1 00:00:00,400 --> 00:00:03,600 Speaker 1: Officials say they have already distributed three hundred and forty 2 00:00:03,600 --> 00:00:07,160 Speaker 1: four million dollars worth of assistance to victims of Hurricane 3 00:00:07,200 --> 00:00:10,880 Speaker 1: Helene in six states. FEMA has also shipped more than 4 00:00:10,960 --> 00:00:15,120 Speaker 1: seventeen million meals and nearly fourteen million liters of water 5 00:00:15,400 --> 00:00:19,040 Speaker 1: to the disaster area. As a result, FEMA is plowing 6 00:00:19,120 --> 00:00:23,079 Speaker 1: through its disaster relief budget and the Small Business Administration 7 00:00:23,320 --> 00:00:26,400 Speaker 1: could run out of money for low interest home rebuilding 8 00:00:26,440 --> 00:00:27,840 Speaker 1: loans by the end of the month. 9 00:00:28,040 --> 00:00:30,680 Speaker 2: Well, we're glad we're talking to somebody who's on the 10 00:00:30,760 --> 00:00:33,000 Speaker 2: ground in those areas, because it's hard to tell from 11 00:00:33,080 --> 00:00:36,960 Speaker 2: national stories how hurricane relief is actually going. We're talking 12 00:00:36,960 --> 00:00:42,120 Speaker 2: about the first big Hurricane Helene and specifically North Carolina. 13 00:00:42,280 --> 00:00:44,239 Speaker 3: And I think the attention being paid to what the 14 00:00:44,240 --> 00:00:46,319 Speaker 3: federal government is doing is fine and good, and they 15 00:00:46,400 --> 00:00:48,959 Speaker 3: certainly have a role, But as anybody who's lived through 16 00:00:48,960 --> 00:00:52,440 Speaker 3: this sort of thing knows, it's the state and then 17 00:00:52,560 --> 00:00:56,480 Speaker 3: local entities that provide a tremendous amount of the humanitarian 18 00:00:56,520 --> 00:00:59,440 Speaker 3: relief and the assistance when times are dark, which is 19 00:00:59,440 --> 00:01:01,760 Speaker 3: why we're held to raise money for the good folks 20 00:01:01,800 --> 00:01:04,399 Speaker 3: at the United Way of Ashville and Bunkcom County and 21 00:01:04,480 --> 00:01:07,920 Speaker 3: their president, CEO, Dan Leroy, joins us. Now, Dan, how 22 00:01:07,920 --> 00:01:08,400 Speaker 3: are you, sir? 23 00:01:09,760 --> 00:01:10,680 Speaker 4: I'm doing all right. 24 00:01:10,880 --> 00:01:12,160 Speaker 5: Thanks for having me today. 25 00:01:12,640 --> 00:01:15,680 Speaker 4: Busier than heck, I'm sure. Yeah. How are things in 26 00:01:15,720 --> 00:01:17,040 Speaker 4: your area at this point? 27 00:01:18,640 --> 00:01:23,240 Speaker 5: Well, things are still pretty crazy, still pretty dire. You know, 28 00:01:23,319 --> 00:01:26,840 Speaker 5: this hurricane hit us so much harder than we ever 29 00:01:26,920 --> 00:01:29,679 Speaker 5: could have imagined. And I'm sure your listeners have seen 30 00:01:29,760 --> 00:01:32,559 Speaker 5: all of the images and it is just as bad 31 00:01:32,600 --> 00:01:36,160 Speaker 5: as folks have seen it. It has just wiped out 32 00:01:36,560 --> 00:01:40,920 Speaker 5: infrastructure across our region and certainly here in Bunkcom County, 33 00:01:41,440 --> 00:01:45,640 Speaker 5: some of the smaller towns like Swannanoa, Barnardsville, Black Mountain. 34 00:01:46,840 --> 00:01:51,400 Speaker 5: We're just so hard hit that in many cases, you know, 35 00:01:51,440 --> 00:01:53,720 Speaker 5: whole neighborhoods are gone and having. 36 00:01:53,480 --> 00:01:54,560 Speaker 4: To be rebuilt. 37 00:01:55,160 --> 00:01:57,520 Speaker 5: And so the good news is a lot of our 38 00:01:57,560 --> 00:02:01,240 Speaker 5: infrastructure is starting to come back. A lot of folks 39 00:02:01,240 --> 00:02:06,200 Speaker 5: have power now. Dell service is pretty ubiquitous, which was 40 00:02:06,240 --> 00:02:08,960 Speaker 5: not the case even a week ago, and so that 41 00:02:09,080 --> 00:02:12,639 Speaker 5: helps a lot with communication. But in our county specifically, 42 00:02:13,000 --> 00:02:16,440 Speaker 5: the biggest problem that we have is water. The municipal 43 00:02:16,440 --> 00:02:21,920 Speaker 5: water system was basically wiped out, and we have what 44 00:02:21,960 --> 00:02:25,239 Speaker 5: I would describe as a heroic effort not just by 45 00:02:25,280 --> 00:02:29,320 Speaker 5: our Public Worse Department, but by partners from across the 46 00:02:29,360 --> 00:02:31,920 Speaker 5: Southeast that have come into support and rebuilding this because 47 00:02:31,919 --> 00:02:34,920 Speaker 5: it's so critical for our business community, it's critical for 48 00:02:35,000 --> 00:02:38,040 Speaker 5: our schools, and you know, you can't do anything without 49 00:02:38,080 --> 00:02:40,720 Speaker 5: running rod. So that's the biggest issue for us right now. 50 00:02:41,360 --> 00:02:43,840 Speaker 2: So before we get into some of the relief stuff, 51 00:02:45,160 --> 00:02:47,639 Speaker 2: Joe and I worked in North Carolina for a couple 52 00:02:47,639 --> 00:02:50,799 Speaker 2: of years, and I was foot loose and fancy free 53 00:02:50,840 --> 00:02:52,400 Speaker 2: and single and chadless. So I did a lot of 54 00:02:52,400 --> 00:02:54,799 Speaker 2: travel on North Carolina, spent a lot of time Nashville area. 55 00:02:54,800 --> 00:02:55,760 Speaker 4: I really really enjoyed it. 56 00:02:55,800 --> 00:02:59,160 Speaker 2: But was he even on your mind most of you 57 00:02:59,240 --> 00:03:01,400 Speaker 2: around there, that this hurricane was going to be a 58 00:03:01,400 --> 00:03:04,480 Speaker 2: big deal? At what point did you realize holy crap. 59 00:03:06,080 --> 00:03:07,880 Speaker 5: Yeah, you know it. 60 00:03:08,200 --> 00:03:08,600 Speaker 4: I'll tell you. 61 00:03:09,360 --> 00:03:11,720 Speaker 5: One of the things that we have thought about ourselves 62 00:03:11,800 --> 00:03:14,720 Speaker 5: and talked to other folks about ourselves here in western 63 00:03:14,760 --> 00:03:18,320 Speaker 5: North Carolina is just how resilient this area is and 64 00:03:18,520 --> 00:03:22,320 Speaker 5: and sort of the kinds of natural disasters that were 65 00:03:22,400 --> 00:03:24,520 Speaker 5: used to thinking about, whether it's the you know, the 66 00:03:24,560 --> 00:03:27,280 Speaker 5: big fires that they have out west or you know 67 00:03:27,320 --> 00:03:30,440 Speaker 5: the huge hurricanes that you see on the coastlines, or 68 00:03:30,840 --> 00:03:33,120 Speaker 5: even the you know, the tornadoes that you see in 69 00:03:33,120 --> 00:03:37,160 Speaker 5: the Midwest. We've been pretty well insulated from all that 70 00:03:37,320 --> 00:03:41,000 Speaker 5: for a long time. And so this storm was truly 71 00:03:41,080 --> 00:03:45,240 Speaker 5: unique in that we got thirteen inches of rain that 72 00:03:45,440 --> 00:03:49,640 Speaker 5: you know that two days before the hurricane even came 73 00:03:49,680 --> 00:03:53,920 Speaker 5: this way in a single day, right, And so it 74 00:03:53,960 --> 00:03:58,160 Speaker 5: was a very unusual weather pattern that basically soaked every 75 00:03:58,360 --> 00:04:01,440 Speaker 5: we had. We had flooding, you know, like you wouldn't 76 00:04:01,480 --> 00:04:05,280 Speaker 5: see for you know, in the last decade before the 77 00:04:05,360 --> 00:04:08,760 Speaker 5: hurricane hits. Oh, and so that was really what made 78 00:04:08,760 --> 00:04:13,000 Speaker 5: it so unique. And so no, we were not I 79 00:04:13,040 --> 00:04:16,520 Speaker 5: don't think anyone could have imagined the level of impact 80 00:04:16,560 --> 00:04:19,400 Speaker 5: here because it's such an unusual weather event. 81 00:04:20,160 --> 00:04:22,800 Speaker 2: And then a quick one before we move on, how 82 00:04:22,839 --> 00:04:25,640 Speaker 2: long will we all without self service? So all this happens, 83 00:04:26,360 --> 00:04:27,960 Speaker 2: it wasn't even on your mind all of a sudden, 84 00:04:27,960 --> 00:04:30,679 Speaker 2: things are just devastated, homes are gone and roads are covered, 85 00:04:30,680 --> 00:04:33,039 Speaker 2: and wondering how long were you without self service? You 86 00:04:33,040 --> 00:04:35,200 Speaker 2: couldn't even talk to anybody. 87 00:04:35,400 --> 00:04:38,599 Speaker 5: Well, it's you know, to sort of answer your first 88 00:04:38,680 --> 00:04:42,760 Speaker 5: question from before, I think it was probably Tuesday that 89 00:04:43,480 --> 00:04:47,640 Speaker 5: the tuesday before the hurricane hit on Friday morning, essentially 90 00:04:48,080 --> 00:04:50,880 Speaker 5: where folks were starting to kind of look around at 91 00:04:50,880 --> 00:04:54,080 Speaker 5: the radar and say, Okay, this could be a big problem, 92 00:04:55,400 --> 00:04:59,480 Speaker 5: and so you know, and to just give you an idea, 93 00:04:59,600 --> 00:05:02,599 Speaker 5: I was actually got a conference in Salt Lake City, 94 00:05:02,720 --> 00:05:05,800 Speaker 5: so I was not on the ground. So I had 95 00:05:05,839 --> 00:05:09,000 Speaker 5: information that nobody in our community, and certainly none of 96 00:05:09,080 --> 00:05:12,480 Speaker 5: my colleagues or teammates or partners had because they couldn't 97 00:05:12,480 --> 00:05:14,680 Speaker 5: talk to each other really for about two days. 98 00:05:15,000 --> 00:05:16,200 Speaker 2: If you were part. 99 00:05:15,960 --> 00:05:19,240 Speaker 5: Of some kind of emergency response operations, they were able 100 00:05:19,279 --> 00:05:22,719 Speaker 5: to stand up in different places, access to self service 101 00:05:22,800 --> 00:05:24,720 Speaker 5: and Wi Fi and those kinds of things. But for 102 00:05:24,760 --> 00:05:27,400 Speaker 5: the first couple of days, I couldn't even talk to 103 00:05:27,520 --> 00:05:29,480 Speaker 5: my family who was in town to make sure that 104 00:05:29,520 --> 00:05:33,560 Speaker 5: the folks here in our house and everything else was okay. 105 00:05:33,360 --> 00:05:36,320 Speaker 5: So it was pretty much like in the dark for 106 00:05:36,400 --> 00:05:38,800 Speaker 5: most people within the affected region. And for about forty 107 00:05:38,839 --> 00:05:39,360 Speaker 5: eight hours. 108 00:05:39,480 --> 00:05:43,159 Speaker 3: Wow, And then you were talking about the catastrophic damage 109 00:05:43,200 --> 00:05:46,480 Speaker 3: to the water treatment system. It could be weeks before 110 00:05:46,480 --> 00:05:48,719 Speaker 3: there's running water correct or even longer. 111 00:05:49,880 --> 00:05:53,360 Speaker 5: Yeah, And it's not the treatment system, it's the distribution system, okay, 112 00:05:54,120 --> 00:05:56,880 Speaker 5: and so they have, like I said, they have been 113 00:05:56,920 --> 00:06:02,000 Speaker 5: able to get the mainline inter recon which is pretty incredible, 114 00:06:02,960 --> 00:06:04,839 Speaker 5: but there's a lot of time that it's going to 115 00:06:04,880 --> 00:06:08,320 Speaker 5: take to actually work through the entire system. They say 116 00:06:08,360 --> 00:06:12,360 Speaker 5: that the linear feat of our water system here is 117 00:06:12,520 --> 00:06:15,880 Speaker 5: the equivalent of the distance between here and Miami and back, 118 00:06:16,480 --> 00:06:18,400 Speaker 5: So you can imagine it's a lot of line that 119 00:06:18,480 --> 00:06:21,000 Speaker 5: needs to be cleared out. And so they aren't giving 120 00:06:21,080 --> 00:06:24,520 Speaker 5: us estimates, but you know, it's interesting. We do a 121 00:06:24,560 --> 00:06:27,160 Speaker 5: lot of work in partnership with our schools, and you. 122 00:06:27,120 --> 00:06:28,719 Speaker 4: Know, we have we have schools. 123 00:06:28,440 --> 00:06:31,760 Speaker 5: That are drilling wells right now in their in their 124 00:06:31,760 --> 00:06:35,000 Speaker 5: ball fields because they want to make sure not just 125 00:06:35,040 --> 00:06:38,120 Speaker 5: for this getting water back, but in the future because 126 00:06:38,360 --> 00:06:41,560 Speaker 5: obviously it's everything. So we don't have a clear estimate 127 00:06:41,600 --> 00:06:43,919 Speaker 5: for when it could be back, but it's definitely in 128 00:06:43,960 --> 00:06:46,000 Speaker 5: the order of weeks and not in the order of days. 129 00:06:46,839 --> 00:06:48,920 Speaker 3: So for what it's worth for folks who haven't been there, 130 00:06:49,520 --> 00:06:52,080 Speaker 3: you know. And I spent a week in Ashville slash 131 00:06:52,080 --> 00:06:55,240 Speaker 3: Waynesville does past July. I have family there and I 132 00:06:55,600 --> 00:06:56,120 Speaker 3: love the area. 133 00:06:56,120 --> 00:06:56,799 Speaker 4: It's not only. 134 00:06:56,640 --> 00:07:00,360 Speaker 3: Beautiful geographically, but it's just so interesting because you have, 135 00:07:00,680 --> 00:07:05,320 Speaker 3: you know, conservative retirees and kind of your traditional we've 136 00:07:05,320 --> 00:07:08,479 Speaker 3: lived in the mountains for generations conservatism. You've got tattooed 137 00:07:08,560 --> 00:07:11,640 Speaker 3: and pierced waitresses and artists and just the most amazing 138 00:07:11,720 --> 00:07:15,120 Speaker 3: mix of people in that area. And it's fun and funky, 139 00:07:15,160 --> 00:07:19,120 Speaker 3: and it's very very American, and it's just the devastation 140 00:07:19,240 --> 00:07:22,560 Speaker 3: is astounding. So anyway, if folks listening get a chance, 141 00:07:22,600 --> 00:07:24,360 Speaker 3: if you can spare a couple of bucks or more, 142 00:07:24,440 --> 00:07:26,520 Speaker 3: go to Armstrong and Getty dot com. The banner is 143 00:07:26,640 --> 00:07:29,120 Speaker 3: you can't miss it. Donate what you can to help 144 00:07:29,160 --> 00:07:31,920 Speaker 3: out your fellow Americans, and. 145 00:07:31,840 --> 00:07:34,360 Speaker 4: It's going directly to you. What can that money do 146 00:07:34,520 --> 00:07:34,720 Speaker 4: for you? 147 00:07:34,720 --> 00:07:36,440 Speaker 2: If we can get our listeners to throw a couple 148 00:07:36,440 --> 00:07:38,000 Speaker 2: of bucks your way and you get a pile of money, 149 00:07:38,200 --> 00:07:41,240 Speaker 2: what can you do with that short term? Sure thing? 150 00:07:41,360 --> 00:07:43,560 Speaker 5: Yeah, And I just want to echo what you just 151 00:07:43,600 --> 00:07:47,480 Speaker 5: said in terms of the incredible diversity of our communities here. 152 00:07:47,520 --> 00:07:49,640 Speaker 5: And what's been so beautiful to watch is the way 153 00:07:49,680 --> 00:07:52,160 Speaker 5: that you know, those barriers have been broken down and 154 00:07:52,200 --> 00:07:57,280 Speaker 5: we have people just working together, neighbors helping neighbors, organizations 155 00:07:57,280 --> 00:08:00,360 Speaker 5: to meet organizations helping, you know, whoever is out there 156 00:08:00,360 --> 00:08:03,040 Speaker 5: in their community without regard to any of that affiliation. 157 00:08:03,240 --> 00:08:08,160 Speaker 5: So that's been beautiful. Our focus really is right now. 158 00:08:08,600 --> 00:08:12,800 Speaker 5: We are recruiting thousands of volunteers and working with our 159 00:08:12,920 --> 00:08:16,920 Speaker 5: community organization partners to identify where are the volunteers most 160 00:08:17,000 --> 00:08:19,520 Speaker 5: needed and being able to connect those volunteers to those 161 00:08:19,680 --> 00:08:23,040 Speaker 5: organizations doing the work on the ground. We also have 162 00:08:23,200 --> 00:08:27,680 Speaker 5: created a disaster relief fund which will go to these 163 00:08:27,960 --> 00:08:34,119 Speaker 5: community organizations who are directly impacted by the hurricane itself. 164 00:08:35,240 --> 00:08:36,040 Speaker 4: And the other thing that. 165 00:08:36,000 --> 00:08:38,440 Speaker 5: We're doing that this would support is that we're working 166 00:08:38,440 --> 00:08:41,680 Speaker 5: really closely with our partners at the City of Asheville 167 00:08:41,720 --> 00:08:45,920 Speaker 5: and Bunco County to help coordinate the thousands of tons 168 00:08:45,920 --> 00:08:48,920 Speaker 5: of supplies that are coming into our region through these 169 00:08:48,960 --> 00:08:52,480 Speaker 5: donations and to make sure that they are a safe 170 00:08:52,480 --> 00:08:54,720 Speaker 5: place to go to be sorted, and then to get 171 00:08:54,720 --> 00:08:57,880 Speaker 5: out the door to our community partners who are most 172 00:08:58,000 --> 00:09:01,559 Speaker 5: proximate to the neighborhoods, you know, the folks that were 173 00:09:01,600 --> 00:09:03,040 Speaker 5: most impacted by the storm. 174 00:09:04,360 --> 00:09:07,040 Speaker 3: Dan Leroy of the United Way of Ashville, Bunkom County, 175 00:09:07,040 --> 00:09:10,079 Speaker 3: you guys are doing what is so sorely needed when 176 00:09:10,120 --> 00:09:13,400 Speaker 3: it's most needed, and you're all heroes. Keep at it. 177 00:09:13,480 --> 00:09:16,079 Speaker 3: We'll see what we can raise for y'all, and good luck. 178 00:09:16,120 --> 00:09:16,760 Speaker 3: We're thinking of you. 179 00:09:18,280 --> 00:09:20,480 Speaker 5: Well, thank you for shigning a spotlight on this. It's 180 00:09:20,520 --> 00:09:22,280 Speaker 5: going to be a need for a really long time, 181 00:09:22,400 --> 00:09:24,040 Speaker 5: so all the support that we can get from your 182 00:09:24,040 --> 00:09:25,600 Speaker 5: listeners is very much appreciated. 183 00:09:25,800 --> 00:09:28,559 Speaker 4: Excellent point, you got it. Thanks Dan, great to talk 184 00:09:28,600 --> 00:09:29,080 Speaker 4: to you. 185 00:09:29,200 --> 00:09:32,320 Speaker 2: Yeah, that's going to be a problem for a while obviously, 186 00:09:32,360 --> 00:09:34,440 Speaker 2: and they'll run out of money quick if they don't 187 00:09:34,480 --> 00:09:37,280 Speaker 2: have a big parliament. And if you're the sort of 188 00:09:37,280 --> 00:09:42,680 Speaker 2: person listening to the show, you probably believe in local, small, 189 00:09:43,160 --> 00:09:47,520 Speaker 2: over giant far away, and this is a way to 190 00:09:47,520 --> 00:09:49,840 Speaker 2: get money, like to the source or where they're actually 191 00:09:49,920 --> 00:09:53,200 Speaker 2: you know, the people getting the money or their families 192 00:09:53,200 --> 00:09:57,040 Speaker 2: are dealing with this, as opposed to bureaucrats somewhere far 193 00:09:57,080 --> 00:09:59,080 Speaker 2: away who lives are comfortable and they don't really care 194 00:10:00,200 --> 00:10:03,960 Speaker 2: right exactly. This goes directly to the need and the 195 00:10:04,080 --> 00:10:09,920 Speaker 2: number of news pieces I've seen on how many people's 196 00:10:10,000 --> 00:10:15,079 Speaker 2: insurance doesn't cover this for all kinds of different complicated reasons, 197 00:10:15,200 --> 00:10:19,640 Speaker 2: like well, you had flood insurance, but flood insurance caused 198 00:10:19,640 --> 00:10:22,079 Speaker 2: by a river rising, not by a hurricane, so sorry, 199 00:10:22,080 --> 00:10:25,840 Speaker 2: it doesn't count. Or you just all kinds of different caveats, right, 200 00:10:25,920 --> 00:10:27,520 Speaker 2: and then you got to get into the lawyers. Well 201 00:10:27,520 --> 00:10:30,520 Speaker 2: it rained thirteen inches two days before. Well we think 202 00:10:30,559 --> 00:10:32,680 Speaker 2: it was the hurricane. So it's a nightmare. But before 203 00:10:32,720 --> 00:10:35,960 Speaker 2: you even get there, the roads are gone. It's not 204 00:10:36,000 --> 00:10:39,440 Speaker 2: that they're flooded, they're gone. The bridges are gone, the 205 00:10:39,640 --> 00:10:41,880 Speaker 2: water distribution system doesn't work. 206 00:10:41,920 --> 00:10:42,760 Speaker 4: And what for weeks? 207 00:10:43,360 --> 00:10:47,920 Speaker 3: I mean it's like civilization, modernity was blotted out for 208 00:10:47,960 --> 00:10:50,400 Speaker 3: a huge swath of you know, one of our most 209 00:10:50,400 --> 00:10:51,400 Speaker 3: populated states. 210 00:10:51,480 --> 00:10:54,360 Speaker 2: Yeah, as I saw one guy say, the houses aren't 211 00:10:54,360 --> 00:10:57,400 Speaker 2: are gone, but so's the land the houses used to 212 00:10:57,440 --> 00:10:59,960 Speaker 2: sit on. So you can't build a house there again 213 00:11:00,040 --> 00:11:04,000 Speaker 2: in Sohi, what does insurance do for replacing your house 214 00:11:04,080 --> 00:11:08,080 Speaker 2: that you would have to get somewhere else or bring 215 00:11:08,080 --> 00:11:10,120 Speaker 2: in two hundred truckloads a dirt time. 216 00:11:10,240 --> 00:11:12,920 Speaker 4: I have no idea, No anyway, give what you can. 217 00:11:13,040 --> 00:11:16,280 Speaker 3: Armstrong e getty dot com, Armstrong and