah, that's what I was thinking you were talking about. 0:06:07.560 --> 0:06:10.599 When this woman goes with this amazing account that I follow, 0:06:10.680 --> 0:06:15.200 I think it's Matt XIV or whatever, was like, oh 0:06:15.200 --> 0:06:18.200 my god, please check your children's candy. I just opened 0:06:18.200 --> 0:06:20.320 mine up and found a drag Queen story Hour in 0:06:20.400 --> 0:06:22.920 my son's Snicker and it's like, it's so funny because 0:06:22.960 --> 0:06:24.719 it's like a Snicker's broken open with like a drag 0:06:24.760 --> 0:06:26.719 queen reading inside, and it's so good. 0:06:27.560 --> 0:06:31.440 It's gotta be it. I'm not really sure, but what 0:06:31.560 --> 0:06:33.039 you said you had something to tell me. 0:06:33.240 --> 0:06:35.320 Oh, well, this is so funny because I was just 0:06:35.400 --> 0:06:38.280 looking on you know, we use a lot of the Wikipedia, 0:06:38.400 --> 0:06:41.760 the Law and Order Wikipedia, like the fandom just to 0:06:41.800 --> 0:06:44.000 look at. We do some of our own research too, 0:06:44.040 --> 0:06:46.160 based on what stuff's based on. But I use this 0:06:46.200 --> 0:06:48.279 all the time, and I wanted to see what the 0:06:48.320 --> 0:06:50.719 most current episode if they were going to say it 0:06:50.760 --> 0:06:53.640 was Ariel Castro again, because the show's already done Ariel Castro, 0:06:53.680 --> 0:06:56.520 if it was something different, and they don't even actually 0:06:56.560 --> 0:06:59.680 have it listed yet episode four, but episode three, did 0:06:59.680 --> 0:07:02.880 you watch episode yet? It's like the two celebrities of 0:07:02.920 --> 0:07:05.440 this current season. Yeah yeah, that are in like a 0:07:05.480 --> 0:07:09.120 tumultuous relationship or whatever. So it's definitely based on Amber 0:07:09.120 --> 0:07:12.680 heard Johnny Depp for sure, and then Shia lah Buff. 0:07:12.760 --> 0:07:16.400 They said maybe it's based on his lawsuit with FKA Twigs. Okay, sure, 0:07:16.480 --> 0:07:20.240 I'll buy that. The third British The third bullet point 0:07:20.280 --> 0:07:23.800 says the public harassment of former British Prime Minister Boris 0:07:23.880 --> 0:07:28.440 Johnson during the Platinum Jubilee of Elizabeth the IID what. 0:07:29.680 --> 0:07:32.720 I don't think a SVU wrote an episode at all 0:07:32.760 --> 0:07:35.080 about Boris About Boris Johnson. 0:07:36.560 --> 0:07:39.560 Jubilee is a really fun word, though, it sure is. 0:07:40.520 --> 0:07:42.120 It's like one of my favorite words. 0:07:42.360 --> 0:07:45.440 I lived in Rome during like the Catholic Jubilee because 0:07:45.480 --> 0:07:47.120 I lived there in the year two thousand and I 0:07:47.120 --> 0:07:50.680 think that's like when they happen every one hundred years 0:07:50.760 --> 0:07:53.120 or something, but that it was like a huge, like 0:07:53.200 --> 0:07:55.640 millennial jubilee because it was the year two thousand and 0:07:55.720 --> 0:07:58.680 so it's where all these nuns and Catholic people like 0:07:58.760 --> 0:08:01.960 all come to Rome. So the city's like really spruced 0:08:02.040 --> 0:08:04.760 up and they're offering like, you know, extra nothing. 0:08:04.760 --> 0:08:07.760 Makes jubilee sound sad. Then putting a Catholic in front 0:08:07.800 --> 0:08:08.200 of it. 0:08:08.200 --> 0:08:12.240 I know, I know. Well the plant Jubilee of Elizabeth 0:08:12.280 --> 0:08:14.520 the second I don't think was fun either. I think 0:08:14.560 --> 0:08:17.560 it was an old lady run like parading through the 0:08:17.560 --> 0:08:21.240 streets days before she died. Yeah, they need to stop it. 0:08:21.360 --> 0:08:24.880 Jubilee means party or Cherry's jubilee right, like an ice 0:08:24.920 --> 0:08:28.240 cream flavor. Wait, you opened for Bob the Drag Queen. 0:08:28.320 --> 0:08:29.440 Do you have anything to say? 0:08:29.720 --> 0:08:30.280 I did? 0:08:30.400 --> 0:08:35.160 It was amazing in Huntsville, Alabama. I opened for Bob 0:08:35.160 --> 0:08:37.840 the Drag Queen for two days because Lisa was not 0:08:37.880 --> 0:08:40.120 able to. Can we now talk about it? We haven't 0:08:40.160 --> 0:08:43.000 talked about it. Oh, we haven't really, No, we have 0:08:43.080 --> 0:08:45.240 not talked about this. We posted it on our Instagram. 0:08:45.240 --> 0:08:47.640 But I would like to formally brag on behalf of 0:08:47.640 --> 0:08:50.439 my co host, Lisa Trigger, who has been cast in 0:08:50.520 --> 0:08:54.360 a Netflix show starring Michelle Buteau, Survival of the Thickest. 0:08:54.720 --> 0:08:56.480 That's the reason we had to switch around some of 0:08:56.480 --> 0:08:59.080 our tour dates. Thank you for being understanding. While Lisa 0:08:59.120 --> 0:09:02.640 becomes a fam miss Hollywood celebrity. Yeah, it's been really 0:09:02.679 --> 0:09:07.120 fun and nice. Can you put a clapping sound effect 0:09:07.200 --> 0:09:09.120 in there, please? It's been really fun. 0:09:09.640 --> 0:09:12.559 I love being on a set and everyone is really 0:09:12.600 --> 0:09:16.079 talented and experienced and accomplished, and it's been fun being 0:09:16.120 --> 0:09:19.760 around everyone. And I do have a really really cute 0:09:20.000 --> 0:09:23.640 little co star in this show, but I will not 0:09:23.720 --> 0:09:24.480 reveal it yet. 0:09:24.559 --> 0:09:27.080 Oh okay, that's enough. That's a tune in. That's a 0:09:27.120 --> 0:09:29.320 tune in message right there. You guys all have to 0:09:29.320 --> 0:09:31.520 watch when it comes out in the spring. Sometime. We 0:09:31.559 --> 0:09:35.000 will definitely be promoting it. But because Lisa and I 0:09:35.040 --> 0:09:40.400 got my scenes for these upcoming and they are so good, 0:09:40.600 --> 0:09:42.640 I don't know. I think your character sounds like it's 0:09:42.679 --> 0:09:44.839 gonna be wild and maybe like a little bit of 0:09:44.880 --> 0:09:47.200 a scene stealer. I'm excited, but it's really cool. 0:09:47.320 --> 0:09:49.719 Is like a few friends that I've told about this 0:09:50.240 --> 0:09:53.120 auditioned for it, and I guess and Edinburgh marsh just 0:09:53.120 --> 0:09:55.480 said like everyone was auditioning, but everyone that I had 0:09:55.520 --> 0:09:59.160 heard was like, oh, that makes sense, You're perfect for this. 0:09:59.320 --> 0:10:02.040 And like when I into the set of the character's apartment, 0:10:02.080 --> 0:10:04.200 I own multiple things in the apart I mean she's 0:10:04.240 --> 0:10:05.360 worse than me as a person. 0:10:05.440 --> 0:10:06.160 Yeah, yeah, yeah, but. 0:10:08.080 --> 0:10:11.840 Yeah, we're Yeah, it's really really exciting a lot of 0:10:12.240 --> 0:10:13.959 high class things we got going on. 0:10:14.320 --> 0:10:17.319 Yeah. Well, since Lisa couldn't open for Bob, I got 0:10:17.320 --> 0:10:19.240 to open for Bob and I was happy to do 0:10:19.280 --> 0:10:22.120 that and I had a blast. We had so much fun. 0:10:22.120 --> 0:10:25.280 We went to after both shows, we went to the 0:10:25.360 --> 0:10:27.800 gay Bar in Huntsville, Alabama, and one night we did 0:10:27.840 --> 0:10:31.000 karaoke and another night we did trivia. It was so fun. 0:10:31.559 --> 0:10:34.360 I mean, I had a great time, and I don't 0:10:34.360 --> 0:10:37.040 really think I have any other tea about that. It 0:10:37.120 --> 0:10:40.000 was just Bob's awesome and like so funny and professional. 0:10:40.120 --> 0:10:43.880 He kept going clink clink, clink clink, and like hitting glasses. 0:10:44.679 --> 0:10:48.000 That's key. Yeah. But I also thank you to the 0:10:48.000 --> 0:10:50.120 many Boston listeners who told us that that when I 0:10:50.160 --> 0:10:52.640 told that story about Clink the Bar, that it's because 0:10:52.679 --> 0:10:54.360 it used to be a jail. I should definitely go 0:10:54.440 --> 0:10:57.560 check it out there. That makes a lot of sense 0:10:57.760 --> 0:11:00.560 that was coming through the Cliank. 0:11:00.920 --> 0:11:05.800 I also wanted to do a shout out to Garcel Bouvet, 0:11:05.800 --> 0:11:12.120 who's also in this Netflix show. I am not yet. Yeah, well, 0:11:12.120 --> 0:11:14.360 I have not Mega either. I did meet Peppermint, which 0:11:14.400 --> 0:11:18.640 was thrilling. But did you you or you're caught up 0:11:18.640 --> 0:11:21.319 on Bravo? Did you watch the Real Housewives Reunion two 0:11:21.480 --> 0:11:21.800 or no? 0:11:21.840 --> 0:11:23.960 Not yet? Yes? Caught up? Caught up, caught up. 0:11:24.320 --> 0:11:27.520 I mean, I'm I've been a Kyle apologist for this 0:11:27.640 --> 0:11:29.679 whole time, and I'm always like, yeah, but i'd want 0:11:29.679 --> 0:11:32.360 to hang out her house or fuck Kyle. I am 0:11:32.440 --> 0:11:36.160 no longer on her side in any capacity. No wonder, 0:11:36.200 --> 0:11:38.640 your sisters don't want to fucking talk to you. There's 0:11:38.679 --> 0:11:41.520 a reason you're not invited to your family events, and 0:11:41.760 --> 0:11:45.160 go fuck yourself and anyway, for me, it's team Garcel 0:11:45.240 --> 0:11:47.079 all the way, and I'm disgusted by the rest of 0:11:47.120 --> 0:11:49.959 the ladies. Andy apologized this week to his treatment of 0:11:50.000 --> 0:11:53.560 Garcel too, because hopefully he realized it. He did, he 0:11:53.640 --> 0:11:56.959 had to. How do you not apologize? Garcela is talking 0:11:57.000 --> 0:12:01.880 about her near run in with Bill, who tried to 0:12:01.960 --> 0:12:03.439 fucking slip her a drink. 0:12:03.559 --> 0:12:04.360 Yeah, yeah, And. 0:12:04.280 --> 0:12:07.120 Then she's talking about her book, and we're talking about 0:12:07.120 --> 0:12:10.440 her son, and it's all about Lisa Ena and recycling 0:12:10.480 --> 0:12:13.839 and this and that, and they zoomed on Garcel's face 0:12:13.920 --> 0:12:18.400 and she just looked so hurt, and yeah, fuck all 0:12:18.440 --> 0:12:19.520 of them, Fuck. 0:12:19.360 --> 0:12:19.920 All of them. 0:12:20.200 --> 0:12:22.600 You are all racist. You are all racist. You can 0:12:22.640 --> 0:12:24.959 they can all deny it. Garcel can say they're not racist. 0:12:25.280 --> 0:12:27.800 But if this happened to another fourteen year old child 0:12:27.920 --> 0:12:30.280 that was not a black child, there's no way they 0:12:30.280 --> 0:12:33.280 would be treating the situation of the online trolls this 0:12:33.440 --> 0:12:36.640 kind of casually and telling Garcel how she should act 0:12:36.760 --> 0:12:39.920 or not when someone said horrific things. 0:12:40.679 --> 0:12:45.120 No, it's very shitty, and I honestly could be. You 0:12:45.160 --> 0:12:47.880 could restart the whole show just around Garcel, and I 0:12:47.880 --> 0:12:50.080 guess maybe they'd keep Sutton because they're close, But like, 0:12:50.600 --> 0:12:52.520 you could restart the whole cast around Garcel and I 0:12:52.559 --> 0:12:56.200 would watch like she's She's a top tier housewife to me, 0:12:56.440 --> 0:12:58.320 and she should not have been fucking treated that way. 0:12:58.520 --> 0:13:01.640 Here's what I will say about those. I think a 0:13:01.679 --> 0:13:05.120 fan bought those. To be honest, I don't think Diana 0:13:05.160 --> 0:13:06.160 is smart enough to do that. 0:13:06.240 --> 0:13:10.560 Diana doesn't have fans, no, no, no, just regular fan, 0:13:10.920 --> 0:13:14.080 a racist fan of the show, like you know, just 0:13:14.160 --> 0:13:16.160 like to cause chaos and be psycho. 0:13:16.200 --> 0:13:18.000 I just don't think Diana smart enough for that shit 0:13:18.080 --> 0:13:21.600 to be honest or employs anyone smart enough really, Like. 0:13:21.760 --> 0:13:25.000 Yeah, but if she's also like a human trafficker like 0:13:25.040 --> 0:13:27.480 they've accused her of, then who knows. 0:13:27.280 --> 0:13:29.480 What Waite I didn't even know about that. Fuck? Are 0:13:29.520 --> 0:13:31.280 we getting into Sbu territory now? 0:13:31.360 --> 0:13:31.560 Yeah? 0:13:31.600 --> 0:13:33.199 Yeah? Yeah? Because do you know that book? 0:13:33.280 --> 0:13:35.680 She had people claim that that book is actually a 0:13:35.720 --> 0:13:39.559 catalog for people you can have sex right. 0:13:40.160 --> 0:13:40.760 And pay for. 0:13:41.640 --> 0:13:44.520 And I also just it bothers me when people act 0:13:44.600 --> 0:13:47.560 so snooty and rich and entitled, when it's like you 0:13:47.720 --> 0:13:50.840 married into that money, yeah you did not, like you know, 0:13:51.440 --> 0:13:54.160 Yolanda was like this too, where it's like, oh on, 0:13:54.440 --> 0:13:55.480 it's like you're trap. 0:13:55.520 --> 0:13:56.160 You're a grifter. 0:13:56.760 --> 0:14:01.000 You're a sexy grifter who grifts a rich lives. Like, 0:14:01.400 --> 0:14:04.520 I don't know why you're acting like you're classy. I 0:14:04.559 --> 0:14:07.600 think sexy grifter might be merch. I'll be honest with you. 0:14:08.000 --> 0:14:11.120 That's a great idea, a tank top that says sexy grifter, 0:14:12.200 --> 0:14:15.560 give it, Okay, yeah, I would love that. I'll take it. No. 0:14:15.640 --> 0:14:16.520 But I also with. 0:14:16.520 --> 0:14:20.000 The Diana thing where they're like they're trying to say 0:14:20.040 --> 0:14:23.440 that evil is a worse word than the sea word. 0:14:23.800 --> 0:14:25.920 And this is an old mulaney joke, but it's like, 0:14:26.040 --> 0:14:28.880 how about the word you can't even say out loud? Yeah, 0:14:28.920 --> 0:14:32.720 probably the worst word them all, saying that it's worse 0:14:32.800 --> 0:14:34.240 to be called evil than cunt? 0:14:34.360 --> 0:14:36.520 Like what, yeah, yeah. 0:14:36.400 --> 0:14:41.000 Yeah, why you're not even saying you're saying the sea wordy? 0:14:41.400 --> 0:14:43.920 I just and suttons upon. 0:14:44.080 --> 0:14:47.480 But I heard Garcel had like huge and I heard 0:14:47.520 --> 0:14:49.360 it because I watched all the Bravo cons stuff, but 0:14:49.840 --> 0:14:53.720 everyone was team Garcel. Everyone was shouting for her, and 0:14:54.040 --> 0:14:55.480 I think this least I hope. 0:14:55.920 --> 0:14:58.520 I can't wait for part three. I mean, I think 0:14:58.960 --> 0:14:59.800 is in a renaissance. 0:15:00.160 --> 0:15:04.920 We have like Salt Lake, Beverly Hills, Potomac, swinter House, 0:15:05.120 --> 0:15:06.600 so all together, it's. 0:15:06.480 --> 0:15:10.240 Like, yeah, everything's running on all cylinders over at Bravo. 0:15:10.400 --> 0:15:14.560 For sure. I will say the problem with fucking Kyle 0:15:14.720 --> 0:15:16.440 and always has been a problem with her and a 0:15:16.440 --> 0:15:18.160 lot of the women on Beverly Hills, but doesn't seem 0:15:18.200 --> 0:15:20.080 to be a problem for Garcel is that they hide shit, 0:15:20.200 --> 0:15:25.280 They do not say things. Everything feels like there's something, 0:15:25.360 --> 0:15:26.880 you know, the thing I told you that we can't 0:15:26.880 --> 0:15:29.080 stay on camera, you know what? I mean, like everything 0:15:29.600 --> 0:15:32.320 feels like Kyle is like it's like, Kyle, if you 0:15:32.320 --> 0:15:34.960 have shit about Kathy or whatever, just fucking say it 0:15:34.960 --> 0:15:36.560 on the show. Why are you here if you don't 0:15:36.560 --> 0:15:38.240 say it on the show, because then you're the one 0:15:38.280 --> 0:15:40.360 sitting there going that's why we come on the show 0:15:40.560 --> 0:15:42.920 to do our lives. Say it, say it, say it. 0:15:42.960 --> 0:15:45.040 And then like she never says anything. 0:15:44.760 --> 0:15:46.920 You know, not only that, I saw this online where 0:15:46.920 --> 0:15:49.240 it's like she's so mad that Crystal won't say what 0:15:49.360 --> 0:15:52.040 Sutton said, but Lisa, Renna is not saying what Kathy said. 0:15:52.960 --> 0:15:55.920 Well, is that not a problem. I will say though 0:15:56.000 --> 0:15:58.440 that I think that Crystal. I think what our friend 0:15:58.520 --> 0:16:01.400 Julia thinks is that Chris protecting Ston and that she 0:16:01.440 --> 0:16:03.440 does have a specific thing and she's not saying it. 0:16:03.560 --> 0:16:05.720 So fine, I'm fine to let her do that. And 0:16:05.760 --> 0:16:08.920 I think that Renna has said a couple of things. 0:16:09.240 --> 0:16:12.720 She said Jeri, it's a useless idiot. She said, I'll 0:16:12.760 --> 0:16:15.120 ruin Bravo and take Kyle down in her old family 0:16:15.120 --> 0:16:20.840 a Bravo. I mean she's given a couple specifics, right, Yeah, But. 0:16:21.600 --> 0:16:24.000 It's also like you're acting like you care about your 0:16:24.040 --> 0:16:26.640 sister and you're letting Renna do all this, like cut 0:16:26.680 --> 0:16:30.000 Renna out, slam her down, Like why is your aggression 0:16:30.040 --> 0:16:35.000 towards Crystal and not towards Lisa, Renna, Yeah, who is 0:16:35.080 --> 0:16:37.160 destroying your relationship with your sister? 0:16:37.440 --> 0:16:39.560 Well, I think that she has a fucked up relationship 0:16:39.560 --> 0:16:41.680 with her sister. And that's why I love my sister 0:16:41.800 --> 0:16:44.800 so much. Like if my sister, If if Renna came 0:16:44.840 --> 0:16:46.600 in and said your sister had a full breakdown, I 0:16:46.640 --> 0:16:48.400 would like walk off and be like, we're not doing 0:16:48.480 --> 0:16:50.120 this on camera. Like I would just be like, we're 0:16:50.120 --> 0:16:52.520 not doing this, and instead she goes, Guys, I feel 0:16:52.560 --> 0:16:55.320 kind of uncomfortable. Can we stop? Like it's so mealy 0:16:55.360 --> 0:16:58.160 mouthed all of it, and if it was, if you 0:16:58.240 --> 0:17:00.920 really loved your sister. But I think that the truth 0:17:01.040 --> 0:17:04.119 is what she said to Erica was I'm glad the 0:17:04.160 --> 0:17:05.600 world is seeing what's up with Kathy. 0:17:05.680 --> 0:17:05.880 Now. 0:17:06.040 --> 0:17:08.320 I'm glad that people are seeing and that's it. That's 0:17:08.320 --> 0:17:10.560 why she's not going after Rinnash. She wants people to 0:17:10.560 --> 0:17:13.439 see my sister Kim is an alcoholic who's abusive to me. 0:17:13.560 --> 0:17:17.000 My sister Kathy is a power hungry, hungry freak who's 0:17:17.040 --> 0:17:19.040 abusive to me. She wants everyone to see it and 0:17:19.119 --> 0:17:21.320 so she can be Kyle the victim. But it's like 0:17:21.600 --> 0:17:24.840 the way she's going about it looks so slimy and like, yeah, 0:17:25.080 --> 0:17:27.560 I'm done with her. I think that, but I don't know. 0:17:27.600 --> 0:17:30.480 Andy probably won't get rid of her, but no, because 0:17:30.600 --> 0:17:31.360 people like her. 0:17:31.400 --> 0:17:34.320 But it is like Erica is a full blown piece 0:17:34.359 --> 0:17:38.720 of shit and we're all pretending everything's fine and taking 0:17:38.800 --> 0:17:43.760 all this aggression out on the not white people. It's weird. 0:17:44.119 --> 0:17:49.960 It is fucking weird. Yeah, and yeah, it just. 0:17:49.920 --> 0:17:51.679 Bothers me and even the fans online are like why 0:17:51.720 --> 0:17:53.080 does everything have to be turned to race? 0:17:53.119 --> 0:17:55.040 It's not race? And at least and is like I 0:17:55.040 --> 0:17:57.600 can't go after Garson. It's like, but you are these 0:17:57.680 --> 0:18:00.640 micro like you are. There's no way you would treat 0:18:00.760 --> 0:18:03.520 Jack's the way you're treating him if he was like 0:18:03.920 --> 0:18:05.119 not a black child. 0:18:05.440 --> 0:18:10.359 It really, oh, completely no, there's like a there's like 0:18:10.400 --> 0:18:13.959 a phenomenon or like an epidemic of like black boys 0:18:14.000 --> 0:18:16.719 get treated older, you know, And that's like, yeah, you 0:18:16.800 --> 0:18:18.880 never would have said that to like, I know, Jagger's 0:18:18.960 --> 0:18:21.600 much younger, but like if Jagger was twelve or fourteen 0:18:21.640 --> 0:18:25.199 at a party, porch fuck out of here? You know. 0:18:25.800 --> 0:18:29.000 Can you imagine if any of this was about Porsche, 0:18:29.320 --> 0:18:32.400 Kyle's daughter, Like, oh, Porsche, yes. 0:18:32.800 --> 0:18:35.160 When you first said that, I was like, Porsha Williams, Yes, 0:18:35.880 --> 0:18:38.439 Oh my god. If Porsche was at like a party 0:18:38.480 --> 0:18:40.239 and came out to get flowers and someone goes, get 0:18:40.280 --> 0:18:43.080 the fuck out of here, Kyle would lose her goddamn 0:18:43.119 --> 0:18:46.439 mind and it would be warranted. In here, We're just like, 0:18:47.200 --> 0:18:49.240 why didn't you protect it? Why don't you do that? 0:18:49.320 --> 0:18:50.840 It's like, it's ridiculous. 0:18:51.000 --> 0:18:55.800 I'm on the schedule to well, I'm supposed to hopefully 0:18:55.840 --> 0:18:57.960 I meet Garcels soon and I will have something to 0:18:58.000 --> 0:18:58.760 say to you guys. 0:18:59.040 --> 0:19:01.119 Yeah, I have to wait till the but you just 0:19:01.160 --> 0:19:02.920 when you meet her should just be like I'm team 0:19:03.000 --> 0:19:06.200 you all the way, like well, because it's funny because 0:19:06.240 --> 0:19:07.879 the hair and makeup and everyone said that, like she 0:19:07.960 --> 0:19:10.920 finished with bravokhn and went straight to work on this show, 0:19:11.680 --> 0:19:15.320 and that she was telling the ladies like I didn't 0:19:15.320 --> 0:19:18.160 realize this was such a big deal, Like I think 0:19:18.200 --> 0:19:20.560 she was didn't realize how many people would show up 0:19:20.600 --> 0:19:22.840 to Bravo Khan and cheer for her, like I think 0:19:22.880 --> 0:19:26.280 she was surprised by the fandom, which is shocking to me. 0:19:26.359 --> 0:19:30.080 This also feels like this year Bravokn like turned like 0:19:30.160 --> 0:19:33.600 this was a year that bravokan like everybody was posting 0:19:33.640 --> 0:19:35.880 about it. I mean, obviously we had pandemic. I don't 0:19:35.920 --> 0:19:37.560 know like that they even did it last year, but 0:19:37.600 --> 0:19:39.880 they did it other years and it felt like, oh, 0:19:39.920 --> 0:19:41.440 that's a cute thing to go to if you want, 0:19:41.480 --> 0:19:43.639 and you can like get autographs or whatever. But like 0:19:43.760 --> 0:19:47.280 now it's like people are doing panels and revealing shit, 0:19:47.520 --> 0:19:50.440 and they're dropping announcements about casts, and there's all these 0:19:50.520 --> 0:19:52.600 like you can be in like a video where you're 0:19:52.640 --> 0:19:55.840 on a below deck ship, like all these like installations, 0:19:55.880 --> 0:19:58.560 and BRAVOKN just feels like it like took it. It 0:19:58.600 --> 0:20:02.520 stepped its pussy up this year, you know, puts it up. 0:20:02.840 --> 0:20:04.760 But we are not a Bravo podcast, and I do 0:20:04.840 --> 0:20:06.720 think we have to start our episode. I do. 0:20:06.880 --> 0:20:08.639 I also wanted to say that we did go to 0:20:08.680 --> 0:20:14.960 cookout in the South and Kara is not impressed it. 0:20:15.440 --> 0:20:18.240 For me, I asked for a Casa Dia. They did 0:20:18.280 --> 0:20:20.679 put chicken in it, so I couldn't eat it. I 0:20:20.760 --> 0:20:23.280 did really like the Casada sauce that's got a kick, 0:20:24.320 --> 0:20:27.240 but I was like, this is good fried food. It 0:20:27.359 --> 0:20:31.639 wasn't really blowing my mind. And my milkshake was like 0:20:31.760 --> 0:20:33.840 cement that would not come through the straw, and I 0:20:33.880 --> 0:20:36.199 was eating it like ice cream, and I stopped halfway 0:20:36.200 --> 0:20:38.400 because I was like, this isn't even very good ice cream. 0:20:38.760 --> 0:20:40.399 So I'm sorry. I don't want to be a snob 0:20:40.520 --> 0:20:43.399 or anything. I just I think I'm gonna stick with 0:20:43.480 --> 0:20:45.840 Taco Bell and Burger King. Those are my two mains. 0:20:46.600 --> 0:20:49.439 Yeah, but we couldn't even get Taco Bell because in 0:20:49.480 --> 0:20:51.760 Atlanta the line. 0:20:51.320 --> 0:20:55.480 Was like forty cars deep. It was wild. Okay, he's 0:20:55.480 --> 0:20:57.919 about to throw up six more flags. We have to go, 0:20:59.600 --> 0:21:02.960 But we have a great episode for you guys here 0:21:03.000 --> 0:21:03.440 it is. 0:21:07.920 --> 0:21:13.520 Okay, So today's episode is Bullseye, Season twelve, Episode two. 0:21:13.800 --> 0:21:20.639 What does Bullseye make you think of? Archery? Yeah? Me too? Darts? 0:21:20.920 --> 0:21:24.160 I wonder if anyone thinks anything else. All Right, we're here, 0:21:24.240 --> 0:21:26.320 We're at a bar. Here, we're doing bulls eye. We're 0:21:26.320 --> 0:21:27.119 at a readega. 0:21:28.280 --> 0:21:31.720 There's a woman stocking shelves and she's digging in a box. 0:21:31.800 --> 0:21:35.760 But also the shelves are fully stocked, Like where is 0:21:35.800 --> 0:21:37.879 she putting the contents of this box? 0:21:38.000 --> 0:21:41.720 It is a tight bodega, very uh, but you know 0:21:41.760 --> 0:21:44.159 if anybody can fit more in. It's a bodega. Like 0:21:44.240 --> 0:21:47.840 bodegas are like there's like toilet paper up to the ceiling. 0:21:48.000 --> 0:21:50.720 I mean they're really doing it. They are doing it. 0:21:51.560 --> 0:21:54.600 So she's stocking the shelves and she's bent over and 0:21:54.640 --> 0:21:57.439 a man is approaching her and purposely is getting super 0:21:57.440 --> 0:21:59.919 close and then thrust his stck onto her and she 0:22:00.000 --> 0:22:02.560 he jumps and turns around and he's like, oh, didn't 0:22:02.600 --> 0:22:05.680 see you there, sorry, and she's like third time this 0:22:05.720 --> 0:22:07.560 week and then he grabs her really hard. I was 0:22:07.560 --> 0:22:09.960 taken aback. This is like too soon. This is where 0:22:10.040 --> 0:22:12.280 I don't like this, and says you don't want to 0:22:12.280 --> 0:22:14.159 be a bitch to me, and she says, let go 0:22:14.280 --> 0:22:16.640 of me. Dennis, and the fact that his name is Dennis, 0:22:16.760 --> 0:22:20.920 it really ups this to a more horrific level. I 0:22:20.960 --> 0:22:24.240 would say, do you know my uncle Dennis at my 0:22:24.440 --> 0:22:27.440 brother's wedding introduced himself to like three of my siblings 0:22:28.040 --> 0:22:31.440 when we've known him our entire lives. Yeah, Like he 0:22:31.520 --> 0:22:33.399 was like hello, Dennis and said his last name. We 0:22:33.400 --> 0:22:37.280 were like, what, like, we've known you forever. Did you 0:22:37.320 --> 0:22:40.480 call him out? I don't think so. I don't even 0:22:40.480 --> 0:22:42.280 think it's a I don't even as far as I know, 0:22:42.359 --> 0:22:45.080 there's no like, you know, dementia or anything going on. 0:22:45.160 --> 0:22:46.960 It was just like he's a little bit weird. 0:22:47.000 --> 0:22:49.119 I don't he's just trying to shade you guys, like 0:22:49.200 --> 0:22:53.840 he's like, purpose, sorry, you're Maybe he has prosopagnosia face blindness. 0:22:55.160 --> 0:22:57.040 That reminds me of the Sex in the City scene 0:22:57.119 --> 0:22:59.600 where Carrie has really disturbed. This woman is giving her 0:22:59.640 --> 0:23:02.400 dirty and Charlotte. 0:23:01.960 --> 0:23:04.840 Goes, maybe it's Bell's palsy. 0:23:05.880 --> 0:23:10.119 I carry us to go it's not Bell's poalsy. Whatever, 0:23:10.200 --> 0:23:13.440 So fuck Dennis. And he looks aggressive. I did look 0:23:13.520 --> 0:23:15.560 him up. He's been working. He's been in a lot 0:23:15.560 --> 0:23:18.679 of Amy Schumer vehicles, train Wreck Inside Amy Schumer and 0:23:18.720 --> 0:23:19.160 life and. 0:23:19.119 --> 0:23:23.280 Beth Oh, maybe he's part of her theater collective. Maybe yeah, 0:23:23.280 --> 0:23:25.159 And she gives a lot of her the old like 0:23:25.240 --> 0:23:31.000 theater friends work and his name is Rock Yeah, so 0:23:31.080 --> 0:23:34.520 that's pretty cool. So then she goes, there's a customer 0:23:34.560 --> 0:23:36.840 and we see a kid walk in and he says 0:23:36.840 --> 0:23:39.040 that him and the boss are tight, and she's like, wow, 0:23:39.160 --> 0:23:41.680 if I tell the boss you let people eat the merchandise. 0:23:42.200 --> 0:23:44.600 And it's like, don't knark on this kid, like you 0:23:44.640 --> 0:23:46.159 know what I mean. It's just it's a rock in 0:23:46.200 --> 0:23:46.840 a hard place. 0:23:46.920 --> 0:23:50.000 It's like be sexually harassed her, you know, give up 0:23:50.040 --> 0:23:54.080 this homeless kid or something. And he's and so he 0:23:54.160 --> 0:23:56.560 turns around and starts yelling at this kid and put 0:23:56.600 --> 0:23:59.040 that back, and here you pay first and then you eat, 0:23:59.440 --> 0:24:01.399 and that it's not unique to your store. 0:24:01.560 --> 0:24:04.200 I like how he was like, in here, you pay 0:24:04.240 --> 0:24:08.480 in here. Yeah, it's like everyone knows how that works. 0:24:09.480 --> 0:24:11.600 So he grabs her to turn her around, and she 0:24:11.680 --> 0:24:14.280 looks stunned and super scared, and she's breathing deep and 0:24:14.320 --> 0:24:16.760 you can tell there's shock in her eyes. I wonder 0:24:16.760 --> 0:24:18.200 if in his head he's like, maybe I'll just let 0:24:18.240 --> 0:24:22.159 her eat this. And then he's extra shocked because she 0:24:22.160 --> 0:24:25.840 has blood going down her leg. But she's scared, sweaty 0:24:25.920 --> 0:24:28.560 and crying. Cut to the hospital and we have the 0:24:28.600 --> 0:24:32.440 doctor that is one hundred percent Baywatch surfer vibe that one. Yeah, 0:24:32.560 --> 0:24:35.000 very eligible bachelor, Like if there was like, uh, you 0:24:35.000 --> 0:24:38.440 know a New York Magazine's like one hundred most eligible bachelors. 0:24:38.480 --> 0:24:40.640 I feel like he would be one of them. 0:24:41.400 --> 0:24:46.520 And he says there's intense vaginal trauma, not good hematoma, 0:24:46.560 --> 0:24:49.480 and both risks, probably from being held down. She's ten 0:24:49.560 --> 0:24:52.760 years old. Benson asks rape kit. They go, not yet. 0:24:53.000 --> 0:24:55.040 They just got the blood to stop, so this is 0:24:55.080 --> 0:24:59.760 pretty dramatic. He also tells Benson and Stabler that she's dehydrated, malnourished, 0:24:59.760 --> 0:25:02.960 and her arm is limited mobility, so he thinks that 0:25:03.080 --> 0:25:05.760 was a break that just wasn't treated. So this kid 0:25:05.880 --> 0:25:09.879 is really not being paid attention to and anyway, and 0:25:09.920 --> 0:25:13.240 they look through the blinds to see the patient in 0:25:13.280 --> 0:25:15.840 the room the detectives, and he says, good luck finding 0:25:15.880 --> 0:25:17.800 who did this because she won't say a word. And 0:25:17.840 --> 0:25:21.240 then it's like, okay, they haven't met Olivia Benson. Yeah, 0:25:21.320 --> 0:25:23.320 you obviously haven't met the child whisperer. 0:25:23.440 --> 0:25:26.200 So she walks in. She goes, I'm Olivia, this is Elliott. 0:25:26.280 --> 0:25:31.280 We're police officers. But she's hoping that you know, tell 0:25:31.359 --> 0:25:33.359 us what happened to you before you got to the store, 0:25:33.400 --> 0:25:34.960 and maybe that'll make you feel better. 0:25:34.960 --> 0:25:38.520 And she is visibly stressed by that. And starts shifting away, 0:25:38.520 --> 0:25:40.320 and he asked if someone said like not to talk 0:25:40.359 --> 0:25:43.880 to people and that something bad would happen, because he goes, 0:25:43.920 --> 0:25:44.720 that's not true. 0:25:45.160 --> 0:25:48.000 And if this girl looks familiar to you and you 0:25:48.080 --> 0:25:51.120 watch Nurse Jackie, this is Grace, one of Edie Falco's 0:25:51.200 --> 0:25:52.760 daughters in that shit, Oh my god. 0:25:52.640 --> 0:25:55.560 I love Grace too. Like she was the one that 0:25:55.640 --> 0:26:00.639 had like anxiety, and like that was a cool storyline. 0:26:00.680 --> 0:26:03.400 I thought for like this to show like little kid 0:26:03.440 --> 0:26:05.640 having anxiety. I just felt like I hadn't seen that, 0:26:05.760 --> 0:26:08.720 Like she just had like generalized anxiety and was always 0:26:09.400 --> 0:26:13.080 like doing kind of weird stuff that like was a 0:26:13.119 --> 0:26:16.280 manifestation of her anxiety. And I like that her character 0:26:16.320 --> 0:26:19.040 a lot, and she was a great kid actor. Yeah, 0:26:19.040 --> 0:26:21.320 I don't remember that storyline at all. 0:26:21.440 --> 0:26:23.960 I don't really remember that show outside of her doing 0:26:24.040 --> 0:26:29.159 drugs and fucking that pharmacist. So Benson is like, I 0:26:29.200 --> 0:26:30.520 bet you have such a pretty name. 0:26:30.600 --> 0:26:32.520 Let me know it. I'm sure your parents are worried 0:26:32.640 --> 0:26:33.400 sick about you. 0:26:33.920 --> 0:26:36.000 And then the nurse rolls in a cart of supplies 0:26:36.119 --> 0:26:38.439 and says it's it's time to start the kid, and 0:26:38.480 --> 0:26:41.160 the girl sees the camera and she flips the fuck out, 0:26:41.560 --> 0:26:43.800 and Benson says, what's up, and she cries and says 0:26:43.840 --> 0:26:47.280 he took pictures of me. Benson looks concerned, Elliott makes 0:26:47.280 --> 0:26:50.399 a face that conveys like, damn, the world is so evil, 0:26:50.920 --> 0:26:53.280 and then the credits we open back up on a 0:26:53.280 --> 0:26:56.920 photo of the girl and Cragan's voice saying, your little victim, 0:26:57.080 --> 0:26:58.199 which sounds off to me. 0:26:58.320 --> 0:27:00.760 I don't, I don't. I don't think you be saying that. 0:27:00.840 --> 0:27:04.240 Yeah, Elliot's like, I mean, Benson turned on all her 0:27:04.320 --> 0:27:07.400 charm and nothing. This kid said nothing, even with you know, 0:27:07.480 --> 0:27:11.280 Olivia giving it at her all. But Benson's like, this motherfucker, 0:27:11.320 --> 0:27:14.000 he took pictures of her while he raped her. But 0:27:14.160 --> 0:27:16.639 there's no fluids or fibers in the rape kids, so 0:27:16.720 --> 0:27:18.600 this is going to be a tough investigation. 0:27:19.200 --> 0:27:21.200 And she doesn't match any girls. 0:27:20.840 --> 0:27:23.760 In missing persons and Craigan asks what kind of parents 0:27:23.760 --> 0:27:26.879 don't report their kid missing? And Stabler goes one that 0:27:27.000 --> 0:27:29.640 keeps her locked away all fucking night. I think it's 0:27:29.680 --> 0:27:31.879 the dad doing this and Craigan and where did that 0:27:31.920 --> 0:27:34.760 come from? But Craigan's like, okay, let's slow down there. 0:27:34.960 --> 0:27:37.919 I'm with him, let's id the girl. Benson says, well, 0:27:37.920 --> 0:27:39.600 we can't release it to the media because in the 0:27:39.600 --> 0:27:42.200 purpose going to run for the hills. Elliott says, well, 0:27:42.200 --> 0:27:44.920 the bleeding girl couldn't get that far without someone noticing her. 0:27:45.000 --> 0:27:47.400 So let's, you know, let's see if she lives close 0:27:47.440 --> 0:27:50.680 to the market. Craigan goes, maybe the census data can 0:27:50.720 --> 0:27:53.159 help us. And now they have a census data feature 0:27:53.200 --> 0:27:56.280 on their computer and they tape in female ten white 0:27:56.320 --> 0:27:59.240 and it's searching and it finds dozens and dozens of kids. 0:27:59.280 --> 0:28:02.040 So they grab fin in munch and hit the streets 0:28:02.040 --> 0:28:03.639 and they go talk to the neighborhood and we hear 0:28:03.640 --> 0:28:05.120 a lot of no, no, No, no No. 0:28:05.600 --> 0:28:07.400 One of the no's is a fun gay man whose 0:28:07.440 --> 0:28:11.080 husband is away dropping their daughter at summer camp. I 0:28:11.119 --> 0:28:11.720 loved it. 0:28:12.040 --> 0:28:14.640 And the whole time he's talking, he's holding a giant 0:28:14.680 --> 0:28:17.400 guinea pig. I have never seen a guinea pig this big. 0:28:17.640 --> 0:28:20.320 It is so big, and so it makes me like 0:28:20.359 --> 0:28:24.280 guinea pigs because I know, I think they're irrelevant, like 0:28:24.440 --> 0:28:25.760 do they even exist anymore? 0:28:26.200 --> 0:28:28.640 Oh yeah, people love those things. They're all over TikTok 0:28:28.680 --> 0:28:31.639 and Instagram reels and stuff. Oh really well. I'm like, 0:28:31.800 --> 0:28:34.280 I'm like showing when Oscar's having a real meltdown, I'm 0:28:34.280 --> 0:28:36.960 showing him baby animal pictures because he really loves looking 0:28:36.960 --> 0:28:39.600 at like little videos of like goats and like little cows, 0:28:39.640 --> 0:28:42.120 and you know, there's all kinds of baby animal photos 0:28:42.160 --> 0:28:43.720 and there's a lot of accounts that have like millions 0:28:43.760 --> 0:28:46.719 of followers. And the guinea pigs are in there. They 0:28:46.720 --> 0:28:50.280 are working. The guinea pigs are the hedgehogs, they're in 0:28:50.320 --> 0:28:54.000 there working. Well, yeah, the hedgehogs. I'm glad the guinea pigs. 0:28:54.240 --> 0:28:56.080 I mean, because I thought maybe only kids have them, 0:28:56.080 --> 0:28:58.280 because I haven't seen a guinea pig since childhood, so 0:28:58.320 --> 0:29:00.640 I didn't know if they were just like not anymore. 0:29:00.680 --> 0:29:03.400 But this one was giant and fuzzy and I loved it, 0:29:03.960 --> 0:29:05.280 And I'm glad they're on TikTok. 0:29:05.360 --> 0:29:07.800 That's good. You know what's having a moment on tikso 0:29:07.920 --> 0:29:11.440 or the internet. Sloths. Oh well, but slots have been 0:29:11.440 --> 0:29:13.560 having a really big moment for like five years. Like 0:29:13.600 --> 0:29:15.760 when I had rosy three and a half years ago, 0:29:15.880 --> 0:29:19.960 i got three sloth levees. Like sloths were like having 0:29:20.040 --> 0:29:23.160 a big They're so cute, like you know, and like 0:29:23.200 --> 0:29:27.040 there's a sloth. Characters in use Zutopia like yeah, oh yeah, 0:29:27.080 --> 0:29:31.680 the DM slots are the DMB but their claws are 0:29:31.760 --> 0:29:34.200 so big? Are they dangerous or are they slow? Like 0:29:34.320 --> 0:29:37.040 I thin, great question. I keep seeing people. The things 0:29:37.040 --> 0:29:39.880 I'm seeing are like people handing their babies to like 0:29:40.520 --> 0:29:44.440 they lose a little baby sloth and so they reunite. 0:29:44.560 --> 0:29:47.320 They like, give you've not seen it? So then they 0:29:47.360 --> 0:29:49.920 show the mom sloth the baby sloth and it's like 0:29:50.360 --> 0:29:53.320 the mom gets so excited and then needs to be 0:29:53.360 --> 0:29:55.560 on the baby animal sites. I'm on, what the hell? 0:29:56.200 --> 0:29:58.200 And so I've seen a couple videos like that where 0:29:58.240 --> 0:29:59.800 people will like pick up the kid and give it 0:29:59.840 --> 0:30:02.240 back to the sloth and the sloth does look happy, 0:30:02.800 --> 0:30:05.040 but their talent Like if I see a sloth in 0:30:05.080 --> 0:30:07.880 the wild, can I approach or am I gonna get? 0:30:09.000 --> 0:30:11.640 Yeah? But how fast do they even swipe? Is it 0:30:11.760 --> 0:30:13.680 just like a slow dragging? 0:30:14.120 --> 0:30:17.360 Okay, Sloths to become agitated or feel threat and may 0:30:17.440 --> 0:30:20.240 use their teeth or long nails to cause pain. 0:30:20.920 --> 0:30:23.800 Okay, so I would not agitate that little slot, but 0:30:23.800 --> 0:30:25.280 I don't want to agitate. But what if I gave 0:30:25.280 --> 0:30:28.240 it a celery stock, you know what I mean. I'm 0:30:28.240 --> 0:30:30.400 sure if you come bearing food, it's not gonna swipe that. 0:30:30.880 --> 0:30:33.000 I'm sorry. There's so many tangents. We're only in the 0:30:33.040 --> 0:30:36.240 ax one. But so when I was in Australia, we 0:30:36.320 --> 0:30:38.360 got to meet koalas. 0:30:38.440 --> 0:30:39.760 That's like, what you do, you know what I mean. 0:30:39.840 --> 0:30:41.800 Yeah, So we went to this animal place and then 0:30:41.840 --> 0:30:43.320 we're waiting in line and we're with the group and 0:30:43.320 --> 0:30:46.200 they're giving us instructions. They're like, don't shake the tree, 0:30:46.280 --> 0:30:48.600 don't make this, don't make that, like all these things, 0:30:48.640 --> 0:30:51.520 and then the koala is right there and we could 0:30:51.520 --> 0:30:53.360 have taken photos right next to the kuala and then 0:30:53.400 --> 0:30:56.840 this dumb bitch woman and her kid are like shaking 0:30:56.880 --> 0:30:59.320 the tree, being loud, being noisy, and so the koala 0:30:59.360 --> 0:31:02.000 climbed up, and so all of our photos are like 0:31:02.040 --> 0:31:05.040 from below and the kualas above us. But also these 0:31:05.080 --> 0:31:07.520 bitches were Australian and it's like, you can come here 0:31:07.600 --> 0:31:08.280 all the time. 0:31:09.000 --> 0:31:12.360 Know we came from across the fucking planet. Let us 0:31:12.360 --> 0:31:12.800 be near it. 0:31:12.840 --> 0:31:15.520 And it's like you broke every rule, and I wait, 0:31:15.640 --> 0:31:18.280 I wish I punched them in the face. Honestly, like 0:31:18.320 --> 0:31:20.600 we were the it was Emily Heller was there too, 0:31:20.640 --> 0:31:21.840 so you know we were like pissed. 0:31:22.040 --> 0:31:29.120 Yeah, oh god, that's awful. Well, Oscar's been saying koala lately, 0:31:29.160 --> 0:31:30.680 he says, kalalaka. 0:31:30.760 --> 0:31:32.160 Well, well, I told you one of our friends was 0:31:32.160 --> 0:31:34.400 so wasted that they couldn't guess Koala on the heads 0:31:34.480 --> 0:31:41.440 up game, which is so easy, so easy. 0:31:42.200 --> 0:31:43.960 So I'm very into the s guinea pig. 0:31:44.000 --> 0:31:47.160 Obviously we've we went on a tangent that took us 0:31:47.160 --> 0:31:50.120 to a lot of places. But Munch is not impressed, 0:31:50.160 --> 0:31:52.400 and Munch is like, people eat those in Peru and 0:31:52.440 --> 0:31:55.200 then he walks away. So there's a kid's club and 0:31:55.200 --> 0:31:57.720 they go to this kids club. No one recognizes this girl. 0:31:57.760 --> 0:31:59.720 They go to a pizza shop. Can't I d her? 0:32:00.160 --> 0:32:02.640 But the pizza guy is passionate and he's like, fuck, man, 0:32:02.680 --> 0:32:03.840 I wish I could help you. 0:32:04.520 --> 0:32:07.400 And he goes asks Gina, and Gina's holding the pizza 0:32:07.440 --> 0:32:10.920 delivery pouch, so she's out in them streets and so 0:32:11.800 --> 0:32:15.040 she says she's seen this girl lots of times. She's 0:32:15.080 --> 0:32:17.360 always in the doorway when Gina delivers a pie to 0:32:17.400 --> 0:32:20.400 her folks, but never says anything, and she knows the 0:32:20.440 --> 0:32:22.960 address and the apartment number off the top of her head, 0:32:23.400 --> 0:32:26.040 and she says she's sure the girl lives there. 0:32:26.320 --> 0:32:29.680 And I don't even know my sister's address and apartment 0:32:29.760 --> 0:32:32.240 number off the top of my head, Like that's why 0:32:32.240 --> 0:32:33.080 I well. 0:32:33.040 --> 0:32:35.160 I was actually just thinking this because like now we 0:32:35.200 --> 0:32:38.440 have postmates, so they don't remember, like it's always someone different. 0:32:38.920 --> 0:32:41.840 But if you ordered a pizza, let's say, once a 0:32:41.880 --> 0:32:43.360 week every week. 0:32:43.200 --> 0:32:47.400 For three years, maybe they'd know. Yeah, yeah, like Friday night, 0:32:47.480 --> 0:32:51.240 pizza night, like you're always doing it. Yeah, you're right, 0:32:51.480 --> 0:32:53.640 like if it's the local a lot of times when 0:32:53.640 --> 0:32:57.000 you have the same delivery person, yeah, yeah. Or because 0:32:57.040 --> 0:33:00.160 even the episode we did all to Cockers was like, 0:33:00.200 --> 0:33:03.000 oh the deli delivery guy did this for me, you know, 0:33:03.080 --> 0:33:06.120 it was like you had some sort of relationship with 0:33:06.160 --> 0:33:10.000 these people, right and now they now now they leave 0:33:10.000 --> 0:33:12.320 the food outside the door on the floor, and it's like, 0:33:12.360 --> 0:33:17.360 I feel like a little raccoon. I just like scurrying 0:33:17.600 --> 0:33:20.880 your garbage. Oh yeah, I think I said this on 0:33:20.920 --> 0:33:22.560 the poto a long time when I was staying with 0:33:22.640 --> 0:33:25.600 Julia in Lane. I opened it and I was topless 0:33:25.640 --> 0:33:27.440 and the guy was still there taking a photo. That 0:33:27.520 --> 0:33:33.520 he to prove me delivered the food. Oh my god, 0:33:33.600 --> 0:33:38.880 that's so funny. Yeah, I just don't like being fully closed, 0:33:38.920 --> 0:33:42.000 like I need either to the bottle if you like 0:33:42.080 --> 0:33:44.440 sent you the photo, it's like you tits out with 0:33:44.480 --> 0:33:46.320 like a bag of food on the ground and he's like, 0:33:46.640 --> 0:33:47.680 your delivery's here. 0:33:50.680 --> 0:33:53.520 But yeah, so but this girl says a boy lives 0:33:53.520 --> 0:33:55.480 there too, that she's heard his voice. So we arrive 0:33:55.560 --> 0:33:58.680 at Jeff and Amber Semanski's house on East twenty eighth 0:33:58.720 --> 0:34:01.480 Street and it's September for so they found her right 0:34:02.480 --> 0:34:03.800 after my birthday. 0:34:03.400 --> 0:34:06.000 Which doesn't really make sense if the guy was taking 0:34:06.000 --> 0:34:09.560 his daughter to summer camp. But go on, oh my god. 0:34:11.160 --> 0:34:14.640 I immediately thought, oh, okay, so it's like June because 0:34:14.640 --> 0:34:16.600 of camp camp starts in June, or if you go 0:34:16.760 --> 0:34:19.440 mid session, it starts in July, but it doesn't start September. 0:34:19.800 --> 0:34:22.440 Oh my god. They should have said pick up from 0:34:22.560 --> 0:34:25.879 summer camp. And even then August thirty first is late 0:34:25.880 --> 0:34:29.560 to be at camp. That's such god. 0:34:29.560 --> 0:34:34.879 Love date plot holes, well or any plot holes, because 0:34:34.880 --> 0:34:37.319 this is such a meticulous like I'll our guess say, 0:34:37.360 --> 0:34:38.600 well oiled machine. 0:34:39.160 --> 0:34:42.160 Yeah, but when we're able to like fenangle in. I 0:34:42.200 --> 0:34:42.879 know that we have a. 0:34:42.840 --> 0:34:50.000 True problem, true true problem. So NYPD open up, yell stabler. 0:34:50.440 --> 0:34:52.399 Benson leans to the door and says she can hear 0:34:52.440 --> 0:34:52.799 the TV. 0:34:52.960 --> 0:34:54.640 Let's go. We know you're home. 0:34:54.760 --> 0:34:57.160 We hear daddy, no stop, And so they kick down 0:34:57.239 --> 0:34:58.560 the door, enter guns first. 0:34:58.920 --> 0:35:00.680 They yell and nobody reacting. 0:35:01.000 --> 0:35:02.719 Now we can hear their voices and it's like they're 0:35:02.719 --> 0:35:05.360 not hiding or pretending to not be home. They're fully 0:35:05.400 --> 0:35:07.600 chit chatting, like the cops didn't just kick their door. 0:35:08.040 --> 0:35:10.279 And we walk in finally, and it's a couple playing 0:35:10.360 --> 0:35:12.840 video games and it's a snow filled land with gothic 0:35:12.920 --> 0:35:16.600 leather freaks fighting dragons. So that's the game. If if 0:35:16.600 --> 0:35:18.600 we have any gamers out there that know what game 0:35:18.680 --> 0:35:22.560 this is based on or anything. The woman says, hold on, Caleb, 0:35:22.600 --> 0:35:27.840 Mommy's coming. And they keep playing and they look like slobs. Okay, 0:35:27.920 --> 0:35:31.960 greasy vibes, have not showered in a minute. Yeah, And 0:35:32.040 --> 0:35:35.160 he looked familiar and it's because I recently rewatched Downloaded 0:35:35.239 --> 0:35:38.600 Childs and we covered that and he played Megan Fay. 0:35:38.640 --> 0:35:42.720 He's like the ex husband who would rape her. Oh yes, 0:35:43.080 --> 0:35:46.560 who like admitted to marital rate. Yes, apps absolutely, and 0:35:46.680 --> 0:35:52.200 so two episodes in both times playing a fucking slob. 0:35:51.120 --> 0:35:54.600 Which is interesting. But also, did you watch the White 0:35:54.600 --> 0:35:58.879 Lotus season two trailer? No, our girl Megan Fayhe is 0:35:58.920 --> 0:35:59.760 in the trailer. 0:36:00.040 --> 0:36:03.560 She's in She's yeah, like, she has like two three 0:36:03.600 --> 0:36:07.600 scenes in the trailer. Ooh, I'm excited for her, and 0:36:07.640 --> 0:36:10.600 she looks gorgeous and like the whole I just oh 0:36:10.640 --> 0:36:11.960 my god, I cannot wait. 0:36:12.160 --> 0:36:16.719 I kind of yes, I'm so excited. Okay, I just 0:36:16.800 --> 0:36:19.520 love television. Did you watch There was a video clip 0:36:19.520 --> 0:36:21.560 of Diane Keaton on Oprah. It was like the first 0:36:22.040 --> 0:36:22.840 and she goes. 0:36:22.719 --> 0:36:25.080 I just love to watch my TV. I like to 0:36:25.120 --> 0:36:26.759 watch the television and. 0:36:26.719 --> 0:36:29.040 Everyone's shitting on her, and I'm like, thank god for 0:36:29.120 --> 0:36:31.200 Diane key and yeah, I love watching TV. 0:36:31.320 --> 0:36:33.200 I'm not ashamed. Get away from me. I feel like 0:36:33.360 --> 0:36:36.919 she's laughing so hard and she's just like unabashedly like, yes, 0:36:37.160 --> 0:36:39.520 TV is my hobby, That's what I do. And I 0:36:39.600 --> 0:36:41.280 was like, girl, yes. 0:36:41.600 --> 0:36:44.319 Yes, stop shaming me, bitch. And I feel like I'm 0:36:44.360 --> 0:36:46.359 outside enough. I get to watch as much TV as 0:36:46.360 --> 0:36:50.920 I want. So Benson looks so confused and horrified and 0:36:50.960 --> 0:36:53.759 can't understand what's happening, which says a lot considering she 0:36:53.880 --> 0:36:55.080 has seen it all. 0:36:55.719 --> 0:36:57.759 Yes, and they are fully not hearing the. 0:36:57.719 --> 0:37:00.480 Detectives, and so Benson starts pulling out or it's trying 0:37:00.480 --> 0:37:02.680 to unplug the consoles and shut the TV down, And 0:37:02.680 --> 0:37:03.560 finally they're. 0:37:03.360 --> 0:37:06.080 Like, whoa where did you come from? And Stabler yells 0:37:06.120 --> 0:37:09.799 the real world? What does it find out? What's the 0:37:09.840 --> 0:37:13.120 real world MTV slogan when people stop being polite and 0:37:13.160 --> 0:37:17.400 start getting real Yeah, thank you, okay, okay. 0:37:17.440 --> 0:37:19.960 So he pushed the lazy boy forward and makes the 0:37:19.960 --> 0:37:21.680 man fly up and he's like, this. 0:37:21.600 --> 0:37:23.839 Is level twenty and our boy needs. 0:37:23.600 --> 0:37:27.080 Us, and Benson pushes the woman forward, like start moving 0:37:27.160 --> 0:37:29.560 and says, the way you treat kids, he's better off 0:37:29.560 --> 0:37:30.520 without you, lady. 0:37:30.920 --> 0:37:31.240 Caleb. 0:37:31.360 --> 0:37:33.960 The computer child dies and falls off the snowy ledge 0:37:33.960 --> 0:37:37.040 and Benson walks the man into interrogation and he's like, listen, 0:37:37.120 --> 0:37:39.160 I really got to get back, and Benson's like, wow, 0:37:39.160 --> 0:37:40.840 that game really has you buy the balls? 0:37:40.960 --> 0:37:41.400 Huh? 0:37:41.440 --> 0:37:43.960 And he's like, I'm not even addicted, and Benson schools 0:37:43.960 --> 0:37:48.280 is as like, babe, you're sweating and so uh you 0:37:48.360 --> 0:37:51.600 stink like, you haven't bathed in a month, You're a junkie. 0:37:51.680 --> 0:37:54.680 He says, no, Ambers has the problem. I can stop whenever. 0:37:55.000 --> 0:37:56.920 And then Amber is telling Stabler how they met a 0:37:57.000 --> 0:38:01.120 year ago online and a tournament hosted in South Korea. Okay, 0:38:01.160 --> 0:38:05.439 worldly and he had the cutest avatar and only lived 0:38:05.440 --> 0:38:08.520 three blocks away. And Stabler's like, hey, that's fate. So 0:38:08.560 --> 0:38:11.440 then they started playing twenty four to seven after she 0:38:11.480 --> 0:38:13.920 won her settlement from the city in May, and so 0:38:13.960 --> 0:38:16.640 they're doing a classic back and forth interrogation room and 0:38:16.640 --> 0:38:18.680 then Jeff says that Amber got hit by a bus. 0:38:18.920 --> 0:38:20.440 They were on their way to Best Buy to get 0:38:20.480 --> 0:38:22.480 in line to buy a new game, and he's like, 0:38:22.960 --> 0:38:24.919 the sound of her head made it when it's hits 0:38:24.960 --> 0:38:25.480 the ground. 0:38:28.080 --> 0:38:30.440 He like remembers the sound that her head made when 0:38:30.440 --> 0:38:31.000 I hit the ground. 0:38:31.080 --> 0:38:32.719 Yeah, I didn't mean to laugh, but I'm like so 0:38:33.280 --> 0:38:35.960 upset by hearing that. And imagine, yeah, that I'm smiling. 0:38:36.200 --> 0:38:37.920 That is a bad quality of mine. Like if I'm 0:38:38.000 --> 0:38:40.600 uncomfortable with sad news, I will just smile. And it's 0:38:40.640 --> 0:38:43.000 like fucked up. And but I don't think a lot 0:38:43.000 --> 0:38:45.279 of people do that. Yeah, but it's fucked like I 0:38:45.320 --> 0:38:47.720 feel like like I should be in that movie Smile 0:38:47.800 --> 0:38:48.359 that came out. 0:38:49.280 --> 0:38:52.160 Fuck, Karen saw it. Did he like it? Dave? That's 0:38:52.280 --> 0:38:56.520 Dave Mazzoni's friend is the lead, and he said, he 0:38:56.520 --> 0:38:58.120 said he had some problems with it, but it was 0:38:58.160 --> 0:38:58.840 good and he liked it. 0:38:58.920 --> 0:39:01.000 Yeah, I want to see pr God, there's just so 0:39:01.120 --> 0:39:04.480 much goodness out. Got to see Barber I mean, the 0:39:04.600 --> 0:39:06.440 movies are well. 0:39:06.440 --> 0:39:08.400 He saw Barbarian and he loved that. I know, I 0:39:08.400 --> 0:39:11.920 can't wait. And you know, our fellow exactly right, Buddy 0:39:12.040 --> 0:39:15.440 Banana's podcast host kurb ronald Or is in Barbaria. Someone 0:39:15.440 --> 0:39:18.440 did tell me that. Yeah, I can't wait. Oh my god, 0:39:19.200 --> 0:39:21.840 he's fine. Oh my god. Okay, so many good movies. 0:39:22.640 --> 0:39:24.000 So yeah, they were on their way to the Best 0:39:24.040 --> 0:39:27.040 Buy and then her head hit the ground after getting 0:39:27.120 --> 0:39:30.440 hit by a bus. Eke did not want to imagine that. 0:39:30.440 --> 0:39:32.840 That's what I wrote, like it does. It's an upsetting 0:39:33.440 --> 0:39:36.439 into envision and Benson's like, well, I wish you cared 0:39:36.440 --> 0:39:38.560 it all about your what your child has been through, 0:39:38.600 --> 0:39:41.239 and he says, callabill be okay, and she yells it, says, 0:39:41.239 --> 0:39:44.120 I'm talking about your real child. And then he shows uh. 0:39:44.200 --> 0:39:46.560 She shows a photo of Rose to him and he says, 0:39:46.600 --> 0:39:48.880 that's not his kid. She calls me daddy sometimes, but 0:39:48.960 --> 0:39:52.920 some other dude knocked up Amber, and so Benson sternly says, okay, fine, 0:39:52.960 --> 0:39:55.400 so you're just her stepdad that keeps her locked underneath 0:39:55.400 --> 0:39:58.960 the stairs, who throws her pizza crust every now and 0:39:59.000 --> 0:40:00.920 then when you get bored, you go in there and 0:40:01.040 --> 0:40:03.480 rape her. And that's when he snaps into reality and 0:40:03.520 --> 0:40:05.920 he's like, wait, what Rose escaped? Like he had no 0:40:06.000 --> 0:40:08.439 idea she was gone. That's a little attention they paid 0:40:08.440 --> 0:40:10.399 to this girl. And then he's like, so she ran 0:40:10.440 --> 0:40:13.160 away and somebody raped her. And Benson leans in with 0:40:13.239 --> 0:40:15.920 her hands on the table and Lolly says, not somebody, 0:40:15.960 --> 0:40:18.960 but you, Jeff, you raped her, and he says, pause 0:40:19.040 --> 0:40:21.319 the game. I haven't had sex with anybody in like 0:40:21.480 --> 0:40:25.520 six months at least. And Amber also is like, I 0:40:25.560 --> 0:40:27.880 have a daughter named Rose somewhere, but this photo is 0:40:27.920 --> 0:40:30.399 not her. But this is not my daughter, but this 0:40:30.440 --> 0:40:33.600 girl has been living in our apartment. So she's denying 0:40:33.600 --> 0:40:38.120 this as her daughter, but is agreeing that this girl 0:40:38.160 --> 0:40:38.879 does live with her. 0:40:39.920 --> 0:40:41.200 So Elliot's like, all. 0:40:41.080 --> 0:40:44.160 Of you know, as the viewers were like, wait, what. 0:40:43.680 --> 0:40:45.880 What's going on here? You know, Neil Bhaer, what are 0:40:45.880 --> 0:40:47.759 you throwing at us? What are you giving us now? 0:40:48.520 --> 0:40:50.839 And so the mom is like, but she's an impostor, 0:40:51.680 --> 0:40:54.280 and she's like yeah. She says all these stories about 0:40:54.280 --> 0:40:57.040 my daughter and like what you used to do before, Jeff. 0:40:57.040 --> 0:40:59.800 She even calls me mommy, and it's like this bitch 0:40:59.840 --> 0:41:02.399 is not putting it together. And Stabler is like, yeah, 0:41:02.400 --> 0:41:04.600 because this girl is your daughter, and she rips the 0:41:04.600 --> 0:41:07.799 photo and half them screams, stop, no, this is not 0:41:07.920 --> 0:41:10.759 my daughter Rose. So then Stabler doesn't know what to do, 0:41:10.840 --> 0:41:13.560 so think God. George Hwang came in on his lunch 0:41:13.600 --> 0:41:16.760 break from the FBI, and in the spy window says 0:41:17.120 --> 0:41:22.440 that it appears she's suffering from Capgris's delusion, rare mental 0:41:22.480 --> 0:41:26.360 disorder where patients suddenly believe that their loved ones have 0:41:26.520 --> 0:41:30.200 been replaced by duplicates. Benson and Stabler look at each 0:41:30.239 --> 0:41:33.040 other quick like cartoon characters, then back at Huang, who 0:41:33.040 --> 0:41:36.560 continues that it's like the movie Invasion of the Body Snatcher, 0:41:36.600 --> 0:41:39.759 but no pods, just the head injury that severed her 0:41:39.800 --> 0:41:42.160 emotional responses to her child. 0:41:42.280 --> 0:41:44.920 So and it's funny that we just I look this 0:41:45.080 --> 0:41:47.600 up when I was watching the episode, And it's funny 0:41:47.600 --> 0:41:51.360 that we just I just mentioned prosopagnosia face blindness, because 0:41:51.760 --> 0:41:54.280 there are some theories that think that these two are linked. 0:41:54.360 --> 0:41:57.120 Like when you suddenly develop like a face blindness or 0:41:57.120 --> 0:42:01.120 something so you don't recognize people that are close to 0:42:01.160 --> 0:42:04.760 you or in your life, you know that sucks and cousins, 0:42:04.760 --> 0:42:09.160 they're distance cousins, these two weird disorders. Yeah, oh okay, 0:42:09.320 --> 0:42:11.160 so the disorders are cousins. Yes. 0:42:12.120 --> 0:42:14.480 Benson is like, oh damn, this must have happened to 0:42:14.520 --> 0:42:15.640 her after she got hit. 0:42:15.520 --> 0:42:16.160 By the bus. 0:42:16.640 --> 0:42:18.840 He's like, you know, she can see the girl looks 0:42:18.840 --> 0:42:21.040 and sounds like her daughter Rose, but her ability to 0:42:21.080 --> 0:42:24.399 feel any love for her is gone, and that could 0:42:24.400 --> 0:42:28.359 fuel the indifference to the stepfather fucking raping her. 0:42:28.719 --> 0:42:31.520 And Benson is like, what about the guy? And Huang's like, 0:42:31.560 --> 0:42:35.719 besides an Internet addiction, he's just a jerk. So how 0:42:35.760 --> 0:42:37.480 do we get the mom to flip on Jeff? And 0:42:37.520 --> 0:42:40.279 Huang says there's a visual disconnect. So Benson's like, oh, 0:42:40.320 --> 0:42:42.680 but maybe if she hears her without seeing her, that 0:42:42.800 --> 0:42:45.640 might help her remember her daughter. So Rose starts talking 0:42:45.640 --> 0:42:47.440 over the intercom and the mom smiles and he's like, 0:42:47.520 --> 0:42:49.200 is that really you? And she goes, yeah, it's really me, 0:42:49.280 --> 0:42:51.000 and the mom gets happy and wants to see her, 0:42:51.000 --> 0:42:54.080 but Stabler's like, no, just listen, and she says, tell 0:42:54.080 --> 0:42:56.120 them what Jeff did to me, how he hurt me. 0:42:56.680 --> 0:42:58.879 She says, oh, baby, I'm sorry. Where did you go? 0:42:58.960 --> 0:43:01.120 I went looking for you. He put me in that 0:43:01.200 --> 0:43:04.080 room and nobody gave me any food. She says, sweetheart, 0:43:04.080 --> 0:43:06.239 I didn't know, and Jeff said you were fine, and 0:43:06.280 --> 0:43:08.879 then some other girl came to stay with us. Why 0:43:08.880 --> 0:43:11.120 did you stop loving me, she asked, and she says, no, 0:43:11.200 --> 0:43:12.319 I love you with all my heart. 0:43:12.760 --> 0:43:14.680 And then you know, you know, Rose says I love 0:43:14.719 --> 0:43:16.960 you too, And finally Rose can't like she runs in 0:43:17.000 --> 0:43:18.960 and Benson tries to stop her, but can't. 0:43:19.320 --> 0:43:20.520 I guess this kid, you. 0:43:20.400 --> 0:43:24.640 Know, can out maneuver Olivia Benson and runs in and 0:43:24.640 --> 0:43:26.759 so she hugs Amber and Amber's like, you are not 0:43:27.000 --> 0:43:30.000 my daughter and pushes her off of her. I don't 0:43:30.000 --> 0:43:32.239 know what kind of psychological trauma this is gonna do 0:43:32.320 --> 0:43:32.800 for Rose. 0:43:33.000 --> 0:43:33.319 I am. 0:43:35.280 --> 0:43:37.759 Rose is crying and screaming like yes, I am, Yes, 0:43:37.840 --> 0:43:41.200 I am. And then oh my god, this bitch slaps 0:43:41.800 --> 0:43:44.680 Rose across the face and screams, you tricked me, you 0:43:44.719 --> 0:43:45.319 a little bit. 0:43:45.480 --> 0:43:47.600 You are not my daughter. And Rose is crying and 0:43:47.640 --> 0:43:50.120 Benson's trying to console and help her. Oh my god. 0:43:50.480 --> 0:43:52.600 And now Rose and Benson are chatting in a room and 0:43:52.640 --> 0:43:57.040 she asks, what's gonna happen to my mom? And Benson's like, Rose, 0:43:57.080 --> 0:43:59.600 your mom is very sick and she let your stepdad 0:43:59.600 --> 0:44:00.560 do bad to you. 0:44:00.640 --> 0:44:02.319 But he well, we're gonna lock him up. 0:44:02.320 --> 0:44:04.600 He won't do anything ever again to you and he'll 0:44:04.640 --> 0:44:06.959 never make you bleed. And she says that wasn't him, 0:44:07.239 --> 0:44:09.959 and Benson confirms, and she says the other man hurt 0:44:10.000 --> 0:44:13.359 me down there. So Benson's like, so after he ran 0:44:13.400 --> 0:44:15.680 away from the apartment, She's like, I was so hungry, 0:44:15.719 --> 0:44:18.080 I ran away to get something to eat, and that's 0:44:18.080 --> 0:44:20.400 when the other man grabbed me. And Benson asked if 0:44:20.440 --> 0:44:22.360 she remembers what he looked like, and she says he 0:44:22.400 --> 0:44:24.839 had something over his face, but his voice was mean. 0:44:25.239 --> 0:44:27.759 And Benson asks where it happened and she says in 0:44:27.800 --> 0:44:31.520 the jungle gym area at laughing time. So that's the 0:44:31.600 --> 0:44:33.600 kids club that they were at earlier, who said they 0:44:33.600 --> 0:44:35.759 did not recognize Rose, So what's up? 0:44:35.880 --> 0:44:36.359 What's up? 0:44:36.920 --> 0:44:40.040 So now we're on a blow up screen of Laugheytime's 0:44:40.080 --> 0:44:42.359 website and Munch is chatting about it. He says it's 0:44:42.360 --> 0:44:45.480 a magical land of fun in games and sexual assault, 0:44:45.960 --> 0:44:48.800 and Stabler says he was there yesterday and showed Rose's 0:44:48.840 --> 0:44:50.640 picture to the owner, who said, you know, she doesn't 0:44:50.640 --> 0:44:53.319 remember her. Then Munch says, well, did this lady mention 0:44:53.480 --> 0:44:56.440 that she has a PERV on the payroll? And he 0:44:56.480 --> 0:44:58.840 found some reviews on the site and one uh says 0:44:58.880 --> 0:45:00.560 that don't go to Lafey Time. There's a guy who 0:45:00.640 --> 0:45:03.680 touches kids. So they immediately speed over there and the 0:45:03.760 --> 0:45:06.480 lady's like, oh, hello again. Any luck finding the girl 0:45:06.520 --> 0:45:10.080 who is attacked, and Sabler says, well, we found her name, 0:45:10.120 --> 0:45:12.360 and now we need help finding another one from you. 0:45:13.160 --> 0:45:15.960 And Benson asks what men work at Laughey Time and 0:45:16.000 --> 0:45:18.200 she says they have no male employees because it works 0:45:18.239 --> 0:45:20.560 out best to only have women around the kids. And 0:45:20.719 --> 0:45:23.320 right as she lies, a giant grown man is running 0:45:23.320 --> 0:45:25.440 with the kids and they're like, well, who's that and 0:45:25.480 --> 0:45:28.239 they all run towards him, she says, that's Stuart, and 0:45:28.320 --> 0:45:32.839 Stuart is played by Adrian Martinez and Tommy Prolific. So 0:45:33.320 --> 0:45:36.120 the big thing with him is he's in the episode 0:45:36.120 --> 0:45:40.280 of Sex and the City. Remember when Samantha does. 0:45:40.160 --> 0:45:43.200 The naked photo shoot and Buster. 0:45:43.520 --> 0:45:45.520 What's his name? What's his real name? I never remember 0:45:45.560 --> 0:45:48.720 his real name? Gary and Buster like his characters, Tony 0:45:48.760 --> 0:45:50.360 Hale's in this episode. 0:45:49.880 --> 0:45:53.040 Buster for Tony Hale. Yeah, Tony Hale's in this Sex 0:45:53.040 --> 0:45:53.759 and the City as well. 0:45:53.800 --> 0:45:56.560 So Samantha has a naked photo shoot and then she 0:45:57.520 --> 0:45:59.600 wants attention for it and the framer won't give her 0:45:59.640 --> 0:46:02.279 at ten time, so then she hangs it by the 0:46:02.320 --> 0:46:06.560 door and Adrian Martinez delivers her fast food and then 0:46:06.600 --> 0:46:08.920 he sees the photo and goes nice ass, and then 0:46:08.920 --> 0:46:12.560 she tips some extras him more cash. So that really 0:46:12.560 --> 0:46:15.520 makes me happy. And he's also an inside me Schumer 0:46:15.640 --> 0:46:17.520 and I feel pretty So he. 0:46:17.480 --> 0:46:19.279 Looks very familiar to me. I looked him up. 0:46:19.280 --> 0:46:22.600 But this is the second Schumer connect in this episode. 0:46:22.920 --> 0:46:26.840 Oh remember Rock from up Top the Bodego New Yorkers. 0:46:26.840 --> 0:46:29.480 New Yorkers. Schumer is one of the only shows that 0:46:29.640 --> 0:46:31.480 shot that shoots in New York in the past, Like, 0:46:31.600 --> 0:46:33.760 you know, I like along with this one. 0:46:33.840 --> 0:46:35.880 I mean, you know this about me nothing new, But 0:46:35.920 --> 0:46:38.080 I love people that don't move to LA like I 0:46:38.160 --> 0:46:41.319 really do. I love people that are just crushing it 0:46:41.360 --> 0:46:43.279 on the East Coast. But yeah, he has one hundred 0:46:43.280 --> 0:46:46.240 and seventeen credits. So all the adults come at Stewart 0:46:46.480 --> 0:46:48.920 and he starts screaming in sits down and the employee 0:46:48.920 --> 0:46:52.360 women is like, don't hurt Stewart. And finally, Stuart's a 0:46:52.360 --> 0:46:55.640 funny name. It reminds me of Mad TV. Yeah, sure, 0:46:57.200 --> 0:46:59.880 and finally confesses that it is her son. And he 0:47:00.000 --> 0:47:03.560 friends very childlike and it's obvious he is intellectually disabled. 0:47:03.800 --> 0:47:05.800 So he's like, hey, are you taking me to jail 0:47:05.880 --> 0:47:08.799 or what? And they're like, it depends where were you 0:47:08.800 --> 0:47:10.800 two nights ago? And he says he was at church 0:47:10.880 --> 0:47:13.560 Tuesday night and he loves church because God loves him. 0:47:13.880 --> 0:47:15.560 And he says that a lot of people saw him 0:47:15.600 --> 0:47:17.680 at church and he was with his mom. But you 0:47:17.719 --> 0:47:20.640 won't believe me because I'm a registered sex offender. 0:47:22.000 --> 0:47:23.360 And Stabler asks her. 0:47:23.280 --> 0:47:25.359 Is that true, and she's like, yes, technically, but it's 0:47:25.400 --> 0:47:28.360 a mistake and Benson's like, so is having him around kids? 0:47:28.360 --> 0:47:31.040 That's a felony. And the mom says, my boy is different. 0:47:31.040 --> 0:47:34.320 It's called Noonan syndrome. And so they asked how he 0:47:34.360 --> 0:47:37.960 got on the registry. So he was a bat boy 0:47:38.040 --> 0:47:40.640 for a softball league in Central Park and the bathroom 0:47:40.719 --> 0:47:42.760 lines were long, and so he pede in the bushes 0:47:43.239 --> 0:47:45.680 and then Stewart interrupts to say people saw his wi 0:47:45.800 --> 0:47:48.840 wi and then the mom says it was a simple mistake, 0:47:48.880 --> 0:47:51.360 but a parent said that he flashed people and you 0:47:51.400 --> 0:47:53.840 know kids, YadA YadA, and. 0:47:53.719 --> 0:47:57.120 So there we go. That's that. That's how I got. 0:47:57.440 --> 0:47:59.480 There needs to be a separate registry. There should be 0:47:59.480 --> 0:48:01.440 a piss red street and a sexistry. 0:48:01.600 --> 0:48:04.960 The eye was pissing registry seems like it's very long, 0:48:05.400 --> 0:48:08.240 Like yeah, like what the fuck? Because if you're drunk 0:48:08.239 --> 0:48:10.640 and you pissed and your like a closed school, you 0:48:10.680 --> 0:48:12.360 can get on the sex of frond of registry. I 0:48:12.360 --> 0:48:15.879 think even if it's like nighttime and there's like you're 0:48:15.880 --> 0:48:18.239 in a school zone. I don't know. 0:48:19.000 --> 0:48:21.000 I don't think you should piss on a school, but 0:48:22.440 --> 0:48:25.000 I think it's different than ray. 0:48:25.040 --> 0:48:26.600 I don't think that means you need to tell your 0:48:26.640 --> 0:48:29.680 neighbors that you touch children. Yeah, like it's kind of 0:48:30.280 --> 0:48:33.719 it is. Why why do we leave that? I don't know? 0:48:34.239 --> 0:48:36.719 Oh, and then Benson's like, listen those reviews, Like we 0:48:36.760 --> 0:48:38.080 don't like the review on the website. 0:48:38.080 --> 0:48:41.120 It's troubling. She says she tried to delete them, but hey. 0:48:41.520 --> 0:48:43.279 But she said it must be the same people that 0:48:43.320 --> 0:48:45.799 put these around the neighborhood, and then shows Benson a 0:48:45.800 --> 0:48:48.120 paper sign with her son's photo and inn red think 0:48:48.200 --> 0:48:51.680 font says, I touch kids at Laughey time and it's 0:48:51.680 --> 0:48:55.839 from CoAP Citizens Organized Against Predators And they know one 0:48:55.840 --> 0:48:59.760 of these concerned citizens, Eric Weber and Eric at Weber, 0:48:59.800 --> 0:49:02.480 was an episode right before this with Joan Cusack called 0:49:02.560 --> 0:49:05.120 Locum and then this one. So they know who he 0:49:05.200 --> 0:49:07.480 is and he has seventy five episodes of Loss and 0:49:07.560 --> 0:49:08.920 fifty seven other credits. 0:49:09.000 --> 0:49:11.200 Do you know this man? No? I only know him 0:49:11.200 --> 0:49:12.879 from this episode? Okay, cool. 0:49:13.440 --> 0:49:16.040 So they go visit him and he's teaching kids karate 0:49:16.239 --> 0:49:20.239 while yelling kick block, et cetera. The detectives interrupt him 0:49:20.280 --> 0:49:22.160 to chat and someone takes over the class and he 0:49:22.200 --> 0:49:24.520 wants to fuck Olivia and is very happy to see 0:49:24.560 --> 0:49:27.480 her and they confront him and the sign, and he's like, 0:49:27.520 --> 0:49:30.279 what did we do something wrong? The community should know 0:49:30.320 --> 0:49:32.759 if there's a creep in the neighborhood. They say the 0:49:32.800 --> 0:49:34.920 wanted signs aren't the best way to go about it, 0:49:35.239 --> 0:49:37.600 but he says, this is info that's easily found on 0:49:37.640 --> 0:49:39.759 the internet, so it's not like a secret. And then 0:49:39.760 --> 0:49:42.919 he starts chatting over like about an app that helps 0:49:42.960 --> 0:49:48.560 find creeps all around us and it's called purv Pointer's 0:49:48.719 --> 0:49:49.280 I love. 0:49:49.160 --> 0:49:49.680 That, okay. 0:49:49.680 --> 0:49:53.040 So Stabler actually understands Nuance in this moment wildly, and 0:49:53.080 --> 0:49:57.680 he says, not all offenders are alike. That's nice, and 0:49:57.719 --> 0:50:00.360 he is, but this guy's a hardcore vigilante and that's that. 0:50:00.440 --> 0:50:02.239 And he wants to keep tabs on these creeps. And 0:50:02.239 --> 0:50:04.360 then he says that he can reach. So he says 0:50:04.400 --> 0:50:07.040 that he has further reached than the police because in theory, 0:50:07.080 --> 0:50:08.759 they have to follow the rules. But we all know 0:50:08.800 --> 0:50:11.560 the police do not follow rules. But in this world, 0:50:11.719 --> 0:50:15.279 the cops are doing it by the book. So they 0:50:15.280 --> 0:50:18.040 show him a photo of Rose and say, like, if 0:50:18.040 --> 0:50:20.360 you want to help us, show people this photo after class. 0:50:20.520 --> 0:50:23.080 But why does like why show the photo of Rose 0:50:23.120 --> 0:50:29.000 around like they've identified her, they know who she is, Like, yeah, 0:50:29.040 --> 0:50:29.560 why would they? 0:50:29.640 --> 0:50:32.640 Yeah that's a great quest. Why if you want to 0:50:32.680 --> 0:50:35.680 help us show people this photo after class to be 0:50:35.800 --> 0:50:38.520 like did you see her get taken away by someone 0:50:38.600 --> 0:50:41.000 the night before? Like that's so weird. You're right, it 0:50:41.040 --> 0:50:43.200 just seems like you're telling everyone about this kid getting 0:50:43.280 --> 0:50:45.360 right to a bunch of kids that you're teaching karate to. 0:50:45.560 --> 0:50:47.560 Do you know this kid? Like you know? Like is 0:50:47.600 --> 0:50:50.160 that who you? Yeah? I don't get that. 0:50:50.200 --> 0:50:52.520 But Benson hands him her card and he asks her 0:50:52.880 --> 0:50:55.000 for her sal and she says the precinct's fine, but 0:50:55.080 --> 0:50:57.200 he wants to take her out for coffee, obviously, and 0:50:57.239 --> 0:50:59.880 she rolls her eyes, but she enjoys the attention. And 0:51:00.160 --> 0:51:02.280 Munch Finn are out looking for evidence in the Laffe 0:51:02.400 --> 0:51:04.440 time area and a kid with ice cream on his 0:51:04.520 --> 0:51:06.239 face and a cone in his hand hops out of 0:51:06.280 --> 0:51:07.400 a bush and is like, what's up? 0:51:07.520 --> 0:51:09.359 What are you looking for? I love him? 0:51:09.480 --> 0:51:11.879 I do too, and they say get out of here, 0:51:11.920 --> 0:51:14.440 it's a crime scene, and then he goes, I don't 0:51:14.520 --> 0:51:16.239 feel good and then he pukes. 0:51:18.280 --> 0:51:20.560 So no crime scene and no hits off the photo? 0:51:20.719 --> 0:51:21.560 Now what? So? 0:51:21.760 --> 0:51:24.200 A TV news crew is ready to attack, and a 0:51:24.280 --> 0:51:26.239 reporter puts a mic in their faces and is like, 0:51:26.280 --> 0:51:28.080 what can you tell us? And they're not interested in 0:51:28.120 --> 0:51:30.520 talking and they start walking away. But then the reporter 0:51:30.600 --> 0:51:34.360 takes out a photo of Rows and says, are you 0:51:34.440 --> 0:51:36.800 denying this child who was raped in this neighborhood? And 0:51:36.840 --> 0:51:39.480 our detectives are obviously pissed off, like how dare you 0:51:39.560 --> 0:51:42.279 reveal a victim publicly like that and a child? And 0:51:42.320 --> 0:51:44.600 Benson grabs the photo and says, how did you get this? 0:51:45.120 --> 0:51:47.520 You know you shouldn't be revealing a victim's face, and 0:51:47.600 --> 0:51:49.960 sailors like I know who fucking did this? And then 0:51:50.000 --> 0:51:52.399 the reporter's like just a reminder, folks, we are live 0:51:52.440 --> 0:51:57.120 on air. And Benson is like, good, we just stopped 0:51:57.120 --> 0:51:59.319 you from violating a victim's right and she says you 0:51:59.400 --> 0:52:02.040 violated the freedom of the press. And they walk into 0:52:02.040 --> 0:52:04.960 the office and Craigan's like great performance, you two, and 0:52:05.040 --> 0:52:08.040 Craigan's like go down there, and Benson's like, I'm not apologizing, 0:52:08.080 --> 0:52:10.560 and he says, no, another little girl was raped a 0:52:10.800 --> 0:52:13.400 upsetting done dumb. We're on the scene of a new 0:52:13.440 --> 0:52:15.759 crime and a woman is there saying that Maddie had 0:52:15.880 --> 0:52:17.799 swim class at the y and she walks in the 0:52:17.800 --> 0:52:20.399 corner and gets picked up, and then the mom is like, fuck, 0:52:20.440 --> 0:52:23.000 why wasn't I on time? And when she arrived, her 0:52:23.040 --> 0:52:25.560 daughter was on the curb bleeding and crying. And Benson 0:52:25.840 --> 0:52:28.360 is talking to the girl who is in a stretcher, 0:52:29.000 --> 0:52:30.960 and she's like, you sure you didn't see his face? 0:52:31.080 --> 0:52:33.040 And then she says, Mandy, he can't hurt you, no 0:52:33.080 --> 0:52:35.600 matter what he says, and then we see Mandy as 0:52:35.640 --> 0:52:37.200 really deep bruises on her arm. 0:52:37.719 --> 0:52:38.560 She says she. 0:52:38.440 --> 0:52:40.440 Didn't see his face because he had a mask and 0:52:40.480 --> 0:52:42.960 it was dark in there except when he took her picture. 0:52:43.360 --> 0:52:45.080 She says she tried to make it stop, and as 0:52:45.080 --> 0:52:47.919 they're speaking with her, the mom runs over towards her 0:52:48.080 --> 0:52:50.680 and they all keep chatting, but then Stabler sees Eric 0:52:50.719 --> 0:52:53.520 Weber and he does not like it. The whole organization 0:52:53.640 --> 0:52:55.880 there is there. There's a whole group of people. But 0:52:55.920 --> 0:52:58.279 Stabler runs straight to Eric, grabs him and says, what 0:52:58.280 --> 0:53:01.120 the fuck giving Rose's photo out? He says, I only 0:53:01.160 --> 0:53:03.200 gave it to co members and he says, well, maybe 0:53:03.200 --> 0:53:05.560 one of them gave it to like away. You guys 0:53:05.600 --> 0:53:07.919 are such amateurs, and he shoots back, like, you guys 0:53:07.920 --> 0:53:11.200 are doing so much better, and Stabler says, weber back off, 0:53:11.239 --> 0:53:14.080 and he goes where this is our neighborhood, and Stabler says, 0:53:14.200 --> 0:53:16.839 we're working as fast as we can. And then Eric 0:53:16.960 --> 0:53:19.520 is like, well, who is it? Who is the suspect 0:53:19.560 --> 0:53:21.640 and then starts showing the info of all the creeps 0:53:21.640 --> 0:53:23.560 in the hood on you know the app, like. 0:53:23.800 --> 0:53:25.360 Is it this creep? Or is it this creep? 0:53:25.520 --> 0:53:27.760 And Stable grabs the phone he was using and throws 0:53:27.760 --> 0:53:31.120 it onto the street, which Eric obviously does not enjoy it. 0:53:31.200 --> 0:53:34.319 He does not like that, but I would love That's 0:53:34.320 --> 0:53:34.880 fun though. 0:53:35.000 --> 0:53:37.879 That's like a cool thing to throw the phone. Yeah, 0:53:37.920 --> 0:53:39.800 Like if someone was annoying you so much and you 0:53:39.800 --> 0:53:41.560 just grab their phone and through it in the middle 0:53:41.560 --> 0:53:42.600 of the street. 0:53:42.800 --> 0:53:43.440 That's cool. 0:53:43.880 --> 0:53:44.120 I know. 0:53:44.239 --> 0:53:47.880 It's a well he did that in another episode he 0:53:47.920 --> 0:53:50.440 took someone's came run through it. Or wait, Amorrow did that? 0:53:51.320 --> 0:53:54.160 Or no, Stabler did that. Stabler did that, and that's 0:53:54.520 --> 0:53:56.480 done a quarter. They both thrown that. 0:53:56.560 --> 0:54:00.560 Stranger tomorrow he threw the camera of that pedophile. Yeah 0:54:00.560 --> 0:54:03.919 that looks like Gary Sinise but isn't. Yeah, I think 0:54:03.920 --> 0:54:04.960 it was thought criminal. 0:54:05.000 --> 0:54:08.359 I don't know, yeah, thought criminal is That's exactly it. Yeah, 0:54:08.360 --> 0:54:10.400 I think it was Josh Molina's Yeah, oh my. 0:54:10.440 --> 0:54:15.200 God, did you Someone posted a thing Roger Eber scathing 0:54:15.280 --> 0:54:18.200 review of fandom And this was like decades before Game 0:54:18.239 --> 0:54:20.200 of Thrones and you know, like this was a long 0:54:20.200 --> 0:54:22.279 time ago. But he was saying, He's like, these people 0:54:22.320 --> 0:54:25.560 are the worst to talk to because they're not comfortable 0:54:25.560 --> 0:54:28.239 with ad libbing or like having fun and they just 0:54:28.280 --> 0:54:31.880 like only talk about this thing that they know and 0:54:31.960 --> 0:54:34.440 asking you questions that they already know the answers to. 0:54:34.600 --> 0:54:36.719 And he's like, they're the most boring people to talk to. 0:54:37.320 --> 0:54:40.240 And I was like spiraling. I'm like, I'm only talking 0:54:40.280 --> 0:54:43.680 about Seinfeld, SVW, the Simpsons or Sex in the City, 0:54:43.920 --> 0:54:47.879 Like that's truly drag race yeah or yell, You've got 0:54:47.920 --> 0:54:50.799 a lot. You've got a lot. So I wouldn't say 0:54:50.840 --> 0:54:54.600 you're super dedicated to any one fandom because you're part 0:54:54.640 --> 0:54:58.240 of a many of them. I am. It's like so fucked. 0:54:58.280 --> 0:55:02.799 I'm like, would Roger Eber me like or would we 0:55:02.920 --> 0:55:05.600 vibe a little? I think you and Roger Ebert would 0:55:05.680 --> 0:55:09.759 absolutely vibe. Really, you are unexpected. You are not an 0:55:09.800 --> 0:55:13.520 expected boring person to have a conversation with. Okay, I 0:55:13.560 --> 0:55:16.319 think he's talking about people that only know one thing 0:55:16.520 --> 0:55:18.840 and they like set up conversations to be able to 0:55:18.880 --> 0:55:20.719 talk about the one thing they know about. Ye like 0:55:20.760 --> 0:55:21.440 not what you do. 0:55:21.600 --> 0:55:24.520 Like he used Star Wars and Star Trek and he goes, yeah, 0:55:24.520 --> 0:55:26.759 a guy and a girl. They're just like playing there 0:55:26.800 --> 0:55:29.080 as Luke and and yeah and sis. 0:55:29.719 --> 0:55:33.200 They were great. We've never really had movie reviewers since them, 0:55:33.280 --> 0:55:36.279 like in that kind of prestige and fame. There's like 0:55:36.360 --> 0:55:41.080 Ao Scott even, Oh yeah, I do know Aoscott, You're right, 0:55:41.560 --> 0:55:43.759 but that's like it, you're right. I mean they're like 0:55:43.840 --> 0:55:47.000 those two were like the last big movie reviewers and anomaly. 0:55:47.280 --> 0:55:49.040 Like now it's Rotten Tomatoes. And when I go on 0:55:49.120 --> 0:55:51.359 Rotten Tomatoes, like the people that are like up at 0:55:51.360 --> 0:55:54.279 the top are from like websites and publications I've never 0:55:54.320 --> 0:55:57.920 heard of, Like I never see major newspaper or like 0:55:58.040 --> 0:56:01.000 magazines reviewers at the top of Rotten Tomatoes. It's always 0:56:01.040 --> 0:56:04.279 like I like movies, Dot Biz. I hated this, you know, 0:56:04.560 --> 0:56:07.440 like yeah, not the same, but you know what, I 0:56:07.480 --> 0:56:10.640 watch Tricksy and Katya watching Netflix shows on YouTube, and 0:56:10.680 --> 0:56:13.880 that's as close to the Ciscal and Ebert that we 0:56:13.920 --> 0:56:16.960 could ever get. You're right, we have them. We do 0:56:17.040 --> 0:56:19.200 have Siskel and Ebert, and it's Katya and Tricksy. 0:56:22.200 --> 0:56:25.440 Benson's gonna go play some pr okay and she says, Eric, listen, 0:56:25.520 --> 0:56:27.480 you need to let us do our jobs. And he 0:56:27.520 --> 0:56:29.799 apologizes and says he should have been more careful, but 0:56:29.840 --> 0:56:32.120 every time he hears about a child being attacked, he 0:56:32.160 --> 0:56:35.360 thinks about his sister Grace. She knows it's personal to 0:56:35.480 --> 0:56:38.160 him but also for them, and also personal gets in 0:56:38.200 --> 0:56:40.640 the way and Blur's judgment and he's like, no, I 0:56:40.719 --> 0:56:43.439 feel clear, I know dirt on these guys you don't 0:56:43.480 --> 0:56:45.719 even know. And Benson's like, stop, even if you don't 0:56:45.760 --> 0:56:48.319 trust Stabler, trust me, we're gonna get this guy the 0:56:48.440 --> 0:56:51.239 right way. And we cut to Finn doing a presentation 0:56:51.360 --> 0:56:53.160 to the crew in the squad room and the board 0:56:53.239 --> 0:56:55.400 is a bunch of creeps faces and circles on a 0:56:55.400 --> 0:56:56.400 map of the neighborhood. 0:56:57.120 --> 0:56:58.480 And I, you. 0:56:58.440 --> 0:57:01.160 Know, I said, I never know where I stand with 0:57:01.239 --> 0:57:03.640 Vigilante Justice, but I think I love it. 0:57:05.440 --> 0:57:07.240 I think I'm individually Ante Justice. 0:57:07.760 --> 0:57:10.520 And Craig like when the when the neighborhood of was 0:57:10.560 --> 0:57:14.120 it Higlan, whatever, whatever neighborhood in La caught the Night's soccer. 0:57:14.680 --> 0:57:17.600 Like that footage to me, I could watch it, like 0:57:17.960 --> 0:57:20.760 I should watch it to get hyped, Like, yeah, community 0:57:20.800 --> 0:57:21.840 coming together. 0:57:21.640 --> 0:57:25.600 To catch this killer. I like that. Yeah, that was 0:57:25.600 --> 0:57:27.520 when he was like on the run. You see a killer, 0:57:27.680 --> 0:57:30.000 go tackle him. I don't know if I agree with 0:57:30.080 --> 0:57:32.480 like the guys that dressed up like superheroes and went 0:57:32.480 --> 0:57:34.840 out in the night to get people in another episode 0:57:34.880 --> 0:57:37.560 of the show, or like these co app people that 0:57:37.640 --> 0:57:40.280 are like making wanted posters for poor people with mental 0:57:40.800 --> 0:57:46.040 like you know, disabilities, or like the lesbians. What's the one, 0:57:46.400 --> 0:57:51.160 what's the one that Kathy Griffin runs Lesbians Apple Aggressives. No, No, 0:57:51.160 --> 0:57:55.880 Big Apple is different. Kathy Griffin runs one that's called 0:57:57.840 --> 0:58:05.040 lesbians Lesbian Less Wrong, le Lester Strong, Lesbie Strong. Well, 0:58:05.040 --> 0:58:08.240 they're not really vigilantes against crime. They're just pro lesbians, 0:58:08.360 --> 0:58:10.400 so they're allowed, they're allowed to be alive. But like 0:58:10.480 --> 0:58:12.880 the superhero dorks that are like vigilant, I don't know. 0:58:12.920 --> 0:58:16.440 Sometimes the vigilantes, I'm like Eric Roberts is on the 0:58:16.480 --> 0:58:19.600 show as a vigilante. I think in earlier seasons. 0:58:19.320 --> 0:58:22.200 He's wrong about that coming up. I don't remember I 0:58:22.560 --> 0:58:25.760 Julia Roberts brother. How dare you talk to me like that? 0:58:25.800 --> 0:58:26.560 Like I wouldn't know that? 0:58:26.840 --> 0:58:29.680 Oh? Sorry, you don't think he's been on SVU. You 0:58:29.720 --> 0:58:30.600 don't think everyone knows. 0:58:30.680 --> 0:58:33.720 Eric Roberts and Julia Roberts are siblings, and Emma Roberts 0:58:33.800 --> 0:58:34.320 is their niece. 0:58:34.400 --> 0:58:35.800 I mean his I don't know. I bet you some 0:58:35.800 --> 0:58:40.080 people don't know. I bet you someone write in time 0:58:40.440 --> 0:58:42.880 I broke the news to you today. I want to 0:58:42.920 --> 0:58:45.080 know if I'm educating people. 0:58:45.720 --> 0:58:45.800 No. 0:58:45.960 --> 0:58:48.760 He plays a guy named San Winfield in two episodes, 0:58:48.760 --> 0:58:52.440 and he's uh, he's a former cop and an activist 0:58:52.560 --> 0:58:54.280 quote unquote. So yeah, they do this a lot. They 0:58:54.280 --> 0:58:56.760 have a lot of like the cops going against vigilante people. 0:58:58.720 --> 0:59:02.040 Okay, Craigan says, you know, go corral these creeps. 0:59:02.200 --> 0:59:04.960 Okay, does everyone know where we are? We're in the squadroom. 0:59:05.400 --> 0:59:07.160 So then it cuts to a bunch of lawyers being 0:59:07.160 --> 0:59:09.400 held back in the squadroom trying to see their clients, 0:59:09.400 --> 0:59:11.640 and Cragan's like, you can see it's a little busy 0:59:11.640 --> 0:59:14.080 in here, and everyone's busy talking to creeps at their desk, 0:59:14.600 --> 0:59:17.400 and some are chill and proud they have alibis, and 0:59:17.440 --> 0:59:19.880 some are fucking screaming, losing it that they didn't rape 0:59:19.880 --> 0:59:23.360 any little girls. And we're back onto the pedophile computer 0:59:23.400 --> 0:59:26.640 system and Munches turning all the red circles representing creeps 0:59:26.640 --> 0:59:31.240 into green circles, saying clear, clear clear. Finn says, great, 0:59:31.320 --> 0:59:33.480 now we gotta get this place fumigated. 0:59:35.080 --> 0:59:37.960 I get it. I was like, were there rats there? 0:59:38.080 --> 0:59:42.160 Pedophile Benson says, sometimes you shake the tree and nothing 0:59:42.200 --> 0:59:45.120 falls out, and Cragan sends everyone home and says they'll 0:59:45.120 --> 0:59:47.840 shake more trees in the morning. So then Stable and 0:59:47.880 --> 0:59:50.560 Benson turn around at the same time together and stand 0:59:50.720 --> 0:59:53.000 leaning on their crossed arms. 0:59:52.880 --> 0:59:56.080 At like elbows on the table. It's super cute, like 0:59:56.120 --> 0:59:58.360 a cherub pose. That's how I would describe it, like 0:59:58.360 --> 1:00:01.280 a little cherubs. And he's like, you thinking what I'm thinking, 1:00:01.320 --> 1:00:03.960 and she's like, I hope not. I love it, but 1:00:04.120 --> 1:00:06.480 obviously it's you know, to go to Eric's house, and 1:00:06.520 --> 1:00:08.480 she says, but I'm scared he gives us something good 1:00:08.520 --> 1:00:09.920 and then throws it out and then then you know 1:00:09.960 --> 1:00:12.280 it's thrown out in court. But Stabler's like, what if 1:00:12.280 --> 1:00:14.680 it's enough to stop another little girl from getting raped. 1:00:14.880 --> 1:00:15.400 Good point. 1:00:15.840 --> 1:00:18.000 And she's nervous if she's seen comparing notes with a 1:00:18.040 --> 1:00:20.240 known vigilante, and it's like no one is paying attention, 1:00:20.600 --> 1:00:24.720 like no one is watching you guys, and Stabler's unless 1:00:24.720 --> 1:00:26.880 they are. And Stabler is like, you're just having coffee 1:00:26.880 --> 1:00:28.960 with a guy who thinks you're cute. And they grin 1:00:29.000 --> 1:00:31.400 and they start moving. So they're at Eric's house having 1:00:31.440 --> 1:00:34.160 red wine, clink the glasses and he's like hell, yeah, 1:00:34.160 --> 1:00:36.840 hell let's fuck and she's like, this is purely professional. 1:00:37.160 --> 1:00:40.400 And he says that he got involved with pedophile vigilanteism 1:00:40.520 --> 1:00:44.400 because he did the website, their website for free, so 1:00:44.760 --> 1:00:46.080 this organization existed. 1:00:46.120 --> 1:00:49.360 He did their website. He's a computer geek. Did you 1:00:49.360 --> 1:00:50.520 watch Daria? 1:00:51.280 --> 1:00:53.520 Yeah, so you Quinn morgendor for you know, she's like 1:00:53.560 --> 1:00:55.960 the popular sister. Did you watch the one where their 1:00:55.960 --> 1:00:57.280 house was on fire so they had to live in 1:00:57.280 --> 1:00:57.760 the hotel. 1:00:58.440 --> 1:01:02.240 No, So they're living in this hote tell and a 1:01:02.240 --> 1:01:04.800 bell hop is like, hey, you know, my uncle owns 1:01:04.840 --> 1:01:05.400 the hotel. 1:01:05.440 --> 1:01:07.320 I'll get you the president's suite and this and that. 1:01:07.440 --> 1:01:08.320 He's whining and dining. 1:01:08.320 --> 1:01:10.520 But it ends up being a stalker and the police 1:01:10.520 --> 1:01:13.000 come and then they're like, man, don't worry. You know, 1:01:13.280 --> 1:01:14.600 the uncle actually doesn't own it. 1:01:14.640 --> 1:01:17.280 He just works at the hotel and was charging it 1:01:17.320 --> 1:01:21.480 to the room and then deleting the charges. And Quinn goes, ew, 1:01:21.760 --> 1:01:27.200 you mean I went out with a computer geek, like 1:01:27.240 --> 1:01:31.640 she didn't care about the stalking. I thank you for laughing. 1:01:32.200 --> 1:01:34.280 It did take that story to take longer than I thought, 1:01:34.280 --> 1:01:35.480 But I loved Daria. 1:01:36.640 --> 1:01:39.560 And then there's a painting you kind of you could 1:01:39.600 --> 1:01:42.800 be Daria for Halloween. I know I have like the 1:01:42.800 --> 1:01:46.160 glasses and the hair. Yeah I could. Yeah. Yeah. People 1:01:46.160 --> 1:01:49.120 also say Linda Belcher, but you've done that. Yeah, I 1:01:49.160 --> 1:01:53.120 did do that once. But this I kind of am obsessed. 1:01:54.080 --> 1:01:56.400 I know I could get like a little blazer and 1:01:56.480 --> 1:01:58.320 like yeah. 1:01:58.400 --> 1:02:00.600 And then there's a painting of a young girl in 1:02:00.640 --> 1:02:03.960 the house. Yeah, a blazer, little skirt, boots, black boots 1:02:04.720 --> 1:02:09.400 or something. Yeah, I mean, you should be Daria. Maybe 1:02:09.400 --> 1:02:12.120 next year. This feels too close. We're going on tour. 1:02:12.160 --> 1:02:14.919 How am I going to procure Doria costume? No, I'm 1:02:14.920 --> 1:02:17.120 not passionate enough about Doria to be her for Halloween. 1:02:17.120 --> 1:02:18.800 I think I have to be more passionate. I do 1:02:18.960 --> 1:02:19.400 like her. 1:02:19.560 --> 1:02:21.320 Because I'm looking at her right now on my wall. 1:02:21.360 --> 1:02:26.520 I have a needle point Daria, and and you would 1:02:26.560 --> 1:02:32.480 crush it, you would really crush it. Oh God, this 1:02:32.640 --> 1:02:34.960 is taking forever. And there's okay. 1:02:35.000 --> 1:02:36.600 So then there's a painting of a young girl and 1:02:36.640 --> 1:02:38.560 Benson asks if it's his sister, and. 1:02:38.640 --> 1:02:39.640 Uh, of course it is. 1:02:40.120 --> 1:02:42.360 So he painted it when he was sixteen, right after 1:02:42.400 --> 1:02:45.280 the attack, and she says it's beautiful, and he wanted 1:02:45.280 --> 1:02:47.280 to show Grace how happy she was and how she 1:02:47.320 --> 1:02:49.880 can get back there, but the rapist took everything, and 1:02:49.920 --> 1:02:52.000 three months later their mother found her hanging in the 1:02:52.040 --> 1:02:54.959 closet and Benson's like, I'm so sorry, and he says, 1:02:54.960 --> 1:02:57.360 we went to a dark place too for not protecting her, 1:02:57.560 --> 1:02:59.320 you know, And so he says that he also went 1:02:59.360 --> 1:03:01.120 to a dark place for not being able to protect 1:03:01.560 --> 1:03:04.880 her as her big brother. Then he says, I want 1:03:04.920 --> 1:03:08.080 to show you something and approaches like seven computer moroditors, 1:03:08.560 --> 1:03:10.920 and she's like, fuck, we gotta be careful, and he 1:03:11.000 --> 1:03:13.640 rightfully responds like, isn't this what you came here for? 1:03:14.080 --> 1:03:16.040 And she says I did, but you're a civilian, so 1:03:16.080 --> 1:03:18.280 I can't like direct you to do something you know 1:03:18.600 --> 1:03:21.320 it's illegal. And he says that he did this months ago, 1:03:21.680 --> 1:03:24.560 and he says, child molesters are all about secrecy and 1:03:24.640 --> 1:03:27.200 so and they're really worried about security. So he came 1:03:27.280 --> 1:03:30.040 up with a bunch of door knob signs and everyone 1:03:30.240 --> 1:03:32.880 on the red and he put them on everyone's doors. 1:03:32.880 --> 1:03:36.640 That's on the registry and it's for cybersecurity services. But 1:03:36.760 --> 1:03:40.480 his service wasn't actually secure, and it installed a virus 1:03:40.480 --> 1:03:43.320 in their computers which allows him to remotely view everything 1:03:43.360 --> 1:03:46.280 they do. But she can't see it because it's you know, 1:03:46.360 --> 1:03:47.480 illegally all connected. 1:03:47.560 --> 1:03:48.400 YadA YadA. 1:03:48.440 --> 1:03:50.560 But he said that in two thousand and seven in 1:03:50.600 --> 1:03:54.240 California they use this and like they use the hackers 1:03:54.240 --> 1:03:56.880 in photo put away a judge who is into kitty 1:03:56.960 --> 1:04:00.680 porn in quotes, and that's what you know he wants 1:04:00.720 --> 1:04:03.720 to do here. And he says he found so many 1:04:03.760 --> 1:04:06.040 images from all these hard drives, and holy shit, the 1:04:06.080 --> 1:04:08.560 photo of ros comes up and it's coming from the 1:04:08.600 --> 1:04:11.160 Upper East Side and it was uploaded ninety minutes after 1:04:11.200 --> 1:04:13.480 the attack. And also the girl from yesterday's on the 1:04:13.520 --> 1:04:16.600 person's drive too, And then we cut straight to Stephen 1:04:16.680 --> 1:04:22.080 Tablowski Freaky Friday, Groundhog's Day and literally eight hundred things 1:04:22.120 --> 1:04:25.720 like he's he's been working and I feel like he's 1:04:25.800 --> 1:04:28.680 a part of our lives. It's really cool. And so 1:04:28.720 --> 1:04:30.760 he's leaving for work as a pregnant woman in a 1:04:30.800 --> 1:04:33.720 pink rob It's like, have a good day, and booms, 1:04:33.720 --> 1:04:35.840 Stabler cuffs him, and Benson runs up and hands a 1:04:35.840 --> 1:04:37.920 woman a warrant and says, we're going to take your computers. 1:04:37.920 --> 1:04:39.200 Ma'am, don't get in our way. 1:04:39.520 --> 1:04:43.280 She screams Edwin, and you know, he screams Louis So 1:04:43.440 --> 1:04:48.480 now an interrogation asking why is he here, and Marishka's like, well, 1:04:48.600 --> 1:04:51.400 why were you in a Connecticut police station in nineteen 1:04:51.440 --> 1:04:55.080 ninety seven and it's because he had inappropriate contact with 1:04:55.080 --> 1:04:57.160 a ten year old girl? And where why were you 1:04:57.200 --> 1:04:59.120 in a police station in Maryland in two thousand and 1:04:59.160 --> 1:05:03.360 two old forcible fondling? And he says he admitted to 1:05:03.400 --> 1:05:06.240 those and he went away, and Benson, snarky as fuck, says, well, 1:05:06.280 --> 1:05:09.120 not long enough. And they asked where he was yesterday afternoon, 1:05:09.160 --> 1:05:10.960 and he says every afternoon, he takes the break and 1:05:11.000 --> 1:05:13.160 reads in the park and kIPS Bay and Rose and 1:05:13.200 --> 1:05:16.600 Mandy were raped there, Stabler says in Tablowski aka, Evan 1:05:16.680 --> 1:05:19.760 responds who, and they push did anyone see you there? 1:05:19.760 --> 1:05:21.600 And he says, well hopefully, And Benson's like, what were 1:05:21.600 --> 1:05:25.000 you reading Lolita so you could get your juices flowing? 1:05:25.320 --> 1:05:29.120 Ew Benson ew okay, and they PLoP the photos on 1:05:29.160 --> 1:05:31.120 the table and he says that he didn't take those, 1:05:31.160 --> 1:05:33.520 and then Stabler's like, why did we find them on 1:05:33.560 --> 1:05:34.080 your computer? 1:05:34.160 --> 1:05:38.200 And he screams, this would get thrown out, by the way, Yeah, 1:05:38.280 --> 1:05:40.640 like I think this would fully get thrown out. Okay, 1:05:40.680 --> 1:05:43.240 So he screams what while trying to stand up, and 1:05:43.280 --> 1:05:45.600 they push his shoulders back down and he says, please, please, 1:05:45.640 --> 1:05:47.560 I didn't do this and you have to let me go. 1:05:47.960 --> 1:05:50.440 And then he says something horrifying that Luis doesn't even 1:05:50.560 --> 1:05:53.000 know any of this and he's kept everything a secret, 1:05:53.000 --> 1:05:56.120 his parole everything. That's scary. I don't like. 1:05:56.240 --> 1:05:59.160 I think I think it's fair to background and check 1:05:59.200 --> 1:06:01.600 anyone you want. I think if you date someone, you 1:06:01.640 --> 1:06:02.640 can background check them. 1:06:02.760 --> 1:06:06.919 What are your thoughts? Yeah, I don't know, sure, I've 1:06:06.960 --> 1:06:09.160 never done it, but like, yeah, that is scary. That 1:06:09.200 --> 1:06:12.320 you could be like really pregnant with someone's child and 1:06:12.400 --> 1:06:15.040 have like a whirlwind one year romance and not realize 1:06:15.080 --> 1:06:17.680 they've like went away for tumbless stations. Yeah, it's like 1:06:17.800 --> 1:06:18.919 why it's fucked out. 1:06:19.000 --> 1:06:21.280 And I guess like you kind of also socially knew 1:06:21.320 --> 1:06:24.360 your now husband, so it wasn't like I feel like 1:06:24.480 --> 1:06:26.680 if he was arrested for child to pornograph, who would 1:06:26.680 --> 1:06:27.160 know about it? 1:06:27.280 --> 1:06:30.919 I would know? Yeah, you know, I know the molesters. Also, 1:06:31.040 --> 1:06:33.240 like I have all Jared's passwords. I could steal his 1:06:33.320 --> 1:06:35.280 identity in two seconds, so like I know what he's 1:06:35.280 --> 1:06:37.760 doing online. 1:06:39.560 --> 1:06:42.480 So yeah, I believe in background checking everyone. I think 1:06:42.520 --> 1:06:46.600 it's even moral to hire a PI to take photographs 1:06:46.600 --> 1:06:49.040 and spy on them. I don't give a shit, Like 1:06:49.320 --> 1:06:52.560 with with stuff like this going on, no one's safe. 1:06:53.000 --> 1:06:57.160 And he said they put that on the shirt. He 1:06:57.200 --> 1:06:58.720 said they just met a year ago and it was 1:06:58.720 --> 1:07:01.720 a whirlwind thing. And Benson said, well, guess who's crashed 1:07:01.800 --> 1:07:04.520 back into Earth. I mean, the lines in this episode 1:07:04.560 --> 1:07:08.880 are really killer. Three strikes throughout, says Stabler, and Edwin's nervous, 1:07:08.920 --> 1:07:11.720 like biting his fist. He and he's just super pressed 1:07:11.720 --> 1:07:13.120 about all this, and he's like, I got to see 1:07:13.120 --> 1:07:15.880 my lawyer right now. And Benson and Stabler are walking 1:07:15.920 --> 1:07:19.080 and talking and how they love to watch grown men cry, 1:07:19.320 --> 1:07:21.960 and the defense attorney walks on in and she's fancy, 1:07:22.000 --> 1:07:24.360 I would say, and she wants to see Edwin and 1:07:24.360 --> 1:07:26.680 they're like, too late. He's going to arraignment. And when 1:07:26.680 --> 1:07:28.720 they tell her for what, she's shocked and she's like, 1:07:28.800 --> 1:07:30.800 you're a mistake. And he's a tax guy and a 1:07:30.880 --> 1:07:34.640 church deacon, and it's like those are actually signs. 1:07:34.280 --> 1:07:35.800 Of pedophilia, you know what I mean? 1:07:36.760 --> 1:07:40.520 What I like the church deacon and being shocked about 1:07:40.560 --> 1:07:43.080 the molesting is l like that would ever be surprising. 1:07:43.520 --> 1:07:46.600 And Stabler's like, you're forgetting registered sex defender and she 1:07:46.680 --> 1:07:49.360 looks shocked, and they realize that the family lawyer didn't 1:07:49.400 --> 1:07:52.240 know this information. Oh my god, I'm behind them. In 1:07:52.240 --> 1:07:54.240 the cage, Edwin is getting the shit beat out of 1:07:54.320 --> 1:07:57.600 him by a uniformed officer, screaming he raped those girls, 1:07:57.880 --> 1:08:00.600 and he's bloody and breathlessly saying like hell me, help me, 1:08:00.680 --> 1:08:03.760 help me. And now Craigan walks into, but he's already 1:08:03.800 --> 1:08:05.560 been in prison. Didn't he learn how to fight a 1:08:05.560 --> 1:08:06.000 little bit. 1:08:06.520 --> 1:08:08.760 I know you were there for nine years as a 1:08:08.840 --> 1:08:12.080 child molester, like that must have been yeah, Like get 1:08:12.200 --> 1:08:16.439 get it together, fight back like you're yeah. Now, Craigan 1:08:16.479 --> 1:08:18.680 walks into a room where the unicop is sitting and 1:08:18.680 --> 1:08:21.240 he's like, is this clown really on the job. So 1:08:21.280 --> 1:08:24.400 he lied downstairs and finangled his way and he did 1:08:24.439 --> 1:08:25.639 come to do it. The daughter. 1:08:25.920 --> 1:08:28.760 His daughter's in the same swim class, and we you know, 1:08:28.960 --> 1:08:32.200 so he knew Mandy forever. She's been over at sleepovers 1:08:32.200 --> 1:08:34.600 at their house. So he saw red and Craigan's like, 1:08:34.600 --> 1:08:36.320 you fucked up your own career, and he says, I know, 1:08:36.479 --> 1:08:38.080 I shouldn't have ever signed up for the you know 1:08:38.160 --> 1:08:41.439 those tweets, and they're like, what tweets? So there's a 1:08:41.479 --> 1:08:43.839 watch group in the neighborhood and they have a Twitter 1:08:43.960 --> 1:08:44.919 called creep Tweets. 1:08:48.200 --> 1:08:50.679 Use creep tweets, link your creep tweets to your purv 1:08:50.760 --> 1:08:55.920 pointer and find out we're all okay. 1:08:55.960 --> 1:08:58.680 So now creep tweets are being mentioned in court by 1:08:58.840 --> 1:09:00.400 Edwin's lawyer, and. 1:09:00.360 --> 1:09:02.880 We're out of arrainment. And the DA is truly a woman. 1:09:02.880 --> 1:09:04.840 I refuse to learn her face, like I want to 1:09:04.840 --> 1:09:08.720 have the facial blindness for this woman. Uh call me 1:09:08.720 --> 1:09:09.720 a mensraic. 1:09:09.439 --> 1:09:11.559 Activist, but I don't give a shit about her. So 1:09:12.360 --> 1:09:15.840 then but the judge, the judge is a sex and 1:09:15.880 --> 1:09:20.160 the City queen as well. So this judged. This episode's 1:09:20.160 --> 1:09:22.320 one of my favorites. You know, Hot Child in the 1:09:22.360 --> 1:09:26.360 City where Carrie starts dating the comic book guy and 1:09:26.520 --> 1:09:30.000 he lives Power Lad, Power Lad, and so he so 1:09:30.120 --> 1:09:30.880 this is his mother. 1:09:31.000 --> 1:09:34.760 This is power Lad's mother that's like Carrie and like 1:09:34.880 --> 1:09:35.960 calling and then. 1:09:36.040 --> 1:09:39.880 Catches them smoking weed and then Carrie grabs the weed 1:09:39.920 --> 1:09:41.960 on the way out and she goes, yes, Missus Adams, 1:09:41.960 --> 1:09:43.160 and I'm taking it away. 1:09:43.360 --> 1:09:45.360 With me when I go yeah, and her. 1:09:45.240 --> 1:09:47.680 Little shorts in that episode the Chicken Weing, it's a 1:09:47.680 --> 1:09:52.320 weed episode. There's a couple of wead episodes, but like, yeah, 1:09:52.360 --> 1:09:56.160 this is one of my favorites. And he was in 1:09:56.760 --> 1:09:59.000 he was at Carolines in the audience once years and 1:09:59.040 --> 1:10:01.000 years ago when I was opening for David toew. 1:10:03.040 --> 1:10:04.080 Listen. I'm obsessed. 1:10:04.120 --> 1:10:06.160 So this is Missus Adams and they're talking about the 1:10:06.160 --> 1:10:08.280 attack in the cage and the judge is not happy 1:10:08.280 --> 1:10:10.840 that he was assaulted in their custody and miss West 1:10:10.840 --> 1:10:13.719 I did learn her name is the DA and Craigan 1:10:13.760 --> 1:10:16.040 said it won't happen again, and she says, just passing 1:10:16.080 --> 1:10:18.720 the buck, and the judge's like, actually, captain, I. 1:10:18.640 --> 1:10:20.840 Want to talk to your ass. How many cops do 1:10:20.880 --> 1:10:22.439 you have? And he says one hundred and she's like 1:10:22.479 --> 1:10:24.559 and yet somehow one man got past all of them, 1:10:24.600 --> 1:10:27.120 and Craigan's like he lied and had fake paperwork and 1:10:27.160 --> 1:10:29.599 the judge is like yes or no, and he says yes, 1:10:29.880 --> 1:10:31.760 and then Miss West says Craigan is not the one 1:10:31.800 --> 1:10:34.200 being arraigned here today, and Craigan then says, your honor, 1:10:34.439 --> 1:10:36.519 all due respect, do not release this man. He is 1:10:36.560 --> 1:10:37.160 a flight risk. 1:10:37.160 --> 1:10:39.160 And his lawyer's like a baby on the way, I 1:10:39.160 --> 1:10:41.519 think that's a reason to be tied down. So they 1:10:41.600 --> 1:10:43.920 argue back and forth and Craigan is like, protect the 1:10:43.960 --> 1:10:47.160 community and Edwin's like, no, protect me from the police, please, 1:10:47.479 --> 1:10:49.799 and she agrees with Edwin. So his bail is granted 1:10:49.840 --> 1:10:53.160 at fifty thousand and he just has to surrender his passport, and. 1:10:53.160 --> 1:10:56.320 The the baby on the way is like, kept any 1:10:56.360 --> 1:10:59.559 man tied down? Like, really, if you were fleeing from 1:10:59.560 --> 1:11:03.360 possible like life in prison, bye baby, Like you do 1:11:03.439 --> 1:11:03.840 not care? 1:11:04.320 --> 1:11:06.439 Amen, okay. And so the lawyer's like, just a little 1:11:06.479 --> 1:11:08.280 bit of paperwork and then your wife will pick you up. 1:11:08.320 --> 1:11:10.800 And he's obviously so upset. He's like, my wife, God, no, please, 1:11:10.840 --> 1:11:14.080 she can't know about this. And so the vigilante group 1:11:14.120 --> 1:11:16.559 is outside with poster boards and who has the time. 1:11:16.960 --> 1:11:19.280 So Stabler comes out and the reporter starts trying to 1:11:19.320 --> 1:11:21.000 fuck with him, and he's not really feeling it. But 1:11:21.040 --> 1:11:23.160 then they see Edwin and they're like, fuck Stabler, let's 1:11:23.200 --> 1:11:26.080 go get Edwin. So although media mob like runs to 1:11:26.080 --> 1:11:27.960 get his ass and they run to him, and he 1:11:28.000 --> 1:11:31.040 sees his wife and she's so mad at him, and 1:11:31.080 --> 1:11:33.439 she looks at him with such disgust. And he gets 1:11:33.520 --> 1:11:35.920 into the you know, he gets in the car and 1:11:36.240 --> 1:11:39.800 stares at the detectives. He really stares at the detectives, 1:11:39.800 --> 1:11:42.320 and then he drives his Jaguar right into a truck. 1:11:42.680 --> 1:11:45.400 It's not a gas truck, but it does explode into fire. 1:11:45.479 --> 1:11:48.639 Boom boom boom. Eric says, oh my god, and there 1:11:48.720 --> 1:11:50.759 is a fire, and the detectives look at the fire 1:11:50.880 --> 1:11:53.320 and everyone is like, wow, there's a fire. And then 1:11:53.360 --> 1:11:56.040 it cuts the squad watching the news and it says 1:11:56.120 --> 1:11:59.760 Deviant dead and they can't believe it, but Benson is 1:11:59.800 --> 1:12:01.800 like cold as fuck, and he's like, Hey, if the 1:12:01.840 --> 1:12:04.599 vigilantes stay this tough, that's good news, and we'll save 1:12:04.840 --> 1:12:07.280 a lot of money for trials, you know, and we 1:12:07.280 --> 1:12:10.240 could speed race to all these motherfucker's deaths. 1:12:10.320 --> 1:12:14.519 Okay, that's pretty like hardcore. And we hear a little 1:12:14.600 --> 1:12:16.600 voice and she says, is it true? The man is 1:12:16.640 --> 1:12:19.400 really dead? And Benson says, yes, Mandy, he felt so 1:12:19.520 --> 1:12:21.640 guilty that he took his own life. And then she 1:12:21.720 --> 1:12:24.639 brings them to the interview room. Eric runs into Stabler 1:12:24.680 --> 1:12:27.599 and he's there with some evidence. So there's a hard 1:12:27.680 --> 1:12:29.080 drive and he brings it in and he's like, I 1:12:29.080 --> 1:12:30.599 don't know how much you can use, but I thought 1:12:30.600 --> 1:12:32.919 the real cops should have it. And so then Benson's 1:12:32.920 --> 1:12:35.559 telling the girls about city counseling and support services and 1:12:35.600 --> 1:12:38.080 it's all free, and then she's like, well, maybe something 1:12:38.080 --> 1:12:39.800 else can help because she sees Eric and. 1:12:39.760 --> 1:12:41.320 She goes, don't you want to learn karate? 1:12:41.400 --> 1:12:44.200 And she goes cool, and so she calls Eric into 1:12:44.200 --> 1:12:47.040 the room and introduces Eric to the mom and to Mandy, 1:12:47.080 --> 1:12:50.360 the little girl, and once he starts talking, she looks 1:12:50.360 --> 1:12:53.240 immediately shocked and scared and just like fuck not the same, 1:12:53.640 --> 1:12:56.800 And Benson notices something is off and Mandy is like 1:12:56.960 --> 1:13:00.559 frozen and asks and she's like, are you okay? And 1:13:00.600 --> 1:13:02.280 she goes, I want to go home now, and then 1:13:02.280 --> 1:13:03.960 when she gets up on the chair, there's a big 1:13:04.000 --> 1:13:04.800 puddle of piss. 1:13:04.840 --> 1:13:06.960 And this is like the movie Ransom. Do you remember that? 1:13:07.280 --> 1:13:10.280 I don't remember this? Something like this happened in Ransom. Yeah, 1:13:10.320 --> 1:13:12.040 like he peed down his pants and that's how they 1:13:12.120 --> 1:13:14.559 knew who the killer was. Yeah, what is it? But 1:13:14.600 --> 1:13:17.280 also like wouldn't did any of the girls say the 1:13:17.320 --> 1:13:18.240 man had an accent? 1:13:19.640 --> 1:13:19.680 No? 1:13:19.800 --> 1:13:22.400 But they're kids, I know, But like you could say, 1:13:22.400 --> 1:13:23.840 he doesn't talk like you were me. I mean like 1:13:23.920 --> 1:13:27.439 Rosie knows Pepa Pig talks different, and like Bluie talks different, 1:13:27.439 --> 1:13:29.000 you know what I mean? Like if they had, like 1:13:29.040 --> 1:13:30.439 if there had been an accent, I feel like that 1:13:30.479 --> 1:13:33.880 would have like maybe tipped Olivia or something earlier. But 1:13:34.040 --> 1:13:38.200 you blame no, non blaming. 1:13:38.240 --> 1:13:42.920 The cops should have asked Ben's Yeah, they should have. 1:13:43.360 --> 1:13:46.519 Did the criminals sound like Pepa Pig? That would be 1:13:46.560 --> 1:13:50.880 a perfect question. So there's a piss so if a 1:13:50.960 --> 1:13:53.800 kid is pissing, the killers in the room. So then 1:13:54.040 --> 1:13:56.599 Benson says, Mandy just told us who really raped her. 1:13:56.920 --> 1:13:58.800 So we cut to Eric opening the door to his 1:13:58.880 --> 1:14:00.400 apartment and it's Benson there. 1:14:00.760 --> 1:14:03.080 Oh my god, I love this scene. I'm like, okay, 1:14:03.560 --> 1:14:06.639 we're nearing the end, guys, let's do this. So Eric 1:14:06.640 --> 1:14:09.280 opens the door in the apartment and Benson's there to 1:14:09.280 --> 1:14:11.320 see him, and he's like, wow, surprise, and she's like, 1:14:11.320 --> 1:14:13.840 what can't just drop by for a glass of wine? 1:14:13.880 --> 1:14:15.560 And it's like, no, you're a psychopath. 1:14:16.600 --> 1:14:19.800 He says sorry, I'm all out, but also he was thinking, 1:14:19.840 --> 1:14:21.960 and before he can say anything more, Benson goes, you 1:14:21.960 --> 1:14:24.479 want to stop seeing me, and he's like, it's not you, 1:14:24.560 --> 1:14:27.080 but I'm just too wound up and too many painful memories. 1:14:27.080 --> 1:14:29.880 And Benson then like pushes him, I'm not even your type, right, 1:14:30.240 --> 1:14:33.040 I'm a little old. And she's acting smug as hell 1:14:33.120 --> 1:14:35.240 and it's like, you're a fucking liar and he's like, 1:14:35.320 --> 1:14:38.439 I don't know what you're talking about, and she's like, 1:14:38.600 --> 1:14:41.000 look at you keep lying and the biggest lie is 1:14:41.000 --> 1:14:44.200 you hating pedophiles trying to get pedophiles, and he screams, 1:14:44.240 --> 1:14:47.000 don't call me that, and she says, I didn't, but 1:14:47.080 --> 1:14:48.840 that's weird that you thought I did. And he says, 1:14:48.960 --> 1:14:51.080 just because I don't want to date you, and she's like, 1:14:51.160 --> 1:14:51.960 just tell the truth. 1:14:52.160 --> 1:14:53.920 You never wanted to date me. You just wanted to 1:14:53.960 --> 1:14:55.200 suss out what the cops knew. 1:14:55.520 --> 1:14:57.639 So you know, you slithered up and whipped out your 1:14:57.680 --> 1:15:00.719 purve pointer and your drive and makes we were watching 1:15:00.800 --> 1:15:02.760 the creep down the street or in the park. But 1:15:02.800 --> 1:15:04.920 I think you moved to this neighborhood on purpose because 1:15:04.920 --> 1:15:07.960 it's the perfect cover for raping little girls. And he's like, 1:15:08.000 --> 1:15:09.800 I want you out of here, and Benson says, you're 1:15:09.800 --> 1:15:12.760 the karate expert. Make me and he smiles and he 1:15:12.760 --> 1:15:14.800 ain't gonna do shit, and he giggles and walks away 1:15:14.840 --> 1:15:16.599 and says I'm gonna call the police, and she's like, 1:15:16.880 --> 1:15:19.439 and tell them what that You fingered Adelson for a 1:15:19.479 --> 1:15:22.080 crime he didn't commit. And it's like fingered means something else. 1:15:22.120 --> 1:15:24.960 It's like, you can't do that. They say fingered in 1:15:25.000 --> 1:15:28.080 this all the time, but like language changes, things start 1:15:28.120 --> 1:15:31.360 eating other things. You can't hate it keeps sat fingers. 1:15:31.720 --> 1:15:35.920 I know. It's like so weird. He screams and is 1:15:35.960 --> 1:15:38.800 getting agitated, and Benson's like, nope, bro, you hacked him 1:15:38.840 --> 1:15:41.320 and you did it, and he says and He's like, no, 1:15:41.439 --> 1:15:43.519 he did it, Olivia, and that's why he offed himself. 1:15:43.560 --> 1:15:46.080 And she says, because you drove him to it, just 1:15:46.080 --> 1:15:48.160 like how you drove your sister to do that. And 1:15:48.240 --> 1:15:51.240 she points to the painting while talking, and he's like, oh, 1:15:51.320 --> 1:15:54.120 now you're really losing it. Grace hung herself in eighty 1:15:54.160 --> 1:15:56.960 two and walks out a woman, saying, then how can 1:15:56.960 --> 1:16:00.720 I be standing right here? And Stabler's behind and Eric 1:16:00.800 --> 1:16:04.280 looks shocked and the violins start playing, and he says Grace, 1:16:04.640 --> 1:16:06.840 and Sablor says she was super easy to find. She 1:16:06.920 --> 1:16:08.719 was just like in Delaware in a phone book. 1:16:08.800 --> 1:16:11.960 But you needed her dead, didn't you, for your sob stories, 1:16:12.000 --> 1:16:14.880 so nobody would peek under the mask. And then she says, 1:16:14.960 --> 1:16:17.160 you raped me, Eric, I was only nine, and then 1:16:17.200 --> 1:16:20.040 you try to convince me it was a mistake, you swore. 1:16:20.400 --> 1:16:23.400 She started walking like walking towards Eric and he's crying 1:16:23.400 --> 1:16:26.160 and she says, but you kept on raping how many Eric, 1:16:26.200 --> 1:16:28.799 how many girls pictures did you paint? And then he screams, 1:16:28.840 --> 1:16:31.240 I can't help it. Don't you see, I'm sick. I 1:16:31.280 --> 1:16:33.559 can't control myself. You have, I had no idea what 1:16:33.600 --> 1:16:36.000 it's like. I try so hard to not look at 1:16:36.000 --> 1:16:38.479 little girls. And he fights against it and every time 1:16:38.560 --> 1:16:41.040 it wins, and Benson says, enough with her, sob story. 1:16:41.360 --> 1:16:43.800 Don't you judge me, bitch? You make me sick. Every 1:16:43.800 --> 1:16:45.880 time I stand near you, I have to hold my breath. 1:16:45.920 --> 1:16:48.479 And Benson's like, finally, you tell the truth. And he 1:16:48.520 --> 1:16:50.879 gets mad and tries to comfort her, and she knocks 1:16:50.880 --> 1:16:53.479 his ass to the ground. Bye bye, and he hits 1:16:53.520 --> 1:16:56.400 the floor, and Sablor pulls out his gun and Grace 1:16:56.479 --> 1:16:59.479 pulls like some weapon that the grim Reaper would hold? 1:17:00.240 --> 1:17:01.639 Was that it was a grim Reaper? 1:17:02.000 --> 1:17:05.759 Like yeah, it like a like a scythe or like 1:17:05.760 --> 1:17:07.960 like a machete. I don't know. It was wild, It 1:17:08.000 --> 1:17:08.920 was really wild. 1:17:09.080 --> 1:17:12.000 And she's crying and then she she attacks the painting 1:17:12.360 --> 1:17:15.040 and so she starts ripping the painting apart, and it 1:17:15.120 --> 1:17:18.120 ends on our detectives' faces, and an amazing episode of 1:17:18.160 --> 1:17:21.280 television twists and turns. One of my favorite red herrings, 1:17:21.280 --> 1:17:24.719 but not red hairing. I mean it's like it's incredible, one. 1:17:24.560 --> 1:17:27.240 Of the most amazing twists in the history of the show, 1:17:27.320 --> 1:17:30.679 and very similar to fast forward this if you've never 1:17:30.760 --> 1:17:32.960 read or seen The Girl with the Dragon Tattoo. But 1:17:33.040 --> 1:17:35.519 to me, this is like the exact ending of The 1:17:35.520 --> 1:17:38.960 Girl with the Dragon Tattoo is like this girl that 1:17:39.000 --> 1:17:41.479 they everyone has assumed has been dead the entire time 1:17:41.640 --> 1:17:43.639 comes back and is like, yeah, my brother was raping 1:17:43.680 --> 1:17:46.200 me forever, like and it's like a huge twist at 1:17:46.200 --> 1:17:47.920 the end of Girl with the Dragon Tattoo, which only 1:17:47.960 --> 1:17:50.040 came out, like the book only came out a couple 1:17:50.120 --> 1:17:51.920 years before this episode, so I feel like I wonder 1:17:51.920 --> 1:17:55.280 if someone was reading it. But it's like it's like 1:17:55.720 --> 1:17:58.640 also with this guy Eric, Like I think that that 1:17:58.840 --> 1:18:01.280 is how pedophies feel. Like I try not to do it. 1:18:01.320 --> 1:18:03.519 I really try. I really try, and like I'm sick 1:18:03.560 --> 1:18:05.599 and I can't control myself, and like I do think 1:18:05.600 --> 1:18:07.320 that's how bout a files feel. But then it's like 1:18:07.560 --> 1:18:12.000 you're framing other people, you're ruining other people's lives, and 1:18:12.080 --> 1:18:14.840 you're like out there, yeah, like putting up posters of 1:18:14.840 --> 1:18:17.240 a poor mentally ill boy being like get this freak 1:18:17.280 --> 1:18:20.160 when it's like you you're like a Republican, Like you're 1:18:20.200 --> 1:18:23.439 this guy talking about like family values while you're trying 1:18:23.479 --> 1:18:25.680 to tap on somebody's foot in a stall to get 1:18:25.680 --> 1:18:27.880 a BJ you know what I mean. Like that's like 1:18:27.920 --> 1:18:30.360 why this guy gets like no sympathy from me. 1:18:30.560 --> 1:18:34.320 Like, also, just get castrated, Like all these fucking perfs 1:18:34.320 --> 1:18:35.960 should just get their sperm cut. 1:18:37.080 --> 1:18:39.840 Yeah does that work? You get like chemically castrated? I 1:18:39.880 --> 1:18:42.599 bet you. There's still other ways you could hurt people. 1:18:43.000 --> 1:18:49.400 But anyway, an amazing episode, a depressing crime to follow, 1:18:49.520 --> 1:18:52.559 So don't go anywhere, listen to our advertisements and we'll 1:18:52.600 --> 1:19:09.320 be right back. Okay. So, even though I think that 1:19:09.400 --> 1:19:11.120 the end part of the episode has to do with 1:19:11.160 --> 1:19:14.240 the girl with the dragon tattoo, in my opinion, uh, 1:19:14.280 --> 1:19:18.959 the real true crime is connected to the compulsive gamers 1:19:18.960 --> 1:19:22.679 that are Rose Simonsky's parents at the beginning of Wow 1:19:22.720 --> 1:19:27.000 so cool. Yeah, so this is called the it's not 1:19:27.040 --> 1:19:29.080 that cool when you hear the song. I know, but 1:19:29.280 --> 1:19:31.720 I that's not what I had. I didn't know what 1:19:31.760 --> 1:19:32.479 crime you were doing. 1:19:32.560 --> 1:19:36.519 Yeah, yeah, I am, because that is a very interesting 1:19:36.560 --> 1:19:39.120 part of this episode and it always I remember it 1:19:39.240 --> 1:19:40.120 and the whole interaction. 1:19:40.200 --> 1:19:42.880 Yeah, like it's just well, they put a lot of 1:19:42.920 --> 1:19:46.000 little details into it that show you how connected it 1:19:46.040 --> 1:19:48.640 is to this. So it's based on the case of 1:19:48.720 --> 1:19:51.559 Kim Sarong, but in Korea they put the last name first, 1:19:51.560 --> 1:19:55.160 I believe, so Sarong is her first name and it 1:19:55.280 --> 1:19:59.679 means love. And she was the three month old child 1:20:00.080 --> 1:20:04.040 of Jbaum Kim, age forty and his common law wife 1:20:04.640 --> 1:20:09.800 Young Chung Kim, age twenty five. These two parents were poor, unemployed, 1:20:09.840 --> 1:20:15.120 and unfortunately were extremely addicted to a massive multiplayer online 1:20:15.200 --> 1:20:19.920 role playing game also known as an MMO RPG called Prius. 1:20:20.200 --> 1:20:23.080 Probably the most famous MMO RPG as World of Warcraft, 1:20:23.720 --> 1:20:27.559 but this one was called Prius, and this couple would 1:20:27.560 --> 1:20:30.639 allegedly leave their baby home for like hours at a time, 1:20:30.760 --> 1:20:33.519 like eight to ten hours to go to an internet 1:20:33.560 --> 1:20:36.280 cafe and play the game. And the super fucked up 1:20:36.320 --> 1:20:38.439 part of it is just like in the episode, the 1:20:38.520 --> 1:20:41.400 game is all about raising a child. It's about raising 1:20:41.479 --> 1:20:43.640 a little girl and giving her all these powers and 1:20:43.680 --> 1:20:47.400 then she fights and stuff. So they would leave their 1:20:47.479 --> 1:20:51.320 real child to go raise like an online game child. 1:20:51.880 --> 1:20:55.719 And one night they came in September of two thousand 1:20:55.720 --> 1:20:57.639 and nine. One morning, they came home at seven am 1:20:57.680 --> 1:20:59.760 after playing the game for ten hours at one of 1:20:59.800 --> 1:21:03.920 these gaming places, like they kept calling them, like oh, 1:21:04.040 --> 1:21:06.000 video bang or game bang or something. I don't know, 1:21:06.040 --> 1:21:08.439 it's like these they're like these places all over Korea, 1:21:08.520 --> 1:21:11.360 South Korea where you can play games for like long 1:21:11.400 --> 1:21:13.080 amounts of time. I mean, I'm sure we have them 1:21:13.120 --> 1:21:16.960 in the US, but they're like prolific in Korea. And 1:21:17.000 --> 1:21:20.200 when they got home at seven am, the baby was passed. 1:21:20.320 --> 1:21:22.559 The baby had to say sad. I know, it's like 1:21:22.720 --> 1:21:25.240 so super sad. And her time of death she weighed 1:21:25.240 --> 1:21:27.719 five point five pounds, which is less than her birth 1:21:27.720 --> 1:21:31.760 weight of six point four pounds. So to have not 1:21:31.840 --> 1:21:34.000 gained any weight in your first three months of life 1:21:34.080 --> 1:21:37.800 is like not good. And the police noted the low 1:21:37.840 --> 1:21:40.760 weight and the dehydration and they immediately became suspicious and 1:21:40.800 --> 1:21:45.200 the cause of death was ruled malnutrition. And according to 1:21:45.240 --> 1:21:48.960 the police, the mother had not sought any medical care 1:21:49.080 --> 1:21:50.960 prior to giving birth, like she had kno gone to 1:21:51.000 --> 1:21:54.400 the doctor, no checkups, no vitamins, like nothing. She did 1:21:54.479 --> 1:21:56.840 not know how to be a mom. She fed the 1:21:56.880 --> 1:22:00.479 baby spoiled milk, and one investigator said she just had 1:22:00.520 --> 1:22:04.760 no idea how to raise a child. So after her death, 1:22:04.800 --> 1:22:06.760 the parents were afraid to alert the police and just 1:22:06.800 --> 1:22:11.519 started like looking up funeral arrangements online. And then I 1:22:11.560 --> 1:22:13.040 will talk about this in a little bit, but there 1:22:13.080 --> 1:22:15.920 was a documentary about this case made and in the documentary, 1:22:15.960 --> 1:22:20.320 this veteran detective says, whose name is Sang Yun Hahn says, 1:22:20.439 --> 1:22:22.880 a typical parent would weep in this situation, but they 1:22:22.920 --> 1:22:25.240 showed no emotion. And then he said, none of us 1:22:25.240 --> 1:22:27.400 believed it at first, like they couldn't believe that this 1:22:27.520 --> 1:22:28.839 was like the result of the parents. 1:22:29.320 --> 1:22:32.200 And I'm huse, so they didn't how did the police 1:22:32.400 --> 1:22:33.080 find out if. 1:22:32.960 --> 1:22:35.519 They eventually they did. Eventually they did call the police, 1:22:35.520 --> 1:22:37.880 like after they like looked up funeral arrangements, but like 1:22:37.960 --> 1:22:40.559 they knew they had, like they saw in their search 1:22:40.600 --> 1:22:42.599 history that they didn't call the police right away. They 1:22:42.640 --> 1:22:46.360 first looked up funeral arrangements, then they called the police. 1:22:46.560 --> 1:22:49.640 Then while they're doing the autopsy, which apparently takes a 1:22:49.640 --> 1:22:52.360 couple of weeks, they let the parents go. They let 1:22:52.360 --> 1:22:55.200 them go free, and then they disappeared after the baby's funeral, 1:22:55.360 --> 1:22:59.439 they like peaced out, so this was September of nine 1:22:59.439 --> 1:23:01.719 when this happened. It took them until February of twenty 1:23:01.760 --> 1:23:04.120 ten to find them, although they were hiding in an 1:23:04.160 --> 1:23:06.840 isolated village where their parents lived, so kind of should 1:23:06.880 --> 1:23:10.120 have been the first stop. But then after they captured 1:23:10.120 --> 1:23:13.240 them in February, the story started to go international in 1:23:13.280 --> 1:23:15.920 March of twenty ten, and then the trial was in 1:23:16.000 --> 1:23:19.040 April of twenty ten, and the trial lasted just over 1:23:19.080 --> 1:23:22.280 a half an hour. So in Korea, trials are like 1:23:22.280 --> 1:23:25.240 episodes of law and Order restview. They happened very quickly 1:23:25.280 --> 1:23:28.880 and everything has resolved fast. The parents confess to charges 1:23:28.920 --> 1:23:33.599 of involuntary manslaughter. The father said in court I think quote, 1:23:33.600 --> 1:23:35.360 I think of our baby in heaven. I will be 1:23:35.400 --> 1:23:38.400 guilty until the day I die, and the prosecutor was 1:23:38.439 --> 1:23:43.240 aiming for five year sentences for them. But this case 1:23:43.320 --> 1:23:46.400 also stood to set legal precedents because no one had 1:23:46.479 --> 1:23:49.759 used gaming addiction as a defense before, and gaming addiction 1:23:49.880 --> 1:23:53.840 had never as they knew, led to a fatality before, 1:23:53.880 --> 1:23:56.000 as far as they knew, like they didn't know that 1:23:56.120 --> 1:23:58.519 a gaming addiction had ever led to somebody dying, but 1:23:58.640 --> 1:24:03.439 the judge went lenient on them. But why well, I 1:24:03.479 --> 1:24:07.240 think that I think it was because they realized how 1:24:07.240 --> 1:24:09.320 addicted to this game they were, and like that they 1:24:09.360 --> 1:24:12.160 were not in their right minds. I guess like he 1:24:12.560 --> 1:24:15.040 gave them two he gave them both two year sentences 1:24:15.040 --> 1:24:18.960 in prison. The mother's sentence was suspended because she was 1:24:19.040 --> 1:24:22.800 pregnant with their second child, but they both swore that 1:24:22.840 --> 1:24:27.080 they would never play games again. And uh, you know, 1:24:27.360 --> 1:24:29.080 the mom just like I don't think ever saw jail 1:24:29.120 --> 1:24:32.120 time because her sentence was suspended indefinitely. And then the dad, 1:24:32.160 --> 1:24:35.080 I think, did two years in jail. The case raised 1:24:35.120 --> 1:24:36.880 a lot of issues about the dark side of the 1:24:36.920 --> 1:24:40.599 internet in a country with very, very advanced broadband like Chris, 1:24:40.680 --> 1:24:42.960 South Korea is like one of the considered one of 1:24:43.000 --> 1:24:47.479 the digital capitals of the world. So it's just it's 1:24:47.479 --> 1:24:49.840 like a it's like a problem there, like it's a five. 1:24:49.880 --> 1:24:52.639 There's a five. As of twenty ten, the gaming industry 1:24:52.720 --> 1:24:55.960 was five billion dollars there, so it's definitely more now. 1:24:56.800 --> 1:25:00.960 Online addiction is apparently very common in Korea, and so 1:25:01.240 --> 1:25:04.920 someone made this HBO documentary called Love Child. It's unfortunately 1:25:05.000 --> 1:25:08.600 no longer on HBO. But I did find it online 1:25:08.640 --> 1:25:11.040 and I watched a bunch of it and it's so 1:25:11.080 --> 1:25:12.559 we'll put that in our show notes if you want 1:25:12.560 --> 1:25:16.400 to watch it. And it was directed by Valerie Veach 1:25:15.800 --> 1:25:18.280 v A. T. C. H. I don't know. I say 1:25:18.280 --> 1:25:22.400 that vachvich and was it was about the tragedy, but 1:25:22.479 --> 1:25:25.360 instead of just like vilifying the negligent parents, it kind 1:25:25.400 --> 1:25:28.000 of looks more broadly at the country where like an 1:25:28.120 --> 1:25:31.920 estimated two million people are addicted to gaming, and they 1:25:31.920 --> 1:25:33.680 talk about in the documentary about like a twenty eight 1:25:33.760 --> 1:25:36.040 year old woman who died of heart failure after playing 1:25:36.040 --> 1:25:40.960 a game for fifty hours straight and then so that's 1:25:40.960 --> 1:25:44.400 like interesting the documentary kind of they never show their faces, 1:25:44.439 --> 1:25:47.160 the parents' faces, and like, honestly, you look up information 1:25:47.240 --> 1:25:49.960 and there's nothing about like what happened to their second 1:25:50.040 --> 1:25:52.080 kid or if they're all living happily right now. Like 1:25:52.120 --> 1:25:55.439 I have no idea. I just like, I don't know. 1:25:55.560 --> 1:25:57.799 I guess I feel sort of like it is maybe 1:25:57.840 --> 1:26:00.160 like a failure of society that no one taught this 1:26:00.200 --> 1:26:04.000 woman how to raise a child, but also like what 1:26:04.040 --> 1:26:06.960 was going on with you, Like apparently her family wasn't 1:26:06.960 --> 1:26:09.400 helping because they didn't approve of the age difference between 1:26:09.400 --> 1:26:11.559 her and her guy was twenty five and forty, so 1:26:11.920 --> 1:26:14.960 they didn't like that age difference, and so like, I 1:26:15.000 --> 1:26:17.400 guess maybe a mom around would have said, Okay, you 1:26:17.439 --> 1:26:20.200 gotta feed your kid like not spoiled milk, and like 1:26:20.240 --> 1:26:22.120 here's what you do, and you can't leave the baby 1:26:22.479 --> 1:26:24.280 at home alone. But I guess they were like, well, 1:26:24.280 --> 1:26:26.240 the baby's asleep, We're gonna go out and play. Like 1:26:26.280 --> 1:26:30.400 they just weren't being normal. I don't know, but I was. 1:26:30.439 --> 1:26:32.040 I don't feel bad for them, and I think they 1:26:32.040 --> 1:26:34.280 age should have been in jail for at least ten years. 1:26:34.760 --> 1:26:38.919 I know, I know, but they were, like Korea felt differently, 1:26:38.960 --> 1:26:41.280 and they were given very lenient sentences and allowed to 1:26:41.280 --> 1:26:43.519 have another child that was not immediately taken away from them. 1:26:44.200 --> 1:26:46.479 So I wanted to look up and see if like 1:26:46.680 --> 1:26:51.240 internet gaming disorder like online addiction, has actually been recognized yet, 1:26:51.240 --> 1:26:55.680 and apparently in twenty thirteen, Internet gaming disorder is identified 1:26:55.840 --> 1:26:58.759 in section three of the DSM five as a condition 1:26:58.960 --> 1:27:02.519 warranting more clinical research and experience before it might be 1:27:02.560 --> 1:27:05.520 considered for inclusion in the main book as a formal disorder, 1:27:06.240 --> 1:27:09.519 but apparently the WHO, the World Health Organization, officially recognized 1:27:09.560 --> 1:27:13.760 gaming disorder in May of twenty nineteen, so it's not 1:27:13.760 --> 1:27:16.840 not in the DSM yet, but it has been recognized 1:27:16.880 --> 1:27:21.080 by one major organization as a problem. So that's that. 1:27:21.080 --> 1:27:27.200 That's the story. I know, it's so sad, it's really sad, 1:27:28.280 --> 1:27:31.360 but this Love Child documentary is interesting and they kind 1:27:31.400 --> 1:27:35.360 of talk about like, you know, what happened, but also, 1:27:36.479 --> 1:27:39.360 you know, the gaming problem in Korea. 1:27:40.040 --> 1:27:43.960 I under you know, it's it's tough, but I wouldn't 1:27:44.000 --> 1:27:48.640 feel bad for anyone else addicted to anything else, like 1:27:48.680 --> 1:27:51.559 if your baby died and you were out drinking or 1:27:51.560 --> 1:27:57.439 doing drugs or I don't there yeah, right this video game. 1:27:57.640 --> 1:28:00.519 Like obviously there's but like people have issues, but like 1:28:00.720 --> 1:28:03.799 I don't feel bad like if your baby dies. 1:28:04.560 --> 1:28:08.599 I just feel like that's so I know, long in jail, 1:28:09.840 --> 1:28:13.160 I know, I just feel like they were like the 1:28:13.200 --> 1:28:16.480 people in the show, like they were just like completely 1:28:16.720 --> 1:28:20.080 not on the planet, you know what I mean, Like 1:28:20.240 --> 1:28:23.240 besides her cap Groad delusion thing which was like added 1:28:23.280 --> 1:28:26.760 on to it, like they just like didn't notice when 1:28:26.800 --> 1:28:30.040 someone burst into their home, like they are just fully 1:28:30.360 --> 1:28:33.960 not living in reality, like not washing themselves, like not 1:28:34.640 --> 1:28:37.120 you know, it just feels like it's like a mental disorder, 1:28:37.160 --> 1:28:40.960 but not officially so I don't know. But I've got 1:28:41.000 --> 1:28:44.879 a great way to cleanse the palette of a deceased baby. 1:28:44.920 --> 1:28:47.760 And it is our next guest. Because you're just in 1:28:47.960 --> 1:28:58.400 for such a treat. I'm so excited about our guests, you, guys, 1:28:58.760 --> 1:29:02.959 Our guest today is truly I mean, we say prolific 1:29:03.040 --> 1:29:06.120 all the time, but the definition of prolific, Like, you 1:29:06.160 --> 1:29:08.680 can't start this. When you scroll this man's IMDb, it 1:29:08.760 --> 1:29:10.960 just goes on forever. Your your thumb will get a cramp. 1:29:11.360 --> 1:29:14.439 You might recognize him from TV shows like Silicon Valley, 1:29:14.520 --> 1:29:19.840 The Goldberg's, Californiaication, and so many others, but you, if 1:29:19.880 --> 1:29:22.679 you're me, he is most memorable to you as Ned 1:29:22.800 --> 1:29:26.719 Ryerson from groundhog Day, and you know him today as 1:29:26.920 --> 1:29:29.880 a pedophile who was wrongly framed for a different crime, 1:29:30.120 --> 1:29:35.920 Edwin Adelson. Guys, enjoy our beautiful conversation with Stephen Tobolowski. 1:29:36.400 --> 1:29:40.240 Oh my gosh, this is bitch. We're like thrilled. I'm 1:29:40.280 --> 1:29:42.240 like my mind is blown, Like I can't believe we're 1:29:42.240 --> 1:29:44.960 talking to you, Like you're just so like part of 1:29:45.000 --> 1:29:47.240 every movie or TV show I've like ever watched in 1:29:47.240 --> 1:29:49.760 my life, and I just I'm so thrilled you are 1:29:49.800 --> 1:29:50.920 willing to come on the podcast. 1:29:51.000 --> 1:29:56.280 It's kind of like mold in our house. It's just everywhere, everywhere. 1:29:57.160 --> 1:29:59.880 But before we get into full SVU step, since you 1:30:00.000 --> 1:30:03.519 who are so prolific, what do people stop you on 1:30:03.560 --> 1:30:04.280 the streets from? 1:30:04.400 --> 1:30:08.000 Do people what are the things you're most recognized from? Yeah, Like, 1:30:08.040 --> 1:30:09.920 I really need to know how many people call you 1:30:09.960 --> 1:30:12.160 Ned Ryerson on like a daily basis. 1:30:12.439 --> 1:30:15.160 Well, that's the one good thing about the pandemic, because 1:30:15.240 --> 1:30:18.200 you know, with the mask on a lot of people, 1:30:18.240 --> 1:30:21.439 you know, they go like is that Ned? I don't know, 1:30:22.280 --> 1:30:26.320 but usually at least one or two people a day 1:30:26.920 --> 1:30:31.200 spot me as Ned. And those people inevitably say, has 1:30:31.240 --> 1:30:35.160 anyone ever said are you Ned? And I say, yeah, 1:30:35.320 --> 1:30:38.840 like about thirty minutes ago. But what I do now 1:30:38.960 --> 1:30:42.360 is because my career over the time has become so 1:30:42.560 --> 1:30:45.400 varied when people come up to me and they go 1:30:45.520 --> 1:30:50.120 like you, I know you you were from? And then 1:30:50.160 --> 1:30:54.000 I have to do a quick terminator scan of the 1:30:54.040 --> 1:30:56.439 person and see like who is this person? What am 1:30:56.439 --> 1:30:58.080 I going to say? So if I see a tattoo, 1:30:58.160 --> 1:31:02.280 and I'll go like, yeah, Californication. I played stoop Eggs 1:31:02.280 --> 1:31:05.240 in Californication. If I see you like a nerdy T shirt, 1:31:05.240 --> 1:31:08.840 I go, yep, Silicon Valley, Yeah, Jack Barker, Silicon Valley. 1:31:09.280 --> 1:31:11.760 And if they're just you know, mom and dad and 1:31:11.760 --> 1:31:15.559 their kid going, I go, yep, it's ned but the 1:31:15.560 --> 1:31:18.200 best one I ever got, the best one I've ever gotten. 1:31:18.200 --> 1:31:22.559 I've gotten it twice now twice, which is remarkable. I 1:31:22.640 --> 1:31:25.800 was in a movie line in California and someone turned 1:31:25.840 --> 1:31:29.720 around and said, excuse me, are you the voice of 1:31:29.800 --> 1:31:32.920 the calculator in the Brave Little Toaster Goes to Mars? 1:31:33.840 --> 1:31:36.080 And I go, yes, I was the voice of the 1:31:36.160 --> 1:31:39.800 calculator and Brave Little Toaster goes to Mars. And now 1:31:40.320 --> 1:31:42.720 in my career, I've had two people come up to 1:31:42.760 --> 1:31:46.400 me and go, my god, I'm finally meeting you the 1:31:46.520 --> 1:31:49.880 voice of the calculator and Brave Little Toaster goes to Mars. 1:31:50.160 --> 1:31:52.400 My little kid just loved that movie. We watched it 1:31:52.439 --> 1:31:54.680 five hundred times a day. And you're the calculator. 1:31:55.160 --> 1:31:55.760 That's the thing. 1:31:55.800 --> 1:31:56.040 I mean. 1:31:56.080 --> 1:31:58.080 I'm a mom and I feel like if I heard 1:31:58.120 --> 1:32:01.040 somebody on the street that was from like Paw Patrol movie. 1:32:01.040 --> 1:32:04.040 I'd be like, excuse me, like I would know it. 1:32:04.160 --> 1:32:07.799 And I've done Paw Patrol. I have done Paw Patrol. 1:32:07.880 --> 1:32:10.160 I did their Christmas show. I play some kind of 1:32:10.240 --> 1:32:13.960 elf on Paw Patrol. Oh my god. Yeah, so this 1:32:13.960 --> 1:32:18.439 this Christmas season, be watching that Paw Patrol and be listening, 1:32:19.040 --> 1:32:21.920 you know, I would be listening for the Wayward Elf. 1:32:23.120 --> 1:32:25.200 I love it. I mean it must be so hard. 1:32:25.280 --> 1:32:27.320 That's funny that you're able to do like a scam 1:32:27.360 --> 1:32:29.400 because it's like you have over two hundred and eighty 1:32:29.400 --> 1:32:31.439 credits on IMDb. I'd be like if someone was like, 1:32:31.439 --> 1:32:33.160 where do I know you from, I'd be like, take 1:32:33.160 --> 1:32:35.080 out your IMDb app, I don't have time for this, 1:32:35.280 --> 1:32:38.479 Like you know you just like, has anyone munch recognize 1:32:38.520 --> 1:32:39.760 you from Freaky Friday? 1:32:40.320 --> 1:32:45.960 Oh god, yes, Freaky Friday, mister Bates and Freaky Friday. 1:32:46.200 --> 1:32:51.919 And I go absolutely absolutely. I even got one Clayton 1:32:51.960 --> 1:32:54.479 Townly head of the Ku Klux Klan, you know from 1:32:54.479 --> 1:32:57.920 Mississippi Burning? Are you Clayton Townly head of the Ku 1:32:58.000 --> 1:33:01.920 Klux Klan? And I go, well, in the movie, yeah, 1:33:02.080 --> 1:33:04.080 it was fiction, well not fiction, but it. 1:33:04.080 --> 1:33:07.960 Was you know, yeah, not me. Now are you You've 1:33:07.960 --> 1:33:10.120 got to be an offer only type guy? Right? 1:33:10.160 --> 1:33:13.880 Are you still out there auditioning or people are knocking 1:33:14.000 --> 1:33:14.439 on your door? 1:33:14.560 --> 1:33:19.679 I haven't. I well neither. So you know, the last 1:33:19.720 --> 1:33:23.760 few jobs I've gotten, I have not been I have 1:33:23.880 --> 1:33:26.320 not auditioned for. You know, they were offers. But I 1:33:26.360 --> 1:33:29.400 don't know. If I'm an offer only guy. I would 1:33:29.439 --> 1:33:31.679 tell my agents, Hey, you know, if I'm sitting around 1:33:31.760 --> 1:33:34.679 for a couple of months, hey, I'd be happy to audition. No, no, no, 1:33:34.720 --> 1:33:38.120 you know, but I don't really know what the situation is. 1:33:38.200 --> 1:33:41.120 But I just leave that to them and and fate. 1:33:41.360 --> 1:33:44.120 And just if somebody asked me to do something and 1:33:44.160 --> 1:33:46.160 it I'm available and it's something I want to do, 1:33:46.200 --> 1:33:46.559 I'll do. 1:33:46.520 --> 1:33:49.080 It right because I'm also I bet you're someone when 1:33:49.080 --> 1:33:52.080 people write a script they go like a Steven Tablowski type. 1:33:52.520 --> 1:33:55.439 Listen, listen, this is this is what really hurts. It 1:33:55.479 --> 1:33:59.280 really hurts. I had I was going through a dry period, 1:33:59.360 --> 1:34:03.920 as actors often do, and a friend of mine, Joel Reudnick, 1:34:04.160 --> 1:34:07.920 was an agent for I think I forget what now, 1:34:07.960 --> 1:34:12.160 but APA, I think APA, and Joel called me up 1:34:12.200 --> 1:34:16.080 and said, you won't believe this. I'm reading the breakdown 1:34:16.160 --> 1:34:21.400 here and it says Dad looking for a Stephen Tobolowski type. 1:34:23.080 --> 1:34:25.879 So I called it my agent and I got, hey, guys, 1:34:26.320 --> 1:34:29.280 I just want you to know what's in the breakdown here. 1:34:29.360 --> 1:34:32.200 And they said they're looking for a Stephen Tobolowski type. 1:34:32.400 --> 1:34:36.760 My agent said, you're not right for the part. I said, 1:34:36.800 --> 1:34:40.080 that's impossible. I'm Stephen. They said they want to look, 1:34:40.120 --> 1:34:42.200 we'll get you an audition, but you're not right for 1:34:42.240 --> 1:34:45.000 the part. So I went in audition, did not get 1:34:45.040 --> 1:34:48.360 a callback, and my agent said, told you not right 1:34:48.400 --> 1:34:48.840 for the part. 1:34:49.000 --> 1:34:50.880 Oh my, So what do you think that is? 1:34:51.760 --> 1:34:54.640 I have no idea, but it hurt deeply. You know, 1:34:54.880 --> 1:34:59.479 I just did a movie with with Chris Pine, which 1:34:59.560 --> 1:35:04.920 which was it could be really wonderful, and you know, 1:35:04.960 --> 1:35:07.960 the script was off the charts, one of the best 1:35:07.960 --> 1:35:11.559 scripts I'd read, and it was a terrific part. And 1:35:11.640 --> 1:35:14.000 they just wanted to Chris just wanted to talk to me, 1:35:14.520 --> 1:35:16.280 and so we met on zoom and we talked about 1:35:16.280 --> 1:35:18.680 the script. And the name of the character in the 1:35:18.840 --> 1:35:25.799 movie was Stephen Tagaroski, head of the La City Council 1:35:26.040 --> 1:35:29.360 Stephen Tagaroski, and I'm reading the script and I go, 1:35:29.600 --> 1:35:34.360 you gotta be kidding Steven. I mean, come on, guys. 1:35:34.840 --> 1:35:37.559 So I had a great talk with Chris. We talked 1:35:37.600 --> 1:35:40.000 about the part and all the different beats of the part. 1:35:40.520 --> 1:35:42.720 And then the next day I heard nothing. Then a 1:35:42.720 --> 1:35:45.599 week later get a call from my agent. Steven got 1:35:45.640 --> 1:35:49.920 good news. You're still in the running. I go, still 1:35:49.960 --> 1:35:53.960 in the running for Steven Tagaroski. At least they could 1:35:54.040 --> 1:35:57.120 change the name of the guy. I mean, that would 1:35:57.160 --> 1:35:59.600 really cut deep. But I did get the part then 1:35:59.680 --> 1:36:02.680 couldn't And yes, yes. 1:36:02.600 --> 1:36:05.759 Amazing, especially since you liked the script. And Chris Pine 1:36:05.920 --> 1:36:06.559 is a hottie. 1:36:07.120 --> 1:36:09.439 Well he's not only a haughty, but he's a goodie. 1:36:09.840 --> 1:36:11.720 He's a goody and a haughty. I mean, he's a 1:36:11.760 --> 1:36:15.400 wonderful actor, wonderful director. And uh. The movie is called 1:36:15.439 --> 1:36:19.439 pool Man, and I can't wait to see it come 1:36:19.439 --> 1:36:22.479 out because it will be cool man pool Man, and 1:36:22.520 --> 1:36:26.400 it will be very strange. It reminded me of old 1:36:27.120 --> 1:36:31.000 Robert Altman kind of films and kind of an altered reality. 1:36:31.640 --> 1:36:36.400 And I got hopes on it. You know, it made 1:36:36.479 --> 1:36:39.880 me laugh, it moved me, it's a strange movie, so 1:36:39.920 --> 1:36:40.840 I'm hoping it's good. 1:36:41.280 --> 1:36:44.200 Well, you know, you said the feelings you got reading 1:36:44.360 --> 1:36:47.519 this Chris Pine script when you got this Bullseye episode 1:36:47.520 --> 1:36:50.920 of Long Order SVU, what kind of feelings did you 1:36:51.000 --> 1:36:54.280 have about your character and what kind of time you remember, 1:36:54.360 --> 1:36:55.880 because we know it was a long time ago. 1:36:56.000 --> 1:36:58.479 It was a long time ago, but I remember when 1:36:58.640 --> 1:37:01.240 when the first Law Order thing I did was a 1:37:01.280 --> 1:37:05.080 criminal intent. But when I Bullseye was the first SVU 1:37:05.800 --> 1:37:08.880 show I did, And when I read that, I went like, 1:37:09.160 --> 1:37:13.960 oh my god, this is terrific. And my son was 1:37:14.000 --> 1:37:18.640 a huge SVU fan. My son was, and I was 1:37:18.800 --> 1:37:22.080 more of the classic Law and Order fan. You know 1:37:22.560 --> 1:37:25.280 now I've seen every one of them five hundred times. 1:37:25.560 --> 1:37:29.400 So Robert gave me a picture of Chris and Mariska, 1:37:29.680 --> 1:37:31.479 you know, like an eight by ten kind of thing 1:37:31.479 --> 1:37:34.519 and said, a Dad, when you go do this, can 1:37:34.560 --> 1:37:37.000 you get them to sign this for me? And I 1:37:37.000 --> 1:37:41.200 go sure. So I started watching some SVUS and I 1:37:41.240 --> 1:37:45.479 went like, oh, well, they kind of took the idea 1:37:45.600 --> 1:37:47.960 Law and Order always has a kind of twist in it, 1:37:48.479 --> 1:37:51.559 and they multiplied it by about three. And so when 1:37:51.640 --> 1:37:54.320 I read the script of Bullseye. I went, oh, now 1:37:54.360 --> 1:37:59.080 they've multiplied it by four. And I had no idea 1:37:59.200 --> 1:38:02.240 even reading script where it was going to end up 1:38:02.280 --> 1:38:05.840 and where it was going to turn. So I was 1:38:06.000 --> 1:38:10.080 thrilled to do this, first of all for my son Robert, 1:38:10.600 --> 1:38:13.920 and then because I'm reading the script and I go, wow, 1:38:14.720 --> 1:38:18.720 this is really because they had me going, and I 1:38:18.760 --> 1:38:21.920 thought the twists and turns were not cheapies, you know 1:38:21.960 --> 1:38:24.759 they were they were the kind of things that happened 1:38:25.160 --> 1:38:28.400 in this kind of a crime. But I was thrilled. 1:38:29.000 --> 1:38:33.439 I do have a kind of weird origin story about 1:38:33.880 --> 1:38:35.919 this episode of SVU. 1:38:36.439 --> 1:38:39.680 Is that okay, O, course, that's what we're here for. 1:38:40.160 --> 1:38:43.920 Yeah, the people who who know about Law and Order SVU. 1:38:44.680 --> 1:38:48.480 You know, it shot all over the place. Our costume 1:38:48.520 --> 1:38:51.599 area at that time for Bullseye was in New Jersey. 1:38:52.320 --> 1:38:55.600 That's where and that's where the bulk the cop bullpen is. 1:38:55.680 --> 1:38:59.360 That's where the jail cells were. Uh, that's kind of 1:38:59.360 --> 1:39:02.519 where RISCO would interrogate you if you were going to 1:39:02.560 --> 1:39:05.320 be in a room with the glass. That would be 1:39:05.360 --> 1:39:09.200 in their sets in New Jersey and on Chelsea Piers 1:39:09.200 --> 1:39:13.160 in Lower New York, you know, around twentieth Street or 1:39:13.160 --> 1:39:16.200 whatever on Twelfth Avenue way over by the water is 1:39:16.240 --> 1:39:19.200 where they have the courthouse, so you know, you shoot 1:39:19.240 --> 1:39:24.439 the courthouse there. And then in the process of the show, 1:39:24.560 --> 1:39:28.880 the various locations I had were my house was on 1:39:28.920 --> 1:39:32.880 the Upper West Side, I end up committing suicide and Harlem, 1:39:33.200 --> 1:39:36.160 so you know you're going to be all over the city. 1:39:36.479 --> 1:39:39.519 And so the idea of coming to New York to 1:39:39.640 --> 1:39:42.519 do a law and order show, which I loved, from 1:39:42.600 --> 1:39:46.160 criminal intent because you're always working with the best of 1:39:46.200 --> 1:39:48.679 the best. When you do a law and order show, 1:39:48.920 --> 1:39:51.920 it's just the way it is. Maybe it's because it's 1:39:51.960 --> 1:39:56.360 a machine, but it is a well oiled machine. You know, 1:39:56.439 --> 1:39:59.960 everybody knows what they're doing so well. So I was thrilled. 1:40:00.160 --> 1:40:03.080 And they put me up at some schnazzy hotel on 1:40:03.320 --> 1:40:06.000 Central Park South, where you know, the first one is 1:40:06.040 --> 1:40:08.040 the Plaza, and I was not at the Plaza, but 1:40:08.080 --> 1:40:11.400 I was down there, really schnazzy hotel. They brought me 1:40:11.479 --> 1:40:13.320 in and the only thing I really had to do 1:40:13.360 --> 1:40:16.120 that day was to go to New Jersey for costume fitting. 1:40:16.400 --> 1:40:19.639 That's all I had to do. So I thought I 1:40:19.680 --> 1:40:23.080 am in the Big Apple. I am going to embrace 1:40:23.240 --> 1:40:26.519 the city with all the gusto I have. I'm going 1:40:26.560 --> 1:40:29.040 to get up early. I'm going to take my script. 1:40:29.040 --> 1:40:30.559 I'm going to go out to one of the little 1:40:30.600 --> 1:40:33.560 breakfast joints they have here in New York City that 1:40:33.840 --> 1:40:36.439 are everywhere. Greece he's been study my script and all 1:40:36.479 --> 1:40:39.360 this kind of stuff and the hustle and bustle of 1:40:39.360 --> 1:40:41.160 New York. I came out of the hotel. So I'm 1:40:41.200 --> 1:40:45.080 on Central Park South in like about eighth Avenue, kind 1:40:45.080 --> 1:40:48.400 of over there, and there's nobody anywhere. The city is deserted, 1:40:49.000 --> 1:40:50.559 and I'm going now. I feel like I'm in a 1:40:50.600 --> 1:40:53.519 science fiction movie. I mean, there wasn't even a lot 1:40:53.560 --> 1:40:56.840 of traffic. I could hear cars somewhere, but there was 1:40:56.920 --> 1:40:59.960 no one on the street. So I start walking down 1:41:00.320 --> 1:41:04.839 the avenue downtown looking for one of the many breakfast 1:41:04.920 --> 1:41:07.280 joints there are in New York. And all the breakfast 1:41:07.360 --> 1:41:10.720 joints are gone. And I know this is sounding like 1:41:10.800 --> 1:41:13.240 a dream of some sort, but they all got replaced 1:41:13.280 --> 1:41:17.280 by Starbucks. All those cute little breakfast places were all gone. 1:41:17.640 --> 1:41:20.800 And I walked down about six blocks and then over 1:41:20.880 --> 1:41:24.040 on the right, there is a place that looks like 1:41:24.320 --> 1:41:27.719 they would serve eggs. And it's like eight in the morning, 1:41:27.800 --> 1:41:31.600 something like that now. And I go in and you 1:41:31.800 --> 1:41:35.920 walk up to the cash register and the hostess is 1:41:35.960 --> 1:41:38.400 there at the cash register to seat you. And I 1:41:38.479 --> 1:41:41.479 get going and there's a tap on my shoulder as 1:41:41.479 --> 1:41:44.640 I'm going and I turned around and it's Chris Maloney. 1:41:46.760 --> 1:41:48.880 I go, what now. I feel like I'm in some 1:41:49.040 --> 1:41:52.599 kind of a dream. And I turn around. I go Chris. 1:41:53.479 --> 1:41:56.559 He goes so and then he sees the script and laughs, 1:41:56.640 --> 1:41:59.719 and he goes, you know, I'm not working this morning. 1:42:00.000 --> 1:42:03.360 I want to rehearse. And I said, you gotta be kidding. 1:42:03.680 --> 1:42:07.680 So Chris and I sat down, had breakfast together and 1:42:07.840 --> 1:42:12.479 rehearsed our scenes in this deserted coffee shop and this 1:42:12.640 --> 1:42:17.080 deserted part of New York City. It was like a miracle. 1:42:18.080 --> 1:42:20.120 If it had been a Hallmark movie, it would have 1:42:20.160 --> 1:42:22.479 been I would have been wearing the red dress. It was. 1:42:22.600 --> 1:42:24.800 I wonder what he was even doing there, like in 1:42:24.840 --> 1:42:27.479 that part of Manhattan on his day off. Well, he 1:42:27.560 --> 1:42:29.440 lives on the Upper West I think. 1:42:29.360 --> 1:42:31.600 Yeah, he was, he was going to be he was 1:42:31.640 --> 1:42:34.000 going to be going in later for work. But he 1:42:34.040 --> 1:42:36.519 had the morning free and thought he would just do 1:42:36.640 --> 1:42:40.240 a little jogging or some little exercise. But and we 1:42:40.320 --> 1:42:44.040 sat down and while we were working on the scene, 1:42:44.680 --> 1:42:47.960 we went I think I had a couple couple scenes 1:42:47.960 --> 1:42:51.680 with While we were reading through the different scenes, he 1:42:51.800 --> 1:42:55.360 started musing about theater and he said, so, do you 1:42:55.400 --> 1:42:58.400 do a lot of theater in Los Angeles? And at 1:42:58.400 --> 1:43:00.840 the time, I said, yeah, yeah, my wife and I 1:43:00.880 --> 1:43:03.640 were both involved in theater. He said, I miss it 1:43:03.680 --> 1:43:06.639 so much. He says, I love the show. I love 1:43:06.680 --> 1:43:08.439 doing the show. But when you do the show, you 1:43:08.520 --> 1:43:12.040 really can't do anything else, even like have a life, 1:43:12.520 --> 1:43:17.200 you can't. You know, it's constant. He said, I may 1:43:17.200 --> 1:43:22.400 be out in Los Angeles next year, and if you're 1:43:22.439 --> 1:43:26.639 working on a play or if something comes up, give 1:43:26.680 --> 1:43:30.439 me a call and I'll do it. And I'll do 1:43:30.520 --> 1:43:33.800 it for free. You don't have to pay me. It's 1:43:34.040 --> 1:43:38.160 just it's just I'm a theater actor first. And when 1:43:38.160 --> 1:43:41.519 you do this, you get this hunger, this loss for 1:43:41.640 --> 1:43:44.400 doing the theater. And I'd love to get back in it. 1:43:45.160 --> 1:43:48.959 And I said, absolutely, Chris, absolutely. You know we're involved 1:43:49.000 --> 1:43:54.400 with some of the theaters downtown. I said, I'm sure 1:43:54.439 --> 1:43:56.960 they would you know, kiss the hem of your garment, 1:43:57.040 --> 1:44:00.080 if you mean, hand of it. But it was like 1:44:00.360 --> 1:44:04.639 an amazing moment to start working on that show. 1:44:04.960 --> 1:44:07.320 And that's so funny because that ended up being his 1:44:07.439 --> 1:44:08.400 last season on the show. 1:44:08.600 --> 1:44:08.800 Yep. 1:44:09.080 --> 1:44:11.320 So it sounds like he was having a hankering to 1:44:11.360 --> 1:44:13.479 do some different stuff and you know you were hearing 1:44:13.520 --> 1:44:13.960 about it. 1:44:14.200 --> 1:44:16.920 Yes, And when I got back to Los Angeles and 1:44:17.000 --> 1:44:20.280 I was telling some of the people about Chris, you know, 1:44:20.320 --> 1:44:23.479 maybe coming out and we should be looking for a 1:44:23.520 --> 1:44:28.439 play that could use him in that And of course 1:44:30.560 --> 1:44:32.880 as soon as he came out to LA he got 1:44:32.920 --> 1:44:36.160 another show. Yeah, so that's what True Blood or something 1:44:36.200 --> 1:44:36.439 like that. 1:44:36.960 --> 1:44:38.800 Oh yeah, he was on True Blood for a little while. 1:44:38.920 --> 1:44:41.240 Ye. Yeah. So as soon as he hit the ground there, 1:44:41.280 --> 1:44:43.360 you know they're going to snatch him up. I mean, 1:44:43.400 --> 1:44:49.360 there are very few a certifiable television stars and he's 1:44:49.400 --> 1:44:53.240 one of them. He's also, whether on TV or film 1:44:53.400 --> 1:44:58.240 or theater, a great actor, so so you know he translates, 1:44:58.720 --> 1:45:02.559 but you know he's gonna get snatched up. He just is. 1:45:02.960 --> 1:45:05.000 That's so fun Thanks for telling us that, because we 1:45:05.000 --> 1:45:08.400 don't get as many stories about Maloney, Like a lot 1:45:08.439 --> 1:45:11.200 of people like have interactions with Marishka, but they don't 1:45:11.240 --> 1:45:13.840 necessarily like it sounded like in the twelve seasons he 1:45:13.920 --> 1:45:15.320 was on the show, he kind of did his own 1:45:15.360 --> 1:45:18.640 thing and nice to hear a little Maloney's story. But 1:45:18.760 --> 1:45:20.840 you got to do so much in this episode, Like 1:45:20.880 --> 1:45:23.800 you get an interrogation, you get a courtroom scene, you 1:45:23.880 --> 1:45:28.040 get to you get your butt kicked in a holding cell, 1:45:28.439 --> 1:45:31.320 and then you just get to draw I mean, minute 1:45:31.360 --> 1:45:33.720 per minute of what the action that you get to do. 1:45:33.800 --> 1:45:36.240 You're not on you're not in the episode for too 1:45:36.320 --> 1:45:37.800 too much, and you get to do a lot. 1:45:38.080 --> 1:45:42.240 I if you have an SVU checklist, I got to 1:45:42.320 --> 1:45:44.840 do all the stuff. I got arrested on the Upper 1:45:44.880 --> 1:45:47.759 west Side. Yes, I got the purf walk in front 1:45:47.760 --> 1:45:50.720 of my wife. Yeah, you know. And of course when 1:45:50.760 --> 1:45:52.519 you're doing it on the Upper west Side, there are 1:45:52.560 --> 1:45:56.479 people out there that are just people, and they at 1:45:56.520 --> 1:46:00.519 first they don't know. I mean, there's the cameras and 1:46:00.560 --> 1:46:03.040 there's all that that they just see me coming out 1:46:04.040 --> 1:46:06.439 right and they think, oh my god, is there a 1:46:06.439 --> 1:46:10.320 police action here. Oh no, it's ANVU action here. So 1:46:10.600 --> 1:46:13.599 I got purf walked on the Upper west Side. I 1:46:13.640 --> 1:46:16.760 got blown up in Harlem, I got beaten up by 1:46:17.200 --> 1:46:20.840 I got punched out in the jail cell I. You know, 1:46:20.880 --> 1:46:23.439 they had to do makeup on me, to have like 1:46:23.560 --> 1:46:26.200 cuts and bruises on my face. I got to go 1:46:26.320 --> 1:46:30.680 to Chelsea Peers and be in the courthouse. Everything you 1:46:30.680 --> 1:46:32.960 could do on a Law and Order show, I got 1:46:32.960 --> 1:46:34.480 to do in Bullseye. 1:46:34.600 --> 1:46:37.559 You know, sometimes I say there's episodes that feel like movies. 1:46:37.600 --> 1:46:40.000 There's like a few episodes of SFU that really feel 1:46:40.040 --> 1:46:41.920 like movies, and I think this is one of them. 1:46:42.000 --> 1:46:44.840 Like I were like the guy, like just the big 1:46:44.880 --> 1:46:47.080 twist at the end feels like a movie to me. 1:46:47.200 --> 1:46:50.200 Yes, yes, yes, you don't really see that coming. 1:46:50.680 --> 1:46:51.040 Yeah. 1:46:51.200 --> 1:46:54.519 And then you're back on season twenty. You come back 1:46:54.560 --> 1:46:57.040 as an attorney. How was that experience? 1:46:57.320 --> 1:47:01.679 Oh that was great as Cayman. What was my name? 1:47:02.120 --> 1:47:05.000 Yeah, something like that. You were a lawyer for, you know, 1:47:05.080 --> 1:47:05.879 a sex offender. 1:47:05.960 --> 1:47:10.439 As I remember. I remember Cayman because Cayman is a 1:47:10.880 --> 1:47:15.120 South American crocodile, right, And you know I read I 1:47:15.200 --> 1:47:17.519 read the script and I go, oh, now I get 1:47:17.520 --> 1:47:22.160 to play the smart alec defense attorney. And by this 1:47:22.280 --> 1:47:24.760 point when I come back to do Law and Order 1:47:24.840 --> 1:47:27.519 as for you. The second time, it was like Old 1:47:27.560 --> 1:47:30.759 Home Week, and and it been many years in between, 1:47:31.160 --> 1:47:35.719 but it's again, here's an example that maybe the people 1:47:35.760 --> 1:47:40.439 don't understand courtroom scenes. Right when you're a defense attorney, 1:47:40.680 --> 1:47:43.960 you are going to be in the courtroom. Like, courtroom 1:47:44.040 --> 1:47:48.040 scenes on television shows are the hardest things to shoot. 1:47:48.439 --> 1:47:49.160 Why is that. 1:47:50.840 --> 1:47:52.920 Because of all the coverage because. 1:47:52.600 --> 1:47:56.680 They're in the courtroom. Yes, no, you're right, all the 1:47:56.720 --> 1:48:00.720 coverage because you have to shoot. You have to shoot 1:48:01.560 --> 1:48:04.599 different sizes. First of all, the witness usually get that 1:48:05.080 --> 1:48:07.000 and while you're in that direction, then you turn the 1:48:07.040 --> 1:48:08.840 cameras and you get the jury, and then you have 1:48:08.880 --> 1:48:12.400 to pick out individual jury members. Then you have to 1:48:12.439 --> 1:48:14.960 turn to the defense table and you have to get 1:48:15.000 --> 1:48:18.880 that lawyer that was me and also my client. Then 1:48:18.920 --> 1:48:21.120 you have to go to the prosecutors. They all get one. 1:48:21.200 --> 1:48:24.320 Then you finish on the judge. Yeah, it takes forever, 1:48:24.920 --> 1:48:29.439 except on Law and Order SVU. On Law and Order SVU, 1:48:30.920 --> 1:48:34.639 we did a four page. Four pages is a lot 1:48:35.920 --> 1:48:39.120 for people who don't know page counts. If you do 1:48:39.200 --> 1:48:43.519 a television show, you are tuling if you do ten 1:48:43.600 --> 1:48:46.599 pages a day. If you do ten pages a day, 1:48:46.640 --> 1:48:50.200 that's like it's on a movie. You do one to 1:48:50.280 --> 1:48:54.000 two pages a day. So we did a four and 1:48:54.040 --> 1:48:58.240 a half page courtroom scene in like two and a 1:48:58.280 --> 1:49:02.599 half three hours. No, wow, it was amazing to watch. 1:49:02.880 --> 1:49:06.280 And again it's because the people work on Law and 1:49:06.439 --> 1:49:10.240 Order and Law and Order SVU they are the best. 1:49:10.400 --> 1:49:13.679 And I've worked on shows where people are the best, 1:49:13.760 --> 1:49:16.400 like I've done a few years on the Goldbergs. It's 1:49:16.439 --> 1:49:20.880 another group of people who are the best in terms 1:49:20.880 --> 1:49:23.479 of crew. They know how to shoot it, they know 1:49:23.520 --> 1:49:25.080 where to put the camera, they know where to put 1:49:25.080 --> 1:49:27.880 the lights. It's boom boom, boom, boom boom shoot and 1:49:27.920 --> 1:49:30.320 as actors you're not waiting a ton of time in 1:49:30.400 --> 1:49:35.240 between shots. So that was great. But again it was 1:49:35.280 --> 1:49:36.800 a lot of fun. I spent a lot of my 1:49:36.880 --> 1:49:41.000 time this time, of course, with Mariska and lots of 1:49:41.040 --> 1:49:47.400 time with her, and she is fantastic. And when you 1:49:47.520 --> 1:49:52.759 work with people who end up doing a part for 1:49:52.880 --> 1:49:58.080 a long time, a certain malaise sets in where they 1:49:58.240 --> 1:50:02.439 kind of go on automatic and they don't really they 1:50:02.520 --> 1:50:04.960 kind of give it what they have and it's good enough, 1:50:05.120 --> 1:50:10.040 good enough. Good enough is not part of Marishka's being 1:50:10.760 --> 1:50:15.559 it's not part of it. It's in this episode. I 1:50:15.680 --> 1:50:20.519 had I think two scenes with her, maybe three, and 1:50:20.640 --> 1:50:24.599 she's always working on the part and the scene, and 1:50:24.600 --> 1:50:26.920 she's always working with you. How does this work? Stephen? 1:50:26.960 --> 1:50:28.800 What if I come at it with this? What if 1:50:28.800 --> 1:50:31.639 I do? And with an intensity and it's as if 1:50:31.680 --> 1:50:34.599 it were the first time. And if somebody says, what 1:50:34.640 --> 1:50:41.320 does it take to be a star on television? That's 1:50:41.360 --> 1:50:44.160 what it takes. You have to be able to have 1:50:44.320 --> 1:50:47.439 every day be the first day with the excitement that 1:50:47.520 --> 1:50:51.520 she has and these and not only that, that's really hilarious. 1:50:52.640 --> 1:50:56.680 You know, we're working that time in all the familiar 1:50:56.760 --> 1:50:59.840 Law and Order buildings down in that area of New 1:51:00.080 --> 1:51:03.720 York City, the courthouse, the courthouse steps that we know 1:51:03.840 --> 1:51:08.360 from the regular law and all all the iconic sets 1:51:08.640 --> 1:51:13.000 of every Law and Order show. And I'm walking to 1:51:13.080 --> 1:51:16.840 the set with Mrshka and down the sidewalk in New 1:51:16.960 --> 1:51:22.880 York and policemen who are working directing traffic here there 1:51:22.920 --> 1:51:27.240 and everywhere they look and they go, morning, morning, how 1:51:27.280 --> 1:51:29.599 are you? How are you? And they're looking at her 1:51:29.800 --> 1:51:33.679 as one of their own, not as a movie star, 1:51:33.880 --> 1:51:36.160 not as a television star, but as one of their 1:51:36.200 --> 1:51:40.519 own and the respect she gets from everyone around her, 1:51:41.080 --> 1:51:45.479 and it's because she treats everyone so well. Again, it's 1:51:45.520 --> 1:51:48.160 part of the best best best, best best. And you know, 1:51:48.200 --> 1:51:50.920 when you work on those shows where people are the best, 1:51:51.760 --> 1:51:54.040 it's hard to be the best. When it's when the 1:51:54.080 --> 1:51:57.559 work is that hard and you're that successful, it's easy 1:51:57.600 --> 1:52:01.120 to get lazy. But she wasn't ever, and it's hard. 1:52:01.120 --> 1:52:01.800 You can't. Really. 1:52:02.600 --> 1:52:04.400 I don't think the show would work if you half 1:52:04.439 --> 1:52:07.360 asset because it's so dramatic and it's like all of 1:52:07.400 --> 1:52:09.760 these victims and all the guest stars are giving so much, 1:52:09.800 --> 1:52:12.640 and like you need someone that's going to show up 1:52:12.640 --> 1:52:13.200 for everybody. 1:52:13.360 --> 1:52:17.280 You need someone who's going to show up. And you know, 1:52:19.680 --> 1:52:22.680 and again, when I was doing the second show, you 1:52:22.720 --> 1:52:26.559 had the whole other cast, you know, not the cast 1:52:26.640 --> 1:52:28.720 that I knew from the first show. Chris was gone 1:52:28.760 --> 1:52:31.960 at that point. You have new DA's new people working 1:52:32.000 --> 1:52:35.000 the police Spark. All of them were fabulous. Yeah, and 1:52:35.680 --> 1:52:38.960 I wonder if it's just part of the show. 1:52:40.200 --> 1:52:43.479 Yeah, And I wonder if mister Kaman can make a return. 1:52:43.600 --> 1:52:45.600 I mean, yeah, we need to be back. Well, you 1:52:45.600 --> 1:52:49.000 could be another dirt Bags defense attorney at some point. 1:52:49.920 --> 1:52:52.760 Now in this I wasn't really quite I was ready 1:52:52.800 --> 1:52:55.639 to be a dirt bag, but in this I kind 1:52:55.640 --> 1:52:59.200 of side with the judge, going like these people are 1:52:59.200 --> 1:52:59.960 from Missouri. 1:53:00.240 --> 1:53:04.400 You know That's what's so like you to me are 1:53:04.479 --> 1:53:06.519 such a comedy actor. I know you've done it all, 1:53:06.560 --> 1:53:09.320 but like what I know you from is so much comedy. 1:53:09.400 --> 1:53:12.639 Like you just really make me laugh. And so even 1:53:12.640 --> 1:53:14.639 when you got like I didn't think you were funny 1:53:14.680 --> 1:53:18.920 as the character in Bullseye, like that was obviously more serious. 1:53:18.960 --> 1:53:21.160 But in this one, even as this defense attorney, when 1:53:21.160 --> 1:53:23.160 you go up to like give the marriage license and 1:53:23.200 --> 1:53:26.479 you're like, yeah, they're married in Missouri, I was just 1:53:26.520 --> 1:53:29.519 like laughing so hard, even though it's like wrong like 1:53:29.560 --> 1:53:31.720 this this man should not have married a thirteen year 1:53:31.720 --> 1:53:34.439 old stepdaughter, but I was like, this is too funny. 1:53:34.520 --> 1:53:37.040 You just cracked me up. So I guess I'm just 1:53:37.120 --> 1:53:39.200 telling you that and that there's no question. But do 1:53:39.280 --> 1:53:42.320 you have like a do you have a not like 1:53:42.400 --> 1:53:46.000 a preference, but do you like lean into trying to 1:53:46.000 --> 1:53:48.280 do stuff that's not comedy because you've done more comedy 1:53:48.360 --> 1:53:51.040 or do you you've done it all, but like you know. 1:53:51.120 --> 1:53:53.439 What is it when you're drawn to a role? Is 1:53:53.479 --> 1:53:55.559 it like you love the comedy, you love the drama? 1:53:55.680 --> 1:54:00.000 What well, since you're both, since you're both comedians, both comedians, 1:54:00.439 --> 1:54:04.760 I bring up from my wall of crap one of 1:54:04.760 --> 1:54:05.439 my favorite books. 1:54:05.520 --> 1:54:07.400 Let me see if I got yes. 1:54:07.640 --> 1:54:12.040 The book is Sigmund Freud Jokes and the Relationship to 1:54:12.080 --> 1:54:16.400 the Unconscious, and it is. It is a series of 1:54:16.479 --> 1:54:22.400 lectures Sigmund Freud did in Munich in nineteen fifteen on comedy, 1:54:23.280 --> 1:54:26.479 on comedy, and he said, what I'm going to do is, 1:54:26.560 --> 1:54:29.200 and you got to read this book. You would love it. 1:54:29.240 --> 1:54:32.160 As comedians, you would love this book. He has jokes, 1:54:32.160 --> 1:54:36.040 and he said, I'm not going to analyze jokes that exist. Now. 1:54:36.360 --> 1:54:37.920 What I'm going to do is, I'm going to take 1:54:38.040 --> 1:54:43.960 jokes from a generation or two past to where the 1:54:44.000 --> 1:54:47.400 actual principles of the joke don't exist anymore, so you 1:54:47.440 --> 1:54:50.040 could see what the workings of the joke are. And 1:54:50.080 --> 1:54:54.640 so he had jokes in there about matchmakers and bill 1:54:54.720 --> 1:54:58.200 collectors and all sorts of things, the village idiot and 1:54:58.280 --> 1:55:03.480 all this stuff from the eighteen hundreds. And his conclusion 1:55:04.200 --> 1:55:09.240 is that comedy is making the meaningful meaningless or making 1:55:09.280 --> 1:55:15.040 the meaningless meaningful. And when you do the one of 1:55:15.080 --> 1:55:18.480 those two things, you are able to turn a moment 1:55:18.520 --> 1:55:21.360 into comedy. So, in terms of law and orders, Bil Cayman, 1:55:21.840 --> 1:55:28.880 we're obviously in a meaningful situation because my client, honest, 1:55:28.920 --> 1:55:31.640 what may be murder right, you know, on the way 1:55:31.680 --> 1:55:33.920 to jail is some sort of thing. I'm defending him. 1:55:34.880 --> 1:55:38.720 And so if you take that meaningful situation and slip 1:55:38.720 --> 1:55:42.560 a bit of meaningless into it on an innocent line, 1:55:43.240 --> 1:55:49.160 you're honor, he's from Missouri. That it makes the meaningful 1:55:49.240 --> 1:55:53.240 meaningless and it creates comedy. So I don't try to think, well, 1:55:53.320 --> 1:55:55.200 let me, how can I be funny? But I take 1:55:55.200 --> 1:55:58.080 a look at what is the meaningful nature of the situation, 1:55:58.800 --> 1:56:03.080 and how can and is it appropriate for me to 1:56:03.120 --> 1:56:06.880 make light of the situation by making something meaningful meaningless 1:56:06.960 --> 1:56:11.200 at this time? And and uh so that's a that's 1:56:11.240 --> 1:56:12.560 a good indication, it's. 1:56:12.440 --> 1:56:15.000 A great lesson. But I don't want to take that. 1:56:15.280 --> 1:56:19.720 Yes, I don't look like how can I make this funny? 1:56:19.760 --> 1:56:22.880 I just usually try to tell the truth. And if 1:56:22.880 --> 1:56:28.920 the situation, uh is ridiculous, and I take it seriously, 1:56:29.000 --> 1:56:32.360 and I'm truthful about it, it'll come out funny. And 1:56:32.440 --> 1:56:36.520 if the situation is not serious, you know, you you 1:56:36.600 --> 1:56:39.400 get the idea. You just you just make the meaningful 1:56:39.440 --> 1:56:41.000 meaningless or meaningless meaningful. 1:56:42.040 --> 1:56:45.160 Yeah, you've been like acting for so long and you, 1:56:45.400 --> 1:56:47.440 like we said, you have so many credits, you've done 1:56:47.520 --> 1:56:49.640 you've done it all, Like do you have any what 1:56:49.760 --> 1:56:53.120 are like, what's the Stephen Tobolowski like big advice tips 1:56:53.120 --> 1:56:55.200 on how you stay sane in this business. 1:56:55.760 --> 1:56:57.840 I don't know it's how you stay sane, but but 1:56:57.960 --> 1:57:02.920 it's like the easier tip to give someone is to 1:57:02.960 --> 1:57:08.360 say yes, to say yes, and not worry about where 1:57:08.400 --> 1:57:12.920 it's going to lead. I said yes to doing the 1:57:12.960 --> 1:57:16.120 principal on The Goldbergs. It was their second season. They 1:57:16.120 --> 1:57:20.560 weren't offering me much money. I said yes, it's okay. 1:57:20.600 --> 1:57:23.680 I was doing two other shows at the same I 1:57:23.720 --> 1:57:27.400 was doing big time in Hollywood, Florida I think at 1:57:27.400 --> 1:57:31.720 that time, which was hilarious. And I just said yes. 1:57:32.320 --> 1:57:35.800 And I ended up on the show for what eight seasons, 1:57:37.040 --> 1:57:40.520 you know, and each season, you know, I had a lot, 1:57:40.640 --> 1:57:43.080 you know, I think I ended up doing like forty 1:57:43.160 --> 1:57:47.160 episodes or something, all because I said yes. To this 1:57:47.760 --> 1:57:51.680 two line part of the principal and so just say 1:57:51.760 --> 1:57:57.600 yes beyond time. Oh, that's the biggest thing in the 1:57:57.640 --> 1:58:01.240 world of people who are late. Be on time, because 1:58:01.320 --> 1:58:05.200 I've seen people not fired for being bad actors, but 1:58:05.280 --> 1:58:08.920 I've seen him fired for being late because you are 1:58:09.040 --> 1:58:14.760 keeping fifty sixty seventy people on the hook if you 1:58:14.800 --> 1:58:18.000 don't show up on time. Yeah, so be on time, 1:58:18.640 --> 1:58:22.240 Be nice, be nice to everybody. Here's a be nice 1:58:22.280 --> 1:58:26.800 to everybody story that's very quick, but very amazing. When 1:58:26.800 --> 1:58:30.280 I was doing Groundhog Day, our scene, that first scene 1:58:30.600 --> 1:58:33.600 with me and Bill was first up, first day, and 1:58:33.640 --> 1:58:35.880 of course I was nervous as can be, and I 1:58:35.960 --> 1:58:39.200 had to everything had to be exactly the same, and 1:58:39.320 --> 1:58:42.040 it would be the same throughout the whole movie. Every 1:58:42.040 --> 1:58:44.600 time we shot that scene. I had to start on 1:58:44.640 --> 1:58:46.560 the same foot. I had to step on the same 1:58:46.600 --> 1:58:49.160 spot on the street and go, oh, fail fail with 1:58:49.240 --> 1:58:52.960 the same finger, turn my finger down, it's me ned, 1:58:53.080 --> 1:58:55.840 And I had to run up to him Ryerson, take 1:58:55.880 --> 1:58:59.440 off my hat exactly the same because it's the same day, repeated. 1:59:00.160 --> 1:59:05.640 They had an assistant director. It was his first job, 1:59:06.840 --> 1:59:09.360 a kind of lower ad, and his job was to 1:59:09.440 --> 1:59:13.120 kneel in the street, hold his finger up and when 1:59:13.160 --> 1:59:16.520 my foot touches the right brick. Because he's off camera, 1:59:16.760 --> 1:59:19.200 he would do this like there and that was my 1:59:19.320 --> 1:59:22.680 cue to turn. So I'm just walking straight kind of 1:59:22.720 --> 1:59:26.480 toward him and he's off camera and then he's like 1:59:27.160 --> 1:59:30.600 that was his job, and that's when my right foot 1:59:30.680 --> 1:59:33.680 landed on the brick. I turned, oh, fail fail each 1:59:33.760 --> 1:59:39.280 time he was there, that person Jim Kettlewyse, who ended 1:59:39.360 --> 1:59:43.560 up being my producer on Silicon Valley. 1:59:44.320 --> 1:59:44.720 Wow. 1:59:44.760 --> 1:59:48.080 So you know, just because the guy's pointing at the 1:59:48.120 --> 1:59:51.560 brick today doesn't mean he's going to be pointing at 1:59:51.560 --> 1:59:54.320 the brick tomorrow, you know. And it's one reason why 1:59:54.360 --> 1:59:59.560 Peter on the SVU show, you know, Bullseye, Peter Let 1:59:59.600 --> 2:00:01.800 it was so such a great, great, great, great great 2:00:01.840 --> 2:00:05.760 director of that like boom boom boom boom boom, because 2:00:06.080 --> 2:00:09.480 you take a look at his resume, he's been third 2:00:09.560 --> 2:00:13.960 a D, second AD, first AD. He had worked every 2:00:14.240 --> 2:00:18.200 angle on that set before he became a director on 2:00:18.240 --> 2:00:23.040 that show. Same thing was true in Californication. A lot 2:00:23.040 --> 2:00:26.520 of the people who began, as you know, ads on 2:00:26.600 --> 2:00:28.839 this thing worked their way up and they ended up directing. 2:00:29.000 --> 2:00:35.040 It's it is if you treat people okay and are competent, 2:00:35.160 --> 2:00:36.960 you have ability for upward movement. 2:00:37.520 --> 2:00:42.480 Yeah. I'm taking it all in. Yeah so much. Do 2:00:42.520 --> 2:00:44.680 you have anything we want to let you get on 2:00:44.760 --> 2:00:46.400 with your David? Do you have anything that you want 2:00:46.440 --> 2:00:49.440 our listeners to check out besides pool Man, that's what 2:00:49.480 --> 2:00:51.360 you talked about before here, I am. 2:00:51.280 --> 2:00:53.800 Will be out. I just finished. This is something I 2:00:54.080 --> 2:00:57.680 just finished, like a week ago. I did for the 2:00:57.720 --> 2:01:01.560 first time in my career, a Hallmark Chris this movie. Yes, 2:01:02.520 --> 2:01:06.800 and it's called hauling Out the Hive, hauling out the Ivy, 2:01:08.000 --> 2:01:12.040 hauling out the Holly, hauling out the Holly. And it's 2:01:12.080 --> 2:01:16.360 going to play Saturday night, Thanksgiving Weekend at eight o'clock. 2:01:16.440 --> 2:01:19.360 And the thing that you even if you don't like, 2:01:19.560 --> 2:01:24.240 I'd like Hallmark Christmas movies. My wife does it, you know. 2:01:24.320 --> 2:01:27.080 So we get in bed. She wants to watch Forensic Files. 2:01:27.200 --> 2:01:30.480 I'm going no, I want to watch the You're not 2:01:30.520 --> 2:01:33.120 going to get a nightmare from the Hallmark Christmas What 2:01:33.280 --> 2:01:36.040 I never knew about the Hallmark Christmas movie. And this 2:01:36.120 --> 2:01:39.760 is one reason you could watch and just be amazed 2:01:39.800 --> 2:01:42.400 by it, because I always thought what they did is 2:01:42.440 --> 2:01:45.120 they went to an area where you take a little 2:01:45.120 --> 2:01:47.040 bus up to a little area where there's snow, and 2:01:47.080 --> 2:01:49.040 they set up the set and you just do it. No, 2:01:50.000 --> 2:01:53.000 we shot the thing in a place called Sandy Utah, 2:01:53.360 --> 2:01:56.800 which is about thirty minutes from Salt Lake City. It 2:01:56.880 --> 2:02:00.000 was one hundred three to one hundred twelve or thirteen 2:02:00.080 --> 2:02:04.120 degrees every day. But if you're in the Hallmark Christmas movie, 2:02:04.280 --> 2:02:08.400 you have to wear winter clothing, and so it's that 2:02:08.560 --> 2:02:13.040 hot outside. Then you put on layers of clothes like 2:02:13.120 --> 2:02:15.080 the shirt you put on this, Then you put on 2:02:15.120 --> 2:02:17.120 a sweater, then you put on a vest and a coat, 2:02:17.280 --> 2:02:19.080 then a half in the ear, most of the gloves 2:02:19.320 --> 2:02:23.280 in one hundred and eight degrees, and they have white 2:02:23.280 --> 2:02:26.400 cloth on the ground and they're going to cegi in 2:02:26.480 --> 2:02:29.280 the snow later. And then they put fake snow on 2:02:29.360 --> 2:02:31.840 the trees that are just in the background of the shot. 2:02:32.160 --> 2:02:35.480 And they shoot an entire movie in two and a 2:02:35.520 --> 2:02:40.440 half weeks, an entire movie. And I think the reason 2:02:40.520 --> 2:02:42.040 they do it. And I saw it now on the 2:02:42.040 --> 2:02:46.720 Food Channel last night for a car Halloween Magical Pumpkins, 2:02:47.120 --> 2:02:50.400 the Pumpkin Carving show on the Food Channel. I see it, 2:02:50.400 --> 2:02:54.040 and I go like, wait a minute, that looks like 2:02:54.120 --> 2:02:57.840 the Hallmark movie technique because they have the judges all 2:02:57.920 --> 2:03:00.720 dressed up in the suits and everything like that, but 2:03:00.760 --> 2:03:05.880 they weren't as they weren't as meticulous about the people 2:03:05.880 --> 2:03:08.320 who are carving their pumpkins. And I'm going like, wait 2:03:08.360 --> 2:03:11.200 a minute, that guy's in a T shirt. What and 2:03:11.280 --> 2:03:13.480 all the judges are in the heavy gloves and all 2:03:13.520 --> 2:03:15.600 this stuff. And then I'm saying, oh, and there's no 2:03:16.920 --> 2:03:20.280 you know, yeah, the suspiration of breath. You don't see it. 2:03:20.760 --> 2:03:24.160 You know in the Hallmark movies, even the extras they 2:03:24.200 --> 2:03:28.880 had to wear hat and it was amazing and everybody 2:03:28.880 --> 2:03:31.800 did it with joy and everybody. But it is something 2:03:31.880 --> 2:03:35.960 to watch, and this particular movie will be quite amusing, I. 2:03:35.920 --> 2:03:40.840 Think amazing hauling out the Hallie, Stephen, this is the dream. 2:03:41.760 --> 2:03:44.280 Thank you so much for talking to us. 2:03:44.600 --> 2:03:47.120 Well, well it's been a joy. It's been a pleasure. 2:03:47.320 --> 2:03:52.680 And uh and I thank you. Sigmund Freud, Yes, look 2:03:52.720 --> 2:03:54.080 it up, look him look him up. 2:03:58.200 --> 2:04:03.520 Yes, we really made it. I love him. I love 2:04:03.600 --> 2:04:07.000 him so much. Yeah, he was awesome. He seems like 2:04:07.280 --> 2:04:11.040 just like remembered a lot a lot. Yeah, you see 2:04:11.080 --> 2:04:13.879 him on a set and you'd be like, Tobalau skate, 2:04:14.120 --> 2:04:15.680 Like I feel like you'd be like, I'm having a 2:04:15.680 --> 2:04:18.280 good day now, you know, like he's a great stabler. 2:04:18.480 --> 2:04:21.400 Story of them like rehearsing is so cute. I just 2:04:21.480 --> 2:04:23.520 love it. I just really love it. All in a 2:04:23.560 --> 2:04:28.000 deserted Manhattan diner. I love that all right, our post 2:04:28.040 --> 2:04:29.640 mortem for Bull's Eye. 2:04:30.040 --> 2:04:33.160 No one is trying to help, So don't trust men 2:04:33.200 --> 2:04:34.160 that are trying to help. 2:04:34.240 --> 2:04:34.919 They are guilty. 2:04:35.400 --> 2:04:37.600 Yeah, they are trying to get away with something, or 2:04:37.640 --> 2:04:38.680 they're trying to kidnap you. 2:04:39.000 --> 2:04:42.600 Like this is Yeah, that's such a good point. It's like, yeah, 2:04:42.720 --> 2:04:45.720 the it's always like the person that's leading the anti 2:04:45.800 --> 2:04:48.920 whatever league is like into that thing, like we talked 2:04:48.960 --> 2:04:51.720 about it, but like you know Republicans that are like 2:04:52.000 --> 2:04:54.400 no the gay agenda and then they're like tapping a 2:04:54.440 --> 2:04:57.400 toe underneath the bathroom stall. Like it's always these fucking 2:04:57.440 --> 2:05:03.520 people hiding their own thing. And but also what a 2:05:03.520 --> 2:05:04.120 good lesson. 2:05:04.200 --> 2:05:07.000 Yeah, if someone doesn't want to fuck you, they're a pedophile. 2:05:07.880 --> 2:05:10.080 So that's good. No, if somebody doesn't want to fuck 2:05:10.080 --> 2:05:18.240 Olivia Benson, they're a pedophile. Yeah, truly yeah, I guess. 2:05:18.400 --> 2:05:20.120 Also I would. 2:05:19.800 --> 2:05:22.320 Say, oh, if someone says they're sister's dead, they're not. 2:05:22.440 --> 2:05:25.000 They're alive and they're hiding and they're in Delaware their 2:05:25.040 --> 2:05:28.960 sister that no one has said dead sister. 2:05:29.040 --> 2:05:32.160 They're all on the run. Person, they're on the run. 2:05:32.600 --> 2:05:35.680 But also from the beginning of the episode, like Jesus, 2:05:35.880 --> 2:05:38.320 chill out with the video games, like don't have a 2:05:38.600 --> 2:05:40.920 don't play a video game where you're raising a child 2:05:40.960 --> 2:05:44.839 while your daughter is eating pizza crusts underneath the stairs 2:05:44.960 --> 2:05:47.560 or whatever, like horrible, so sad. 2:05:47.760 --> 2:05:50.720 Yeah, I feel like this is a great Red Herring 2:05:51.840 --> 2:05:53.440 And I just thought of another one that I love. Oh, 2:05:53.480 --> 2:05:58.320 the Italian guy with the disease. Oh yes, like these 2:05:58.440 --> 2:06:02.760 specific disease. It's just like shows how amazing SVU is. 2:06:02.840 --> 2:06:06.000 But like, I love this Red Herring more than anything. 2:06:06.200 --> 2:06:10.120 Well, that's that cop gross delusion or whatever was so interesting. 2:06:10.280 --> 2:06:13.480 I mean, that is like a very interesting psychological problem 2:06:13.560 --> 2:06:16.440 to have that you think every you think people in 2:06:16.480 --> 2:06:21.000 your life have been replaced with impostors, like wild Do 2:06:21.040 --> 2:06:24.000 you think all the people that think that Avril Levine 2:06:24.000 --> 2:06:26.040 has been replaced by an impostor? Do you think they 2:06:26.080 --> 2:06:29.680 have that that they all have head injuries. They all 2:06:29.720 --> 2:06:31.280 have head capgrass delusion. 2:06:31.480 --> 2:06:34.839 Head injuries can change your personality, Like that is true, 2:06:34.880 --> 2:06:36.720 Like you can be a different person forever. 2:06:37.760 --> 2:06:40.160 But you know that theory, right, that Avril Levine's fans 2:06:40.160 --> 2:06:42.000 think that she died in a car accident or something 2:06:42.040 --> 2:06:46.680 and has been replaced by a double Yeah. Yeah, I 2:06:46.720 --> 2:06:48.360 didn't know about it. I don't think until I went 2:06:48.400 --> 2:06:51.440 on tom To Carr's podcast about and I did Avril Levine. 2:06:52.040 --> 2:06:54.360 I did the Avril Levine episode of that of Tommy 2:06:54.400 --> 2:06:56.560 Mack and their podcast. 2:06:57.000 --> 2:06:58.880 Yeah, it's a really good podcast if you guys want 2:06:58.880 --> 2:07:00.920 to listen to it, called by your Band. 2:07:01.480 --> 2:07:04.120 And I stood by Avril Levine, the real one and 2:07:04.640 --> 2:07:08.000 the impostor. I've been on a few times. Not to brag, 2:07:08.400 --> 2:07:12.840 but have you done I did Aqua? I think I 2:07:12.880 --> 2:07:13.880 did the Backstreet Boys. 2:07:13.920 --> 2:07:17.440 I did adjust like the Simpson one with with Julia, 2:07:17.800 --> 2:07:20.520 and then I recently did because then i've because I 2:07:20.600 --> 2:07:22.400 didn't maybe I've done the Backtory, but but I didn't 2:07:22.400 --> 2:07:25.240 want to submit certain people because I think they're great 2:07:25.240 --> 2:07:26.600 and I don't need to stand by them. But the 2:07:26.640 --> 2:07:28.280 last time I went on, I got to do Miley, 2:07:28.680 --> 2:07:29.960 even though she is great. 2:07:30.120 --> 2:07:32.800 But they let me do it and maybe I'll go 2:07:32.880 --> 2:07:35.680 back again. I'm oh, yeah, because you're supposed to do 2:07:35.800 --> 2:07:39.160 people that are like not huge, like my stand by 2:07:39.160 --> 2:07:40.800 your band. Yeah, you know, it's like people. 2:07:40.920 --> 2:07:42.960 It's like you want to defend people that people are 2:07:43.000 --> 2:07:46.680 like they suck out Dave Matthews band or something like Nickelback, 2:07:46.800 --> 2:07:47.320 et cetera. 2:07:47.760 --> 2:07:50.040 Yeah, I would go on and stand by Dave Matthew's band, 2:07:50.040 --> 2:07:53.240 but I had been done. Oh I'm sure you know me. 2:07:53.720 --> 2:07:56.280 You know, I'm like crash into me, baby, I did 2:07:56.320 --> 2:07:58.800 not know that I met. I'm sure it was done. 2:07:58.800 --> 2:08:01.120 I did not know you were a dm BE fanatic. Oh, 2:08:01.240 --> 2:08:03.960 not a fanatic, but I love I've listened to them 2:08:03.960 --> 2:08:05.720 when I was in you know, you just get attached 2:08:05.720 --> 2:08:08.040 to shit. You listened to it like when you were 2:08:08.440 --> 2:08:11.120 sixteen to nineteen. Like, I feel like that's a lot 2:08:11.160 --> 2:08:15.320 of what people are into musically, and so I liked it. Matthews. 2:08:15.360 --> 2:08:17.160 I don't know why they got this reputation for like 2:08:17.200 --> 2:08:19.200 being douche music. I think because some of the people 2:08:19.200 --> 2:08:21.640 that listen to it are douches. But I do like 2:08:21.680 --> 2:08:24.320 the music, you know, I haven't listened to. I haven't 2:08:24.320 --> 2:08:28.040 bought any new albums lately, but you know the classics. Anyway, 2:08:28.760 --> 2:08:31.360 how did we get here? In our post mortem? We're 2:08:31.360 --> 2:08:31.920 done and. 2:08:33.560 --> 2:08:35.960 I'm going to see Moona again, so stay tuned to 2:08:36.240 --> 2:08:39.960 a future episode to hear my review of concert number too. 2:08:40.520 --> 2:08:42.440 I can't wait. I can't wait now I want to 2:08:42.440 --> 2:08:45.960 go see them. But okay, let's get into what would 2:08:45.960 --> 2:08:49.440 Sister Peg do our weekly segment where we direct you 2:08:49.480 --> 2:08:53.680 to an organization, a book, an article, something to help 2:08:53.720 --> 2:08:55.120 flesh out a little bit of what we talked about 2:08:55.120 --> 2:08:58.080 on this week's episode. I didn't really think that there 2:08:58.200 --> 2:09:03.360 was much to be helped in the guy who pretends 2:09:03.440 --> 2:09:07.080 to be like a vigilante but really is a pedophile. 2:09:07.120 --> 2:09:09.560 So I decided to go with the real true crime 2:09:09.560 --> 2:09:11.840 that we based it on, And I'd like to point 2:09:11.880 --> 2:09:15.080 you guys to a website called Healthy Gamer dot gg. 2:09:15.640 --> 2:09:19.720 I don't know why gg is the dot com of 2:09:19.760 --> 2:09:22.120 it all, but there it is, and they have an 2:09:22.160 --> 2:09:23.680 article that I just wanted to point people to that's 2:09:23.680 --> 2:09:25.640 called what are the Signs of Video Game Addiction? I 2:09:25.680 --> 2:09:28.560 think we like laugh at this at this episode a 2:09:28.560 --> 2:09:31.320 little bit like, Wow, these crazy people are like neglecting 2:09:31.360 --> 2:09:34.200 their child. But I do think people can get into 2:09:34.440 --> 2:09:37.440 so into video games that it affects their life. So 2:09:37.480 --> 2:09:40.480 the site helps identify the common signs a video game addiction, 2:09:40.560 --> 2:09:42.280 as well as the differences between a habit and a 2:09:42.320 --> 2:09:45.360 full blown addiction. You can also find resources on that 2:09:45.400 --> 2:09:48.680 website to help you with the addiction and like getting 2:09:48.680 --> 2:09:50.560 paired with one of like a coach who can assist 2:09:50.600 --> 2:09:53.080 you in getting your life back. And the link to 2:09:53.160 --> 2:09:55.080 the article is in our show notes and will as 2:09:55.120 --> 2:09:59.240 always be in our Instagram stories the day the episode 2:09:59.280 --> 2:10:02.320 comes out, and then forever in our WWSPD highlight. 2:10:02.880 --> 2:10:05.440 Thank you so much, And next week we're going to 2:10:05.480 --> 2:10:09.280 be doing the episode harm season nine, episode five, so 2:10:09.480 --> 2:10:12.480 get with it, watch it, and we'll see you next week. 2:10:12.560 --> 2:10:20.520 Thanks so much. 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