WEBVTT - An Unlikely Affair: Never Quit Your Job for a Man

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<v Speaker 1>You look so cute. I can't even stand it. Are

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<v Speaker 1>you in like full overalls? Fuck? Yeah, Montana, look at

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<v Speaker 1>you go? Hi Amber, Hilela, Welcome to an Unlikely Affair.

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<v Speaker 2>Good day, my fellows. Welcome to another episode of an

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<v Speaker 2>Unlikely Affair.

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<v Speaker 1>Good day, mighty, Hi babe, Hi, how are you good?

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<v Speaker 1>Every time I look outside, I'm like, you cannot beat

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<v Speaker 1>what you wake up to at Amber's house outside?

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<v Speaker 2>You really can't. It really is special, it is I

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<v Speaker 2>like the topic today. You know, I used to be

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<v Speaker 2>afraid of this topic, but now I'm just ready to

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<v Speaker 2>grab it by the saggy balls.

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<v Speaker 1>You and I have a very different and I think

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<v Speaker 1>I have a very different I don't want to say outlook,

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<v Speaker 1>but I think we have a different relationship with money.

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<v Speaker 1>I have different relationship with money than most of my friends.

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<v Speaker 1>And I think your relationship with money just comes from

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<v Speaker 1>your experiences, right, what you've seen, what you've seen your parents,

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<v Speaker 1>go through your grandparents, and then obviously you develop certain habits,

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<v Speaker 1>and then whoever your partner is, and as you see things,

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<v Speaker 1>you kind of move differently when it comes to your finances.

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<v Speaker 1>I think, and prime example is I got invited to

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<v Speaker 1>Vegas and this person was told me that he would

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<v Speaker 1>book my flight and hotel and to me, which is

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<v Speaker 1>this is just in my head, right, I'm like, if

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<v Speaker 1>you book my stuff, this is now your trip and

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<v Speaker 1>I'm a guest, and there's some sort of control here.

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<v Speaker 1>If I book my flight and my room, this is

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<v Speaker 1>my trip. I can technically do whatever the fuck I

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<v Speaker 1>want because I got myself here and I'll see you there.

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<v Speaker 2>It means freedom by booking your own stuff. It means

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<v Speaker 2>I'm not obligated right to show up when you want

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<v Speaker 2>me to to be in your room if you want

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<v Speaker 2>me to to not you know what I mean. It's

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<v Speaker 2>it's a very weird. But I'm so curious. How do

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<v Speaker 2>you think from the outside looking in? And know? Oh,

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<v Speaker 2>I don't care. I would love to your perspective on

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<v Speaker 2>how my view of money differs from your view of money.

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<v Speaker 2>Let's get real.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh, I don't like this question because anything I are

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<v Speaker 1>you going to get offended?

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<v Speaker 2>I just said, okay, I'm not going to get offended,

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<v Speaker 2>and if I do, I'll be like, wow, that hurt me.

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<v Speaker 1>Example when which I think this is a great idea,

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<v Speaker 1>but again, I feel like I'm turning over power to somebody,

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<v Speaker 1>if a man wants to take you on a date

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<v Speaker 1>and you have children, he should pay for child care

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<v Speaker 1>if he wants to see you. That's what I think

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<v Speaker 1>you brought that up as like an idea. I think

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<v Speaker 1>it was one of my friends or somebody was going

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<v Speaker 1>on a date and they didn't have and we were

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<v Speaker 1>talking about how expensive child care is, and you had said,

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<v Speaker 1>if a guy and I love where your head's at,

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<v Speaker 1>just like if someone's willing to fly you out and

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<v Speaker 1>put you up in a hotel room, get you your

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<v Speaker 1>own room. That's supposed to be like a sweet thing.

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<v Speaker 1>But because of my trauma, I immediately go, you want

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<v Speaker 1>power over me. You're not paying for my stuff? Do

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<v Speaker 1>you get what I mean? Yeah?

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<v Speaker 2>And by the way, so I've had experience in both

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<v Speaker 2>ponds where someone was like, here's like, I would love

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<v Speaker 2>to take you out on a date, and I would

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<v Speaker 2>also love to pay for your childcare for the you know,

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<v Speaker 2>the two hours three hours that we go out.

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<v Speaker 1>Someone's offered that, Yeah, wow, that's really nice. And then

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<v Speaker 1>I have.

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<v Speaker 2>People that have not you know, it's not even in

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<v Speaker 2>the conversation. I have never taken money, but the idea,

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<v Speaker 2>I just like the idea of them offering because it

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<v Speaker 2>tells me more about their character and they're being thoughtful of, Like, Okay,

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<v Speaker 2>she's a single mom. You know. It's the going rate

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<v Speaker 2>in Los Angeles is thirty a minimum of thirty dollars

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<v Speaker 2>an hour or thirty five dollars an hour, like most

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<v Speaker 2>nannies or babysitters wants they want a minimum of four

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<v Speaker 2>hours or three hours whatever it is.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, Like, so it's it.

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<v Speaker 2>Eventually, you know, it adds up, and so especially when

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<v Speaker 2>you're going on a first date with someone like at night, right,

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<v Speaker 2>if you could do it during the day when the

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<v Speaker 2>kids are in activities orre like, hey, I can grab

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<v Speaker 2>a lunch with you or something like that, we can

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<v Speaker 2>go for a hike, that's you know. Then it's like

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<v Speaker 2>I don't it's fine. But I think for some women

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<v Speaker 2>who really just can't because financially they are so strapped

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<v Speaker 2>that total every frickin' dollar. So I think it says

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<v Speaker 2>a lot about a guy when they can they could

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<v Speaker 2>just offer it, you know, and I would never accept it.

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<v Speaker 2>But I think again it's the idea of like they're

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<v Speaker 2>being mindful and it feels good to be taken care

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<v Speaker 2>of sometimes it really does.

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<v Speaker 1>So that's where I mean that our relationship with money

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<v Speaker 1>differs because I equate money to someone having control and

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<v Speaker 1>power over me if they pay, whereas you are not

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<v Speaker 1>as traumatized, I guess as me in that area where

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<v Speaker 1>you can say, wow, that's thoughtful, that's sweep, and I

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<v Speaker 1>immediately go, this is a red flag. Why would you

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<v Speaker 1>want to pay for my stuff?

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<v Speaker 2>Let me tell you something. I was extremely traumatized after

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<v Speaker 2>I got divorced, extremely hush. I don't even know why.

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<v Speaker 2>It's making me emotional. I think this is a bigger

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<v Speaker 2>moment for me right now because it's just a reflection

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<v Speaker 2>of the work that I've done. And I want that

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<v Speaker 2>freedom for you so badly because it's just taking your

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<v Speaker 2>power back. Someone could think that they have power over

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<v Speaker 2>you because of money, right, but really they don't. It's

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<v Speaker 2>up to you to say, like, no, you should be

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<v Speaker 2>doing that out of the kindness of your heart. It

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<v Speaker 2>doesn't mean that I owe you anything. There's never there.

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<v Speaker 2>This is not like an exchange, right unless there's an

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<v Speaker 2>agreement beforehand. But I had to do a lot of

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<v Speaker 2>work around my relationship with money because I gave up

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<v Speaker 2>a lot of my twenties fighting for a career because

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<v Speaker 2>I was conflicted, right, Like, I had a husband that

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<v Speaker 2>was making movies all around the world at that time,

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<v Speaker 2>and I was like, God, I want to be a

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<v Speaker 2>woman who has, you know, following my pa as an actor.

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<v Speaker 2>But I also have these two little kids that I

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<v Speaker 2>didn't want to leave at home by themselves with a nanny,

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<v Speaker 2>and it was really really hard, and so like, I

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<v Speaker 2>think I would be in a very different financial position

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<v Speaker 2>had I said, you know what, I'm going to go

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<v Speaker 2>out and I'm going to go do what I want

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<v Speaker 2>and I'm going to be selfish. And some women are

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<v Speaker 2>career women and that's the choice that they make. I

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<v Speaker 2>just couldn't do it because that's not the like you said,

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<v Speaker 2>that's not the life that I came from. I watched

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<v Speaker 2>my mom and dad build a business out of our

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<v Speaker 2>three car garage that they converted to a two car

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<v Speaker 2>garage as a construction company, and my mom was doing

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<v Speaker 2>it all. Like my mom had no help. She was

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<v Speaker 2>juggling taking three kids to basketball, golf like when we

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<v Speaker 2>were in youth group like you name it, and then

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<v Speaker 2>helping my dad run his business, and then on top

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<v Speaker 2>of that, taking care of the like the house right,

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<v Speaker 2>the cooking, the cleaning, the you know, the whatever. We

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<v Speaker 2>had a horse, we had a goat at some at

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<v Speaker 2>one point. It's really hard as a woman, and I

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<v Speaker 2>still struggle with this, like big time. It's a it's

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<v Speaker 2>a big thing, and I think a lot of women feel,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, conflicted because at the same time, a lot

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<v Speaker 2>of households needs they need two incomes. Life is just

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<v Speaker 2>expensive now, so people don't have a choice.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah I did. I'm I feel badly the way that

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<v Speaker 1>I said that to you, because I do know how

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<v Speaker 1>hard your divorce was and how much you gave up.

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<v Speaker 1>So when I when I said we have a different relationship,

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<v Speaker 1>I meant in the present moment, because I do know

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<v Speaker 1>how much you gave up, and I do know what

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<v Speaker 1>that looked like when you guys parted ways, and how

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<v Speaker 1>dirty you were done. Yeah, so I feel like I

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<v Speaker 1>had to take this moment to tell you that I

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<v Speaker 1>was not trying to diminish the work that you've done

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<v Speaker 1>or what you went through and how difficult the relationship

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<v Speaker 1>you've had with money and how it's evolved during the years.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm really sorry. I didn't mean to do that.

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<v Speaker 2>No, I no, no, no, I don't apologize. I please

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<v Speaker 2>don't apologize, because it wasn't that. The moment that I'm

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<v Speaker 2>having now is like it's it's hard work. And when

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<v Speaker 2>you say that you don't have that yet, I get

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<v Speaker 2>emotional because I knew you were. I was in that

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<v Speaker 2>position that you were, and I want that for you.

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<v Speaker 2>You deserve to be taken care of and go out

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<v Speaker 2>and have a bad ass career right and make your

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<v Speaker 2>own money like you deserve that you It's not one

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<v Speaker 2>or the other. In my opinion. It doesn't have to

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<v Speaker 2>be with the right person. It doesn't have to be.

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<v Speaker 2>So I want that. And yeah I was. I was

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<v Speaker 2>done real fucking dirty in my divorce and I wanted

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<v Speaker 2>my family and I wasn't smart, and you know, I

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<v Speaker 2>signed a prenup when I when I was in the marriage,

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<v Speaker 2>and it was it was bad, it was really bad.

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<v Speaker 2>But I wanted so badly for my at the moment

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<v Speaker 2>meant right, because I was still so sick. I wanted

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<v Speaker 2>my family together so badly that I was willing to

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<v Speaker 2>go to any length and if that meant I got nothing,

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<v Speaker 2>in my mind, that meant I got nothing. I got

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<v Speaker 2>the one thing that I got nothing, But I got

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<v Speaker 2>everything At the same time, I got the one thing

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<v Speaker 2>that I always wanted was my family. In the end,

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<v Speaker 2>I made a lot of really dumb mistakes and maybe

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<v Speaker 2>one day I'll write a book about what not to do.

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<v Speaker 2>But would I sign a prenup again? If if I

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<v Speaker 2>meet the right person and they ask, yes, I would,

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<v Speaker 2>But I would be very it would be it would

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<v Speaker 2>be different, right. I have a different relationship with money

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<v Speaker 2>and what a prenup represents because mine was done while

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<v Speaker 2>we were married, right after there was a lot of infidelity,

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<v Speaker 2>so it was not done on the basis of if

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<v Speaker 2>this marriage falls apart. The marriage was already falling apart.

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<v Speaker 2>And then it was like shoving papers down my face,

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<v Speaker 2>you have to sign this. Yeah, you were in your

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<v Speaker 2>and he was already out of the house, and he

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<v Speaker 2>already out of the house.

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<v Speaker 1>And you were in your most vulnerable state going through

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<v Speaker 1>a morning process. And can I tell you I almost

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<v Speaker 1>gave up vander Pump rules for him.

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<v Speaker 2>Wow.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, he had asked me to do that. And I

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<v Speaker 1>remember being in a parking garage being like, Okay, I

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<v Speaker 1>I think I'm going to do that. This is this

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<v Speaker 1>is worth giving that up for. And my mom was like,

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<v Speaker 1>what the fuck are you talking about? Absolutely not. Thank

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<v Speaker 1>god I did it.

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<v Speaker 2>Thank God we have women in our life, Like I know,

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<v Speaker 2>if you were to come to me, or my mom

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<v Speaker 2>were to come to me, or any other woman that

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<v Speaker 2>I really trust in my life and say Amber, what

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<v Speaker 2>the fuck? I would now I would now listen Because

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<v Speaker 2>I had people telling me that I had attorneys saying

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<v Speaker 2>do not sign this document, and I was like, I

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<v Speaker 2>am signing it my family. I want my kids. I

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<v Speaker 2>didn't want my kids to come from a broken home.

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<v Speaker 2>So that prenup slash post up, whatever the you want

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<v Speaker 2>to call it, because I remember I never knew what

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<v Speaker 2>to call it. It represented so much for me. But

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<v Speaker 2>now guess what, Like I'm sober, I'm wise, I'm like

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<v Speaker 2>I'm stepping into a relationship with different intentions. If I

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<v Speaker 2>choose to get married, it's like you just get to rewrite,

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<v Speaker 2>rewrite what has been done. I don't know, That's what

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<v Speaker 2>I feel.

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<v Speaker 1>Can you still do this may sound so dumb? Can

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<v Speaker 1>you still do some sort of documentation? Like if you

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<v Speaker 1>choose not to get married, does can you still have

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<v Speaker 1>like a prenup? Because let's say you're in a partnership,

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<v Speaker 1>a committed relationship with someone for twenty seven years. Okay,

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<v Speaker 1>it's a long time. Some vitual marriages signed licenses don't

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<v Speaker 1>even last twenty seven years. So in that timeframe, you

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<v Speaker 1>guys break up. I guess it would depend on what

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<v Speaker 1>state you live in because of common law marriage. But

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<v Speaker 1>I'm wondering because, as you know, I don't want to

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<v Speaker 1>get married, but I feel like there needs to be

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<v Speaker 1>some sort of documentation, whether you would still call that

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<v Speaker 1>a prenup or not. I don't know where it's like,

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<v Speaker 1>even if we have like a long life together and

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<v Speaker 1>we build a lot, whatever is yours is yours, whatever

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<v Speaker 1>is mine is mine, and we just get to part

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<v Speaker 1>ways and call it a day, Like, I still feel

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<v Speaker 1>like you have to have some sort of agreement.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I don't. I know that the laws have definitely changed.

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<v Speaker 2>Whereas like if you were married for ten years you

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<v Speaker 2>would get alimony for life. That is not the case anymore,

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<v Speaker 2>I believe, not corn I think that that's actually changed,

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<v Speaker 2>like or you could at least argue that you could

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<v Speaker 2>have whatever document in your marriage. There's this guy, There's

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<v Speaker 2>an attorney in New York that I follow. He's a

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<v Speaker 2>very Instagram social media famous, and he talks about some

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<v Speaker 2>of the weird things that people put in their pre nups,

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<v Speaker 2>like weird like if you gain more than fifteen pounds,

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<v Speaker 2>like fucked up stuff like not normal, unhealthy.

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<v Speaker 1>Can I tell you, though, I don't know that that

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<v Speaker 1>would actually hold up in court, because I remember during

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<v Speaker 1>my prenup process I said, I want a clause in

0:14:30.640 --> 0:14:36.000
<v Speaker 1>there that says, if you cheat, I get X. I

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<v Speaker 1>remember my attorney being like, we can absolutely put that

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<v Speaker 1>in there, but just know what we want. If it

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<v Speaker 1>makes it into like litigation where you guys are at

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<v Speaker 1>each other's throats because this doesn't work out, it's gonna

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<v Speaker 1>get thrown out. That's not it's kind of It reminds

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<v Speaker 1>me of when couples put in their agreement you can't

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<v Speaker 1>introduce somebody, like during a custody case, you can't introduce

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<v Speaker 1>the child to a partner unless you've been dating that

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<v Speaker 1>person for at least a year. And it's like, Okay,

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<v Speaker 1>that sounds really beautiful. I'm glad you guys could agree

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<v Speaker 1>on that and you both signed off baptida. Let's just

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<v Speaker 1>say one person breaks that rule and you're furious and

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<v Speaker 1>you're like, I'm going in to see a judge. The

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<v Speaker 1>judge would be like, I'm taking this out because you

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<v Speaker 1>can introduce whoever the fuck you want to this child.

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<v Speaker 1>There's just certain things that you may sign off on,

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<v Speaker 1>but once it hits a judge, the judge can say,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm vetoing this. It's stupid.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, But I think when you're in high net worth

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<v Speaker 2>divorce cases, it goes more probably into mediation and then

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<v Speaker 2>and sometimes you have to mediate and you can't go

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<v Speaker 2>to trial, like you have to do mediation first, right, right, And.

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<v Speaker 1>It also depends on where you are. I think there's

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<v Speaker 1>some states that would be like, yes, we take infidelity

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<v Speaker 1>very seriously. You have to pay for that. California. I

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<v Speaker 1>remember we were talking about infidelity and they were like,

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<v Speaker 1>you want to know what they said to me, Welcome

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<v Speaker 1>to Hollywood, La La. I go, that doesn't fucking work

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<v Speaker 1>for me. Sorry, doesn't work for me.

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<v Speaker 2>Wait, I have a question. Did you guys have a

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<v Speaker 2>prenup done before you guys we're gonna get married.

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<v Speaker 1>We were in the process. I don't know if I've

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<v Speaker 1>ever asked you this. We were in the process of

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<v Speaker 1>doing the prenup and the next phone call to my

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<v Speaker 1>lawyer was I'm leaving him, and I need a case

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<v Speaker 1>number so that I can leave this fucking house with

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<v Speaker 1>my child in tow and have him not call the

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<v Speaker 1>police on me. So he goes, oh, that was this

0:16:41.240 --> 0:16:45.120
<v Speaker 1>that changed very quick Amber. I wish that I could.

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<v Speaker 1>The day those photos came out October fifteenth, I remember

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<v Speaker 1>it like it was yesterday. I was blowing Daryl up.

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<v Speaker 1>I said, Daryl, I need a fucking family attorney immediately.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm leaving this person and I need to be teed

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<v Speaker 1>up with my daughter now. Today it was like nine

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<v Speaker 1>pm and I got a phone call from the family lawyer.

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<v Speaker 1>That was like things changed quickly. I was just looking

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<v Speaker 1>over your prenup. I thought that's why you called. I

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<v Speaker 1>was like, no, oh mm hmm.

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<v Speaker 2>You can't fucking write this.

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<v Speaker 1>I know. And I remember the girl who was assigned

0:17:23.280 --> 0:17:25.960
<v Speaker 1>in my case. She was like, la, la, just because

0:17:25.960 --> 0:17:28.119
<v Speaker 1>I would call every day, where's my case number? Where's

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<v Speaker 1>my case number? I can't leave without my kid. I

0:17:30.640 --> 0:17:32.600
<v Speaker 1>he will call the police on me, He's told me.

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<v Speaker 1>She was like, you just got a hang tight, I promise,

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<v Speaker 1>see what's going to happen. And it was on The

0:17:39.960 --> 0:17:43.600
<v Speaker 1>pictures came out October fifteenth, and it was October twenty

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<v Speaker 1>seventh that I knew what I had to do make

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<v Speaker 1>him feel comfortable enough to get the fuck out of town,

0:17:50.600 --> 0:17:53.200
<v Speaker 1>and so I did. I remember walking down the stairs

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<v Speaker 1>and I called him, babe, and I felt like I

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<v Speaker 1>was gonna throw up, and I told him, I think

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<v Speaker 1>I'm almost ready to let you back in the bedroom.

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<v Speaker 1>We're gonna work through this, and then he was he

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<v Speaker 1>had to get to Florida next day. He leaves. He's

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<v Speaker 1>so sad, he doesn't want to go. Amber he just

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<v Speaker 1>doesn't want to go. And I said, I'm gonna be

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<v Speaker 1>here when you get back. It's fine. Do what you

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<v Speaker 1>need to do. As he left, I hit him with

0:18:27.520 --> 0:18:30.760
<v Speaker 1>the phone call and said, you know, we don't need

0:18:30.760 --> 0:18:32.880
<v Speaker 1>the nanny to come in or the housekeeper or anybody

0:18:32.880 --> 0:18:34.320
<v Speaker 1>today because we're going to be out of the house

0:18:34.359 --> 0:18:35.919
<v Speaker 1>and I'm going to take the kids because it's going

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<v Speaker 1>to be my mom's last day. And he goes, your

0:18:37.920 --> 0:18:40.080
<v Speaker 1>mom's going to go home. I was like, yeah, she's

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<v Speaker 1>gonna leave tomorrow. She's flying out. His assistant calls me,

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<v Speaker 1>Now he really thinks we're all good, Right, Lisa, the

0:18:47.400 --> 0:18:50.399
<v Speaker 1>mediator is going back home Waters are calm. Assistant hits me,

0:18:50.800 --> 0:18:53.159
<v Speaker 1>he's on the plane. I call my gaze. I was like,

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<v Speaker 1>roll up the fucking minivans. They fucking roll up the

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<v Speaker 1>mini vans. Jessica's covering every single camera with paper or

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<v Speaker 1>so it looks like maybe we just had a package

0:19:02.440 --> 0:19:04.560
<v Speaker 1>and they covered the camera outside.

0:19:04.680 --> 0:19:11.360
<v Speaker 2>FedEx put the stamp, missed package, miss signature package.

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<v Speaker 1>Packed whatever. I coult into those cars and was out

0:19:14.480 --> 0:19:16.800
<v Speaker 1>that bitch amazing.

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<v Speaker 2>Wow.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, wow, long winded story about a prenup. So, in

0:19:21.840 --> 0:19:23.840
<v Speaker 1>other words, yes, it was done, but it quickly turned

0:19:23.880 --> 0:19:37.439
<v Speaker 1>into a custody custody paperwork instead. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>I wish I had a different experience, but you know.

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<v Speaker 1>What, Amer you were about twelve. I don't exactly I

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<v Speaker 1>it would have gone very very differently had I been

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<v Speaker 1>younger and not sober, So give yourself some grace.

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<v Speaker 2>Out of the entire prenup, the only thing, well not

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<v Speaker 2>the only thing, but one of the biggest things, the biggest,

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<v Speaker 2>like ninety percent of my ah, Man, I really fucked

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<v Speaker 2>up was I left the house. I should have asked

0:20:15.440 --> 0:20:22.040
<v Speaker 2>for a house because let me tell you why. I

0:20:22.160 --> 0:20:26.000
<v Speaker 2>begged him to buy a house, and we almost came

0:20:26.040 --> 0:20:30.960
<v Speaker 2>close to buying many houses several times to have that

0:20:31.119 --> 0:20:34.840
<v Speaker 2>like foundation to raise our children. Right, it was about

0:20:35.200 --> 0:20:41.080
<v Speaker 2>like putting down roots somewhere, and he would never do it.

0:20:41.720 --> 0:20:44.800
<v Speaker 2>He never We went from renting a house.

0:20:44.640 --> 0:20:45.159
<v Speaker 1>We moved.

0:20:45.200 --> 0:20:47.560
<v Speaker 2>I moved in my marriage. So I was married almost

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<v Speaker 2>eight years. We moved seven times in eight years, every year,

0:20:52.440 --> 0:20:55.840
<v Speaker 2>almost every year except for one house we stayed eighteen months.

0:20:55.960 --> 0:20:58.959
<v Speaker 2>I was packing my entire family up and moving, and

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<v Speaker 2>of course he was quote working when we were in

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<v Speaker 2>the moving process. And that's the biggest regret is that

0:21:06.720 --> 0:21:09.280
<v Speaker 2>I should have said, no, you want to go out

0:21:09.280 --> 0:21:12.440
<v Speaker 2>and you you want to be with Laala, you want

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<v Speaker 2>to go fuck other women, whatever you want to do,

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<v Speaker 2>but you need to give me a house so I

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<v Speaker 2>can continue to raise our children. Let me tell you something,

0:21:20.880 --> 0:21:24.120
<v Speaker 2>I'm as much as I it really hurts me. Right,

0:21:25.040 --> 0:21:26.760
<v Speaker 2>I don't think I would be where I am today.

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<v Speaker 1>You wouldn't be right.

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<v Speaker 2>I wouldn't have the drive, I wouldn't have the the like.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm going to show my girls that, like, you can

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<v Speaker 2>stand on your own two feet if you have the

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<v Speaker 2>willingness to do uncomfortable things.

0:21:41.480 --> 0:21:43.960
<v Speaker 1>And you've done a lot of uncomfortable things. Zamber and

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<v Speaker 1>what you you know, I know that there's a lot

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<v Speaker 1>that you gave up when you decided to, like, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>really hone in on your family. I think it was

0:21:54.800 --> 0:21:59.040
<v Speaker 1>Lily what is her name, She's the British singer Lily Allen,

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<v Speaker 1>And she said, you cannot have it all. You cannot

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<v Speaker 1>have a thriving career, be a present mother, be the

0:22:08.640 --> 0:22:12.080
<v Speaker 1>wife that is a housewife. You can't be all of

0:22:12.119 --> 0:22:15.879
<v Speaker 1>those things. And I think, yes, if you look back,

0:22:16.240 --> 0:22:19.159
<v Speaker 1>you could say I picked this, that and the other,

0:22:19.200 --> 0:22:20.520
<v Speaker 1>and I should have been smart and I should have

0:22:20.520 --> 0:22:22.960
<v Speaker 1>done that. But the way and I know that your

0:22:23.000 --> 0:22:25.640
<v Speaker 1>kids are at a difficult age right now. What age

0:22:25.640 --> 0:22:27.679
<v Speaker 1>isn't difficult. I'm like, have a two year old, it's

0:22:27.720 --> 0:22:31.160
<v Speaker 1>a really difficult age. But you can just tell how

0:22:32.000 --> 0:22:37.600
<v Speaker 1>safe they feel. You're their rock. There's there's a bond

0:22:37.720 --> 0:22:40.960
<v Speaker 1>there that I don't think you can always feel because

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<v Speaker 1>you're in the thick of it. But as an outsider,

0:22:43.640 --> 0:22:46.440
<v Speaker 1>you know, you're like Riley's at a stage where she's

0:22:46.440 --> 0:22:47.760
<v Speaker 1>not nice to me, and I'm like, well, she calls

0:22:47.760 --> 0:22:50.199
<v Speaker 1>you about four hundred times a day, so there's gotta

0:22:50.200 --> 0:22:50.720
<v Speaker 1>be something.

0:22:50.760 --> 0:22:53.680
<v Speaker 2>If they're punching bag. I am their punching bag.

0:22:53.480 --> 0:22:56.600
<v Speaker 1>That is. But they know that there's unconditional love there.

0:22:56.680 --> 0:22:59.920
<v Speaker 1>You are going nowhere, You're always going to show up,

0:23:00.280 --> 0:23:04.680
<v Speaker 1>You're always going to pick them. They have watched you

0:23:04.760 --> 0:23:08.719
<v Speaker 1>pick up your life and make really hard decisions, leaving

0:23:08.720 --> 0:23:12.719
<v Speaker 1>when it doesn't suit you anymore, forgiving when you feel

0:23:12.880 --> 0:23:16.120
<v Speaker 1>like something becomes a cancer and you need to let

0:23:16.160 --> 0:23:19.639
<v Speaker 1>it go. You have really done an amazing job. And

0:23:19.680 --> 0:23:21.520
<v Speaker 1>I think you need to give yourself credit. And I

0:23:21.560 --> 0:23:25.320
<v Speaker 1>think at this stage of your life is now when

0:23:25.359 --> 0:23:30.600
<v Speaker 1>you're going to reap the benefits of the financial aspect

0:23:30.640 --> 0:23:35.159
<v Speaker 1>of things. Now is your time that thank you.

0:23:35.200 --> 0:23:36.359
<v Speaker 2>That felt like a little like.

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<v Speaker 1>Psychic it did it? Did it?

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<v Speaker 3>Did?

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<v Speaker 1>I felt like you were reading me.

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<v Speaker 2>I was like, wait, tell me more.

0:23:42.520 --> 0:23:46.080
<v Speaker 1>I just feel that way. You know, I think you did.

0:23:46.480 --> 0:23:49.720
<v Speaker 1>I believe you did it the right way. And the

0:23:49.800 --> 0:23:54.080
<v Speaker 1>road was really, really tough. But look at the bright

0:23:54.119 --> 0:23:58.120
<v Speaker 1>side of having kids so young. You're thirty seven, You're

0:23:58.200 --> 0:24:01.200
<v Speaker 1>fucking hot. Your life is far from over. Most people

0:24:01.560 --> 0:24:04.480
<v Speaker 1>have kids much later, and by the time they're raised

0:24:04.480 --> 0:24:07.359
<v Speaker 1>in on their own it's like, oh my god, now

0:24:07.480 --> 0:24:09.679
<v Speaker 1>is when I start. It's a pretty intense feeling.

0:24:10.080 --> 0:24:13.040
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, the problem now, I'm just just I'm tired, like

0:24:13.960 --> 0:24:15.480
<v Speaker 2>you know, because I've been doing it since I was

0:24:15.680 --> 0:24:18.159
<v Speaker 2>you know, my mom started when she was sixteen, and

0:24:18.200 --> 0:24:20.160
<v Speaker 2>I think about her and I'm thinking, like, why does

0:24:20.440 --> 0:24:23.840
<v Speaker 2>like my mom was so young, And now I get

0:24:23.840 --> 0:24:29.680
<v Speaker 2>why she's tired because she's been You know, even when

0:24:29.680 --> 0:24:32.280
<v Speaker 2>you're sleeping, you're still thinking about your kids. Subconsciously, You're

0:24:32.280 --> 0:24:34.240
<v Speaker 2>still worried about your kids, you know what I mean. So,

0:24:35.560 --> 0:24:39.240
<v Speaker 2>but no, I'm really I'm I will I'll say this.

0:24:39.920 --> 0:24:43.199
<v Speaker 2>I'm more driven than I've ever been. I have a

0:24:43.400 --> 0:24:47.199
<v Speaker 2>clear idea of what I want. I have goals that

0:24:47.280 --> 0:24:50.680
<v Speaker 2>I want and I've said this to you privately off

0:24:50.720 --> 0:24:57.880
<v Speaker 2>of the podcast. I have this internal knowing that everything

0:24:57.960 --> 0:25:02.359
<v Speaker 2>is going to work out, and it's I don't even

0:25:02.400 --> 0:25:05.439
<v Speaker 2>know what it is. It's just like I feel like

0:25:05.600 --> 0:25:09.560
<v Speaker 2>I trust myself for the first time, whereas I could

0:25:09.640 --> 0:25:13.320
<v Speaker 2>never be in control of my life, my finances, trust

0:25:13.320 --> 0:25:18.680
<v Speaker 2>myself in a relationship because I didn't one, I didn't

0:25:18.720 --> 0:25:25.000
<v Speaker 2>grieve my marriage that happened. I got really honest with myself,

0:25:25.560 --> 0:25:30.760
<v Speaker 2>became sober, have a genuine, honest, loving, healthy relationship with

0:25:30.800 --> 0:25:34.680
<v Speaker 2>you I'm honest with my kids, and I always tell

0:25:34.680 --> 0:25:37.760
<v Speaker 2>my kids the truth. And I'm like, oh, okay, this

0:25:37.800 --> 0:25:39.880
<v Speaker 2>is when life can get really big and good if

0:25:39.880 --> 0:25:44.280
<v Speaker 2>I just keep showing up and not trying to control

0:25:44.320 --> 0:25:49.000
<v Speaker 2>everything and just surrender, like surrender what they teach us

0:25:49.000 --> 0:25:54.159
<v Speaker 2>in the program. It's a program of action, and you

0:25:54.400 --> 0:25:56.719
<v Speaker 2>just have have to have faith and not the kind

0:25:56.760 --> 0:25:59.000
<v Speaker 2>of faith that I grew up in the Mormon Church

0:25:59.240 --> 0:26:02.399
<v Speaker 2>that to me was like a faith that was not

0:26:03.400 --> 0:26:06.600
<v Speaker 2>I couldn't relate to it right, that was like textbook faith.

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<v Speaker 2>Now it's like i sit outside with my cup of

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<v Speaker 2>coffee and I'm meditating and I'm listening to my Alan

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<v Speaker 2>Watts and I'm listening you know, reading you know AA

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<v Speaker 2>material and I'm praying and I'm thinking, okay, God, I'm

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<v Speaker 2>connecting to you now, like I really get connected. And

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<v Speaker 2>it's like, okay, I'm gonna be Okay, it's good, it's

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<v Speaker 2>fucking good. Let's go, let's go.

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<v Speaker 1>I always think of Danny from the Valley when someone

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<v Speaker 1>says let's go. No, don't worry about it now, I'm

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<v Speaker 1>only going to think of you. I will say this

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<v Speaker 1>because this is going to be and I believe I've

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<v Speaker 1>talked about this before, but I want to tell you

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<v Speaker 1>I don't knock anybody's hustle. Right, if you are a

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<v Speaker 1>quote unquote sugar baby and you've got a guy who's

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<v Speaker 1>paying your rent, or for your car, or buying you

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<v Speaker 1>bags and shoes and all the things, I would demand.

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<v Speaker 1>Whatever my rent is, I need the same amount in cash.

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<v Speaker 1>Whatever that bag costs, I'm gonna need the same amount

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<v Speaker 1>in cash. You don't want to do that, then I

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<v Speaker 1>don't want the bag, and I want the fucking cash.

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<v Speaker 1>You have to fucking be smart. You can't do anything

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<v Speaker 1>with paid rent. You can't do anything with a paid car,

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<v Speaker 1>you can't do anything with a fucking Louis bag. It

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<v Speaker 1>all looks very cute, but when when you tap out

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<v Speaker 1>and you enter thirty and he goes and finds his

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<v Speaker 1>twenty something year old and you're no longer the sugar

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<v Speaker 1>baby because you're too fucking old. You're like, well, daddy

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<v Speaker 1>stacked me up, so I really don't give a fuck.

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<v Speaker 1>I've got enough money now to go buy my own house. Well,

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<v Speaker 1>that's a business.

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<v Speaker 2>When you're in that kind of relationship, it's like a yes,

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<v Speaker 2>it's a different type of business.

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<v Speaker 1>So it is a business. It's just it's George J

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<v Speaker 1>me because I'm young and hot and will fuck you

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<v Speaker 1>like a stripper. And I'm dating you because you have money.

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<v Speaker 1>So now it's time to show me how much you

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<v Speaker 1>really got, Like, are you actually a brokester? Because I'm

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<v Speaker 1>gonna need I'm going to need both. That would be

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<v Speaker 1>my that would be my advice to anybody who's sugar babying.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, by the way, cash is everything, And I would

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<v Speaker 2>take and I'd put it a little bit in the

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<v Speaker 2>stock market because it's me. I love a good stock market,

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<v Speaker 2>love a good stock market, baby, I love a good

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<v Speaker 2>by the way like account. Right before this, I went

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<v Speaker 2>on my my my app that I use, and I

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<v Speaker 2>was like, all right, we've really got to turn things around,

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<v Speaker 2>Like we've got to do some deep diving because the

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<v Speaker 2>market's not doing that great right now as of today.

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<v Speaker 2>But no, you have to be smart with your money.

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<v Speaker 2>And that's the thing.

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<v Speaker 1>And if he takes you to Vegas and gives you chips,

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<v Speaker 1>don't gamble, just go cash them in.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, and go buy yourself a coffee and people watch. Oh,

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<v Speaker 2>there was a lot of that.

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<v Speaker 1>Yep, move smart, move smart Ladies, get the prenup, get

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<v Speaker 1>the cash and the chanel. That's what I say. I've

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<v Speaker 1>learned a lot in my whole days. And never quit

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<v Speaker 1>your job for a man.

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<v Speaker 2>Never never sorry.

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<v Speaker 3>That was really preach, bitch, Never prayant, never quit your

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<v Speaker 3>job ever, because remember, your career will never wake up

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<v Speaker 3>in the middle of the night and tell you it

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<v Speaker 3>doesn't love you anymore.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm gonna leave you with that, Lady Gaga, You're welcome.

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<v Speaker 2>That was your That was an epic sign off. Thank

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<v Speaker 2>you everybody for another great episode of an unlikely affair. Amen,

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<v Speaker 2>I love you, Amber, love you too, baby girl. We'll

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<v Speaker 2>catch you next week.

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<v Speaker 1>Bye.