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Speaker 2: Yeomens and for the second straight week, we also have
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Speaker 2: Emmy Award winning Wow Nick Harris for the first time.
Speaker 4: Congratulations, many thank you, fellows. I am rest amen. God's
Speaker 4: good shout out to everybody here that that had a
Speaker 4: role in this We won the Emmy last night for
Speaker 4: Best Sports Documentary for the Deep Blue that we did
Speaker 4: on Marion Barber. That was myself, Ambar Garcia, Caden Gates,
Speaker 4: Alex Lily. Shout out to Derek and Nick for allowing
Speaker 4: me to, you know, be a part of that big project.
Speaker 4: It was so rewarding and glad we got to finish
Speaker 4: it off the right way last night. Congrats man, Thank
Speaker 4: you guys. I appreciate you all.
Speaker 2: And this is your first Emmy win. It is so
Speaker 2: that one's always a little bit special, especially for those
Speaker 2: that don't know. When you get to go to the
Speaker 2: award show, get to dress up. You looked great last
Speaker 2: night in the blue suit. Thank you.
Speaker 1: Man.
Speaker 4: Let me tell you I have this. We got to
Speaker 4: get in that.
Speaker 5: You know.
Speaker 4: The great thing about Schottenheimer having afternoon availability this year
Speaker 4: morning Jim, Jim, I like it.
Speaker 2: Jim, I like it unless you're on Talking Cowboys and
Speaker 2: then you get exactly exactly get work to do. But
Speaker 2: but no, I was super happy for you last night.
Speaker 2: We were watching from home, and I was happy that
Speaker 2: you were in the building for it one because when
Speaker 2: you win your first one, being in the building is
Speaker 2: the best part could you get to celebrate with all
Speaker 2: the people there and you get to have some fun,
Speaker 2: make your little speech. You did a great job on
Speaker 2: the speech too, talking about awareness around you and ask
Speaker 2: other people if they're doing okay and that sort of thing.
Speaker 2: So it really did resonate with the whole mindset around
Speaker 2: the documentary, which is phenomenal by the way, and available
Speaker 2: on YouTube and the Dallas Cowboys now app too, and
Speaker 2: Dallas Cowboys dot com and Dallas Cowboys dot Comy.
Speaker 4: Yeah, if I watch it, if everybody listening has one
Speaker 4: person in their live friend or family member that you
Speaker 4: haven't talked to in a long time, and you know,
Speaker 4: whether you'll had beef or you didn't have beef, whatever,
Speaker 4: you'll just kind of fell out, whatever it is, reach
Speaker 4: out to that person, that person's on your mind.
Speaker 6: Do it.
Speaker 4: One of you might just save a life.
Speaker 2: So absolutely congrats Nick, thanks for really well earned, well earned,
Speaker 2: and Josh is on his way with the Wall two
Speaker 2: point zero documentary that they made.
Speaker 4: Yeah, we're gonna be rubbing that. It's gonna be good times. Yeah, man,
Speaker 4: I'm very excited about that. It's out.
Speaker 7: It's doing really well.
Speaker 2: Fit a lot of thousand views on YouTube.
Speaker 8: Fifty thousand views so far, and it just goes to
Speaker 8: show how much of the people love those guys in particular.
Speaker 7: And I know a lot of the comments are like,
Speaker 7: these guys didn't win anything, you know what I mean.
Speaker 7: But it's like they won a lot of games and
Speaker 7: they did their part, and you know.
Speaker 8: Are we supposed to not acknowledge you know, cowboys that
Speaker 8: have done great for the organization, you know, like just
Speaker 8: guys that you model your you should be modeling your
Speaker 8: game after so and same ghost from Marion Barber too.
Speaker 8: It's it's a guy that people love and respect and
Speaker 8: had a lot of admiration for. So just just shine
Speaker 8: a light on those guys. We haven't won a super
Speaker 8: Bowl in thirty years, so it's you have these stories
Speaker 8: that still need to be told regardless.
Speaker 2: Absolutely, And we also got to mention he's not here today.
Speaker 2: He's on Good Morning Football because he's big time and
Speaker 2: he's doing stuff. But Isaiah one Tommy's last night, he
Speaker 2: cleaned up on both of his categories and got them
Speaker 2: both the in studio both fucking game analyst, I mean
Speaker 2: literally the best analyst in the game right now, and
Speaker 2: he's on our podcast most.
Speaker 7: But in Dallas Cowboys dot Com on his back.
Speaker 2: Yeah, most carrying it yesterday, but no lots of fun
Speaker 2: at the Emmys. Congratulations to all those on the team
Speaker 2: who won. We've got some work to get back to, though,
Speaker 2: and that's what it really is about. It's the regular season.
Speaker 2: But it is the regular season. Cowboys starting up man
Speaker 2: finish their preseason at one and two. They got to
Speaker 2: win to ended out thirty one to thirteen, the final
Speaker 2: score over the Atlanta Falcons. Before we get into roster
Speaker 2: cutdown day, that's coming up very quickly in the show,
Speaker 2: and we've got plenty to talk about there. What were
Speaker 2: your initial reactions, Josh, to the game on Friday and
Speaker 2: the step forward that it seemingly took from the Cowboys side.
Speaker 8: It was the first time because Schottenheimer has been preaching
Speaker 8: physicality since he took over, this is the first time
Speaker 8: I've seen the Dallas Cowboys be a physical team, more
Speaker 8: physical than the opposing team since the Bucks game last year.
Speaker 8: And that was like in the twilight of last season
Speaker 8: when things were looking up and it's like, all right,
Speaker 8: you got a chance, and then they had a great
Speaker 8: game against Sampa Bay and then it all came crashing
Speaker 8: down after that when you realize that your depth just
Speaker 8: wasn't there.
Speaker 7: And you've kind of seen that same thing.
Speaker 8: You know, like this team has felt kind of broken
Speaker 8: in a lot of ways since the Green Bay playoff loss,
Speaker 8: and you just kind of see a sluggishness at times.
Speaker 8: You did not see that on on Friday. It was
Speaker 8: It's such a weird game to have on a Friday night,
Speaker 8: but but it is amazing to see a team that
Speaker 8: is actually doing what coach Schottenheimer's talking about has been
Speaker 8: preaching about. Granted, you're going up against third string second strings.
Speaker 8: I don't care, man, It's just nice to see the
Speaker 8: oas Cowboys being physical.
Speaker 4: Yeah, absolutely, I agree with you, And especially in the trenches.
Speaker 4: I think there were some really good things to pull
Speaker 4: away from there, just because there have been a little lapses,
Speaker 4: especially with like young guys. But I think overall it
Speaker 4: was really good to see, you know, some of those
Speaker 4: young guys come alive, whether that be like a Augenie
Speaker 4: Cornelius or you know, even looking deeper into the depth
Speaker 4: James Houston on the defensive side of the ball, which
Speaker 4: we're gonna talk about cut down to here, and yeah,
Speaker 4: that's gonna be a fastest conversation one, but there's a
Speaker 4: It was really good to see those things. And then
Speaker 4: the receiver battle that last spot at receiver. It was
Speaker 4: really interesting to see Jalen Brooks and Ryan Flinoy have
Speaker 4: the knights that they did, because man, that's gonna be
Speaker 4: if it were me. And when I did my fifty
Speaker 4: three man projection yesterday, that was probably the second hardest
Speaker 4: decision I had to make, was between one of those guys.
Speaker 4: So really fascinating stuff on Friday night, and it was
Speaker 4: good to see this team finally gonna win under their belt.
Speaker 2: It was you could tell in the locker room afterwards,
Speaker 2: Brian Schottenheimer saying, this is what winning should feel like.
Speaker 2: They had a little celebration. It was a preseason win, but.
Speaker 4: It was pulled the moneyball.
Speaker 7: That was kind of that's a winning field, that's.
Speaker 2: What that's what it should feel like. The whole scenario
Speaker 2: felt like it was a practice for how they are
Speaker 2: going to win in the future. You know, when they
Speaker 2: went in the locker room, They're like, we're going to
Speaker 2: establish this now. I'm a first year head coach. I
Speaker 2: want to make it feel like it's a party in
Speaker 2: the locker room, even if it's a preseason game, because
Speaker 2: that's what it should feel like. Winning should feel good,
Speaker 2: and that clips on Dallas Cowboys social channels now. But
Speaker 2: I did like that. I liked some of the individual
Speaker 2: performances we had. Perry On Winfrey I thought a great game. Uh,
Speaker 2: he was great on the interior for the majority of
Speaker 2: that the four quarters. I thought the first half the
Speaker 2: run defense was very impressive. They allowed just one point
Speaker 2: six yards per carry through the first two quarters, ten
Speaker 2: carries for sixteen yards. On the I think it was
Speaker 2: I don't even know if that's the math. Is that
Speaker 2: the right math? Yeah? One point six? Yeah, okay, so
Speaker 2: ten carries for sixteen yards. Yeah, I know it's early.
Speaker 2: The U Yeah, I'm bad at multiplying. Actually I've got triplets.
Speaker 2: But anyways, the commers, yeah right. The conversation then turns
Speaker 2: to the backup quarterback scenario. Did Joe Milton play well
Speaker 2: enough for you to have any sort of sort of
Speaker 2: hope going forward? I don't think it changes much for
Speaker 2: me in that whole conversation, But did it change anything
Speaker 2: for you the way he played?
Speaker 4: I think some optimism that you can pull out of
Speaker 4: that is I think they figured out how to get
Speaker 4: him off to a good start. Yes, if Joe Milton
Speaker 4: has a good start, then you start to see the
Speaker 4: consistency build up a little bit. I think you talked
Speaker 4: to him after the game in the locker room during
Speaker 4: those two losses where he had rough starts. He always
Speaker 4: mentions it, it's like rough start, rough start, And then
Speaker 4: set and Harry were like, yeah, wish we didn't have
Speaker 4: the rough start. And so you really liked those good
Speaker 4: first quarters out of guys. Joe Milton certainly had it.
Speaker 4: They started off with fourteen points in that first frame,
Speaker 4: and it really allowed him to settle in a lot
Speaker 4: quicker than he did in those first two games, so
Speaker 4: much so that they pulled it with nine minutes left
Speaker 4: in the third quarter. They're like, all right, we've seen
Speaker 4: what we need to see. But I liked how he
Speaker 4: used his legs that fourth and one read option scamper,
Speaker 4: where he was able to get away and Princeton fan
Speaker 4: was leading the way downfield, very physically leading the way downfield.
Speaker 4: That was really good to see. And then you know
Speaker 4: he was able to his footwork. He was a little
Speaker 4: bit cleaner. It's gonna take time with Joe Milton. That footwork,
Speaker 4: those footwork issues take years to develop. And I think
Speaker 4: something to also keep in mind with Joe Milton is
Speaker 4: we're starting to see a lot of these Tennessee quarterbacks
Speaker 4: not pan out here in the NFL. Hendon Hooker got
Speaker 4: released by the Lions yesterday, And you know, I'm not
Speaker 4: gonna sit here and say that like the system is
Speaker 4: bad going into the league, but I think one thing
Speaker 4: to keep in mind is maybe Joe Milton didn't get
Speaker 4: the development at the college level that some of these
Speaker 4: other guys have had, and so you know, if they
Speaker 4: were able to do that within this year and Dak
Speaker 4: Prescott's can stay healthy for seventeen games, then I really
Speaker 4: do think Joe Milton this time next year could be
Speaker 4: ready to step into that backup role with optimism. As
Speaker 4: of right now, I still don't have a lot of optimism.
Speaker 4: If he needed to play a three four game stretch
Speaker 4: this year, you would really be holding your breath as
Speaker 4: a Cowboys fan. But I think if he can sit
Speaker 4: and learn and Prescott can stay healthy this year, then
Speaker 4: it's gonna be beneficial for this team.
Speaker 2: Absolutely.
Speaker 8: I know you're talking about getting him off to a
Speaker 8: good start. Let's hope he doesn't have any starts this year.
Speaker 4: Let's just start there.
Speaker 8: Seventeen for seventeen, will and you know, make it happy
Speaker 8: and all the respect in the world to him, because
Speaker 8: I thought he had a great game. I thought he
Speaker 8: was playing comfortably. It was very much like I mean,
Speaker 8: he didn't like that the scoreboard or anything. I'm not
Speaker 8: trying to say excellent game. Yeah it was ten for
Speaker 8: eighteen or whatever, but I just mean it looked like
Speaker 8: he was playing football and not the mind games that
Speaker 8: he's play been playing.
Speaker 7: With for the last two weeks.
Speaker 8: It just felt like he was comfortable playing football. And
Speaker 8: case in point was that very first drive when we
Speaker 8: go down the field and he just kind of scampers
Speaker 8: in for a quick touchdown. It was not about him
Speaker 8: going through every single read. It was like, Okay, this
Speaker 8: read is not there. I'm just gonna take the easy win.
Speaker 8: I'm going to get the score. It felt like that
Speaker 8: throughout the game, where he was just making really not
Speaker 8: conservative decisions, but the right decision.
Speaker 2: Yeah. I hope this is the last conversation we have
Speaker 2: on Joe Milton in a long time because of that,
Speaker 2: you know, because it's dack All the way through the
Speaker 2: regular season.
Speaker 7: Why an't we just talking about how he's doing what
Speaker 7: he doing?
Speaker 4: Man?
Speaker 2: I mean we could, yeah, we get ask him how
Speaker 2: he's yeah, you know, just like check up on him
Speaker 2: and sure he's good. But I hope this is the
Speaker 2: last backup quarterback conversation we have. I hope it's been
Speaker 2: the entire preseason. I know people who out there are
Speaker 2: tired of it. We have to talk about it though,
Speaker 2: kind of like what we outlined in the last show
Speaker 2: is because it has been a topic of conversation these
Speaker 2: last couple of years. Hopefully after this it's over.
Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, yeah, We're good.
Speaker 2: Dak is doing his thing, he's playing, this is his offense,
Speaker 2: his team, let's go.
Speaker 4: I would say if a year like twenty twenty three
Speaker 4: for Dak Prescott were to happen again, sure, that would
Speaker 4: be so great for Joe Milton for multiple reasons, not
Speaker 4: only in the sense that he doesn't have to start
Speaker 4: a game, but you think about all those fourth quarters
Speaker 4: that Cooper Rush had to play that year. If Joe
Speaker 4: Milton can just get in games and reps, get snaps,
Speaker 4: I mean, that would be huge for him too. But yeah,
Speaker 4: I'm with you, I'm with you.
Speaker 2: Kayle Well, and you know it's funny you say it
Speaker 2: that way. I thought one of the best things that
Speaker 2: could have happened in the preseason this year for Will
Speaker 2: Greer was Joe Milton to play well, because if you
Speaker 2: think about it, yeah, everybody's like, oh, Will Greer was
Speaker 2: in a competition for that QB two battle. I don't
Speaker 2: think that was ever really the case for this coaching staft.
Speaker 8: As soon as I was traded for Joe Milton, they
Speaker 8: it was confirmation by us the entire time.
Speaker 2: He's not going anywhere now. He Even if Joe Milton
Speaker 2: loses the quarterback two spot, it's not going to be
Speaker 2: the Will Greed. It's going to be the mister outside
Speaker 2: higher and another opportun opportunistic veteran that can come in
Speaker 2: and play immediately. Will Greer was never going to be
Speaker 2: the number two quarterback on this roster, but he could
Speaker 2: have been the number three quarterback.
Speaker 7: Hey, which one of these quarterbacks has the Superowl ring?
Speaker 2: It is Will Gear But that being said, just for
Speaker 2: a split second in Philly. For all of that being said,
Speaker 2: Will Greer did his job throughout the the off season
Speaker 2: and throughout the preseason, showed that, hey, he still belongs
Speaker 2: in an NFL camp somewhere, but he was never going
Speaker 2: to be the QB too. It is just part of it.
Speaker 2: And I think if Will Greer were to get booted
Speaker 2: off of this roster, Joe Milton's still on the roster
Speaker 2: because they've invested in him, They're going to allow him
Speaker 2: to grow, they would boot Will Greer to bring in
Speaker 2: somebody else to try and be that that backup quarterback.
Speaker 2: Hopefully that's not the case. Maybe it is. Maybe they
Speaker 2: find somebody that they bring in and Will Gear can
Speaker 2: fit on this team. So where, But it's a lot
Speaker 2: of times for backup quarterbacks the best thing for them
Speaker 2: is for the guy in front of them to remain successful.
Speaker 2: It's to your point with Dak and Joe Milton roster cutdowns,
Speaker 2: they're here, some of them are. Anyways. Yeah, let's let's
Speaker 2: go through some of the names that have been reported
Speaker 2: and released as the Cowboys start their their trek toward
Speaker 2: the fifty three man roster. Here are the names that
Speaker 2: are on Dallas Cowboys dot com right now, released and
Speaker 2: waved by the By the way, there is a difference,
Speaker 2: we can go through that in a minute. Released is
Speaker 2: Lyle Collins, Waved is Nick Broker, Denzel Jackson, Josh Kelly,
Speaker 2: Tyler Nevill Troy Pride, John Stephen Juniors and then wave
Speaker 2: injured was Christian Matthew. Any of those names pop off
Speaker 2: the lists so.
Speaker 4: Far, maybe not pop off the list, but a couple
Speaker 4: that I were maybe surprised to see in the first
Speaker 4: wave or Troy Pride and John Stevens. Troy Pride I
Speaker 4: thought knocked on the door of making this roster, but
Speaker 4: I think Andrew Booth's second preseason game really put him
Speaker 4: over the edge. And then whenever Booth got the ball
Speaker 4: cap on the sideline for preseason game three, I think
Speaker 4: that kind of told you where Pride was headed. But
Speaker 4: a really physical player in camp. I think he'll land
Speaker 4: on a practice squad either here or somewhere else and
Speaker 4: be really good. And then John Stevens man, that's just
Speaker 4: a tough story.
Speaker 9: You know.
Speaker 4: You go back to the training camp in twenty twenty three,
Speaker 4: it was so much fun getting to see him, you know,
Speaker 4: really shine out there in Oxnard, and he was electric.
Speaker 4: Tours ACL came back last year for training camp, did
Speaker 4: the same thing tours ACL again and then it sounds
Speaker 4: like he's been dealing with some knees so ons as
Speaker 4: well in that same knee. So it's it's it's tough,
Speaker 4: and you know, you hope he rebounds, whether that's on
Speaker 4: the field or off the field. But wishing the best
Speaker 4: for John Stevens just wanted to shot him out.
Speaker 8: No, absolutely, I'm in addition to him, Tyler Neville, who's
Speaker 8: someone who has a great story, who had a decent camp.
Speaker 8: I feel like he had spurts where he was actually
Speaker 8: like really good.
Speaker 4: But it's another one of those.
Speaker 8: Great stories that you hope works out, you know. And
Speaker 8: I think these are two guys that you could definitely
Speaker 8: get in your practice squad. I mean just just guessing here.
Speaker 8: I was kind of standing last week. I was sitting
Speaker 8: on the ta for the experience and familiarity of Alile Collins.
Speaker 8: But after watching you know, Atlanta, this Atlanta game, I understand, uh,
Speaker 8: there wanting to emphasize their young talent and keep generating
Speaker 8: their their talent with a guy like a Jeannie Johnny
Speaker 8: Johnny Cornelie who had an excellent game, excellent game, So
Speaker 8: you understand why they want to develop a guy like that.
Speaker 8: If he ends up on the roster if he doesn't,
Speaker 8: I you know, you understand that too, Uh, Troy Pride
Speaker 8: made a big play, but didn't make a big play.
Speaker 8: You kind of there's just a mental laps there obviously,
Speaker 8: But I think he was, like you said, he was
Speaker 8: physical in camp. So a few names, but I don't
Speaker 8: think there's any big surprise here.
Speaker 4: Yeah, safety right? Was that that was a safety right? Yes,
Speaker 4: destroy Pride. It would have absolutely had to play counted.
Speaker 4: He like caught it and backward momentum did not take
Speaker 4: him to the into the end zone. And I was
Speaker 4: sit there watching it live, I was like.
Speaker 2: I think all of us, all of us in the
Speaker 2: press box were looking at it the same way of
Speaker 2: like he caught that ball with like the five.
Speaker 7: Yard line and he totally ran into the He could have.
Speaker 2: Turned and cut easily, but he just kind of like
Speaker 2: floated in. It's like, I mean, either that or his
Speaker 2: agility is like a negative seven on Matt like, and
Speaker 2: I don't think that's the case. I just think if
Speaker 2: if you're if you're gonna say his momentum carried him
Speaker 2: into the end zone, I was like, I don't know
Speaker 2: about that one.
Speaker 4: That was He's lucky. The play didn't care.
Speaker 2: That was the first conversation. Is because of the penalty beforehand,
Speaker 2: that that penalty wouldn't have happened, and maybe maybe the
Speaker 2: officials are lucky that it didn't happen too. They're like, ah,
Speaker 2: we could just call Pal'll be fine, because then they're
Speaker 2: gonna have to go back and sort through whether or
Speaker 2: not that was a safety or preseason weird scenarios. They
Speaker 2: pop up all the time, but that one was a
Speaker 2: little extra. I was like, why are you taking to
Speaker 2: me in the back of the zone.
Speaker 7: He like celebrat on that, and it was just like, everybody,
Speaker 7: what are we doing?
Speaker 4: Everybody?
Speaker 2: That was That was an interesting one going back to.
Speaker 4: That's and I made the team. Yeah, like the places.
Speaker 2: Rain falling down.
Speaker 4: That was Israel mcwama with so far interception. He was
Speaker 4: like throwing his helmet in the stands. He's like, I
Speaker 4: made this hard.
Speaker 7: Cut to cut days he's shouldn't have done that.
Speaker 2: Back to Lyle Collins, I thought some some of the
Speaker 2: local media was tweeting about it and saying he never
Speaker 2: really had a chance to make the roster and he
Speaker 2: never was given the opportunity. I think it's more so
Speaker 2: the second one he never really got a ton of
Speaker 2: preseason snaps, but they brought him back to give him
Speaker 2: a shot. They gave him a shot to make it.
Speaker 2: The name certainly rings more than maybe the tape did,
Speaker 2: but he had a good workout in Ox Start. They
Speaker 2: signed him for a reason. He stuck around all through
Speaker 2: training camp. I think some of the stuff that he
Speaker 2: was doing post practice, in the way that he was
Speaker 2: working with guys like Donovan Azraku and some of those
Speaker 2: other young guys after practice, with handwork and footwork and
Speaker 2: some of the extra things, that was so valuable. So
Speaker 2: even if he doesn't make the roster, I mean, I
Speaker 2: think there's a lot of what else did in this
Speaker 2: training camp and in this preseason that will show up
Speaker 2: on the field in twenty twenty five for the Cowboys.
Speaker 2: So I want to give him the respect where the
Speaker 2: respect is due. He took some extra time to mentor
Speaker 2: these guys, even though he was here for just a
Speaker 2: short time a couple of weeks. There was an impact
Speaker 2: and there was a footprint. So if they brought him
Speaker 2: back on the practice squad, I don't know if he's
Speaker 2: interested in the practice quad. He's a vested veteran. He
Speaker 2: can sign anywhere he wants to. That's part of the
Speaker 2: release thing. If they do sign him to the practice squad,
Speaker 2: that's a good thing for this team.
Speaker 8: And I think with as little as you saw him
Speaker 8: out in practice and taking snaps, that's kind of why
Speaker 8: I was like, oh, okay, Well, they're leaning on his
Speaker 8: experience in this matter, and you don't necessarily need to
Speaker 8: see him out in preseason or anything like that.
Speaker 7: But mostly meant.
Speaker 2: I wonder if, yeah, I wonder if coaching's in his future,
Speaker 2: you think he would want to go?
Speaker 4: Yeah, that's he certainly show that he can do that
Speaker 4: at this camp. So if his career.
Speaker 8: Is an interview of differ and sorts, you're saying, yeah,
Speaker 8: maybe so, maybe so maybe, all right, I see him here.
Speaker 2: When we come back. What are some of the other
Speaker 2: roster cuts that could be on the horizon. Are there
Speaker 2: any surprise names that we should be looking for? What
Speaker 2: are the rumors kind of floating around the fifty three
Speaker 2: man roster? All those cuts will happen today, We'll see
Speaker 2: if they all get reported today. But either way, let's
Speaker 2: try and look through the magnifying glass and see what
Speaker 2: else could be coming from the Cowboys. Fifty three man
Speaker 2: roster cut down. And then later in the show, let's
Speaker 2: talk about whether or not Trey Higdendrickson's deal with Cincinnati,
Speaker 2: one of the top edg rushers and football gets a
Speaker 2: pay raise. What does that mean for Michael Parsons if anything,
Speaker 2: When we come back with more talking.
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Speaker 7: Yes he will.
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Speaker 8: I mean tomorrow starts like the regular podcast schedule. Granted
Speaker 8: we're getting started early. This is our time. Yeah, this
Speaker 8: is our slot, this is our slot. This is how
Speaker 8: we do it.
Speaker 2: Just go set your alarm nine am, get up, get
Speaker 2: your coffee, your black rifle, let's get this.
Speaker 7: Let's go dude. But we're no longer the first podcast
Speaker 7: of the day is you know, they know.
Speaker 2: I kind of hate it. Why because I like to
Speaker 2: be in the first podcast today. I liked after like
Speaker 2: a Monday win. We're the ones they get to throw
Speaker 2: the party at the first.
Speaker 4: Man Ladies first.
Speaker 2: But yeah, ladies first. It's fine. It's fine. Girls talk
Speaker 2: boys talk today. I love it for them. I hate
Speaker 2: it for us, Like I just wish we were the first.
Speaker 2: That's my opinion.
Speaker 7: Like being early.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, yeah, I like being here early and be
Speaker 2: able to like set up in the in the in
Speaker 2: the room, you know, nine o two exactly, Like, yeah,
Speaker 2: I'm here at a fifteen every day. No, no later
Speaker 2: than that, you know, like if you're not forty five
Speaker 2: minutes earlier late, right, He's like.
Speaker 7: I like to take my time back up nine five.
Speaker 7: I'm just taking my time.
Speaker 6: I think the fustest thing about the schedule was yesterday
Speaker 6: when I'm gonna pull back the curtain a little bit.
Speaker 2: Yeah, do that all right.
Speaker 6: So we're in here and Josh and I kind of
Speaker 6: know the schedule, we really do. And but the Seka,
Speaker 6: I don't think she looked at the schedule, not at all.
Speaker 6: There is not a chance she looked at the schedule.
Speaker 4: So what did she gets our podcast up on the air?
Speaker 2: By the way, she yes, she yeah, is in the air.
Speaker 2: And what did she say to us yesterday?
Speaker 8: She was Girls Talk is at eight o'clock. Genuinely, no clue.
Speaker 2: No idea. It's like girls Talks at eight Yeah? Are
Speaker 2: you kidding me? I'm like, yep, yeah, here Girls Talk
Speaker 2: Boys Talk eight am, eight am Monday through Friday, starting tomorrow,
Speaker 2: starring Nicole Hutcheson does a great job on that show,
Speaker 2: and then we'll follow him up at nine am. She's great.
Speaker 2: Our comment of the day comes from Broke. He's he's
Speaker 2: starting to rack up some wins here. This one just
Speaker 2: made me chuckle. He said, is Nick Bryan's son in
Speaker 2: Brian brought us? Would you like to go ahead?
Speaker 4: And I don't know somewhere in between just say here's
Speaker 4: a guy a lot.
Speaker 2: Yeah, here's yes, so yeah, No he is not a podcast. No,
Speaker 2: Nick does have a podcast. Great point, I uhould talk
Speaker 2: about that later. All right, let's move on to uh
Speaker 2: to getting into fifty three man roster. Maybe not predictions,
Speaker 2: but let's let's hear the rumor mill. Nobody better than
Speaker 2: hear the rumor mill from Nick Harris of the fort
Speaker 2: Worth Star Telegram. What are you hearing right now?
Speaker 8: Formerlydalls Cobs dot com.
Speaker 4: Yes, yes, very very put. I think there's going to
Speaker 4: be some interesting guys on this roster today. I I
Speaker 4: released a fifty three man projection yesterday on the For'
Speaker 4: Star Teller, and I think there's already a couple that
Speaker 4: I think are going to be wrong. One that I
Speaker 4: would I would probably categorize as the biggest surprise to
Speaker 4: keep an eye on. I'm not saying this is going
Speaker 4: to happen, but one to definitely keep an eye on.
Speaker 4: This team really likes Ernest Brown, so Ernest Brown is
Speaker 4: certainly want to keep an eye on. As far as
Speaker 4: like that defensive interior spot. Played really well in the preseason,
Speaker 4: had his moments in camp, but I think it was
Speaker 4: those two preseason games that he played in that really
Speaker 4: made him shine. Who does that push out? Probably a
Speaker 4: guy like Perry on Winfrey. I think it would be
Speaker 4: an either or in that situation. I don't think you
Speaker 4: can risk putting Jatoya on on waivers. I don't think
Speaker 4: he would clear them. Mazzie Smith is going to be
Speaker 4: on this team. I think I think it came close.
Speaker 4: I'll say that it came close, but he is on
Speaker 4: this team. But yeah, I would keep an eye on
Speaker 4: Ernest Brown. That didn't Ryan Product if I will go.
Speaker 8: Raiders understandable why you wouldn't put Jatoya on on waivers
Speaker 8: only because he's I mean, his traits are something that
Speaker 8: you don't have on this team. You don't have a
Speaker 8: guy of that size Canada dirt. I love it, man,
Speaker 8: give it to me every time. But Ernest Brown is said,
Speaker 8: surprise to me, I don't think that he I mean,
Speaker 8: at least to me eye tests.
Speaker 7: I don't think he made in many plays as Paron
Speaker 7: Winfrey did.
Speaker 2: And hop off the page. But you think about the
Speaker 2: possibility of Yeah, tell me why Kyle, it's I mean,
Speaker 2: it's the youth of Ernest Brown. You've got a couple
Speaker 2: of years under perry On Winfrey him. They've seen what
Speaker 2: Winfrey can do in an NFL setting before, and they're
Speaker 2: going to rely a lot on that film that he
Speaker 2: had in Cleveland and then he had coming out of Oklahoma,
Speaker 2: whereas Ernest Brown, nobody really knows about yet. I think
Speaker 2: it's gonna be between those two guys and who's most
Speaker 2: likely to make it to the practice squad if you
Speaker 2: cut them, because I think both will be a part
Speaker 2: of this team, or they'll try and keep them as
Speaker 2: both a part of the team. I don't know if
Speaker 2: they feel more confident one way or the other. I
Speaker 2: think I would say Winfrey. But Winfrey was also on
Speaker 2: waivers previously, right like he was a free agent initially
Speaker 2: wasn't playing in the league, So maybe they can sneak
Speaker 2: him to the practice squad. If that's the case, But
Speaker 2: I think overall there's still I would you choose Winfrey,
Speaker 2: I would choose Winy I think I would too.
Speaker 8: I would trust this team in this front office for
Speaker 8: picking their UFO guys. They're guys from from the developmental leagues.
Speaker 8: I mean, I think they have a good eye for it.
Speaker 8: They've picked out a lot of really good guys. I mean,
Speaker 8: look at Cavanti Turpin. You know he was coming from
Speaker 8: the UFL.
Speaker 7: So I don't know.
Speaker 8: I would trust them on this one. I really would.
Speaker 8: But Ernest Brown, if they like him, you know.
Speaker 2: Would you keep just based on your eye test, Nick,
Speaker 2: not not what you have prepared from the team, because
Speaker 2: I think the team maybe values Ernest Brown more. But
Speaker 2: I think from an eye test standpoint, I would choose Winfrey.
Speaker 4: Winfrey for sure.
Speaker 2: Yeah, so, and that doesn't change anything. Ahead of them
Speaker 2: and still gonna be Solomon Osa Manzi.
Speaker 7: And told me you didn't think you could get Ernest
Speaker 7: Brown past waivers.
Speaker 2: I think you could.
Speaker 7: What are we doing?
Speaker 2: The only the only reason you couldn't is because if
Speaker 2: it's uh, it's a rookie, and teams are like, oh,
Speaker 2: they liked him a lot. Yeah, let's plug him, you know. Yeah,
Speaker 2: that might be the one thing. I think Winfrey they
Speaker 2: probably both would make it. We say this every year
Speaker 2: where there's yeah, there's a couple guys where it's like, oh,
Speaker 2: there's no way he's gonna make waivers, and then he
Speaker 2: makes waivers.
Speaker 7: Every team has their own guys exactly like that.
Speaker 2: Exactly, there's gonna be one or two guys that don't
Speaker 2: make it. Yeah, And I don't know if Ernest Brown
Speaker 2: or Perry On Winfrey would be that guy that doesn't
Speaker 2: make it. Uh, do you want to stay on defense?
Speaker 2: You're gonna go back to offense.
Speaker 4: As far as surprises go, we're gonna stay there. Yeah, Okay,
Speaker 4: I don't know if this is necessarily a surprise anymore.
Speaker 4: We talked about it a little bit. I think Andrew
Speaker 4: Booth is safely on this roster, which, uh.
Speaker 2: It's both the indictment and uh uh non surprise.
Speaker 4: Your silence speaks volume there, Nick Harris. The biggest question
Speaker 4: that I think this this team will have to answer
Speaker 4: in these decision making process is who do they take
Speaker 4: for the last couple of cornerback spots? So you're safe, guys,
Speaker 4: Trayvon Dix, he's gonna be on the roster. He passes
Speaker 4: physical on Sunday, Deron Bland, kyr Elam and Andrew Booth.
Speaker 4: So those last two spots, you basically have Zion Childers,
Speaker 4: Israel Mukuamu, Keemon Hall. Yeah, you can take two of them.
Speaker 4: I would assume probably. I think you need to roll
Speaker 4: into the season with six corners with the idea that
Speaker 4: Trayvon is most likely not going to play in Week one.
Speaker 4: I mean you could roll in with five and then
Speaker 4: elevate one from the practice squad. That's certainly a possibility
Speaker 4: as well, but that's something to keep in mind. Also
Speaker 4: keep in mind Kayln Carson too. So if I lose
Speaker 4: you guys here, please feel free to stop me and
Speaker 4: get in between. So there are two guys that there
Speaker 4: are two guys that this team can put on IR
Speaker 4: to start the season. So it used to be the
Speaker 4: guys had to sit on the fifty three man roster
Speaker 4: for twenty four hours and then you can put them
Speaker 4: on IR. Now you can designate two of those guys
Speaker 4: just from the beginning, so they don't have to sit
Speaker 4: on the fifty three men roster. But if you have
Speaker 4: a third guy, they would have to sit. They have
Speaker 4: three candidates right now, Jonathan Mingo, now Phil MafA, and
Speaker 4: Kayln Carson. So which of those three guys do you
Speaker 4: actually put on the roster to sit for twenty four
Speaker 4: hours before putting on the putting on ir That's going
Speaker 4: to be the question. That's the roster gymnastics that you
Speaker 4: have to play with this ordeal. That's when you cut
Speaker 4: a guy like Trent Sig or CJ. Goodwin and you
Speaker 4: just have a handshake deal like, hey, we'll sign you tomorrow, buddy.
Speaker 4: I always wonder if like any of those ever gone
Speaker 4: wrong before. I've been curious. Not here, not here, I'm serious,
Speaker 4: it's never happened. I wonder if you tomorrow and then.
Speaker 2: It goes to Baltimore or something like that.
Speaker 4: But yeah, I would keep keep your eye on, keep
Speaker 4: your eye on something like that.
Speaker 2: Hands up.
Speaker 4: I think there are three guys to keep an eye
Speaker 4: on when it comes to those uh uh that kind
Speaker 4: of situation. Will Greer because he's invested veteran Trent Sigg
Speaker 4: and then c J. Goodwin. Those are those three guys
Speaker 4: I would keep an eye on as far as if
Speaker 4: they're not on the fifty three men roster today. Don't
Speaker 4: lose your mind. They will probably be on.
Speaker 2: Is it Hakeema Dentergy.
Speaker 4: So Haikeema Dentergy is another fascinating conversation because the last
Speaker 4: offensive line spot is basically down to him and Johnny Cornelius.
Speaker 4: Hakeema Dentergy would not have to clear waivers because he
Speaker 4: has more than four accrude seasons. Johnny Cornelius is a rookie.
Speaker 4: He would have to clear waivers. That's a big determining
Speaker 4: factor in a lot of these things. I would expect
Speaker 4: Johnny Cornelius to be on this roster. I Dentergy to
Speaker 4: get cut, for him to come back to the practicecho
Speaker 4: and then he'll probably be the first guy up whenever
Speaker 4: an injury happens on the offensive line. They really liked
Speaker 4: what a Dentergy did in campus. Just that's the roster gymnastics.
Speaker 4: You have to play sometimes, but it's it's it's a
Speaker 4: fascinating ordeal. Also something to keep in mind, you can
Speaker 4: only keep six veterans on the practice squad, and there's
Speaker 4: a lot of candidates on this team. You talk about
Speaker 4: Darius Harris, Buddy Johnson, and keepan Dentegy. We talked about
Speaker 4: one earlier Lyle Collin. If heeward to possibly make it back.
Speaker 4: I don't think he does. But there's there's a lot
Speaker 4: of candidates that fit into that category on this team,
Speaker 4: but they can only keep six of them. So something
Speaker 4: to keep in mind.
Speaker 2: It enders, Yeah, Miles Sanders, he makes this roster. I
Speaker 2: think so too the running back position here, because that's
Speaker 2: an interesting case in its own right. Who would you
Speaker 2: pick as your three?
Speaker 7: My three would be no, sorry, keep.
Speaker 2: The electrifying going.
Speaker 8: I mean in a great game, man, he really did.
Speaker 8: He saw my cuts last week and then like you
Speaker 8: see him ball out on the third.
Speaker 7: Yeah, just amazing.
Speaker 8: So I would have to keep Johnson Williams is your
Speaker 8: starter for sure, Jayson Blue and if so, we do
Speaker 8: we know film Offa's situation currently.
Speaker 7: Is he going to I'm.
Speaker 4: Going to go on ir start the year?
Speaker 8: Then it's uh, Hunter Lipkey and Miles Sanders. Yeah, I
Speaker 8: guess you have to. Yeah, the MafA to MafA was
Speaker 8: in question. If he wasn't in question at all, it
Speaker 8: would be MafA over Miles Sanders for me.
Speaker 2: And think kind of interesting. I I and I see
Speaker 2: there are a lot of people that think that way.
Speaker 2: I said it last week on talking I don't see
Speaker 2: a spot where Film Mafa's on this team and Miles
Speaker 2: Sanders is not. I just don't see that that's fair
Speaker 2: as But they don't want to get rid of him.
Speaker 2: So that's where my heart comes in. Yeah, it's a
Speaker 2: nice little stashing grounds or Film Afa where if you
Speaker 2: need him later in the year, you can pick him
Speaker 2: up at really any point, were you coughing, I did not.
Speaker 2: I are.
Speaker 4: No. I would clone Hunter Lokey four times my running backs.
Speaker 2: I I consistent.
Speaker 4: If it were me and film MafA was healthy, I
Speaker 4: would go Avante Jaden Blue film offa Hunter lucky in
Speaker 4: the sense that MafA is not healthy, put in Miles Sanders.
Speaker 4: I also really like what Molieu Davis did in camp.
Speaker 4: I hope he finds a spot somewhere league. If it's
Speaker 4: not on this team, somewhere else. I can go from
Speaker 4: the couch to the game in like four days. Ran
Speaker 4: for six yards. He was great. It was It was
Speaker 4: really cool to see. But I think that's probably what
Speaker 4: this running back situation looks like.
Speaker 2: The man that's a tough running back room. I want
Speaker 2: to take our second break here before I do. Did
Speaker 2: you guys see Ben de Nucci is doing college football,
Speaker 2: did color analysts work for CBS Sports.
Speaker 4: He's doing Bucknell and air Forces.
Speaker 2: How sick is that good for him? He got cut,
Speaker 2: had a viral tweet that was honestly hilarious where he said,
Speaker 2: there's nothing that quite hits like the seventh I've gotten
Speaker 2: cut by the NFL airport beer And he just had
Speaker 2: a picture of the beer and whatever airport might have
Speaker 2: been the Atlanta airport that he was in. But I
Speaker 2: saw bend the Nucci down on the sideline pre game
Speaker 2: and said, Hi, he was in good spirits and threw
Speaker 2: a pick on his first pass attempts. But still I'm
Speaker 2: happy for him to land in a booth. I think
Speaker 2: he's he'd be a great color analyst.
Speaker 3: Ben.
Speaker 7: He's got a good hat company. He does have a
Speaker 7: good he's doing all right.
Speaker 2: Yeah, he'll be fine. He's gonna make some money with CBS.
Speaker 2: He'll be fine.
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Speaker 2: nine am. I'll hear here, Oh well.
Speaker 7: Yeah not this Friday.
Speaker 2: Yeah we are? Are we this Friday? Why would we
Speaker 2: not be? Yeah, look at the skin. I know then,
Speaker 2: I know the schedule. I'm That's what I said.
Speaker 4: Can I go on if if there's going to be
Speaker 4: a couple of players cut today that fans are going
Speaker 4: to be upset about, There's going to be a couple
Speaker 4: of players and they are going to lose their mind.
Speaker 4: If if you are one of those people that lose
Speaker 4: your mind over someone that is cut today, Let's say
Speaker 4: like a rookie undrafted kid. I want you to tag
Speaker 4: me on Twitter and say and and point back to
Speaker 4: a time where this team cut a player and he
Speaker 4: landed on another team on a waiver wire and he
Speaker 4: had like a stellar career. I'm just gonna wait on that.
Speaker 2: The biggest name recently I can think of is like.
Speaker 4: John Ridgway, John Ridgway and he's out of it. He
Speaker 4: hasn't He wouldn't have been any better.
Speaker 2: I don't know.
Speaker 4: Like Isaiah Land a couple of years ago, you would
Speaker 4: have thought that this Julius Wood last year, you would
Speaker 4: have thought that they cut you know, Javon Howe.
Speaker 2: It's who would be who would be the guy that
Speaker 2: you would be super upset about it if they got.
Speaker 4: That's what I'm saying, Like, I don't think there's a
Speaker 4: reason to get super upset about anybody.
Speaker 2: Who would What about medium upset? I would?
Speaker 8: I would throw a brick through a wallf it was
Speaker 8: Shamar James seeing that that won't happen.
Speaker 4: That won't happen. That's what like I would.
Speaker 2: I would be absolutely I could just see Josh chuck
Speaker 2: and a brick like all the windows in here.
Speaker 7: I would be so upset, but that's not gonna happen.
Speaker 2: I don't think they would cut him. Yeah, yeah, James
Speaker 2: was a fifth round draft pick, so I don't think
Speaker 2: they really try not to part ways.
Speaker 4: I think one I could maybe see getting cut and
Speaker 4: landing somewhere else and doing all right. Is James anywhere
Speaker 4: like James Houston could probably be one like that would
Speaker 4: be I would understand maybe a little bit of a
Speaker 4: you know, an outrage over that.
Speaker 2: But again, was there ever really a spot on the
Speaker 2: roster for him? He played well the other day. Do
Speaker 2: you think he could have made played his way into
Speaker 2: a spot?
Speaker 5: Yeah?
Speaker 4: I have him, I have him on my fiftieth reprojection. Okay, Yeah,
Speaker 4: so yeah, it's gonna be him or Peyton Turner. It's
Speaker 4: gonna be one of those two guys.
Speaker 2: Yeah. See, I think I would pick Houston.
Speaker 4: Houston, Do you have enough run support on the end,
Speaker 4: on the edge for to be able to justify that?
Speaker 4: Because James Houston's six one two forty Yeah, run game stuff. Yeah,
Speaker 4: that question would come down to how confident are you
Speaker 4: and Sam Williams to be able to step up in
Speaker 4: the right.
Speaker 2: Se And I'm pretty confident. I think Sam Williams had
Speaker 2: a better camp than people are leading on.
Speaker 4: I think so too.
Speaker 2: I think I don't know why there's so much slander
Speaker 2: on Sam Williams.
Speaker 4: Yeah I don't. I don't understand where DUDEO is coming from.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I think I have an idea, but I'm not
Speaker 2: going to say it here. There's there's one guy in
Speaker 2: particular all right. Speaking of bad rushers, Trey Hendrickson, one
Speaker 2: of the top bad drushers in football, wanted a deal
Speaker 2: held in just like Michael Parsons did, maybe a little
Speaker 2: bit more severe than the Michael Parsons held out then
Speaker 2: held in exactly so at least at some point there
Speaker 2: was an actual held out. Whereas Parsons has been here,
Speaker 2: he gets a raise, they up his salary to thirty million,
Speaker 2: but it's still a one year deal. What does that
Speaker 2: do for the Micah Parsons situation? If anything, It might
Speaker 2: not change a single thing, But does it change anything
Speaker 2: in your eyes?
Speaker 4: I mean, if there's anything that that does happen with
Speaker 4: that is there's there is no excuse to from the
Speaker 4: agent perspective, to come to the table like because from
Speaker 4: an agent perspective, it makes sense to wait until the
Speaker 4: market is finished before you get your guy in. Sorry,
Speaker 4: Evan as a reflix here, Yeah, I know had Wing
Speaker 4: stop last night. That's still a sponsor. Okay, good, we
Speaker 4: get the rants.
Speaker 7: It's honest.
Speaker 4: Yeah, it was great. I think now it incentivizes the
Speaker 4: agent to, you know, come to the negotiation table. But again,
Speaker 4: there's so many nuances to this ordeal between Micah and
Speaker 4: and and the organization. I think this is a very
Speaker 4: minimal impact, if any, But I think it's notable. I'll
Speaker 4: say that because now Michael Parsons is the last one
Speaker 4: standing as far as you know, non quarterbacks. Ed Rusher's
Speaker 4: whatever you want to say. Terry McLaurin got done yesterday too,
Speaker 4: so there's another one. Now it's just all eyes around
Speaker 4: Michael Parsons. So you know, there's nothing from the agent
Speaker 4: perspective to want to hold and wait now, Yeah.
Speaker 8: I mean at this point, I would be very surprised
Speaker 8: if it happens this season. I mean, wow, Jerry Jones
Speaker 8: has been very adamant about he's under contract for this
Speaker 8: year and we've seen this play out before. I mean,
Speaker 8: the Netflix documentary is kind of the proof is there
Speaker 8: if Mike is willing to hold Smith?
Speaker 7: Yeah, I mean.
Speaker 8: If the only leverage that he really has, if he's
Speaker 8: willing to hold out and not play games. But that
Speaker 8: would it would have to mean that you desperately need
Speaker 8: Michael Parsons on the team, and of course you do,
Speaker 8: but that's the only leverage that he has, and is
Speaker 8: he willing to lose that much money per game for
Speaker 8: the rest of the season. I don't know about that
Speaker 8: because he's been holding in this whole time.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I think the time to hold out is gone. Yeah,
Speaker 2: he probably won't be in practices up until Philly. But
Speaker 2: is he going to dress out for Philly? Who knows?
Speaker 2: I do you think he's he's available? Dak said yesterday
Speaker 2: he has no questions. He thinks he'll be there. He
Speaker 2: says he expects him to be there.
Speaker 8: I don't know how you expect him to play and
Speaker 8: not expect him to be limited. I think he would
Speaker 8: be extremely limited, like pass down situations and that's about it. Yeah,
Speaker 8: I'm sorry, go ahead, Sorry, I mean no, no, no, like
Speaker 8: that was genuinely it. Like, I don't know how you
Speaker 8: you don't expect him to be limited.
Speaker 4: This team returns with the practice field on Friday. If
Speaker 4: he's not on the practice field on Friday, then I
Speaker 4: it's if he plays. Yeah, we're looking at fifteen twenty snaps.
Speaker 4: I mean it's it's it would be a rampant out there.
Speaker 4: I mean it would be it would be a disservice
Speaker 4: to him and the team. You would risk injury. Yeah,
Speaker 4: a lot of things. I don't know if this back
Speaker 4: tightness is a real thing. Well, let's say it is.
Speaker 4: You know, Oh, did you not see.
Speaker 7: Him laying down on the sideline.
Speaker 4: Yeah, he's trying to trying.
Speaker 2: To stretch out the back get it. It was little.
Speaker 4: I don't know, I don't know, back tightness. Yeah, yeah, sure,
Speaker 4: contracts a really good medicine for that.
Speaker 2: Yeah, that'll work out pretty well. Pretty You get a
Speaker 2: lot of tailing on with that forty million. It does
Speaker 2: it change anything the fact that Hendrickson could have reset
Speaker 2: the market to forty one million or whatever it would
Speaker 2: have been to reset the market, and he doesn't. Instead,
Speaker 2: it's just a one year deal, and it's just kind
Speaker 2: of a hey, like, here's a little extra bread. We'll
Speaker 2: get you down the road. Maybe. Probably not. I don't
Speaker 2: think Cincinnati should be the expected resigning for Trey Hendrickson
Speaker 2: next year, right, just with it being a one year deal,
Speaker 2: kind of seems like, hey, here you go, here's a
Speaker 2: little extra cash, and then we're good with you after.
Speaker 4: Twenty Yeah, they were like, we had so much fun
Speaker 4: doing this, we're gonna do it again next year.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 4: A lot of headlines out of it. Buddy, Cincinnati. I
Speaker 4: would put them number one in the league, including this organization.
Speaker 4: In that conversation, I'd put Cincinnati number one in the
Speaker 4: league when it comes to just not figuring out how
Speaker 4: to do contracts, right, I mean it, it is unreal,
Speaker 4: how how how much they Chase I've stuttered through things
Speaker 4: like that Burrow it was smooth. It was Chase Higgins,
Speaker 4: Oh my god, Higgins, Shamar Stewart, their first round draft pick.
Speaker 4: I mean so many different things, but all in all,
Speaker 4: I don't think the Hendrickson thing really causes a domino
Speaker 4: effect really for Michael Parsons. I think that is a
Speaker 4: unique situation to its own.
Speaker 8: Yeah, Cowboys are not on anybody's timeline, man, no other
Speaker 8: than one person.
Speaker 2: Yeah, and his name is Jerry Jones. And in this
Speaker 2: in this case, in this scenario, I hope he's out
Speaker 2: there Friday.
Speaker 7: By the way, he had a great interview with him
Speaker 7: on the pregame thank You the other day.
Speaker 2: Yeah. I enjoyed that. He was good. He gave us.
Speaker 2: I mean again, peeking back the curtain. Talking about Micah
Speaker 2: in that scenario is not always on the table. They
Speaker 2: really don't like it when you talk about contract stuff
Speaker 2: unless they want to be asked about it. Usually I
Speaker 2: try and stay away from that stuff on that that.
Speaker 7: Well, and he already talked about it all week, but.
Speaker 2: He had talked about it with Michael Irvin and with
Speaker 2: Steven A. Smith, and so it was already kind of
Speaker 2: out there.
Speaker 8: But I did I could have completed the trifecta with
Speaker 8: Halli Yemmens though.
Speaker 2: He could have. Yeah, I'm on the same level. Of course.
Speaker 2: The question I asked him though, to kind of lead
Speaker 2: in that one direction, was would uh has it been
Speaker 2: tough to evaluate? Yeah, it's been tough, And he talked
Speaker 2: about availability and ability. He said, of course you value
Speaker 2: ability number one, but availability is number two. And I
Speaker 2: thought it kind of pointed at Trayvon more than pointed
Speaker 2: at Micah. It pointed at both guys there. But I
Speaker 2: think Trayvon answered a lot of questions and I got
Speaker 2: to give him a lot of credit whenever they passed
Speaker 2: the physical this past week. That's a huge step for him,
Speaker 2: absolutely huge step. Not that it was anything that was
Speaker 2: surprised on his camp. His camp knew the entire time
Speaker 2: where he was, what he was doing. I don't know
Speaker 2: if this camp necessarily knew about it. I don't know
Speaker 2: if the Cowboys were necessarily that on top of the
Speaker 2: Trayvon situation.
Speaker 8: But had he been in the facility earlier, probably would
Speaker 8: have been and you know, who knows if he would
Speaker 8: have been ready for Week one definitely, you know, had
Speaker 8: he been doing that. But he took accountability for it,
Speaker 8: and he said he had a great locker room interview
Speaker 8: yesterday where he's talking to the media, and I think
Speaker 8: he was taking accountability for it. Andy had mentioned that,
Speaker 8: you know, the decision was his own and he understands
Speaker 8: why the business decision had to be made on top
Speaker 8: of that. So, I mean there's a lot of accountability
Speaker 8: there that I was not expecting from Treyvon Diggs yesterday.
Speaker 2: I'm happy that he's going to be at least on
Speaker 2: the fifty three man roster and have a chance to
Speaker 2: play Week one again, kind of like the Micah thing.
Speaker 2: If he's not out there Friday, and maybe he is
Speaker 2: out there, he probably will be out there Friday, but
Speaker 2: how much is he going to actually play in Week one?
Speaker 2: Probably limited snaps, but at least he's available. If available.
Speaker 4: I wonder if we get a practice report on Friday.
Speaker 4: I know we won't. We'll get it Sunday.
Speaker 2: Get its Sunday.
Speaker 4: It's Sunday, maybe the first one of the season.
Speaker 2: Yeah, all those days get mixed up with the game
Speaker 2: being on Thursday, which means later in the week. Here
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